Should Tebow have been in the game?
Kentucky's Taylor Wyndham sack of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow forced Tebow to leave the game. (MCT)
Would you have left an ill Tim Tebow in the game, leading Kentucky 31-7 late in third quarter?
Florida coach Urban Meyer did, and the result was not pretty in Saturday night’s SEC game in Lexington.
Tebow took a vicious hit and, after several minutes of lying motionless on his back, had to be helped off the field. He was seen vomiting on the sidelines and eventually had to be taken out of the stadium in an ambulance.
Meyer visited with Tebow’s parents at the stadium and later told reporters he believed his star had suffered a concussion.
Florida went on to win 41-7.
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Jenny
September 26th, 2009
11:49 pm
HELL NO SEND URBAN TO NOTRE DAME HE SUCKS
KJ
September 26th, 2009
11:50 pm
Guess we have a press conference to look forward to, where Tebow apologizes for vomiting and pledges that nobody will work harder than he will the rest of the season to ensure that he doesn’t vomit again. Which will get replayed ad nauseum on ESPN, and endlessly praised by Verne Lundquist.
I’m feeling a little nauseous myself.
mark
September 26th, 2009
11:54 pm
i dont blame meyer. at that point the gators werent guaranteed a win. this week, and season for that matter, has been full of upsets and sec teams can cover a few touchdown spread quickly if they get their act together. i do blame the kentucky defender for a malicious hit that was uncalled for. there is no need to purposely try and hurt another player. i do believe that was the intent. the defender hit tebow up high and led with his helmet. it was obvious he was going to get a sack but he wanted to make a show of it. hopefully tebow will get a good report from the docs.
Mitch
September 26th, 2009
11:54 pm
May the Lord help Him soon to recover and protect Tim from further injury.
Raychel
September 26th, 2009
11:56 pm
yall needa get off tebow and urban; yall needa stop bein hatin ass hoes they did what they could now.
Gbait3
September 26th, 2009
11:58 pm
Fire Urban and see if you can get Jimbo Fisher away from fsu. Notice their QB didn’t get hurt today.
Scott
September 27th, 2009
12:02 am
@Mark – It wasn’t a malicious hit. It was just a good hard hit. It wasn’t even the hit that hurt Tebow, it was Tebow’s head slamming into his teammate’s leg on the way down that caused the concussion.
sarfdawg
September 27th, 2009
12:04 am
Mark, “a malicious hit?” This is football. His intent was to drill Tebow while he wasn’t looking and cause a fumble, and oddly enough, he did just that. I am a Georgia guy, and I really don’t want to see Tebow get hurt. Great human being and a great role model for all kids. That said, the UK player was playing football, not trying to hurt Tim.
SHS
September 27th, 2009
12:13 am
I agree with Mark. I feel confident that Coach Meyer sought and followed medical advice of the doctors who work with the team regarding allowing Tim Tebow to play in the UF-UK game. The big problem was with Rich Brooks, his coaching staff and and his team. Apparently they attempt to conceal lack of skill, talent, and ability as well as mediocre coaching, with unsportsmanlike conduct (note the number of penalties they received on this game alone) and vicious hits whose only intent is to cause bodily harm to opposing team players. Going after a quarterback in that manner is particularly egregious because they are extremely vulnerable as they pass the ball. I cannot think of a word bad enough to describe Rich Brooks and his band of undisciplined, untalented, poorly prepared thugs.
IlliniBrave
September 27th, 2009
12:18 am
I’m feeling kinda guilty over feeling kinda happy that Teabag might miss a few games.
mark
September 27th, 2009
12:19 am
there is a difference in playing football and trying to look like joe cool for knocking out a exceptional player. and to say his injury was solely from the impact with the offensive linemans knee is a bit of assumption. an impact to the side of the head is just as dangerous as one to the back of the head. also if he was after a fumble it would be smarter to go after the ball (players midsection) and not someones head (as demonstrated tonight).
Channah!
September 27th, 2009
12:23 am
Mark, you are dead on. That was clearly a helmet to helmet hit. He dropped his head at the last moment as evidenced by the slo-mo replay.
mark
September 27th, 2009
12:25 am
channah!- yep look at the pic on this page. helmet has made contact before hands
CATlanta
September 27th, 2009
12:48 am
That was NOT a malicious hit by the Kentucky defender. He led with his shoulder and made a clean hit. The commentators confirmed that. Watching the play live and the replay, it was obvious that hurting Tebow was not his intent. Football is a physical sport and the UK defender was clearly just doing his job. Any football player would do the same. Also, UK’s penalties were mostly illegal formations and false starts, NOT unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.
Straight from the horse’s mouth, “When I got up and saw he was hurt, I was kind of upset about it,” Wyndham said. “It’s football, but you always hope that nobody gets injured.
“It was a good hit, a clean hit. I’m sorry he got hurt; I wish the best for him.”
You can’t say much more than that, or put it any better. Tim Tebow is one heck of a football player and I wish him a fast and speedy recovery.
Channah!
September 27th, 2009
12:51 am
@SHS -
I couldn’t agree more. It was very telling watching the hot headed Brooks blow up on call after call. Poor dsicipline hurt UK dearly early on in the game.
It’s no wonder he is a losing career record. I’ve had coaches like that. They are embarrassing. The fact that he and the player were so quick to say it was a legal hit is telling.
I would say that Brantley should have been in earlier, but I’m sure Tebow wanted to be over center.
GO JACKETS!
Mike
September 27th, 2009
12:52 am
Don’t blame the victims. It’s the Kentucky player and his coaches who deserves the blame for this. It was shameful to watch him and his teammates celebrate while Tim lay on the turf seriously injured. They knew they had already lost, so they were just trying to get revenge by hurting Tim. They should not be allowed to play football for the rest of their lives. I know Tim will bounce back with God’s help, but those responsible for this should be punished.
ckgator
September 27th, 2009
1:10 am
The hit was clean and not that devastating. The real trauma occurred on the way down – when he hit is head on his own player’s knee.
Forget football or the shoulda woulda’s. A little more energy and the injury could have been much worse. Here’s to a speedy recovery for Tim but for his health first, and football second.
Go Gators!
BugKiller
September 27th, 2009
2:08 am
Things running through Tebow’s mind when he got hurt:
1) God won’t let me die a virgin!
2) Now who’s gonna perform unnecessary circumcisions without a mohel’s license on all those poor Philippine kids?
3) His offensive tackle’s knee!!!
…
…
… Too soon?
SC Dawg
September 27th, 2009
2:25 am
hey mark, quit your crying. football is a vicious game. it was a clean hit and if you watch the replay the big hit came from his own player. so stfu
Channah!
September 27th, 2009
2:31 am
I love the folks that are so certain it was the knee that did all the damage.
There is no telling if he was conscious on the way down. Most likely the damage was caused by 2 factors:
- helmet to helmet tackle caused his head to jerk back
- helmet to knee abruptly stopped head, soft brain tissue affected
Regardless, look at the picture. Why is Wyndham saying he didn’t want to be that guy? He clearly felt bad. Of course he says it was legal. The announcers are not going to criticize the ref either. That is discouraged by the NCAA and basically all leagues.
I wouldn’t wish that hit on Mike Vick. And I can’t stand him.
Brollin
September 27th, 2009
6:18 am
He should not been in the game. Up 4 by td’s no need for him to be in the game the deffense controlled the whole gae and the o line has controled the game. The back up should have been in the game. Uf was trying to run up the score.
Clean hit may have knocked the wind out of him but his head snaped back on his own player knee. e
dawgdip
September 27th, 2009
6:32 am
No need for him to be still in the game except to jack up the score. Did his loving coach even go out on the field to check on him? Maybe I missed that.
SEC fan
September 27th, 2009
7:32 am
Clean hit, he should not have been in the game. Sour grapes from the Gator fans, I remember in the SEC championship game last year how the Gator players were kicking the Bama players laying on the ground as time was running down. Don’t talk about sportsmanship when the Gators are clearly the most unsportsmanlike team around. They had Tebow in trying to run up the score, and would probably be calling timeouts at the end to pad his statistics. I wish the best for Tebow, because he is a fine human being and a great football player, but Urban Meyer is a whiner and can’t stand it when the shoe is on the other foot. Chalk it up, no #1 for this year, you heard it here first.
FloridaDawg
September 27th, 2009
7:41 am
At the time this happened, Tim Tebow was in the game ONLY to pad his numbers and run up the score.
When a team or most likely the head coach, Meyer, wants to run up the score, the other team doesn’t like it…that was the un-sportsman part of this thing.
You knew this was coming at some point.
I hope Tebow is going to be OK…but he has a “classless coach” on the sidelines.
Brian D Smith
September 27th, 2009
7:53 am
Sour grapes, FloridaDawg
johnny reb
September 27th, 2009
7:54 am
Of course he’s “Superman”.
mmjhokiegirl
September 27th, 2009
8:23 am
No, he should not have been in the game. If Meyer had an ounce of decency and class the backup would have already been in the game.
The real problem for the Gators is that without Tebow they can’t waive around the Tebow Jesus flag covering up the sins of the rest of the players. When will the media exposure the thuggery on this team- UF the Miami of the 2000s.
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
8:29 am
Florida Dawg…there is nothing classless about Urban Meyer. The man is nothing but first class, except for his dislike for Lame Duck Kiffin. Instead of running his players onto the field, he just calls time outs to make a point about. Which is more classless? Tebow was on the field because he and his receivers needed game work together…period, and the game was not “won” at the time either. Cox would have been playing if Georgia had had the same kind of lead. But Lord help any team that falls more than one touchdown down against the Gators with the Gators defense. That defense is more super than superman.
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
8:33 am
But what was classless….the Kentucky fans cheering as Tebow lay motionless and obviously seriously hurt on the field. And the Kentucky players seeing Tebow that way, pointing at him, and celebrating. Why was a penalty flag not thrown for unsportsmanlike conduct on those K-players? The actual hit, I thought, was a clean one. The K-player actually tried to lower his head just before the hit. The fall is what hurt Tebow.
HoCoJo
September 27th, 2009
8:37 am
Kentucky made a great hit/tackle on Tebow. Nuff said.
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
8:38 am
dawgdip…yes he did. And he even was with Tebow on the sidelines checking on him after he was sitting up on the bench. You guys have no idea the kind of person Meyer is. Nothng but hate for a great coach. You only wish you had Urban Meyer and his coaching staff. If you did, you would be 4-0 like the Gators.
HoCoJo
September 27th, 2009
8:39 am
Tebow made a great run in the 1st half, and taunted the Kentucky D-backs after the run. Where was the penalty flag then?
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
8:47 am
By the way, I caught the end of the Az. State game. Congratulations to all DECENT Dawg fans on a great, well-played victory. Green is just a remarkable player. Go SEC!
poopdawg
September 27th, 2009
8:51 am
TampaGator , which is more classless? Richt didn’t send his players running on the field, He asked the players on the field to show some emotion after scoring the 1st touchdown. The players on the sideline joined in the celebration but were not told to storm the field . But i’m pretty the timeouts were called directly by coach urban meyer. So which is more classless? I have no problem with Tebow being in the game when the hit occured, and the hit on Tebow was clean old fashion football. Tebow has more class in his pinkie toe ,than Urban will ever have. We will see what kind of coach Urban Meyer is next year without Tebow .
FalconUGAFan
September 27th, 2009
9:04 am
Thanks TampaGator for the kind words about the UGA game. I like the win, but we are still making too many mistakes. I feel there was a bit of improvement on defense, but turnovers and fundamental play is killing us. A win is good but we need to step it up for the SEC elites coming up on the schedule.
DP
September 27th, 2009
9:05 am
The people who are claiming a helmet to helmet hit are delusional. The defensive player led with his shoulder. It was a clean hit.
This game was over at the end of the first quarter with the score 31-0. I can’t see any reason Tebow was still in the game late in Q3, particularly given that he had the flu, other than Meyer wanting to pad his stats for the Heisman. Florida is #1 and controls its destiny; there is no reason for them to run up the score.
I had been thinking it was a matter of time until Tebow got hurt, but thought it would be on a collision in a short yardage situation like he had at the goal line in the first quarter last night or the one with Eric Berry the week before. He had 24 carries for 76 yards against UT. I don’t know if there’s a running back in the SEC who has carried the ball 24 times in a game this year. Why subject your quarterback to so many collisions every week? How is it that a team which gets a top 5 recruiting class every year has to rely on its QB to make every 3rd and 2? Can Meyer not develop a short yardage running back, or is it all about Heismans for Tebow?
Tebow is a great person and a great player and I hope this is not a serious concussion. As we’ve seen with Troy Aikman and others, once a player has a concussion he is more susceptible to having more of them. Hopefully Meyer will have enough sense to stop running Tebow into the line on every short yardage situation.
poopdawg
September 27th, 2009
9:05 am
Another thing TampaGator , do you think coach Richt would be calling and texting a recruit every 5 minutes while that recruit was visiting another school . Thats exactly what your classy coach did while the recruit was visiting Tennesee. Thats what started the whole Kiffin deal.
Carlton Powell
September 27th, 2009
9:10 am
Thirty One to seven, and your “aircraft carrrier” QB is still in the game? Now, because of a hard hit-clean or not-you have a player under observation with a potentially serious closed head injury. I DO question Myer’s motives and agenda. The dark side of my personality says that because the Gators didn’t beat TN last week by 50+ points as everyone expected, he wanted to make this some kind of a “statement” game. I hope I am wrong.
AtlGtr
September 27th, 2009
9:11 am
Urban should have benched his prized QB after 1st series of 3rd qtr. Tebow’s backup needs more time on the field when outcome is assured.
That said, give peace a chance, and 10-day rest for Heisman hopeful. Dawgs beware. Danger around the bend.
jcurtis62
September 27th, 2009
9:26 am
Enter your comments hereNo, Kentucky was not a threat and this just show Myers personally of trying to run it up. He’s goin to get Tebow seriously hurt and it will ruin any chance for an NFL career,which is already slim
Instant Classic1
September 27th, 2009
9:37 am
A little history lesson:
Urban’s first trip to UK 5 years ago and UF goes up 42-3 by halftime and he pulls his starters. He has to put his 1st team offense back in the game in the fourth quarter. He learned his lesson and now goes for 60 minutes. If your team doesn’t want to play the whole game, not his problem.
Vontaze Burflict for ASU is an absolute stud.
Zdawg
September 27th, 2009
10:02 am
You know that I hate FL, but I hope Tebow is all right. The world could use a lot more Tim Tebows, not playing for UF but in Congress!
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
10:02 am
PoopDog…just about every coach does that, especially when a committed athlete is visiting another campus. Nothing wrong with it. The classless part was Kiffin calling Meyer a cheater on TV.
ckgator
September 27th, 2009
10:04 am
Congrats to the Dawgs on a solid win. I did not want to see another SEC team lose to a PAC 10 school. Way to man up and pull it out!
Looking to hear some good news on Tebow – for him and his family first… and football second.
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
10:05 am
DP..if you were the Florida coach, they would be 0-4 right now.
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
10:07 am
And poopDawg…he is the same coach who won the NC with Chris Leak as his QB when Zook couldn’t beat Miss. State with the same team.
Call it Like It Is
September 27th, 2009
10:07 am
Hey to all of you classless haters out there, you have no class.
What has Tebow done to any of you?
If someone gets hurt, the focus changes from a dumb game to what matters most in life. A lot of you classless MORONS would feel differently if that someone on the field were a relative or a family member.
What a bunch of clowns. I feel sorry for you!
Enough Said!
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
10:09 am
HoCoJO…watch the game more closely. After Tebow’s great run, he pointed to the Gator fans in the end zone and asked them to cheer louder. It had nothing to do with Kentucky. He was trying to get the Florida fans cheering louder, which they did.
Dawgdad
September 27th, 2009
10:33 am
It is not just Meyer. Whatever happenned to the days when coaches worked to get the backup QB into the game to get them some experience. Last year it was Matt Stafford playing every down even when the game was effectively over. I feel we lost the first game against Okla St for many reasons, but one was lack of PT for Joe Cox in the last two years. Tebow should not have been in the game. I saw the score and knew he was ill and switched over to see if he was in the game, not because I had any doubt about the outcome. Sure enough there was Tim and then wham. Meyer got what he deserved.
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
10:37 am
By the way, from what I watched yesterday, the best team right now in the SEC is Bama. Florida and Bama’s defenses are equal, but Bama’s offense right now is better than the Gator offense. If they play in the SEC title game this year, it will probably be for the National Title. And it will be a real head knocker.
azdawg
September 27th, 2009
10:42 am
Some of these posts are shameful. I won’t name anyone because probably in their mind would give them some kind of sick recognition. You make all dawg fans look bad. I hope Tebow has a full recovery. How anyone can be happy or make demeaning comments about this kid’s injury is a sick commentary on the a few bad apples that would eat their own just to win a game.
As for Urban Meyer, it’s more than apparent, he only has his best interests at heart and would sacrifice any player on the roster for a win. He just strikes me as that kind of man.
theTruth
September 27th, 2009
10:54 am
First off, hope Tebow is alright. He is a very good role model regarless what people might want to say.
But, I’m suprised this hasn’t happened before now. Over the years, Meyer has left Timmy in the game just to pad stats and to say otherwise is folly on anyone’s part. No sense in denying it, just look at the last four years. Numerous exampes EVERY year.
Secondly, it was a CLEAN hit. Actually, it was a great hit and no Kentucky was not TRYING to hurt Florida players. All the gators blaming UK or the player need to look no further than their own coach.
TG, I agree, but I’ve thought bama was the best team in the SEC since the VT game.
theTruth
September 27th, 2009
10:55 am
regardless **** oops
theTruth
September 27th, 2009
10:56 am
lol examples as well, well just nevermind
Joe Friday
September 27th, 2009
11:26 am
Enter your comments here
Will Tebow play against LSU? Time will tell. Will Tebow be gunshy? Probably not.Will Tebow get hurt again? My magic 8-ball says maybe. Will Tebow break Walker’s record for rushing TD’s? Yes, if you believe everything said about Meyer in these comments.Will the Gators roll over and play dead if Tebow never takes another snap? No, if anything; they will be better.
Class of '98
September 27th, 2009
11:37 am
All of you who think this was a malicious hit by the UK player are idiots.
Go watch tennis.
bigdawg88
September 27th, 2009
11:40 am
Heck, I was watching the game (why weren’t the Dawgs on?!?) wondering why Tebow was in the game at the start of the 3rd quarter. They were up 31-7 against Kentucky! I’d cuss Mark Richt out if he left Cox in a game like that! Let the young guys get some reps in a game situation. Even with our schizo defense.
The hit was clean, it was his head hitting the offensive lineman’s knee. And Tebow dipped his chin right before he got hit so the pictures don’t show the real story. Look at the replay a little better. The KY players didn’t know he was hurt when they were celebrating, they were just glad they rocked Tebow. Which is precisely WHY YOU DON’T LEAVE YOUR STARTING QB IN WITH A 31-7 LEAD!!!
RDM
September 27th, 2009
11:51 am
Typical Meyer trying to run up the score on an already defeated opponent. It finally backfires and y’all want to blame the other team for a cheap shot? What a freakin joke. It was 31-7 in the 4th quarter! You want to play that way? Then don’t cry wolf when your players get hurt. BTW, Teblow caused the helmet to helmet when he ducked his head at the last second.
ChuyDAWG
September 27th, 2009
11:54 am
I think all DAWGNATION hopes for a full recovery and nothing but the best for Tebow. But lets get a few things straightened out;
1. This is an unfortunate hit that happen and it makes matter worse when you’re trying to run up the scoreboard at their house, I don’t like it but we all know that this the way it goes. But because of this BCS nonsense you have to run up the scoreboard to get a higher ranking, so stop blaming Meyer and Tebow.
2. UF fans are more concerned with the NC chances due to the injury to Tebow than Tim’s health. I am not hating on UF, this is just a fact in my opinion.
3. UK is not a team of thugs, they did what they had to do. Emotions are a big part of the game, get over it.
I honestly thought something like this was going to happen during the TENN game. All the best to Tebow.
Joe Friday
September 27th, 2009
11:57 am
A few comments on how Richt would handle the situation. I don’t recall Cox(and his stats will back this up) getting much playing time before this year.
Observe & Report
September 27th, 2009
12:09 pm
This was nothing more than Florida trying to pad the score for the pollsters. There is no way that your all-world QB should have still been in the game. If I’m a kentucky coach, I tell my player: nice job son,way to go!
I hate jealous people
September 27th, 2009
12:11 pm
First of all I do believe it was a helment to helment hit. But as a football player myself I dont think the kid was trying to lead with his helment. Just think about it. Hes coming around the end and sees a clear shot at tebow and he was so pumped that he just went after him. And for the rest of his life he can say that he sacked Tebow. Im a die hard gator fan and last night I was pissed about the hit but looking back on the tape. The ky players was happy and celebrating but when they seen him just lieing there they quit celebrating. I did see the shirts that said gator haters But that whole stadium proved that that was a false statement. The stadium got so quiet and when Tebow got up they were all cheering. I didnt here them cheer like that the whole game. It made me feel good that they have respect like that. Thats what SEC football is all about. Tebow will be OK. What really pissed me off is I live in morgantown WV and all thes mountaineer fans Hate the gators and Tebow because there jealous. And while Tebow was laying on the ground one of my so called friends sent me a txt message that simply said (superman eh…) I went off on him and now he thinks I over reacted. Can anyone out there tell me If you think I was wrong cause I think that was a classless move. But I guess that is what you should expect from a bunch of wv fans. All they got hope for is a good tailgate and to to wish the worst for all good teams.
I hate jealous people
September 27th, 2009
12:17 pm
Florida was not trying to run up the score. There offense has stuggled passing the ball. The ky game was no more than a scrimmage and they needed the practice. They are off next week and they need to have as much time on the field as possible before the lsu game
dawgster
September 27th, 2009
12:18 pm
TampaGator, please stop with the Coach Richt sent his players on the field to celebrate, I know for a fact, not just his word, but firsthand info from a player that knows the real story and how the players took what Coach Richt said and decided to make a statement in their on way, i think all involved what see how it got out of hand and regret doing it, but in no way did Coach Richt order or suggest the entire team go out on the field, so unless you have some insight that i don’t have in this matter and believe me i do, then stop spouting incorrect info…As far as Tebow, i pray and hope he is ok, he is truly a fine young man, any parent would be proud to have him as their son and any coach would be proud to have him on their team, I don’t know about the Kentucky players celebrating him be hurt, but i have to hope, knowing football players as i do, they all fear having a severe injury or even contributing to or causing an injury to another player…I do think that Coach Meyer loves to run up the scores , I think that him being in the game or not at that point is up to the coaching staff, they have to answer that question, but with that being said, that injury could happen at any point in a game…I will add that some of my biggest gripes with Coach Richt’s game day coaching his that he calls off the dawgs or at least in the past has called off the dawgs when clearly the game was not in doubt and thus we have had teams score or could not score ourselves thus the game was closer than it really was, i know the other players want to play as a reward for all their hard work so this is a good thing and gives young players experience, but unfortunately the pollsters look at the final score make their decisions on where to rank them just based on the final score, until we have a playoff this will still be an issue, it just happens Coach Richt does not believe in doing that, or course at this point in the season this years team probably will not have that problem until other issues are resolved….
I hate jealous people
September 27th, 2009
12:23 pm
Whoever RDM is your a moron. You dont even know about the game it was mid way thru the third qrt. Not the 4th. Myer would have taken him out in the 4th.
John
September 27th, 2009
12:24 pm
The officiating this year is horrible!!!! I am so tired of the oficials calling every little celebration or “helmet to helmet” hit. That was a clean hit and there should be no discussion about it!!! This is D-1 college football….not flag football. You never want to see anyone get hurt, but if anyone is at fault it is Urban “CRYER”!!! Why does he feel the need to score 70 points a game to impress the BCS???? He already has them and the damn media in his pocket. Even if FL losses 3 games, they will still be top ten…..AND IT IS GREAT TO BE A GATOR HATOR!
I hate jealous people
September 27th, 2009
12:25 pm
Whoever RDM is your a moron. You dont even know about the game it was mid way thru the third qrt. Not the 4th. Meyer would have taken him out in the 4th.
I hate jealous people
September 27th, 2009
12:27 pm
John you make me smile because I know you dont hate them. And if you had any sense you would no its not hate you have its jealousy
ReptilesRule
September 27th, 2009
12:29 pm
LOOK at that picture and tell me that’s not a helmet to helmet! Actually in watching the slo-mo video, it definitely looks the Kentucky kid led with his helmet with a shot under the chin. I saw the same thing in the UCLA/Tenn game and the UCLA QB ended up with a broken jaw. Something needs to be done to better protect these players like they do in the NFL. I’ll gaurantee that if that would have occured in the League, it would have drawn a fine.
John
September 27th, 2009
12:33 pm
DOES IT MATTER IF IT WAS OR NOT??? It sucks he got hurt, but it is FOOTBALL!!!!!!!
I hate jealous people
September 27th, 2009
12:34 pm
I agree on that. The player would have been fined in the NFL>
Gator Growl
September 27th, 2009
12:37 pm
Tim’s on his way home on one of the two University’s UAA jets that flew to Lexington Friday, along with Coach Meyer and he is fine. Knowing Tim, he’ll want to go to practice this afternoon. He very tough and has played with injuries before, including a badly broken leg in a game during his Junior year at Nease High School. The University is going to have to restrain him on this one however, and make sure he is A OK. But he is a straight up Warrior.
I hate jealous people
September 27th, 2009
12:38 pm
I agree with john to. Tebow plays hard and it was a matter of time before he got hurt. I do not believe he meant to lead with the helment. If he was Eric Berry then you would have an arguement
John
September 27th, 2009
12:38 pm
You guys just can’t be satisfied that this is a physical sport and that sometimes this will happen. I know you are upset that your “Superman” got hurt, but once again……it is football
Dawgtime
September 27th, 2009
12:39 pm
This has nothing to do with helmet to helmet. He should not have been in the game period.
The game was over. The starters should have been on the bench. If he is on the bench, he wouldn’t be hurt. In terms of the helmet complaint, that is part of football. Reggie Brown was nearly killed by an Auburn player some years ago, but I had no issues with the hit. That is what DB’s are taught to do. Knowshon took some major hits last year but that is part of the game. We are talking about split second decisions for people that are off balance and playing with emotions. I guess Gator players never deliever head shots.
John
September 27th, 2009
12:39 pm
And thank you “I hate jealous people”
dawgster
September 27th, 2009
12:42 pm
ReptilesRule, you need to study more film or actually strap on the helmet and get out on the field, the collisions and speed of the game nowadays is unbelievable and why you can look at this film of this hit from many angles and perceptions, the fact is that football is a collision sport, i saw a similar type hit delivered from the dawgs safety against a Ok State player earlier in the season that did draw a flag and probably changed the outcome of that game, I don’t know how you control some of the hits that are going to occur, you try and protect the players from the intentional illegal hits, but just because a player gets hurt on a violent collision doesn’t mean it was a dirty play, sometimes things just happen, an althought you pray that it want, again football is a collision sport, which reminds me of a statement from a youth coach to our parents before the season, “Parents this is a collision sport, if your children continue to play this game, at some point there will be some injuries, we all hope that they will be minor, but again, this is a collision sport….
Dawgtime
September 27th, 2009
12:48 pm
His head snapped against a lineman’s leg. Any person that cheered when this young man was injuried should be ashamed. This is just a game. The kid has great character. He is a human being first. Stop all the stupid crap.
the real Old Gold
September 27th, 2009
12:48 pm
It’s hard to keep a Heisman winner who’s that passionate and who is probably the best all around player in the history of College Football and maybe college sports in general off of the field. The 4th Quarter obviously, but you can’t take him out that early. If it hadn’t of happened no one would even bring that point up. Gamers play.
ReptilesRule
September 27th, 2009
12:49 pm
dawgster, Played 6 years of H.S. and College ball. What are YOUR credentials???
Joe Friday
September 27th, 2009
12:51 pm
I was a running back in highschool. Got knocked out twice. Had to be woke up with those ammonia packs they used way back in the 70’s(do they still use those?) Anyway, I layed the next week both times, in fact; I never missed practice.
Joe Friday
September 27th, 2009
12:52 pm
Not layed, played.
bigdawg88
September 27th, 2009
12:58 pm
On a somewhat related note: Is it necessary for players to wear hard plastic helmets? Wouldn’t a padded leather helmet (sort of like what boxers wear) work just as well and reduce injuries? I thought I saw some studies about this years ago, but I don’t remember where. They’re not driving in a car, so why the rigid helmets? It may have helped in this case. Not the initial hit, but it may have helped to reduce the damage when his head hit the OL’s knee. Padded leather gives a lot more than a little padding in a plastic helmet.
ReptilesRule
September 27th, 2009
1:00 pm
Joe Friday…ditto with the ammonia packs. It’s a “rude awakening” and leaves that little nagging headache. Remember those little yellow salt pills?? And if you even got near the water hose during practice(yep, that was our sophisticated “hydration” system back at CHS), the coach would give you a dirty look. Sorry about the trip back in time, really old school!!
gatorman770
September 27th, 2009
1:00 pm
Things running through Tebow’s mind when he got hurt:
Continued from BugKillers post above
4)Hopefully BugKiller doesn’t catch aids, but the a&&hole really should with hateful post like his!
CATlanta
September 27th, 2009
1:00 pm
I hope Tim gets well soon, he took one heck of a hit. Secondly, I don’t blame Urban for keeping Tebow in the game. Yes, you put up 31 in the first quarter, but the Gators had trouble putting more points on the board after that. At that point in the game Florida was driving and one more score would have put it in the books decisively. Yes, Kentucky had trouble moving the ball all night but throw in another UK score and it might have changed the complexion of the game. It’s not over until you play a full 60 minutes. Kinda like the last time Florida played UK in Lexington, where Meyer had to put in his 1st string offense late in the 4th quarter. Hindsight is 20/20, don’t blame your coach.
Dawgtime
September 27th, 2009
1:01 pm
so when Tebow runs the QB draw and drops his head which he does in every game, how should someone tackle him? Again, we need to focus on the important stuff and not the silly hate crap. I’m really concerned for the young man.
dawgster
September 27th, 2009
1:16 pm
ReptilesRule, i’m don’t have too spout off about my credentials here, my point is if you truly played the game(i’m trying to figure out the 6 years of H.S), then you know the how you are coached and you know what it takes and what is expected out on that field, and as a player you are taught and coached on how to tackle, how to wrap up and you continue to practice these all of the time, but as i was saying it is a collision sport and violent collisions do happen, we all get excited when a powerful hit is delivered and always hope that the players get up and are ok, but again my point is i could not see anything in that hit that a coach would not feel was an appropriate hit, I feel sure that Tebow would and will say the same thing, it was an unfortunate play, but being around this game for as long as i have, i just don’t see the malicious intent from the kentucky player, if his hit is illegal as was the case for our safety a few weeks back, then a serious look at where we have this game evolved should be reviewed, are there more ways to protect the players, I’m sure they are and there are rules that do this, but many, many hits are a judgement call on the refs part if they fall within the rules…And by the way, Mr. ReptilesRule you can disagree with anytbing i say here, we all have that right, but please don’t quote me your credentials, if you played the game then thats great, i don’t have to do that and feel no reason to quote my credentials, but if i said something on my previous comments that was challenging your credentials, then i apologize, my point was that people who played the game know what its like and realize if you play with intensity, then you know these collisions will happen….
poopdawg
September 27th, 2009
1:22 pm
TampaGator , Florida does not win 2006 natl. champ. without Tebow. He may not of been the starting QB but he was the best RB on that team. Florida’s offense was pretty bad all year. They had their best game on offensive in the championship game . So yes a Tebowless Meyer will be interesting to watch. I would assume next year Florida would abandon the spread which does not favor Brantley. But they didn’t when Leak was their QB.
Doc5000
September 27th, 2009
1:41 pm
To: “I Hate Jealous People.”
Quit worrying about what people in West Virginia think. The entire state is a stagnant genetic backpool. The only good thing about West Virginia is strip mining.
howeyl
September 27th, 2009
1:42 pm
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It was Tim’s 11th pass attempt in the first offensive series of the third quarter. If you look at Colt McCoy, he attempted 38 passes vs UTEP and he also played into their first offensive series of the thrid quarter with a bigger lead
Bamadude2009
September 27th, 2009
1:53 pm
NO WAY Tebow should have been in that game at that point (or really at all). I don’t know why Meyer found it necessary to pad stats against an already beaten Kentucky. Oh well.
I hope Tebow recovers, but a serious concussion like that creates all sorts of follow-on problems.
mike
September 27th, 2009
2:10 pm
MR. MEYER, MR TEBOW, GREED IS A SIN!!!
secondguesser
September 27th, 2009
2:17 pm
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To all the Timmy fans out there, let’s thank god he’s going to be okay. The scary part of the the play was the definite whiplash from Gilbert’s knee. All I could think of was the description of Earnhardt Sr.’s injury description. The difference was Gilbert’s knee didn’t have the same force as going 170 mph and slamming into a concrete wall. Thank God! To all of the Tebow and Myer haters, relax, you should be used to both of them kicking your beloved team’s asses’ by now!!! Guess what, things probably aint gonna change this year or next when Timmy is gone!!! As for the hit itself, it was clean all the way. Could or would it be called illegal in the NFL………probably. As to the Cat fans, they like everybody else celebrated for a good play until they realized the situation could be dire. They are pretty good fans as a whole. FWIW, I’m still a believer we can run the table even if we had to do it with Brantley. For all those bama bandwagoners, weren’t they ranked #1 going inot the SEC championship last year………………with a veteran QB? BTW, Petrino might know offense, but he damn sure aint taught’em how to tackle from what I saw. Hey, didn’t we see that in Atlanta too? I tell ya IT’S GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!!!!!!!!! Team of the decade with coach of the decade and best player of ALL TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReptilesRule
September 27th, 2009
2:48 pm
dawgster…Try reading the WHOLE sentence ( 6 years of HS AND College) and you might increase your understanding…maybe. I can underrstand why you would not want to state your credentials since it’s more than likely you have none. I really didn’t want to mention mine either but YOU put it on the table with your cute little opening statement. Having actually PLAYED the game some years ago, I realize things happen believe me. Violent things. I played on what was called the “suicide squad” back then as well, aka as kickoff coverage team. I’ve been knocked out. So I’m probably a little more aware of what can happen. All I’m sayin’ is I have seen an increasing use of the helmet in the college game. It got so bad in the League that they started issuing severe fines. We need to protect these young men as much as reasonable. I’m not suggesting that the Kentucky player was being in any way malicious, it’s just that these are young guys who think they, and others, are indestructable and they just need to be taught better on how NOT to use the helmet.
Dawg Man
September 27th, 2009
3:40 pm
Meyer will do anything to run up the score, so he can pad his resume for a bigger deal at Notre Dame when they come calling after this season.
UFGrad
September 27th, 2009
3:45 pm
Kentucky fans cheered well into that injury and Kentucky players danced around for just as long…to the point that ESPN cut away to commercial. I guess you have to find something to cheer about after 23 years of beatdowns.
Mr. Thomas Anthony Jones, Sr.
September 27th, 2009
4:31 pm
Teboe should have been in the NFL along with Bradford and Colt McCoy. They might regret not going to pros this year. Always take the money!!!
djawjuh
September 27th, 2009
5:04 pm
I’m a UGA grad and a Dawg lover. Tebow is a great player. I wish he and Urban Meyer wore red and black instead of orange and blue. Fast healing to TT.
djawjuh
September 27th, 2009
5:06 pm
Dawg man does NOT know whereof he speak. Urban Meyer will be in Gainesville for a long time.
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
5:13 pm
poopDawg…why don’t you stay being an expert on Georgia’s team because you have no idea about the Gator’s team, especilly the ‘06 team. The best running back on that team was DeShawn Wynnn, who is currently playing RB for the Green Bay Packers. He played well in ‘06, which made him a NFL draft pick that year. Also, he had a big game in the NC against Ohio State. Tebow basically played only on short yardage situations. He three, I believe, less that 10 passes all year. Chris Leak had a great season and played incredibly well in the NC game. Also, Meyer has never and will never “abandon the spread.” He only adapts plays in the spread as he did in ‘06. Brandley is very mobile and will be able to easily run the spread. He will just not run the ball like Tebow does. That only means Demps, Rainey, Moody, and Gillesie will only run it more…and that is bad news for the SEC.
TampaGator
September 27th, 2009
5:14 pm
Sorry Scott, for misspelling you name…that is John Brantley, poopDawg.
matt
September 27th, 2009
5:24 pm
I don’t think about pulling players until the 4th quarter. So, I don’t blame Meyer for Tebow being in the game. This was a freak accident that could happen at any given point in a game. I’m actually surprised that this has not happened before with the way Tebow plays. Plus the fact that he always lowers his head when taking hits.
As for Tebow missing time. I don’t think it will happen, even though it should. Even a minor concussion calls for a couple of weeks rest and this was not minor. The hit he took to the back of his head from the o-lineman was enough to kill a man. I’m sure Tebow feels like he is taking a boat ride today and he’ll feel like that for several days. If he plays against LSU in 2 weeks, he’ll be risking a more severe concussion from the slightest hit. Big mistake on Meyers part if Tebow plays before the end of October. However, I think Tebow is too much of a competitor to not play and Meyer needs his boy to continue looking good. TT will play against LSU.
This is big news for UF though. I do not trust their running game without Tebow opening up holes. Tebow is a guy defenses have to watch EVERY play. Now without that threat the defense can focus their attention to the other guys. UF’s running game will take a big step back without Tebow.
Texas/Tebow/Gator fan
September 27th, 2009
5:56 pm
I am a TEXAS GATOR fan. Tebow is a fantastic player. I fill Urban Myers
let Tebow play because he wanted to. This is football and it was a accident. I do hope he is well and no head concussion. So I send my best wishes to Tim Tebow that hes well up and going real soon.My most concern is that he is well and no head concussions. GO TEBOW YOU ARE THE BEST.
MJ
September 27th, 2009
6:10 pm
From the pic posted here, it sure looks like a helmet to helmet hit unless my eyesight is bad. On top of that, it’s like being sucker-punched. Why not be a man and hit Tebow that way straight up? Because the player is a coward, and knows that’s the only way he could bring Tebow to his knees. If the player was really trying to make something happen, why not try and aim for stripping or knocking the ball out instead of knocking the player out? Perhaps they coach them differently in Kentucky.
Tebow will be back, and you can bet he will be madder and badder than ever!!
Go Gators!!
poopdawg
September 27th, 2009
6:16 pm
TampaGator , i’m no expert on anything . Tebow was made for the spread, he is awesome . But if it’s 3rd and 2 or 3yds to go i would give it to my best rb. Deshawn Wynn was the main back , but Tebow got the call when they had to have it. Brantley would probably be the most effective qb against the dawgs this year, with his passing ability. Dawgs are having problems covering anybody, thank god arizona state had trouble passing.
collegeballfan
September 27th, 2009
6:51 pm
NO he should not have been in the game. But very few college coaches have the guts to take out Heisman quality starters just because they have a big lead. Very few indeed.
collegeballfan
September 27th, 2009
6:53 pm
MJ The damage came when he hit his head on his own players knee.
doggit
September 27th, 2009
7:45 pm
Mark – that was the dumbest thing I’ve read today – thanx
jpgator
September 27th, 2009
8:16 pm
This is the SEC! 31 points is not necessarily a big lead in this conference. Meyer was right to keep Tebow in the game. It looked like a clean hit in the endless replays on TV. I was angry about the celebrating because it seemed more that what UF was penalized for last week. I don’t think anyone ever want a player to receive a bad injury, and the KY fans bore that out. We loive you, Tim, so please wait until you’re healthy to return. GO GATORS!
dawgster
September 27th, 2009
8:23 pm
ReptilesRule, I reread your earlier post, it still states “6 years of H.S. and college ball”, could read into that 2 different ways but i’ll concede you the point….With all of your credentials, that you so well stated, then you should understand the point i am trying to make, yes i think we should try and protect the players wherever and whenever we can, but helmet to helmet collisions are going to occur for many reasons, wrong technique, both players lower their heads and shoulders as Tebow does all of the time when trying to run over or thru someone, when you lead with the helmet and leave your feet using your head/helmet as a weapon, then yes it should be a penalty, there is no place in football at any level for that to be intentional, Again, I hope Tebow is ok and appears from what i have been told and read that he will be, but will need some time to heal…Again I am not questioning your credentials, I do not feel that stating my credentials or where or how many years i played H.S., College Ball, or been involved in coaching really should not have alot of bearing on whether the Kentucky player had an illegal hit on Tebow, I’m sure half the people that saw will say it was and the other half will say it wasn’t..I think it is time to let this issue go for both of us and others, and just hope and pray that this football season has anymore scares like this one, that may be alot to hope for given the nature this sport…
Legend of Len Barker
September 27th, 2009
10:08 pm
Why are all the Gator fans here? I thought they had newspapers in Florida. Guess they’re not interesting when there is no one to argue with on those.
Urban Meyer loves running up the score. And running his mouth. I have the feeling he won’t stick around too many years without his sainted meal ticket. With Tebow, Meyer can pretend to be classy and an upright citizen.
But Meyer is not the only one these days running up the score. Sixty-four points were really necessary against UTEP, Mack Brown? I believe Richt is the only coach in the nation who really tries not to humiliate his opponents.
Unfortunately, it’s Meyer/Mack/Carroll way of thinking that the NCAA pundits are convinced is correct. Running up the score against hapless opponents proves you’re a better coach in their eyes.
Perhaps this episode will help convince everyone that just because your opponents are bad doesn’t mean your star players are invincible.
lakesidegator
September 28th, 2009
9:22 am
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SEC fan—Maybe Florida players DID kick Bama players on the ground in last year’s SEC championship game. So what? I mean, they were BAMA players, so it was okay…..
Dan
September 28th, 2009
11:36 am
BAHAHAHA MALICIOUS HIT!? Urban Meyer himself called it a clean hit. There was absolutely NO helmet to helmet contact as I was at the game and watched the replay over and over again. Of course the bulk of the injury was sustained by his head and neck being snapped by the knee of his own player. Cry more Florida fans, we took your hero. KY is known for big hits. If you are scared don’t come to play us. This is our house. We represent. Maybe we lost the game, but your hero has shown he has weaknesses. But not even he is proclaiming the hit was malicious and whining like a baby like half of the posts on here. Good luck with the rest of your season Florida…lmfao.
Jim
September 28th, 2009
1:46 pm
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Meyer is an idiot!
Deborah
September 28th, 2009
2:34 pm
I do not think that we should second guess the coach. The game was not won yet and I also do not think that Urban would want to jeopardize Tebow’s health.
As for the hit, I agree with ck gator “The hit was clean and not that devastating. The real trauma occurred on the way down – when he hit is head on his own player’s knee.” I do not believe that the UK player was deliberately trying to hurt Tebow. Football is a rough and tough game and people do occasionally get hurt.
I am sending TEBOW my best wishes and prayers for a speedy recovery.
Want2know
September 28th, 2009
4:53 pm
I wish Tim a speedy recovery. I would really like to know the extent of the injury. Will he be able to play against LSU? I just hate the mystery and keeping his condition hidden over the next two weeks. I know that the coaches will dance around the question. Does it look like he can play or not? Spare the crap! Get well Tim but regain you health fully before you return.
D in Cali
September 28th, 2009
8:26 pm
Thats what that snake Meyer gets. The game was clearly over, at no point was the opponent showing that they could compete with the superior team. He kept Tebow in to pad his stats for his stupid Heisman campaign, and to run up the score for the polls. A really idiotic move. People should just call it for what it is instead of politicking for it to be otherwise. Tebow gets a clean hit and is flattened. Now he may get hurt more easily as the season goes on…. That’s what you get!