Can employers require employees to get flu shots?

A recent AJC article indicated that the topic of flu shots in the workplace has become a popular topic of discussion at Atlanta law offices. That’s because employers are seeking legal advice about whether or not they can mandate their staff members to obtain flu shots, as the threat of swine flu looms this fall and winter.

Costco wholesale club at Cumberland Mall offerd flu shots today provided by the Atlanta branch Maxim Health Systems. Smyrna resident Donna Watson reacts as Carolyn Kimbrough, LPN, administers a flu shot. Todd R. McQueen, for the AJC.

Smyrna resident Donna Watson reacts as Carolyn Kimbrough, LPN, administers a flu shot. Todd R. McQueen, for the AJC.


According to the article, since Georgia is a right-to-work state, employers can mandate their employees take the swine flu shot — with a few exceptions such as religious beliefs, union contracts and allergies to vaccines — as a condition of continued employment, said Doug H. Duerr, a partner at Elarbee Thompson, Sapp & Wilson in Atlanta.

So far, major employers in metro Atlanta are not considering making the swine flu vaccine mandatory. Instead, they are setting up on-site locations for their staff to receive the flu vaccine, if they choose to do so.

Should employers be allowed to mandate flu shots for their staff members? Would you get a flu shot if your employer asked?

118 comments Add your comment

Danna

October 5th, 2009
9:19 am

NO one should be forced to get vaccines, especially one that is completely unprotected to the consumer. And, no, I would not get a flu shot if asked by my employer.

Jori

October 5th, 2009
9:28 am

While GA may be a right to work state, forcing a vaccine is unconsitutional and I wouldn’t do it. Of course I’ve got enough sense to stay home if I have the flu and most people don’t. That is the real issue, lack of common sense!

Freemason...

October 5th, 2009
9:28 am

ajc is owned by what corporation?…..
Here we go….you drop this little story
in all the papers to test public reaction.
Well add a hell no to your statistics.
Hmmm do you catalog the emails and ip
addresses of all the nos?…..
Wake up America!

Kacy

October 5th, 2009
9:28 am

No, I do not think anyone should be forced against there will to take any shot, especially the swine flu, since there is so little known about the long term and short term side effects. I would quit my job or be fired before I would get a mandatory shot of any kind.

Jim

October 5th, 2009
9:32 am

No! You did not mention employer liability if there are medical side effects from the shot.

Melissa

October 5th, 2009
9:33 am

Hell no. You would have to fire me. It is my choice on if I want a shot that is more dangerous than the actual flu.

Leslie Rand

October 5th, 2009
9:34 am

ABSOLUTELY NOT! Precautionary measures must be taught, rules put in place for handling materials, interaction with others, etc. Flu shots may be encouraged and suggested at the employer level, but ultimately the deecision belongs to the indiviudal (worker).

jimmy johns

October 5th, 2009
9:35 am

Enter your comments hereno they shouldnt…thats not right im not putting that poison in my system

jimmy johns

October 5th, 2009
9:37 am

no ever will i put something in my system that has the swine flu,bird flu and regualr flu in it all at once.

Jennifer

October 5th, 2009
9:39 am

They absolutely should not.
#1 There is no proof they work.
#2 Many people suffer side effects from them, since there is Mercury (Thimerisol) and Sqalene, not to mention other garbage that is harmful in them.
#3 People have even died from taking them.
#4 People catch the flu from the shot. The years I stupidly took it were the only years I got the flu because it weakened my immune system.
#5 Since the news agency’s refuse to honestly report on the flu and other vaccines, everyone should know that the government grants immunity to the flu vaccine manufacturer’s so there is no reason for them to make the vaccines safe because you can’t sue them if the vaccine is unsafe.

Think about it people it’s not worth risking your life or the other side effect, it’s just the flu. Think back to the days before the media created hysteria over it, if you had the flu you were sick for a day or two and that was it, after-wards your immune system was stronger.

Lynda

October 5th, 2009
9:43 am

Enter your comments here

Absolutely not, particularly not H1N1. Mandating vaccination as a condition of employment will cause more harm than good and may be unconstitutional.

Trina

October 5th, 2009
9:47 am

No, I would not get a flu shot – I have never had the flu – any kind of flu – and I am not going to let anyone inject me with the flu virus.

les frnks

October 5th, 2009
9:47 am

Enter your comments here
The answer is implicit in the question by reason of the word, “forced”. It is time for the people of this country to shed their sheep-like attitudes and bring on a second revolution for independence.

Mary

October 5th, 2009
9:51 am

I dont think it should be mandatory but more of a choice I do feel if you work in a medical setting and are exposed to it all the time then yes you should to prevent but if you know you are goin to have a reaction then it should be your choice.
Its funny when you get a flu shot some get flu symptoms following it the next day or so. ( after all you are being injected with a live virus to build your immune system. I am one who get symptoms afterward so I dont think I will be electing the H1N1 shot :)

Jim

October 5th, 2009
9:51 am

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Corporate America and the media have no right to even ponder such a question!!!

Steven

October 5th, 2009
9:55 am

Yeah, get the flu shoot or lose your job, what’s after that? Get a tattoo of the company logo on your back side or get fired?

Frank

October 5th, 2009
10:11 am

I am 58, I have never had a flu shot, and I have never had the flu! I can’t even remember the last time I had a cold. I won’t take a drug to do what a heathly imune system should be able to do on it’s own.
It seems the health industry has discovered that all they have to do is use the word “pandemic” and people will line up for their drugs, and they will sell all they can produce.

Gary

October 5th, 2009
10:13 am

a great deal of people dont know is that in the Swine Flu vacine in that in it is the accual swine flu virus, bird flu virus and the regular flu virus. The best way to keep yourself from catching the seasonal flu is to increase your vitaman C intake and get a good amount of sun light and a good night rest.That is how you fight these virus. I would advise anyone reading this article do not do not do not take any of these vaccine. Most people don’t even read the infomation on the bottle of the vaccine. It tells you of all of the side effects and whats in it… We need to educate ourselfs. This is why the word of God says ” My people die because of a lack of knowledge”

Susan

October 5th, 2009
10:14 am

Absolutely not! No one should be able to force anyone to put something in their system that the govenment has come up with – they are all liars and evil people, trying to get rid of thousands of people. Do your research people, and don’t take any shots of any kind that the govenment insists you take!

Adeline

October 5th, 2009
10:17 am

I am faced with this particular problem right now. I am an LPN, I work in a physician’s office. My employer of two years is using my refusal to take the flu vaccine as an excuse to force me out of work. I gave him a note from my doctor as he requested, stating that i am refusing the flu vaccine due to previous reaction to the vaccine. He accepted it, allow me to work for a few days with a face mask, then gave me a note giving me a deadline needing more explanation because according to him the note was not specific enough. He wants lot # and what side effect and whether my reaction was reported. Whether or not the vaccine was administered by my doctor. He is “not firing me” , but I am not allowed to work until then. I’ve checked with the Dept of Labor, and several other Govt offices. No one has any answer for me other than that, Georgia is a “right to work state ” What is wrong with this picture? Everyone should be upset about this. Whether you voluntary take the flu shot or not. Ask yourself, WHAT WILL BE NEXT? What will your employer require of you next in order for you to keep your job

Adrienne

October 5th, 2009
10:18 am

Absolutely not! My employer does not dictate my medical requirements & have no right to come between me & my family doc. As the vac makers have been protected from ANY lawsuits, the jig is up!!!! No vacs 4 me & mine! 1 encephalopathy from vac is enough.

SaveOurRepublic

October 5th, 2009
10:18 am

Of course not! These mercury laced vaccines should NEVER be mandatory. It’s a part of the Globalist Elite’s Malthusian eugenics agenda. Everyone needs to awaken regarding the scam of vaccines! Educate thineselves!

http://drtenpenny.com/vrc.aspx

Professor

October 5th, 2009
10:19 am

@Steven I totally agree. I am not worried about it my company is too cheap to do this there is no way they would ever pay for a flu shot.

Chris

October 5th, 2009
10:23 am

Enter your comments here: Forcing someone to take a medication, which is what a flu shot is, should never be allowed. If we can’t have a say-so about our own bodies, we can’t have one about anything!Besides, if it is forced and someone has a bad reaction, is the company prepared for a lawsuit?

Brian Jones

October 5th, 2009
10:30 am

The vaccines are fine, the procedures have stood the test of time and are much improved since the original polio vaccines. The hysteria, paranoia and conspiracy theories on that front would be laughable if it weren’t so sad. However, I stand by a person’s right to reject medical treatment on grounds of personal convictions. Legality wise, businesses in Georgia can actually do this, but I don’t think that it’s correct to do so.

Millie

October 5th, 2009
10:34 am

Are you kidding me? Is this STILL America? C’mon, people — wake up.

Sher

October 5th, 2009
10:39 am

There is NO data PROVING the flu vaccine is safe or even effective. It is outrageous that someone could be forced to take any kind of medical vaccine or be booted out of their job. Wake up, folks.. BIG BROTHER is here.. Resist, resist, resist and use your brains — and what’s left of the U.S. Constitution.

deinandra

October 5th, 2009
10:43 am

Absolutely NOT. I have never had a flu shot, and do not get the flu. I don’t avoid all vaccines, but will not take something for which my immune system seems to be doing just fine.

Linda

October 5th, 2009
10:43 am

It appears everyone who has responded has the same sentiment NO. Every company has requirements for employement, which each employee follows. The Government has rules and regulations which every US Citizen follows or pays the consequence. There are very few choices an individual can make with a complete free will. Flu shots or any medicine should not be a requirement by employer or by the government. Each person’s system and reactions to medicine is different. Will the government and employers take full responsibility and liability for any reactions an employee may have?

FreeThinker

October 5th, 2009
10:45 am

NO! NO! NO! NO! If required to take it I would quit and consider leaving this country. This is absolutely ludicrous and dangerous!

I'Joni

October 5th, 2009
10:45 am

Not just no, but HELL NO! Forcing people to take the flu vaccine is wrong. Especially when it doesn’t guarantee that you won’t catch the flu. It doesn’t stop irresponsible parents from sending their kids to school sick. It doesn’t stop irresponsible workers from coming to work sick. Thats what needs to stop! Thats what will bring this flu under control! There were several people sniffling on MARTA this morning. I’m just sitting there wondering how many of them were sick, putting other riders and their co-workers at risk. There’s a woman in our department that comes to work sick ALL the time! I’m sure many people have a co-worker that will do this. She came to work with the flu when this H1N1 first started showing up. Last year she came to work with the chicken pox! Both times she felt horrible but tried to “tough it out”. She finally went to the doctor both times to find out what she had, but only after she had been at work for days. The doc said she shouldn’t have been at work at all! How many people did she come in contact with and/or put at risk because of her careless actions??? People need to realize they’re not going to win some medal for coming to work with an infectious disease. Despite what you think, your office can do without you for a couple of days while you rest and get rid of whatever you have. And if the problem is your running out of sick days before you get more, then maybe you need to lead a healthier lifestyle. Another co-worker at my old job used up all her sick days, then got sick again. Well maybe if she took better care of herself during the times when she was well (she was overweight, didn’t exercise, and ate out all the time), she may not have gotten sick and burned through all her sick days. She was the perfect example of being reactive to sickness and disease, not proactive.

Winnie

October 5th, 2009
10:48 am

Every vaccine carries the risk of serious side effects, including death, and none are guaranteed to work. Everyone comes with their own health history which needs to be considered before any medical procedure.

If the point of getting a flu shot is to protect their workers, they should start with protecting them from the vaccine. THAT is the true threat to people’s health. Injecting mercury, formaldehyde, and other toxins is stupid.

Ellen

October 5th, 2009
10:49 am

Enter your comments hereAbsolutely not! You can bet the farm that no one in Congress, and no CEO of any company is taking the shot. When did such a thing as flu season begin? Every year you, months and sometimes a couple years before a so-called flu virus hits, we are warned of it. These viruses are manufactured to reduce the population. God is not giving the W.H.O. and the C.D.C a heads-up on flu viruses so they can run out and manufacture a vaccine for them. No! I would refuse a vaccine for flu, as no one knows what the heck the pharmaceutical companies have put in them, just like the ones causing autism in children. Americans are being overdosed on unknown chemicals in these shots!

Kelly

October 5th, 2009
10:52 am

Employers absolutely should not be allowed to force any employee to receive these shots. Doesn’t anyone remember the ’70’s flu scare and the greater harm caused by the vaccine than by the outbreak itself. Wash your hands, stay home if you have the flu and wear the appropriate clothing – oh and don’t get the shot unless your primary care physician recommends it for you.

DJ

October 5th, 2009
10:59 am

Seeing all of these strong reactions has made my day! I used to feel like I was in the minority in my opinions about vaccines, and I’m glad to see that the number of people who are wary of vaccines is growing. The worst part of the swine-flu frenzy is that pregnant women and infants are being targeted as needing the vaccines the most, when in actuality, infants and unborn children are the most likely to suffer harm from additives, such as mecury-based preservatives.

Chris

October 5th, 2009
11:01 am

It has nothing to do with constitutionality. The constitution and more importantly the bill of rights are only there to limit the government. It very clearly says that Congress may pass no law that does something such as violate or freedom of speech. A further amendment extended that terminology to include state governments. It says nothing about what private individuals and businesses may do with any agreements they form. Your employment is an agreement between you and your employer.

Robin

October 5th, 2009
11:04 am

Absolutely NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

TJ

October 5th, 2009
11:04 am

Throw another HELL NO on the pile. This is not even what I would consider refusing medical treatment – it is a preventative measure that MAY reduce your risk. I’d hope that the decision-makers of an organization would be smart enough to not jump on the paranoia bandwagon and exercise this benefit of our wonderful Georgia “right to work” system.

Of course, an employer who would force the vaccine probably might not be amenable to workers taking the paid sick time necessary to kick the flu. A required shot would be their attempt at sensitivity. Gotta keep ‘em productive!

Kathy

October 5th, 2009
11:05 am

I do not agree with forced vaccination because this is America and we are still free people. But I agree with Brian,this is paranoia at it’s best.As an RN I have seen the effects of H1N1 on very healthy young people.We have two young women in their 20’s at present that are on ventilators and may not survive.Now that is scary,not a vaccine .As for Jennifer ’s comment on thinking back to the days before the media caused hysteria about the flu,Jennifer look up some history an read about the pandemics that killed millions. Do you think maybe the reason we don’t see this in developed countries today is because of vaccines and the progress of science?

David

October 5th, 2009
11:09 am

Question: Can employers require employees to get flu shots?

Answer: NO

LosingTheLottery

October 5th, 2009
11:13 am

I think the basic point is being missed in this thread: A vaccine is designed to stop YOU catching the virus and spreading it to others. That’s why it is called PUBLIC health. Any vaccine is calculated gamble–there will be some negative outcomes — but for the vast majority of people it keeps them healthy and stops the spread of the disease.

In my view, e all have a moral responsibility — despite any minimal risks — to take the vaccine, just as you have a moral responsibility not to drive drunk and kill others, just as you have a duty to serve the country in time of war.

If you are so opposed to immunizations, drive down to Warm Springs and look at the breathing machines used by Polio patients at the Warm Springs Institute. Polio was largely iradicated through global use of the vaccine.

If you and 20 of your co-workers died or were crippled by H1N1, my guess is that your survivors would be suing your employer for failing to offer the shots and then complaining to the media that the government didn’t do what it was supposed to do to protect the public.

And, BTW, Jim, asking a question like this is precisely the right thing for the media to be doing — challenging the conventional wisdom and educating the ignorant. Kudos to the AJC for asking the question.

joannie

October 5th, 2009
11:14 am

Absolutely NOT!!! Nor should students or anyone else be forced to take them. The fact that this infringes on our constitutional rights should stop your even asking the question!!

Since it didn’t, let me ask why you haven’t given front page space to the dangers of the mercury in the vaccines and the subsequent development of autism, or ever asked what we can do to stop the flu nutritionally?

Many healthcare professionals are suggesting that deficiencies of Vit D (the sunshine vitamin) are the reason for the flu season. The flu shows up mostly in the fall and winter after every one has gone indoors and made it impossible for his body to get enough sunlight to make Vit. D. Studies have shown that getting enough Vit D in supplements can keep you from getting the flu, or can stop it if you do get it. Thus we don’t even need flu shots – and they’re more dangerous than the flu, itself!

Why help the drug companies poison us and subvert our freedoms when you could actually improve Americans’ lives and health by headlining the real news?

Chris

October 5th, 2009
11:18 am

I’ll put it this way. I’m a nurse, I can get a job without a problem. If my employer tells me I must get this vaccination or be fired. I would resign immediately. I wouldn’t want to work for someone who told me I must put a substance in my body or I will loose my job.

If americans thinks there is a nursing shortage now, try forcing nurses to do something they don’t want to, especially injecting some substance into their body they don’t want inside them. The nursing shortage will get dramatically worse if employers try to force this upon nurses.

jef

October 5th, 2009
11:19 am

Put another hell no in your syringe. Are companies prepared to give us paid absences without using our vacation and personel days when we become ill or who knows what ailment, after we take such shot? I’ve never been sicker than after I got the flu shot a few years back. Wash your hands and stay home if sick.

Jen

October 5th, 2009
11:21 am

Are the employers LIABLE if their employee has a bad reaction to the flu shot? Interesting, Georgia’s right to work policy does not mandate sick days or health insurance.

Stephanie

October 5th, 2009
11:28 am

I have copied and pasted Jennifer’s response because it is exactly my response but more concise!
For the vaccine issue know the people you are dealing with in the medical, pharmaceutical, and media professions, and their motives!

They absolutely should not.
#1 There is no proof they work.
#2 Many people suffer side effects from them, since there is Mercury (Thimerisol) and Sqalene, not to mention other garbage that is harmful in them.
#3 People have even died from taking them.
#4 People catch the flu from the shot. The years I stupidly took it were the only years I got the flu because it weakened my immune system.
#5 Since the news agency’s refuse to honestly report on the flu and other vaccines, everyone should know that the government grants immunity to the flu vaccine manufacturer’s so there is no reason for them to make the vaccines safe because you can’t sue them if the vaccine is unsafe.

Think about it people it’s not worth risking your life or the other side effect, it’s just the flu. Think back to the days before the media created hysteria over it, if you had the flu you were sick for a day or two and that was it, after-wards your immune system was stronger.Enter your comments here

Skeptical Jane

October 5th, 2009
11:32 am

To me, this smacks of “bonus sales” to the makers of the vaccines. Fan the flames of hysteria, convince governments of imminent danger and catastrophe, and then shove a “solution” in their face at just the right moment. Contrived and calculating.

A few people dying from a flu is NOT an “emergency,” nor is it an “outbreak” or “pandemic” or anything else. Humans – just like every other species on the planet – get thinned out and culled, and this is but one of nature’s tools.

What’s really unfortunate is that this is always all about money, and not about people…the vaccine only gives a temporary benefit to one particular strain. Keep doing this and your body never learns to withstand the test. Get any other strain, and you’re in a heap of trouble.

No employer has a right to demand that I submit to this farce for the pharmaceutical companies…I am an employee, not a slave. They might be able to dictate work hours, but they can’t force injections on me.

Gakii

October 5th, 2009
11:44 am

NO NO NO!!! Imagine the law suits that could ensue if any mandated employees developed complications?? I would NEVER get the flu shot if my job mandated it. I never have and hopefully never will.

Laurie

October 5th, 2009
11:47 am

I hope no employers mandate that flue shots must be taken by employees. This is borderline forced vaccination and what happened to ‘the patient has a right to refuse treatment’? I am highly skeptical of these flu shots and what else might be contained within them. I have never had a flu shot and I never plan to get one. My husband just got over swine flu and I have had no symptoms. I rarely get sick and don’t trust the flu shot’s safety and possibility of it causing the flu.

Laurie

October 5th, 2009
11:50 am

By the way, “right to hire” state? More like “right to fire” state. Georgia needs to get on the ball and employers need to develop zero tolerance policies to workplace bullying by staff and bosses. Whoever thought up this ‘right to hire’ deal should have been fired.

The government needs to stop creating a pandemic scare about the flu – it comes every year. Basic rule to avoid infections- wash your hands!

DE

October 5th, 2009
11:53 am

“Right to Work” ironically means Hire/Fire at will.

Nez

October 5th, 2009
11:59 am

Absolutely not! That is taking things too far.

Casandra

October 5th, 2009
12:10 pm

I do believe that people out in the workforce should be required to get the shot since a lot of people are not respectful enough to stay home and sit it out. Why, get other’s sick and make them stay at home?

John Smith

October 5th, 2009
12:33 pm

While this might work for some easy to replace employee’s how well would things work out if you lost hard to replace employees over flu shots? While it seems like a good idea from the productivity angle how about how much it will cost to replace highly skilled employees who could have another job in a week with a call to their recruiter? Its not a good idea to force anybody to do anything especially those who are running your enterprise.

RonJor

October 5th, 2009
12:33 pm

I would love to see the look on the “faces” of every employer when the entire workforce of the United States failed to report for work on the day they mandated flu shots.

That would be a PANDEMIC !!!

Sue

October 5th, 2009
12:40 pm

Enter your comments here I am a critical care nurse who has been required to have annnual TB test, all immunizations including hepatitis current, in order to protect me And the Patient. Do you really want a nurse who has the flu leaning over you? Do you want to get it from a patient? By the time there are symptoms one has already exposed others.

Andrea

October 5th, 2009
12:48 pm

Absolutely not. Requiring that an employee put something into their body that they wouldn’t otherwise ingest/inject is invasive and beyond the realm of an employers jurisdiction. They’ve hired me to do a job for them, that does not mean they own my body.

If they want to enforce a policy that requires anyone with a fever to stay home, that’s fine.

Melissa

October 5th, 2009
12:48 pm

I wonder what your feelings would be if your loved one was in the hospital and became infected with H1N1 or the seasonal flu by a nurse or other hospital worker who was not properly immunized. A person can be contagious for 24-48 hours PRIOR to the first symptom, so the nurse taking care of your child in the hospital can look healthy, feel healthy, but can still spread the flu. What would you say then?
Would you be worried about the nurse’s personal rights? Or public (your child’s) health then? What about all of the other children that nurse took care of that day?
I am a nurse who works in a NICU (neonatal intensive care unit). Premature babies, sick newborns who by definition are immunosupressed. I will GLADLY be getting both the seasonal flu shot tomorrow and the H1N1 vaccine as soon as it is available at my hospital. It IS mandated, but I would do it anyway. It is a question of public health. The H1N1 vaccine IS safe. It has been tested here in the US as well as in Europe. Both vaccines utilize DEAD viruses, so you do not get the flu from the flu shot. Both are available in mercury-free versions, if you request it. Squalene is NOT an ingredient in the US version of H1N1 vaccine. Get the facts, not rumors before you make up your mind.

Zaheerah Aleem

October 5th, 2009
12:56 pm

Enter your comments here
No! There should be no mandating of the H1N1 shot. There have been negative results from this shot and the companies making the drug are held harmless of any damages incurring to victims of the shot.

Susaannna

October 5th, 2009
1:11 pm

chalk up – yet another Hell no. If my company tries that – they can have a good time replacing my ass. :-)

PAUL

October 5th, 2009
1:13 pm

iF YOU ONLY KNEW WHAT’S IN THAT H1NI SHOT…YOU WILL RUN FAST AND I MEAN FAST!!!!

Tony Castelluci

October 5th, 2009
1:28 pm

The fact that everyone said “NO”, makes me realize that people are starting to wake up.

There is a revolution of mind going on in this country. I’m very happy to be part of the wake up call. Also very happy to call myself an American alongside this folks! Pretty damn awesome!

Now we have to all band together and demand the Federal Reserve become, well…Federalized! The central banking cartels that run our paper money have ripped us off for far too long.

Dr K

October 5th, 2009
1:31 pm

No, no and no…forcing people to get a shot that hasn’t proven to be effective isn’t the answer

Contrar

October 5th, 2009
1:34 pm

Yes. I think everyone should get a flu shot.

Contrar

October 5th, 2009
1:35 pm

Yes. I think everyone shoud get a flu shot.

Alissa Smith

October 5th, 2009
1:40 pm

I know we lost the right to free speech, I know we lost the right to due process. How many more rights are we willing to just give up before something is done? We do not get preventative medicine/alternative medicine costs paid for by the companies we work for, or by the government. Yet, they want to force something the “prevents” (and NO IT DOESN’T PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING THE WHATEVER IT IS THEY’RE TRYING TO PEDDLE, IN FACT IT MAKES YOU SUSCEPTIBLE TO IT!!!) a new disease they come up with?
Swine flu, bird flu, mosquito flu, next we’ll have boar flu and kamikaze flu!

Instead of mandating things that ONLY BENEFIT F***ing DRUG COMPANIES, WHY NOT MONITOR WHAT THOSE COMPANIES DO, SO THEY DON’T GO CREATING ANY MORE DISEASES THAT THEY UNLEASH UPON THE GENERAL POPULATION? BUT NO! THERE’S GOT TO BE PROFIT!

Mandate people working out! Mandate ORGANIC food growth and production! Mandate CLEAN AIR! MANDATE a stop in GLOBAL WARMING! Mandate things that strengthen our immune system, not jeopardize it! But hey, WHERE’S THE PROFIT IN THAT, RIGHT?

BUT AGAIN! NOTHING SHOULD BE MANDATORY!

And for those of you that have already drank the cool-aid, OPEN UP YOUR EYES! LOOK AROUND YOU! SEE THE STATE OF AFFAIRS WE AS A PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY IN!

If you want to take the darn shot, MOVE TO MASSACHUSETTS and vote for this new law they’re trying to pass! In this law, the Governor has the right (or soon will have) to indeed mandate/force you to take the shot. If you refuse, you could be fined up to $10,000 & 5 years in prison! Yeah! We live in a free country!

God save us all!

Melissa

October 5th, 2009
1:46 pm

Paul, apparently you don’t know what’s in the H1N1 immunization either, or you’d state it, and you wouldn’t be so frightened.

For those who don’t want thimerisol (the mercury-based preservative) in their flu shots (H1N1 or seasonal), they can request either a single-dose vial which is preservative-free, or the flu mist which is administered as a nasal spray. However, the flu mist is a LIVE, attenuated (meaning weakened) version of the flu (seasonal or H1N1) virus, so there are risks involved with that. If you are around someone who is immunocompromised, you should not get the flu mist, because the live virus can be “shed” from your nose when you sneeze or cough, and there is a small risk that you can actually get the flu from the flu mist (unlike the flu shots).
Squalene is an adjuvant which is approved for use in Europe. It is NOT approved by the FDA and therefore NOT in the H1N1 vaccine here. Adjuvants are materials which help boost the effectiveness of a vaccine, but at this time there is none being used in H1N1.

Michelle

October 5th, 2009
1:52 pm

I believe that it is each persons right to decide if they want to get the flu shot or not. I don’t believe a company has the right to force anything on an employee that may endanger their lives. Although, they are paying your bills at this point and yes, you are enslaved to them for a specific amount of time during the day. If you don’t want to be forced by corporate america to do things then start your own business and run it how you like. No one says, we HAVE to work for someone else. We live in a free country, it is our government that educates us in our government run schools, that we are programmed to go to College, get a “good job” (Where does that exist?), and you will be set. Apparently all of the same unemployed people in today’s economy is looking for that “good job”. Jobs are great as a temporary means or if you like to stay employed and don’t have the desire to work for someone else. REGARDLESS, we should never be FORCED to ever inject our bodies with a vaccine. I had the flu once 10 years ago, and that was only a couple months, after I had open heart surgery and my immune system was down. I revived and am still alive 10 years later.

If you don’t want to catch the flu take your vitamins, like Nutrilite Supplements, DoubleX – (I get mine at) jwaller.qhealthbeauty . com and other supplements that has Vitamin C & D in it, to keep your immune system healthy during the winter months.

Chris

October 5th, 2009
2:00 pm

You’re delusional if you think the H1N1 vaccine doesn’t contain Squalene. Google it Melissa, it’s in the vaccine, but if you still don’t believe Squalene is in the vaccine, go ahead and take the vaccine, take a chance on getting ‘Gulf War Syndrome’. Do you think our precious government isn’t willing to give their own people Squalene? Look at the soldiers from the Gulf War, look at all the unapproved injections they were forced to take. Go ahead Melissa, take the vaccine, trust your government and believe everything they tell you.

Michelle

October 5th, 2009
2:03 pm

@ Chris. LOL. :-) You are so right about that.

Olvinn

October 5th, 2009
2:04 pm

No, I think if employers start mandating vaccines, then they have crossed the line. I definitely would not take a vaccine. If I have had the flu, i would not know because I treat it like I treat a cold, drink plenty of fluids and stay home so you dont infect anyone else. I agree with other people, if I get sick or worse, die from the vaccine, can I sue you.? I know the answer is no, so why risk my life.

Bishop Anderson

October 5th, 2009
2:17 pm

Whether an employer can legally force an employee to take a flu shot, and prevail in a law suit if they fire a non complying employee, it is clear that the benefit to an office is primarily to the employee who takes the shot. If all but one take the shot, the one who doesn’t, and gets sick, isn’t going to infect those who did take the shot. However if the employer requires the employee to take the shot as a condition of continued employment, and the employee has a negative reaction or catastrophic reaction to the shot, which can very rarely happen, the employer would be subject to a law suit by the employee. Whether they would prevail or not would depend on the court.

Wil

October 5th, 2009
2:34 pm

The AJC trial-balloon question was Can. . .? Okay, perhaps employers, under some obscure law, require employees to sacrifice their health (although is the vaccine approved by OSHA?), but the question might be rephrased in two parts to be more telling:

1) Should employers be allowed to require. . . and 2) If an employer requires. . . will you submit?

So I’ll answer my questions:
1) NO! The last I heard we were a democracy and a republic. We are not yet the United Socialist States of America–let’s not push it.
2) If I had an employer, I wouldn’t submit.

May The Lord Y’shuaJesus have mercy upon this once-free and reasonable nation.

Wil

Anita

October 5th, 2009
2:41 pm

First issue: Georgia is a RTW state, To remain such, there are compromises to be made. One of those choices is to allow private employers to do anything legal as a requirement of employment. Unless you have a contract which explicitly excludes the ‘and other duties as assigned’ included in almost all regular level, non executive positions, you then make the choice to do as they will or resign. You have to face reality of life without unions. Business loves it. Employees don’t always.

Second issue: Sick leave, Health insurance, employment reviews: Absences are counted against you at most businesses. Sick leave is meaningless at others. Do you go to work sick and spread your contagion or do you do the right thing, stay home and use some sick leave if you have it?

Final Issue: If I had a business where my workers were in constant contact with the public or in a largely populated work environment, I would STRONGLY encourage them to be up to date on their life saving immunizations including flu vaccines. The risks are smaller with all immunizations than with full blown disease. The consequences of disease involve a greater scope than one person’s body. We do have to think of the common good at times.

Kay

October 5th, 2009
2:43 pm

Hell No!!! Thousands die every year from regular flu and the flu shot is not required for the regular flu. There have not been thousands dying of the swine flew the whole thing is a scare tactic makes you wonder what’s in this untested vaccine that someone wants us to make so bad to make it mandatory. Welcome to 1984 the Facist state run government is upon us google Alex jones and know the truth

Charlton Allen

October 5th, 2009
3:20 pm

I am an employer and would not mandate such a policy. I would not want an employee to report to work with the flu either. If absenteeism becomes an issue due to flu, then I would handle it on a case by case basis.

Chris

October 5th, 2009
3:21 pm

A little more information for everyone:

The U.S. government has contracts with several drug companies to develop and produce swine flu vaccines. At least two of those companies, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline, are using an adjuvant in their H1N1 vaccines.

The adjuvant? Squalene.

Squalene (MF-59), an ingredient in the H1N1 (Swine Flu) vaccine has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease).

Michelle

October 5th, 2009
3:29 pm

There is some interesting information on how to tackle the flu on this blog jhwaller.blogspot.com. Check it out. Some Natural ways – which doesn’t have all the horrible chemicals, mercury and latex drugs that our body doesn’t know how to naturally handle.

lauren

October 5th, 2009
4:42 pm

Enter your comments here Your work place should not require you to put any substance into your body but they should focus on sending someone home if they suspect that person has a bad cold or flu. A firm suggestion from a supervisor or human resouces person that an individual take a couple of days off to recoup from a bad cold or flu is not unreasonable.

VP, HR

October 5th, 2009
4:54 pm

Companies who care enough about the productivity and well being of employees to actually do whatever it takes to have a healthy workforce, are companies that individuals should want to work for. First, if your co-workers are not reporting to work sick with the flu, you will reduce your own chances of becoming sick and also passing the flu to your friends and family. Second, companies are wanting to retain productivity with a healthy workforce – there is nothing wrong with that as productivity is what earns companies money and in turn, provides jobs and benefits to employees.

Chris

October 5th, 2009
4:59 pm

@ VP, HR. How dare us want to care more about our health than your revenue. Shame on us!

Adeline

October 5th, 2009
5:38 pm

Having said all of that, does anyone actually knows what can someone do if she is being forced out of work because she refused the flu vaccine?

Roberta

October 5th, 2009
6:24 pm

Enter your comments here No one should be forced into taking the swine flu shot. Do a little research on the adjuvant “squalene” and it just may scare you to death before the swine flu gets you.

Anita

October 5th, 2009
7:40 pm

This has become a scary DON’T VACCINATE blog. How about reading the question?
No, unless you are a health care or child care worker, it should not be required of an employer…What about our military employees? They are immunized for our country’s safety and for their own. Adverse events that are long lasting are rare considering the amount of vaccines administered and the millions of servicepeople immunized.

Growing up, I actually suffered through measles (three different kinds), chicken pox, mumps and other diseases for which vaccines are available today. So many children and others died then as compared to now although our population has increased. The two persons in my large family who died from flu were young and healthy. I gladly have had all of my children and grandchildren immunized and all are up to date with yearly boosters when necessary and flu shots when needed. In the case of all current immunizations, the percentage of those who have had adverse events is tiny compared to those who have had terribly adverse reactions to simple Tylenol and Tylenol based drugs yet we still use them because that is still a small percentage of users.

The scare mongers are out there. But please put it in perspective.

Lisa White

October 5th, 2009
8:09 pm

Wow, where are we living? What is happening to personal liberties and responsibilities? The flu shot does not prevent the flu. Let’s just start there. Healthy people should not be required to receive the flue shot as a conditon of employment. Flu shots are for immune compromised individuals – not normal healthy folks.
It’s a money thing people!

Dennis

October 5th, 2009
8:15 pm

As people say Georgia is a right to work state. But does that allow employers to dictate what you do with your personal life? The choice of taking or not taking the flu shot is a personal one and even though you work for some one that does not give them the right to make choices for you. You let them make this one and soon they will be making all of your choices. Such as whom you can date, what car you should drive, who you can marry etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. If that is what you want go ahead and allow the work place to dictate your personal choices to you. Me I will make my own decisions thank you.

Heather

October 5th, 2009
9:22 pm

Absolutely not! But I would also add to all the other adults who’ve answered no, why is it ok for the government to force parents to vaccinate their children? Same diff, folks! Inadequate or compromised testing, toxic chemicals, aborted fetal tissue, limited immunity and effectiveness, side effects… These are all reasons why I don’t vaccinate myself and why it galls me that I’ve had to do it to my children.

bajeha

October 5th, 2009
9:56 pm

IMO the “hell no” commenters are ignorant and short-sighted at best and downright dangerous at worst. It appears that they haven’t bothered to read the flu.gov or cdc.gov web sites, but instead are rehashing wildly inaccurate urban legends to support their refusal to be vaccinated. I got the swine flu shot in 1976 (with no side effects), and the same type of people reacted exactly the same way. Some things never change.

I plan on getting both vaccines to protect myself and those around me. If you are a “hell no” type who won’t get vaccinated, please let me know where you work – or will be looking for work — so I can avoid those places.

For the most current information about both flu vaccines, please read the CDC’s October 1, 2009 bulletin at http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/clinicians_qa.htm

bajeha

October 5th, 2009
10:15 pm

IMO the “hell no” commenters are being ignorant and short-sighted at best and downright dangerous to society at worst. It appears that they haven’t bothered to read the flu.gov, cdc.gov or who.int web sites to get the facts on swine flu, but instead choose to rehash inaccurate urban legends about the vaccine to support their stance. The same type of people reacted the same way in 1976, when I got a required swine flu shot (no side effects) along with most other Americans. Some things never change.

I plan on getting both vaccines this year to protect myself and everyone around me. If you are a “hell no” type, please let me know where you work – or will be looking for work — so I can avoid you.

For the most updated information about both flu vaccines, please read the CDC’s October 1, 2009 bulletin at http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/clinicians_qa.htm

Lynn

October 5th, 2009
11:07 pm

I work in the medical field as a Medical Assistant in a doctor’s office. I have never had the flu shot (before working at the doctor’s office and even while working at the doctor’s office), and I have never gotten the flu. The flu shot itself has the dead virus, everyone carries all of the viruses and diseases inside of us, it just takes something to trigger it to come out. My employer told me that I need to get the vaccine for the flu and I refused. They want me to get the Swine Flu Vaccine, I will continue to refuse. If we all think back to 1975 and how many people got a lifetime problem of Bells Palsy from the Swine Flu Vaccine back then, who knows what you will get with this one. As the old saying goes “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”!!!! If I have been immune through confirmed cases that have come into our office already, I may already have immunity to it – why inject myself and get sick???? Couldn’t be me!!!

sue

October 6th, 2009
1:50 am

If your work place would be at risk (healthcare,work with children/college students),employees should get vaccinated. What is wrong with keeping a healthy workplace. Fear and lack of understanding is creating a negative attitude. If employees are unsure of the swine flu vaccine they should at least get the annual flu vaccine to boost their immunity. I was in the military in 1976 when the swine flu vaccine was required to prove it was safe. I had a very sore arm but otherwise I was fine. I am sure the vaccine process has improved in 33 years. Think about what would happen if the illness spread rapidly and many were sick. They economy is depressed enough. A mass flu outbreak would keep everyone home, no one to shop or work or keep operations moving.

RJ

October 6th, 2009
6:27 am

Since it is a VIOLATION of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, NO, employers should not be able to force an employee to take a vaccination of any kind, health care worker or NOT. The CDC is controlled by board members that have financial interests in the pharmaceutical companies. HellO! Search for and download the affidavit (it’s online, don’t have time to post link here) that tells your employer you will not have your rights violated, even if you have to say it’s for religious reasons and you have no religion. I waved it in front of my boss’s face concerning the TB test (another farce!! Don’t fall for it!) and they never mentioned it again. As for Bajeha and Sue, right above me here, READ, people. Read. Research. Educate yourself. It’s a LIE. You do not know what you are talking about, so please go get some real information and stop believing what the so-called “authorities” tell you. Be your own authority and STOP letting others run your life. Don’t be the sheep they want you to be.

Not only NO, but HELL, NO. Not ever. Because I’m smarter than they want me to be.

Dan

October 6th, 2009
6:42 am

No one should be forced to get the vaccine of course, but let’s stop with the conspiracy theories please. No one is trying to control you in this case. When they say “you only have your health”, that’s very true. Have people gotten sick from the vaccine? Yes, your body’s immune system is built up as a result which is essential. People who are allergic to eggs and chicken shouldn’t take it, it’s common sense.

As for the mercury, there are very very trace amounts of mercury or whatever preservative they use. And you know what? If you’re still too scared to get injected, the vaccine is offered in a nasal mist and there’s no mercury! My nephews had this done a couple of weeks ago

I had the injection a couple of weeks ago. I’m fine. I didn’t get sick after and I haven’t gotten sick since. This will be the end result for 99% of the people who get vaccinated.

You want to get mad at the big corporate world? Have at it. But by “refusing” to get vaccinated you’re not striking back at anyone. Enjoy your freedom, and “don’t cough on me”.

Trevor

October 6th, 2009
8:47 am

I agree that no one should be able to force you to take any kind of medicine, but this is a “right to work state” and they can legally let you go with no recourse. The economy is in very bad shape as we all know so I wouldn’t rock the boat at work right now. Pick and choose your battles very carefully or you could be collecting unemployment along with many other Americans. I believe we have rights but there is a time and place for everything. The holidays are coming closer and it will be a cold winter, especially if you are not working!

allen

October 6th, 2009
9:31 am

no this flu was made by the government. This will be the reason this Left WING GOVERNMENT, turns our country over to an international body to be ruled. Not by Americans but by a FEW Elite and rich people. Americans beware it’s happening they are trying to end the United States of America

Dave

October 6th, 2009
9:43 am

Today it’s H1N1, tomorrow? Sure you don’t have to take it, but you LOSE YOUR JOB if you don’t? What a choice.I’m glad some are so relaxed about this, you give these folks an inch and they will take a mile. What’s next? Will folks have to take birth control, so companies won’t have to pay for pregnacy. Oh wait, Obama care will take care of all that. “Stop with the conspiracy theories”, …you’re right, I guess it’s not really a consipriacy theory if it’s not really being hidden…lol.
Check out the movie Gattaca, is it the extreme version of this. Yes, but is it not the path this country is on?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/

PublicHealthProfessional

October 6th, 2009
10:34 am

Wow. I can’t believe that so many people can be so ignorant about such a simple subject. I work for the government and can assure you that: (1) No, we did not create the flu virus. It is a naturally occurring phenomenon. Every year, a new variant of the flu virus develops within the pig or fowl population and is passed to humans. This usually happens someplace in Asia and then it spreads around the world. (2) The vaccine is not poison. We are not in cahoots with the drug companies, trying to make money by injecting unsuspecting citizens with something that will harm them. In fact, the flu vaccine is free this year. That’s right. The government is footing the bill to keep American healthy this flu season. (3) The H1N1 vaccine does not contain avian flu, swine flu, and seasonal flu all in one dose. That would be great if we could get them all into one shot, but it’s just not the case. In fact, the avian flu vaccine is not yet available to the public.
The CDC has some great information about the flu, both H1N1 and seasonal. I encourage the paranoid masses to read up a little bit before they go spreading rumors. http://www.cdc.gov

David

October 6th, 2009
10:59 am

No one should be forced into medical care that is not of their choosing and I would refuse. However, for all the people that are speaking of rights being taken away, Remember the people in this country that currently do not have all of the rights you do… the rights that are refused others could just as easily be refused you. Rights in this country are a matter of convenience. Thank you right wing republicans!

Dave

October 6th, 2009
11:04 am

PublicHealthProfessional….the issue here is that employers are forcing employees to take something into their bodies that they don’t want. Thanks for the flu lesson, but you seemed to stepped right around the main point. For people who would like it great, but employers shouldn’t have the ablitity to “force” it on the “paranoid masses” with an ultimatum of losing their jobs.
Now on the other hand, you do have to get your children vaccinated in order to get them into pulbic schools, so in a sense, this is nothing new. Though they are still researching the relationship between these vaccination and illness contibuted to it later on in life.
I don’t believe people have faith in this rushed solution, and certainly not in a employer dictating your medical needs.

BONNIE

October 6th, 2009
11:11 am

Enter your comments here SOMETIME I WONDER IF I AM STILL IN AMERICA! I CAN’T IMAGINE ANYONE ATTEMPTING TO FORCE EMPLOYEES TO TAKE ANY SORT OF SHOT! WE ARE LOOSING OUR FREEDOMS EVERY DAY! WAKE UP AMERICA … WE ARE QUICKLY BECOMING THE SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA … AND WHAT EMPLOYER WOULD WANT TO TAKE ON THE LIABILITY THAT SUCH AN ACTION COULD INITIATE? NO EMPLOYER IN HIS OR HER RIGHT MIND~! THIS IS JUST A SMALL EXAMPLE OF ALL THAT IS WRONG IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY … PERSONAL FREEDOMS ARE BEING ERODED … WHILE “BIG BROTHER” IS TAKING OVER! IT’S PAST TIME FOR AMERICANS TO SEE THE LIGHT!

BONNIE

October 6th, 2009
11:26 am

Enter your comments here TO DAVID….EXACTLY WHAT RIGHTS MIGHT I HAVE THAT OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE LEGALLY IN THIS COUNTRY WOULDN’T HAVE? AS A LONG-TIME RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN … FOR WHICH I WILL NOT APPOLOGIZE … I AM TOTALLY AMAZED AT YOUR COMMENT … AND WANT TO KNOW WHAT RIGHTS ARE BEING DENIED TO AMERICANS ACCORDING TO WHAT GROUPINGS? WE ARE ALL LOOSING RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS EVERY DAY …. THANK YOU LEFT WING LIBERALS!

PublicHealthProfessional

October 6th, 2009
11:40 am

I do think that employers should be able to mandate vaccinations for their employees. It’s nothing new. Kids have to get several vaccinations to attend school. Health care workers have to get Hep B and chickenpox vaccinations to find employment. Travelers have to get yellow fever and other vaccinations before stepping foot in many countries. This is all done for the sake of public health. We are not trying to keep one person from getting sick. We are trying to keep one sick person from infecting entire communities (or places of business, in this case). It’s called herd immunity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

-lenor

October 6th, 2009
11:54 am

Enter your comments here
No. Absolutely No. We have lost enough rights since 2001. Besides this I would not want to be a guinea pig for some new vaccine. Prevention is better than cure. If one would work on improving one’s health the immune system would get a boost and most outbreaks would be avoided.

Shanteeza

October 6th, 2009
3:02 pm

Employees should not be required to get a flu shot. If anything a employer should be required to keep a cleaner enviroment for their employees.

muhammad

October 6th, 2009
3:40 pm

No one should be forced to get vaccines it’s violation of the constitution

Trisha

October 6th, 2009
9:15 pm

I have already gotten a flu mist this year, i made sure my whole entire family did as well too (if not the flu mist then the flu shot). Its not right to “require”….so the words should be “recommended”. I work in a Pediatric office. One of the doctors has seen 200+ H1N1 flu patients in almost 2 months. I’m not sure about the other two in the practice i’m at. Before i worked in a pediatric office, i worked in retail. You can catch whatever the customers are bringing in to get their prescription or just to shop around the store.

I think people should get the H1N1. As a healthcare worker I will be getting it when I can. I’m not going to risk myself, my family, or others around me getting it. My mom works in an Internal Medicine practice and she’s gotten the flu shot. My father is disabled and has gotten the flu shot. My sister in high school and my fiance both have gotten the flu mist. I bring home germs being in my office and so does my mom being in hers. The doctors in my practice are going to be getting it and so will all the employees at my office will. Its “recommended” by the company that my office is under.

Rick

October 7th, 2009
7:15 am

Absolutely not! No one should be required to get a flu shot. They don’t work half the time because you never know what strain is out there and H1N1 is not any worse than some of the other Flu’s out there…

That being said, we need to be responsible to our co-workers though folks. Know what the symptoms are and dont go to work/school if you are sick.

.:Rock:.

Denise

October 7th, 2009
11:48 am

Enter your comments here
Absolutely not!!!!! This is America. I have the right to determine whether or not I want a Flu shot. Employers better think about the liability if one of their employees has a severe allergic reaction, or worse yet dies and they did not want the vaccine. I was around for the 1976 Swine Flu Vaccine and remember all of the problems with it such as Guillen Barre Syndrome and death. I didn’t take it then either because I was pregnant: my husband did and boy was he sick. The AJC just interviewed the doctor who was in charge of the CDC in 1976. He resigned in disgrace at the time and guess what? He said that he would NOT take the vaccine today, “since he is not in a high risk group.” Yeah, right!

DeVine

October 7th, 2009
12:21 pm

Hell to the NO! it’s funny how the fed gov can pull a vacine out of there you know what, but can’t find a cure for AIDS, but already have one for H1N1 just like that. But for those of you who don’t know H1N1 has been out scince the 70’s just like AIDS. People of America wake up the fed gov is killing you AIDS (Animals In the Digestive System) Stop eating all of this FDA approved meat.
peace2fingers

ricardo quintero

October 7th, 2009
8:24 pm

Enter your comments here is this a joke, what is next ?

Gary Higgins

October 8th, 2009
6:47 am

Right To Work is a piece of legislation that speaks to employers mandating union membership as a condition of employment.
It does not to my understanding state that an employer can enforce things (such as mandatory vaccinations) as a conditions of continued employment.
Please show me how my interpretation is incorrect.

Kimberly

October 9th, 2009
1:52 am

No, I don’t feel it is right to make anyone take a flu shot if they do not choose. Last time checked I live in the land of the free. We have right’s here in the good old United States Of America, or did the White House take that right away without telling any of us. What good is a Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights if we cannot choose what we want to do with “OUR” own bodies. Whats the point of having our Soldiers over there fighting for our freedom and our choice of rights if we cannot have them. The government puts all this stuff on T.V. just to brain wash us and never puts the truth about whats really going on. I agree with the other comment WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! Are we that stupid and that easy to brain wash???? We pride ourselves on “our” rights and freedom but what rights and freedoms do we really have anymore.

Muhsinah

October 9th, 2009
5:48 pm

If we could just get the sick people to stay home. So many come to work when they are contagious and they know it. I have not gotten the flu every since I started taking flu shots. It has been recommended by my physicians that I get the shot since I am in a high risk group.
Even with the shot, I am still worried about those persons who know they are ill and come to work.

laquanda

October 12th, 2009
12:11 pm

unfortunately…us military service members have no choice..its mandatory..now for the swine flu..i dont know. i will fight to refuse it though cause we dont know its compications

RN

October 17th, 2009
8:31 pm

Replying to an earlier post: We’re supposed to be impressed by our generous, caring government providing the H1N1 vaccine for FREE!? Gee, I wonder where the government got the money to afford that……………………. Guess I should consider myself lucky to live in a country where the government takes nearly half of every paycheck I earn, and then returns part of the money to me in the form of a (potentially mandatory) vaccine shot in the arm? Maybe the Government could give me a tattoo on my wrist, too………

AnotherHealthProfessional

October 24th, 2009
9:07 pm

To PublicHealthProfessional, that’s untrue about being required to get HepB or chicken pox vaccines to find employment. You sign a waiver. At least in my world. And I’ve been a nurse for 15 years. I’m a strong advocate of patient rights, so I guess that spills over into EVERYONE’S rights for me. I will NOT be getting this vaccine, I have very clear memories of the previous hysteria, and the outcome. Should my employer decide that my job requires I get this (I never get the flu shot and have NEVER EVER had a problem, whereas many of my co-workers have after getting one), my resignation would be in before the end of the day. And they should really try actually doing blood tests on people before dx’ing H1N1. But the Wise and Wonderful CDC doesn’t want them to do that anymore. It’s a “waste of resources” and the assumption is sufficient because “there’s a pandemic.” Scary? Absolutely. Surprising? Not at all.

Donna

October 26th, 2009
8:36 pm

Well the flu shot should be up to the person. If the shot is not avaible in your state or area yet and everyone is getting sick how do you stop it? They tell you to stay home. Tell that to the employers. When you going to lose your job if you dont come in what do you want people to do. They have to have there jobs. Companies are making this difficult for people who are sick already. What choice do they have.

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August 16th, 2010
9:18 am

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