Hawks look for that first credible win

The Indiana Pacers are no longer a pushover, but until they become a playoff team, the Hawks are going to have to settle for having another game with an asterisk beside it. On Friday night, they get another chance to prove that they can beat the good teams, too. The good news is that the Hawks will be at home, and the Dallas Mavericks will be coming off of what will likely be a hard fought game against the Chicago Bulls. Well, that should be good news. If the Hawks win, would this one come with another asterisk?

 

Offense Switches Gears

The offensive game plan that Larry Drew instituted has coincided with the growth of some of the Hawks’ younger players, while changing the game of others. Reigning Sixth Man of the Year Jamal Crawford finds himself in a different position from last year. Oh sure, he’s still the top offensive sub off the bench, but no longer is he second on the team in scoring and shot attempts. Fact is, Jamal is now fourth in both categories, giving way to big men Josh Smith and Al Horford. Things are a little different for Joe Johnson as well, what with his scoring average dipping to just over 19 points per game, though arguably his struggles from the field are a major factor. Still, what once seemed like the only sword Atlanta could live or die by, has become a strong point that finally has adequate support. Remember the days when we talked about having credible offensive threats alongside Joe Johnson? Well, it seems those days are here.

Al Horford has vaulted to the position of second leading scorer for the team, averaging exactly one bucket less per contest than Joe Johnson. It’s not just the increased shot attempts that has brought this about. It’s also the way Horford has worked on his game. Still lacking a couple of sure-fire post moves, Horford has enough in his arsenal to get some baskets on the block, but it’s his perimeter shot that does so much damage these days. Not only can Al hit it on occasion, he can hit it several times in a row before ducking back in for a running baby hook or a baseline turnaround shot. The best part? How about a 63.7 field goal percentage? All of that in just a tad over 31 minutes a game, and you have to wonder what this guy will do if he gets to play 35 per night.

Josh Smith’s game has also taken on a transformation. While he may still have maddening moments where he tries to do too much, Smith has managed to improve areas that seemed all but lost last season. Believe it or not, the man’s shooting stroke has improved, even if we still think we’re daydreaming after 12 games. The unexpected prowess from beyond the arc notwithstanding, Josh looks like he actually worked hard on that part of his game. Here’s the part that flies under the radar, however: free throws. That’s right, after stinking it up from the charity stripe last season, smith is now right back up under 70%, where he belongs. It could get better from here. But for now, we get to watch him shoot a good percentage from the field, and hope that this never stops. Is Josh’s jumpshot legit, or is it just a mirage?

Either way, the Hawks aren’t one-dimensional on offense anymore, and they no longer are front-court challenged when it comes to bonafide scoring. Between the two, the Hawks might just have three all-stars at this season’s half way point. You never know.

 

HAWKS VS. MAVS

Dallas has always been dangerous, and like Atlanta in recent years, they’re good for an early season run. We know who all of the usual suspects are. So much is possible with the cerebral Jason Kidd in the game. Dirk Nowitzki is going to score (and rebound). Jason Terry is a dangerous super sub who can shoot his team to a win. Juan Barea is anathema to any team that has trouble keeping up with quick little point guards. But what about some of the newer faces on the squad? Shawn Marion and Caron Butler have seen better days, what with both of them struggling from the deep perimeter. However, neither guy can be slept on completely. Here’s where the Mavs differ the most, though – in the post. Gone is the apathetic Eric Dampier. In his place is Tyson Chandler, who just happens to be backed up by Brendan Haywood.

There’s the rub. If the Mavs want to, they can go pretty big against us. We’ll be looking at height all night long. Of course, the Atlanta advantage is in speed and full court capability. If the Hawks can get out and run, they’ll give the Mavs fits. The only thing is, if you want to run, you have to rebound on the defensive end. If you want to rebound, you have to play defense (or hope the other team misses a lot of shots). Naturally, this is two areas the Hawks are having trouble in. Defend and rebound, and the Mavs will leave the Highlight Factory with a loss. Fail to do so, and we could be looking at a double digit loss.

Matchups to Watch

Will Larry Drew try to match size with size? Let’s assume he’ll put his five best guys on the floor to start things off, then go from there. So…..

Horford vs. Chandler – Look for Al to draw Tyson Chandler out with his jumper, and see if Nowitzki gets switched onto him. If not, Horford will torch the Mavs as long as his shot is on. On the other end of the floor, Horford won’t have much trouble denying Chandler position in the post, but he’ll have to be careful of quick dump-off passes from the Dallas guards.

Jose Juan Barea vs. Jeff Teague – the Teague watch continues! The second year pg will get his chance to continue proving that he’s a viable option off the bench as he goes up against the Dallas slickster, who has caused the Hawks enough grief in the past. Teague has the speed and on ball tenacity to stay with Barea. But will he have the savvy to stay out of foul trouble?

Josh Smith vs…..?

How will Dallas guard Smith, particularly if they start getting burned by Horford’s 18 foot jumper? Brendan Haywood is too slow, and really so it Chandler (though he’s quicker and a better leaper than Haywood). The Mavs won’t want Nowitzki in foul trouble, and neither Shawn Marion nor Caron Butler have the size and strength. This could be a big key to the game, as Dallas will have to choose which Hawks big man to clamp down on. The Mavs say they have been winning with defense. The Hawks will challenge that idea.

 

What are YOUR keys to the game?

218 comments Add your comment

lukas

November 22nd, 2010
8:54 pm

vava,

Hawks are near hitting rock-bottom, which is a good thing because it will force changes. Bibby-JJ-Josh-Al-Twin: that’s what LD has to try!! Send Marvin to Turkey, give JJ the rest he needs, and address the mindset of this team. Detroit wasn’t as athletic as the Hawks, nor are the Celtics, but they are better teams, and part of that is because mindset and chemestry.

lukas

November 22nd, 2010
8:56 pm

vava,

I wanted to say make some moves but ASG is cheap and Sund is not that good as a GM.

vava74

November 22nd, 2010
9:00 pm

Teague played well during his first shift. Got to the rim for a lay up, a floater, kept in front of his man.

His second shift was not good since he left Nate alone in the corner 2 or 3 times but in what that differs from Bibby when can’t find through the picks?

Let him play and shout at him, but for goodness sakes, let him play.

doc

November 22nd, 2010
9:01 pm

bringing more on the culture from the other blog:

well for so long i admired the intelligence of LD, however:

“They have a blend of veteran players with the core of their team, and it’s a lot easier to fit in a vet like Shaq,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said. “If we brought him in here, it would be a little tougher. I don’t think his personality would have fit with our guys. It makes more sense to have veteran guys around him.”

is just plain stupid.

rivers:

Celtics coach Doc Rivers said there have been no issues with O’Neal accepting his role on a team with established players and strong personalities.

“We have good veterans,” he said. “We are going to do it our way, nobody else’s way, no matter who comes in the locker room. None of that individual stuff will be tolerated.”

guess we got bad vets.

when are these guys going to grow up?

spiraling down folks, the crest was a fun place to view things. organic growth anyone?

lukas

November 22nd, 2010
9:05 pm

Melvin,

Thanks for the advise, jeje.

Melvin

November 22nd, 2010
9:07 pm

doc,

I wouldnt read too much into that LD statement about Shaq. I think he was being the company man and not wanted to bad mouth or seem in disagreement with his boss(es).

vava74

November 22nd, 2010
9:10 pm

doc,

Actually, LD is perfectly right.

Shaq would be a disaster over here and to think otherwise is being foolish.

Shaq is fitting in with the Celts precisely because of the type of franchise and the fact that their core is proven with 1 title and 1 finals.

Here, Shaq would demand more time and more shots than he would be able to convert into useful contributions.

Melvin

November 22nd, 2010
9:11 pm

Vava,

More boos as #Celtics lead up to 85-54. Teague frustrated in huddle, @Al_Horford trying to calm things down

Melvin

November 22nd, 2010
9:15 pm

Maybe a nice long road trip will do wonders for the Hawks. Give those guys time to bond with each other. This early season home stand has been a disater..

Melvin

November 22nd, 2010
9:18 pm

I cant believe that I havent stop my DVR yet..

doc

November 22nd, 2010
9:28 pm

well stinger summed iot up by saying we looked small and intimidated. ouch, but very true we are small.

vava74

November 22nd, 2010
9:35 pm

doc,

that’s stupid. many teams stop Shaq, even with small or fairly small players.

what we lack is not size, it’s balls and LD stop repeating Woody’s mistakes.

tonight, until we saw the reserves playing together during the 4th, we could not tell that if we were coached by LD or by Woody.

Collins should have played early against Shaq, Al moved to Garnett and Josh either played the SF or benched.

Teague should have been the first off the bench to slow down Nate.

All basic and simple stuff which would have guaranteed a more competitive showing.

vava74

November 22nd, 2010
9:37 pm

Having JJ injured playing as he is now is also pointless.

Wade has a similar injury. Tonight he is 1-11 and Miami is trailing by 12 in the 4th at home against IND.

doc

November 22nd, 2010
9:38 pm

melvin my sentiments exactly. i thought that myself. again, it wasnt what he was saying when shaq was still in play.

ouch look at marvin’s line for the night. shaq had more rebounds than josh, al and marvin together?

yeah agree, shaq wouldnt have fit in because he would have beat the hell out of our little guys in practice while being delegated to the second string.

doc

November 22nd, 2010
9:41 pm

well vava i ddint see what you had written but you are right they dont have balls and shaq would have mercilessly pounded that into them on a daily basis. sad reason a guy doesnt fit in, that is double stupid.

seems there was a come to jesus meeting after the game players and coaches only. hmmm

doc

November 22nd, 2010
9:42 pm

Astro Joe

November 22nd, 2010
9:46 pm

The good news is that we play NJ and DC next. So our 2-6 run (since the 6-0 start) should promptly end. Thank goodness the regular season is a secondary concern… or else I’d be worried. 68 games left until the true test begins.

Hey Big Ray, you can keep the same blog title for another few games… Hawks are ,em>still looking for their first credible win.

vava74

November 22nd, 2010
9:49 pm

doc,

stop it already.

Shaq would never accept to be in ATL if he did not get starter’s minutes and shot.

Shaq never brough ANYTHING to any locker room and ATL would not be the first place.

Shaq is lazy, has a bad attitude and does not set good examples at anything.

BOS is the perfect set up for him because he feels that he has a shot at playing the finals against Kobe and get his 5th ring against him.

Without that very specif motivation and setting, Shaq would be even fatter and more out of shape than he already is.

Melvin

November 22nd, 2010
9:56 pm

Miami has attempted 38 FTs to Indy 11 and the Heat are still losing by 13pts with 3 left in the game… Lebron has shot 15 by himself…

vava74

November 22nd, 2010
9:58 pm

there is nothing like somebody else’s misery to sweeten ours a bit… :-D

doc

November 22nd, 2010
9:59 pm

build a culture and they will come vava. until then you talk about boys having balls. you start with a credible coach that has been around the block. good luck LD, the clock may have started running. is this the second coming of the sixer’s blow up last year when asked to do the princeton shuffle? get well on nets and dc or else.

Melvin

November 22nd, 2010
10:03 pm

vava

One plus to signing Shaq is, he wouldn’t be on another team causing the Hawks problems. So that would have left only one center in the league to give Al problems, Howard. Also, I think we would have seen Horford playing more PF allowing Shaq extended mins with a 3 man rotation at the PF,C. Then the Hawks could have moved ZaZa who is not a good compliment to Al for another rotational player or to a team under the cap for picks/PTE to save monies…

niremetal

November 22nd, 2010
10:06 pm

Anyone who thinks Shaq has balls is out of their mind. Unless you think by “balls” you mean “lazy and fat, but secure in the knowledge that no one can move your fat ass off the block.”

vava74

November 22nd, 2010
10:12 pm

Unfortunately, the same way Hawks fans think too highly about Shaq’s current ability, so does Al.

Al is a fine player, but he is proving to be a pansy… instead of a warrior.

vava74

November 22nd, 2010
10:15 pm

well, I am out.

not given up on LD already, but getting close.

he needs to make a significant shuffle in the rotation and a good start would be to get JJ on the injured list, ditch Jamal and force feed Teague more minutes.

If he does not do at least these last two, he will be out by Christmas.

Melvin

November 22nd, 2010
10:17 pm

Well, if you want to know why Jamal play has been off this year it’s b/c he’s uncertain…LOL

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/11/22/jamal-crawford-admits-his-uncertain-future-has-affected-his-play/

Melvin

November 22nd, 2010
10:30 pm

From Sekou’s Twitter:

“”RT @christomasson: Shaq on why didn’t sign with Atlanta: “(Hawks GM) Rick Sund was bull (bleeping). Want me to spell it out for you?’’””

doc

November 22nd, 2010
10:43 pm

yeah vava i said it on the other blog, ld’s clock is now officially ticking. he sounded pretty perturbed to say the least, be interesting if the team responds or lays another egg. if they do sund had better go to his a list this time before it is too late for this season. hubie where are you?

nire, i didnt say shaq has balls only agreed with vava that we didnt and shaq if he were here and full of himself and given some license to do it he would beat some balls into these guys or watch them cry and run out of the sand box. kg took it to big baby, that may be what is needed here only a true vet. look, i know your shaq bias so it really doesnt matter what i say, only he delivered tonight and has done a pretty good job filling the middle until perkins gets back. he has not been the celts problem.

melvin, that is a strategy among the true elite. i even read it was a reason barnes was brought to l a so they wouldnt have to face him in a match up with the magic.

at sekou …. why didnt you say the real while you were here boss?

Melvin

November 22nd, 2010
10:51 pm

doc,

Those were not Sekou words. He retweeted that post from the fan house writer Chris Tomasson whom I guess interviewed Shaq before the game. In Sekou defense, he did say this summer he was going to have a rally in front the Highlight Factory for the Hawks to sign Shaq.

O'Brien

November 22nd, 2010
11:45 pm

If I’m LD, I would start 5 bench players tomorrow night. That’s the best way to show accountability is is by benching players.

And by starting 5 bench players, the media Would have a field day, but maybe the players Would be embarrassed enough where they come together.

niremetal

November 23rd, 2010
12:11 am

I think that resurrecting Winston Churchill and installing him as head coach might be the only way to get these players to play with heart. Failing that, it’s rapidly approaching the point where at least one member of the sacred core needs to be benched or traded to make a statement.

For now, back to watching the ATP Finals…

vava74

November 23rd, 2010
4:15 am

There is no wayto put it softly so here it goes:

Al Horford craped his pants AGAIN against Howard/Shaq.

Since Al is supposed to be our leader, we have nowhere to go like this.

He is a very nice player and has improved greatly every single year, but he is soft and instead of manning up when the going gets tough, he craps his pants.

This is our team’s bench mark. The guy everyone (outside) looks to be the leader for the future is SOFT.

The we have Josh, who seems to be the emotional leader and the guy who sets the tone: another softie who thinks he is Magic Johnson instead of working like Rodman.

Couple this with a guy who was not born to lead (JJ) a one dimentional PG (Bibby) and a shot happy turn over machine (Jamal) and te Houdini of small forwards (Marvin) who does not have the skill set to play SF on offense and …

WE HAVE A MESS!!!

wordsmithtom

November 23rd, 2010
5:41 am

Somebody get me the address for the Hawks locker room so I can send them an Xmas present. I’m shopping for Granny Panties, loose fitting ones.

J Crawford leading in rebounds and assists. NO EXCUSE FOR THIS STARTERS NO EXCUSE

On second thought: BUY YOUR OWN PANTIES, GIRLS…you got plenty of money

wordsmithtom

November 23rd, 2010
5:47 am

Now, after that rant, I’ll say this. Maybe this is what these guys need. I mentioned two weeks ago after the Celtics smacked down Miami that Drew needed to show these guys that tape because that’s what they would do to them if they let them. Well, we came in limp-wristed and git fisted. Good for Boston.
Unfortunately, the bench played about as bad, save Jordan, as the starters. Maybe this wakes up Sund to the fact his core is unbalanced and to LD that his core is soft. Changes will have to be made. I’m with the idea of sitting JJ until his hand heals, letting J Crawford play.
They need to act quickly or this can get ugly if we lose the fan base altogether.

vava74

November 23rd, 2010
6:10 am

Excellent press conference by LD available on foxsportssouth

Now he needs to back his words with actions and bench the starters until they man up.

I don’t mind losing 5 in a row with the reserves.

vava74

November 23rd, 2010
6:29 am

Just watched the first 5 minutes again.

Guys grabbing their shorts and looking winded and wasted:

Josh – looked awful, no lift, no energy, body language all wrong since the tip off (which he lost to a guy with no lift)
Marvin – right on the first play he got stuck on the first pick and look unenergized fighting it.
Bibby – when he shot the FTs, he was clearly winded and grabbed his shorts. However, this is nothing new.
Al – well, I don’t know if he was actually winded and lacked energy or if he simply crapped his pants, or BOTH.

JJ – didn’t look winded, but did look a bit lethargic, however, his “style” is never very energetic.

Willie Coyote

November 23rd, 2010
7:10 am

The Celtics guarded Marvin with Ray Allen at times and what does Marvin do??? He shoots a double clutch fadeaway from 2 feet away from the basket; un-freakin-believeable. DUNK ON HIM!!!! SHOW SOME PRIDE IN YOUR ABILITY!!!

7-0 against lottery teams; 0-6 against contenders. Once again I will ask where are the “a win’s a win” people now?

It appears that Orlando ruined this team with the beatdown they handed us in last year’s playoffs. Snap out of it guys. You can compete but you choose not to. That is a disgrace.

O'Brien

November 23rd, 2010
8:10 am

vava,

All offseason and so far this season, LD has said all the right things. Unfortunately, this has not translated on the court.

And I’m still waiting for LD to hold players accountable, instead of just talking about it.

Start 5 bench players tonight. Is it drastic? Sure. But all the talk LD is talking has not had an effect.

From Mark Bradley’s article;

“It took the Hawks six years to stop listening to Mike Woodson. It has taken one month for them to tune out his successor.” .

Memo to Rick Sund. Woody was a problem. But he was not the only problem. Players are a problem too. And we dont have the right mix of players.

doc

November 23rd, 2010
9:08 am

vava said,

doc,

stop it already.

Shaq would never accept to be in ATL if he did not get starter’s minutes and shot.

Shaq never brough ANYTHING to any locker room and ATL would not be the first place.

Shaq is lazy, has a bad attitude and does not set good examples at anything.

nire said:

Anyone who thinks Shaq has balls is out of their mind. Unless you think by “balls” you mean “lazy and fat, but secure in the knowledge that no one can move your fat ass off the block.”

my thoughts; seems like shaq would have fit in well in this locker room. why would he try when everyone else has quit. shaq or anyone else is able to see it. this comment is really more of a comment on the play and attitude of the hawks as they are know made of today rather than one of we need shaq. please dont misunderstand that i think shaq could change what is going on in the locker room today.

heard dimetrov today on 790. pick it up and listen to it if possible on the 790 fan website if they are webcasting it. great interview, he gets it. first of all he sounds like a man in charge when he speaks. for that matter frank wren for better or worse sounds the same way. it is very different than the mouthpiece that is the hawks gm in rick sund. he never seems to be speaking his mind, only giving the spiel that he used to get the job or very carefully picking his words now so as to not say anything his bosses would not like to hear. yeah i am reading and listening between the lines, no evidence and gut talking pretty loud here.

the other thing that really rang hard and true was dimetrov is about building the pieces of a culture to compete at the level it is necessary to compete at. he says it is all about the now. unfortunately, this team was built for the future. so when does that come and when are the players to feel the urgency is now if they havent been taught that? it is about the culture and one that breeds this type of entitled lackadaisical attitudes. no team, to really compete has been done in the method this team tried it where it was built by the draft only. it didnt work in chicago when they tried it, may not fly in portland though they were closer, it may happen in okc, so it will be the first.

i dont think this core has got it unless a very smart and proven coach that these guys respect and know he has the guts to send them packing and has the control to do it arrives on the scene. if a new coach arrives on the scene he also has to convince owners he has the capability to get them a championship if they spend the money to compete with the big boys and go over their present budget. i dont think however that is the culture that gearon wants. he is the one playing in the sand box he dreamed about having from his school days on. my impression, i dont think he gets it either, it IS about the culture.

vava74

November 23rd, 2010
9:18 am

doc,

Shaq is always the first NOT TO SET THE EXAMPLE.

In Boston HE IS FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE, and that is why he is good fit there and would not be a good fit here.

Shaq would be the first guy to be swimming in strippers the night before a game, not the first to call out the guys and say that they should be professionals and take the WHOLE SEASON and ALL MATCHES SERIOUSLY.

The fact that you can’t or don’t want to realize this simple fact is BEWILDERING.

SHAQ WAS NEVER A LOCKER ROOM LEADER, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LOCKER ROOM CANCER.

Astro Joe

November 23rd, 2010
9:50 am

I think there was a 50/50 chance that Shaq qould have worked here. But there was a 10% chance that the status quo would work.

Shaq has NEVER played with a sense of urgency (in the regular season) so he would likely have done very little to help motivate guys when they needed a kick in the pants. In fact, he may have served too often as a human “chill pill” having the opposite desired impact on some of the core players. On the other hand, he would have instilled a “swagger” that the team has fed off in the past. Bibby first brought that swagger after his acquisition, the certainty of having a savvy assassin ready to shoot the dagger 3. Then Jamal brought some last year, he gave his team an emotional lift with every trick-dribble move or 4-point play. Shaq would have taken away any internal concerns about “being too small”, no team worries about size when Shaq is wearing their uniform. Likewise, any issues with half-court sets would be calmed when the team could rely on a still viable low-post option (for about 18-20 minutes a game).

Again, I easily see both sides of the Shaq story. But again, the odds (IMO) were FAR better with Shaq than with the status quo.

Astro Joe

November 23rd, 2010
10:09 am

MC’s ode to the Summer of Sameness:

Same group, new coach, and so far the same results. Actually, I can’t even say same results since the Hawks beat some good teams along the way to 53Ws and the No. 3 seed. They haven’t beaten any yet this season.

Astro Joe

November 23rd, 2010
10:18 am

This may be the most damning quote of the Hawks-playoff era (from Mo Evans):

“We don’t have an identity, unless it’s when things go bad we go the other way. Maybe that’s out identity and we don’t know it.”

O'Brien

November 23rd, 2010
10:20 am

I’m with AJ. Signing Shaq would have been a risk. But he would have gotten up for games against Orlando, Lakers, Boston etc. And we would need him in the playoffs.

And I think we could have found starter minutes for Shaq.

Center: Al (22), Shaq (26).
PF: Josh (35), Al (13).

Maybe we could have traded ZaZa, who knows. And I think Al and Shaq would play very well together. Imagine the lineup of Shaq, Al, and Josh when we go big?

Would Shaq have been a huge risk? Yes. But the bigger risk, as AJ puts it, is to promote Woody’s right hand man, and keep the same team intact.

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
12:47 pm

I agree with doc, Astro and OB. Signing Shaq out weights the risk issues. Heck, we have the same players and Mo (along with others) is saying the team has no identity now. On the nights that Shaq seem ineffective, they could always go back the normal lineup for extended mins. Let’s face it, the Hawks needed Shaq more important for the playoffs with the exception of the Orlando, Miami, Boston and LA games. Maybe the Spurs as well. Hawks have enough talent and size to play with all the other teams.

Melvin

November 23rd, 2010
12:54 pm

doc,

As for LD comments on Shaq. What’s so funny is the Hawks were interested enough in him to offer the vet min (reportedly) but are now saying that he would have disrupted the team chemistry…. Hmmm…

doc

November 23rd, 2010
12:59 pm

vava, dont put words in my mouth that i never came close to saying. i even made the strong point to say i was not implicating that shaq would be a leader only he would fit right in with these guys right now. to say you dont want him because of what you said about him runs true for ALL the hawks right now. so why trash shaq? i did see your tone about the team had become more generalized and i agree with your comments. i said these things in the off season t at least look out for them. i also repeat shaq would not have been the problem. however, if he had come here folks would have pointed their fingers inappropriately at him instead of where it needs to be pointed. for that reason alone i am glad he didnt come here.

i will speak my truth about shaq though. he wasnt the problem in cleveland, they are finding that out in miami. he wasnt the problem in miami nor in l a as they didnt win without him as he left until they found a few reloads in l a and yet to do in miami. he is outspoken and a huge target, that is all. i appreciate that as he would have called out few folks by now. only he would have been assessed the malcontent and cause. i see only a guy working hard with his teammates in boston that are working as hard as him now. no malcontent there nor prima donna. simple stuff easily lost in translation.

doc

November 23rd, 2010
1:08 pm

shaq right now is better than maybe all but two of the players on this team! really who is playing better than him? they wanted him to come here hold these little boys hands and not offend them to upset a chemistry that didnt exist? they wanted him to be paid the same frigging amount that the beloved collins is backing up to the window to get every week. i can see why shaq said, uh no thanks. why cant anyone else?

doc

November 23rd, 2010
1:19 pm

many of us said, somehow we have to get better in the off season. as astro said sameness didnt get it. thus far that point of view is valid until there is a defining win or two against legit teams. falling behind by over 20 points in five of the six tests against the better teams is not what i call a prepared and balanced team. i really dont care what you lose by because they were really never in a place to win in the comebacks. i was there for two of them and you could see the hump was too big. they have been out of those games. yes this team is better than it is playing. what does it take to get this team to play better is what LD and rick sund better be talking about today.

melvin good point. come here out our price and you fit right in. too funny.

Clyde

November 23rd, 2010
1:28 pm

They banned me from the other blog now I gotta come holla at LiL Ray. What Up Mane?

Now to the Hawks. The Head Coach wasn’t the only thing wrong with the Hawks but that’s the only change that was made. I’m seriously thinking the next move the Hawks need to make is trading Smooth.

Why? I think he’s the only person that’s worth something. No one wants JJ with his contract and everyone else is worthless besides Horford.

And #2 I think the Hawks need a change in mentality. Smooth is a great player but his attitude is sucks. All that complaining when things don’t go his way is not how leaders should act. It is taking a toll on the Hawks and he is not setting a good example for our young players.

Lets get rid of Smooth, move Horford to center and change the culture of the Hawks.