Heatley, Hossa not likely to return

Just finished an interview with Don Waddell about what’s next for the Thrashers now that the draft is over and free agency begins tomorrow. I will be writing a story for Thursday’s paper. It will be online tomorrow.

He’s obviously not going to tip his hand about what’s in the works, but something could get done with Toronto. They are still in talks.

So, I asked him what are the chances that Dany Heatley, who wants to be traded, and Marian Hossa, who becomes a free agent tomorrow, could return to the Thrashers.

After reminding me he could not speak specifically about each player because they are under contract with another team, Waddell did add: “That probably doesn’t make a lot of sense for us.”

There you have it. Stay tuned because I really think there will be movement if not this week, then next week.

106 comments Add your comment

Sara

June 30th, 2009
7:59 pm

LAC the official Thrashers website has interviews with both Morin and Klingberg, Pasquale and Sol I think too. But Klingberg’s interview is hilarious. He’s going to be fun to have around.

Tom

June 30th, 2009
8:10 pm

It is interesting how Hossa and Heatley’s careers are running together. Heatley, the petulant spoiled brat, running from adversity. Hossa, the soft Euro who seems to always be close to fulfilling his dreams but coming up short. Hossa signed a long term deal with a powerhouse team in Ottawa only to be quickly traded. Left the Penguins without the Cup for the Wings, and still does not have a Cup. And now has diminished his value that it will be hard to sign with a contender again.

My heart goes out to Hossa, he may be lacking that extra something but he is committed.

Heatley is just a primadonna.

Ice Meister

June 30th, 2009
8:17 pm

Former tennis phenom Anna Kournikova got into a fracas with another woman at a Las Vegas club on Saturday-A RUSSIAN THAT FIGHTS!

World Be Free

June 30th, 2009
8:20 pm

Sounds like Don is getting a vote of confidence for this year’s draft.

I think the club did their homework this year and got a little lucky with Morin and Carl falling into the 2nd round. The pick for Schneider came in handy.

I Antropov in our future. There are other UFAs but I don’t see them coming our way.

gcs

June 30th, 2009
8:30 pm

Time for the Thrashers to STEP UP!

ranallo10 (in AT)

June 30th, 2009
8:50 pm

Bouwmeester signed with Calgary for 5 years at $6.6M per.

kracker

June 30th, 2009
9:32 pm

What was Campbell? $7.2/yr?

Evander Hossafield

June 30th, 2009
9:42 pm

Everyone say it with me: SLOW NEWS DAY!!!

Midfield

June 30th, 2009
10:20 pm

Tom, how is Hossa committed? He was “mailing it in” in every team that he thought would not deliver the Cup to him. He thought that Pittsburgh and Detroit would. But apparently he does not understand that it is HIM who is supposed to deliver the Cup to the team – along with his teammates. And don’t insult European players by this cliche. Some how, nobody calls anyone a Canuck or a Yankee Softie, although I can call out quite a list of softies from North America.

ChippersLoveChild

June 30th, 2009
10:41 pm

Might have been obvious news, but I am thankful for the updates either way… it beats years in the past when we would go weeks without an update on the Thrashers page! Keep up the good work Chris.

R. Stroz

June 30th, 2009
10:57 pm

Looks like Heatley is going to Edmonton.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283356

atl in cayman

June 30th, 2009
11:44 pm

Note: In other news Hossa is set to become an UFA as he has apparently turned down a 10 year offer from the Wings.

Does this guy have a brain? Hasn’t Detroit won like 3 Stanley Cups in 12 years? I think that percentage is pretty good.
I’m glad he’s gone!
I think it was Hossa who said, “There is no I in TEAM, but there is a ME.”

Sharon

July 1st, 2009
2:17 am

The Heatley drama continues… what a joke.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283382

Sadtoseeitthisway

July 1st, 2009
4:28 am

Hey guys, lets get it straight! Concerning Hossa or Heatly, the Atlanta Spirit Group ain’t gonna step up and pay the kind of contract it would take to bring in either of these two. Yes, they both played here. But when they left they were seeking more money and playing in a more traditional market. As for Heatly. HE’S A CHERRY PICKER. After cruising around (loafing) he instantly picks up the pace when he smells a chance to shoot close in. Too many easy points. Lazy or non-existent back checker is a big part of his game. Buyer beware, he’s not worth the big bucks. As for Hossa. He plays great the first two thirds of the season, after that he gets banged up, beat up, and therefore becomes gun shy and timid. After 80 games (playoff time) his tank is nearly on empty. If you are a fan of his you say, Where’s the Hossa we saw two or three months ago? Hey folks, do you really want the Thrash to make a big money, long term commitment to either one of these guys?

LAC

July 1st, 2009
6:03 am

FYI —– ANAHEIM, Calif. – The Anaheim Ducks re-signed centre Erik Christensen to a one-year deal ahead of free agency, the team announced early Wednesday.

The Real Fan

July 1st, 2009
6:40 am

Anyone who believes that Hossa and Heatley can’t make us better is an idiot, Waddell.

Jimbo

July 1st, 2009
7:21 am

I don’t understand all the speculation about UFAs when Donnie Boy has not been able to sign one decent UFA in 10 years. The speculation should be whether or not he can break his streak.

KW - New blogger/Steady Thrash Fan

July 1st, 2009
8:27 am

Guys. . . I believe Tomas Kaberle was traded to Boston around draft day (unless the Leafs have BOTH Kaberle brothers!) for a forward. There’s a link about Heatley nixing a proposed deal to Edmonton – http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=432360 (it was mentioned on the ‘rumor mill’ on another sports site he “wants to live the high life”. Guerin took a pay cut to stay with the Pens, and a few others have re-signed with their respective teams – sounds as if SOME common sense/fears about the economy have taken hold with a few guys!

ranallo10 (in AT)

July 1st, 2009
8:51 am

KW — The Tomas Kaberle (Toronto) trade at draft day was for Phil Kessel (Boston), but did not come to fruition. Kaberle is still under contract with the Maple Leafs at this point in time.

GaVaHokie

July 1st, 2009
8:55 am

Well, get ready for a lot of bitching on here… according to Ben Wright…

Dudley is a master at finding underappreciated players, so don’t be surprised if he has his eye on another Rich Peverley who doesn’t sound like much when he’s acquired but ends up having a major impact.

GaVaHokie

July 1st, 2009
8:56 am

I’d like to see us sign a player that I don’t have to go to TSN or Hockeyfutures to see if it was a good acquisition.

Sage of Bluesland

July 1st, 2009
9:11 am

I absolutely loved Dany Heatley when he was here–and was crushed upon his departure (and mad at bumbling Donny for getting Hossa’d in the deal)…However, karma has turned for Dany in the worst way.

He has a bizarre streak in him, that’s for sure…I guess the Sens aren’t good enough anymore, now that they’re coming down from the mountain?

Makes me appreciate Ilya all that much more. Pride, respect, honor–Dany has little of all….He deserves every “boo” he receives. He’ll be receiving them in Ottawa, as well, soon enough.

GaVaHokie

July 1st, 2009
9:20 am

The latest from Eklund, for what it’s worth… I hope he’s right.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Are-You-Ready–Some-Predictions-for-Today/1/21896

Tom

July 1st, 2009
9:23 am

Midfield

My comment was probably misunderstood, or more likely poorly written. My point was that Hossa took a 1 yr deal to get an audition with the Red Wings and a Stanley Cup.

What the world saw was his fatal flaw, that when things got tough he lost a gear. If he had stepped up to another level he would have the world at his feet, and most likely his name on the Cup. Now Holland is letting him go, a smart move, and odds are Hossa will sign with a midlevel or lower echelon team where he can score his 40 goals a season and never have to get near the Cup again while getting the big paycheck.

Atlanta may be the perfect team for him.

GaVaHokie

July 1st, 2009
9:23 am

Going by Eklund’s rumors… I wouldn’t mind being the “surprising” team that gets Ohlund.

And by solid signings, he means Tier 2 players like Zanon and Sjostrom, I can maybe live with that.

However, those guys hardly require a “doorstep” visit.

Bob

July 1st, 2009
9:48 am

Remember they days when we still had hope that Waddell would be able to sign someone and July 1st came with anticipation? Now I just sit here almost gunshy to look at the wire fearful to see this year’s Ken Klee signing.

ranallo10 (in AT)

July 1st, 2009
10:01 am

“Remember they days when we still had hope that Waddell would be able to sign someone and July 1st came with anticipation?”

Haha, not really…when was the day you were hopeful about Waddell convincing a quality player to sign with Atlanta?

Spud Webb

July 1st, 2009
11:14 am

WOW the Heater has hit a new low. Wants a trade, then nixes it?????????
ahhahahahaha, what a baby. I’m sure Ottowa is soooooooooooooooo happy to have him right now. Maybe to the rangers who just cleared some cash by shipping gomez out? The frogs can’t be happy about getting Gomez, since he’s not french canadian?? lol. Bowmeister taking a discount (well over 5million is a lot of money), good for him, he wanted to be there. Great trade by Calgary.
Not sure who posted it, there were a few, are you kidding me about us not needing D men? Have you seen this franchise for the last 10 years????
WE HAVE NEVER HAD A GOOD DEFENSE. The more the better in my mind. Get Kaberle AND a top 4 forward. Something has to be brewing, HOPING, PRAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frontman

July 1st, 2009
11:49 am

“Dudley is a master at finding underappreciated players”
Translation: “He’s great at finding players on the cheap, which is all ASG is interested in anyway. Oh, that, and what they are going to do with Josh Smith.”

Bob

July 1st, 2009
1:34 pm

“when was the day you were hopeful about Waddell convincing a quality player to sign with Atlanta?”

One year ago today, and the name was Brian Campbell, oh and that Rolston guy too, remember?!?

Jenny

July 1st, 2009
1:38 pm

I don’t think this blog post is a waste of time or an indication of a “slow news day.” It’s short and to the point, and addresses an question that I’ve seen posed elsewhere.

Does Atlanta want Heatly back? No. Does Atlanta want Hossa back? Hell no. But it’s not just about the moeny and their performances. Thier departures were very personal for the team and for the fans.

So, okay. You take away the drama that follows Heatly in Atlanta, and you take away the fact the Hossa left us hanging out to dry 2007-2008, and you treat them like the UFAs that they are. If you objectively look at the situation, you do have to consider whether they’d be a good fit for this team. Obviously they wouldn’t, but come on. It’d be stupid for Chris not to take the 2 seconds to address it. Give the man some slack.

Bob

July 1st, 2009
1:38 pm

“WOW the Heater has hit a new low. Wants a trade, then nixes it?????????”

Yep, is there anyone left that doesn’t finally understand that Heatley just used the wreck to get his way out of here and that yes, he did insult us all the minute he landed in Ottawa with his comments about us (I’m lookin at you, ranallo)?

Jenny

July 1st, 2009
1:40 pm

Wow, I also apologize for all the typos. I swear I proofread it before I posted it!

Thrashfan17

July 1st, 2009
1:57 pm

Couldn’t agree with you more Darkhorse…and another thing we simply cannot do is sign an injury prone guy aka Jason Williams. I would love to get a hold of Brian Gionta, who had a breakout year for the Devils last season. I am holding my breath to see what Wadell is going to do with the Maple Leafs, but something tells me we’re in for another dissapointing deal

Billsen

July 1st, 2009
2:16 pm

Don’t worry about Hossa – he just signed a TWELVE year deal with the Blackhawks.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4300131

Wow.

MFP

July 1st, 2009
2:46 pm

Hossa to the Blackhawks….looks like he’ll watch another eastern conference team skate the cup in front of him next year! ha ha!

MB

July 1st, 2009
2:56 pm

TF17, Gionta actually had a breakout year in ‘05-’06, and seems to have been pretty steady the past few seasons. He had 20 fewer goals and 30 fewer points this season compared to that one. Biggest concern about his, though, is his size. Many here often complain about the Birds having too many smurfs up front, and at 5′7″, 185, Gionta doesn’t do much to help that.

ranallo10 (in AT)

July 1st, 2009
3:03 pm

Haha, good call Bob.

“I was surprised [by his request from Atlanta,] I could understand that one because I probably knew a few things that other people didn’t that go on behind the scenes, and it was difficult for him.”

That’s Dan Snyder’s father, recently, regarding Heatley wanting out of Atlanta. You’re that sure of your opinion that you would contradict the father of the man accidentally killed by Heatley’s accident, and presume to claim he used the accident as a quick out of Atlanta? If so, good for you…I’m not. And no matter how much you think his actions “prove” anything about his time in Atlanta and his personal reasons for leaving…I don’t. I’m pretty sure I’m allowed to have a different opinion than you.

Foster

July 1st, 2009
3:55 pm

Damien Cox of the Toronto Star is reporting that the Thrashers have acquired D Pavel Kubina from the Leafs. Doesn’t say what we give up, but it is a start at improving our defense if this deal does happen.

Link: http://thestar.blogs.com/thespin/

PensFan

July 1st, 2009
5:18 pm

Considering the market and his recent playoff performance, Hossa made out pretty good. Still that is 20M less and 3 more years he is tied up for compared to the 81M over 9 year offer from Edmonton last year. So if we include the Det 1 year deal , it’s like he signed a 13 year 70M contract.

Then again, Chicago is probably a more fun place to live in compared to Edmonton. While this deal is good for Chicago for the next 5 years, the last 3 or 4 years of the deal, a 38-42 year old Hossa will be eating up 5 M per year of cap space. He may still be good at that age(look at Guerin now), but he won’t be worth more than half that cap space at that time.

This is the way I see hossa’s deal. Chicago probably should hope he can be a 7M player for the next 6 years. Then they have to hope he can be a 6M player at the age of 36 for 2 years. The last 4 years, they should hope he is still playing at the level of a 2M a year player.

Or one can say Chicago cursed themselves for 12 more years without the cup!! heh heh.

Thrasher_Ed

July 1st, 2009
5:47 pm

Chris Vivlamore,
Wake up man!! TSN is reporting Exelby to Toronto for Pavel Kubina! Thrashers fans need some updates!!!!!!!

UpperDeck4Life

July 1st, 2009
6:04 pm

Kubina and the rights to a guy named Stapleton for XLB and Colin Stuart.

UpperDeck4Life

July 1st, 2009
6:07 pm

Stapleton played a lot for the Leafs minor league team in the AHL so it looks like he was acquired for the Wolves.

UpperDeck4Life

July 1st, 2009
6:17 pm

Kubina has one year left on his contract at 5 million for the season.

Red Light

July 1st, 2009
6:21 pm

Salary dump for the Leafs and in Kubina you get the next Uwe Krupp. Never a fan of out-of-position Exelby but according to one site, the Thrashers now have approximately $16 million invested in Kubina, Hainsey, Salmela, Enstrom and Bogosian. Add another $16 million for one goalie and seven forwards under contract and they’re still along way from completing a roster and from the floor. Komisarek goes to the Leafs, which can’t be much of a surprise given Burke just got rid of $5 million in salary to Waddell and Co.

Chris Vivlamore

July 1st, 2009
6:32 pm

I’m working on trade rumor folks. Heard the same thing abut Kubina. All I can say for certain right now is it’s possible but that the Thrashers have no announcement to make. I promise to let you know as soon as I know something more.

GSU-Lee

July 1st, 2009
6:32 pm

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283448

Here is the link for the trade…I like Kubina, and we really didn’t give up much for him. But he ain’t cheap, that’s for sure. And he is only signed through next year

GSU-Lee

July 1st, 2009
6:34 pm

What does anyone know about this Stapleton guy? This isn’t eactly the trade I was hoping for…

Red Light

July 1st, 2009
6:41 pm

Hey Lee, since you have been a Thrashers’ fan, just when did you get the trade you were hoping for?

GSU-Lee

July 1st, 2009
6:47 pm

Red Light, excellent question.

By the way, ESPN is now reporting the trade as well. The other guy is Tim Stapleton. He is 27 and listed as a center but has like 3 career NHL games under his belt