Another Thrashers signing

Marty Reasoner has returned.

The Thrashers have re-signed the center, making the announcement on Monday. Terms of the contract were not disclosed.
The 10-year veteran was to become an unrestricted free agent on July 1. He earned $1 million dollars last season after signing a one-year deal with the Thrashers. Reasoner, 32, had 14 goals and 16 assists last season and was given the Thrashers’ Players’ Player Award by teammates. He was seventh on the team in goals and ninth in points.
“This team is starting to build in the right direction,” Reasoner told the Journal-Constitution after last season’s NHL trade deadline. “I can be part of that. We’d like to produce some more wins. That will come. I don’t feel it’s as far away as it seems at times.
“For me to help this team come back and be a contender, be a team that’s feared, that’s a good thing to shoot for. It’s nice to be part of something from the ground up.”
Reasoner has played 544 career games with the Thrashers, Edmonton, Boston and St. Louis with 78 goals and 128 assists. He was a first-round pick by St. Louis (14th overall) in 1996.

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ranallo10 (in AT)

June 8th, 2009
2:29 pm

I think that’s his first multi-year contract in several seasons, I’m sure he’s excited about that. He can now delete U-Haul from his contact list.

GaVaHokie

June 8th, 2009
2:56 pm

Congrats Marty… if you’re in town reading this, it’s great to have you back next year! Enjoy the warm weather with your family! :)

Found my prediction from a month ago… here’s what I said.

I’ll say June 10th… Marty Reasoner extended. Then, the next week, an extension for Armstrong, Valabik, Salmela and Slater.

I was close… off by 2 days! ;)

GaVaHokie

June 8th, 2009
2:57 pm

Smoothie

June 8th, 2009
3:07 pm

Hip hop hooray!!! I will drink a few tonite in honor of Marty’s decision to re-sign. And a tip of the hat to Don Waddell as well for being pro-active…now I won’t have to track you down Donnie and rough you up Boulton style!! ;-)

According to the Thrashers website, it’s a two-year deal. Very happy to lock him up for 2 years. I would bet the deal is worth $3 M or so.

Looks as though GVH and I were correct that they were waiting a bit to finalize the deal and announce it on a slow news Monday!! Then again, it may just be coincidence!!

I think I now know what jersey I’ll be sporting this season!! :-)

Smoothie

June 8th, 2009
3:08 pm

http://thrashers.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=425054

This is more like it ASG!! Bravo on the thorough write-up and all the quotes from Marty the Party!!

GaVaHokie

June 8th, 2009
3:11 pm

I don’t think there’s any question he wears an “A” this season.

Kovalchuk “C”
Kozlov “A”
Armstrong “A”
Reasoner “A”

Smoothie

June 8th, 2009
3:22 pm

GVH: WORD!!

Talk about a strong locker room of leadership. Quiet and stoic leadership by example in savvy veteran Slava Kozlov. Vocal and comedic fresh-air breathed into the room by “class-clown” Colby Armstrong. Steadying veteran presence by a grinder who plays with a youthful exuberance as demonstrated by one Marty Reasoner, who seems to be well-liked by anyone who comes into contact with him. And finally our esteemed Captain who can lead not only by example, but through his ever-expanding role as voice of the team and steward of the organization. Kovalchuk seems really comfortable in his new leadership role and has really embraced the idea of being a more animated and vocal presence on the ice where he will even drop the gloves and stand up for the honor of a team-mate who has been wronged by an opponent (see McCabe fight after Pevs was knocked in the face against Fla).

I am stoked!! Now we need to go get a scrappy, physical RW with a proven ability to score (in the vein of a Mike Knuble) along with a lock-down 2nd line D-man to round things out on this roster. Now that Philly has supposedly committed to Emery over Biron, do you go after another Marty and trade Pavelec for that proven RW??

Toby

June 8th, 2009
3:29 pm

YES!!!!

D Wad has a pulse. Maybe he’s ready to get active for the most important weeks in Thrashers history….June 27th (Draft) – July 9th (Made-up date. I figure a major move needs to take place by then).

dwayne

June 8th, 2009
3:50 pm

Marty resigning, I predicted 6/8, but I didn’t write it down. You beleive me, don’t you??

Brendan

June 8th, 2009
3:51 pm

OMG, did I actually win one of these things? I never win.

ranallo10 (in AT)

June 8th, 2009
3:59 pm

Haha, Smoothie…maybe you should read the original statement again and see if it coincides with your last statement. http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-thrashers-blog/2009/06/04/thrashers-signing/#comment-2475 :)

Seems to me they hashed out the final points of the contract and immediately announced it, as we all assumed it would happen (and basically how Waddell and Reasoner’s agent said it would work out). Doesn’t matter, it’s just one more contract out of the way. Let’s see if Armstrong and Lehtonen can be locked up proactively so Waddell can focus solely on scouting reports and speaking with other GMs in order to bring in a few pieces which can ultimately convince Kovalchuk to stay.

GaVaHokie

June 8th, 2009
4:13 pm

Eklund’s latest has us interested in Alex Tanguay… that would certainly be sweet, but I won’t keep my hopes up for that… but talk about adding even more “intelligent” players to guys like Kozlov, Peverley, White and Little? Man, oh, man.

Ice Meister

June 8th, 2009
4:57 pm

This ones for all you guys that rag on Waddell all the time.
He’s 2 for 2, not huge signings, but positives signs nonetheless.

Brendan

June 8th, 2009
4:59 pm

Ice Meister, let’s hope he keeps it up all the way to the draft. If Waddell gets Kovy re-signed on July 1, he’s already earned a “B” on his offseason report card.

Smitty

June 8th, 2009
5:02 pm

Is it possible the ASG learning curve is beginning to slope upward?

Smoothie

June 8th, 2009
5:03 pm

Ranallo, we still don’t know when the terms were agreed upon or when Marty actually re-signed. All we know is that they announced his new contract today. Hell, if it wasn’t for Ben Wright we wouldn’t even know how many years. I still think this deal may have been done as early as last week or the end of the previous week. I still don’t know why the Anssi announcement took so long (and then it got buried on the Thrashers website as if it happened weeks ago), but perhaps Mr. Salmela was just super confident that he would get the deal he wanted?

Anyway, moving on. I would not mind in the least if Alex Tanguay became our prized FA forward acquisition. Like you said, he is a very intelligent player and a fine passer. However, would he have a problem playing on the right side? Does he shoot lefty? Says he is listed as a LW but don’t know how set in stone that is.

Kovy — White — Tanguay would be very nice indeed or even Kovy — Little — Tanguay if you wanted to move White down to 2nd line to play with Kozzy and Pevs. But I would hesitate if it meant taking Little off of Kovy’s line. The future upside for Mr. Little is tremendous.

Chris

June 8th, 2009
5:21 pm

The terms of the deal were 1.1 million this year and 1.2 million next year…if I read Ben Wright’s tweet correctly. 2.3 million for Marty is a STEAL, and hopefully this will lay the groundwork for Colby to get an extension in the next few weeks.He may cost a little bit more (got paid 1.2 million last year), but if we can lock him up for at least 3-4 years, I’d be unbelievably stoked.

And I’ll give credit where credit’s due…Good job, DW.

Hockey Biltong

June 8th, 2009
5:23 pm

Today is a great day!

Sara

June 8th, 2009
5:47 pm

Brendan all due respect dude but if Waddell manages to get Kovy to sign on the dotted line on July 1, he gets an A. As much as we need a top RW or C or another top four D, this club needs Captain Kovy way way way more.

And Yay on the Reasoner contract. See, all you nervous nellies worrying over nothing. ;)

Thrashers27

June 8th, 2009
5:49 pm

I would love to see Tanguay here, but I just don’t see where he’d fit in. We are much more in need of another top line RW.

I just took a look at the roster and as it stands there are 12 forwards listed. Eight of them are listed as centers. Perrin, Little, Thorburn, White, Reasoner, Slater, Peverly and Stuart. I’m sure Perrin won’t be wearing a Thrasher’s Uni next season and I don’t mind seeing Stuart and Thorbs on a wing, but we really need to unclog the drain at the pivot.

Thrashers27

June 8th, 2009
5:50 pm

Forgot to mention Little on the RW, but still seems like there are too many centers.

Ice Meister

June 8th, 2009
6:25 pm

BRendan-just trying to stay positive. Kovy’s giving DW his marching orders. He knows what he has to do and hpoefully ownership knows that their fans base is already dwindling!

I would be shocked to see Kovy signed by July 1.

Ice Meister

June 8th, 2009
6:27 pm

Just don’t see Tanguay making a difference here. Tanguay is a scorer; he needs someone to feed him. He did nothing in Montreal this year. No more Joe Sakic to Forsberg to feed him.

We still need help down the middle.

LAC

June 8th, 2009
6:31 pm

Before we ALL get too excited… Remember this and think to yourselves what the GM said about the $46 million… We did not win last season with what we had and even though two signings have taken place, there is NO new blood here that will make a BIG difference yet !

READ THIS and THINK !

Comments by The Captain !

Off-Season Game Plan looks at what Atlanta may be able to do this summer in an effort to put forth a more competitive team, which could help keep Kovalchuk in Thrasher blue.

“We need to sign some free agents, spend some money,” Kovalchuk told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “I don’t want to compete just for the playoffs. I want to compete for the Cup. I think this city deserves it.”

That’s laying it on the line, in no uncertain terms, for Thrashers management. With Kovalchuk heading into the final year of his contract, he’s taking a wait-and-see approach before getting into talks about an extension, since he wants to see significant improvement on the roster.

Next think will worthless waddell do ANYTHING tobeing in the RIGHT people for a change ?

Jameson

June 8th, 2009
6:45 pm

re. Lane Manson from the previous blog: The Carolina draft pick that was used to choose him was acquired from St. Louis. And the last I heard he was playing basketball for a Canadian college.

Smoothie

June 8th, 2009
7:15 pm

I love how some folks will turn their nose up at a guy (Tanguay) who avg 23 goals and 55 assists coming out of the lockout before missing 30+ games in 08-09. He’s not a prolific scorer but he is a smart, savvy player who knows how to pass the puck and set up his teammates. I would gladly welcome a guy who has scored at a .85 pt per gm clip most of his career!

Jameson

June 8th, 2009
7:41 pm

Brendan- I’m with Sara on this one. If all Waddell does between now and July 1 is make a qualifying offer to Armstrong, draft Kane, and re-sign Kovy, he gets at minimum an A for this off-season.

Thrashers27

June 8th, 2009
7:49 pm

Where do you put him, Smoothie? He’s a left winger. Last I looked our scoring line LWs are set. Are you suggesting putting him on a line with Reasoner and Army? I just don’t like the idea of bringing in a guy on the LW when the RW is the weak point. Little is great on a top line and Army is decent, but he’s not a top line guy. Kovy and Kozzie have the left covered. Let’s find somebody to add on the RW with Little.

Smoothie

June 8th, 2009
8:45 pm

He’s left handed so you have more flexibility than everyone thinks. If asked he might be okay with playing on the right which wood be an easier adjustment for a lefty shot. Also, he has played C as well just like B-Litts.

These players don’t have to be pigeon-holed. Heck, even Slava has been thought to have said that he wood slide to the right side if it were best for the team. And guess what? He’s a LW who runs the PP from the right circle!

English Teacher

June 8th, 2009
10:20 pm

Outstanding! Now let’s sign a couple of FA studs and get the Kovy business settled.

Darkhorse

June 8th, 2009
10:49 pm

I hope we hear about a few more RFA signings this week or next. Don’t really care either way about Slater, even though he should be cheap. Would rather that spot go to one of the young guys in the system.

If all that’s settled then DW can focus compleatly on the draft, trades and FA.

World Be Free

June 8th, 2009
10:52 pm

Smoothie-I agree Tanguay is a good player, desirable for any team. I just don’t think you pay top dollar (which he wil get) for a player that we will have to fit in a role that might not fit his skills. You pay a UFA to fill a defined fill.

I am not outting a nose up to the guy, I just don’t think he he’s what we need. That would change in Slava’s spot, if he decides to retire next year.

World Be Free

June 8th, 2009
10:53 pm

That’s a defined need!

Smoothie

June 8th, 2009
11:30 pm

Fair enough WBF! Chances are he won’t leave MTL since he grew up a Habs fan.
In other news, do the braves ever hang onto a lead? I can’t watch this kind of choking for 3 months! Are there any summer hockey leagues?? ;-)

NASCAR Dave

June 9th, 2009
12:12 am

Good one, LAC, on RAWHIDE’s BLOG about bringing back former players for the Shootout!!! HEY, Maybe we can bring back KOVY after he Retires after a Long Career elsewhere after he gets Traded at the Deadline because DONNIE [[FAILS]] to get him to SIGN…

REASONER signs… So we got our 4th Line Center… So, I guess that means SLATER should be GONE, RIGHT??? His Time is WELL UP!!! There is clearly NO PURPOSE ANYMORE for this guy on THIS TEAM!!!

It’s TIME TO REBUILD… [[[AGAIN x 5]]]

If they haven’t already cut DUM-BASS DONNIE yet, I really hope they are EYEING HIM LIKE A HAWK!!! No more of the same old CRAP ROSTERS!!!

Hey DONNIE… Go ask ask KOVY what he thinks of your CRAP ROSTERS!!!

MORON.

It’s WELL BEYOND TIME to CUT THIS CLOWN LOOSE and MOVE ON with NEW BLOOD!

World Be Free

June 9th, 2009
6:10 am

Smothie-you know, nobody has talked about trading a goalie on this blog for about a week! Lots of teams are zeroing in on the Minnesota backup, Josh Harding. Pavlec is as good, maybe better than Harding.

We are talking about UFAs and salary bumps from the cap idiots, I just wonder if the real deal will be moving a goalie around the draft.

That would open up our options for players under contract, you think?

Sean Grace

June 9th, 2009
6:59 am

This is huge. Marty does the dirty work, he plays each shift at 100%, he is sound. Hopefully this is the first of a few moves that make us a legit contender. I predict a season of redemption for Mr. Waddell.

ranallo10 (in AT)

June 9th, 2009
7:42 am

Pavlec is as good, maybe better than Harding.” — Based on what? Harding has been consistent at the NHL level and has proven he can start if needed. On the other hand Pavelec hasn’t, for the most part. Maybe Pavelec will eventually, but at this time I’d rather have Josh Harding (24, 58 NHL GP, .920 SV%, 2.49 GAA) than Ondrej Pavelec (21, 19 NHL GP, .890 SV%, 3.42 GAA) if I were in charge of acquiring a goalie who can start and help win games now.

I like Pavelec but I don’t consider him heads and shoulders better than many of his relatively young/unproven NHL piers.

World be Free

June 9th, 2009
8:07 am

Ranallo-you bring up some good points, but remember that the Wild are a defense first team. Minnesota limits odd man breaks, quality shots and rebounds. I am not disputing your numbers, but a goalie has a much better chance of being successful in the Wild’s system that in the Thrasher’s setup.

Scouting lists Pavlec as a top prospect. He doesn’t have Harding’s numbers, but Harding has never been forced into the No. 1 spot like Pavlec was last year. Harding has always been a backup.

I think both goalies will fetch a nice return in trade.

Sean-redemption? He has a long way to go, but he’s on the right track.

Crazy Ivan

June 9th, 2009
8:09 am

@Sean Grace – The Marty signing is good news but Waddell doesn’t get a redemptive pass for one signing which should have been accomplished months ago.

BTW, do you really trust Waddell after years of BS? Come on man, don’t lose any sense of objectivity because you are an officer in the fan club.

Now, if Waddell re-signs Kovy, I’ll be more inclined to look on Waddell somewhat more favorably. Until then, Waddell hasn’t done anything spectacular.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
8:09 am

Ice Meister… I don’t think you’re taking into account the amount of games Tanguay played in Montreal… he was almost a point per game player.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
8:19 am

ranallo… I would trade Pavelec to Minnesota for Harding straight up… that’s how I feel about the subject… no offense WBF.

The goalie chatter has dampened now that Philly is looking at Emery… the only two teams desperate for goaltending now are Colorado and Edmonton… both seem to be targeting Biron and Roloson.

Crazy Ivan… why should it have been done months ago? That is my next argument for everyone who thought we’d overspend for Reasoner closer to the deadline and free agency… he agreed to $1.1 and $1.2 million a year on a two year deal. That’s a standard raise.

Crazy Ivan

June 9th, 2009
8:29 am

@Hokie – Why shouldn’t it have been done months ago. Many teams get their depth players signed during the season. Reasoner had already said he wanted to stay during the season. Why procrastinate?

This signing should have never turned into a big deal. I’d like to see RFA re-signings such as Armstrong and Lehtonen.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
8:31 am

In reference to Pavelec and Harding again… looking closely at their careers… it’s amazing how similar they are.

Pavelec… Drafted 2 Round 41st overall…2005
Harding… Drafted 2 Round 38th overall… 2002

It took Harding 5 years to get regular NHL playing time (29 games in 07-08)… by this measurement, Pavelec isn’t due for regular NHL playing time until the 2010-2011 season.

Pavelec, 21 years old, has more starts then Harding did at his age.

Where am I going with this? Pavelec and his agent, Allan Walsh, need to shut the hell up and see things through the right way. Pavelec is getting more chances then they think.

I think we should stay the course… Pavelec in Chicago… Moose and Lehts on the big team.
Besides, Pavelec has one year left on his contract with RFA at the end, he doesn’t have much of a choice.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
8:34 am

Crazy Ivan… how was it a big deal? Besides people clamoring about it on message boards. Marty wasn’t worried about it… Waddell wasn’t worried about it… we’re still 3 weeks from the draft and free agency… I see it as pro-active.

We’re technically still in season. ;)

Reasoner Back To Atlanta | NHL INTEL

June 9th, 2009
9:28 am

[...] According to Chris Vivlamore of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the Atlanta Thrashers have re-signed center Marty Reasoner to a two-year deal.  The extension is reportedly worth $2.3 million over the next two seasons.  Reasoner would have become an unrestricted free agent on July 1. [...]

Ice Meister

June 9th, 2009
9:49 am

Hokie-don’t get me wrong, I like Tanguay. I just think we have more pressing needs, like a center or winger to compliment Kovy. I’d still take Antropov, because he’ll create morer space for Kovy and I think he’ll be cheaper. July 1 is a crap shoot, I just hope we have our crap together.

But if Tanguay is our primary option on July 1, I’d support getting him.

Tony C.

June 9th, 2009
10:13 am

Antropov has never played as big as he is.

Still, I wouldn’t be upset if we signed him.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
10:29 am

I would take Tanguay over Antropov 11 times out of 10… he’s one of the few guys out there that plays as smart, if not smarter than Slava Kozlov.

Doesn’t matter… I still think he stays in Montreal… they love him, he loves Montreal, they’ve got plenty of cap space.

Tim

June 9th, 2009
11:43 am

I think we should all forget about Tanguay. Unless the Canadiens don’t show any interest at all for Tanguay, he would stay in Montreal. Back in the day when he was playing in Calgary, he made it clear that he wants to play for the Canadiens. And I am pretty sure he would accept a hometown discount just to stay with Montreal.

Ice Meister

June 9th, 2009
12:05 pm

I just think Antropov would raise his game playing with Kovy.

Smoothie

June 9th, 2009
12:12 pm

Tim, I don’t think anyone here is delusional enough to think Tanguay would consider leaving MTL for ATL. We’re just bored and having fun speculating at what it would be like to have another savvy skill forward in the same vein as Kozlov, but younger to round out our Top 6. It’s a much more palatable idea, albeit a pipe dream, than signing the overrated giant, Nik Antropov. However, considering what options are avaialble to us this year in FA, Antropov may be the best we can do. If DW does go that route, I hope to God he doesn’t get more than 2 years and $3.0 M per year!!

Kovy — White — Little

Kozzy — Antro — Pevs

Stuart — Marty — Army

Boultsy — Slates — Crabb(?)

Thorbsy or Machacek

If we don’t break the bank on a Top 6 guy, draft Kane for the future, then we can invest in the more important Top 4 blueliner to round out our defensive corps. With $3 – $4.5 M to spend on a D-man, there is no reason not to go after Ohlund, Oduya or Nick Boynton.

Ice Meister

June 9th, 2009
12:28 pm

Everyone-2 names that keep popping up that are of interest-

Briere (salary dump-Philly wants Bouwmeester) the playmaker
Mike Komisarek (UFA not going back to Montreal) the thumper

Thoughts?

Thrashers27

June 9th, 2009
12:31 pm

Thrashers sign Andrew Kozek. (AtlantaThrashers.com)

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
12:46 pm

Ice Meister… I respect your insight… don’t want you to think I’m attacking you with my comments. ;)

Tanguay is one of my favorite playmakers… I love the guys with great “hockey sense”.

Smoothie… if we sign Antropov, you can bet it’s gonna be at least a 3-year $12 million deal… every year, there’s some Tier 2 guy that gets coveted by 5 teams and gets overpaid… like Ryan Malone, Vrbata, and Huselius last year.

I’m getting intrigued by the possibility of Ville Koistinen out of Nashville… Philly seems to be interested in him, and seems to liken him to Kimmo Timonen.

FED UP!

June 9th, 2009
12:48 pm

Look at Silly Sean praising his Sheep Herder Idol, LOL. Redemtion? Do Competent GM’s always need to redeem themselves each year, Silly Sean?

Darkhorse

June 9th, 2009
12:48 pm

Ice Meister-I just think Briere is too small and injury prone for the length and size of his contract left. Since this team can only afford maybe two large contracts like that on the team at once, Kovy being the other, I wouldn’t want to be hamstrung from making other moves with Briere’s 5 or 6 years remaining. If he only had maybe 2 years left on his deal, then I would have to seriously consider it if the asking price was low, but that’s not the case.

As far as Komisarek, he’s worth exploring at least. His price tag would be the deciding factor for me, but I like him. Lose Slater and Ex’s salaries and maybe you make up some cash you might lose by bringing in someone like Komisarek.

FED UP!

June 9th, 2009
12:50 pm

This time of year is hilarious with Sheep like Gava and Sean Disgrace spouting out their wild, pie in the sky predictions! Too funny! You have watched this team for the last decade, right? What makes you fools think ANYTHING will change? My Goodness.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
12:56 pm

re: Kozek… good stuff. Saw him play a little bit in the Frozen Four tournament this year. Definitely an aggressive guy who goes to the net.

Darkhorse

June 9th, 2009
12:57 pm

E.J Hradek was just on NHL Live and said Heatley has asked for a trade from Ottawa. Not much else was said about it, other than they speculated he might prefer the Western conference. He has 5 years left on his deal at about 7.5 per season.

Would anyone here like to make a push for him to come back, or do you think that bridge was burned as far as DW and fans are concerned? If his head was straight and he had matured better, I would love to see him on the right side with Kovy.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
12:57 pm

FED UP… go ahead an use your normal log in… it’s okay.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
1:01 pm

Darkhorse… gotta imagine Edmonton is on the phone right now offering Hemsky and Horcoff.

Seems crazy to me that Heatley would want out of Ottawa… he must be getting sick of Bryan Murray.

Ice Meister

June 9th, 2009
1:09 pm

Thanks for your input guys-it’s all good. Good conversation.

Again, no issue with Tanguay. Just not sure he’s what we need, but I respect everyone’s input. I have been wrong before-once or twice

I have no respect for Heatly, the way he went out the back door here. That wasn’t Waddell’s fault, he did what he could to get something for him. Dany is a snake and I’ll argue that one anytime.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
1:25 pm

This Heatley thing is picking up steam…

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=281356

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
1:29 pm

Would be interesting to see if Heatley gets traded to Edmonton for Horcoff and Hemsky… then Edmonton goes out and signs Cammalleri.

I would like Ottawa in that situation… Alfreddson Spezza and Hemsky with Horcoff as your 2nd line Center? Not bad.

Tim

June 9th, 2009
1:43 pm

Did I just read that Colorado have 44 millions tied in 13 players? Wow, they have serious cap issue. If we exploring a trade, Colorado would be a possibility, especially with a new GM, despite the fact that Vlad Putin is in power there.

DW said that he have interest of getting a dmen. Looking up on Colorado roster, I would said that we could trade for J.M. Liles and again, it will depend on the cost. Not sure if he have a NTC however.

Milan Hedjuk could be another possibility. He could solve our RW situation. However, his age bother me. But considering Kozlov age, he is not too bad.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
1:48 pm

J.M. Liles has fallen off my “desirable” list the last couple years, but wasn’t he paired up with Hainsey during the Worlds this year?

Sara

June 9th, 2009
1:49 pm

Darkhorse I think everyone in ATL would take Heater back in a heartbeat if he actually wanted to come here…but that ain’t happening.

If I were Doug Wilson in SJ, I’d be on the phone with Murray yesterday finding out if Dany does in fact want out. Wilson’s got plenty of primo pieces he’s willing to part with at this point and I think Heater would be a good fit on that team. Of course the Wings fan in me screams bloody murder about that thought, but from an analytical standpoint, I think it’s a win-win for everyone involved.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
2:18 pm

I think Heatley would be happy in LA… it’s pretty socially acceptable to burn down Sunset Blvd in a Ferrari.

Frolov and Jack Johnson for Heatley, perhaps?

Smoothie

June 9th, 2009
3:04 pm

I wouldn’t take Heatley back if he gave up half of his salary. He turned his back on ATL after most fans did nothing but support his sorry azz after the tragedy involving Dan. We boo Hossa simply for not wanting to play for an “inferior” organization; why would we want back a guy who asked in no uncertain terms for a change of scenery. The Western Conf can have him.

Moose

June 9th, 2009
3:11 pm

La premiere d’douchebag – DANY HEATLEY. Dany enjoy that reception in Ottawa.

Spud Webb

June 9th, 2009
3:37 pm

Ok, good, we got reasoner. Good job DW. That doesnt mean I will stop ripping the guy. Yes I wanted that to happen, but he is our 3rd or 4th line center, a good 2 way player that plays hard. He has his role & does it very, very well.
Now lets get ready for July 1st. Tanquey, the only way I say we sign him is if we get some grit and muscle elsewhere. Tanquey is finesse which is fine, but we have a lot of finesse and not much toughness. Kovy can hold his own, but what would we do when someone runs Alex??? NOTHING because we have nothing to give. God I’m just hoping/wishing we do some exciting things this offseason, please DW please do something BIG!!!!!!!!!!!

Spud Webb

June 9th, 2009
3:44 pm

wow, just saw the heatly thing. WTF??????????? thought he “loved” Ottawa?? What a great hockey town it was, unlike Atlanta???
Well yet another prima donna (spelling??), I didn’t expect that from him. Nancy strikes again.

Smoothie

June 9th, 2009
3:53 pm

“Yes I wanted that to happen, but he is our 3rd or 4th line center, a good 2 way player that plays hard. He has his role & does it very, very well.”

Not to pick on you Spud, but c’mon, Marty has always been our 3rd C and will continue to be. 4th C play less than 10 min / game. I don’t think Marty has ever played less than 10 / game in his career. In fact, Marty is capable of playing 2nd line mins in a pinch.

He’s got better hands than Franken-bobby and while he may not be as effective on short-handed draws, he was 57% FOW for even strength F/O, which is probably in the Top 10 for guys with over 1,000 draws. I understand folks’ penchant for bashing Waddell, but I don’t see any reason to throw Marty under the bus as well when he has done nothing to play better than his $1 M salary.

Y’all should be thrilled that we locked up our 3rd C for less than $1.5 M / season. Me thinks Marty understands the reality of a cashflow hampered ownership group that cannot afford to overpay at every key position. Marty wants to win and I would not be surprised if he sacrificed some scratch so there would be more money available to attract a Top 6 forward and a Top 4 D-man.

GaVaHokie

June 9th, 2009
4:04 pm

The best thing about Reasoner being signed for $1.5 million, means we have a lot further to go to get to the cap floor. ;)

Brendan

June 9th, 2009
4:29 pm

Hokie, thank you for that link about Heatley wanting out of Ottawa. It’s rather telling, isn’t it? He couldn’t get his way, so he wants to put up his pucks and sticks and go elsewhere. I never thought I’d say this, but maybe we really are better off for having lost Heatley. I once saw Heatley as “essential” to the future of the Thrashers. Now, I’m inclined to suspect he’ll be a problem where he goes … that he can’t have what he wants, when he wants it.

Hokie, Ottawa would be better off with Hemsky and Horcoff while shipping out Heater to Alberta. Didn’t Heatley grow up in Calgary? Imagine if Edmonton really got Heatley and Cammalleri for next season? That’d be interesting to watch.

Hey, where are we, cap wise, right now? How far until we reach the FLOOR?

Smoothie

June 9th, 2009
5:15 pm

Brendan, I’ve got my own tracking sheet for the Cap and with the help of nhlnumbers.com, I’ve got the Thrashers currently at $29,769,000 including a guess of $725 K per season for Anssi Salmela. So we’re roughly $11 M under the floor of $40.7 M if that number is right.

Alan

June 9th, 2009
5:21 pm

$40.7m was the cap floor for last season. It’s probably going to be somewhere between $37m and $39m this coming season. Regardless of that, D-Wad has a lot of work left to do.

HAD ENOUGH?

June 9th, 2009
5:41 pm

D-Wad says his dream job is in Detroit. Guess what, Don? Detroit would NEVER let you in. Besides, now that I see that comment from you, I feel like I did when Jim Mora said his “dream job is in Washington”. And guess what happened after Mora said that?

Brendan

June 9th, 2009
5:45 pm

In Game Four, I think, Commissioner Bettman came on TV during the 1st intermission to talk about the cap. Not specifically, but as one of the issues. The Commish was quite candid. He said, “Either the players take their 5% incentives, and the cap stays the same as last year, or they don’t, and it drops a couple of million.” Now, I can’t recall, specifically, if he said, “by $3 million.” But that figure wouldn’t shock me in the slightest.

Tell ya what? My “guess” is that the cap stays pretty much the same. Might go to $57 million. Might drop to $56 million. If so, that’s fairly stable, either way. My other guess is that it won’t go under $53 million, if it decreases. But what do I know? NHL accounting leave a lot to be desired, in my opinion.

Smoothie

June 9th, 2009
5:50 pm

Thanks Alan! If that’s the case, we prolly will have a self-imposed cap ceiling of $45 M, which leaves us just about $15M to spend on 5 forwards (slater, army, crabb, thorby and a FA), 2 d-men (big bo and a FA) and of course an ext for kari ($3.5 M cap hit?). Let’s say colby gets $2.5 M per and the combo of slates, boris, crabb and thorby costs around $3.25 M total. Then that leaves only $5.75 M for two FA. Let’s hope the ASG is willing to spend more like $48 M so we have a better chance at a top 4 d-man and a serviceable 25 goal scoring RW.

Ogie Olglethorpe

June 9th, 2009
6:03 pm

Brendan on Heatley – Didn’t Heatley grow up in Calgary?

Problem is, he never grew up!

ranallo10 (in AT)

June 9th, 2009
6:59 pm

Sometimes the longevity of what I consider asinine grudges simply astounds me.

Kovalchuk was asked during the All Star Game if he would like to play with Heatley, again (or something to that effect). His response was (paraphrased) “yeah, I’ll talk to Dany and see if he wants to come back to Atlanta”. I’m pretty sure such a conversation is tampering, but the point I’m trying to highlight is that if Kovalchuk is willing (even jokingly) to accept his former teammate back, why can’t all of the Kovalchuk worshiping Atlanta fans want the same?

I understand disliking players because of playing style, personality, etc…but saying you wouldn’t take a 80+ point scorer simply because he at ONE time made an ambiguous statement that hurt your feelings is, in my opinion, asinine.

I dislike Daniel “Sir Dives A Lot” Briere, but adding his talent to the roster would be amazing. The same goes for Sidney Crosby. I will never agree with booing Heatley, nor will I agree with the bad wishes or comments spewed his way whenever his name is mentioned. To me it’s childish that one cannot look past a comment made four years ago by a 24 year old kid.

If Atlanta was lucky enough to have Heatley don a Thrashers uniform again, we all would be happy to have a player of his talent on the roster.

ranallo10 (in AT)

June 9th, 2009
7:10 pm

I guess I should’ve closed with “steps off soap box”.

Smoothie

June 9th, 2009
7:16 pm

Ranallo, u should know better, fandom is never completely rational. As for heatley, how was his request ambiguous?
I reckon mgmnt might have tried to persuade him a bit more if he was ambiguous or ambivalent in his stance? Besides that, what good would it do Heater to come back here and open old wounds?

ranallo10 (in AT)

June 9th, 2009
7:50 pm

“Besides that, what good would it do Heater to come back here and open old wounds”

I definitely agree, but wouldn’t that be his decision to make? I’m not disillusioned into thinking it’d be business as usual for him coming to Atlanta, nor am I delusional and believe it’s possible Atlanta could or would pull off such a trade…but why should fans close the door simply due to something that happened four years ago?

Was what he said really that bad or hurtful or inaccurate that a fan can not look past it? I don’t feel it was.

Ogie Oglethorpe

June 9th, 2009
8:18 pm

Heatley to Calgary for Dion Phaneuf and Elisha.

Ottawa is looking for a defenseman to replace Chara’s minutes and toughness. Heatley will replace Mike Cammalleri’s goals when he leaves for free agency on July 1.

Dany will not be coming back to Atlanta.

Smoothie

June 9th, 2009
9:01 pm

Ran, there wasn’t really anything hurtful in his comments, but I think a lot of passionate fans felt betrayed by a young man who gave up on his team becuz the mental stress of the guilt was too much to bear.

Now if Ottawa’s mgmnt were the ones shopping him becuz they were ready to give up on heatley, I still think a lot of fans would prefer that he never wear thrasher blue again.

Funny thing is that more fans seemed willing to forgive his poor judgment on that fateful nite than there are who would be willing to forgive him for making a deliberate choice to leave without giving it more time for the wounds to heal.

World Be Free

June 9th, 2009
10:43 pm

Right on Smoothie- I couldn’t have said it better

World Be Free

June 9th, 2009
10:46 pm

Ran-it would be best if Heatley didn’t come back here. What happened here was different than other player/team separations.

Let him go out west where he’ll be happy. We can concentrate on other players.

LAC

June 10th, 2009
5:23 am

Gee Whiz Smoothie, with that lineup we “might” increase our point total next season by TWO. That lineup has been tried, for the most part and FAILED… Next ?

Alan

June 10th, 2009
6:50 am

Tell ya what? My “guess” is that the cap stays pretty much the same. Might go to $57 million. Might drop to $56 million. If so, that’s fairly stable, either way.

Which goes against his own words saying the cap could fall to $54m… which would cause an almost equal fall in the cap floor.

dwayne

June 10th, 2009
8:45 am

Accidents happen all the time, people handle them in different ways. Dany back in Atl would be great…Just ask Kovy…wait…i’ll ask him, I got him on speed dial. We singed Kozek?? Our troubles are over.

Russian

June 10th, 2009
8:46 am

I will take Heatly back with his Contract. If he wants to come back. KOvy and Heatly will be great pair forwards. They are friends. We have money and Don just pick up a phone and make call to Agent. :-)

dwayne

June 10th, 2009
9:51 am

amen Russian!!!!

GaVaHokie

June 10th, 2009
10:31 am

Nah, if Heatley came back, he’d have to do his community service. ;) …plus, I’m sure he’s been scared off enough by the “pitch fork and flaming torch” justice down here… this town would NEVER let him forget that accident. I’m sure he hasn’t forgotten everyone’s “warm” reception of him over the last couple years.

Yeah, I would say Atlanta is still #30 on his list, right behind staying in Ottawa at #29.

Thrashers27

June 10th, 2009
11:51 am

At one point the TSN.com article on Heatley gave a list of teams he said he would not accept a trade to and Atlanta was one of those teams. I don’t see that bit of info on that page anymore.

Brendan

June 10th, 2009
12:15 pm

Alan, the Commissioner was pretty consistent. He said the players either take their incentives, and the cap stays the same. Essentially. Or they don’t, and it drops a few million. If they take the incentives, does the cap stay, precisely, at $56.7 million? Shrugs. Maybe. Maybe not. But it should be fairly close to that figure. If they don’t take the bonuses, then the figure drops by a few million, per the Commish.

Hokie, I agree with you. Heatley isn’t coming back here. There’s perhaps as many as 10 reasons that he won’t. But his “failsafe” reason is that “the memories are too painful in Atlanta.” Fine. I’ll let it go. I’d love to have a player of Heatley’s caliber in Atlanta. For sure. But … I don’t think we’ll ever see him here again.

NASTY NEST

June 10th, 2009
12:25 pm

OSGOOD, OSGOOD, YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alan

June 10th, 2009
1:15 pm

Heatley gave a list of teams he said he would not accept a trade to and Atlanta was one of those teams

Not that we really want him back, anyway. From what I’ve been hearing, he has a history of wanting out when things don’t go his way.

GaVaHokie

June 10th, 2009
1:45 pm

Brendan… he wants to play out West to even FURTHER reduce his trips to Atlanta. It has nothing to do with Ottawa itself. ;)

Spud Webb

June 10th, 2009
2:39 pm

Smoothie I dont disagree, Marty is decent & I’m not knocking him. I just wish/hope/pray that DW doesnt think that he’s done enough. We need a number 1 legit center in my opinion. I don’t want to see todd white as a number one.

Brendan

June 10th, 2009
4:14 pm

I hadn’t thought of that, Hokie. Playing in Calgary or Edmonton, he’d certainly reduce those trips to Phillips Arena in Atlanta, GA. Would Heatley really go to the Oilers? I don’t know. I think he’d rather have Calgary or Vancouver. It’d be fewer games in the United States, too.

Smoothie

June 10th, 2009
4:20 pm

I hear ya Spud, but I don’t think we’ll see any new C in the ATL unless DW decides to trade White while his value has never been higher. You may have to settle for White on the top line and 82 games of the Pevervivacious one, which in my humble opinion, is a good thing. Get Pevs a more rugged, crash-the-net style of RW to complement his supreme speed and puck-handling skills and I think you’ll see at least 60 points from both Kozzy and Rich. And I’m feeling pretty good about the potential chemistry between the Professor and the Pevs Dispenser!

GaVaHokie

June 10th, 2009
4:42 pm

Brendan… I think a straight up trade of Phaneuf for Heatley makes sense for both sides… they should do that immediately.

However, I think they’ll wait until July 1st to see if Bouwmeester will sign with Calgary, which I believe he will, then we’ll see Phaneuf and Heatley swapped.

Question will be, how does Calgary handle having two RW’s in Iginla and Heatley?

ranallo10 (in AT)

June 10th, 2009
5:21 pm

How does losing Phaneuf help Calgary?

Brendan

June 10th, 2009
6:17 pm

I’d rather have Phaneuf than Heatley. Apples and oranges, I do realize. But Heatley seems like he’s got some “personal issues.” Come to think of it, I remember an article that said Heatley fired several agents right about the time frame of the swap for Hossa process. Maybe I’m reading too much into that? But when a player switches agents frequently, wants to be traded frequently, irrespective of the reasons, it doesn’t give the impression of stability. If I’m Calgary, for sure I want a player of Heatley’s caliber, but do I really think he isn’t going to ask to be traded again at some point? And how much “fun” is that, if you’re the GM? Such requests should be kept private, when made, to give the GM as much advantage in trading the player as possible. How much “sayso” does Heatley really have in this trade? What if Ottawa traded Heater to Florida, or some other place he didn’t really want to be?

If the Flames have Iggy and Heater, I think they play on separate lines. Try to keep Cammalleri in the mix, and see with which one he cliques the best.

B. Thenet

June 11th, 2009
8:17 am

I have to admit, I am really enjoying the way Dany Heatley is being trashed in Ottawa by the fans and the media.

It’s not so nice being in a real hockey market anymore, is it Dany boy?

GaVaHokie

June 11th, 2009
8:55 am

Ranallo… Calgary wants to sign Bouwmeester. Granted, they’d probably be better off keeping Phaneuf and ADDING Bouwmeester than trying to shuffle around two elite RW’s like Iginla and Heatley… but I’m just going off of trade chatter that was saying Calgary is willing to move Phaneuf for the right pieces. And this was before the Heatley issue came up.

GaVaHokie

June 11th, 2009
9:55 am

Nice… here we go… everyone’s favorite chart! :)

http://thefourthperiod.com/freeagents/top30ufas.html

Midfield

June 11th, 2009
10:52 am

Brendan, are you hinting on Heatly’s subliminally paranoic wish to restrict the number of trips to Atlanta?

Brendan

June 11th, 2009
11:26 am

If Heatley truly wanted to avoid Atlanta entirely, he could go play in Europe. He won’t. And he’s under contract. A fact which Ottawa’s GM has grimacingly reminded him. Before we leave this topic entirely, the GM holds the cards there. Murray can “start the bidding” with Heatley. And if/when he hears an offer he likes, then he’ll trade him. But if Dany Heatley, at the end of the day, is the best player Ottawa can field for the money, he’s got to show up to training camp and play the season. If he doesn’t, he’ll get fined. Possibly even suspended. To quote Ilya Kovalchuk, “I have to do what the little slip of paper says.” Dany Heatley must do likewise. He signed a legally, binding contract. No one put a gun to his head. He chose to re-sign with Ottawa, for the terms and dollars that were agreed upon.

Hey, maybe Ottawa will offer Heatley to the Islanders for the 1st overall pick in the draft. Ha,ha,ha. Then again, I’d wager the Islanders did make “Heatley’s list” of non-trade teams. Wait, Heatley allegedly wants to go out West, right? Heatley to Colorado for pick #3 in the draft. Kidding. I tease. I kid.

Brendan

June 11th, 2009
11:27 am

Hokie, nice list. I can’t help but notice that Atlanta doesn’t even appear on the radar for the top 30 free agents, or any of the honorable mentions.

GaVaHokie

June 11th, 2009
11:54 am

Brendan… they are listed for Samuelsson.

Ice Meister

June 11th, 2009
12:11 pm

Antropov is not listed as a top 30 UFA or honorable mention?
He’s not 2nd tier, maybe 3rd tier?

I do not see Calgary trading Dion. They do not have a defenseman to replace his minutes. Besides, why trade a hard hitting team player like Dion for a one-way wuss like Dany.

dwayne

June 11th, 2009
12:45 pm

if heatley really wanted to avoid playing against Atl. in Atl. he could whine his way into a healthy scratch and stay home. With the arrival of Pevs last year and White playing as well as he did, a top Center should not be a priority, unless one falls in DW’s lap(fat chance) with emery signing with Philly, what happen to Biron or that other goalie that Lehtonin cant beat??

ranallo10 (in AT)

June 11th, 2009
1:23 pm

Ice Meister — Antropov is #17 on the list.

GaVaHokie

June 11th, 2009
1:31 pm

Dwayne… we were just joking about Heatley not wanting to play against Atlanta.

GaVaHokie

June 11th, 2009
1:49 pm

Wow… from FourthPeriod.com… for Dany Heatley:

It’s believed the Kings are willing to put together a package that could include such assets as defenseman Jack Johnson, forward Alexander Frolov and the fifth-overall pick in this year’s NHL Entry Draft.

Sara

June 11th, 2009
3:29 pm

I’d take Heater back simply because if he came back at this point, it would be because he chose to do so. Him making the choice to come back to ATL would supercede everything else that happened in the past. That said, I have zero expectations he would come back to ATL, even if we were the ones in the SCF right now instead of the Pens.

Hokie – that trade would be moronic – eclipsing even Milbury standards of moronic. To give up three prime young players for one guy is insane – no matter how good that one guy is. I still think the best bet is San Jose – I think they have to most to spare given the roster changes Wilson has indicated he wants to make and I think Heater fits into the identity of that club.

GaVaHokie

June 11th, 2009
3:37 pm

Sara… I agree… I would hope it’s a “swap” of 1st round picks and not JUST the Kings giving up their first pick. That would give Ottawa 2 picks in the Top Ten, Frolov and Johnson… that’s insane.

I agree on San Jose… that’s a team that needs a superstar RW… they can easily let go of Clowe and Pavelski and not miss a beat… I also wonder if Marleau would waive his NTC for Ottawa?

ranallo10 (in AT)

June 11th, 2009
3:41 pm

I think it’s more sensible to see Cheechoo plus prospects involved if Heatley were going to San Jose.

Ice Meister

June 11th, 2009
4:59 pm

Ice Meister

June 11th, 2009
5:02 pm

The problem with Heatley is his contract. That’s going to be quite a burden for some club at a time when the cap is going down.

Dany scores alot, but that’s all he really brings to the table. That may sound silly, but a $7.5M guy has to be able to do alot to justify the bucks. He’s also go some baggage.

Look for st. Louis as a dark horse here (no reference to DarkHorse)

Brendan

June 11th, 2009
5:07 pm

I stand corrected, Hokie. Glad to see Atlanta made the list, after all. I hope Heatley doesn’t wind up in SJ. That’d be the second time he finagled his way out of his obligations and onto a Stanley Cup contender.

Alan

June 11th, 2009
5:38 pm

If you’re counting championship teams, Brendan, it would be his third. He left from playing for SC Bern (Swiss-A) during the lockout to come here for court. Upon leaving, he wound up in Kazan. The Berns fans weren’t happy, as one can imagine.

For the record, the Ak Bars Kazan team also featured the likes of Kovalchuk, Kozlov, Datsyuk, and Lecavalier. They finished 4th with a record of 37-17-5 and were eliminated in the first round of the RSL playoffs.

Meanwhile, SC Bern finished 8th that year with a record of 18-18-8, and was eliminated in the second round of the Nationalliga-A playoffs.

GaVaHokie

June 11th, 2009
9:49 pm

Eklund’s latest has us interested in Phil Kessel, as well as other teams… stating that Boston is making him available.

Gotta think after they sigend Krejci, they’re in a tough spot looking ahead to Lucic negotiations next year.

Darkhorse

June 11th, 2009
11:21 pm

I heard Kessel’s salary demand were what was in question. If the Kings gave up that much for Heatley, I would suspect they had the Clippers GM doing double duty. No way we could, or should match giving up that much, even if he wanted to come back here.

When are we supposed to hear the final cap numbers for next season. The more it goes down, the better it helps us.

dwayne

June 12th, 2009
6:16 am

uh…thank you for pointing that out.

Janna

June 12th, 2009
12:23 pm

Hey Thrashers fans. Ottawa fan here. Can we have KOVALCHUK?? LOL. That guy can shoot circles around Heatley…ok, so wishful thinking on my part…I can dream, right??

Alan

June 12th, 2009
12:33 pm

ok, so wishful thinking on my part…I can dream, right??

You’re welcome to dream!

… He’s ours, though. Sorry! ;)

(You can keep Heatley!)

Alan

June 12th, 2009
12:34 pm

Oh, damn. Forgot to close my italics.