You Be The GM: Braves send Francoeur to Boston Red Sox for… who?
With a Gordon Edes report circulating online that the Boston Red Sox have been scouting Braves right fielder Jeff Francoeur — and Atlanta GM Frank Wren having no comment on the matter — we turn to you, our AJC readers, for… comment on the matter of the Frenchy-to-BoSox rumors.
You Be The GM: For the pure sake of argument, let’s say you’re Braves GM and you’re shipping Francoeur to Boston. Who do you ask for in return? Another outfielder to plug the RF hole that’s created? A pitcher to shore up our rotation? Or the big bat needed to cure the offensive woes?
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Bleu_Bayou42
May 28th, 2009
10:30 pm
D-Lowe is the rock.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 28th, 2009
10:32 pm
Outside of Huddy who is not playing who is over paid on our roster?
J
May 28th, 2009
10:33 pm
Bleu He has been hurt that why is numbers are down and besides what do we lose if we give up frency whos hitting .251 kj .246 and jojo era7.00 and is 0 and 100 in his last starts
Bleu_Bayou42
May 28th, 2009
10:33 pm
Frenchy just sucks- Schafer is not ready bottom line.
J
May 28th, 2009
10:36 pm
grego blanco should get a shot schafer cant handle the fastball
Bleu_Bayou42
May 28th, 2009
10:38 pm
J, I watched the Yankee Ranger game last night and they said JH had 11 homers after the break last year and he is currently batting 241 in 31 games with 6 hrs.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 28th, 2009
10:40 pm
I don’t blame Wren or Cox. I don’t think anybody could predict that Frenchy Schafer would suck this bad, especially after the spring they had.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 28th, 2009
10:42 pm
J, you are exactly right. Grego Blanco should get his shot. He could bat lead off. Move KJ to the 6 to 8 hole in the line up where he thrives, It would be a win win. Plus we would have somebody that could still a freaking base.
scott
May 28th, 2009
10:45 pm
You ask me who we have wasted payroll on? well, here goes.. check out the saleries and you tell me…Kawakami, GA, Gonzalez, Frenchy, Glavine, ..there is 18 million right there!! we could have got ibanez or dunn and kept kawakami if you like him
scott
May 28th, 2009
10:48 pm
ibanez in center diaz in left and picked up a rf’ed for 5 mil and dropped kawasaki
rabiddawg
May 28th, 2009
10:48 pm
Well on our way to being 0 for the road trip and being buried in the NL east. Well look at that, a KJ error costs us an extra run. The Braves are FANTASTIC!!!!
rabiddawg
May 28th, 2009
10:48 pm
Enter your comments here
Bleu_Bayou42
May 28th, 2009
10:51 pm
You may have case with Kawakami if he continues to be a bust, but the rest of those guys you named aren’t really budget busters with their current contracts. I am heading to DOB’s blog. later guys.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 28th, 2009
10:51 pm
Gross majority of payroll is tied up with Chipper, Lowe and Huddy.
N. GA. BOB
May 28th, 2009
10:59 pm
I for one agree that the problem is the hitting coach. Cox must keep him around for ol time sake? Get real! FIRE TP ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Virginia Ranger
May 28th, 2009
10:59 pm
How aboiut Ted Williams for French. At least Teddy Baseball is solid
Louis
May 28th, 2009
11:03 pm
I support trading for Andruw Jones. Give them Morton.
Ted
May 28th, 2009
11:51 pm
Manny’s old bats
reno
May 28th, 2009
11:59 pm
When will Craig Heyward be ready?
reno
May 29th, 2009
12:01 am
KJ is a #6 hitter. Franceour shouldn’t hit higher than #7 in the batting order. We should of kept Anderson (now in DTW). Schafer just doesn’t look ready.
Paul Lentz
May 29th, 2009
12:07 am
Last at-bat, Franceour swings at a terrible pitch. 0-4, 2 strikeouts. Look, I know that other guys are struggling. However, all the other guys have had stretches where they have been productive and helped the Braves win, with the exception of Schafer. However, Schafer deserves a pass because he is a rookie, plays a pivotal outfield position, and has potential. He wasnt brought up to carry the offense.
However Franceour was counted on to help Chipper and McCann carry the offense. The Braves cannot afford to carry 2 starting outfielders who cant hit. Franceour either needs to be sent down to Triple A, or traded if he doesnt humble himself enough to say to himself “look, I have some mechanical errors I need to correct. If I can start hitting like I know I’m capable of, then I’ll be back up in the Majors in no time”.
But regardless, he needs to sit down. Seeing him swing at slop, swinging for the fences, at best punching weak singles to right field, etc. is getting tiresome.
Turkeylegs
May 29th, 2009
12:29 am
Maybe a middling prospect?
Boo Boo
May 29th, 2009
1:01 am
Whoever they get, he, she, or it needs to be high paid, old, weak armed, slow footed, singles hitting (nothing greater than .235), and very polite. Can’t forget polite. When a ball in the gap goes to the wall the Braves need more outfielders who say, “After you.” or “No. After you. I insist” That’s the kind of Brave I want to get to know on the AJC. Gotta love the polite ones.
Edwin
May 29th, 2009
1:33 am
I’m tired of watching the Braves play. In my 20 years as a fan I have never before said that. Watching them play right now with the players they have is disgusting. I’d much rather watch the nationals play. they at least can score runs. Trade for a player who puts the ball in play a lot. like Maggs
Chase Thomas
May 29th, 2009
1:45 am
This was a bad idea. Obviously these fans know very little when it comes to baseball.
Just glancing through this I have read the Braves should acquire Smoltz, Ortiz, Bay, and other hilarious moves. Did I also see Medlen should be shipped off as well? This is just asinine and to honestly consider trading a top pitching prospect like that along with other young talent for virtually nothing is laughable.
Francoeur needs to be moved or sent down. I’d actually rather just send him down to AAA for the remainder of the season as his contract is up anyway. He’s obviously not going to be resigned and with his huge regression trading for him just will not solve the huge glaring hole the Braves have; a consistent outfield.
The Braves aren’t healthy in the infield, and once Escobar and Infante and of course Chipper get back on track the offense will pick up. The Braves are going to be playing .500 ball all season if a major trade for a power bat isn’t made. Francoeur will not get a power bat in return. He would actually be best down in Gwinnett and really boost the attendance as Gwinnett is the only place you’ll find avid Frenchy fans these days.
Garrett Anderson was a terrible move by Wren and not signing Dunn could be costly. Anderson brings nothing the Braves already have in Diaz to the plate and having him in left is a huge liability. His defense is horrid and his plate discipline is equally horrid. Unfortunately, the Braves have no other options at this point and have to wait on Heyward.
Schafer has done fine in the outfield and people tend to forget how soon he was rushed to the majors. The Braves have been looking for someone to be the permanent CF and Schafer is that. He can cover lots of ground and is just bi polar at the plate. I blame this mostly on Pendleton and his job as the hitting coach.
This teams struggles at the plate is also associated with Pendleton’s instructions and how poorly he’s done his job. He needs to be replaced, but that probably won’t come anytime soon.
I also saw fans complaining about Hanson not being called up yet? I guess people don’t keep up with this team or MLB much because Hanson is still in AAA for arbitration reasons.
It’s becoming painfully obvious this team is a work in progress and most likely won’t be serious contenders for a couple of years.
Runnin
May 29th, 2009
2:10 am
It’s clear that there aren’t many good options out there and that most people are not only frustrated with Jeff but with the whole Braves offense, which they at least partially blame, fairly or not, Terry Pendleton and Bobby Cox.
tootle loo
May 29th, 2009
6:42 am
Send Frenchy, Kelly Johnson, and JoJo Reyes to Houston for Hunter Pence and a minor league reliever. If Houston wants more, then give them Morton instead of JoJo or (gulp) Medlen.
The lineup will be better with both Prado and Pence in it everyday. This lineup needs some guys that hit for average on a consistent basis and that make pitchers work. Do that, then just watch the power numbers soar from Chipper, Mac, and Kotch.
Pence can even play center for the time being. Then we can call up B Jones for RF and send Schafer down for more seasoning.
Pence is the perfect fit. Boston doesn’t need anything they already have. Houston could use a 2nd baseman and pitching, and we could lose a left handed bat. Makes sense for me on all sides of the ball.
BringOnHanson
May 29th, 2009
7:15 am
Trade Frenchy to Tejas for Rudy.
Smooth
May 29th, 2009
7:18 am
Let’s throw in a pitching prospect and get Jason Bay.
Marc
May 29th, 2009
7:26 am
Lol, yeah Frenchy and a pitching prospect is going to land us Jason Bay, especially when the whole idea behind the trade would be to add outfielders to the Red Sox’s team. Trade him for pitching bait, throw that bait in a package with Morton and Gorky; see if that’s enough to get Holliday. I mean, if it is, what have you lost? If it’s not, what have you lost?
Bobbymahlon
May 29th, 2009
7:42 am
I think it’s time to platoon Franceour with Brandon Jones in right or Jason Heyward or trade for Rocco Baldelli because that is about all your going to get for him at this time. It would be alot easier for Heyward to only have to face right hand hitting as he acklimates to the biggies. Franceour would also benefit by not having to face righties.
chbeyer
May 29th, 2009
7:56 am
Many silly posts here. Jeff had two 100+ RBI seasons and has earned golden glove honors. He has huge upside. Just wait until he is traded, gets some REAL batting coaching and becomes and all-star. It will happen. He is clearly in a slump and is batting poorly. That said, there is enough history there to suggest that he has a lot of potential and many years to contribut at a high level in the major leagues.
Matt
May 29th, 2009
8:15 am
Ah yes … the what have you done for me lately crowd is here in full force. Here are two things I don’t understand.
- Jeff doesn’t work the count or take pitches
- Why isn’t Jordan batting leadoff? He could bunt, earn walks, steal bases
High hopes beginning to fade
May 29th, 2009
8:47 am
Man, I admit I drank the kool-aid during spring training and believed Frenchy would have 25 homers and 100 rbi this year. As it turns out we are probably in the early stages of a downward spiral during which we could have 2-3 all-star caliber pitchers and still win 70 games.
Maybe it’s time to cut bait.
Tim
May 29th, 2009
8:54 am
Frenchy for David Ortiz…haha.
dogsbrekky
May 29th, 2009
8:55 am
Froggy, Parr and JoJO for Bay and a prospect
DavidTH
May 29th, 2009
9:07 am
I wont trade Frenchy, I’d get a new batting coach or least tell Chipper to work with him. He is a good outfielder that scares runners on base with his arm. But if you DO trade then get Jason Bay somehow.
ZaneSmith's teeth
May 29th, 2009
9:18 am
Players love Cox because he “treats them like professionals” i.e., he lets them do whatever they want. Don’t want to learn the strike zone, you don’t have to. Don’t want to move the runner over or bunt, don’t worry about it. This style may work well when you have a HOF pitching rotation that comes along once a century, but it’s not reccomended otherwise. Send Frenchy down and for God’s sake trade one of the pitchers for a mid-range OF who can hit 270 20 75.
Jeff P.
May 29th, 2009
9:27 am
In this case, I think it’ll have to be a 3 team trade. Sox want Frenchy. They need to give up some starting pitching to bring their young stud up. We don’t need pitching. Does Oakland? Probalby. We get Holliday, Oakland gets a pitcher and Boston gets Frenchy (plus possibly Medlin or someone to make this a closer to fair deal).
Susan
May 29th, 2009
9:27 am
I think the real problem here is TP. He is not a hitting coach at all and can not figure out why they keep him. Frenchy goes to Texas, uses their pitching coach he starts out great, then gets around TP and the average suffers. When Chipper has a problem with his swing does he go to TP NO he talks with his Dad, same goes with McCann.
You get a qualified hitting coach and you would see a BIG difference in the club.
Don’t count Frenchy out….
Mania
May 29th, 2009
9:28 am
Poor Jeff. How soon we forget that there are other players on the team that aren’t carrying their weight either. How about Chipper? Or Kelly Johnson? Or the next boy wonder Schafer? Francouer is tied for 1st on the team in hits and runs scored. He’s also 2nd in RBIs. So give him a break. It’s not a one man show out there. As much as I like Jeff, I hope he goes to another team and does well. At least everyone on here will shut up about it either way and move on.
Susan
May 29th, 2009
9:34 am
Hey on my comments earlier I meant to say “hitting” coach from Texas and not “pitching” coach…..
Phil
May 29th, 2009
9:35 am
As a lifelong Braves fan, I would send Francoeur AND Bobby Cox to Boston for a few gallons of lobster stew and clam chowder!
Ron
May 29th, 2009
9:52 am
You mean what I would want or what I could get for arguably the worst offensive outfielder in baseball over the past two seasons? Those are two very different things ….
They obviously need an outfielder, but they’re going to have to add somebody to the deal because what idiot would trade one-on-one for Francoeur? The Braves really screwed this one up. They’ve backed themselves way in a corner, not only with Frenchy but also with overmatched Schaefer and having nobody else who can play center.
Giving Josh Anderson away – that was brilliant.
For Frenchy? A decent prospect is all they could hope for now.
NRS
May 29th, 2009
10:17 am
anderson/diaz, jojo and frenchy for bay and daniel bard
Tom Baynham
May 29th, 2009
10:22 am
send Jeff and cash to Boston for Justin Masterson and Jonathon Van Every;send Schefer to Single A and bring back Blanco; the sooner the better!
mmhmmm
May 29th, 2009
10:23 am
a box of balls and a six pack of beer .275 OBP in the majors
David Justice?
THE BEAR Illegitimi non carborundum
May 29th, 2009
10:40 am
All of you are sooooo judgmental. How are you going to replace all those RBI’S Jeff is delivering from way down in the lineup. Oh yeah, he is second on the team at this point in time. Yep, SECOND in RBI’s.
Marc
May 29th, 2009
10:48 am
Good lord… The Red Sox are in position to win the whole thing and they’re going to, for some unknown reason, trade Jason Bay to the Braves for one of the biggest OF offensive liabilities in the game right now and a 2nd tier pitching prospect? If they were in last place, and if we threw in JJ AND another top prospect like Heyward, then MAYBE they would consider it. Bay is proving to be a stud, he’s on a winning team that can easily manage his salary. We’re not getting him, forget about it already.
DC Bravesfan
May 29th, 2009
10:51 am
I’d go back to the beginning of the season, and would have SIGNED ADAM DUNN!!! He’s wasting away here in Washington while we have Garret Anderson…