Hawks face ailing Raptors as time runs out

Watching the desperate Chicago Bulls defeat the Cavaliers with Lebron on the bench, I had to wonder if maybe it’s a matter of pressure. The Bulls are trying to make the playoffs. The Hawks are trying to gain the third seed in the playoffs. The Bulls are talking about doing everything they can to stay locked in and get the win. The Hawks are talking about not knowing what went wrong. Surely, it’s the difference in pressure, right?

 

Final Four

This is it. Toronto at home. Visits to Washington and then Milwaukee. The finale at home against Cleveland, who will be playing with Lebron, no doubt. Apparently Mike Brown is scared to deatht that his superstar player will catch whatever Chris Bosh has, and I don’t blame him. After stumbling last year, the Cavs are determined to win it all this time around. So, they’ll sit Lebron, but they will still be very dangerous. How motivated are the Hawks in their final four games? Do they still want that third place seed, or have they given up? Most of us probably did not expect the Celtics to fade down the stretch, and they haven’t. At least, not as much as the Hawks have. The race for the third seed is not over yet, but it’s nearly done.

Joe, Playoffs, and Other Concerns

How much longer is Joe Johnson going to be out, and what is the extent of his injury? Maybe it’s too late for the Hawks to be trying to figure out how to win without Joe (at least in the soon-to-be-over regular season), and just worry about preparing for the playoffs. The biggest concern at this point has to be how healthy Joe will be for the playoffs. Make no mistake, he is needed at 100%, or the team could be looking at a similar, or perhaps worse result than last postseason. Here are a few reasons why:

_ This will be Jamal Crawford’s first time in the postseason since he began his NBA career 10 years ago. There is no substitute for postseason experience. Just ask Cleveland Cavaliers point guard Mo Williams, who had more then Crawford has, having played 5 games in the playoff for Milwaukee in 2005-2006. Williams was fine all regular season long, averaging nearly 18ppg and 4 apg, as the Cavs won a stunning 66 games in 2008-2009. Then the big, hot lights came on, and things came just a bit unglued for the Cavs’ #2 scoring option. His shooting percentage sank nearly 7% (down to 40% overall) and his scoring dipped, although his assists remained about the same. More than once it was mentioned that LBJ’s running partner wasn’t everything he needed. Will Crawford be a steady hand in the playoffs and provide that second best scoring punch, or will he fade into bad shot selection, high turnovers, and horrid defense?

_ Josh Smith has grown into a legit scoring option in post-ups and drives to the basket. However, he is still struggling mightily with his free throws, and there does not seem to be any relief in sight. In the playoffs, he will find his lanes cut off at times, or teams will simply foul him and dare him to score at the charity stripe. Smith has had some good games at the line, but they have been too far and few between. In the meantime, a few misses seems to encourage him to settle for the mid-to-long range jumpers that teams love for him to take, and everybody else dreads seeing.

_ This could be Bibby’s last truly decent days. The Hawks starting point guard isn’t walking around on crutches, and his shot is as sweet as ever…when he’s making it, that is. Bibby is still dangerous from 3 point land (38.5%) if he can get a clear look at the basket and shoot in somewhat of a rhythm. But his minutes (27.5), defense, overall scoring (9.1 ppg), and assists (3.9) are all on the decline. While it’s easy to blame that on the minutes, there is also the lack of aggression  that is becoming more evident every day, and may explain what would otherwise be a brilliant assist-to-turnover ratio. Take also into account that when Bibby is not playing, most likely Jamal Crawford is. Still, Bibby is a polarizing presence on the offensive end of the floor, where he is more apt to keep the ball movement going than anybody else is. Are we feeling better about this, or worse?

_ Al Horford is becoming a better scoring option than even Mike Woodson anticipated, I think. With his ability to consistently step out and hit the 15 to 18 foot jump shot, and a willingness to work hard in the paint, the Hawks would be well served to keep going to him. His free throw shooting (78%) is nothing to sniff at, and he has begun to recognize how to attack different defenders. Horford has shown that he can attack quickly against slower defenders, powerfully against smaller/weaker defenders, and punish bigger ones from the perimeter. He won’t be  the scoring threat that Johnson and Crawford present, but going to him as a possible third option is worth more than just a try. At the same time, the second round of the playoffs will be a serious learning and gauging tool, as Horford is liable to face Cleveland’s 4-deep big man front, or Orlando’s Dwight Howard. Either will be a challenge that the young all-star center cannot overcome on his own. Thinking with a “glass is half full” mindset however, Horford may show us more than just a few flashes of the player and leader he is becoming.

_ What can the Hawks expect out of Marvin Williams? What does he expect out of himself? The fifth year forward has taken a step back this season, and the one thing that he could be counted on before (consistency) is the one thing he can’t seem to remember how to be. Instead of finally finding his niche, Williams has struggled mightily to do that or fill a role in some games, then flashed brilliant supporting performances in others. As much as we may foolishly lament his not morphing into a 18-20 point per game scorer, oh how we miss what he used to be: a steady 14 points and 6 rebounds per game guy who could play some pretty steady defense when needed. As it is, expecting Marvin to suddenly jump up and provide yet another steady/credible scoring threat to the mixed bag, is likely little more than a pipe dream. In fact, we might expect more of an explosion out of Maurice Evans, who seems to be playing on a different level lately.

 

HAWKS VS. RAPTORS

Chris Bosh is lost for the season now, so he won’t be on hand for the struggling Raptors, as they limp into Philips Arena. Perfect time for an easy victory, right? Well, if it wasn’t a home game, I wouldn’t even think twice about Bosh not being there, what with the way the Hawks have been playing against less successful teams.

Hedo Turkoglu might also be missing, as he is day to day after a recent collision with another player. He will travel with the team, so there is the chance that he will play, but you never know. At any rate, it doesn’t matter, as the Hawks need not be thinking about who will and won’t play. They need only be thinking about how to beat the opponent they are facing, and doing it in convincing action. In fact, maybe holding Joe out for another game is a good idea. What do you think?

Matchup Thoughts

This would be a good time for Mike Bibby to try and get back into a good groove at the series of miscues at the end of the Detroit game. Bibby is a “bounce back” type of player anyway, so this probably won’t be an issue with him. That, and he has played pretty well against Toronto for the most part, in recent years.

The Raptors simply cannot handle Al Horford. Likewise, they won’t be able to do much with Josh Smith if he’s on his game. Both guys should get a lot of looks and a good tuneup, especially if Joe isn’t playing. Jamal Crawford and much of the bench should see some decent time as well.

On the other hand, Toronto has to be trying to hang onto their very tenuous playoff spot. Coming off a three game losing streak and having lost their best player to injury, the Raptors could be coming with some unexpected fire. How to avoid embarassment (or an unnecessarily close game)?

- Don’t let Andrea Bargnani get hot from deep or score inside with easy dunks and layups.

- Jose Calderon has been underwhelming this year. Let’s not change that.

- Don’t allow Demar DeRozan to make play after play. The rookie is quick and athletic.

- Jarrett Jack, who may not be at full strength, is a tough cookie. Allowing him to have a good game is trouble, as he will alternate efficiently between scoring (48% shooting this season) and involving his teammates ( 5 apg).

Should be an easy game for the Hawks, particularly at home. Win #50. Let’s go get it!

184 comments Add your comment

vava74

April 9th, 2010
9:21 pm

I guess I spoke too soon. during this shift he has been horrendous…

Big Ray

April 9th, 2010
9:21 pm

Smith giving the effort. Don’t know what is up with Horford. He should be man-handling the Raps.

Big Ray

April 9th, 2010
9:23 pm

I think this is Amir’s third team already in his young career. He could use some consistent coaching, but he also has to work on his own game. Kid’s got potential.

Then again, maybe it’s that unrealized potential that has gotten his butt traded a couple/few times.

Melvin

April 9th, 2010
9:23 pm

Calderon are abusing the Hawks on the switching def…

richbrave

April 9th, 2010
9:23 pm

DRMaryB:

Was on my way to a double-header in TABB, VIRGINIA (close to ALLEN IVERSON’s childhood haunts) when you hit me back. Saw my High School freshman grandson take out the opposition with a double and go yard. In five games, he’s batting .667(6-9) 1 home run, 2 doubles, has seven runs batted in, 15 runs scored, 14 base on balls, and 2 strikeouts. In centerfield, he’s errorless with ten put outs and two assists. I’m been blogging over on BRAVES baseball and up in D.C. with the REDSKINS and WIZARDS.

The WIZZIES wet themselves constantly. That franchise is “professional” in name only. What a frickin’ mess. Boy, it’s nice to see the HAWKS flyin’ high, and that my cyber lover is still on the beat. You go girl, and GO HAWKS.

Big Ray

April 9th, 2010
9:31 pm

A good pg always will, Melvin .

In the meantime, Hawks building on their lead…

richbrave

April 9th, 2010
9:34 pm

DrMaryB:

Health? Eating too much and no extra-curricular exercise.

As far as ARENAS is concerned, I heard a rumor about ATLANTA having some interest. His contract is an albatross around the WIZARDS neck, however. Four years at an average 20 million per. Just can’t move it, or I’m sure they would. I think the HAWKS wanted to have the WIZZIES pay part of his contract in exchange for moving him out of town. But the team’s on the block, and TED LEONSIS is already a 44% owner in the franchise and the PHONE BOOTH. IRENE POLLIN and her family are still wrangling over the details of a transfer of majority ownership to TEDDIE. And somehow I think LEONSIS and some of the ASG minority owners are tied in together. Don’t know if that’s really true or not. Just something I read here or elsewhere about six months ago. Anyway, the D.C. franchise will be worthless if the two keep waltzing around one another and don’t finalize this deal. They can’t sign any players now because of the pending sale, and they are running out of D-leaguers to recruit.

Big Ray

April 9th, 2010
9:45 pm

The thing I don’t like is that we’re letting Amir Johnson, Andrea Bargnani, and Sonny freakin’ Weems tee off on us. WTF…

Big Ray

April 9th, 2010
9:47 pm

Richbrave ,

I can’t see how the Hawks are interested in Arenas and his bloated contract unless they see Joe Johnson walking away from Atlanta and need a “star” attraction who is capable of 20 ppg. And with him and Jamal in the same backcourt (bye bye Bibby), we could count on 45 shots per night from the guards alone…

vava74

April 9th, 2010
9:47 pm

Ray, why are you surprised?

Melvin

April 9th, 2010
9:48 pm

Hawks could have put this game away several times but they kept letting the Raps go on a run…

Big Ray

April 9th, 2010
10:05 pm

Thankyou Hawks, for win #50!

richbrave

April 9th, 2010
10:06 pm

Hey RAY:

Something put up by a D.C. sportswriter or blogmeister a couple of months back unless I took it wrong. Would point you to the article, but I never considered it seriously.

vava74

April 9th, 2010
10:07 pm

Melvin, I think that the right word is “should” because it is obvious the they “couldn’t”

Big Ray

April 9th, 2010
10:07 pm

Vava,

Surprised at what? Nothing surprised me in this game, to be honest. Hate to see role players and ne’er-do-wells beating our hides off, but I’m glad for the win regardless.

JJ did rather well, as did Horford once he woke up. Same with Josh, and our bench (Jamal, Mo, Zaza) poured in some solid performances after a while.

I’ll take this win and the Boston loss.

Speaking of which, we need to go into Washington meaning business. These guys just dispatched the Celtics (which helped us). Easily.

richbrave

April 9th, 2010
10:08 pm

And it did have something to do with JOE JOHNSON if I remember correctly. But then the club fell apart like a house of cards, and the rumor just went away.

richbrave

April 9th, 2010
10:12 pm

WIZARDS are a powerhouse no doubt. LOL. So HAWKS check your baggage in the PHONE BOOTH locker room, and hit the court ready to play. These guys are hungry for next year’s paycheck, if not in D.C. then somewhere else. They will beat you if you give them a chance.

richbrave

April 9th, 2010
10:14 pm

FLIP SAUNDERS has re-made the offense recently. Haven’t seen the CELTS game due to my grandson’s baseball play, but they were effective tonight. SAUNDERS is the best coach the WIZARDS have had in the last ten years. IMHO of course.

Gwinnett Fred

April 9th, 2010
10:56 pm

Thanks for saying the hunt for 3rd is basically over.

“The race for the third seed is not over yet, but it’s nearly done” I believe was your exact quote.

Anyway a win and a gift from the Wiz and destiny is in our hands (again).

So Big Ray, while you are on such a roll with your predictions, please say we are doomed to be bounced in the first round. That way with your track record, we’ll be playing the Lakers here in another 6 weeks!!!

Go Hawks – Game 1 tickets in hand, just tell me when & where next weekend to be there!!!!!!

richbrave

April 9th, 2010
11:35 pm

So are the HAWKSTER’s giddy with 50? Who among us would have thunk it three seasons ago?

Gwinnett Fred

April 10th, 2010
12:11 am

I have to admit, I’ve been on the FIRE WOODY side of the ledger more than the other side – but the facts do speak for themselves – 5 straight years of more wins than the season before, and now 50 wins for only the ninth time in Atlanta history (as in 9 out of 42 years) and when they get to 51 Saturday night, it will be the 5th best record in Atlanta Hawks history!

rusty

April 10th, 2010
12:28 am

why does woody consistantly not play jc at the start of the 3rd quarter when he is lighting it up in the second is something wriiten down in stone that you cant

vava74

April 10th, 2010
7:42 pm

Teague’s passing timming is not bad at all.

He usually coughs up the ball quickly to the right spot.

vava74

April 10th, 2010
7:48 pm

And his defensive fundamentals are also pretty good.

He just needs more experience.

niremetal

April 10th, 2010
7:48 pm

Of course, his defense is still godawful. Yes, worse than Bibby’s.

vava74

April 10th, 2010
7:52 pm

Depends on the match up. Sometimes Bibby is unbeatably bad not even trying to get pass picks and instantly switching and generating a bad defensive possession 5 seconds into the shot clock….

vava74

April 10th, 2010
7:54 pm

Bibby is still looking for his kidneys after this one… E may have found Teague’s laying around too…

vava74

April 10th, 2010
8:02 pm

Nire,

who would you like to see coaching the Hawks next year?

Big Ray

April 10th, 2010
9:05 pm

Teague’s defense is bad.

Teague has had 9.5 mpg this season. Bibby has had about 11/12 years.

Where is Teague going to learn better defense? Joe Johnson is his only hope, as learning from Bibby or Crawford is an absolute joke.

At least Teague stays with/in front of his man unless he is screened…hard.

Big Ray

April 10th, 2010
9:06 pm

Vava,

Tough question. Haven’t been hearing any volunteered answers, though. Not any that actually make sense.

Big Ray

April 10th, 2010
9:21 pm

Hell yeah, I’ll take that road win!!

Great coaching by Woody, nice performances by our bench (Zaza, Crawford, Evans).

Solid play by JJ, and Horford played well down the last stretch of minutes.

Good job, Hawks!

niremetal

April 10th, 2010
9:33 pm

Vava/Ray,

Here’s my thing. When you’re a PG, it’s better to let your man go by you and trust your help defenders than it is to foul them, because guards typically shoot 80% or better from the line. Even if the other team isn’t in the penalty, it gives the other team a longer clock and brings your team closer to the penalty, which changes the defensive calculus for the worst for the rest of the quarter. The best perimeter defenders (Battier, Artest, Tayshaun, *shudder* Kobe) all have one thing and only one thing in common with regard to statistics – they rarely, rarely foul. Jeff Teague is worse than Crawford and Bibby because he is far too foul prone for a PG.

Now, obviously, the fact that you don’t foul much doesn’t mean you’re a GOOD defender. But if you do commit a lot of fouls, it’s pretty much a surefire sign that you’re a bad perimeter defender.

Bibby is the only one of those three who at least makes an effort to funnel his man towards the help when he’s about to get burned. It’s subtle, but he usually positions himself so that his man has to run towards either Smoove or Al. That being said, he gets burned so often that that’s small consolation.

Now could Teague become a very good perimeter defender? Yes. It’s possible. Most great perimeter defenders look the part from day one, but there’s plenty who don’t, and Teague certainly has the tools. Saying “who does he learn from” doesn’t do it for me, because most guys don’t have a player-mentor who “teaches” them like that. Anyway, I’m not nearly, nearly as high on JT0 as I was when I hyped up that nickname…

Vava,

I have a feeling Flip Saunders will be available at the end of the year. I’ve always thought he’d be a great fit here.

Astro Joe

April 11th, 2010
11:44 am

nire, I completely agree with your assessment on how a good defensive PG defends his position. It’s mostly about directing the opposing PG into help defense. And that requires both physical skills but mostly mental skills. You have to LNOW where the help defsne will be. Jameer Nelson is a decent defender and he funneled Derrick Rose directly into Dwight Howard who twice this year has put Rose out of the game with a hard foul. Sure, a great PG defender needs to stop dribble penetration and stay in front of his man, but that is plan A. Plan B must involve directing the guy into help. Teague will get there, but th enotion that Teague is a better defender this season is not entirely true. Teague may be able to do a little more of Plan A but he does straight to Plan C much too often… foul the guy.

I used to like Flip also until the rumor about Rasheed Wallace’s outbreak in Detroit. Something about Rasheed going off on Flip with no consequence. Some of the DC crowd even suggested that Flip too easily gave in to Blatche after a recent dust-up. I have no interest in a coach who may have rep as being soft. I don’t think our locker-room leadership is strong enough to endure a team who may perceive their coach as soft.

Remember my prediction from several weeks ago, Doc Rivers will likely be a free agent in July.

vava74

April 11th, 2010
12:40 pm

Nire,

Your reasoning on how perimeter defenders should behave (avoid fouling and funnel players to help defenders) is indeed correct. Your knowledge of the game is superior and it is a treat to “harvest knowledge” from you.

On Teague: JT0 sole problem – IMO – is lack of experience. He simply does not have enough minutes in his belt to be able to fine tune his ability to the level of the NBA.

That is evident when he miscalculates the speed of the defenders when he drives and gets his shots blocked or when he is forced to alter his tear drop shots beyond his usual mechanics AND that also happens when he fouls his man on defense.

He has ALL the tools to be an excellent perimeter defender: quick feet and lateral movement, quick hands, long and strong arms and good size for a PG.

All his shortcomings are directly connect to lack of playing time and a coach which is a confidence killer: there wasn’t a single time that Woody left JT0 on the floor after his first TO besides the game in which we were shorthanded.

On the coach:

I like Flip’s playbook and focus on organized team basketball however, I think he too likes to work with short rotations and coaches “scared” when the game is on the line.

vava74

April 11th, 2010
12:58 pm

Forgot to mention this:

Bibby’s ability (which also results from his experience) to funnel the opposing player to the help defender would be fine if we did not switch all the time and had our post players in the perimeter instead of in the paint blocking shots…

dr.maryb

April 11th, 2010
1:24 pm

Rich-Brave
(Lover Man)

Sounds like your Grand-Son is a Blue-Chipper! (Chipper Jones Jr?). Mmmmh. Maybe.
Glad you’re doing well.

I always liked Arenas. Looks like he pulled one silly prank too many, I didn’t know dude was banking 20 Mil$$/Year? Geez! But if JJ doesn’t re-sign (I doubt that tho!). He may be worth a hard look.
Like many teams, the Hawks could have drafted him, But , I think we took jamal Crawford with that pick & traded our rights to Indiana that night for Lord knows who? I forget who we ended up with – I think that Duke playerr ? Forget his name, but he was SOFT (like all Dukies), Lenny Wilkens was our coach then.

Blue-Ray
(Mega – Pixels)

I know you’ll be glad when that Grave-Yard Shift is over! We all know “The Freaks Come Out at Night! You be careful out there. But, what’s a GOON to a GOBLIN? (LOL)

I predicted you would be a BLOG EDITOR some day. Any thoughts of being a Beat Writer & Travel with the Hawks someday? Hey, why not? Why NOT you? What’s your feelings on Arenas in Atlanta for maybe…
(Marvin, Teague & Chills & Cash?). I personally like the Big PG. Maybe throw in a 1st round pick too.

We need talent infusion and another PROVEN playmaker to help Joe. More Bench Help too.
Like a Charles Oakley or Lambieer type – Nasty Dude to committ Flagrant Fouls!

I see that dude didn’t come back in the paint (McGee) last nite. Zsa was RUdE & didn’t bother to help that Punk to his feet either – No Apologies afterwards either! Play-offs Man – will suspend you though for that.

Peace & Love Guys!

niremetal

April 11th, 2010
1:52 pm

Vava,

Superior knowledge? Come on, man, flattery will get you nowhere ;)

I guess I haven’t noticed Flip coaching scared. I know he uses a slightly shorter-than-average rotation, but the big thing for me is that he adjusts his rotations on a game-to-game basis. He is a happy medium between Woody (rigid and inflexible with his rotations) and Doc (uses so many different rotations that chemistry sometimes suffers). He’s also a counterpuncher in strategy who reacts well to what the other team is doing in terms of pace and tactics. Lastly, his is not a 1-on-1 machine offense. There ain’t no such thing as a perfect coach, but I think Flip’s strengths complement the team well.

Astro,

I have a tough time blaming a coach for backing down from Sheed. Better than being kowtowed by Bibby, which we’ve all seen Woody do ;)

niremetal

April 11th, 2010
6:17 pm

Kobe bricks two free throws after a stupid foul by Webster, then commits a dumb foul on Webster (and Webster sinks all three FTs) to add insult to injury. Funny how people seem to forget that good as Kobe is, he is more of a volume scorer than an efficient one during the closing minutes of games:
http://www.82games.com/0910/CSORT11.HTM

Astro Joe

April 11th, 2010
8:39 pm

nire, as I recall, Bibby was suggesting a basketball strategy, Sheed was exploring a description of his coach. It’s one thing to say “your play-calling is idiotic” it’s quite another to say “coach, you’re an idiot”. One speaks to a person’s job skills, the other speaks to his character. Big f’ing difference.

Home losses to New Jersey and DC (that I am aware of). Y’all just remember my Doc Rivers prediction (and even the 2nd part about McHale replacing him).

Astro Joe

April 11th, 2010
9:12 pm

Does anyone know what year we get Houston’s 2nd round draft pick as part of the David Andersen trade? I have a feeling that it may be one of those “magical disappearing” draft picks (the real trade was for straight cash). I can’t seem to find any concrete info on when we actually get that pick (maybe when Tea Party members take off MLK Day and peform voluntary community service in poor urban areas).

vava74

April 12th, 2010
5:37 am

Nire,

Praise is due when it’s due. Regardless of how much i like reading your posts we still disagree on Woody taking out JJ against the Lakers.

I still think it was a good call since I believe that, the fact that a player is super hot – specially a perimeter guy – tends to result in a loss more frequently than a win since that will alienate the rest of the team – in particular the bigs.

As for Flip: his performance in the regular season and in the playoffs is quite different.

His rotations shorten, his play calling and adjustments diminishes in quality and ISO emerges (Rip during the playoffs stopped shooting out of screens and Billups jacked up bad shots with no ball rotation.

So, either he stops doing the right thing strategically or his loses control over his players easily.

I don’t remember his days in Minny since I had taken a break from watching bball back then but I am under the impression that he also choked in the playoffs then.

O'Brien

April 12th, 2010
7:53 am

When ‘Sheed was going off on Flip and Flip did nothing, maybe he was thinking about PJ Carlesimo and Sprewell, so he decided to leave Sheed alone.

I do think Flip let Blatche off too easy though, but I also wonder how much authority Flip really has in DC (compared to management and Arenas). If he gets fired, maybe Woody can hire him as an offensive coordinator.

AJ,

If Doc gets fired (as you predicted), do you think he would be a good fit for the Hawks?

I dont think we will ever see that 2nd round pick from Houston, because even if we do draft somebody, it will probably be a (young) international pick, who will stay overseas indefinitely.

Ray,

I no longer look at Marvin as a victim, but I think a change of scenery will do both him and the Hawks some good.

richbrave

April 12th, 2010
8:22 am

DRMaryB:

Shout out girl. Still doing that football thing?

Our grandson was called a “stud” by a pro scout we know who lives in TIDEWATER, VIRGINIA and came by the game to watch. He though the young man a senior, and asked him where he was going to college in the fall. He fell out when he found out he’s a freshman. I’m sending him to a TEXAS camp this summer to get him seen a bit.

Astro Joe

April 12th, 2010
8:52 am

OB, I think Woody returns with an extension. But if Sund chooses to go elsewhere, Doc Rivers will likely be outside of our price range (but I do expect that we wil flirt with him).

dr.maryb

April 12th, 2010
9:23 am

Richie-Bravo
(Lover Man)

What is your G-Son’s name. I will try and google him on the high school & College boards. Sounds like he may a FUTURE! He’s lucky to have You in his corner.

richbrave

April 12th, 2010
9:54 am

I better not my love. Cyber-space has all sorts as you know. I don’t know if he’s that well known yet anyway to be on a list. I make him sound grand, but he does have talent. Sent him to a UNIVERSITY of RICHMOND camp as a thirteen year old and they pulled him out of his age group and he won all the individual competitions with the seventeen year olds there. He’s had a serious football injury since though, so he’s now in center field instead of shortstop. Slowly regaining his lateral quickness.

vava74

April 12th, 2010
10:10 am

Looking into next season and the likely prospect that Woody is sacked, my only – but huge – concern is Sund’s track record hiring coaches…

Didn’t he hire Carlesimo, Hill and Weiss?

O'Brien

April 12th, 2010
10:10 am

AJ,

As long as the Hawks make it to the second round, I think Woody returns with an extension. Their quality of play in the second round is more likely to determine length and dollar value.

O'Brien

April 12th, 2010
10:19 am

vava,

“the likely prospect that Woody is sacked”. Why do you think thats likely?

The only way I see Woody being sacked is if the Hawks lose in the first round, or maybe get swept in the second round. But I think the Hawks will advance to the second round and win at least 1 game against Cleveland/Orlando.

I do share your concerns about Sund and his track record of hiring coaches though.

vava74

April 12th, 2010
10:26 am

OB,

IF we get to the second round, we will win – at most – 1 game and lose all away games – on average – for 15+ points.

Hence, Woody will not be with us next year.

I think Sund will only retain him if we win the first round at least 4-2 and lose against Cle 2-4.

Anything worse than that, he should go.