Hawks go for 50

Too bad Joe Johnson will be out for two games.

He will have to watch his Hawks hit that “magical” 50 win mark from the bench.  Or will he?

Atlanta travels to Charlotte on Tuesday, and then to Detroit the following day. The last time the Hawks were in either city, they lost. And that was not very long ago.  Subtract Joe Johnson, Atlanta’s best player and team captain, and you have a possible formula for failure. Forty-nine wins says that Atlanta is better than both Charlotte and Detroit, but are they better than both teams one the road, and without Joe?

The Race Continues

The Hawks are up by a game on the Celtics in the standings, a lead that will be tough to maintain, and is too close for any sort of comfort.  To finish the season out, it looks like the Celtics may have the easier time of it. Or do they? Below is what both teams have remaining on their regular season schedules.

 

Boston Celtics :  Knicks (away), Raptors (away), Wizards (home), Bucks (away), Bulls (away), Bucks (home).

Atlanta Hawks : Bobcats (away), Pistons (away), Raptors (home), Wizards (away), Bucks (away), Cavs (home).

 

The issue for the Hawks lies in the fact that both teams are playing four of their six remaining games on the road. At 24 wins and 13 losses, the Celtics are obviously a better road team than the Hawks, owners of a 17 and 20 record in their travels. In addition, the Celtics are playing against teams that they’ve hardly had any trouble with this season. The team that would give them the most hassle is the Milwaukee Bucks, who have just lost starting center Andrew Bynum for the season (and postseason).

This is what it has finally come down to. If the Hawks want the #3 seed, they are going to have to get it done on the road. They don’t have a choice, as there will be no time for “bounce back” wins at home, unless the Celtics falter down the stretch. Considering how they managed to dispatch Cleveland a night or two ago, I would not count on that happening.

So, back to the original question. Can the Hawks do this without Joe?

 

HAWKS VS BOBCATS

The focus remains on the absence of Joe Johnson, but what do the details tell us?

The fact is, Joe has shot poorly against Charlotte, and I’m willing to believe that this has more to do with the combination of  Larry Brown’s defensive schemes, and the defensive abilities of Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace, than anything else. As it is, when Joe is on the floor, he must be accounted for (read: guarded closely). So while one could argue that the Hawks have beaten the Bobcats two out of three times without a good performance from Joe Johnson, there is no denying that his presence alone means more opportunities for others.

At the same time, Joe hasn’t always been the facilitator you’d like to see him become when his shot isn’t falling, or he simply isn’t getting good looks. In one of the three contests against the ‘Cats, he racked up 8 assists. In the other two, his assist totals were nearly the same as his turnover totals. Will that matter in this game, since he won’t be playing?  Yes, because he won’t be there to provide a #1 offensive scoring threat, or make plays for others. Both jobs will fall to others.

Key players for the Hawks

One of those “others” that would seem to benefit from the attention that Joe gets is Jamal Crawford. Unfortunately, Jamal shot about as badly as Joe did in two out of three games against the ‘Cats. The Hawks will need for him to do much better this time. Only….he won’t have Joe as a decoy. It wasn’t a problem against Detroit yesterday, as Crawford lit up the Pistons for 29 points and 6 assists on 10-18 shooting. However, Detroit doesn’t present the defensive obstacle that Charlotte does. Can Jamal be Batman again, or is he Robin at heart?

Al Horford’s performance will also be pivotal (pun intended) in the next two games. While a solid double double (13 pts, 13 rbs on March 19th) is nothing to complain about, Horford has shown that he can do more (23 pts, 9rbs, 5 assists on January 22nd). He’ll also need help from his down-low tag team partner, Josh Smith. While just about everybody played badly in that first road game against Charlotte, Smith and Horford have been a thorn in the Bobcats’ side the last two times. They will be counted on even more, this time.

Early foul trouble would seem to be the only trouble Al Horford needs to steer clear of. Josh Smith is another story. With guards like Raymond Felton and DJ Augustin around, it would behoove Smith to minimize the number of times he gives in to the temptation to take the ball the length of the court after a defensive rebound. Also, the Bobcats play the passing lanes exceptionally well (another reason Joe Johnson didn’t get many assists against them in two out of three games), meaning that forced or sloppy passes are all but guaranteed turnovers.

One guy who has played pretty well against Charlotte is none other than the beleaguered Marvin Williams. In fact, the last contest against the Bobcats was one of Marvin’s best games all season, as he contributed an efficient 12 points, and collected a much-needed 14 rebounds. His efforts on the boards will likely be needed again, and he’ll get another chance to help pick up the slack in the scoring department. Will he step up his game when his team requires it, or will he have another “out of uniform” experience?

With Mo Evans being inserted into the starting lineup, the Hawks will have few options at the small forward position. Marvin will start, but Evans will probably still see significant time there, particularly if Marvin struggles or becomes inconsequential. Besides, Crawford will log the majority of the minutes at the shooting guard spot, possibly even if he is playing terribly. Which, if he does, will present a unique problem for Mike Woodson to try and figure out.

Where do Mike Bibby  fit into all of this? Well, after two straight subpart shooting performances from Bibby, the Hawks will need him to be on, if not hot. The only problem is….the Bobcats have owned Bibby this season. Not only has he been limited in his minutes against them, but his totals and averages (5-15 on field goals combined, 13 total points, 8 total assists) are downright deplorable. With Joe being out and Jamal basically taking on his role in the scoring department, there is no way to hide Mike Bibby this time around. Either he peforms adequately enough on the offensive end to offset what will likely be a deficient performance on the defensive end, or the Hawks will struggle mightily in the backcourt, and in the game.

Does Jeff Teague figure into this at all? What about Mario West? The Hawks only have three guards to work with outside of those two, and one of them (Mo Evans) will be seeing some time at small forward.

This will prove to be an interesting game, especially from a strategy standpoint. In the immortal words of Hawks fan and blogger MannyT, “WWWD (What Will Woody Do?)” One thing is for certain, however. No amount of strategy or tactical measure will be able to overcome a lack of effort, focus, or desire. If the Hawks want this, they will have to take it. The hard way.

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John Shellenberg

April 5th, 2010
10:04 pm

Bynum plays for the lakers not the bucks. Good call. FYI it’s andrew bogut that’s out for the season.

Jay

April 5th, 2010
11:11 pm

I feel obligated to point out that last season Crawford IN CHARLOTTE dropped 50 on the Bobcats so it will be interesting to see what happens .

Big Ray

April 5th, 2010
11:39 pm

John Shellenberg ,

Thanks for the correction, it was a typo that I noticed right after I hit “publish.” But yes, I do know who plays for whom. :) Funny thing is, Bynum’s situation isn’t too very far off from Bogut’s…

Jay ,

You have a point. Then again, the Warriors probably needed Jamal to score 50 last season. I’m hoping the Hawks won’t need him to score that much, but if we win because of it, I’ll be just as happy!

Melvin

April 5th, 2010
11:50 pm

Jamie Foxx believe in the Hawks. Do you Hawks fans?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOXbDnpn0o

O'Brien

April 6th, 2010
7:53 am

Charlotte has a lot of guards, so with no JJ, I look for Charlotte to take advantage of our switching. They took advantage of it the last game in ATL, and remember Felton made what would have been the game winning shot over Josh.

We saw their guards make shots over Horford too. So if the switching is not working, I hope Woody will adjust.

One reason Bibby struggles against these guys is because their guards are quick, so I expect Jeff Teague to get more PT.

Charlotte plays us tough. And I think Larry Brown will have a game plan to take advantage of the fact that we are without JJ. Plus we struggle on the road.

Looking at this game from an unbiased point of view, l I think the Hawks lose to Charlotte (by more than 10 points). However, as a Hawks fan, I think the Hawks will find a way to keep this game close and have a chance to win.

Let’s go Hawks.

i_am_soulstar

April 6th, 2010
8:37 am

Is Stephen Jackson playing anyone? I read somewhere that he was injured in the 4th quarter Saturday against the Bulls

i_am_soulstar

April 6th, 2010
8:51 am

westurd

April 6th, 2010
9:53 am

Does anyone know Woody personally? Could they please tell him “Duck Butt” sucks and its time to move Mo into the starting position……thanks

G-Money

April 6th, 2010
10:06 am

This is an opportunity for everyone to expand his game and focus in on closing out the regular season on a high note. At this point in the season it really comes down to effort and determination. Every game will be contested, because even the bottom feeders are looking to have whatever negative impact that they can on possible playoff implications.

Melvin

April 6th, 2010
10:17 am

OB,

No Joe and it’s a road game. Teague would be lucky if he break sweat in the warm up line. Woody normally do not like to play the Rook against playoff teams on the road. So I will be surprise to see if he gets extended mins tonight. Although I would like to see him get more playing time.

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vava74

April 6th, 2010
11:59 am

No JJ means that our rotation will be shorter.

8 men, maximum: Al, Josh, MW, Mo, Bibs + Craw, Zaza and JoeS (with Mario getting 1 or 2 minutes in specific moments).

If Mo brings his A game and his shot is on, I think he will be very effective and get us 14/18 points. He should be the first guy out, to be able to get in and relieve Marvin at the SF slot

This should be enough to off-set JJ’s absence, provided that Craw does not have a particularly bad game.

The rotation will be a bit bizarre, with Craw probably playing 38+ minutes, Mo 35/38 (since he will play the SG and SF slots) and Bibs playing 30/32.

IMO this would be a good game to use Mario for more minutes to contain their backcourt.

I don’t believe Woody will give any minutes to JT0.

We should look for Wallace to have another huge game against us which means that our chances of winning are mostly linked with our ability to finish with a rebounding superiority and keep him away from our rim.

niremetal

April 6th, 2010
12:13 pm

Vava,

Teague played 19.5, 8, and 9 minutes in the 3 games JJ has missed; Mo played 27, 34.5, and 26.5; and Crawford played 28.5, 36.5, and 35. You always seem to exaggerate a bit when it comes to Woody, but no minutes at all for Teague in a game where JJ sits out?? Come on, now…

That being said, I think this would be a great game to use Mario to harass Cap’n Jack and Felton. Also, considering that the Bobcats have basically no one who is a reliable perimeter shooter but always seem to outwork us on the boards, this would be a great game to at least vary our use of the switching defense.

doc

April 6th, 2010
12:15 pm

team seems to play well when jj is out for short periods. we can only hope this trend continues and certain guys step up like al and josh. bibby needs to make an impact as well, no excuses now. he has to be more than a quarterback that hands the ball off but has to become a playmaker in his own right. remember this might be the team that goes on the floor next year with minor additions knowing the asg propensity for holding costs down.

so, is this a preliminary look to next season?

vava74

April 6th, 2010
12:42 pm

nire,

Yes, I could be wrong, but Teague played against NJ, TOR and DET.

Only Toronto is playoff bound but can be regarded as a “soft” opponent which something which cannot be used to describe CHA when playing at home.

My view is that Woody will coach scared and use the personnel he trust: Bibs, Mo and Craw with extremely limited spot duty by West.

Marcus

April 6th, 2010
1:21 pm

Big Ray,
I think elevating to the No. 3 seed would show progression vs. last years seeding/season but we really have limited control on who we face in the 1st round. I say limited control (vs. no control) because, as you pointed out, 2 of our last 6 games are potential 1st round opponents and if we were to win or lose our game(s) vs. CHA or MIL, that could be the difference on where they end up being seeded.

We have shown vulnerabilities to all 3 teams who could end up in the 5-6-7 slots, as MIA, MIL, and CHA are separated by one-and-a-half games between them…so as much as we are in a dogfight for the 3 seed, they are in one as well, to see who draws the short straw to play ORL in the 1st round (7th seed) and who gets us or who gets BOS.

jloofatl

April 6th, 2010
1:36 pm

we have missed that the hawks beat charlotte twice this season all that statistic means nothing unless the hawks are committed to playing the best basketball they can. I believe even without Joe they can beat this team. We have to stay focus and the hawks will get out with a win with charlotte and detroit

O'Brien

April 6th, 2010
1:40 pm

Marcus,

Just as we have conversations about who we would want to face in the first round (my vote is Milwaukee), and who we would want in the second round (my vote is Orlando), I am sure those teams in the 5-6-7 are having those conversations too.

I wonder who the fans of those teams would want to face in the first round (Hawks or Boston)?

doc,

Even if we win these games w/o JJ, I hope its not a preliminary look to next season. If there is no JJ next year, then we will need another starting PG, because I would not want Bibby and Crawford on the court at the same time for 30 mpg.

That is a defensive disaster waiting to happen. And our switching would be less effective.

With JJ out, I think this is a good time to practice the strategy suggested by one of our bloggers. “Feed a big, get a win”. Hopefully Josh and Al wil be up to the challenge, because we need good games from them to alleviate the pressure on the backcourt.

Also, Woody will need to be more flexible with the switching defense.

I think Teague gets 4-8 minutes in the first half. However, he may not get any in the second half unless the game has already been determined. Woody will go with Crawford, Mo, Marvin, Josh, and Al/ZaZa in the second half.

Hopefully Teague plays well in the first half to help the team out, and this will make it easier for Woody to play him in the second.

Marcus

April 6th, 2010
2:05 pm

OB,
good point … I guess that is what i hoped to express in my last sentence.

Are we looked at as the easiest “mark” of the 1st round opponents? Looking at the series’ records this year, my guess is that fans of the Heat/Bucks/Bobcats probably *all *want a piece of us in the1st round instead of BOS or ORL … esp. if JJ has a damaged hand going into the post-season.

Melvin

April 6th, 2010
2:31 pm

“Feed a big, get a win”….

It may not be that easy against the Bobcats. They have good length in the paint with Ratliff, Chandler, Thomas, Diaw, Diop and Nazr.
Along with the athletic Wallace to crash the boards. Heck, between the quickness of Felton and the size of Jackson, who will Bibby guard? It’s going to be a fiesty game against those Cats…

niremetal

April 6th, 2010
4:38 pm

niremetal

April 6th, 2010
4:39 pm

In case you wondering:

4:38 = The Real niremetal
3:54 = Notsomuch

niremetal

April 6th, 2010
7:10 pm

No Bibby tonight. Teague-Evans-Marv-Smoove-Horford. It’ll be interesting to see where the points come from early.

I’m glad this is happening, though, assuming Bibby and JJ will be healthy come playoff time. This forces Woody to play some second unit guys with the first unit. The Hawks typically do better – at least for a few games – when Woody is forced to make adjustments. That’s maybe the most frustrating thing about Woody for me – he clearly CAN make good adjustments, but he never makes them until injuries force him to.

niremetal

April 6th, 2010
7:29 pm

Embarrassingly sloppy so far. Teague passes to no one, Horford throws it away twice (saved once by Wallace fumbling an easy steal), Marvin gets in the air and can’t decide whether to shoot or pass, and no one crashes the boards.

And Stephen Jackson just blocked 3 shots in 20 seconds. Geez.

niremetal

April 6th, 2010
7:32 pm

*Teague throws a pass to no one

niremetal

April 6th, 2010
9:11 pm

Well, that was lame. Marvin and Zaza were the only ones who played a semblance of defense but they didn’t give us a semblance of offense.

Melvin

April 6th, 2010
10:09 pm

Yes. Hawks caught a break tonight. Celtics lost to the Knicks….lol

vava74

April 7th, 2010
4:07 am

I didn’t watch the game this time but it seems pretty obvious that Teague’s performance in the first half is directly related to a lack of playing time.

And his performance in the second half is a token of his actual ability and potential.

The sorry thing is that tonight we will see Bibby starting with a limp and playing 30+ minutes, getting burned by Stuckey and Bynum.

vava74

April 7th, 2010
9:14 am

In the highlights I saw Mario playing SF opposite to Gerald Wallace… WTF???

It looked a total disaster…

Blake

April 7th, 2010
11:15 am

The Hawks are’nt going to do anything In the playoffs.They’re proving they can’t win on the road against lesser opponents.So why would they start winning on the road against elite opponents.It’s the same ole bull$#^+ !!!

doc

April 7th, 2010
3:30 pm

next year might be tough unless woody can coach em up or my boy rick comes in to save the day.

diaw had nice numbers, overpaid is he and marvin isnt. we already had a clone of marvin then when we drafted him.

teague second half is reflective of the fact carolna was coasting more than anything else until we see him in more than a mop up role. salim had better rook numbers mop up or not didnt he?

no more mario’s please, asg/sund.

O'Brien

April 7th, 2010
4:16 pm

doc,

Remind me again why Sund signed Othello and then Mario, instead of Stackhouse? Remind me again why Sund signed Marvin to the contract he did, but yet he considers Chills a utility player and does not rate him that high?

Although I am open to shopping Marvin, the problem is, his value is low right now, so we might not get much in return. Plus as nire points out, assuming there is a new CBA soon, Marvin’s contract will look even worse.

My suggestion is bring Chills back, and let him and Marvin compete for the starting position.

As for the Teague argument, what the second half showed me was that he needs more PT before we can decide how good he is, or how ready he is. His first half was bad, but like he said, when you are a rookie making your second start, he was timid.

And I would not put Salim and Teague in the same sentence. One big problem with Salim was he was not a good defender (Teague looks like he has the potential to play defense, and at the very least, not be a defensive liabiity).

Salim was a SG trapped in a PG’s body, and to make matters worse, Salim took a lot of bad shots, and he did not make the other players better. Teague shows flashes of being a one man fast break, and he is also able to get others involved (ZaZa and Joe Smith have missed a lot of good looks off passes from Teague).

Plus Teague seems to have a better attitude and appears more coachable than Salim was.

Ok Guys,

What are we expecting tonight? Will the Hawks come out flat again? Will our starters run out of gas in the fourth?

The Hawks have shown resiliency in coming back from tough losses, so I expect a win tonight. Woody will have them coached up at the start of the game, and I think Crawford has a big night, and our bigs will play better.

niremetal

April 7th, 2010
6:59 pm

I’m actually not sure why Sund went with Hunter/Rio instead of Stack either. It wasn’t to save money, because the team gets reimbursed for the difference if it signs a vet to a minimum contract instead of a young player. The only explanation I can think of is that they thought Hunter was going to develop quickly, that they wanted them as practice players, and/or that Stack was going to be a bad locker room guy.

Although I honestly doubt he’d get more than spot minutes most games (I know familiarity breeds contempt, but Evans is much better than Stack), but Stack would have been real nice to have for the games where Joe’s been out. And if the Hawks’ luck with injuries had not been as amazing as it has been this year, he would have been REAL nice to have.

vava74

April 7th, 2010
7:17 pm

Bill Simmons on Sheed:

http://m.espn.go.com/general/page2/story?w=19e3k&storyId=5063453&i=TOP&topslot=1

very entertaining as usual, however, he is fooling no one: as a die hard Celts fan he has written this as a desperate attempt to breathe some life into Sheed on time for the playoffs… Hope is the last thing to die…

vava74

April 7th, 2010
7:54 pm

Man… Bibby needs an ingrown toe nail all year long… Heck! Make it two he might become a second coming of Steve Nash!!!

vava74

April 7th, 2010
8:17 pm

Our defense sucks! Big time!

Big Ray

April 7th, 2010
8:54 pm

Nice to see Bibby come back as a polarizing presence.

Because we all know this team doesn’t practice any scenarios where Bibby and Joe aren’t playing, unless they’re hurt.

Big Ray

April 7th, 2010
8:56 pm

Our front line stiffened up in the latter half of the second quarter, as far as defense is concerned. Our perimeter players continue to yell “Ole!” to the guys they are supposed to be defending.

Big Ray

April 7th, 2010
8:59 pm

NEW YORK, April 7, 2010 – Joel Litvin, NBA President, League and Basketball Operations, issued the following statement regarding the final seconds of the Oklahoma City Thunder at Utah Jazz game last night at EnergySolutions Arena:

“On the final play of last night’s Oklahoma City-Utah game, the officials missed a foul committed by the Jazz’s C.J. Miles on the Thunder’s Kevin Durant during a three-point shot attempt.”

Translation:

“We realize Kevin Durant is one of the League’s superstars in the making, and we must begin to treat him as such. Meanwhile, we have reviewed all requests by the Hawks regarding multiple missed foul calls, shot clock malfunctions, and infractions against the Atlanta players and coaching staff, and found no conclusive evidence of it being anything but total BS. That is all.”

Big Ray

April 7th, 2010
9:03 pm

Pistons have figured out how to defend Josh when he gets the ball more than 10-12 feet out. Have a guard attack his dribble right when he is about to spin on his defender.

It works (because it’s nothing but Josh ISO), and then you get Josh taking a jumper next time down.

niremetal

April 7th, 2010
9:54 pm

Say what you will about JJ, but Jamal has no fracking clue what to do against a double team. He basically threw the ball away twice in 15 seconds 35 feet from the basket.

niremetal

April 7th, 2010
9:58 pm

An off-balance 3 pointer with 10 seconds left. Brilliant.

Blake

April 7th, 2010
10:05 pm

Well Atlanta is again proving my point by being in control in Detroit only to watch the lead fade away in the final minute’s of the fourth quarter.No way this team wins on the road in the playoffs.Pathetic as Hell !!!

vava74

April 7th, 2010
10:11 pm

Highly entertaining Hawks bball folks.

Those damn Pistons were not cooperating and following our lead!!

We were doing our best to choke and they simply were not cooperating and almost made us win the game!!!

Good grief!! What a lousy sparring partner for our choking show!!!

Blake

April 7th, 2010
10:12 pm

The Hawks may not win another game this season…dashing their hopes of winning 50 games…LOL!

Blake

April 7th, 2010
10:18 pm

Out of their last 4 games 2 are on the road and the last game is at home against Cleveland and Toronto is fighting for a playoff spot.

richbrave

April 8th, 2010
5:11 am

“hey richie, still not a believer until i see what chipper can do and glaus especially. glaus was loaded in his best years on roids if you look at pix of him in his hey day. chipper also plumped up in his big contract year i suspect but realized the potential for health harm and joining the use viagra before my time crowd and knew he was a great hitter in his own right. he did and had the type of career bonds would have had if he had stayed away from the roids himself. look forward to seeing what the real deal in right field does. really would have preferred they kept roachy on first.

anyway regards to you and sorry your richmond team got expelled before they could show themselves. was thinking about you when they lost. what is you impression of the braves at this point?”

Sorry doc, just saw your response. I’m getting depressed following the WIZARDS. Not sure you can call them a “professional” team at this point. If ownership isn’t ironed out soon, they might not have a franchise at all.

As for the BRAVES, I feel quite good. I do think GLAUS will be a difference-maker in the middle of the line-up. Never thought that way of LaROCHE. CHIP is off and running for 20 homers this season. I suspect his dedication to his craft will net him a decent year, say 21 HR’s, 80 RBI, and a .295 BA. Two games do not a season make, but so far so good on all fronts except LOWE, the MELK-man and NATE-dog. If one of those three comes around with a PRADO-type 2009 season, the BRAVES may well win the division pennant. PHILLY is improved and is going to be tough to beat out, but we’ve got 18 chances against them. I like our odds. The games in the division will decide the season per usual. If they can split, and take two of three from all the others they’ll be in. CHICAGO here a great start. Heres hoping for a sweep.

My oldest grandson is starting as a freshman on his local high school team. So far in three games, 3-5 with two doubles, EIGHT walks including being hit three times, one SO, three RBI, and nine runs scored. We’re in the basement yesterday talking and he says, “I think I should be playing leadoff” (he’s hitting third). I said, “don’t worry about it, although I agree. Thinking about the past creates fear, and worrying about the future breeds anxiety. Just stay in the moment, and keep doing what you’re doing.” I said, “one of JASON HEYWARD’s biggest attributes is his plate discipline. Guys who play short-stop and hit for power with lead-off discipline are rare in the majors. The zeros on the check just run off the edge.” “Keep going and it’ll be fine.”

Things are good here. Took my everlovin; out for her birthday yesterday. Told my son-in-law upon my return, “a true blessing in this life is being able to look at your wife with adoring eyes after 45 years.” Hope this journey goes well for you also.

vava74

April 8th, 2010
6:33 am

My “formal announcement” :-) :

I will no longer comment on any matter concerning this season. For me, it is pointless and it is as if the season already ended.

I will only comment on my hopes for next season.

For me there are two objectives for the off-season:

Re-sign JJ and hire a new coach.

My vote goes for Bill Laimbeer.

He was a member of the bad boys and just for that fact I think he could bring some necessary roughness to our play.

Also, his success in the WNBA is, in my opinion, a pretty decent indication that he knows his X and O’s since “team play” looks more important in the women’s league.

Obviously I don’t have enough data – maybe someone over here follows enough WNBA to tell me what they think with a more informed oppinion.

Moreover, since he has now had 1 year experience as an assistant means that he now knows the players and coaches around the league.

O'Brien

April 8th, 2010
9:14 am

vava,

Dont give up on these guys. because as bad as they have played since the all-star break, they can still find a way to turn it up in the playoffs.

The players (especially our veteran guards) share some blame for not executing, turning the ball over, and missing FT, and blowing defensive assignments. Bibby was bad in the second half, Crawford did not play well in the 4th, and Josh seemed out of it sometimes. Marvin and Al had good games though.

But this is a loss where Woody had a chance to make a positive impact on the game, and he didn’t.

Mike Bibby started 4-4, and then went 1-9 the rest of the way (if you take away the meaningless 3 pointer at the end of the game). He had a costly TO, his defense was bad as usual, and he only had 3 assists in 36 minutes (our starting Center had 6 assists).

But it was obvious that Bibby was tired. Woody himself said Bibby was laboring. So why play him 36 minutes? Why play Teague only 5 minutes (especially since Teague played well in the second half of the Bobcats game)? FYI, this is what we mean by Teague’s PT being inconsistent.

As vava pointed out, the lineup of Crawford, Mo, Marvin, Josh and Al, were playing well in the 4th, but what does Woody do? He brings Bibby back in. And that is where the game went south.

Bibby’s average against the Pistons for the first 3 matchups of the season is 8.3 pts, and 4.6 assists per game, so it’s not like he tears it up against the Pistons anyway.

Woody needs to realize that just because guys are veterans does not mean they don’t make mistakes.

Bad coaching from the coach, bad playing from the players. I’m just glad the season is only 82 games. Because at this rate, if it was 92 games, the Hawks might not finish 3rd/4th.