What Changes are Needed on Atlanta Falcons Defense?
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Defensive End
The lack of pass rush other than John Abraham has been beaten to a pulp by fans and critics alike for years and years, and rightly so. This defense has been downright pitiful in getting to the quarterback. Sure, it’s not the easiest thing in the world to do, but the failure to develop ANY pass rush from the defensive ends spot, or any defensive end prospect for that matter over a 5 year period is just criminal. They tried to move Kroy Biermann to a full-time DE in the 4-3, even though he was unanimously projected as an OLB at the next level. They re-signed Chauncey Davis to a starter level contract and he did absolutely nothing. They signed Ray Edwards and we all know how that turned out. Lawrence Sidbury must have kicked Mike Smith’s dog, because he’s nowhere to be found, even though he earned 4 sacks in very limited chances in 2011. Cliff Matthews and Jonathan Massaquoi showed some potential, but they didn’t see the field until Ray Edwards got himself cut.
Time for these fellas to produce (AJC)
This position, like several others, needs a complete overhaul. Will they be able to go out and get an elite defensive end? No, and they shouldn’t even try. First of all, they’re going to have to make some very painful decisions to build this defense for the long haul, not even mentioning that they will have to clear cap space somehow. Abraham might be on the block to get cut since he’ll be 35 in May and has shown signs of slowing. As mentioned before, a move to the 3-4 seems to be the best way to go. The move would allow the Falcons to try Biermann, Massaquoi, Matthews, Sidbury (if they keep him), and maybe even Nicholas to a standup outside linebacker, for none of them seem ready to lift off at DE in the 4-3.
Even if Abraham is somehow kept, he could prolong his career by standing up as OLB, not having to take a beating every single play with his hand in the dirt. Given all the resources over a span of 5 years, it’s time to overhaul this position and it’s best described by Albert Einstein’s famous quote: “doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.” Assessment — Implosion
Defensive Tackle
Major Changes @ DT (AJC)
This position has been one of the most underperforming since Smith and Dimitroff took over. It’s not even out of the realm to say that the Falcons did better with the likes of Rod Coleman and big Grady Jackson. Jonathan Babineaux has been the only consistency at defensive tackle and, like Abraham, he hasn’t had much of any help on the other side. Corey Peters was a nice surprise, but his injury limited his production in 2012. Vance Walker is excellent as a rotation tackle. Who knows about Travian Robertson because he was placed firmly in Smith’s “Witness Protection Program.” Peria Jerry is without a doubt Dimitroff’s worst pick and really is not worth keeping around at this point, regardless of how little he costs towards the salary cap. Micanor Regis is on the practice squad and is extremely athletic for someone his size (6’3, 307) and could make the leap if he continues to progress.
It may not make any sense to clean house to an extent, but if you keep going back to the fact that what’s been done previously just has not worked in hardly any capacity, than it’s easier to remember that changes are needed. As mentioned before, Jerry’s time has come and gone and cutting him wouldn’t alter very much going forward and would even save $1 million towards the cap. If they move to a 3-4, Walker, Peters, and Robertson could move to a 5-technique defensive end, and Peters could backup at Nose Tackle in a pinch. That would clear two spots for the draft, where they could double dip at nose tackle, or take a nose tackle and a player for 5 technique. If they can figure out a way to keep Jonathan Babineaux, it will be fantastic. But the consummate Falcon is one of the few candidates that could save the Falcons major money towards the cap and wouldn’t create any dead money, almost $5 million. No fan wants to lose any player that’s been so productive and so loyal for so long, but it’s a business and it may be an unfortunate reality. Going back to the underlying point, the past hasn’t worked and it’s time for a change, especially at defensive tackle. Assessment — Implosion
Linebackers
Big Changes @ LB? (AJC)
Once a group with so much promise, the Atlanta Falcons LB corps wasn’t the strength many thought it may be in 2012. The position got off to a bad start when Lofa Tatupu was injured in the weight room during his comeback attempt before the season even started. He may not have won the starting job anyway, but at least he would have provided competition and may could have helped in coverage. Akeem Dent didn’t see the field much, but had major issues in the beginning, particularly in coverage, but did show some improvement towards the end of the season. His future as a long-time starter is still in doubt, though.
Stephen Nicholas was thought to possibly blossom after getting a fairly large contract and being placed in Mike Nolan’s more aggressive scheme. He maybe didn’t have a “terrible” year, notching almost 100 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 interception, and 1 forced fumble. But he looked particularly poor in the playoffs trying to cover in space. Some think that Nicholas could be on the dock to be cut, but his he’s owed $3 million in signing bonus money and it doesn’t make any sense. Mike Peterson has been a stalwart in the locker room for his leadership and toughness, but it’s time to move on. Robert James has had plenty of chances to make a move after 5 years, so it’s time to give someone else a chance. Pat Schiller is hanging around the practice squad and showed some major promise, so perhaps he could make the jump.
Is Dent a Full-Time Starter? (AJC)
After a very good start, even Sean Weatherspoon wasn’t the same after his injury. A move to the 3-4 would obviously change the complexion of the position, and Biermann should get consideration of a move to outside linebacker regardless of what scheme they run. They obviously won’t be looking to add any linebackers in free agency, mainly because they don’t have any money to do so, but also due to the fact that there’s not much there anyway. Linebacker should get a long look as an early pick in this year’s draft. Considering that both backup spots should be open and that Spoon is really the only true linebacker to build around, this needs a big change as well. Assessment – Dynamite, bordering on Implosion
Cornerbacks
One of the few bright spots for the Falcons on defense this year. Asante Samuel and Dunta Robinson formed a good and solid duo, if not dominant. This is also considering that they planned on rolling with 3 starting caliber corners, choosing to give $10+ million on Brent Grimes and losing him in the first game of the season. Robert McClain was a nice surprise and played extremely well in the nickel role. The former practice squad player even played well on the outside when called upon. Chris Owens showed the form he had back as a rookie and he looks to be kept in free agency for depth and continued development. Dominique Franks appears to be on his way out again after only getting the nod after Brent Grimes was put on IR and offering absolutely nothing as a punt returner.
Should he stay or should he go? (AJC)
Some think that Dunta Robinson might be on the cap casualty block. But his contract seems to be that the Falcons would have to pay around $3 million just to cut him, which would create yet another hole to fill on an already weak defense. Others think that the Falcons will cut Robinson and keep Grimes. It’s surely a possibility, but a major risk with Grimes coming off a major Achilles heel injury. The secondary wasn’t the problem nearly as much as the front seven, and really played quite well considering the pitiful pass rush.
Robert McClain looks set solid as the nickel back after doing a fantastic job this past season. He will definitely be kept and could maybe even be groomed to take over full-time after Robinson or Samuel either retire or decline. Chris Owens is a free agent this season, but should also be kept. After a few years of seeming regression, he seemed to have somewhat of a small rebirth under Nolan and his new defense. Injuries plagued him late in the year, but overall he provides excellent depth as the #4 cornerback and has experience of starting as well. Dominique Franks is technically under contract for 2013, but looks to likely be on his way out. Franks either has regressed from his initial potential or just isn’t suited for Nolan’s defense. A few young cornerbacks in the draft might be a good spot for a #5 CB to groom and develop. Assessment — Firecrackers
Safeties
Stable @ Safety (AJC)
This is one of the few strengths of the defense and both safeties, Thomas DeCoud and William Moore, were promoted to the Pro Bowl when the 49ers duo went to the Super Bowl. They aren’t perfect and must work on their consistency from week to week, but at times they look like the best safety tandem in the league. DeCoud is mostly good on coverage skills, but the image of trying to arm tackle Vernon Davis in the NFC Championship Game will long linger. William Moore is set to become a free agent, but it’s hard to imagine Dimitroff not doing everything he can to keep Moore a Falcon. There was a recent report that Moore wants to test the free agent market, but it’s not the best year for him to do it. Superb safeties Jarius Byrd, Kenny Phillips, and Dashon Goldson are also set to become free agents and Moore missing extensive time due to injury doesn’t help his case either. Expect Dimitroff to keep one of his young stars in red and black, but if not, there are other free agent options available.
Charles Mitchell seems to have a future as not only a backup safety, but could eventually work himself into something more. The backup positions have essentially been turnstiles since Dimitroff took over, whether being low draft picks that eventually lose their job such as Shann Schillinger, undrafted free agents, or journeymen who never stick. Dimitroff usually reserves the other spot for a good veteran safety that can come in and perform well in case injuries are an issue, mainly William Moore. James Sanders filled that role last year and Chris Hope did a very good job this year. Assuming Hope doesn’t ask for the moon, it’s very reasonable to see him sticking around for another year. If the Falcons can keep Moore, this is the most stable of positions not only on defense, but also on the entire team. Assessment — Firecrackers.
Punt Returner
Someone, Anyone (AJC)
Nothing too much to elaborate here, but is there anything bigger than an implosion? Franks showed a tiny glimpse in preseason only to use fair catches the entire season. The punt return game literally added no threat or offensive help whatsoever. Harry Douglas got a late season chance at returner, but couldn’t get it together or find his groove either. The Falcons need to add a major infusion of talent and competition both at punt returner and relieve Jacquizz Rodgers on kick return. Assessment — Massive Implosion
Bird Cage Citizens Turn
1) Quick INT – How much work does defense need: minor, medium, or major repairs?
2) What should happen to the defensive end position?
3) Any free agents to look at DE or purely draft?
4) What should happen to the defensive tackle position?
5) Free agents, draft, or both at DT?
6) Who’s your 5 or 6 DTs on opening day?
7) Implode the linebacker corps if you must: what’s your plan?
8.) Who would be your 5-6 LBs on opening day?
9) What’s your plan @ cornerback?
10) What should Falcons do if William Moore maxes out somewhere else?
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Big Ray
February 15th, 2013
12:13 am
WR ,
Damn. Good. Post.
Glad to see you around.
And SP too, LOL.
Big Ray
February 15th, 2013
3:01 am
Ok, so time to do my midnight mad hatter thing….
Big Ray
February 15th, 2013
3:28 am
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2013positionreviewRB.php
I hope we take a RB in this year’s draft…preferably before the 5th round, but then….we got Quizz in that round, so you never know.
That said, perhaps we should start taking serious looks at guys who are not currently ranked in the top 5-7 prospect names at the moment. You never know where you could find your Alfred Morris or other talented RB that can really help your team.
That said, it’s also important that the WPP be abolished in such cases. Quizz should have been proof that you don’t have to take a substantial amount of time breaking a rookie RB in. Let the kid get out there in the trenches and fight for it. Quizz’s work ethic and attitude proved he was no liability in pass protection, nor would he be a fumble magnet. And talk about reliable in receiving situations!
And having said THAT….I have some opinions on what Charlie Campbell wrote in the above link:
1) Eddie Lacy is indeed a physical RB, but if he has had some issues with injuries in college (feet, legs) then the NFL is going to be that much harder. He’s a load at 220…but that’s nothing NFL defenders aren’t used to.
There’s another thing. Lacy gets plenty of mention for the famous spin move he likes to use. In the NFL that = fumble waiting to happen. Not guaranteed, but then look how many teams have defenders that are good at stripping or knocking the ball loose? You can spin away from one guy and spin right into a 6′4″ 250 lb LB who is at the height of his 4.6 speed…
2) I don’t see how Campbell has Joseph Randle as the biggest potential bust. The reason I say this is he also mentions Jamison and talks about their weight. 200 lbs may or may not be ideal in a RB, but this is a different League these days. Guys don’t always need to “pound” the ball…they need to be able to gash defenses. They need to be able to act as receivers. There simply aren’t as many “bashers” as there used to be, plain and simple.
Also, many teams are platooning RBs. Some use two guys, some use 3 or 4.
Part of what can end up in a RB being a bust revolves around the typical size/speed/strength/vision continuum. The other part centers SQUARELY on how a team uses him.
Case in point – Darren Sproles. Used somewhat decently in San Diego, he put up some decent stats in large part because of his speed. However, he truly blossomed in New Orleans because he was used so much more often, in ways that truly took advantage of his talents/abilities. The dude is 5′6″ and 190 lbs (soaking wet, I might add).
Then there is JaQuizz Rodgers, who lacks Sproles blazing speed but doesn’t go down easy, almost always makes the first (and sometimes second) defender miss when in space, and continually finds ways to get yards when it seems like there shouldn’t be a way. We know Quizz’s measurables.
The Randle may not be ideal as a feature back. Neither is David Wilson at 5′9″ and 205. Yeah, I know he runs a mean 40. So what? It’s more than just being “overly fast or physical.”
We know this. We’ve seen it.
At 5′10″ and 218, Alfred Morris promised a little more physicality, but didn’t/doesn’t have particularly noticeable power. And his 40 time? An uninspiring 4.67. Yet, he was right there with Adrian Peterson (a once-in-a-decade type of RB) and Marshawn Lynch.
‘Nuff said…
Big Ray
February 15th, 2013
3:31 am
Meant to say that Alfred Morris doesn’t have noticeably “overwhelming” power. He runs hard, but not as much of a beast as Lynch or even Frank Gore, in my opinion.
BTW, read the above link to its conclusion. Some interesting observations by Campbell, though I don’t agree with all of them.
marko
February 15th, 2013
6:09 am
Most the mock drafts are all over the place when it comes to selecting a player for the Falcons. that’s pretty normal for this time of year. If there’s any consensus, in the mocking universe, It’s that the Falcons will go tight end or defensive end. I don’t see it in the cards. First, having come so close this year, I strongly expect Tony to change his mind, and even if he doesn’t, I’d be surprised to see the birds go tight end that early. Defensive end makes more sense, but by the time the Falcons pick the best should be history.
I’m sticking with defensive tackle. Against the 49ers we couldn’t rush the passer or stop the runs inside the red zone. Can you believe somebody casually strolling into our end zone, standing up, from nine yards out? If you really want to help out the linebackers, and the outside rushers, for god’s sake tighten up our flabby middle.
CBS’s Bob Rang thinks the Falcons should Pick Oregon’s Dion Jordan(DE). His co-worker, Dan Brugler, suggest we go with Stanford’s Zach Ertz. I don’t see either as horrible choices , but I think that we’d be making a very serious mistake if we left a Jessie Williams sitting on the board and took either one of these guys. Of the two picks picks Jordan fills the the greater need, but he’s viewed as a bit of a project. Williams is already ready to report for duty.
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Birdman
February 15th, 2013
9:32 am
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d9H5h?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
9:39 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1528692-10-most-anticipated-athletes-at-the-nfl-scouting-combine/page/10
Ken Strickland
February 15th, 2013
9:48 am
I’m just not sold on resigning LT SBaker. He had a good season and showed what he’s capable of when healthy. But can he and his back issues be counted on to continue to remain healthy & productive? I’d much rather resign Svitek, move him to RT, Clabo to RG, and start Holmes at LT. That would be a cheaper and safer move.
I wonder why Gonzo is refusing to reveal whether he still intends to retire. It’s certainly not because he wants to hold the team hostage for any reason. Could it be that he & TD are in the process of working things out to insure his return, and they don’t want to announce anything until every detail has been worked out? At this point, he might be closer to 95% than 5%.
His return would either allow us to draft his replacement in a lower rd, or wait until next yr. Either way, we shouldn’t overlook the CCoffman possibility, which every sports writer seems to be doing in determing who we’ll draft 1st or 2nd.
I see us bringing in 1 major FA. Will it be a starting DE, RG, or TE? How many TEs will be available when we pick in the 2nd rd that can offer more than CCoffman, who’s already on the roster? I’m all for drafting a pass rushing LB with our 1st pick. It would help solve our LB & pass rushing issues simultaneously.
Bierman has been a decent starting DE. We need to decide which of our other DEs, out of Massaquoi, Sidbury & Mathews, is the best candidate to be groomed as a pass rushing specialist. Something is very wrong when we have the NFLs top active pass rusher in career sacks as a mentor, and we can’t come up with one out of 4 young DEs that’s effective at rushing he passer.
With the quickness & athleticism of Mathews, Sidbury & Massaquoi, it’s hard to believe it’s due to a lack of ability. It’s hard to develop pass rushing skills while buried on Special teams & getting very limited to no gm snaps. We need to start making committments to these young players rather than excuses.
And that committment starts with giving each DE a chance to play in gm situations where their talents & abilities are needed, like 3rd down passing situations. Hell, we did it for 1.5yrs with REdwards with no measureable results. It’s time to take a chance on the future & roll the dice.
We need to do this even if we decide to draft a DE with our 1st pick. That pick would actually represent JAbrahams replacement rather than a compliment to him at LDE. We’ll still need a starting LDE once Abe is gone or becomes injuried.
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
9:48 am
Good Friday Morning Cage,
Just to get things started, let me go back to the previous block (offense) for a moment. First, thanks for the kind thoughts about the TeePee’s suggestion that RW84 move to the slot and Drew Davis be given the chance to blossom and play the outside WR position opposite JJ11. I truly feel that Davis and Coffman could be very effective in this scheme and it would definately get us younger and more dynamic going forward. Key point – going forward.
Which brings me to my next point. The TG88 saga.
Let me be clear. I love what TG88 has done for the Falcons. I REALLY love to look closely at October (if you have not had the pleasure, you MISSED one of life’s best moments). TG88 has been the ultimate pro, a locker room presence that few can match, and a source of reliance for MR2. I am anxious to stand before his bust one day when I visit Canton.
But, IMHO, it is time for the Falcons to move on. If the TE of the future is, as we are lead to believe, on the roster now, WHY are we stalling in making sure that the young man is in fact THE FUTURE. Why, given the apparent issues we have with a salary cap that is close to being maxed out, with the CLEAR need to make adjustments on defense, fix the defense, strengthen the defense; why are we going to take CRITICALLY needed money and retain TG88. If the team was uner the cap in the way some other teams are (Tampa, Miami), I would be all for this. But there are GREATER needs to be filled.
Sure, I hear all the chatter about releasing Turner, Abe, Babs, Robinson, etc. In several cases, I am on board. But it appears that the move to retain TG88 is more about appeasing the fan base given that we are, IMHO, going to be forced to make some very unpopular and hard choices.
TG88 is an asset. No denial on that point. But he is also not a defensive player. It was the shortcomings in defensive scheme, MORE THAN ANYTHING, that failed the Falcons in the playoffs. Say what you will about turnovers and the like but the INABILITY to contain and cover the middle of the field, the intermediate routes, and tight ends CRUSHED the Atlanta Falcons. That is simple fact.
And there is nothing, NOTHING, that retaining TG88 can do to correct that situation.
Move on. Let the TE of the future ascend to his place. And let’s place TG88 in his place in Falcons history. The TeePee says thanks to TG88 and continues to adore October.
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
9:50 am
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1528934-the-best-bargain-nfl-free-agent-available-at-every-position/page/10
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
9:54 am
Curious nugget.
Alabama is supposedly considering offering its OL coaching job to Pat Hill. Hill has connections to Saban and hold Saban in very high regard; a bond and connection that goes back to the ’90s. Keep an eye on this. Things could get interesting if he decides to go.
The TeePee certainly hopes (and feels) that he will remain in ATL.
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
10:08 am
SW
Call me crazy and I do agree with your post about our TE . But it would not surprise me if Tony G were once again in a Falcon uniform this up and coming season . If so I still think that there will be one picked up in the draft ( if a good one is available ) and put under his wing . I just have a feeling tho that TG may be back for a few reasons
One . To have one more chance at that Ring and the What if’s in his mind
Two . A Media thing . Like Ray Lewis had . Which may go a long way for the team
Three . He is still a top 5 TE in the NFL and healthy
Just some thoughts that are in my head 84 brother.
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
10:09 am
K Strick
I can understand where you are coming from. As you recall, we were once on opposite sides of the debate when it came to Lamar Holmes. I admitted that it was more a personal pride thing, wanting one of my Seminoles in the mix. I have come around though and want to see what the young man can do at tackle.
However, I want to see what he can do at the RIGHT tackle position. First, it would allow us to move Clabo inside, providing a veteran presence as well as stability for that critical right guard position.
Second, assuming the tackle position would give Holmes the opportunity to grow in the system and discover what his true capabilities are. How effective is he in pass coverage? What is his skill set in run blocking? Sure, he is big. But there is so much we do not know about him.
I would like to see a battle between Holmes and Reynolds at right tackle. Two young lions, getting a chance to show “natural” abilty at their true position, tackle. That is what the TeePee wants.
I think that Baker will return at left tackle. He played well this past season and like you, if he is truly healthy for the first time in a long time, he is worth the re-sign. And he will come cheap. Svitek adds depth and should be retained.
No OL players on the TeePee radar at this time but that could change after the staff and I return from Indy and the Combine.
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
10:13 am
Birdman, I can see where each point made has merit. And right now, PR is the name of the game with the Falcons.
They are catching hell from several fronts. Fans are upset that we came up short in the title game. Fans are upset about this stadium proposal. So the Falcons need to get the fans fired up again. My season ticket rep told me that renewals were slower this season than this time last year. If that is the case, and the unrest is like most sense, they need to energize the base.
TG88 does that with ease. All Falcon fans can easily rally around him because he is class of the highest order. And October is grace of unparallelled measure.
Paddy O
February 15th, 2013
10:24 am
We did a good job against Wilson – using Nicholas as a spy/ containment guy. The failure was, they simply handed off. We really needed a “trailer” for the spy – so when the QB handed off, there was somebody to maintain gap integrity. I’d really prefer us to collect MORE S/CB guys – with fast TE’s like Vernon Davis, the average LB won’t be able to cover him. I m exceptionally happy that SW is advocating for 2 LB’s in this draft. And, I still think we switch more to 3-4 – thus, the 1st Rd guy MUST be a gigantic nose tackle. Then, LB, RB, LB again, then S and CB. We really do need a super fast RB who can leap and catch passes – he would become our kick returner. I think we really should have kept Jenkins – he would have been the perfect slot receiver.
Paddy O
February 15th, 2013
10:26 am
SW – if the Falcons fund 100% of a new stadium – they can do it anytime and anywhere. It THAT fashion, the Falcons would actually be paying PROPERTY TAX on their stadium. that is a good benefit for any local gov’t. If public funding – zero state funding. If the local gov’t is that desperate, let them fund it. Gwinnett is having problems now paying off their minor league stadium.
Paddy O
February 15th, 2013
10:28 am
Tony G is the best option at TE. If he comes back, no brainer – you keep him and keep your offense flying.
Paddy O
February 15th, 2013
10:30 am
We have quite a few guys who could play S – Dunta and Chris owens come to mind – Owens appears to be the fastest guy on the team. I’d really love to replace Decoud – or use Decoud as the nickel guy. HOwever you slice it,we are weak in depth at S/CB.
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
10:37 am
Paddy O
Thanks. I think that the two linebacker solution is critical. We need both a new starter somewhere in the mix as well as improved depth at the position. Here is what we have right now; Weatherspoon, Dent, Nicholas, Peterson, and James. For the sake of discussion, we will ignor the last two. Pete is past his prime, offering nothing more than leadership at this time. And James, well, if he has not cracked the lineup by now, at least at WLB, what the hell are we holding on to him for.
The two guys that the TeePee has extensively watched and evaluated are Chase Thomas and Khaseem Greene. I love them both!! Sure they have a few flaws to their games BUT they could be major upgrades to the linebacker corps. But first and foremost, we need to find a QUALITY LB coach for the Falcons. Glenn Pires sucks!! Plain and simple. Our LBs seems undisciplined, out of position too darn much, and significantly inferior in zone reads and coverage.
Thomas and Greene are playmakers. Both have better coverage skills than any linebacker on the squad not named Weatherspoon. Both are very solid against the rush. Both are quality blitzers. Greene could come in and start TODAY at WLB and be a force.
I am as sold on Greene and Thomas as I was on Mason Foster a few years back and they are just a level below what I held for Spoon when I lead the cries for his selection a few years back.
Another nugget that the TeePee is looking at with Greene is that he is a converted safety that moved to the OLB position. So he TRULY understands coverage and if we were to lose more, then it is a very strong possibility that we could move him back to the SS position where he excelled before his shift to WLB at Rutgers.
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
10:43 am
Let Grimes go and keep Moore
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
10:46 am
Another experiment that I would like.
What if I could give the Falcons a 6′2, 195 pounds physical cornerback? He, at times has been a ball hawk, but is a little stuck on himself. When focused, he can ball but keeping that focus can be an issue at times. And what if I told you he is ALREADY on the roster?
After watching Richard Sherman of the Seahawks, I came to the conclusion that we have a similiar talent on the Falcons that I think could be effective at cornerback IF the Falcons were bold enough to move him there. Thomas DeCoud.
DeCoud has played each position in the secondary and I think he could make the transition. He is bigger than either Robinson or Samuel and just as physical. And he is solid against the run.
What do we have to loose? And he is already under contract for MUCH less than either Samuel, Grimes, or Robinson (younger too).
This move also allows us to get Charles Mitchell on the field at the free safety position ahead of schedule where I think he could be an asset. And again, adding Greene in the draft will give us the chance to move him back to either saety position where he has a resume.
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
10:48 am
I would love to keep Moore…no doubt about that. But I want to get more physical in the secondary and improve coverage skills. The same is my policy with the linebackers.
Unca' Bob
February 15th, 2013
10:48 am
SeminoleWarrior,
I’ve had my eye on K Greene as well. A fomer Safety, with good foot speed and peddle he could be a play maker at the SAM. Very able to cover TE’s and has no fear when making a tackle.
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
10:48 am
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/d9HTs?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl
Here it is Guy’s
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
10:53 am
My proposal would also allow the flexibility to move Moore from SS to FS, where he excelled at Mizzou, and then plug the run stuffing Mitchell into the SS position.
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
10:56 am
UB,
I love Greene. He is a player and a first class kid. He is a lock on mny draft board. And I agree, he could be a factor at SLB or WLB.
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
11:00 am
Good article about 2 of our Men
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1530404-setting-the-odds-for-the-most-likely-nfl-holdouts/page/2
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
11:21 am
Ohh my US84 brother……
Birdman, this is EXACTLY one of the scenarios we saw last year when we started talking about future cap hell.
Weatherspoon is an emerging star and he will soon command IMMEDIATE attention. He is a fiercely loyal and I do not think he would hold out. But the Falcons have to get a deal done sooner rather than later.
As I stated this time last year, the Falcons blew it last year when they did not initiate the move to lock up MR2 long term. I know he still had two years on his deal but this season really raised his stock. And imagine what he would command if he had won the NFC title or the Super Bowl. Dude is a winner no matter what the asses on NFL Network and ESPN say. He and Bart are the BEST QBs that have ever, EVER worn Falcon colors….period!!
One more for you to look ahead too. And he is going to get his as well. Julio Jones. His new deal is going to be a damned good one. Trust me….he CAN not be allowed to even sniff free agency!!
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
11:23 am
But this leads me back to my disconnect premise. With the future of your team coming into focus as far as long term deal negotiations, why are we still holding on to excessive contracts and seeking to retain veterans when it is clear that the future rests in the young studs we have in Jones, Ryan, and Weatherspoon.
Somebody better recognize…..
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
11:27 am
Amen to that .SW
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
11:27 am
Weatherspoon: He signed a five-year contract worth $17.5 million on July 29, 2010
Jones came to terms with the Falcons on July 28, 2011, signing a four-year contract worth $16.2 million, all of which was guaranteed.
Ryan: Signed a six-year contract on May 20, 2008. The contract had an overall value of $72 million and contained $34.75 million in guaranteed money.
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
11:30 am
Tell me..if this does not make you nervous, what does?
Who do you tag if it comes to that point? Weatherspoon or Jones.
Again, somebody better recognize and stop worrying about that damned stadium!!
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
11:31 am
What kind of Money do you think the Spoon will be looking to get SW
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
11:35 am
Yeh I agree what good is a stadium without these kind of players to help fill the dang thing
It’s like a Church the people are the Church not the Building
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
11:36 am
Birdman,
I am projecting something in the area of five or six year, 45-60 million for both Spoon and JJ11. Both will be guaranteed at least 50% of their respective deals.
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
11:37 am
Thanks Man
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
11:44 am
No problem my brother.
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
11:48 am
Well its time to go do my honey do’s . While on my week off . Sweet gum balls in the yard . I hate sweet gum balls .
But I am blessed to have them . Cage have a blessed day !!
Be back later on
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
11:48 am
Excuse me Cage while my brother and I reflect…..
Birdman, speaking of US 84, how about the history made in my beloved Thomasville this week.
After 100 years, the proud football tradition that is Thomasville High School, one of the winningest progams in the state of Georgia, has finally hired a minority head football coach. Birdman, you know how important football is down south, especially along US Highway 84. This moment is truly one that is best described in the following..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbO2_077ixs
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
11:49 am
Later, my brother. See you on the other side.
Birdman
February 15th, 2013
12:01 pm
SW
I had one last look before I took on my task in the yard.
I am so proud of this move . I wish him and I Pray he has a super carrier .
We are ALL the same in the eye’s of the one who matter’s most.
One Nation Under GOD !!!
Thanks Seminole Warrior .
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
12:10 pm
No problem. As you know, along 84, we are one!!
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
12:52 pm
SW – if the Falcons fund 100% of a new stadium – they can do it anytime and anywhere. It THAT fashion, the Falcons would actually be paying PROPERTY TAX on their stadium. that is a good benefit for any local gov’t. If public funding – zero state funding. If the local gov’t is that desperate, let them fund it. Gwinnett is having problems now paying off their minor league stadium….Paddy O
Totally agree with you. Mayor Reed can talk all the smack he wants to about this deal but it is not in the best interest of core ATL. I think Schultz summarized it best over in his latest posting..
These so-called projected revenues from all these taxes have never materialized and they never will. If they had, Washington and ATL would have had balanced budgets a long time ago and cuts would not be needed to critical entities like education, health care, and public safety.
SeminoleWarrior
February 15th, 2013
12:57 pm
Breaking right early. A critical meeting today on what could possibly happen to us federal employee as this sequester proposal moves closer to the March 1st deadline.
Looks like Congress and Barack Bush/George Obama are going to do it to us all. Heed this warning though….
Today, it is federal employees and the Department of Defense. But trust me, the tide is going to shift and when it does, look out. Pain….pain will be felt.
See you all on the other side.
Wings
February 15th, 2013
1:04 pm
SW – “But this leads me back to my disconnect premise. With the future of your team coming into focus as far as long term deal negotiations, why are we still holding on to excessive contracts and seeking to retain veterans when it is clear that the future rests in the young studs we have in Jones, Ryan, and Weatherspoon.
Somebody better recognize…..”
EXACTLY SW!!! REALITY is getting ready to KNOCK on the door of the CFA.
We have not been able to advance to the Super Bowl with them in past years so how can the FO believe they can play better with them in 2013.
Fan from '66
February 15th, 2013
2:04 pm
Two things are required for the falcons to have a reasonable chance to be successful in 2013. We must have a dependable third down (and red zone) receiver who you know will get open and catch the ball to replace Gonzo. It doesn’t have to be a tight end, it could be a slot receiver, not Harry Douglas, but possibly Kerry Meir or someone like Danny Amenola (sp). That could be the biggest difference in winning or losing three or four close games next season secondly, We must improve the pass rush on defense. That will be the hardest thing to accomplish. Our defensive line is so lacking in pass rushing talent that it may take several years to significantly improve through the draft due to our late draft position. Unfortunately, we are so strapped with dead money owing to signing bonuses owed to free agents that we signed who are not contributing as expected that we can’t be players in the free agent market. Edwards, Turner and Robinson eat up close to 10 million dollars in garaunteed bonus money that could have been used to get help. That does no count salaries. Turner and Robinson are not worth keeping at their present salaries, but even if cut as they should be, they will continue to hurt us financially. After this year Turner’s signing bonus money ends. I am not sure about the other two. Since we can’t get the top free agents that would help us leap that final hurdle to the super bowl, it is absolutely necessary that we draft the best available players and not make any mistakes in drafting or free agency, in order to keep this aging team from falling off the wall in a year or two like San Fran did a decade ago. We have a top notch quarterback for at least the next five years and if we can build a solid defense and keep our offense in tact we can be competitive throughout that time. If we just try to fill immediate needs through high draft choices instead of getting the best players available, we risk becoming a mediocre team for many years again. If a top notch defensive player is available when we pick we should take him. If not, then taking a top rated tight end, running back or offensive lineman, whichever is the best player would make sense. We must keep replenishing this team with top talent through the draft and hope to fill current needs while doing so, but streesing talent or immediate needs. That is the only way to remain competitive in the long run.
Ken Strickland
February 15th, 2013
3:51 pm
SEMINOLE WARRIOR-With so little OT depth, we are almost forced to resign Svitek. After all, we have former OT GReynolds playing OG & former OG MJohnson playing OT. We also have former OCs Konz & Hawley playing OG as well. That’s not cross training, that’s just plain rediculous to me.
Do you realize we have former OTs Blalock & Reynolds, former OCs Hawley & Konz, plus Manley & Jackson playing OG while former OG Johnson is our only backup OT. How can we still have issues at RG with 6 candidates to choose from & only 2 backups at OT(Holmes & Johnson).
There’s something seriously wrong with this picture. With the documented injury problems Baker’s had throughout his career, we definitely need a starting caliber LT candidate like Svitek on the roster.
Big Ray
February 15th, 2013
4:09 pm
I actually think the pursuit of Tony G is more about a certain HC and starting QB than it is about the fan base. Seriously.
Tony G is a near infallible security blanket (and still a matchup problem for most teams). Ryan would hate to lose that, but you have to grow and move on. That applies to Ryan (and Smitty) as much as it does to anyone else. More so, in fact.
It doesn’t help that Ryan probably doesn’t trust HD and is still not quite there with Julio (but we’re so close with that relationship). So basically, he has to continue trusting Quizz (who is earning it) and then find someone else to trust. Chase Coffman and Drew Davis are guys who are going to have to earn it, but guess what? Ryan has to give it at the same time.
Grow up and move on. It’s not about what do you have to do to keep TG…it’s about what are you going to do to stay strong and get even better if he doesn’t come back? That should be the true focus…but I fear that it is not. I hope my fear is misplaced.
Matty Bicep
February 15th, 2013
5:29 pm
BR, now, you accuse me of saying stuff that is “out there”….c’mon man!