Hawks might be on true verge of Detroit model

Yes, we’re back to that again.

I’m sure that as fans we shared quite a laugh at the idea of the Atlanta Hawks morphing into another version of the multi-faceted Detroit Pistons team that was so potent from ‘02-’03 to ‘06-’07 (and arguably a year longer than that). The first objection would be from a defensive perspective, where the Hawks lack a point guard who can not only guard his own position, but guard many shooting guards as well, as Chauncey Billups used to do in the Motor City. The second objection would be that for all the many positives of Al Horford, he isn’t the beast on defense that Ben Wallace once was (of course, Horford doesn’t “juice”, either), and Josh Smith is no Rasheed Wallace (thank the basketball pantheon). In fact, the Hawks have never played team defense the way that Pistons team did.

But offensively speaking?

Under the tutelage of Larry Drew, the Hawks do seem to be headed in that direction. No longer is the team a collection of talent that routinely bogs down in the ingrained habit of isolation plays. No longer are they automatically sentenced to offensive epic failure if Joe Johnson or a second guard off the bench isn’t able to come out with both guns blazing, so to speak. No longer are they led solely or mostly by the backcourt. This Hawks team can score from a number of places, and finds contributions from a number of players. And, it’s happening in every game.

Growing Up Is Hard To Do

For years, one of the common themes has been about the average age of this Atlanta team. How many times have you heard “they’re young”, “we’re waiting for this one to turn the corner and develop into this or that”, or “how far this team goes depends on the growth and maturity of this one”, and what not? Sooner or later, the age factor got old, even if the majority of this roster has yet to do so. The guys grew up. Yet, growing up and developing are two different things. Much of this team’s success and ability to become as dangerous as they can be has depended on the growth and development of their starting frontcourt members.

I don’t like beating the bones of a deceased equine carcass, but Marvin Williams is still a mystery. Who is this guy? What is he capable of? We know what he gives this team, but we don’t understand why he doesn’t always give it. How far does this team go with him as a starter? What in the devil happened to his three point shot? Josh hits 3s now with far more accuracy and frequency. Josh Smith?! Of course, it’s also not fair to kick a man when he’s down. Marvin’s injury is apparently not an easy one to recover from, and maybe the playing time he’s getting right now simply isn’t helping that fact. Whatever happens from here, are we still wondering if this is a position of strength, or one of weakness? And to be fair, is that Marvin’s fault, or that of the front office, who did not see fit to add another wing player of comparable size to the position, until Joe Johnson became injured?

Marvin isn’t the only enigma on the front line, as Josh Smith continues to blend bafflement with brilliance. Every temper tantrum or bone-headed play makes you think you haven’t seen the last of his immaturity and lack of focus, but each season brings far fewer of those. Is this guy really team captain material? Will he ever be an all-star? Is he one now? Maybe the team captain part isn’t the real question. Maybe the real question is whether or not he can play a leadership role. Smith’s ability to take over a game has risen to new levels as he proves that he is the game’s most dangerous shot blocker. You simply never know where he is going to come from, or when. And, it doesn’t just happen at the rim, as more than one jumpshooter has found himself on the wrong end of a ESPN-like highlight. What’s more, Smith has shown an ability to score from a post-up position, occasionally mixing in drives against slower defenders. The part you never thought was coming….it’s now here. One team after the next is finding out that he can’t be left open all the time on the perimeter. I know, I know. You’re not the only one that sometimes sits around biting your fingernails and wondering if that newly effective jumper of his is simply an anomaly, and that one day you’ll wake up to those awful bricks again. Okay, so maybe that’s just me.

Al Horford is no longer the stiff, machine-like presence in the post that he once was. No, he’s not the Tim Duncan of the East, but his inside/outside game has taken strides. The 18-foot jumper is all but a given, and now the baby jump hooks and quick moves to the basket are becoming more and more frequent. The results? Horford pretty much shares the team lead in scoring at 17 points per game, more or less equaling a struggling (and currently injured) Joe Johnson. He’s doing it from the center position, but there is no denying that playing more minutes at the power forward position is lending towards this trend. Only one question: is Al becoming a power forward? Okay, two: is Josh becoming a small forward? It may not really matter, as the versatility of lineups is the ultimate goal, right? However, the more minutes played in these roles, the more it seems that these guys are getting comfortable with them. It’s doubtful that we’ll see Smith play more at the 3 spot, but the same cannot be said of Al Horford, who seems to be quite comfortable at the 4 spot.

That brings up another set of questions. Will the Hawks morph into a team that plays Horford at center only when he is a a clear advantage at the position, or when he is equal to his opponent in size and strength? Or, will they only move him to the 4 when facing Dwight Howard or another larger/stronger center who has clear advantages on him? Having signed Al Horford to a healthy new extension and publicly (and some say, privately) disavowing any Josh Smith trade rumors, Atlanta is not likely going to bring in any “impact” center types of starting caliber. But, might they want to upgrade from the likes of Jason Collins and/or Zaza Pachulia? If this type of lineup strategy works best for the Hawks when they want to go large, can they get to the East Finals as currently constructed?

 

How Far Do They Go Without Joe?

As some of you have noted, the Hawks are 4 and 1 without Joe Johnson. Surely this is too small of a sample size to come to any solid conclusion. On the one hand, that’s a great record for a team playing without its best player and leading scorer. On the other hand, only one of those four wins came against a team that has a winning record. So how much does this team really miss him? We’ll find out as the Hawks take on the Spurs this friday, and teams such as Charlotte, Golden State, Oklahoma City, and New Orleans as the month rounds out. The Hawks are known for their roller coaster ways, and yet this team has shown an ability to win on the road that it did not have last season. Is this a fluke or not? We’ll find out.

 

One way or another, the Hawks look like the Detroit model on paper, at least offensively, and at least when they play according to head coach Larry Drew’s specifications. The offense is more spread out among those who are able to take advantage of it. Here’s a question for you: Is this due more in part to Larry Drew’s scheme, or is it due moreso to the timing of Josh and Al’s development?

169 comments Add your comment

lukas

December 10th, 2010
9:09 pm

Hawks need to control Spurs’s guards and keep the bigs in the paint. This is a game where JT0 defense might be useful. If Marvin can’t contribute offensively, he must play lock down defense and add some rebounds.

drmaryb (*_*)

December 10th, 2010
9:23 pm

Blu-Ray
(High Def)

Excellent and Insightful editorial as expected.
Happy Holidays!

Josh hot that three! Confidently with some swagger, his outside jumper looks no worse than Lebron or Wade, actually Josh is becoming a better out-side shooter than both those guys!

Josh may become a Super-Star if he keeps this up!
Kudos to The Rook! – Larry Drew, HC. Coach has encouraged Josh to shoot and now Josh is shooting like a believer! Great coaching there.

Hawks were ready to play tonight. Rise Up!
Let’s Go!

niremetal

December 10th, 2010
9:24 pm

DaJuan Blair commits about 5 fouls per minute. Why the refs let him get away with it is beyond me.

lukas

December 10th, 2010
9:33 pm

Ball is not moving AT ALL.

lukas

December 10th, 2010
9:36 pm

Jamal and Bibby vs George Hill and TP. If LD does not adjust, we’ll lose by double digits.

lukas

December 10th, 2010
10:21 pm

Quietly, a solid game from the invisible man.

niremetal

December 10th, 2010
10:24 pm

Mo, Damien, and Marvin all looking good tonight, in no small part because no one of them has had to chase Manu around all night. Adding Damien was key.

lukas

December 10th, 2010
10:27 pm

Hoow many steals already?

niremetal

December 10th, 2010
10:30 pm

They left the feed on during the commercial break on League Pass. The Spurs announcers were laughing at something. They sounded like Beavis and Butthead. Priceless.

lukas

December 10th, 2010
10:40 pm

Weak game by Horford tonight: bad passes, poor decisions with the ball, weak defense, fouls. His stats looks good, the real story is other.

niremetal

December 10th, 2010
10:44 pm

Josh throws a 3/4 court pass straight to Bonner, then puts his hands on top of his head while the Spurs run it back, then makes a half-assed swipe at Hill as he goes past him. That was 2 plays after Bibby made a dumb turnover. Lead goes from 5 to 10 in about 45 seconds (or so it seemed). *sigh*

STEEL

December 10th, 2010
10:45 pm

The Hawks are just too dumb

lukas

December 10th, 2010
10:46 pm

We have NO PERSONNEL to guard their guards!! ball game!!

lukas

December 10th, 2010
10:49 pm

Aparently, we might wake up tomorrow with Miami at first place in the division. ESPN is having an orgasm about that idea.

niremetal

December 10th, 2010
10:52 pm

The Spurs have always been masters of the drive-and-dish. They did it to perfection in the 4th and they didn’t miss their 3s. Meanwhile, the Hawks turned the ball over all the damned time. Josh went to the bench because he was making a plurality of the bonehead plays, but it didn’t matter.

As I say that, Jamal blows an open layup. I think I’ve seen 5 of those for the Hawks this game.

You can’t beat the Spurs unless you bring your best down the stretch. We certainly didn’t do that in the 4th.

lukas

December 10th, 2010
11:02 pm

Niremetal,

You cannot beat the Spurs with Jamal and Bibby playing together. Jamal was leading scorer, but for every point he scored, George hill or Manu or TP scored as well. In resume:

1. No defense at the top: Bibby and Jamal vs TP, Hill and Manu.
2. Bonehead plays down the strech. Coming from josh doesn’t surprise me, but coming from Al they do.
3. Iso offense when Jamal was playing the point.
4. The bench made things worse.

This was a game where JJ’s defense might have been a difference. Even Teague’s defense might have been a difference, but he’s clearly in the dog house.

vava74

December 11th, 2010
6:14 am

Astro,

If you want to keep record: I fell asleep again and woke up down 4 in the 4th quarter when I checked on my iphone the score.

kept the ESPN game track open and when I turned the phone off to sleep again the lead had gone up to 8.

I am not sure if I was the culprit, but there you go, we were doing fine and dandy whilst I was fast asleep…

vava74

December 11th, 2010
6:26 am

Now, on serious note:

Ray, please apologize to niremetal, Collins did an excellent job on Duncan.

Overall, we had a good game, we hustled, battled on the boards, contested shots, got good steals and blocks. No problem there IMO.

The offensive execution was another matter. With Jamal on the floor the offense stalled whenever it wasn’t him getting the points. He did have a terrific first half but again his second half was typically worse.

However, we did get canned by the refs horribly: Powell had 4 plays stopped or missed at the rim.

He got fouled at least in 2 of those plays. One of them was pretty crucial.

DeJuan Blair also got away with at least 10 fouls in pushes and shoves. In one of them he threw away Powell 5 meters away from the basket clearly pushing him with his arm to the point of finishing the movement with his outstretched arm. Clearer than that only Howard’s fouls which never get called.

The foul called on Bibby in the 4th was also an horrible call, Wilkins had a clean steal BEFORE any contact between Bibby and Hill.

There were other calls in the first half as well which went the wrong way.

That was a very important factor IMO.

The missed defensive rotations to close out the shooters were the direct consequence of our difficulty in defending dribble penetration.

There I believe that Drew botched the line up. Bibby had a decent game defensively (within his capabilities) but was clearly winded at the end of the game.

I think Teague should have gotten a few minutes as a “force a change of pace defender”.

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
10:06 am

Vava,

Collins did a good job on Duncan for the relatively short time that he was guarding Duncan. Unfortunately, we had Horford guarding Duncan for most of the game, and Horford did not do such a great job…

Pissed about Josh’s post-game “I coulda been the difference” comment. First off, he was blowing coverages repeatedly when he was in the game. Second, even if he hadn’t been, you don’t say sh!t like that if you’re the team captain. You just don’t. That’s a backhand at his teammates that were in the game, whether he intended it to be or not.

vava74

December 11th, 2010
11:11 am

nire,

I would not say short, they had quite a few possessions one on one and that was significant.

I think Pops saw that and kept Duncan off the floor because he was not being effective against Collins and he did not wanted to risk having his team look for their captain when he clearly was not delivering it.

As for Josh, plain horrible “leadership”.

Unfortunately Josh is full of himself and… full of sh!t most of the times.

vava74

December 11th, 2010
11:25 am

I’ve been posting consistently on Smoove’s blog calling him out for his shortcomings.

I am waiting for my IP to be blocked at any moment now… :-D

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
11:51 am

I really, truly think Al should have been made sole captain. Ironically, Mo Evans has sounded the most a leader in the post-game comments, but that doesn’t mean he’s saying the same things to his teammates (or that his teammates are listening).

Kelvin

December 11th, 2010
11:57 am

Listen, let’s be honest and objective if we can. First, the Hawks are pretenders. They will make the playoffs, but exit in the first or second round. They’ve only beaten one elite team this year Orlando, and that was more of an aberration than a trend. Secondly, this our team for the next two to three years because of the contracts we are stuck with. The problem with being mediocre in the NBA is that it’s difficult to improve unless you start over. Why? Because you are going to get pretty much the same results from the players you have and it’s rare that you can draft a player from a non-lottery position that will come in and help you. So, this is what I see happening with the Hawks. In a few years when the fans have grown weary of first and second round playoff exits, the ownership and GM (either current or new) will decide to trade-off expiring contracts and start over by re-entering the lottery. Just like we did a few years ago. Will the cycle ever end?

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
12:30 pm

O'Brien

December 11th, 2010
7:05 pm

Twin did a good job on Duncan (who didnt play the 4th).

“I just thought the team that was on the court was doing the job, so Manu and Timmy stayed in the bench,” Gregg Popovich said. “Sometimes there’s a certain flow going on in a game and a group is doing well, so there’s no reason to change it.” .

I like Pop. Great coach. As for Josh and his comment, did he forget that he had 4 turnovers during the game?

Jamal was -20, and Bibby was -17. Parker was +13, and Hill was +20. We really missed JJ’s defense.

I thought LD would have given Teague a few minutes, because we need more defense from our guards.

If teague is not the guy, Hawks need a solid packup PG. We can’t rely on Bibby and Jamal every night

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
7:46 pm

Good adjustment to change the lineup so that Josh doesn’t have to chase Granger around all night.

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
7:51 pm

I love having Marvin and then Damien guard Granger. Marvin takes a step back and uses his long arms to bother Granger, and then Wilkins comes in and gets right in his grill. Two different, effective styles. Individually, maybe Granger would eventually break one or the other down after a few possessions. But with the change-up, Granger hasn’t been able to find any sort of rhythm yet.

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
7:59 pm

And now Mo is on him and bodying him up before he even touches the ball. Man.

Have I mentioned what a difference having Damien makes? Because it’s not my imagination that Mo has played much better the past 2-3 games, is it?

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
8:00 pm

Mo forces Granger to call timeout while he’s falling out of bounds. Lovin it. Having some competition seems to have sparked him.

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
9:16 pm

That was a Man’s rebound and putback by Josh.

vava74

December 11th, 2010
10:06 pm

An apparently nice win. Again with me sleeping.

Back to sleep now and wait for the 6.30am alarm that will allow me to watch the game with the calm and quietness needed for a good analysis.

On Wilkins: more than satisfied, I am puzzled on why on hearth he was unsigned??? It’s a shame that he isn’t 2 inches taller, but his wingspan and wide shoulders seems to compensate…

O'Brien

December 11th, 2010
10:46 pm

Didnt see the game, but I’m glad for the win. Sounds like the combination of Marvin, Damien and Mo made Granger work really hard. Both Granger and Hibbert were 3-14.

Good to see Teague got some PT, and finished with 7 points, 8 rebounds and 2 assists. And great game Al. 16, 16 and 8.

nire,

It makes you wonder why Rick didnt bring Damien in for a tryout in the offseason. Imagine if we had Damien all season? I think we would have won at least one more game if we had Damien all season.

My question is, when JJ comes back, who loses minutes?

niremetal

December 11th, 2010
11:46 pm

O’Brien,

My guess is that Mo and Marvin will see their minutes cut the most. One thing that might be interesting to watch is whether we go against Orlando with a lineup of Bibby-JJ-Smoove-Horford-Twin, given the success of our “big” lineup against them last week.

vava74

December 12th, 2010
2:01 am

I am up! ready to watch the game!

nire, OB,

For me its bewildering that Wilkins had not been called earlier to sign with us following his rookie try outs when he went undrafted.

Out of respect for ‘Nique and being just a small measure of nepotism he should have been signed by us.

In relation to matching up against ORL, I think we definitively need to go with that line up…

the sad fact I learned during what we have seen of this season is that although Horford is a very nice kid and an incredible learner (surpassing greatly your – nire’s – expectations of evolution as an offensive player), when he is faced with Howard, Shaq and, given Blair’s success, anyone else with a really big body, he craps his pants and wilts…

Big Ray

December 12th, 2010
8:57 am

Nice rebound win by the Hawks over an improved opponent. I didn’t figure we’d beat the red hot Spurs without playing mostly mistake-free basketball, and what do ya know? We lost due to mistakes.

Clearly we are still better than the Pacers by double figures, and we proved it. That’s always good to see, especially after a loss.

I don’t know who was guarding Granger (ahem, ahem), but he shot a gawdawful 3 of 14 from the field. In fact, holding the Pacers to 83 points total was a fairly decent defensive effort. And since the Pacers are staying around the .500 mark, we have to give them credit as a quality opponent. Barely.

Horford and Smith continue to show themselves to be this season’s early MVP candidates. Maybe a co-MVP?

Smith stands out for leading the starters in points and hitting 9 of 10 free throw attempts. His jumper and his free throws have improved by quite a stretch. Horford stands out by grabbing a game-high 16 rebounds and dishing out a team high 8 assists.

Jeff Teague got 8 rebounds??!

Jason Collins has been good enough to take some of Zaza’s minutes lately. His performance against the Spurs was encouraging.

Josh Powell continues to be the absolute best end-of-the-bench, minimum-salary guy we’ve signed in the last decade at least.

You really have to wonder just what you could reasonably trade Jamal Crawford for at this point. Without Joe, there is no other explosion in the backcourt waiting to happen. Dude proves his worth again. He’s a gunslinger.

Big Ray

December 12th, 2010
9:09 am

Vava ,

Al “craps and wilts?”

16 and 10 against Orlando. 19 and 9 against San Antonio. Dude, what are your standards?

I seem to recally you giving me a metric ton of ish over the summer and early fall for “raving” (as you put it) about Joakim Noah as a more natural center. Uh-huh. Shoe on the other foot, now? ;)

honest_abe

December 12th, 2010
12:38 pm

good job ray…

i wish the hawks could somehow trade jj.. even if they have to eat some of the contract it’s the only way the hawks can have the financial flexibility to get to the next step. give me a draft pick and several expiring contracts.. the hawks have proved, even if its only been 7 games that they can compete without joe. i don’t see the difference in the hawks with or without jj being worth 125 million.

O'Brien

December 12th, 2010
2:26 pm

vava,

Agreed on Damien. Even when Marvin and Mo were out, they didnt bring him in. In my opinion, Rick needs to be more proactive at times. I feel like he is reactive.

As for Horford crapping his pants, I think you’re making it sound worse than it really is. I agree that he doesnt play as well when matched up against Shaq, Howard, and Duncan. But he still makes an effort.

nire,

I wonder if Jamal will have his minutes cut. I think JJ being injured was good for Jamal because it allowed him to showcase his skills to potential suitors.

honest_abe,

I dont see the Hawks trading JJ for at least 3 years. And although we have been competitive without him, its still early.

Unless we can win in Boston, in OKC, at New Orleans without JJ, Hawks still need him.

Plus although Jamal has had some good games, he goes cold sometimes. We just need JJ to come back healthy, and be the JJ of old, not the JJ from earlier in the season.

Ken Strickland

December 12th, 2010
2:55 pm

I did a little checking and compared this yrs Hawks with last yrs, and here’s what I came up with. Last yr, after a 6gm win steak, we were 19-6 after 25gms, but we went 4-7 over our next 11gms. This yr we’re 16-9 after 25gms, and if we go 7-4 over the next 11gms, we’ll match last yrs record of 23-13 after 36gms.

Orlando is the only divisional foe with more wins than the Hawks, and Boston is the only other Eastern Conference team with more wins. We’re only one(1)gm out of first place, and we have as many wins as the Lakers. The Hawks are turning into a very good team, which is especially noteworthy with JJ out.

JPowell gives us an OFF weapon off the bench other than JaCrawford, especially on the frontline, and DWilkins gives us a versatile DEF option. It appears JCollins has replaced Zaza as our #1 backup center.

Sautee

December 12th, 2010
8:51 pm

vava,

you said this about Horford: “when he is faced with Howard, Shaq and, given Blair’s success, anyone else with a really big body, he craps his pants and wilts…”

OK, I’ll first say that Al DOES have trouble matching up with Dwight and Shaq. At least so far. Remember that the Bad Boys owner MJ for a few years. NO, I’m NOT comparing Al to MJ. But sometimes you have to grow past an obstacle.

Roy Hibbert is listed at 7′ 2″, 278 lbs. Taller than Shaq, heavier than Dwight.

Is that not a really big body?

Hibbert: 3-11 fg

Pacers coach Jim O’Brien gave credit to Horford for holding Hibbert to six points, nine below his average.

“He shut down Roy,” O’Brien said. “He didn’t give Roy anything in the low post. He was more physical than Roy. He’s a heck of a player. They have a really good basketball team.”

More physical than 7′ 2″ 278, a very big body.

Is that crapping and wilting?

Sautee

December 12th, 2010
8:53 pm

vava74

December 13th, 2010
3:12 am

Sautee,

Hibbert is not a physical player. He is heavy mostly because he his extremely long.

Ray,

Drew was forced to match Al with lesser opponents (Bass, Blair) and in all three games against foes which combine a given physicality and some “status” Al is clearly feeling his a-hole a bit loose.

He crapped his pants big time against Bos and his usually reliable shot was tight and short for most of the game against SA.

It’s visible that he gives in under that pressure: he shoots scared around the rim, doe not use his speed and shies away from contact.

One final note: in relation to last year, he looks less committed to bang and more in love with his perimeter game (which is fine and dandy whenever the pressure of a big opponent is not there).

The ORL game was – unfortunately – an abnormality with most ORL players in sub-par condition and without Jameer-Howard pick n’ rolling us to death.

vava74

December 13th, 2010
3:46 am

doc

December 13th, 2010
10:26 am

yeah interesting find vava thanks for passing it along to us.

it seems horford, powell, marvin jamal and bibby are not the way to close games. maybe josh was right, he was frustrated he wasnt out there to want to make a difference as it pushed powell into the spotlight. pretty vivid when you look at it on popcorn as to who and how they finish.

really glad to see the team hold focus for longer periods and showing fewer lapses the way it did at the beginning of the season against all comers. my hope is it is the maturity, focus of the tiger and the teachings of drew coming to fruition. maybe it wasnt lack of desire but confusion at the start of the season.

Astro Joe

December 13th, 2010
10:51 am

doc, I also think the team is more focused without Joe… because they know they have to be more focused without one of their big 3 in order to secure a W. I think Joe’s absence is also bringing out the best in LD. I thought he started out doing too much of what has been done before but with Joe out, he has been forced to try different combos and I think that tinkering is also keeping everyone on their toes. The team seemed too comfortable/bored with the status quo to maintain focus, but LD’s recent experimentation since Joe’s injury has resulted in more engaged players. I’m not sure if the “moving pieces theme” is sustainable, but it’s working now and that’s what matters most. (And it is also instilling confidence in the team that they can survive/thrive without a key figure).

Lastly, the team has gotten a good contribution from either Powell and/or Damien in the past few games. It’s been a while since someone other than Jamal has provided a good contribution from the bench.

doc

December 13th, 2010
11:23 am

it is nice to have a coach that fosters it as well, aj. yes woody’s way worked too but vets languished on woody’s bench never finding the time to get to nba game speed. wilkens is huge for us as maybe smith could have been or other well known names they practiced with and never got a call from our gm. glad our gm finally got it right after waiting so long to make that addition. d w’s name has come up before i believe.

Astro Joe

December 13th, 2010
11:35 am

doc, it helps that the GM brought in guys like Powell and Damien who aren’t taking Geritol at half-time. Funny thing is that Powell isn’t the banger I thought he was but his offensive skills are far better than I expected. We’re still getting a mixed-bag from Zaza, Teague and Evans (likely injury-related in Mo’s case).

doc

December 13th, 2010
11:44 am

funny, i heard woody wanted sheed also in geritol group and headed out of the league at the same pace as smith. woody rarely acclaimed guys, especially bench guys, the way LD does and it shows in the effort he gets is my guess based on past experience. it was like he wanted to keep a lid on it.

vava74

December 13th, 2010
11:48 am

Ray,

Before you jump on me about Horford’s production against SA he was 2-6 during the first 2 quarters with his shot looking quite bad.

He only came back to his usual self (actually better than usual) in the 3rd quarter.

vava74

December 13th, 2010
12:24 pm

I think that Wilkins’ signing may be having an impact on our team’s DNA.

He brings so much hustle coped with savvy that it may start to be contagious.

This is quite different from what Mario West brought, which was mostly out of control hustle and ultimately a joke.

… which was mostly entertainment