12:16 pm May 28, 2009, by AJC Sports
With a Gordon Edes report circulating online that the Boston Red Sox have been scouting Braves right fielder Jeff Francoeur — and Atlanta GM Frank Wren having no comment on the matter — we turn to you, our AJC readers, for… comment on the matter of the Frenchy-to-BoSox rumors.
You Be The GM: For the pure sake of argument, let’s say you’re Braves GM and you’re shipping Francoeur to Boston. Who do you ask for in return? Another outfielder to plug the RF hole that’s created? A pitcher to shore up our rotation? Or the big bat needed to cure the offensive woes?
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Richard
May 28th, 2009
1:22 pm
Listen Braves fans yal got to lay off Frenchie. He will turn it around. If we do end up trading him. We should look for a better bat at first base that can flash some leather. We have Jason Heyward that needs to get called up and having some growing pains but he is def. the real deal. Heyward and Shafer are def. the future of our outfield.
Supes
May 28th, 2009
1:22 pm
If you are going to be trading with the Marlins…main player back in the deal has to be Jorge Cantu (who can play 2B). Rather have him than Uggla.
Sam
May 28th, 2009
1:23 pm
Shannon, Is that the same Lars Anderson whose brothers Ole and Gene formed the wrestlers “Minnesota Wreckin Crew”?
dap01
May 28th, 2009
1:25 pm
Send the anointed one to AAA. Oh JF would be so shocked. Jeff should go to AAA and LEARN baseball. Then he may EARN his way back.
On a side note, if we send him down for the rest of the year, I bet he hits 280 with little power. My guess that he would still ask for a huge raise next year.
JF time has come and gone!
Bobby Cox
May 28th, 2009
1:26 pm
Frenchie hits well in all the simulated games we have. But then again, Remmie and Reitsma looked pretty sharp in those same simulated games.
dap01
May 28th, 2009
1:27 pm
Speed? JF runs like a 40 year old!
yogi2
May 28th, 2009
1:27 pm
Just release Shafer, FRancuer,Norton,and JoJO. They have negative Value IF sent to Gwinnett, they would only hinder the development of better players
Brian Asselstine
May 28th, 2009
1:28 pm
Schafer will never be in the Braves outfield. This guy simply cannot hit. His defense is ok but not one tenth what Andruw played for a decade. His defense is certainly not enough to keep him around. At least Andruw could save a few runs before he struck out. Schafer makes the routine plays. You never see any Sports Center type highlight catches.
Blackberry Cobbler
May 28th, 2009
1:29 pm
I’m no fan of Francine……….
But, I don’t understand all the venom spewed his way when Shafer and Anderson are just as big a problem. If not moreso.
Let’s just face it, the Braves aside from Chipper (when he’s not hurt) and McCann are about all the team has got to count on.
Chalk it up to another failed season and look forward to 2010.
rick
May 28th, 2009
1:30 pm
Getting rid of Francoeur will at this point would be more of a benefit for him than the Braves. He needs a fresh start and a new beginning. Whomever we get in return is immaterial since his value is so low. Wren will have to address the lack of outfield production with a more thought out plan.
just me
May 28th, 2009
1:33 pm
I have to agree with Plate Appearence. Jeff needs to work on being patient at the plate and regaining his confidence. Lack of confidence at the plate leads to poor results. When you read negative comments about yourself that just leads to more loss of confidence. Maybe Jeff is having a hard time seeing the ball or maybe he has been making changes to his batting stance. All kinds of things come into play. My comment to Jeff is this: Relax and play your game! Forget all the hype and find the swing that feels good to you. If you were a terrible player you would not be playing in the majors! Find your groove and make it your game!
John
May 28th, 2009
1:34 pm
Those of you who preach patience with Francoeur must not have cable?? At what point do you say enough is enough? Same with all outfielders not named Diaz. Francoeur is 68th out of 69 outfielders in the major leagues in on base percentage…and still playing every day! That is crazy!
Just wondering?
May 28th, 2009
1:34 pm
Why do immature people keep wanting a bag of balls for him? Package him with some of the excess pitchers (Jo-J0, Carlyle, Morton, etc) and get what you can for him, bring up young outfielders, release Norton, make Garrett Anderson the primary pinch hitter, because that is all he can do now, and develop for the future. At least have a plan and quit all these knee-jerk responses.
Kevin
May 28th, 2009
1:34 pm
You guys that are packaging a deal consisting of francoeur and Jo-Jo frealing reyes for Jason Bay or Matt Holliday are freaking high!!! Please share with me the stuff you are smoking. NO one in their right mind would want a “lost terrible hitter” and even more confused pitcher for a top notch player….this isnt your mvp baseball 2009 game or some video game where you can just trade whoever for all-stars….
We would be lucky to get anyone worth playing right now Jeff.
G State Ben
May 28th, 2009
1:36 pm
Josh Reddick, currently with the Sox AA Affliate in Portland, ME. He’s a local guy. Bring him home Frank!
Seriously
May 28th, 2009
1:39 pm
Some of you can blame the coaches (Pendleton) all you want, but there isn’t a coach out there that is going to give him a better understanding of the strike zone. He can’t seem to hold off on any pitch. This is NOT a new problem. If you think that a hole in his swing is the problem, your jumping more than he is.
bwell
May 28th, 2009
1:39 pm
We won’t get much as Frenchy’s value is very low (statistical wise, he is one of the worst everyday players in the league for the past two seasons). Maybe we could pry Luis Exposito from them. Exposito is a AA catcher with pretty good power. We need catching depth at that level. Another possibility is one of their young shortstops. Maybe Yamaica Navarro, who could be switched to 3rd and possibly a replacement for Chipper Jones when his time is up.
JCSmalls
May 28th, 2009
1:40 pm
I would trade Frenchy straight up for a swift kick to the junk!!
Supes
May 28th, 2009
1:41 pm
Jeff to the Nats for Willingham.
Jeff and Jo-Jo Reyes or Kris Medlen to the Marlins for Jorge Cantu and Jeremy Hermida.
Jeff to the Red Sox for a minor league prospect (if you are going to be rebuilding like you should – if you are the Braves front office)
Jim
May 28th, 2009
1:43 pm
First, a Frenchie to Boston trade will NEVER HAPPEN. He just does not fit into the Boston mold of patient hitters who know how to work the count. He has the swing at the first pitch mentality that Sox management loathes and try to break. Those who will not conform are sent packing (see Garciaparra, Nomar). Just to play along, however, a very Braves-favorable package would include Manny Delcarmen to help immediately in the bullpen and AA first base prospect Lars Anderson. I could also see a three-way deal transpiring where Francour is sent somewhere else and the Sox aquire a prospect to help fill their need at catcher. This is the more likely scenario for a trade involing Boston, Atlanta, and the French one.
Mark C.
May 28th, 2009
1:44 pm
Seriously,
Please pack up your reason and common sense and get out of here. This is a Jeff Francouer blog.
tmac
May 28th, 2009
1:44 pm
Francouer, Diory hernandez, and Medlen for Jason Bay and Takashi Saito
wp
May 28th, 2009
1:45 pm
Another young player with a great future but the knucleheads in atlanta want to get rid of him in 2 years. I hope he goes to someone the Braves play often and he wears them out.
blueberry cobbler
May 28th, 2009
1:46 pm
Send Schafer down now!!!! They sent Blanco down & he is a way-better ball player than Schafer!! As for Frenchy, the ONLY reason that he is still in Atlanta is because he is a hometown boy!!
BraveCat
May 28th, 2009
1:48 pm
Just trade him!! I am sick of hearing “he will turn it around” Oh really?!? So how long do you give him….another 2 yrs…5? He is NOT going to turn it around in Atlanta.
Sportsdawg
May 28th, 2009
1:49 pm
Hey Sam, do you remember their infamous fueds with the beloved “Torrez Brothers”?
Ray Pugh
May 28th, 2009
1:49 pm
You people need to inform me of where you buy your crack. It is obviously a high-potency product from the likes of you comments…
Eric
May 28th, 2009
1:50 pm
I like the idea of swapping him for Hermida. Both have high ceilings and expectations and have not met them.
Brian Asselstine
May 28th, 2009
1:51 pm
JF could be stomached if the Center Fielder could hit his weight which is about 180 I believe. CF is more of a problem. I love Diaz but he is not an everyday guy that will give you power. Blanco was not the answer last year but he is so much better than JS it is not funny. Why Schaffer plays is a bigger puzzle than Jeff F. Everyone else is platooned vs lefties except JS. He can’t hit rughties much less lefties.
John from Illinois
May 28th, 2009
1:53 pm
RP Michael Bowden….another strong young arm
Jeep
May 28th, 2009
1:55 pm
Plan A – send French to AAA or AA to re-learn what he earned during the off season.
Plan B – let Infante play SS, send French and Escobar to Bosox for Jason Bay
Radio sux
May 28th, 2009
1:56 pm
I’ll take Dwight Evans and a bowl of chowda
Jeep
May 28th, 2009
1:57 pm
… oh… and replace JS with Blanco
anotherdawg
May 28th, 2009
1:57 pm
Can we trade Terry Pendleton to Texas for their batting coach?
Shannon
May 28th, 2009
1:57 pm
None of this matters as long as you have a manager who has long since seen his best days and a hitting coach that is clueless. And T.P. is the so called future replacement for Cox? Ouch!!!!!!
First things first…….. fire or force Cox to retire and fire T.P.!!!
J.R.
May 28th, 2009
1:57 pm
Call the LA Angels and get Terry Evans. Young right handed power hitting outfielder with speed. He is at Salt Lake(AAA) right now Oh yeah, he’s from good old Dublin, Georgia too. Led all of minor league baseball in HR 2 years ago and is killing the ball right now
Allen
May 28th, 2009
2:00 pm
I don’t trade Frenchy and I don’t make a trade with Boston. If the Braves aren’t going to get a Top Tier outfielder in return with whom ever they are wanting to trade, then it’s pointless. They need to cut Anderson, who has been on the DL way to much and he’s to old. Send Frenchy to the minors and bring up one of the young guys, if not two of them. If the Braves are going to make a trade, I think they could get more for Kelly Johnson than Frenchy.
Ray Pugh
May 28th, 2009
2:01 pm
You anti-Schafer buffoons will be eating your ill-chosen words when he is raking like Grady Sizemore. Oh, and his on-base percentage, amazing arm and plus fielding is why he is still in the lineup…
Lazy Dawg
May 28th, 2009
2:01 pm
Not the time for a trade with nothing in return..
AFSOC Shirt
May 28th, 2009
2:03 pm
Francoeur: 253/3/21
Schafer: 209/2/8
Try any and all outfielders from the Braves’ minor league teams. Would they do better than JF and JS? Maybe, maybe not. Would they do worse? I doubt it.
baseball head
May 28th, 2009
2:03 pm
The hometown luster of Francoure is worn out. If he played to his expectation or at least had a consistent bat, could steal bases, or stop hitting into double plays then the hometown fans would support him. He reminds me of Brad Kominsk or Ryan Klesko, all the potential but they never prospered in Atlanta. Jeff needs to try somewhere else, say KC, Texas, or Giants.
coach k
May 28th, 2009
2:03 pm
For 8yrs I have said this, it is time for Bobby to go and take Pendleton with him. I gave Frenchy his chance to redeem himself, but when I see him consistantly hit to 3rd with runners in scoring position with less than 2 outs he needs to come out. There is no passion on this team, they are too white collared. This team continues to play sub par baseball and they are way more talented than this. It’s shake up time while we are still in this thing. We need a banger in there. Got nobody who is a consistant threat to hit it out.
Micki
May 28th, 2009
2:05 pm
For a pack of Juicy Fruit…thats the value JF-K has right now…
Allen
May 28th, 2009
2:06 pm
I agree Terry Pendleton needs to go, he’s not a hitting coach. The Braves need to get a real hitting coach!!!!!
Brian Asselstine
May 28th, 2009
2:07 pm
Forget JF and JS. I have a great idea:
1b Willie Montanez
2b Rod Gilbreath
3b Larvell “sugarbear” Blanks
ss Darrell Chaney
lf Jeff Burroughs
cf Dale Murphy
rf “Yours Truly” Brian Asselstine
c Biff Pocaroba
p Buzz Capra
Mgr. Bobby Cox
Glory Days 110 losses every year. Fun tinmes at the ball yard though. Sit in any seat you want. No ushers to tell you what to do. Average attendance 5,234. BRING BACK THE GLORY DAYS OF ATLANTA BRAVES BASEBALL.
Pete, Skip and Ernie from Fulton County Stadium
Brian Asselstine
May 28th, 2009
2:09 pm
Ray Pugh- If you think JS is the next Grady Sizemore, you would fail a drug test
Aaron
May 28th, 2009
2:11 pm
I honestly don’t care who we get in return just get rid of him. And take Schafer with him. How can Cox and Wren sit back and watch 2/3’s of their outfield have now clue how to hit. And TP has no freakin clue how to teach them to make adjustments. This organization is seriously turning into a bigger joke than they were back in the 80’s before the streak happened!
P-Town Brave
May 28th, 2009
2:15 pm
They’d get a better return of investment if they could package Francoeur/KJohnson/ + one of Morton or Medlen to a team
tony
May 28th, 2009
2:19 pm
if we trade jeffie po we should also get rid of our non teaching hitting coach if he can be called a hitting coach.
Patrick Duffy
May 28th, 2009
2:19 pm
The Red Sox bat boy’s jock strap probably has seen better play than Frenchy… If we could somehow pull that off!!