12/2: Are Voter ID laws unfair?

Moderated by Tom Sabulis
With a presidential election less than a year away, a nationwide protest backed by the NAACP will take place Dec. 10 to condemn voter ID laws being enacted by Republican-led states, including Georgia.

Congressman Hank Johnson calls these laws an attack on our rights.

Secretary of State Brian Kemp argues they will prevent election fraud.

What do you think?

25 comments Add your comment

Obozonomics

December 1st, 2011
9:15 pm

If you are too lazy and or stupid to get an ID to vote then you don’t deserve to vote. If you are so foolish to argue for these losers then remember, birds of a feather… well you know the rest…

Guam

December 1st, 2011
9:51 pm

Doesn’t Hank Johnson have more pressing matters to worry about, like Guam capsizing?

MM

December 1st, 2011
11:51 pm

It doesn’t really matter what I, or anyone, thinks about IDs preventing election fraud. The data at both the national and state levels over many election cycles is that proven incidents of fraud are miniscule and definitely no threat to election outcomes. (Not so for Bush v. Gore which ended in two unnecessary wars and a meltdown of the economy in addition to exposing what was for some a shocking lack of democratic process.) Mail-in voting has proven to have a much higher error rate but there’s no controversy there because of the conservative demographic of most of those voters. This is not opinion but the actual fact of the matter. The clear objective of all this fuss about fraud is to suppress voter turnout among those deemed by some as being “unqualified” to vote.

When I was young in south Georgia many years ago the scheme was literacy testing. My parents patiently explained to me how testing was necessary to assure a “good” outcome at the polls. Now,the same type of people are doing the same thing via another method. Old story.

Charles

December 2nd, 2011
3:55 am

The last 3 comments are my sentiments exactly especially from “Gaum” about Cong. Hank Johnson: he makes Cong. Maxine Waters look brilliant.

Bob

December 2nd, 2011
4:41 am

How does anyone know if voter fraud is a problem if ID’s are not checked?
That’s similar to saying that driving without a license is not a problem because the police do not require drivers to show their ID’s at traffic stops.

BitterEXdemocrackkk

December 2nd, 2011
6:40 am

Hank Johnson is a total lieberal idiot who is about to fall off the edge of reality…

Voter FRAUD DOES HAPPEN!

In NC right now, nearly 80% of the citizen voters WANT VOTER ID required but the century plus domination of the oppressive controlling NC democrackkks make such demands happen. Such is the democrackkk control in NC that even valid reports of voter fraud go UNinvestigated.
NC is one of very few states that do not require valid ID to vote.
Keep your voter ID laws strong!

BitterEXdemocrackkk

December 2nd, 2011
6:42 am

correction: democrackkk CONTROL in NC keeps voter fraud from being
exposed, prosecuted.

dcb

December 2nd, 2011
7:05 am

I have no problem with ID being required to exercise my U.S. citizen voting rights. In fact I’m dismayed to think that anyone would. Discrimination – garbage. With as many illegal immigrants living in our state and country as we have a failure to ask for proof of citizenship would be the folly. For those worried that those w/o gov’t issued proof would be the victims – let them spend their worry and protesting time arranging for those “victims” to gain that ID. I was able to get such ID for my wife w/o any trouble or cost.

USMC

December 2nd, 2011
7:05 am

For Liberals to suggest that African-Americans are somehow unable to simply show a photo I.D. is RACIST and ignorant.

I wonder if all of these same poor souls who complain about showing a photo I.D. to vote would have such a problem if they were asked to show a photo I.D. to CASH A WELFARE CHECK?

That’s what I thought. :-)

Alton C. Powell

December 2nd, 2011
7:10 am

Anyone opposing the show ID when voting
must have something to hide!!

nelson howard

December 2nd, 2011
7:13 am

I cannot imagine what is unfair about having voter ID. It would go along ways towards preventing BALLOT BOX STUFFING and having voters voting more than once.
1. the county will offer them free
2. photo drivers license acceptable.
3. employee photo id
4 valid US passport
5 US military ID
6 tribal photo ID
If someone has none of the above Georgia will offer 1 free.upon showing evidence they are registered voter, name and address.
There is absolutely, positively no discrimination there. The elderly, students, and the NAACP can be acommodated..
This is democracy in action ,

Jacksmum

December 2nd, 2011
7:33 am

Seems a bit like the Blue Law repeals of late…most want Voter ID enacted, a few vocal extremists are throwing stones to keep their way in place. Mmmmmm, wonder why they are so interested in keeping this process blind?

Rick in Grayson

December 2nd, 2011
7:42 am

What’s the problem? To vote in elections for state and national officials, the voter MUST be a US citizen! How else do we enforce this requirement?

A local electric bill will not meet this requirement. Hank Johnson should spend his time making sure that Guam is not tipping over. He certainly does not know how to enforce the requirements the US has for electing state and national officials.

Mad Max

December 2nd, 2011
7:55 am

I’ve never understood why this is a controversy. It seems that we as a country that has admittedly allowed over 12 million undocumented aliens into our midst, should take some measures to ensure that we are not allowing this group to influence our government through the ballot box. I don’t buy the claim that it is discriminatory as it is not that difficult to get an ID. I also think that we should require a photocopy of the ID for absentee voting.

Alan

December 2nd, 2011
8:08 am

Let’s see with ID you can’t fly, cash a check, get a library card,go to the hospital on and on.

Jack

December 2nd, 2011
8:49 am

I show my ID when I vote. No big deal. If anyone is able to vote, they’re able to get some sort of acceptable ID.

s

December 2nd, 2011
8:51 am

Hank Johnson is a moron who believes an island could tip over so I could care less what his opinion is on anything. I agree with Mr. Kemp on this one. There is NOTHING wrong with requiring ID for anything. They came up with state issued ID cards years ago for those people who don’t drive so there is NO excuse for not having ID!

#occupy my desk...

December 2nd, 2011
9:35 am

Yeah I grew up in Chicago and the fraud was comical. More people voted than lived in a district, etc. They would literally give out cigs and vodka, and bus people in from projects with prefilled ballots. Can’t make this stuff up.

Tag

December 2nd, 2011
10:07 am

Isn’t this country liberal enough to allow anyone from any country to vote in our elections?
If not let’s get on the bandwagon I want the Saudi’s, the Chinese, the Mexicans and everyone else to give us help and direct this county. Away with voter registration and being 18 and an American Citizen.

Lt Dan

December 2nd, 2011
12:48 pm

Let’s take it a step further: along with an approved photo ID, you should bring a copy of your previous year’s W-2 to prove you paid Federal Income Tax. Only those who paid FIC should be allowed to vote in a Federal Election since your elected representation is spending your tax money.

Lt Dan

December 2nd, 2011
12:51 pm

Sorry, FIT instead of FIC.

Pompano

December 2nd, 2011
1:19 pm

No wonder the NAACP has become such a joke. They are actually advocating on behalf of a non-existant constituency on this issue. I doubt very seriously that you could actually find a law-abiding citizen without a valid ID who is civic minded enough to participate in an election.

Jamiqua

December 2nd, 2011
1:27 pm

Yeah, this is one of those issues where identifying the supporters (NAACP, Hank Johnson etal) pretty much ends the discussion right there. Hard to believe though that even Hank is stupid enough to argue that we should just permit anyone with a pulse who shows up at a polling place to vote.

RASTUDD

December 2nd, 2011
2:44 pm

I’m a little confused. The annual James Brown turkey give away in Augusta hosted by Rev. Al Sharpton (since the God Fathers passing) required an ID for people to get a free turkey. So is a free turkey more important than the vote?

Native Atlantan

December 2nd, 2011
6:26 pm

I’d like the AJC to get the records that support Brian Kemp’s claim that every year his office and the Ga Election Board ” investigate and penalize hundreds of people guilty of election fraud.” That claim has never been shown to be accurate. As for needing a photo ID to fly, to cash a check, to drive a car, etc., many American citizens don’t have the means for these middle-class activities. Requiring a photo ID is nothing but new Jim Crow.