Drew’s the man, but what’s the plan?

Well, here we are. As reported by Hawks beat writer Michael Cunningham, Larry Drew has apparently been tabbed as head coach.

Shall there be weeping, lamentation, and gnashing of teeth? How about dancing in the streets and parading down the avenues? Maybe an extreme reaction either way is neither optimal or appropriate. But how do you define extreme, and besides – this is what blogging is about. You know, overreacting as you please, with no penalty other than a faux jab from another blogger (or fifty, depending on how big the frenzy is). Like it or not, the wheel of this ship has been taken by the first mate of the former captain. And no, it was not a mutiny (that we know of).

You Think You Know…

 What should we expect from Larry Drew? Expectations are fluid and tricky. Expect too much, and you will almost certainly be disappoined. Expect too much too soon, and the effect will be similar. Is there a penalty for expecting too little? What will the players expect out of him? What does he expect of himself? All this and more will be learned as time moves on. What’s funny is that idea that perhaps what we think we know may actually be more of an unknown than we suppose. Larry Drew has been an assistant coach on this team for the past six seasons, but do we really know him? My hunch is that we really don’t know this guy. I won’t heap another coal on the head of former coach Mike Woodson, but the simple fact is that it was his voice we’ve always heard, and his philosophy. Drew has chimed in here and there, but only to more or less echo what his boss has to say. Such has been the case with all of Woodson’s assistants, with halftime thirty or forty-five second interviews being the only evidence to the general public that the guys can even talk. And you know what? That’s the case most of the time, on most teams. It’s not an anomaly. In the end, I think we will get to know Larry Drew in ways we could not possibly have, before.

Even the players will. Oh sure, the guys on the roster know him, but do they know what he would do in any given situation? Do they know what he expects of them? I seriously doubt he has taken scenarios that Mike Woodson has experienced, and said “Hey guys, I wouldn’t have done it this way, I would have done it that way.” That sort of attitude never really helps anyone, as it tends to be a breeding ground for more disruption, confusion, and division. Perhaps Drew has, however, taken a player aside and explained why his head coach made a certain decision or did things a certain way. Agreeing with your boss may not be something that happens naturally or even often, but buying into and supporting the edicts you’ve been given do help promote continuity of the team. If this is the approach Drew has taken to his job, his new job will go that much better for him and all that are involved. Sometimes the best way to lead is through influence and persuasion. Again, if Drew realizes this, he is already a step ahead. Or maybe I’m wrong and a more Machiavellian approach is what it takes. Perhaps, perhaps not. We shall see soon enough.

In the meantime, we’ll get to know Larry Drew, the head coach.

 

What’s In a Name?

Coining the old Shakespeare quote, I have to wonder why people get so attached to the names of coaching candidates. When is the last time YOU heard anybody say they had to get tickets for this Saturday night because the Jazz and Jerry Sloan would be in town? How about the Magic and Stan Van Gundy? Will people soon be hyped about going to watch the Cavs and (insert Tim Izzo or whoever takes the job once he says no)? If not, then why be worried about a “brand name” coach? Perception is the only answer I can think of. It’s the reason we separate the winners from the losers, based on our opinions and several skewed statistics. Actually, statistics aren’t skewed. They are just math and numbers. How we use and interpret them is another matter altogether. When a guy wins in one place, it doesn’t guarantee that he won’t lose somewhere else, and vice versa. If this is true nowhere else in the NBA, it’s true on the sideline: production beats flash every time. There’s more opinion out there on the subject as the AJC’s Jeff Schultz feels we might need to look past the lack of style and see the substance. Also, think about this: every guy available for a job has most likely failed somewhere else or never really gotten a chance. That’s the nature of the job in the League. That’s the law of experience cutting both ways. What does that mean? Like all assistants, Larry Drew has neither failed nor succeeded yet. So whether or not the glass is half empty or half full is a tale yet to be told.

Dare To Believe

As a fan base, can we get behind this decision, or will we stay hung up in the details surrounding it? In the case of management, the “why” does matter. In the case of the coach, the only thing that matters is “what.” Translation – Yes, we should be concerned with why management made a decision to go with Larry Drew. However, where Drew himself is concerned, all that matters is what he does now that he is in the position. We can only hope that he and this team do well enough to make us stop thinking so much about why management does what it does.

Maybe Larry Drew’s six years of absolute insider experience with the Hawks will help bridge the gap of those zero years of experience as a head coach in the NBA. Instead of getting to know the guys on this team, perhaps he can focus more on getting them to buy into his own system. And outsider might be more interesting, but last I looked, “interesting” didn’t win games. I have no doubts that Drew will be a “different voice.” In a way, that is a smoke screen. This team doesn’t need “different” as much as it needs “consistently effective.” There has to be something there, that’s worth having after the so-called honeymoon. Will there be an adjustment period of sorts? I would expect so. But it should also be shorter and less profound. Will there still be obstacles and challenges? Yes, but they are likely already identified, if not the reasons behind them. As much as we don’t know about Drew, we do know that he knows enough (far more than we do) about the team. Maybe that can stoke some confidence in the fan base. It certainly should do so for the team.

 

Odds and Ends

- Will this have an effect on whether or not Joe Johnson leaves or stays? I still think it’s all about money and opportunity for Joe Johnson. Aside from the few positive comments Johnson has made in Mike Woodson’s direction, we have no idea how he really felt about Woodson, or how he feels about Drew. There is little reason beyond that of the speculative, to think that Johnson’s decision will be heavily affected by Drew’s promotion to head coach. Then again, you can never count a factor like this out completely. Johnson has to know that some things would change under Drew, from the way they were under Woodson. At the same time, if Johnson has issues with this team, it’s going to be with his teammates as much or more as it could be with who the head coach is. While I don’t think it will ultimately sway his decision, whether or not Johnson believes Larry Drew will hold guys accountable (as in moreso than Woodson) might be a factor. The question is how much of one.

- The inevitable watch on Jeff Teague will commence from the time he goes to summer league, and Larry Drew will not be able to escape this spotlight in the slightest. Known as a point guard coach, Drew’s work with Teague will be compared, perhaps unfairly, to that of Mike Woodson and every young point guard he has dealt with the entire six years he was here. If Teague flops or struggles mightily, it will get very noisy, very fast. Drew will come under fire from both the fan base, and from his bosses (let’s not forget, this is Sund’s draft pick, and Michael Gearon has made public comments about Teague’s playing time). If Teague does well, this bodes well for Drew. Fair or not, right or wrong, this will be watched….maybe even moreso than how Drew handles Josh Smith. Well, okay, we may have a tie on that one. Another guy to watch? Marvin Williams. Do we expect Drew to turn these guys into something they aren’t, haven’t been, or otherwise? Should we? Will we?

- We have absolutely no insight into what defensive or offensive philosophy Larry Drew holds. Again, it may not be fair, but he will be judged against everything Mike Woodson did. If he does anything that Woodson used to do, he’ll hear it from the masses (until it proves to be successful on a consistent basis). But first, he will have to get the players to buy into what he wants to do. That is where the true challenge lies. I don’t know about you, but I’m a tad anxious to see what Drew does with this team.

- How much input will Larry Drew have in the draft and free agency decisions? Will Sund make a public statement on this issue? Will it matter? And though we’ll likely never find out (but you never know what will be said in the formal announcement), what WAS it that made Larry Drew’s interview presentation so impressive?

One issue decided on Hawks Fans. The Summer of Sund continues.

202 comments Add your comment

vava74

June 13th, 2010
10:52 am

I always said around here that I have “a romantic view” about sports. I love feel good stories, the long hard road to success by the improbable ones.

So the hiring of Drew – following this simple piece of inside news from Smitty – is just what I needed to rekindle my hopes for a good showing next year (regardless of JJ returning).

I know that everyone only thinks about “championship”, I, on the other hand, am content when I see a group competing and extracting their best, just like we did against Boston 2 years ago (home games only).

That is why I was so frustrated midway this year when I realized that, contrary to my hopes, Woody had not evolved as an HC and we were doomed to witness what we eventually did: a huge missed opportunity.

If JJ does leave, the 2009-10 season should be known to the Hawks fans as: “the long playoff run that never was”.

Let us forget about the word “title” or “championship”. First let us concentrate in the word “competing”.

Come playoff time Woody’s system had as many chances of success as someone has to win the lotto without buying a single ticket.

I don’t know Drew’s ability as an HC, but what he did shows balls, will power, desire, the capacity to rally people behind him and that he is not afraid to take risks and break face attempting (and apparently a good relationship and trust in Teague).

After a showing like this, only a cold blooded fool would not have at least strongly consider him for the position.

I am glad that they did and now I stand 100% behind his hiring.

I just hope that they find another big man coach which is more skilled than Tyrone Hill to help out developing our player’s low post game (Hill must stay after this showing of loyalty, however, a guy who had ZERO post moves cannot teach a lot beyond hustle).

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
11:57 am

You know what? Doug Collins will change the 76ers offense. Avery will change the Nets offense. Williams will change what the Hornets do. Jackson/Casey would have changed the Hawks offense. BFD that Drew demonstrated what he would do differently. Did anyone really expect that the next coach of the Hawks was going to maintain the status quo?

Sounds like we should expect Ty Hill to stock around. Surely the trade off for helping Drew land a job is Hill keeping one.

I’m glad watching Drew run a few offensive sets made the ASG feel better abot this hire. Whatever it takes to make them feel good that the team’s new voice is one that’s been herad in practice, film study and games for 6 years.

vava74

June 13th, 2010
12:17 pm

Astro and his bag of manure.
The story continues…

TRUTH

June 13th, 2010
12:33 pm

Larry Hoop Dee Drew??!! Really?? Lemme guess, he was cheap!! Another guess, The Hawks don’t WANT to attract veteran talent?? Lat one, there is a lot to be said about MEDIOCRITY!!

Woody was the best option. Period. The players were buying into his system and Woody truly had NO players!! Horford is a talent. Josh Smith could be a talent but has maturity issues. Joe Johnson, well he’s good compared to the talent on the team. Let’s face it, the Hawks are comprised of a bunch of bench players forced into starting roles. We all say it, I just said it out loud.

All of the name brand free agents out there and we hire Larry Drew. Incredible. Not Avery Johnson, ooohhhh noooo, not Byron Scott, neverrrr, or the host of other qualified coaches, name coaches, that we could have gotten here. That’s par for the course here in the ATL, M-E-D-I-O-C-R-I-T-Y!!

What name free agent wants to come here? I mean really. Bibby was about the most known vet we got, and when was the last good game he had? Joe Johnson was out to lunch during the playoffs, and Josh, well he is still interested in arguing his point on fouls as if he was a marquee player. Folks, Atlanta DOES NOT have a marquee player. And after this pick for head coach, not a marquee coach either.

Owners, Atlanta Spirit, or whatever the new name is, get a clue, hire talent. Spend the money and get the talent. I know you get tired, like us fans, when we see a Hawk game on TV or live at Philips, the seats EMPTY!! Its the PRODUCT. The PRODUCT is mediocre. Which keeps butts out of the seats.

All we want is a winner and a coach who has the players capable of execution. Some name players would go a long way with that. Can we work on that??!!!

Jeez……

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
1:17 pm

Yeah vava, you certainly have established yourself as the beacon of optimism.

Big Ray

June 13th, 2010
2:32 pm

Astro Joe and Vava74 , Episode 3,249.

This week, Astro Joe decides to take a sarcastic and cynical view of something. Vava takes a shot at him for it.

Wait…is this a re-run?

Big Ray

June 13th, 2010
2:32 pm

O'Brien

June 13th, 2010
3:38 pm

AJ,

We have no idea about the interview process. Assuming Mark Jackson was running third due to his lack of experience, we dont know who wanted who. Did Sund want Drew? Or was Casey his choice due to his familiarity with him? Where did the ASG fit in? Maybe Casey did not interview as well. Maybe Casey’s plan for the offense was not as interesting as Drew’s.

If Drew interviewed better than Casey, if Drew has a very good relationship with JJ, if Drew’s plans for player accountability and defense seemed to be more effective than Casey’s, would you have wanted the ASG to still select Casey?

I wish ASg would just let Rick do the hiring, but I dont know how it all went down. Although being on the outside, I might have leaned towards Casey, I will give Drew the benefit of the doubt.

But Rick Sund will need to make some moves, because just changing the coach is not enough.

niremetal

June 13th, 2010
3:57 pm

O’Brien, with the post of the day.

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
4:10 pm

OB, I’m not hating on Drew at all. He had the burden (of the 3 candidates) to prove that he was the anti-Woody and he chose a tactic that helped him deliver that message. Casey and Jackson likely did not enter the discussion feeling the need to distance themselves from Woody since their was no prior connection. Likewise, he used the advantage of the relationships he has built with players and peers to further his candidacy. One can’t help but be impressed by his interviewing strategy. Brilliant, sincerely, brilliant.

Hopefully, the interview played little in the ultimate decision. Sund should have known enough about the work of Casey and Drew that a few good hours of conversation should not have had a tremendous affect on the ultimmate decision. Oops, that’s right, Sund may not have made the ultimate decision… that probably came from someone within the ASG who needed to be “sold” through an interview process.

Again, I wish nothing but the best for Drew and I hope he becomes the winningest coach in franchise history. But given the way this decision-making body operates, if that happens I will believe it was mostly dumb luck. But it won’t stop me from cheering.

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
4:22 pm

Bruce Bowen needs to lose the bow-tie… he looks ridiculous.

Big Ray

June 13th, 2010
4:27 pm

Considering what we’re dealing with, I’m okay with dumb luck. :)

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
4:30 pm

Ray. Yeah, well you know, I was cheering during a 53-win seasons even though some around here we’re predicting (correctly) doom and gloom in the post-season. So I obviously don’t need much to cheer.

doc

June 13th, 2010
5:44 pm

well here goes the first volley. i see us having a better offense but scoring less. will that be appreciated or even noticed. we can only compare if the team as it was built last year has the same people in place and the same lack of injuries. that also might be lost on the masses. i hope he has the same team on place plus a few other pieces to build around. finally the offense and drew’s success will be based on victories and how his offense holds up in crunch time.

again i say, drew glad you are here and i got your back for now. as a fan, i hold my right to jump off whenever i want. heh heh

well before i pony up for next season we will see what my boy rick holds up his sleeve. can he pull another steal of two in a row, rehab bibby to excellence by finding him the fountain of youth and sign jj or the equivalent pieces to help the team in a sign and trade. onward nd upward my boy sund, convince me and others to FILL THE PHIL. maybe i ought to copyright that one. ;-)

O'Brien

June 13th, 2010
6:11 pm

Doc,

we might not win as many games early on like we did last year (assuming JJ comes back). But hopefully the team will play more like a team united. Win as a team, and lose as a team (compared to win with ISO Joe, lose with ISO Joe).

And then hopefully we will finish the year strong with a good showing in the playoffs.

AJ,

It could be dumb luck, but we will never know for sure.

vava74

June 13th, 2010
6:52 pm

The bottom line gentlemen is that Casey has showed little to nothing during his tenure as an HC to give him any (significant) advantage against Drew besides the fact that he was well known to Sund.

Drew has a long experience in the league as both a player and an assistant coach, knows the organization, the team and all of its problems. That advantage was there.

Then he showed that he had the balls to break conventions and come from behind with a creative and gutsy presentation, detaching himself completely from Woody’s era.

That, for me is more than enough to give him a clear cut advantage over Casey whose description on the main blog by a guy from the Wolves’ blog made me cringe in absolute fear.

Would that presentation by drew have been enough to dethrone a Phil Jackson, a Jerry Sloan or an Adelman in a head to head candidacy?

No, but for goodness sakes, in this case his adversaries were a guy with ZERO coaching experience and a guy who was not particularly successful whilst coaching one of the most dominant players in the league (albeit with a dysfunctional roster around him).

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
7:24 pm

I hope that Drew has a decent budget to work with as he looks to buils his staff. I hav to guess that hiring an ex-head coach is a little more expensive than adding someone like Darrell Armstrong to the staff. I hope that he has the dough to build a very solid staff to work the details. I’d be shocked if Ty Hill isn’t retained. Horford has indicated that Hill helped him in the past and Hill just helped Drew land the gig. If we’re going with this notion of “knowing the personnel is an advantage” line of thinking, then it could also apply to some percentage of his staff. I wonder who will become the team’s “defensive coordinator” given Drew’s offensive acumen?

vava74

June 13th, 2010
7:58 pm

Astro,

It’s pretty obvious that Ty will have to stay after being a part of the presentation.

I still think we need to add someone to the staff with actual offensive low post move teaching skills.

Defensively, my initial strategy would be stick with the switching D as our main defense against most of the worst teams in the league (against whom it worked most of the year) and play a mix of man to man and zone against the best teams (or the teams against which the switching D proved ineffective).

It’s all about scouting and finding a good balance instead of blindly sticking with plan A.

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
8:16 pm

vava, I don’t think we have the luxry of two “big man” voaches. Not unless Hill (or the other guy) has a more significant role. But honestly, I don’t understand the Hill criticism. Dude just finished tutoring a 6′9″ guy into an All-Star center… what’s the issue (other than our bigs can’t set screens)?

O'Brien

June 13th, 2010
8:37 pm

AJ,

Just like I will give drew the benefit of the doubt, I guess I will give ty hill the benefit of the doubt too. I look forward to reading about who will be drew’s assistants.

What I would like to see drew and our big man coach do is get Josh to cut down on his jump shots, and know when to give the ball up on the break.

Vava,

I Would like to see the hawks start out man to man. Once Teague stops reaching and stops committing silly fouls, our defense on the ball will be better. And if JJ comes back, everybody will be able to defend their position.

But I agree that there is a place for switching based on the matchups.

Sautee

June 13th, 2010
8:53 pm

AJ,

It’s not just our bigs. Bibby is the ONLY decent screener on the team.

Hopefully if Drew has a patterned offense, they’ll all get better at it.

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
8:55 pm

If getting a guy who is playing out of his natural position to be an All-Star in his 3rd year is not tangible evidence of an assistant coach’s performance, then I truly don’t understand how to measure a “position” coach in the NBA. The only way Josh may learn to do some of those things that you referenced, OB, is for Drew o sit him down when he does those things. It’s the one stick head coaches have, playing time. And Woody was unwilling to bench his best help defender when he made a boneheaded decision on the other side of the court.

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
9:00 pm

Sautee, true. And while I tend to blame the screener, I think the ballhandler was also to blame sometimes…. because he is supposed to wait until the screener stops moving before making his move. It’s kind of like blaming the QB for every interception when sometimes the receiver runs the wrong route. But bottom line, we have to get better at screens next season (among other things).

O'Brien

June 13th, 2010
9:41 pm

Some good stuff from MC’s blog.

I talked to some players this weekend, and all of them said they expect LD’s approach to be different than Woody’s. Drew often ran the second-team offense in practice and was said to deploy creative sets, with one player describing them as a “fun” departures from the isolations. Another player said when things went badly for the Hawks, LD tended to be more of an “encourager” than a “screamer” and focused his energy on laying out a detailed plan for how the Hawks can get better.

So is Woody a screamer? If he is, I bet he only screamed at certain guys…

, The players credited Woody with creating a loose atmosphere that made it enjoyable for them to come to work but then they didn’t get serious when it was time to do so. Woody backed off from the long, hard and frequent practices players didn’t like and in the end they didn’t work as hard as they should. Woody gave them on-court freedom (especially J.J.) and instead of taking that trust and becoming a free-flowing offensive team, they became a selfish “get mine” kind of team–and resisted Woody’s efforts to get them to share the ball.

It will be interesting to see how they respond to Drew. Because the relationship is so much different when it’s HC Drew as opposed to assistant HC Drew.

Astro Joe

June 13th, 2010
9:57 pm

OB, MC’s blog had some interesting opposites in it. Woody wanted to create a loose atmosphere but alledgedly would yell. He had an iso-heavy offense yet MC says that the players didn;t respond when he insisted that they share the ball. He gave players freedom ut not all of them.

Woody was the same to his players as he was to the fans. If you choose to find something positive in his leadership, he provided the evidence. but if you were looking to criticize, he provided plenty of ammo, also. A player could enjoy a loose atmosphere and freedom but could also be yelled at and restricted.

richbrave

June 13th, 2010
10:47 pm

drMaryb:

What’s up lady? I see DREW is in the house. The WIZ tried a third time to get TOM THIBODEAU, no luck. He would have been my pick for HC here in ATLANTA. If the HAWKS draft at #54, I recommend a big from TULSA by the name of JEROME JORDAN. I think he’s gonna’ be a solid center in the NBA.

Blew through HOTLANTA a couple of weeks ago. Did a three week walk-about through the southeast. LITTLE SWITZERLAND, BILTMORE, week in MYRTLE with the grandbabies, through ATLANTA and BIRMINGHAM to MEMPHIS and ARKANSAS. Saw ELVIS at GRACELAND. Went to JACKSON and VICKSBURG. Back through MISSISSIPPI into ALABAMA on the NATCHEZ TRACE. FLORENCE, ALABAMA to CHATTANOOGA, to BRYSON CITY, N.C. Took a train ride, then on to the BLUE RIDGE PARKWAY. ASHEVILLE again, and up to MEADOWS of DAN then back to smoggy old RICHMOND, 3,331 miles. Nice trip. Declaring bankruptcy when the credit card comes in.

richbrave

June 13th, 2010
10:51 pm

doc/Big Ray:

HAYWOOD is gonna’ be free this summer. How about adding him to the front-line?

O'Brien

June 14th, 2010
6:47 am

richbrave,

I think the Hawks would love to have Haywood. But Mark Cuban will probably pay him whatever it takes to stay in Dallas. And Haywood would not want to leave Dallas where he would probably start over Dampier, only to come to the Hawks as a backup.

AJ,

That’s probably why the shelf-life of a coach in the NBA is so short (unless you’re HOF quality). Because the same things that a player likes about you, will be the same thing that gets you fired eventually.

6 years was a lot of time for Woody. You hardly see any coach stay with one team that long.

vava74

June 14th, 2010
7:16 am

Astro,

Low post moves. Our “bigs”, with the exception of RandMo, don’t have a real low post game.

O'Brien

June 14th, 2010
7:18 am

nire,

Your guy might be available. From the Oregon newspaper;

Trail Blazers coach Nate McMillan is poised to shake up his staff, and it appears he has targeted longtime NBA coach Bernie Bickerstaff to serve as his right-hand man.

Sources say lead assistant Dean Demopoulos and assistant Joe Prunty will not be retained, which comes after assistant Monty Williams left the team to become the head coach of New Orleans.

I wonder who Drew’s right hand man will be? I would love to have a guy like Bernie Bickerstaff on our bench. Demopoulous would probably be a good addition too.

Astro Joe

June 14th, 2010
9:33 am

vava, no doubt Horford needs to add a counter move or 2 to his growing arsenal. But I have little doubt that he will get it done and at this point, I have total confidence in Hill to help make that happen. No one can claim that Horford and Smith weren’t much better in the blocks this past season than the previous one.

Astro Joe

June 14th, 2010
9:45 am

OB, no doubt, Woody’s time was up. he tried some different tricks (eyebrows, utilizing his bigs more in half-court sets, playing Al with Zaza toward the end of the season) but ultimately, the players tuned him out and he ran out of tricks. Bickerstaff would be a great add to the bench. Heaven knows that his Bobcats always gave the Hawks fits even when they had a third of our talent.

During my morning commute, the sports radio shows had a very luke-warm recaction to the Drew hiring. Several said “we’ll wait and see”, kind of like “if youdon’t have anything nice to say…” One guy did suggest that if this was the candidate the players wanted, they should not have hired him, because these players haven’t earned the right to pick their coach. He said that should only be something that a proven championship team gets to do… pick their coach. Another speculated that if Drew were Sund’s choice, then this would have been done a few weeks ago. That guy believes this was an ASG hire, with Sund still preferring Casey.

They will be on-hand for the 4:00 press conference. Oh yeah, and they already mentioned that they won’t buy into any comparisons between Drew and Gentry, since Gentry had a lot of previous head coaching experience.

Astro Joe

June 14th, 2010
9:50 am

One more thing, from strictly a marketing perspective, the sports talk guys spent more time discussing Vince Evans’ fight at a strip club, World Cup soccer and the latest Vanity Fair article than they did the Hawks new coach. I expected more coverage of the college football re-structuring, game 5 of the finals and the Braves solid road trip… but I surely didn’t expect the Drew hire to get less play than World Cup soccer. Egads!

Melvin

June 14th, 2010
9:53 am

Astro,

Hill may not be the best big man coach when it comes to offensive moves but I’m sure he does scary alot of people with that face in practice. Lord forbid if he has stink breathe. My gosh, he would be a shutdown defender…

Melvin

June 14th, 2010
9:56 am

Somebody tell Ron Artest that Queensbridge is going to be where the Laker fans hang him from…

Defense my arse. Give me a great offensive player over a defensive standout any day…

O'Brien

June 14th, 2010
10:00 am

AJ,

I think Casey would have been Sund’s choice too. Former HC, prior relationship with Sund, and a completely new voice. Did Drew win Sund over, or did the ASG get their man, I don’t know.

When BK wanted to fire Woody, he would have named Drew the interim HC for the rest of the season. But the ASG said no. And now the ASG wants to make Drew the HC 2 years later? Either way, something doesn’t add up.

I don’t think it is comparable to the Gentry hiring either. Gentry had HC experience as you mentioned, but also, he still utilizes some of D’Antoni’s offense. His main difference is on defense, and he uses his bench more than D’Antoni did. And its not like Phonenix necessarily wanted a ‘new voice’, as Sund calls it.

I do think Drew needs to light a fire under the players, because they were too complacent at times. And I hope he starts from day one.

From the marketing standpoint, it all comes back to ATL fans being so diverse.

Astro Joe

June 14th, 2010
10:17 am

OB, most employees don’t mind putting in hard work as long as it translates into success. In this case, success won’t be measured until after 82 regular season games. That could create some issues… I hope that he doesn’t burn them out trying to be the anti-Woody in the first 60 games or so.

Astro Joe

June 14th, 2010
11:10 am

Nothing really new from Sekou here, but I thought I’d share it anyway:

http://www.790thezone.com/instantreplay/Episodes.aspx?PID=1345

Daniel

June 14th, 2010
11:10 am

Just checking in to maintain my Hawks blog cred. I am deep in the World Cup right now (sorry AJ).
Larry Drew….. HHMMMM.
I would say that if we hired him from a different team we would have less issues, so that is a positive.
Did they just hire him because he is cheap? Everyone denies it, but…..
Either the ASG is brave, Drew is the man, knew they faced the fact that LD would be perceived as a cheap, boring option, but went with the “best man” anyway.
Or are our fears true…. are the Hawks becoming the Thrashers?
I have not had enough time or energy to form an opinion yet.
Peace to my peeps.

Melvin

June 14th, 2010
11:20 am

Astro,

I thought Sekou articulated one of my main concern. Why wait this long to hire an Asst Coach that’s already on your staff? And he touch on one of my conspiracies that hiring Drew has more to do with keeping the current core of players intact. They probably feel that Drew gives them the best opportunity to maximize the current core of players.

Astro Joe

June 14th, 2010
11:28 am

Melvin, true ‘dat.

Astro Joe

June 14th, 2010
11:45 am

Interesting from the standpoint of either trading #24 or trying to acquire Jack:

Chad Ford
Raptors hope to clean house

“… the Raptors are not just sitting around. Rather, Colangelo is shopping Hedo Turkoglu, Jose Calderon and Jarrett Jack with an eye toward making trades before July 1. The same source told me that a Turkoglu trade was already in the works and could happen by the draft. While the source was confident something would happen, the source didn’t disclose the potential destination(s). The Calderon and Jack discussions are moving more slowly, but over the past few days the Raptors have been pressing forward on those fronts as well. At the same time, the Raptors appear to be closing in on a trade for an additional first-round pick. Colangelo has called every team with multiple picks looking for something in the 20s, according to sources.”

Melvin

June 14th, 2010
11:47 am

Marvin/Bibby for Turk/Jack? I haven’t check the salaries but you think?

Astro Joe

June 14th, 2010
11:57 am

Melvin, I was think a variation of that, but including our 1st round pick and they send back cash as well. Or, we keep our pick and send Zaza. But there is definitely something there worth speculating over.

O'Brien

June 14th, 2010
12:57 pm

Jarrett Jack for 3 years, $15 mil is ok. And I like Turk, but not for 4 years, $44 mil.

I think this deal might have been mentioned by Melvin previously, but if the Hawks are looking for a bad contract, I would look into Okafor’s 4 years $52 mil contract from the Hornets if we can get Collison too, who is still on his rookie contract.

And depending on what happens later on, it might allow the Hawks to trade Josh Smith, start Okafor at Center, and move Al to PF (depending on what Josh would bring in return for a trade).

vava74

June 14th, 2010
1:05 pm

Drew was not in the race, he is a “late-entry-come-from-behind-to-win” feel good story and that is the sole reason for the fact that they signed him after such a long deliberation.

This should have some resonance in the fans’ spirits and not the opposite.

As an outsider, I find it odd that the typical “american dream” story no longer hits the cord amongst you and that it is received so coldly.

You have gone a lot less mellow and my take is that you stopped watching all those beautiful early holywood “feel good” movies. :-)

Come on! Even if he only makes it past the second round of the playoffs, this will have “american dream” written all over it.

vava74

June 14th, 2010
1:12 pm

I have a hunch that under Drew and with JJ gone Marvin will prove himself valuable and an excellent contributor.

Eventually as a 6-man, but valuable the same.

Melvin

June 14th, 2010
1:51 pm

Vava,

I hoped it doesn’t sound like I bashing Drew b/c that’s not my intend. I hope he does well and take this team to the next level. However, I dislike the process on how he was hired. As Sekou mention in his interview, if you are going to fire the current coach, at least have a list of candidates in mind. Why in the heck did Drew came out of left field at the 11th hour? Sounds very suspect to me. Especially after Sund mention that he had a long list of candidates in which he had to evaluate from then make his recommendations to management after the interview process.

Astro Joe

June 14th, 2010
2:01 pm

vava, he’s a long-time NBA assistant, he’s not a diehard fan from the upper decks of the arena. I think you may be confusing Larry Drew with Whoopi’s character in Eddie. :lol:

Big Ray

June 14th, 2010
2:16 pm

Many reasons to suspect the ASG of internal “tampering” on the head coach thing. Right now, it’s hard for people to separate that from what Drew himself can do in the job. Reason being, we are nowhere near the start of the season, so we have no clue.

In the meantime, I hope Sund does some things this summer that takes our minds off of these types of subjects. In a positive way, that is…