Ouch update

Chris Thorburn’s face showed he had been in a fight the night before. But not all the blows he took Friday night came from Montreal. I asked him about the Ron Hainsey slap shot that hit him. Even a day later, there was still a red mark on Thorburn’s back.

Eric Perrin was able to practice Saturday after sitting out half of Friday’s game with a stinger. After practice, he spoke briefly with assistant general manager Larry Simmons. The subject: Could Perrin play Sunday, or did the Thrashers need to call up a forward to fill his spot in the lineup? The answer: Perrin will play against Calgary.

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kracker

March 7th, 2009
7:14 pm

I saw Thors go down. I’m glad he didn’t take something to the face, the fists in the fight was enough. I hope Perrin does enough to remain here or get a spot on another team next season. For my part, even tho it’s not supposed to be done in the paper, I hold no ill will toward Eric for lobbying for more playing time. Looks like JA and IK are mostly OK with him, too, although we will see what happens after the road trip and some fwds are called up.

Dwayne Johnson

March 7th, 2009
7:43 pm

yeah Thor got hit pretty good a few times, so did Zach, but they never went down, never quit. i liked listeneing to Clement last nite, but that other guy kinda sucked. thank God i didn’t have to listen to french last night.

Dwayne Johnson

March 7th, 2009
7:54 pm

how was the crowd last nite? many protesters? intresting to see how good KL can be when the team plays good D and gives him a chance to see the puck. only faced 25 shots, some of that could be due to the fact that the habs look out of whack, kinda like the Thrashers do alot of the time, refs were bias, that was obvious.

Hockeyfan

March 7th, 2009
8:03 pm

Protesters? What protesters? A couple of malcontents that are starving for attention didnt have the cajones to do anything other than whine to another malcontent named Jeff Schultz

muttonsourdough

March 7th, 2009
8:10 pm

I’m kinda surprised Bogey could get his helmet on today. Props for the kid’s grit and guts for not backing down and I love seeing that kinda fire in a team, but he took the worst of that fight.

Dwayne Johnson

March 7th, 2009
8:18 pm

Hockeyfan, maybe thats the way everyone should look at the rest of the season: support the players and to hell with DW and the ASG. the only problem is you have to buy the tickets to support the team. i was wondering?, how do all those people get tickets to the Thrashers games, then just line the streets and try to sell them? If they would go in, we might get 15,000 a game.

mknobler

March 7th, 2009
8:55 pm

I saw one fan with a bag on his head. He started the night in Section 319 and was in the lower bowl by the end of the game. I didn’t write about it because it was, well, one fan.

mknobler

March 7th, 2009
8:57 pm

Bogosian needs to: A) Figure out a way to keep his helmet and visor on, or B) Figure out a way to knock the other guy’s helmet and visor off. As it was, he was at a huge disadvantage against Ryan O’Byrne.

Wayne

March 7th, 2009
11:13 pm

FYI: Dan Snyder’s Ontario town came in third in the Hockeyville, Canada voting.

muttonsourdough

March 7th, 2009
11:43 pm

I just dont wanna see Bogey become the next Buchberger for Atlanta fighting-wise. Ill never forget Probert dismantling Bucky and Bucky unable to do anything but lean away and hope he didnt get rocked again.

I was unable to watch the game (though I listened to the online radio feed as per usual) and was, therefore, unable to tell if anything was said to OB by Boults, hell even Valabik (granted, not the fighter that Boults is but is better suited size-wise for OB than Bogey) or if it was Bogey’s play/chirping that caused OB to get in his face to begin with.

mknobler

March 7th, 2009
11:44 pm

As RStroz said on the previous blog, it would be great to have someone who was there post a description of what happened at the town hall meeting before Friday’s game.

Midfield

March 8th, 2009
12:46 am

On a Youtube video it looked like it started with the hit by Slater (I think); then there was a retaliation, and everybody skated toward the boards in the center of the ice, where Slater was. O’Byrne just happened to lock in Bogosian, and the kid began swinging, and he never quit, although size-wise he looked much smaller than O’Bryrne. Now I want to see Enstrom knock down Brashier in DC.

ranallo10 (in AT)

March 8th, 2009
5:34 am

O’Byrne was facewashing Bogosian the whole time, and kept punching him (glove on) in the jaw while locked up. Eventually Bogosian got pissed and dropped his gloves (first, by the way). He then proceeded in getting his ass handed to him.

Thorburn did well, but got the worst of it too. His last punch of the fight was a nice one, but possibly late (from the angle I saw the referees could’ve been in there to break them up and THEN he threw the punch). Stewart stuck his tongue out at Thorburn afterward…OUCH.

willi plett

March 8th, 2009
7:26 am

Thorbun gave as good as he got. The last shot Thor landed stunned Stewart, whether or not Stewart smiled or not. Thor shows up and you can’t always ask for anything more, especially in regards to our teams having a history of not engaging, or simply being pushed around with little or no answer.

Bogosian doesn’t back down either and that’s a quality you look for. Boulton can’t be the only guy to go out and take care of business, people act as if Bogosian is a shrinking violet, he isn’t. Albeit he has lost to one of the toughest fighters over the past 10 years in Brashear and now has lost to a bigger fighter in O’Byrne. Bogosian stood through when a lot of fighters would have hit the deck, taking the easy road out, lets give this kid some credit, he isn’t the next Bob Probert, but he isn’t exactly Brad Larsen , either. I’d rather have our players at least try to answer the intensity, rather than stand there with your hands down while someone pucnhes you like Larsen used to do, at least Bogosian throws punches back, he won’t be pushed around. This team isn’t ’soft’ by any means.

Jimbo

March 8th, 2009
9:30 am

Bogosian is only going to get bigger and smarter and be a real force to be reckoned with. For cripes sakes, he took on Brashear the first week of the season. I am one who has been so frustrated by this season and DW’s constant “we’re so close” baloney that I’ve almost thrown in the towel on the franchise. Now the little season ending glimmer may bring me back. BUT, only if JA comes up with a “system” that fits for the NHL. The seat of the pants stuff might fit in the AHL, but it sure doesn’t fit in the NHL. Rehab Espo. Get lucky with Tavares. Who knows?

Hockeyfan

March 8th, 2009
1:32 pm

Knobler,

One fan that probably needed to wear a bag if you know what I mean

jltmilaftw

March 8th, 2009
3:10 pm

I am listening to the Calary Flames radio announcers (online at nhl.com) and they were saying that there is no buzz whatsoever about the Thrashers. They complimented the people that were there but I wonder seriously how much longer we’ll have a team in Atlanta. We lost the Knight to Canada. Might we lose another to say Winnipeg?

Thrashy Thrashy

March 8th, 2009
4:35 pm

Well, those announcers will leave with a 5-2 loss.

What the hell has gotten into this team? 6-3-1 in the last ten.

Alan

March 8th, 2009
4:43 pm

but I wonder seriously how much longer we’ll have a team in Atlanta

Atlanta isn’t moving, no matter how many Canadians wish it. You know why there’s “no buzz?” Well, have you watched any games this year? Seen how dismal they look? The fans are angry, hence the protests. The fans are unhappy with the ticket prices, the condition of the arena, the personnel of the team.

You shouldn’t seriously wonder about things that aren’t going to happen. Atlanta moving is one of those “not happening” things.

Wayne

March 8th, 2009
8:16 pm

“Atlanta isn’t moving, no matter how many Canadians wish it.”

“You shouldn’t seriously wonder about things that aren’t going to happen. Atlanta moving is one of those “not happening” things.”

Hey Alan, that’s also what people in Seattle thought about the Sonics; guess where they are now?

Jason

March 8th, 2009
9:23 pm

The Sonics moved because their owner wanted the city to pay for a new arena to replace Key Arena and the city and taxpayers gambled, balked, and lost the team. That’s not an issue here. Phillips Arena, even with our tight-a$$ owners, is one of the better facilities in the league.

And to the other person that mentioned the Knights didn’t make it here and moved to Quebec City, they did not leave for lack of fan support or success. They left because the NHL was getting close to awarding an expansion franchise(our Thrashers) to Ted Turner. He, in turn, was about to blow up the old Omni arena in ‘97 to make way for Phillips Arena in its place. The owner of the Knights tried to convince Turner to allow the team to stay in the Omni or buy the team much cheaper than an NHL franchise. Turner wasn’t interested, and their was going to be no place in the metro area for the Knights to play when the Omni was destroyed. The Gwinnett Arena wasn’t around then, and no other facility was anywhere close to being equiped for ice hockey. For a while, the owner of the Knights, Richard Adler I believe, was trying to get an arena built elsewhere around the city for his team and other events. The most seriously talked about location was the old Eastern Airlines headquarters at the Cobb Cloverleaf, where the new Cobb Energy Center is now off I75. But things never worked out for various reasons, as one said Turner was rumored to not want any competition in this market for the soon to be named Thrashers. So the owner of the Knights was given no other choice in the end but to move the franchise.

Jason

March 8th, 2009
10:00 pm

Mike-Here is a nice recap of the STH meeting Friday night by the Falconer in case you missed it.

http://www.birdwatchersanonymous.com/

mknobler

March 8th, 2009
10:26 pm

Jason, thanks for the link. I looked at his site before he posted the recap. That’s an interesting summary.

One thing I noticed: The stuff about the AJC is not entirely correct. We will have an interview with one of the owners coming out soon. There were a couple of very interesting answers to my questions.

Wayne

March 8th, 2009
11:00 pm

My point was that when the Sonics were sold to Clay Bennett, he said all the right things about keeping the team in Seattle, but had absolutely no interest in keeping the team in Seattle, instead moving the team to the smaller OKC.

Jason

March 8th, 2009
11:41 pm

Wayne-With that being the Sonics owner’s perceived desire, it makes me wonder about what the NBA thought longterm about the Seattle market. I’m not sure how much influence one way or the other David Stern had on the Sonics moving if that’s the case with Bennett. Maybe he agreed with Bennett that more dollars could be made elsewhere. OKC is a much smaller market, but they are the only big boy show around. I was still somewhat suprised in the end to see them moved so quickly, from the time the public and media knew about it at least. I really hope if the same case holds true about the ASG’s longterm plans for the Thrashers, Bettman will do everything possible to find a new buyer that agrees with keeping the team here longterm. IMO, there is a lot of money to be made in this market. A sports franchise like the Thrashers has to do the obvious to acheive it here….win, and win big(playoff series at least).

Mike-We would love to hear your thoughts on the responses of Waddell to the STHs in comparison to what you and him speak about regarding similar topics(that isn’t off the record of course). Do you see the NHL or NBA doing anything different to push this fan-insulting lawsuit towards a quicker end? I say that based on whomever loses this latest court battle is sure to appeal and drag it out another year at least.

Alan

March 9th, 2009
5:21 am

Wayne – Were the Sonics tied to the arena naming rights? Have the Thrashers been sold to another owner? I hear what you’re saying, but you and some of the others are jumping to conclusions. There’s nothing out there at all right now to support the idea of the Thrashers moving. It’s just all talk in order to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt among the fanbase. Yes, there’s always that possibility …but not until 2019. If you’re going to worry, start worrying then. :)

GaVaHokie

March 9th, 2009
8:08 am

Seattle’s naming rights were only worth $1 million a year and expired next season… Phillips pays $9 million a year and doesn’t expire until 2019.

http://www.espn.go.com/sportsbusiness/s/stadiumnames.html

Bob

March 9th, 2009
8:27 am

*I saw one fan with a bag on his head. He started the night in Section 319 and was in the lower bowl by the end of the game. I didn’t write about it because it was, well, one fan.*

One fan? That was it? Pitiful, who put that “protest” together?

Alan

March 9th, 2009
9:39 am

One fan? That was it?

Stroz and I were there. With bags. And signs. And we saw others, too.

It wasn’t as many as I would have liked to see, and I wouldn’t call the protest a “success” by any stretch of the imagination, but we certainly didn’t chicken out.

Bob

March 9th, 2009
11:40 am

good. cause nobody likes chickens. (bawk)

Sara

March 9th, 2009
12:13 pm

The thing that surprised me the most about the THM was that apparently no one thought to ask about the goaltending situation. Between Kari’s name coming up in rumors all over the place to Waddell saying something on Deadline Day about something happening over the summer, to Pavelec being pissy about getting sent down last year (so imagine his reaction if he gets dumped in Chicago again next season)…seems like that would have been an obvious question to toss out there. I’m certainly curious as to what they intend to do about it. Cause methinks three’s a crowd and I’d like to see Kari and Ondrej go head to head next season for that starting job. Though I hate to lose Moose (nor is Kari in any way equipped to mentor young Pavs) – any chance they can convince him to retire and just become our goalie coach?

GaVaHokie

March 9th, 2009
12:13 pm

Thrashers just recalled Anssi Salmela… hopefully we see him play tomorrow night.

Knobler… does this mean the team only has 2 call-ups remaining for the rest of the year?

This was just posted on the Wolves site, also on Youtube… Player Profile video for Arturs Kulda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1dS77Bn5Z4

Russian

March 9th, 2009
12:26 pm

*to Sara*
I was thinking same thing about our Goalies situation. What I can see now it is three scenarious:
1. Kari get contract with Atlanta for 3-4 years and Moose is back up
2. Kari will not get contract with Atlanta. Pavs is number one and Moose is back up
3. Kari is gone and Atlanta get real good goalie from UFA. UFA goalie is number one and Pavs is back up. Moose is going to waiver.

Thrashers27

March 9th, 2009
3:11 pm

I’d like to see Moose retire as a player to become Goalie coach and have Kari and Pavs duke it out for the starting job.

diego from lilburn

March 9th, 2009
3:50 pm

Salmela was at practice today in Duluth.

MB

March 9th, 2009
5:56 pm

Carbonneau is out and Gainey is in as coach of the Habs. Apparently that shutout at Philips wasn’t very well received.

stendecs mother

March 9th, 2009
6:13 pm

Kari stinks, my son is right. Opie backs up good goalie, Moose follows Kari to la-la land.

GaVaHokie

March 10th, 2009
7:22 am

Knobs… good piece on Salmela. I’m glad he likes the atmosphere here. Can’t imagine how it’s more friendly than a Bobby Holik locker room in NJ. ;)

Turd Ferguson

March 10th, 2009
9:56 am

Call now to get “the steal of the game”… Phone lines are open 24 hours (it’s just that bad) lol

MB

March 10th, 2009
4:07 pm

So D-Wadd snidely questioned how many more points Kovy would have if he was playing alongside Marc Savard at the STH townhall meeting, apparently as a smart alec response to a question about getting a top center to play alongside him. Now I’ll be the first to admit that math isn’t my strong suit, but I tried to figure it out anyway.

Through the first 44 games (pre-Peverly and pre-captaincy), Ilya had 16 G and 27 pts. total, averaging out to a goal every 2.75 games and a point every 1.3 games.

Since then, he has 20 G and 33 pts. in 22 games, averaging a goal every 1.1 games and a point every two periods. An unbelievable pace, no doubt, but if kept up for a full season, that would be 74 goals and 164 points. Obviously, that’s a little outside the realm of probability, but it gives you an idea of how hot he’s been.

Combining those into 66 game stats, he currently has 36 G and 76 pts., averaging a goal every 1.83 games and a point every .87 games, which puts him on pace for 44 G and 92 pts.

In 2005-06, playing alongside Marc Savard for 78 games (can’t recall if they always played on the same line), he had 52 G and 98 pts., which is a goal every 1.5 games and a point every .8 games. Also keep in mind that Savard had 28 G and 97 pts. himself that season.

Now, just to go way overboard stat-wise, consider this: in the first 10 games, Kovy had 3 G; he added 4 G in the second ten, 4 more in the third ten, and only 2 in the fourth. Between the fortieth and fiftieth games, he tallied 8 goals, followed by 9 more in games 50 to 60.

Had he had quality linemates for the full season, I’d have to think he’d have added 10 more goals in those first 44 games and be running neck-and-neck with AO for the Rocket Richard trophy, and in all likelihood cresting the century mark in points.

So Don, yeah, I think it would have made a difference, and who knows…we might have even won a few games along the way.

Brendan

March 10th, 2009
4:34 pm

But MB, that would upset the apple cart! (Sarcasm detector going off wildly.) We can’t have Tier I guys mucking up our lottery draft finishes, can we?? We paid for a lower echelon season, and BY GOD! We’re gonna get one!!!

But, shhhh. Be verrrwee, verrwee quiet. And don’t utter the words, “rebuilding.” The official company line is … “We’re close, real close” to putting together some good streaks. And be sure to talk about the playoffs, as a viable option.

And “ixnay” on the “alk-tay” about how the organization expects attendance to pick up after the Fall football season concludes. Peeking out the window … hmmn. Feels like Summer.

A-ha!! The reason Thrasher fans aren’t at Philips Arena is this EARLY SUMMER-like weather! Ya know, I think I might just make a career of “spin talk.” Putting on my Bruce Levenson mask, “I’ll tell you, Mike Knobler, I think this organization KNOWS how to sign FREE AGENTS.” And, to amplify, “Why tear it down?, when we’re so close.”

Well, I do see that we’re in range of catching Colorado, Phoenix, and Ottawa, to ascend to 25th place in the National Hockey League. That would, technically, be an improvement from last year’s 28th place finish.

And guess what ELSE it would be? (Say it with me!!) “Incremental progress.” Progress that, might I add, included a waiver claim acquisition of Rich Peverley.

Remember the rule: Even an IDIOT BLOGGER, via waiver claims and lottery draft finishes, could achieve “incremental progress.” If Atlanta regresses to 29th place, the GM would have failed to even achieve THAT MUCH. In case you’re curious, Atlanta leads Tampa Bay, by one-point, with 16 games left to play.

Alan

March 10th, 2009
5:09 pm

And don’t utter the words, “rebuilding.” The official company line is …

Que?!

http://thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1463941

“It’s pretty crazy right now,” O’Dell said following Wolves practice at Sudbury Community Arena on Wednesday. “I got to practice and coach told me there was someone on the phone for me. I didn’t really know what was going on and it was an Atlanta scout telling me I got traded to Atlanta.”

“I think there might be a better chance to get a spot there,” O’Dell said. “The scout was telling me they want to rebuild and they are going young right now, so that’s good for me. If I keep working hard and going well, there might be a spot for me there in the next few years.”

Hmm. Not so official, I gather.

MB

March 10th, 2009
7:24 pm

By the way, Mike, I get the following message in place of the title of your latest blog almost every time I access the Sports page online:

an error occurred while processing this directive

Any idea why?

stendec

March 10th, 2009
10:24 pm

Am I imagining things? Another Thrasher road victory? Another shutout by Kari Lehtonen? A goal in the final second NOT scored against Atlanta? I like it! WOW! Where the Hell have THESE guys been all season?

Brendan

March 10th, 2009
10:45 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen, ZACH BOGOSIAN got the Game Winning Goal (GWG). How ’bout thissss as things to come?

Kovalchuk was on the ice for all three goals. I think that makes him a +3, but I didn’t check it. Kari Lethonen gets his 14th career shutout, and second shutout in three games. Rich Peverley got the empty-netter, while the Aves D all focused on Kovalchuk. Did Todd White have the other goal?

Wow, I think the wheels have fallen off in Colorado. The Aves are the 15th place team in the Western Conference. Colorado might just finish in the lottery draft this summer. I remember when that team was in six of seven (6/7) Western Conference Finals, winning two Stanley Cups. Truly, they were a dominant and imposing team.

In case you’re curious, Colorado lost the ‘97, ‘99, ‘00, and ‘02 Western Conference Finals. They won the West in ‘96 and ‘01, over Detroit and St. Louis. Hey, wonder if Colorado will get back to the playoffs and/or win a playoff series before Atlanta does?

mknobler

March 11th, 2009
3:07 am

Brendan, Kovy was plus-two, as one of the three goals came on a power play.

GaVaHokie, Salmela’s call-up leaves the Thrashers with three, unless they have an injury requiring an emergency call–up.