Sifting through noise and nonsense

There is a lot of it out there, and we all know this is just the beginning. All the rumors, be they about draft picks, free agents, coaches, etc. Speaking of which, has there ever been this many NBA head coach vacancies (or at least uncertainties, such as with Boston’s Doc Rivers) going into the summer?

The New Head Coach

No, we still don’t know who it is, or who it is going to be. But if it makes you feel any better, fans of several other NBA teams are in the same position right now. Only the Sixers fans have the luxury of either extolling or lamenting the choice of their new head coach (Doug Collins). A couple of the latest hot shot assistants seem to be seem to be getting closer to a deal if reports are to be believed. Well, did that make you feel better? Yeah, me neither….

 

Draft – Deft or Daft?

Some of you have already sounded off on assistant general manager david pendergraft’s draft day revelations, but that doesn’t mean we can’t still talk about it. As usual prospects are moving up and down the draft boards of most mock drafts, and probably on those of individual NBA teams as well. Take for instance, a one Mr. Kevin Seraphin, the French team center with the NBA body, who originally seemed like he might be available by the time the Hawks are on the clock. However, draftexpress.com has him going sooner than that. As always, things change quickly. Seraphin sustained an injury that will keep him out of NBA workouts for the next two weeks at least. If you’re not a fan of the pick, it won’t matter anyway, and of course there is no such thing as a completely and totally correct mock draft, let alone 20 plus days before the draft actually gets here. But what of other possible prospects?

Some say the Hawks need to be locked in on a player who can contribute in the frontcourt, the type the Hawks passed on last year in DeJuan Blair. Among those mentioned is Mississippi State’s JarvisVarnado, a 6′9″ shot swatter who also rebounds pretty well. His wingspan is impressive (7′3.5″), but at a suspect weight (does he really weigh 230, or is it 210?), he might be little more than another, slightly better Solomon Jones (though that’s not a bad thing when we’re talking role player). Another option would be Iowa State’s Craig Brackins , who is a completely different type. While Varnado is a defender/rebounder who struggles with his offensive approach to the game, Brackins is a power forward with range on his shot (3 point range, at that) with not-so-great rebounding skills and issues defending either the post or the perimeter.

Could Georgia Tech’s Gani Lawal be of service? His offensive skills are limited and he needs to become more disciplined on defense, but the energy level and work ethic are there. What of Dexter Pittman, the center from the University of Texas? Pittman’s main challenge has been his weight and body fat percentage, but his overall size is intriguing (6′11″ in shoes, 300 pounds, big hands). But would the Hawks be finding the next Glen “Big Baby” Davis, or even Jahidi White? Or would he just be another guy with intriguing size, but no real substance? Of course, the funny thing is that most of the guys mentioned above are slated in the second round. Should the Hawks pull the trigger early on one of them and not worry about where they are slotted, or should they wait and hope that one of them is around when the Hawks pick again, late in the 2nd round?

If the Hawks decide to wait on a big guy, then what kind of player should they target with their first pick? Not many have suggested a point guard, and probably for good reason. Some prospects that could be available by the time the Hawks pick include Kentucky’s Eric Bledsoe, Mississipi’s Terrico White, Kansas’ Sherron Collins, Maryland’s Greivis Vasquez, and California’s Jerome Randle (whom Draftexpress currently has the Hawks taking in the second round of the draft). Some of these guys are combo guards who don’t necessarily show the ability and awareness to be the type of floor leader the Hawks need. Others reportedly have the same problems that current Hawks point guard Jeff Teague was said to have. Either way, another point guard pick would probably raise the ire of most fans, and isn’t a great gamble with a latter first round selection.

That moves us on to the wing players, some of whom are clearly either shooting guards or small forwards, and others who can play both. While the story may not be completely done on Marvin Williams, many players have revealed what they can or simply will be by their fifth year. The Hawks can’t afford to gamble on the idea that Williams will surge back to respectability (and worthy of a starting role) either on his own or under a new head coach. In addition, Maurice Evans may not be around as an able (but undersized) option. So perhaps it would behoove Atlanta to looking into another swingman. The more versatile the better? Maybe, considering Joe Johnson may be gone by summer’s end, leaving Jamal Crawford the only currently credible gunner/scorer in the backcourt guaranteed to be under contract when the 2010-2011 season begins. Not that there won’t be other guys signed if Johnson is gone, or even that Johnson is sure to leave, but options have to be considered, don’t they? Okay, enough rambling, on to the prospects:

James Anderson of Oklahoma State could be available when Atlanta’s turn comes around, but he’s a mixed bag. Apathetic and rather ineffective on defense, Anderson can get it done on the offensive end, including some ability to get to the free throw line. Does Anderson’s potential make him a worthwhile gamble? Maybe, or maybe not. If a guy can’t be convinced to play defense by the time he has completed his junior year of college, it won’t be any easier in the pros. The Hawks need an improved defensive effort from their backcourt, not a regression. And while it’s become more cliche than the average Hawks fan probably likes “if JJ leaves”, then this problem becomes exacerbated. Exponentially. Up next is Stanley Robinson of Connecticut. Robinson has been compared to guys like Gerald Wallace, and that can’t be bad. Among his attributes include his ability to defend several positions, explosive athleticism (don’t we just love the cliches), a budding/decent spot up three pointer, and a tenacity on the boards. Robinson seems to have room to grow everywhere, but no areas that don’t look entirely fixable. Could he be like Corey Brewer of the Minnesota Timberwolves (only better)?

Possibly more intriguing is Washington’s Quincy Pondexter. This kid has potential and substance on both ends of the floor. Lacking good range from deep, Pondexter does well getting to the basket or hitting from midrange. He can also guard a variety of positions (always a plus) and has both the desire and focus to suceed defensively. Let me say that again: DESIRE and FOCUS. We can use more of that, can we not?

Needless to say, these are not all of the guys who might be available when the Hawks pick. However, it seems right now that guys like Xavier Henry (Kansas), Paul George (Fresno State), and Damion James (Texas) maybe be out of reach. But hey, we’re fans so we can hope and dream all we like.

Which positions would we as fans like to see the Hawks address in the first round? How about in the second? Should the Hawks try and pick up a college player in the second round, or another guy to stash overseas so that they don’t have to pay that guaranteed cash? Do you have another draft prospect that you feel should have been mentioned? Let’s hear it!

123 comments Add your comment

Sautee

June 2nd, 2010
8:08 pm

Oh no, do I have to use the F word?

BrittishAnger

June 2nd, 2010
8:11 pm

BrittishAnger

June 2nd, 2010
8:12 pm

Sucks, ever so close….

BrittishAnger

June 2nd, 2010
8:17 pm

Speaking of Big-Baby clones, nbadraft.net had us listed as drafting a Brazilian named Paulo Prestes a few weeks back, whose skills would be somewhere between Michael Batiste at the Panathiniakos level and Glen Davis. I’m still intrigued and hopeful our second round pick would go to somebody like that, a solid big to really build around at a bench level the way Zaza has been for the last couple of years. I think our first round pick will be a barometer regarding going forward with J.J., and I liked the idea of drafting Elliot Williams to have another southpaw to match with Josh going forward…I’m loving this insane summer already, let’s see what happens…

Sautee

June 2nd, 2010
8:17 pm

Nice stuff, Ray.

I’d say that while SF, PG and backup C/PF are the needs, go for a “contributor” at whichever position with #24. Or better yet, use Zaza to trade up to mid-round if we find a willing partner. With the 2nd round pick, go for a banger. Then use the MLE to sign Haywood, or the like.

Maybe by the draft Sund will have a read on what JJ will / might do. That would have a huge effect on draft strategy.

Sautee

June 2nd, 2010
8:19 pm

Sorry BA. If I’d known it meant so much to you, I’d have waited. ;-)

BrittishAnger

June 2nd, 2010
8:38 pm

@Sautee; it’s nothing serious man. I’ve received the honors before, but from the looks of the screen I was a contender tonight…next time Gadget, next time….

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uglyhelmet

June 2nd, 2010
9:49 pm

I don’t like Texas all that much “”BUT”" – I would love to get James (1st round) / Pittman (2nd). Backup plan would be Stanley Robinson (1st) / Pittman (2nd). JMO.

truthspitter

June 2nd, 2010
10:41 pm

Pondexter does not show desire. He only came on in his last year, that shows he is hungry to make money and the light came on when he saw that chance being hurt by his performance the 1st 3 years. Bledsoe, Bradley, Whiteside: If any of those 3 fall get them.
Sanders, Varnado both would go good would Zaza and his lack of defensive presence, SWAT trumphs Sanders due to the competition he played against and his total consistency.
Brackins comes after Whiteside, Varnado, and Sanders
Damion James or Paul George jump on them if they are there jump on them.
Lastly if all eles fails give Pondexter then Stanley Robinson a look.

Break the bank!

June 2nd, 2010
10:42 pm

The hawks need to break out the cash and pay whatever it takes to get D-Wade and Bosh, even if they pay them $20 mil per year each! They are easily worth it. Just raise prices to pay these salaries—atlanta fans will pay whatever to see a winner.

niremetal

June 2nd, 2010
11:08 pm

doc

June 3rd, 2010
12:13 am

Testing testing tsting

123

Test test

doc

June 3rd, 2010
12:15 am

sautee seems to be in form

Ed

June 3rd, 2010
2:57 am

Ray, picking at number 24 you must have a lot of flexiblity if you are going to pickup a future gem. If a player you had rated highly falls through, you gotta go with him and not force a position pick. Also, you have to be willing to roll the dice on certain concerns such as last year with Blair. It was the potential for future injury from something that happened in high school that dropped him to the second round. Of course the Hawks would say that last thing they were going to draft last year was another 6′9″ player. One example this year is Bledsoe even though we have Teague. Bledsoe never got to show off his point guard skills because of Wall, but he was a big time recruit. He would have been better served to have attended another school, or stayed for another year. Regardless, his potential is very high and would be well worth the risk.

Najeh Davenpoop

June 3rd, 2010
3:22 am

“Sifting through nonsense” is right… with all the straight up idiotic trade suggestions and free agent signing suggestions getting posted on these blogs every day from now until the season starts, it’s going to be damn near impossible to even read through them for the next few months.

Big Daddy

June 3rd, 2010
7:09 am

Ray, your choices are sound and I would like to think that the Hawks are going to make a choice that will help the team. The draft beyond the 10th pick always seems like such a crapshoot. I remember drafts with highly touted picks like Goose Givens, Rumeal Robinson and most recently Marvin Williams who did not live up to expectations. But there have also been drafts where there was a player who lived up to expectations and beyond, Dominique Wilkins, Kevin Willis and most recently Al Horford.

I think Teague has real potential and hopefully we can get someone in who can be a great role player at 24 through the draft. Maybe we can get Stanley Robinson or Quincy Poindexter. I believe our best possibility for drafting a good player is going to be for the small forward position. Someone who can be in the high 30’s or low 40 in percentage on the 3 and is willing and able to take it to the rim when available. However, I think our best bet for substantial help is going to be through free agency or trades.

O'Brien

June 3rd, 2010
7:36 am

Hawks can use help at every position. We need another SF, a backup PF, a defensive minded Center, a third (preferably defensive minded) PG, and a SG (especially if JJ leaves, and Mo opts out).

My preference would be to address our center and 3rd PG needs in free agency. But with so many holes, I agree with Ed. Picking at #24, I think you go with the best available player, regardless of position. And whatever position we don’t address in the draft, can be addressed in free agency.

This is line with what the assistant GM said, so I hope that means they are prepared to spend the MLE, the bi-annual exception, and bring Chills back (or sign and trade him) to get some players in here.

And I think that will have to be one of the selling points for JJ. Convince him that you will use both exceptions to bring quality free agents in here, to help us be more competitive.

The big question mark is how much the ASG is willing to spend.

wordsmithtom

June 3rd, 2010
7:46 am

Watched Varnado during the tournament. He isn’t beefy, but his willingness to hit the floor and jump into the stands for loose balls reminds me of “The Worm”. He will never be that “true center” guy we’ve long needed…forget that. But he is a defensive minded player. If beef we want; why not replace Collins with Siler? Given a full year of play in China, he’s got to be better than last summer, and Woody liked him then. I know, anything Woody liked is suspect….NOT. Woody was a good coach. He just had limited offensive vision and inability to adapt. He did, however, have a pretty good insight into players’ talent… Siler may never be a “Big Baby”, but he’s smart, strong, and we know the Cheeseberger is past his prime and RandMo can’t guard his shadow. RandMo can shoot, but we already have that in ZaZa. If we package ZaZa in a draft up trade, then we keep RandMo who can shoot. Rather have him than over-the-hill we already have riding the pines.

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
9:18 am

Good stuff, Ray. I’m with Sautee, find me someone who can contribute immediately, I don’t care if he is a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or a heckuva mascot. Just someone who brings it hard (and “smartly”) when they are on the floor. And despite the notion that draft slotting is a predictor of your long-term success, I would love to see the Hawks purchase another 1st round pick from one of those teams with an extra choice in the 20s. I’d much rather have a late 1st round pick in roster slot 9-13 than a guy who wasn’t selected in the top 60 of his draft class.

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
9:28 am

Some refreshing honesty from a head coach regarding his young PG:

Celtics coach Doc Rivers had a simple explanation for why the franchise chose Rondo over a more established point guard.

“We were out of money,” Rivers said.

“That’s probably the first thing. The second thing was, we just liked him.”

O'Brien

June 3rd, 2010
9:54 am

AJ,

I read that this morning too. But it’s easier to be honest when you’re on top. If Rondo had turned out to be a bust, I don’t think Rivers would be making those comments. Ironically, wasn’t Rondo selected with one of the picks that Phoenix got (and traded to Boston) for JJ?

From the nypost;

“The Post has learned Thibodeau yesterday rejected a Hornets offer that has been on the table for almost a week. Sources also said Thibodeau, credited as Boston’s defensive mastermind, is almost guaranteed to wind up with the Bulls, whom he met with two summers ago but lost out to Vinny Del Negro.”

As for the coaching carousel, I think Tom Thibodeau is the domino that’s holding up the line. I think he is waiting to see if Doc is taking the year off or not. If Doc takes the year off, then I think Thibodea would be the Celtics HC.

If Doc stays in Boston, then Thibodeau goes to the Bulls, Monty Williams ends up in New Orleans, and Avery Johnson ends up with the Nets. As for the Hawks, it will be interesting to see if Sund takes all this time only to turn around and hire Dwayne Casey, who has been reported as the favorite all along.

doc

June 3rd, 2010
10:23 am

najeh, little of the inane seems to filter over here and why i comment more here than the other. ludicrous at times is how i see it.

plus i get to indulge in some of ray’s antics as well as his astute commentaries. if you havent read it go back and see one of his classics on the last blog. rofl stuff.

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
11:21 am

OB, I like that instead of claiming some sort of phenomenal ability to develop a raw talent or see the diamond in the coal, he essentially said that they had little choice but to go with Rondo due to financial issues. I think many GMs/coaches would more likely accept the credit rather than say that they are the benefactors of their environment (in this case, a lack of cap room).

I’m guessing that you all read the reports that Thibodeau struggles to make these kind of big decisions. Granted, choosing which job to take (which affects your family and potentially your long-term career) is a huge f’ing decision. But if I were a fan of a team considering Thibodeau, that would give me pause. But again, maybe he is comfortable making game decisions but struggles with bigger life decisions.

JC

June 3rd, 2010
11:47 am

Ok, so here’s a bit of math for you guys:

There are around 450 players in the league at any given time.

Seven players retired this past season

There are hundreds of players who are almost good enough to play in the NBA, go to the Summer League and training camp each year, some of which will get picked up for 10-day contracts or even season-long ones.

There are 60 draft slots

Not drawing any conclusions, but I wouldn’t be excited about this year’s draft unless I was the GM of the Bakersfield Jam.

Big Ray

June 3rd, 2010
12:33 pm

AJ ,

I think there is no reason to have pause about Thibodeau making a big decision like that. You already said it yourself: there is a world of a difference between making a decision that involves and ultimately affects your household, than making a decision on the job that you do for a living.

I know for me, it would be much harder and more involved to decide whether to stay where I am, or take my wife and two kids to another city for the sake of taking another job with another LE Agency. What about where the kids are going to go to school? What about the cost of living in the new area? Will my wife be able to transfer jobs, or will she have to change professions?

Decision making on the job? Much easier. Sure, the decisions I make can and are still potentially life-altering decisions, but the variables are often well known.

Big Ray

June 3rd, 2010
12:38 pm

That, and you really have to scout the job you’re being offered. I don’t blame Thibodeau for getting cold feet about New Orleans. The ownership situation is not settled, for one thing. Maybe the setup doesn’t look right to him. What if his philosophies don’t match up well at all with GM Jeff Bower’s? Lots to consider here…

O’brien ,

I wouldn’t be too let down if Sund went with Casey. Is it feasible to think that instead of him going through the motions “just to settle on Casey”, Sund might be seeing if there is anybody else out there that he likes MORE than Casey, or that he thinks is better for this team? Can we be sure that the job is Casey’s to lose? I wouldn’t assume that, and our only idea behind this in the first place is that the media reported as such. It’s in print, but it’s speculation, not fact.

I could be reaching here, but something tells me if Sund wanted Casey and wasn’t really interested in anybody else, then Casey would be here already. Philly did that with Doug Collins…

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
1:10 pm

Ray, here’s the part that would give me pause… the notion that people closest to him aren’t surprised by this indecision. I mean, how many comparable decisions have they seen him waffle on? Seemingly, this is the first time that he has actually been close enough to a top position that he can pick and choose. Reports indicate that he was turned down in his previous attempts to land the big chair. So what else have they seen him struggle to decide? Can we assume they were smaller decisions than taking a head coaching job with one of several NBA teams? I think so. So what is this pattern of behavior based on if not head coaching opportunities?

Again, it would give me pause. Maybe because I have met too many people who struggle to make decisions from the driver’s seat but are legendary at offering up opinions from the back seat. In his current role, he has a big ‘ole safety net in Doc, who ultimately is accountable for the team’s success. If the Celtics defense collapses during The Finals, who will be placed on the hot seat by the Boston and national media? Certainly not Thibodeau. I can’t imagine that facing the NJ or Chicago media is easier than the NOLA media. But he can obviously grow if he does in fact have that as a personal opportunity. Still, I’d rather have our next head coach actively choose the Hawks than to have him drop into our laps because other teams grow tired of waiting for him to make a decision.

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
1:14 pm

Didn’t MC report that Gearon was out of town for a few days? I know that Sund gets to make the decision, but it’s not as if he is going to make the announcement and hold a press conference without the team’s NBA Governor. So maybe he is both doing some more interviewing and/or waiting for Gearon to return.

Or, he could be waiting until after the Finals to have a chance to speak with Doc or Phil Jackson about the Hawks vacant position. Hello? Is this thing on? :8O:

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
1:14 pm

O'Brien

June 3rd, 2010
1:16 pm

AJ,

I really think part of his ‘decision taking time’ is to stall in an effort to see what Doc Rivers does.

They say he prefers Chicago. And if so, I dont blame him. Bulls have cap room to add a max player (LeBron or JJ, maybe). N.O., on the other hand, is over the cap. Plus Chicago playing in the East has a better playoff chance compared to a team in the West.

Ray,

If there was anybody else out there, Rick Sund would have been aware of them and doing his research and interviews already. As far as we know, the guys who have been interviewed are Avery Johnson (2 or 3 times), Casey (twice), and the other Blazer assistant (interviewed over the phone).

There has been mention of Ty Corbin, Dan Majerle and Larry Drew, but its been really quiet on the coaching front. I guess the impatient fan in me just wants RIck to make a hire soon.

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
1:24 pm

OB, and supposedly Mark Jackson was interviewed. I could see Thibodeau hoping to land the Celtics job if Doc leaves (and maybe, they have already had that discussion behind the scenes). If he wanted the Bulls gig, he should have just forced the Bulls to make an offer. It seems to me that other than the Celtics gig (which is not officially available), he could have likely influenced the timeline of the truly available openings.

So I retract the previous comment, because if he is holding out to stay in Boston (but obviously needs to wait for Doc), then that makes perfect sense. But if he is waffling on the jobs that are currently open (and have been open for a few weeks), then that would be worrisome if I were a fan of that team.

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
1:29 pm

Lakers in 7. And Ron Artest turns Paul Pierce into Paula Pierce.

Melvin

June 3rd, 2010
2:07 pm

Astro,

Why should Thibodeau rush to make a decision when he’s holding all the triumph cards? Either he could stay where he’s and be comfortable (or a promotion) or he could hand pick his job. Besides, his current teams is about to start playing in the Finals so maybe he want to focus on the his job at hand….

Oh Yeah, Celtics will be the Champs again….

JoJo the Godfather

June 3rd, 2010
2:08 pm

Boston in 5. And Paul Pierce turns Ron Artest into Ronda Artest.

Big Ray

June 3rd, 2010
2:13 pm

AJ ,

I see your points, but I’m assuming nothing. Does his indecisiveness have ANYTHING to do with coaching…at all? If it doesn’t, I’m not interested in further speculation. But that’s just me. Personally, I don’t care if he has trouble deciding whether or not to take a certain job or whatever. Well, with one exception: if he’s back and forth on whether or not to take a job with my team, that might make me wonder whether or not he really wants to coach my team.

At any rate, I’m not all fired up about the guy to begin with. And I doubt he’s coming here.

O’brien ,

You have the same disease I have: impatience. Beyond that, we have no info on what Sund might be thinking, what factors are in the way of hiring whom, who he wants the most, etc. And he’s been a pretty good poker player about the whole thing. And, as AJ has noted, Gearon is away on business this week, so likely nothing gets done until next week. Dang it…

Melvin

June 3rd, 2010
3:29 pm

Oh my goodness. I don’t think I can take much more of MC blog today. Someone posted a S&T for Dirk without giving Joe,Josh,AL or Jamal…. Damn, Bibby, Marvin and ZaZa must have more value than we thought.

Marcus

June 3rd, 2010
3:34 pm

Big Ray

June 3rd, 2010
4:11 pm

Lakers in 7. And Ron Artest turns Paul Pierce into Paula Pierce.

VS.

Boston in 5. And Paul Pierce turns Ron Artest into Ronda Artest.

:lol: :lol:

Good stuff, guys…

i_am_soulstar

June 3rd, 2010
4:33 pm

Ray,

Any word on our guy Sergiy Gladyr possibly participating in summer league this year?

Big Ray

June 3rd, 2010
5:52 pm

I am soulstar

No word lately. I think the Hawks want him to remain overseas for another year of “seasoning” before he comes here, but I don’t know for certain. I see no harm in inviting him to summer league, though. Can’t hurt a bit, I’d think…

O'Brien

June 3rd, 2010
5:56 pm

Big Ray,

If Cenk Ayol or Gladyr can become contributors for the Hawks, that would be awesome. Because second round picks dont usually turn into much.

MC’s blog implied that the Hawks have serious interest in Avery Johnson. If they do, then why not go ahead and offer him the job already (behind closed doors of course. that way if he turns it down, no PR damage).

vava74

June 3rd, 2010
8:14 pm

The Hawks are experts in seasoning european prospects: they remain here until they get sour! :-)

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
8:53 pm

What you talkin’ ’bout vava (tribute to Gary Coleman)? Isn’t Josh Childress one of the best players in Europe… we trained him pretty well to excel in Eurpoe. :twisted:

Melvin

June 3rd, 2010
9:47 pm

Maybe Sund is waiting to see what Doc is going to do before make his choice.

Astro Joe

June 3rd, 2010
11:05 pm

Thibodeau better go ahead and accept a head coaching position before the Lakers make folk start wondering about his much-hyped defensive schemes.

Melvin, I think Sund is waiting to see what Phil is going to do.

doc

June 4th, 2010
12:41 am

aj you beat me to it. ;-) had the same thought as the celts got drummed on like ringo starr. his own rising star might start to flame out if he isnt careful.

vava74

June 4th, 2010
2:41 am

Astro, doc,

The Celts are physically over matched in these series with Garnett being just a shadow of the player he was 2 years ago.

Add Kobe to the equasion and you’ll find out that there is no Thibodeau in the world that can disguise that.

vava74

June 4th, 2010
6:27 am

I am defending on the other blog the idea that on a different year and in a less deep draft (in particular one with less quality prospects for the PG position) than last year’s, Teague could have been easily selected #8 or even as high as #5.

Anyone else wants to bash me for this thought? I know that this is an off-topic, but the Lakers-Celtics finals are not really within context either.

O'Brien

June 4th, 2010
7:02 am

AJ, doc,

I dont think anybody is going to blame Thibodeau entirely for this loss. As the D-coordinator, he is responsible for the game plan, but just watching the game, it looked to me like players did not execute. Plus his body of work is still top notch.

Conspiracy theory: The Hawks had a chance to get Doc Rivers (when they signed Woody), but allegedly, his price tag was too high, so they passed on him. Maybe Doc thought ownership was being cheap, and he is holding it against them, so his opinion to Thibodeau to pass on the Hawks job, especially since he has other offers.

vava,

I disagree. Even in another (less deep) draft, I think the best Teague could hope for would be the bottom of the lottery (#10 – 14).