Teague’s time may have finally come

Go ahead. Say “I told you so.” Two games is a small sample, but second year man Jeff Teague may finally have seen his ship come in. With the trade of Mike Bibby to the Washington Wizards, along with the arrival of veteran point guard Kirk Hinrich, many of us wondered if Jeff Teague’s “role” with the Hawks was going to change or not. So far, it has, and in semi-dramatic fashion.

Here Comes “The Pest”

It was kind of hard sometimes, watching Jeff Teague play in spurts in the early season. He would come onto the court and show that he had another gear beyond everyone else in some games. In others, he played like he knew he would be yanked within two minutes. Where was the consistency? At the same time, the same could be asked of Head Coach Larry Drew, who would compliment Teague after a good game, then inexplicably assign him a DNP or play him in spare, all but useless minutes. Stop me if you’ve heard this one before….

It seemed that Larry Drew had embraced the idea of going with shooting and offense first, rather than speed and harassing defense. Speaking of which, last night’s game against a talented Golden State backcourt was a pretty good testament to how bothersome Teague can be to opposing point guards. It’s not like hasn’t shown flashes of this ability before, but the starting role and extended minutes (he played over 25 this time) were a confirmation of sorts. In case you think this is just a case of home cooking with local media, you need to check out some particular notes on the game from a more national perspective. On a side note, I would encourage everybody to take note of some interesting comments from Al Horford within that same article.

The Chicken vs The Egg…and Promises, Promises

Before we get too excited about the early success of Jeff Teague’s new (and possibly temporary) role, we have to recall that it has only been two games, one of which was a loss (though that loss can’t be blamed on Teague, per se). Can we expect a consistent performance out of him from the defensive end, and to continue to push the pace on offense? Will he defer if he’s in the game with Jamal, or is that simply a lineup issue that is solely Larry Drew’s responsibility? Is the future rotation at point guard forming itself before our very eyes, or is this just another flash in the pan?

Obviously, this calls Larry Drew’s past decisions into question. One quote from the above link may be condemning in some ways, depending on interpretation:

QUOTABLE II: “I’m not concerned about whether he makes or misses shots. . . . The biggest threat [from] him is when he utilizes his speed and his quickness, and when he harasses people defensively. That’s two straight games where I’ve thought he’s done a really good job with his energy.”
– Larry Drew on Teague.

 

Okay, that’s also two straight games where Teague has had the opportunity to prove that he can do these things that Drew claims he wants, during times in the game when it will actually matter. Did Drew have reason to believe Teague could not do this before? Was the playing time he gave Teague adequate to prove the argument in either direction?  Some feel that Larry Drew would have never given Jeff Teague this chance if the trade had not occurred. Drew says he doesn’t care about Teague hitting shots. Something doesn’t seem right here, but is that even important now?

Here is the last and most obvious set of questions – will Larry Drew continue to give Jeff Teague significant minutes during games (as in 20 mpg or more)? Will he revert to using Jamal in tandem with Kirk Hinrich if Teague has rough games?

That remains to be seen, but for now, it seems like Teague’s time may have finally come.

 

Big Ray, Hawks Fan Nest

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E43

February 26th, 2011
6:34 am

LD just has to give Teague some burn.He has no excuses because before it was Bibby and mo messing up the rotation for Teague. 20mins plus I’m not so sure but I wont be surprised if he takes up Mo’s consistent 14ish MPG.

E43

February 26th, 2011
6:34 am

E43

February 26th, 2011
6:40 am

Id like to thank my mama. love u mama. my dad my grandpa and my grandma.I cant forget my brothers and sisters either. I also like to thank Ryan Cameron for yelling threeeeee all the time. I also would like to take this opportunity to welcome the Kirkster AKA the Hinrich maneuver. We gon love you out here in Atlanta. o yah shout out to my old high school coach. Thank you…

DirtyBraveHawk

February 26th, 2011
7:54 am

Teauge just needs to be given a chance. That’s the only way we’ll see if this guy has any sort of potential. LD sometimes has those Woody tendencies when it comes to developing young talent. Teauge will always give you solid man D and penetration. And quite frankly, that’s all I want from him. He doesn’t have to be Chris Paul or D. Will. If he can be a Rondo-type, I’d be fine with that. Give the man a solid 25 minutes a game then we can reach a verdict by the end of the season…

Casey Fouls Out

February 26th, 2011
7:59 am

At least for 1 game the Hawks looked better against a good guard combo.We all know the talent is there; it’s just a matter of whether they want to play. A lot depends on our guards leading the defense, which hasn’t been happening.

Stevedave

February 26th, 2011
7:59 am

What game are you watching? JT is quick as bleep, but that’s about it. He turns the ball over constantly, is too small to defend power pgs, and is almost 0 threat to score from the outside. He’s being played out of necessity, because our awesome Gm decided to give up this years 1st rounder (Crawford) and next years for a top 50 guard in the league. Way to go sund. Protect the #5 seed. Also love when sund was on 680 today that he hopes to “steal one or 2 games” on a Bleeping 7 game road trip. He’s approaching the next 3 years like I did my first semester of college…mediocrity being a win.

Stevedave

February 26th, 2011
8:09 am

And in the wake of JTs time “finally coming”
6pts, 2rebs, 6asst, 3TOs.
Can’t wait for what the future holds vs someone other than the golden showers.

wordsmithtom

February 26th, 2011
8:24 am

Stevedave,
6 dimes in 25 minutes is hardly chopped liver. We don’t need him to score; we need him to push, dish and defend.

E43,
Addition by subtraction. Give Teague Mo’s minutes. Kirk gives a no nonsense toughness this team really needs. Armstrong’s a tough guy too. We moved softness for toughness. Wins for me.

Kirk will probably be a better mentor for Teague as he has provided this role in Chicago and Wash. He’s a PRO. He has also been a winner, as the guys in Kansas.

FWIW, can you see Kirk running point and Josh standing outside expecting the ball for those limp azz 3’s. Not going to happen. Get you butt down low if you want the rock…..

This team got a lot better. Adding toughness and sending away the pillowcases.

Nate D

February 26th, 2011
9:33 am

THis still is a horrible trade, but start Teague instead of Hinrich. I MISS BIBBY!

Rufus1

February 26th, 2011
9:58 am

Great write-up Big Ray…

A person on the other blog said we got 2 new guards in the trade….Teague and Hinrich. We will not face a better Guard tandem this year and their defense was great. I sad it before, I will say it again, we are better than the Magic….and we may now be as good as every team in the east.

Astro Joe

February 26th, 2011
10:18 am

Great defensive performance last night. I’m not sure that a Hinrich/Teague PG combo will produce eye-poppoing stats, their contribution has to be observed during the game. Teague is clearly a work in progress… tremendous speed but struggles to finish close to the rim. He can get there but he still has problems converting. But if those two (Hinrich/Teague) can take a shutdown CB approach to defending the opposing PG, they will hugely impact the team’s success.

ET

February 26th, 2011
10:23 am

Wow, this is the closest to first I’ve ever come…Yeah, I know, I’m a loser…

vava74

February 26th, 2011
10:33 am

Good to hear someone who knows what it takes:

““I think we could be,” Hinrich said. “If we defend and make that a trademark of ours, with the versatility of our lineups and our length we can be a very tough team to beat.”

They should print this stuff and put it in a banner on the locker room.

LionHearted

February 26th, 2011
10:41 am

LD is a fool. We wasted so many games playing Bibby over Teague.

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
10:47 am

Now could you imagine if we had signed Shaq and not Boston?

And could you imagine if we had signed Dampier and not Miami?

We would currently be the team to beat, with Chitown in the East, and maybe for the whole shootin’ match.

Could you imagine a team with:

Shaq
Horford
Josh
JJ
Hinrich

As starters, and:

Teague
Dampier
Jamal
Marvin

Off the bench? Maybe Sund should listen to some of his blog people. Folks on here could have built him a championship this year, and still saved ASG money.

Bring Shaq in. Wine and dine him. Show him you want him worse than any other team, and I think he still may sign with you for the vet min. or at least the Two Exception. Then your only a few hundred grand over Luxury Tax if any.

Man, what could’ve been.

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
10:49 am

stevedave – You forgot the 3 steals

RM

February 26th, 2011
10:56 am

I liked what little I saw last night from Hinrich. He’s a definite upgrade over Bibby IMO. I really liked his hustle and ball skills. And, he actually plays Defense.

niremetal

February 26th, 2011
11:08 am

Ray,

I think Teague definitely has had opportunities. When you’re a young player, you can’t expect to get 20mpg just to see how you do. You have to show what you can do in 10 minutes and go from there. That really shouldn’t be an issue with the main thing we needed from Teague – defense. You don’t need to be in a rhythm to move your feet and harass your man defensively. I saw him do that well in about 10% of his appearances as a Hawk. That’s just not enough to warrant more PT.

I think that the trade lit a fire under Teague’s ass. He might have read between the lines when LD came up to him and realized that while the trade for Kirk wasn’t a signal that his window had closed, it might be a signal that it won’t be open much longer. So far, he’s responded. He needs to keep it up, though, because the Hawks truly do not have the luxury to wait for him to come around anymore. I honestly think that if the Hawks don’t make a playoff breakthrough this year, a bigger shake-up in the offseason is likely, and Teague could find himself going the way of Acie.

D.McGourty

February 26th, 2011
11:50 am

Damion Wilkins is going to get Mo’s minutes, and once Kirk figures things out Teague will be back to under 10 minutes a game.

niremetal

February 26th, 2011
11:53 am

Josh’s jumpers watch update:

vs. LAL: 1-7 (0-2 on 3s)
vs. Pho: 6-13 (1-3 on 3s)
vs. GS: 5-10 (1-2 on 3s)

Total: 12-30 (2-7 on 3s)
FG%: .400
eFG%: .433
eFG% vs. season avg: +.001
vs. ’09-’10 avg: +.148

niremetal

February 26th, 2011
11:56 am

On Josh’s non-jumpers, he is 12-15 over the past 3 games from the field (.800 FG%). He’s shot exactly twice as many jumpers as non-jumpers, while shooting exactly half as well from the field on jumpers as compared to non-jumpers.

ATL FAN

February 26th, 2011
12:37 pm

Please don’t go back to Jamal at point… no more!!

dap01

February 26th, 2011
1:13 pm

Teague in tandem with Kirk is so much better than Bibby and jamal at point.

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
2:42 pm

Earlier in the season, Teague was inconsistent, and even struggled sometimes playing with the second unit. However, LD was also inconsistent with the way he handled Teague.

Maybe the trade lit a fire under Teague (and it should). But how do we know that if LD had given Teague more minutes with the starters earlier in the season, that Teague wouldnt have been further along by now?

I know that wouldnt have been ideal, but even leading up to the break, Bibby was struggling on offense and defense, Jamal was struggling at the backup PG, and the Hawks were losing. LD talked about tinkering with the lineup, changing things up etc. And not once did it cross his mind to try Teague with the starters (instead of playing him with Jamal,ZaZa, and another bench player)?

I know Teague didn’t earn it, but despertate times call for desparate measures.

So now, LD was forced to start him because of the trade (whether he wanted to or not), and Teague has shown signs of improvement. Teague still has alot of learning to do, and he did not make the most of the opportunity he had earlier in the season.

But given Bibby’s and the team’s struggles, I think LD deserves some of the blame for not finding other ways to help Teague contribute.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 26th, 2011
2:43 pm

Maybe you don’t hand Teague the starting job because of this, but he has emphatically earned a spot in the rotation. No excuse at this point not to find 20 minutes per game for him. None. Take some minutes from Jamal and give them to Teague if necessary.

The Teague Party Movement is in full effect.

Oh yeah, and how does everyone feel about Smoove for Steph Curry and Biedrins now? LMAO

Ken Strickland

February 26th, 2011
2:47 pm

STEVEDAVE-Considering your sarcastic comments about Teague’s stat line, and you conveniently omitted his 3 steals, I guess you’d prefer the 0PT’s, 0AST’s, 0FT’s, 0STL’s, 1TO and zero DEF that we got from Bibby in his last gm as a Hawk.

NIREMETAL-When your veteran PG is a defensive liability, averages 30MPG, and for the last 2 seasons has regressed to a point where he struggles to produce what would normally be acceptable only for a decent backup PG, I’d say that team can’t afford NOT to give those mins to a much younger PG that can do most of the things the vet can’t do.

Bibby couldn’t start for any other NBA team, and no other team would dare play him 30MPG under any reasonable circumstance. How is Teague expected to show what he can do in 10 very inconsistent mins, when on one hand, LDrew says he wants him to be aggressive and play with wreckless abandon, yet on the other hand, both Teague and his teammates know he’ll get pulled if he makes a mistake while trying to do what his HC insists he wants him to do?

Sounds like a contradiction, along with a lot of lip service to me. Have you noticed how many rookie PG’s have started and done well during their rookie yr, with some becoming All Stars and ROY? That certainly didn’t happen because their teams followed your suggested formula. Of all the PG’s drafted in the 1st rd over the last 7-8yrs and given consistent mins and opportunities to succeed, how many failures can you name?

I think LDrew is playing Teague the way he’s playing him now because he’s been given a mandate by Sund and the ASG. Upon making their decision not to rehire Woodson, they stated how their dissatisfaction over his refusal to play Teague more factored into their decision.

With Drew not being in the final yr of his contract, and with his insistence on relying heavily on Bibby, I think MGT stepped in and got rid of what they felt was the problem and gave LDrew an ultimatum with Teague, along with a new PG.

Drew is now using Teague and Hinrich as our PG’s, and Jamal is now being used as a replacement at SG. I noticed whenever he entered the gm, he either replaced JJ, or Marvin, who would be replaced at SF by JJ.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 26th, 2011
2:56 pm

Also, I think this is common sense, but seeing as how a point guard’s job is to set up his teammates, it should have been obvious that if Teague played with the starters he would look better than he would playing with the abhorrent bench. Needless to say, passes to Joe/Smoove/Al are going to get converted into assists a lot more often than passes to Zaza/Powell/Mo.

He does need to get a lot better at finishing in traffic and shooting off the dribble. But his defense, ability to run the offense, and ability to drive and dish are easily good enough to warrant a spot in the rotation.

Ken Strickland

February 26th, 2011
3:08 pm

OBRIEN-I think the fire was lit under HC LDrew, not Teague. Did you notice that JPowell, another player that was out of Drew’s rotation, also got significant burn? What’s happened to Zaza? Are they still using the excuse of a possible trade to justify a 2nd DNP CD?

Personally, I think the excitement and elevated play we saw last night from all of our players was the result of them knowing ownership had gotten involved and was demanding more than the status quo from LDrew.

niremetal

February 26th, 2011
3:25 pm

Ken/Najeh/etc,

Sorry, but minutes shouldn’t affect Teague’s ability to play D. There’s no excuse for how poor he was at that end. The past two games were the first I’ve seen from him SINCE HE WAS DRAFTED where he was moving his feet consistently on defense. And he did it from the moment he hit the floor both times. So no, I’m sorry, inconsistent minutes were not his problem earlier. If he had shown an ounce of ability to defend, then maybe. But he didn’t. He gave us NOTHING in the minutes he was in. Bibby couldn’t defend, but at least gave us the ability to knock down open shots, take care of the ball, and run an occasional pick-and-roll. Teague couldn’t do any of those things. So unless he was a practice superstar, there was no reason to play him on a playoff-bound team. None.

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
3:29 pm

nire,

Bibby couldn’t defend, but at least gave us the ability to knock down open shots, take care of the ball, and run an occasional pick-and-roll..

True. but even in games when he wasn’t doing those things, LD still played him 26-30 minutes, and still wouldnt play Teague.

Ken S,

I dont think LD was given an ultimatum to play Teague. i think once Bibby was traded, and Hinrich wasn’t here yet, LD ws forced to play Teague against Phoenix. And in that game, Teague played well enough to earn more minutes against GS. And last night, he played well enough to earn more PT going forward.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

February 26th, 2011
3:42 pm

I look to the Hawks as a guilty pleasure or avoidance mechanism (escapism) to the reality of lies and double speak of politics. I didn’t not expect so much double speak and politicking from LD. He did not want to break up the bureaucracy of Bibby and the apparent silly lull he had over a maturing Hawks squad. A virtual ‘good ol boys network’ of Bibby, Zaza and Mo Evan was evident and it stunk up Phillips Arena and other arenas. Forget breaking up the core, LD refused to allow anyone to break into that TURRIBLE triumvirate that produced nothing but shame – no matter what positives they brought to the table. Recall LD saying before the All-Star break that his rotation was set for the 2nd half and playoffs; meaning Wilkins, Teague and JC2 would be regularly glued to the pine like resin to a baseball bat. Now he says that he has never given up on Teague. Please dude, save the booboo for your face because if Teague keeps it up and really develops into something nice – it’d be in spite of you, Drew.
He is a master of double speak but not one of player rotations and motivating influence to developing talents. Play the youngster!

The Real Hawk

February 26th, 2011
4:15 pm

Way too tentative last night. Did not demand the ball from his team to start
plays. Got to be more assertive.

Mike is back

February 26th, 2011
6:23 pm

Big Ray, great read on Teague…the young fellow has a ways to go…however, he looked more than capable of handling additional minutes at the PG…whether he starts or not. For the most part, he played under control…his ability to finish at the rack will improve with increased PT…a lot of those missed layup…will be dunks!!!

We may have struck Gold with captain Kirk Hinrich …he should be a breath of fresh air for these guys…love the way he was working the ref last night… dude came out and played like he had been with the entire season.

Astro Joe

February 26th, 2011
6:39 pm

Najeh, I’d do that trade in a nano-second.

niremetal

February 26th, 2011
6:55 pm

O’B,

Why is it that you seem to think that because a player doesn’t do something well early in the game, it’s a signal he won’t do something well for the rest of the game either? Basketball doesn’t work that way. Players often start cold and get hot.

And before you say “well, Teague never gets the chance to play through his mistakes.” Yeah, well guess what? That’s what young players selected outside the lottery have to deal with, especially on playoff teams. Bibby has a track record of being a reliable player late in games. Teague does not. There isn’t one damned coach in the NBA whose team is playoff-bound who doesn’t give veterans WAY more leeway than young players without a track record.

Veterans get to play through their mistakes. Young players do not. Teague pretty much never made the most of the minutes he got. Thus, he rode the pine. And that’s what he’ll keep doing for the rest of his career if he can’t make more out of the 10-12 minutes a game he gets.

doc

February 26th, 2011
6:58 pm

a line up i could apreciate is teague if ths keeps up; with hinrich, jj, jish and al. defense, speed with severe scoring abiity. could be fun to watch some stops for a change.

doc

February 26th, 2011
7:04 pm

bibby is gone hurah eddie house without wheels these days. he can be good for teams over the lux cap just not us. thanks forcwhat you dud for us. in the mean time RIP until resurrected with a contender.

Rusty

February 26th, 2011
7:33 pm

What minutes did jt actually get,ha

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
7:45 pm

nire,

I agree that veterans get to play through their mistakes, and Bibby has a very good reputation of coming through when it matters. But since January, his struggles were getting worse, he said he was tired, and even LD said he looks worn down on film, so clearly Bibby was on the decline.

With that in mind, why not give Teague a chance instead of sticking with the same guys who you’ve been losing with? What’s the worse that would have happened? Hawks lose? They were losing anyway.

But what does LD do? he plays Jamal at backup PG, and only to see Jamal struggle as well. At least Teague would have gotten some experience, and the front office would have a better idea if he is worth keeping this season.

Its like when the starters start the game with no energy and before you know it, thet are down 15 in the first quarter. But what does LD do? he starts the same guys in the second half, only to watch them to continue to struggle.

I know that alot of coaches do it, so its not just LD. But (imo), Bibby would not start for any of the other playoff teams, so why not give Teague a little longer rope to see if he turns it around or hangs himself, especially since LD spoke glowingly about him before the season started?

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
8:10 pm

MC’s tweets;

Drew says “strong possibility” there will be changes to lineup/rotation. No specifics..

Drew has been saying that from before the All-Star game, so its falling on deaf ears. The only change I can think of is Hinrich starting over Teague, which I think is ok since we are playing Miller and Brandon Roy.

Drew on DNP for @zaza27 “Coach’s decision. . . . I wanted to give Josh Powell minutes to see how he would respond” .

Powell had 4 points, 8 rebounds and 3 turnovers in 18 minutes. I wonder if LD was satisfied with what he saw.

And why isnt Hinrich the starter?

Still learning plays. Drew says he will be eventually.

Teague is going to have to play the same way with the bench like he has played with the starters. Can he? Time will tell.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 26th, 2011
8:35 pm

“And before you say “well, Teague never gets the chance to play through his mistakes.” Yeah, well guess what? That’s what young players selected outside the lottery have to deal with, especially on playoff teams.”

Hmm… off the top of my head, Rajon Rondo, George Hill, Gary Neal, Paul Millsap, and Taj Gibson would all disagree. None of those players came in and played well every single time they got minutes right off the bat. The difference is that when they had bad games, the coach didn’t use that as an excuse to bury them on the bench, and they all had defined roles in the rotation that allowed them to make a consistent impact.

Nobody’s saying Teague should have been starting or on the court at crunch time for the last one and a half years. But working him into a regular role in the rotation would not have been that hard, particularly given the pre-trade backcourt’s defensive problems. Sure, Teague hasn’t shown otherworldly defensive ability on a consistent basis, but he has shown better defensive ability than Bibby, enough to where he could have been used in a role as a defensive specialist the way Damien Wilkins gets used in that role at SF. It’s not like Damien has ever been known as a lock down defender before this year. So much of bench players’ success comes from having a defined role, anyway. If Teague was used in a defined role as a defensive specialist, rather than having his minutes jerked around and playing mostly in garbage time without any clear directive on what to focus on while on the court, maybe he would have had more of an impact.

And it’s not like he didn’t have his share of impactful games anyway; pretty much every game in his career in which he has played 20 or more minutes, he has provided a pretty decent looking stat line. Granted, some of those games have come in garbage time, but you can only play the minutes you are allowed to play. At the very least, his production has been no worse than that of the typical backup point guard in the league. Whether he’s the future for the Hawks or not, he’s good enough to be in the rotation and play meaningful minutes.

niremetal

February 26th, 2011
8:59 pm

Hill, Millsap, Gibson, and Neal didn’t play like absolute crap on both ends of the floor when they came into the league, Najeh. In fact they all played pretty damn well, to the point where people were talking them up within a couple months. Neal had the added benefit of 3 solid years playing in one of world’s top 3 overseas leagues. Unlike JT0, they made something of their minutes. And Rondo played on a team that lost 60 games his rookie year, and was getting props for his defense by the end of it.

Next?

superiorblogman

February 26th, 2011
9:00 pm

Finally is the wrong word. Teague is still a rookie in playing time and experience. There were scouts and GM’s that thought Teague would be the best PG in that class in 3 years. If Teague can do 75% of what Jennings did for the Bucks last year before his rookie contract is up. We got a steal, end of story and he will do atleast that.

niremetal

February 26th, 2011
9:10 pm

I’m sorry, but Teague wasn’t merely inconsistent. In fact, he WAS consistent – he was consistently defending with his hands rather than his feet, driving out of control, deferring to Jamal, and generally playing like crap. All the guys you mentioned played better than Teague out of the gate. It’s insane to pretend otherwise.

superiorblogman

February 26th, 2011
9:40 pm

The truth we got another guy on the team that looks like Zaza and some are going to defend this to the end and will never give Teague credit for stepping it up. Teague set the tone against GS and played well against Phoenix. He has been better than Hinrich since the trade.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 26th, 2011
9:59 pm

“Hill, Millsap, Gibson, and Neal didn’t play like absolute crap on both ends of the floor when they came into the league, Najeh. ”

You stated that young players on teams outside the lottery can’t expect to be allowed to play through their mistakes. I offered you four players who played on teams outside the lottery and got a chance to play through their mistakes — look at their rookie game logs, they each had good games and bad games. Whether or not people were talking them up and their quality of play overall isn’t relevant to the fact that their teams were able to allow them to play through mistakes while also winning games.

“And Rondo played on a team that lost 60 games his rookie year, and was getting props for his defense by the end of it. ”

Rondo’s minutes and role on the team also steadily increased as his rookie year went along, despite the fact that his per minute averages that year were quite similar to Teague’s per minute averages last year, and despite the fact that his numbers for the majority of that season were quite mediocre. Yeah, people were talking him up at the end of the season. That couldn’t possibly have anything to do with his role and minutes — and correspondingly his comfort level and confidence — increasing over the course of the season, could it?

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
10:06 pm

Rondo’s rookie season, he got good minutes in November, but although he would show flashes, he was very inconsistent. 19 mpg, 5 ppg, 3 assists and 3 rebs, 2 turnovers game.

His minutes in December was up and down, and so was his play.
13 mpg, 3 ppg, 2 assists, 2 rebs and 1 turnover per game.

January, his minutes went up, but he was still inconsistent.
19 mpg, 6 ppg, 3 assists, 3 rebs and 2 t.o. per game.

In February, I think he became the starter, and that’s when he showed more consistency.
26 mpg, 7 ppg, 5 assists, 4 rebs and 2 turnovers per game.

His March numbers;
30 mpg, 7 ppg, 5 assists, 5 rebs and 2 turnovers per game.

April: 37 mpg, 13 ppg, 6 assists, 6 rebs and 2 turnovers per game.

Rondo was inconsistent early on (including his defense), and so were his minutes. As the season went on, and the Celtics lost more games, Rondo got more minutes and became the starter. That’s when his play really took off.

Obviously, the Hawks are a 50 win team, so it’s hard to justify giving Teague the minutes Rondo got (since Teague was very inconsistent). But if Rondo didn’t get those minutes towards the end of the season, he probably would not have been the player he has turned out to be.

And he might not have been ready to play with the big 3 when the Celtics got him.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3026/year/2007/rajon-rondo/

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
10:24 pm

Jordan got some PT against the Mavericks tonight. 15 minutes, 10 pts, 2 assists, 2 steals, 0 fouls, 0 turnovers.

I hope he gets more minutes in DC.

niremetal

February 26th, 2011
11:25 pm

look at their rookie game logs, they each had good games and bad games.

I watched the actual games, Najeh. The game logs don’t tell much at all of the story, especially on defense. Please.

niremetal

February 26th, 2011
11:28 pm

And you’re ignoring the fact that Rondo played on a 60-loss team that was obviously tanking at the end of his rookie season…why? Oh, because it makes his situation totally irrelevant to that of Teague, who came in to a team that was playing for home-court advantage in the playoffs rather than jockeying for lottery position.

In any case, it’s pretty clear you didn’t watch those guys’ games when they were rookies. Because they all looked way, way better than Teague did from day one. Have fun trying to construct your arguments based on game logs, though.