Atlanta Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff, 2010-2011 (Part 2)

Comprehensive Analysis of Dimitroff’s Moves, 2010-2011

Dimitroff Over the Years (AJC)

After a general manager has been with a team for several years, the best analysis that can be done is to look at every move over their tenure and see if it was great, good, bad, or terrible. Obviously, the GM’s that have more hits than misses, like Schneider, Ozzie Newsome, Jerry Reese, and Ted Thompson before him, give their teamsC the best chance to hoist the Lombardi Trophy. Dimitroff has constructed a team that has made the playoffs 4 out of 6 years, held the #1 NFC seed twice, and hosted an NFC Title Game. Those teams also boast a dreadful 1-4 overall playoff record. The GM and front office is only part of the equation, for the good and bad, but without a strong front office, it’s next to impossible to win the whole thing. Same goes for coaching staff and committed owner.

Veteran Cuts / Free Agent Non-resigns

Marty Booker, Verron Haynes, Aaron Stecker, Tony Gilbert, Mike Schneck, Joe Zelenka, Tye Hill

The Cage Rolls Through the Off-season (Arno)

Nothing to see here. Booker was brought in and had minimal impact when Harry Douglas went down in 2009. Standard stuff. Guess this should be counted as good since there was no issue releasing them and they didn’t shine elsewhere. Dimitroff gave up a 7th round pick for Hill, which was already deemed as a bad move in previous post. Analysis – Good

Free Agent Re-signings

Chris Redman

2 years / $5.6 million

Also pretty reasonable contract. Redman actually had to sub in for Ryan in 2009 and went 0-2. He was only 32 at the time, knew the system, and fit the standard pretty well for a veteran quarterback. Eventually, the Falcons would need to develop a young QB, an issue they would definitely have the next few years. Analysis – Good

Brian Williams

1 year / $1.635 million

As mentioned in the previous post, Williams was a good signing in 2009 and played pretty well, but was injured in the 5th game. Williams only made one start, but manned the nickel back position most of the year. He was a decent part of a defense that finished 5th in scoring defense and helped the Falcons to the #1 NFC seed. His true impact wasn’t felt until he was injured late in the season right before the playoffs. His replacement? Chris Owens vs. the Packers. Enough said. Analysis – Good

Dunta Robinson – CB – Age: 28

6 years / $57 million / $22.5 mill guaranteed

Bad, bad move (AJC)

It’s hard to argue that there’s a worse move by Dimitroff during his tenure. Some would argue that Peria Jerry would be it, but draft picks are more of a crapshoot than free agency. Taking kids out of college is way different than spending money on proven (or unproven) commodities. This contract made Robinson one of the highest paid cornerbacks in the NFL, and there was nothing he’d done to shown that he was an elite corner. Good yes, elite no. The size of the contract was unbelievable. Robinson pulled down only 4 interceptions and 25 passes defensed in 3 years. He was solid, but he didn’t receive a contract to be solid. If there was a designation worse than terrible available, that would be it. Analysis – Terrible

Brent Grimes

1 year / Exclusive Rights Free Agent Contract

Grimes had his breakout year in 2009 with 6 interceptions and ranked as one of the best overall CB’s in the NFL. The Falcons signed him to an exclusive rights free agent deal, which is essentially paying them pennies for finding them as an undrafted free agent. This is common and made sense at the time, but it would start the unbelievably terrible mishandling of the entire Grimes saga. It will be discussed later more in-depth, but essentially Grimes follows up his breakout year with a trip to the Pro Bowl. The Falcons give him a measly 1 year / $2.16 million contract after his Pro Bowl season. Then they franchise tag him for the tune of $10.6 million and he gets hurt in week one. Then a year after they pay him over $10 million for one game, they won’t pay him $5.5 million as a “make-good” contract after his injury. And then he goes to the Pro Bowl. Down the road will reek of terrible, but the exclusive rights deal was a good move at the time. Analysis – Good

Trades

Chris Houston – CB – Age: 26

6th Round Pick to Detroit

Pulled plug too soon? (AJC)

Everyone was elated when this trade took place. But let’s look at what transpired before and since. Houston definitely wasn’t living up to standard after he had a down year in 2009 and was replaced by rookie Chris Owens, either due to injury or poor play. The Falcons go sign Dunta Robinson to one of the biggest contracts of any corner in the league. They only get a 6th round pick for Houston, a former 2nd round pick in 2007. Robinson and Chris Owens go on to rank 82nd and 101st out of 109 total cornerbacks in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus. Meanwhile, Houston ranks as the 23rd best CB in the NFL for the Detroit Lions with 5 interceptions including 2 returned for TD’s, positive grades in overall performance and coverage, and would start every game but 10 for the Lions over the next 4 years. The Falcons would end up cutting Dunta Robinson, not re-signing Brent Grimes or Chris Owens, and draft not one, but two cornerbacks with their first two picks in 2013. While Houston would never be considered Darrell Revis or Richard Sherman, he at least was consistent for the Lions, which has been the exact opposite of the CB situation in Atlanta since. They would use their 6th round pick on Shann Schillinger. Coaching and development rear it’s ugly head once again. They gave Jamaal Anderson 3 years and Peria Jerry 5 years, but they pulled the plug on Houston after two. Analysis – Bad

2010 Draft

Sean Weatherspoon – OLB – 1st Round Pick

Spoon Not Living Up (AJC)

Spoon immediately became a fan favorite due to his energy level, athleticism, and the potential he brought to the offense. Unfortunately, injuries and overall poor play has marred this otherwise hopeful draft pick. He’s missed 12 games the last three seasons due to injury and only started 5 games as a rookie (and that’s on one of the weaker defenses in the NFL). He was drafted to be a playmaking linebacker (and Curtis Lofton was let go because he supposedly wasn’t) and he’s only had one year of living up to his draft status. His second year in Atlanta was his “breakout year,” at least that’s what fans thought. He started all 16 games, had 86 tackles, 4 sacks, and 8 passes defensed. Since then, it’s mediocre and worse. Everyone was hoping to see the next Clay Matthews, but that didn’t happen. He had an OK year in 2012 (PFF ranked him 27th out of 43 OLB’s in 4-3 defense) and was lost in 7th game for the year, but he was ranked as the 30th best LB out of 35 before his injury. Linebackers taken in the first round are supposed to difference makers and Weatherspoon, sadly, has been anything but. He obviously has plenty of time to turn it around and surely some of it’s on coaching and development, but so far it’s been a bad pick. To make matters worse, future Pro Bowlers Jermaine Gresham, Demaryius Thomas, and Dez Bryant were all available. Analysis – Bad

Corey Peters – DT – 3rd Round Pick

Taking Peters in the 3rd round while not having a 2nd round pick from the Tony Gonzalez trade was a possible signal that he didn’t get what he hoped for in 2009 1st round pick Peria Jerry. Some were shocked and worried that Dimitroff reached on taking Peters in the 3rd round. Peters has been a very stable force in the middle since he’s been here. While not quite being dominant, Peters has turned in some very good seasons since being a Falcon and one of the few players they can actually build around on the defensive line. Peters had career high numbers last year, pulling down 46 tackles and 5 sacks before tearing his achilles heel in the next to last game of th season. He’s a free agent this year, but it’s hard to believe the Falcons won’t keep him. With another stud DT next to him, Peters could form a good duo. Overall, it’s been one of Dimitroff’s few good picks on the lines over the years, even though Eric Decker, Navorro Bowman, and some guy named Jimmy Graham were available. Analysis – Good

Mike Johnson – OL – 3rd Round Pick

What Happened with Johnson? (AJC)

This one is mind-numbing. Johnson was one of the most successful linemen coming out in the 2010 draft class. He set a record for most career starts in the history of Alabama football, not a small feat. He helped lead the Crimson Tide to a National Championship and paved the way for Mark Ingram to win the Heisman Trophy. Who knows what happened when he got to Atlanta. He couldn’t beat out traditional right tackle Garrett Reynolds for the right guard spot two years in a row. He was supposedly penciled in for right tackle this season before a tough injury in training camp. It’s hard to believe he didn’t have talent playing for Nick Saban that long, but he’s been a ghost since being in Atlanta. This one likely falls on Coach Smith and his staff’s pitiful player development system, but the net result is bad. Analysis – Bad

Joe Hawley – OL – 4th Round Pick

This pick was odd from the beginning. The idea evidently was drafting Hawley to tutor under Todd McClure, but the idea that the Falcons were so good on the OL that they could be drafting backups for the future is beyond laughable now. In typical Mike Smith fashion, Hawley was drafted as a center but of course moved to right guard. He stepped in admirably in the 2011 trainwreck OL season, bringing a touch of stability to the right guard spot. He then lost an “open compeition” the next season to Garrett Reynolds. Dimitroff would go on to draft another center in 2012 in Peter Konz. What logic does this make? He took over for Konz in 2013 and did better than Konz, sadly that’s not saying very much. The fact that fans even have to question whether he’ll be re-signed should designate that this was yet another one of Dimitroff’s poor OL picks. Analysis – Bad

Dominique Franks – CB – 5th Round Pick

Taking the Oklahoma cornerback seemed like a good pick at the time, but that has turned out to be false. He’s technically still hanging around the roster, but the fact that he was actually cut in 2012 and only came back due to another player’s injury tells you all you need to know. Right now, he’s probably listed as the #4 CB behind Desmond Trufant, Robert Alford, and Robert McClain, but it’s hard to imagine him working himself up the chart to get legitimate playing time. He’s also been a major disappointment as a punt returner as well. Analysis – Bad

Kerry Meier – WR – 5th Round Pick

Meier an Injury Bust (AJC)

Meier was extremely productive in college and felt like a decent pickup at the time. The Falcons were hoping they were getting the next Brian Finneran, but that turned out to not be the case as his career was marred by injuries. In fact, he never caught one NFL pass in his entire career and only played 12 games on special teams his entire time in Atlanta. Obviously, injuries can’t be helped, but Meier came in with a pretty extensive injury history when drafted. Analysis – Bad

Shann Schillinger – S – 6th Round Pick

This is as painful and ironic as it gets. The Falcons having an embarrassing inability to get the quarterback have a chance to take Greg Hardy with this pick. So of course they go with taking a backup safety and someone to play special teams. They already had DeCoud coming off a solid season at free safety and William Moore at strong safety. Schillinger was never going to crack the starting lineup, even in the best of scenarios. This is where Dimitroff’s hubris in drafting becomes apparent. He feels that later round picks are just special teamers. While that’s often true, the Panthers would disagree with that statement (Hardy = Pro Bowl). Analysis – Bad

2011

Veteran Cuts / Non-resigns

Erik Coleman

2 Years of 4 Year, $10 million contract

Coleman was a good signing when he first took over in Atlanta. He was never expected to be the next Troy Polamalu, but his veteran presence and solid tackling was a welcomed addition to a team looking to return to respectability after the 2007 season. Coleman helped lead the Falcons to the playoffs in 2008 and and 2009, but the drafting of DeCoud at free safety and Moore at strong safety made Coleman expendable. Analysis – Good

Brian Finneran – WR

BFinn a Great Falcons (AJC)

One of the best Falcons ever, Finneran was a fan favorite and could always be counted on for the big catch. But his time had simply come to an end. When he was waived, he was 35, only started 1 game, and had 19 catches in 2010. The fact that he retired soon after confirmed this was the right move. Analysis – Good

Brian Williams – CB

Williams played a good role with the Falcons in 2010 and was a very solid nickel back. But his injury right before the playoffs definitely didn’t help when the Packers threw for like 800 yards in the Debacle in the Dome. He was too injury prone and 31 years of age. He would only play 4 more games in his career in New York. Analysis – Good

Jerious Norwood – RB

The lightning fast running back’s time had simply come to an end. Injuries marred what could’ve been a stellar career with his unbelievable speed. He only appeared in two games for the Falcons in 2010 and would only play one more season with the Rams before retiring. Analysis – Good

Michael Jenkins – WR

Jenkins was solid over the years, but you don’t want your first round draft picks to be “solid.” As soon as the Julio Jones trade was done, everyone knew this was a matter of time. In theory, they could have tried to incorporate Jenkins with Jones and Roddy White, but financially, it just didn’t make sense. Analysis – Good

Jamaal Anderson – DE

One of the worst draft picks in Falcons history finally came to it’s merciless end. To their credit, they tried everything they could do get Anderson to turn it around, but it just wasn’t meant to be. Analysis – Good

Harvey Dahl – RG

Dahl a Colossal Mistake (AJC)

The mother of all errors. It’s true that it would have been difficult to keep all three of their impending free agent offensive linemen (Clabo, Blalock, Dahl) in one off-season, but when they want to, they always find a way. The kept Justin Blalock and Tyson Clabo, and let Dahl walk to St. Louis on a relatively modest contract (4 years / $16 million). At a very minimum, they could have kept him over one of the other OL. The Falcons offensive line has never been the same since. He was obviously the heartbeat of the Falcons OL and it collapsed since. For three years since, the right guard spot has been a plane crash. Analysis – Terrible

Michael Koenen – P

After slapping the franchise tag on Koenen a year earlier, they made a wise decision in letting him go. The Bucs signed him to a 6 year, $19.5 million contract. After drafting Matt Bosher, they haven’t missed a beat. Analysis – Good

Free Agent Re-signings

Coy Wire – OLB

2 years – $1.64 million

Wire filled in nicely in 2008 and some in 2009 and was a valuable backup linebacker for the Falcons. He also was a special teams captains, so this was a very low risk signing for backup purposes. But the problem is that he was released in a matter of months. Like Trey Lewis below, this is tough to call a bad signing, but they were promptly released that same year without playing another snap. Analysis – Bad

Trey Lewis – DT

2 years – $1.29 million

Lewis had showed a lot of potential in 2007 and was one of the few big-bodied DT’s they had on their roster. Unfortunately, Lewis just couldn’t avoid the constant injury bug. He was waived for a final time in September. It’s hard to signal this one as bad, but he wouldn’t play one more down under that contract. Analysis – Bad

Will Svitek – OT

2 years – $3 million

Letting Svitek Go Silly (AJC)

Svitek ended up being a very good signing. Originally, he was signed just for backup purposes, but he ended up starting 10 games due to various injuries and did an overall good job. The fact that he wasn’t re-signed in 2013 was in itself a poor choice, as he was quickly snatched up by New England. Analysis – Good

Matt Bryant – K

4 years / $10.5 million

Some were a little concerned that Bryant getting such a big contract at such a high age might mirror what happened with Jason Elam, but he’s been money the last three years with no sign of stopping. At some point the Falcons will have to find a new kicker, but Bryant’s going good now. Analysis – Good

Justin Blalock – LG

6 years / $38 million / $16 million guaranteed

Looking at the contract right now, then Blalock wouldn’t seem to be worth what he’s making and is due to be a $7.6 million cap hit if no restructuring is done. But if you look at the entire scope of the deal, his play overall, and the fact that he’s been the only stable force on the Falcons OL, than it’s a good move. Analysis – Good

Tyson Clabo – RT

5 years / $25 million

This move is a really tough one to decide on. On one hand, this is a pretty moderate contract for a former Pro Bowl right tackle that was only 30 years old at the time. Pro Football had him having a slightly below average year last year and very good in 2012. Despite Pro Football Focus’ rating, many fans saw him as being among the main culprits for Matt Ryan getting sacked and hit so much in 2012. The Falcons did get a few decent years from Clabo, but the fact that they drafted Lamar Holmes a year later and cut Clabo a year after that has to deem this one a clunker. Analysis – Bad

Stephen Nicholas – OLB

5 years / $17.5 million

Nicholas Now Gone (AJC)

The former South Florida product showed enough potential to warrant this contract and the thought was that he would make a great and and athletic pairing with Sean Weatherspoon as outside linebackers, but that never came to fruition. He had a well below average year in 2012 and a really bad showing in both playoff games vs. the Seahawks and 49ers. 2013 saw it get even worse for Nicholas, getting benched for undrafted free agent rookie Joplo Bartu. Even though the contract was very reasonable, the fact that he was cut 3 years after signing and really only started and played two of them deems it another miss. Analysis – Bad

Jason Snelling – RB

3 years / $4 million

Dimitroff played it perfectly on this one and must’ve known what the market would look like for Snelling. He allowed him to test the market and ended up signing Snelling to a very, very moderate contract and some would say an underpaying one. Snelling isn’t the lead back needed and necessary, but he’s been one of the most dependable Falcons for some time. Analysis – Good

Eric Weems – WR / KR / PR

1 year / $1.2 million

Dimitroff made a good move on this one. Weems was coming off a trip to the Pro Bowl as a punt and kick returner. He ended up signing a similar contract with the Bears, except for longer. The Falcons have yet to find as good a returner since. Analysis – Good

Free Agency

Ray Edwards – DE

5 years / $27.5 million / $11 million guaranteed

Edwards an Epic Mistake (AJC)

Easily one of the worst moves of his entire reign. In defense of Dimitroff a little, Edwards was considered one of the best available defensive ends in free agency at the time, he let the market completely settle, and he at least attempted to upgrade the defensive end position. However, it turned out to be an unmitigated disaster. He pulled down a whopping 3.5 sacks in his entire time with the team and was such an issue in the locker room that they pulled the plug on him halfway in 2012. He even has created somewhat of a stereotype for the free agency market. Are they legitimate talents on their own, or are they only a product of great players around them? Edwards most surely was the latter with Kevin and Pat Williams at DT and Jared Allen on the other side. Like many, the intent was good, but the reality was a nightmare. Analysis – Terrible.

2011 Draft

Julio Jones – WR – 1st Round Pick

“The Trade” has been analyzed for years, but the bottom line is that the Falcons got an All-Pro talent in the end. The issue, of course, is that the Falcons gave up quite a lot for one player, a wide receiver nonetheless. Whether or not the Falcons could have used those picks to bolster their lines will never be known. He had his breakout year in 2012 when he went to the Pro Bowl, but he also was only 10 yards shy of 1,000 yards receiving as a rookie. Before he was hurt, he had almost 600 yards receiving in only 5 games. Also, his longest receiving touchdowns each year were for 80, 81, and 80 respectively. The only reason this isn’t great is due to the draft picks and the his early injuries. Analysis – Good

Akeem Dent – MLB – 3rd Round Pick

This continues a disturbing trend for Dimitroff in the 3rd round. By every single account, he way over reaches on picking Dent. Almost every single draft site had Dent going no earlier than the 5th or 6th round. Furthermore, the Falcons already had a tackling machine in Curtis Lofton. Looking back now, it’s insane to think that Dimitroff felt as though our roster was in such good shape that taking a 3rd round pick was good only for developmental purposes. It doesn’t help that Dent was benched halfway in the season in favor of undrafted free agent Paul Worrilow. Analysis – Bad

Jacquizz Rodgers – RB – 5th Round Pick

Most knew that getting a running back one way or another was coming with Turner reaching a quickly descending decline. Rodgers was insanely productive in college despite not having top end speed. He’s been a nice complementary piece in the backfield and had a best of almost 800 total yards in 2012, capping with an amazing run vs. Seattle in the playoffs, trucking All-Pro safety Earl Thomas. The issue is how to get a good complementary back to him. He and Steven Jackson are a little too much alike and Antone Smith’s speed has got to see the field more in 2014, even though Mike Smith is the head coach. Overall a good piece moving forward. Analysis – Good

Matt Bosher – P – 6th Round Pick

Panned at first, but Gotten Good (AJC)

This pick was destroyed when it first came up. Why would you spend a draft pick on a punter? Well, it’s turned out to be one of the better picks in Dimitroff’s time. Bosher started off a little shaky, but has become a very reliable and productive punter for the Falcons. Analysis – Good

Andrew Jackson – OG

Like the Matthews pick after it, taking Andrew Jackson as a possible guard or tackle to develop was a good idea. Unfortunately, this one didn’t turn out as good as taking Cliff Matthews, as Jackson only made the roster for one year and didn’t do much. It’s hard to designate a 7th round pick as bad, but he’s no longer around. Analysis – Bad

Cliff Matthews – DE – 7th Round Pick

Always needing help on the two lines, Matthews was a pretty good pick with a lot of upside. He’s started to move around on the defensive line and logged 152 snaps in 2013. He looks to only be a rotational player at this point, but this was a pretty good pick, especially with his versatility. Analysis – Good

Very Subjective Total

Great – 0

Good – 21 (58%)

Bad – 13 (36%)

Terrible – 2 (6%)

Again, these are all VERY subjective takes on Dimitroff’s moves and are designed more to create conversations and debate more than a final word on said moves. The goal is to try and compare how the deal looked at the time and how it ended up resulting.

531 comments Add your comment

Unca' Bob

February 23rd, 2014
9:33 pm

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RoddyRules

February 23rd, 2014
10:11 pm

Wow, even I didn’t realize how freaking BAD Dimitroff has been. No wonder he has hired half the unemployed ex-GM’s in the NFL to help his sorry ass. If Dimitroff is not suffering from a severe lack of confidence at this point then he has to be lying to himself. I mean the proof is absolutely, 100%, in-yo-face, UNDENIABLE. Dimitroff has been a train wreck since Matt Ryan!!!!

John Waynesworld

February 23rd, 2014
10:50 pm

Great job, D3.

So many disappointments. On the positive side, I think Thomas should consider himself fortunate that there is such a wealth of talent in this upcoming draft.

I will give Dimitroff his due, he’s helped make Atlanta an attractive destination for Free Agents. I’m glad that’s not a problem anymore. We all remember the old days.

SOB

February 23rd, 2014
11:07 pm

Seen that movie The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly? A new one is coming out about the Falcons’s brass. Starting from top to bottom. Owner, Gm and head coach. The Worse, the Worser, and the Worsest of all time in the history of NFL football

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 23rd, 2014
11:16 pm

D3 – How depressing! Odds say that just by random luck it is time for TD to have a good draft. Not one decent OL / DL player in this draft or FA.

AB has more patience than I would…. 8-8 or better in 2014 or out the door.

D3 – good work.

waynester

February 23rd, 2014
11:17 pm

While predominately “good”(58%) the sad lack of players in the “great” category(0%) is particularly galling, embarrassing and infuriating considering the stars we passed on by panicking about our “Needs” rather than drafting “BPA” and building around them.
I still want to see us pursue trading back and TD may have tipped his hand when he talked about everybody in the Top 10 being near the same value. In fact, I think he’s talking about the team at #10, DET. I’ts possible that Sammy Watkins will still be on the board at #6, but doubtful…however, Mike Evans from TX A&M probably will be there at #6 but gone by #10. They could sit tight and hope Marqis Lee from USC could develop if they miss out on the top 2 WRs but I think they want to nab one of the top 2 guys. That would pose a dilemma for the Lions who need to pair someone opposite megatron to take advantage of favorable coverages on that side. Trading with us lets them insure they get their man. It would be a sweet deal, too, with the trade values heavily skewed in our favor. OT Lewan should still be there at #10 plus the Top DT and top FS. Best of all is that extra 2nd near the top of the round….

JB Falcon

February 23rd, 2014
11:41 pm

I haven’t read the new post yet because I was watching the 6 hr delayed Daytona 500, the Super Bowl of NASCAR. The race started at 1 PM but had a rain delay so they showed last year’s 500. Now I have watched the Daytona 1000.
Some folks say that NASCAR is not a team sport but the driver is the QB and he could not win without a team behind him. Dale Jr. smoked ‘em.
Elvis wanted me to relay to Rocky, “How did Danica do?”

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Wings

February 24th, 2014
7:07 am

D3 the mother of all blog leaders!!!

Wings

February 24th, 2014
7:15 am

As I was reading the new post this morning, I noticed this on the right side of the screen next to the Bird Cage logo. Two links to other articles in the AJC and one being the Cage. I put the link to the interesting story.

More from the AJC

Atlanta Falcons Fan Blog: The Bird Cage

Woman having sex at Waffle House uses burger for sandal

http://blogs.ajc.com/news-to-me/2013/11/08/woman-having-sex-at-waffle-house-uses-burger-for-sandal/

Wings

February 24th, 2014
7:30 am

Comments from the Smoking Gun:

If the burger fits, you must acquit

For a thousand time, here is how the song goes, “I blew out my flip flops, stepped on a pop tart.” No where does it say cheese burger!

Arno

February 24th, 2014
8:23 am

Part one of D3s stats on Dimitroff decisions looks like this with these filters:

Offense good or great decisions: 65%
Defense good or great decisions: 41%
o-line and d-line (incl TE) good or great decisions: 53%

Part two of D3s stats looks like this (no great decisions):

Offense good decisions: 63%
Defense good decisions: 46%
o-line and d-line (incl DE) good decisions: 36%

Definitely a trajectory here.

reallygroovy

February 24th, 2014
8:27 am

Thomas dimitroff better be glad DONALD TRUMP or vince McMahon is not his boss or he would have been fired 2 years ago I mean to let clay Matthews , and ray malaluga , and last year now get honey badger from lsu who is a kick returner and all , and not resigning eric weems , Thomas dimitroff must not know the frustration we endure as falcon fans watching this crappy team since 1966 and have never won a super bowl in 48 years well with his bone head deals , they will never win one sign, bill parcells, dan reeves, bill polian to help build roster period and fire THE TOWN CLOWN DIMITROFF.

reallygroovy

February 24th, 2014
8:49 am

WHILE YOU ARE AT IT FIRE MIKE SMITH IF THEY DO NOT WIN THIS YEAR AND HIRE BILL COWER , OR JIMMY JOHNSON, OR BILL PARCELLS, HELL JOHN MADDEN WOULD WORK IF HE CAN WALK THE SIDELINE , AND FIRE THE IDIOTIC OFFENSIVE COORINATOR WHY ARE YOU PICKING UP PEOPLE FROM JACKSONVILLE I MEAN DAMN , WHY DON,T YOU GET COACHES FROM GREEN BAY, OLD COACHES LIKE MIKE HOLMGEN , STEVE MARRIUCCHI AS A CCORINATOR I MEAN DIRK KOTTER NO WONDER I GET UPSET AT BELOW MEDIOCRITY I MEAN YOU GO 4=-12 AND THE COACH AND GM GETS EXTENTIONS ARE YOU KIDDING ME LIKE THE BRAVES YOU HAVENT BEEN TO A WORLD SERIES SINCE 1995 AND YOU GIVE YR GM AND COACH EXTENTIONS ARE YOU SERIOUS LIKE THE FALCONS I WILL GIVE YOU FACT UNTIL OWNERSHIP MAKES UP ITS MIND THAT THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY AND GOING NOWERE YOU FIRE COACHES , GM,S MANAGERS , AND DO RESEARCH AND GET MANAGEMENT THATS WORTH A CRAP , ARTHUR BLANK I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU AT ANY HOME DEPOT IF YOU HAVE A STORE MANAGER THAT GOES AND THROWS THE DAYS DEPOSIT IN THE TRASH CAN ARE YOU GOING TO FIRE THE PERSON OR GIVE IT A RAISE DIMITROFF HAS THROWN AWAY MILLIONS OF YOUR DOLLARS , BY SIGNING THE WORST FREE AGENTS ON THE MARKET YOU GET OUT THERE AND MARCH 11TH GET THE GOOD FREE AGENTS NOT SIT BACK AND WATCH EVERYBODY ELSE GET GOOD AND YOU DO NOTHING THEN AT END OF FREE AGENT PERIOD LETS SAVE MONEY LETS GET THIS GUY HE MIGHT HELP US . COME ON DIMITROFF GET WITH THE PROGRAM ALL THE FANS IN GEORGIA ESPECIALLY US OLDER GUYS ALL WE LIVE FOR IS TO SEE FALCONS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THATS IT , SAW BRAVES WIN 1 WORLD SERIES , SO FALCONS ITS YOUR TURN

reallygroovy

February 24th, 2014
8:55 am

the falcons are toast with the 11th toughest schedule and you have to go 6 thousand miles to play dominik sue , and Detroit in England , I hope they have good hospitals over there because with this offensive line matt ryan may have to give his body to science .

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
8:58 am

Combine bench press:

Jadeveon Clowney 21
Jake Matthews 24
Anthony Barr 15
Aaron Donald 35
Ra’ Shede Hageman 32
Kony Ealy 22
Timmy Jernigan 27
Stephon Tuitt 31
Michael Sam 17

Jake Matthews was stronger than Jadeveon Clowney!
Red flag? Anthony Barr – only 15 reps at 6′5″ 255 lbs – When I was his age I could do 15 and I as 5′11 1/2 ” 187 lbs.

John Waynesworld

February 24th, 2014
9:07 am

Hilarious, Wings…what a attractive link that must be to click, hard to resist!

Let’s sound the Jerick McKinnon trumpet!!

2nd in Broad jump
3rd in Vertical
6th in the 40 yard dash
8th in the Bench Press

The Marietta product played both offense and defense (RB, QB, WR, KR) and the scouts are seriously considering evaluating him as a Cornerback.

How’s that for being ‘cross-trained’, Coach Smith?

John Waynesworld

February 24th, 2014
9:08 am

Oops, left off Safety.

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
9:19 am

Interesting:

40 yard dash

Taylor Lewan 4.87 (6′7″ 307 lbs)
Jake Matthews 4.91 (6′5″ 305 lbs)
Greg Robinson 4.92 (6′5″ 332 lbs)

*** Robinson did not run a 4.8 as some reported – still at 332 lbs 4.92 is amazing – all three were under 5.00 – remarkable.

Xavier Su’a-Filo 5.04 40
David Yankey 5.5 40 disappointing

Arthur Lynch (TE) 4.8 40 (6′5″ 258 lbs) 28 reps on bench

paddy o

February 24th, 2014
9:34 am

regarding Buffet: I think it says stepped on a pop top; in the 70’s, soda cans had a ring you would pull off, and the entire opening to the soda can would be removed from the can. most folks littered the ground with them, and they would cut your foot if stepped on right.

paddy o

February 24th, 2014
9:37 am

I’d be happy with either Mathews or robinson at #6. if we trade back, we are dumb schleps; we should have had the #2 pick.

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
9:50 am

Mike Mayock “It would be hard for me to take Jadeveon Clowney over Khalil Mack^.(NFL network)

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
10:04 am

The latest Drafttek.com MOCK has Jadeveon Clowney going to the Raiders @ #5 and Jake Matthews going to the Falcons @ #6, Greg Robinson to the Rams @ #7 (trade up) & Taylor Lewan @ # 19 to the Dolphins.

BleacherReport.com (2/23/14) Jadeveon Clowney & Jake Matthews are both available for the Falcons at #6 …

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
10:09 am

Jake Matthews (OT)
Greg Robinson (OT)
Taylor Lewan (OT)
Jadeveon Clowney (DE)
Khalil Mack (OLB)

I have added Mack to the list of possible #1’s for the Falcons. I have been hearing rumblings about the possible trade of Weatherspoon – Mack would be his replacement.

snacktastic

February 24th, 2014
10:20 am

Fair analysis as always, D3. I hate to have to see “bad” come after Spoon’s name, but the truth hurts.

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
10:37 am

Jadeveon Clowney’s “strength” is hi speed – not his bench – 21 reps which was two less than Miami’s punter!

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
10:48 am

Here they are – 40 dash times for the DL!

Ryan Carrethers (DT) 5.44
Jadeveon Clowney (DE) 4.47 (wow – give credit where it’s due)
Scott Crichton (DE) 4.78
Aaron Donald (DT) 4.65 (wow again)
Kony Ealy (DE) 4.84
Ra’ Shede Hageman (DT) 4.97
Jackson Jeffcoat (DE) 4.60
Timmy Jernigan (DT) 4.93
Anthony Johnson (DT) 5.25
DaQuan Jones (DT) 5.28

** these are early results – they are not done yet.

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
10:58 am

Dri Archer (WR) 4.26 40 fastest time of the combine – Falcons next KR / PR ?

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
11:00 am

Dri Archer (WR) 4.26 40 and did 20 reps in the bench – just one short of Clowney even though he’s only 5′7″ 175 lbs.

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
11:01 am

J C Copeland (FB) 4.93 40 and 23 reps on bench

John Waynesworld

February 24th, 2014
11:22 am

Flo-Ri-Duh, I like that Draftek mock this time around. They gave it a good shake up following some Combine scores.

Interesting, no matter how many times they change up their mocks they always give us the South Carolina DT Kelcy Quarles in the 4th round. I’ll take him though.

I also like Copeland alot in the field drills. The big boy can catch the ball and run, too.

The Combine numbers of the RB McKinnon from Ga Southern (4.41 40 / 32 reps) are starting to be noticed nationally. Not on Draftek though, not even in their database while others at least have him as at least a 6th or 7th round choice. My guess is at the latest he goes in the 5th.

waynester

February 24th, 2014
11:50 am

Aaron Donald continues to impress with strength, speed, agility, attitude. The Man has massive legs/lower body strength and his short stature gives him incredible leverage.
paddy o
have to disagree on trading back…an extra pick or two in the 2nd or even 3rd could pay huge dividends this year with all the young guys in the draft. We could wind up with a Taylor Lewan AND an Aaron Donald out of doing it instead of just one player taken at #6….merely a difference in draft philosophy. If we can’t trade back, then either Robinson or Matthews would be my choice, too.

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
11:51 am

JWW – That Draftek.com MOCK – not bad.

http://www.thedawgbone.com – If you want to see the biggest RB of all time go to this site feb 24th titled “Biggest RB of 2014 the UGA whiffed On”. This “kid” is 6′5″ 400+ lb and actually made a spin move in the film. Better go low on him but don’t let him fall on you!

paddy o

February 24th, 2014
11:53 am

I don’t rate Hawley actually bad; less than good?

Grits Blitz

February 24th, 2014
11:56 am

D3 – Brother, can’t you do anything but TELL THE TRUTH? I believe your posts just keep getting better, but how? Nothing to argue or add…the facts are the facts.

Flo & John WW – PLEASE convince TD to draft Copeland. (Said earlier he should fit HC’s desire to cross-dress everyone! He could play RB, FB, TE, or even OG, if needed.) Draft him and Archer, unleash Antoine Smith, and S. Jackson & I do believe we’ll have an effective upgrade in the running game…ALL contingent, however, on 1st priority of upgrading O-Line.
(I know it’s probably just me, but I shy away from placing our starters in KR/PR situations, unless we’ve got someone in WPP who would be = or better as a replacement.)

Grits Blitz

February 24th, 2014
12:04 pm

Flo – “Big Tone” makes “Frig Perry” look like a Twiggy in comparison! Talk about a load…Red Cross must be on the scene at all times!

Hope you’re right on “rumblings” about trading Spoon. Been for this move for a long time.

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
12:05 pm

Gritz Blitz (11:56 am 2/24/14) – I’m working TD over full time! JC Copeland (FB) is on the list as is Dre’ Archer (WR) or Dexter McCluster (Free Agent) to return kicks.

(11:51 am) Go to this site for a laugh… 400 lb RB!

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
12:06 pm

Gritz Blitz – and you thought JC Copeland was big… Big Tone’s arse weighs more than him!

Grits Blitz

February 24th, 2014
12:26 pm

He’s a full dump truck, for sure. What if Smitty tried to cross-dress him to clog the middle at DT? If I was a QB and saw his lumbering herd coming my way, I’d skeet all over myself and just hand him the ball, if he promised not to pancake and fall on me…

ws

February 24th, 2014
12:27 pm

Greeting Cagers,
Watching combine Sunday player from Georgia Southern J. McKinnon. I do not know what round he would be drafted in. Would like too see falcons get him. 225 =32 reps, ran a 4.35 forty,215 lbs. They have in running back class, but I think GSU used him last year at quarterback. he rushed for 120 yards against UF without them throwing a pass. On NFL channel they said scouts said he could play corner, safety, receiver or running back. I do not think he would go high in draft. He would probably out play Dewiff at safety. He is as strong as the 300 lineman and stronger than Clowney
Add all of comments here I read everyday. I’m not going to say any names, I might leave out someone. But all of you do a good job. I love reading the cage.
I think the AJC wants to charge for there beat writers. What a joke!!! More information here than the AJC beat ever had, again Thanks for your time writing.

ws

February 24th, 2014
12:31 pm

John Wayne,
sorry I did not read post before I commented. I basely cover same player you did

paddy o

February 24th, 2014
12:41 pm

I miss weems

paddy o

February 24th, 2014
12:41 pm

how about a “neutral” score?

ws

February 24th, 2014
12:44 pm

Flo,
Artie has way more patients than I. I would have canned MS when BVG and MM were shipped. And Hair-GEl does not impove, he would be gone after this draft. I would put SP over falcons. A least he will make some good draft choices.
I will type this in caps. UNDER MIKE SMITH THE FALCONS WILL NEVER GO FARTHER THAN PLAYOFFS. HE DOES NOT HAVE IT TOO TAKE A TEAM TOO SUPERBOWL!!!

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
12:49 pm

Now they say Clowney ran a 4.53 not a 4.43 …..

Flo-Ri-Duh

February 24th, 2014
12:51 pm

ws (12:44 pm 2/24/14) – Expect Falcons to be 8-8 in 2014. No playoff game until 2015 -16.

Grits Blitz

February 24th, 2014
12:53 pm

ws – Totally agree with you, sir, about The Cage being where it’s at for all things Falcon.
PT Barnum would be proud of the nads on the AJC beat writers to charge for their opinions.
Cagers from all backgrounds bring the real news and … probably do far more research before posting than paid counterparts at AJC.
Don’t hesitate to bring your views on anyone, even if presented previously by others. Those choosing to can learn more from different slants/takes on players/situations from different Cagers. You definitely belong here, my brother.

Ken Strickland

February 24th, 2014
1:25 pm

PADDYO-You can bet that 2nd team All Pro OC AMack would have struggled to perform at the same level if he had to play next to the mess we had at RG & RT. Hawley will be our starting OC, but this yr TD & Co will make certain he’ll have an asset next to him at RG rather than a liability. As experienced as TMcClure was, & RT TClabo made the Pro Bowl, but both struggled noticeably with the loss of RG HDahl.

If the absence of a quality RG can cause a vet OC & RT to struggle noticeably, certainly you can’t expect a rookie or inexperienced 2nd yr OT to fair any better with the same RG issues, with the same issues at OC added to the mix.

If we’ve actually made the decision to keep OSI, it’s doubtful that we’ll trade up for Clowney. Now if he drops to #6 we’ll jump at him. Add Mack & his pass rushing skills to a frontline of DEs OSI(7.5 sacks) & Massaquoi(4 sacks), DTs Peters(5 sacks) & Joseph(5-6 sacks), & you can have a solid pass rush.

We’ll have enough high draft picks(at least 11), as well as enough cap space, to fix all of our OFF & DEF issues. Can the same be said for any of the other NFC South teams?

John Waynesworld

February 24th, 2014
2:22 pm

ws, no worries, sometimes impressive news needs to be repeated! I agree that McKinnon could give DeCouldn’t some instant competition at the Safety position.

Hamad Meander

February 24th, 2014
3:14 pm

JWW – I’m on the Jerick McKinnon train! I think he’s NFL potential is greatest at running back – I understand his ability to change direction is of the charts.

How about you Clowney lovers taking a look at a poor man’s Clowney: Alabama’s Adrian Hubbard (from Norcross High School). He’s 6′6″ 257 lbs, and ran an unofficial 4.53 vs. 4.47 for Clowney. His collegiate stats aren’t much different: 33 total tackles vs. 40, 3 sacks (same as Clowney). He played linebacker vs. defensive end. If Clowney had been grouped with the linebackers, he wouldn’t have stood out as much. There were two linebackers that ran unofficial 4.41 40s.

Is Clowney strong enough to play 100% defensive end in the NFL? How is he going to shed a 315 lbs tackle to make a stop on a running back? These are legitimate questions to ask.