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In the wake of the failed transportation tax, Gov. Nathan Deal has declared the door slammed shut on rail expansion. Georgia’s likely future seems to be for roads, roads and more kinds of roads. A think tanker below talks up tolling arterials such as Roswell Road. The Sierra Club, which helped defeat the T-SPLOST and its rail component, doesn’t believe this is a good idea.
Commenting is open below Mark Woodall’s column.
By Robert Poole
When transportation experts compare Atlanta’s congestion problem with that of comparable large urban areas, one major difference leaps out of the data. Atlanta relies far more on its expressways to handle rush-hour traffic than comparable areas.
In Orlando, major roadways called “arterials” handle more traffic than expressways, and Denver’s arterials handle nearly as much as its expressways.
By contrast, Atlanta’s arterials handle only one-fourth as much traffic as its expressways. That’s a major reason why Atlanta’s expressways are among the nation’s most overloaded.
It’s probably way too late to build a modern grid of major arterials in Atlanta, but if some way could be found to make existing arterials like Roswell Road work better, those roads could reduce the burden placed on expressways, easing everyone’s daily commute.
The most obvious way to improve arterials is to widen them, but that is costly and can be politically contentious if landowners don’t wish to sell the needed right of way.
Another good idea is to synchronize traffic lights, so that motorists in the peak direction at rush hour get mostly green lights. Traffic engineers know that delays at intersections can be as big a limit on an arterial’s traffic capacity as the number of lanes.
What if it were possible to increase an arterial’s traffic capacity by more than would happen by adding a lane each way — but without having to widen it? Miami and Fort Myers, Fla., are both looking into this idea. It’s called converting an arterial into a “managed arterial.”
The basic idea is to give motorists a way to bypass traffic signals, by adding overpasses or underpasses to major arterials. Because those “grade separations” are costly to build, a small toll (e.g., 25 cents) would be charged, electronically, for each underpass a motorist used.
Those who didn’t want to pay would use the intersection just as they do today — to go straight or make a left turn or right turn.
It’s the same principle used around the country for express toll lanes on expressways, like the ones now working well on I-85 in Atlanta. You pay only the toll, using Peach Pass, if the value of the faster and more reliable trip is worth it to you.
Could the improvements that convert a regular arterial into a managed arterial pay for themselves? Preliminary studies in Florida cases suggest that as much as 75 percent of the cost of adding a set of overpasses or underpasses could be financed by the toll revenues, leaving the balance to come from conventional transportation revenues (mostly gas taxes).
By contrast, if the alternative of adding lanes each way were pursued, 100 percent of the cost would have to come from gas taxes.
Managed arterials offer metro Atlanta a way to relieve the area’s overburdened expressways, funded largely by voluntary payments by motorists. It’s an option transportation planners should seriously consider.
Robert Poole is director of transportation for the Reason Foundation, a libertarian think tank.
By Mark Woodall
Fresh off the disastrous rollout of “managed lanes” on I-85, the highway lobby is back with its latest innovation for Atlanta — “managed arterials,” the idea of transforming our familiar surface streets into a grid of junior expressways, allowing cars to zip along where now they must wait for lights at intersections.
This transformation would be accomplished by converting existing intersections into “grade-separated” facilities, with underpasses and overpasses that are to be built and maintained by electronic tolls on the drivers who use them. Similar to the I-85 managed lanes, two classes of drivers will result: those willing and able to pay a toll to bypass the intersection, and everyone else, who will sit in traffic on the “unmanaged” lanes that may in fact be worse than it was before.
Lost in this discussion is the fact that these intersections would become stark, industrialized environments once the projects are complete. Residential and commercial properties that have existed for decades could see their access severely curtailed. Pedestrian and bicycle accessibility, already poor on many of these corridors, will become even worse. The only redevelopment options will be intensely automobile-oriented uses, resulting in even more car trips — a perfect example of induced demand. How is this going to reduce congestion?
Time and again, Atlanta has fallen victim to the simplistic notion that the solution to traffic congestion is to build new roadway capacity. Many of our most congested roadways — Interstate 285, for instance, or the current 14-lane incarnation of the Downtown Connector — were originally pitched as “congestion-relief” projects. Such an approach provides short-term relief at best. Eventually, it only serves to perpetuate a development pattern that depends on cars, which quickly overwhelm the new capacity.
It is time for Atlanta to move beyond the idea that traffic congestion is a problem that must be “solved.” Yes, traffic is bad in Atlanta, but so is it in any economically vibrant region where people want to be. In fact, Atlanta doesn’t even rank in the top 10 most-congested metropolitan areas in the country. Traffic in many of the cities we worry about competing with is even worse.
So what are other successful places doing that we aren’t? The answer is not building “managed arterials.” Instead, they are building the multimodal transportation systems the 21st century requires. They are investing in proven options such as commuter and intercity rail. They are addressing issues of regional transportation governance and are creating efficient, integrated systems. They are making the most of their existing transit infrastructure. In other words, things Atlanta has been failing to do.
Make no mistake — Atlanta still has great potential. But we must stop repeating the mistakes of the past and look toward the future and the transportation system we want — one in which residents have choices and one that attracts the businesses and job seekers of today.
Fresh off the disastrous rollout of “managed lanes” on I-85, the highway lobby is back with its latest innovation for Atlanta – “managed arterials,” the idea of transforming our familiar surface streets into a grid of junior expressways, allowing cars to zip along where now they must wait for lights at intersections.
This transformation would be accomplished by converting existing intersections into “grade separated” facilities, with underpasses and overpasses that are to be built and maintained by electronic tolls on the drivers who use them. Similar to the I-85 managed lanes, two classes of drivers will result: those who are willing and able to pay a toll to bypass the intersection, and everyone else, who will sit in traffic on the “unmanaged” lanes that may in fact be worse than it was before.
Lost in this discussion is the fact that these intersections would become stark, industrialized environments once the projects are complete. Residential and commercial properties that have existed for decades could see their access severely curtailed. Pedestrian and bicycle accessibility, already poor on many of these corridors, will become even worse. The only redevelopment options will be intensely automobile-oriented uses, resulting in even more car trips – a perfect example of induced demand. How is this going to reduce congestion?
Time and again, Atlanta has fallen victim to the simplistic notion that the solution to traffic congestion is to build new roadway capacity. Many of our most congested roadways – Interstate 285, for instance, or the current 14-lane incarnation of the Downtown Connector – were originally pitched as “congestion relief” projects. Such an approach provides short-term relief at best. Eventually, it only serves to perpetuate a development pattern that depends on cars, which quickly overwhelm the new capacity.
It is time for Atlanta to move beyond the idea that traffic congestion is a problem that must be “solved.” Yes, traffic is bad in Atlanta, but so is it in any economically vibrant region where people want to be. In fact, Atlanta doesn’t even rank in the top 10 most congested metropolitan areas in the country. Traffic in many of the cities we worry about competing with is even worse.
So what are other successful places doing that we aren’t? The answer is not building “managed arterials.” Instead, they are building the multimodal transportation systems the 21st century requires. They are investing in proven options such as commuter and intercity rail. They are addressing issues of regional transportation governance and are creating efficient, integrated systems. They are making the most of their existing transit infrastructure. In other words, things Atlanta has been failing to do.
Make no mistake – Atlanta still has great potential. But we must stop repeating the mistakes of the past and look toward the future and the transportation system we want – one in which residents have choices and one that attracts the businesses and job seekers of today.
Mark Woodall is chairman of the Georgia chapter of the Sierra Club.
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Morning Reads for Wednesday, August 8 — Peach Pundit
August 8th, 2012
7:31 am
[...] The Reason Foundation and the Georgia Sierra Club talk toll roads. [...]
GB
August 8th, 2012
7:10 am
“They are investing in proven options such as commuter and intercity rail. ”
Does anyone really believe that this 19th century technology is the answer in the 21st?
Steve
August 7th, 2012
9:52 pm
Let alone that the roads and cross walks were last painted years ago, and the fact that the streets and interstates are filthy and garbage strewn. The DOT or city sprayed herbicide on Monroe intersection with I-85 five years ago – killing all the beautiful Magnolia trees. The dead trunks are still there. What a filthy city.
Steve
August 7th, 2012
9:47 pm
Have you ever driven on an arterial in Atlanta. Crumbling pavement, potholes, mis-timed lights. Now they want to toll them. It would be a complete cluster in this dysfunctional city. Can’t we just pave the roads – traffic would be so much better. And narrowing the turning radius – putting in granite curbs that trucks will destroy and parking spaces in place of traffic lanes (a la P’tree by High museum, Ponce…). I just can’t wait to leave this city. Go to Fort Lauderdale – nice wide, smooth, paved roads with lights that work – and public transit too!
Sally Flocks
August 7th, 2012
9:42 pm
When planning for the future, Georgia needs to think about more than traffic congestion. The cost of crashes to the region in medical costs, lost wages, and pain and suffering exceeds the cost of traffic congestion dramatically. In addition, research in Florida shows that each pair of through lanes (1 in each direction) added to a road doubles the risk of pedestrian crashes. It also triples the likelihood that the crashes will be fatal.
Data released yesterday by the National Highway Traffic Safety Association shows that the pedestrian death rate per 100,000 residents in Georgia is 25 percent higher than the national rate. In addition, the national rate has improved 19 percent at the same time the rate in Georgia didn’t improve. Data released yesterday also showed that pedestrians now account for 13.5 percent of all traffic fatalities in Georgia. When planning for the future’s transportation needs, the region needs to make the safety of all road users its top priority. Getting home alive is far more important than getting home a minute or two faster.
duke
August 7th, 2012
6:17 pm
Everything does not have to be in Atlanta. Encourage businesses to locate further out. But that goes against Agenda 21,the UN Agenda everybody is implementing without realizing it. The UN actually has a detailed map of the nation, designating various areas as wilderness, etc., with human development limited to closely defined, densely populated urban areas.
Elected governments cannot get voters to approve this, so the UN works through extra-governmental entities. Probably your county has a Land Use Planning Commission, an entity which appears nowhere in any constitution. And who divided Georgia into regions? Was there any public debate in your region? What is the form of government? Who are the governors? How are they selected? What sort of authority do they have under the Constitution, and what sort of accountablility? Nobody knows. In his Farewell Address, George Washington warned that extra-governmental entities are deadly to self-government, even when their operations seem benign and helpful. The only right way to do it is through constitutional officers, who must fight the messy battles to build political consensus among voters.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
August 7th, 2012
5:54 pm
I lived in Clearwater, Fl in the 80s-90s and they built a series of overpasses along a 5-6 mile stretch of US Hwy 19 (useless 19 as it is known by the locals) over the various other arteries intersecting it. Of course there was a traffic light at each end of these overpasses so all you ended up with was a 5 mile line of cars waiting for the light to change.
The problem with almost every exit from an interstate hwy is the traffic flow comes to a stop to soon. Instead of a traffic light at the end of the ramp, traffic needs to be able to move continuously along the new road for at least 1/4 mile or it just backs up onto the interstate. But what do most exits have? 3 lights in the first 1/8 of a mile.
Will the last Democrat in Georgia please turn off the lights?.....
August 7th, 2012
4:21 pm
hnbc
August 7th, 2012
4:06 pm
Governor Deal did not necessarily say that he wanted to build more roads per se, he just said that the I-285/GA 400 Interchange would be the state’s top transportation priority and that the overwhelming defeat of the T-SPLOST shut the door on further expansion of the rail network as it pertains to MARTA until there is a great amount of reform at MARTA, which, by the way, has a nearly $3 billion long-term operating deficit and is facing financial insolvency the possible end of its operations if something is not done sooner rather than later.
Will the last Democrat in Georgia please turn off the lights?.....
August 7th, 2012
4:14 pm
zeke
August 6th, 2012
8:50 pm
Road Scholar
August 7th, 2012
3:48 pm
The Northern Arc isn’t just dead, the Northern Arc is BEYOND DEAD.
Heck, to the Republican-dominated Georgia Legislature, the Northern Arc doesn’t even exist as many of their most powerful constituents in relatively-affluent Forsyth and Cherokee counties in suburban and exurban North Metro Atlanta helped lead the diverse coalition of liberal Intowners, environmentalists and conservative exurbanites that defeated the very unpopular road a decade ago.
Must of the right-of-way of the erstwhile proposed Northern Arc has since been filled-in with heavy amounts of high-end residential development.
The Georgia Department of Transportation even suggested that a new Northern Arc be built much farther out from I-285 than the original Northern Arc was proposed to be, but that idea went nowhere with an indifferent Republican-dominated Legislature that wanted no parts of it and came to power in part by campaigning heavily against the original Northern Arc.
hnbc
August 7th, 2012
4:06 pm
What is Deal’s problem with rail? Why does he want to build more and more roads?
Oh right, he gave his good buddy a job with the DOT … in planning. The only thing his buddy knows is build more roads!