11:41 am February 27, 2009, by mknobler
Jim Slater is back officially on the roster and likely to play Saturday night at Philips Arena.
February 27th, 200912:13 pm
Playoffs here we come!
February 27th, 200912:14 pm
With last night’s loss, Bob, I do believe we have now been mathematically eliminated. Before yesterdays game, Atlanta would have had to go 20-0-1 to get to 90pts.
And here I was hoping we would be buyers!
February 27th, 200912:29 pm
Now that’s some in-depth blogging right there
Makes me wonder who’s gonna get scratched now that Slater is back.
ranallo10 (in AT)
February 27th, 200912:51 pm
Jared: He mentioned yesterday that Christensen would possibly be scratched.
February 27th, 200912:55 pm
I like Slater’s work ethic, but there comes a point when you are cognizant that he is a typical mistake made by this organization. Slater was a FIRST rd draft pick..that ends up barely being a 4th liner. In all fairness he has had some bad luck the last couple of seasons..but it’s still a roster spot that could be taken by a much better player. I guess the Greek God line is back ? My guess is that Perrin is the odd man out.
Give Knobler a break, we are lucky for any coverage we get. It could always be worse…good ol’ Jeff Schultz could crap another blog for all of us to smell.
February 27th, 20091:01 pm
Let’s hope Slater is gone March 4,he is and has been nothing since he has been here,just someone we need to get something for… And think…
He was a FIRST round draft pick !
February 27th, 20091:13 pm
i believe my prediction of a 100 point season for Kovy will not happen, but 40 goals is very realistic. i’m not much for looking up stats, but what are Kovy’s since they made him Capt. and how would that project for a full season?
February 27th, 20091:36 pm
Look at the draft class from Slater’s year (2002) and you’ll notice an obvious trend…it was a generally weak draft class.
He was the last pick of the first round…the only noteable forwards drafted after him would be:
Stoll, Stajan, Hudler (2nd round)
G. Campbell, Lombardi, Filppula (3rd)
Talbot, Prucha (8th)
Edmonton, Phoenix, Dallas and San Jose all missed on their first round picks (selected player hasn’t played an NHL game yet). Taticek (9th pick, FL) and Nystrom (10th pick, Calgary) have played 49 games in the NHL, combined.
Slater’s “inability” at the NHL level isn’t any indicator of bad development or poor drafting, he’s merely a product of a weak draft class. He’s a fine fourth line center, and could play a third line shut down role. He’s a quick skater, defensively responsible, and can win faceoffs at a fair clip. All of those are good assets for a shut down center or PK specialist…which is all he’s paid to do. He’s not making money hand over fist and is still young, so why complain?
diego from lilburn
February 27th, 20092:02 pm
here are a few stats I just put together. Assuming I added this stuff right and put it into the spreadsheet correctly….
If Kovalchuk played an entire season like he has since he we named captain, that would amount to 69 goals and 30 assists for 99 total points.
I got these numbers of their schedule and Ilya’s stats of his page on the Thrashers site. Calculations based on…
Made captain on 1/11
19 games since that time
avg goals per game = .842
avg assts per game = .368
82 games per season (assuming I counted right)
Total = 99 points
February 27th, 20092:32 pm
I hope Perrin will sit or trade for tomorrow. Slater is fine on 4-th line. He is a 4-th line center and he is doing his job fine.
February 27th, 20092:38 pm
it’s not complaining when you say Slater’s roster spot could be better used. That’s an honest and valid opinion.
The differing opinion is also typical, it’s an apologetic opinion. Last time I checked the Thrashers aren’t exactly playoff bound with or without Jim Slater. My point is that his ’spot’ could be better used, how is that not plausible? No offense Ranallo, but since you bring up a weak draft, why not trade that pick of Slater. That would have been the smart thing to do. One can go on and on trying to go over the “what if’s” in a draft , however. I agree it was a weak draft, but that doesn’t mean we are forced to keep Slater or even pick him to begin with. There was / are plenty of better scenarios IMO regarding Slater.
Like I said..I like Slater’s hard work, but you are kidding yourself if you think there aren’t plenty of better players we could insert in his place. I don’t see Slater making any third line on any team that isn’t the Thrashers or other cellar dwellers, and like I said.. he barely makes our 4th line. Slater’s “inability” is an example of this organization’s mindset. Hang on to players like Slater when better options are available..etc etc.
February 27th, 20093:07 pm
I don’t think its really about Slater personally, he is what he is on the ice. It just pains me personally that it’s a “headline” when Slater is back in the lineup. Slater is servicable, but yawn, slater is back in the lineup!!!!!!!!!
February 27th, 20093:08 pm
Jim Slater is back officially on the roster……
Just in time to join EC and Perrin to be traded for a half eaten sandwich.
Bag of Pucks
February 27th, 20093:21 pm
Oh no, I just know I’m going to end up working for the ASG.
February 27th, 20093:41 pm
These are the 29th and 30th overall selections, for every year, from 2008 to 2000. Before we begin, I’m not taking ANY sides here. I’m presenting data, factual data, which any side can use to support their many and various positions. Also, I’d like to point out that Jonathan Cheechoo was a 2nd round, 29th overall pick, in 1998, Ben Clymer was a 2nd round pick in 1997, at #27 overall. Matt Cullen was taken 35th overall in 1996, Georges Laraque was taken 31st overall, in 1995. Shean Donovan was selected 28th overall, in 1993.
Okay, here now the list:
2000: (29) Niklas Kronwall, D, Detroit, (30) Jeff Taffe, C, St. Louis. (Nick Schultz, D, Minnesota, #33)
2001: (29) Adam Munro, G, Chicago, (30) Dave Steckel, C, Los Angeles. (Derek Roy, C, Buffalo, #32)
2002: (29) Hannu Toivonen, G, Boston, (30) Jim Slater, C, Atlanta. (Jarret Stoll, C, #36, Edmonton)
2003: (29) Patrick Eaves, RW, Ottawa, (30) Shawn Belle, C, St. Louis.
2004: (29) Mike Green, D, Washington, (30) Andy Rogers, D, Calgary.
2005: (29) Steve Downie, RW, Philadelphia, (30) Vladimir Mihalik, D, Tampa Bay.
2006: (29) Chris Summers, D, Phoenix, (30) Matthew Corrente, D, New Jersey
2007: (29) James O’Brien, C, Ottawa, (30) Nick Ross, D, Phoenix
2008: (29) Daultan Leveille, C, Atlanta, (30) Thomas McCollum, G, Detroit.
February 27th, 20094:17 pm
Please translate the following article:
Would you please translate the following article:
or at least let us know what the Kaptain had to say. Especially if he calls Crosby “cindy”….oh man, how I would love that.
February 27th, 20094:19 pm
It’s not like we’re over paying Slater… he is what he is… Slater playing 4th line minutes is still better than 80% of his draft class.
Brendan… great list.
February 27th, 20094:21 pm
Okay… and now what I really came here to post.
Latest rumor mill from Scott Cullen with TSN, for all those who don’t trust Eklund.
Thrashers interested in Pascal Leclaire (G) from Columbus.
Thrashers still listed for Lehtonen to Philly for Van Riemsdyk.
I’m fine with both options!!
February 27th, 20094:44 pm
February 27th, 20094:56 pm
Tony C, the gist is that he thinks that Crosby is overated as a “local” star as he put it, and Ovetchkin is a much better player. He also said that he would not want to leave Atlanta.
February 27th, 20095:22 pm
One more time. It works
Event of the day. HOCKEY. NHL
MEETING FOR YOU
Ilya Kovalchuk was recognized as the third star of the match against «Washington». After the game captain «Atlanta» talked to the correspondent of «Soviet sport», telling him of the newborn son of Philip, and explaining why Alexander the Great better than Kid Sid.
The main hero of the match began, Alexander Semin, of which the so-flattering answer coach «Washington». Forward scored 3 (1 +2) points and was third star of the day in the entire league.
The first goal Semin get beautiful. Fedorov gave him a pass on the course, and Alexander overtake the defender «Atlanta», as if standing. When Semin showed on the scoreboard, the people built him ovation.
In another episode guest player hit Ovechkin stick and broke it. Sasha showed fragments of the judge: look what happens! The arbitrator did not give the removal.
After a minute another player «Atlanta» hit in the face. The judge once again silent. Alexander brought, and began to push with Reasoner. As a result of this arbitrator issued two minutes … only to Alexander the Great. You seen him rage!
The most interesting thing is that most realized Kovalchuk. In general, Ilia played great. But the opinion of your correspondent – Kovalchuk did not have enough classrooms partners – Peverley, then to White. Do not his level of players.
«Eight children – THIS IS Bust»
- Ilya, recently «Atlanta» plays great. and you added – scored 11 goals in last 9 games. What it involves? In order that you made the captain of the team or that your son?
- Just go play. I have, and before that a lot of goal moments. But not score. Now puck goes into the goal. But I need to play more aggressive, more likely to drop out.
- Why did you have with my wife Nicole son named Philip? The first association in Russia – Philipp Kirkorov.
- One thousand per cent, it is not associated with Kirkorov! Simply, we love this name. International version. Unknown where the son goes to school – in Russia or in America. In addition, there is a holy Philip. Consider this in honor of him.
- I heard that the two babies you do not want to stop. Here is the famous hockey policemen has eight children. When someone will be able to overtake him?
- I am not so much fought for NHL to make eight children. They are the flowers of life, without question. But children need to be addressed, to pay them much attention. So far, here are the two. It is necessary to give Nicole a little bit rest, to get pleasure out of life.
- I remember during the World Cup 1994 soccer player Bebeto, scored Dutch goal, made a move that swings cot. He got the third child was born. And you do not like to mention the birth of Philip to some extravagant way?
- We are not football players. There is, 1:0 is everything. And in hockey a lot of heads. If I start on the ice cot swing, they do not understand correctly.
I’m just glad that I came heir. Most importantly, that guy grew up happy and healthy.
- You were present at birth?
- Yes, for the first time in their lives. Look Karolina was born in New York for a week before the period. Then I played in Russia for «Khimik» and not enough time for delivery. This is a unique event. Happy minute in my life!
When Nicole gave birth, I am terribly nervous. Generally a great respect for the cause of women who give birth to two or more children. It is at least a year and a half is not quite a comfortable lifestyle.
«Only weak People talk too much»
- Recently «Washington» playing with «Pittsburgh». Alexander Ovechkin showed to Crosby that he should be less talk. There he learned from you? I remember when you scored a goal, then showed glove to Sid, and this move has become famous in Atlanta.
- This is the emotion. Ovechkin did everything correctly. We need to play hockey. On the ice show, what are you capable of. A lot of talk weaknesses. Ovechkin all proven – he scored a goal and «Washington» defeats. He had every right to his gesture.
- Crosby said that Ovechkin – dirty player …
- Then do not need anyone to play hockey! After all the rules after the lockout in the NHL has changed greatly. Suppose that Crosby looks like the league played before. Style Ovechkin – emotional hockey net. Therefore, it is the best NHL player.
- But the league in the promotion focuses on Crosby.
- He was a local. You need something a player who will cover NHL. Russian could not face the North American league! But Ovechkin on all indicators in order stronger Crosby. I do not open America, many are talking about that. Crosby – a magnificent player. But Ovechkina it is still very far away.
If I gained the players in our virtual team, be sure to take a Sasha. We are friends. We have a similar character, a lot of common interests. I like Ovechkin not only as a hockey player. He is close in spirit.
- Now ready for the world championship in Switzerland? You from the team called?
- Perhaps Viacheslav Bykov still hoped that the «Atlanta» will be released in the play-offs. Therefore, while no one called – smiled Kovalchuk. – But if we do not get to the Stanley Cup and I am healthy … It is always said, that arrive in the team will be pleased.
- Who will remain with his wife?
- And we have a nanny. And yet another visit – my mom wants to assist in the care of Philip. Carolina for three years, it is easier.
- You used to be in Switzerland?
- Yes, several times. To collect from Yurzinova before the World Cup-2004. Another summer came. Beautiful country. Delicious cheese, good wine.
- General Manager «Atlanta» Don Woddell gave a guarantee that you will not be shared. You believe him? Quietly sleep at night?
- I always sleep calmly. A exchanges – this is business. Will that be. But leave «Atlanta» I would not like. I want to stay here.
- And if you wake up tomorrow and know that you exchanged at «Washington», it will be good or bad dream?
- This is a provocative dream. I am satisfied with everything in «Atlanta». I play here on the first day of his career. I hope that we will be a solid strong team. City of excellent, good fans. We are obliged to play much better.
- Who will be this year «Hart Trophy» as league most valuable player?
- Most likely, Ovechkin. If «Washington» and will continue to argue for the first-second place in the conference. My voice, it is exactly.
February 27th, 20096:05 pm
RUSSIAN: Thanks man!!! You’re the best!
I really like what I’m hearing and seeing from Kovalchuk lately, the “C” may have seemed gimmicky to some, but I think we’re going to all be pleased with that move-and sooner than later.
Although I would’ve loved to see #17 do the rock-a-bye a’la Bebeto-#17’s right, the frostbacks wouldn’t have gotten it and thought it too over the top.
Anybody going to tomorrow’s game?
February 27th, 20096:15 pm
I’ll be there.
February 27th, 20096:35 pm
KNOBES: got a spare pass? I’ll take photos for the blog if you need to justify it.
Otherwise I reckon I’ll just get a ticket from one of the banditos.
February 27th, 20096:47 pm
I’m told there will be a bunch of Hurricanes fans in attendance, returning the favor from the Thrashers’ last game at Raleigh. But I’m sure you can find a ticket.
February 27th, 20096:49 pm
By the way, guess who has been playing center on the No. 1 line for Columbus? Yes, that’s former Thrashers player Jason Williams alongside Rick Nash.
February 27th, 20097:28 pm
“but you are kidding yourself if you think there aren’t plenty of better players we could insert in his place.”
I definitely didn’t say that. What I said was the he’s a serviceable player on THIS team, and his skill set suits him well for the type of role he’s playing and being paid to play. Besides, I would rather see those “better players” replacing some of our top line deficiencies, and defensive deficiencies…at this point I’m not so worried about the fourth line center.
I don’t believe for a minute that losing Slater will make this team worse…but retaining him wont either. He and the rest of the fourth line are not the demise of this team, the defense and top line scoring is.
When the Thrashers had arguably two lines of scoring depth, I could understand the kvetching about 3rd and 4th line players (I hated Vigier, I’m sure most people know that). At that point the team was in contention, had scoring depth with Kovalchuk, Savard, Hossa, Bondra, and Kozlov, but needed several more pieces to truly compete (consistent goaltending, better defending, and better special teams). At that point I felt worrying about the bottom lines and defense was worthwhile…at this point in the Thrashers history I consider that an afterthought.
For now let’s worry about the lines that play the most minutes per night, get them up to par or better, then worry about our fourth line center situation. Slater is a serviceable 4th line center. It serves no purpose to upgrade his role when the rest of the team is built to lose.
February 27th, 20099:41 pm
Give Slater two decent linemates, i.e. Stuart and Crabb and we’d have a decent 4th like that might actually create some energy. Perrin is Slater without Jim’s grit. And, he makes as many bonehead plays as Exelby. For the “OK with Kari going gang”, forget it. DW and truly saavy hockey people know that with a decent cast, he’d be one of the 5-10 best goalies in the league. Good teams have the sense to build from the goalie out. Kari isn’t going anywhere so stop beating your gums. While your “beloved” Moose may be a fan favorite, he is a flopper who gives up a ton of rebounds and will always be a good back-up (at best)
February 27th, 200910:58 pm
I still don’t see Philly being a buyer unless they shed salary first, they will be over the cap I am pretty sure soon as Briere comes back.
Slates is fine by me, he hustles on the 4th line…
February 28th, 20092:38 am
Also, maybe we could send Kari this:
(click the 2nd clip-it’s great! I know this stuff works for people but I couldn’t stop laughing as I thought about KL listening to this and repeating along with announcer)
February 28th, 20099:17 am
jimbo, our 4th line does create energy. if you bring Crabb back, you’d have to sit Boults, and that should not happen.
I am not harping on Slater, but my opinion will not change and an upgrade with fringe players should be obviously needed. That includes Perrin. Here we are in year 9..and this is still our “rebuilding” phase. I think fans rate our players based on popularity rather than actual production. You could barely get a decent player if you packaged Perrin, Slater, and Christensen together in a trade for someone. Why does everyone hypothetically think they have value in trades ? Most teams don’t sit around and drool over anyone not named Kovy from our team. The reality of trades this time of year is about assets. No team looks at Slater as an assets other than the Thrashers, because obviously we are a mode; of how NOT to run a franchise.
February 28th, 20091:09 pm
“No team looks at Slater as an assets other than the Thrashers”
How many 4th line players in the league do you feel other NHL teams drool over? This is why it’s fruitless to discuss getting rid of what many people here consider fringe players. If no team would want them, what’s the point in trading them now when there aren’t better options on the roster currently? Where are those improvements coming from? Is it wise to build a fourth line with free agents, or wiser to build from within with capable fourth line players?
Discussing trading Slater or any other fourth round player is like trying to sell bald tires on a ‘95 Kia. Why sell the tires, or worry about improving it, when the entire car is a P.O.S.? Maybe the more pressing matter is improving the model or make, and then worrying about upgrading it with low profile tires and some wicked spinners.
In my opinion the fourth and third lines for this team’s immediate future can be successfully filled with some of the players already in the system or on the roster. Crabb, Lavallee, and Stuart have all proven themselves capable of logging low line minutes, keeping their level of play at a high tempo, and remaining defensively responsible (all three can serve quality time on the PK). With a center who fits the same mold (Slater), the Thrashers have the makings of serviceable fourth line built through their own system, not reliant upon one fringe free agent infusion after another. They aren’t going to be the envy of the league but neither will the rest of the roster in the immediate future.
I feel the Thrashers should make due with what they have for those low minute lines, and continue to improve the high minute lines via the draft and free agency.
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