Hawks bits and pieces

Hang in there, Hawks fans. We’ll make it through this summer yet (or so I keep telling myself, anyway).

While things seem fairly quiet in free agency, and that would be for all NBA teams at the moment, a few tidbits are floating around that may prove to be a useful diversion for a minute or two. As we discuss those, I keep thinking about the missing Lorenzen Wright. Missing persons cases more often than not are either a false alarm, or they don’t end very nicely. But some do. And I hope that this is one of those where “all’s well that ends well.”  Peace and blessings on his family, who I’m sure are sick with worry. These kinds of things never seem to matter to people until they hit close to home. Again, I hope this ends well.

 

Tough Times

As much noise as we make about adding size and toughness to the roster, do we bother to consider that adding toughness doesn’t always mean adding a body? When the official announcement of the signing of former Lakers forward/center Josh Powell finally came down, one of the catch phrases was that he “adds toughness.” Well, if the Lakers say he’s a good guy and a good addition, I’ll take their word for it, at least to an extent. After all, Powell hasn’t played many minutes in L.A., so we don’t have a lot of visual evidence to review (other than some youtube clips) for confirmation. But what about the guys who were already on the roster? Can’t you add toughness….by simply becoming tougher?

If you ask me (and you didn’t, but guess what?) toughness is a state of mind. The body can be willing and able, but it’s no good if the spirit is weak. Avid Hawks fan and blogger Northcyde is one of the foremost fans calling for two of our key guys (Al Horford and Josh Smith) to play a lot tougher, as the success of this team depends heavily on that. Realistically, that can be the key difference between competing at the highest levels, or struggling to do so. Look no further than last season’s first round playoff series. The Hawks struggled mightily when Al Horford allowed himself to get out-toughed by Kurt Thomas, and Josh Smith allowed Ersan Ilyasova to out-hustle and outplay him for stretches at a time.

So what can the Hawks do to get tougher? What are Josh Smith and Marvin Williams doing to get tougher. Those are two guys who could really have an impact on the game if they bring it with more force. In fact, that’s the one thing that can really optimize a lineup of long, athletic players. Without it, much is wasted.

How does one change one’s mindset? Different people have different methods. And sometimes the body has to be brought up to speed with the mind. The idea is to be tough all the time, not just when backed into a corner and forced into “fight or flight” mode. Well, it seems one Hawk is going to give it a go in the offseason.  As noted on NBA.com (on the Atlanta Hawks official site), backup center Zaza Pachulia has added to his offseason regimen, and the results might be more than just better conditioning, footwork, and overall stamina. It might just result in a tougher approach to the game. All I can say is watch out Kevin Garnett! I still love that moment in Hawks history…

 

The “other” Star Guard

According to ESPN.com, Hawks super sub Jamal Crawford would like to discuss money matters. He wants to remain a Hawk, and I’m sure any Hawks spokesperson would likely state that they would like to keep him around. And while Jamal has been around the league for a decade (and been with several teams), he may as well get comfortable wherever he is sitting. After all, things don’t tend to happen around the front office at lightning speed. Especially if they don’t really have to. The question is, do the Hawks want him to finish out his career in Atlanta? Might they see him as a two way asset, or has he proven himself to be indispensable? Jamal seemed to fit in pretty darn well, and that is not likely to change under new head coach Larry Drew. But, if the Hawks are very slow or otherwise noncommittal to signing him to an extension, what might it be an indication of? Of course, a number of theories could abound. Understandably, they may be more focused on preparing an extension offer to Al Horford. Or, they may have other moves up their sleeve. You just never know. But, for the sake of the sanity of blogger Steve Brown, I won’t mention one of the most obvious and talked about (by others, not just me) possibilities.

In the meantime, I wish I could be an invisible fly on the wall in training camp. If for no other reason than to watch Jamal Crawford playing against Jordan Crawford. That would have to be a fun matchup, no?

560 comments Add your comment

Melvin

August 1st, 2010
2:58 pm

“We are a lot longer that we’ve ever been,” Gavin Maloof said. “We have five players over 6-11. We’re a very tall team right now and that’s very important to compete in this league.”

I think the Hawks maybe the only team in the league that doesnt have a 7 footer on their roster (if the Collins signing is not official).

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2010
3:15 pm

ASTRO JOE-The offensive and defensive short-comings of the previous HC were the reason teams so successfully did what they did to the Hawks.

1-Who’s idea was it to utilize the switching DEF and refuse to change, modify or adjust its use no matter what?

2-Wasn’t it the switching DEF that made it easy for opposing teams to use pick and rolls to create extremely favorable match ups that heavily favored them? Come on, our C’s & PF’s trying to defend their SG’s and PG’s, and our PG’s & SG’s under the basket trying to defend their C’s & PF’s.

3-Who’s idea do you think it was to close out every gm, especially close gms, by having everyone but the player with the ball clear out and go ISO? No other options, no one setting picks or rolling to the basket.

MWoodson made this team into a playoff caliber team, but it took him several yrs, drafts, trades and FA signings to do so. Some of you now expect LDrew to work miracles in his first yr at the helm. HELL ASTRO, DO YOU THINK WE WOULD BE A SURE-FIRE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM THIS YR IF WOODSON WAS STILL THE HC?

There’s certainly one thing I do know. With LDrew and LConnor, we’ll have a far better chance of becoming a SURE-FIRE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM in the future.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2010
4:06 pm

MELVIN-The Magic, Celtics, Jazz and Spurs are all successful teams that didn’t and don’t have a 7′ player on their roster, and the Suns have/had only one. Didn’t Dallas have two 7′ starters, Dirk and Dampier, with 7′ BHeywood coming off the bench last yr? And how much did those three 7′ players help them toward winning the title, or even getting to the dance? Didn’t they have their most successful season when they made it to the NBA finals with only two 7′ players, Dirk and Dampier?

WE NEED TO STOP MAKING REDICULOUS EXCUSES FOR THE HAWKS UNDERACHIEVEMENT. If we get more efficient OFF and DEF production from our starters and bench, and more strategic support from our coaching staff, we’ll have the ability to be as good as any other NBA team.

About 2 decades ago UCLA and Mich State met in the NCAA finals. Mich State was huge, with 6′6″ SG Cassie Russell being as tall a UCLA’s starting center, KErickson. During a pregame interview, former Laker PG Gail Goodrich, who was on that UCLA team, was asked what were they going to do about Mich State’s huge height and weight discrepancy. He calmly stated that they were the one’s with the problem, because they’ll have to carry all of that size and weight around trying to catch them.

Bottom line, UCLA whipped Mich State because the Bruins, unlike some Hawk fans, didn’t waste time worrying about what they didn’t have. They concentrated on what they did have, and utilized that to full advantage. THAT’S WHAT I’M EXPECTING FROM THE HAWKS UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF LDREW AND LCONNOR.

SteveW

August 1st, 2010
4:12 pm

Quote from Dwight,

“Howard also speaks of the potential folly of the Hawks building a team specifically to counter him:

“That’s only four games out of the season. You have to look long term and what’s best for your team. Cleveland got Shaq to match up with the Magic. They also got Antawn Jamison to match up with the Magic. But they didn’t even play the Magic. They played Boston [and lost]. You match up for the league, not just one team.”

Northcyde – I tend to agree with what you said. I think this is a false flag operation by Dwight. Translation of above Dwigth quote, “We smashed ATL in NBA record fashion, historic fashion if you will. Why do I want them to improve?”

I would not at all be surprised if Shaq went to Europe, especially for 10m a year, or even less really. Also, imagine his brand going more global than it already is. Smart business move by Shaq, if that’s what he really wants to do – there is probably some club willing to pay it too boost their bottom line as well.

And I would not be opposed to signing Juan Dixon, if we are going to carry 14guys. I think he could be a good 3rd PG, and maybe insurance if we traded Jamal at the trade deadline (wHich I really hope we don’t, but business is business I guess).

If we can’t afford to re-sign Jamal, might as well get something for him…..

Would still like 1 more big body – Shaq or Kwame – both stink in their own way -but both could help us in their own way also. I just hate to see such enormous talent go to waste with Kwame. Seems like such a good young man when he is interviewed.

Kwame plays basketball like the playground however. I got my man etc. Maybe Horford could “coach” him up, give him some pointers or something. He does fit our scheme of athletic guys.

niremetal

August 1st, 2010
6:18 pm

The content of what Dwight said was right, regardless of whether he was using misdirection or not. It’s amazing how often GMs panic and lose sight of the basic math that the odds that you’ll face one specific team in the playoffs is slim. Steve Kerr and Danny Ferry both fell into the trap of trading for Shaq because they thought it would help them beat one particular team (the Spurs for Phoenix and the Magic for Cleveland). Teams kept trading for Dikembe for the same reason 7-9 years ago (thinking that he’d stop Shaq). It never worked.

If you let one team dictate the way you construct your roster, you’ve already conceded defeat IMHO. The strategy should be to build the best team overall and try to force other teams to adjust to you, not adjust yourself to other teams. If we try to beat Dwight at his own game, we’ll lose.

In any case, our biggest problem against Orlando was not Dwight. It was their shooters. The Bobcats limited Dwight to 10 and 7 and still got swept. Dwight got 22 and 11 against Boston, but Boston beat the Magic beat them quite easily. I don’t think a team has ever beaten Orlando by trying to beat Dwight at his own game. But teams have beaten Orlando by letting Dwight get his.

Dwight is not going to score 60 points in a game. On defense, the reason the Hawks lost is that Woody became obsessed with stopping Dwight, leaving Charlotte’s shooters wide open. On offense, the ISO offense was useless because it allowed Dwight to just hang out around the rim, which cut off JJ and Jamal’s floaters and running jumpers (not to mention Josh and Al’s ability to score in the low post). Shaq would not help with either of those things. Having a coach who doesn’t get scared shitless at the prospect of Dwight would.

niremetal

August 1st, 2010
6:18 pm

The content of what Dwight said was right, regardless of whether he was using misdirection or not. It’s amazing how often GMs panic and lose sight of the basic math that the odds that you’ll face one specific team in the playoffs is slim. Steve Kerr and Danny Ferry both fell into the trap of trading for Shaq because they thought it would help them beat one particular team (the Spurs for Phoenix and the Magic for Cleveland). Teams kept trading for Dikembe for the same reason 7-9 years ago (thinking that he’d stop Shaq). It never worked.

If you let one team dictate the way you construct your roster, you’ve already conceded defeat IMHO. The strategy should be to build the best team overall and try to force other teams to adjust to you, not adjust yourself to other teams. If we try to beat Dwight at his own game, we’ll lose.

In any case, our biggest problem against Orlando was not Dwight. It was their shooters. The Bobcats limited Dwight to 10 and 7 and still got swept. Dwight got 22 and 11 against Boston, but Boston beat the Magic beat them quite easily. I don’t think a team has ever beaten Orlando by trying to beat Dwight at his own game. But teams have beaten Orlando by letting Dwight get his.

Dwight is not going to score 60 points in a game. On defense, the reason the Hawks lost is that Woody became obsessed with stopping Dwight, leaving Charlotte’s shooters wide open. On offense, the ISO offense was useless because it allowed Dwight to just hang out around the rim, which cut off JJ and Jamal’s floaters and running jumpers (not to mention Josh and Al’s ability to score in the low post). Shaq would not help with either of those things. Having a coach who doesn’t get scared sh!tless at the prospect of Dwight would.

niremetal

August 1st, 2010
6:19 pm

*leaving Orlando’s shooters wide open
and
*but Boston beat the Magic – and beat them quite easily

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2010
6:43 pm

MELVIN-The Spurs, Magic, Celtics and Jazz are 4 teams without a 7′ player on their roster, and the Suns had only one. Their success is living proof you don’t need a 7′ player to be successful. Last yr the Mavericks had three 7′ players on their roster, 2 starting. How much of a difference did it make as far as them winning an NBA title, or even getting to the dance? This yr, they will have 4, but when they had their most successful season, they made it to the finals with only 2.

About 2 decades ago, I remember a classic NCAA match up between UCLA and Mich State. Mich State was huge, especially compared to UCLA. Mich State’s 6′6″ SG Cassie Russell was taller than UCLA’s 6′5″ center Keith Erickson. Former Laker great Gail Goodrich was asked what he thought about the tremendous size and height advantage Mich State had over the Bruins. He calmly said they were the ones who had to carry around all of that size and weight while trying to deal with their speed and quickness.

UCLA whipped Mich State’s butt in that gm, and they didn’t do it by making an issue and whining about what they didn’t have, like a lot of Hawk fans are prone to do. They did it by focusing all of their energy and effort on taking advantage of what they did have.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2010
6:45 pm

NIREMETAL-I’ll gladly say it for you, I REST MY(OUR)CASE!!

SteveW

August 1st, 2010
6:50 pm

Nire, I know in sports in general what you are saying is true – and that is my preferred modus operandi. I have thought we should just get Anthony Tolliver – good fit in Drew’s offense – and be done with it. I do like the idea of making teams adjust to us.

And I have thought we are very similar to Phoenix – and Shaq really messed them up.

Orlando took advantage of JJ’s play. Looked like he had contractitis to me unless he was hurt and didn’t let the public know.

And Jameer did punk Bibby

And Jamal doesn’t have good perimeter defense

I agree it wasn’t all Dwight’s doing

But on the other hand… Shaq may be a good fit – we’ll let Sund and ASG make that call.

SteveW

August 1st, 2010
6:54 pm

BTW it was Horford calling for an impact player, a difference maker at the Center position, besides ZaZa, for us to be any type of contender in the East. And I would trust Horford since he’s the guy sluggin’ it out on a nightly basis down low to provide a correct assessment of what he, Josh and the guys need.

SteveW

August 1st, 2010
6:58 pm

Here is Horford’s quote:

“That’s good news to Al, who thinks the Hawks definitely need to acquire a bona fide center.”

“We need to get another big guy, another center, that’s able to help myself and Josh out,” he said. “We need to have someone to come in and have an impact. I think that is the position we need if we want to be any type of contender in the East.”

SteveW

August 1st, 2010
7:00 pm

And unless there’s somebody I’m missing – Shaq is the only impact Center left in Free Agency that would fit Horford’s criteria. A trade lurking somewhere….

niremetal

August 1st, 2010
7:02 pm

Horford is a player. Players make terrible GMs. End of story.

SteveW

August 1st, 2010
7:06 pm

On another controversial note – barring injury – I happen to think Joe Johnson will age well. His skill set of large, athletic frame, good passer and good jump shooter bode well for that.

Josh Smith’s skill set doesn’t bode well for playing far into his 30’s – but let’s win a championship this year – and worry about the future later!

P.S. But I do think that Horford’s game, frame and work ethic will let him age well – I could easily see him at 31 averaging 16 and 10….

SteveW

August 1st, 2010
7:09 pm

And if I were the Heat – players with Wade’s skill set don’t tend to age well – speed + driving against much larger players, + battling inside for boards at his size, and not a particularly good jump shooter tend to not age well. He’s an injury waiting to happen to me….

SteveW

August 1st, 2010
7:10 pm

But of Wade – What a player to watch! – Kinda like the Micheal Vick of the NBA (Vick before dog fighting that is).

niremetal

August 1st, 2010
7:11 pm

Bingo at 7:06, SteveW

O'Brien

August 1st, 2010
7:29 pm

nire,

Another HUGE problem we had with Orlando was on offense. We sucked. JJ and Jamal had horrible shooting percentages against them.

And we know Al and Josh are not going to score a bunch of points against Dwight, so we need our guards to shoot much better than they did.

ScottHastings#1

August 1st, 2010
8:42 pm

I really enjoyed the blog Big Ray. I completely agree with you on the toughness part. That is the hawks main problem is toughness- both mental and physical. That is why I hated seeing Childress go, because he had that in the playoffs. I haven’t seen it too much since including the 2 series that we won. To be great you have to be able to handle the pressure. I can see all these guys at times at home having moments of toughness. Maybe having Woodie gone will change that. I have my doubts though.

Fundamentals

August 1st, 2010
8:42 pm

Amen Ken to Collins needing minutes ahead of time. Hopefully we can find some value in him and he is in shape as some speculate

DrMaryB – I realize Shaq is a free agent. I know he has no obligation to acknowledge us, but I do remember him speaking to LAL MIA PHO and CLE before his arrival. I just want to know what he really intends to do if he intends to come here. I still contend I don’t like the idea. I’d rather have younger talent, even at the veterans min or MLE. He’s just not worth the risk to me. I have more faith in Drew and our team and will live with whatever happens.

Playing your best and getting beaten by a better team is nothing to hang your head for. Last year we didn’t live up to our potential. We honestly embarrassed ourselves in the post season. I’m hoping one day soon we’ll grow up and treat ORL like we did the Celtics. It’s a mental game, not a sign Shaq to save our team game. We have the pieces. LD’s just gotta use them to the best of their ability.

niremetal

August 1st, 2010
8:44 pm

O’Brien,

Re-read my post. I kinda talked about that, dude.

drmaryb (*_*)

August 1st, 2010
9:00 pm

Ken Strickland

How are you feeling these days? Are you receiving treatments and getting proper:

Nutrition
Rest
Exercise
Spirituality
Chiropractic

I hope so, because your health depends on it. So, does mine and all of us.
Make sure to say your prayers every night, because God loves you and is able.

Here is a dinner menu for you to try:

5 to 6 – Roma tomatoes (peeled and cut in half)
1 tbsp – chopped or minced garlic
1 – Vidalia Onion (sliced in 4 wedges)
1 lb – Jumbo Shrimp (de veined)
1 bag – Fresh Spinach
1 tblspn – Lemon Juice
1/2 cup – Chicken Broth

In a sauce pan coated with olive oil, sautee shrimp until pink (2 – 3 mins) add garlic, onions and sautee for another 2 mins. Add one tablespoon of lemon juice, a dash of black pepper and add tomatoes
(simmer for 2 – 3 mins). Now add 1/2 cup of chicken broth and 3 cups of spinach (simmer for 3 mins)

Enjoy your dish over linguine and a side of warm italian bread.

Enjoy a glass or two of Cabernet Sauvingon (anti-oxidant) upon retiring (heart smart)

Most of all, Get Well Soon! (I wish I could cook for you!)

O'Brien

August 1st, 2010
9:00 pm

nire,

Yes you did. So we are on the same page lol…

drmaryb (*_*)

August 1st, 2010
9:16 pm

Sssssh!

Fundamentals

My point re: Shaq is that – unless there are serious negotiations between he and the Hawksn nearing a deal being done? It would be inappropriate to make a public statement to the Fans. If the deal falls and negotiations break down, he would look like a dud! Not kewl to put the cart before the horse, keep all
team options open.

I’m just sayin’

N.D.T.K.A.

August 1st, 2010
9:38 pm

I really like Ken S. point of Sund waiting to the trade deadline with a wait-and-see approach to bringing in more players.

Maybe Sund can put together another trade like J. Crawford. Why pay full price for a center you can pay half price for at the trade deadline. Save the ASG a buck or two. This also gives L.Drew and staff time to identify needs of team under his leadership.

Everyone keeps dissin’ Marvin, well guess what folks, surprise, “the duck” is still on the Hawks roster and starting at SF, so I would suggest you armchair gm’s sit back and watch him play like the rest of us.

As for J. Chillz, he felt dissed by management, didn’t want to play for the Hawks no more, so he can roast that fro’ in Phoenix for all I care.

Ken Strickland

August 1st, 2010
11:48 pm

DRMARYB-Thanks for asking, you really are a special woman. I haven’t received any treatment since receiving that Hormone shot, and I won’t find out anything until Sep 1. I’m seriously considering doing something I really don’t want to do, but I might have to, and that’s move to Alabama.

Whether I decide to have the surgery or radiation treatment, I’ll probably need help taking care of the 4 legged love of my life. I’m eating a lot better, and have lost 23LBS since finding out about my condition. After I beat this, I’ve been seriously thinking about selling everything, buying a tent, a generator, and traveling around the country. I’d prefer not to do it alone, but if I can’t find someone to go with me, I still might give it a try.

On a basketball note, I don’t think the Hawks are ready to become a championship caliber team this yr. There are simply too many questions that need answering. We have to commit time, mins and effort towards developing PG JTeague and SG JoCrawford. With JaCrawford becoming an UFA after this season, we must find out what we have in JoCrawford so we can decide what should be done about Jamal.

We must also re-establish SF MWilliams and PG MBibby, incorporate LDrew’s offensive and LConnor’s defensive systems, and integrate JPowell into the system. We also have to find out what we can get out of a slimmed down, better conditioned JCollins. Just too many questions.

However, I do think we can and will have a better season than last yr. The only Eastern teams I can see finishing ahead of us would be Orlando and maybe Miami, but only if they come together very quickly. By the trade deadline, we should know what we need and/or need to do, and by playoff time, we should be ready to kick butt and take names. I see us being a very formidable 2nd rd opponent, whether we win or lose.

Big Ray

August 2nd, 2010
12:13 am

Everyone keeps dissin’ Marvin, well guess what folks, surprise, “the duck” is still on the Hawks roster and starting at SF, so I would suggest you armchair gm’s sit back and watch him play like the rest of us.

We did, last year. 10 and 5 was the result. Armchair or not, what GM is happy with that? Hoping for better times…

Big Ray

August 2nd, 2010
12:14 am

ScottHastings#1 ,

Thank you, sir! Feel free to hang around and add you insight. And yes, kicking Woody to the curb is in no way a guarantee of the team becoming tougher.

drmaryb (*_*)

August 2nd, 2010
12:23 am

Optimistic NOT Pessimistic!

Ken Strickland

I LOVE that optimism! I would live in that tent with you & cook for you!

drmaryb (*_*)

August 2nd, 2010
12:40 am

Ken Strickland

Fantastic job on dropping 23 lbs! That is – Rich! Keep it up!
Mmmmh … Alabama? Well, you won’t need to pack a tooth brush.

Hehehe …. ROF

SteveW

August 2nd, 2010
12:43 am

Ken Strickland – God bless you! Hope you get to better soon.

On a basketball note – man, you sound like the last interview I read with Sund – we hope to somehow remain a top 4 seed in the East – he certainly didn’t sound hopeful of us being a championship caliber team either!

We may be a piece or 2 away – but you never know – What if Wade get’s hurt or they squabble in Miami and somebody demands a trade? What if Dwight pulled a quadricep (or somethng) in the playoffs? What if Bynum can’t come back strong – or can’t go in the playoffs – I think we have a shot, and far stranger things have happened.

That’s why I complain so much about the 3m – if Sund said it – he should do it. And if we’re this close – maximize the team – teams only get close so often, ask the Mavs and a host of other folks (Suns, Nuggets etc.).

Agree with so many of your points however – esp., we gotta see what we have in JoCrawford – and Sund does have us set up with the trade deadline – 3.66m Trade exception, Jamal and Mo expiring contracts – Bibby’s the next year – could be an interesting year. It’s not what happens in Nov – Jan nearly as much as what happens when the playoffs roll around.

SteveW

August 2nd, 2010
12:47 am

I had forgotten until the other day that we were ranked the #1 team in the NBA in the ESPN power rankings for a couple of weeks in Dec. last year. We should have chemistry – we’ve been together for 2 1/2 years now with Bibby – longer than that with the rest of our core except Jamal.

Maybe we can roll into the playoffs with some momentum – you just never know….

SteveW

August 2nd, 2010
12:49 am

Sign Kwame – but make $200,000.00 of his salary that he has to walk around with a basketball guy at least 4-6 hours a day, coaching him…..Maybe.

vava74

August 2nd, 2010
7:01 am

niremetal

August 1st, 2010
6:18 pm

One word: “PERFECT”

Just stop with this freaking obsession about Howard !!!!!!!!

drmaryb (*_*)

August 2nd, 2010
7:52 am

Wright & Wrong!

Looks like the Memphis Police is following my advice to look at the Ex-Wife.
Lorenzen’s ex-wife Sherra was taken to the police dept. For questioning yesterday, in regarrds to
Lorenzen’s untimely and unfortunate death.

Yesterday they searched her home. The neighbors reported a large fire burning in her backyard after his death, in a fire pit. What was so unusual was that it was such a HOT day to be setting fires.
Immediately after the death, she put up sheeþs to all the windows? (Strange).
Then on July 27th, she reported two strange men with guns on their waist underneath their jackets knocked oin her door looking for Lorenzen, 6 weeks before his death? Why didn’t she get their tag number and call the police then?

Even more strange is that she was killed after leaving her home at 2am that morning.
Like I said, Sherra Wright is the key to solving this senseless murder. They were divorced in
January this year. Get that TRICK and let her FRY!!!!!!!!!!

And about the Hawks? We are gonna’ have to just sit tight – watch & see!
We definitely need to do something more than we have to show the desire to win NOW!

Like SteveW said, injuries can happen to any team and there is no guarantee IF we will get this close again.
So, Carpe’ Diem! (Sieze the Day!)

drmaryb (*_*)

August 2nd, 2010
8:10 am

Blu-Ray
(Picture Perfect)

Hello there Buddy – the blog is absolutely 1st Class! (unlike the other one over there), nothing personal MC.
We-ve been averaging about 100 posts per day, so that is really good for the Fans!
What I love? It’s the “Grown & Sexy” comments from the intellectuals:

Ken Strickland
Doc
Niremental
Astro Joe
Steve1
Dap01
O’Brien
The Truth
Grand-Daddy
Melvin
VaVa74
BigDave
NorthCyde
Najeh DavenPoop
Fundamentals
Kwooden1
Macaroni Tony (he’s the cheesiest!)
ScottHastings#1
N.D.T.K.A.

And others, (sorry if omitted) from the Roll Call: Thank You everyone for all the Fantastic posts to keep the fire stoked about our Hawks. We have analyzed this roster like a Rubic’s Cube, and every
sound and silly trade has been made or NOT?

Bottom line is we love our Hawks! And we NEED a Winner!

PS: Alicia Keys got married this weekend (to a rapper?) and is 5 Months pregnant!
Congratulations Alicia!

Astro Joe

August 2nd, 2010
9:39 am

The Lorenzen Wright story will likely unfold in a manner that supports the age old adgae, “fact is stranger than fiction”.

So who made the bet that Jason Collins would have a contract before Shaq this summer?

Only question left is will Sund wait until camp and give someone a shot at #13 or will he grab one of the “August FAs” standing on the corner looking for a pick-up truck to carry them to an arena? If not Chris Hunter or Travis Diener, I wouldn’t mind bringing in some oft-injured guys like Etan Thomas or Kenny Thomas and see if they have anything left. Maybe allow them to compete with some of the NBDL’s finest for that last spot.

O'Brien

August 2nd, 2010
9:54 am

Steve W,

What if Wade get’s hurt or they squabble in Miami and somebody demands a trade? What if Dwight pulled a quadricep (or somethng) in the playoffs? What if Bynum can’t come back strong – or can’t go in the playoffs .

The “what ifs” go both ways. What if Al gets hurt? What if Josh gets hurt? Hawks were the healthiest team in the NBA last year. Who knows how this year will go.

Agree with so many of your points however – esp., we gotta see what we have in JoCrawford .

Unless one of our guards gets injured, where is JoCraw going to get PT? We are stacked at SG with JJ and Jamal (and even Mo), and we have Bibby and Teague at PG.

By drafting a SG, and resigning JJ, I think we should trade Jamal for better (quality) bench depth.

Astro Joe

August 2nd, 2010
10:21 am

A 50-win team doesn’t need to give a 3rd string SG any consistent time. And if I were Drew, JC2 would be my 4th string SG, as I would play Mo Evans at that spot before sending the rookie in the game. I’m of the belief that an NBA practice is the ideal place for a rookie to learn the pro game. If he moves up the depth chart, so be it… but no need to distribute minutes like we’re playing youth basketball at the YMCA.

Big Ray

August 2nd, 2010
10:59 am

Drmaryb ,

Thanks! All of you who come here are the ones who make this blog what it is.

O’brien and Astro Joe ,

Agreed. Hard to see where JC2 gets significant playing time.

Astro Joe

August 2nd, 2010
11:14 am

Fundamentals

August 2nd, 2010
11:35 am

Astro – I agree that Mo should be used at the SG spot. He’s just too small for SF. That begs the question? Can Jamal & Mo handle all the SG minutes with JC2 spotting in?

Is Joe a bad option at SF? It could give more minutes to Jamal, push Marvin into a bigger role on the 2nd unit where he is a primary scorer.

Teague/Bibby
Jamal/Mo/JC2
Joe/Marvin
Smoove/Powell/ZaZa
Horford/Collins/C?

Astro Joe

August 2nd, 2010
11:52 am

Fundamentals, I think that is a dangerously small starting line-up. I suspect that Drew will keep the same top 9-10 players (with Powell replacing Joe Smith). Some may get more/less playing time but I don’t envision changes to the starters (I think Bibby will start to begin the season at PG). And for all of the Powell love, dude will very likely play less than 10 minutes/game, so I wouldn’t count on him being some kind of amazing addition to the team.

Fundamentals

August 2nd, 2010
11:57 am

I can see that, depends on matchups. Hopefully LD’s plans will shore up our perimeter defense and slow down the switching so much so that Horford and Smith can guard the paint. I just don’t see Mo getting minutes on this team much less JC2 with Jamal and Joe at SG? Marvin obviouly needs to step it up or we need help at SF as well as C? That’s where Joe comes in cause he’s guarding them anyway at times.

Bibby needs to show some energy and desire for me to see him start. If he can’t go, we’re stuck with Teague, Jamal or Joe running the point.

Fundamentals

August 2nd, 2010
12:08 pm

Joe – we know what we’ll get – he needs support on O & D

Horford – wants help on the boards – hopefully through #13

Smoove – made strides last season, but checked out in the playoffs. Dude needs a solid year this time. Hopefully marriage will be a blessing and not a distraction.

I still say Mo needs a home at SG somewhere so he can flourish. We’re not giving him that here? Trade chip?

Bibby came in awesome…and then lost the desire under Woodson? I think he can go, but does he want to buy in? If not, who wants him?

Teague is basically a rookie this year, basically getting his first shot. What can we honestly expect? What can he do? Time will tell, but a real offensive system should help direct him to how to push the rock. Woodson relegated his duties to meaningless minutes.

Jamal has to play D for him to be worth keeping? Is his trade value worth dealing him for a C or SF option which could make Marvin expendable?

Marvin has all the gifts, but we all know the story. I’m praying LD’s system will be the difference.

Will ZaZa and Collins come in ready to play their role hard? They’re criticial to our success.

Macaroni Tony

August 2nd, 2010
12:27 pm

DrmaryB

Thank you for the shout out!

I just wonder which player will complete our roster this year. And I hope that LD is not like Woody and you play rookies, because I think JoCrawford could help us this year.

SteveW

August 2nd, 2010
12:53 pm

O’Brien – no doubt that the injury thing can go both ways – just saying – stranger things have happened.

They will be able to look at JoCrawford during practice, and spot duty during some games.

I also think they will be checking to see if he can play any PG – he did at IU (he was a PG at IU, not just occasionally) – and had some decent court vision in the summer league also. They will be able to evaluate him.

O'Brien

August 2nd, 2010
12:53 pm

Fundamentals,

I think Mo is a solid backup SG who can handle 18 mpg backing up JJ. And JC2 might actually earn some PT if Jamal was traded.

But if we are keeping Jamal, I think we should trade Mo for a legit backup SF.

Macaroni Tony,

There are 48 minutes at each position, so I don’t see where JC2 is going to get PT. I know it’s early, and matchups, hot hand, and injuries will determine PT. But this is my breakdown.

PG – Bibby (24), Teague (20), Jamal (4)

SG – JJ (32) Jamal (16)

SF – Marvin (30), Mo (14), JJ (4).

I dont see much room for JC2 this year. Once Jamal and Mo expires next offseason, then JC2 might be ready to take over Jamal’s role.

SteveW

August 2nd, 2010
1:00 pm

Ways we may improve this year:

1) Whoever we get at #13 will be better than RandMo I would guess. Rand looked horrid in summer league – wow!

2) Teague has a year, a summer league, and another pre-season practice under his belt. He will be better.

3) Marvin may be better

4) Horford will probably be a little better

5) Collins may be slightly better

6) Larry Drew is respected by basketball guys. With Drew as a former PG, Teague couldn’t ask for a better situation. Conner and Gattison may help as well.

7) Team will have had a year to jell together – Horford, Marvin, Josh, ZaZa, and Joe seem like they’ve been playing together for ages! Bibby, Mo’, Jamal and Teague as well, to varying degrees. We do have alot of continuity – may be valuable.