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Failure has marked the city of Atlanta’s attempts to curb panhandling, particularly aggressive begging from repeat offenders. The latest proposal calls for stiffer penalties such as mandated jail time for a third conviction. Homeless activists say the measures criminalize poverty; proponents add that tougher laws are aimed at a small group of incorrigible mendicants. Below, a business leader writes how panhandling affects commercial life and civic pride, while an activist says laws don’t get at the root of the problem.
Commenting is open below Joe Beasley’s column.
By William “Chick” Ciccaglione
Underground Atlanta is a major attraction, welcoming millions of tourists, convention goers, residents and office workers annually. The property sits on 12 acres and spans six blocks in the heart of downtown Atlanta and was acquired by O’Leary Partners, Inc. in 1999.
The panhandling “issue” existed then and still exists today, with more frequency and aggression.
Over time, aggressive panhandling has become a citywide issue, but it does seem as though the Five Points area is most plagued by the act.
The MARTA station is the nucleus of our transit system, flanked by one of the city’s most historic landmarks, city, state, county and federal offices, Georgia State University and residential buildings.
This area including Underground Atlanta is weighed down by things like quality-of-life issues, loitering, irresponsible property owners, unregulated vending and aggressive panhandling.
A number of laws, policies and procedures, task forces and awareness campaigns have been implemented over the years. Unfortunately, none have resulted in long-term effectiveness and, as a result, panhandling has become increasingly worse.
Responsible property owners are frustrated. Residents are frustrated. Law enforcement is frustrated.
At present there is no glue holding up the current panhandling ordinance in court, making it extremely hard to enforce any repercussions for participating in aggressive panhandling.
Underground Atlanta has its own policies and procedures in place that we enforce internally, but battling the issue is extremely challenging and creates additional expenses for the property: security, housekeeping and building maintenance.
Multiple real estate deals have fallen through based on these experiences and, depending on the economics of each deal, have resulted in loss of potential income from $10,000 to $1 million, which means less taxes collected and jobs created for the city, state and county.
We have issued approximately 350 criminal trespasses year-to-date and 50 to 60 percent of those were issued to aggressive panhandlers. That’s approximately one per day, and those are panhandlers who would not leave the property peacefully, many of whom are repeat offenders.
Earlier this year a group of Underground Atlanta business owners and a few allies in the district approached Mayor Kasim Reed on the subject.
In response, Mayor Reed spent an afternoon observing. As a result, a new task force was formed, spearheaded by Central Atlanta Progress (CAP), called Operation Best Foot Forward.
The group includes us at Underground Atlanta, a number of properties and business owners including Fairfield Inn & Suites, CAP staff members, the Atlanta Downtown Neighborhood Association, Atlanta Police Department, GSU police, MARTA police, the mayor’s office, as well as other invested stakeholders.
This task force is addressing a number of things: panhandling, quality-of-life issues, aesthetics and beautification, code enforcement and unified law enforcement.
We are pleased and optimistic the public safety committee chaired by Councilman Michael Bond, Mayor Reed and the City Council are taking a serious look at strengthening panhandling legislation and that this is a priority for more than those of us living through it daily.
We know things will not change overnight, but we are encouraged by the recent interest taken in this issue and glad to be heard that we need help.
The Five Points MARTA Station is the busiest in the system with 800,000 people passing through per month.
Therefore this entire area should be beautiful, clean, vibrant; a destination for our residents and visitors. An area that we are proud of.
Something has to be done.
William “Chick” Ciccaglione is general manager of Underground Atlanta.
By Joe Beasley
Panhandlers give downtown Atlanta a “black eye,” critics say.
They’re too pushy.
They frighten people when they beg.
They’re a threat to the city’s multibillion dollar convention and tourism industry because the very sight of beggars, the majority of whom are African-American men, appear to be threatening.
Panhandlers must be stopped to protect public safety, critics argue, even if it means locking them up in overcrowded jails for what some perceive as criminal behavior.
Atlanta has a long history of trying to criminalize homelessness that dates back to the early ’70s. Georgia State University professor Charles G. Steffen documents it in a study he published recently in the Journal of Social History called “The Corporate Campaign against Homelessness: Class Power and Urban Governance in Neoliberal Atlanta, 1973-1988.”
The most recent proposal, introduced by City Councilman Michael J. Bond, to jail aggressive panhandlers for a minimum of six months after a third conviction, is based on convoluted logic.
Criminalizing panhandling is like putting a Band-Aid on cancer.
It doesn’t heal the fact that we have a lot of desperate, needy people in Atlanta, particularly African-American men who have never really had a place in this country.
As descendants of slaves and sharecroppers, black men have been pushed off the land and into urban areas where they have never had a home.
But the city too busy to hate just doesn’t get it.
The formal leaders – Mayor Kasim Reed and Bond – and the informal, behind-the-scenes power brokers such as Central Atlanta Progress, the chamber of commerce, Coca-Cola and the Convention and Visitors Bureau, refuse to deal with the root causes of poverty and panhandling.
People are being marginalized in our society.
There are no jobs.
Social services are scarce and the needy continue to be locked out.
The systemic problem is racism and an unequal justice system where black males make up more than 50 percent of the jail and prison populations.
When they get out, they have a scarlet letter on their foreheads that makes them less likely to succeed in a capitalistic society.
Advocates for Bond’s proposal say they are targeting the “professional” beggar who is aggressive and who really wants the money for drugs or alcohol.
I’ve heard businessmen claim there are only about 60 who meet that criteria. If that’s the case, and Atlanta police know who they are, why not deal with them directly instead of adopting an ordinance that penalizes everyone?
I would be more than willing to work on such a project.
There are about 50,000 vacant homes and buildings in Atlanta.
The $78 a day it takes to keep a person in jail could be used to provide social services and housing for the homeless.
City leaders need to stop this habit of blaming the homeless, the real victims in this debate.
If something is damaged, you fix it.
We have a lot of damaged people in society who need to be repaired.
As long as we are in denial about that, the problem will not go away.
Joe Beasley is is vice chair of the Task Force for the Homeless, and Human Services director for Antioch Baptist Church North.
43 comments Add your comment
Bernie
September 7th, 2012
12:09 pm
Susan @ 12:02 pm – Thank-you!
and I too am in agreement with you 100% in your comment.
Susan
September 7th, 2012
12:02 pm
Bernie – Thanks for the historical perspective..it does help illustrate how we have arrived at this point.
As a woman in her 50’s, I too remember earlier days when the segregation in Atlanta was much more prominent. And as the white and black communities start to merge together into areas historically occupied primarily by a single race, there will always be adjustments.
Your description of L5P is as a historically African American area where panhandling was common, and in some ways even accepted (both by the African American community and – due to indifference – by the City of Atlanta). However, our city is becoming more homogenous, and the location of the MARTA station has escalated that process in the L5P area. If we are to progress towards a true sense of equality we must deal with issues not as a white issue or a black issue, but as an issue that affects everyone. And NO ONE (black or white) should be subjected to aggressive panhandling.
I want to clarify, I’m talking about the most aggressive forms of panhandling. It is this nature that makes it so aggregious, and makes downtown Atlanta less attractive to residents, visitors and employers alike. I can’t ascribe a specific number to aggressive panhandlers in Atlanta, but if it truly is 60 or so, should we let our city’s progress be held hostage by this small group?
We must find ways to make our city shine again if we have any hope of rising up, either socially or economically. We can’t make excuses for the agressive panhandlers – their behavior is wrong, and they’re hurting our city as a whole. Ironically, they are probably hurting themselves most of all…if our city doesn’t flourish, we have virtually no hope of having resources to help those in need.
Bernie
September 7th, 2012
11:18 am
MANGLER @ 10:50 am – I will share with you a quote from one of all time favorite movies. “THE TRUTH…..You cannot HANDLE The TRUTH” – Jack Nicholson, a few good men.
Part of the problem you are dealing with your internal consternation of this issue and that, sir I cannot help you with. only you are the Captain of that ship. My comments were not so much an opinion but as a laying out of historical facts surrounding a very serious and complex issue we are all dealing with. If it makes you uncomfortable, I suggest you step away and put on your BIG BOY pants and grow a pair. however this does not change or deny the complex community involvement that is based historical fact.
While many like you prefer to stick their heads in the ground like an OSTRICH. I prefer to face my challenges with my head up,eyes open and aware of the history and all that surrounds me. this is so that it will allow me to make the correct decision going forward and make the mistakes of the past . Unlike you who do not want to know with eyes closed hoping someone else will take care of the problem. Sir that is the true difference between you and I.
What suggestions or information do you bring to the table other than what is planned or being said? i will not hold my BREATH waiting for a response.
MANGLER
September 7th, 2012
10:50 am
Bernie, in each thread that you post comments on, there is one common idea that you bring up ad valorem, and that is you feel blacks are disenfranchised because they are black. It is the one issue that you cannot see past. You write eloquently and make good points, but each time you fall back on the “because we’re black” card, and then you typically shout out against anyone who tries to point that out or suggest that perhaps not everyone blames skin color today like you still do (as I’m sure you will yell at me in a minute). It unfortunately reduces the power of your message in similar ways that hate speech diminishes the quality of whatever it is being used for. Continue to ad to discussions, but man, come on, back off the race card and show us more of what you have in your deck.
Bernie
September 7th, 2012
10:35 am
Susan @ 8:08 am – While I do respect and appreciate your opinion and the well intention of it. What you are woefully unaware of and uninformed of is the complex issues that surrounds this very process in downtown ATLANTA.
The area we are speaking of where most of the most aggressive panhandling is done has been long considered historically as “THE NEGRO SIDE OF DOWNTOWN” an area where African Americans were allowed to shop in downtown Atlanta where they would not come contact with the average WHITE shopper of Atlanta. because lets face it…that is something ANY of them did not want to do and that attitude is still pervasive this very day…henceforth was the birth of the our most valued place Shopping at MALL! Where commerce is contained and reasonable control can be asserted if required or requested.
The Downtown five points area of Atlanta was not of any concern to the city of Atlanta and its white residents. they did not shop there or go there. Only White MALES worked close to that area. So whatever, happened there it was the Negroes PROBLEM and not theirs! City Officials were unconcerned until there was some type of ROBBERY of a white shop owner, then they would SPRING into ACTION! with overwhelming Force to find the offender. However, that did not occur to often or with great frequency.
Panhandling was the Norm. it has been allowed and winked at and accepted as a part of the NEGRO behavior by the White citizens of ATLANTA for decades. In fact many prided themselves into giving small amounts of change to a people who were always seem to BEG! for money. they Laughed at them and joked as if they were orphan children. A more Paternalistic view if you will. Many Negroes would sing,dance,perform acrobatic moves to gain attention, play instruments created out of nothing. Ever been to NEW ORLEANS?
So for you to have a better understanding this is the historical aspect of this long and ingrained and widely accepted behavior. Unfortunately it has gotten out of control and has become more of an ACT of Aggression,Demand and hostility. So while this may have become an issue with you. Atlanta has embraced and contributed to the continuance and allowance over the years. it has been part of the Southern Culture since the arrival of THE GOOD SHIP JESUS. you may disagree with me but you cannot avoid the disagreement with this City’s long SORDID history when it comes to the DARKER skinned citizens of ATLANTA.
Now what has contributed and exacerbated this issue was the placement location of the Five points station. unfortunately due to existing infrastructure of the rail tracks flowing East to West going through downtown that was the most logical place to put it.
Unfortunately that placement put this complex issue right in the middle of an already ongoing problem. Instead of a few thousand a week flowing through. we now have easily a million or more more going every week. A larger, wealthier and more affluent target for panhandling. These gentleman are only playing a numbers game.
roughly a small percentage will give everyday and ALL day. Its more akin to feeding the SHARKS! ( I hate using that analogy,please forgive me) however a point is to be made in simplistic terms.
I do hope this information shed some light for your understanding just how complex it is and it will take corporation from ALL of us to correct and changed a learned acceptable behavior. There is Blame to be placed on all sides to this problem, as you
should be able to see. Atlanta is my home…I am 55years old, I lived on the southside and went school on the eastside of Atlanta and rode the cities bus back and forth everyday starting in the first grade. Panhandling was an issue and a problem even then and in many ways just as aggressive but on a smaller level.
Bernie
September 7th, 2012
9:58 am
Aquagirl @ 7:08 am – before you make everyone aware of your uninformed IGNORANCE of African American history and its people. Next time learn your facts before you post! Historically African American women were treated better primarily because the had a “VAGINA”. this is something many southern white male favored in them more than anything in the world. This is why so many of US come in so many different colors and hues. When it came to “THEIR” bedroom they were equal opportunity employers. Affirmative action was not required there at ALL.
RAPE was the order of the DAY little girls,pre-teens,teenagers,young women,middle aged women and even the OLD! it was an official policy practiced by the majority of the slaveowners and whoever else happens to be around. It did not matter! However most would have said it was FORCIBLE RAPE of an entire group of women of color.
Now with that being said The Women were being held at a higher level of esteem. they were “MOST” times treated better. They received fewer beatings and lynchings. and at times even “”PAID” for THEIR SERVICES and not those of the kitchen.
Oh How do I WISH you were ONE of THEM! Your smug remark would be one of contrition,compassion and empathy for sure. None for which you have of anyone YOU perceived Less than YOU!
I will share a bit of wisdom with you.
“The SUN does NOT shine on a DOG’s BUTT, ALWAYS!”
have a NICE DAY!
Most Homeless are too Mentally Ill to Panhandle
September 7th, 2012
8:53 am
I seem to remember that during the Mayoral campaign, Kasim Reed made a big distinction between homeless persons and the aggressive panhandlers, saying that these were two different groups of people and that both situations need to be addressed. I am hoping that Mayor Reed will help both groups of people using two different strategies.
The homeless people in Atlanta have a lot of mental illness and it breaks my heart, but as someone else noted above, most of the panhandlers are savvy and aggressive – “reading” people and targeting them accordingly.
commoncents
September 7th, 2012
8:39 am
“There are about 50,000 vacant homes and buildings in Atlanta.
The $78 a day it takes to keep a person in jail could be used to provide social services and housing for the homeless”
Great message, Beasley… Don’t try to succeed, don’t try to work and change your life around, and eventually you’ll be given what you want.
P.S.- Becoming a public nuisance/eyesore/criminal will speed the process up.
The only thing you left out is that we should all be taxed more in order to pay for this.
Out by the Pond
September 7th, 2012
8:33 am
The white panhandler in East Cobb is certainly less aggressive than the panhandler in downtown Atlanta, but there needs and circumstances are similar, and I tart them all the same. I invite them to break bread with me and to have a conservation. I have never been refused by the panhandler, I have had problems getting seated or served. A little respect goes a long way in healing a persons soul.
Susan
September 7th, 2012
8:08 am
Bernie – I respectfully disagree…the problem is indeed very complex, but the SOLUTION is not. Look at other metropolitan areas that have also experinced problems with panhandlers. Which cities have been effective in reducing aggressive panhandling – those that implement more social programs, or those that crack down on the offenders? New York City comes to mind…
I don’t want to diminish the underlying problems. Poverty, mental illness, hopelesness and lack of opportunity DO, in fact, need our attention. But the question here is “what do we do about aggressive panhandling”, and in my opinion it is not accurate to say we can’t reduce that problem until the MAJOR issues are solved. And to say “African American men are victims, so leave them alone and let them continue to harass people” is simply unacceptable.