LSU deletes crosses from fan photo

Once again, Christians are the only ones that can be offended and it is perfectly ok. But, we have to be careful and not offend anyone else.

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I am offend that you took it off. Why is the country so afraid of offending someone. That is part of what is wrong today in America. We have became the society of pleasing everybody.Stand up for what you believe, so be it if you step on someones toes. Screw them if they don’t like it!!

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Can’t we just go to, play, or watch a football game without having someone’s personal, private beliefs shoved in our faces? It’s football, not church. Keep it to yourself.

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LSU certainly didn’t mind offending Christians, now did they!!

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@770to345, Agreed.

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I’m borderline atheist and can’t stand how religion is thrust into everything. HOWEVER, if somebody has a cross on their chest it doesn’t offend me. It’s absurd to airbrush it out. I’m all about freedom of religion but it doesn’t mean freedom from religion. Sorry fellow religion haters, just roll your eyes and get over it. Now if they would ban those idiot street preachers from in front of Sanford stadium, I can get behind that haha

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770to345 – it’s not “shoved” in your face. If you chose to ignore the cross, then IGNORE it.

I don’t think the painted on cross jumped off the guy’s body, ran over to you, jumped in your face and started yelling JESUS, JESUS, JESUS!!!

Get a life. Don’t like what someone’s wearing, DON’T LOOK! Duh.

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If LSwho officials were so worried about offending then choose a different group to photograph altogether. Had they been photo’d holding Korans, all would be good I suppose. The last time I checked, this country is comprised by Christians as an overwhelming majority.

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As someone who has been sitting in a church weekly since I was born, I still have yet to find the passage that commands us as Christians to be offended at all possible times. The airbrushing is a bit extreme but good for LSU. They’re a public institution and they represent students of all faiths (or none, my atheist friends).

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Why would LSU inject themselves into this? Students express their personality and their beliefs in way that are supportive of the school. Why does LSU need to edit what these kids believe? Why would their Christian beliefs make them somehow inappropriate for a picture? Is LUS really suggesting that they would like to edit Christian believers out of the LSU family?

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No one is disputing the right to wear the crosses. It’s the public institution that can run into issues. You know, 1st amendment and all. Or does that not imply when the religion in question is Christianity?

As mentioned, the only “issue” here is LSU should’ve used another photo.

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*apply

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@ Mike, good point, Touchdown Jesus has got to go. It offends me when N.D. scores a t.d.

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the crosses don’t bother me, and i’m not religious at all. actually, the only thing that did bother me was when all those idiots waited in long lines at Chick-Fil-A just to make a point. then again, only point they made was that they were stupid enough to wait in line for over an hour for fast food.

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suicide fart – they stood in line to support a man’s decision to have his own opinion.

Guess you don’t think you’re entitled to have an opinion.

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You supposed christians sure like to play the victim don’t you?

Grow a pair, man up and shut up.

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I’ve never been to LSU’s campus, but i bet there are some turbins and such being worn around campus

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“We don’t want to imply we are making any religious or political statements, so we air-brushed it out,” the school said in a statement.

–Isn’t airbrushing it out making a rather strong statement?

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I’m surprised so many people are willing to tolerate censorship. Journalistically, altering a photo in this way is totally unacceptable.

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If any other religious symbol had been affixed to them (Star of David, Crescent Moon, love beads, whatever), no air brushing would have taken place. And the cheesy statement by the University lapdog is funny.
This reminds me a few years ago of the University of Wisconsin inserting a black person into a crowd picture from the football statement on the media cover, then having it brought to their attention that the person they used was a big anti-football student on campus. Too funny. If you don’t like the original picture, just don’t use it. Don’t alter it.
PC run amuck on University campuses. Who’d have thought it
And, as with many government flunkies, that’s tax dollars at work. We’ll let the LA state taxpayers decide whether they think such people are worthy of their tax dollars (although

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Lets take religion out of this all together. What the school did was step all over their rights to freedom of expression. They chose t use the photo and then could not except the fact that the students were expressing their beliefe out in the open. This to me is another time when peoples civil rights were walked all over.

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Who cares? They were LSU fans anyways.

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A far better question is why do some Christians feel they need to advertise to the entire world? If you’re a Christian, you show it through your actions. It’s easy to paint on a cross, much more difficult to live as Christ did.

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“Only one of the students, who didn’t appreciate it, actually contacted us about it. So next time, we’ll just choose a different photo.”
Well you just do that sparky, that will show them. Jackwagon!

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to Zinc and other sheltered ones, LSU is their school to. If LSU was proud enough to select and then use the photo, then they without doubt use it as it really is, not altered.

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Matt…..you say you are a borderline atheist! Explain how that is even possible.

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Bill – The cross is an offensive symbol? It’s called freedom of religion. This was one of the founding principles of our country. Your stupidity is offensive.

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The cross is a reminder of the greatest act of love in all the history of mankind. We wear it to remind outselves of what Jesus Christ did for us on the cross, when He laid down His own life to build a bridge from us to the Father. He made all things new. He also told us in His Word that the day would come when the cross itself would be a source of offense to non-believers and blasphemers. And so it is. The invitation is still open for all to come to the cross.

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@suicide fart, what’s plain and simple is that you don’t know why people were standing in line for over an hour for fast food. Check you facts so that your comments make sense. First of all your comments should be about the subject matter at hand not Chick-Fil-A. Second, what’s your problem calling someone an idiot? Do you know these people? I’m sure someone you do know was in one of those Chick-fil-A lines and never thought thats how you would have seen them for supporting a cause. Third, so what if folks wanted to spend an hour or so of their time waiting in line for (fast food) you weren’t going there anyway until the next week…..And lastly, you are intitled to comment on anything you want but, what I don’t understand is why Karen had to become an idiot because she made a comment and it wasnt disrespectful. An opinion is just that! An Opinon, you don’t need to pick a fight….IJS

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Let’s face it – Christianity or a cross has no place in college football, much less college football at LSU.

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@ 770to345 Can’t we just go to, play, or watch a football game without having someone’s personal, private beliefs shoved in our faces? It’s football, not church. Keep it to yourself.

So I guess in your feable little mind you think that Christians should only practice their religion while they are in church. You sir/mam are the true epitome of an idiot.

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This is just an example why a classy coach and gentleman like Mark Richt would eventually just get fired from LSU, too.

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If LSU photoshopped burqas off of muslim women, they be hunted down and killed. But please, pick on the Christians.

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They should have chosen a different photo from the start. But if they were going to use this photo, they did the right thing by remove the crosses.

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666

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This is only an issue because deep inside you Christians know Jesus was just another dude that looks like a member of the Foo Fighters.

“I am passionate about LSU and Christ”….hahhahahahahahhahahahahahahah, moron.

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Well let’s see……..just who is offended by crosses??? Muslims? NO, even though we are taught to believe it. Atheists? Maybe, but they don’t have much political clout. Well now, just who is left??? Could it be that 2% of the US population that makes like vampires whenever they see a Christian Cross? Nah…

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Lily-Livered Sissy University

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If you are LSU (or whoever there that signed off on this, etc.), how do you not know that this is going to be an issue? That stadium has 100,000 people in there each week, maybe just walk down fifteen feet and take a picture of the next group of painted students.

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CHRIST and GOD is being eliminated from everything in America. Keep voting Democrat and think Government should be in the Education business and we will never see anything Christian in this country soon.

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Leave it to religious nuts to freak out and worry about crosses being removed from a photo as their to top priority of their day. That shows everything wrong about religion. Focus on your own life first instead of dumb stuff like this. The world will be a better place.

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“Leave it to religious nuts to freak out and worry about crosses being removed from a photo as their to top priority of their day.”

Leave it to the left wing retards like John to tell Christians what they should and should not do.

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“This is only an issue because deep inside you Christians know Jesus was just another dude that looks like a member of the Foo Fighters.”

Not meant to be a factual statement.

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Coach Saban > The Intolerant Anti-Christians of LSU

ROLE TIDE !

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“Show me one single verse where Jesus said to keep quiet about their faith and not to share it.”

From the book of Matthew, chapter 6:

“Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

There you go, DONNA. That’s several verses! Anything else you need help with? For a Christian, you don’t seem to know the Bible very well. Sadly typical.

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Awwww, did the poor Christians get their feelings hurt?

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“There you go, DONNA. That’s several verses! Anything else you need help with? For a Christian, you don’t seem to know the Bible very well. Sadly typical.”

Another lib taking verses out of context. Who was Jesus talking about in those verses? Pharisees. Pharisees were very hypocritical people. I find it funny that you think the LSU fans are acting like Pharisees. Then again, you’re not very smart to begin with.

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“Another lib taking verses out of context. Who was Jesus talking about in those verses? Pharisees. Pharisees were very hypocritical people. I find it funny that you think the LSU fans are acting like Pharisees. Then again, you’re not very smart to begin with.”

The Pharisees were hypocrites because they professed faith but did not live it. You’re here shouting insults and calling people ‘retards.’ See the similarity? You asked for a Bible verse, I gave you one. Thus, you prove that you actually don’t read the Bible. You’d just have us believe you’re pious. You should go back to the book of Matthew. You might find that Jesus said some things which might surprise you.

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I’m not referring to the LSU fans, but people like you who feel the need to advertise their religion. It’s more important for us to all know that you’re a Christian, rather than you acting like one.

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John, you and your Christian hating buds might want to consider relocating to Israel. They openly spit on Christians there in some areas. You’d love it.

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SBinF………….That is about Telling the world of your good works and being Boastful. It is not about Representing you are a Christian and Sharing the word of GOD.

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The Administration made this decision, not the fans or anyone in the Athletic Dept and most of the fans are just as upset as anyone else who is sick of only Christians having to be PC.

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“Poor baby, did you get your whittle feewings hurt?”

By the lack of substance in your replies, I can only assume you concede the point. You asked for verses, I provided them. Now you have nothing to say.

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” They HAVE to advertise their religion. Because they’re obviously not willing to live it.”

So wearing a cross is wrong? LOLOL!!!! You left wingers are hilarious!

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“By the lack of substance in your replies, I can only assume you concede the point. You asked for verses, I provided them. Now you have nothing to say.

No, I asked for verses that weren’t taken out of context like you did. I posted more than enough verses to back up Jesus telling Christians to spread the gospel.

Not my problem if you have reading comprehension problems.

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How were those verses taken out of context? What context is missing? How does wearing a cross spread the gospel? How does complaining about the removal of a cross spread the gospel?

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“How were those verses taken out of context?

Again, reading comprehension is not your thing. I already explained it in a previous post.

“How does wearing a cross spread the gospel?”

How does it not?

“How does complaining about the removal of a cross spread the gospel?”

That question makes zero sense.

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“The same people crying about being persecuted would just as well spit on a homeless man as he passes.”

And you have what to back that up? Looks like you’re a judgmental Pharisee to me.

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Perhaps the ‘enlightened leaderless’ at LSU should remember the type of organizations who came to their aid, time after time after disasters such as Katrina. Not sure that LSU would be a top choice for a child or grandchild to attend with this lack of values being embraced. Guess they are attempting to develop US apologists — for saving FREEDOM and RELIGIOUS FREEDOM for millions throughout the world.

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“Well let’s agree to disagree DONNA. Sadly you’re proving every terrible stereotype about Christians true.

Whatever you say, ma’am.

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Hey , Tigerdumb,

Freedom of SPEECH? Here’s an option – don’t use the photo. By the way, the photo is property of the photographer, so if LSU bought it or if it’s an LSU photographer the editor could have decided NOT to use it. Don’t tamper with the image.

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Further proof that people who are purported to be “experienced” and “qualified” make stupid decisions all the time. If it weren’t for bad decisions there wouldn’t be so much competition in the world.

Air brushing out a cross suggests that LSU must also air brush out any other symbol or appearance that suggests a person’s religious affiliation. I’m interested if any official LSU photos exist showing students with any religious appearance.

I don’t understand how some on this blog feel that by leaving the crosses in the photo LSU would have been marketing a particular religion. Does that mean LSU is marketing young white men who paint themselves since that’s what’s in the photo? That’s discrimination!

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So maybe the geniuses at LSU should talk to the New Orleans Saints to admonish them about the use of the fleur-de-lis on their uniforms and about being called the “Saints” which as every Christian knows refers to one being a believer in Christ.

From Wikipedia: The name “Saints” is an allusion to November 1 being All Saints Day in the Catholic faith, New Orleans’ large Catholic population, and the spiritual When the Saints Go Marching In, which is strongly associated with New Orleans.

The senseless censoring of Christian symbols and references does not square with the founding principles of America and the people who do it should be ashamed and will ultimately sow what they reap.

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The 1st amendment weeps for the way it has been butchered in this thread. NO ONE is saying the students cannot wear a cross to a football game. I am speculating but what appears to be fairly obvious about the situation is LSU feels that showing a picture of students wearing the cross could be considered a violation of freedom from religion since LSU is a public entity.

The Christian reaction to events such as this is embarrassing. How are you possibly furthering the gospel of Jesus by whining about this? You are wearing a piece of metal around your neck that looks like what Jesus was hung from. Well done, thy good and faithful servant. :sigh:

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I guess LSU should stop the FCA from being on campus. I guess LSU should stop the FCA from having members of both teams getting together at the 50 yardline having a Prayer after the game. LSU should stop players from kneeling in pray when a Player is hurt on the field too.

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gatag

You invented “freedom FROM religion” out of whole cloth. There is no such provision in our founding documents.

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The Superdome was funded in part with public money.

And if you advocate censorship of public events, public or private does not matter.

Spend the rest of the day reading the Constitution.

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Is it OK for LSU to airbrush all the Cheerleaders to have HUGE breasts?

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I admire the affected LSU students for taking steps to be positive role models & share their faith so prominently. No one should be able to take that away from them–LSU shouldn’t have used the picture if it didn’t want to “offend” anybody, plain and simple. My opinion on this spans all religions, although I do think Christians have been particularly targeted in the government & media over the past 15 years or so. The purpose of the religious freedom clause of the First Amendment was to keep the government out of religion, and not necessarily the other way around. This type of restraint on religious expression is unacceptable.

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“Dear DONNAN, from one Christian to another (or maybe you’re just pretending), please stop. Stop arguing, stop with the political drivel, calling people names, heck… just stop posting. You are making every Christian look bad.”

I didn’t call any specific person a name, Steve. And no, I can freely post. Thanks

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That airbrusher has a bright future at Playboy!

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gatag,

“from” and “of” mean the same thing right?

As a public university, LSU should be showing pictures of as many students as possible. If they admitted the students they should be proud to display them for who they really are…just saying.

I wonder if LSU has any media displaying members of the football team kneeling in prayer at any point after a game. Or are there any photos of a player pointing to the heavens after scoring a touchdown (not that there’s been that many in 2012)?

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You can copy and paste to a high standard, but you have absolutely no idea what “Congress shall make now law…” means.

I would explain, but you are locked in to an anti-religious “belief” system that a blog entry won’t penetrate. Try reading the Federalist Papers. Did you know that 29 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence held seminary degrees? Do you think their intent was to protect citizens FROM religion? Or could be that they didn’t want a state-prescribed religion?

How sad the state of our country.

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gatag for you it apparently is VERY DIFFICULT to UNDERSTAND.

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I’ll conclude with this:

1 John 2: 23

“Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.” (NIV)

If you advocate Photoshopping a symbol of Christ from football photographs, there is more than a good chance that He will return the favor.

Enjoy this beautiful day.

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Quite the contrary RGB. I’m a Christian who does my best to live by the teachings of Jesus. Wearing a cross around my neck does nothing that I can see to further the gospel. Certainly rolling out the victim card at every corner doesn’t do it.

I also realize that I live in a country with a lot of people who don’t have the same beliefs that I do. I do my best to love them and be charitable, not throw my beliefs in their faces. I can do the work of Jesus just fine without worrying about what the government.

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Duke Blue Devils might be in a little trouble then if they are worried about “offending” someone…..lol

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Try reading the Constitution and US Supreme Court decisions and you might be able to understand that it’s been settled for decades that there is freedom from religion in this country; it’s not even debatable. As I said above, it’s not freedom from all religion, and as I said above, the concept doesn’t seem to apply to this LSU issue.

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I hope we as pup, bama, tiger fans etc can agree this is insane. I have just been insulted as a Christian.

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Cliff it is DEBATABLE…..When something is WRONG it is wrong.

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yes, lsu was right – crosses have no place in an email from the lsu football program.

however, rather than alter the image, they should have just used another picture.

everyone else should put their big boy pants on and stop looking for reasons to be offended.

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What out for Halloween coming up – “religious” symbols galore!

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and for those who believe that the bible is the literal word of god, you should try rereading these parts:

“Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.” – Matthew 6:1

“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full” – Matthew 6:5

*thanks to “mara” for the quotes

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Typical cultural marxism on the campus of institutes of higher indoctrination. Reminds me of Mississippi disengaging themselves from Colonel Reb. They went from the Ole Miss Rebels to the “New Miss Conformists”.

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Cliff, Christians have no use for the constitution. So it’s a pointless argument. Their goal in life is to have Christianity to trump the constitution and make us live by means of theocracy, not democracy. It’s their way or the highway. So I am delighted every time one of them gets their holy noses tweaked something like this incident.

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Hello red herring.

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Dave in Marietta
October 23rd, 2012
10:15 am

Another CLASSIC government school educated fool that thinks the US is a Democracy. dude put your head out. You have been indoctrination to think the US is something it is not.

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the US is not a democracy?

errr, where did you get your civcs/government education exactly?

here, try to learn something today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy

you’re welcome.

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It’s called freedom of expression. If the school had a problem, just use another photo. Don’t alter the photo, as that is censorship.

However, be sure that ANY other religious symbol is NOT in the picture.

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I’m not sure what to tell you. Maybe one of your points will stick sooner or later.

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Herb Vincent said he did not want the crosses to offend anyone. Mr. Vincent need I remind you America was founded on Christianity.

Are you from America or just another transplant? I am an American Christian and you REALLY OFFENDED ME.

LEAVE THE CROSSES alone!!! Put them back on the shirts and rerun the photos. SHAME ON YOU!!!

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Here’s what Billy Graham stated in an ad he’s paying for: Graham is urging Americans to vote for candidates who base their decisions on “biblical principles,” “support the nation of Israel,” “protect the sanctity of life,” and “support the biblical definition of marriage between a man and a woman.”

That’s all he wants people to base their vote on. to hell with the rest of the issues and problems facing the country. As long is it’s biblical, vote for it and ignore everything else. The religious right has perverted the Bible to use it for their narrow minded purposes while Republican leadership is selling this country to the highest corporate bidder and screwing its constituency in the process. But as long as you through out a few buzzwords like Graham is doing, the zealots are happy.

And 5150, I’ll go to my grave clinging to the constitution knowing that it stands for Democracy. If this country is anything less than that, then it is a corpocracy thanks to the Republican Party being the corporate shills that they are.

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I find it funny how it seems only Christian things can be considered possibly offensive and infringing on others’ rights. Freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion… If LSU was a private institution, then maybe they do have the right to play big brother. As a public institution, they should follow the same rules as others… we live in a free country. If I want to wear a cross, a star of David, or any other symbol of my beliefs, I live in a nation that allows me to freely do that.

I’m personally offended by Honey Boo Boo, can somebody erase her? I’m offended by almost all reality television, actually.. but that stuff is shoved down my throat. Heaven forbid somebody choose to quietly (yes, quietly) express their faith by simply painting a cross on their chest (my cross is in tattoo form on my side, actually). If reality tv has the right to exist, then people definitely have the right to not have their own symbols of faith not erased from photos! We might as well be North Korea…

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“The use of the Word SEMINARY implies something different than a College or University.”

That’s true, but what does subsequently deleting the word seminary imply?

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“Robyn Cromer”, i’m sorry that you’re so ill-informed that you think “America was founded on Christianity”

try to pick up a history book sometime and you’ll quickly learn the exact opposite was true.

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@Brand Naming – You have it backwards – LSU was freeloading off these students, by using their image in promotional materials. The university was completely wrong to airbrush the photos and would not have done so if the symbol had been something other than the cross.

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I bet Jerry Sandusky wishes the experts at LSU could help him “Airbrush Out” those documented court testimonies of his victims.

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Dave – one of my favorite aspects of this presidential race is the decision of the conservative Christian. Most that I know prefer to vote for someone who does not share their beliefs over someone who does share their beliefs but is a democrat. I know someone will tell me he’s a Muslim but he does profess to be a Christian.

sorry for the tangent. I hate it when someone makes it about politics and I’m doing it myself!

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Could this threat sway the election in 2 weeks?
LOL.

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one more time, for the really slow commenters (oh hi, 5150 urin*te on a dog):

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_is_the_United_States_a_representative_democracy

this time it is spelled out for ya in very simple english:

“The United States is a multi-faceted Representative Democracy: we elect representatives in many aspects of our government form, all of which have specific duties and limits on power. “

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Individual states practice democratic voting right? The country is a republic of 50 united states plus DC. People put all their political marbles into the presidential election and generally ignore local elections which is where the individual’s real power and influence can be felt. We need to drive change up from our local affairs, not hope that it trickles down from national affairs.

Blame the people, not the system. We aren’t using it right!

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The same reason they deleted the crosses is the same reason obama may win another term, media bias

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www this is The US…..The United States of America (commonly called the United States, the U.S., the USA, America, and the States) is a federal constitutional republic consisting of fifty states and a federal district.

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What’s all the fuss. Its only a little cross – it could have been any other symbol or brand based on fictional tales. Would they remove a little picture of Harry Potter – or would that offfend the HP fans?

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i agree with this, not that it has anything to do with painted chest crosses on an lsu football email:

“We need to drive change up from our local affairs, not hope that it trickles down from national affairs”

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http://www……………you have NO RIGHT to elect a president. You DON’T elect the President either.

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lol. what? i give up. continue with your willful ignorance, i have better things to do than educate a clown. i’m out.

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www WHAT? You don’t have a Legal Right to elect the President. The people don’t elect the President.

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The Electoral College. Each state gets a number of electors equal to the total number of senators and representatives it has. Washington D.C. gets three even though it is not a state.

Each political party chooses the people it wants to serve as electors if it wins that state. On election day, although the names of the presidential candidates appear on the ballots, people are actually voting to choose electors who are pledged to vote for that candidate.

In December, after the popular election, the electors meet in their respective state capitals and cast their ballots for president and vice president. Theoretically, except in a few states, they can actually vote for anybody they want to but of course in practice they almost always vote for whomever they were pledged to support. the person who gets the majority of the electoral votes becomes president.

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Clarity – you’ve actually stumbled onto the point of the issue.
If the symbol had been an LGBT symbol/flag, Muslim star and crescent, some other perceived minority – the outrage would be as strong or stronger.

The point is this – if LSU didn’t want to offend by representing the reality as it was (with the actual picture unaltered) – then use a different picture. The ‘fuss’ is essentially about how the institution used the image. LSU has every right to use the picture as it was taken in a ‘public place’ and therefore protected. LSU has no right to alter the image to be represented as something different.

If you’re not bothered – you probably haven’t thought about it. Assume a photo is taken of you and then represented to your spouse, friends, employer – whoever – of you engaged in some activity that wasn’t occuring. Still no fuss??

Your agreement with the value/worth of the symbol is frankly irrelevant. The issue is does LSU have a ‘right’ to commercially use a digitally altered photo?

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who cares. They did it because they didn’t want to turn off any potential group of people from coming to that school and thus giving them money! $$$

Oh, and you people that think you’re going to an eternal lake of fire because you say GD or have intercourse before marriage or smoke a cigarette are just silly. God has much better things to worry about.

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Dave – your wrong about the basis of the law.

The basis of the law – as established by the government- is simply an agreed upon set of principles some formed entity establishes as relevant and acknowledged by the culture at large. Example: In China forced abortion is the law – because the legal authority has mandated that in the best interest of ‘the state. So ultimately the state can never establish anything but a relative morality that is accepted/approved by some majority of hte population – and that can change over time.

The reality is – that much of our ‘common law’ and the US Consitution does use biblical law as the basis. For example – what’s the logic behind ‘don’t steal’??? On the principle of natural selection – shouldn’t the strongest be able to take from the weakest? Isn’t it more ‘fair’ that everyone be required to pay the exact same percentage in tax? Dirt poor or Bill Gates – shouldn’t matter, right? Or does it matter?

So – you might want to rethink a little the premise that you only want a law based on logic and fairness, because outside of some objective standard – you can’t get there.

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What is funniest to me is that people, from obama supporters to atheists, think I value their feelings enough to give a damn if they are offended.

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“And it reminds me who I need to act like in Death Valley”. What, a total moron?? I guess that IS what your little crosses remind you of. You said it genius.

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@clarity, you make a good point, it’s like people getting offended by santa claus,the easter bunny or the tooth fairy all along the same lines as these crosses fairy tale stuff

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gatag,

Who said it’s a bad thing? Why do so many people lie, steal, cheat, and do other “bad” things even to this day? What authority other than government defines something as “bad”? What about governments that lie, cheat, steal, and kill from its citizens? Are they “bad” too and if so, by whose standards?

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This needs to be newsworthy. Say one thing about Allah and people start rioting and shooting people.
Christians need to stand up for their beliefs.

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The unedited photo also had better lighting. They blanched the heck out of it to look like a fat kid trying to hide their weight on myspace. I expect better from LSU, the school that gave us LSUFreek.

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Devil’s Advocate, I’m trying to understand exactly what you’re asking. Are you implying that religion is what makes lying, cheating and stealing bad?

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gatag – Fair to make that point. However, you’ll need to show me support to really sway me. Possibly – point to Greece and Aristotle and the concepts embodied there where we also acquire much of our ethic/moral basis. But – where relations between boys/men wasn’t uncommon. However today – it’s considered ‘illegal’ for such a relationship – except in Greece where it’s now considered a disability.

My point is this – Dave in Marrieta said, “Laws should be based on logic, reason and fairness not intangible theocratic beliefs.” However, the reality is the institution of the ’state’ is what establishes law – but that law is really based on the whims, fancies and opinion of the culture at a point in time. Not something objective or unchanging – unless logic and fairness can change?

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On judgement day tell God you didn’t want to offend anyone and didn’t wish to hurt someone’s feeling…

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Mr Vincent needs to get a pair…..What a idiot!
LSU just lost a fan..me!

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One Nation Under God

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this is exactly what is wrong today.
christians are all worked up about crosses being airbrushed and political issues INSTEAD of worrying about how to be the types of people they should be.

if the christians in america were true to the teachings of christ…we wouldn’t need government programs to take care of those who are needy. but instead of helping others we are all concerned with “defending” the little bubble in which we all live…slinging mud at unworthy political candidates and protesting the “infringement” of our rights. the early christians had no rights…well, they probably had the right to choose between getting thrown into the coliseum with the lions or crucifixion. and they changed the world. we’re too busy fighting about where to hang the ten commandments in our cushy little air-conditioned government buildings. grow up, people.

“before you remove the speck from your brother’s eye, take the log out of yours.” – Jesus Christ

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what exactly do crosses/christianity have to do with painting yourself crazy colors (reminds me of the Scottish clans in Braveheart) and screaming madly with thousands of other people in a stadium over a bunch of men slamming into each other and doing things with a leather ball? (our modern version of gladiators)?

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LSU…
Lucifer State University

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@whodat 11:46….need more like you. leading by example works much better than stuffing it down someone’s throat.

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Will Notre Dame be required to remove “Touchdown Jesus” from the endzone of their stadium? Will women who follow the Muslim faith be required to uncover their hair when attending football games? For those of us who carry rosaries in our purses be required to remove them? After all praying could pose a threat to the opposing team. LSU needs to recognize that the Offensive game scheme needs all the help it can get, even if it comes from prayea d the Lord.

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“Offended”? “OFFENDED”? What in God’s name is this country doing? Someone “might” be offended by a cross painted on a kid’s chest? If so, then we need to get busy. Let’s start with – a book burning. Then let’s remove all offensive art from museums, art galleries and homes. Maybe we ought to consider taking down American flags, after all there are lots of folks around the globe who find it – and this country – offensive. Oh, and why we’re at it…. well you have to start somewhere. Congratulations LSU for your thoughtfulness in making sure that I”m not offended.

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Ask yourself….What does LSU stand for?

Louisiana STATE university. Notre Dame is a privet institution. Don’t compare the two in an attempt to prove a point.

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Help! Help! They 70% of the US that identified as ‘Christian’ is being oppressed! Again!!

WAH FREAKING WAH

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So LSU constrains free speech if there is even the potential that someone may be offended. That’s an almost insurmountable hindrance to free expression while at the same time the school’s ability to limit it is enlarged exponentially. It’s like the new definition of freedom. You are free to do what you are told.

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I’m thinking if Jesus ever returns, the last thing he wants to see is a cross.

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That is about the dumbest thing that I have ever heard of! When is freakin America going to stop all of this PC CRAP!!!! Offended who?

Funny, but if they were wearing Malcom X hats etc, they would have left that alone!

Dumb move LSU!!!!

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It sounds like G.W. Bush should’ve had Kartina take care of Baton Rouge, too.

It was all his doing, right?

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they have the right to publish , or not to publish or to modify a picture just as all have a right to freedom of expression up to the point of liable I am tired of politics if it’s so bad then sue . other wise shut up!

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As a christian I am offended by people who wear towels on there head. Do they have to remove those from there head if they were at a game?

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LSU’s stadium seats 92,542. I say the Christians boycott a game or two and see if the seats fill. I’ll bet they’ll change their politically correct tune when it hits them in the wallet. How did we let so many idiots get into decision making positions?

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It is better to offend a few people, than to offend God.

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Blatant religious intolerance and discrimination. Somebody should be fired. This is 2012 and you cannot discriminate.

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Hey guys, I’m agnostic and haven’t been in a church for 20 years, but doesn’t anyone else see the irony in all of this? People say LSU should’ve just chosen another group of fans, but they didn’t… wait for it… for a REASON! Why? Because they know these kids are full of team spirit, painted LSU colors, screaming their heads off, and not holding up budweiser cans, nor giving anyone the finger, nor exhibiting any other behavior that LSU doesn’t want to advertise. In short, they want this group to be the face of LSU football fanaticism BECAUSE of their Christian sensibilities. Ironic then that they feel the need to delete the cross, the very symbol of those wonderful Christian sensibilities. I apologize if somebody has already pointed this out. Didn’t read through all the posts.

I think LSU got it waaay wrong on this one.

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Tom…
The little black head coverings that the Jewish people wear are called kippahs(key-pa’s). They come in all kinds of colors and designs and not just the Orthodox Jews wear them. I do not agree with what LSU did. They should have just used a different picture so there wouldn’t be this PR mess.

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I think more people are offended they hid the cross. I know I’m offended. I would never ask a religious person to put aside their accoutrements to suite me. How rude.

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Wow, we certainly have dumbed down this country….nobody, including public institutions like LSU, seem to understand the purpose of the 1st amerndment; the establishment clause is in place ONLY to prevent the government from establishing a state MANDATED religion that all must be a part of (such as the Church of England). It was never intended to have public institutions remove, discourage, or ban religious symbols or expression in any form. So, it is perfectly acceptable for LSU to show the men and their crosses. LSU could put a cross on every photo they use and it would not violate the first amendment unless students were mandated to join that religion. This whole concept of people being offended and removing crosses from photos is in violation of the intent of the 1st amendment and is honestly quite un-American.

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LSU teaches over 100 classes in Religious Studies and Theology….I’m Offended.

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A stupid move by a school so afraid of offending a few and yet they offended many many more. Wrong move tigers. Makes me a little ashame to be a fan. I hope the student athletes that believe in God do not get air brushed from your school pictures.

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Once again, the forces of evil are victorious in keeping any symbol of Christianity from being displayed. Sooner or later we Christian soldiers are going to have had enough and launch another Inquisition. Only this time it will be for those who are non-believers. Does any of this type of action sound familiar in our times?

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