By Tom Sabulis
Skeptics may roll their eyes, but plans for a billion-dollar multimodal passenger terminal downtown – connecting commuter rail, MARTA, light-rail, streetcars and buses — are proceeding. The state department of transportation has allotted $12.2 million for a master design being produced by three firms — Cleveland-based Forest City Enterprises, Cousins Properties Inc. and Integral Group, LLC of Atlanta. Officials hope it spurs enough development interest to finance it. Jim Richardson, project manager for FIC, said the terminal could cost roughly $1.2 billion.
I talked recently with two key figures on the project: John Schuyler is a principal with the New York firm FXFOWLE, which helped design new multimodal terminals being built in Denver and San Francisco. Janet Romanic, of the Atlanta firm Cooper Carry, is deputy project manager. FXFOWLE is designing the station in association with Cooper Carry, the lead architecture firm. Fluid plans estimate groundbreaking in 2014, with an opening in 2017.
Q: How is progress moving on the terminal?
Romanic: It’s moving along surprisingly quickly. All the stakeholders – including GRTA, Cobb County transit, Gwinnett County — have been instrumental in helping us understand the needs of their operations and what this station needs to be to work for them. It’s going tremendously well.
Q: Compared with other cities, how does Atlanta shape up as a potential site for a super passenger terminal?
Schuyler: It’s easy to look at these other stations happening around the country and think they have some great advantage that this site in Atlanta does not. But from our point of view, the site in Atlanta has some significant advantages in the way the infrastructure is set up today. The [existing] tracks and the streets are at two different levels, which makes it much easier to provide for connectivity for the streets and neighborhoods…. In Atlanta while there are certainly constraints, there’s actually significantly more flexibility to come up with ideal configurations for the elements and optimize the functional relationships and the urban relationships for the station, to really tune it correctly.
Romanic: This is the site of the original rail terminal in Atlanta, when the city was founded. The original city grew up around that terminal point.
Schuyler: In many ways this location and this opportunity are what transportation development is all about — locating a transit-rich facility in the middle of an underdeveloped urban area that has what we believe are great bones, and having the energy of a transportation center act as a catalyst for revitalization, for increased development and higher density than what is normally found in auto-dependent communities.
Q: The defeat of the transportation sales tax referendum last month supposedly set back public transit. Didn’t that affect this project?
Romanic: This station is completely separate from that effort. It was never on the list [of transportation sales tax projects]. It’s not funded by the list. There are other projects [on the list] we might have liked to have seen gone forward, because they are in proximity or would have made getting to the station a little easier. But that alone will not make or break this project.
Q: What will make or break this project?
Romanic: The continued cooperation is key. We don’t see that as slowing down at this point. We only see it increasing. I think we’re in good shape right now.
Q: What’s the next step?
Romanic: My next step is going to be continuing to present the design options, the three alternatives, to the individual stakeholders, the group. We’ve already had a bus operators meeting attended by close to 20 people representing all the different bus factions — GRTA, Greyhound, Georgia Motor Coach Association. Everyone was there. We’ve released drawings to them, a little more detailed, to get their feedback, so we can take that and start using with FXFowle to look at where can enhance the design to better meet their needs.
Q: You believe it will get done?
Romanic: I would say absolutely we believe. The lead developer on this, Forest City, has 29 TOD (transit-oriented design) developments nationally under its belt. It has three more in construction right now. It has the track record to prove it.
25 comments Add your comment
Cutty
August 21st, 2012
9:33 am
So Chip, if Atlanta is a Third World country does the despair and poverty stop at 285? Take a ride down Buford Highway, S. Cobb Drive, or any neighborhood with a meth house in Cherokee then get back at me.
GaNative
August 21st, 2012
9:25 am
Chip, I hope being narrowminded and prejudging pretty much everyone takes some of the stress out of your life and that you sleep better at night. Prejudging people is certainly easier than actually thinking.
The State needs passenger rail. I would love to hop on a train at 5:00 pm on a Friday, grab a beer or three and get off in Savannah a few hours later for a weekend out of town. What does that make me Chip? Narcisstic? Go on, attach a bunch of labels to me.
As far as others discussing the price tag of this development, this project will include substantial office space, which increseas the price tag, but defrays a lot of the costs (as private developers will incur much of this expense).
Out by the Pond
August 21st, 2012
8:44 am
Bus service to Atlanta? Are we stepping back in time? I rode the bus from Marietta to Atlanta in the 60’s. It was $0.45 round trip and went straight down highway 41. Somebody better start talking about getting on a train and being able to go to Macon, Savannah, Augusta or Valdosta or this is just another dead horse.
Chip
August 21st, 2012
7:54 am
More pie-in-the-sky boondoggle nonsense. The only people who will benefit from this are (1) the usual well-connected politicians, cronies, and crooks who will put millions of dolllars of other people’s money in their off-shore accounts, and (2) deranged narcissistic urban liberal activists who will dance and preen in public over their social/environmental/moral superiority.
In the mean time, nothing significant will actually be accomplished in the silly provincial Third World joke of a city called Atlanta… except normal working people will once again watch piles of their tax dollars go up in smoke.
PATSy
August 21st, 2012
6:14 am
Pandoras box of terriorism has been opened. This “terminal” may be just that. One nutcase gets off a bus with a suitcase bomb and can kill hundreds and completely shut down all transportation in the city. Transportation has become a prime target around the world. Build it and they will come. Rather a gulch than a crater.
Dumb and Dumber
August 21st, 2012
12:08 am
Connecting to commuter rail? What are they smoking?
I think the old $80 million earmark was for the station AND the first leg of commuter rail to Lovejoy (on the way to Macon) – not sure how a glorified bus station meets that criteria. I cannot believe the feds will fund even a part of this Turkey now. Hopefully that $80 million can be rescinded (its been over 12 years) and used to pay down an itsy-bitsy part of the debt, not even a rounding error — but that would be better than this project now.
J. Howard Harding
August 21st, 2012
12:03 am
Why is intercity rail passenger service not included in this transportation terminal?
Bernie
August 20th, 2012
9:30 pm
its ABOUT TIME…….:) As anyone can see, T-SPLOST approval was not a prohibitive
factor as MAYOR REED and others, would have had the citizens believe through his many cheer leading activities.
Angus
August 20th, 2012
8:43 pm
“Multimodal passenger terminal” sure is a fancy name for a bus station.
SAWB
August 20th, 2012
7:27 pm
I still fail to see why this has to cost so much. Just pave a big parking lot for Cobb and Gwinnett Transit to drop off passengers and provide an escalator to move them to the MARTA station. Install a cover to keep them out of the rain and a restroom. I can only imagine where all the money is going to go, but I guess we can look at the illustrious Beltline project for a clue!