Atlanta Falcons: So what if Matt Ryan is no Tom Brady at QB?

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We heard NBC’s Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth go on and on about what a great QB Chicago’s Jay Cutler is Sunday night.

We listened to Collinsworth say, straight up, in his pre-game comments about the Falcons, “I just don’t think they’re that good.”

We keep hearing about how Falcons QB Matt Ryan is no Tom Brady or Peyton Manning at his position.

We say only this: The Falcons at this point are 4-1. Sunday night, Matt Ryan’s team won the football game. Jay Cutler’s team didn’t.

YOU TELL US: Are you Team Matt or Team Ain’t All That? State your case why you’re pro-MR2 or not sold yet on the kid.

230 comments Add your comment

JIm

October 20th, 2009
12:04 pm

Anybody who believes what Collinsworth says must have been dropped oon their head at childbirth!!!

SECya

October 20th, 2009
12:06 pm

Cris Collinsworth is a joke. He is one of those offensive guys who’s impressed with Cutler’s big arm. That same big arm will be the end of him. He can’t efficiently do his job by just throwing deep. Matt Ryan is much more well rounded half way through his second season. As for Collinsworth he has proven in every game that NBC has covered that he has ignorant preconceived notions about both teams. Ideally he should be in the studio, not in the booth. If they want to make a splash they should go after Charles Davis, he is much more informed and well spoken. GO BIRDS!!!

Burger Brian

October 20th, 2009
12:06 pm

Compared to what Peyton achieved his first year and to this point in his second year, I would say that Matt is ahead of him. If Matt stays healthy, he will most certainly earn a place in Canton somewhere between those guys!

JWS

October 20th, 2009
12:11 pm

Matt Ryan has accomplished more in his first 1.5 years in the NFL then Tom Brady and Peyton Manning combined.

BobStevens

October 20th, 2009
12:14 pm

Most people wont say what was on their minds regarding the Bears game. I will shoot it straight with everyone. Ok gang. You may not believe this, but truthfully, the Falcons defense is what saved them this past sunday evening. The Falcons defense played hard-nosed solid football and put themselves in a position to win the game. When you play hard, solid defense you also sometimes get good breaks and bounces. The ball bounced right for the Falcons on Sunday when Matt Ryan fell on a loose ball and recovered a fumble. The Falcons were fortunate and I still feel they outplayed the Bears. The statistics may not bear that out but I feel like the Falcons were a little off their game. Ryan missed a few open receivers and ended up throwing the ball away on several occasions. The routes were not there consistently all afternoon and the receivers were not open because of the Bears good defense. Bottom Line: The Falcons won the game because they played hard AND they put themselves in position to win by not giving the ball away too much. The Falcons played like a playoff team and therefore deserved to win the football game. Were they lucky? Yes. The Falcons did get some favorable luck but they made their breaks by attempting to strip the football and they were successful. It was a good game because the Falcons were not sharp in that Bears game and in the New England game. Had the Falcons been on their game all year they would now sit undefeated at 5-0. However, 4-1 is not too shabby and the Falcons should be proud of where they are. They should also correct their mistakes and build upon this success. Getting back to Matt Ryans skills. The BEST compliment to Matt Ryan’s skills that I have heard so far was from a hall of fame quarterback named Steve Young. I heard Young say last year when Ryan led the Falcons to an 11-5 record that Matt Ryan played like a hall of fame quarterback in his rookie season. THAT FOLKS SAYS IT ALL ABOUT MATT RYAN. THE RYAN EXPRESS IS ON TRACK AND WILL CONTINUE TO ROLL ON. MATTY ICE IS ABOUT THE BEST QUARTERBACK TO COME INTO THE ASSOCIATION IN QUITE SOME TIME. THE LAST QUARTERBACK THAT I CAN REMEMBER WITH ICE’S SKILLS WAS PEYTON MANNING and we all know how good Peyton Manning is.

john moon

October 20th, 2009
12:15 pm

Ryan is not overrated and who ever thinks that does not have a glue
Maybe some Vick fan now he was overrated most by fans.

Dan

October 20th, 2009
12:19 pm

Chris Collinsworth is a moron. I agree with Bob that the defense won the game, but Matt Ryan and the Falcons deserve more credit than they get from that idiot. I hope he continues to down us. I enjoy ever time we make him wrong. I was at the game and the Bears were terrible. Their backs couldn’t hold on to the ball, their receivers could’t catch herpes, let alone the ball, and Cutler was all over the place. Keep putting us down Chris. Show your intelligence.

Glynn

October 20th, 2009
12:19 pm

Matt Ryan IS the next Peyton Manning

FalconFanForLife

October 20th, 2009
12:20 pm

Collinsworth is typical of most national pundits, if it’s not the Patriots, Steelers or Giants then the team is just not worthy. Granted those are the teams that won superbowls the last 5 years, but it might behove the color analyast to work a little and find out about a team he is broadcasting. Al Micheals is a pro, but Collingsworth is another gas bag with nothing useful to say and always pointing out the obvious. Sorry for interupting your busy schedule Chris, enjoy next weeks game, boy that will be fun.

Daniel Bell

October 20th, 2009
12:24 pm

You see a lot of this lately, but most sports-talk people are aware of how good Matt Ryan and the Atlanta offense is. That said, I don’t mind the Falcons being out of the national media eye for the most part. It’s a better story to be an unexpected rise than a shocking collapse.

JP

October 20th, 2009
12:33 pm

He’s sure as heck no Drew Brees. Geaux Saints!

Frank Wren

October 20th, 2009
12:34 pm

Tony Dungy said Matt Ryan is a young Peyton Manning. They even showed comparisons of some of the pre snap things Ryan does just like Manning.

Thats good enough for me.

just the facts

October 20th, 2009
12:36 pm

if you look at their numbers of this past game Matt Ryan is not as good as Jay Cutler. But I’d still take Matt because Jay is such a whiner crybaby.

Blue Fender

October 20th, 2009
12:37 pm

Collinsworth is a douche. I’m sick of his big jackass grin and his “analysis” of teams. He’s the biggest band wagon jumper-oner of any announcer out there. He’ll be saying how good a team is and how he always knew how good they would be after that team is in the playoffs or wins the SB. Effem.

J williams

October 20th, 2009
12:44 pm

Peyton and Brady have become the standard because of their consistent play…Matty has only one year, so to compare him to those guys is not fair.

When was it they the “talking heads” realized that Peyton and Brady were the standard? Shouldn’t Matty be given a few years to develop into what we hope he becomes?

The Falcons’ offense didn’t impress on Sunday, but I the Bears had an extra week of rest and preparation. The only thing that counts are the wins.

JewellNelson

October 20th, 2009
12:48 pm

History Lession: Like I said yesterday, right now there are many doubting thomases and skeptical fans who dont really know how good the Falcons are so far, thats cool. They will understand in time. When they find out how good the Falcons are they will breathe a sigh of relief. The national media are used to making a mockery of the Falcons. Even going back to the days of the late Howard Cosell from Monday Night Football. Cosell used to always include the Falcons when discussing the playoffs even when he knew there was no chance the Falcons would make it. I remember back then in those years, many years after 12 games the Falcons record would be 4-8; so Cosell would say “yeah, the Falcons are mathematically still alive, but in order for them to get into the playoffs all the teams above them would have to LOSE ALL OF THEIR GAMES, while the Falcons would have to WIN ALL OF THEIR GAMES rendering the task virtually impossible. And he used to joke about it over and over again. “Then after saying that, Cosel would quip, “So in other words in terms of Falcons making the playoffs, ‘FORGET THEM’. It still hurts because I remember it like it was yesterday. Oh how times have changed. In my BLOG yesterday I said that I feel it in my gut that the Falcons are one of the top 5 teams in the league. We dont know yet because it hasnt been proven. After the Falcons play the Eagles, Saints and Cowboys, EVERYONE will know where the Falcons rank in the power ranknings. I also feel that the Falcons match up well with New Orleans and will beat them provided the Falcons score 90 points in that game. Again, here is how I rank the five best teams in the league. #1:New Orleans; #2:Indianapolis; #3:New England; #4:Minnesota; and #5:Atlanta. THOSE ARE MY POWER RANKINGS FOR NOW. Forget Denver at 5-0, they are lucky and havent played anyone.

Singletary

October 20th, 2009
12:52 pm

The commentators rarely like us, but it was really awful against the Pats. I’m not usually into conspiracy theories, but it did seem like the refs and the commentators had a confab beforehand and said “Birds are going down,” and then they both called it that way. (How else do you explain Matt Light constantly “pantsing” or giving wedgies to John Abraham and never throwing a flag?)

If Cris Collingsworth never called another game, I’d be happier. If you think he hates us, imagine how bad it is when he calls Browns games. The spouse is a Browns fan, and he is even more venomous and disparaging against them.

Great reason to work hard to win the SB so that we can then make a YouTube video montage of all his jerk comments to send to NBC. (BTW, why doesn’t NBC ever deign to hire an African American to work in the night booth? Don’t want to start a discrimination rant on this blog, but to this Caucasian, that is just idiocy when there are talented former players like Sterling Sharp who would add immeasurably to the discussion & fun.)

MLB

October 20th, 2009
12:53 pm

The key word in Collinsworth’s comment was “think”; that should have been a clue that something dumb would follow. The Falcons have been among defensive league leaders in points allowed and touchdowns allowed. Their offensive line is among the league leaders in sacks allowed, if not leading the league. This is a solid, well-coached, highly-motivated, very athletic football team that is capable of going very far. Throw in Matt Ryan, and the sky’s the limit! They don’t have to depend on one player or phase of their game to win. They learned how good they can be with the loss at New England, a game they could very well have won. Chris Collinsworth is a “homer” who roots for the Bengals every week, and a hack who reveals his professional laziness by his ill-preparedness. I’ll close with a freebie: the Dophins upset the Saints on Sunday, setting up a Monday night showdown between the Falcons & Saints for the NFC South lead!

FalcFan

October 20th, 2009
12:57 pm

At this point in his career Ryan is no Brady. Personally I prefer the Manning comparison, but I the guy is only in his second season. Already being compared to those two is enough to tell me Ryan is a franchise guy. Also, it seems clear to me that the coaches are not going to completely unleash him for 4 quarters like the Colts do Manning. However, if you look at how effective he is when he is running the show (the no huddle) you know he is going to be great. As a side note, Chris Collinsworth completely ruins Sunday night football. He said that the reason Grimes was starting was because of his size and run support. Anyone can tell you that Grimes is one o the smallest guys on the field and the two biggest weaknesses are size and tackling ability. Collinsworth is just horrible. It could be argued that he is worse than the Falcons that played when Vick went to jail and Petrino left.

RoryWhistler

October 20th, 2009
1:04 pm

What’s amazing about Cris Collingsworth and some of the other announcers is they are ALWAYS ROOTING AGAINST THE FALCONS and they dont want the Falcons to win the games. Whats more is that in all the games so far, I think the Falcons were the underdog in most of them, yet the Falcons record is a rousing 4-1. 4-1 is impressive and most sports media should be acknowledging the Falcons success so far. If you pro rate 4-1 for 15 games the record would be 12-3 with a possible 13-3 record at the end: NOT BAD! iS THAT GOOD OR WHAT! Why are the nnational media calling the Falcons the underdog when they are domininating most of the teams they play. The Falcons crushed San Francisco 45-10 and still didnt get any credit for that game.

RodneyRichards

October 20th, 2009
1:08 pm

FalcFan: you are wrong!!! Truth be told:Ryan is BETTER than Peyton and Manning combined at this time when both were in their second season. In other words Ryans second year is better than both mannings and bradys second year. thats a fact. Ryan will be an ABSOLUTE CERTAIN HALL OF FAMER by the time his career is over.

Singletary

October 20th, 2009
1:08 pm

FalcFan has an excellent point. There’s every reason to believe he will develop.

I also think our (excellent) coaching staff may be playing the season strategically. Specifically, they probably wouldn’t have pulled out the no huddle except to win the game. While all of them are important, a home loss would have been devastating. While they want players to focus only on this week’s game, they are probably holding some plays back for tricky or finesse situations.

BTW, “the GQ Don’t hit me Brady doll” is probably just ticked off that the WSJ concluded that MR2 was the best looking QB in the league (as per some face point metrics measurement.)

CJJunior

October 20th, 2009
1:08 pm

Matty Ice hasn’t even been in the league a full 2 yeas yet……of course he’s no Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, no real Falcons fan is asking him to be. But he is 15 – 7 (one playoff lose) with 25 TD’s and 15 Int. I’ll take that over a rocket arm and goofy school boy hair cut any day.

cutter

October 20th, 2009
1:09 pm

Why does anyone give a crap about what the commentators think or say. They have to say something that’s what they are paid to do. Win football games and let the wimps worry about what is being said. Is Matt Ryan a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning… not yet. Win a ring then we can compare.

GoldenVulture

October 20th, 2009
1:17 pm

I feel that Matty “Ice” Ryan is BETTER than Peyton Manning and Tom Brady is NOW! i MAY be the only person who believes that but that is what I see when I watch Ryan on Sundays. Some days some of his throws are off, but when he gets back on track he is throwing the ball now as good as ANYONE who has ever been great at qb: and I have seen them all: Bradshaw, Staubach, Unitas, Elway, Fouts, Namath, Manning, Brady. FOLKS, THIS MAY STUN YOU, but Matty Ice is better than all of them NOW.

MLB

October 20th, 2009
1:19 pm

If you check out replays of Sunday night, Al Michaels was correcting CC’worth all broadcast. Michaels ended by acknowledging that a 4-1 record is legitimate proof for both a Division contender and a Conference contender; the LAST WORD. The San Francisco broadcast team just reinforced that there is a broadcaster bias with these games. Even though the Falcons were clearly kicking 49er ass, Syragusa on the sideline, and the booth annoouncers acted like they wre in shock the way the game was going. But hey, it’s better that the Falcons continue to fly under the radar. They will take the “experts” by surprise, if not the other teams!

HGN

October 20th, 2009
1:23 pm

I don’t think Matty Ice needs to be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. I will take a very good Matty Ice any day..And that’s what Ryan is at this point in his career. Very good. He is learning to be a better quarterback , and make his reads faster and more accurate. That’s all anyone can ask. To just continue to get better and keep developing his game…By anyone’s standard I think he is doing just great.

Willie Coyote

October 20th, 2009
1:24 pm

People can debate whether he’s overrated, has a “noodle arm”, isn’t this, or isn’t that, but this team in 15-6 during the regular season with him. That says a lot about him and this team as a whole.

JessicaChevalier

October 20th, 2009
1:26 pm

For those people who simply cant wait for the Falcons/New Orleans contest at the New Orleans Superdome, I am predicting the Falcons will win that contest by a final score of 90-67. If that score happens MAYBE THE MEDIA WILL FINALLY SAY THE FALCONS MAY POSSIBLY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. WHO KNOWS. All I can tell you is that I believe the Falcons will be the Superbowl champions this year. I wont back down from that prediction.

ATL

October 20th, 2009
1:27 pm

Who cares what anyone else thinks. We’re 4-1, and still haven’t hit our peak!
GO FALCONS!

Ryan2atl

October 20th, 2009
1:36 pm

Ryan has started 22 games and the Falcons have won 15 or close to 70%. Geez, he’s not perfect. I’ll take 70%. Lets see how things go. He needn’t be annointed nor trashed just yet but he most assuredly should be enjoyed. Think of other scenarios which could have played out with the Falcons. If you don’t have a smile on your face you ain’t livin’.

MLB

October 20th, 2009
1:37 pm

Ditto FalcFan & Singletary: MR is way ahead of Manning & Brady at this point in their careers. And, when you consider the teams & circumstances they all came in under, MR is just absolutely amazing. Not to give away my age, but I was here for the FIRST Falcons team in ‘66. I’ve followed every incarnation since then, and folks, there ain’t never been nothin’ close to this guy in all those years! And on top of that, the Falcons have the most stable, enlightened ownership, management, & coaching EVER! Remember Rankin Smith, Jerry Glanville, the prima donna Jim Mora, etc etc etc…

MO Zack

October 20th, 2009
1:40 pm

Thank goodness collinsworth doesn’t like the Falcons!

Jim H.

October 20th, 2009
1:44 pm

Did he really say that? I always mute Collinsworth so I didnt hear it (he’s the football version of Joe Morgan)……. I guesss I would ask, who the he!! cares what that dipstick thinks?

kurula

October 20th, 2009
1:47 pm

it’s good that john elway won a couple of rings at the end of his career. otherwise he wouldn’t have been thought of as a great quarterback. too bad dan marino didn’t win any. but, i guess he wasn’t a great quarterback. he was no where near as good as jeff hostetler or brad johnson. those guys won a ring and marino did not. since that is obviously how we judge quarterback success, i guess marino was down right terrible. just think….all those years playing football…and nothing to show for it. too bad football isn’t a team sport. maybe someone could have helped poor marino win one and maybe have gotten a couple more for john elway. maybe if jim kelly was a better quarterback, buffalo might have won one of those superbowls. the rest of his team had nothing to do with the losses. peyton manning won one finally. too bad he was terrible last year and lost in the first round. his brother eli already won one. way earlier in his career than peyton. i guess he’s the better quarterback. i guess you had better win a ring, drew brees, or forever be thought of as less of a passer than doug williams or trent dilfer. those guys won a ring. because of that, they better than you.

Matt

October 20th, 2009
1:50 pm

Who is Tom Brady and Peyton Manning? Matt Ryan all the WAY baby ;-)

Corey

October 20th, 2009
1:53 pm

Still not sure why so many so-called experts are so in love with Cutler: He has talent, but at least so far, all he has shown is that he can’t always be counted on when he is on the field and that off the field he is selfish and immature. And although they are obviously at opposite ends of their careers, Matt Ryan definitely has two things in common with Brady: they are both class acts and know how to win a football game when it counts. As far as the lack of respect for the Falcons, we shouldn’t worry about it because this team is finally going to be a winner for many years to come.

Neil

October 20th, 2009
1:58 pm

I’m reminded of a poster from SI I had as a child that said, “Reggie Jackson superstar (not yet)” Well, MR will be a superstar and amoung the all-time elite quarterbacks in the league. The only announcer who is more of an idiot than Collingsworth is Troy Aikman.

BigEasy830

October 20th, 2009
2:13 pm

Brees>Ryan. Enough said.

Saints 16-0 win superbowl

Falcons 4-12 back to reality

kurula

October 20th, 2009
2:15 pm

falcons 4-12? nah. they have at least 4 guaranteed wins left. 2 with tampa and one against carolina and one against the redskins. bigeasy, don’t hate AND get greedy. it’s just tacky.

SOUTH GA BIRD FAN

October 20th, 2009
2:15 pm

GO FALCONS !!!!!!!!!!!
MR is the best long term investment at QB in years to come into the league and most “Experts” are just mad because they predicted him to struggle , what if he is struggling now man what happens when he figures it all out !!!!!
GO FALCONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cutter

October 20th, 2009
2:16 pm

It’s always the guys who had average football careers that are hard on the elite players. Chris Collinsworth has to sit there year end and year out and listen to guys be compared to Hall of Fame caliber players and watch as former players are inducted or at least mentioned for possible induction into the Hall of Fame. His name will never be mentioned and he will never be compared to any Hall of Fame type players and I’m sure that hurts. He and Mark Schlereth are haters.

Jeff M.

October 20th, 2009
2:16 pm

Colinsworth said on ‘Inside The NFL’ a couple weeks ago that he anticipates Matt Ryan will have the best career of any young QB in the league including Jay Cutler. He was probably just playing provocative for the camera in talking down the Birds.

bfred

October 20th, 2009
2:19 pm

In the same vein, I was astonished by the amount of love the Giants were getting before the NO game. The Giants had not played anyone, yet were #1 in the power rankings while NO was destroying every team that came near them.

Sports media is no different from any other variety – they don’t report facts, the spout opinion with no repurcussions for being consistently wrong. The average man on the street could pick games as well as the “experts” – just look at their track records.

Old Dawg

October 20th, 2009
2:25 pm

Matt Ryan is a second year quarterback playing within a system that is allowing him to develop in the pro game. Thank goodness has has a good running game and talented receivers. Every offensive system is different, but the Falcons’ is suited to a quarterback who can manage games and take shots down the field when they’re required.

What we’re seeing now is the beginning of what should be an outstanding career.

kurula

October 20th, 2009
2:26 pm

it’s easier and easier to ignore the ‘experts’ these days. atlanta wins 45-10 against san francisco on the road…oh, well, looks like the 49ers are overrated. atlanta wins 21-14 in a hard fought, close game at home against the bears…oh, well the bears out gained atlanta and if not for bad luck, should have beaten an overrated atlanta team. there are no style points in the NFL……….right?……………..right?!

MLB

October 20th, 2009
2:27 pm

Aikman sustained multiple concussions behind the Cowboys’ O-line, at least that’s his defense for being dumb as a bag of rocks. He was part of that broadcast team for the blowout 49ers game. Back in ‘79, ‘80 it was suspected that Montana was a bust with the 49ers. In ‘80, the Falcons went 12-4, won their division, were favorites to go all the way, and lost to the underdog Cowboys in Divisional playoff. The next season, the Falcons went in the toilet, and the 49ers, Montana, Walsh & Co went on to make history. It can turn around in one season in the NFL, usually while the experts are obsessed with the big names…the Falcons are on the way! They have everything in place for a nice long run!

Matt Ryan

October 20th, 2009
2:27 pm

This is only my second year and the only thing ya’ll can compare me to is the two best qb’s which makes me the third best, and I been doing push-ups so you can forget the Noodle Arm and I’m bringing a super bowl trophy to Atlanta before it’s said and done, and Collinsworth is upset cause his wifey been trying to get at me on the low,” THIS IS WHY I’m HOTT”

Steve C

October 20th, 2009
2:30 pm

BigEasy830, what an idiotic statement.

MLB

October 20th, 2009
2:34 pm

Ain’ts…I mean Saints…16 an oh! Cough cough gag gag…Superbowl…plastic or paper? If you’re a Saints fan, you know what that means…