Are malls dying?

Moderated by Rick Badie

The struggles of some shopping malls here (such as Gwinnett Place in Duluth and Southlake in Morrow) and across the nation have been well-documented. Shopping centers can struggle financially when demographics change, anchor stores pack up and move, specialty shops lack appeal or spending patterns reflect a dull economy. Today, a mall real estate specialist and a local revitalization executive weigh the challenges and the future facing these retail destinations.

By Michael P. Glimcher

The death of the mall has been proclaimed over and over. Many thought it couldn’t weather the recession or would crumble from online retail. However, to say the mall will die is to underestimate that consumers are resilient, the mall is adaptable and people love to shop.

Malls remain highly-valued fortress-like assets. Mall real estate investment trusts are able to draw equity from top institutional investors attracted to stable cash flows from long-term leases that often average more than seven years.

Regardless of economics, the recession changed how we shop. As consumers tightened belts, we saw the rise of “fast fashion.” Retailers, like Forever 21 and Old Navy became household names. The industry also ushered in the outlet era. Well-known outlet brands increased their stores and full-price retailers re-evaluated strategies.

Today, with so many economic and political uncertainties, we can expect to see the popularity of value retail continue and to see “fast fashion” expand into categories like home décor. We will also see the pace of outlet growth continue short-term, and outlet and full-price retail exist closer together.

The recession has changed how people enjoy the mall. During the recession, Americans invented the “staycation.” Consumers traded in luxurious vacations for frugal experiences closer to home, like shopping, dining and movies. As a result, malls have seen dramatic increases in the number of restaurants as well as other entertainment venues like movie theaters, skating rinks or comedy clubs, set up shop.

More experiences are also being added. With the rise of online shopping, retailers are finding new ways to engage shoppers with brands. For example, lululemon athletica has introduced free yoga classes and Nike coordinates running clubs. Stores like Williams-Sonoma and Pottery Barn offer classes that integrate their products.

At Glimcher Realty Trust, we use the term” experience retail” to describe anything you can do at the mall but can’t do online. You can’t have a salad and a glass of wine online. You can’t try on a purse or have your makeup done. Shopping is a tactile and social experience.

Looking forward at the success of the U.S. shopping mall, some of the basic tenets of commercial real estate remain. First and foremost, it’s about location. Highway traffic, accessibility and proximity to dense residential areas are some of the leading factors in a mall’s longevity.

Reinvestment is also critical. Because of their size, in many cases more than one million square feet, malls require tremendous maintenance and upkeep. While renovations and updates can be costly, they are important to maintain the quality of the center and to attract and retain top national brands coveted by shoppers. Clean aesthetics with modern amenities add to the allure of the shopping experience.

Finally, with limited non-outlet mall development and retailers well-schooled to survive in this economy, it’s safe to say the mall isn’t going anywhere. It just might look a little different.

Michael P. Glimcher is chairman and CEO of Glimcher Realty Trust.

By Leo Wiener

On Aug. 28, the Gwinnett County Board of Commissioners took a bold step and endorsed a vision for the Greater Gwinnett Place area.

For the past year, the Gwinnett Place Community Improvement District (CID) has worked with Gwinnett County, the Gwinnett Chamber of Commerce, stakeholders and concerned citizens to craft strategies that can dramatically transform greater Gwinnett Place into a vibrant mixed-use center.

Launched in partnership with Gwinnett County and the Atlanta Regional Commission, the Gwinnett Livable Centers Initiative (LCI) is a map that will create a new type of community in Gwinnett’s central business district. Successful implementation of this plan will require a public-private partnership. The LCI process helped stakeholders understand that doing nothing or maintaining status quo would lead to failure. Gwinnett Place must continually evolve and remake itself if it is to be competitive again.

To achieve this vision, the plan recommends strategies such as opportunity zones and tax allocation districts. The plan calls for the revision of local land-use policies and regulations and infrastructure investments aimed at creating a more walkable development. Central to this strategy is the creation of what has been called the Great Lawn, a public gathering place that can provide an outdoor venue for gatherings, art, entertainment and recreation. This would be a central green space or public park that will span both sides of Pleasant Hill Road.

The LCI concept master plan also presents two options for the future redevelopment of Gwinnett Place Mall. One option envisions the structure remaining intact with a complete redesign of the mall facade, the addition of parking decks and office buildings and residential developments, similar to improvements made at Perimeter and Cumberland malls.

The second option calls for the redevelopment of the mall by removing the roof and running a grid of streets through the mall’s center. Anchor stores Macy’s, Belk, Mega Mart, JC Penney and Sears would be converted to free-standing structures. This long-term option would create a true walkable urban core similar to Atlantic Station for downtown Atlanta.

It is important to know the rebirth of the area is no longer completely tied to the success or failure of the mall. Over the last decade, greater Gwinnett Place has begun to evolve while its mall declined. The area has shown the vibrancy needed to initiate a transformation and rebirth regardless of the mall. This transformation has been evident over the past few years with the renovation of existing retail centers and investment in new development. With or without a revitalized mall, the Gwinnett Place area continues to be a vibrant marketplace of distinct cultures and experiences.

Greater Gwinnett Place’s strategic location in the heart of the region’s most vibrant community has much of the amenities, infrastructure, and transportation needed to complement the area’s rebirth. Even greater transformation is possible, ahead of any rebirth of the mall.

Leo Wiener is chairman of the Gwinnett Place Community Improvement District.

 

29 comments Add your comment

nelson

September 26th, 2012
7:42 am

There should be a look at Destiny USA in Syracuse N.Y., the 6th largest mall in the U.S. and brand new. On the top level there is real car racing, hard to believe but true, car racing. Malls have to be inventive to survive.

Couch Potato

September 26th, 2012
7:42 am

Honestly, I don’t see how any department store stays in business. Online shopping is just too convenient.

Reality

September 26th, 2012
3:33 am

Lets be honest… Malls die when the riff-raff move in. Gwinnett Place and Dissapointment Mills are prime examples. Gwinnett place is a ghost town — legitimate buyers with cash to spare were driven out years ago by the throngs of gangs and barely dressed baby mamas. Legitimate stores replaced by kiosks selling weaves, toy helicopters, and promises of modeling contracts. It’s now happening across 85 at disappointment mills. The only disposable cash in that mall walks in the side entrance of bass pro shop, gets their stuff, and scoots the heck out to safer ground. Walk through the place on a Saturday night… If you dare. Low cost apartments near malls with public transportation bus stops are the death knell for geographic areas, it’s a well known formula.

Chrysalis

September 25th, 2012
9:05 pm

Mall of GA is not an alternative to Gwinnett Mall. Mall of GA is lightyears away especially in traffic. Ill just shop online or go to gwinnett place.

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Hans Laetz

September 25th, 2012
8:47 pm

Can’t have a salad and glass of wine, Mr. Glimcher, while online shopping? Watch me. Fridge is over here, wine is in the next room. And the UPS guy will arrive at 1:30.

New paradigms are hard to digest.

SAWB

September 25th, 2012
7:55 pm

ABB said, “Anyone that’s been to Lenox Square knows that it’s a freak show.”

I shop at Lenox quite often and I’m not really sure what you mean by, “Freak Show”. Lenox is a very nice mall with a very diverse mix of stores and patrons. Yes, they have an overabundance of teens on Friday and Saturday nights, but what’s wrong with that. Yes, they do have some crime, but I suspect per capita it is not really that high. Yes, Lenox has some challenges, but a “Freak Show”? No, I don’t see it.

Don Abernethy

September 25th, 2012
7:52 pm

Yes, and under the current administration the thrift stores are increasing.

ABB

September 25th, 2012
7:30 pm

By avoiding the mall, your avoiding the crime component. Anyone that’s been to Lenox Square knows that it’s a freak show.

SAWB

September 25th, 2012
7:28 pm

No, malls are not dying, but they have to try harder to provide consumers with a first class experience. We can order basically anything we want and have it delivered to our homes, so malls have to be more than just retailers. Malls still have the opportunity to provide that first class experience by including dining, entertainment and shopping in one location.

Also, keep in mind that location is a part of a first class experience and few people have a desire to venture into sketchy areas. Gwinnett Place suffered from a glut of apartments which attracted a different class of shopper. The new malls such as Discovery and Mall of Georgia siphoned off the last few shoppers. Gwinnett Place is a prime example of bad planning on the part of Gwinnett County.

At the end of the day for many of us malls are the closets we have to a “Main Street” and I doubt that is going to change anytime soon. As the economy improves malls will come back. As a matter of fact I see Lenox just announced a major upgrade…