20-somethings and T-SPLOST

Younger generation takes on transportation tax

Moderated by Tom Sabulis

Transportation weighs heavily on metro Atlantans’ quality of life, and their future. With Election Day on Tuesday, we reached out to the younger generation to provide their thoughts on the transportation special purpose local option sales tax. The proposed 1 percent levy would raise from $7.2 billion to $8.5 billion, depending on whether inflation is included, for transportation improvements in the 10-county area. Two 20-somethings write in favor of the referendum, and two write in opposition.

There are four short columns below. Commenting is open following them.

By Lawrence L. Gellerstedt IV

College students and young professional leaders of Atlanta, this is our time.

Officials from across the Atlanta region have aligned — something that doesn’t happen often — to provide us with what may be a once-in-a-decade opportunity to directly impact our quality of life.

We are staring at the single largest investment opportunity in the recent history of our state: a multibillion-dollar infrastructure proposal.

Vote “yes” on a 1-percent sales tax and more than $7 billion of investment will be made in the Atlanta area over the next 10 years. Pollsters say Tuesday’s vote will be close. Pundits question whether we’re ready to take such a big step. But the pollsters and pundits are not counting on us.

There are opposition leaders out there such as state Sen. Chip Rogers, who will tell you that the tax won’t fix traffic congestion.

I’ve worked on transportation issues for the past four years at the Metro Atlanta Chamber, and I know Rogers is wrong. The project list is a mix of transit and road improvements, and congestion on the improved roads is cut by an average of 24 percent.

More important is the economic impact of regional investment on this scale.

That’s the point Rogers seems to miss. An investment of $5 billion won us the Olympics, put us on the global map and likely played a large part in creating the jobs your parents had and your ability to find your first job.

Similar transportation investments in cities such Dallas and Denver have shown similar results.

Both those cities have surpassed Atlanta in the recruitment of young professionals, and I don’t think that’s a coincidence.

They, too, had debates about congestion relief but, at the end of the day, the result was economic development and job creation.

Lawrence L. Gellerstedt IV, 28, is a second-year MBA candidate at Emory University’s Goizueta Business School.

By Bill King

Some assail the T-SPLOST as an unnecessary tax and boondoggle. The Sierra Club opposes the plan due to its emphasis on road funding over transit projects, its treatment of MARTA and lack of regional governance structure.

Its analysis is largely correct. The T-SPLOST project list is far from perfect. But in a democratic system, few things are. When dealing with diverse groups and interests, compromise is necessary.

When trying to get some scraps of progressive policy through in a deeply conservative and anti-government state, compromise is even more necessary.

However, the Sierra Club’s analysis is off target in its assertion that there is a Plan B, which could include a restructured multimodal tax, a parking tax and other revenue mechanisms tied to travel.

While those may be more equitable and effective solutions, the idea that the Legislature will adopt them is hard to imagine.

Even a casual observer of Georgia politics can tell you that if voters reject the T-SPLOST, the Legislature will not come back with a more progressive, transit-heavy Plan B. It likely will view the vote as a rejection of what mass transit existed in the project list and steer away from it.

T-SPLOST foes argue that worthy projects will still find a way to be funded and built without the need for a tax, in a sort of market-demand argument.

Without a funding mechanism, though, and some level of coordination for the more ambitious regional projects, it is hard to see how the state will build and pay for many of these projects.

Rejecting the T-SPLOST would send a terrible sign to the rest of the country that metro Atlanta has no will to improve transportation.

Bill King, 27, an Atlanta native, is incoming co-editor of the Carolina Planning Journal and a graduate student in city and regional planning at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.

By Michael Harbin

Proponents of the T-SPLOST like to point to the next generation of Atlantans as overwhelmingly in favor of the sales tax.

They use Charlotte, Denver, Dallas and Portland as examples of why a mass transit system is so important to young people.

Atlanta is competing for young adults, and T-SPLOST proponents say we must implement mass transit as these cities have done.

Ironically, The Daily Beast, the Newsweek affiliate, researched the “25 Worst Cities to Be Young,” based on the highest unemployment and debt among young adults. Each of these pro-transit cities made the list; however, you won’t find Atlanta on this list. The AJC reported in March that according to a study by Arizona State University, our “transit-starved” city ranked second in job growth.

AJC PolitiFact tripped up paid T-SPLOST consultant Jeff Dickerson by ruling his claim that “according to a national survey, transit ‘ridership’ among people age 16 to 34 increased 40 percent between 2001 and 2009,” as only half true. The number using transit stayed nearly the same.

To wit: “The recession has played a role in reducing the miles driven in America, especially by young people. People who are unemployed or underemployed have difficulty affording cars, commute to work less frequently, if at all, and have less disposable income to spend.” (Transportation and the New Generation, U.S. PIRG Education Fund, April 2012).

Young adults are driving less because they have no choice, not because of a strong desire for transit.

I’m not opposed to finding valid options to improve Atlanta’s traffic mess. However, I am opposed to hiking taxes to raise $8 billion — half of which is for a mass transit system that proponents have failed to show will decrease traffic congestion, is self-sustainable or will provide ongoing jobs.

Michael Harbin, 25, a risk management adviser, lives in Fayetteville.

By Michael Williams

Listening to the architects of the legislative boondoggle known as the Transportation Investment Act, one would think that I and the rest of the millennial generation are the ones bending their arms back and demanding that this monstrosity be passed.

I hate to burst their bubble, but it doesn’t take a lifetime of experience to understand that our problem in Atlanta is simple: too many cars on too few arterial roads.

Why would we bet billions of new tax dollars that an unsustainable mass-transit system such as light rail will reduce cars on the road, when HOT lanes, carpool lanes, toll roads and climate initiatives have all failed?

Supporters claim that it provides metro Atlantans with relief from our traffic problems, even while the Atlanta Regional Commission admits that nothing on the project list will significantly reduce commute times. Opponents point out that 52 percent of the $8.5 billion T-SPLOST revenue will be spent on transit projects, at a time when MARTA is 80 percent subsidized by the taxpayer and deeply in debt, with a declining ridership of barely 5 percent of the population.

A wise Founding Father once wished that, if there was to be trouble, it would happen in his time, so that his children could have peace.

By the time this 10-year tax will allegedly end, I expect to have children of my own. I hope to raise them right here in metro Atlanta.

Instead of a debt-ridden transit system that requires more of their money every year, I hope I can hand down to them a Northern Arc, an outer Perimeter and other useful traffic options that will actually reduce traffic congestion and improve their lives and mine.

Instead of wasting our one shot to solve the traffic problem in metro Atlanta, let’s send the politicians back to the drawing board for two more years and demand real traffic solutions for the future.

Michael Williams, 26, of Marietta is a board member of the Georgia Tea Party.


58 comments Add your comment

I see

July 26th, 2012
10:03 pm

“Building new MARTA lines WILL help get people off the roads, myself included. Just put them where people live and work!”
You are right KM. This thing isn’t about that, though. It is about anything but a good alternative to cars on the road and it is sickening to see these contractors pushing so hard for its approval. I am glad you voted no as I did and I hope you get your friends to vote no, too. Here’s to a better plan.

Clark

July 26th, 2012
9:01 pm

I misspoke, MARTA isn’t subsidized by the State of Georgia at all, only by the two counties it operates in.

Clark

July 26th, 2012
8:49 pm

What transit system in this country is self-supporting? That’s right, NONE! MARTA’s subsidies are actually below the median for transit systems in this country, meaning MARTA does better than approximately half of the transit systems in this country. I’d like to see Mr. Williams come up with a plan to have roads completely subsidize themselves. $10 toll on every highway? 50% tax on gasoline? And actually MARTA isn’t subsidized, it’s the only transit system in this country that isn’t financially supported by the state despite a requirement by the state on how to spend its money. The T-SPLOST will provide $1.3 Billion to MARTA for the express goal of service expansion: the I-20 East and Clifton corridor projects, and provides significant money for planning transit expansion along I-75, GA-400, and I-85.

WTF

July 26th, 2012
8:44 pm

An outer perimeter? Are you serious? Look at the first one! It will only cause more sprawl and fill up with traffic again… then what? Should we build a 3rd one??

And what 25-26 year old wants to live in Fayetteville or Marietta anyways?

John

July 26th, 2012
8:06 pm

The list of projects was finalized by politicians. Please tell me what the mayor of Atlanta knows about transportation planning. Nothing. This is good old fashioned Georgia pork barrel politics.

No one denies that there is a problem. However, this is not the fix. Throw it back to a different group: a group or transportation engineers, both from the private and public sector. The committee should include only engineers with proven experience in strategic solutions. The solution isn’t a politician’s pet interchange, sidewalk or rail line. It’s a proven plan by professionals that know what they’re doing with little or no outside influence.

We’re in this mess because the legislature mis-funded the metro area for decades. Get them (and all elected officials) out of the process. Get the special interests such as the highway contractors out of it.

After the GA 400 and HOT lane debacles, no one trusts the legislators to do the right thing or the SRTA for that matter.

Simple question: How many SPLOTS in your region have gone away? They are self-perpetuation, and they are foaming at the mouth to get our money.

Vote No!

Chris Sanchez

July 26th, 2012
6:55 pm

The sky is falling, the sky is falling! To hear TSPLOST supporters you would think every mile of every road in Georgia was falling apart and it is impossible to get around. That is simply a silly notion on its face. In fact, Georgia is ranked #3 in infrastructure & transportation, #1 in the nation in workforce which rated states based on the education level of their workforce, as well as the numbers of available workers, considers union membership and also looks at the relative success of each state’s worker training programs in placing their participants in jobs. This is a study completed by CNBC, not exactly known as a bastion of conservative thought!

Of course that does not mean we do not have traffic congestion in the metro Atlanta area. We do and we ought to invest in projects that will relieve congestion and maintain our very high infrastructure & transportation ranking. The current project list does not and over half of the spending it is not intended to do so.

Economic development is legitimate and if supporters want to raise that goal then they should do so. That is a debate that many of us welcome. However, voting against the TSPLOST, in part because of the +50% of the spending in the current project list going to transit, is no more racist than the chicken voting against Col. Sanders. If people are skeptical of MARTA it is simply because of the poor management of MARTA that has been on display for decades. No doubt many people feel this is likely to continue for the foreseeable future.

The bottom line is this: TSPLOST will be voted down July 31st not because there is no need for investing in transportation infrastructure. It will fail because of the lack of trust in politicians, the deceptive manner in which economic development was poorly and inappropriately sold as the means for reducing congestion, and because the project list will not actually reduce traffic congestion. Strong-arm tactics are not working either! So after the dust settles and the politicians change their saliva-soaked bibs, maybe we can develop a project list that actually addresses traffic congestion. When that happens, I have no doubt that the support necessary to pass the funding mechanism will turn up at the polls.

Steve Reynolds

July 26th, 2012
6:35 pm

T-SPLOST tax. I understand its a 10 year tax. Now lets think about this. Taxes for roads, bridges, rail system, buses, runways. Just about any thing you can think of. What happens after 10 years? Where does the funding come from to maintain everything T-SPLOST paid for during it 10 year’s. Buses, Rail systems, roads, bridges where does the money come from for maintenance? Guess what there will be another TAX for upkeep and maintenance.

One last observation. Our famous radio host Clark Howard is in support of T-SPLOST, He held a 1 hour radio show in full support.

Clark has always been for saving money. Rumor has it Clark Howard is a paid for spokesman for T-SPLOST. Shame on you Clark if you accepted money for your endorsement. During the phone in callers not ONE person was in agreement with you.

Vote NO on the T-SPLOST referendum.

Old Farmer

July 26th, 2012
6:32 pm

I voted against the referendum. My sales tax is already 8%. As I’ve said before, I am a strong supporter of mass transit, but the projects outlined in the T-SPLOST don’t seem to be the most relevant mass transit issues facing our area.

As we get closer to July 31st, I have also come to resent the strong arm tactics that are being used by the supporters of T-SPLOST. “There is no Plan B” sounds like a threat to me. Politicians and their well connected business friends always have a Plan B. So I will wait for Plan B and it will have to be a really good plan for me to vote to increase my sales tax to 9%.

KM

July 26th, 2012
6:06 pm

I am a 20-something and I’m completely willing to pay an additional 1% tax (possibly more) to help Atlanta stay competitive. My problem is that the proposed list contains many pet projects (Beltline anyone?) that will do nothing to help traffic problems at the regional level. I would have voted yes if the projects had focused entirely on MARTA rail construction (not bus!) and highway construction (such as an outer loop and interchange/bottleneck improvements). Building new MARTA lines WILL help get people off the roads, myself included. Just put them where people live and work!

WeNeedAlternatives

July 26th, 2012
5:37 pm

Interesting comments.
Could SOMEONE that is a proponent of building new roads please show me how they exist without taxpayer subsidies? Anybody? …. I didn’t think so. Not without obscene high tolls.

So quit bashing transit – it least it gives us options that hardly exist now. You’ll be glad you had that during the next oil embargo or hurricane.

And as for wanting more roads – during the Eisenhower administration, when the president was pushing the interstate system, there was huge opposition. Who was right on that investment?

Transportation is the life blood of a healthy economy – so say those pesky economic experts that must not really know anything….