Hawks fans: Will Rick Sund rock the boat?

According to NBA.com, a little over 6 days and 14 hours remains before the NBA deadline is up. Normally, most Atlanta fans would half-heartedly lament the lack of rumors surrounding the Hawks, or talk of unrealistic trade proposals. Not this year. Since when is a winning record and a mere 1 game out of 4th place in the East cause for such alarm? Since when does a guaranteed playoff spot leave such feelings of gloom and doom?

Do we as Hawks fans not appreciate the team’s 34 victories in 55 tries? Or is it something else?

 

Good teams do this, Good teams do that…

It has gotten to the point where nearly every Atlanta win comes with a handful of caveats. Well, at least if you’re reading the blogs and what not. But it’s not just local fans and media. It’s everywhere. Why? It’s now just about who you beat. It’s also about who you don’t beat. The Hawks may have a better road record this season, but they are 6-13 against teams with winning records. Needless to say (and I’m going to say it anyway), this does not bode well for the postseason. Good teams compete well against other good teams. The Hawks have not done that this season, for the large part. Good teams find a way to overcome injuries to regular rotation players. The Hawks have done that this season. Good teams know their identity and their gameplan. The Hawks act like they can only remember this for a game at a time, and sometimes only for a quarter at a time. Are the Hawks a good team, or simply one with a winning record? Like all things, this is debatable. But it’s going to be hard to argue 6-13. It’s just not what good teams do.

Rumors

As usual, there isn’t much going on out there about the Hawks and who they might like to acquire. The lone bit of noise being made has to do with alleged interest in Cleveland Cavaliers guard Ramon Sessions. It’s hard to see how Sessions would make the Hawks instant or even eventual Eastern Conference Championship contenders, and adding him is a subject of some debate as well. While some stat experts can show that Sessions has issues on defense, could he really be worse than Mike Bibby or Jamal Crawford? Interestingly enough, there isn’t much being said about his offense, which certainly has its moments. The Hawks aren’t likely to get better at the point guard position through trade or free agency, but maybe that’s not the bandaid they should reach for right now. Maybe they should focus on having a guy who can drive the ball to the basket, find his teammates when the defense collapses, and shoot from where he knows how to shoot. Is it the total package? No, certainly not. But with Bibby’s lack of penetration and Jamal’s lack of “makes his teammates better”, maybe the Hawks should settle for solving one problem instead of continuing to strike out on two of them. Is Sessions worth the pursuit? Can the Hawks do better? What do YOU think?

Rock the boat, don’t rock the boat

The only thing worse than a dejected fan is an apathetic fan. If Hawks management and ownership can’t see this, then they are blind, deaf, and dumb. But that’s precisely what is happening. Gone is the team that defended home court with a zeal not easily matched last season. In it’s place is the same guys, but the passion appears to be missing. Larry Drew says the team has become too comfortable. Is he not part of this comfort level? General manager Rick Sund needs to rock the boat. He needs to rock it hard enough that the occupants think it’s going to capsize and begin holding on for dear life. But, this is not Sund’s way. The problem is that the entire organization seems quite well lulled to sleep. Even the finger pointing has all but stopped (sans Al Horford’s recent post game comments about not getting the ball enough). Perhaps nothing is worse than having one of your team captains say that everything is alright, when so many things clearly are NOT alright. Don’t tell Drew, but I think some of the players (too many of them) are still drinking the koolaid. Things only get worse after the all-star break. The Hawks only managed to sustain a single winning streak of longer than 3 games this season, and the schedule has been rather favorable. What are they going to do against all these winning teams that are coming up?

Time to rock the boat, Rick Sund. The occupants are mostly asleep, and the ship’s captain looks like he’s contemplating abdication.

So will the Hawks stand pat once more? Will they make any move of significance? Does anybody in the front office even care? We’ll know soon enough.

 

 

By Big Ray, Hawks Fan Nest

235 comments Add your comment

atlanta 10

February 18th, 2011
1:14 am

gearon jr.

February 18th, 2011
1:40 am

If the hawks don’t win the Eastern conference championship with the current team, it’s the fans fault.
that’s right, i said it.

Ed

February 18th, 2011
2:08 am

Great stuff as always Ray. It certainly appears to me as if the Hawks are going to stand pat. Plus, the only kind of move that will truly make a difference would be a significant one that would include a Smith or Crawford type player. Going after a backup PG (Sessions) wouldn’t come close to curing the Hawks ills. This is not even mentioning the number of hands that would be involved in any trade, making it that much more difficult to come to a decision on who stays and who goes.

wordsmithtom

February 18th, 2011
2:09 am

Every GM in NBA on eggshells until the Carmelo deal comes down. Nothing happens till that one gets done.

I’d much rather have Harris from NJ over Sessions. He can drive and dish. But, nothing happens there until the CA show is a wrap.

E43

February 18th, 2011
2:29 am

from the last blog

Big Ray + Obrien- the issue about your arguments is that your throwing away the situations the hawks were in. especially with that shelden williams pick. Rajon Rondo is the only guy that i can think of that has evolved into an efficient player from that 2006 draft who else do you think could be make an impact for the hawks in that draft? as for centers. i dont think that draft has produced a single starting center. there were multiple 7 footers. say they did decide to pick point guard in that draft, who were they supposed to pick? there was a huge amount of combo guards but maybe two or three point guards. If some of these guys the hawks picked did what they were drafted to do then maybe we wouldn’t be in this predicament. Look at the al horford pick. its a sin to pick shelden a pf/c but its perfectly fine to pick horford a pf/c the very next year? and even when it does come to point guards. they did damage control by going after acie bibby and teague but they all failed aside from bibby helping us get to the playoffs his first year.

Say we didnt pick shelden. who exactly should the hawks gone after? mouhamad sene put together the best a 2006 C draft best 5rpg. The point i was trying to make was that yeah the management has swung and miss but they did do damage control. its not like they all out abandoned going after centers and point guards. in the meantime the hawks have put together 3 good seasons so. they have to be doing something right somewhere. I’m not saying that they did a great job but I refuse to say that the did a bad one.

superiorblogman

February 18th, 2011
2:35 am

Jamal, Zaza, and a 2012 1st rounder for Devin Harris. That’s rather he is part of a deal for Carmelo or not. The Nuggets were said weeks ago to not really want him because of Lawson and the Nets had better try to trade him while they can still get something for him. He is about to be 28 and has never led a team to the playoffs as one of the 2 best players. Thus, he is a 3rd wheel at best. I figure Jamal and his expiring, a big man in Zaza and a 2012 1st round pick is more than enough for a 3rd wheel who will only lose value as long as he stays in New Jersey.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 18th, 2011
2:37 am

“its a sin to pick shelden a pf/c but its perfectly fine to pick horford a pf/c the very next year? ”

The problem with the Shelden pick wasn’t his position. It was his lack of NBA-level talent and the fact that nobody else was going to pick him that high. Shelden dominated in college, but it was pretty clear watching him then that his lack of athleticism and robotic post game would not translate well to the NBA. The fact that other big men in that draft were also busts (including Rick Sund’s pick Saer Sene) doesn’t excuse picking Shelden. Even if the Hawks were to avoid swingmen after stocking up on them in the previous few drafts, and even if they (like everyone else) didn’t have Rondo rated as a top-5 player, there are literally over a dozen players taken in the first round that year after Shelden who have outperformed him. Would it have been a good choice to pass up Rudy Gay and Brandon Roy due to their position and select someone like, for example, Randy Foye or Kyle Lowry at #5 overall? No, but at least they would have contributed something, which is a lot more than Shelden gave this team.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 18th, 2011
2:40 am

Horford, on the other hand, is leaps and bounds ahead of Shelden when it comes to talent. Ultimately, even if you pick a player who doesn’t fill a need, the player should at least justify his draft position with his talent. The Marvin pick, for example, wouldn’t receive nearly the criticism it does if Marvin had developed into a star by now. Yes, the Hawks would still need a point guard and Marvin may still seem superfluous, but it would be forgiven if he actually played like a #2 pick.

tjhook

February 18th, 2011
2:45 am

I would like to see the Hawks attempt to bring back Josh Childress and trade Marvin Williams. The Hawks have scoters but needs a wing player with a variety of talents. This is why Mo Evans is in the starting lineup. Childress upon returning would be a better version of Evans: perimeter defender, above the rim athlete, ability to make offensive plays without the ball in his hands. Teague would not have to worry about running the offense so much because Childress can handle the ball under pressure.

Ain't That the Truth, Ruth

February 18th, 2011
3:07 am

“Drinking the Cool-Aid” means the opposite of how you’ve used it. If the Hawks are drinking the Cool-Aid, as you say, then that means they ARE in fact buying into Drew’s program.

superiorblogman

February 18th, 2011
4:14 am

Ain’t That the Truth, Ruth

February 18th, 2011
3:07 am

“Drinking the Cool-Aid” means the opposite of how you’ve used it. If the Hawks are drinking the Cool-Aid, as you say, then that means they ARE in fact buying into Drew’s program.

No, he means they are thinking that they are better than they are. They are thinking that they could actually get to the Eastern Conference Finals, they are thinking they are elite. When atleast half of the 15 players they have are unproductive which is just wasteful and ridiculous.

superiorblogman

February 18th, 2011
4:16 am

Ain’t That the Truth, Ruth

February 18th, 2011
3:07 am

“Drinking the Cool-Aid” means the opposite of how you’ve used it. If the Hawks are drinking the Cool-Aid, as you say, then that means they ARE in fact buying into Drew’s program.

Nope, drinking the kool-aid could also refer to them drinking Sund’s kool-aid of them being elite and capable of making it to the Eastern Conference Finals

RomeDawg

February 18th, 2011
6:04 am

Josh Childress???? He has gone missing in Phoenix. If he were half as good as he thought he was he would be Jordan himself. He was “OK” here, sucked overseas and sucks in Phoenix so PLEASE do NOT bring Childress back.

The inconsistent play we get mirrors the inconsistent players we have. Josh Smith looks like an All Star some nights and All Area in High School on others. I wish he would quit relying on the jumper. Marvin….well he’s Marvin. Bibby is drawing Medicare and JJ will always be Robin, not Batman. Horford is a stud but he has to play out of position to mask our lack of size. Sometimes I feel that when Crawford enters the game the other players check out mentally because they know he is a black hole, when the ball comes to him, it ain’t coming back. The rest of the bench is too insignificant to mention.

ROCK THE BOAT!!!!

The Real Hawk

February 18th, 2011
6:59 am

Still owned by the clowns so all moves will be financially driven and not winning driven.
That includes no moves.

dap01

February 18th, 2011
7:25 am

If we don’t rock the boat we are still sinking. This team has peaked and we are what we are. The Hawks can not get out of the first round because we have such pronounced weaknesses and patterns a good coach will kill us. Milwalkee almost beat us even though the team had injuries.

Larry is all talk and no conviction. The hawks are such a poorly constructed team. We have 2 good pf’s and 2 good sg’s, an average sf and the 46th rank pg in the league.

O'Brien

February 18th, 2011
8:34 am

E43,

I understand picking Shelden, because he was arguably the best PF available. What I don’t understand is picking him 5th when nobody had him rated that high.

BK should have found a trade that allowed us to move down in the draft (outside the top 10). And since we were under the cap, we could have traded the #5 pick to another team, for lets say, the #12 pick, and filler (whether that is another low draft pick, or a player from the other team).

I think Shelden would have still been available. But (imo) nobody would trade with BK, because the rumor was already out that he had promised Shelden he would take him at #5. It was also rumored that Shelden stopped working out because he knew he would go 5th.

O'Brien

February 18th, 2011
8:40 am

I think Hawks need to rock the boat, because it will show fans that they are willing to make a move to try and improve, and it will show the current players that they are not happy with how they are playing.

I was a fan of Sessions when he was available 2 years ago. He is not the shooter that Bibby is, and his defense is almost as bad as Bibby. But I liked the fact that he got the FT line, was cheaper (he signed for 4 years, $16 mil), and he was still young, so he would have the opportunity to improve, and would be more tradeable later on. Instead, we resigned Bibby for 3 years, $18 mil.

I think trading for him now is a band aid, but if we are only giving up Mo Evans and Teague, I would do it. That would allow Jamal to play more SG (and not backup PG), and Bibby’s minutes could be reduced when he is struggling.

But of course, that means picking up extra salary for the next 2 years at $8.75 mil.

E43

February 18th, 2011
8:46 am

Najeh- i know about Shelden and i agree that Horford is light years ahead of him. The problem i had was that they concluded that the hawks had done a poor job in the front office and i just feel like its unfair to say so especially because the hawks did try to address certain needs with picks but failed. The hawks may not have addressed need immediately but they did do so at some point or another. The only need they haven’t tried to address has been the center position. basically all i did was give the hawks credit for building guys like Horford and Smith up. This is a team that almost had three all-stars and two of which we drafted. There are teams making real bad moves out there. compared to the rest of the league, that office has done enough to survive. not pass or fail.

jack bower

February 18th, 2011
8:48 am

Josh, ZAza, and a first rounder for Nene and Ty Lawson. Lawson, J Johnson, Marvin, Al, and Nene sounds pretty solid to me. You get a pg and a big. Most importantly we get rid of Josh who just doesn’t get it and never will.

coachx

February 18th, 2011
8:59 am

Yes Sessions makes the Hawks better. Bibby can’t play 30 + minutes any more. I can see Sessions and Bibby splitting time 50/50 and / 0r letting the hot hand get more minutes. Let a little competition for playing time take effect. Sessions has handled that his whole carreer and Bibby is a veteran who has said many times he doesn’t cane about his personal stats anymore. Point being, both guys can take some competition.

What Sessions has that Teague will never have is the natural basketball IQ of a PG.

I hope the Hawks can hold on to Jordan Crawford and trade Teague / Mo / 2nd for Sessions.

Mr Mojo

February 18th, 2011
9:16 am

NJ is going to send Harris to Den if the Melo deal goes through. Den wants to mvoe Harris. why cant we do something with Marvin, Teague and a 1st for Harris and Murphy? This deal makes us betetr now and gives us PG of the future.

Mr Mojo

February 18th, 2011
9:17 am

Murphy going to Den in the Melo deal as well. Getting Nene and Harris is probably unrealistic.

Mr Mojo

February 18th, 2011
9:18 am

Also, All you ttrade Josh people are the ones that dont get it. Trading Josh is not the answer

Dino

February 18th, 2011
9:21 am

“Rajon Rondo is the only guy that i can think of that has evolved into an efficient player from that 2006 draft who else do you think could be make an impact for the hawks in that draft?”

@E43 : … and Rajon Rondo was selected with the pick we gave to the Suns in the Joe sign-and-trade…

Actually, even if Joe was signed directly and we kept Diaw and the 2 first picks, I bet we would not have picked Rondo with the pick, when you see we picked Shelden with the 5th :(

Eric

February 18th, 2011
9:43 am

Josh and Al are the future of this franchise, the team folds if you trade either. The weakest links in my opinion is Marvin Williams and ZaZa Pachulia, and the Hawks are hurting at there positions (starting small forward and back-up Center).Al Harrington, Antawn Jamison just putting some names out there, the Hawks should trade for a solid starting forward.

niremetal

February 18th, 2011
9:53 am

Ray,

According to Synergy, Sessions is one of the 5 worst defenders in the league using their formula, which is a pretty complex one that looks at each individual defensive possession. So yeah, he clearly could be worse than Crawford and Bibby. He actually is eerily reminiscent of a young Jamal on defense – his lateral quickness is not as impressive as his speed in the open floor or his quickness to the hole, and he compounds that error by taking many plays off altogether.

If he put his mind to it, he obviously could be solid defensively despite his middling lateral quickness for a PG (see: Derek Fisher). But that’s not likely to happen. People like to think that young players will come around and give better effort as they mature, but reality is that rarely is the case. If someone doesn’t give it his all when he’s young and has something to prove, he probably isn’t going to give it his all later. See: Jamal Crawford.

Jesse

February 18th, 2011
10:06 am

A quicker PG would be nice. Teague just doesn’t have the confidence to play at this level… or the jump shot. What we need is a SF who will drive to the basket, or a PG who will do that. The Hawks settle for too many jump shots. They need a guy who can draw fouls and get to the line. Marvin did that the other night with 8 FT attempts, but he needs to do that every night. I’d make a trade. This team will never win a RING unless they get a better PG and a legit Big Man.

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February 18th, 2011
10:09 am

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O'Brien

February 18th, 2011
10:10 am

nire,

I havent seen much of Sessions, so I can’t speak for his defense. My question is, does he guard his man more often than Bibby does?

Bibby’s defense is bad, but sometimes JJ guards the PG (and we have also used switching to cover up for Bibby), so maybe Bibby’s numbers would be even worse if he defended other PGs all the time.

I’m just wondering, as bad as Sessions is defensively, maybe the Hawks would be willing to take their chances with him defending the other PG. Because when JJ defends them, or we switch, that sets off a chain reaction that complicates things.

Also, based on the formula, is Duhon better than Sessions? If so, Hawks could cut Etan, and offer the TPE to Orlando for Duhon.

steve brown

February 18th, 2011
10:16 am

Sessions has a greater upside than any point guard we currently have (he can score and more importantly he can be a double digit assist man). If we acquired Sessions we would only have a weakness at center. It is called taking a risk-just do it. I think some sort of trade will be made because our ownership group will attempt to deflect the Thrasher venom through a move-not very clear thinking but typical for this bunch.

steve brown

February 18th, 2011
10:18 am

I can see the day when many of these posts are ads for other blogs. I don’t think I like it.

Melvin

February 18th, 2011
10:23 am

Excellent blog Big Ray. I hope those in the front office reads it. Also, I think the boat need to be over turn by getting rid of Sund and LD along with some players. I know that’s not going to happen doing the season but at least acquire a player or two to rock the boat. I welcome Sessions with open arms. I could careless with his defensive stats look like, I can’t imagine him being any worse than Bibby/Jamal. He would add penetration and dishing abilities that this team sorely lacks.

niremetal

February 18th, 2011
10:37 am

O’B,

The defensive score is based on how well you defend the man you’re guarding (and it breaks it down by possession) as compared to how effective other players are at guarding the same player, and takes into account the offensive score of the player(s) you guard. Since it’s a relative measure, it accounts for differences in the quality of player that you’re guarding. In other words, you get more credit when Chris Paul misses a shot while you’re guarding him than when Trevor Ariza misses a shot while you’re guarding him. So it takes that into account. Not only that, but it takes into account how efficient the other player the other guy is at scoring on the specific type of play for each possession – which means that you get more credit for stopping Chris Paul in transition than you do for stopping Chris Paul when he spots up.

Bear in mind that Bibby actually does guard the opposing PG many possessions each game, and those possessions (on which Bibby presumably does quite badly) factor into the overall score.

niremetal

February 18th, 2011
10:40 am

And the 5 worst defenders (min. 300 plays) were J.R. Smith, Ramon Sessions, Daniel Gibson, Marco Belinelli, Nic Batum. I was surprised to see Batum on there. It’s clear that his defense has fallen off noticeably this year, but I didn’t think it had fallen off THAT much…

bjrufino

February 18th, 2011
10:42 am

it’s the fans fault they don’t watch hawks home games, we should go to philips arena every home game and support the hawks not other team, understood???

Najeh Davenpoop

February 18th, 2011
11:00 am

Sessions may or may not be a long term solution, but if all the Hawks are giving up to get him are expiring contracts and second round picks I don’t see the problem. If your risk is zero, even a modest reward is worth it. We do definitively know that Sessions can do one thing better than anyone else on this team, and that is getting to the foul line. If his defense sucks, so what? It’s not like the Hawks are giving up much of value to get him. The only reason it would be a bad deal is if the Hawks passed up on a better trade opportunity to get him, and so far it doesn’t look like such an opportunity has manifested itself.

niremetal

February 18th, 2011
11:04 am

I never said I wasn’t in favor of trading for Sessions. Just was saying that we shouldn’t expect our defense to improve much with him. I still say it’s time for…

CFTSOC

Astro Joe

February 18th, 2011
11:07 am

Where’s the offering plate? I like what Rev. Big Ray is preaching!

Rufus1

February 18th, 2011
11:07 am

Trade our 1st rd pick…

Trade our 1st rd pick + Mo and Damien for session and Parker. If he becomes our starting PG for the next 3 years, isn’t he worth the 24th pick or higher.

This will be the best team and the best finishers he has ever played with. He might average 8 or 9 ast a game with Joe, Al, Josh and Marvin on the floor. His game is going to the basket, we have no one that does that with regularity and we only need an average defender at the point…That has to be worth our 1st round pick.

Astro Joe

February 18th, 2011
11:42 am

Here’s Hollinger’s write-up on Sessions. The description of his offense sounds polar-opposite of Bibby’s strengths.


+ Clever pick-and-roll operator who uses size and handle to score, draw fouls.

+ Average athlete but one with good size and toughness; good rebounder for size.

+ Poor outside shooter who struggles in catch-and-shoot and from free throw line.

It’s unclear why Sessions came off the bench when he was Jonny Flynn’s equal on offense and a vast improvement on defense. Unfortunately, he was nearly as miscast in the triangle as Flynn was, as his core talent, running pick-and-roll, went neglected while he was forced into being a spot-up shooter.

He could hardly be more ill-suited for the assignment, as he’s made only 10 3s his entire career. He was better than usual on long 2s at least (42.1 percent), and finished fifth among point guards in rebound rate. Nonetheless, it’s hardly shocking that his numbers dipped so much given that he went from a fairly ideal system for his skills in Milwaukee to a terrible one in Minnesota. His contract (three years left, $12 million) can provide incredible value in the right situation, so he could end up being a steal for Cleveland

Astro Joe

February 18th, 2011
11:51 am

I don’t doubt that what Synergy says, but it is interesting that the Cavs (absent a shot-blocker and having lost a ridiculous number of games) have 2 players in the bottom 5. If you believe that he can fill at least 2 needs for this team (someone who can generate FTAs and someone who can penetrate and set-up teammates for easy looks), then I’m all for it. I’d love to think that the front-office has a list of skill gaps and try to find players who can fill those needs.

Mike Woodson

February 18th, 2011
12:27 pm

Should have kept me I had jamal Crawford thinking team first

On the fence fan

February 18th, 2011
12:28 pm

Love this blog man Rock that boat like the Titanic

The Truth

February 18th, 2011
12:28 pm

It looks like Sessions game is a projection of what Jeff Teague’s game will look like with extended minutes. A player capable of breaking-down the defense; can get to the free-throw line but can’t shoot the 3-ball and a par shooter from the perimeter. Jeff may actually be a better defender once he’s seasoned with more PT. From the big picture prospective, acquiring Session could be a regression for the Hawks since they invested so much in Teague. If they are going to replace Teague, they better make sure the replacement is a bona fide upgrade and will be worth their past mistake.

The Truth

February 18th, 2011
12:43 pm

What on earth is the plan for Pape Sy? How does he fit in all of this? Does he suppose to be a big PG or SG or a SF? How does his DL stats of

PPG 8.1
RPG 3.6
APG 1.4
EFF +6.85

translate to the NBA for the Hawks to use him? Was this a wasted pick? If not, can they use him this season? With LD already tight rotation, probably not as he will be coaching scared for the rest of the season.

Ken Strickland

February 18th, 2011
12:45 pm

RSessions wouldn’t be my choice, but I certainly wouldn’t complain if we got him because he’s certainly an upgrade over what we’re using now. I keep reading comments from bandwagon jumping fans who mimic whatever they hear about Teague and regurgitate it back as if it’s a proven fact. It’s the same crap that’s fueled the same excuses for every guard drafted since Woodson’s arrival.

Some of you are so quick to absorb any lame excuse offered, without thinking, to justify any dislike or support of certain players. We’ve heard these BS excuses offered up by LDrew about Teague lacking the aggressiveness he demands of his PG, yet that quality certainly hasn’t prevented fellow guard Jordan Crawford, who’s certainly not lacking in aggressiveness in any form, from getting the same negative treatment Teague’s getting.

LDrew’s abvious willingness to settle for MBibby’s unique form of aggressiveness(and that word is the word very lightly in regards to Bibby), along with his lowly 9.3PPG and 3.6APG, demonstrates a need for him to start searching for another lame A$$ excuse for not giving Teague a legitimate opportunity to show if he can resolve the PG issues that are currently being presented by an over reliance on MBibby and JaCrawford.

How utterly STUPID and ILLOGICAL is it for a NBA HC to think he can continuously use his 2 worse perimeter defenders to resolve the teams serious issues with PERIMETER DEF? Can anyone name another HC or GM that’s dumb enough to even consider the thought of starting MBibby, let alone playing him 30MPG, especially with his OFF limitations,inconsistency, low overall production, and long standing DEF liabilities?

dap01

February 18th, 2011
12:48 pm

The Truth: There is no plan in the entire Hawks organization for anything!

Hazeltine

February 18th, 2011
12:51 pm

Jeff Teague does not have the passing instincts to be a successful NBA PG. Sure, he’s quick, fast, has some range, can get to the rim occasionally, and has sticky hands, but that just makes him a 6′1″ SG.

Hazeltine

February 18th, 2011
12:53 pm

Also, it seems that the Hawks brass is content with just making the playoffs. They call it “being competitive.”

O'Brien

February 18th, 2011
1:04 pm

Interesting defensive breakdown.

AJ,

Based on Hollinger’s notes, Sessions would be a welcome addition, because he does not take as many jumpers as Bibby. So when we get jumper happy in the 4th, he is more likely to try and get to the line. Bibby is content to stand by the 3-point line and shoot jumpers all game.

Najeh,

I think the reason ASG will not trade for Sessions at the deadline is because they dont know what the new CBA will look like for next year, so they dont want to pick up an extra $3 – $4 mil in salary for next year.

I think that will also stop them from going after Duhon with the TPE (if he is available).

Ken S,

Teague and Jordan are in different positions. Teague is playing behind Bibby, who as we all know struggles mightily at times. And sometimes Jamal runs the point.

Jordan is playing behind JJ, who is playing very well overall, and behind Jamal (although he is streaky). Plus, Mo Evans also gets time at SG.

I do think LD can find more time for both of them though..