Gun jihadists or armed defenders?

Moderated by Tom Sabulis

Congress appears likely to tackle some form of new gun-control legislation in the aftermath of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. Today, a right-to-carry proponent writes in favor of arming school teachers and administrators, arguing that a gun-free zone designation did not, and could not, prevent the tragedy. On the other side, a local commentator says our country’s gun fundamentalism makes it impossible to create and police effective laws.

Commenting is open below Kelly Kennett’s column.

Gun jihadists spur fanaticism

By Parthiv Parekh

The Arab world has jihadi fundamentalists. We, in America, have gun fundamentalists.

Steeped in their convictions, and willing to die for it, the jihadis are indifferent about the damage they are causing to the image and spirit of Islam. American gun fundamentalists are just as indifferent to the damage they are causing to the image of America and its promise of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Only a degree of fundamentalism explains a complete breakdown in logic, perception and common sense that is evident in the mindless opposition to any checks and balances on gun sales and ownership. The failure to see the connection between easy access to guns, including assault rifles, and the prolific number of gun fatalities is a blind spot that only fanaticism can allow.

What could be simpler? It doesn’t need research, experts, data or studies to see a simple truth that guns will kill far more in an uncontrolled environment than in a well-regulated one.

And yet the cultural and recreational worship of firearms, a dubious fallback on the Second Amendment and a disproportionately strong NRA that holds society hostage to its agenda have made sane gun regulation a convoluted debate.

Following are some of the mindless slogans and disingenuous strategies used by gun fundamentalists in their attempts to cloud an otherwise straightforward issue.

Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. True. Similarly, hammers and drills don’t build houses, people do. Yet, we don’t see crews coming to a construction site without their tools. Absurd, right? But that’s what gun fanatics want us to believe about guns. The fact is, violence and mental illness are a part of our society, and guns are the enablers for those afflicted with either.

If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Another version of this clever-sounding but superficial sound byte is the claim that we don’t need new laws, because we can’t or won’t enforce existing ones. By that argument, if we can’t enforce speeding on our highways, should we simply remove all speed limits? And if we can’t enforce murder laws due to technicalities or a shortage of manpower or resources, should we simply make murder legal?

The NRA has done its best to prevent sane legislation from passing, then claimed that gun laws don’t work.

If gun laws aren’t working, there are two possible responses available: Fix, invest, strengthen and find ways to make them work; or, the NRA approach: Give up on regulating a lethal weapon that routinely kills a huge number of innocent people.

Columnist Thomas Sowell points out that gun ownership is higher in rural areas compared to urban ones and among whites than blacks, yet the murder rate is lower in rural areas and in white communities compared to urban areas and black communities. Does that mean communities should increase gun ownership to reduce gun deaths? Hardly. If anything, the scenarios described above only point to the fact that urban and black communities are more prone to violence than rural white ones. And so, there is more reason, not less, to strengthen the regulation and enforcement surrounding the purchase and ownership of firearms in these communities.

NRA sympathizers love to cherry-pick examples of situations where an armed civilian may have foiled the plans of an armed perpetrator and in the process even saved a life or two. But for every such incident, there are many more where the bad guys have won.

A clear indication of the fundamentalism surrounding guns is that laws that would thwart criminals and the mentally unstable, and do nothing to restrict the legal use of firearms, are robotically opposed.

Prayers and talk of healing have been abundant in response to Sandy Hook, our latest in a long line of national tragedies inflicted by guns. But there can’t be much healing or a sense of safety if we are not prepared to do something to counter the gun fundamentalism that plagues our society.

Parthiv Parekh is editor of Khabar magazine, based in Norcross. A version of this column appears in this month’s issue of the magazine.

Armed citizens best defense

By Kelly Kennett

The recent events in Newtown, Conn., are a stark reminder that evil exists in this world. Like other parents, grandparents and citizens, we at GeorgiaCarry.org are horrified by these senseless killings of precious children. The people of good will in this great nation do not want to sit helplessly by while events like these unfold; they want to do something. Our first instincts to take action to protect the innocent and defenseless are a reflection of the finest values of Americans.

In response to this desire to take action, we as a nation will have in the coming weeks and months a collective discussion regarding how to prevent such violence in the future. A person prepared to slaughter innocent children and take his own life is not deterred by laws. These actions instead speak to a basic lack of respect for the lives of others. A part of prevention will certainly involve an examination of our current culture and how it may permeate the world view and decision-making of those who would wreak such havoc.

At GeorgiaCarry.org, we are in favor of taking public actions that have a reasonable likelihood of making a difference, while not infringing on the rights of law-abiding citizens. We believe that an armed citizenry is the best omni-present defense against acts of evil. Citizens, including teachers and school administrators, should have an opportunity to defend themselves and the children in their care against attacks. In our opinion, it is unconscionable that our present laws leave our children defenseless in school. Our schools need an armed presence prepared to resist the aggression of the violent. Part of the public discussion needs to include how, in an orderly and safe fashion, to ensure that those in schools are no longer defenseless. In the coming debate, we will offer specific proposals regarding how to make this defense a reality.

The list of laws, including gun laws, that the Newtown perpetrator broke is lengthy. Apparently unbeknownst to the shooter, the school was already a gun-free zone. Still, some have suggested that we need additional gun control laws. The details of those proposed laws vary widely but have a single consistent feature: They have no plausible chance of doing anything other than infringing upon the rights of those who pay attention to laws in the first place — that is, the law-abiding. With more than 300 million firearms in circulation in America, laws that further regulate the features of new firearms have no substantial effect on potential future active-shooter incidents. Do we really want to debate the precise number of rounds per magazine that we feel is appropriate to shoot at elementary school children? Those who propose new gun restrictions apparently want to do just that.

Finally, as we move forward, we should be ever mindful of the nature of rights. You have no right at all if its continuance depends upon the good conduct of others. Your right to speak and write freely cannot depend on what others may say. Your right to worship as you please cannot depend on what worship others find acceptable. Your right to be free from warrantless searches in your home cannot depend on whether others keep illegal things in theirs. The right to keep and bear arms is no different. We would tread a dangerous path in this country if we begin picking and choosing the rights we individually prefer to limit.

Kelly Kennett is president of the board of directors of GeorgiaCarry.org.

72 comments Add your comment

Chris T

January 3rd, 2013
6:57 pm

@ Phil Why dont you take another look at the rise of the Third Reich since we’re talking about Nazi Germany. Hilter DID just about everything Obama has done so far. And it seems most Americans are asleep to it. What you think just because Hilter is dead, we dont have to worry about evil Tyrants anymore. Wake up!! I feel sorry for you people, you have no spine.

GeorgeWindgate

January 3rd, 2013
6:49 pm

Fear is the most effective tool in destroying the soul of an individual, and the soul of a people. Gun advocates love to use fear to sell more guns and promote their own selfish interests. What will be their next step after arming our schools, arming students, RPGs, tanks in the parking lot? We need disarmament before we become one armed nation under God.

Karl T Frederick, the President of the NRA in the 1920-30s helped bring about the first gun control laws. When asked if the newly drafted laws violated the second amendment, he said “he had not given it any study.” In 1976 when the NRA decided to spend more time on outdoors and environmental and less on lobbying, the newly formed lobbying arm staged a coup and took over the NRA. The result became the modern fear mongering NRA of today.

Lawrence Lal

January 3rd, 2013
6:48 pm

It is an achieved of long history that America is known to have worship guns than find alternative for self protection. More civilians are armed in the U.S. than anywhere else in the world. At present there is panic over the Connecticut massacre and how to deal with gun tottering law that have taken many life.

In America the twisted faith of 2nd amendment of the constitution that entice citizens’ right to bear arms has troubled the nation that once said, gun ownership was to protect citizens from a tyrannous government. The trend of that tradition has a taken a discourse where guns are the adamant in most death in the country.

Human rights groups and anti-gun advocates are once again are reeling in proposing the gun control law. The Bill of Rights on gun Law has become a nitty-gritty affair thus a challenge to Bill of Rights on gun ownership that has construed to crimes of decimation of many citizens.

Prior, there was no concern for 32, 000 citizen who died from gun related or involuntary of gun crime past year, 500 deaths in the US Presidents home town of Chicago alone,but the massacre of school children has drawn attention of both pro and anti gun advocates into a melee of constitutional gun right law.

What constitutes crime is an illusion but what is used to commit crime is in question. As most crime involves hand gun, which is a top killer then auto accident, there are great concern for safety.

The Connecticut incident has shocked America and has driven citizen a amok feelings on how to play safe game of trust for them and their children.

Tightening gun laws or banning military style assault weapon may not be just the answer. The legislators may have to come with a comprehensive solution to control the gun right’s escalation that has gone haywire.

Phil

January 3rd, 2013
6:43 pm

Thank You Parthiv and Thank You Atlanta Journal.

“Let the children die, but don’t take away our guns!”

Are we living in a war zone or during peace time?
Fantasy’s about good guys with guns, killing bad guys with guns are just that a fantasy. [Why let the bad guy have a gun in the first place, since the bad guy so often take some with them when they go?]

Meanwhile 6 year old children are getting their heads blown off at schools, in restaurants, in movie theaters, at the grocery store and watching their elected representatives speak.

And the NRA stands opposed to finding and preventing mentally ill people from having an assault rifle [the 1st of which (StG 44) was invented by Nazi Germany] or any other gun.

Scott

January 3rd, 2013
6:42 pm

The problem with Mr. Parekh’s argument is his use of emotionally driven arguments that are devoid of facts. He contradicts himself by using idioms in one sentence (cherry pick) and then chastising “gun fundamentalists” for using similar catch phrases like, “If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.” If we look at gun crimes in Australia and Britain, we see the crime numbers increasing. Britain’s gun crime has increased an incredible 35%. Australia’s gun crimes have slightly increased over the years, NOT decreased. Suicide by gun in Australia has gone down, but suicides overall have remained the same. Among other crimes in Australia and Britain, rape, violent crime, and burglaries have increased. This is because criminals know homeowners and people on the streets are defenseless. As far as the so called “assault weapon”: less than 2% of all gun crimes in the US are committed with “assault weapons”. Banning rifles with removable magazines would not accomplish the decrease in crime the gun-control advocates are claiming. When looking at a problem the first thing to inspect are the facts, all of them, not just the ones that make your point look good. When looking at gun crime, almost every statistic shows more gun control does not reduce crime, but perhaps increases it. Also, “assault weapons” do not take up a significant part of gun crime, in fact, as stated earlier, less than 2%. There are plenty of incidences each week where someone’s life was saved or a rape or violent crime was prevented because of a firearm. Save the emotion and use common sense. Arm teachers like Israel has and empower people with the means to defend not only themselves but society as a whole. Learn about firearms and the more you know the less they will frighten you.

Chris T

January 3rd, 2013
6:31 pm

As far as the image of America goes, well that was wiped out by politicians and big government that keeps sticking its nose in other countries business that we have no business in being there in the first place. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country, protects YOUR promise of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This is amendment was put in to protect us from an the tyranny of an over-powered government. If they somehow take that right away what is to stop the government from becoming a Dictatorship. Isnt that the reason this country was founded, to be free from tyranny, government, and freedom of religion? Well if citizens are not armed, who is there to protect those rights, your BIG GOVERNMENT? I DONT THINK SO!! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES PEOPLE!!

AJ

January 3rd, 2013
6:24 pm

What happens when a 6th grader gets hold of teacher’s gun? What’s the likelihood of that happening vs. the likelihood that an armed teacher will stop a shooting (which to be fair has actually happened at least a couple of times).

Jim

January 3rd, 2013
6:19 pm

Donot think you should have used happiness unless you were speaking to the fella who gets the early prison release, or the fella who will be selling revolvers doubling the handgun on the street to replace the semi automatic or the fell who will be selling the legal weed or the fella who is making the extra cash on gambling,or the fella getting the the extra dollarfor registering a gun or selling a concealed and carry permit. There are alot of unhappy people who will be victims of the early release inmate,the sales of the revolver,well you get the point. The person who wins the next vote and the fella who rakes in the next tax dollar will be happy. The rest of us will stand in the lines looking at out loved ones who were run over by a intoxicated or high person,others at the hands of a repeated offender and loss of our tax dollar,because we have to make up for two past convicted Governors and one wants to make changes again taking jobs and money out of the hard working peoples pockets to get the next campaign ticket looking good for his fund raising supporters.

The Truth

January 3rd, 2013
6:13 pm

Waaaaaaa! I don’t like living in America, so I’m gonna piss and moan about all my rights and freedoms!!!

Albert

January 3rd, 2013
6:11 pm

The problem here is our bloated government and your rights… freedom is never wisely given up. History has shown us that.One cannot give in to the notion that that government has a right to circumvent the constitution .Your rights to be free never just disappear one day.They erode over time piece by piece…then years or even decades later you can look back and see freedom as an Illusion.