Re-evolution is best for Hawks, Joe Johnson

 

 

For probably just the second time in his NBA career, Joe Johnson finds himself at a crossroads. He has one year left on his current contract. His team is looking to make the jump from playoff-maker to contender. He is still looking for the respect due a person of his talents. Where does he go from here? Well, “where he goes” is not so much about next summer as it is about the season that starts in 15 days.

Now I know what you might be thinking. This is all just going to be more noise about Joe not signing the contract extension offered by the Hawks. I assure you it’s not. If you ask me, that is only part of why he is at a crossroads, and it is not even the driving reason behind it all. Without exacerbating the point, we’ve seen all of this before with other teams and players. No, this is about something else. Something I like to call re-evolution. It’s sort of like “coming full circle.” Players get into the league and if all goes well, they evolve to the point of where they become the best they are going to be. Sometimes they then evolve further into something else, play a different role, man a different position. Usually it’s because it’s necessary. Because that’s the best that can be done. But if things work out right, they get to “re-evolve” into that player they were, when they were at their most efficient, effective, and comfortable. Perhaps Joe is about to reach that point. And Perhaps that is exactly where the Hawks need him to be.

If you ask people when Joe Johnson had his best season, many will undoubtedly say the 2006-2007 season. You know, the one in which he averaged 25 points, 4.2 rebounds, 4.4 assists, and shot 47% overall from the field, and 38% from 3-point land. Hard to argue that point, as those are not just all-star numbers, those are the kinds of numbers very few in the NBA can put up, including some guys who are considered more exciting or more potent players. No doubt about it, that was the one true bright spot in a season that saw the Hawks limp their way to 30 wins.

But I’m not entirely convinced that was his best year. Recall the year before he came here, and you will see what I mean. Rewind your mind to 2005. The Phoenix Suns had just finished the regular season with a franchise-best 62 wins. They embarked on a journey through the playoffs that saw them destroy their first two opponents, only to get dropped 4 games to 1 by the implaccable San Antonio Spurs in the Western Finals. You go back and read the articles from ESPN and many others. All of them talk about how the Suns might have or would have knocked off the Spurs…if only Joe had not missed the first two games of that series. Fast forward to that summer, when Joe told the Phoenix front office that he didn’t want to be in Phoenix anymore. He wanted to go to Atlanta, and he wasn’t taking “no” for an answer. You read the articles that talk about how the Suns just won’t be the same without this incredibly talented 24 year old shooting guard from Arkansas. You look at the stats, and you see why, but not at first. 17 points per game. Okay, how does that compare to 25, you say? 5.1 rebounds, 3.5 assists….and only 1.8 turnovers per game. Okay, you say. That sounds like typical Joe, but fewer turnovers than we’re used to seeing. Even the 39.5 minutes per game sounds like typical Joe. So what, you say.

Then you begin to see it. The 48% from beyond the arc, with 46% from the field overall. And the playoff games that season? Guys’ averages usually go down a bit. Only the real warriors raise their games. Joe went into the postseason that year and shot a mind-numbing 56% from 3-point range, and 50% overall, while raising his scoring to nearly 19 points per game. On top of that, he maintained an average of 4.3 rebounds, 3.3 assists, and lowered his already anemic turnovers to 1.1 a game.

There it is. Everything the pundits and the experts talked about. Here was a guy doing this on a team where he wasn’t the primary ball-handler. Wasn’t the top scorer. Wasn’t the first or even second option on offense. THIS was what got him an offer of $70 million. THIS was what made Atlanta hand over the car keys, the living room suite, and the kitchen sink without blinking, when Phoenix demanded it.  THIS was “the one.” THIS was a good reason to “go for broke.” And now here the Hawks are, having climbed out of the NBA basement. Here the Hawks are, demanding respect and getting it from opposing teams. Here the Hawks are, looking to name themselves not just winners, but contenders. And here Joe is, aspiring to join the ranks of the elite.

But is that what Joe needs now? Is that what the Hawks need now? Will his becoming an “elite” player (whatever that is supposed to mean, exactly) help take the Hawks to the next level? Joe’s departure from Phoenix was a revolution. One for him, and certainly one for the Hawks. Will this season, and the following summer be another revolution? Perhaps the time of revolution is past, and the time of re-evolution is at hand. Many pundits have maintained that the Hawks lack identity and leadership. That has needed to change, and it IS changing. The Hawks are forming an identity. Some would contend that after a 47 win season and a successful first round playoff series, they have already formed their identity. I don’t think so. Not yet is the transformation complete. They Hawks are still finding out who and what they are. Young players are still climbing towards their ceilings, finding and filling their roles, and solidifying their places in the League. The evolution is still in process.

So much of this hangs on Joe, and yet….so much of it does not. Should not. Guys like Marvin Williams, Al Horford, and Josh Smith are still coming into their own.  At the age of 23, all three should be, or already are on the cusp of hitting that spot that Joe was in, before he broke out in ’04-’05. Look at his ‘03-’04 stats, and you will see what I mean about hitting that stride, as it were.   Strange, isn’t it? He has to be looking at them right now (Marvin, Al, Josh) with a strong sense of Deja Vu.

Now don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying Joe should go back to being a third option on offense. He’s still the best scorer we have right now. Nor am I suggesting that he lower his scoring average by 8 points. But wouldn’t it be better to throw off that oh-so-heavy cape? Wouldn’t it be nice to go back to being a pivotal guy on a talented, cohesive team, rather than a “savior”  on a floundering ship? Wouldn’t it be great to go back to being Joe? A guy who could do anything, but didn’t have to do everything.

To be fair, Joe had a lot more help back there in Phoenix. He had an all-star point guard. He had two guys in the frontcourt who were as talented as any in the league, if not moreso on most occasions. When he first got to Atlanta, he didn’t have that. He became the leading scorer, and later on, the leader. He learned that the two are not synonymous (somebody should have told Ben Gordon’s agent that, and Detroit will find out soon enough). He also learned that having to do everything is not as much fun as it’s been advertised. But those times should be past now. His teammates should be ready now. Would we like to see another 25 ppg season from Joe? Of course we would. But we don’t want to see him do that because he has to for us to win, or to gain some new status in the NBA. Rather, because he can. Not because nobody else can provide the scoring, but because others’ ability and production allow him to do so more easily, and more efficiently.

The Hawks should no longer need the Joe from ‘06-’07. They need the Joe from ‘04-’05. THAT Joe isn’t tired. THAT Joe wins games on a regular basis. THAT Joe performs even better in the playoffs than he does in the regular season. THAT Joe is the leader of the revolution….by way of re-evolution.

So what do you think? Is the pursuit of elite status what will help Joe and the Hawks the most? Should he share the load he was originally tasked with? What kind of team do you see the Hawks evolving into?

 

 

 

 

98 comments Add your comment

Big Ray

October 12th, 2009
5:37 pm

tbhawksfan ,

Uh, if you choose to interpret it that way…..

Ariose ,

Ah, wait a minute. I did not say I wanted Josh to go to the bench. Never have said that, though I can recall somebody suggesting that to me at one point in time….

And really, is it firmly established that Horford is a center only? Some still suggest that he’s better suited to PF. No, I think there are other possibilities, but they aren’t fully developed yet, and may never develop for all we know.

I’ll say this, though: I don’t see any of the three (Kaman, Horford, Smith) as bench players. Read what you will into that.

MannyT ,

Very compelling points. Especially the link between Woody and JJ.

Doc ,

Couldn’t find the post you said disappeared. Wonder what happened?

niremetal

October 12th, 2009
5:50 pm

Ray,

Again, if JJ’s natural proclivity was to be a ballhog (which is what is implied when you say JJ only distributes when “forced” to), it’s tough to square that with his time in Phoenix. The point is that when the people around him are as good or better at scoring relative to him, he passes more. In Phoenix, that was because he was surrounded by All-Star caliber offensive players – and despite the fact that he was probably a better pure scorer than Marion and Nash, he was more than willing to defer to them. Last year, when he was slowed down by his foot and he wasn’t as effective a scorer, he did the same thing – at that point, his teammates were as effective at scoring as he was, so he gave up the ball more. If you check back to 05-06, he had a similar month where he was very cold shooting (37%), so he passed more (9.3apg) and shot significantly less (less than 16 FGAs/gm). (He didn’t take that mentality when he struggled in the middle of 07-08, and I criticized him then for that, if you’ll recall.)

In any case, JJ’s mentality last year seems to me to be what you WANT your leading scorer to do – score when he’s hot, pass when he’s not. And of course, it’s Woody’s job to design an offense that maximizes the team’s ability to get itself in the best position to score regardless of whether JJ is hot or not. That’s why ISO JJ is a stupid play to run as incessantly as the Hawks do – it doesn’t put the team in a good position to score when JJ isn’t in top shape.

doc

October 12th, 2009
6:45 pm

i think it was server stuff ray and i couldnt retreive it

Melvin

October 12th, 2009
7:13 pm

Ariose and Doc,
I posted the link below on several different blogs for yall.

Melvin

October 11th, 2009
9:51 pm
Doc and Ariose,

I posted the link below on Sekou blog a couple days ago. I didn’t get a response form either of you. I thought you all would enjoyed ZaZa new summer workout to increase his vertical leap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDrhQj_AHu4

kirkinga

October 12th, 2009
7:42 pm

i think it was server stuff ray and i couldnt retreive it

doc, may I humbly suggest using the Firefox browser with the Lazarus add-on. You will never lose another comment as it saves them all while using very little resources. It saves comments as well as text from any form.

niremetal

October 12th, 2009
7:56 pm

I gave up on Firefox…it runs incredibly slowly sometimes when I have multiple tabs and/or windows open. Chrome seems to run much faster, but it doesn’t have as many add-ons available.

Big Ray

October 12th, 2009
9:08 pm

Kirk! ,

Where have you been? Well, besides following the rollercoaster known as the Braves. :)

Nire ,

“Those who constantly defend Woody’s every move were also very quick to mention how well he coached and managed minutes when key players were injured. The feeling was that he only did this when forced to.”

This is referring to Woody, not Joe.

Is that what it takes for Joe to trust his teammates? Does he have to be injured and not scoring as easily?

Actually, I think JJ’s critics could have a field day with that, making any die-hard JJ fanatic wishing that little “fact” WAS conveniently forgotten.

This was a couple of rhetorical questions to help illustrate how YOUR comment could be taken or seen as a source of criticism, rather than the defensive tactic that it was meant to be.

And this:

Now where’s my asbestos suit? I’m sure to get flammed for that one

….was because I had the oddest feeling that you might miss my actual point. Go figure… :lol:

niremetal

October 12th, 2009
9:34 pm

Come on, Ray. You stopped before the key lines that I was responding to:

The feeling was that [Woody] only did this when forced to. Is that what it takes for Joe to trust his teammates? Does he have to be injured and not scoring as easily?

Fair enough on you not explicitly aligning yourself with the JJ critics. In any case, I hope my faith in JJ will be vindicated in the coming season.

Big Ray

October 12th, 2009
9:34 pm

Preseason or no, I’m really diggin’ Jeff Teague. Kid knows how to get to the hole, and knows how to get to the line (and what to do once he gets there). And his assist to turnover ratio currently sits at 2.67 to 1.

He won’t get this many minutes during the season, but if he’s playing like this in the minutes he DOES get, he will be a significant contributor.

Melvin

October 12th, 2009
9:47 pm

Ray,

Teague has been putting in work this preseason. Seem like most analyst who have seen him play was impress. There’s been a lot comments about his speed. I watch him play a few times at WF and didn’t realize how quick he was. I’m very excited to see him play in person.

Big Ray

October 12th, 2009
10:00 pm

Nire ,

I purposely separated the comments to illustrate how one argument could be viewed as similar to another. But, I suppose if you want to, you can split the hairs until you go bald. Won’t take long…

As for “responding to key lines”…heh, heh…there’s this guy I know who gets all wrapped around the axle every single time somebody does that with his posts. Gets a bit purturbed when people “attack the details” of his post, instead of “addressing the point” he was trying to make….sound like anybody you know? ;)

I make no bones about having opinions on JJ. I could easily be identified as a “critic.” And a Horford critic, a Josh critic, a Bibby critic, a Marvin critic, a Crawford critic, and so on. In other words, I see the shortcomings in one player as much as I do another. I think sometimes people have a hard time understanding that there is a fundamental difference between the proverbial “critic” and the proverbial “hater.” Both words can be, and in fact ARE misused. I like all of these guys, but I am willing to recognize and voice my criticisms on each. Sorry, but they all have shortcomings. Even JJ. Doesn’t mean I don’t like and appreciate all of them. Some we will agree about. Some we won’t.

Besides, where would you be without an argument? Your sword and shield would get rusty, and your dragon might run away from home. :)

Big Ray

October 12th, 2009
10:07 pm

Melvin ,

I really didn’t want to get excited over another rookie. The only top 20 draft pick in the past 5 years that I was excited about before the draft, that actually made it worth it was Al Horford. I was afraid Josh Smith would turn into a dunker off the bench and nothing more, never liked Sheldon, thought Childress would be a role player (got that one right), couldn’t stand the Marvin pick, liked the Acie pick, etc.

But Teague just looks so good. I can’t wait to see him play, either!

boxcarar

October 12th, 2009
10:34 pm

Big Ray,
Can you get hold of D3? Freak on the Bird Cage blog.

Ariose

October 12th, 2009
10:44 pm

Melvin, Is she his personal trainer? Were’s Sekou with those Press passes!!! :-p We need more dedicaed trainer like her around. Does she make house calls!!? :twisted:

Ray, just stirrin’ the pot(in really random directions lol!!!) Honestly I couldn’t see it working either. We just haven’t establised that type of team yet…..politics etc. now if we were to make it to the finals WITHOUT another big addition and prove to everyone that YES two 6-10 PF’s CAN take you the distance THEN the NEXT season I could see Kaman coming off the bench W/Zaza without a hitch.

Actually, Kaman is really versitile RIGHT NOW he can dribble, he’s exremely mobile and he has a nice jumper out to 15ft. He may be able to play PF for us off the bench now. Shoot If borederline seven footers Ilgauskas, Sheed,and KG can do it why not Kaman? Also because of Kamans injury history, It wouldn’t be reasonable to trust him in our starting lineup because he IS just a ticking timebomb with another injury seemingly always on the way.

It would be nice though…He is a VERY consistant scoring post presence….something we really need. IT would really take some serious pressure off JJ.

niremetal

October 12th, 2009
11:02 pm

No doubt Kaman has the tools. But the problem with Kaman is that he is as dumb as a rock. No wait, sorry…that’s offensive to innocent rocks everywhere.

So I’ll just say this – his awareness is just atrocious. It’s remarkable how many times he is caught out of position on defense and he rarely makes separation off the pick and roll. It’s truly painful to watch him sometimes, because he has the size, athleticism, and touch around the basket to be an All-Star. But he has the basketball IQ of a roll of tape.

Dang! Now I have to apologize to rolls of tape too…

Ariose

October 12th, 2009
11:14 pm

LOL@ Nire, yeah. I beleive he has that learning disability that the team helps him work through. He says he has it under control now. Kinda like that Travis Outlaw situation where the team has to give him special attention. But once you get past that….But I thinthat this year is the REAL evaluation season to see what we really need to make that run.

Melvin

October 13th, 2009
12:06 am

Ray, I will go on the record and say Teague will be a good player at the least in this league if he stays healthy.

Ariose, They actually call her the Watermelon Lady… Wonder why they gave her that nickname….lol

Melvin

October 13th, 2009
12:09 am

Complete highlights from the Hawks/Bobcats game tonight. Jeff Teague is a player…

http://www.nba.com/video/games/hawks/2009/10/12/0010900045_cha_atl_recap.nba/index.html?ls=gt1hp0010900045

Big Ray

October 13th, 2009
12:45 am

Melvin,

I finally had to check your youtube link out. OMG….if Zaza is working with that , he’s not going to have any strength left for the season, is all I can say. :0

Ed

October 13th, 2009
3:45 am

Let’s keep this team together and see what they can do. The players are there and if handled properly can be really good do to natural maturation. That makes Woody the critical / central figure…

vava74

October 13th, 2009
6:19 am

Melvin, Ariose,

Actually, that exercise (both really and figuratively) would completely eliminate Zaza’s little – but improved – jumping ability…

To jump high you need lean thighs and potent legs, not the opposite (and to preserve off court your stamina intact…).

If you are interested, I could get you guys a link where you could check out the watermelon lady in full splendour… :-)

Melvin

October 13th, 2009
7:46 am

Vava,

Send that link anything you ready, buddy…

Melvin

October 13th, 2009
7:46 am

vava74

October 13th, 2009
7:47 am

I don’t think Big Ray and AJC will approve!!!

Melvin

October 13th, 2009
10:02 am

Oh well, it was the thought that counts…

niremetal

October 13th, 2009
10:28 am

From Sekou’s blog, a suggested nickname for Jeff Teague: “JT0″ or “Little JT0,” in homage to his initials + uniform number and also to the fast little Pontiac sports car from the 60’s and 70’s. I point you to the classic rock song by Ronny and the Daytonas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44kg0IENTPU

C’mon and turn it on, wind it up, blow it out JT0.

Trainwreck

October 13th, 2009
11:41 am

I like the story and everything, but isn’t it kind of obvious to say that we need JJ to be at his most efficient/effective? Don’t we need that from everyone? I don’t think Johnson is going to do something drastic to change his game… he doesn’t need to. With the supporting cast he has, his numbers should become more efficient while maybe dropping a little. (FG% up, PPG down). Part of being recognized as elite player is people outside of your city recognizing your talent. With more national exposure this year, and hopefully another all-star selection, his status should definitely improve… though I don’t think people will call him”elite”

KakNiqueTree

October 13th, 2009
3:11 pm

Let’s see here, Bibby will be Steve Nash, Al Horford will be Amare Stoudemire, and Mike Woodson will be Mike D’Antoni. All these things happen, then Joe can go back to being the Joe he was in the 04-05 season, and the Hawks will win 62 games this season and Joe can get another hefty contract from another team, who will have thirty owners, one of whom will object to it (Steve Belkin, anyone?) and that team will go into some sort of disarray.

kirkinga

October 13th, 2009
7:30 pm

Ray I’m still here every day keeping up with the conversation.I just don’t have the energy right now to do much more than read. I’m still recovering from the Braves, they ripped my heart out the last week of the season and so I need a few moments before the season starts to gather myself.

I will always be a Hawks fan as well. The conversation here has been excellent. Here’s hoping the Hwks do not take the same path as the Braves!

Go Hawks!!

Ufo

October 13th, 2009
9:34 pm

Can you guys go to Youtube and see this two videos the first one will scare you and the second one will make you feel bad for the usa.

First video: La bruja de morelia.

Second video: 2009 gold cup final usa vs mexico

Go Hawks!!

Ufo

October 13th, 2009
9:50 pm

Ufo

October 13th, 2009
9:55 pm

Let me know if any of you saw one of the videos.

Big Ray

October 13th, 2009
10:45 pm

Kirk ,

I feel ya, bro’. It was a tough way to end the season. Well, I think the Hawks have a better chance at more success. Maybe next year for the Braves.

TrainWreck ,

Yeah, I suppose it IS kind of obvious, huh? You’re right though: when a player does well, but his team does better , he tends to get the acclaim. The Hawks just had their first winning record in several seasons. A 2nd such season, with more wins (this will be exceedingly difficult) and more importantly a better quality playoff showing will go a long way towards that.

That would be great for JJ. It would be even better for the franchise.

KakNiqueTree ,

That was actually kinda funny. :)

Big Ray

October 13th, 2009
10:48 pm

To reiterate, making the playoffs two years in a row is nice, but the first year was off of a losing record. Nobody is going to get much respect for that. And even though we jumped from 8th to 4th place seeding last season, our first round performance was less than excellent, considering it was against a team we should have beaten the snot out of.

Couple that with an injury-plagued sweep by the Cavs, and there isn’t much to respect when you’re talking about what people are saying across the nation. The injuries are largely to blame, but I’m not sure an entirely healthy squad doesn’t get swept last season. Sound crazy? Not if the Cavs won all 4 games by close margins of victory. A loss is a loss.

This team needed cohesion and depth. They got one during the offseason, thanks to Rick Sund. Do they have the other?

doc

October 13th, 2009
11:50 pm

kirk, they just teased all season, never could stand up and do it when it counted (pads, reds, pirates, nats) then went into a tail spin to finish third in their own division. shameful. you better not see that from the hawks, beginning to think woody is a better coach than bobby.

melvin, quite a workout in heels no less. if he did that workout it would only affect his wide body not his leaping ability.

doc

October 13th, 2009
11:53 pm

also stupid to have let go of roachy when they did and to have left hanson on the farm at the beginning of the season. are they still crying for glavine back at the dob blog site?

Big Ray

October 14th, 2009
2:39 am

Doc ,

The Hawks do anything remotely like that and you can color Woody GONE…

JSS

October 14th, 2009
11:29 am

Wouldn’t the classic case of person becoming an “elite” star later be Havlicek? I think he would been a star earlier; but he was the 6th man in Boston for so long… In a non-conventional player, I would nominate Rodman. He was one dimensional, but no one could stop him on the boards when he put his mind to it…

Nire, Ando, and Ray…
How old was Kevin Johnson when he made the big jump in his quality of play with Tom Chambers?

vava74

October 14th, 2009
2:16 pm

MannyT,

I case you drop by and are interested, I posted a reply to your closing post in the previous blog.

Big Ray

October 14th, 2009
6:39 pm

JSS ,

If you ask me, Kevin Johnson’s surge had nothing to do with Tom Chambers. In his third year in the league, Johnson averaged 20.4 points, 12.2 assists, 4.2 rebouns, and 1.67 steals per game. Yes, in his THIRD YEAR. He also shot 50% from the field. He was awful from three point range, but he hardly took 3s (he shot 2-22 that year from 3-point range). He had a career average of over 49% from the field.

It would seem to me that he was already “elite” in his third year. Compare those numbers to a guy like Chris Paul, or rather vice versa.

Even Joe Johnson isn’t quite in that category as far as production goes. And may never be.

drmaryb

October 14th, 2009
6:52 pm

Hello Big-Ray,

Woooee Maaanne! Congrats on here. I read your entire article before I knew it was You. I thought I was reading a commentary from Sekou? Anyway, It’s been a while for me on here. I have been out here building my practice and just opened a 2nd location last week. However, I am a true-blue HAWKS FAN who reads often and from a distance who rarely has time to make comments anymore!

This is an exciting new season up-coming and I got my pop-corn, cherry-coke and got rid of that old “razor-sharp thomg” This team since Mike Bibby doesn’t make my azz hurt anymore. He has been a crucial piece that makes this team really go! Joe finally got another brain-trust to help him make smart plays!

I agree 1000% with your assessment of what we need from JJ! He’s got some serious help now! What I like about this new team is Jamal Crawford and the Journey-Man “Joe-Smith” (who BTW reminds me of Marvin Williams) Because he was a high draft pick who never became more than an ELITE-ROLE-PLAYER! Now he’s on our team and should really help M-Williams develop the same as he has! I like the chemistry & mix of 4-5 high quality players who know how to play together and become impossible to beat..because, they come in waves and the opponent can’t just shut ONE-PLAYER down to beat your team. NOW these teams gotta PICK-THEIR-POISION!!! when they come to PHILLIPS-ARENA!!!

The Hawks can beat you 5 different ways and Good-Writtens to the “Billy-Knight Project”!!!
Welcome home “RICK-SUND” that man knows how to build a team & now THEY WILL COME!!!

All JJ has to do now is just be JJ! That is more than Good-Enough for me!

Big-Ray! YOU ARE HANDS – DOWN…THE MOST TALENTED BLOGGER/WRITER I HAVE EVER READ!!! I saw your genious when i called you little-ray! ha ha .. LOL! You have truly got a Chiropractor who has your back…like… a Bobby-Knight .. Tight-Red-Sweater!
Hello to Doc, Najeh, Rich-Brave, Clyde, Manny T, et.al (check my FaceBook: -Dr. Mary Ellen Burton-

niremetal

October 14th, 2009
7:45 pm

Ray,

Actually, that was in KJ’s second year in the league. Kinda like the Suns that JJ was on in his last year, that team was stacked. But KJ had the Steve Nash role, while JJ was handed the Jeff Hornacek role as it were…

Big Ray

October 14th, 2009
7:59 pm

drmaryb ,

Welcome back, girl! Where you been? Thanks for the props, and glad to see you around once more. I agree, Rick Sund has done a nice job with this team. I look forward to more shrewd/solid moves from this fella.

Nire ,

Thanks for the correction. I forgot that he was traded in his second year, hence the split in stats. I always kind of liked how Cleveland made that draft pick. It lit a fire under Mark Price. And if it hadn’t, they would have had KJ, who was going to be a special player anyhow. Definitely a difference in roles played by KJ and JJ. I just love the way KJ did his thing without the 3 point shot. Very few 6 foot guards have played that way. He mastered the drive and the midrange shot.

I can think of some guys who need to get that in their games, and I hope Teague learns to be that way, though I suspect he will be taking some 3s. He may need to work on his form.

Big Ray

October 14th, 2009
8:02 pm

Who are we playing tonight, the Grizzlies?

doc

October 14th, 2009
8:37 pm

wassup DMB, still cracking?

niremetal

October 14th, 2009
9:39 pm

I don’t know that JT0 has KJ’s instincts as a distributor, but we shall see…

Big Ray

October 14th, 2009
11:18 pm

Oh, I’m not counting on it. It would just be nice to see.

Big Ray

October 15th, 2009
1:27 am

New blog is up, ya’ll…..