Good news on injuries

Ilya Kovalchuk, Zach Bogosian and Ron Hainsey are listed as probable for Friday night’s game against the Red Wings. Boris Valabik is questionable; Jim Slater is out.

What did you think about Matt Cooke’s knee-on-knee against Bogosian? I thought it was a dangerous and intentional act, the kind of thing that could threaten a guy’s career. Blows to the head get a lot of attention, and they should, but knee injuries also can be devastating to a player’s ability to continue to earn a living.

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kracker

March 18th, 2009
3:25 pm

Looked deliberate to me and quite nasty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Opu27qvhFA

There’s another good youtube video from a Pittsburgh source that clearly shows the knee hit, if I can find it I will post the link.

JCOB72

March 18th, 2009
3:33 pm

Clean hit all the way. He tried to move out of the way and thats why he got hurt. Man up and take a hit!!

kracker

March 18th, 2009
3:47 pm

This is interesting. Fom the Thrashers forum. —begin paste

Here is what is going on concerning last nights pens/thrashers game. Betman’s office has asked for video to review. Other than the hit by Cooke on Bogosian, they will also look at Crosby’s high stick to Enstrom, Guerin’s stick to Boulton, and the big brawl. Waddell has made a call to Bettman to voice his displeasure. A report will be made by the officials and there will be an investigation of comments made by players and staff on both teams including threats from Atlanta towards Cooke, Malkin and Crosby, and comments made by Cooke and Crosby.

Apparently Bettman is not too happy about this going on the same night as Broduer’s big night. I don’t expect him to do anything about it though because it will only take attention away from the “good NHL news.”

end paste— I don’t know the source for that but it looks like the league office is none to happy with how the Pens in particular played the game. Like the guy said, though, probably nothing will be done.

nhl joke

March 18th, 2009
4:04 pm

it’s a joke. last week exelby throws a late and high hit, he gets a fine. slater gets his head taken off by a flying elbow and nothing. earlier in the year..crosby punches valabik in the nards and gets nothing. cooke won’t get anything. i’m not saying there is a conspiracy against us, we do enough damage to our chances of winning without the league allowing us to get cheap shotted, but the thrashers need more plays like what boulton did. start going after people, since the league clearly has a huge double standard, and we have to let other teams know it’s not acceptable to take runs at us. same thing with A.O. alex the great goes mad, throwing high hits at our players heads – nothing. bring back francis lessard, he’ll attack anyone to start a brawl, that’s what we need. start targeting the crosby’s of the league, start getting our elbows up, etc etc. i’m glad bogo and boults took it personally last night and at least tried to do something about it.

LAC

March 18th, 2009
4:07 pm

Cooke’s knee to knee was on purpose and he should go for three games minimum.

Crotchby, the NHL whiner,needs to take it like a man not s sniviling
little pig. A nice ramming of his head to the goalpost or an open door at the bench would be in order… maybe cost him his average career…

Thatwould be NO loss to the NHL. But for sure the league needs to start distancing itself from this crybaby, he is NOT good enough to be their poster boy !

nfieldr

March 18th, 2009
4:08 pm

But still… Sid the Kid is marketing gold for the league. I don’t expect anything to come out of this. BTW, nice comment JCOB2. A clean hit is one thing, but IM(NS)HO, Cooke was definitely headhunting on Bogosian. I really hoped that someone on the Thrasher would have made him answer for that.

blueland outsider

March 18th, 2009
4:17 pm

The manning up happened when Bogo didn’t hit the ice, but instead went straight to Cooke and wanted to make him answer for the crap hit. Clean hits lead with the hip or the shoulder – dirty hits (like Cooke’s & Ruutu’s hit on Kovy last year) lead with the legs.

I got videos:

http://bluelandoutsider.blogspot.com/2009/03/i-mean-honestly-who-throws-shoe.html

Masha7Player

March 18th, 2009
4:21 pm

Cooke’s hit was dirty – plain and simple. I would love for Pens fans to come on this blog and defend their bitchy, cry-baby, head-hunting team. The Pens are a much better team than the Thrash…no doubt. They do not need to play that way. Those of us who play hockey know the code…you play hard, you hit, take care of business. Whether you are playing rec hockey or in the pros, no clean hockey player is going to try and take away a guy’s livelihood.

The Thrashers didn’t even get a chance to pay back Cooke. Pens coach Bylsma only played him for 1-2 shifts..he knew that Cooke had a target on his back. Maybe next season. And I love how Exelby got 2 min for the push on Malkin. Come on!!! I know the refs were trying to control the game at the end, but it’s another case of the NHL not letting anyone touch their stars!

Masha7Player

March 18th, 2009
4:24 pm

And while I am ranting….Sid the Baby can’t be the best player in the NHL..he’s not even the best player on his team. And Ovechkin is by far the best player in the NHL. But I will say that Sid is tough..I mean he tried to cheap shot the Thrashers smallest guy – Toby Enstrom. What an idiot…he probably beat up all the girls on his midget team…although those Canadian girls are tough…he probably got the snot beaten out of him.

Midfield

March 18th, 2009
4:30 pm

Yeah, “clean hit, the guy tried to avoid the hit” is the standard talking point from Pittsburgh. I think Bettman needs to rethink his Crosby marketing strategy: it does not work. Pittsburgh is Malkin’s team more than it is Crosby’s in the first place, and with all the controversy, it undermines NHL image, not promotes it.

Joshgekko

March 18th, 2009
4:38 pm

My problem with the Exelby penalty is that Malkin didnt get a penalty as well. I understand getting the game under control, but at least make it even. Especially since the entire reason Ex shoved Malkin is because he was shoved first!

ranallo10 (in AT)

March 18th, 2009
4:50 pm

Pittsburgh is Malkin’s team more than it is Crosby’s in the first place

I have to disagree with you there Midfield. Malkin might outperform Crosby, but the C on Crosby’s chest shows what he means to the team. I’m sure Malkin is a fine locker room guy etc, but trying to say ONE of them is more important than the other is like comparing Lemieux and Jagr during their Pittsburgh days. I like to think any team, even Pittsburgh, isn’t awarding captaincy based on marketability.

Brendan

March 18th, 2009
5:06 pm

I didn’t like that Cooke hit on Bogosian, at all. To me, it didn’t seem like a “hockey play.” It seemed like a viscious attempt to injure, that was premeditated. I think a fine should be in order. I think Mike Knobler has it exactly right. “Dangerous and intentional.”

Midfield

March 18th, 2009
5:58 pm

Ranallo, we agree to disagree. I agree with Kovy on Crosby: the only reason he’s being pumped up is that he’s picked to be the future of Canadian hockey, another Wayne Gretzky. Well, it does not seem to be working out for the Sid the whiner kid, and the amount of respect for the guy is going down with every season, while it has to go up. If I remember correctly, Gretzky’s career went the other way altogether: when Edmonton joined the NHL, a lot of people talked him down as too soft to survive in the league.

Brian

March 18th, 2009
5:58 pm

Keep whining Thrasher fans, you’ll get a hockey team some day. I guess I can’t blame you though, you complain about Crosby being the ‘face of the league’ and your only opportunity of the face of any league was Michael Vick, and we know how that turned out. Wait unitl Kovalchuk leaves that God awful liberal sports town and then you can keep crying about how your minor league hockey team gets treated by the league. Your a bunch of whining girls… come to Pittsburgh to enjoy a real sports town.. Super Bowl champions, soon to be NCAA basketball champions… Stanley Cup finalists last year… I guess I have to mention our minor league baseball team that poses as a major league team, but plays in the greatest ball park in the country!

Keith

March 18th, 2009
6:08 pm

Brian, do you feel better now? I think PITTS – burgh says it all. Have you ever visited Atlanta? Why don’t you plan on taking some time off during your typical winter day and come visit us in the sunny south. Perhaps you could check out the passion of the hockey fans in Atlanta at Philips arena. Or perhaps you could find out where Kovalchuk’s beautiful NEW home in Atlanta is located and drive by. You Pittsburgh fans live in a cloud. You think that is the only place to play hockey. Hey, I think Colby Armstrong is pretty happy here too. While we do not have the championship teams, I would put our city against yours any time. We’ll see how the next few years go. Remember Zach Bogosian, oh that’s right your Matt Cooke took a real cheap shot on him last night. Well he is one of the core young and talented players who are maturing and showing us their stuff right now. It seems to me the Penguins might have been in a similar position as recent as the the draft that you brought you Sidney Crosby.

Brian

March 18th, 2009
6:33 pm

Keith, you need to get out of your southern bubble and travel before you comment. For the record, Atlanta has the 5th highest murder rate in the country. Pittsburgh not in the to 25. Atlanta has the 3rd highest property crime rate. Pittsburgh not in the top 50. Atlanta has the 9th highest burglary rate. Pittsburgh not in the top 50. This is all based on percentages of population. Georgia has the 9th highest unemployment rate. Pennsylvania 34th. Take the Braves away and you have nothing! Enjoy the warm weather. Sounds like a great place to live

Keith

March 18th, 2009
6:54 pm

Hey Brain, I read your papers. I see the same sad crimes in your city as well as ours. This blog is about hockey. Take the Braves away and you have nothing!” What ignorance. Go blog away in Pittsburgh. The game was over last night.

RobD

March 18th, 2009
7:12 pm

Brian, why are you even on here? To defend Matt Cooke’s honor? The video shows he has none. Find something useful to do besides look up statistics on the internet. Every person I know who is originally from Pittsburgh and lives in Atlanta–fine people by the way–loves it here. Does migration the other way even exist? (I know, now I’m inviting you to make up a bunch of stuff about how everyone you know who has ever lived in Atlanta hated it and wished the whole time they were in Pittsburgh. Let’s hear it.)

By the way, what exactly is a “liberal sports town” anyway?

Gordon

March 18th, 2009
7:14 pm

Brain, the reason why the Pitt is so low, stats wise is that everyone left 10 years ago who had a clue. Hockey in the Pitt has not always been great and if memory is correct, you all came along in the second 6. Thus, you have had 40 plus years. Check back with Atlanta after 40 years and we’ll compare. It should be easy as you will probably live here by then too. May be a southern bubble thing, but it hasn’t been rusting for the last 30 years and no one is leaving.

Oh! one last thing, how strong was that franchise, that someone who played had to be talked into accepting part ownership in part for pay or something like that,,,, or the team was going to have to leave the Pitt with everyone else. By the way, that is just a matter of time. No one left to attend!

ranallo10 (in AT)

March 18th, 2009
7:17 pm

Midfield — I’m not debating the caliber of player Crosby is compared to Malkin…personally I like Malkin’s game and feel he’s the “better” of the two. I’m merely saying I disagree with you that the team is Malkin’s. The best player isn’t always the face of the team, and more often than not I’d contend the captain is the heart and sole of the team itself. Crosby is Pittsburgh’s captain, which to me states that his team feels he’s the most deserving purpose for that position.

In Atlanta, the Thrashers are Kovalchuk’s team. He wasn’t the captain prior to this season, but it’s been his team since Mellanby’s arrival (in my opinion). If you’re saying that Malkin, like Kovalchuk, is TRULY the team leader despite the C on his chest, then we simply agree to disagree. I feel that Crosby’s C shows that Pittsburgh is his team, though I prefer Malkin as an individual player.

Gordon

March 18th, 2009
7:25 pm

Crosby was made captain before Malkin came along. He was annointed the face of the NHL. Can someone reasonably tell me when a person who has been named the youngest captain ever since he was 19 or 20 and the NHL face while still puting up very good numbers was UN-made captain by his team because a new younger guy comes along a year or two later from outside North America??? Be real that won’t happen the wagon was hitched up to Croth Punch for the next ten years hell or high water. The NHL would have to start from scrath and they won’t do that until Crotch Punch totally flames out.

Alan

March 18th, 2009
8:35 pm

kracker, I searched the thread where that comment was posted, but can’t seem to find an original source for that. I’d love to know whether or not that is true, or if it’s just some tripe posted in an effort to placate a fanbase.

Ray

March 18th, 2009
8:43 pm

Brian,

Pittsburgh’s population peaked in the late ’50s and residents have been moving south since. My grandparents are among this group. Who wants to live in one of the arm pits of the country when there are so many beautiful places to live? Clearly not former residents of PA generally and Pittsburgh specifically. PA has the oldest average age of any state in the country because the talented young people leave, while only the elderly and less productive remain. Yes, the Steelers are great.

Ray

Jamie Fehr

March 18th, 2009
8:45 pm

JCOB72, your a plug buddy, he takes a run at a guy who is 18 years old, thats real hero material. matt cooke is notorious for stirring the pot and not backing it up. you man up buddy i would like to matt cooke you. speaking of manning up you think the pens could stop diving out there, very soft wow. it is a little early to be practicing for the summer olympics.

Jamie Fehr

March 18th, 2009
8:46 pm

very true blueland outsider

Jamie Fehr

March 18th, 2009
8:48 pm

could you say something hockey related brian?? real smart one you are. plug

ranallo10 (in AT)

March 18th, 2009
8:50 pm

Gordon — I understand your opinion, and I think it’s a valid point about Malkin’s mark not being made on the team prior to Crosby’s being named captain. I also agree that it’s not often you see a player be removed from the captaincy when he’s been basically anointed as the savior of the team by ownership and fans alike.

However, if he was unfit for the Captaincy, or if Malkin were more fit, I would contend the changes could and would be made. The players and coaches in the locker room don’t care about Crosby being “the face of the NHL”, they care about how his leadership helps the team.

In my opinion, Malkin is not the “heart and soul” of their franchise. Crosby is. In my opinion Malkin is the better individual player. His superior skills does not make him a better leader…the better leader is the person who the team rallies behind…and in my opinion that is Crosby.

But I can agree to disagree, especially in light of your good points that I mentioned previously.

Jamie Fehr

March 18th, 2009
8:52 pm

brian your a piece of work. these guys are right. pittsburgh is finally a decent team, and how many top 5 picks have they had in the last 8 or 9 years?? 8 maybe 9 ha ha. i could draft a winning team like that dude.

mknobler

March 18th, 2009
9:02 pm

Jason on my previous blog post asked what Thrashers coach John Anderson thought of Cooke’s hit on Bogosian. Tuesday night, after the game, Anderson told me he didn’t have a very good view of it. It happened on the bench side of the ice, and Anderson was screened by the boards. I will ask him about it again on Thursday; he will have seen it on film.

Brendan

March 18th, 2009
10:43 pm

Mike Knobler, it is great news for Thrasher fans who wish to see the team’s upsurge continue, with the return of Kovalchuk, Bogosian, and Hainsey.

The bottom of the league’s standings are really, truly, up for grabs. The Thrashers can catch a few teams, especially at the pace they’ve been on. Tonight, Chicago has lost something like its sixth in eight games, albeit in overtime, vs. Columbus.

Craig Custance, in one of his TSN preseason blogs, declared that Columbus would be a playoff team this year. His projection is looking good. The matchup I’ve really wished for … is a Blackhawks vs. Blue Jackets 1st round pairing.

Why?

Well, by definition, ONE of these long playoff-starved cities would be in the 2nd round. It’d be HUGE for either city. Probably moreso for Chicago, being an “Original Six” market. But, Vancouver is right in the thick of #4/#5 matchup, too. I hope the Canucks finish 6th and have to face Calgary, at #3. I swear to God, one of the very, very best playoff series I ever, ever saw … was 2004’s Calgary vs. Vancouver. It went Seven Games and was decided in overtime of the seventh game. I’d never quite seen a series unfold exactly the way that one did. Calgary was up, 3-2, in the series, when Vancouver TOOK OVER Game Six, with a 4-0 lead. But they squandered it!! And the (#6) Flames forced overtime. The overtime stretched to three (3) periods before (#3)Vancouver won it, to extend the series back to Vancouver, for Game Seven. Calgary was up very late in the 3rd period. As fate would have it, the Canucks took a penalty while trying to score the equalizer. Not needing a goal, Calgary sat back and was happy to try for the empty-net to salt the series. With 15 seconds left in regulation, of Game Seven, the puck was behind the Vancouver net. The Canucks brought it up the ice and scored with 1.4 seconds left in the SERIES.

How wild is THAAAT? That’s how close Calgary came to winning the series. Don’t forget, the Flames also had a chance to clinch the series in Game Six, in overtime, in Calgary, but didn’t. And the Flames had not won a playoff series since they last won the Cup, in 1989. As you know, penalties carry over into overtime, so Calgary began the overtime on the Power Play. And about 59 seconds in, the Flames won it! On the Power Play.

I can’t imagine a wilder series or bigger roller coaster ride, for both cities and both clubs. The Canadian media ate it up, with two teams from Western Canada. As you know, the Flames then upset the Red Wings, in six games, with a 1-0 win in Game Six, to “seemingly” end Curtis Joseph’s career (with the lockout pending in 2005). In the Western Conference Finals, the Flames upset the San Jose Sharks, who haven’t been back to the CF since, but look to do so in these 2009 playoffs, with a DIFFERENT COACH. Last season, the Flames #7 were eliminated by the #2 seeded Sharks, 4-3. San Jose’s season ended in disappointment for Ron Wilson’s troops, halfway through the 4th overtime, in Game Six, in Dallas. The Stars owned a 3-0 series lead, but San Jose “wouldn’t go gently into that ‘goodnight.’” And had Brenden Morrow, or some member of the Dallas Stars, not ended that marathon game, it would have been a spectacular Game Seven. Remember all the talk about how it’d been so long (33 years) since any team came back from 3-0 to win a series?

Jason

March 18th, 2009
11:11 pm

Thanks Mike….I think some of us on the blogs here over the course of the season have witnessed a few occasions where questionable, or deliberate cheap shots have been taken on our guys. I see it happen to other teams and they typically waste no time sticking up for one another. I have seen some nice responses here too at times, and saw the cherping back and forth from the bench to Cooke last night, but…..

Whether Cooke’s hit on Bogosian was legit or not, like others here and elsewhere, I wondered why an immediate retaliation on him or the “next avalible”, as Darren Elliot refered to, Penguin wasn’t inacted? I have noticed Elliot say several times on broadcast this season to “look for someone on the Thrashers to answer that hit”. And then after making note of the dirty play in question on the broadcast, nothing usually happens after he says it, we saw it, and many Thrasher fans along with Elliot are quietly wondering why no sticking up for the teammate took place. I sat in 107 Monday night with four others watching Ovechkin take out his frustration with various “grey area” type runs and hits at the end of the 2nd and beginning of the 3rd. All five of us raised an eyebrow when no response was given by the team. The Ruutu hit on Kovy’s knee last season was another I would have expected a bigger response from.

So I am not trying to make a sweeping generalization suggesting the guys on the team are not watching each others backs, but I’ve seen a few similar cases this season alone where I question a hit or cheap shot myself. I then read the blogs the next day and find a lot of others felt the same way.

Sorry for being long-winded about the subject, but if you somewhat agree with my point, maybe you can carefully sneak that thought into a question for Anderson. I would like to know if there is anything to it? Does it boil down to the coach not encouraging retaliation? Is the team maybe a little too soft as a whole, or something else altogether?

That might be a good piece for you to consider researching and writing a story on, especially if it occurs again over the last twelve games. The story could center around what the team needs going into the draft, free agency, and next season to make the jump to being considered a playoff type roster.

Tim

March 18th, 2009
11:15 pm

Hi Brain,

Oops! I guess that would be a reverse-Freudian slip. I left upstate NY in 1984 when I joined the Army and I only go back to visit family. I would love to move back home to be near family. Unfortunately, the liberal taxation policies and pro-union laws (I actually grew up in a union household so shut it before you open it) killed the economies of nearly every state north of the Mason-Dixon Line long before this recession started … besides, I love it here. I actually leave my car unlocked at night.

Back to hockey – What I’ve seen out of the Pens in the Crosby era is an air of privilege. They get the benefit of calls so they take liberties. They feel protected and regal so they treat lesser teams like subjects… and get away with it. I feel like the Thrashers are closing the talent gap with Pens but I doubt they’ll ever feel protected… unless of course the third coming gets drafted by Atlanta and is subsequently anointed as hockey’s latest savior. If that player comes along I certainly hope he’s not a petulant, nad-hunting 5th grader.

PensFan

March 19th, 2009
12:28 am

I believe Malkin is more talented than Crosby. But Malkin has disappeared in the losing playoff series for the Pens two years in a row. He was a non factor against Ottawa when the Pens got beat badly. And against Detroit, any contribution from him could have helped. He was a total non factor until Game 6. Crosby, at least, played well in both series. Until Malkin leads in the playoffs, I do not think he will be taking over captaincy duties. Another thing is Malkin, at this point, prefers a lower profile. He is still learning the language too and is not as extroverted as Ovechkin.

mknobler

March 19th, 2009
1:00 am

Jason, you make an interesting point. The team has stuck up for each other a lot lately, though. Didn’t you see Eric Perrin go after Ovechkin (and almost slice his head off with his stick) immediately after the hit on Marty Reasoner? That’s just the latest example of many I can remember seeing in the past couple of weeks. The exceptions I’ve seen lately have been times when the Thrashers couldn’t afford penalties and had to play disciplined and keep themselves in the game rather than in the box. It’s not good to take penalties if you’re a defenseman and one of your team’s defensemen is already out for the rest of the game, for example.

nu

March 19th, 2009
1:05 am

How much DOES getting a franchise record broken and a season series swept by a score of 6–2 hurt anyway, Thrashers fans?
More than a punch to the sack? (With all the equipment hockey players wear in order to protect their equipment, I’m gonna say yeah.)

Maybe all this “whining and crying” Crosby does (we’ll ignore the fact that EVERY player in the league exchanges pleasantries with guys on the other team, and that the guy with the “C” is *supposed* to be talking to the zebras) is a sign of his true passion for the game. Y’know, like Ovechkin taking runs at people or hurling himself into the glass when the Caps score to make it 5-1. Or taunting the other bench. Y’know, like Kovy does.

But please, by all means, continue disliking Sid. Not only could he care less, the more vocal and pathetic you are about it, the more he’s gonna score against your team. (See Philly, Washington)
Oh, I’m sorry. That would actually require vocal Thrasher fans *not* disguised as empty seats at Phillips. (I know, I know, Waddell = antichrist and is singlehandedly destroying the team and fanbase in conjunction with the ownership. I’m sorry.)

But even sadder is whoever made that joke about “the passion of the hockey fans at Philips”. “FIRE WAD-DELL” doesn’t count.
And whoever made that remarkably funny comment about being able to draft a team like the Pens with that many top-5 draft picks? You know what the only team to have more top-TWO draft picks than the Pens is? I’ll give you a minute. Picks like Kovy and Kari and…Patrik Stefan. (’99 was a bad year.)
Now don’t you feel silly? (Sorry. Now you can go back to cursing DW.)

Oh, and this is Pittsburgh. http://pittsburghskyline.com/content/2008/10/23/pittsburgh-fall-2008/
But, yeah, keep thinking that the population decline means we’re some kind of rust-belt refugee wasteland without an economy. Makes y’all seem real smart. And courteous! (The cost of living’s a heck of a lot lower than ATL (and when was the last time Atlanta was named “most livable city”…twice?…Right.).
There’s a reason why people say “when you play Pittsburgh, you play the entire city”. (Like having all the Pens games on TV.) But I’m sure you know what that feels like with sports in Atlanta, right?

And not that you care, but according to our TV guys, Cooke was bringing his knees IN, not out — aka trying to *avoid* Bogosian. Was that Valabik that punched Talbot in the head and then tried to take on somebody, anybody, who wasn’t Godard, or was someone else involved as well? That was definitely honorable hockey player behavior.
Look, you may be hard-done by, but don’t try to act like you’re getting picked on or the Pens are getting privileges. Cooke’s already been suspended once this year. The league’s controlled by the Colin Campbell Wheel of Justice, and the punishment will NEVER fit the crime — whatever anybody perceives it is.
Can’t we all just despise H0ssa together?

Mark

March 19th, 2009
1:07 am

It’s easy…it’s time for someone in this league to simply attack Crosby or Malkin and end this “we are protected and can do anything we want” mentality. So what if a player goes on suspension or worse for the year. It’s easy. End it like it was ended in the old days.

Enough folks will get enough and in time, your pretty boys will be cryin’ and retirin’ just like Mario did. I remember when Mario thought he was protected in the 80’s and the Capitals sent him to the hospital with a concussion. He was doing the same swing and run crap Crosby is doing now. In the end, REAL canadian hockey will rear it’s head.

And I’ll tell all you Pen fans this… meet a team like the Rangers or the Sharks in the playoffs THIS YEAR…and watch your pretty boys leaving the ice like the republican army left Kuwait in ‘91.

nu

March 19th, 2009
1:44 am

“Mark”:
Are you ACTUALLY serious? That’s probably one of the most pathetic, disgusting pieces of of bullsh*t I’ve read in recent memory.
Aside from your delusions? OK, so how about somebody takes a REAL run at Kovy (’cause, yeah, the “vicious kneeing attempt” by Ruutu really did a number.). Or how about somebody disposes of Kari, for more than his usual half the season?
It’s only a suspension…..

Mario had a higher points-per-game average than ANYBODY, with all the crap that was thrown his way. And he still managed to make other teams look incredibly stupid on a nightly basis.
That Caps concussion thing, incidentally?:
http://peerlessprognosticator.blogspot.com/2008/03/origins-of-curse.html

Might wanna rethink that.

REAL Canadian hockey like Don Sanderson dying?………..

And I’ll tell YOU this, “Mark”….the Rangers? The *Rangers*?? Seriously? Have you WATCHED any hockey THIS YEAR? No shootouts in the playoffs. Avery. Been there. Done that. Sloppy seconds for the Pens.
And the Sharks? Well aside from their FEARED playoff prowess, to meet them, we’d have to get back to the Finals. So, okay. We’ll take that!

And I guess you can watch the Thrashers….in October…and much like the current Iraqi campaign, wonder how many more YEARS it’ll take before they ever truly free themselves from their quagmire.

Having declared ‘Mission accomplished’ to make the playoffs in 07…to get swept by the Rang….oh, NOW I understand!! Leaving the ice like the Thrashers did? Yeah, that doesn’t sound appealing.

GaVaHokie

March 19th, 2009
8:18 am

I recall a 50/50 chance that Crosby was almost a Duck… I wonder if he ever wishes that came to fruition. He’d have a Stanley Cup Ring already… he’d be living in Anaheim instead of Pittsburgh, and he could be dating Starlets.

Joshgekko

March 19th, 2009
8:29 am

Nu

While I agree that Pitt is a beautiful city (in the spring and summer anyway), it is apparent that its inhabitants use sports as a release from the agony that is daily life in one of the last remaining truly blue collar cities in this nation. Oh, and the new stadium couldn’t come soon enough! Mellon arena is in my opinion the second worst arena in the league (ahead of only the crap stains arena on long island).

P.S. What is up with the city center all but shutting down for the weekend?

chc4

March 19th, 2009
8:48 am

I wonder if L.A. would consider a Lehtonen-Kopitar trade this summer. They’ve been looking for a goalie for years and we need a #1 C desperately. Kopitar is signed long term. We could go with Pavs/Hedberg next year. That would immediately makes us better.

Hotrod

March 19th, 2009
9:18 am

Seems I recall the coach kept Cooke on the bench for most of the game.
His own coach knew it was a dirty hit.
So he sat him for:
A) His own protection
B) Obvious embarrasing dirty play

ranallo10 (in AT)

March 19th, 2009
9:31 am

chc4 — I don’t think that trade would ever be on the table this offseason…I don’t believe Kopitar is available (nor should he be).

chc4

March 19th, 2009
9:55 am

ranallo — he was on the block before this season. Rumors were flying about him going to Buffalo. Just a couple of months there were supposedly talks of a Kopitar-Spezza swap so it’s not totally out of the questions.

ranallo10 (in AT)

March 19th, 2009
10:03 am

I would say that they were merely rumors, not realistic trade scenarios. But no player is every out of the question, obviously (Gretzky being Evidence A, Luongo being Evidence B).

If we’re talking about trading for Kopitar, Los Angeles would demand more than just Lehtonen in my opinion (and rightfully so). He’s good, and unless Los Angeles gets the same level of quality in return, there’s no need for them to move him. If he’s locked up for a few years, what is the motivation behind trading him away?

I think Kopitar is not a realistic scenario, even if he is dangled to other GMs.

nu

March 19th, 2009
10:12 am

Josh – sorry, but I think it’s apparent that your psychology degree needs a little work – “the agony that is daily life in one of the last remaining truly blue collar cities in this nation”??

Really? Sorry, I think that you’re possibly confusing *Pittsburgh* with -Scranton-. (Wrong Penguins team, but it is nice to own them instead of knowing that your barely-affiliated championship farm team is better than you.)

Pittsburgh, with more Fortune 500 companies than almost any other city in the nation? Pittsburgh, where the main industries have been health care and more health care, education and more education, and technology (a little place called Carnegie Mellon University. I’m guessing you probably haven’t heard of it.)…for the past TWENTY YEARS?

Things tend to last in Pittsburgh, and we appreciate them. The blue-collar SPIRIT is what keeps the town -and- its athletes hard-working and supportive (Even of the Pirates. No Ovechkin. No Michael Vick. No Drama.). And those 17,132 fans who’ve been at Mellon Arena for the past 100 games, that’s how they appreciate the team they KNOW now won’t be leaving, ever; they appreciate the Art Ross and Hart Trophy and 2 Stanley Cup banners as much as they appreciate everything the city’s accomplished, and they even appreciate the old barn, because it’s uniquely the Penguins’, and we’re grateful they’ve done so much in the past forty.

I wonder what you would’ve thought of a place like the Boston Garden? Sorry, if this doesn’t make sense in a town where the main industries are carpet-bagging, sugar water, and repetitive news 24 hours a day and where people don’t care about the town? city? community? because they just moved there five minutes ago, like all their neighbors, I understand. “It’s shiny and new (and vacuous!), so it has to be better!)”

But at least y’all get to be warm in hockey season. And *really* warm in the summer!

P.S. — Downtown is where the office buildings are. People go to Station Square or across the river to the South Side for the weekend, or to one of the other bar/restaurant/club neighborhoods that are ten minutes away. They leave the lights on so people can enjoy the view until Monday.

Spud Webb

March 19th, 2009
10:21 am

GaVaHokie, there was NO way sid was going anywhere except Pittsburgh. Bettman staged that whole thing to save hockey in Pittsburgh. Mario was crying like a Crosby, uh I mean a women, the team was going to leave, then Preston they win the lotto and get Crosby. Coincidence, I think not. It’s funny to read pittsburgh fans talk about our team going to canada or how we don’t deserve a team down here, when you were lucky enough to keep yours up there? The Crosby miracle is the ONLY reason that team hasnt left. Good stuff Pitt fans, laughable. Good luck, keep up the crying and diving and dirty play. I LOVE watching Sid try his crap with Ovy and he gets pushed around. Can’t hold that guys jock and then backs down. Sissy?? I believe so. Good luck penguins fans. We will see you next year.

nu

March 19th, 2009
10:43 am

Sid actually likes Pittsburgh. He’s from Nova Scotia.
If you want to know how great Anaheim is, ask Ryan Whitney. Chris Kunitz and his Cup ring seem to be having a good time with the Pens.

I love how people uh, ‘think’, that the Crosby lottery was rigged…because every team had a representative watching the drawing so EVERY team was in on it? Okay.

Yes, having Sid probably saved the team. Maybe the hockey gods smile on some teams when they finish playing with them.

But the team — with Crosby, with Malkin, with everyone — was still going to leave as of March 2007. The new arena is the ONLY reason they stayed. (It was also the only reason they were going to pretend to leave, to finally stop being screwed by the local government.) The salary cap (y’know, the thing that keeps Atlanta in existence?) helps a lot, too.

And for whatever crap you think *whoever* favors Pittsburgh with, Buffalo has no Crosby, no Stanley Cups, an even smaller population, and actually had their ownership taken over by the league around 5 years ago — and they still have their hockey team.

Any other brilliant insights, Spud? I LOVE watching the same jokes repeat themselves over and over…

Play Moose more often. We miss him.

chc4

March 19th, 2009
10:58 am

They probably would want more than Kari but not a ton more. It would at least be worth exploring. We need a 6′4″ 220lb center in the worst way. He is signed to a long term deal at less than $7mm per year.

Alan

March 19th, 2009
11:21 am

nu, don’t you have something better to do? I don’t come to your local sports blogs and sully them up. It would be appreciated if you wouldn’t come to our house and engage in trashing. It gives us a bad impression of the fanbase.

Really, these other guys here have their opinions. Coming here isn’t going to change their minds — especially the minds of the folks here who left Pittsburgh to come to Atlanta. You would have more success arguing with a brick wall, and rightfully so, because these folks have their minds made up.

Pittsburgh might be great to you and other locals, and that’s good for you and those others. Coming here to dump copious quantities of salt in the wounds of a wasted season and horrible showing against a strong Penguins team isn’t very classy.

Congratulations to Malkin scoring his 100th point of the year. Now, please, if you can’t be respectful in our house — no matter how much trash we’re talking — you are quite free to leave. You’re not changing any hearts or minds with the vitriol you and others have spoken on our blogs.

Thank you.