The Dark Side of Nick Saban

In Alabama, they’ve already erected a statue of Nick Saban.

In Georgia, many people alternate between hating Saban or Steve Spurrier.

Ex-Dolphins coach Nick Saban (AP)

Ex-Dolphins coach Nick Saban (AP)

In South Florida … well that is the place that Saban is – by far – hated the most.

Guess where the BCS Championship game will be played? In Miami, where Saban had a dismal experience as coach of the Miami Dolphins and also misled everybody on taking the Alabama job.

Florida Sun-Sentinel columnist Dave Hyde rehashed the general feeling about Saban:

  • On the hypocrisy of Saban saying it’s not fair for Florida to jump over the loser of the SEC Championship game when Alabama did it last year: Hyde: “Saban, the self-anointed arbiter of what’s fair and true and righteous in sports. That’s a good one … But logic never was Saban’s strong suit. Or truth. Or humanity, as all the old Dolphins stories say.”
  • On Saban’s “Florida sunshine” personality while with the Dolphins: Hyde: “He ordered a personal lieutenant, whose internal nickname was Dr. Doom, to tell Dolphins office workers to quit greeting Saban in the morning.”
  • And, of course, there’s the story about Saban walking right over an offensive lineman who was having convulsions in football practice.

Hyde then made these two points: “1. As a man, he’s a lout. 2. As a coach, he’s the best in sports today.” After summarizing his opinion, Hyde wrapped it up with this: “That’s why there’s such mixed feelings for Saban. We saw the lout. We just never saw the lout who won enough to make his personality irrelevant.”

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Russo

November 28th, 2012
1:35 pm

Scumbag who wins. Great American story.

Patrick

November 28th, 2012
1:40 pm

1. Saban went to the playoffs his 1st of two years at Miami. So I wouldnt say it was a complete failure. 2. Bama didn’t jump anyone to get to the BCS championship game last year. They were already #2. Lest you forget going into the LSU/ARK game, the BCS rankings were #1 LSU, #2 Bama & #3 Arkansas. Georgia was never in contention for a BCS bowl in 2011.

AJC BIASED ALERT!

November 28th, 2012
1:49 pm

UGA will get beat Saruday

Hankie Aron

November 28th, 2012
1:53 pm

Patrick- You’re missing the point. Saban complained this week that teams who didn’t play in the SEC Championship should not jump the teams that did as far as the quality of Bowl they play after the SEC Championship game. Going by his logic this week, Alabama should not have had the right to play in last years BCS Title game.

Sounds to me like Steve Spurrier- He is only for something if it benefits him. Rules or logic? Only if my team isn’t the one left out.

Hankie Aron

November 28th, 2012
1:57 pm

If UGA loses this game Saturday they could fall all the way to the Chick Fil A Bowl . Same for Alabama but because of the national following they probably couldn’t fall that far.

OkieDawg

November 28th, 2012
1:59 pm

He’s a coach who gets paid to win. He keeps his players out of trouble and in the classroom. He develops these young men into NFL caliber talent. He is focused on what he is paid to do, win. And he does it within the rules.

So what if he doesn’t want to be greeted in the morning. So what if he states his opinion. And I bet there is his side of the story involving the player that was convulsing. Like maybe he was not aware of the players condition.

He’s a coach…not a Sunday school teacher.

ngeorgianow

November 28th, 2012
2:04 pm

Saban did not complain, he was asked his opinion and gave it. I don’t give a crap if he tells those players that their daddies smush butterflies with little pink ribbons, they choose to play at Alabama everytime they show up for practice, and if they want to play well, they may continue. I think it is so funny that he is so hated in Georgia and Alabama. If I were him, I would read every silly article and use it to wipe stuff. Then, I would giggle as I got in my Mercedes and ride off into the sunset to go win another game. As for me, I am a long-time Bama fan. I have been here through the good and the bad. I will be here for a long time and I have never hated another coach because they win ballgames!! I have better things to do, like figuring out which hotel to stay at in MIAMI.

A.I.

November 28th, 2012
2:05 pm

@AJC BIASED– When is “Saruday”? does not compute

dobearsbare

November 28th, 2012
2:06 pm

I wouldn’t say he keeps them out of trouble. He just keeps their foibles out of the media. It’s quite likely that all of the criticisms of Saban are valid. It’s definite that Alabama fans couldn’t care less. He may be a jerk, but he’s their jerk.

Hankie Aron

November 28th, 2012
2:13 pm

OkieDawg-I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying about Saban but if he only cares about what benefits his team, fair or not, then you’re not getting an opinion that is good for College Football as a whole. Just like the comments he made after beating Ole Miss at home. They only won I think by 16 or 20 points and He didnt’ like the hurry up, up tempo offense that Ole Miss used against them so he comes up with some stupid garbage about player safety. It didn’t benefit his team because he couldn’t substitute players out. Nevermind that what Ole Miss was doing was completely within the rules and dont’ think for a moment that UGA didn’t notice the success that Ole Miss had at getting under Saban’s skin.

Hankie Aron

November 28th, 2012
2:16 pm

Regardless- Saban has the best game preparation I have even seen from a coach and he is the best recruiter as well.

Hankie Aron

November 28th, 2012
2:19 pm

I certainly don’t hate Saban but as a fan I do have some healthy jealosy of his ability to run his program. I still would take Richt over him because the above article, true or not true, would never be written about him. But that’s just me.

Darth Hater

November 28th, 2012
2:21 pm

Nick Saban has a BRIGHT side???????

(Aside from that false facade he shows the single mothers of prized recruits, of course)

Son of Bear

November 28th, 2012
2:23 pm

Nick Saban recruits and creates Future CHAMPIONS.

Mark Richt recruits and creates Future FELONZ.

ROLE, TIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

JT

November 28th, 2012
2:25 pm

Most people will develop somewhat of a dark side living in sunny South Florida. Don’t hate on the tanned.

UGA Grad

November 28th, 2012
2:25 pm

Truth

November 28th, 2012
2:25 pm

GA fans you can keep Richt and AL fans can keep Saban. I find it amusing the obsession GA fans have with this guy. If Al was 6-6 or worse, we would not hear one word from you. He and Al are winning and now you have a problem with the guy. It seems to me to be jealousy by the GA fans at the lack of success. Al can’t help that you’ve won nothing since 1980. That is at the feet of the GA brass. You want to get mad, go complain to your administration. They are the ones who set you back 30+ years. JMO.

Gary

November 28th, 2012
2:25 pm

Make no mistake, we do not alternate between Saban and Spurrier. Bama is something Georgia has to deal with everyonce in a while. We may get tired of Bama fans who tend to move to Atlanta in packs with their Auburn enemies in tow, but most of us respect his accomplishments. We down right hate Spurrier. He is an every year pain in the a$$. He may have bragging rights, but he is constantly taking stabs at Georgia in the media. He really hates UGA since he could not beat the Dawgs as a QB, he lives to beat us as a coach. He does a pretty good job of beating the dawgs. I am ready for the visor to retire. I do not hate Saban. I do question some of his recruiting tactics as do many professional journalists(as noted in the WSJ is several articles, don’t deny it, is legal but unethical Bama fans) but I respect what he is done and how he acts a coach. Spurrier sounds like a spoiled rotten brat when he opens his mouth.

UGA Grad

November 28th, 2012
2:26 pm

Son of Bear

November 28th, 2012
2:29 pm

UGA fans only wish they could have the legacy, history, championships & pedigree of THE CRIMSON TIDE.

Herschel Walker is now over 50, and he is not ever coming back to Athens.

Coach Saban owns The Great State of Alabama. On Saturday, he’ll once again take ownership of this sorry State, too.

ROLE, TIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

JB

November 28th, 2012
2:30 pm

Don’t know his heart, only his actions. He has a history of achieving the ” Process’ as he likes to call it. I believe the process is to do what ever it takes to win, damn who gets hurt or left behind. Now, he might write big checks to church or Charity, I don’t know…….But I’ll take Richt any day of the week…..Trophies or not.Saban is where he needs to be. That’s all they care about in Bama……Good for them.

kevin

November 28th, 2012
2:33 pm

Saban is probably about as good a recruiter as the other “great recruiters” in college football. The reason he can recruit so well RIGHT NOW is simple: Alabama has been the powerhouse of college football since 2008. That’s the difference.
If Georgia or Notre Dame wins this year’s national championship, how many high school seniors will IMMEDIATELY put them at the top of their list? WINNING is the best recruiter.

Hankie Aron

November 28th, 2012
2:35 pm

Son of Bear- It’s ROLL not ROLE JB- Son is the Alabama fan case in point.

Hankie Aron

November 28th, 2012
2:36 pm

agreed kevin. to be the man you have to beat the man. And all the kids will notice.

kevin

November 28th, 2012
2:37 pm

Son of Bear, Herschel is no longer eligible. He professionalized himself. What’s funny about your statement (which sounds word for word what I heard on CSS’s “Talking SEC Football” last night) is that I’d bet Herschel could “walk through that door” and gain quite a few yards against Alabama on Saturday.
30 years later and there’s still no comparison. That’s when you know someone was great.

Son of Roaring Dan

November 28th, 2012
2:37 pm

The people that love Saban are his players, the people who he works for, all the assistant coaches he has gotten big jobs and turned into millionaires, and Alabama fans. The people who hate Saban — and are obsessed with him — are opposing fans and sportswriters. The AJC is obsessed with Nick Saban.

cowbellhell

November 28th, 2012
2:40 pm

I wouldn’t let my son play for that jack a_ _ for all the tea in china… you can keep him bama homers… Alabuma is the most overrated team in college football this year. I got two words for you idiot hicks: Johnny Football

Son of Bear

November 28th, 2012
2:41 pm

Sorry, Georgia fans.

(or… Georgia Fans = Sorry )

ALABAMA has:

* Better Football

* Better Barbecue

* Better Women

* Better Fans

* Better Statues to Honor Our Multi-National-Championship Head Football Coaches

ROLE, TIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROLE, TIDE !!!!!

kevin

November 28th, 2012
2:44 pm

I love UGA and I love Mark Richt, but had Richt ever left or been fired, I would’ve loved for Saban to come to UGA. Not that he would’ve, just saying I would’ve loved it. I think most level-headed fans would agree.
Spurrier, on the other hand? I’d rather not watch college football than pull for Spurrier. I would’ve boxed up all my Georgia stuff till he was gone.
Saban is a winner with not the best attitude. Spurrier is a whiner who stopped maturing emotionally around age 10.

Patrick

November 28th, 2012
2:44 pm

Hankie Aron – I understand what you are saying. I somewhat agree. What I think Saban’s saying is you shouldn’t be punished if you lose a conference championship game. Its obvious conference championship games dont matter. Ex. you have a team in ND that doesnt even play in a conference going to the BCS Championship and another team in K-State or (Oky St. last yr) that dont play a conference championship game.

To me conference championship games shouldn’t factor in the calculation of the BCS standings. I feel that whatever the BCS standings are at the end of the 12 game regular season, that is what should determine the BCS bowls b/c thats the only time everything is even across the board. If a team, like Alabama in 2011, can go to the BCS championship w/out even winning their division, then a team should not be punished for losing a conference championship game when all other BCS conferences dont play championship games and some teams are independents.

And again, Bama didnt jump anyone last year. They were the #2 team in the BCS. The BCS’s job is to match the #1 & #2 teams, whether you win your conference or not. The only team it could have hurt last year was LSU, just like this yr. One last thing, Im for conference champions w/out divisions or championship games (Round Robin). Thats the only way you can gauge who the true best team in your conference is.

kevin

November 28th, 2012
2:45 pm

Son of Bear, you went too far when you started talking about BBQ

JB

November 28th, 2012
2:46 pm

I do like one thing about Bama…..I miss the fifties, so every now and then I ride over there to enjoy that era again.

JB

November 28th, 2012
2:48 pm

These Bama yahoo’s were nowhere to be found between Stallings and Saban. Guess most worked overtime at the mill to burn off the frustrations. I remember fear the thumb when Tuberville beat them 5-6 years in a row.

secbama

November 28th, 2012
2:48 pm

Keep talking smack Pups. Make ole’ St. Nick angry. Your players are letting their rears overload their ears. So is your local media. See ya Saturday. And please, wear those BLACK UNIFORMS again…because you are fixing to be attending another funeral.

BAMA 44
PUPS 20

Time4Bama

November 28th, 2012
2:48 pm

Oh brother. There is some butthurt by some people. And the writer(s) of this article are hiding behind “AJC Sports”.

JB

November 28th, 2012
2:49 pm

Saban hoping to get even with Richt Saturday. Richt holds a 3-2 lead when head to head ( LSU&Bama)

kevin

November 28th, 2012
2:52 pm

secbama, Saban is a great coach, no doubt. But I really doubt he’s reading articles on AJC Sports this week, especially these comment sections. Nothing anybody says on here makes one bit of difference in the outcome of any game that’s ever played.

kevin

November 28th, 2012
2:53 pm

WHY CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? lol

Bammer

November 28th, 2012
2:54 pm

Lol at JB thinking Georgia is soooo advanced. Have you been outside of Metro Atlanta lately there d-bag? Macon and Augusta are FINE towns.

JB

November 28th, 2012
2:55 pm

Saban is a great spokesperson for the Little People of America Assoc…….Those little folks need a voice.

sal2177

November 28th, 2012
2:55 pm

Man you have to love the AJC bias. I cannot wait until Saturday when Alabama knocks the arrogance out of these UGA fans. I will take Nick Saban over Mark Richt any day to coach my team.

Only Whiners Complain

November 28th, 2012
2:56 pm

The Tuscaloosa News is fair and balanced in its coverage of the upcoming game. The AJC would have you think Georgia invented football. The players at Alabama have absolutely nothing bad to say about Nick Saban, and he is a stern disciplinarian. If anybody has the right to bitch, it’s them. I worked there, I would know. The rest of the world is either want-to-be-successful bitter nobodies or never-has-been-successful nobodies, whining their way around like snot-nosed kids. Nothing brings out the worst in the rest of the world like success in part of it. Leave it all on the field, and quit yer crying.

Bammer

November 28th, 2012
2:57 pm

Annnnnd here we go with the meaningless stats that you Dawgs LOVE to throw out. Richt is 20-0 vs. Bama when the moon is in the seventh house of Aquarius and he is 15-2 against Saban when both coaches wear khaki pants.

Little secret: Stats are for teams who can never win anything big. Cling to em all you want…me I like looking at crystal when I visit the Athletic Admin building…not stat sheets.

JB

November 28th, 2012
2:57 pm

I’m giving a Tall Building tour for Bama folks Friday from 2 to 4 for $2……Email……Tallbuildings@Atlanta.com

Only Whiners Complain

November 28th, 2012
2:59 pm

I remember a lot of people had crap to say about Coach Bryant, too. I’d rather have Saban than someone who exerts no discipline on or off the field. I worked at UA when the Sainted Bill Curry was there and I’m sorry I didn’t run over him when I had the chance – he treated the players horribly. You base your judgment on what you hear and not what you actually know from personal experience. It’s going to be a great game Saturday – Lord, you’d think you people would be HAPPY to have gotten there and quit slinging stones. Can ya be happy, or just remain bitter?

Nick "I changed my mind about you" Saban

November 28th, 2012
2:59 pm

Don’t forget about all of his recruits who got the carpet ripped out from underneath them.

Only Whiners Complain

November 28th, 2012
3:01 pm

Oakie Dawg, you are THE MAN (or THE WOMAN, as the case may be). I’d love to shake your hand. You demonstrate true sportsmanship. Maybe you could teach a class on the subject.

dizzy dawg

November 28th, 2012
3:02 pm

Bama fans make me laugh. What a bunch of uptight idiots. NEWSFLASH…you’re not smart just b/c your football team is good.

JB

November 28th, 2012
3:02 pm

Love to see Bama folks worked up over ANY criticism of their program. Like most, they leave out the “dark” heritage of that program….And there is plenty.

Bammer

November 28th, 2012
3:03 pm

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