Atlanta Falcons Scapegoat OL and DL Coaches

Any More Blame to Throw Around?

Anyone but Us Two (AJC)

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Now that the season of misery has come to an end, it’s time to officially move on to the off-season. Thank goodness for that. Long ago when owner Arthur Blank and Thomas Dimitroff said that Mike Smith was going nowhere, it was assumed that some on the Falcons staff would be scapegoated and be relieved of their duties. No major changes to make at the top, only the lowest on the totem pole would be blamed for the wretched season that was. It’s that old adage of stuff rolling down hill (to put it cleanly) and that’s just what’s happened up at Flowery Branch. So, there has already been countless changes to almost every position coach, coordinators, strength and conditioning coaches, and now even one position has been changed not once, but twice in Smith’s tenure. This is not necessarily to say that some changes weren’t needed, but the issue is that the same problems that were apparent in year 1 are still occurring in year 6 and there’s only one common denominator: the head coach and general manager.

At least Gonzalez Came Back (AJC)

There has been unprecedented success with Smith and Dimitroff in Atlanta. The best run in franchise history, in fact. The problem is that fans are starting to lose faith on whether or not these two can produce a championship, or at least compete for one. What does the Falcons owner want with this team: does he want a championship or is he content with 9-10 wins a year and just making it to the playoffs? He said emphatically after the 2011 Meltdown in the Meadowlands that he wants championships (as in plural). Smith and Dimitroff have piled up a great record over the past 6 years and it’s hard to argue on them getting a “chance to fix it,” as Blank said, but the Falcons organization are literally out of people to blame other than the main two in charge and many fans have lost faith in their ability to “fix it.”

Oh, the Minor Changes

It’s inevitable that anytime the main cogs stay in place in an organization, especially the NFL, that changes will happen. But the funny thing is that almost every position coach and other position on the football team has been made short of the head coach. Some coaches have moved on to higher positions, but most were asked to leave. There will likely be some that are missed, but since 2008, there have been a bunch of changes. CB coach Emmitt Thomas, OL coach Paul Boudreau, QB coach Bill Musgrave moved to be the Vikings offensive coordinator, offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey and defensive coordinator Brian Van Gorder “got new jobs,” QB coach Bob Bratkowski moved with Mularkey, strength and conditioning coach Jeff Fish, and now OL coach (for a second time) Pat Hill and DL coach Ray Hamilton. And for good measure, they made sure to get rid of the assistant OL coach Paul Dunn.

Perhaps this is just the normal occurrences of any football organization in the NFL that stays as long as they have, but what’s become painfully apparent is the seeming refusal to address those at the very top of the organization, and after this most recent collapse there doesn’t seem to be any attempt to look at the deep-seated issues that have plagued this team for 6 years. When a team changes it’s highest 3 positions underneath the head coach (OC, DC, OL coach) after one weak season and feels the need to change the very same position only 2 years later after they’re the ones who hired said OL coach, than there’s more problems than just a few position coaches away from a Super Bowl.

OL, DL Coaches to Blame for Trainwreck Season?

Trufant a Bright Spot (AJC)

Assuming no other changes are made, this has all the feel of the best of scapegoating in the world. This is certainly not to say that changes weren’t needed, but it’s so ridiculous to pin the entire disaster on two coaches. Oh yeah, and the injuries excuse as well. It’s amazing how the Packers went without one of the best players in the game in Aaron Rodgers for 7 weeks and they found a way to make the playoffs, but that’s for another time. Ray Hamilton hasn’t done much of anything in the way of producing one single pass-rusher in his time as a Falcons assistant coach. That’s simply the truth. However, it’s impossible and ridiculously short-sighted to blame one position coach for not generating a pass rush, and the lowest hanging fruit nonetheless.

Hamilton probably could have been replaced a year or so ago if it was only his problem, and he surely shares some of that blame. However, he’s only one part in that machine. He didn’t draft any of the countless number of players that have turned out to be busts (Peria Jerry, Lawrence Sidbury), spent only lower round selections on DL (Jonathan Massaquoi, Cliff Matthews, Travian Robertson), had an epic fail on a free agent DE (Ray Edwards), and can only claim two players in 6 drafts that are marginally OK (Biermann, Peters). Not sure Hamilton was the one drafting all these defensive linemen. The fact that the only pass rush has come from two McKay holdovers (Babineaux, Abraham) the past 5 years is pretty criminal. Furthermore, the development system has been pretty putrid across the entire team in most positions. Does he get the blame for that too?

The Buck Stops Here………………..Nope

Mass another Bright Spot (AJC)

While Hamilton could conceivably been let go or scapegoated a few years ago, the case of Pat Hill is just preposterous. After the terrible showing vs. the Giants where the Falcons barely squeaked into the playoffs and could only claim Detroit as their biggest win, the Falcons fired Paul Boudreau after leading an OL more resembling a scrap heap of undrafted free agents including Harvey Dahl and Tyson Clabo, combined with 7th round pick Todd McClure, Blalock, and oft-injured Sam Baker with Todd Weiner taking over or him much of the time. While nowhere close to perfect or even great, they provided a good enough OL to get the playoffs in 2008 and secure the #1 NFC seed in 2010. After Dimitroff parted ways with Harvey Dahl, the OL went to crap, but apparently Boudreau was the only one responsible.

So they bring in Pat Hill, their own hire by the way, and a coach who hadn’t been in the NFL in over a decade. After one pretty good year in 2012, again seeing the Falcons wrap up the #1 NFC seed, a year later it was Hill’s turn to be the sacrificial lamb, along with his OL assistant coach Paul Dunn. It’s simply amazing how Hill takes the fall in only 2 years after they were the ones who hired him, and in 6 years all the higher-ups consider any talk of it being their fault as heresy or that they might need to change their ways as beyond reproach. While it’s true that Hill probably shares some of the blame, just as Hamilton did, he only had two years, and one of them garnered enough productivity to get the #1 seed and be only a few yards away from going to the Super Bowl. Thomas Dimitroff has used draft picks in every round going up to the 5th round: Baker (1st), Konz (2nd), Holmes & Johnson (3rd), Hawley (4th), and Reynolds (5th).

It’s not as though he hasn’t spent high picks on players, it’s just that something has gone terribly wrong with developing not ONE of these picks into anything more than halfway solid. Whoever is charged with developing and scouting these draft picks should be getting their pink slip along with Hill, Dunn, and Hamilton. This hasn’t just been an issue with the OL and DL, but with pretty much the entire roster. Does the head coach, general manager, strength and conditioning coaches, and scouting staff not get any blame whatsoever for this epic failure? Guess not.

Why Not Scapegoat More?

If the Falcons organization is into blaming everyone but the main people in charge, than they should really take a look at all the underlings who severely underperformed in 2013 and beyond. Let’s start with the QB Coach Glenn Thomas. Should he keep his job after Matt Ryan had one of the worst years of his career. He threw boatloads of interceptions, couldn’t escape the rush, threw out of bounds way too many times, and didn’t get it done this year. Terry Robiskie did a very good job of developing some of the lesser known receivers in 2013, including Harry Douglas, and undrafted free agents Drew Davis and Darius Johnson, especially when Julio Jones and Roddy White had injuries most of the year. Besides, he has the title of assistant head coach, so he’s definitely above reprieve.

"First of all, don't look at us!" (AJC)

How about the running backs coach Gerald Brown, who has he developed in 6 years? Michael Turner came in tough for many years, but fell off the 30 year old cliff with no backup plan. Jacquizz Rodgers has shown bursts here and there, but he’s proven not be a feature back. Jason Snelling has been Mr. Dependable for the Falcons, but never able to carry the weight. They have one of the fastest running backs in the NFL and he can’t get more than 10 touches in a season? Can Coach Brown not stand up for Smith getting more carries? Does Mark Collins, labeled as a defensive assistant, not get major blame for helping to produce one of the worst defenses in the NFL?

What about DB coach Tim Lewis and his assistant Joe Danna. I guess they should get credit for rookie cornerbacks Desmond Trufant and Robert Alford, but shouldn’t they be held responsible for for the wretched performance by their safeties, especially Thomas DeCoud? The Falcons LB coach Glenn Pires could have been saved by the performance of undrafted rookies Paul Worrilow and Joplo Bartu. But that pales in comparison to the failure the linebackers have shown since 2008. Sean Weatherspoon was a 1st round pick, but surely doesn’t play like one. Stephen Nicholas was re-signed to a big contract and lost his spot to a UDFA. Akeem Dent was a 3rd round pick, and also lost his job to an undrafted free agent. Talk about failure.

The Great One will Be Missed (AJC)

Chris Schelfo has had Tony Gonzalez, the best tight end to ever play the game, at his disposal in every year except one. But how can he not be held accountable for not developing one single tight end in 5 years, knowing that Gonzalez would be retiring sooner rather than later? Andy finally, what about special teams coach Keith Armstrong and his assistant Eric Sutulovich. Sure it’s true that the Falcons special teams weren’t terrible, but didn’t the Falcons have a couple of punts blocked and never once returned punts or kickoffs more than 20 or so yards? Keith Armstrong is a coordinator, so obviously he’s immune to any criticism, him being a higher-up and all.

While this is obviously tongue-and-cheek, the point is that it’s completely absurd and foolish to simply blame a terrible season on three assistant coaches. It would be one thing if this was the first time that changes have been made in Smith and Dimitroff’s tenure, but it’s not. This is not to say that the Falcons won’t or can’t turn it back around in 2014, but it’s fairly cowardly to throw all the blame on 3 coaches with the least amount of power. Anything to prevent real criticism for the two with the most power and thus the most influence on why the collapse occurred.

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Unca' Bob

January 4th, 2014
10:34 am

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Flo-Ri-Duh

January 4th, 2014
10:51 am

D3 – One word for you my friend – PROZAC.

While I’m here, do we really need another “Clowney” on this team… ?

-YES the OL sux and YES they need to find a real OL coach – but will probably with another Mike Smith brown noser.

Someone on here actually said that Holmes is “serviceable” at ROT and “improving”. Could he get worse? This same person said that Sam Baker is good enough for now. Hand me some of that PROZAC if you have one left.

Flo-Ri-Duh

January 4th, 2014
10:52 am

Unca’ (10:34) – That is your shortest comment yet.

D3

January 4th, 2014
10:57 am

Duh —- WTF? I can’t decide whether that’s a compliment, insult, or something so strange that I can’t understand it.

Flo-Ri-Duh

January 4th, 2014
10:59 am

MUTE / MOOT MOCK 1/4/14 : and yes I do have a degree Unca’ though it does have a BS at the beginning of it.

#1 Jake Matthews (LOT)
#2 Cyril Richardson (OG)
#3 DeQuan Jones (DT)
#4 Shayne Skov (ILB)
#5 Arthur Lynch (TE)
#6 Ryan Carrethers (DT)
#7 Jay Prosch (FB)

Seminole Warrior

January 4th, 2014
11:07 am

D3

Outstanding subject….and I will be back later to voice my opinions (controversial as always).

Working on the thread that I promised you about the draft; taking my time because I really want the Falcons Nation to think about the direction (or lack thereof) that we have at this time.

Personally, the Tee Pee still thinks that there was FAR GREATER value in the 2013 selection meetings than there will be this year, especially in the positions that the Falcons will be searching.

Lost cause. But more to come.

Flo-Ri-Duh

January 4th, 2014
11:07 am

D3- Probably something strange…. I’m not the insulting type. Trying to liven the place up with a little humor on here – sorry if it’s different than what you are used too(to?). It’s all doom
and gloom.

While I’m at it thanks for being here for us…

ws falcon

January 4th, 2014
11:18 am

D3,, well done. I agree with you 100 %.
Why can’t Stooge one( ARTIE) see this?
Flo-Ri-Duh,
I do not agree with you on Lynch after watching him in Gator bowl with game on line, drop two passes right in his hands. I have watched him this year. He looks ok sometimes, but he drops too many passes. We have enough drop ball receivers.

Seminole Warrior

January 4th, 2014
11:20 am

Flo

I’m done with the doom and gloom. The Tee Pee is taking the Bob Stoops approach. The facts are what they are. When we call it out and back it with clear evidence, it is on the fans to do their own research.

As I told my brother from another mother (Hi mom), D3, this offseason is going to be one of bringing the rain.

Truman stated that the buck had to stop somewhere so he said it stopped with him. Well, clearly, the Three Stooges are no fan of the former President as they continue, CONTINUE, to live in a bad dream of being one move, one player, one coaching change, away. That is premier BS!!

And some of us are going to call it out for what it is….simply, BS.

RISE UP be damned!!

marko

January 4th, 2014
11:56 am

From the ESPN article on the Falcons search for new line coaches,

“Tice worked with Smith and Falcons offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter in Jacksonville. The former NFL tight end has a knack for motivating offensive linemen and turning marginal talent into solid contributors, as he did with a few players in Chicago.”

Well Mike this looks like your lucky day. Have we got some marginal talent for you. After you’ve finished turning our talent into solid contributors, perhaps you can take a stale loaf of white bread, and a couple of sardines, and feed the multitudes.

I re-posted this one because I felt it somewhat relevant to the current topic.

D3

January 4th, 2014
12:40 pm

Good Afternoon Cage….. Didn’t want to come off as over the top, but I did want to hit home this point of having fall guys every year something doesn’t go the way it should. SW gets all the credit in the world, because he’s literally called everything the entire step of the way, and this was 2-3 years ago. For instance, they fired the strength and conditioning coach last off-season and they were WORSE and way more out of shape. The point is that they have literally run out of people to blame, but themselves. It’s amazing, though, how many fans are buying this load of BS they are feeding us.

Was looking around the web at various blogs and see a lot of posters, fans, and comments about how a new RG and a new OL coach will solve all that ills us. That’s the freakin’ problem. We’re not one anything away (one coordinator, one OL coach, one strength trainer, player) from the Super Bowl. Let’s face it, we gobbled up a lot of victories on a really crappy schedule that included the Saints without their head coach, the Bucs and Panthers in turmoil, a crappy AFC West, and weak NFC East. Look what happened when we had a real schedule, the Saints got their HC back, and the Panthers finally put it together. Amazing how they can have the 2nd best defense in the NFL in less than 3 years, but our defense literally gets worse every season or is at the very bottom in almost every category.

Simply put, I will love and support my favorite team as I always have, but I’m going to call them out for the BS they’ve been shoveling the last few years. Many fans are seeing the light, but they wouldn’t keep getting away with the propaganda and scapegoating if it didn’t still work.

Arthur Blank is officially on the clock because he either is unwilling or unable to put his friendships and emotional feelings aside to do what’s best for his and our team.

Chop Buster

January 4th, 2014
12:53 pm

I don’t know if I would call the OL & DL scapegoats, because they were TERRIBLE position coaches–at least for the schemes that we run. In fact, I think a number of our position coaches need to go…DB and LB included.

None of our young players have improved their technique at their position. OL doesn’t have a clue how to use leverage and get under the defender’s pads; DL doesn’t know how to use their hands, dip their hips coming around the edge or get under the Ol’s pads and bull-doze the opponent; LBs do not know how to shed blocks or use their hands to keep OLmen off of them (big but NT would help that); and our DBs watch the WR, rather than playing the ball or using their body to drive the receiver to the side line. The players that have success seem to come to the Falcons with a certain amount of skills already (Joplo and Worrilow were both tackling machines in college).

D3

January 4th, 2014
1:00 pm

Chop — You make a very good point. I think Hamilton should’ve been gone long ago. But the problem with Pat Hill is…..who hired him in the first place? So on one hand, sure, you made a decision to let him go, but only hiring him two years ago says they have terrible judgement in the first place and it’s hard to believe they’ll ever get it right. Ultimately, I have no confidence whatsoever in Smith as our HC, and I’m pretty much coming to that same conclusion on Dimitroff as well. Especially with that ridiculous statement of his, “we’re not going to change the way we do things,” and garbage like that. Every single option should be on the table when you’re picked to win the Super Bowl and go 4-12.

Arno

January 4th, 2014
1:01 pm

The expressions on Dimitroff and Smith’s faces, after the firings were announced, had a tragic look to them. They’d had to fire those they considered good coaches and personal friends. The message was supposed to be clear to us fans: that the Falcons will do whatever it takes to come clean, make a culture change, to fix the soft lines.

No doubt the line coaches knew what was coming. Yes they were sort of like scapegoats– the innocent ones, upon whom the sins of others are placed, then to be banished to the wilderness.

On the other hand, they were not like scapegoats at all. With scapegoats, the sins of others must be confessed before they are placed upon the innocent ones. And despite the rueful expressions on Dimitroff and Smith’s faces, they conceded nothing.

As a fan, the only message from the firings that comes through to me, is that they think I’m stupid.

falcon21

January 4th, 2014
1:05 pm

D3, does that remind you of our former owners? The Smiths were football stupid and Mr. Blank seems to be in the same boat although Taylor Smith did finally get it right by bringing in a man that had a football mind and Mr. Blank fired him.

Chop Buster

January 4th, 2014
1:09 pm

D3 – “But the problem with Pat Hill is…..who hired him in the first place? So on one hand, sure, you made a decision to let him go, but only hiring him two years ago says they have terrible judgement in the first place and it’s hard to believe they’ll ever get it right.”

I think it comes down to what I believe SW said, Stooge 3 and the CFA has no vision for this team. One wants it to be a down the field passing team while the other is stuck in 1970 Pittsburgh Steeler ground and pound mode. I believe their differing views are beginning to surface and they’re no longer on the same page when they started together.

The bottom line is the Falcon’s have yet to fix the DL and OL issues we had in 2008. Dimitty has now screwed up what little team chemistry we had by getting rid of vets and bringing in too many young guys with no experience. We are NOT going to be able to build this team strictly through the draft. This one FA signing each off season has to stop.

Chop Buster

January 4th, 2014
1:13 pm

D3, I agree with your Dimitty statement. I’ve never been high on his hiring because he never hired or fired anyone in the Patriot organization. He was just a scout. If anything, you must have a good GM that knows how to build teams the right way. You can always find another HC, but it could take years for a team to recover from bad personnel decisions.

Chop Buster

January 4th, 2014
1:15 pm

F21, you hit the nail on the head. Out of all the clowns (stooges) Arthur hired none of them are football guys that know how to build a team. And it sure isn’t McKay so let’s not go there.

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JJ

January 4th, 2014
2:01 pm

Whose bright idea was it to hire a ZBS coach when our stubborn smitty is a PBS old school, refuses to change…POS!!!

JB, Rock is 15-16.

JB Falcon

January 4th, 2014
2:11 pm

Question(to TD) from the pay site: What did you mean by the ‘missed assessment’ of the veteran cuts last season?

A: My point was, individually, I don’t believe that we made mistakes as far as individually cutting people and releasing people. There were a lot of things involved in that from the standpoint of not only their ability on the field, but other things that played into it from a cap standpoint, etc.

My point was, the aggregate. Overall, the decisions to make all of the moves that we made was where I believe there was, personally from my standpoint, from what I did, a missed assessment on how that was going to affect the football team.

One thing, and I’ve said this all along, this is a collaborative organization. This just isn’t one person throwing around their weight and making decisions, but in the end I’m responsible for that decision to decide what we are going to do ultimately across the board. With that many moves, I think it affected this team in certain ways that I probably underestimated the impact of that.

That last line is somewhat of an admission of “failure” if you ask me!

Seminole Warrior

January 4th, 2014
2:36 pm

JB F

Excellent points. That is the mission we have this off season. We TRUE and KNOWLEDGEABLE fans must raise the voice and spread the news.

Fall guys be damned. This team underachieves for ONE reason and one reason only.

From top to the field, there is no vision, no approach, no intensity, no realism. This is the ultimate charade; a team that gloats in luck based success and his from truth when faced with noted failures.

Big Ray

January 4th, 2014
3:13 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/53693/gm-wasnt-worried-over-ryans-health

Read this article and understand two things, if you haven’t already:

1. Dimitroff’s arrogance knows no apparent bounds. He should be fired just off of the comments he made. Ask Mike Shanahan how that works….

2. Roddy White’s comments will cause him issues at the negotiating table, he just doesn’t know it yet. The one thing that could save him? Matt Ryan. Maybe.

SG

January 4th, 2014
3:33 pm

Chop 12:53 Agreed, they were hideous.

Regarding Tice as a potential OL coach: Other than the typical NFL cronyism that exists, I’ve seen few positives in any of his stints as any kind of a coach, that would make him a fit for any championship caliber team. So let’s hire the HoFer Munchak for the OL.

JBF / SW You are both sooooo correct. But therein is where most of our frustrations lie – especially these last 2-3 years. Not he sacrificial lambs, not the play calling, not the WPP, etc. etc.. It’s just that as AB has given them the requested consistency they asked for in ‘08 to develop their ‘process’ shouldn’t they have their proverbial sh*t together by now to develop an enviable culture – vis-à-vis the Patriot Way?

SG

January 4th, 2014
3:40 pm

BR
TD’s enlightened comments from the Branch – aka Valhalla – have made the rounds on a number of blogs. I’m wondering if AB will spank Spike.

Big Ray

January 4th, 2014
4:02 pm

SG , one can hope….I suppose….

Big Ray

January 4th, 2014
4:10 pm

SG ,

As long as Smitty is here, I don’t see any real barn-burners coming to town. Tice fits because he wants to fit, meaning he won’t speak up anymore than Pat Hill did. Of course, if he has any brains, he’ll know that this also makes him good fodder for scapegoating, though I think Smitty has gone to that well for the last time.

This will be Smitty’s 3rd OL coach in 6 years….something is stirring in the koolaid, but it ain’t sugar….

I was surprised that Mike Nolan came to town, even more so that he was effectively retained. Best bet is to GIVE HIM HIS 3-4 DEFENSE, but I’m not convinced Smitty or TD understands this.

Our only hope is to get the actual talent. Not convinced that will happen either. Likely, we pick up somebody to fit a system that we’re not even using. Like the last 2 years.

Somebody pull me off the ledge….

Big Ray

January 4th, 2014
4:11 pm

Then again, maybe Pat Hill DID speak up….

Flo-Ri-Duh

January 4th, 2014
6:28 pm

ws falcon (11:18 am) – YES Lynch had two bad drops with the game on the line and earlier he had 4 or 5 great catches. I just believe the talent is there and in the 5th round he’s a whole lot better than Toyboy and what they have on the bench now.

rASAQ

January 4th, 2014
6:33 pm

Auther, Smitty, and TD are NOT the problem.

BarbT

January 4th, 2014
6:33 pm

Recruit personnel from the North to prepare for the AFC North and NFC North teams in 2014.

Rasaq

January 4th, 2014
6:36 pm

They arent scapgoats. They failed at their jobs so they are beig repaced. I think this was a stupid artical to write but I dot blame your boss, I blame you the writer.

JJ

January 4th, 2014
6:51 pm

JB Falcon

January 4th, 2014
6:56 pm

There’s a saying about something being around since the beginning of time, and there is no cure for it. I forget what it is but am beginning to remember.

falcon21

January 4th, 2014
7:00 pm

Great job at staying cool JJ. You are a better man than me!

Seminole Warrior

January 4th, 2014
7:01 pm

I wonder what troll is now going to plant himself among our Cage ranks and attempt to take us off message?

Beware trolls, beware Stooges, beware all. The Cage is hear to stay!!!

falcon21

January 4th, 2014
7:10 pm

Rasaq, you blame the writer? Get back under Mike Smith’s desk!

JJ

January 4th, 2014
7:11 pm

21, low BAC…waiting for taints and these clowns do not deserve a response! We all know how much are buddy “writer” brings to the table, ’nuff said.

Unca' Bob

January 4th, 2014
7:12 pm

Fear the six year olds!!

JJ

January 4th, 2014
7:17 pm

UB, lol- 2nd prize tonight. First goes to SG with “spank spikey:!

JB Falcon

January 4th, 2014
7:31 pm

I guess, if you’re fishing with no bait whatsoever, and wait long enough, you will catch a fish.

So, the more I watch this first playoff game the more I get ticked off at the FO. The Falcons should be playing instead of packing their bags. Our record for the past five years has proven that it is not the players. Move one card, in a house of cards, and the whole thing falls down!!! What the H*ll was the FO thinking?
Was TD the one AB interviewed via the internet or was that Petrino? Either way, I think AB made a huge mistake by hiring TD. Take a look at his history and all we have is a glorified groundskeeper who knows nothing about leading a professional football team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Dimitroff

Unca' Bob

January 4th, 2014
7:44 pm

JJ,

Dag nab it! I’m in it for the glory!

JB Falcon

January 4th, 2014
7:45 pm

Let me shorten up my last post. AB owns a 40,000 acre, $1mil, peach orchard. He fires his general manager, who controls his farm from the ground up, because his profit was down. So, what does AB do? He uses all of his knowledge as a business builder to hire the best peach picker he can find to turn the entire organization around.
I love AB to death but I wonder if he has ever heard of dementia?

JJ

January 4th, 2014
8:03 pm

BRING ON THE TAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

falcon21

January 4th, 2014
8:07 pm

JJ

January 4th, 2014
8:09 pm

21, Dont make me gut you boy!!! from some movie, lol!!!

Unca' Bob

January 4th, 2014
8:09 pm

JB Falcon,

I love AB to death but I wonder if he has ever heard of dementia?

I’ve heard of it, but I can’t remember what it is.

Birdman

January 4th, 2014
8:12 pm

Go Eagles !!!!!!

FF1979

January 4th, 2014
8:44 pm

JJ

January 4th, 2014
8:44 pm

Ohh No, drewbessus has 2 picks????lolololololololol