Atlanta Braves: Should John Smoltz be re-signed to help Braves bullpen?

The Boston Red Sox cut John Smoltz Friday after the veteran pitcher, signed as a free agent this past January, managed only a 2-5 record in eight starts with an 8.33 ERA.

YOU TELL US: Do you think Smoltz, who racked up 154 saves from 2001-04 as Atlanta’s closer, should be re-signed to help in the Braves bullpen? Or is he, at age 42 and coming off shoulder rehab, simply out of gas?

352 comments Add your comment

AtlantaNative62

August 10th, 2009
11:05 am

Give him a shot at the bullpen. Other than Lance Armstrong, no athlete I’ve ever seen is more resilient than Smoltz. Give him three shots. If he can’t do it, retire him while he’s wearing an Atlanta jersey….which is the way is should be.

Father Time

August 10th, 2009
11:08 am

Father Time has caught up with him as it does us all. I think he should get the retired jersey
ceremony and maybe a broadcasting stint on Sport South.

18 Wheels of Love

August 10th, 2009
11:10 am

What part of his 8+ ERA do you consider worthy of our bullpen?

He had his shot, he chose to take more money, which I have no problem with, but he then made the mistake of throwing the Braves completely under the bus to the press.

Pass.

josh

August 10th, 2009
11:11 am

No way!!!!!! If you put him on this team and he struggles, Bobby won’t have the heart to sit him. He’ll keep throwing him out there like Francouer, Bennett, Acosta, and everyone else at the expense of the team.

Smoltz moved on and so should the Braves.

braveman

August 10th, 2009
11:12 am

i say bring him back and stick him in the pen…. just in case soriano starts to struggle.

Alex

August 10th, 2009
11:12 am

Give him until late Sept and bring him up for a final push if the Braves are close. Bottom line is this dude can pitch in the post season as long as you give him time to rest. Sox rushed him back, IMO.

insman

August 10th, 2009
11:13 am

Give him a chance. He’s a Brave. Best closer the Braves have had in their francise history.

michael

August 10th, 2009
11:14 am

make him the pitching coach!!!!!!!!

Greg from Marietta

August 10th, 2009
11:15 am

NO, Tom has run out of gas and it’s time for him to hang it up. He’s been a great pitcher and will go down in history as such but his stint with Boston demonstrated that he’s no longer the “Tom Terrific” we once knew. I respect him as a man but his usefulness as a pitcher has past.

Nativebird

August 10th, 2009
11:15 am

Out of gas. Get lost. Had the chance to stay, but you badmouthed us for a few (more) million dollars. I vote no. 29 stay’s an unretired uni as well.
bye bye.

dmack2027

August 10th, 2009
11:15 am

no chance he returns given how things transpired this offseason.

BubbaDaBatta

August 10th, 2009
11:16 am

The Braves are 4.5 Games out of 1st! Why would you want to take up a Roster spot just to have the “name”?…Besides, he probably didn’t ingratiate himself with Braves Management with his parting shots and comments about Tom Glavine’s release…

Bravesfan54

August 10th, 2009
11:17 am

Hell to the no.

Roger

August 10th, 2009
11:17 am

In my heart I would love to see Smoltz on the mound for the Braves again but since Tom Glavine got the shaft from Wren, I think it would be counter productive to bring Smoltz back and maybe cause more hurt feelings. Just let Smoltz go on and retire. Give him a jersey retirement ceremony like Greg Maddux.

Reid Adair

August 10th, 2009
11:19 am

I say no. Not because I don’t think he has the potential to help, but because I think the Braves burned their bridge with John Smoltz when Frank Wren and company lied to the fans and the public, claiming the Braves’ offer was similar to Boston’s.

Chris

August 10th, 2009
11:20 am

Greg – quit taking drugs. It might help you remember who we’re talking about.

We’re going to need someone very soon with the way our pen has been worked. That’s all I’ll say. It needs to be him or someone else.

RemoW

August 10th, 2009
11:21 am

No way. This team has just found it own identity after exercising the ghosts of league championships past. I think it would mess up the chemistry and he just isn’t the same pitcher.

N8

August 10th, 2009
11:23 am

“What part of his 8+ ERA do you consider worthy of our bullpen?”

I did an extensive number crunch on DOB’s blog the other day, and even with his recent struggles, his “bad numbers” have mostly been the 2nd and 3rd (when he has actually gotten that far) time through the order.

Other than his first inning of the season, he has allowed only 1 ER in his other 7 “1st innings”, and has and ERA under 3.00 in the first three innings of each game.

So to me it’s not about the numbers. It has way more to do with his attitude, pizzing and moaning and his general mud slinging at the organization after HE LEFT and when Glavine was not called up over Hanson. So, I’d lean towards “no” based on that.

But ultimately, the question should come down to these three “points”:

A) Can he still help us more than say Acosta in the bullpen, thus giving Moylan, Gonzo and Soriano the occasional break?

B) Would he be interested in being the 3rd or 4th guy out of the bullpen?

C) Can Wren and Smoltz get over their own egos to make it happen if the answers to A & B are “yes”?

Doug B

August 10th, 2009
11:24 am

Money will be an issue unless he clears waivers and then we can pick him up for the minimal.

dap01

August 10th, 2009
11:27 am

Sign him cheap. Let him prove himself in Gwinnett. Then bring him up for a set up role or simply let him retire a Brave.

Flanagan

August 10th, 2009
11:27 am

Why not? Let him do a couple of relief innings to help rest the bullpen for the stretch run. It would be a good P.R. move for one, and two you have nothing to lose. If he has anything left at all, he would be worth it. If not, at least you mend fences with a guy that gave the team everything he had.

Remember, this is the national league where he would be more comfortable. And his post season experience would be valuable to these guys if they made a run here at the end!

Boribrave

August 10th, 2009
11:28 am

eastbound and down

August 10th, 2009
11:30 am

i would bring him back. the closer role for the braves remains suspect

N8

August 10th, 2009
11:32 am

“And his post season experience would be valuable to these guys if they made a run here at the end!”

Totally agree with that statement. Just having him sitting down in the bullpen is worth whatever it costs, imo. He’s got more post-season experience (not to mention, success), than the entire bullpen combined. Does anybody in our bullpen even have an inning of playoff experience? Soriano maybe?

Ken

August 10th, 2009
11:32 am

Yes, he should have stayed in the bullpen all along. It was a mistake to start using him as a starter again. We could really use him as a setup man or even a closer.

MajorPain

August 10th, 2009
11:33 am

No, not now not ever. At this moment, Smoltz is not better than any of the starting five and does not ahve the right personality for this bull pen. Smoltz has to be the man, the man in the spotlight. At best he would be alowly set up guy. Why ruin the good chemistry with a bad ego?

Dawg19

August 10th, 2009
11:33 am

Closer role suspect? Soriano has had 2 bad games this year. Gonzo was very good for a while.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Smoltz out of the Bullpen. Would be ironic if he left the Braves to go to a contender (and more money) then came back and ultimately helped the Braves into the post season again. Dreaming here, but would be funny if the Braves met the Red Sox in the WS and Smoltz was a dominant force against them.

Dobearsbare

August 10th, 2009
11:33 am

Uh, no. Unless he wants to do it for free.

midnite

August 10th, 2009
11:34 am

You can’t go back folks, let the Braves move forward without the dead weight er,uh, dead arm. Frank Wren did not lie about the contract, with incentives reached it was near the same money.

H.T.

August 10th, 2009
11:35 am

He is done. He should have walked away after last season.

Joe Fan

August 10th, 2009
11:36 am

I would offer him a minor league contract, see how he respodns for the G-Braves and if things look good bring in up when rosters expand in September. Can’t hurt to have his arm in the pen, if he has anything left, for the final push

Stephen

August 10th, 2009
11:36 am

If you watched him in the first inning of his last start he was actually pretty good. His velocity was decent (92-93 mph) and he was narrowly missing strikes and not getting some calls he probably would get elsewhere (yankees home game). Personally, every time I see him in a Red Sox uni it kind of hurts a little. I would love to see him back in the bullpen, give him a shot.

cdog

August 10th, 2009
11:37 am

before everyone has the braves in the playoffs and world series, the braves has to prove they can beat the teams in their division. the nationals especially. the nats own the braves.bobby cox is geared up to put kelly johnson back in the lineup which will spell trouble for the braves.until they learn to beat the nats and marlins they will come up short

Moundtain Getaway

August 10th, 2009
11:37 am

If we can get him for the minimum, then it may be worth it for his experience alone. We have to have some bullpen help unless they decide to stick Huddy in there for the rest of the year, or KK, either way. If they do that then I say no, otherwise do it for the min.

cdog

August 10th, 2009
11:38 am

bring back smoltz and release manny acosta. he can’t do any worse than soriano and acosta

Moundtain Getaway

August 10th, 2009
11:39 am

cdog- I can’t see Cox giving KJ the starting 2nd basemen again right now. Prado is still on fire and Kelly is proving useful off the bench..worlds above Norton!

Larry

August 10th, 2009
11:41 am

Let him clear waivers, then pick him up on the cheap and put him in the pen. Let him close when we are up big. I just want to be able to go to the ballpark and watch Smoltz walk from the pen to the mound in the 9th while they play Thunderstruck. That is pure awesome.

bubba

August 10th, 2009
11:42 am

Who would be paying his guaranteed contract?

Dawg19

August 10th, 2009
11:42 am

What is going on with people being down on Soriano? Here are his numbers for the season:
IP W S K ERA WHIP K/9
52.0 1 17 69 2.42 0.96 11.94

That is not struggling!!!!!!!

Marcus

August 10th, 2009
11:43 am

Interesting prospect.
If both parties were amenable, I would say “go for it …” but the pride of Mr. Wren and Smoltzie would torpedo this deal before it even got a head of steam.

Kendawg

August 10th, 2009
11:43 am

I doubt if Smoltz’s ego would allow him to be a set-up man in the bullpen. Aside from that, his behavior after the Braves failed to sign him and his statements about Glavine being cut would render him untouchable in my eyes. Besides, everything has always been about him, not the team. I say NO!!!!!!!

Dawg19

August 10th, 2009
11:43 am

Bubba, the guaranteed contract would be paid by Boston. Once Smoltz clears waivers and is released any team can sign him for the league minimum.

18 Wheels and a Dozen Roses

August 10th, 2009
11:45 am

If Glavine went through rehab and got cut loose, then no dice for Smoltz, move on. It’s all sentimentality.

Brave 4 ever

August 10th, 2009
11:46 am

Say no to Smoltz and drugs.

The Grinch

August 10th, 2009
11:46 am

ABSOLUTELY NOT. Smoltz got 14 mil to sit in the broadcast booth last year, then refused a perfectly reasonable, incentive laden offer to finish a 22 year career with the team who made him a very, very rich man. Not only did he sell out to the opposition for the eqiv. (to him) of pennies, but he trashed the team, the city and left his teammates hanging in the wind. Thankfully, Wren was correct (as he usually is) and we did better without him. We owe him nothing but a swift kick in his greedy, self-righteous posterior. His bust in Cooperstown should be of a golf cart with cash flying out of the back.

Arkansas Transplant

August 10th, 2009
11:46 am

He would be well worth the risk. And in sports, risk is what its all about. You never know, you might just catch lightining in a bottle. Could you imagine if Smoltz was to right himself just in time for the playoffs? There is quite the opportunity for high reward here. Plus, think of the influence he brings to the clubhouse. I think if there was even the remote chance of bringing him back for this last little push you’d be stupid not to at least investigate it. I think this is another low risk, high reward opportunity.

Livin IN AL

August 10th, 2009
11:46 am

Interesting question, I try to project toward the last 10-15 games of the season and we are hot on the tail of the Phillies; Moylan, Soraino, and Gonzales have made umpteen appearances all with repaired arms, would I rather see Boone Logan, Manny Acosta, or Smoltz try to hold that critical game(s) for a couple of innings? ..Send Smoltz to AAA Gwinnett for a while( in his backyard) and then give him the chance.

Dawg20

August 10th, 2009
11:47 am

Soriano is in a mini(?) slump. To point solely to his season stats and ignore the blown saves of late is, well, dumb. Here’s hoping he snaps back quick. We need him.

L.W. Copok

August 10th, 2009
11:48 am

Smoltz could make this team better……even if he doesn’t pitch like he used too, simply his presence could make the Braves a better team. I don’t think Smoltz is done and I think he can still get out National L. hitters out…..as a closer anyway. I think he can easily gain 3 to 5 mph on his fastball as his arm gets stronger. With his knowledge of pitching and WINNING he is worth a shot….especially at the league minimum. Put him on the team and if he doesn’t do well leave him off the playoff roster….simple as that.

TampaGator

August 10th, 2009
11:48 am

cdog..Acosta has better stuff than Smoltz right now. If they sign him, he goes to AAA until Sept 1 to build his arm strenght and then see if he can help the Braves (which I don’t see Smoltz doing). It would be nice to see Smoltzie out there again (you Smoltz haters tend to forget what the man did for the Braves for so many years) in a Braves uniform. Maybe a September call up and, if he can’t pitch, he can at least retire wearing a Braves cap instead of one of those “buy the WS title” teams like the Red Sox and Yankees. By the way, is anyone else sick of the “Red Sox and Yankees” series hype…you would think they are the only two teams in basball according to ESPN and MLB.com. The Braves and Dodgers played a great series and you would not even have know they played if you were watching ESPN this weekend.

Arkansas Transplant

August 10th, 2009
11:51 am

L.W. Your looking at the whole picture like me. There’s definitly high reward on bringing him back.

Dawg19

August 10th, 2009
11:52 am

Soriano has had 3 total bad nights out of 52 appearances. Ill take that from a reliever any time. Look at the work load he has received lately, that will get anybody tired and cause some control issues and loss of velocity. Soriano is sick and unless his arm falls off, there is no need for worry.

count_schemula

August 10th, 2009
11:53 am

Not worried about Soriano here. He’ll always give up the occasional long ball (which can be a KILLER in the post-season), but look, he gave up the walk off in Game against the Dodgers, and then pitched for the 3rd and 4th day in row. I like his calm demeanor, and he has the mind of a closer. You can’t do anything about the last pitch, only the next pitch. Gonzo should be used sometimes, but his wild man style means his control will never be all that great. Most teams would kill to have Gonzo and Soriano in the same pen. What Bobby needs to do is quit burning them in non-critical situations.

jch

August 10th, 2009
11:54 am

No, he can’t help.

Next silly question?

count_schemula

August 10th, 2009
11:55 am

btw, Smoltz chose to burn bridges, so… we don’t have a spot for him now. He got the money, which is fine, but then he was an azz about it. That was not fine.

Pal Joey

August 10th, 2009
11:56 am

Some players just don’t know when it is time to hang it up. Glavine is one, and now Smoltz seems to be another. These guys were great in their prime, but they are done as major league pitchers. Father time has caught up with them and they should go gracefully into the sunset without making fools of themselves at this late date. Hang it up, guys. Let us remember you as you were, not as hangers on who just can’t let go. Maddux has the good sense to quit when it became apparent he couldn’t do it anymore. You should do the same.

Arkansas Transplant

August 10th, 2009
11:56 am

For all of you that say, “he doesn’t have it anymore.” There are young guys in the majors that can’t throw as hard as he is right now. He still has the stuff, he’s just missing something right now to bring it all together. Maybe a move back to Atlanta where he’s more comfortable and familiar would help. But he hasn’t lost anything.. the only thing I’ve seen a change in, is his location. Looks like he’s not locating as well as he use too. But that’s something that’s easily fixed with reps. He could easily pitch at AAA to resolve that issue and be back up for the Sept. run.

count_schemula

August 10th, 2009
11:57 am

People down on Soriano. People wanting to trade Vasquez who has been money all season long. Vasquez and McCann are are heart of this team. When Vasquez through the complete game loss, he sealed the deal for me. We OWE Vazquez success.

count_schemula

August 10th, 2009
11:59 am

threw… argh

NC Braves Fan

August 10th, 2009
12:00 pm

No no NO! Bad call all the way around.

RDM

August 10th, 2009
12:00 pm

Personally, I think he burned a bridge when he publicly slammed the Braves and particularly Frank Wren after they cut Glavine. By the way, both of the moves that the Braves made with Smoltz and Glavine turned out to be the right moves. You can’t run a successful club based on sentimental ties to former players. Smoltz was a great Brave back in the day and he was paid very well for his services. The Braves don’t owe him anything at this point. He’s had 400+ surgeries and should hang it up.

Jay

August 10th, 2009
12:01 pm

The Red Sox didnt rush him back…its August for crying out loud!

Pepe Frias

August 10th, 2009
12:01 pm

He should retire and go on tour with Winger.

OneEyed Jack

August 10th, 2009
12:01 pm

He may be through, but Bobby uses up a bullpen and the Braves could use another arm.

Why not sign him to a minor league contract, let him spend a rehab stint in Rome, and if he performs, bring him up in Sept?

curtis jones

August 10th, 2009
12:02 pm

Smoltz is obviously through. Sort of like Greg Norton, who retired earlier this year, and failed to tell anyone. But for the immediate future, as in THIS WEEK, the Braves need to send down Boone Logan, and activate a hitter, like Brooks Conrad, Chris Burke, Barbaro Canizares or an outfielder.

We have two off days this week, Kawakami will move to the bullpen as an extra reliever, giving us way too many pitchers, and not enough bats off the bench. If Cox is smart, and is serious about making a playoff run, he will make this move before Tuesday’s game.

rick

August 10th, 2009
12:04 pm

YES (if we can get him cheap!)

CommonSenseRules

August 10th, 2009
12:06 pm

I think that the Smoltz bridge has been burned from both directions. It’s time to let the next guy who is ready for a moment to shine to do just that.

Larry Skinner

August 10th, 2009
12:07 pm

I’M pretty sure Smoltzie is better than some of our current bullpen staff. Sure give him a try. John just might be inspired enough to give you his best for the next few months.

Lew

August 10th, 2009
12:09 pm

Bridges burned, fork inserted. Time to play golf with Tommy and enjoy retirement. He just got remarried. He has enough to keep him occupied.

Farsider

August 10th, 2009
12:09 pm

No, no, no, no, no.

No way. Bridges have been burnt here. Next time Smoltz comes back is when they have a day honoring him after he retires (if he decides to show up).

Kevrock/Smarty Jones

August 10th, 2009
12:09 pm

Why not! He has the velocity that is for sure. He is just missing with his location. IF he was willing to do it I think it would be a great story BUT if he continues to struggle we would have to let him know we would let him go as well.

Bill Weston

August 10th, 2009
12:09 pm

it’s lame questions like this that show that the AJC is less than a shell of it’s former self. What a total waste of time and effort.

Patty321

August 10th, 2009
12:10 pm

if you want the braves to go to the playoffs they do need another bullpen guy but sadly john smoltz isnt the anwser

Freedog

August 10th, 2009
12:10 pm

I’d take him over Acosta or anybody else in middle relief role. Plus his postseason experience would be huge.

Herschel Talker

August 10th, 2009
12:10 pm

While you’re at it, throw Glavine out there too.

He is out of gas. He will blow important games down the stretch. Terrible idea.

59bulldawg

August 10th, 2009
12:11 pm

I’m torn about a Smoltz return. Love the guy but think his time may have passed. But not sold on Soriano either! Seems like every time I read a box score he’s screwing up a chance for a Braves win.

Bill Weston

August 10th, 2009
12:11 pm

For those of you who caught it, sorry I meant to delete the apostrophe in my second “its”

Benny

August 10th, 2009
12:11 pm

Don’t forget about all the crap Smoltz said about the Braves when they did not sign him and when they cut Glavine. The Braves made him a very rich man and that was the thanks he gave them. The Braves don’t need Smoltz! Put Tim Hudson in the bullpen.

Why Not

August 10th, 2009
12:12 pm

I don’t see how a team that is still in contention for the playoffs could let Smoltz get his act together in the major leagues. I think he needs some more time in the minors. If he is going to play in the minors, why not play for the Gwinnett Braves. He only lives a few miles away.

Lank

August 10th, 2009
12:14 pm

I’d love to see him take Acosta’s spot in the bullpen. Don’t think Wren will make that happen though, unless he tells Bobby to use him everyday to destroy his arm for good. Also, when Hudson comes back, it seems the consensus is to move KK to the bullpen (and I assume drop Logan?). So the pen could have Kawakami, Smoltz, Medlen, Moylan, O’Flaherty, Gonzalez, and Soriano.

braves5bobblehead

August 10th, 2009
12:15 pm

Smoltz is finished, he should retire like Maddox did and not ruin his legacy. He will not have the glory of the past in the bullpen or starting after several arm surgeries. He man is 42 years old, so he would be a better coach than pitcher.

Taylor

August 10th, 2009
12:16 pm

Jimv

August 10th, 2009
12:16 pm

Of course let him come back. He can help that bullpen and, of course, retire with a Braves jersey. A no-brainer!

pd

August 10th, 2009
12:16 pm

When Hudson comes back, we will have 6 starters. We should put two of them in the pen. I don’t care about egos. Kawakami should be penned for sure. Then it comes down to Jerjens and Hudson. One of you is relief.

We only need a 4 starter rotation anyway in the post season. (IF THERE IS ONE)

Marc in FL

August 10th, 2009
12:19 pm

I think Smoltz’s ERA the first time through the line-up is like 2.00 or so this year. Guys like that are usually pretty good in the pen. I don’t see the harm in giving him a chance, it’s not like it would cost much.

Frankie Knuckles

August 10th, 2009
12:21 pm

Yes, but first, he must publicly admit that Wren has done a fantastic job this year. Keeping McLouth under the radar and pulling the trigger when he did was simply brilliant. Call me nostalgic, I want to see Smoltz walk off the the mound for the last time in a Braves uni.

bruce

August 10th, 2009
12:21 pm

Gwinnett first til he and Frank think he is ready to replace either Manny Acosta or Boone Logan… would much rather have Smoltz than either of them if he proves to himself he is capable at Gwinnett… chalk it all up to it takes a year to rehab a shoulder like that one.

I believe Smoltz wants to pitch more than retire because he has not proven to himself that he has failed yet, the rehab is incomplete and the work to get this far is such a huge investment. Boston could not wait any longer…. unless he goes to Pawtucket. That would not suprise me… take a couple more weeks to figure it out, strengthen further… Best wishes John in whatever you decide.

George Holman

August 10th, 2009
12:25 pm

Smoltz, like Glavine, did not know when to quit. I say there is nothing left and it is time to move on. Thanks goes to Wren for not going with emotion in trying to keep these guys. They will always be Braves, and all of the fans will be grateful for their numerous contributions, but I say it is time to move from the past and be thankful for the pitching staff that has been assembled. With a little bit of consistent hitting the Braves just might do it this year!

rich

August 10th, 2009
12:26 pm

Greg from Marietta – you are an idiot.
We are talking about Smoltz here not Glavine, you moron

YoungerThan ThatNow

August 10th, 2009
12:27 pm

Soriano isn’t in a slump!!! He’s been over-worked a little the past couple of weeks and he needed a little breather. Any pitcher who throws as he does cannot do it over a 3-5 days span on a daily basis, even for one inning. He’s got to have some time to rest and recover. Gonzo is the same way and if you’ll remember back a few years, Smoltz and every other hard throwing closer was that way.

But to answer the question at hand… I don’t know. I’m not convinced that he has enough gas left to go an inning a game even 2-3 times a week… maybe he has and can get it done. But IMO he took a little more money (which is all it was in the context of how much money he’s made in his career) and CHOSE to go to Boston.

prattvillenolzfan

August 10th, 2009
12:27 pm

Hey N8

I usually agree with what you have to say, but not in this instance. I DO agree however that his presence would be an influence around the pitchers.

However, for him to return to the Braves, would be for Smoltz to publicly admit that HE screwed up in leaving, and that WREN was RIGHT.

SMOLTZ’S EGO IS NOT GOING TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

What would be interesting though, and it would enable him to spend time around the players, is to pair him up with Simpson and Boog (or Chip, during the PTV broadcasts).

I have always admired Smoltz throughout the years, however I lost a ton of respect for him after he trashed the Braves this past year.

Also N8, any coincidence that once again, during a big series, our “LEADER” comes up hurt, only this time, we win 3 in a row……..

miami rico

August 10th, 2009
12:28 pm

Let the old workhorse go off into pasture. He’s a hall of famer, let him enjoy retirement.

Marc in FL

August 10th, 2009
12:30 pm

Lol, what is it with society today and the blame game. He doesn’t have to apologize to anyone to come back. All he needs to come back is for Wren to offer him a deal. Simple as that. These people are professionals, they don’t let emotion drive their careers.

louisville slugger

August 10th, 2009
12:30 pm

I’d only consider bringing him back if (a) he passes through waivers and signs for the prorated minimum and (b) agrees to pitch in relief for the G-Braves until he proves he has somewhat close to his old stuff back. Otherwise, no, but thanks for the memories.

Ron

August 10th, 2009
12:30 pm

Heck yeah. As a closer. Have a contract that is contingent on how he does in x number of games before contract is finalized. If it has to be a million for a year,etc. then we can’t afford to take the chance.

Steve

August 10th, 2009
12:31 pm

I would love to see Smoltz come back and make an impact, but the team only recently seems to be establishing an identity for itself. I think the potential benefit comes with too much chance of a downside in terms of distraction.

Tami

August 10th, 2009
12:31 pm

First of all: Would Smoltz even come back to the Braves? Hard to say.

I think right now, though…maybe more so than any time in his career, he’s ready to be in and stay in a limited bullpen role. It would be fantastic if he could be the Braves’ closer again. Does anyone think he still has the “stuff” to be a closer again? The numbers he was putting up with the BoSox has me concerned that he might not. But, I’d be OK with him having a throwing session with the Braves’ coaches to explore this possibility.

count_schemula

August 10th, 2009
12:31 pm

FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!

GermanBravesFan

August 10th, 2009
12:33 pm

Sign him to a minor league deal (or have the Red Sox pay his salary), send him to Gwinett where he can prove himself. If it works, great. If not, release him.

The Grinch

August 10th, 2009
12:35 pm

What’s all this about bringing him back as a coach? Did you all not read his comments? He’s a whiny, self-centered @$$-clown who ditched his teammates in the off-season before any moves were made to rebuild the club. What exactly would we benefit from having him mold young players in his image? That would be an even worse idea than bringing him back to pitch.

Now MADDUX would make a great coach.

Capt Caveman

August 10th, 2009
12:36 pm

Smoltz isn’t coming back so this is a moot point.

Billy

August 10th, 2009
12:36 pm

Time for a little magic here folks. Let him clear wavers, get him cheap then send him to the minors to strengthen his arm. Bring him up in mid September and put him in the pen. This Braves team is showing some of it’s past glory these last couple of weeks. Why not see if Smoltz can add to the magic by inspiring and most importantly pitching his last season into the playoffs. I think the baseball Gods might like this story.

MWGT1990

August 10th, 2009
12:36 pm

Bring Tom and John back for a one day contract so they retire as Braves. Then retire their jerseys and put them in the brodcasting booth together. It’s time.

TN Jeff

August 10th, 2009
12:37 pm

Minor League contract to begin with – it’s a no brainer

Raphy "Witch Doctor" Soriano

August 10th, 2009
12:38 pm

One walkoff homerun doesn’t mean I should lose my job to Grandpa!!!!

childrojc

August 10th, 2009
12:38 pm

The braves are overloaded on pitching with Hudson coming back, but they do need another option for the 7th, 8th, or even the ninth. All egos aside John Smoltz for league minimum makes sense especially if they only use him sparingly until the play offs come. By the way when was the last game smoltz came in up 2 runs in the ninth and gave up 2 base hits and a WALK OFF home run? Soriano and Gonzo need a proven arm to fit in…… not steal the show! The real question is how does Frank Wren see the situation?

Chains

August 10th, 2009
12:39 pm

Time to make a tee time..Johnny, That way we don’t have another sob story about a braves hero been done wrong…..he’s always been a complainer. join Glavine in the discount bin at Has been world…..

Tami

August 10th, 2009
12:39 pm

Agree with The Grinch @ 12:35 pm. I would LOVE to see Mad Dog as a pitching coach….for the Braves. It would hurt too much to see him doing this elsewhere. John wouldn’t make a bad coach either. BUT! He has to let go of some of his inner grudge against the Braves’ front office first to have the proper clarity that is needed to coach the young guys. Otherwise, it could turn out the way you describe.

Dave

August 10th, 2009
12:40 pm

This is NOT the time to be sentimental about the past. The Braves are back in the pennant race, and they need EVERY pitcher in the bullpen to be able to contribute.

Quite frankly, it is unlikely that Smoltz will be able to contribute in any significant way.

Plus we have to find room for Hudson soon!

Sorry, but it is time to cut the cord wth Smoltz, except for a return visit to have his number retired ala Greg Maddux.

jimmy

August 10th, 2009
12:41 pm

by sll means give him a chance

Charlie Lau

August 10th, 2009
12:41 pm

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

…but get Maddux involved with the organization.

Tami

August 10th, 2009
12:42 pm

Good idea, MWGT1990. However, they both must be affordable. They should take roster spots that the top minor leaguers have earned to come up to Atlanta in September for the stretch run. If there are two extra spots left, sure. Bring them both in. Couldn’t hurt. They could mentor the starters & the bullpen.

Tami

August 10th, 2009
12:42 pm

Correction @ my 12:42 post: They should NOT take roster spots that the top minor leaguers have earned….

Sorry about that.

HAL

August 10th, 2009
12:44 pm

since tom glavine got the shaft from wren??? I see about thirty other gm’s breaking doswn toms door and one whjo wishes he never heard of john smoltz lol

Cream Daddy Puff Muffin

August 10th, 2009
12:45 pm

Nope. He’s done. Don’t get me wrong… Smoltz was a great pitcher, but he should have stayed in the bullpen after his first comeback. This would have extended his career, and made him the greatest reliever the game has ever seen. My hat’s off to John for a great career, but recent performance proves that he can’t perform at a competitive level anymore. All ballplayers have to face the inevitable that it’s time to hang the cleats up one day, and unfortunately this time has come for John. We wish you the best, and thanks for all the memories.

Tami

August 10th, 2009
12:46 pm

LOL @ Hal. It’s interesting, isn’t it, that Tom doesn’t seem to have received any offers. But, there could be some pretty desperate teams (like the Muts…’cuse me, the Mets) that might be needing ANY pitcher whose arm hasn’t fallen off yet.

Dave

August 10th, 2009
12:47 pm

BTW, I would not have a problem with either Smoltz, Glavine or Maddux being a pitching coach or a boradcaster. I believe they would be outstanding in either role.

I personally believe that Maddux served as “THE ACTUAL” pitching coach during the bulk of Leo Mazzoni’s tenure as the pitching coach, AND I suspect most of baseball shares that opinion. If I am wrong, then WHY is Leo working in sports talk radio and NOT as a pitching coach for one of the 30 MLB teams???

However, once Smoltz DOES decide to hang them up, he will probably try his hand on the PGA tour as a professional golder. I have read several articles which state that his golf game is good enough for the pro tour!

Just my humble opinion!

Rich

August 10th, 2009
12:47 pm

Greg from Marietta…WTF are you talking about?! Did you read the article? You might want to double check those meds you took this morning. As far as SMOLTZ is concerned, bring him back and let him close out his career in Atlanta, as it should be.

Tami

August 10th, 2009
12:49 pm

Agree with Dave @ 12:47 pm. I think Smoltz has the personality to be in broadcasting more than the other 2, but agree that they could all be in the booth…no problem. Maddux would be better as a pitching coach. And, yes. I do agree that very likely, Maddux was a sort of player/coach during Mazzone’s tenure.

Phil of Playaz Ball

August 10th, 2009
12:50 pm

Yes, as a middle reliever. But Smoltz’s ego would never allow it.

Rico Carty

August 10th, 2009
12:50 pm

Smoltz should not be brought back. It is time to move forward. Frank Wren was right about Smoltz and Glavine.

dave

August 10th, 2009
12:52 pm

Do you not think Boston knew of his successful past as the Brave’s closer? If 29 had anything left, they’d try him there first – they didn’t, we shouldn’t. Go pick up your golf clubs and wait for the Hall to call.

Ken

August 10th, 2009
12:52 pm

These old guys need to give it up. Play more Golf John, and spend your millions. You deserve it. World class athlete, retire with class and dignity…

aswingruber

August 10th, 2009
12:53 pm

As a reliever, he can certainly give us more than Acosta. Why not give him a shot at setting up for the Moylan/Gonzo/Soriano combo if need be? You aren’t taking very much risk on that. Even as bad as his ERA is this year, his numbers the first time through lineups are decent. Sentiment aside, it’s worth a shot if he’d be willing. Therein lies the problem. Smoltz’s ego would not allow him to be a middle relief guy so I don’t see happening.

Herschel Talker

August 10th, 2009
12:54 pm

GermanBravesFan is a clown. And he likes men.

A Fan

August 10th, 2009
12:55 pm

Smoltz only makes sense in the bull pen and at best he is #4 there behind Soriano, Gonzo, and Moylan. However, look at the numbers. Acosta. ERA of 3.81. Smoltz ERA of 8.32. Acosta is 28. Smoltz is 42.

MIKEM

August 10th, 2009
12:56 pm

I would like to see him come back to the Brave’s but you are all out of your minds if you think Smoltz will pitch in Rome or Gwinnett.
No way he’ll accept anything but a major league deal and at this point, I can’t see the Brave’s kissing Smoltzie’s rear end after the way he handled himself earlier this year.

jimmya

August 10th, 2009
12:57 pm

if smoltz would sign him to a minor league contract see if he can turn it around it would not hurt to try huh

Linda

August 10th, 2009
12:57 pm

Bringing Smoltz back is like rewarding a spoiled child for bad behavior. He is not deserving of the respect that was given Niekro.

Gary

August 10th, 2009
12:58 pm

Heck ya. Bring him back. His presence is worth more even if he can’t pitch well.

John Smoltz

August 10th, 2009
12:58 pm

I need to suck it up and retire. My best pitching days are behind me, and I just can’t admit it. The Braves would be wise to not give me a chance to blow some games for them out of the pen. I need to sign somewhere as an announcer…….

Dave in ATL

August 10th, 2009
1:01 pm

SIGN him and get him back in a Braves jersey. Let him work from the bullpen. The Braves have a real shot at leaping forward in the race to October, and bringing Smoltz back – regardless of his condition – would do nothing less than bolster team spirit and give this town some last minute juice to hang with the Braves just a little longer (before the Falcons grab the spotlight right off the bat – no pun intended).

Shirley

August 10th, 2009
1:03 pm

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DHD

August 10th, 2009
1:03 pm

Yes and here’s why. He can be as good as anybody for ONE inning in relief. It will give the Braves a chance to mend the hurt feelings of how they treated him earlier in the year. He would be GREAT in the clubhouse for the younger players. Maybe he could give Yunel a noogie when he needs it….and that’s about once a game. yeah, it doesn’t hurt anything to bring him in with the understanding it’s an inning at a time. No starting and no closing. then, he can retire a Brave and we can retire his number next year. Do it!!

N8

August 10th, 2009
1:05 pm

prattvillenolzfan, we’re not that far off on Smoltz. I too agree that Smoltz is the one who should apologize FIRST, but Wren could also offer a token apology, for good will.

But in the end, Wren WAS right.

As for Chipper? Love the guy. Kind of flew under the radar all those years with the pitching staff we had. But, I’m afraid that when all is said and done that extension he just got is going to be “Hampton-like”, in terms of the contract being a noose around Wren’s neck.

Whether he’s losing his ability to play at a high level, or just his ability to play through injuries, he’s losin’ “it” a bit, and that price tag is too high for a team that has budget issues to begin with.

Nick

August 10th, 2009
1:05 pm

Absolutly bring him back, for the right price. His affectivness as a starter is all but gone but i think he can still play a big role as a middle relieve guy moylan and him would be a great 1 – 2. theres a world of difference between starting and relieving. But again it has to be at the right price.

Dad of eight

August 10th, 2009
1:05 pm

Absolutely we should bring him back into the fold…he could help us more than some of the others… Acosta has ‘acost-a’ too many games over the past two years… And Gonzo scares me too much…he is either ON (in capital letters) or OFF…! and then…when ready…retire John as a Brave..as it should be… like we did Knucksie… with honor… not only could Smoltz help physically, he could be another vet. leader for the young guys to feast on…

Just A Fan

August 10th, 2009
1:06 pm

Can anyone make him a tee time at Hawksridge? He’s DONE

Kentavo

August 10th, 2009
1:06 pm

This post is ignoring a glaring fact: Smoltz is still property of Boston.
They did not “cut” him. He has been designated for assignment.
He could still choose to go to the Sox minor league affiliates and work on becoming a reliever again.
So, in order for the Braves to get him, they’d have to work out a trade (or wait it out if he is completely cut loose).
Now, do ya’ll still think he’s worth trading for?

Ralph

August 10th, 2009
1:07 pm

Absolutely not!!

Darrell

August 10th, 2009
1:08 pm

No, he’s done.

Gene

August 10th, 2009
1:08 pm

I have slammed Wren on this blog, but it appears that he has put together a team that has a chance at the post season. I was happy to see Laroche return. I am still sad to see Smoltz and Glavine go out kicking and screaming, but it appears that Wren was correct.

coach smith

August 10th, 2009
1:10 pm

Just ask yourself who would you rather see in a given situation SMOLTZ or ACOSTA?

Halibut Maoir

August 10th, 2009
1:10 pm

Lets see sign a 42 year old with 8+ era with the hope he MIGHT help your bullpen-uh NO! I’m a John Smoltz fan,but reality has to set in. Another clue he might not have it anymore,how many other clubs are beating down his door to sign him? None that I’ve seen reported. Sorry John

knitter picker

August 10th, 2009
1:10 pm

Smoltz pissed me off but I say sign him to a AAA contract and let him work out of the pen.

I’m not a computer geek but can someone tell me what his line looked like in the 1st inning of all his starts this year. That would be similar to coming out of the bullpen.

If he did take the minor league deal to show his stuff then sign him for the league minimum. If he doesn’t like it then tell him hell to the no.

This is coming from a fan that repects his work but hates his attitude.

Gman

August 10th, 2009
1:11 pm

Smoltz time has come and gone. He and the Red Sox were the only one’s who thought otherwise. Now it is only John who thinks so.

If anyone wants to see him pitch, schedule an exhibition game on an off day. On second thought-just retire Smoltz. IT’S OVER!!

count_schemula

August 10th, 2009
1:11 pm

He is still a Red Sox. If he does not go to the minor leagues for them, he will not do it for us. At this point he owes whatever he has left to Boston. They have paid the man in full.

Shadetree

August 10th, 2009
1:11 pm

Enter your comments here

coach smith

August 10th, 2009
1:12 pm

I would take SMOLTZ as that middle situational reliever

I’d only do it though if we had to trade nothing for him and obviously the SOX picking up his salary

Shadetree

August 10th, 2009
1:13 pm

Boston cut Smoltz today

K-Dog

August 10th, 2009
1:13 pm

I have mixed feelings, my heart says yes, but my head says no. I really don’t think it would work out no matter how much us old dogs would love to see him on the mound, just one more time in a Braves jersey.

Nick

August 10th, 2009
1:14 pm

I think that he’s already been cut. i just read it somewhere. i could be wrong

count_schemula

August 10th, 2009
1:16 pm

John Smoltz' slider

August 10th, 2009
1:16 pm

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
I’m lost, and I can’t find my way home.

Braindawg

August 10th, 2009
1:18 pm

Sure bring him back, hire him, say 12 mil. over one season. And while your at it, Let Glavine come back also, but lets be resonable about this only give Glavinve 10 mil. And while we’re at that maybe Obama can give us a resonable health care plan!?!?!?!? Im sorry, that last one just aint gonna happen. But then again neither are the first two………..That is all! Later!

northern braves fan

August 10th, 2009
1:18 pm

Sign him and give him a chance. He should retire a brave.

STH

August 10th, 2009
1:20 pm

Soriano is the best of our pretty good bull pen, man people axpect alot sometimes. Do half of you really watch the games or just comment after watching one game when american idol isnt on??

shaggy

August 10th, 2009
1:20 pm

Yeah, that would be a smart move. Put an old 8+ ERA guy in the bullpen.
What we need is a AAA’er who throws smoke, and nobody in the majors has faced. That would be worth DL’ing sombody.

Halibut Maoir

August 10th, 2009
1:21 pm

What do all of the following have in common? Knucksie,Spahn,Sain,Rick Camp, Steve Avery,Bruce Sutter, Steve Bedrock, & Mark Wohlers. They like Smoltz have nothing left and the Braves are not thinking of re-signing any of them either!!!!

37YrBravesFan

August 10th, 2009
1:22 pm

No. Just plain No, don’t do it.

Blackberry Cobbler

August 10th, 2009
1:22 pm

Bring Smoltz back. It would be the classy thing to do. Scherholz already said he didn’t like the way the Smoltz departure was handled. This would be a chance to heal the would even if Smoltz couldn’t contribute much. Bring him back and let him retire and enter the HOF a Brave. It would be a classy move even if he’s not needed much.

jaygee

August 10th, 2009
1:22 pm

Take the emotion out of it. The guy can’t get people out anymore. How is signing a pitcher who can’t get people out going to help the Braves? It’s not.

IDC

August 10th, 2009
1:22 pm

The Braves have played too well the last week to have any distractions thrown into the mix. Smoltz would want to come back as a starter and would once again want to be the “head” guy in the dugout. He left. He can’t cut it there. Let him go cost another team important games, not the Braves. Quite frankly I am sick and tired of hearing about all the people who aren’t playing in Atlanta anymore (Smoltz, Glavine, Vick), let’s talk about people who matter, people who are playing now.

Murphy47

August 10th, 2009
1:25 pm

Years ago Smoltz turned down 51 million and took 30 from the Braves…far as i’m concerned now…were even. Short answer…yes, take him back for the bullpen. He still throws low 90’s and imagine his experience in the bullpen. He would have been PERFECT yesterday in the 9th and would have been able to give (Moy, Gonz, Soria) much needed rest. Yes he looked very, very average against the Yanks…but a lot of people do. He is a bearded psycho who will have off days but he is one baseball’s ALL TIME BEST PITCHERS. Do all of this for VERY LITTLE money by the by!!

Alex C.

August 10th, 2009
1:30 pm

He is a brave. He should be with us! Pitching in Boston, without getting the proper time to ease in, was a recipe for disaster. He needs to come home. There will be plenty of opportunities for relief work. We can use him!!! Why not?

EW

August 10th, 2009
1:31 pm

Look, I love Smoltz. But Wren already proved that he made the right, albeit the unpopular, decision to let Smoltz go. Why bring him back and open yourself to the criticism if he fails. I hate to say it Braves fans, but our hometown hero is gonna hang em up or end up somewhere other than Atlanta, with the emphasis on hanging em up. Thanks for the memories Smoltzie, see you in Cooperstown.

Rick S

August 10th, 2009
1:32 pm

If John Smoltz is open to pitch as a reliever again then why not? If it works the Braves strengthen their Bullpen and allow John Smoltz to rejoin the Braves and when ready retire as he should- an Atlanta Brave. If it does not work out then what really have you lost!

mark

August 10th, 2009
1:36 pm

BravesFan79

August 10th, 2009
1:36 pm

YES! Bring Smoltz back to the ATL!! Hes not self centered… hes a Brave at heart… i guess some of you fools havent been long enough to remember all the times he turned down BIG $$ from the Yankees to stay a Brave!
He left for the $ just like most of us would leave our jobs for another that payed double!

It worked out best for both parties! We didnt have to pay him most of the year, and he would be fresh for the playoff run. Smoltz now knows he cant go 5+ innings anymore, and therefore would be a great addition to the bullpen!!
HE DID SHUT DOWN THE RED HOT YANKEES FOR 3 INNINGS!! Could most of our bullpen do that …. NO! Actually alot of teams are interested in Smoltz….apparently some GM’s know more than some of you fools do that think hes washed up…. go figure!

JP

August 10th, 2009
1:38 pm

Hell no. Let him stew at home for the rest of the season about how everyone has wronged him.

CJDawg

August 10th, 2009
1:38 pm

Ummmm….who would you rather see coming in….Smoltz or Acosta?

Smoltz in a landslide. Give him 2 weeks in the minors and then a call up to see, but only at the lague minimum. Soriano is not the shut down man Smoltz is for one inning. If you let emotions get in the way of bringing him back, ur just nuts.

Reggie Reg

August 10th, 2009
1:39 pm

El-Hay Oh-nay….

KJ

August 10th, 2009
1:44 pm

Kinda perfect timing…my blog post today is about Smoltzy. My verdict: time for him and Glavine to hang up their tomahawks: http://braveskatie.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/08/knowing-when-to-fold-em-a-lesson-from-23.html

john

August 10th, 2009
1:44 pm

why not he can give you a inning or two send him down to the farm until sept 1 when there take the team from 25 players to 40 that way you can see what he has left in his tank who knows he can be the next paul byrd maybe he could be teach the knuck ball that way he could pitch for another year or two

Mark Biles

August 10th, 2009
1:45 pm

I am eternally grateful for everything Smoltz has done for the Braves in his first tenure with the Braves, but I think he’s out of gas. Also, we just don’t have the money left to take a chance on a pitcher that may cost us wins by having blown saves or turn a close game into a sure loss. Love you Smoltz and I’m sure you’ll go into the Hall of Fame in 5 years.

Billy Austin

August 10th, 2009
1:47 pm

Reid Adair………. “Frank Wren and company lied to the fans and the public, claiming the Braves’ offer was similar to Boston’s”.

Not true that Frank Wren lied! He said the Atlanta Braves were willing to pay John Smoltz the same amount of money TO PITCH they just were not willing to pay the same amount the Boston Red Sox were for him NOT TO PITCH. In other words the Red Sox offered guaranteed money and the Braves offered an incentive laden contract with a smaller amount guaranteed. If Smoltz had been healthy and pitching like Smoltz of old he could have made the same money with the Braves that he was guaranteed from the Red Sox. Frank Wren in my opinion did a good job of protecting the Braves from exactly what has now happened to the Red Sox. The Red Sox are paying a lot of money for a pitcher that helped them fall behind the Yankees and they are now releasing because he can’t even help them get TO October much less be a factor IN October.

John Smoltz is one of my favorite all time Braves but I think in this instance he is wrong. He decided to take it personally that Frank Wren was being prudent and not repeat last year by having future hall of famers but current rehab patients anchoring his starting rotation. He took the same guaranteed money that Smoltz got from Boston and converted that to Javier Vasquez. Where would the Braves be if they had not traded for Vasquez and relied on Smoltz to come back instead? No chance we’d be in the race at all. Frank Wren needs to be commended for making unpopular but none the less correct choices this offseason and continuing into the playing season this year. I don’t see a move yet he would reverse now if given the chance. Nice job Frank! You had a plan and are sticking to it and it’s working well.

If Smoltz wants to come back and go down for some rehab work at Gwinnet and be available to the pen in case of an injury or to replace Acosta I’d say that could be the best the Braves should offer him. He might have enough left to be effective for one inning at a time.

TA

August 10th, 2009
1:52 pm

No way. How smart does Wren look now.

[...] today: “Do you think Smoltz should be re-signed to help in the Braves bullpen?” [AJC] The Braves could use another relief pitcher, but I will be shocked if the former Braves closer [...]

BravesFan79

August 10th, 2009
2:02 pm

Hmmm… this shouldnt be hard… should we add a guy who……………
A: Is one of the most dominating postseason pitchers of all time.
B: a Brave at heart who turned down greater offers from other teams over the years.
C: The only pitcher ever with 200+ wins and over 150 saves, including the NL record for saves
D: Even at 42 just shut down the powerful and redhot Yankees lineup the first time thru the order, including striking out A-Rod and Johnny Damon….without his best stuff.

Nope… according to half of the genius’s on here…any joe smoe would of done all that, and anyone would of turned down more money from the Yankees to stay a Brave. Whats that… u mean Tex didnt stay?
Some of you need to GET OVER YOURSELVES! Smoltz has done alot for this organization and us true fans appreciate it! Just like us true fans look deeper into the #’s than just ERA and realize he only had a few bad innings (he usually did well the first time thru the order).
Smoltz had the right to speak his mind about the Glavine situation… etc… this is America after all! If anyone deserved to be honest and speak his mind its Smoltz after all the loyalty he showed to us fans.

Ken

August 10th, 2009
2:04 pm

After a public apology for blasting the Braves because they didn’t give him enough money I would welcome him back for a tryout to see if there is anything left. If nothing else we would enjoy seeing hime a few times in Gwinnett.

aps

August 10th, 2009
2:06 pm

Sure, for the Gwinnett Braves.

john

August 10th, 2009
2:09 pm

No way Smoltz can help the Braves in any way. Fortunately for hte Braves Wren did not give into the temptation to sign Smoltz for his passt. Smoltz went to the Red sox because they would pay him without knowing what he had left. Looks lke Wren knew that he had nothing left. Why go and mess with a part which is working and bring in a guy only worried about himself and not the team

johnnyboy

August 10th, 2009
2:11 pm

This would be an incredibly dumb move. The Braves bullpen doesn’t need bolstering, and Smoltz hasn’t proven he can pitch after his most recent surgery.

Wolf

August 10th, 2009
2:14 pm

If Smoltz is willing to go to Gwinett and pitch there, see how he does in one-inning relief appearances, that MIGHT be OK. I doubt that he would do it, but if he WAS willing, well, give him three or four appearances in triple-A ball and see how he does. If he gets batters out there and looks good doing it, then bring him up after the rosters expand on September 1. As of NOW, Atlanta cannot afford to risk it by bringing in Smoltz when every game is important.

Brave Fan

August 10th, 2009
2:15 pm

Smoltz was a great player for the Braves for many years and I was one of his biggest fans. However, he talked way too much after he signed with the Red Sox about how the Braves didn’t step up to sign him. Not to mention all he had to say about the Braves and Glavine situation. If Smoltz hadn’t become the outspoken, bitter, selfish player he became, I would be all for him putting on a Brave uniform. However, with the way he went on every sports talk show and espn to voice his displeasure about the Braves organization, I have to say no. He could have been a man about the way he left and just said “the Sox offered me more money” but he couldn’t and he didn’t. The Braves OWE John Smoltz nothing. Smoltz can thank the Braves for all the years of support and the paychecks. Baseball is a business and John forgot that when it pertained to himself……and Glavine.

Matt the Brave

August 10th, 2009
2:15 pm

Here’s an idea: let’s bring back Tom Glavine to start, Kent Mercker to throw middle relief, Juan Berenguer to do the 7th, Charlie Leibrant to do the 8th, then Smoltz to close out the game. I’m sure we’d lose about 58-10.

Will

August 10th, 2009
2:15 pm

I hate to say this but the acquisition would make an interesting story. I still think he can close some games for us and may help us overtake the Phils in that role. The problem is I think he would rather retire than half to “eat crow” to come back to Atlanta. But the story is pretty interesting.

lexbrave

August 10th, 2009
2:17 pm

ask me that question after he apologizes to the organization and the fans for how he talked about the braves when he CHOSE to leave.

until then the answer is no.

No name comic

August 10th, 2009
2:17 pm

He took more money gambling on a better contender and lost. I’d have him back for peanuts but it looks like he’s washed up. If you ask me, Glavine got the rawest deal of the two…

bkbroila

August 10th, 2009
2:20 pm

He ditched the Braves and the fans for extra money, period. Then the Sox ditched his butt and sent him packing, something the braves never would have done…His pride won’t let him come back!!!

EW

August 10th, 2009
2:26 pm

Can we squash this right now? SMOLTZ IS NOT EVER COMING BACK TO ATLANTA. Wren ain’t bringing him back, and no matter how much you think he would be effective for an inning here or there, it WON’T be here. FIRST, Smoltz will have to swallow his pride and agree to come out of the bullpen, something he could have opted to do at the beggining of the year and still be a Brave. SECOND, if and when he does that, he will go to ANOTHER team, NOT ATLANTA. This story is BS, it’s reality check time.

EW

August 10th, 2009
2:28 pm

Matt the Brave. I think we should have Wholers close.

Vikki Thomas

August 10th, 2009
2:33 pm

I’m with NativeBird. Out of gas. Go play golf and try to get by on your millions. The Braves proved this past series with the Dodgers that they don’t need to make any changes right now. I don’t feel sorry for him at all. You don’t bad mouth the team that you were with for years. It’s in pour taste. Have some class. You have plenty of time to go find some now.

Alvin R

August 10th, 2009
2:34 pm

Thanks for the memories Smoltzie! But my vote would be a big “NO WAY” let’s stay with young talented players that are still hungry for the game and not just a “payday”…we’ll holla atcha Smoltz!

drummerdad

August 10th, 2009
2:34 pm

Who do they move or can to make room for him? At best, see if he’ll take a Gwinnett deal.

JeanE

August 10th, 2009
2:34 pm

I am the biggest John Smoltz fan but gotta say, a big NO to this idea.I would think he’d have way to much pride to do it even if offered. Time to make a graceful exit, I was so angry at Frank Wren but I was wrong. He is just done. Tommy G, too. They are both Braves icons but the time has come to retire.

hall county observer

August 10th, 2009
2:38 pm

i am a huge smoltz fan but absolutely under no circumstance should the braves bring him back. all of the folks say sign him and give him a chance to prove himself in gwinnett are wrong. he has had the chance to prove himself in the minors and in boston this year and he proved that he can not get major league hitters out anymore. what in the world makes anyone think he could be a closer. the braves are trying to make the playoffs not win a popularity contest with smoltz. i dont care if he would pitch for ZERO money, the braves can not afford any more given away games.

Independent Thinker

August 10th, 2009
2:38 pm

It’s a moot question. For what he would merit in salary, his gargantuan ego would not allow it.

Independent Thinker

August 10th, 2009
2:39 pm

While we’re at it,let’s get John Rocker! NOT!

J-man

August 10th, 2009
2:45 pm

I don’t think he’s got anything left, but I am amazed at how many people have what I would call an “interesting” take on the contract unpleasantness earlier this year. I still feel what I felt earlier. There was a way to handle this and explain to Smoltz that the team needed to give a roster spot to a younger pitcher who is part of the future instead of him. Or there was the way to do what the Braves did, which was to make him an offer they knew he would not accept and watch fans blame him for being “greedy” when he turned it down. I am starting to believe that Frank Wren could kill someone in cold blood on video with a knife and some of the fans would swear that the victim actually deliberately jumped on the knife to commit suicide.

PTC DAWG

August 10th, 2009
2:46 pm

Smoltz could have been a Brave…frankly, I’m glad he chose no. Let him retire.

taxman kenneth

August 10th, 2009
2:46 pm

No way. He took his millions from the Red Sox and then thrashed the braves as did worn out ailing Chipper. Let him try and get his millions from some other sucker. We have enough sickly players now especially Chipper who is always straining something except his bank account.

hall county observer

August 10th, 2009
2:47 pm

i think bravesfan79 must really be bobby cox. that comment sounds like some of the meaningless junk that comes out of the mouth of cox. so many times after he has a pitcher just got torched cox will say that the pitcher only made a couple of bad pitches and really threw the ball pretty good. bravesfan79 claiming that only a few “real fans” understand what is really going on is a joke. how about understanding this…i havent seen any other teams knocking smoltz’s door down after he got lit up in boston.

Edie Chase

August 10th, 2009
2:47 pm

He’s done…time to retire

Cow-a-Commie

August 10th, 2009
2:49 pm

Lidge has been bad lately, … what if the Phillies pick him up as a closer?

CallUpConrad

August 10th, 2009
2:49 pm

The Braves will eventually bring back some of the heroes of the past as pitching coach and even manager. I would be a waste of talent not too. Guys like Tom Glavine, Greg Maddux, John Smoltz and Eddie Perez are good baseball people, not just good players. I would love to see Perez get the chance to manage in the minors to see if he is ready for that and groom him or someone like him to take over the reigns when Cox retires. Chino Cadahia is the bench coach and unless he has learned a ton in the last 10-15 years, it is hard for me to see him being considered in the future. I had some exposure to him as a manager in the past in the minors and he just wasn’t very good at that time. I said it before and I’ll say it again about Cadahia, if you can take Sammy Sosa, Juan Gonzalez, Dean Palmer, Roger Pavlik, Kevin Brown and Rob Nen and finish last place, you’re not a very good manager.

liquid3

August 10th, 2009
2:52 pm

YES YES YES, Smoltz can replace Acosta in the bullpen, enough said!!

milesarcher33

August 10th, 2009
2:57 pm

Yes! Yes! Yes! He’s the greatest!! Welcome him back as either a starter or reliever (Hopefully a starter), we can use his wisdom, experience and loyalty. He can do nothing but Help!!

tralfaz

August 10th, 2009
3:00 pm

Green Tea

August 10th, 2009
3:00 pm

I’d have Chris Reitsma or Dan Kolb close, those two were awesome.

baseball fan

August 10th, 2009
3:03 pm

NO don’t sign Smoltz unless he’s super cheap and only for the bullpen. He is out of gas!

Brave1240

August 10th, 2009
3:11 pm

Bring him to help in the bullpen! Smoltz has been lights out for the first couple of innings and has only seemed to lose the bite off his slider and the location of his fastball after the first few innings.

bravefalconhawk

August 10th, 2009
3:13 pm

submariner

August 10th, 2009
3:15 pm

Why not? If you told him to give you 3 outs in the ninth vice 27 over a start, don’t you think he’d be good for it? It isn’t like he was getting lit up in the first innings. I think if you could get him to agree to come out of the pen, and hand him the ball in the ninth, he could give you 3 or 4 batters. His velocity is good. His location is what gets erratic after a couple of innings. What’s it gonna hurt? We need another arm. What better an opportunity to save some face with Atlanta and inject some fans at the park. All the while making a legitimate run at October. I’d like to see him come back and help us get deep into the playoffs. Everyone wins. Consider this. He’d be back with McCann, who knows how to work with him, back in familiar scenary under Cox, and only have to give you 25 to 30 pitches per appearance.

ATLawk

August 10th, 2009
3:15 pm

For crying out loud, have you all seen how he’s been pitching this season? It’s over.

Doc

August 10th, 2009
3:20 pm

Hell Yeah!! Just maybe Wren could make one right decision!

BBuckaroo5

August 10th, 2009
3:20 pm

Bring John Smoltz back if he drops the attitude at the gate and comes in to help teach the young guys about getting to the post-season with his mentality and work ethic.

halbert

August 10th, 2009
3:20 pm

pay him per out

HomerTheBrave

August 10th, 2009
3:21 pm

Matt Gerig

August 10th, 2009
3:21 pm

Don’t care if he actually bolsters the bull pen or not. BRING JOHN HOME!!!!!! He deserves better. Let him finish out the year with us and with dignity!! He is a Brave at heart and he will play better at his real home!

JDG

August 10th, 2009
3:26 pm

Even when (not if) he clears waivers, there are several other NL teams more hard-up for bullpen pitching who would almost certainly make more enticing offers to Mr. Smoltz. My guess is that he still has some decent relief work in that arm, but regardless, I see neither how the damage from the past year can be undone, and I don’t think the Braves would be willing to pony up as much money as he’d want. My personal opinion is that unless he’s willing to come pitch on the cheap and accept a rather minimal role, all parties are best off with him pitching somewhere else – or his simply retiring.

LKS

August 10th, 2009
3:28 pm

Smoltz doesn’t deserve anything from the braves. I say NO!! He left b/c he just KNEW he was going to come back strong as a starter and was mad b/c FW didn’t think so hince the incentive contract. He has too big of an ego. Then was all about trashing the braves all season. Good Riddance!

LKS

August 10th, 2009
3:29 pm

and Frank Wren has been right about every move he has made this year and the offseason!! Except overpaying for KK.

Paul

August 10th, 2009
3:30 pm

Last Thursday he went 3.1 innings with 8 ER, but his first two innings were scoreless. He seems to pitch the first two innings well. In the first two innings of his last three starts, he has only given up 1 run. They could give him a shot.

Chief

August 10th, 2009
3:32 pm

JEFF FRANCOUER HAS JUST BEEN TRADED!

Neil

August 10th, 2009
3:39 pm

The Braves should absolutely look into this as a possibility. Even if Smoltz doesn’t have the chops to go six or seven quality innings these days – which is understandable at his age – I have no reason to suspect that he can’t still come out of the pen and string together three outs. As Braves fans, we’ve seen the extra gear Smoltz displays while coming out of the pen too many times to believe otherwise. And, even if he can’t be relied upon in the gravest situations anymore – and I’m not convinced he can’t – his arm would still be a meaningful addition.

BravesLover

August 10th, 2009
3:40 pm

Don’t see Smoltz accepting a minor league assignment…not for one day, not for one month. Other teams will vie to sign him. The Braves offer of the minimum will, once again, insult him (in his opinion). Best not to go there as the team needs to concentrate on winning. His harsh words sealed his pitching fate here. Can’t wait for the retire the jersey ceremony. Glad he was here for so long, sad to see him go, but none of us can roll back time. Didn’t Cher sing that song?

Mitchell

August 10th, 2009
3:48 pm

Bring him back, Frank. Let’s go.

I’d take an economy sized pouch of Big League Chew for Manny Acosta.

Manny, Norton and Diory need to hit the road.

Come back Johnny. Come on back.

DirtyDawg

August 10th, 2009
3:50 pm

If Smoltz were smart he would petition MLB to ‘forgive’ him this last, vain, attempt at a comeback and forgetabout his having pitched this season. That way he, Glavine and Maddux could all go into the HOF together – that assumes Smoltz is good enough.

David

August 10th, 2009
3:59 pm

I respect the man. Even grew a beard in his honor. But the past needs to stay in the past. Fault Wren all you want for how Smoltz and Glavine were handled, but in the end Wren did the best thing for the organization, there’s no doubt that has been proven.

The bullpen will be fine. Medlen is finally trusting his changeup and I think he will be a LOCKDOWN middle reliever down the stretch, which should take some of the load off Moylan/Gonzo/Soriano. Plus I think you’ll see Hudson or Kawakami in the pen before it’s done.

Anyway, I don’t think Smoltzie’s pride would allow him to discuss a possibility of coming back and dealing with Wren.

outtopasture

August 10th, 2009
4:02 pm

let him try then let him retire in a braves uni

David

August 10th, 2009
4:03 pm

CallupConrad,

I too would like to see Eddie Perez be the next manager. I don’t think Pendleton has the people skills to get it done. I think you’ll see Chipper as the batting coach in ATL after he’s done. If you read any of the beat blogs, it sounds like he’s already doing part of Pendleton’s job anyway.

CallUpConrad

August 10th, 2009
4:06 pm

I love John Smoltz as a player and even more as a person. Having said that, I think he’s done. I don’t want to see Smoltz go through the pain of hanging around too long. He deserves better than that. I think Frank Wren could have handled his situation better but Wren was right. Smoltz wasn’t ready to pitch. I hope John retires with his resume as it is and heads to the Hall of Fame. As for those riding Manny Acosta, have you forgotten that he has gotten better as the season has gone on? Over the weekend, he pitched some very meaningufl baseball and did pretty well. He’s young. Why are fans so quick to cast young players on the scrap heap and want to recycle players?

dap01

August 10th, 2009
4:12 pm

His talent is worth a shot. He was well liked while here. But he did prove to be a turd when he left and decided to run his pouting mouth.

Steffon

August 10th, 2009
4:14 pm

In the immortal words of Whitney Houston – HEEEEELLLLL to the NAAAAWWWWWW. Smoltz time has passed and there is no need to bring his old arm back to the A.

Ernesto

August 10th, 2009
4:16 pm

If this team is serious about winning then NO. There are many other available pitchers available that can come and help. He took the money and cried that the team dis-respected him. The Braves were right when they offered him what they believe (and I too) he was no longer the same pitcher. It was a gamble that the Red Sox took and they lost. It will be a gamble for the Braves if they take him. The best the Braves could do is to sign him to a minor league contract and send him to Gwinnet and see how he responds.

JH

August 10th, 2009
4:19 pm

Evidently we are all mistaken – Perry Laurentino says we need to wait until Leo Mazone gets back from Maryland before we claim Smoltz is done. It might just be something mechanical that explains why he has the highest ERA in the big leauges.

Braves Fan Since 1974

August 10th, 2009
4:26 pm

I respectfully say “No”. But my reason for answering this way may be a little more selfish than maybe some of the other posters to this question.

Listen everyone, I have been an absolute die-hard Atlanta Braves fan every since my dad drove me down here from N.C. in 1974 when I was 12 years old to watch the Braves for the first time. It was the last year that Hank Aaron would play for the Braves and I consider myself blessed to have watched him play, although he didn’t hit a home run in that game! :( But, every since that day I have lived, breathed and ate Braves Baseball. And no matter how bad the year or how good the year was, I still supported them faithfully. When they won a record high 106 wins during the 1998 season, I was there pulling for them, and when they won a record low 54 games during the 1988 season, I was there pulling for them as well. I even remember back in the 1970’s and 1980’s when the Braves were so bad, that merchants around Atlanta were actually giving away free tickets to the ballgames if someone wanted to go just to boost attendance. Don’t believe me? Count the years between 1970 to 1990 that the Braves either finished dead last in their division or next to last. A total of 14 times! But guess what? I was still a fan there with them any way!

Thus, my objection to Smoltz coming back is not just limited to him not having his stuff any more, which he doesn’t. (He admitted that himself just a few weeks ago in an interview up in Boston). But rather I think that somewhere as modern baseball has evolved something has been lost in the process – true allegiance to one team throughout your entire career. Long gone are the days when players loved their team so much that they would stick by it no matter what. And long gone as well are the days when management did the same for their players. Now players are nothing more than giant dollar signs running around playing a game that is supposed to be fun and is supposed to be played for the love of the game!

Thus, I conclude that if a player leaves a team he has been with for all his career, or at least most of his career, of his own violation because the almighty dollar is more important to them than team loyalty, that he should not be allowed to come scampering back just because he didn’t do as good as he thought he would with his new high dollar team! (Now I do not feel this way at all if it was the team that booted them and then wants to bring the player back because it was not the player’s greed that caused him to leave the team.)

In closing, before I start getting slammed by other posters, please be aware of some things. (1) I have always loved John Smoltz’s pitching. (2) I have always deeply respected John Smoltz the man due to his personal integrity and community involvement. (3) I have no ill wishes for John Smoltz. And (4) I know that players have to try to take care of their families and make as much money as they can before they have to retire. But I ask in return, what good does it do for a player’s family if the player moves from team to team in search for the almighty dollar, meanwhile either leaving their family behind at home while they are gone for most of the year? Or uprooting them and moving them to a new city every year or every other year? Like I said, for me, it all comes down to loyalty. Both to your team and also to your family. But, that’s just one man’s opinion. And everyone knows that opinions are like the sands of both the seas and deserts of our planet. There are more grains of sand than anyone could every begin to count in a million lifetimes!

Erica

August 10th, 2009
4:39 pm

Yes!! I LOVED watching Smoltz in relief at Turner Field. They should bring back the same intro, too, with the video graphics then fade to black as the camera shows him jogging in from the outfield. That was one of the most exciting intros in sports I’ve ever seen. You just knew the game would be saved after he ran out to the mound!

Thomas

August 10th, 2009
4:40 pm

If John Smoltz can still pitch in the low 90’s with movement, Management should give him a shot. If he cannot obtain those statistics, he should not play and retire.

Joseph Muncey

August 10th, 2009
4:44 pm

Yes i think the Atlanta Braves shold give John Smoltz another chance I think they were dumba**es for letting him go they never gave he a chance to prove himself.

John Gallman

August 10th, 2009
4:48 pm

Don’t be surprised if the management and Bobby Cox re-sign Smoltz, afterall, they love operating at the empty side of the tank and have a long history of adding tanted gas. Nothing against Smoltz, he has had a Great career but should focus on announcing the game.

Cruzin

August 10th, 2009
4:58 pm

No it’s over. He couldn’t help the Bosox, why would it be any different for the Braves? He WAS a good closer for the Braves, but those days are gone and can never return. Why pay for someone who was good but isn’t now? He is done, had a great career, time to move on.

Big B CH 99

August 10th, 2009
5:05 pm

If the Braves were going to give him a shot, he would have to start out in Gwinnett, & then maybe give him a shot to replace Accosta in the pen, the real problem being the Braves already have 2 decent Closers (Sori & Gonzo), & is Smoltzy really interested in being a set up man, he hasn’t proven that he can still pitch at a high enough level to be a closer.

I don’t think it’s gonna happen.

GF72

August 10th, 2009
5:06 pm

Who is the idiot that says send Jurrjens to the bullpen on page 1? First off Spell his name right and second off, are you stupid or something? Jurrjens and Vazquez are carrying this freaking team!!!!

Aggie Pride

August 10th, 2009
5:11 pm

Are you crazy? After the way he ripped the Braves, then proved he can’t pitch anymore! Why would anyone sign him??? He’s a Hall-of-famer, but his best days are gone, left on the operating table.

Gabron Salome

August 10th, 2009
5:19 pm

If we can get him for a good price, why not! We dont have anything to lose, when has too much pitching ever been a problem? How did Tom Glavine get into the discussion? Someone must’ve smoked there lunch.

Smooth

August 10th, 2009
5:28 pm

Everybody remember, Hudson will be back soon and that is going to give us another arm in the bullpen. Please let Smoltz got back up North to the Dirty water City.

Ocee

August 10th, 2009
5:29 pm

let john coach little league

Todd

August 10th, 2009
5:33 pm

Can he help? If so, Yes, regardless of alll the politics. Players go under circumstances and teams get rid of players under circumstances. In the end, each does what best for them [Team and the players].

If he cna show good in a pitching session, let him do a stint at Gwinnett (home games only :) ) cause I live in Dacula and have season tickets…

kaygeeone

August 10th, 2009
5:37 pm

I don’t know what the over-all reaction from everyone else is, but I say bring him back and let him shine for the Braves in the post-season. Give him a rookie salary and treat him as any other player, no special attention. If he don’t agree to that, kick his @$$ to the curb.

steve munge

August 10th, 2009
5:39 pm

I think if you could get him at a reasonable rate it would be worth a chance to have him workout in Gwinnett and if he looks good then bring him up to throw 1 inning relief stints, he would be a better solution then some of our bullpen pitchers and I think he is just a better fit for us in Atlanta.

Matt the Brave

August 10th, 2009
5:40 pm

Ok, new order of pitching for my great 58-10 slaughter:

Tom Glavine to start, Kent Mercker, Dan Kolb, Chris Reitsma, Mike Stanton, then John Smoltz to close the game. Maybe we can squeeze Don Sutton and Phil Neikro in as well. ;)

Bobbymahlon

August 10th, 2009
5:41 pm

Let him be a setup man until there is a chance for him to close. After that sign him on as pitching coach. He burned his bridges but lets give him one and only one more chance to be a Brave again.

John Brown

August 10th, 2009
5:43 pm

I say bring back Smoltz if they the Braves determine he could help them in a relief role, but I don’t see how he could with Hudson returning and Kawakami probably going to the pen. Even with his struggles, Kenshin has been 3x as effective as Smoltz. Some Braves fans need to learn that this is a pennant race in professional baseball, not a pageant for retired thoroughbreds or American Idol celebrity guest night. I remember when the SF Giants won over 100 games and missed the playoffs by one game to our Braves(probably the final straw that sent us to expanded playoffs) and I don’t think we want that here. Not that the Braves will win 100 games this year, but if they miss the playoffs by one game(which is a distinct possibilty) because we trotted out Smoltz for some Gordie Howe-like exhibiton start or relief appearance, that’s very well what could happen. And do we want that to be our last memory of a HOFer? I think not.

John Brown

August 10th, 2009
5:45 pm

Hey – and while we’re at it why don’t we bring back Sid Bream for one more game at 1st base, Lemke at 2nd, Blauser at SS, and trot out Pendleton at 3rd for Smoltzie’s final appearance as a Brave. If we weren’t in a pennant race, that would be fun!

double d

August 10th, 2009
5:52 pm

Reitsma or Kolb whew I think that Green Tea must have been fermented.Bring him back on a trial basis.

JayCee

August 10th, 2009
5:55 pm

I agree with 18 Wheels, with an emphatic NO!!! He IS over the hill and he threw the team management under the bus. How could they ???

wayne smith

August 10th, 2009
5:55 pm

absloutely smoltzy would be a great addition to the bullpen.he has proven his worth with 154 saves and yes maybe he is not the same pitcher,but it has come to a comfort factor.he is home when it comes to atlanta.having smoltz,gonzalez,and soriano is a trivecta that no one wants to face in the later innings.I do hope that the braves go after smoltz and bring him back home where he belongs.
one final note!!!!!!! smoltzy could only improve us not hurt us.take the chance braves.we are making a push for our division although many critics said it couldn’t be done!!!!!! lets prove them wrong……….
GO BRAVES!!!!!

steveh

August 10th, 2009
5:57 pm

Love Smoltzie. But time and injuries have caught up with him. Now he can play golf whenever he likes.

COry

August 10th, 2009
6:01 pm

I was as big of a John Smoltz fan as anyone out there (and still am), but it was obvious this spring that when the Braves wanted to “wait and see” he felt that he was disrespected…guess the Braves aren’t so dumb after all. Why would he want to come back? He is a very proud athlete and now would be crawling back to Atlanta for a few innings…Also, and probably more important – AREN’T WE PRETTY CLOSE TO WINNING? He hasnt proven to be effective so bringing him on could have terrible ramifications down the line. Next time we see Smoltzie the braves will be hanging his jersey up in Turner Field, right where it belongs.

Hotrod

August 10th, 2009
6:03 pm

I vote sign him :

1) For the minimum
2) The pen

Its a .500 year anyhow. No real harm can be done.

Joe S

August 10th, 2009
6:05 pm

Smoltz’s age has caught up to him after last year. He has been suffering for while now with the Red Sox and like a sick dog he deserves to move onto another life. He should just hang up his spikes and glove and throw it into Cooperstown, NY after what he has done for the Braves and MLB.

What great competitor he was but he’s not the Smoltz we all knew of in his prime.

Springs

August 10th, 2009
6:08 pm

Bushwacker

August 10th, 2009
6:11 pm

I love smoltz but we are in a pennant race and can’t afford to lose 1 game much less 3 while we see if he has anything left,LETS GO WITH WHATS GOT US HERE!

He’s not going to be as good as any of our 5 starters or Soriano and Gonzales closing, so how can he help us?

Chicken farmer

August 10th, 2009
6:13 pm

Bring back Smoltz? NO. Especially since he bad mouthed the Braves when he left for more pennies and when Wren made the decision to cut Glavine. Now then, I haven’t read anything in any of the comments as to what to do with Hudson when he’s ready to return. There’s an arm we’ve been waiting for, not the worn out one hanging on Smoltz.

i say No

August 10th, 2009
6:14 pm

U really think his 8.33 will help if that case we should resign tom house are buzz capra are rick camp (oh wait he in prison)….nope

Tomahawk Matt

August 10th, 2009
6:27 pm

Give Smoltz a shot in the pen?

An extra arm never hurt… wait it does hurt… the arm hurts…

oooo so sore..

Over It

August 10th, 2009
6:31 pm

Get over it for crying out loud. Do you have this much trouble getting over an old girlfriend? He has nto looked good and the Braves are starting to win. Let it go!!!

Kim

August 10th, 2009
6:31 pm

Ditto what 18 wheels of love said.

kenneth tallant

August 10th, 2009
6:34 pm

i think we need to resign him & at the end of the year retire him with the braves where he needs to be

Rayfrog

August 10th, 2009
6:36 pm

NO WAY !! He made his decision just like Glavine did and money won the day for both of them.

Billy

August 10th, 2009
6:46 pm

A$$ Clown, I love it….

Jeff Hollifield

August 10th, 2009
6:47 pm

As much as I hate to say it, Mr. Wren got this correct. Loved Smoltzy through-out his career, which sadly appears to be over.

wink

August 10th, 2009
6:51 pm

Give Smoltz a try in the pen. Pick your spots where you use him. Let him pitch to only one guy or two max. Use him against hitters he has owned during his career. The closer we get to a playoff spot the more that will make sense. There are some players who just have not been able to hit Smoltz; also limit his pitch selection.

anthony mangham

August 10th, 2009
7:01 pm

get your golf club out and your fishing rodes and your rocking chair and enjoy life and have some fun no more pain no more baseball and put your family first

bdawg

August 10th, 2009
7:07 pm

He is washed up and a clubhouse lawyer. Just move on.

Jack Nicholson

August 10th, 2009
7:10 pm

As a player Smoltz is done. He knows it. You know it. I know it. There’s no reason to be a candy a$$ about it. How about them Lakers.

Mark

August 10th, 2009
7:14 pm

While it may provide him some motivation, I believe it is over for John

Coon-Dawg

August 10th, 2009
7:18 pm

Make Smoltzy the new “Hitting” coach.

deep

August 10th, 2009
7:19 pm

I agree…..Maddux for Pitching coach…… Pendelton as Manager

bfred

August 10th, 2009
7:21 pm

The only real value Smoltz could bring would be in a mop-up role to bank innings for the rest of the bullpen. He can’t start anymore (and we don’t need him) and we’re not going to take the closer role away from Soriano / Gonzo. If he is willing to work long relief in blowouts then he may be useful. My guess is he is completely uninterested in such an arrangement.

As for Hudson, I’d be surprised if he starts a game this year. He’s certainly not coming back in a starting capacity. He may give us what Smoltz could, only better. I like Hudson’s ability to keep us close in a long relief role better than Smoltz’s.

JB

August 10th, 2009
7:23 pm

He’s toast! Great career though. Give the youngsters their chance to shine.

Bamadad11

August 10th, 2009
7:57 pm

As much as I loved watching Smoltz pitch, there won’t be room for him. When Hudson returns, Kawakami probably moves to the pen. Time to bronze your spikes, John.

kay

August 10th, 2009
8:11 pm

yes, yes, yes….let’s get smoltzy back!!!!

steve

August 10th, 2009
8:17 pm

no – time to hang it up

1000 times NO!

August 10th, 2009
8:19 pm

We don’t need Smoltz. He is a whiny little b—h. Uh huh YEAH HE IS!!

1000 times NO!

August 10th, 2009
8:20 pm

I’ve already told you felas over on Bradley’s blog – bring him back to clean the dugouts after the game. He can even wear one of his old uniforms.

jonnycash

August 10th, 2009
8:31 pm

He’s done,finished, caput. Why is this even being brought up again? Here we go with all the Smoltz lovers freaking out. Move on and accept the fact that Wren was right!!

1000 times NO!

August 10th, 2009
8:33 pm

Smoltz sucks hairy moose GOW!!! Can’t you guys see this?

ace driscoll

August 10th, 2009
8:39 pm

the atlanta braves and this city provided him a great life and he left us behind – I have no real problem with his ‘expected lack of loyality ( like the rest of the has- been millionaire clowns playing a kids game), but it never really works out when you bring back this type of employee in any business ( see also glavine )

EJ

August 10th, 2009
8:41 pm

Of course not….it is time for my friend to retire and golf…….the braves need young arms right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

L Sexton

August 10th, 2009
8:47 pm

Absolutley! And whatever his comments were about Glavine’s release would be true. I want to know when they are going to RELEASE

jd

August 10th, 2009
9:02 pm

Yes give him a chance. All we need him is for one inning or two. Hard core in your face fastball pitchers is what wins playoffs. We need more of that even if it is in our bullpen.The real question is will Smoltz come back? He went to Boston to be a starter; is he willing to settle now just to pitch?

stew

August 10th, 2009
9:03 pm

Bring him back and dump Acosta. He has to build up his arm. Greatest competitor we ever had. Just gotta get him rolling.

Dan, Marietta

August 10th, 2009
9:03 pm

John cannot let go–he’s old and will not accept that fact.

jarvis

August 10th, 2009
9:10 pm

A starter????? Who in this rotation would he replace? He couldn’t even be our 6th starter once Hudson comes back in a few weeks.
I’d say put him in the pen, but he burnt this bridge during the Glavine fiasco. Time we all moved on.

Paddy

August 10th, 2009
9:14 pm

As Gabe Paul said; the worst thing management can do is sign someone elses aging super star. Gabe didn’t do well in Cleveland but he sure put the Yankess back on the map. I trust his judgement. It won’t be long before he is in the Hall of Fame My vote, no on Smoltz, per Gabe.

GPB

August 10th, 2009
9:38 pm

I think we should put McCann on waivers to get Smoltz on the roster. Clearly, this is a superior trade than Kotchman for LaRoche.

4 jacks

August 10th, 2009
9:52 pm

No way. As a poster said before, Smoltz chose to take the money, which I have no problem with, but then he throws the organization under the bus. The organization that put a lot of good players around him to help him have a great career, and have a chance at the post season every year. Not to mention a pay check that most here would love to have. No, John chose his way, the Braves need to move on. Give him the retirement of his number day and let it go.

G.F. Keith

August 10th, 2009
9:54 pm

Yes! Atlanta is home for John. I definitely think he should be resigned. He is one of the best!

bobbys cok

August 10th, 2009
9:59 pm

I don’t see how Smoltz’s struggle prove Wren “right” on GLAVINE

Walters Home Manager

August 10th, 2009
10:00 pm

Smoltz is done for. I think his next career might be in the adult film industry. He could play an innocent caddie who meets a shy, yet experimental Tiger Woods on the 6th green. Smoltz and Tiger take man love to a whole new level. The film would do well in midtown and Newnan.

Bobby Cox

August 10th, 2009
10:23 pm

He’s done…stick a fork in him…the Yankees sure did! Whatta way to go out, Smoltzie, gettin’ clobbered!

Chief knock a homa

August 10th, 2009
10:30 pm

I like the pitching coach idea!!!!

Agree!

August 10th, 2009
10:36 pm

Never bring him back. Maddux for pitching coach; agree don’t want Smoltz having young pitchers emulate him.

Smoltz needs to take his time, apologize to Wren and the team and organization, and slowly get back in the good graces of the team and Atlanta. If so, in time he will get his ceremony and jersey retired. If not, it should not be done any time soon.

Says he’s good enough to be on the golf circuit, so have at it. He may one day be the team’s golf instructor. He was a warrior, but threw this organization under the bus in the national media and that takes time for me to forgive.

Matt

August 10th, 2009
10:37 pm

Absolutely not. Anyone who wants to give him a shot has obviously been living under a rock the past month.

Ken Harrelson

August 10th, 2009
10:38 pm

John, come on and join the PGA tour. Ask them what kind of guarantee they will give you to get started.

Mike from Milwaukee

August 10th, 2009
10:44 pm

John Smoltz would be a solid addition to the Braves’ pitching lineup. As a long reliever or closer he has the mental makeup and approach to the game which would be, if nothing else, a tremendous model forsome of the younger arms. He knows the game and loves to share his experiences with the team around him. I was disappointed the Braves let him go to Boston and wonder if they have the smarts to see the vast experience and enthusiasm he could bring to this team. The Braves need a clubhouse leader; John Smoltz is just that man.

kev

August 10th, 2009
10:57 pm

John could help in the bullpen the guy fastballs are still in the mid 90s would be good as a set for one or two endings.

Ellie Dzuro

August 10th, 2009
11:09 pm

I believe Smoltzie would make a great announcer/analyst alongside of Joe Simpson and they can get rid of Big Mouth (Boog). My husband and I have watched John for 20 years and although we live in southern California, we have been Braves fans for many years. Smoltzie is a class act and a humble Christian. Would love to see him in the broadcast booth!

Mr. Snarky

August 10th, 2009
11:10 pm

chrisserser

August 10th, 2009
11:10 pm

I would have said yes had he left with a bit more class and not trashed the organization to the media when they didnt’ pay him what he thought they should. All Atlanta really wanted to do was make sure his arm could handle the strain of starting..well Boston paid the tab for finding out the answer to that question. Thats fine and good -that’s baseball. What I couldnt stomach was his attitude toward the Braves when the deal was done and even when they cut Glavine. I just dont see there being a happy homecoming and he and the front office being able to get along for the remainder of this season. As tempting as it may look on paper I say like a good many in the forum- hell no. If he’s willing to take a minimum salary and be a team player and help the Braves get to the playoffs then as they say “we’ll discuss it further.”
I’m with the Grinch, he is a self-centered SOB who would in my opinion be more of a hindrance than help at a time this team seems to be coming together as a unit for the first time all year

Cashwell

August 10th, 2009
11:18 pm

He treated us like any other team in the off-season. We need to treat him like any other 40+ year old injured pitcher with one viable pitch who just got released from his team. Bringing him in now would be a huge step back. I’d rather bring back John Rocker.

Tonto

August 10th, 2009
11:37 pm

Refer to the post of THE GRINCH of 11:46 am today and put in a gigantic DITTO for me.

Toto

August 10th, 2009
11:40 pm

We need a proven winner and Smoltz although struggling in his starts with BOS is the ticket – Watson and Warner came up a few passes / strokes short for the comeback of mature pros – my bet is Smoltz will not – if given a chance and the Braves make it into the post season -

2ndGenAtlantan

August 10th, 2009
11:48 pm

After suffering through many years as a Braves fan and then the glorious thrills of the ’90’s, I would love to see Smoltzy come back to our bullpen and eventually retire as a Brave, no matter what happens. Yes, he broke my heart when he went to Boston, but I’ll never forget the rush of seeing him come out of the Braves’ bullpen to close a game out. As great a competitor as he is, I know he’s got enough gas in the tank to get the job done at least a few more times.

Kathy

August 10th, 2009
11:58 pm

Yes…..because he can be a great leader and he has shown what he can do in the bullpen. I kind of liked the “pitching coach” idea.

But also NO…..I think he has been far to vocal this year talking about the Braves.

Steve

August 10th, 2009
11:59 pm

Get Smoltz and Glavine back – we would have the coolest bullpen in the majors! And then let them retire with the “A” on….By the way, I really think they could help down the stretch.

Old Gold

August 11th, 2009
12:00 am

I want Smoltzy sitting as pitching coach and Chipper coaching batters. That’s a combo for the ages right there.

panama city beach mike

August 11th, 2009
12:26 am

Get real, every Brave fan loves John Smoltz and always will. But time has caught up with him and he is done. See you in your retirement ceremony in Atlanta and your Hall of Fame Induction in Cooperstown. Thanks for the memories, John.

OedipusTax

August 11th, 2009
12:55 am

John shot off his mouth when he couldn’t get a contract from the Braves and then when Glavine was released. Why should the Braves respond by signing Smoltz until Smoltz apologizes to the Braves? The Braves knew he wasn’t worth 5.5 million, even at the incredibly inflated prices of professional athletes today. Have John eat some humble pie, and sign him to a minor league contract, if he’s willing. Maybe his arm still has something left, but only if John shuts up and proves he can still pitch.

ABravesFan

August 11th, 2009
12:57 am

If Smoltz decided to become a FA, then the Braves should really try to sign him to the prorated veteran’s minimum. First of all, this will means that the relationship between Smoltz and the team has been mended (which needs to happen sooner rather than later). Second, there is definitely a use for another reliever (which the Braves failed to acquire at the deadline). Third, with the Braves still in contention, that should make this a better situation for Smoltz.

slow roller

August 11th, 2009
1:20 am

Are you people crazy?! Did any of you see what Medlen did to the Dodgers. Are you brain dead?
Who cares about Smoltz! We are trying to win the Division! Make Medlen the closer! Smoltz can sucker another team into testing his arm if they want to. He made Boston the Sucker. If he had any integrity, he would go the the RedSox bullpen and try to pay them back for the all the money they wasted on him!

BrianR

August 11th, 2009
2:58 am

You people call yourselves Braves fans. Give the man the respect he deserves. He battled for this team forever. He turned down millions many times before to stay in Atlanta. I thought the Braves should have signed him at the beginning of the year. If and when he struggled the way he did in Bostan he would have given it up and retired in the only MLB uniform he should have ever worn. Smoltz is and was a great humanitarian and did countless great things for the city of Atlanta and its residents. Give the man respect. How many elbow surgeries did he come back from? How many times could he have left for greener pastures? Fans that want to throw him under the bus make me sick. The same idiots are the ones yelling to get rid of Chipper and bring Francoeur back because he was a great high school player. Give me a break. I dont think the Braves should sign him back now unless its just to retire a Brave. Baseball is a buisness and sometimes it isnt fair. The Braves from a buisness standpoint probably made the right call, but I would have rather seen Smoltz retire as a Brave. Either way show some respect losers!

Tommy Tolbert

August 11th, 2009
3:29 am

Braves cannot afford to let any games slip away by picking up a has been pitcher. Let John go to Triple A for 3-4 games and see how he does there. I will bet he gets bombed just like in Boston. Do not pick your players on sentimental reasons. Many teams have done that and floundered. Next you will want Glavine and Maddox to join the Braves.

Gen Neyland

August 11th, 2009
3:53 am

Smoltz may find his place in a pen somewhere, but I think if he didn’t actually a burn bridge out of Atlanta, he darn sure charred it. He’s moved on, the Braves move on. That’s business.

1000 times NO!

August 11th, 2009
9:39 am

Brian R.

Smoltz is not who you think he is. It’s a facade.

Phil Lunney

August 11th, 2009
9:43 am

I would offer John Smoltz the opportunity to work as a closer for the Gwinnett Braves for August. It is close to home and convenient. Given that he gets his arm strength and form up to his and the Braves standard, he could join the Atlanta Braves on August 30th or September 1st. If all that came to pass, then having an extra “closing” arm with one of the best MLB Play-off records in history, could provide a reward and a win-win situation for both the Braves and John Smoltz. If the Atlanta Braves can make a run now, John Smoltz can provide a boost in the clubhouse and maybe even on the field.

Jared

August 11th, 2009
10:55 am

nope. Smoltz left and then trashed the Braves on his way out. Then did it again after Tommy’s release. Maybe he had a point, but I know one thing… The Braves never trashed him for anything.

The Braves don’t need to throw him a bone just for old time’s sake. They don’t owe him anything.

ken healy

August 11th, 2009
11:14 am

Remember Warren Spahn. I think Smoltz is every bit as good,at least as a reliever.

Keeping It Real

August 11th, 2009
11:16 am

He trashed the organization when he left and he bombed out in Boston. The Red Sox have a terrible bull pen except for the closer, yet they did not move him to the pen. Why should the Braves? He will destroy the team chemistry. Smoltz is through. He should play golf or run for public office.

ken healy

August 11th, 2009
11:20 am

Remember Warren Spahn. Smoltze is ever bit as good at his age. Try him as a reliever and I think you would be surprised.

Jim

August 11th, 2009
12:48 pm

As much as I wish John could continue to pitch effectively, I believe that his time has come and gone. His right arm and shoulder have served him well and he is a shoo in for the HOF, but he needs to hang up his cleats before he embarrasses himself. I know the desire to pitch is still burning in him but he doesn’t pitch with his mind. John, please do yourself a favor and for the love of the game–RETIRE!

Michael

August 11th, 2009
1:48 pm

It’s hard to imagine a Braves team with out the trio of Smoltz, Glavin and Maddox. Going through my twenties and thirties with these three as Braves pitchers and the major factor had in the teams success. Now, after a few years of struggling, I feel the Braves are on the edge of taking that step back to a successful and competitive seasons. (And seasons to come) John Smoltz deserves all the credit for his part in the historic season the Braves had for those 14 seasons. But, he’s just not a part of their future. If Smoltz was as valuable as so many believe, then other teams will give him a look. If he want’s to be a part of the Braves future then he may just have to take some time and be prepared for it to not be on the field. I would not take a step back for sentimental reasons and hope the result will be the same. Hope and sentimentality didn’t win those 14 titles and a World Series. Talent, hard work and hard decisions did . . . Good luck John.
Personally, I’d like to see all three, Smoltz, Glavin and Maddox back with the Braves . . .

lkj

August 11th, 2009
3:58 pm

The Braves could let Smoltz come back to the team but I am afraid the bridge he needs to cross is in cinders.

The Senior PGA tour awaits.

James

August 11th, 2009
4:03 pm

I have mixed emotions about bringing Smotlz back- but just maybe a little home cooking might do the trick.

zincc

August 11th, 2009
4:43 pm

As much as I love Smoltz, I’m doubtful that bringing him back to pitch is in the best interest of the Braves. I would love to see him rejoin the Braves in some capacity, just not pitching. Give him his due by celebrating his illustrious career here (i.e. retiring his jersey, pomp & circumstances and all the hoopla that goes with…), and then put him to work doing something, other than pitching (I know, I just repeated myself but …..)

TommyT

August 11th, 2009
10:07 pm

The Braves did Smoltzie a favor by not re-signing him and allowing him to play in Boston. Time for new/young blood in the lineup. Smoltzie’s bod is worn out and he needs to sink into a soft rocker along side former hurling mates, Glavine & Maddux. Father Time is calling!

Mr. Opportunity

August 12th, 2009
1:44 pm

Fact: Smoltz was consistently pitching 93 mph heat with the Red Sox.
He’s definitely worth having as a relief pitcher.
I really hope the Braves’ front office doesn’t drop the ball on this chance to bring him back where he belongs.

SANTA DAWG

August 12th, 2009
5:51 pm

I THINK THAT HE SHOULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE BAT BOY, SO THE BAT BOY CAN GO BACK TO SCHOOL OR WHERE EVER HE GOES THIS TIME OF YEAR. JOHN TURNED HIS BACK ON THE BRAVES, SO LET`S TURN OUR BACK TO HIM. WE MIGHT AS WELL THROW IN GLAVIN.. HE WAS JUST LIKE SMOLTZ, HE WAS AFTER THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. HE SNUBBED THE ATLANTA BRAVES FANS TOO.

David

August 12th, 2009
8:38 pm

The Braves could only benefit from having Smoltz back. We have a excellent pitching staff but could be even better, we know what Smoltz can do its just he’s gotta get back in the groove I have not doubt’s he’ll be back to the stuff we are used to seeing from him, Starter or closer its a win win.

Robert Dean

August 13th, 2009
2:13 am

Sorry John! You dumped us ! Thanks for the nice memories but we have moved on and I suggest you do the same. Now that we have a good chemistry on the team let us not bring back in old and bleeding. We are just fine. Personally I cant wait until Chipper is gone too! He is starting to show his age too. What is his AVG. for the last 40 games about .200. Hello new and fresh and goodbye old and bleeding. It is just business!

DCB

August 13th, 2009
6:28 am

Right on Grinch. All 100% of it. One of those blog comments that one thinks “I wish I’d said that!”

tonto

August 13th, 2009
7:29 am

Pitch batting practice maybe

Skeezix

August 13th, 2009
12:29 pm

Would love to see his back in some capacity. His competitive fire and heart would only further motivate the players. Also, he knows what the postseason is all about.

shankit

August 13th, 2009
2:57 pm

The current Braves baseball team since the All Star break
has more chemistry than any team I’ve seen since
the World Championship.
I contribute it to finally getting their mind set focused
and away from the distractions from Glavine, Smoltz and Frenchy.
Let the current team play it out, they don’t need any more
distractions.

Ray

August 13th, 2009
3:21 pm

No way. Smoltz had a wonderful career that lasted much longer than most but the time has come to move on. Bow out gracefully Smoltzie.

Navigator

August 13th, 2009
6:00 pm

NO, NO, NO, NO! Smoltz should retire, and taking him back on the team is like the Falcons taking MVick, it’s a bad idea. It has taken the team 3 years to shake free from their past teams. Let’s not forget the bad press (stink) Glavine caused when the team got rid of him. Do you really want to go through that again with Smoltz. Wait a year and put him in the Braves hall of fame and be done with it.

David Smith

August 13th, 2009
7:28 pm

Smoltz is over the hill,The Braves shouldn’t resign Him. I think John,However,might be a good pitching Coach.

dawes

August 15th, 2009
6:08 pm

John

August 16th, 2009
3:47 pm

John has been a great pitcher over the years. I would say no to a comeback. Rest on your record big John and preserve your sats. Look back to the great Mickey Mantle. Had he know when to quit, he would have had a lifetime batting average of 300. He finished at 299.