Discuss the controversial Monday Night Football finish

The Seattle Seahawks’ prayer was answered late Monday night. The Green Bay Packers may pray they never have to play in a game with replacement officials on the field again.

Photo tweeted  by WSB-TV's Zach Klein showing officials making contradictory calls on the game-deciding play.

Photo tweeted by WSB-TV's Zach Klein showing officials making contradictory calls on the game-deciding play.

Seattle beat Green Bay 14-12 on a disputed 24-yard touchdown pass as time expired at almost midnight.

Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson threw the ball into a mob of players in the end zone and the pass appeared to have been intercepted by the Packers’ M.D. Jennings, who had both hands on the ball. Seattle’s Golden Tate reached in and also got a hand in the ball and players from both teams wrestled for possession.

One nearby official signalled touchdown at the same time another official indicated Green Bay had the ball and that he was calling a touchback.

After a replay review, the game officially ended 10 minutes later but only after both teams were brought back onto the field for the required extra point. Some Packers players were seen searching for their helmets to complete the game.

Referee Wayne Elliott told a pool reporter after the game that the play was ruled as a simultaneous possession that was confirmed by the replay official.

“They both possessed it,” Elliott said.

But TV replays also showed Seattle’s Tate also illegally shoved Green Bay’s Sam Shields out of the way before leaping to try to catch the pass.

Replacement officials are being used by the NFL during a labor dispute with the regular officials, who were locked out by the league in June. Even before Monday night’s game, the players’ union had called on the 32 team owners to end the lockout, saying it is compromising the integrity of the game.

“Don’t ask me a question about the officials,” Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy said after Monday’s game. “I’ve never seen anything like that in all my years in football.”

Packers guard T.J. Lang was more blunt, tweeting that the Packers were robbed “by the refs. Thanks NFL.”

The Packers got support from others on Twitter as well.

– Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman tweeted “These games are a joke.”

– NBA MVP LeBron James tweeted “I simply just LOVE the NFL too much to see these mistakes. I’m sick like I just played for the Packers”

– Wisconsin State Senator Jon Erpenbach tweeted NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell’s office phone number, saying in a separate tweet that if the ending Monday did not spark an end to the lockout “this season will be a joke.”

The bizarre finish overshadowed a four-sack performance by former University of Georgia player Chris Clemons, who now plays for the Seahawks. All four came in the first half, tying an NFL record.

Read the latest on the game here. Read more about the growing controversy with the use of replacement officials here.

181 comments Add your comment

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
1:50 am

The replacement refs concluded a night of bad calls with a terrible one. The real NFL refs must be delighted.
If I was advising them , I would tell them to take their offer of an 8% raise to 6K per game off the table. Now they have the owners right where they want them and they should ask for 10K a game.
The last play was a Packer pick and not a Seattle TD.
What a joke the NFL may become with these clowns making the calls.

NFLfanboycott

September 25th, 2012
2:06 am

Enough is enough. It’s time we, as fans, take control of our game and show that we won’t stand for this. http://www.nflfanboycott.com

Terry B.

September 25th, 2012
2:33 am

Couldn’t agree more with above comments. Somebody, somewhere is making $$ off this debacle. It’s all about the money- trying to follow the paper trail is fruitless so far!

Humbug

September 25th, 2012
3:09 am

Everybody seems to be upset with the replacement officials except these same officials and the NFL upper management. The replacements are doing the best they can but they are not qualified to call NFL games. They are placing pro football on the same level as pro wrestling.

Ricky

September 25th, 2012
4:11 am

It’s an election year. If there were no replacement Ref’s, there would be no football. Think of all those people who’d be out of a job while the real ref’s and the NFL try to work something out. What really gets me is all the complaining by those who are getting paychecks! Coaches, Players, Announcers, etc. If there were no scab ref’s, then they wouldn’t be getting a paycheck – period. Football has become nothing more than a money sport, like all the other “sports”. Like Terry B. said earlier, trying to follow the $$ Trail is fruitless.

king

September 25th, 2012
4:17 am

I have never thought i would see a QB throw a interception and win the game till last night game. Roger Goodell always talk about the image of the NFL. That image is now damaged. The owners are all billionaires and treating the referee like they don’t exist. The integrity of this game is now questioned and there is lack of leadership in the NFL. This is a professional football. Not NCAA. Everyone saw that Tate push the Greenbay packer defensive Player before making the attempt to catch the ball. That means that call should be offensive pass interference. If the ref call offensive pass interference call, this outcome of the game will be different. I saw that Jennings was the one who caught the ball with 2 hands at the peak of the catch and hold the ball with two hands all the way to the ground. I never saw Tate had possession of the ball from the start to the finish. In fact, Tate’s right arm was on Jennings’ arm, not the ball. The only time i saw that Tate touch the ball was when he was on the ground. Tate had one had while Jennings had two hands. The 2 refereres look at each other and one call touchback and one call touchdown. The people in the replay booth who are not replacements agree with the referee.

P B Orr

September 25th, 2012
4:22 am

That’s corporate America, the most vile organization in American history, and that includes the Klan and Fox News. It’s 2 million bucks for the refs vs 9,000 million in revenue. 1/4500th. But that’s too much for these greedy Shylock beef flautists.

Old Snarkey

September 25th, 2012
5:06 am

Puzzles me why the ref couldn’t see the reception by Green Bay and he just reconfirmed the play as a touchdown. I think Kindergartners could do better than that. That was totally pitiful. Worst play calling that I have ever seen and I have seen a lot of games in my life.

J Goldsmith

September 25th, 2012
5:18 am

I say the NFL needs to “Man-Up” tomorrow and actually CHANGE the outcome of the game to correctly say that Green Bay won the game and not Seattle! Seattle did NOT score a touchdown on the last play of the game, Green Bay clearly intercepted the ball and thus should have maintained their lead and should be declared the victor! The substitute refs got it wrong and the re-play officials got it wrong! America knows and the NFL needs to reverse the outcome as it was presented at the end of regulation play on tv. (Just like a college team is sometimes stripped of winning records and titles when latter evidence shows their program cheated, the NFL needs to man-up and reverse this outcome for the record books!) NOW!

P B Orr

September 25th, 2012
5:24 am

What made it even more remarkable was the fact that Tate just MUGGED the Packers’ defender before the ball got close to anyone – it was one of the most obvious cases of offensive pass interference you’ll ever see. Without doubt the worst call I’ve ever seen in any sport.

drew

September 25th, 2012
5:53 am

Here’s what I don’t get…you’d think the owners would be able to look at the current situation and consider what their players, coaches and GM’s think.

What do the Arthur Blanks of the NFL think about what’s happening to their “product”? You’d think these billionaire owners might tell NFL management to get a deal done. Their product is suffering, but apparently, as long as tickets are sold and people are watching, the NFL doesn’t give a rats-ass what happens on the field. WTF? I mean…come on man!

Felix

September 25th, 2012
5:54 am

everyone seems to forget that if we didn’t have replacement officals we wouldn’t be having any football now! I might add that the announcers in some of these are terriable & have no clue as to the rules; I hear no one screaming to replace them. You take what you have and move on.

right answer

September 25th, 2012
5:58 am

It was the right call, MD can’t establish possession with 2 feet off the ground.

We see one hand catches all the time. Tie goes to the offense.

Thomas

September 25th, 2012
6:01 am

After futher review, the runner did not touch second base – Touchdown Celtics

Burgers n frys

September 25th, 2012
6:17 am

First Fox News did not give game to seattle it was NFL commish who not give the refs a raise and as for Orr he must be a muslim who like cut heads off and bomb if make fun of a man who did it….Now back to football Take it are leave it first you have refs who are replacements they human so stop blastin america P B Orr if you hate freedom then move to Russia you blank ass…seattle won Green bay was beat buy Goodell refs so Owners best get it are be More blown calls coach’s want to Punch a ref. today..Goodall give the refs the raise they due it!

UPGRAYEDD

September 25th, 2012
6:19 am

Bad officiating hurts both sides. It also helps both sides. If GB wanted a victory, it needed to score more points. Blame the officials all you want, it’s warranted, but winning and losing is on YOU.

BadmoJoe

September 25th, 2012
6:28 am

OMG Burgers and Frys. Please go back to school and work on your writing skills!

Buford '78

September 25th, 2012
6:39 am

Why is the NFL 100% to blame? The refs have the option of going back to work. Can anybody really make the case that they are underpaid with poor working conditions? Give me a break.

phil

September 25th, 2012
6:42 am

Whine, whine, whine……

Get lives.

American Sportsman

September 25th, 2012
6:45 am

I compare it to a bad beat in poker that puts you out of tournament. Yes, it’s a bad beat, but you shouldn’t have gotten yourself in the situation to lose like that, GB.

Buford '78

September 25th, 2012
6:46 am

Besides, if it causes Green Bay to lose, it just feels right :-)

BadmoJoe

September 25th, 2012
6:49 am

@ Buford. The NFL has locked out the Refs, The Refs did not go on strike.

The Truth

September 25th, 2012
6:53 am

Don’t care, so what.

The replay official is an EX-ref, like the ones who are currently arguing that they deserve another $110,000 for making calls on these kind of plays.

So who cares that Green Bay lost the call, they’re a bunch of babies who feel a sense of entitlement.

Paddy

September 25th, 2012
6:56 am

Rickey……….you say pro football is all about the $ now. NOW!!!!!! Pro sports has been all about the $ since the late 1940’s. WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pro sports are not non-profit organizations. It is all about the $, thank god, or their would be no sports or anything else for that matter.

Gator Jim Bob

September 25th, 2012
7:08 am

OMG, Burgers n Frys is at least ambidextrious! He had to be choking his chicken with one hand while trying to type his comments with his free hand. His comments are as unbelievable as the ruling in the end zone!!

Hmmmm

September 25th, 2012
7:12 am

Just saw replay and can’t understand the fuss. Right call as “right call” said. There was a good push in the back prior to reception that went unnoticed but in those types of plays that often goes unnoticed by NFL refs also.

Who Cares?

September 25th, 2012
7:24 am

Well, seems to be no different than our current political atmosphere. One’s official’s an obvious Democrat, and the other obviously a Republican. Both saw the same play, but perceived it differently and called it that way. One’s wrong, and one’s right. Sound familiar?

jeffrey d

September 25th, 2012
7:27 am

It’s not like this was an obvious and easy call. And maybe Green Bay should score more than 12 points so the game won’t have to be decided by a freak play at the end.

RGB

September 25th, 2012
7:29 am

Nut jobs abound!

PB Orr uses this incident to indict and equate capitalism, Fox News, and the Klan.

Might as well throw the Democrat party in there too since they were founding members of the Klan.

Read all about it in Ann Coulter’s new book “MUGGED: RACIAL DEMAGOGUERY FROM THE SEVENTIES TO OBAMA.”

And you’re welcome.

jeannie c

September 25th, 2012
7:30 am

The NFL is offering an inferior product. If ever the shield is to be protected, it is now!

mayhem is coming

September 25th, 2012
7:30 am

Aaron Rogers- bleat,bleat,bleat shoulda had your team in position to not being affected by the final play of the game. Go stand in the corner and do your stupid touchdown move or whatever that is; or pelvic thrust that you cloned from Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Drew Breas can go to the corner also for his excessive whinning. GB and NO play eachother this weekend; somebody should be 0-4. This could be the longest game of the season with much crying and knashing of teeth

This makes me smile

September 25th, 2012
7:35 am

Imagine if there was instant replay and the internet back when Reagan replaced all the air traffic controllers. Not with people that actually knew the game but raw recruits. But no one died then, and no one will die now.

ObamaRefs

September 25th, 2012
7:35 am

You see how bad these refs are? Wait until ObamaCare kicks in, and govnmt makes your health care decisions!!

joebiten

September 25th, 2012
7:38 am

prez o buma to announce at a noon press call, that this is all bush’s fault.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
7:40 am

Whining is my life. I’m a Tech fan, aren’t I?

Ronin

September 25th, 2012
7:41 am

Bad calls happen, even with the regular refs, maybe not as many, but sometimes it goes your way, sometimes not.
Funny how everyone is getting rich off the fans in pro team sports like football, basketball and baseball.
Yet the majority of players are definitely no role models for today’s youth.

Call It Like It Is

September 25th, 2012
7:42 am

Quit your whineing Rogers. It came down to one play and it didnt go your way. Of course you spent much of the game on your back. Who’s fault is that?

HERE COMES THE JUDGE!

September 25th, 2012
7:45 am

Just a minute…the refs didn’t sack the GB QB or stop many of the other plays that Seattle’s “D” put on GB…stop whinning about ONE play. We can only guess that if the regular refs were officiating, the call would have been different. TV has a much different angle than the refs on the ground…could the offensive inteference would have been called by the regular refs…speculation, speculation!! Any good sports junkie knows that one play in ANY sport does not win or lose a game. GB is a good team…Seattle had already beaten “Jerry’s Team” and were on an emotional high. My opinion is that GB should have scored more points…the bottom line in any win in any sport…score more points than the other team. CASE CLOSED

obama SIN LADEN

September 25th, 2012
7:47 am

one way to help help the real refs with more income,etc… let the real refs make STUPID commercials like some “pro players” are doing to have more income and attention..surely they could do just as bad and make the advertizer look just as stupid.

Wait a Minute

September 25th, 2012
7:47 am

Are you friggin kidding me ? I missed the end of the game last night, so I wake up to all of this hysteria about the refs. this morning.

Now I see that this play happens on a hail mary as time expires. That goes on the Packs DB, on a hail mary with time running out his job is to KNOCK THAT BALL TO THE GROUND. He was worried about padding his stats and he got burned.

I’ve seen that happen before with the regular refs, but if he knocks the ball to the ground, it’s game over. This should be a teacable moment for a DB that should know his job, instead it’s a bitch fest about how the refs blew a call.

Down Range Joe

September 25th, 2012
7:48 am

Stop watching FOX News Burger n Frys, you’re brainwashed.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
7:51 am

I was surprised to read an article from the summer on Fox Sports that said the refs wanted just an 8% raise to $6000 a game while the NFL offered just a 2.5% raise. Before I read that I thought there must be a lot more money involved. Did the NFL at least offer to split the difference to 5% or 5.25%?
As I said in the first post on here this morning, the NFL will be lucky if the refs do not pull their 8% raise off the table and ask for a lot more. People defending the refs probably have Tate in their fantasy lineup. (Kidding)

Taxi Smith

September 25th, 2012
7:53 am

None of this amounts to a sack of you know what anyway. Go to work you slackers.

(zombie) Larry Munson

September 25th, 2012
7:54 am

who gives a shi*…its a freaking game…if the old refs were not a bunch of greedy turds none of this would be going on…give these new guys a break…*Lindsey Scott*

jerry

September 25th, 2012
7:54 am

The ruling on the field of touchdown was confirmed upstairs by replay official Howard Slavin, a fulltime National Football League employee.

That was the worst part.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
7:59 am

@Wait A Minute.
Last year the Jags followed your procedure and knocked the Hail Mary pass but it went right to a Texan who scored. I agree though that knocking the ball is usually the best procedure.
What made this worse than the usual blown call is there were two bad calls on the same play: the uncalled offensive interference as well as the pick called a TD. Tate did not grab the ball until the defender was on the ground.
Look, if the athletes deserve their insane multimillion dollar pay then the refs certainly are not far out if line asking for a reasonable raise to 6K a game.

chris ward

September 25th, 2012
8:00 am

The Refs in the booth are not replacement refs. Different union.

Dung Particle

September 25th, 2012
8:01 am

I can’t stand crybabies who want games to be won or lost based on referees. Play the damn game and the best team will win. Stop blaming the refs! They’re not perfect, but they’re doing their best. If the Packers were going to win that game they had plenty of time to do it. Bunch of excuse-making whiners.
“The referees stole the g-a-a-a-a-m-e!” Man up, shut up and play football.

Top Row Dawg

September 25th, 2012
8:01 am

Ask yourself honestly if that was an NBA game, would there, could there be grounds for a jump ball call? Tate had a hand between the ball and Jennings chest, he got his outside hand on the ball before they both hit the ground. Jennings never NEVER had sole and clear possession of the ball.

It may not be popular, but a jump ball is a TD under NFL rules.

It was certainly a great call for the Falcons. Aaron Rodgers is 0 and 5 on Monday night football. Georgia whooped his little brother and Clemons whooped him all night.

Saints are 0-3 Green Bay is 1-2. Rejoice 3-0 Falcon fans.

It may not be a popular call with ESPN ( I thought Steve Young was gonna cry) but it wasn’t the worst call of all time. The replay official is not a replacement ref and he didn’t overturn call.

Tangent on Steve Young….reminded me of time Georgia played BYU and Georgia players later admitted advancing a ball under the pile on a close 4th down spot that enabled Georgia to eventually win the game. Sometimes you get away with stuff.

Now the Jasper Sanks fumble against Tech, or the AJ Green celebration against LSU, those were bad calls.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
8:01 am

Goodell should be banned from his job for a year for not working a deal with the refs for a 6% raise.
Good for the geese, good for the gander.