Atlanta Hawks: Redemption and a true milestone

It all seemed to come together at once.

The Hawks played the way they needed to nearly all game long, the guys who needed to step up did, and they even had some calls go their way (the jump ball after Rose was fouled on a long jumper attempt was bizarre). All of this, and the Hawks reached a true milestone. Two wins in the second round of the playoffs, you say? So much more than that, I say. The goal should never be to lose better, or to just take the smallest of baby steps. The goal is to put yourself into position to take leaps and bounds. Winning game 4 did just that for the Hawks. Not only have they done what they needed to do to win games against their favored opponent, the Hawks have put themselves into actual contention for a place that only the elite teams in a conference can go – the Conference Finals. Atlanta has shown that it can beat Chicago, and that this is no fluke. Is the series over? Of course not, and that goes both ways. Which team is headed to the Eastern Conference Finals? Many automatically assumed it would be the Bulls, and the Hawks just made it a question that every expert and pundit has to think about for a few seconds before giving an answer. Both teams look like they believe in themselves, and that was never a question for Chicago. But it was for Atlanta…and now that question is answered. They believe. What’s more, they are giving everybody else something to believe.

The Hawks are now competing for real. Milestone reached.

 

Making all the Right Moves

This really starts with coaching. Larry Drew did quite the job Sunday night, getting his guys to do what they needed to, and keeping their heads in the game. Drew’s decision to start Jason Collins paid dividends as Collins immediately added the physicality that Atlanta needed to start the game. Collins is one of those guys who never could claim the boxscore as his friend, as it can never tell the story of the impact he has on a game. Despite not claiming a single rebound, his presence was felt in his size and body weight down low, as well as his ability to get good positioning. If you don’t believe it, just as Noah how difficult it was to get rebounds with Collins in the way. Ask Rose how good those fouls felt. All that and Collins gave the Hawks a couple of confidence-inspiring inside baskets.

Even better was Drew’s decision to play Zaza Pachulia for 25 minutes or so. Pachulia responded the way he normally has when given good minutes – smart play, toughness, and very much needed rebounding. Fact is, Zaza kept the Hawks all but even in the rebounding category (Bulls 37, Hawks 36), something Atlanta had been struggling with.

Of course, much of this came at the expense of one Marvin Williams. But here’s the thing – Marvin has been largely ineffective, as he was in game 4. Yes, he did look like he got fouled a few times out there with no calls coming his way. On the flip side of the coin, there were times that even Rose didn’t get the call after charging to the hole. As such, it’s hard to argue the foul calls in his favor, and aside from a couple of nice blocks, he wasn’t getting much done (0-5 from the field, no rebounds). Bottom line, it wasn’t about what Marvin failed to do, it was about what the Hawks needed that he doesn’t provide – physicality. Larry Drew knew this, and he played guys accordingly.

Late Bloomer

This wasn’t just Josh Smith’s best game in the playoffs. It was his best game all season. The early jumpshot attempts had the home crowd groaning and cringing, and his insistence on running the fast break after the rebound probably made even his teammates want to pull their hair out. Fortunately for the Hawks, Smith managed to abandon the perimeter game and went work inside, to wondrous results. The post game comments made me think Smith still doesn’t recognize the vastly different results of his inside or outside play, but the majority of his play, particularly in the second half suggested otherwise (uhh….we hope). Smith’s hyperactivity around the glass (16 boards) and his passing (8 assists) were pivotal in this game, as was his scoring at the basket. Again, his decision to run the break seemed like one of folly, but then it became obvious – the Bulls lacked the speed to keep up with him for the most part, and even the fleet-footed Rose seemed unable or unwilling to try and pick Smith’s pocket.

We can only hope to see more such play from Josh Smith. Chicago doesn’t have an answer for him when he plays with passion, yet under control and in the areas where he can excel. Smith was MVP for a night. Now he has to be consistent for the series.

Back in the Game

Limited by foul trouble, it seemed Al Horford wouldn’t be able to get back on track, but he maintained an aggressive stance on offense and also was more decisive with his moves. While his 5 rebounds were nothing to write home about, his efficiency from the field (9 made shots out of 11 attempts) and heady play (4 assists) were absolutely on time. We knew that Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford would not be able to keep up the twin 20+ point per game performances up forever, and somebody would have to step up besides them. Last night, Horford did that, and the Hawks will be needing a similarly efficient offensive threat more often, to take this series.

Rock Steady

If there are two guys in this playoff series that are performing pretty consistently, it’s Joe Johnson and Jeff Teague. Unlikely combo? Perhaps, but you’re not getting many complaints right now.

Johnson was solid against Orlando, but he continues to prove himself to be the team’s best player against Chicago. The best guys step up their game in the playoffs and Johnson is doing just that in the 2nd round with 54% shooting from the field, including a hair under 67% from three point range for 21 points per game. Johnson struggled a bit against Chicago’s League-best defense but poured it on in game 4. Look for him to continue to attack quickly and keep on hurting the defense after seeing how well it’s worked so far.

If there any questions about Jeff Teague at this point, they should only surround his jumpshot. The lightning quick point guard has more than proven himself in the heat of battle in ways that nobody saw coming during the season (if you tell me you KNEW he’d do exactly this well in the playoffs, then I want you doing my financial investments). Shooting 52% from the field, Teague is also doing exceptionally well with the ball in his hands (3.8 assists to 1.2 turnovers per game, a 3-t0-1 ratio!), and finds himself as the team’s second leading scorer in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Missing Kirk Hinrich? With all due respect to the smart and tough veteran point guard (and we do miss him at times), his absence might have actually been the best thing that could have happened to the Hawks, in some ways.

 

Now it’s On!

It’s good that the Hawks know what to do now, they just have to keep doing it. It’s even okay if they think they’ve arrived, because they have. What’s important is that they know where they’ve arrived – at the heart of the battlefield, not the Promised Land. With the series tied at two games apiece and shifting back to Chicago, both teams are under pressure. The Bulls don’t want to fall down in front of their fans at home. Meanwhile, the Hawks have to prove that their Game 1 win was not a “surprise victory” against Chicago. This is when teams have to dig deep and the competition is fierce.

The Hawks travel into enemy territory on Tuesday, where there will be very few friendly faces in the crowd (if any). Can they take the Bull by the horns? Can they continue to play the way they have to see is the only way to win?

 

 

Big Ray, Hawks Fan Nest Blog

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Swingman912

May 9th, 2011
7:23 pm

Swingman912

May 9th, 2011
7:25 pm

Swingman912

May 9th, 2011
7:34 pm

My fellow bloggers, wat will Teague’s nickname be? Ironically, his initials are JET, and his speed reflects such, but aren’t there too many of those already? I’m goin wit JT 0!

Mr.Phil

May 9th, 2011
7:35 pm

win! win now arrggggggghhhhhh.

O'Brien

May 9th, 2011
7:40 pm

From the previous blog;

AJ, mykhalc,

Remember, most of Randolp’s struggles was when he was with the Portland Jail Blazers. Since he got the change of scenery to Memphis, he has improved, and become more consistent. Maybe a change of scenery (or a coach who commands more respect) will do Josh some good.

But I dont see Rick trading Josh. Rick has been very conservative, and I think he would not want to take the chance of trading Josh only to see him develop into an All-Star.

mykhalc

May 9th, 2011
7:53 pm

@O’B…and I think he would not want to take the chance of trading Josh only to see him develop into an All-Star.

yep…that is the prevailin’ fear when it comes to Josh. without a lot of thought into this at the moment, i think gettin’ rid of Marvin would satisfy me that the franchise is makin’ the NECESSARY changes to improve the team…take the next step. and i don’t think Jamal will be re-signed either. like others, i think Kirk should step into that role. not as prolific as Jamal, no doubt. but can he give this team 12-15pts per nite??? i think so. Kirk can create his own shot plus break the defense down…again not JC style but in his own way. but he can bring positive results IMHO.

and yeah i agree…i doubt they move Josh.

O'Brien

May 9th, 2011
8:17 pm

Big Ray,

The problem with these Hawks is just when you think they have turned the corner, they make a U-Turn.

I assume LD will start the big lineup tomorrow night. If we are even with the Bulls early (or have the lead), Hawks will play well (imo). But if Rose gets 2 quick fouls on Twin, and makes a couple shots early, Hawks could just as easily lose by 20.

I just hope all the players remember what worked well last night, and stick with it.

leo

May 9th, 2011
8:18 pm

I hope they are ready because we will all be watching and pulling for them to pull off a feet no one expected them to be in position to do. I believe in them if no one else does.

Go Hawks!!!

O'Brien

May 9th, 2011
8:21 pm

mykhalc,

Marvin has 3 years, $22.5 mil left on his his salary. Therefore, I think he is almost untradeable, since we dont have a draft pick to offer, and we would not want to take back a longer term contract.

I doubt the Hawks bring back Jamal for 2 reasons. We are already at $64 mil for next season, and I think some team out there will pay more than we will to make Jamal their starting SG.

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O'Brien

May 9th, 2011
8:27 pm

From MC’s new blog;

Smoove hears what you are saying when he winds up for Js. More on that from Josh: “I’ve been a pretty good perimeter shooter this whole season. If people have been here all season they know I’ve done it all year. People who are here for the special times don’t understand.”.

What is he talking about? nire, you might need to send him his jumpers update for the season. he started off well, but he cooled off dramatically as the season went on.

This guy just does not get it (imo).

jlewis

May 9th, 2011
8:34 pm

Big Ray:

I think you are right on about JJ, plus, that guy has played some hella defense in the playoffs. People just forget how all around good that guy is, except for the other teams, that’s why he always commands the double team.

Astro Joe

May 9th, 2011
9:43 pm

OB, from the last blog. Man, I hopenot. There would be no shame if Smith became an All-Star, as long as the player acquired helps the hawksgo further than before. The goal should be advancing in the playoffs. Goodness knows that our 2 All Stars have not always been big in the post-season so some mid-year achievemnt really is meaningless in May/June.

My money is on Miami to win this OT game tonight.

Swingman912

May 9th, 2011
9:45 pm

Smoove is going to be Smoove, but even if he gives us a fraction of what he did in game 4, I’d be happy. Al’s jump shot will start to fall. As long as Joe and Jamal require a double, and they make the right pass out of the double, other players will get open looks. Teague will continue to get to the paint, and as long as we take good shots, we can beat this team!

doc

May 9th, 2011
9:52 pm

LD:

L.D. on another benefit of the Twin lineup: “Asking Josh to defend Noah at times, he’s much taller and much longer. It’s a tough assignment for him. Having him go against guy like Boozer who is real physical is also tough. Another physical body has been good for us. It frees up Al and Josh up to a certain extent.”

been saying this for weeks about the bulls bigs.glad he sees it and will make some effort to change the outcome around the basket. no way he can back track into the other line up. we were being destroyed underneath and down under why it took him so long to see it.

problem tomorrow is getting that kind of efficiency out of jj we saw sunday without him losing interest and still working it inside for scores.

celts may be done folks.

mykhalc

May 9th, 2011
9:57 pm

i hate the Celts…not that it matters LOL

doc

May 9th, 2011
10:13 pm

do you like the heat and queen more myk?

i dont.

Redneck Hawk

May 10th, 2011
12:03 am

The Miami-Boston series is a “Can They Both Lose?” kind of situation. If we can somehow cement our good play and beat the Bulls, it’s at least encouraging to know that anybody living in a city not named Miami will have our back!

Big Ray

May 10th, 2011
12:13 am

O’brien ,

The time for “developing into” is over for me at 7 years. Josh can earn his way to all-star, but we see him for what he is. The only thing that holds him back is his mental state, and it’s the only thing that can get him there as well.

If Sund (or Gearon) fears Josh becoming an all-star when moving elsewhere, then they don’t know much about basketball. Either that, or they should have thought about hiring a different coach. A totally different one.

Big Ray

May 10th, 2011
12:17 am

swingman912 ,

Actually that’s the problem in a nutshell. Smith does tend to give us a fraction of what he should be doing. If that fraction is 3/4 or higher, we’ll probably be alright. Once it gets lower than that, there tends to be more problems than this team can overcome with him on the floor.

The issue is that we should be able to survive that by doing something like subbing Marvin back in, so we don’t lose athletic ability and scoring potential. However, Marvin doesn’t give us much confidence of that, and we’re back to playing with Smith’s schizophrenic tendencies.

Man, I just wish he would get over the perimeter game. If all he took was 3 perimeter shots per game, I’d be cool with that. How can he NOT see the results of what he did last night, and how that’s what helps this team win, not his perimeter prowess (such that it is)???

Big Ray

May 10th, 2011
12:25 am

Jlewis ,

JJ has been pretty strong in the playoffs. He’s still this team’s best player. ‘Nuff said.

mykhalc ,

Like I said to O’Brien…management need not fear Josh becoming an all-star elsewhere. Where’s the logic in this thought process? If they’re worried about that, then they should have reasons for worrying, right? Ok, if that’s the case, then they should know what it takes for him to be an all-star here , right?

1) Is it scoring opportunity? I think not. Josh never complains about not having the ball enough, and Lord knows the man will do as he pleases with the basketball. So it can’t be scoring, right? For argument’s sake though, let’s say it is. If that’s the case, you have to make Josh the #1 offensive option. Now who wants to do that, eh?

2) If it’s coaching, then the ASG could have fixed this already. If Josh simply needs a different type of coach, then they should have hired somebody besides dear ol’ Uncle Larry. Once again, the problem is fixable. Right?

3) What else could it be? Does Josh play in the wrong kind of offense? If so, then once again…hire a different coach with a different approach. Come up with a different offensive scheme.

The issue of Josh becoming an all-star after being traded away is moot and unimportant. What’s important is whether or not the he can be an all-star here, and if he can’t, then what’s the sense in keeping him just for the sake of not letting him do it elsewhere? The truth is, Josh won’t be an all-star until he plays to his strengths. When he does that, this team is stronger than ever. When he doesn’t, it makes things tough for the team.

Somehow we survived his play against Orlando. And game 4 just showed that if he doesn’t play right against Chicago, we’ll likely lose. If he does, we could go to the ECF.

JSS

May 10th, 2011
1:29 am

“It’s ON!”

Gamer

May 10th, 2011
2:45 am

THE HAWKS FOCUSING ON WINNING GAME 5, GUARANTEES THE HAWKS A GAME 7(IF NECESSARY)!!!!

AS MUHAMMAD ALI WOULD SAY,,ROPER DOPE TIME!!!!

HAWKS ARE IN A GOOD SCENARIO GOING INTO CHICAGO….WITH A WIN IN THE WINDY CITY FOR GAME 5, THE HAWKS COULD CLOSE IT OUT AT HOME IN GAME 6…

WITH A LOSS IN GAME 5, THE HAWKS GOT GAME 6 AT HOME TO FORCE A GAME 7….BASICALLY THE HAWKS IS POSITIONED TO RIDE WAVES OF MOMENTUM FOR REMAINDER OF THIS SERIES…AS LONG AS THE PLAYERS DON’T LAY AN EGG BY HAVING MENTAL LAPSES OF WHAT GOT THEM TO THIS POINT…..

WHICH IS SMART PLAYS, HUSTLE PLAYS AND TRUSTING THEIR TEAM-MATES ABILITIES…WITH EACH PLAYER PERFORMING TO HIS ABILITIES THEN THERE IS NO REASON WHY THE HAWKS CAN’T MARCH INTO EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS!!!

Willie Coyote

May 10th, 2011
7:33 am

Josh, the people who watch you all year ARE the ones groaning when you wind up a jumper. The casual fans don’t even know the starting 5 much less who should and shouldn’t take jumpers.

People in this town WANT you to be our 3-man for years to come. Play inside, cut to the basket, fill the lanes, and work the boards and you will be considered one of the most dangerous players in the league. Just because you’re open for a jumper doesn’t automatically mean you can’t still drive in closer for a floater or an assist. Playing like that will make you better and it makes the team better.

Seriously, if this team can pick up a starting center, a shooter off the bench, and another key acquisition, what’s to say we can’t be the Eastern Conference version of the Mavericks?

Side Note: Troy Murphy is a free agent. I wonder if it’s possible to get him to back-up Al.

O'Brien

May 10th, 2011
7:46 am

Boston had 3 offensive rebounds last night in 53 minutes of play. 3. And in OT, Bosh had a key tip in. I wonder if Boston could have used Kendrick Perkins last night.

O'Brien

May 10th, 2011
8:00 am

Having watched OKC more in the playoffs, I question their coach and their PG a little more now. I don’t think Westbrook and the coaching staff is doing as good a job as they should getting Durrant more touches.

O'Brien

May 10th, 2011
8:23 am

Although I think Josh is a more talented PF than Al, I would be in favor of trading him if the right deal can be found. Can Rick find the right deal, though?

Is there a sign and trade out there? Is there an existing player we could trade for? I think it will be a very uneventful off season due to the impending lockout though.

Lacsho

May 10th, 2011
8:31 am

Big Ray, I knew all along Teague could do this. I’ve been screaming this from day one. Me and the Family really enjoyed the game Sunday. Phillips was off the chain, and the eye cand was priceless.

Peace,

Sho

vava74

May 10th, 2011
9:07 am

Let’s make a wager on the number of long jumpers Josh will launch tonight and the number of misses off those jumpers:

I’ll start: 8 but he will hit 5.

He is bound to break out of his slump and have one of those 2 games out of 10 in which his shot is good.

But my guess is that we will lose by double digits tonight.

In game 4 CHI did not bring their overalls and we did. I expect a much much much more hardworking CHI team tonight and, as SVG said, we tough when we get up but once we get down…

oldmike

May 10th, 2011
9:09 am

Don’t usually comment here. But love this blog!!! Worst part of Tegaue’s explosion as a dynamic option in the lineup is the cost it extracted. He should have been playing all year. Then we would still have JC2 around and the draft pick. Bibby could have been traded for a pair of used overalls. Have you watched his play in the Heat/Boston series. What is he doing on the floor anyway? Now is the time for the Hawks to shut up and deliver. If they know how to win then do it. Time to slip back is over and done. Grab game 5 by the throat and win ugly. Go HAWKS!!!

Lacsho

May 10th, 2011
9:26 am

Exactly Old Mike, Exactly

doc

May 10th, 2011
9:38 am

bibby couldnt even take a one armed rondo out early. sad. got out scored too.

old mike we would not acted as desperate if teague had been played is my contention. anyway, this organization does not value draft picks as they cost too much is my contention for the “promise” they might bring. they are expensive and we sold one last year and essentially gave one away this year to avoid the guaranteed contract that comes with them. still amazed we spent 500k to free up pape sy from france when we could have gotten another vet and vet pay and had the league pay half. that seems to be more the “style” of this organization.

the new collective bargain is going to change things and maybe make it more interesting to keep draft picks. we will see while we wait for nba basketball to gear up again. it may be a long wait so enjoy it while it is here. i am already starting to get some withdrawal as the teams narrow and less info is out there on the sport. soon games will not be on every night or just one. last monday i really sorta freaked when there wasnt any games on in the middle of the playoffs. heh heh

doc

May 10th, 2011
9:38 am

bibby couldnt even take a one armed rondo out early. sad. got out scored too.

old mike we would not acted as desperate if teague had been played is my contention. anyway, this organization does not value draft picks as they cost too much is my contention for the “promise” they might bring. they are expensive and we sold one last year and essentially gave one away this year to avoid the guaranteed contract that comes with them. still amazed we spent 500k to free up pape sy from france when we could have gotten another vet and vet pay and had the league pay half. that seems to be more the “style” of this organization.

the new collective bargain is going to change things and maybe make it more interesting to keep draft picks. we will see while we wait for nba basketball to gear up again. it may be a long wait so enjoy it while it is here. i am already starting to get some withdrawal as the teams narrow and less info is out there on the sport. soon games will not be on every night or just one. last monday i really sorta freaked when there wasnt any games on in the middle of the playoffs. heh heh

vava74

May 10th, 2011
9:41 am

the sad thing about this whole story (NBA) is that:

- the 3 stooges will win the title;
- and with them Mr. Used Overalls Bibby will win it as well… even if only whilst averaging 3ppg and shooting .226 from 3 point land…

Astro Joe

May 10th, 2011
10:14 am

Josh is “keeping it real”. Despite the criticism from every corner of the globe, he hasnot suggested that he is going to stop shooting those perimeter shots. He is at least speaking like a defiant child that simply refuses to concede a point.

Back to the All-Star thing, there are different types of ALl-Stars. I’m pretty sure that David West was an All-Star. Rashard Lewis was an All-Star. Kevin Willis was an All-Star. None of those guys compare to other All-Stars like Amare, Paul Pierce or ‘Nique… guys that you expect to see at each and every ASG (injuries excepted). It would be hard to see Josh ripping off that kind of consistent All-Star level performance given the number of talented and high-profile forwards in the league. If he were traded to the other conference, he would not likely be voted ahead of Durant and Blake Griffin. Could he squeeze a spot on the bench that would include Dirk, Gasol, Z-Bo, Aldridge and Kevin Love? In the East, we’re only talking about Melo, Amare, KG, Pierce, LeBron & Bosh. So my guess is that while Josh could be an All-Star (like David West), it seems far-fetched that he sees a run of 3-4 consecutive All-Star appearances.

O'Brien

May 10th, 2011
10:38 am

vava,

I think Josh will take 6 long jumpers, and 2 three pointers. He will be 0-2 from 3, and 2-6 on the others (imo).

AJ,

I don’t see Josh making it to the ASG for 2 or 3 years. By then, KG and Pierce will be on the steep downside and on the way out, whereas Josh will only be 28. But I don’t think we can afford to wait on him.

What adjustments will Thibs make tonight? And how will LD counter? Although I think LD comes up with a good plan prior to the game, I haven’t been as impressed with his adjustments during the game.

Therefore, I hope he has a plan in mind already for when Thibs and Rose counteracts our game 4 strategy.

oldmike

May 10th, 2011
10:41 am

If the 3 stooges win the title will they be excited? Will anyone be excited. What is the “wow factor” for them winning. I can see if the Mavs win there is a wow factor. The team was built piece by piece with trades and the like. I happen to think this may be their year. A much better story than the 3 stooges winning anything. By the way Celts must be ill from having given away Perkins and other pieces for the promise of a broken down Shaq contributing. He looks even worse than the Bibster. Somethign was missing from their game last night although it may be the dreaded “father time” catching up with them at crunch time!!!

Astro Joe

May 10th, 2011
11:07 am

At this point, Stern has to be cheering for his darling Thunder to make it to the Finals. Durant against Rose or Miami is about as good as he can get now. I think Stern would rather see Memphis in it than see Mark Cuban in front of a mic everytime he turns on the TV. Meanwhile, I heard speculation that the NBA owners are re-thinking their hard-line stance in light of the NFL owners taking some body blows in the past few weeks. Kind of interesting because the NFL owners aren’t losing a red penny while the same cannot be said in the NBA. If any set of owners needs to demand true labor reform, it should be Gearon and his peers.

Melvin

May 10th, 2011
11:30 am

I can understand folks criticizing Josh for his jumpers and lackadaisical play at times but what about Al Horford? Al has not performed at an All-Star level in these playoffs as well. If anything, I think the playoffs has exposed Al game. He’s not that great of a defender nor does he have any post moves. AL is very mechanical and I don’t see him developing “go-to” post moves (but I could be wrong). I think we all were excited about his hustling and warrior attitude his first 2-3 seasons in a Hawks uniform but outside of his mid-range shot, his game has seem to regress. His on and off court persona is better than Josh but I will not deem him as the cornerstone or untouchable on this team. Just like Josh, if the right deal comes along I would trade him as well.

bfred

May 10th, 2011
11:42 am

Stern will eat a bullet if it’s a Hawks-Mavs final.

At this point the only teams the NBA wants to see in are Miami or Chicago (Celts would have been okay but they’re cooked) and the OKC Durants. Stern has hung the league’s hat on marketing star power – what will he do if there are no superstars in the finals? Heaven forbid a couple of balanced teams make it.

vava74

May 10th, 2011
12:12 pm

OB,

“Although I think LD comes up with a good plan prior to the game, I haven’t been as impressed with his adjustments during the game.”

So true. So true.

LD has been horrible within games, IMO, giving away games 2 and 3 by not going with the hustle guys (Zaza, Wilkins and Collins) and when we needed to amp up our aggression levels.

Daddy Long Long

May 10th, 2011
12:50 pm

Swingman, I really like M-V-Teague after seeing someone with this on Sunday. I can rest knowing we FINALLY have a true point guard in the A-Town. Legggooo…lololol

Also, one thing I NEVER want to see again in Phlips Arena is a guy by the last name Wilkins missing a dunk! Get on him about that Uncle Nique!!

no justice

May 10th, 2011
12:55 pm

You guys are taking “flogging a dead horse” to another level. I’m beginning to think that there’re some jealousy going on here. Some of you must be thinking,” if I had that kind of talent it would be different” right? You’re probably thinking, why can’t it be me” right? WELL IT AIN’T YOU, IT’S JOSH SMITH so watch him, cheer for them tonight and go bed and maybe, just maybe in your dreams you will be lucky enough to become J Smoove for a fleeting moment. Not the loser that you wake up with every morning.

Blue

May 10th, 2011
1:02 pm

.
With the win and the Hawks spirited effort. With Josh’s unbelievably heady play and all-star caliber performance. With Jeff Teague’s continued dominant performance, we all FORGOT to discuss one of the BIGGEST moments in Game 4.

When JOE JOHNSON literally BROKE KEITH BOGAN’S ANKLES. That was a sick move that Joe put on that cat. I really didn’t think Joe had it in him to handle the rock like that. I actually felt bad for that kid Bogans.

Astro Joe

May 10th, 2011
1:04 pm

O'Brien

May 10th, 2011
1:05 pm

vava,

The same adjustment he made on Rose for game 4 should have been made at halftime of game 3, when Rose had already scored 21 points. But LD seems like the guy who can’t adjust on the fly. Another adjustment would have been to start Twin in the second half of game 3. Why wait until game 4?

Melvin,

Al has been a big disappointment too. But I think one reason why folks get on Josh is because he has been doing this for 7 years. Also, with Josh, his issues seem to be mostly mental, and should be easily correctible.

There are some limitations to his game, but Al’s biggest issue mentally is his timidness (not lack of focus). As for his defense, Al did get 7 votes (including 3 for frst team) for All-NBA defense (more votes than Josh).

That being said, nobody on the Hawks should be untouchable.

Rod from College Park

May 10th, 2011
1:09 pm

Melvin,

My thoughts exactly on Horford. Who has had a better playoffs, Al or Josh? He’s not hitting the jumper because he is not playing center, and 4’s are able to get out past the free throw line and check him. He can’t hit that shot with a hand in his face, he can’t dribble drive, he is very mechanical, and has no post moves at all. His defense at the rim is vey bad. I have not seen him block any point guards drive to the rim in 2 seasons. He is good on the boards, but has brought nothing to the playoffs this year except rebounding. He did have a good game on Sunday, but Josh was the one who got him going with those excellent dimes.

Astro Joe

May 10th, 2011
1:10 pm

no justice, I don’t want to be Josh Smith. I don’t want to walk to the copier machine and have all of my co-workers yell “nooooo”. I’m fine being me, someone who doesn’t intentionally do wrong in a misguided attempt to prove others wrong.

Rod from College Park

May 10th, 2011
1:12 pm

Let’s all remember Al is the All Star, not Josh.

no justice

May 10th, 2011
1:27 pm

Do you agree you are “flogging a dead horse”? After repeating a similar idea one thosand time is a bit over done, yes?