4/12: ‘Stand your ground’ laws

Moderated by Rick Badie

Shoot. Don’t retreat.

“Stand your ground” laws in Georgia and other states allow people to use deadly force if they believe their lives are in danger.

Supporters say such self-defense statutes empower potential victims to protect themselves.

Opponents deem them bad policies that grant people a license to kill. Today’s guest columnists weigh in.

What do you think?

30 comments Add your comment

skipper

April 12th, 2012
8:45 am

Guess what……..don’t try to carjack, rob, or assault anybody and chances are you won’t have to worry about it.

Kale

April 12th, 2012
8:41 am

All the gun nuts notwithstanding, these Stand Your Ground laws are not necessary. It has always been legal to defend yourself. All the Stand Your Ground laws do is legalize murder.

Nanjing03

April 12th, 2012
8:16 am

The “stand you ground” provision is essential for the continued use of our very successful concealed carry reforms. Those shooting incidents can still be investigated — just like those of us who were in law enforcement after an incident of use-of-force. That is only standard procedure. The people who are against SYG are actually against “concealed carry” as a whole, and by atacking SYG, they think that they can return society back to the days of high crime and draconian gun control. The American people will never let that happen. We’ve already been there. Gun control does not work — concealed carry reforms do.

What a joke...

April 12th, 2012
8:03 am

Josh Horwitz is completely stretching the truth and hiding all of the information… His numbers he uses from 2005 to 2009 are correct, but he is misrepresenting them. Why did he not use 2006??? Because the number of deaths went down about 25%. Not to mention that 60 of the 105 deaths caused were actual police officers defending themselves against criminals. See below. These are the numbers of justifiable deaths. The first column is the year, second column are justifiable deaths by civilians, the third column is justifiable deaths by POLICE OFFICERS, and the fourth is the total deaths by both civilians and police.

Year – Justifiable Homicide by Civilian – Justifiable Homicide by Police – Total
2000 – 12 – 20 – 32
2001 – 12 – 21 – 33
2002 – 12 – 23 – 35
2003 – 16 – 16 – 32
2004 – 8 – 23 – 31
2005 – 18 – 25 – 43
2006 – 12 – 21 – 33
2007 – 42 – 60 – 102
2008 – 41 – 52 – 93
2009 – 45 – 60 – 105
2010 – 40 – 56 – 96

It is one thing to give everyone all of the information and then let them form their own opinion. But to cloud up the facts and say that the whole law is a “disaster” is total garbage. I wonder why he didn’t represent the 2009 numbers as 105 people saved their own life? I am not saying that this is always the case, but to me, you would think that someone who writes up this stuff ought to at least consider the home invasions and car jackings where the victim actually made it out alive because of the ability to stand up for themselves and do something to protect themselves and their loved ones.

Misty Fyed

April 12th, 2012
7:37 am

Oh Jack….haven’t you figured it out yet. Liberals would never let that happen. They need people with guns to protect them. They may stab you in the back afterwards but when things get bad, they beg for help like anyone else. Liberals love to exercise their freedoms, but always fail to recognize that its people with guns who obtained those rights and protect them. Liberals need us conservatives because without us they’d be living in a place like Cuba. Deep down inside, they know.

Jack

April 12th, 2012
7:31 am

Maybe it’s time to segregate ourselves into liberal and conservative neighborhoods. Each neighborhood can be marked notifying the public on whether the homeowners have weapons and stand your ground laws or not. That way the thugs know which neighborhoods to avoid. Problem solved, no more controversial shootings.

juddist

April 12th, 2012
6:45 am

I find it weird that people think it is fine to stand your ground after being attack but do not think it is okay to stand your ground after being stalked like prey.

seabeau

April 12th, 2012
6:43 am

Every human being has in inherrant right of self defence! All laws are passed to provide for the public good or to right a wrong. The botton line is than guns sales and up and violent crime is down! If only innocent people were being shot there would have been no drop in the crime rates!! Criminals need to be afraid,very afraid!

Roy Wood

April 12th, 2012
12:41 am

Dont Know who is right and who is wrong but it seems to depent on person or race what happened to the ex GI that got killed about three months ago under this stand and defend.The shooter was black and the victim was white not much publicity at all Texas dawg

SAWB

April 12th, 2012
12:31 am

Strange that the same groups that want to deny the Constitutional right to carry are the same people that never want to punish someone who uses a gun in the commission of a crime. Remember Troy Davis who violated numerous laws when he used a gun to kill a Police Officer and the uproar to free him. There is a segment of society that does not want to take responsibility for their actions, but always attempts to blame someone or something else for their shortcomings. They feel like the choice someone makes to commit a crime is not the issue, but the inanimate object they use in the crime is somehow to blame.

The bottom line here is personal responsibility and holding people accountable for their actions. If someone chooses to exercise their freedom to carry a weapon that is fine, but if they use that gun to violate the law and someone else’s freedom they should be punished. All “stand your ground” does is codify what has been the accepted legal practice all along in Georgia it does not somehow grant a “license to kill” as some have erroneously stated.