Hawks fans: When is patience no longer a virtue?

Are you thinking what I’m thinking? If it’s “here we go again,” then we’re thinking the same thing.

Another fourth quarter collapse. Another quick point guard doing the Hawks in. Another set of typical quotes from two of the team’s captains. Another vein of frustration popping out of the coach’s forehead. Perspectives from AL, Larry, and Joe are becoming the norm these days. But that is not the problem at all. The problem is that those perspectives haven’t changed one bit, because the situation has not changed.

Patience, patience

That’s why management preaches. That’s not what you’re hearing from Head Coach Larry Drew, though. No, what we’re hearing from him is long-suffering. There is a fundamental difference between the two. Patience is realizing that a non-lottery draft pick might need a bit more work than a lottery draft pick. Patience is understanding that a new offensive philosophy or a new rotation player added to the mix takes some time to develop. Patience is doing the best you can as a team while waiting for injured starters to heal.

Patience is not making the same exact mistakes again and again, despite the fact that you should know by now (after 2 or 3 years) what will cause you to lose the lead in a game. Why is shot selection still an issue?

The Usual Suspects, The Usual Results

Joe Johnson is the best player on this team and the guy you want to have the ball in the worst situations. How does he end up taking only two more shots than the team’s sixth man, and seven less shots than the team’s worst perimeter shooting starter? You can criticize Joe for taking too many jumpers if you choose. But the fact is, Joe is a shooter and scorer. You WANT him to shoot.

Jamal Crawford is a streak shooter. Either he’s good, or he’s bad. There is little middle ground with Jamal. Do you want him to shoot? Yes. It’s what he does. But you have to understand that shoot is what he’s going to do, whether he’s on or not. On the other end of the floor, there is nothing to balance things out, plain and simple. The good news is that Jamal does know how to get to the line.

Now for the self-made whipping boy, Josh Smith. Josh has gotten to where he can make shots from the outside. The problem is that in his mind, can is the same as will. Smith’s early season perimeter success has eroded on a near day-to-day basis, and I truly believe that much of this has to do with him trying to establish his offense outside first, instead of inside. The problem with this is that it’s the exact opposite of what his coach has been trying to tell him. And there it is – Josh not listening again. Still. When will this change? Will it change?

Taking Notes

Rick Sund says the Hawks like their core, and that they are going to be patient with the team. But when is patience no longer a virtue? How long can the Hawks afford to stay with the status quo? We’re not talking about making random changes here. We’re talking about fixing actual problems. When do the excuses run out? How long is ownership and management going to take an “Oh, it will be fine” stance?

Maybe Sund should start taking note of the things some of his most valued players are saying. Maybe he should pay attention to the words coming from the mouth of the very man he “hired” to change that which has not changed. Sooner or later this will be simply too much. Sooner or later regression takes hold for good, until something significant is done. The Hawks keep saying it can happen from within, but can it? They say they’re aware of the main problem. A couple of wins go by and all is somewhat good. Then the inevitable happens and it’s back to the same quotes, the same hanging heads, the same shrugging shoulders.

Perhaps Al Horford said it best :

“I guess when it gets to a point where it hurts you and really bothers you, then you do something about it. I don’t know that we’re there as a team yet.”

Does it hurt the team enough yet, or have they passed the point of where they are collectively aware (translation: are there guys who simply don’t care enough)? How about management? Are there enough guys on the floor to fix the situation, or does the fix have to come from higher? More than ever, it seems that this questions leans harder towards the latter, rather than the former.

Flip Side of the Coin

Not all is gloom and doom. At the very least, the Hawks have gotten past the injury bug for the moment. Al Horford looked like he didn’t miss a beat against Milwaukee, hitting 7 of 9 shots and adding another nice double double to his collection. Meanwhile, Marvin looked rather effective coming off the bench. This is certainly good news for a Hawks team that may need to experiment a bit more to find the best possible chemistry that it can, seeing as how the schedule will only get tougher.

273 comments Add your comment

D.McGourty

January 27th, 2011
9:24 pm

D.McGourty

January 27th, 2011
9:26 pm

First time posting something too, how about that

Big Ray

January 27th, 2011
9:28 pm

First AND second!

Section 303

January 27th, 2011
9:43 pm

If the Hawks do not make some kind of trade, then the management just does not care. You can’t keep this group together and expect anything different than what we’ve seen. And, really, this team won’t have a shot of making it out the round 1 as a 5th seed. No shot.

Would be nice to see this team make a bold move for once. I know who I would trade. He wears #5, pouts at refs, and plays hard sometimes.

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O'Brien

January 27th, 2011
10:08 pm

Our PG, who is one of our leaders is one of the culprits (imo), when it comes to the shoulder shrug after a loss.

More often than not, regardless of how the game was lost, Bibby usually says something like “It’s just one game”, “these things happen” etc.

Josh usually has some kind of excuse, and JJ will say he’s not sure what happened. More often than not, Al is the voice of reason, and thats partly why I think he should have been named captain.

Can anybody say they have seen any leadership qualities out of Josh this season?

As for the “core”, we will not know for sure how the core will do until we get to the playoffs. But so far, we continue to see flashes of the same ole Hawks.

If Sund does not make a move this season, and the Hawks get bounced in the first round, or blown out (or swept) in the second, then maybe Sund and LD should both be on the hot seat next year.

SteveW

January 27th, 2011
10:09 pm

This quote about Josh is what we’ve been trying to tell the blind Josh followers, “Smith’s early season perimeter success has eroded on a near day-to-day basis, and I truly believe that much of this has to do with him trying to establish his offense outside first, instead of inside.The problem with this is that it’s the exact opposite of what his coach has been trying to tell him. And there it is – Josh not listening again. Still. When will this change? Will it change?”

The Coach says one thing, and Josh does another. The only excuse proffered is that it is his teammates fault for passing him the ball on the perimeter. Nobody is talking about shots with 3 seconds left etc. Direct disobedience to the Coach. Anybody want to defend it?

SteveW

January 27th, 2011
10:12 pm

Patience with Teague, and probably Jordan Crawford, and maybe even Sy, will pay dividends.

Grandad – Have you seen our guy Pape Sy! 19-30 from the field in his last 4 or 5 games. Been tearing it up. We may have Mo’ Evans replacement right there for next season.

And yes, I was against bringing him over from Le Havre, but it may pay dividends.

Section 303

January 27th, 2011
10:22 pm

SteveW, I’m done with Teague. He isn’t good. 3-years from now he won’t even be in the league.

I like Jordan Crawford, from what I’ve seen. He seems fearless and he has a potentially great shot. I guess he has a chance to get in the rotation next year (if there is a next year). No shot if the Hawks keep Jamal Crawford.

Not holding my breath on Pope Sy. He seems like a major reach. Haven’t seen him play, though. But, did read the D-League scouts bashing him after the D-League Showcase. In his defense, he was coming off an injury. Had not had much time to get rolling.

Air Zaza

January 27th, 2011
10:53 pm

I’m no where near done with our really young guys, they are prospects and are still growing. They are okay in my book. Josh Smith should no longer play SF, ever again. Either start Marvin at SF and Smith at PF. Bring Smith off the bench. He doesn’t need to play SF.

tyger

January 27th, 2011
10:53 pm

Hawks mediocre, plain and simple…

1. Mgt. did nothing to improve…
2. Hawks mediocre then, Hawks mediocre now…
3. The Hawks are, who we thought they were…
4. They’ve all reached their peaks…it is what it is…
5. Where’s Flip Murray?
6. Teague is a waste of sperm…
7. ZaZa was 2x better, 3 yrs. ago…
8. Lou Williams developed internally, Teague has not…
9. Does Smoove have a right hand???
10. Who makes Bibby’s shoes? Acme Cement Co.?

charles

January 27th, 2011
11:14 pm

We are not winning anything in the playpffs with bibby and teague as our point guards. We NEED to send Jamaal Crawford’s expiring contract and get devin harris. We would have a legit point guard for the first time in years….

coolbronx

January 27th, 2011
11:29 pm

First of all the Hawks are too small on the front line. They are not going to win consistently with Al at the 5. Why draft Teague and not play him? Teague is a very good player who just isn’t getting the time to prove himself. Every player makes turnovers, look at Josh Smith. The GM has done nothing. They could have had Shaq but were too cheap to pay him. He would have paid for himself with increased attendance. They basically came back with the same team grossly overpaid an marginal player Joe Johnson) and expected to get better. And they wonder why they don’t get fan support.

DHD

January 27th, 2011
11:37 pm

The Hawks have peaked. We can sit still and be happy with the 4th or 5th seed, losing in the second round each year or we can make a bold move. My money is on sitting still, sadly.

E

January 28th, 2011
12:54 am

To all the Hawks and NBA fans please not looking so deep into what the problem is due to the entire problem being that only about 25% of the players are really PROS at what they do and the other 75% is STRAIGHT GARBBAGE. That’s why they only show the same team on national television on a weekly basis because if not the rating would drop. THE WORD PRO IS VERY OVERRATED AT THIS POINT OF THE NBA.

wordsmithtom

January 28th, 2011
1:06 am

Big Ray,
Best blog ever! Smokin!

Stay patient: I don’t see this ownership group wanting to do anything different before the new labor agreement this summer. Perhaps a minor tweek come trade deadline with Crawford, but little more until they know how the big money shakes out under the new deal. Your comment from Al speaks to ownership: if the fan base doesn’t support their product to the point it “hurts”, they’ll do something about it…right now, it probably doesn’t hurt enough to make a major change with so much in flux ahead of the new deal.

Ed

January 28th, 2011
3:00 am

Super work Ray…keep’em coming. The best thing we can hope for is the ASG sells the Hawks. Only then (if the right owner buys them) will this franchise turn it around. As others have mentioned, this group of players has reached it’s peak and I don’t see ownership making a significant move. Somewhere Woody must be smilin’…

NCBravesFan

January 28th, 2011
6:04 am

Unless and until there’s a change at the very top (either new ownership or the willingness of the current ownership to spend money and make gutty, smart decisions), not much figures to change. There’s no accountability on the team because there’s no accountability in the organization.

The Hawk ownership is clearly content with being a “nice” secondary team at best, and doesn’t want to risk where they are for the possible rewards of what could be for NBA ball in ATL.

Little vision, limited commitment, no apparent awareness of how their actions/statements resonate with the fans. I’m talking about the owners here, but could not the same be said of the players in far too many key situations?

Big Ray

January 28th, 2011
6:59 am

Section 303 ,

I think more people are beginning to lean that way.

wordsmithtom ,

Thanks! As for staying patient, do we have much choice? To be honest, I’m not entirely certain this ownership group is going to hold onto this team. They’ve been trying to sell the Thrashers (reportedly), as we see part of their lawsuit against that one particular group states that they haven’t been able to because of the way the group appraised things (or whatever the fight is about this time). I would not be surprised if they have been trying to sell the Hawks.

Some of the owners have been quoted as saying they’ve done nothing but lose money since buying the team (Rutherford Seydel). Others have said they had to cut back their stake in the team (Rutherford Seydel…again). Don’t know how much longer we’ll see them at the controls. Don’t know that I care.

Ed ,

Thanks! I don’t know if Woody is smiling, but if he is, it’s a partially bitter smile. Fact is, his name has yet to appear on any media radar since he was unceremoniously allowed to walk away. I take that back. One media source suggested that he might be interviewed for the Cavs job prior to the start of the season. Since then, the only person talking about Mike Woodson is Charles Barkley. And while he’s loveable and funny (and sometimes a jackass), the man is NOT who you want speaking on your behalf prior to a job interview.

Big Ray

January 28th, 2011
7:06 am

tyger ,

Come on, man. With #6, you’re no longer talking about a basketball player. You’re talking about a person. You don’t like the ball player. Fine. But I doubt you actually know the person. Keep it level, man.

On Lou Williams – dude stunk his first two years, and could hardly get minutes. In fact, he got fewer minutes his rookie year than Teague did. Didn’t shoot any better, certainly didn’t score any better. In his third year, he got 23 mpg, and unsurprisingly, his production became legit. He still isn’t all that good of a shooter (career 42.5%) but he is clearly a scorer. I’m pretty disappointed in Teague too, but a third year he gets all the same (unless traded). After that, all bets are off.

Take a look at what Lou did his first two years. You won’t come away impressed with his “development” at all.

Big Ray

January 28th, 2011
7:09 am

E

January 28th, 2011
12:54 am
To all the Hawks and NBA fans please not looking so deep into what the problem is due to the entire problem being that only about 25% of the players are really PROS at what they do and the other 75% is STRAIGHT GARBBAGE. That’s why they only show the same team on national television on a weekly basis because if not the rating would drop. THE WORD PRO IS VERY OVERRATED AT THIS POINT OF THE NBA.

Try college ball. Then you can complain about recruiting violations and what not ;)

Big Ray

January 28th, 2011
7:11 am

SteveW ,

Any serious defense will likely start or end with the bashing of another player. For instance, the best way to defend a guy when he’s come to this point, is to compare him to somebody else you don’t like.

Most likely argument? Support Josh by bashing Marvin (or Al). Sure, it’s disingenuous, but it’s sooooo convenient for some. Heh heh heh…

O'Brien

January 28th, 2011
7:29 am

Forbes.com ranked all NBA teams in terms of value. Bucks were dead last at $278 mil, while our Hawks checked in at #21, with a value of $306 mil.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/32/nba08_NBA-Team-Valuations_Value.html/

I will not be surprised if the ASG sell the Hawks within the next 3 or 4 years, especially if they continue to lose money.

O'Brien

January 28th, 2011
7:48 am

I think the Hawks and Josh will benefit a great deal from a trade.

The Hawks will benefit because:

1) We could upgrade at PG (or Center)
2) Hawks need to be more consistent, and Josh is the definition of inconsistent
3) Hawks need a mental makeover, so trading a starter will change the personality/dynamic of the team.

* If we can get a defensive PG in here, then Josh’s weakside help will not be needed as much. His rebounding is consistent, but his blocks per game are on the decline (too much SF maybe).

Nov: 2.07 bpg, Dec: 1.53 bpg, Jan: 1.10 bpg

And Josh will benefit because it will be a fresh start for him, new fans, new coach, and hopefully, a team where he can play PF full time.

Imagine how good Josh would be if he was playing for Popovich, Sloan, Rivers, or one of those A-level coaches.

STRETCH

January 28th, 2011
7:53 am

Big Ray,

Just wanted to thank U for writing this, and i havent even read the article yet!!

Every team with a chance of making the playoffs is making moves or either inquiring. Yeah we know that Hawks inquired, but thats all they are going to do inquire.

But U are keeping real while MC just wrote an article on Walt Frazier????? LOL!

But it seems the case for so long around ATL that the fans have to put up with mediocre management resulting in mediocre talent and therefore mediocre results.

STRETCH

January 28th, 2011
7:59 am

The problem is JJ and JS, both or one of the two need to go. A “Superstar” that shows up once a week and a “Superbaby” that shows up crying every game!

Steven

January 28th, 2011
8:16 am

The scary thought is what happens once the players realize (if they haven’t already) that this collective bunch isn’t going to do more than they already have, and the ownership/GM isn’t going to make a move to make them better. What are they playing for? Will they give it their all knowing that they’re playing for a contract extension 4 years from now?

Willie Coyote

January 28th, 2011
8:44 am

Josh is our best Athlete and can dunk on just about anyone in the league. Why does he routinely go to the hole so soft or settle for jumpers. We need him to go Blake Griffin on folks.

I wish he had the mentality of Josh Childress. He scored in double figures every night without having one play run for him. he did it on the offensive glass, in transition, and on back cuts. Josh is bigger and more athletic than Childress but the mental makeup isn’t there to do the little things like that on a consistent basis.

When you take him out, you have no shot blocker on the court and no one who can pick up his defensive slack. That is why he is never benched because we can’t afford to do it.

It really speaks to his talent that he is so irreplaceable in some respects. If you do trade him, what is your asking price? Who is willing or able to put together a package worthy of Josh. Like him or not, he is one-of-a-kind in this league. When he’s locked in, watch out. Unfortunately, in year 7, we are still saying this.

Teague won’t get minutes as long as Jamal is here. If we want to develop Teague this season, Crawford has to be traded; otherwise it will be next year when Crawford walks. Unfortunately Teague’s jumper is such a liability that he really hurts his own case. He can break people down off the dribble and get shots for his teammates better than anyone else on the roster though.

westurd

January 28th, 2011
8:46 am

No Comment…….you said it all Big Ray. Good stuff

Astro Joe

January 28th, 2011
9:20 am

Wllie Coyote said, I wish he (Josh Smith) had the mentality of Josh Childress. Uh, yeah, that would be real nice and would likely make him a top 10 player in the league.

Great stuff, Big Ray. This group of players lacks discipline. Joe knows he should move the ball but sometimes gets caught up in iso-mode. Josh knows right from wrong but fails to consistently do the right thing. Al even gets jumper happy as if to prove on the court his “I’m really a PF” statements off the court. I used to cry about the team’s lack of b-ball IQ but now I believe it is less IQ and more discipline. They know, they just too often don’t do. That doesn’t come from a lack of energy, it comes from a lack of discipline. They know that the salad is a better option than the bacon cheeseburger, they just choose to go with satisfying their craving much too often (I can relate). And so far, our new head coach doesn’t appear anymore interested in “accountability” than the last one.

O'Brien

January 28th, 2011
10:15 am

MC is reporting that Damien has been signed for the rest of the season, which I think is a good move.

However, that puts the Hawks at 15 players, so they have no more flexibility.

@ AJ,

Bibby is probably the main guy who tries to stay within his limitations more often than not.

O'Brien

January 28th, 2011
10:19 am

As a side note, this is another example of Rick being a reactive (not proactive) GM.

All off-season, we talked about this team needing a wing defender, but Rick and LD did not address it. Marvin and Mo got hurt at the same time, and they STILL did not address it.

Ironically, it was when JJ got hurt that they finally signed Damien.

Astro Joe

January 28th, 2011
10:28 am

OB, I’m not too thrilled with the move (assuming nothing else happens with the roster). I’d rather have Jason Williams sitting on the bench than Damien Wilkins. If LD goes with the big line-up, Wilkins becomes the 6th wing on the team. I’d much rather have a true PG riding the pine than a 6th wing player. It also means that we can’t add any vet who accepts a post trade deadline buyout from their team.

Cutty

January 28th, 2011
10:38 am

Wait a minute I thought that Marvin Williams was the problem with our team? Josh Smith needs to be the one coming off the bench when we use our big lineup. Really he needs to be traded. This is his 7th year in the league and he is doing the same stuff. He needs to be traded. Who cares about the hometown boy crap anyway? Other than his family and his “homeboys” no one is going to see just Josh Smith. He has more turnovers that blocks. Think about because he is basically giving the other team the ball right back with the turnovers. I told you guys that he has no business playing SF. Corey Maggette ate his lunch the other night while he went 6 for 20.

vava74

January 28th, 2011
10:56 am

From the previous blog:

Rod,

You are dead wrong.

There is a reason why Jamal HAS NEVER BEEN involved in winning basketball.

He is soft, desinterested/unable to play D, poor decision maker, … You name it.

Yes, he is very talented on the ball player, sometimes even wonderful to watch, but so are the Harlem Globetrotters.

Basically Jamal has never been good structurally for the teams he plays.

He was vastly overused by Woody and is being vastly overused by LD.

The team had more spunk and played more cohesive with Flip.

These are facts. Even more evident that Marvin’s alleged prejudicial effect on the team.

Your: “Marvin returns, the Hawks lose” is pathetic.

Marvin is not #2 material and has marked shortcomings but your loathing is delusional.

Rufus1

January 28th, 2011
10:59 am

Astro Joe…Great point!

“I used to cry about the team’s lack of b-ball IQ but now I believe it is less IQ and more discipline. They know, they just too often don’t do. That doesn’t come from a lack of energy, it comes from a lack of discipline.”

If you watch the elite teams(Boston) offensive and defensive discipline is what they display every game. Teams can survive with one undiscipline player coming off the bench(Nate Robinson)for 10-15min, but we have 2 1/2 to 3 undisciplined players on our team getting 30+ minutes a game!!!

Big Ray

January 28th, 2011
11:12 am

Astro Joe ,

You called it. Even Smith, who has often times been criticized as being “basketball stupid” is really not.

I think the disease and the culture are one and the same. There is enough of the “lack of discipline” that it even affects the guys who truly know better. Joe gets caught up in ISO because when all is failing around him, he knows how to be himself, and do what he does. Horford gets caught up in being a PF more than a center when caught up in the madness. Thing is, both guys are much more likely to be at least individually effective when it happens. Horford might play too softly, but still puts up a double double with 50% – plus shooting. Joe may get caught up in ISO, but will often still give you 20+ points and 4-6 assists and rebounds.

Other guys? When they screw up, they screw ALL the way up.

Rufus1

January 28th, 2011
11:16 am

Team “TOV” Turnovers

Al 65 TOV and 49 blocks
JS 125 and 60 blocks
JJ 68
JC1 79
Bibby 59

DISCIPLINE…..HMMMMM!

Big Ray

January 28th, 2011
11:16 am

Rufus1 ,

Boston is a great example. Truth be told, they have had two undisciplined guys. Robinson and Big Baby Davis. The former will become acclimated soon enough. The latter learned through trial by fire, and by having true leaders on his team. He now is somebody they can count on. Furthermore, it was a team where a personality like Shaq could exist without being a negative influence.

Here, they’d be counting on Shaq for too much leadership, instead of simply another veteran influence.

Oh wait. We signed Josh Powell for veteran leadership. Silly me.

steve brown

January 28th, 2011
11:22 am

Rutherford Seydel is a corporate lawyer, can’t wait to hear his testimony in his lawsuit versus his lawyer. Does Kaman of the Clippers for Smooth (ugh) help?

superiorblogman

January 28th, 2011
11:39 am

This is not called patience. If you see you have a lesion on your body that is there for longer than a month and it does not go away you had better go to the doctor, because the longer you let it stay the more dangerous it becomes. The Hawks have had 2 and you can argue 3 major marks in the starting lineup for atleast 2 years now and they have not done anything about it. It was proven in the Miami series that guys will just go at Bibby over and over again. It was proven in the Orlando series that Horford was not going to get you out of the East playing C. They have not fixed either of those issues and they are not new. Add to that Marvin is inconsistent and not reliable, Josh should not be shooting jumpshots. This team just has a bad mix right now. There asking people to do things they can’t and others are doing things they shouldn’t be. We all know what needs to be done and that is trading Josh and Jamal or Josh and Teague for a C and PG. This patience that they have is dangerous to long term health, because someone is going to have to publicly go after Josh to get him to stop this.

Rufus1

January 28th, 2011
11:40 am

Rufus1

January 28th, 2011
11:42 am

yodaddy

January 28th, 2011
11:45 am

We need to make a trade…..For the first time….I agree it has to be one of the starters.

Bibby, Marvin or Josh Smith…..add in a Jamal Crawford and Jeff Teague and lets go for it. Carmelo Anthony…Monta Ellis….Deron Williams….anybody really.

Our ability to collapse at home and on the road is crazy to me. It’s deflating and disheartening. How many games have we lost in the 4th quarter? I’m not talking a close game and then we lose…I’m talking we clearly have the lead and are in control and then just collapse??? How many games have we been blown out?

Dooley

January 28th, 2011
11:54 am

Obviously, people don’t watch the hawk enough to tell me Joe Johnson is the best player on the team.Are you folks out your mind?All the shots he missed,i mean uncontested floaters.Al Horford is the best player on the hawks.Consistent,Shoots over 50 % on FG’s,Plays hard every night,Averages a double double on consistent basis.Joe Johnson is our best scorer?What?Yall Noses must be runnin for saying some stuff like that.Jamal Crawford is the best scorer.And what does it matter if hes not making shots,he still gets to the line.You know why hes the best scorer because he can get a basket anytime and anywhere on the floor.He scores in bunches as dominique wilkins says.Look what Joe Johnsons Shot Percentage is every game.And You say hes the best scorer?Joe Johnson is a predictable ball player and overpaid.Did anyone see the toronto game where jamal just went off?Joe Johnson never and can never do that.Jamal hit a shot from damn near half-court and it was like he could just do it on a daily.Jamal has scored 50 Points with 3 teams i don’t think joe has did that with 1 team.Before Joe came to the hawks he was a nobody,he wasnt making a lot of money,one of the owners didn’t even want to bring Joe to atlanta.He was a Bench Player.Jamal has always started.When he was with the Knicks he was one of the Top guards in the League.Don’t tell me about a joe johnson man,he is not as good as hes put up to be.he needs 25 shots to score 10 points.That is plain bad.Joe is a streak shooter,expecially in the play-off.
Everybody needs to get off of Josh Smith because he has improved his jump shooting.Again larry drew’s offense is not for him.I Admit he doesn’t have a lot of post moves and he needs to work on that but Josh Smith needs to be unleashed.Blake Griffin is.Why Josh Smith Can’t Be?His First 3 Years in the league he was unleashed.The highlights speak for themselves.The hawks feed off his energy.You want to trade a player that brings energy to your team?Wow.But you guys know basketball.They all need better coaching.But you can’t pentalize josh for having a bad shooting night and missing shots because just like Larry Drew said he can’t get mad at josh for talking those bad shots,cause he does so much else for the team its makes up for it.Who in the NBA has a stat sheet like Josh Smith?No one.Steals,Rebounds,Points,Assists,and Blocks.The best Overall Player on the Hawks.You know why he complains and gives up so much?Because people do stupid stuff to put them out the game and he plays hard until that point.If the coach had any sense i would call alleyopp plays for josh because his best ability is jumping and larry drew isn’t using it.UNLEASH JOSH SMITH PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How would it be the highlight factory if Josh Smith was traded?um um um.

superiorblogman

January 28th, 2011
11:59 am

Josh is garbage and discussing Joe is stupid, the only teams that would take Joe’s contract is a team that is 1 player away from a championship, that means they will not be willing to give up much, get it people?

Dooley

January 28th, 2011
12:06 pm

superiorblogman

You Don’t Know Too Much About Basketball

niremetal

January 28th, 2011
12:10 pm

Damien’s locked up for the rest of the season:
http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2011/01/28/atlanta-hawks-damien-wilkins-signed-for-rest-of-season/

I wouldn’t have filled that last roster spot just yet. Now we don’t have the flexibility to sign any of the trade deadline afterthoughts who get bought out of their contracts in Feb/March…

niremetal

January 28th, 2011
12:10 pm

Of course, personally I woulda signed Damien in the first place rather than Etan or Poppy Seed. So count that as compounding a previously-made error…

superiorblogman

January 28th, 2011
12:12 pm

Dooley

January 28th, 2011
12:06 pm

superiorblogman

You Don’t Know Too Much About Basketball

Nope it’s actually you that is lost and Josh is extremely overstated and overrated. The coaches around the league will prove that again as he is left off of the all-star team again.