Discuss the controversial Monday Night Football finish

The Seattle Seahawks’ prayer was answered late Monday night. The Green Bay Packers may pray they never have to play in a game with replacement officials on the field again.

Photo tweeted  by WSB-TV's Zach Klein showing officials making contradictory calls on the game-deciding play.

Photo tweeted by WSB-TV's Zach Klein showing officials making contradictory calls on the game-deciding play.

Seattle beat Green Bay 14-12 on a disputed 24-yard touchdown pass as time expired at almost midnight.

Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson threw the ball into a mob of players in the end zone and the pass appeared to have been intercepted by the Packers’ M.D. Jennings, who had both hands on the ball. Seattle’s Golden Tate reached in and also got a hand in the ball and players from both teams wrestled for possession.

One nearby official signalled touchdown at the same time another official indicated Green Bay had the ball and that he was calling a touchback.

After a replay review, the game officially ended 10 minutes later but only after both teams were brought back onto the field for the required extra point. Some Packers players were seen searching for their helmets to complete the game.

Referee Wayne Elliott told a pool reporter after the game that the play was ruled as a simultaneous possession that was confirmed by the replay official.

“They both possessed it,” Elliott said.

But TV replays also showed Seattle’s Tate also illegally shoved Green Bay’s Sam Shields out of the way before leaping to try to catch the pass.

Replacement officials are being used by the NFL during a labor dispute with the regular officials, who were locked out by the league in June. Even before Monday night’s game, the players’ union had called on the 32 team owners to end the lockout, saying it is compromising the integrity of the game.

“Don’t ask me a question about the officials,” Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy said after Monday’s game. “I’ve never seen anything like that in all my years in football.”

Packers guard T.J. Lang was more blunt, tweeting that the Packers were robbed “by the refs. Thanks NFL.”

The Packers got support from others on Twitter as well.

– Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman tweeted “These games are a joke.”

– NBA MVP LeBron James tweeted “I simply just LOVE the NFL too much to see these mistakes. I’m sick like I just played for the Packers”

– Wisconsin State Senator Jon Erpenbach tweeted NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell’s office phone number, saying in a separate tweet that if the ending Monday did not spark an end to the lockout “this season will be a joke.”

The bizarre finish overshadowed a four-sack performance by former University of Georgia player Chris Clemons, who now plays for the Seahawks. All four came in the first half, tying an NFL record.

Read the latest on the game here. Read more about the growing controversy with the use of replacement officials here.

181 comments Add your comment

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
1:50 am

The replacement refs concluded a night of bad calls with a terrible one. The real NFL refs must be delighted.
If I was advising them , I would tell them to take their offer of an 8% raise to 6K per game off the table. Now they have the owners right where they want them and they should ask for 10K a game.
The last play was a Packer pick and not a Seattle TD.
What a joke the NFL may become with these clowns making the calls.

NFLfanboycott

September 25th, 2012
2:06 am

Enough is enough. It’s time we, as fans, take control of our game and show that we won’t stand for this. http://www.nflfanboycott.com

Terry B.

September 25th, 2012
2:33 am

Couldn’t agree more with above comments. Somebody, somewhere is making $$ off this debacle. It’s all about the money- trying to follow the paper trail is fruitless so far!

Humbug

September 25th, 2012
3:09 am

Everybody seems to be upset with the replacement officials except these same officials and the NFL upper management. The replacements are doing the best they can but they are not qualified to call NFL games. They are placing pro football on the same level as pro wrestling.

Ricky

September 25th, 2012
4:11 am

It’s an election year. If there were no replacement Ref’s, there would be no football. Think of all those people who’d be out of a job while the real ref’s and the NFL try to work something out. What really gets me is all the complaining by those who are getting paychecks! Coaches, Players, Announcers, etc. If there were no scab ref’s, then they wouldn’t be getting a paycheck – period. Football has become nothing more than a money sport, like all the other “sports”. Like Terry B. said earlier, trying to follow the $$ Trail is fruitless.

king

September 25th, 2012
4:17 am

I have never thought i would see a QB throw a interception and win the game till last night game. Roger Goodell always talk about the image of the NFL. That image is now damaged. The owners are all billionaires and treating the referee like they don’t exist. The integrity of this game is now questioned and there is lack of leadership in the NFL. This is a professional football. Not NCAA. Everyone saw that Tate push the Greenbay packer defensive Player before making the attempt to catch the ball. That means that call should be offensive pass interference. If the ref call offensive pass interference call, this outcome of the game will be different. I saw that Jennings was the one who caught the ball with 2 hands at the peak of the catch and hold the ball with two hands all the way to the ground. I never saw Tate had possession of the ball from the start to the finish. In fact, Tate’s right arm was on Jennings’ arm, not the ball. The only time i saw that Tate touch the ball was when he was on the ground. Tate had one had while Jennings had two hands. The 2 refereres look at each other and one call touchback and one call touchdown. The people in the replay booth who are not replacements agree with the referee.

P B Orr

September 25th, 2012
4:22 am

That’s corporate America, the most vile organization in American history, and that includes the Klan and Fox News. It’s 2 million bucks for the refs vs 9,000 million in revenue. 1/4500th. But that’s too much for these greedy Shylock beef flautists.

Old Snarkey

September 25th, 2012
5:06 am

Puzzles me why the ref couldn’t see the reception by Green Bay and he just reconfirmed the play as a touchdown. I think Kindergartners could do better than that. That was totally pitiful. Worst play calling that I have ever seen and I have seen a lot of games in my life.

J Goldsmith

September 25th, 2012
5:18 am

I say the NFL needs to “Man-Up” tomorrow and actually CHANGE the outcome of the game to correctly say that Green Bay won the game and not Seattle! Seattle did NOT score a touchdown on the last play of the game, Green Bay clearly intercepted the ball and thus should have maintained their lead and should be declared the victor! The substitute refs got it wrong and the re-play officials got it wrong! America knows and the NFL needs to reverse the outcome as it was presented at the end of regulation play on tv. (Just like a college team is sometimes stripped of winning records and titles when latter evidence shows their program cheated, the NFL needs to man-up and reverse this outcome for the record books!) NOW!

P B Orr

September 25th, 2012
5:24 am

What made it even more remarkable was the fact that Tate just MUGGED the Packers’ defender before the ball got close to anyone – it was one of the most obvious cases of offensive pass interference you’ll ever see. Without doubt the worst call I’ve ever seen in any sport.

drew

September 25th, 2012
5:53 am

Here’s what I don’t get…you’d think the owners would be able to look at the current situation and consider what their players, coaches and GM’s think.

What do the Arthur Blanks of the NFL think about what’s happening to their “product”? You’d think these billionaire owners might tell NFL management to get a deal done. Their product is suffering, but apparently, as long as tickets are sold and people are watching, the NFL doesn’t give a rats-ass what happens on the field. WTF? I mean…come on man!

Felix

September 25th, 2012
5:54 am

everyone seems to forget that if we didn’t have replacement officals we wouldn’t be having any football now! I might add that the announcers in some of these are terriable & have no clue as to the rules; I hear no one screaming to replace them. You take what you have and move on.

right answer

September 25th, 2012
5:58 am

It was the right call, MD can’t establish possession with 2 feet off the ground.

We see one hand catches all the time. Tie goes to the offense.

Thomas

September 25th, 2012
6:01 am

After futher review, the runner did not touch second base – Touchdown Celtics

Burgers n frys

September 25th, 2012
6:17 am

First Fox News did not give game to seattle it was NFL commish who not give the refs a raise and as for Orr he must be a muslim who like cut heads off and bomb if make fun of a man who did it….Now back to football Take it are leave it first you have refs who are replacements they human so stop blastin america P B Orr if you hate freedom then move to Russia you blank ass…seattle won Green bay was beat buy Goodell refs so Owners best get it are be More blown calls coach’s want to Punch a ref. today..Goodall give the refs the raise they due it!

UPGRAYEDD

September 25th, 2012
6:19 am

Bad officiating hurts both sides. It also helps both sides. If GB wanted a victory, it needed to score more points. Blame the officials all you want, it’s warranted, but winning and losing is on YOU.

BadmoJoe

September 25th, 2012
6:28 am

OMG Burgers and Frys. Please go back to school and work on your writing skills!

Buford '78

September 25th, 2012
6:39 am

Why is the NFL 100% to blame? The refs have the option of going back to work. Can anybody really make the case that they are underpaid with poor working conditions? Give me a break.

phil

September 25th, 2012
6:42 am

Whine, whine, whine……

Get lives.

American Sportsman

September 25th, 2012
6:45 am

I compare it to a bad beat in poker that puts you out of tournament. Yes, it’s a bad beat, but you shouldn’t have gotten yourself in the situation to lose like that, GB.

Buford '78

September 25th, 2012
6:46 am

Besides, if it causes Green Bay to lose, it just feels right :-)

BadmoJoe

September 25th, 2012
6:49 am

@ Buford. The NFL has locked out the Refs, The Refs did not go on strike.

The Truth

September 25th, 2012
6:53 am

Don’t care, so what.

The replay official is an EX-ref, like the ones who are currently arguing that they deserve another $110,000 for making calls on these kind of plays.

So who cares that Green Bay lost the call, they’re a bunch of babies who feel a sense of entitlement.

Paddy

September 25th, 2012
6:56 am

Rickey……….you say pro football is all about the $ now. NOW!!!!!! Pro sports has been all about the $ since the late 1940’s. WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pro sports are not non-profit organizations. It is all about the $, thank god, or their would be no sports or anything else for that matter.

Gator Jim Bob

September 25th, 2012
7:08 am

OMG, Burgers n Frys is at least ambidextrious! He had to be choking his chicken with one hand while trying to type his comments with his free hand. His comments are as unbelievable as the ruling in the end zone!!

Hmmmm

September 25th, 2012
7:12 am

Just saw replay and can’t understand the fuss. Right call as “right call” said. There was a good push in the back prior to reception that went unnoticed but in those types of plays that often goes unnoticed by NFL refs also.

Who Cares?

September 25th, 2012
7:24 am

Well, seems to be no different than our current political atmosphere. One’s official’s an obvious Democrat, and the other obviously a Republican. Both saw the same play, but perceived it differently and called it that way. One’s wrong, and one’s right. Sound familiar?

jeffrey d

September 25th, 2012
7:27 am

It’s not like this was an obvious and easy call. And maybe Green Bay should score more than 12 points so the game won’t have to be decided by a freak play at the end.

RGB

September 25th, 2012
7:29 am

Nut jobs abound!

PB Orr uses this incident to indict and equate capitalism, Fox News, and the Klan.

Might as well throw the Democrat party in there too since they were founding members of the Klan.

Read all about it in Ann Coulter’s new book “MUGGED: RACIAL DEMAGOGUERY FROM THE SEVENTIES TO OBAMA.”

And you’re welcome.

jeannie c

September 25th, 2012
7:30 am

The NFL is offering an inferior product. If ever the shield is to be protected, it is now!

mayhem is coming

September 25th, 2012
7:30 am

Aaron Rogers- bleat,bleat,bleat shoulda had your team in position to not being affected by the final play of the game. Go stand in the corner and do your stupid touchdown move or whatever that is; or pelvic thrust that you cloned from Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Drew Breas can go to the corner also for his excessive whinning. GB and NO play eachother this weekend; somebody should be 0-4. This could be the longest game of the season with much crying and knashing of teeth

This makes me smile

September 25th, 2012
7:35 am

Imagine if there was instant replay and the internet back when Reagan replaced all the air traffic controllers. Not with people that actually knew the game but raw recruits. But no one died then, and no one will die now.

ObamaRefs

September 25th, 2012
7:35 am

You see how bad these refs are? Wait until ObamaCare kicks in, and govnmt makes your health care decisions!!

joebiten

September 25th, 2012
7:38 am

prez o buma to announce at a noon press call, that this is all bush’s fault.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
7:40 am

Whining is my life. I’m a Tech fan, aren’t I?

Ronin

September 25th, 2012
7:41 am

Bad calls happen, even with the regular refs, maybe not as many, but sometimes it goes your way, sometimes not.
Funny how everyone is getting rich off the fans in pro team sports like football, basketball and baseball.
Yet the majority of players are definitely no role models for today’s youth.

Call It Like It Is

September 25th, 2012
7:42 am

Quit your whineing Rogers. It came down to one play and it didnt go your way. Of course you spent much of the game on your back. Who’s fault is that?

HERE COMES THE JUDGE!

September 25th, 2012
7:45 am

Just a minute…the refs didn’t sack the GB QB or stop many of the other plays that Seattle’s “D” put on GB…stop whinning about ONE play. We can only guess that if the regular refs were officiating, the call would have been different. TV has a much different angle than the refs on the ground…could the offensive inteference would have been called by the regular refs…speculation, speculation!! Any good sports junkie knows that one play in ANY sport does not win or lose a game. GB is a good team…Seattle had already beaten “Jerry’s Team” and were on an emotional high. My opinion is that GB should have scored more points…the bottom line in any win in any sport…score more points than the other team. CASE CLOSED

obama SIN LADEN

September 25th, 2012
7:47 am

one way to help help the real refs with more income,etc… let the real refs make STUPID commercials like some “pro players” are doing to have more income and attention..surely they could do just as bad and make the advertizer look just as stupid.

Wait a Minute

September 25th, 2012
7:47 am

Are you friggin kidding me ? I missed the end of the game last night, so I wake up to all of this hysteria about the refs. this morning.

Now I see that this play happens on a hail mary as time expires. That goes on the Packs DB, on a hail mary with time running out his job is to KNOCK THAT BALL TO THE GROUND. He was worried about padding his stats and he got burned.

I’ve seen that happen before with the regular refs, but if he knocks the ball to the ground, it’s game over. This should be a teacable moment for a DB that should know his job, instead it’s a bitch fest about how the refs blew a call.

Down Range Joe

September 25th, 2012
7:48 am

Stop watching FOX News Burger n Frys, you’re brainwashed.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
7:51 am

I was surprised to read an article from the summer on Fox Sports that said the refs wanted just an 8% raise to $6000 a game while the NFL offered just a 2.5% raise. Before I read that I thought there must be a lot more money involved. Did the NFL at least offer to split the difference to 5% or 5.25%?
As I said in the first post on here this morning, the NFL will be lucky if the refs do not pull their 8% raise off the table and ask for a lot more. People defending the refs probably have Tate in their fantasy lineup. (Kidding)

Taxi Smith

September 25th, 2012
7:53 am

None of this amounts to a sack of you know what anyway. Go to work you slackers.

(zombie) Larry Munson

September 25th, 2012
7:54 am

who gives a shi*…its a freaking game…if the old refs were not a bunch of greedy turds none of this would be going on…give these new guys a break…*Lindsey Scott*

jerry

September 25th, 2012
7:54 am

The ruling on the field of touchdown was confirmed upstairs by replay official Howard Slavin, a fulltime National Football League employee.

That was the worst part.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
7:59 am

@Wait A Minute.
Last year the Jags followed your procedure and knocked the Hail Mary pass but it went right to a Texan who scored. I agree though that knocking the ball is usually the best procedure.
What made this worse than the usual blown call is there were two bad calls on the same play: the uncalled offensive interference as well as the pick called a TD. Tate did not grab the ball until the defender was on the ground.
Look, if the athletes deserve their insane multimillion dollar pay then the refs certainly are not far out if line asking for a reasonable raise to 6K a game.

chris ward

September 25th, 2012
8:00 am

The Refs in the booth are not replacement refs. Different union.

Dung Particle

September 25th, 2012
8:01 am

I can’t stand crybabies who want games to be won or lost based on referees. Play the damn game and the best team will win. Stop blaming the refs! They’re not perfect, but they’re doing their best. If the Packers were going to win that game they had plenty of time to do it. Bunch of excuse-making whiners.
“The referees stole the g-a-a-a-a-m-e!” Man up, shut up and play football.

Top Row Dawg

September 25th, 2012
8:01 am

Ask yourself honestly if that was an NBA game, would there, could there be grounds for a jump ball call? Tate had a hand between the ball and Jennings chest, he got his outside hand on the ball before they both hit the ground. Jennings never NEVER had sole and clear possession of the ball.

It may not be popular, but a jump ball is a TD under NFL rules.

It was certainly a great call for the Falcons. Aaron Rodgers is 0 and 5 on Monday night football. Georgia whooped his little brother and Clemons whooped him all night.

Saints are 0-3 Green Bay is 1-2. Rejoice 3-0 Falcon fans.

It may not be a popular call with ESPN ( I thought Steve Young was gonna cry) but it wasn’t the worst call of all time. The replay official is not a replacement ref and he didn’t overturn call.

Tangent on Steve Young….reminded me of time Georgia played BYU and Georgia players later admitted advancing a ball under the pile on a close 4th down spot that enabled Georgia to eventually win the game. Sometimes you get away with stuff.

Now the Jasper Sanks fumble against Tech, or the AJ Green celebration against LSU, those were bad calls.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
8:01 am

Goodell should be banned from his job for a year for not working a deal with the refs for a 6% raise.
Good for the geese, good for the gander.

Brandy

September 25th, 2012
8:02 am

As a female who has never played football, even I know that you KNOCK DOWN THE BALL on plays like that. As a Packers fan, this hurts. But the OL looked like a high school team in the first half and the offense never got going. Yes, Tate pushed people out of the way. Simultaneous possession can be argued, but at the end of the day, if the ball gets knocked down instead of caught, Pack wins.

Dung Particle

September 25th, 2012
8:02 am

You people whine more than Republicans in an election year!

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
8:05 am

@Top Row Dawg.
So if it is your team that gets cheated, then it is a bad call.
If it is a team you don’t like, then it’s funny.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
8:09 am

We do agree on something, Dung Particle.
You named yourself right.

byron

September 25th, 2012
8:09 am

The Replay Officials are from the NFL & not a part of the Replacement Refs!

commoncents

September 25th, 2012
8:09 am

PB Orr @4:22 – “That’s corporate America, the most vile organization in American history”

Not quite… that’s Unionized America- free to hold the rest of America hostage by demanding more, then refusing to actually do the work until the get what they want. In corporate America, (if their demands were outrageous) they would be shown the door and NOT replaced with 8th string, previously-fired-for-incompetence refs.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
8:10 am

We do agree on something, Dung Particle.
You named yourself accurately.

Steve

September 25th, 2012
8:13 am

Clearly looked as though GB intercepted the ball to me. GB DB had the ball cradled in both arms in the air and all the way to the groud. Seattle player had one hand on the ball and was reaching around the DB’s body to get that

Falcon 228

September 25th, 2012
8:14 am

Pay the refs. Fire Goodell. Get a commissioner that can make decisions in the best interest of the game. Not the owners or the players or the officials.

Pr

September 25th, 2012
8:14 am

Goodell is an ass. He needs to be replaced. He is a complete failure as commissioner.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
8:15 am

John Madden gave a ref a compliment one time. He said when that ref was doing the game, he felt a lot more comfortable.
Forget the call folks.
It nuts for the NFL to worry over a few hundred per game ref with the billions that are being made.
Goodell has been heavy-handed from start to finish of his tenure as commish.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
8:16 am

@Pr and Falcon 228.
Agreed

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
8:19 am

Some seem to be saying,” too bad for Green Bay” because they are a fan of another team.
Yet I suspect they’d be among the whinners if it happened to their team.

BigJakeIce

September 25th, 2012
8:19 am

The replacement refs, I think we can agree, are mediocre at best. With all of the press coverage, they are likely under tremendous pressure to err on the side of caution, which means they cannot do their job. The calls last night were atrocious, especially the pass interference that should never have been called, to the offensive pass interference on the last play that apparently never gets called in a Hail Mary situation. The last play was clearly an interception, and the fact that the ref was standing right there and still got it wrong, confirms the fact that the owners and the league need to get their stuff together THIS INSTANT (thanks to Norm McDonald in the Safe Auto ad), and fix this debacle before it gets any worse – and yes, it will get worse!

omg

September 25th, 2012
8:21 am

The only difference in that call is that it went against Green Bay instead of teams the ESPN commentators dont like. The Falcons always got bad calls such as GB throwing a bomb down the sideline and over head of the GB player but the GB player would stop and let the Falcon play bump him. Flag thrown pass interference! It is great to see these ESPN elite teams get the calls called against them. I like the new refs. I hope the strike continues.

Eisendawg

September 25th, 2012
8:22 am

Please give Burgers n frys a break. He is a replacement blogger.

Bizarro World

September 25th, 2012
8:33 am

I am done watching the NFL til the real refs comeback. If this keeps up we’ll be seeing Detroit and Seattle in the Super Bowl.

ParanoidAndroid

September 25th, 2012
8:33 am

The ruling on the field was confirmed because you can’t review possesion on that play.

rjk

September 25th, 2012
8:35 am

OK, the refs got it wrong. It’s a bad call. All I am going to say is watch the England vs Argentina 1986 World cup game. This was a HUGE game. Hand of God. Everyone knew it was a bad call. Everyone! Yet it stood and England lost the game. Did England like it? Nope. But you live with it, and redeem yourself (2002 World Cup)

DHD

September 25th, 2012
8:37 am

The players blow plays ALL the time and get paid millions to do it. I can understand fans complaining because we have always complained about refs and umps. (see CB Bucknor) But, the players just need to shut up. Somebody should do a video of all their blown plays in that one game last night.

ParanoidAndroid

September 25th, 2012
8:38 am

With all these blown calls, why is no one talking about possible mob influence on any of these games. As a soccer fan, I am getting an eerie familiar feeling. These refs will not be employed by the league in a few weeks and will go back to their regular part-time jobs reffing for some high school. A cash bonus to fix a game seems highly tempting.

observer

September 25th, 2012
8:39 am

Have you noticed how it is only the losing teams that are complaining about the refereeing? Too many “loser” coaches (like John Fox) are using officiating as an excuse for their results. It is also kind of refreshing to see games where offensive holding isn’t called on every other play, and block in the back isn’t called on 90% of kick returns. At least the replacements don’t act like the fans come to games to watch them officiate. Since they have review of plays there is no reason for a bad call to stand. Problem is, griping coaches and fans still don’t agree after replays confirm the call.

ParanoidAndroid

September 25th, 2012
8:40 am

@rjk. lol. I don’t think many on this AJC blog will remember the 86 world cup game. btw. Maradona IS god.

Harvey D. Pooka

September 25th, 2012
8:43 am

All tema have to deal with the same circumstances. Stop the whining and play the darn game. If played properly, the game(s) would not hinge on one final play. {The only thing needing fixing is the time it take for replay officials to review plays – 10 minutes is unacceptible.)

Chris

September 25th, 2012
8:44 am

Who cares! Don’t the fans get tired of:Play is under further review? The networks like it because more advertising. Pro football has gotten way to expensive to go see live and way to boring to watch on t.v.It’s like one big infomertial with a few short messages from our sponsor the N.F.L.

zwih

September 25th, 2012
8:49 am

Lol. Love to see crybaby pro athletes angry. Refs are doing the best they can. It’s hard to criticize a job that I know I couldn’t do better.

Mel A. Tonin

September 25th, 2012
8:49 am

Just proves that some days you’re the windshield and some days you’re the bug!

Other topics

September 25th, 2012
8:52 am

1. Pete Carroll looks like an idiot, celebrating.
2. Golden Tate is a liar.
3. Seattle Quarterback has Tebow type stats and commentators talk about how great he is.

strib1

September 25th, 2012
8:53 am

why just blame nfl. greedy refs are just as much the blame. $$$$ that the problem.. my boss says work for ten dollars a hr. i work or i quit, simple as that….. its not one sided , so dont worry , be happy!! dont make it close and u dont have to worry. go falcons!!!!!!

Rick

September 25th, 2012
8:53 am

Gee, I looks like we have a little whine in Wisconsin to go with their cheese. The replacement refs are doing the best they can and are calling bad calls on both sides of the ball. Move on, people. Nothing to see here.

Bubbles

September 25th, 2012
8:54 am

Meanwhile, we have “bumps in the road” in the Middle East, and Bibi is beating the war drums, ready to invade Iran. The “Arab Spring” may soon turn into a nuclear winter, and our military is running drills in our neighborhoods (in LA, StL, and MN so far, and yours could be next!).
NDAA is passed, FEMA camps built, and the DHS has been arming itself to the teeth.

This NFL garbage is nothing but a mass distraction. Billions of dollars and regular folks personally invested in a farce. Go team!

zwih

September 25th, 2012
8:54 am

Hey mel a tonin, you got that right. Now, I am feeling a little tired, not sure why. Gotta go take a nap.

Thrash

September 25th, 2012
8:57 am

Who really cares? More important things to worry about in the world.

GTJohn

September 25th, 2012
8:57 am

If I were an NFL owner, my team would not be on the field until the real refs return. These guys are not even close. Reminds me of when I refereed my first 7-8 year old basketball game. There is no way fhis game should show up as a win for Seattle. At least 3 obvious blown calls on the last drive for Seattle – all of which would have nullified the TD or the drive itself.
Someone is going to get a career ending injury or worse with these people who are refereeing now. They should at least get the college refs from the area to do the games.

Sideline Dude

September 25th, 2012
8:58 am

Maybe the NBA should have replacement refs this season. It’s a joke, too.

cloudodust

September 25th, 2012
8:58 am

Norma Rae would call the replacement ref’s Scabs. The replacement ref’s have my pity, not my scorn. It’s not their fault but they could do the game a favor by refusing to call them. It’s squarely on the owners, the players union, and tv. The NFL as of today is like a knock-off product made in China. Sad to me is that IF the Falcons continue on the current hot streak, will it be tainted because of replacement refs..?

David

September 25th, 2012
8:59 am

You know what I am tired of seeing coaches and players whine about refs to get fans to overlook their own crappy play. Guess what if Green Bay had played better they would have won, they did not they lost. The officals in the replay both are the normal officals who are in the replay booths and not replacements. Even the non-replacement replay offial called it the same way the replacement refs did. Oh what about the push off, Tate pushed off. Really how many times do the normal refs call offensive pass interferance. Also per NFL rules on a hail mary it’s a jump ball, player contact does not matter. Of course none of this matters to teams, players, and coaches trying to make excuses for poor play.

On My Way

September 25th, 2012
9:00 am

They’re no different from the regular refs. They all make bad calls. I saw a game when a Steelers’ running back fumbled the ball into the end zone and the Dolphins recovered. One ref initially ruled a touchdown prior to the ball crossing the end zone. Result – they gave the ball back to the Steelers on the 3 yard line where they kicked a field goal to win the game.

conspiracy

September 25th, 2012
9:01 am

byron “The Replay Officials are from the NFL & not a part of the Replacement Refs!”

I wonder if the replay officials knew it was the wrong call, but decided not to over turn it, so the replacement refs don’t look bad. I know it’s far fetch, but you never know!

bigdawg88

September 25th, 2012
9:01 am

What’s really bad about this is that it gives the real refs even more leverage. Jacket Detective is right, the refs ought to increase their demands now. Man, it must suck to be a replacement ref right now. Bet they probably tell people they scrap poop for a living rather than tell them their real jobs.

zwih

September 25th, 2012
9:03 am

On my way, you know, that really is true. They aren’t that much different than the regular refs. I suppose the regulars are just more used to dealing with maniacal egos a little better. All in all, it’s fun to see coaches and pro athletes outraged. It really is.

bill

September 25th, 2012
9:05 am

Does anyone know what the strike is all about? The holdup? The referees want a pension plan. Do you give a pension plan to guys who work less than a 90 days a year and have full time jobs on the side? I don’t think sol! I fully support the NFL and holding up a settlement.

I’ve always felt in the three major sports that NFL referees were the inferior lot. Both baseball and basketball have superior crews (they are full time). The replacements are doing the best they can!
Get off their backs!!!!

GTJohn

September 25th, 2012
9:07 am

What about the pass interference call that gave Seattle a first down which was an OBVIOUS offensive pass interference.
You say if Green Bay had played better – well when you play well, defend the play and then the call goes the wrong way, it just takes something out you and your desire to play better. The GB defender could not have defended the pass interference play any better – he even had a chance for an interception until the offensive player jumped on with both hands and pushed off to break up the interception.
A blown call every now and then is expected but these guys are making a career of it during each game and they are losing complete control of the players and coaches.

333

September 25th, 2012
9:12 am

Nightmare? Give me a break!!! You get out there and try to do what these refs are doing. Remember–this is play for pay football—The game was played–that’s all that matters.

Brotha O

September 25th, 2012
9:17 am

…cry babies….what about al those sacks Rodgers had?

Heisenberg

September 25th, 2012
9:17 am

While there is no question that call was horrible, Packers have some culpability here. The Packer defender was higher than the receiver and got his hands on the ball first. Somewhere Tom Jackson is yelling “KNOCK IT DOWN!!!!!!!”. If the defender does what is taught and practiced, the referees are not placed in that position to have the chance to make the wrong call. If the defender spikes it like a volleyball, then the offensive pass interference penalty (if called) would be declined and game over.

Brotha O

September 25th, 2012
9:18 am

Rodgers was sacked about fifteen times wasn’t he? what do the Packers have to say about that?

Really?

September 25th, 2012
9:19 am

Neither one of these teams are a favorite of mine…but this is not what this is about -
we’re talking about GOOD football. The Packers are known for end of game heroics and this game was no different.

What astounds me is that clown that LIED on national tv when directly asked about his shoving of a player “uh…I don’t know what you’re talking about” –

But the real concern is that sometimes you just have to PAY for experience. The average person on their job wants to be compensated for their knowledge – and if this has shown us anything…it’s that EXPERIENCE matters. Do the real refs get every call right every time…? No. But I mean, we all saw the handwriting on the way when the replacements came in…
They are not up to this level of play – plain and simple.

It’s nice to say “those____________ (fill in the blank with your rival team fans) are just whiners”
but when it comes down to it…the replacements are in over their heads.

What’s going to happen if the replacements stay through to the playoffs…? the Superbowl?

i'm a referee

September 25th, 2012
9:19 am

Why isn’t anyone pointing fingers at the regular officials? I understand they are being locked out but that’s because they refuse to accept the offer of the NFL. NFL has an offer on the table that will increase officials pay by at least 50 percent resulting in some officials making close to $200,000 a year to officiate football. And they have all travel and all expenses paid? Give me a freakin break! The regular offiials are not bigger than the game and they need to wake up and realize they have a pretty good thing going and accept offer.

ceemackin

September 25th, 2012
9:27 am

Do we remember the Oakland, New England game? When Brady fumbled, then the refs talk about a tuck rule. We all know he fumbled. That led New England to the win. Bad calls are going to be made all the time, but your game is decided on one call then your team is not doing what they need to do. They are not going to call a pass interference with only seconds left on the game like basketball refs do not call fouls. The refs are doing the best they can.

jimjones

September 25th, 2012
9:28 am

I can’t believe all of the whiners complaining about owners locking out those poor refs. These are the same referees that make better than $100k for working one day a week for five months and then have the audacity to ask for a raise at a time when the rest of the world feels lucky just to have a job. Then, like the predictable myrmidons you are, you get behind these refs like they’re some kind of poor, working class, underprivileged heroes who, without question, deserve a raise. In the long run, all it will do is drive up the price of professional sports to even higher levels than they already are. Not to mention the effect that the cost of broadcasting rights has on the cost of cable and satellite service, or on a case of beer for those companies that pay to advertise on television.

Yeah, I know your saying it’s only a few thousand bucks per ref, and it really doesn’t matter in the scheme of things, “we just want our first tier refs back,” right? Well, from the owners perspective, the refs are already over-paid, and maybe it’s the owners who are sticking up for the little guy.

bill

September 25th, 2012
9:31 am

Michael Irvin is in the Hall of Fame for pushing off hundreds of times with no call so whats new. Have we forgotten all the calls that have sucked in the past? These guys are mechanically unprepaed but the calls are as correct as they were when the old officials worked the game. Replay shows a close call and the official is not signalling a touchback he is merely signalling a stopped clock. Touchdown or touchback the clock is stopped and the game is over. Perhaps packer fans would like to discuss Jerry Kramer holding Jethro Pugh during the Quarterback sneak in the ice bowl or The field Goal in the Championship game in 1965 that was never inside the upright from the moment it was kicked and was ruled good even tho it was three feet outside the post when it passed by.. Quit whining. If you really want to see amateurs call events watch Nascar or Major League Baseball.

yep

September 25th, 2012
9:32 am

I think by allowing this mess with the refs to continue, Roger Goodell has demonstrated that he doesn’t care about the game of football or the NFL and the he only cares about money and power. He should be immediately removed from his position a NFL commissioner.

Heisenberg

September 25th, 2012
9:35 am

Anyone remember the Vinny Testeverde (then of the Jets) touchdown/non-touchdown that not only decided a game but the playoff fate of another team not involved in the game? I think that one was actually the tipping point to begin using replay the following year.

Forrest Gump

September 25th, 2012
9:36 am

My mama always said, “Stoopid IS as Stoopid DOES”

Heisenberg

September 25th, 2012
9:38 am

That is correct Forrest. And Packer defender did not do the smart thing, He tried for the interception instead of knocking it down.

The Truth

September 25th, 2012
9:41 am

This all goes back to Pres. Bush.

Bama Bill

September 25th, 2012
9:42 am

I think this is the same ref who made the call in the first Bama vs LSU game ? Same rule, but how did they miss the offensive pass “push off” – wow ! Packer back should have knocked the ball down and not attempted a shared interception with the receiver.

Delbert D.

September 25th, 2012
9:45 am

I’ve never liked instant replay. It brings the momentum of the game to a crawl. Technology could be applied in several different ways to solve some of the problems.

doc

September 25th, 2012
9:50 am

jennings caught the ball and tate caught jennings only after a huge offensive interference probably the worst i have ever seen called or un-called.

egregious calls all night like defensive interefrence when the defender had position and was man handled to only have the call go against em.

players know it is time to just toss a coin and see what wont be called.

probably worse in the trenches.

typical example of the arrogance of the elite.

it is all about power and greed. nfl for the usa!

they will come back like our government and the fed by saying dont believe your eyes, just believe what we tell you to believe.

What Really Happened

September 25th, 2012
9:51 am

The ref with the good view called a touchback. The other guy, with a blocked view, saw his buddy’s arms go up and so he wants to get in on the action too and calls touchdown. But oops, his buddy wasn’t calling a touchdown. Now, they’ve got a problem. They huddle. Don’t forget, this is a raucous home Seattle crowd. The refs want to get out in one piece. They make the call on the field a touchdown, thinking the booth can fix it. However, these replacement refs don’t realize, the booth CANNOT overturn a simultaneous possession call. The booth calls down and tells them that. “Oh, crap.” They turn on the mike. “The ruling on the field stands.” And the twitterverse blows up!

Miss Daisy

September 25th, 2012
9:55 am

Hey, being a football ref. ain’t rocket science. The current guys are doing as well at the guys they have replaced. Its a game, just a game, only a game; nobody is going to loose their life, freedom or kids depending on the outcome of a game. It is played, coached, and officiated by humans, who all make mistakes. Its part of the game and always has been. If this sort of thing controls you; GET A LIFE!

xxx

September 25th, 2012
9:58 am

Miss Daisy, loose = not tight, lose = not win. GET A DICTIONARY.

Blue

September 25th, 2012
9:58 am

For you know-it-alls who say “if we didn’t have replacement refs, we wouldn’t have football”; wrong! The refs are locked out, not on strike. They were going to work while negotiating.

Delbert D.

September 25th, 2012
10:00 am

It’s time for an Occupy NFL movement. Along with that, the Packers could walk off the field before kickoff at net weeks’ game and refuse to play in protest to humiliate Goodell. Let’s have some anarchy!

Jst Askn

September 25th, 2012
10:02 am

Best comment of the day award goes to “Mayhem is coming.” HILARIOUS!

Protect the Shield!

September 25th, 2012
10:09 am

Alas…the “shield” has been shat upon.

Wreckem

September 25th, 2012
10:10 am

Bad call. I think everyone is being a little sensitive towards these refs. Regular NFL refs could have made the same mistake and we would have all forgotten about it come Wednesday morning. On the other hand these guys are slowing the game down way too much. It has always been my opinion that if winning or losing a game depends on a single call from a ref then the team did not take care of business on the field. We all saw how GB’s offense played the first half. Awful. Go cry to someone else and win the game on your own.

BadmoJoe

September 25th, 2012
10:12 am

@Bubbles This is a football discussion. Why are you bringing in all the Government conspirencey theories?

drew

September 25th, 2012
10:14 am

You can’t blame the replacement refs…they’re doing the best they can do.

The best analogy I’ve heard on this situation is the substitute teacher analogy…the subs are operating from a position of weakness due to their inexperience and lack of respect from the players, and the players are acting the part of the students, getting away with as much as they can, until their regular teacher comes back.

Buckle-up folks…it’s gonna be a rough ride if management doesn’t fix this.

Chirp

September 25th, 2012
10:16 am

So we have political arguments flaring b/c of a football play. And we have GB haters saying they deserve what they get. And we have the irrelevant “argument” that GB should have won the game earlier so that this play wouldn’t matter. Without trying to replay the game or blame Obamacare, what we have here is a football play. At that point, the game was what it was, and this play decided the game. The pass was intercepted. The refs blew it. Now we see if Steve Young was right all along when he said that nothing would happen until fans stopped showing up and the NFL felt it in the pocketbook. I hope he was wrong. I hope that the league has the decency to admit how hypocritical their position is. But I fear that Young was right.

Delaney

September 25th, 2012
10:19 am

Her name bubbles…

Kook Kiffin

September 25th, 2012
10:21 am

These greedy moneymongering slime ball players, owners, and officials can take their outrageous ticket prices and stuff them up their a@@es. I back that up by giving up my season tickets up five years ago and never attending a game since then. Go to hel! You self serving greed mongers!

drew

September 25th, 2012
10:25 am

Come on Kook…tell us how you REALLY feel…this is a blog…you don’t have to sugarcoat it!

LKW4

September 25th, 2012
10:26 am

I love watching football but this year is a diffcult year. These – what did you call them – refs are destroying the game. They flag every play, make wrong calls, give wrong penalties, and make it so that their team wins. I am surprised they feel safe walking off the field and to their cars. I think every player, coach, owner, and fan are pissed beyond belief. It is difficult to watch these refs mess up. The two hour game is now three hours or more. Please send them back to the grade school class your you got them from. Please reach an agreement with the REAL refs. Even when their calls are bad they are better then the best bad call from the pretend refs.

D man

September 25th, 2012
10:39 am

This is getting blown WAY out of porportion. First, every TD is reviewed so ESPN and the NFL network are wrong in saying it shouldn’t be reviewed. Second, every hail Mary pass in the end zone has pass interference that isn’t called so the shove was not a big surprise that it wasn’t called. Third, we have seen similar simaltaneous catches before and it seems that the offensive player always gets the benefit of the doubt. I THINK THE OFFICIALS GOT IT RIGHT… Stop pushing your agenda media…

No clue

September 25th, 2012
10:40 am

Guaranteed, the black ref (84) blotched the call and forgot which team was on offense and the other ref (26) just went along and raised his arms also. They are standing there looking right at it. Guaranteed, he got the teams switched in the heat of the moment.

This is what minority hiring rules have come too.

BadmoJoe

September 25th, 2012
10:44 am

No Clue…Wow

LydiasDad

September 25th, 2012
10:46 am

Give me a break. Even replay shows it was a tough call. How often is possession shared? The old refs wouldn’t have got it right either. I say we train the new refs better and fire the old refs. At least the new refs show up for work.

BadmoJoe

September 25th, 2012
10:50 am

@LydiasDad…The new refs show up to work because they are allowed to. The old refs are locked out by the NFL, they wanted to continue to work while their contract was renegotiated, but the NFL won’t let them.

McGarrett

September 25th, 2012
10:50 am

If they both possessed it, it goes to offense. Why are y’all saying it’s the wrong call?!?!?

D man

September 25th, 2012
10:51 am

@ LydiasDad – ditto…

Dung Particle

September 25th, 2012
10:55 am

While I’m at it, here’s another big peeve of mine: receivers who throw up their hands indicating pass interference every time they fail to catch the ball. Nine times out of ten the ref throws the flag. It seems like the players are telling the refs what to do.
Make it unsportsmanlike conduct to gesticulate that a flag should have been thrown.
I for one will enjoy the game so much more.

D man

September 25th, 2012
10:59 am

@BadmoJoe – they are locked out because they do not have a working agreement and the NFL choose to not let them work to try and pressure them into agreeing with the contract offer on the table. This is common practice in business. I don’t blame the NFL. The Refs are overpaid in my mind. I am all for folks making as much money as possible but to work 1 four hour day a week and put in probably 4 hours a week studying film they may work a total of two full days a week for 20 weeks and they make 150k for this? The NFL offered a raise and hey refused it. All of these refs have ful time jobs too. The NFL is trying to get a handle on all of the outrageous salaries in the NFL like they did with a cap on Rookie salaries last year so that ticket prices won’t go up more. I applaud them for that…

Cliff

September 25th, 2012
11:02 am

Peter King is reporting that the difference between the refs and the league is $3.3 million per season. These refs have other jobs, so they can hold out as long as they want. The league and the owners need to face reality and pay up. It’s peanuts compared to the billions in revenue the league makes overall. As we now know, if we did not already, they possess a unique skill that is not easily replaceable.

Drew

September 25th, 2012
11:16 am

BadmoJoe

September 25th, 2012
11:18 am

@ D man – When you are a key element of a multi-billion dollar industry, it is difficult not to want to get your piece of the pie. I don’t blame the refs for trying to get what they can. What does piss me off though is the NFL trying to put lipstick on a pig and expecting me to kiss it.

omg

September 25th, 2012
11:18 am

Ok all of you blaming the NFL for poor officiating please get out your union card!! The refs are no worse than before and unions are twice as bad. If the old refs were good then why do we have instant replay and reviewing every score. So wave that union card but the refs are doing just fine.

Reired Vet

September 25th, 2012
11:23 am

APPEARS TO BE ONLY ONE WAY TO BREAK THE LOOCKOUT. THE PLAYERS HAVE GOT TO TAKE A STAND: REFUSE TO PLAY WITH THE CURRENT REFS. THE OWNERS HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE AS THE GOOD TEAMS WILL FIND WAYS TO WIN AND THE NOT SO GOOD WILL FIND WAYS TO LOSE. SO THERE IS NO CHANGE FOR THE OWNERS-EVERYTHING REMAINS AS BEFORE.
A PLAYERS REFUSAL TO PLAY — A LOCKOUT OF THE CURRENT REFS BY THE PLAYERS.
NO GUTS, NO GLORY–IF NO ACTION, STOP COMPLAINING.

dawg2

September 25th, 2012
11:24 am

P B Or..you are a idiot..and lier.

omg

September 25th, 2012
11:32 am

We are not going to blame the UNION? Why not? Do I feel a preference for unions here. Oh no not in Wisconsin. UNIONS do it every time but you blame the other guy.

Renee

September 25th, 2012
11:50 am

Two NFL players have been arrested in Atlanta alone, in less than a week, and you’re blaming the refs for making the NFL a joke. Really???

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

September 25th, 2012
12:16 pm

The touchdown, simply put, does not pass the eyeball test.

Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

September 25th, 2012
12:17 pm

Wilson became the first QB in history to throw a game winning interception.

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
12:21 pm

Why blame the union?
Pro athletes are paid insane amounts.
Carl Crawford gets 22 mil/year and has yet to do much in his two years with the Red Sox.
Boy were they lucky Magic Johnson caught Ted Turner disease and made that crazy trade.
With the pay the athletes get, you would want more too.
Don’t kid yourself.
The owners do not have to give in.
That’s their decision.
They gambled the replacements would do OK and most think they have not.
But I don’t blame the refs at all for wanting more with what the players get paid

Jacket Detective

September 25th, 2012
12:26 pm

Someone figure out for us what Carl Crawford’s money per hit for the last two years is.
Or money per game.
44 mil to goof off for two years of not even medicre performance.
Heck yea the refs should get paid more.
If owners are stupid enough to jumb again and again for free agents time after time without learning what a gamble such deals are.
At least in football, they can get out of the deal after a year.
NFL lawyers a lot smarter than MLB ones.

WTF

September 25th, 2012
12:44 pm

Forest Gump could ref better than what we have today.

Dum-Bass

September 25th, 2012
12:53 pm

Put the blame where it belongs, on the unions. They are behind this mess, just like the teacher’s strike in Chicago. The union thugs will take over the NFL if allowed, one bite at a time. The unions can “mess up a wet dream”!

old man

September 25th, 2012
12:55 pm

I’ve only seen the last play. But the receiver did not push off. He had the equivalent of a defensive touch in basketball. The DB fell on his own.

On the reception, both players had possession. I agree the DB had a better grip on the ball, a better angle of possession (if that makes any sense). But both players had both hands on the ball, and of all four hands, none was merely touching the ball. All four hands were gripping the ball. So, once you determine that both players qualify as having possession, is the ref supposed to then diagnose who has “more” possession, on a scale of 1 to 10? I don’t think so.

Here is how I think it went down. Right before the ref signaled touchdown, the DB rolls and tugs on the ball, which I think the ref interpreted as the DB expressing uncertainty about who really had possession. Why tug and try to rip the ball from the offensive player unless you think you need to? So the ref concludes, “If he is unsure about possession, then why shouldn’t I be unsure too?” If both players have a grip, and you are unsure of possession, by rule possession is awarded to the offense.

Also, when the DB trys to rip the ball away from the WR, he can’t. The ball does not budge. Again, evidence that the WR has a firm grip on the ball.

The call could go either way, but the call they made is not stupid or wrong per se.

Dum-Bass

September 25th, 2012
12:56 pm

The NFL just announced there official review confirms the decision made on the field. It’s final and a TD. “That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.” Now whatcha gonna do pro football fan?

old man

September 25th, 2012
12:59 pm

Lots of herd mentality on this one. See my post above. And, I note that the DB could not rip the ball from the WR even though he tried, and even though his leverage angle was superior.

I guess I should shut up. I mean the announcers said it wrong. Mark Bradley says it was wrong. So it must have been wrong.

Really, I think most of the unhappiness here is with the rule book.

Hyman Roth

September 25th, 2012
1:06 pm

Just another excuse to diparage the replacement refs. All of you, just as I, have seen the “regulars” blow calls since forever. Most recently, the Calvin Johnson TD that wasn’t. It just happens that we are having tightly-contested games going down to the wire. And how often does that occur? Who’s to say that a regular crew would not blow the same call? I heard Boomer Esiason say that the rules state the refs can only decide if the ball hit the ground…not possession. Admittedly, calls have been missed…the Ray Edwards unsportsmanlike-foul-that-wasn’t, for example. But, again, I do not recall the regular refs being infallible. Stop listening to blow-hards like S.A. Smith and Skip Clueless.

Hyman Roth

September 25th, 2012
1:12 pm

Week 4: The Game Of The Week: Aints at The Pack. An early playoff elimination game.

Sweet.

Hyman Roth

September 25th, 2012
1:26 pm

Roger Goddell is an employee of The NFL. He is basically paid to be The Mouthpiece for the owners. The NFL has a bunch of owners that are not camera-shy and a few that actually love microphones.

I haven’t heard a word from Jerry Jones, Robert Kraft, Pat Bowlen, Woody Johnson, Bob Irsay, The Rooneys, The Maras, The Glazers, The Little Guy in DC or Mr Arthur Blank. Or any General Manager for any team. Goddell’s job is to catch the flak.

Hyman Roth

September 25th, 2012
1:31 pm

Totally with you on all points, old man.

sam

September 25th, 2012
1:37 pm

If I were Roger Goodell I would get both sides in a room, lock the door, and not open it until an agreement was reached. Not even a potty break. :-)

billyho55

September 25th, 2012
1:40 pm

THE NFL WILL NOT TOLERATE BEING EMBARRASSED LIKE THIS! HOPEFULLY ALL THE BITCHING AND COMPLAINING THAT IS HAPPENING ON ALL THE SPORTS SHOWS WILL AID IN THE CAUSE AS WELL! I COULD BE DEAD WRONG BUT I FIRMLY BELIEVE WE WILL SEE THE REGULAR REFS BACK IN TWO WEEKS! WHEN THIS BS FINALLY CONCLUDES IT WILL TAKE A WEEK FOR THE REFS TO ALL GET FITTED BY NIKE, SO, I SAY THEY COME TO AN AGREEMENT THIS WEEK AND THEY WILL BE BACK WEEK 5!

PAY THE DAMN REFS FIDEL GOODELL!!!

Go Pack Go

September 25th, 2012
2:04 pm

It was the right call and couldn’t have happened to a better group of guys. Pack is 1-3 in their last 4 games and on pace for a 4-12 season. Russell Wilson should have thrown down the Discount Double Take. Congrats, Seahawks, you were the better team.

Sid

September 25th, 2012
2:13 pm

See, here is the new rule. If the defender catches the ball but the receiver catches the defender then it’s a completed pass.

Keith Kintner

September 25th, 2012
2:17 pm

My “bad call” brick is now totally destroyed. I am boycotting anything related to the NFL until the real refs return. The NFL is now in a shambles, and has lost all of its credibility. Time to follow another “national pastime”. Forget the NFL!

Sid

September 25th, 2012
2:19 pm

Wait is Miss Daisy loose?

Sid

September 25th, 2012
2:23 pm

You cannot convince me that the ref who signaled TD didn’t have money riding on the game. There is no other explanation.

Spit Romney

September 25th, 2012
2:35 pm

Carl Crawford was injured – you moron.

Spit Romney

September 25th, 2012
2:40 pm

Replacement refs have no control of the game – too many little “side skirmishes” that are being overlooked – the regular refs wouldn’t tolerate that nonsense and would keep things under control.

Dick Wood

September 25th, 2012
2:45 pm

Want to really insult someone? – just say to them “your mother is a replacement ref”.

richie

September 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

whats the big deal.Both teams are playing with the same ref.s They are learning on the job,you have to give them a chance.All the teams from players to coachs etc are pushing it.If I was the owners I would put the hammer down I love the games and watching the players and coachs making fools of themselves. lol

blazer

September 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

Offensive interference all the way!

Dick Drip

September 25th, 2012
2:55 pm

Don’t know who is more arrogant or full of themselves – Roger Goodell or David Stern.

Tom, no Dick, and Harry

September 25th, 2012
2:57 pm

What a joke!

Hyman Roth

September 25th, 2012
3:42 pm

Please, Sports Fans…READ THE RULES. The issue is not with the Refs…it’s the rule book. The review is not about possession. Get on the rules committee (comprised ofowners & select coaches) not the refs.

fan

September 25th, 2012
4:04 pm

Plain and simple, the Packers got screwed!

Captianreddawg

September 25th, 2012
4:05 pm

Who cares? Pro football is nothing but a bunch of over paid babies. Go DAWGS!!!!!

Bulldawg

September 25th, 2012
4:07 pm

Replacement refs or not, the side judge blew the offensive pass interference call that would have rendered the point moot.

Also, if you watch the replay, the side judge and back judge look at each other as they are making the call. It was like rock, paper, scissors. The back judge went up with his hands to signal a touchback and the side judge, thinking the back judge is signaling touchdown, throws up both arms confirming a catch in the end zone by the offense. It really shows the side judge’s lack of confidence in himself to make the call.

the old refs weren't any great shakes, either

September 25th, 2012
4:10 pm

So we’re all saying that the union refs would never make calls like this that are subject to debate?? Yeah, right…

bbetsill

September 25th, 2012
4:16 pm

Green Bay scores 12 points, QB gets sacked 8 times, and its the refs fought you lost REALLY

Hyman Roth

September 25th, 2012
4:25 pm

I have read many comments but no one is mentioning the DB Jennings playing “Hero Ball”. I guarantee you that Dom Capers is not teaching “interception” in that scenario…most likely it is “KNOCK IT DOWN”. Going for interception is the “hero” move…knocking it down is a defensive move.

Rigged

September 25th, 2012
4:44 pm

I think one the ref that called it a touchdown had his money on Seattle and the one that called it incomplete had his money on Green Bay. RIGGGGED!

the old refs weren't any great shakes, either

September 25th, 2012
10:23 pm

ESPN’s whining is going to make me hurl. They are like the MSM, trying to make news rather than just reporting it. Gruden and Terico (sic) were screaming like babies, it’s really unprofessional. And gruden never complained about the union refs when he was coaching? yeah… right!

bleeson

September 26th, 2012
11:22 am

To all the people who thinks the NFL needs to cave to the refs I disagree. As a blue collar worker I am offended that the real refs are basiclly holding out for pensions. Most of these refs are already well off and get paid a nice check for officiating. How many of you get a pension for a part time job.

Jay

September 26th, 2012
5:38 pm

All of this could have been avoided if the defender had simply slapped the ball to the ground or knocked it into the stands. Instead, he wanted to pad his stats with personal glory of intercepting the ball. This has happened many times and resulted in a catch by the offense.

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7:37 am

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