Two views on averting the fiscal cliff

Moderated by Rick Badie

Can the “fiscal cliff” be averted? President Barack Obama and Congress must strike a deal to prevent nearly $600 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts that kick in Jan. 1. Republicans want spending cuts. The White House and Democrats favor higher taxes on the rich.  A Georgia congressman from each party writes about the need for bipartisan compromise.

Finding balance will avert fiscal cliff

By David Scott

On New Year’s Day, America will either wake up clear-headed and positive with better days on the horizon or start the New Year with a nauseating hangover called the “fiscal cliff.” Our nation is, indeed, facing a financial crisis of soaring magnitude.

Congress is gridlocked in addressing the national debt. Businesses face great uncertainty. Continued bickering and gridlock could ruin our fragile economic recovery and plunge it into a deepening and long-lasting recession. This would be devastating. We cannot let it happen.

There is a tremendous hunger in America for Democrats and Republicans to work together and agree on a balanced approach of cutting spending and raising revenue to prevent our nation from going over this dangerous and destructive fiscal cliff.

Without our action, the Bush tax cuts for all incomes will expire Dec. 31. Automatic cuts will immediately slash $55 billion from defense and $55 billion from domestic programs, across the board, without any consideration of the terrible consequences for the American people. We must stop this irresponsible sequestration of automatic cuts.

My beloved state of Georgia leads the nation in bank failures. We are near the top in home foreclosures. Our job losses are worse than the national average. Education budgets are already cut to the bone.

In my district, in Cobb County, many Lockheed-Martin employees could lose their jobs. And proposed cuts to our hospitals would be devastating. Our college education and research programs face steep cuts, which caused the presidents of UGA and Georgia Tech to join in a well-written column recently in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Through the November elections, the American people spoke loudly that we must have both spending cuts and increased revenue. As proposed by Democrats in Congress and President Barack Obama, our balanced budget plan was the clear winner in this election. The distinction between President Obama and Gov. Romney was very clear. The majority of the American people agree with Democrats — that it is not asking too much for some of our wealthiest citizens to help just a little more; that we keep the Bush tax cuts for the middle class and small businesses; and that we protect Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

My Republican colleagues do not have to give up their beliefs to find agreement with Democrats. President Bill Clinton found budget-balancing success by working with a Republican-led Congress. Tremendous economic growth followed.

Going forward, we must grow the middle class by investing in education, science, technology, infrastructure and health care and increasing manufacturing in our country.

Our nation is great because we have a history of rising to great challenges, working through our differences, and seizing victory for the American people. And we will rise to this challenge. We will avoid this fiscal cliff. And, once again, we will seize victory and move America forward.

U.S. Rep. David Scott represents District 13.

Revenue, spending cuts key to fixing debt woes

By Johnny Isakson

Now that the election has been decided, we face a critically important deadline in a matter of a few weeks.

If Congress and President Barack Obama fail to address the “fiscal cliff” by Dec. 31, tax rates will increase to 15 percent on the bottom end and 39.6 percent on the top end. The capital gains tax rate will rise from 15 percent to 20 percent; the estate tax will increase to 55 percent; the dividend tax rate will increase to the marginal rate of the taxpayer; and the child tax and earned income credits will expire.

Additionally, the Budget Control Act’s sequester will go into effect and will trigger across-the-board cuts, including $55 billion to $65 billion in cuts to defense spending alone.

We are in a dangerous position if we don’t act now. In September 2008, we faced another kind of fiscal cliff and Congress failed to act quickly. Five years later, we are still recovering from the drop in the markets because of our slow response back then. If we don’t address the current fiscal cliff in this lame-duck session of Congress, we will put the nation in the same precarious position.

Sitting down at the table to find common ground is the first step. We all agree that we must address this by tackling three things: spending, revenue and so-called entitlements.

In terms of spending, we should cut discretionary spending, but that alone will not solve our debt and deficit problem. Congress should return to a responsible budget and appropriations process focused on savings and accountability. As for defense spending, the consensus is that arbitrary cuts would be devastating to our defense. Instead, we should cut spending through a responsible, strategic approach.

When it comes to Medicare and Social Security, I don’t consider these programs to be “entitlements” because Americans have paid into them their entire working lives. That’s why we must take steps to preserve these programs for those who have paid into the system and for future generations as well. I propose extending the age of eligibility for Social Security for our children and grandchildren, just as President Reagan and House Speaker Tip O’Neill did in 1983. Medicare is a tougher issue, but converting from a fee-for-service program to premium support and means testing is a first step.

As for the tax code, it would not be difficult to come up with a plan that lowers rates and raises revenues. For example, a possible solution could be means-tested deductions.

Jumping off the fiscal cliff is not an option. I’m ready to sit down at the table with anyone who is willing to find solutions. Georgians sent me to Washington expecting no less. We need a game plan for the next decade to reduce our deficits and reduce our debt. When we do, we’ll return to the greatness America has always known.

Sen. Johnny Isakson is a Georgia Republican.

15 comments Add your comment

Robert

November 30th, 2012
8:58 am

The American People (elderly, women, minorities, gays & lesbians, Muslims & Jews, etc.) have spoken loud and clear. President Obama was elected by another landslide victory and he should agressively put his plan into action to avoid the political financial “cliff”.

The GOP/tea party (klansmen, skinheads, militia’s, birther’s, etc.) needs a complete makeover. The old model is broken beyond repair (Old White Southern Guys). The GOP needs to work with President Obama in collaboration in order to win seats in the House and Senate in 2014 and create a winning strategy to re-capture the White House in 2016.

The American People

ByteMe

November 29th, 2012
4:37 pm

The “fiscal cliff” is a manufactured “crisis”. The numbers we’re talking about total about 5% of GDP. Yes, we’ll end up with a recession, because that much of an economic dislocation is too much for the economy to handle. On the other hand, in 4-5 quarters — about the length of a normal business recession — we’ll be well on our way to fixing the deficit issues, which will be much better for the nation in the long run.

Fiscal cliff? More like a fiscal curb with a lot of cheerleading to keep us stuck on a cracked sidewalk.

Matt P

November 29th, 2012
3:58 pm

There is no fiscal cliff. That’s just marketing by people that want to cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. See – Johnny Isakkson. Social Security does not and can not by law contribute to the debt, and yet here he is, trying to raise eligibility ages AGAIN. They were already raised once, from 65 to 67. Where will it stop? Does Johnny want folks who have paid for old age insurance their entire working life to have to work till 69 or 70 until they can collect the benefits they’ve paid for?

Johnny’s all hat and no cattle when it comes to debt reduction. If the debt is such a terrible problem, why on Earth is he suggesting LOWERING tax rates? They’re already at record lows. There is ZERO evidence this has boosted the economy, and OVERWHELMING evidence it has caused gigantic deficits and the current debt. We need to eliminate loopholes AND raise rates, including introducing new brackets. And it’s time to tax capital gains the same way we tax income earned from labor. Don’t worry – the Mitt Romneys of the world will continue to invest money. What, you think if we tax cap gains over a million bucks at 50%, Mitt’s going to say screw it and strap on a McDonald’s apron?

Back to there is no fiscal cliff, though. The Bush tax cuts are expiring – which is what the Republicans who passed them originally designed them to do. The sequestration is happening – which is what the deficit maniacs wanted. Hey, Republicans, cheer up! You spent the last 2 years crying about the debt. You won! We’ve put austerity ahead of the economy.

So, let’s make a deal. We can start worrying about the fiscal cliff when you admit that Keynes and Krugman were right and that Bowles and Simpons are idiots. I mean, you already have, right? That’s the whole point of the fiscal cliff – people are worried that raising taxes and cutting government spending will depress demand, and that the economy (which is driven by demand) can’t take that hit right now. So, once you admit that you’ve been wrong for years, and that you only used the debt as an excuse to cut social programs, we can do what’s right. We can pass a gigantic stimulus package to get us out of this terrible economy, which went over the cliff a long time ago. As part of that, we can make sure taxes don’t go up for most people – except for those who a raise in taxes wouldn’t really affect their spending, and thus wouldn’t affect the demand problem we’re facing. Then, once the recession is over, we can start addressing the long-term fiscal challenges facing us. Deal?

Bob D

November 29th, 2012
3:25 pm

Mr. Scott said his party proposed a balanced budget plan and easily gave their plan for increasing revenue, however, he did not give any detail regarding spending cuts. The increased revenue plan cannot possibly pay for all the spending plans, no matter how worth-while they are. So, what is the plan for cuts this fiscal year that will give us the balanced budget in the near future? What cuts will be made in 2013 to start growing the middle class?

MANGLER

November 29th, 2012
3:03 pm

Any one else noticing that the “cliff” amounts to about 1/8th the annual deficit? Even if this “draconian” step takes place, what about the other … $1 Trillion more slated to be spent next year than the Govt takes in? Even after the cliff, Federal income will need to go up by around $3,000 per American, or $5,000 per employed American.

Quoshanique

November 29th, 2012
1:46 pm

At this point I do not believe we as a nation have the courage and discipline to rein in federal spending.

We’re like hopelessly addicted meth addicts, unwilling to surrender any of our government freebies that we’ve learned can be financed by printing money and selling bonds to the Chinese.

An observer

November 29th, 2012
10:40 am

It seems to me that the alternatives being discussed are no better than the supposed fiscal cliff. The alternatives sound like lets not increase taxes or cut spending so we can continue huge deficit spending.

USC-69

November 29th, 2012
10:04 am

I agree with SAWB. If the neocons can not get their way, the compromise solution proposed by Congressman Scott will be blocked. Let them then take responsibility for trying to wreck the economy and the healthcare and survival funds of the poor and retired elderly. If an immediate revolution does not occur, Obama, the Senate, the intelligentsia left in the House, and, if necessary, the Supreme Court, will save the Nation and be remembered by History as Heroes. Democracy at work – sluggish and painful, but with the right outcome. It could be a lot easier.

Tequila

November 29th, 2012
9:28 am

There is something missing from Rep Scott’s comments. No where does he talk about spending cuts. He just continues the tired old mantra of tax the rich. Hey England tried that, maybe he ought to see how that worked out for them. Hint: 2/3 of their so called rich left the country. I also find it funny, not ha-ha funny, that while the Democrats and in particular Obama who signed the sequestration bill with much flourish and media attention are now disavowing it. Oh sure they want to cut the military budget but don’t you dare touch anything else. The Republicans get burned time after time by agreeing to tax hikes now in exchange for future spending cuts which never occur. We need real cuts not this cut in the rate of growth that they peddle. For the economically clueless, slowing the rate of growth is not a cut, it is merely saying that instead of increasing your budget by 10% they will only allow a 5% increase. The budget is still increasing. Politicians of all stripes however know that votes are bought by bringing home the bacon so quite frankly the real taxpayers will continue to screwed and the moochers will continue to grow.

SAWB

November 28th, 2012
7:31 pm

I think most of us agree to fix the fiscal situation will require a combination of revenue increases and spending cuts. So, what if we just let the automatic cuts and taxes kick in as planned? Then let the Congress and President address specific areas that need attention after the fact. I know they have made the whole thing seem very scary, but really their all still just playing politics with us.