Draft night: Sund’s sleight of hand

When was the last time there were this many moves during the NBA draft?

The fact that the Atlanta Hawks got involved in trading draft picks should attest to the magnitude of the situation. If nothing else, Hawks fans can take some small solace in the fact that several other teams threw their fans curveballs during the draft, what with the trading, selling, and trading again of one pick after another. It started for the Hawks when they decided to trade their first round pick (#24) for New Jersey’s 27th and 31st picks. Texas forward Damion James was selected, and his rights traded to New Jersey, who in turn selected Xavier guard Jordan Crawford. James might have been a good fit in Atlanta, bringing defense, toughness, energy, and athleticism to the swing forward position, but the Nets will benefit from that. So long Damion, we hardly knew you…

Meanwhile, the Hawks will get to see what Jordan Crawford is made of. The Xavier guard is tabbed by Draftexpress.com as a very good catch and shoot type, who can hit whether he’s open or being defended. The Hawks can certainly use that, but it will help greatly if he can improve his ability to draw fouls and finish at the basket. In addition, he will need to learn to defend at this level or he won’t be able to help the Hawks as much as they would like. Does Crawford have what it takes to contribute off of the Atlanta bench right away? If not, how long before he can contribute? NBAdraft. net probably has the most detailed analysis of his game, though Draftexpress sums him up somewhat similarly. Spoiler alert: one of the comments in the “weaknesses” column on NBAdraft. net will immediately make you think of dear ol’ Dominique Wilkins…

Before fans could get cozy with the acquisition of Crawford, the Hawks turned around and drafted German center Tibor Pleiss to start off the second round, then sold his rights to the Oklahoma City Thunder for cash considerations. This surely seemed like a strange move with a number of raw big men still on the board, including Hassan Whiteside, Solomon Alabi, Dexter Pittman, Jerome Jordan, and Jarvis Varnado. What will the Hawks do with the money they made off of this pick? Will it help them make a decent acquisition in free agency?  The fact is, if the Hawks don’t make a successful move in either free agency or trade for a serviceable big man to bring off the bench, this will come back into conversation when training camp comes around, and it won’t be in a positive light. Still, it is very hard to judge moves like that when they haven’t happened yet, although the 11th hour signing of Joe Smith last season won’t bring back any warm and fuzzy memories.

The Hawks late second round pick turned out to be French player Pape Sy, a guy who I am having trouble digging up information on. Will Sy be coming over this year? Will he play in the summer league along with Jeff Teague, Jordan Crawford (I would assume) and Sergei Gladyr? Do the Hawks know how to develop players like this? Is Sy a sleeper that only scouts would know something about? In the end, we probably did not really expect much from this draft, did we? Hopefully the Hawks found an effective scorer in Crawford, who will learn to defend. Maybe they found a rare hidden gem in Sy (not holding our collective breath). Sund’s sleight of hand in this draft comes with mixed emotions. Did he make a shrewd move by getting a player that they wanted, and adding cash to the pot, or was it just another “cheap move?”

The draft is over, but the Summer of Sund continues. And it’s about it get hot…

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Najeh Davenpoop

June 25th, 2010
12:16 am

Glad to have Jordan Crawford on the team. The funny thing is, reading everything about him and seeing some of his highlights on Youtube only makes me think of the Crawford the Hawks already have — both are slightly undersized 2-guards with good ball-handling skills who think score, score, score. I think Jordan Crawford will be an asset on the floor, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was drafted in part to give the Hawks the flexibility to trade Jamal Crawford and his expiring contract for big man help during the July free agency season.

doc

June 25th, 2010
12:18 am

if they got 3 mil then it was a good deal for the 31 choice especially with ur track record for second rounders.

EArl

June 25th, 2010
12:19 am

First!!! I hope this turns out better than it looks at the moment. Maybe if JJ resigns the pressure won’t be on Crawford to contribute immediately.

Jamaaliver

June 25th, 2010
12:25 am

The SA Spurs got the steal of the draft for the 2nd year in a row. Last year they lucked into Dejuan Blair in the 2nd, this year they get James Anderson out of Oklahoma State with the 20th pick. he might be the most NBA ready of the non-lottery picks.

Jordan Crawford seems like a solid pick, but we can’t really speculate how he might fit in without seeing some of Coach Drew’s offense in action.

Here’s hoping.

newkid

June 25th, 2010
12:26 am

Big Ray, in the years ahead when we look back on the gems from tonight’s round two, let’s remember that Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles (sorry, I meant Sund and Pendergraft) entrusted with the keys to the family sedan, elected (or were directed) to drive right by each of them and collect $3 million. And remember that the first story Shultz filed on this draft night had to do not with the fiasco at 31, but how wonderful it was that Wonder and Charles drove right by Crawford at 24 only to have him fall in their laps a few picks later (with $3 million in tow), and promptly decided to leave well enough alone instead of using 31 to continue to build a winner. How many GMs make that move without broke ownership orchestration?

Jamaaliver

June 25th, 2010
12:26 am

P.S. EArl is a tool…….

Remarkable

June 25th, 2010
12:28 am

Great move to get Crawford but why waste the pick at 31? How much money is involved in a second round pick? I agree that this move may come back to haunt the Hawks. I was hoping to get Hassan Whiteside or Solomon Alabi. Will they make Sund look bad in the future?

newkid

June 25th, 2010
12:28 am

Jamaaliver, SA’s selection of the UK kid Richards in round two just might turn out to be larger than the Anderson selection.

grip

June 25th, 2010
12:38 am

Every expert on TV talked about how affordable 2nd round picks are, and we trade the first pick in the 2nd round, when there are five bigs on the board, the ATLANTA SPIRIT GROUP has killed my team, there using the excuse that we want to fill the roster out with veterans, when there are young bigs available, why not do both, Let me answer that. We are broke!!!! I will be shocked if we sign any bigs of consequence. We could have drafted Daniel Orton but instead we get crawford and sale the pick, that does not add up. If you make the trade then you have to take a big with the pick!!!

Big Ray

June 25th, 2010
12:41 am

Newkid ,

That is a prevailing feeling. However, if the Hawks get some good pieces in the free agent/trade market, we’ll know where that $3 million went. If we end up with a bench featuring froncourt players like Joe Smith, Randolph Morris, and Jason Collins again, then the griping continues in earnest (and with good cause).

Sund has said that they prefer to fill the roster out with veteran free agents. Now they have to deliver. Only do it better this time. 11th hour signing of guys who weren’t getting offers elsewhere won’t cut it.

Najeh ,

Now there’s a thought. However, trading Jamal means we better get a good big man. We would be trading away a SMOY, and our best offensive option at the 2 guard position if Joe leaves (which is looking more and more likely every day now). Again, how ready is Jordan Crawford to contribute now ?

i_am_soulstar

June 25th, 2010
12:43 am

San Antonio kicks azz in the draft every year.

If the Hawks are staying with their stated objective of acquiring a big through free agency, or if they’re stacking paper to match the Josh Childress offer, then I’m wit it. But only time will tell. I think they’re more concerned about securing current assets.

I don’t mind that at all.

Big Ray

June 25th, 2010
12:44 am

Again, if good veteran pieces are found to fit in our frontcourt (and other places), then we won’t be screeching about the 31st and 53rd picks one bit. You just about automatically have to compare any of the guys who were available at #31 to any veteran bigs we sign. But let’s also think about this: would any of those prospects have been better than RandMo? Collins (if he lost 30 or more pounds)? What if we grab a guy like Amir Johnson? What if we use part of that money to latch onto a guy like Brendan Haywood. Or Tyson Chandler. Or some other big that we can use.

On the flip side……what if we don’t

Jamaaliver

June 25th, 2010
12:44 am

newkid…..I am incredibly envious at how efficient San Antoni’s front office is when it comes to drafting.

Tim Duncan and Manu G miht be on the last legs of their careers, but SA continues to reload on the sly. I’ll definitely be keeping an eye out to see what Richards is able to do this year.

Big Ray

June 25th, 2010
12:45 am

i_am_soulstar

Exactly. We don’t know. If this works out, then it’s a great move. If it doesn’t, then the ASG looks cheap and Sund looks silly. It’s a gamble…

UGA

June 25th, 2010
12:47 am

I really thought the James pick was a blessing. He could defend a LeBron, Granger or Rashad Lewis better than what we had. Plus, he can rebound. I did see Crawford play and he can score and we need a scorer in case of an injury. But for what we need now, James was the better pick I thought.

I also don’t understand why we could not get the Thunder’s 2nd round pick in the deal as well…

newkid

June 25th, 2010
12:51 am

C’mon Ray, if we’re down to the $3 million from the fiasco at 31 to sign vets, we’re toast. These cats are so far out of their league it’s becoming pathetic.

…and he ‘Stevie Wonder’ has – even before the night’s over – gotten in to full method acting mode with insults to the fan base with that crock about wanting to sign vets. Cats with IQs less than 50 couldn’t be sold that crap.

i_am_soulstar

June 25th, 2010
1:05 am

Ray,

Everyone’s angry about this #31 move already. Pessimism rules in blog land on draft night. I thought it was a helluva move. Rick basically flipped a late first round pick into another late first rounder and 3 million. He will draw the ire of many if he doesn’t do something spectacular with it, but you’re just not getting a quality big at #31 9 times out of 10. Folks at the draft party or on these blogs just can’t get that through their thick skulls. They just keep yelling for whoever the tallest player is available. Most unfortunate (and by unfortunate, I mean ignorant).

Rick brought us Jamal Crawford last year. I’m sitting back and giving him the benefit of a doubt until he’s proves that I shouldn’t.

cp

June 25th, 2010
1:44 am

Getting the money for the pick is cool if you actually use it but if you sign garbage players like Collins then it was a bad move. It would have been better drafting a cheaper young guy and develop him. If they do use the money to sign a big that can help then its a good move but lets be honest here, how many of us actually believe they will do so?.

I read that Pape Sy actually paid his own way here to workout for the Hawks. I’m rooting for the kid but damn the Hawks couldn’t go half on the ticket?

niremetal

June 25th, 2010
1:50 am

Lakers and Suns sold first round picks in years past. Guess they must be absurdly cheap.

Seriously, I’ve given up. Astro/Melvin, bitch all you want about ASG being cheap and pretend that the Hawks play with Monopoly. You don’t know $h!t about NBA finances and you never will. It’s just sad at this point.

niremetal

June 25th, 2010
1:50 am

*Monopoly money

niremetal

June 25th, 2010
2:05 am

Alright, I lied: I’ll say this and then go back to Wimbledon for another week. None of us know what the Hawks’ balance sheet looks like. That includes me. On one end of the spectrum (the Hawks expecting to turn a significant profit next year), the $3M might be the difference between the Hawks having a luxury tax payroll or not. On the other end of the spectrum (the Hawks expecting to lose a lot of money next year), that $3M might be what the team needs just to cover their current payroll/pay vendors/etc.

Depending on what the team’s projected revenues are for next year, that $3M might be the difference between signing a reliable vet free agent or staying pat. Or maybe the team’s projected revenues are so low that they won’t be able to afford such a free agent no matter what, and that money might be the difference between retaining JJ or having to let him walk. Or maybe the team’s projected revenues are even lower than that they can’t keep JJ or sign another free agent, it might be the difference between keeping Josh or trading him for future cap relief.

It’s not like the owners will ever see the money from the trade. It goes into the team revenue pile. So saying “that trade makes no sense/ASG is cheap unless the Hawks sign a significant free agent this summer” makes no sense. The only view that makes any sense is to start by looking at whatever the Hawks’ payroll for next year turns out to be, and subtract $3M. Because that’s the difference this trade made. Starting by saying what you think the payroll should be and then saying ASG is cheap unless they pay reflects either ignorance or stupidity, because it ignores the fact that the team can’t just create money out of thin air when it sets a payroll.

Ed

June 25th, 2010
2:08 am

Ray this whole senaro shows just how cheap the Hawks are. They first risk missing out on the player they wanted / targeted by trading back with New Jersey. Second, they turn around and sell the player they drafted for what appears to be the league maximum of 3 million dollars. It doesn’t matter how they spend the money as they never should have had it. Just as you said the kid from Marshall was there for the taking and that would have given us a shot at a legitimate center in the future.

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wordsmithtom

June 25th, 2010
5:29 am

Somebody would bitch if Shakira had been available at 24. Getting a guy who can score the ball is no bad thing for a 24. Getting him + 3Large is a coup. The Frenchman is a mystery, but LD liked him, and he obviously wants to come over or he wouldn’t have paid his own way to a tryout.

Thinking more and more about Siler. Playing a season with Yao Ming’s team and getting to work with the big guy must have helped him. He held his own in that league, which is probably as good as our D-leauge or better. Plus, when Ming is healthy, he’s as good a big as there is. Having a year’s experience playing with men should help Siler. Bring him in!

A SNT for a vet big for Chills or a trade of Crawford for same…..hmmm
JJ so much depends on what he does. A lot more to come in this “Summer of Sund”. Thanks Big Ray for that meme.

More of the same

June 25th, 2010
6:46 am

More dumb moves by the morons who run the hawks. Trading down to get a mediocre shooter, when they need a lot more than that? I give up. Look for a quick playoff exit next year, again.

O'Brien

June 25th, 2010
7:01 am

First of all, let me say that I like the Crawford pick. He’s a scorer, and he provides some options. I did not like the fact that we sold the #31 pick. And I dont know enough about Papa Sy to like or dislike the pick. Plus at #53, it’s really no big deal.

Although I dont like selling #31, I will reserve judgement on Sund for one reasons. His talks about adding veterans. From ajc.com;

“I think we need more veterans,” Sund said. “We are one of the youngest teams in the league still. I think we need to fill out the rest of the roster with veterans.”

The Hawks traded the rights to Pleiss to Oklahoma City for cash. Sund said the Hawks did so because they want to fill out the roster with veteran players.

As long as the Hawks fill out the roster with veterans, I’m okay with that. I just hope they are not talking about over the hill vets who sign for the minimun.

With the Bulls trading Hinrich to Washington, they now have space for almost 2 max free agents straight up. That means they can sign LeBron and JJ for $15.5 mil each, and not have to do any sign and trades. So I think JJ walks away from the Hawks, and we get nothing in return.

Najeh,

I’ve been on the trade Crawford bandwagon for a while, because him and Josh are our 2 best trade assets. Hopefully, we can resign JJ (I’ll take him for $16 mil), and trade Jamal for frontcourt help.

dap01

June 25th, 2010
7:13 am

The Hawks are cheap but idiots who will not admit that they are serious about winning, they are going to exist as cheaply as possible.

With the 3 million dollars, the Hawks will do nothing.

vava74

June 25th, 2010
7:21 am

nire,

It’s unbelievable that these guys – who will probably not even buy a lunch to a friend much less dump money into a loosing business to satisfy “clients” – have the nerve to say that simply because the ASG are reasonably well off guys (not tremendous millionaires like Cuban and Prokhorov) they have an obligation to continue to pour money into a business which is losing money right now.

We might be talking about in the worst case scenario – as you well say – 3 million which may be a real need for the fulfillment of commitments with suppliers, employees, etc.

We have no idea how the ASG’s account look like, how much income is coming in yearly and how much is going out.

3 million is a lot of cash. Heck, the 160K cap handle on the rookie contract difference saved with going down from 24 to 27 is a lot of money too.

By the way, can anyone spare me 160K?

doc

June 25th, 2010
8:23 am

nire, though i hear what you are saying in the past and see what you have written today, it is just your opinion sometimes stated as fact. it us a good opinion, clearly stated and i respect it but it is stated as you say above without any knowledge, prior precedent or rules for building a team or a franchise. i will also say the way they have approached it, by blowing up the team, building the low cost way through the draft is a novel one that hasnt been successful the few times it has been done. look to chicago for an example of this. they elected to do it through the draft. it was chosen by a very fat, arrogant gm by the name of kraus who thought he could do what jordan and phil did bring a championship to chicago. he eventually lost his job because he was unsuccessful in his attempt, though he had more resources and a single owner to work with not involved in a public ownership divorce.

about the mle we tend to forego as an example of the asg severe austerity program, where you say it is quite logical that they havent spent it, your logic i might add. i asked on the other blog to mc what he thought of the idea we had not used mle’s and he said he was bewildered, especially last year. my pont, to me it means the guys have an economic formula to get the most bang for the buck and are going to keep it, even if it means we dont have al the bullets the other guys get to make runs at championships. i am fine with it. i think it is silly to pretend otherwise. again very few teams have broken it down and ever made it to the top. in fact i cant ever think of one single franchise to do it successfully as measured by getting even to the championship round. certainly not with organic growth that takes 6 years to do it in before competing. okc has done it in three, portland in three as well both in tougher divisions than the east.

nire, if they dont sign someone with that money …. they lose credibility. yes, it is their money, only that is not good branding but a suggestion they dont have many beans to work with. yes, it might be about getting vets or it might be about solvency. since our cupboard is bare, i think it might be the latter until proven otherwise by their actions to spend the way they say they will. 3 mil is a lot of money even to a collective of mega millionaires and a good return for them, good job. it also suggests the okc franchise is getting very aggressive and wants to add more when we want less. hmmm. which fan base is going to get more excited? why do you deride those that see it this way. okc is another franchise trying to do what we have done. i acknowledge they got the lucky draw in the draft one year that we never seemed to get, though we really did. if we had deron or even cp3 we would say differently about our franchise about now. since we didnt select well it is all up to sund to pull the rabbit out again or the owners to spend a bit more to get some hosses. if they dont we remain middle of the road team at best working with the bottom third payroll. is it about the haves and the have nots? then i prefer to be a fan with owners that are among the haves.

why should we expect a better than bottom third team that may hover around the lottery vs. playoff contention line? it is a line which is not very far apart. when i look at the data, spending seems to make a difference in basketball. if you do it wisely and towards the top of the league you get a chance at the ring if you dont you end up in the quagmire at the bottom. shows up every year just as this year when the top two teams in salary are playing for the championship. that is a formula you can take to the bank in the nba, spend a lot wisely and you win. even more true if you dont spend you dont get out of the first round. as a fan who wants to see the team compete and i see the owners cant or wont spend then i begin to think it is fool’s gold to pretend we are contenders only pretender’s. that is why the fan base might be so appalled the team didnt grab up another player nire. of course, if they fill out the roster with quality guys then so be it. if it is more of the retreads beyond the 7th player then all bets are off and i put my discretionary dollars in my pocket like my owners did theirs. there is no farm system so they have to pony up something and are unable to do it on the cheap. in the process it is there for all to see. i contend because they didnt want to spend an extra ten mil the last two seasons they may have missed an excellent opportunity. i am sad about that. they were maybe that close this year. another year lost, in my 53 years a fan of this team.

WWSD

i_am_soulstar

June 25th, 2010
8:24 am

Judgment reserved. No use jumping to conclusions about something that hasn’t entirely played out yet.

Steve

June 25th, 2010
9:02 am

Yahoo reported a few weeks ago the Hawks were shopping their 1st pick for cash. Once word got out, Sund had to go the back door route to get that to happen – a little over 3 mill. total and a 1st round pick.

One good thing however, Chad Ford on ESPN had Crawford as his 1 player drafted in the 20’s who may be a Rondo. I agree, if he comes in and works hard and develops his game like Rajon has.

P.S. I totally disagree with the veteran thing for the Hawks, unless it’s a young veteran. I like the idea of a young, fresh, athletic team. Joe Smith and Collier may have helped Josh and Co. a little this year with professionalism, but let’s get a 25-26 year old big (or Heyward, which I doubt), a Nate Robinson who’s 25 and run with it. We’ll mature over time.

Steve

June 25th, 2010
9:03 am

Or a Channing Frye…..

chuckw/deadjournalist

June 25th, 2010
9:15 am

While getting cash for a pick isn’t sexy, let’s be honest about the pick for a second.

In the last ten drafts, going back to 2000, the only player taken at 31 that has been anything more than an end-of-bench guy/out-of-the-league-in-less-than-three-years was Carl Landry (and maybe, maybe Jason Kapono qualifies as a “role” player).

I remember how excited I was when the Hawks drafted Priest Lauderdale in 1996 because he was a huge, big-man project. The idea of a big-man project is great, but those bigs almost never pan out. And if anyone knows about failed big-man projects, it’s Sund.

Here’s the reality of what the Hawks did:

They sold a second round pick – with a 90% chance of being nothing more than a league minimum player or wash-out – for $3M, $160k in salary saving by moving down three spots in the first round and still got the guy they wanted.

Like I said, it isn’t sexy, but it’s a good percentage play that gains cash … which is just as good as money.

wordsmithtom

June 25th, 2010
9:26 am

Today’s GDP for Q2 showed growth at 2.7%, down from estimates of 3%. The stock market’s fearing a “double dip”. Gulf oil spill and declining retail activity. If it ain’t another recession, it will surely feel like one. Austerity. Why all the whining? Sund got a great deal. Money for nothing and a pick for free…Now, more work to be done once JJ makes up his mind. A lot of options now with Crawford, Chill’s slot, and money for a vet big. A long hot summer ensues.

Gambling on “projects” is hardly what a playoff team does…it, like the Lakers, sells borderline picks and picks up developed assets. Hawks are still among youngest teams in league. Looks like change is underway.

EyeSeeStyle

June 25th, 2010
9:31 am

At least these new Hawks will have a friendly place to go to drown their sorrows in the post-Joe Johnson era now that Zaza’s opened a new bar in Buckhead!
http://eyeseestyle.blogspot.com/

Astro Joe

June 25th, 2010
9:57 am

nire, when the Hawks traded Andersen for $2M last year, we did NOT use that money for an on-court asset. Follow my logic. At that time, we had 11 players on contracts. The NBA minimum is 13, so there was no choice, they HAD to find 2 more players. So what did they do? They chose 2 players whose pay was picked up by the NBA, Collins and Joe Smith. Did they use the $2M to field a summer league team? No. Did they use it to send their one young guy to another team’s summer league sqaud? No. Did they use it to meet payroll for their sales force? Possibly.

So now we’re supposed to get excited that when they had a choice of ANY player not drafted in the 1st round, they chose a $3M cash payment? Sorry, I am expecting to see a repeat from last season… someone like a 1-year-too-late Kurt Thomas, a let’s-hope-for-the-best Patrick O’Bryant or a WTF-were-we-thinking Stromile Swift signing. Excuse me if trading for cash considerations doesn’t motivate me to rush to acquire a Hawks jersey. And what number does that guy, Cash Considerations, wear anyway?

I like the Jordan Crawford selection. And I LOVED trading James for 2 picks. But punting #31 when you have 3 bigs signed to a contract next season? Uh, NO!

mudcat

June 25th, 2010
10:16 am

So the owners end up with a few million dollars and the fans end up with a bench player. This sucks.

doc

June 25th, 2010
10:23 am

word, unfortunately for your assessment the celts and the lakers are deeep because they dvelop their younger less prominant picks. ever hear of big baby …. second round dude.

again one team steps up, okc, one team defers, atlanta. we will see how it plays out.

Dan

June 25th, 2010
10:27 am

Lets get Joe Johnson, sign Shaun Livingston and Tyson Chandler!!!

O'Brien

June 25th, 2010
10:33 am

AJ,

Cash considerations wear “$”.

If the hawks had taken Crawford at #24, I don’t think anybody would be complaining. So from that POV, the trade was a good move. Get the Guy you want, make $3 mil and also save $190k.

However, I would like to see that money spent on the court. We have the MLE and the bi-annual. Use them. Or if we resign JJ, that $3 mil can be used to offset $1.5 mil into luxury tax territory.

I just hope sound’s idea of veterans are not old guys like Joe Smith who are on their last legs.

Astro Joe

June 25th, 2010
10:37 am

Melvin, insight into Flip-Flops’ fall. I say hide some medicine in his strawberry-banana smoothie and see what happens.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/25/questions-about-maturity-add-cause-whiteside-to-fall-from-first/

Astro Joe

June 25th, 2010
11:01 am

How many mega-FAs are likely the change teams? LeBron, Bosh, Joe, Amare and Boozer? Dirk, Wade and Pierce (if he opts out) are more than likely to stay put. So that’s 5. Heat have room for 2 (in addition to Wade). Chicago has room for 2. Knicks (I think) have room for close to 2. Nets will move heaven and earth to get at least 1. I guess what I am saying is that there are more shoppers than product. Which means guys like Rudy Gay (RFA), David Lee and others may get an inflated offer. But how about the mid-tier FAs like a John Salmons, Brendan Haywood, Kyle Korver or Travis Outlaw? I don’t think our cap space will net much so Sund better be looking at trades if he wants to find an impactful add for this roster. The handful of teams with a big savings account are about to wreck the marketplace for guys who normally may have accepted the MLE.

Astro Joe

June 25th, 2010
11:18 am

Now that we’re past the draft, hopefully we will learn more about Drew’s staff of assistants. The summer league starts in 2-3 weeks (I think).

Melvin

June 25th, 2010
11:32 am

Astro,

I read this morning that FLIP FLOPS may have ADD.

As for the draft, I would have prefer we use the 31st pick on a project big at least. I’m eager to see which vets are sign this summer. I guess we have no choice but to follow the money…

Astro Joe

June 25th, 2010
11:45 am

Good line… The Hawks have concluded a head coaching search and the draft and the only certainty is that ownership turned a profit.

http://www.hoopinionblog.com/?gcid=C12289×022&gtkw=Hoopinion

goldwreck

June 25th, 2010
11:53 am

Don’t let Sund know Jon Koncak is available.

Astro Joe

June 25th, 2010
11:54 am

Another one…To trade back and get nothing more than some green for your bottom line when the opportunity was there to improve the depth of your roster and get one of the big men you had been looking at is a transparent money move for your entire fan base and the league to see.

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2010/6/25/1535940/atlanta-hawks-choose-cash-over

Melvin

June 25th, 2010
12:33 pm

Hawks draft grade per NBADraft..

http://www.nbadraft.net/2010-nba-draft-grades

Oh well, countdown to Harrison Barnes has started. 364 days to go…

Wink

June 25th, 2010
2:04 pm

Here’s the deal:

Joe was offered a contract of 15 mil a year for 4 years he refused to accept it.

Crawford was signed as an insurance policy if we lose Joe this year. Remember Crawford had to give up his player option rights for this coming season (Insurance).

Hawks receive justification because Crawford provided double digit scoring off the bench and was second leading scorer on team; receiving sixth man of year award did not hurt.

Sund retained Bibby, Marvin, & Pachulia to help maintain continuity, even after Joe departs or stays???? However, this move has handicapped the team, as they all had bad to subpar years. Add the fact that Evans exercised his player option and you are looking at your VETERAN bench being quoted today!!!

Woody was allowed to finish his contract, so in essense he was not fired, which saves face for the Spirit somewhat??

Drew as brought in on the cheap, to save some cash ($500K); he showed them some kind of motion offense in a prepared presentation (can you say Jim Mora), which sold them on something other than Iso Joe, and he has over 14 years experience with multiple teams…every head coach had to get a start somewhere… so Spirit offered an inspired two year contract (Take a rest Doc and hang with your kids); the Hawks took the Pay Me Now or Pay Me Later….which one do you think the Spirit took???

Back to the Draft:

To save some cash the Hawks took a gamble that Jordan Crawford would still be available so they would not have to pay the additional dollars for a 24 pick vs dollars at 27th pick.

They feel so good about their team winning 53 games that they went and sold the 31st pick for cash, because they want to save it to add VETERAN players….who Collins, Joe Smith…play more Chillz games….not funny Spirit!

They have also extended a 4.6 mil offer to Chillz; to match any offer and retain his rights.

Now Jordan Crawford (Rook for Bench), fills the need for Jamal Crawford (Insurance), if & when JJ departs for greener pastures…feel me!

Sy says bye bye as they send him overseas to nurture his game with Cenk & others…..

2010 Team:

Teague
Jamal Crawford
Horford
Josh Smith
Marvin / Chillz

Chillz / Marvin
Bibby
Pachulia
Evans
Morris / Joe Smith?? / Siler???

Free Agent Money for Veterans – see any openings / trades?

Wink

June 25th, 2010
2:07 pm

Should have been 2011 team!