Atlanta Falcons Fall Short in Super Bowl Bid
Second Half Collapse Finally Dooms
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Sure, it was a good year and it will be an even tougher road back for many fans after this one had the feeling that it could finally be “the year,” but alas it was not in the cards yet again. It was a good year that saw the Falcons starting to take a step further and they did finally rid themselves of the playoff albatross (although no one really cares about that now). Even though it may seem as though it’s the end of the world, it really isn’t. There are a ton of teams that would gladly trade places with our current franchise in being competitive every year and giving themselves a chance every season. It should be acknowledged that this regime has reached heights never before seen in it’s history (they only had back-to-back winning seasons back in 2008 and 2009). But it should be a wakeup call to everyone involved, including Arthur Blank, that changes will need to be made and all apart of the Falcons organization will have to work even harder to finally get to that next level. A look at the game and a peek ahead to the off-season……..
Total Team Loss
Total Team Loss, Not All Ryan (AJC)
The sensationalist, craven writer and pundit crowd have been waiting for this moment since the kickoff of the 2012 NFL season. Most writers love nothing more than to beat up on a franchise with a terrible history and a known penchant for falling short. The biggest line that is out there is that it’s all Matt Ryan’s fault and he’ll never win the big, never win a Super Bowl, he regularly plays the Grinch at Christmas, and is solely responsible for everything wrong in the world. Sure, he picked a bad time to make a fumble and threw an interception in the second half, even though Roddy White took full responsibility for tripping and that’s exactly what happened on replay. The fact is that this was a complete team loss from top to bottom, including General Manager Thomas Dimitroff as well.
All involved are to blame. The coaches got outcoached halfway into the 2nd quarter and completely overwhelmed in the second half. There literally seemed to be no adjustments to either side after their initial schemes were figured out. The defense had another epic failure, having no answer for really any of the offensive players, particularly Vernon Davis. Seems like the TE was an issue in the Seattle game also, right? The running game stalled. The play-calling became more predictable and less aggressive. Julio Jones was dominant, only to never to be seen from in second half. Roddy White trips on a route, leading to an interception. Harry Douglas trips on a wide open route that would have seen him walk into the endzone. The defense was exposed as being weak and the largest indictment on this regime of all, lack of pass rush, was finally taken advantage of.
Emotional Loss (AJC)
And yes, Matt Ryan isn’t doing himself any favors with his mistakes in the postseason, but in case you haven’t noticed, even the super-elite QBs (Brady, Manning, Rodgers) couldn’t do it all by themselves this year either. There was a reason that the vast majority of pundits picked the Niners, because in almost all aspects save quarterback and wide receiver, the 49ers had better players and more depth. Still, after finding a way to win at the end, the Falcons found a way to lose. It’s not the end of the world, but the Falcons have some big, and perhaps painful, decisions to make if they want to take the whole thing.
Defensive Epic Fail
Yes, there were two second half turnovers and a stall in the red zone to end the game, but as fellow Cage Member Coop said, being up 17-0 in the first half, playing at home with the crowd going nuts, and allowing the Niners to literally do whatever they want for 3 quarters has epic fail written all over it. In was a mirror repeat of the Seattle game where once the defense seemed to be “figured out” there were no answer to be had. The only problem was that instead of one quarter against the Seahawks, it was essentially 3 quarters vs. a more talented and battle-hardened team in the 49ers. The easy and obvious place to go is to Mike Nolan as defensive coordinator. He’s the one designing the scheme and calling the plays, so he gets much deserved criticism and rightly so.
Mike Smith gets some as well for being a defensive minded head coach working with an excellent DC, only to get completely exposed two weeks in a row on defense. The defensive players get some blame too. There was literally no pass rush (see below) and a less-than 100% John Abraham wasn’t to be found. Of course no one assisted him whatsoever in rushing the passer, but what else is new. The defensive tackles weren’t good either after doing a decent job of keeping Frank Gore and Colin Kaepernick in check early on. They, along with the linebackers, allowed the Niners run game to get on track somewhat and it opened up the pass. Speaking of the linebackers, they were terrible in coverage all night. Coverage was atrocious including all cornerbacks and safeties. Kaepernick had a great second half, but the receivers were so wide open that a high school QB may have completed them.
Tough Way for Gonzo to End It (AJC)
The net was cast wide and far, this was a defensive collapse from top to bottom. Frankly, you don’t deserve to win any championships when you play defense that poorly. Last but not least, Thomas Dimitroff deserves some blame as well. We can talk about schemes and missed assignments all day long, but it was painfully obvious in the second half that this defense simply was overmatched personnel wise, especially along the defensive line. He’s missed on some draft picks on defense and will have to find a way to rectify it both through the draft and free agency if the Falcons will ever take the last step.
Motivation or Nose Dive Ahead?
The Falcons can take some solace in looking at the team that just beat them to advance to the Super Bowl. The 49ers hosted the Giants just last year and came up just short in their bid to go to the big dance right at the end. They dedicated themselves to pushing through, building themselves up during the regular season vs. good opponents, making some moves in free agency, and using that experience to push down that final barrier. The same can be said of the Packers when they lost the NFC championship at home in 2007 in OT. 3 years later, they were Champs. The Eagles actually lost three straight NFC Title games (two of them at home) before they finally went to the Super Bowl, albeit falling short. Maybe those teams made tweaks, maybe they made overhauls, but they fixed what went wrong in the NFC Title game.
Will Falcons Learn from Niners? (AJC)
This will be discussed at length from now to free agency to the draft and training camp, but the Falcons do have some serious, and perhaps painful decisions to make. The question is whether they have the willpower to make those decisions, which has a mixed history at best the past 4 off-seasons. The opposite is obviously also possible as well. If the Dimitroff, Smith, and Co. feel as though they don’t need to make many fixes and were just a play away from the big dance or make the wrong choices than they could be in for a nosedive. The Bears, Cardinals, Eagles, and Seahawks are all examples of teams that were one game away from the Super Bowl and either did too much, didn’t do enough, or simply made the wrong choices and fell back to playoff obscurity. Coincidentally, all four teams got rid of their coaches soon thereafter.
Wide Indictment on Pass Rush
Every single person associated with the Falcons defensive side of the ball deserves blame on this one, save John Abraham. For the past five years, no one in the organization has been able to muster ANY pass rush whatsoever other than Abraham. That is simply inexcusable on all levels. Thomas Dimitroff and Mike Smith deserve the most blame because, ultimately, they’re the heads of the ship. Dimitroff has drafted Lawrence Sidbury, Peria Jerry, Jonathan Massaquoi, Cliff Matthews, Travian Roberston, and signed Ray Edwards. Rich McKay isn’t absolved either because the Jamaal Anderson pick at #8 overall set this franchise back years. Dimtroff may have the best intentions and picks skill players pretty well, but he has been abysmal on both sides of the trenches. Matthews and Massaquoi have shown some potential, but that hasn’t translated into results. Which leads into the next point.
Tough Day, but Good Ones Ahead (AJC)
If Dimitroff has failed at drafting defensive lineman, than Mike Smith has failed equally bad with his “Witness Protection Program” (see below). It would be one thing if every single defensive linemen drafted by Dimitroff showed absolutely no potential whatsoever, but that simply isn’t the case either. Sidbury showed some flashes in his very limited time as a Falcon (seemingly coming to an end). They can’t figure out what to do with Kroy Biermann and is a little too light for an every down DE. Robertson showed flashes during preseason only to never be heard from again. Matthews and Massaquoi never saw the field until Abraham got hurt and that’s only a handful examples. They have drafted extremely light defensive tackles that never draw double teams and allow every DE drafted to not see single coverage blocking and only
The fact remains that whatever the issue, the Falcons have failed miserably at all levels to address the pass rush situation. The defensive coordinators have been part of the problem, but they haven’t had a ton to work with for whatever reason. Nolan did a pretty good job early on to generate a pass rush, only to see it submarine yet again towards the end and in the playoffs. If the Falcons organization can’t find some way, any way, to fix it than the Falcons will either be in for a bad year or will not take the next step anyway.
Complete-Game Fatal Flaw
Tony's Great Run in Atlanta (AJC)
This one goes to no one other than Falcons Head Coach Mike Smith. We can talk about the coordinators, schemes, players, and personnel all day long, but the truth is that this is Smith’s problem and his alone. The Falcons have long been good for a quarter, a half, or even 3 quarters, but just cannot find ways to put teams away. Sure enough, it came back to finally bite them big time at the worst moment imaginable. Fans knew it was just a matter of time. It’s true that sometimes the ball doesn’t bounce your way and other times teams make good adjustments, but this is not only a trend, but an every game certainty. There was one exception with the Giants shutout, but that was about the only one in memory of the last five years.
Some refer to it as a killer instinct. That’s a part of it for sure. Smith has presided over teams with two different sets of coordinators that exemplify the exact same thing of letting teams back in the game. Most times Smith has found a way to win anyway, but that luck finally ran out in the playoffs, as many thought it would. Many times its becoming hyper-conservative with a decent lead. Others it’s trying to run out the clock and others it’s just becoming undisciplined and tensing up. If Smith can somehow find a way to fix this, it could be the final piece in getting over the hump. If he can’t, he might be looking for a new job in the near future.
Can Falcons Make the Needed Changes?
Plenty of Long Faces (AJC)
The Falcons and Mike Smith could take a cue from Jim Harbaugh, whose on his way to his first Super Bowl. Harbaugh took a lot of heat for changing quarterbacks very late into the season and it’s paid off. Meanwhile, Smith and Co. either can’t make the tough decisions or their changes are at a glacial pace. This will obviously be discussed a ton over the next several months, but there there is some doubt that Smith and, to a lesser extent, Dimitroff that they are unable or unwilling to make the needed changes necessary to take the Falcons to the next level. And Arthur Blank needs to be honest about what he wants as well. He pronounces that only championships will be accepted, but the cold fact is that Mike Smith has led a franchise out of the abyss, but also is 1-4 in the playoffs, has been the #1 seed in the NFC two out of three years, and has yet to grace the Super Bowl. Is Blank prepared to make a hard decision himself if the Falcons have hit a plateau?
“Witness Protection” Must Go
Fellow Cage Member Big Ray came up with one of the most poignant, and funny, descriptions of Mike Smith’s Player Development System: Witness Protection Program. Their inability to develop draft picks and get them meaningful playing time is deftly abhorrent. Maybe it’s all on Thomas Dimitroff for drafting poorly, but when fans see players do well at training camp in Flowery Branch and in preseason only never to be seen or heard from again, it’s supremely frustrating. On the surface, it seems that it’s simply Smith’s conservative nature taking hold in every aspect of this team. The list is infinite on seeing potential and never to be seen again: Antone Smith, Drew Davis, Kevin Cone, Lawrence Sidbury, Chris Owens, Dominique Franks, Travian Robertson, Mike Johnson, Lamar Holmes, Dominque Davis, Kerry Meier, Jonathan Massaquoi, Cliff Matthews, Charles Mitchell, and there’s likely plenty more.
Major Changes Needed on D (AJC)
Some of these listed maybe unfair since they were likely just bad picks (Johnson), but others have shown flashes and never seen the field. Not only that, but other players must “wait their turn” and be an apprentice before earning their chance (DeCoud, Moore) or only seeing the field when someone gets hurt (Peter Konz, Matthews, Massaquoi). This is not saying that these players would have necessarily made a difference in the grand scheme of things, but unless you’re a 1st round draft pick, you’re likely to be placed firmly in the Witness Protection Program. As Big Ray has said many times, either keep them, develop them, and let them play or cut them loose.
Full Scale Audit Needed
There can’t be that many things wrong with a team that goes 13-3, gets the #1 seed in the NFC, and is only a play or two away from going to the Super Bowl, right? Well, they had to do something right, but at the same time, his team has some major areas to address in the off-season and it will take an honest, objective, and sometimes difficult look at every single aspect of this team. Successful organizations do it on a regular basis and this is no different. The Falcons are seemingly good in several areas including quarterback, wide receiver, maybe safety, and perhaps cornerback. Even in those areas, the window is either quickly closing (Roddy White, Asante Samuel, Dunta Robinson over 30) or needs another look (is Harry Douglas a legitimate slot receiver? How big of a contract should Ryan get? What happed to the safeties in playoffs?). Those are the best case scenarios. The others, not so much.
One of like 3 Good Plays on D (AJC)
Like mentioned several times above, this will get a long and detailed look in the off-season, but everything else is up for debate. Defensive tackle needs a major overhaul. The Falcons must do something, anything, to solve the defensive end problems. The linebackers, once thought to be a strong area, looked awful in the playoffs. The offensive line played well in the playoffs, but weren’t a Super Bowl caliber unit in the regular season and needs some strength, youth, beef, and overall change to the unit. The running back situation is one of the biggest areas of need. Tony Gonzalez is likely retiring and leaving an enormous void on offense. Punt returner was a joke the entire season and the list goes on and on. Some areas may need tweaks, while others will require major overhauls, and still others will face difficult and sometimes painful decisions. This has been a great run for this franchise, the best in it’s history, but loyalties cannot get in the way of finding the best 53 man roster to make another run, especially on defense. This looks to be the most critical of all the off-seasons to date, seeing the Falcons getting so close, but now looking so far away if some things aren’t fixed in a major way.
First Window Closing
We’ve discussed this before in The Cage many times the past several seasons in that the Falcons are reaching one part of a phase where the window is closing for many players that have helped to reach this level of success. Tony Gonzalez is likely retiring. Todd McClure will be 36 in February. Roddy White will be 32 next November. Asante Samuel just turned 32. John Abraham will be 35 in May. Dunta Robinson will be 31 in April. Jonathan Babineaux will be 32 in October. Michael Turner will be 31 in February. The list goes on and on.
Turner's Last Game? (AJC)
This is not to say that the Falcons don’t have a few good years left and some (White, Samuel) have shown no signs of decline while most of the others have. Will the Falcons organization try to go piecemeal and only tinker for one more year or will they make some fairly dramatic changes to set themselves up for the future? It would be tempting to go with the former, but the Falcons are at a point where some major changes are needed in certain areas. This will be a big point in the off-season.
MTV Sports Detox May Help
If you are masochist or glutton for punishment than this is your Christmas and Birthday all wrapped into one. You won’t have to venture very far to see that there are literally hundreds of hatchet jobs, gleeful revenge, “I told you so’s,” and “Same Old Falcons” as an ESPN writer said. Matt Ryan is the worst QB to ever grace the playoffs. This is worst franchise to ever play professional sports and should be burned at the stake for even attempting to win. They should have gone 3-13 like those true “same old Falcons.”
Sure, some of the points they make are valid and some major questions will take hold this off-season and some major weaknesses must be addressed, but these are the times why most Falcons fans (and many non-darling team fans) despise national, sensationalistic, and even sometimes, downright hateful sports media. The fact is, these AREN’T the same old Falcons. This regime hasn’t taken the final step, but it has pulled a broken and historically terrible franchise from the ashes to being an annual contender. They completed back-to-back winning seasons for the first time in it’s 40+ year history. They have made the playoffs 4 out of 5 years. They are only second to the New England Patriots in regular season wins (who, by the way, aren’t doing that great themselves in the posteason lately). They finally won a playoff game after everyone said they couldn’t and were a play away from going to the Super Bowl. Sure, this sounds like complete justification and rationalization and, to an extent, it is.
Great Game by JJ (AJC)
The Falcons haven’t figured out how to get over the final hump and Mike Smith and Co. will start entering a much more critical mode this off-season and coming regular season. And if they don’t make certain fixes and tough decisions they could slip right back into mediocrity, but they aren’t those “same old Falcons.” Those would be the ones that never even sniff the playoffs. This is a long-winded way of saying that getting rid of the hateful, virile, infantile, and sensationalistic national sports media may help getting past this loss.
Some great resources Atlanta Falcons news instead of biased, Entertainment Sports News:
http://www.thefalcoholic.com
http://bloggingdirty.com
http://falconsgab.com
http://gritsblitz.com
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JB Falcon
January 21st, 2013
6:29 pm
Well, my picture didn’t show up.
Saints R.E.A.M.
January 21st, 2013
6:32 pm
Nice season guys….you will be back.
falcon21
January 21st, 2013
6:33 pm
Same here JB.
D3
January 21st, 2013
6:38 pm
Try it now guys, it should work.
Paddy O
January 21st, 2013
6:42 pm
this is way too negative. we could have won. as stated, the Ryan snap fumble is the key odd/out of character play that ultimately cost us the game. Plus, playing zone – whose idea do we think that was? We SUCK at zone coverage – did under BVG – saw NO difference with Nolan. We still do phantom hand offs. I liked Nolan’s earlier coverage where we only had a couple of LB’s and a slew of nickel guys. We could have won. We are an elite team.
Paddy O
January 21st, 2013
6:44 pm
I thought Nicholas did not play that well. WE appeared to miss curtis lofton in run support -and we got zero extra benefit out of pass protection. but, we could have won. that is really all you can ask for.
Paddy O
January 21st, 2013
6:48 pm
I’m hopeful we get another 3 years out of Roddy; and still hope Tony G can be coaxed into a return. We need a kick returner – I thought letting Weems go was a bad idea, and our problem the whole season seems to reinforce it. I still think DeCoud is too erratic – and for a safety – he has LOUSY tackling habits. I’d like to see us sign ANOTHER CB – grimes, if he can still play – and move Dunta to safety. Moore still seems injury prone. We MUST draft a fast LB – MIke Pete is just about done. I still like our line – especially with the guys in the apprentice program. We need a RB upgrade – or simply hand it over to Quizz/Snelling. It will be an interesting off season – but, TD usually handles this well.
Wabe
January 21st, 2013
6:53 pm
Ok, so I said I’d reserve judgment on Mike Smith until after the season, and I got something I need to get off my chest…
I think, at this point, it’s evident, that if the Falcons do win a Superbowl with Mike Smith, it will be in spite of Mike Smith. That’s right, in spite of him. This team will win more so because of the talent of the team than on anything that Mike Smith brings to the table. I understand dude does some good things. I’m not saying he’s a complete bum. But, he’s not a transcendent type coach.
You look at Jim Harbaugh in SF or Sean Payton in NOLA, those teams have had the success they’ve had, and in large part due to what their coaches bring to the table. The Niners being in the Superbowl has a lot more to do with Jim Harbaugh and what he brought to that organization than it does on pure talent. I understand, they’re loaded with talent, but they were talented prior to his arrival. He’s doing it with a lot of the same pieces that were already in place prior to his arrival. The same applies for Sean Payton. Dude’s attitude and the intangibles he brings as a head coach have a lot to do with why they won the big game.
With Mike Smith, we’ve gradually surrounded him with more and more talent, only to constantly fall short. Now we’re talking about the lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball. I understand we’re not a juggernaut defense, but, it’s hard for me to believe that the Saints had that much more talent in their Superbowl run than we have here now. I thought the talent level was enough. We had more than enough. There’s simply something about Smitty that screams that he doesn’t got ”it”.
Just my 2 cents. Not even sure I made sense with what I said. But, to reiterate, if we ever win a big game, it’ll have more to do with the level of talent on our roster than what Smitty brings as a head coach.
cb795
January 21st, 2013
7:09 pm
Tough season coming next year, Falcons need play makers on the D side. Good draft and off season, Falcons should be around next year.
The Time is NOW
January 21st, 2013
7:11 pm
Thanks for the thought provoking read, D3. Your perspective has helped me enjoy this season more than the vast majority of seasons past. Thank you for all the time and hard work you put into making this blog what it is.
Thanks also to all the long time Cagers for your contributions. It has been fun hanging out with you.
The Time is NOW
January 21st, 2013
7:16 pm
Paddy O – you are right. We could have won. We should have won. We had enough talent to win it all. But we didn’t. We don’t have to rebuild from a disastrous season, but we do have to re-load. Today I am concerned about how much re-loading will be required for next season. Maybe its just the season ending loss blues. Probably time for me to take some time off from thinking about it.
JB Falcon
January 21st, 2013
7:16 pm
D3, I just tried to post a compliment and even went to the trouble to try to offer some ideas on the questions you brought up. Even though my answer required some foul language, I did not use any, and my hated friend, Mr. Blog Monster ate the whole thing. I truly hope he gets sick from eating the whole thing. BTW, the picture still didn’t show up.
The Time is NOW
January 21st, 2013
7:19 pm
JB – I haven’t seen the picture yet, either.
D3
January 21st, 2013
7:21 pm
Paddy — Not meant to be overly negative, but when you barely escape with a win vs. a team you’re playing at home after being up 20-0 and then blowing a 17-0 lead at home again and end up losing, there are problems that need to be addressed. It couldn’t have set up more perfectly than it did for us and we couldn’t get it done. I understand that we’re a fumble away, but it should have never gotten to that point. We had a chance to put the game with some distance and our defense was just atrocious. We can agree to disagree I guess.
Wabe — You make a d@mn fine point. I don’t think that’s irrational at all. That’s a very good assessment about the Saints D when they won it. They weren’t great, but they were opportunistic and they knew their strength (their O) and absolutely buried teams when they had the chance. Smith is to blame for that. This is Smitty’s put-up or shut-up year in my opinion, because I agree that TD is doing a good job, and give someone else a crack with this talent. Our first window (Abe, Roddy, Asante, etc) is quickly closing.
“I can’t go out like this” — Todd McClure. The quote that waynester put from the last blog is a perfect start to this postseason and determine whether we sink or swim, IMO. First, we all love Todd McClure and he’ll probably get a Ring of Honor banner, but it’s not up to him. Yeah, it sucks that we lost, especially in this manner, but McClure is turning 36 in a few weeks and showed major wear and tear, arguably the weakest link on the OL many times. I would say that he could come back as a backup, but we know what Smitty will do and that’s start him because it’s comfortable for Smith.
And that’s the crux that will define this off-season and, ultimately, 2013. Will the Falcons make changes that are needed to take the next step (such as getting bigger, stronger, and tougher on the OL) or will they make minor changes and expect a different result?
LRD
January 21st, 2013
7:22 pm
Standing in line at the Marta.. talking to a Niners fan, he stated to us that he was shocked at how good our Offense was. He was surprised how explosive they really were.. …
Now to me, thanks for the compliment for our team, but where was that explosiveness in the 2nd half?
But again, where was our D?
Wabe, see your point and kinda agreeing.. and i am sure that Blank will consider every option available..(and have feeling smitty aint going any where) As I was discussing with D3,who could you replace him with?
all the teams that didnt make the playoffs have gone after most of the talent out there…and I know, that Smitty was a darkhorse when he was picked.. but who would we go after?
D3 and Arno.. cant see the poster…
Birdman
January 21st, 2013
7:37 pm
Well its over for the season But our Birds went further than 29 other teams and I give them a Congratulation for that .
I wish they could have made it but not this time . Maybe next year.
Cage don’t be upset we went a lot further than some and we still have the draft . We may have 2 teams from the South next year because our Div is getting stronger all around .
Cage I lost my Dog last week she was 12 years old . A little lap Dog she was about 5 pounds and was always in my lap and by my side even when I was asleep. Never knew that a person could be so close to an animal but she was just like one of my own kids to me. If Snibbles had been alive she would have been there with me watching the Game . I truly miss her and I hope our Lord has a place for such a companion. She also was there with me when the Falcons played every game I watched until then . May sound silly to some of you but I miss her and loved her just the same
GO FALCONS 2013 !!!!
GOD BLESS ..
Arno
January 21st, 2013
7:38 pm
Here’s the image. It’s my thank-you note to D3 and everybody in the Cage.
http://www.thewrightsgallery.com/The_Cage.html
D3
January 21st, 2013
7:47 pm
Poster that Arno made should be working now guys.
JB Falcon
January 21st, 2013
7:47 pm
Good work Arno!
The Time is NOW
January 21st, 2013
7:50 pm
Great poster Arno!
LRD
January 21st, 2013
7:50 pm
Arno, that is awesome!!
The Time is NOW
January 21st, 2013
7:52 pm
Sorry for your loss Birdman. Companionship is a valuable experience.
78dawg
January 21st, 2013
7:59 pm
Smith is way too laid back with players…he needs to get some fire in his belly and make the underachievers step it up. As for TD…he makes really bad player personnel decisions and if I”m Blank he’d be the first out the door. He is in way over his head.
falcon21
January 21st, 2013
8:02 pm
Arno, that is sooo cool, good job man, thank you and thank you D3 for the job you do!!!
Matty Bicep
January 21st, 2013
8:07 pm
Bill Belchek said “There is no soft landing, it’s sudden, and it is over, for all but 1 team, the season ends in a thud, that is life in the NFL, onto next year”.
It sux, but we got to the top 4, got to go back and try again next year.
Kirk Turner
January 21st, 2013
8:08 pm
Wow! What a roller coaster ride this year! I never thought the Falcons were a dominant team, they clearly had issues all year, but I thought that somehow they would squeak past the Niners and get into the big game. I’ve been a fan for going on 44 years (went by fast too), and I have seen some AWFUL teams. I remember Randy Johnson, the Grits Blitz, Claude Humphrey – all those guys. But since the Smiths, thank God, sold the Falcons, they have been a solid team.
My opinion is that we are light on both lines. I think everywhere else we’re good with a few free agent pickups. I was shocked at how well the Oline protected Ryan against the Niners; I thought they would eat the Oline up. If you protect Ryan, he is world class, but once he gets hit, he gets squirrely.
The Dline was exposed a little. But they were facing a top-shelf run offense. We were torched mainly with the throws. Our dbacks, particularly Decoud, looked lost. Seems like they were never there contesting a reception, always showing up late in the chase position.
We are only a couple of moves away. A thick middle Dline guy, and most importantly, a big, fast linebacker would help. Lofton/Whitherspoon was MUCH BETTER than Witherspoon/Nicholas. We are weak there.
I just know I’m sick about them losing, and I hope that the Falcon’s brass will make the moves that are needed to make the Falcons the team they can be. They always talk about doing it for Tony or doing it for Abraham, and I’m fine with that. Tony Gonzales and John Abraham are the kind of guys we never used to get in Atlanta before. But how about doing it for the tens of thousands of guys like me who have supported the Falcons through more years than we care of admit, and have gotten very little in return? Blank is a winner, and he will force something. I know it.
All I know is that it is a long time to another Falcon’s kickoff; I was hoping for one more.
The Time is NOW
January 21st, 2013
8:13 pm
Good post, Kirk. Welcome to the Cage.
JJ
January 21st, 2013
8:18 pm
Thoughts on game: devestaded, way too emotional too put in words for now.
Arno, great job, need to add WR too it unless I missed it.
Birdman, sorry for your loss, many know of my dog Rocky n I cherish him more than anything.
Read several pet grief books when his brother dies a few yrs ago, made it only worse. Big believer in getting a new puppy whenever you can. God bless buddy.
Arno
January 21st, 2013
8:22 pm
Sorry WR– you’re behind the E in “the”
JJ
January 21st, 2013
8:24 pm
Time, was afraid smitty would hogtie D3.
Sure one of BR guys would have better result but in the end it wouldnt have mattered.
Biggest bonehead smitty move was playing starters in wk 17.
Wabe
January 21st, 2013
8:34 pm
D3,
Valid point on McClure too. I personally think he’ll be right back here again next season. I don’t see these guys being ambitious enough to just let him walk. And if he’s on the squad, best believe he’ll be playing the same role he is now.
Regarding the necessary upgrades, we know where we need the help, but how will the acquire the help needed? I don’t see us having any more talent next season when this time rolls around than we already have on the roster. We’ll have some additions and subtractions, but the overall makeup of the team will be pretty much the same. Both lines need work, but it’s hard to see us acquiring any talent in the draft that’ll really do much to instantly upgrade the play of our line. I just don’t see it. Those type of players are hard to come by, and anybody we do get will take time to really develop into the force that we need in the interiors of either line.
So again, I think we’re left back where we were this season. The only thing I see us acquiring really is depth. Picking up quality skill position players that can make an impact? Yeah, I definitely see us having the ability to do that. I think we can find us a back and possibly a TE through the draft that can be impactful immediately. But, unless they throw big money at a FA DT like Henry Melton or someone of that caliber, I don’t see us being all that much better on either side of the line than we already are. And, it’s hard for me to see us throwing big bucks at an impactful linemen after striking out with Ray Edwards.
Birdman
January 21st, 2013
8:34 pm
Great poster Amo..
D3 You are the Man .Thank you for another year super well done.!!!
Thank you all Cage . May Blessing pour out for you all
JB Falcon
January 21st, 2013
8:43 pm
Wabe, the BM ate my post earlier but yours was an example of my thoughts exactly. We’re running on re-treads and one new tire will not make me comfortable at high speeds.
D3
January 21st, 2013
8:44 pm
Great article from Schultz (which BTW, he and Bradley have really been spot on pretty much all year, but especially during the playoffs). They are very objective, but understand Atlanta sports better than anyone outside the city. They give the Falcons guff if needed, but they also praise as well. I couldn’t agree more with what Schultz is saying here.
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/jeff-schultz/2013/jan/21/falcons-need-make-some-noise-offseason/
Not time to blow the whole d-mn thing up, but it’s surely not time to keep most everything the same and “hope” for a different outcome. As I call it, it’s time for a few key dynamite tosses this off-season. We’ll know everything we need to know about 2013 and Smitty’s future by how this off-season goes.
BY THE WAY ——– WE’RE OFFICIALLY CHANGING THE BLOG TO JUST “THE CAGE”
The name has changed on the RSS and the title of it, but you’ll still see it on the banner.
New Season, New Name!
Geo
January 21st, 2013
8:51 pm
[First off, condolences Birdman, and to all the Cagers who suffered losses this year. Hope you find peace and blessings]
Thanks for another great post, D3. Thanks for the poster, Arno. It’s an honor to have a place on it and in The Cage.
This was one of the most hearbreaking losses I’ve ever experienced as a fan. We were so close, the game was ours to win, everything was lining up for this to be our year. And then it wasn’t.
I know there are many ways to slice and dice the team and its shortcomings, but I really think there is some sort of crisis of confidence on the team. The slip, the bobble, the stumble. All in the second half. All too familiar. I don’t know if it’s more Smith or Ryan, but it’s a characteristic of a Smith-Ryan team in the big games. Some may call it a lack of a killer instinct, yet I’ve seen this team put away the opposition much more often than not. But in the big games, doubt just seems to creep in, doubt that they belong with the best, the elite, the champs. Suddenly they are making mistakes, the game plan looks shaky, they forget who they are and how they got there. I think the team needs a good psychiatrist more than anything else.
LRD
January 21st, 2013
9:00 pm
Well Moore and DeCoud are going to the Pro Bowl now…
This leading up to contract year for Moore too…
The Monger
January 21st, 2013
9:02 pm
The Falcons 2nd half choke will go as another epic atlanta sports failure, you can’t get around it. After the first minute of the 2nd quarter the Falcons should have been outscored 38-7, and would have been if Akers didnt miss a chip shot field goal and Crabtree didn’t fumble on the one yard line. This team is nowhere near championship caliber, everyone on here blames the refs, which is really stupid, because in this game I actually thought the refs did great, and I am a Falcons fan. You guys just see what you wanna see, not seeing holding calls costing the 49ers 25 yard gains, and missed face mask calls the Falcons commited, you only see one or 2 questionable calls that go against the Falcons and claim terrible officiating. You do this because of denial that the Falcons just aren’t there. They get lucky with one yard line fumbles, but then can’t produce. They had 4 downs to get 10 yards with the right to go to the Super Bowl likely on the line, and only got 6. Matt Ryan fumbled and threw a devestating interception, 2 huges mistakes that Kaepernick did not commit all game. And who is the 2nd year quarterback again? SF made big time adjustments on defense at halftime, and Mike Nolan can’t and they get gashed for 3 or the 4 quarters. Mike Smith plays again not to lose. Everyone that blew this game has to be held accountable. I would have to think Matt Ryan’s contract should be hugely deducted after this game, it really exposed him. Not only committing 2nd half turnovers, but then not atoning for them with a touchdown on that last drive. Mike Smith should be shown the door (1-4 in the playoffs), and in that one win, he needed a 31 second comeback. He is not a big game coach. Tony G, unfortunately will likely retire now, so Dimitroff has some big decisions to make, and he must come to terms with some of the mistakes he has made. He needs another good O-Lineman, 2 defensive end’s, another Pro Bowl type linebacker, a high-quality and fast running back, and I would give DeCoud a long talking to about his playoff performance. Too poor for a player who played Pro Bowl caliber in the regular season.
The Monger
January 21st, 2013
9:11 pm
I will say MAD Props to Julio Jones… 2 touchdowns and 100 yards in the first quarter alone. Can’t help if Matt won’t throw him the ball in the entire 2nd half.
Geo
January 21st, 2013
9:19 pm
Get over yourself, Monger. No one here is blaming the refs. And “nowhere near championship caliber” is a laughable statement, considering we’re debating a go ahead drive in the waning seconds of the NFC Championship.
D3
January 21st, 2013
9:21 pm
Geo — You’re right about the big game tightness. I admit that I’m less than objective regarding Ryan, but I truly believe that is all Smith and has rubbed off on Ryan. I still have a hard time blaming him solely for the loss. With no running game and a really awful defense, he gave us yet another chance to win.
The Monger — I understand your frustration, but trying to compare this loss to “all the chokes in Atlanta sports history” is a major reach and misses the mark. The Braves, Hawks, or previous Falcons failures have nothing to do with witches, fairies, and pixie dust curses, and everything to do with terrible ownership, management, and coaching. This team is annual contender. The Falcons of yore would never even sniff the postseason or consistent success. You’re right in that the Falcons aren’t as good as we thought they were, but trying to say that Kaep is that much better than Ryan also misses the mark. One has a helluva running game, great OL, and great defense (like 6 Pro Bowlers I think) and the other has no running game, a weak OL, and a terrible defense.
LRD — Thanks again for the game. It was a blast, even though we didn’t pull it out. It made the crash landing much more bearable. I think, or at least hope, that Smitty is more on the hot seat than we all think. Too much talent that aging rapidly to just “trust in Smith year after year after year.” Bet Jon Gruden would like a shot with Matt Ryan.
D3
January 21st, 2013
9:38 pm
Schultz said that the Falcons need to make some big noise this off-season and I couldn’t agree more. He lists the following as the top 5 needs heading into off-season:
1) Defensive End
2) Strong Side Linebacker
3) Tight End
4) Offensive Line
5) Running Back
I agree with the most part, but it’s all about the lines, period……….
1) DT – Big DT, no one under 320
2) OL – specifically OG. Move Konz to C. Draft RG or move Clabo inside, Baker to RT, Holmes to LT
3) DE
4) Agree on LB, RB, but TE is a red herring I think
We’ll obviously be getting a ton into this very soon, but we can’t fix everything all at once and I think taking a TE early would be a major mistake. I think we may see something like a Palmer / Coffman combo and allow HD to take up a lot of Gonzo’s touches (goodness let’s hope that he turns some kind of corner this year).
Here’s something that really bothers me on Smitty………
John Abraham played 69 snaps in the playoffs and had zero tackles. He was more invisible than Manti Te’o’s girlfriend. That’s on Smith. Abraham, the team’s sack leader, never should have played in the final regular season game against Tampa Bay, when he suffered an ankle sprain. Smith: “You can’t second-guess yourself as a coach.”
If that doesn’t reek of rank stubborn Smittyball, than I don’t know what does. Of course you can second guess yourself, because that’s how you learn from your mistakes. I’m starting to get a sinking feeling that we have plateaued under Smitty. Love the guy and hope I’m wrong, but not getting the warm and fuzzies anymore w/ Smitty. We’ll know all we need to know this off-season. Big moves = hope. Minor to No moves = despair.
falcon21
January 21st, 2013
9:39 pm
Still at a loss for words here, still very depressed. Sad thing is I was more comfortable with a 7-0 lead than I was with a 17-0 lead. I guess it is because I knew we would keep pooring it on at that point. My biggest fear happened, we got a big lead and got comfortable. If that makes any sense at all.
Julius the Kicker
January 21st, 2013
9:51 pm
What a day! We had victory in our hand, and slowly slip a way.
I don’t know why, but I wasn’t mad as last game that we almost blow a way.
Maybe I saw the hope……..
I would like to thank you D3 for great post all years, and all cage members for educate myself and fun.
Without you guys, I wouldn’t enjoy this season as much as I had.
I will keep reading this post until next season start.
Thanks again cage members & keep the hope alive until the SUPER BOWL WIN….
GO FALCON!
JB Falcon
January 21st, 2013
9:56 pm
There’s a whole lot of things that happened in our last game that folks have pointed out, that, if they didn’t happen, we would have won the game. They happened, we lost. If we had won everyone would be saying how good we are and overlooking the faults that we are now pointing out. The faults would still be there, even if we made it to the SB. We’re back to building a team, earlier than we wanted, and you can’t improve on something if you can find no faults in it. Let’s get ‘em fixed and if I may borrow his name, The Time is Now!
ATL Observer
January 21st, 2013
9:56 pm
Falcons did the best they could to jump out as far as they could in the early stages. As most predicted, over the long haul, the Niners outtoughed them. Even still, one different playcall decision in the final drive and we could all be sitting here talking about the Super Bowl.
The defense just isn’t tough enough right now, but Nolan did a great job with what he had. Hoping for a good offseason…
Wings
January 21st, 2013
10:02 pm
D3 thanks for your dedication in making the Cage important and meaningful to all of us. It is fun.
Now, there is one question if answered would tell us what the problem is. I would like to know if the defensive schemes used in the Seattle and San Francisco games were based on the work and knowledge of Mike Nolan or developed because of guidelines HC Smith provided to Mike Nolan.
If HC Smith had nothing to do with the schemes, then we have a player talent problem. If HC Smith told Mike Nolan how to play both of these games, then the problem is HC Smith. I do not believe the defenses in the two play off games resembled the schemes we saw in the Denver game and others at the beginning of the season.
Wings
January 21st, 2013
10:08 pm
Arno great job on the logo. It would make a great t-shirt front and/or cap emblem.
D3
January 21st, 2013
10:18 pm
Julius / Wings / and Others — Thanks for the all the thanks and kudos. It genuinely is a pleasure to rap Falcons football with all of you. Trust me, I enjoy it as much as you all do. Especially now that I’m taking an official block of all MTV Sports websites and writers.
Early look at our Free Agents…..
Unrestricted Free Agents
William Moore
Sam Baker
Brent Grimes
Mike Cox
Mike Peterson
Todd McClure
Chris Hope
Tony Gonzalez
Chris Owens
Luke McCown
Garrett Reynolds
Lawrence Sidbury
Antone Smith
Vance Walker
Restricted Free Agents
Robert McClain
Michael Palmer
Antone Smith
snacktastic
January 21st, 2013
10:29 pm
We had a good run. Perhaps we’ll have a better one next time.
Go Falcons.
E43
January 21st, 2013
10:33 pm
Nicholas was a pro bowl candidate this year. But….Nicholas was torched by Graham in the first Saints game. Adjustments after that game seemed to be find the TE and put Nicholas as far away from him as possible. Could it be that Nicholas was spying the QB? Sure. Could it be that Nicholas is concentrating on stopping the run?…….Sure. They did go in favor of the nickel defense and still got burned for even more passing yards compared to last year. Long story short, I don’t think Stephen Nicholas should be receiving snaps on obvious passing situations. Dent has an excuse. James(29) saw the field for the first time since 2008. Peterson is too old to cover TE’s. Just like that, the Falcons are extremely thin at LB. At least we can rotate guys at DT and DE. But LB pass coverage is nonexistent outside of Spoon.
Greg Mendel
January 21st, 2013
10:42 pm
Good job, Arno! Thanks! I am sincerely honored to see my screen name in there, and I am NOT WORTHY! Kudos to you and The Cage!
D3
January 21st, 2013
10:44 pm
E43 — You’re right, we’re way weaker in many areas than we would like to believe. I’ll have to stand up and eat crow on Nicholas. I thought re-signing him was a good move and that getting a legit DC would / could unlock his true potential. You’re right, this defense is in pretty bad shape going forward. We need a big shake-up in my opinion. Appears we’re stuck with Nicholas at least somewhat because the way I read his contract, it seems we’d have to pay him $3 mill just to cut him.
The Time is NOW
January 21st, 2013
10:44 pm
JB Falcon (9:56) – agree wholeheartedly!
darrell starks
January 21st, 2013
11:12 pm
Okay here is the blue print for superbowl in 2013.
First sign Restricted free agent Chris Ivory, Saints already have 3 quality RB
Ivory is only 24years of age and is a beast.
2nd sign free agent Paul Kruger 6′4 270 pounds is a monster and nasty plus he played around Ray Lewis.
Paul had 9sacks as a part time starters.
GET BOTH PLAYERS ON ARTHUR BLANKS PRIVATE JET AND IT’S OVER.
Falcons would have sign 2 nasty beast one on offense other on defense
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
waynester
January 21st, 2013
11:13 pm
The most worrisome problem to me is the window of opportunity. These vets have carried us pretty far but it’s a young man’s game and we are the 5th oldest team in the league. Personally, I’m in agreement with Smitty when it comes to starting the most veteran guys whenever possible. Even raw talent is no substitute for experience but the flesh is weak–even the best players get old and constant infusions of younger players are required but must be balanced by proven pros….thus the dilemma. Go young, like SEA or try to phase vets out incrementally….Young guys like Holmes show plenty of promise but are they ready for that next step? I’ve got to believe that HCMS is better equipped to make those decisions than we are, even if some of these decisions seem like no-brainers to we fans…..
darrell starks
January 21st, 2013
11:24 pm
DRAFT
1st Pick DT Jonathan Jenkins or DT Jessie Williams
2nd Pick ILB Kevin Minters or ILB Nico Johnson
3rd pick OG Larry Warford a beast, No way he last this long if so he would be day 1 starter for Falcons.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
January 21st, 2013
11:31 pm
Defense 2013
DL Kruger, Peters, Jenkins or Williams, Abraham
LB Nicholas, Minters is a monster or Nico, Spoon
DB Grimes, Moore, Decoud, Asante
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
January 21st, 2013
11:42 pm
WHO IS THE BEST LB
Minters or Nico ?
I say it’s a toss up.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Ray
January 21st, 2013
11:56 pm
D3 , a masterful piece.
Arno , loved the poster.
Wabe , your 6:53 pm post made PLENTY of sense.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
12:09 am
Our defense has to be re-worked, plain and simple.
Either let Nolan install his 3-4 or revamp the 4-3. Thinking back on it, we should have seen all this coming anyway.
Nolan comes in as a new DC and had a few key things to say:
1) Every DE on the roster is a guy he considered a LB in his 3-4 scheme. He literally said that.
2) When asked repeatedly how the defense looked to him prior to the start of the season, he was evasive. The few things he DID let slip weren’t exactly positive. That alone tells you there is a personnel issue.
3) Why were we playing a hybrid defense? I’ll tell you. Nolan knew we’d only get so much from the front 4. He also knew we had exactly one guy in the LB group that could cover (Weatherspoon). So, he used 2 LBs a lot and went with a whole pile of DBs.
Our run defense suffered greatly, and with good reason. One less LB out there to plug gaps and make tackles. But as discussed before, there were bigger reasons (literally). Babineaux is in decline, Peters was out and when he came back never really made it back to 90% I truly believe. Vance Walker had the most consistency but is a backup, and Peria Jerry had no effect. When your front 4 looks like that, what are two LBs gonna do for you?
Exactly.
Dimitroff needs to get off the damn pot and start getting this ish right. That black dot board they have? Take a few dots off of there and roll on. No rookie is gonna come in here and disrupt the locker room with the leaders and vets we have in there. So unless a kid is really bad news (won’t stay out of trouble with the law, etc) then take a long hard look.
We need some studs.
And we don’t need to spend 4 years getting them ready either, dammit.
Use the draft, but also use FA. Just don’t pick another sullen underwear model.
As for vets versus young guys, it’s like this – the best franchises know when to infuse with young talent.
We’ve seen guys that weren’t top billing like Marshall Newhouse (Packers) and Nate Solder (Patriots) get their run early on, now they’ve developed into very solid players for high level teams. Trial by fire.
Time to quit this BS and get rolling. Put these kids on the spot. Especially when some of your vets are on their last legs or some of the “incumbents” are barely adequate on a good day.
Enough of this. Windows are only a problem if you don’t make yourself a couple of doors. Always have a backup plan. Always.
You wait too damn long, the world (and the game) passes you by. Then all you have is a bunch of beat-up vets.
Don’t think so? Ask the Steelers.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
12:11 am
Damn blog monster….got me!!!
Hamad Meander
January 22nd, 2013
12:22 am
Arno – thanks for the prime real estate on the poster.
My voice is gone from Sunday afternoon. I’ll say this – Atlanta fans – you did your part. You were loud, energetic, and never let up. There wasn’t a single snap the 49ers took without full volume from the crowd. Awesome.
I’m disappointed in the outcome, but the game and atmosphere was grand. I could point out all the things that could/should have happened and we would have won, but everyone else has done that. We are lucky to have such a great team and I look forward to next season.
Hamad Meander
January 22nd, 2013
12:28 am
darrell starks – I love your ideas of going after Ivory and Kruger, but I’m not convinced we need to target a DT in the first round. If Gonzalez is gone, we HAVE to get Eifert or Ertz to replace him. Gonzalez has been too important to this team’s success to not have top talent at that position when he is gone. We do have a few holes to fill, but it looks like we don’t have major issues to address with our own unrestricted and restricted free agents.
Reginald Young
January 22nd, 2013
6:02 am
It was too easy. All they needed was one score in the second half. I’ve seen them do it a million times. 5 times last year 4 times this year. They know how to come back… But this time, the most important time, they didnt. I was there, section 316 row 8. I was surronded by the most passionionate fans. Ones who would have volunteered to play without a day of practice, knowing what was at stake. A trip the the Super Bowl. I can not get the images of the faces out of head after it was clear that they had lost the game. It was like witnessing a horrific car crash know personally the people involved. It was horrible. Words cannot express the sight. I feel for those fans who were really hurt by this. I truly now understand what it is to love a football team.
Chop Buster
January 22nd, 2013
7:30 am
First, let me say that’s a nice banner Arno created. D3, I can’t disagree with anything you’ve said in your write up.
I sat in my seat until the very end hoping that we had one more comeback in us only to see the last play come up as an incompletion. We should have never been in this position to begin with.
I hate criticizing a team that came so far with so little, but some of these guys are not championship material (a few on offense and majority of defense). Any team that goes in with a 17-0 half time lead and lose by four points doesn’t deserve to win. The bottom line is we’ve been playing with house money all year long and ran into a team that knew how to make adjustments in the second half. What I don’t understand is why would you run the same defensive scheme the entire game? You can’t be that afraid of Kaepernick (Smitty). This has Smith written all over it in my mind. The man is absolutely the most conservative, risk averse HC in the NFL. I really don’t know another I could even compare him to. With all this talent on offense, and barely any on defense, if you have to throw it 200 times to win the game then so be it. It was obvious SF could not handle our passing game.
This may be going over board, but I say we need to revamp the entire defense. There is one true starter on that defense and it’s Spoon. The rest of these guys are all backups or have passed their prime. Most of us have been saying they have to build this team to complete in the trenches and all Dimitroff has done is patchwork. The OL is slowly coming along and the DL is the same–zero pass rush unless you have a subpar OL. We need two fast LBs to go with Spoon (Dent is a ST fill and Nicholas is just plain slow). Dunta is slow and may need to be moved full-time to nickle and Asante too light in the azz to get physical off the line. Decoud just can’t tackle and has been too inconsistent year. William Mo if he’s healthy plays ok, but not the dominant SS I was hoping for–and he looks lost in coverage at times. Moore tends to look better when he’s allowed to roam the field, rather than play zone. Nolan needs to bring some of the physical guys he brought to SF, but I’m afraid Dimitroff may not bring some in if they don’t meet his clean and squeaky image.
I really hope we go 95% of defense in the draft with a power/speed RB and more OL help. As far as coaching, I hope Arthur and TD call Smitty on the carpet and read him the riot act. They should also demand he stay completely out of the play calling and worry strictly about in-game decisions, i.e., go for it 4th and 1, when to use your timeouts, etc.
I’m disappointed and don’t feel that we’ll automatically get back here next year with all the other teams improving (in and out of the division). We were SOOO close to going to the big dance.
FugitivePoet
January 22nd, 2013
8:39 am
I can’ begin to tell you how much this loss hurts and much more than anticipated.
We were right there. One play from anybody: Douglas not stumbling, Arching pass from Ryan to Quizz, Ryan getting on the fumble, Backers plugging the option hole, a screen or end run on the the 9 for last plays with Ryan hurt and don’t get me started on those fucking refs with their personal fouls and bullshit roughing call and yet not critical calls on the Niners when they started tussles or hit Ryan late (like they don’t bet?).
The Niners were seriously not that good. We beat ourselves. Again.
This one will hurt a long time.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 22nd, 2013
8:52 am
D3, thanks for all you do here in the cage, giving us a place to share opinions, blow off steam. This blog has proved to be, IMO, invaluble during the regular season…and IMO, equally, if not more during the off-season, makes the off-season go pass a whole heck of alot faster. Thank You.
Arno, Great work on the poster. It would look sharp on a black T.
trademark
January 22nd, 2013
9:16 am
First up – Damn, Arno, that is one bad a$$ logo! Thanks, man!
Next up – Very insightful D3. And thanks for saying pretty much everything I wanted to about an ESPN columnist that will from now on remain nameless. Unless you want to call him “SaintsB!tchBoy” or something….
On the playoff loss….I was very painfully reminded of an afternoon in 1980 when I was a kid and watched Dallas do something very, very similar to us….17 point deficit, all made up in the second half. We go home. All I can say is….for those of you to young to have lived through that, now you know what we geezers are talking about. It is heart-wrenching. The last time that happened to the Falcons, we went into a steep and long decline. Fortunately, this time, we have the front office and staff that keeps the ship sailing in the right direction, which brings me to my next point:
Mike Smith. Tough one. At times he seems like a savior. At times he is the reincarnation of Marty Schottenheimer. Or a close resemblance. Here’s the thing as I look at the big picture with a bit of distance; Smith and TD have the team moving forward as to reaching goals. It’S slow, painfully slow, but let’s list them:
1- Recover a lost franchise. Check. The Falcons. were in as worse shape as I can ever remember them being in after Petrino and Vick. They righted that ship, and fast. They made the Falcons not only good, but competitive. A playoff contender for 4 of the last 5 years. How many teams in those situations can say that? Cleveland? Oakland? Kansas City? How about Arizona? 1 year of stellar success, and then what? Tennessee? Look at Philadelphia (yeah, I really don’t want to either, but still….). Buffalo. Miami. Tampa. New Orleans is also starting down that slide. Brees is aging, and they can’t pay all of their key players. Let’s face it, I can name probably another 10-15 teams right now in that situation. We ain’t one of them, and show no signs of doing anything but remaining at or near the top of this highly competitive and changing league. No small feat. In fact, almost unheard of.
2. The success string. It was slow, one winning year, then we had to reach the goal of back-to-back winning years. We only finished 9-7. We made it by the slimmest of margins, but still.
3. Get dominant. We took the number one seed and looked primed for a run, but we still had a step to take in this loooong building process.
4. Win in the playoffs. This is the one I think took a year too long to happen. This situation we find ourselves in now should have taken place last season. Hence….
5. WIN IN THE PLAYOFFS. OK, now we did that. There’s an asterisk though, as I think we’re still a year behind on the next step….
6. Win the title. Considering how long it’s taking to reach each goal here, I wouldn’t be all that shocked if the Falcons reach the Super Bowl, only to lose it, and be behind on the next step once again….
7: Win Titles. It’s no secret TD is modelling this club after New England, who is respected an dominant because of their multiple title wins. This is where he wants to take the Falcons, and honestly, judging by the obvious progress this franchise is making, they’re going the right way.
Here’s the danger:
We are taking SO DAMNED LONG at every step to do it. NFL careers are not built to last like that. WE have, IMO, about a 3-4 window left to get these goals accomplished, and honestly again, I wouldn’t be shocked if it takes that long to do it. It seems to be the style of management. And the team reflects it.
Maybe we fell apart in the game because we just were still one step away. Personally, I tend to think that’s BS, that that game was winnable, and so was the Super Bowl, with the team in it’s current state. Which brings me full circle.
Mike Smith. Let me pose a hypothetical question in my next post. Stay tuned.
trademark
January 22nd, 2013
9:17 am
Blog monster!
elephanthead
January 22nd, 2013
9:28 am
You’d better hope that Gonzales comes back for one more year, because if he retires you can bet every cent you have that Dimitroff (the master evaluator) is going to use our best draft pick on another shiny hood ornament like Zach Ertz, the TE from Stanford. This will be the most important offseason for the Falcons in many years – there are a lot of things to be fixed, and I hate to say it, but I have my doubts about whether TD and Smitty are up to the task. Here’s to hoping they get it right this time.
Sis-Boom-Bah Humbug
January 22nd, 2013
9:36 am
The Falcons defense began the season with some innovative & effective schemes, and as the season wore on their performance regressed. Nevertheless, most were optimistic going into the playoffs that Nolan would pull out some new wrinkles, as if they had been holding back toward the end of the season. Well the sad reality is that the defense in the playoffs looked like the 2010 season and earlier: paranoid prevent defense. The game planning, scheming, and choking on defense looked to have Smitty’s twelve thumbs all over it.
The obvious talent deficiencies are not enough to explain or excuse the poor defensive performance in both playoff games, especially with the big leads the offense generated. Clearly, there have been multi-year failures in player acquisition and/or development, but unfortunately that cannot be fixed overnight.
If Nolan was fully in charge of the defense in the playoffs, he probably can and should be fired without any hesitation. He could readily be replaced. Nevertheless, I have to believe that Smitty was imposing his clumsy ideas on the defense. Regardless of the defense’s woes, Smitty’s performance, especially in game management/decisions, consistently leaves much to be desired. Quite simply, the game seems to proceed too fast for him to keep up mentally.
Accordingly, Smitty presents the Arthur Blank with a HUGE problem. How do you replace an inadequate head coach who nonetheless has compiled an excellent record? Even more perplexing, who could he be replaced with? It will be interesting to watch Mr. Blank and see how he plays it – but he in not a passive owner who merely enjoys public visibility. He wants/demands results. My expectation is that he will not discharge Smitty unless he is sure of hiring a well-proven head coach. Such a decision has to be one with a very high probability of success, because fortunately the Falcons are not desperate.
In this context, I cannot help but wonder about any off-the-record agreements that may have been made in extending Koetter’s contract. In any case, the extension was very prudent.
A head coaching change often means a notable change in a team’s chemistry & personality, not to mention roster. Clearly, the Falcons need a BIG change in personality. On the field, the defense is complaisant, lackadaisical, often confused, and seemingly lacking in concentration. This is a coaching problem of major scale – all the way around. The trouble here is first changing Smitty’s personality/leadership style, and whether such an after-the-fact transformation could actually have the intended impact on the team. Somehow, something REALLY has to happen to make the defense play like PROFESSIONALS.
trademark
January 22nd, 2013
9:39 am
D3- can you help me brother? Blog ate my post!
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 22nd, 2013
9:40 am
We will not win a Super Bowl with Mike Smith as Head Coach.
During Mike Smiths tenure as Falcons Head Coach, his teams have proven to perform (play) inconsistent football, camouflaged by consistent regular season winning records.
Mikes Smith failure to take this franchise (football team) to higher heights, will never happen. Smith, I’m sure is a nice guy, players, fans for the most part, like and respect him…but he’s not that trend setting, dominate coach that other teams, and to a certain degree his players fear.
Mike Smith has evolved somewhat in his coaching Philosphy in the last couple of years, or should I say, it was forced upon him by our “ingenios” GM. It can’t be more obvious than on the offensive side of the ball. If left up to Smith, he’d probably still be happy with running Turner 2 out of 3 downs for a total of 3 yards and clouds of dust that apparently clouded his offensive philosphy of what a true dynamic, NFL offense looked like. Smith, in my opinion, is a coach, that has to weigh things out (evolve) into his decision making, that kind of mind-set, IMO, will always leave him a step behind his most competitive peers. Take 9′ers Harbaugh, he made a decision that a lot of pundits, fans questioned in choosing Kap, over Smith (see how that worked out). Would a coach Smith had made that same decision, if in that same situation? IMO, Hell Naw!
The reason I say he wouldn’t, Smith has shown his loyalty to veteran players, rather than developing, playing younger players that could make the footbball team better. Some of Smiths decisions when it comes to who makes the 53 man roster should come into question. Why is Robert James still on the team? I understand he may be good at special teams, but what is his value beyond that? Does he provide depth to our LB corp? Sidbury, he’s been inactive half the season, why keep him on the team if you’re not gonna play him? Those are only two instances of players clooging the roster, not providing quality depth. This is becoming a lengthy post, I will submit, and contiue…
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 22nd, 2013
9:43 am
D3, please help! Apparently, the Kraken is released. Blog ate my post!
D3
January 22nd, 2013
9:53 am
SOMEBODY / trade — Posts out!
Paddy O
January 22nd, 2013
9:55 am
Arno – very cool artistic poster! Unless MR2 has long term problems with that shoulder, I don’t see this team being sub 500 for the next decade. I hope we talk Tony G into one more SB run. We need to replace Mike Turner – need a pure speed guy. Yes, our D needs to be upgraded – but at LB, CB and safety. Unless Grimes can still play – and we still need depth. Franks should be gone. We could be a top 5 NFL team in that next decade. JJ is the REAL deal. As stated prior to the season – TD MUST order Mike Smith to keep the passing attack going until you score 35 – then keep that lead to 21 points. We scored 24 points in the first half. We changed our approach in the 2nd half and got stuffed. Smitty Ball. Mike Smith finally LOST a lead in the 4th quarter. Why? He sits on leads. That is a tactical error. THAT is what Mike Smith MUST stop. If I”m TD, and he repeats this “big lead” collapse in the 2nd half NEXT year, I move on without him.
trademark
January 22nd, 2013
9:58 am
Thanks D3!
trademark
January 22nd, 2013
9:59 am
(Dear Cage, please see 9:16 post for part 1)
OK, back.
Let me ask this to the Cage. Play the 2012 Falcons against the 1998 Falcons, and who wins? (I’m going to go with the 1998 club. They were balanced, got pressure on the QB and put teams away. Most of all, they were GREAT at adjustments in-game to opponents. The current team would never be able to put enough pressure on Chandler and stop Anderson at the same time. Oh, 2012 would score some points, but in this shoot-out I’d go with the team that held Young and Rice to 18 points in the playoffs).
OK, now let me ask it this way. Switch the coaches. NOW who wins? Are you feeling me?
There’s a big, BIG damned problem with playing not to lose. See what happened last week as exhibit A, B,C,D…and the rest of the damned alphabet. Teams reflect the attitude of their coaches, and until Smith gets it through his skull that the SCORE IS 0-0 UNTIL THE FINAL !$%%&!% WHISTLE, we are never going to get that “killer” instinct that is the final step this team needs.
Really. That’s it. That’s IT. Even our defense shut down San Francisco until we had that lead. Then WE RELAXED. Lost focus. Got over-confident in ourselves. Got sloppy.
Ballgame.
The heroics always show up at the end, because all of a sudden the scoreboard says it’s 0-0 again. Or we’re behind. Then we play like we should.
HOW MANY TIMES this season have we seen these heroic drives and defensive stops and asked ourselves and each other : WHERE IN THE HELL HAS THAT BEEN FOR THE LAST THREE QUARTERS?
Answer: It’s always there. We weren’t applying ourselves, because we THOUGHT WE WERE WINNING.
The problem with this mentality is that it completely disregards the ability of the other team to come back. And in the NFL, that is dangerous without end. Teams with killer instinct, and the talent to do it, play like it’s tied, or they’re trailing. ALL THE TIME. It makes you CONCENTRATE. It makes you DESPERATE. And when all that is combined with high-talent levels and experience, it makes you deadly.
Let me put it to you this way; If Dan Reeves had San Francisco down 24-14 at the half, the final would have been something like 37- 24 Falcons. Period. We’re good enough to outscore San Francisco, even when they’re pressing. We PROVED that in the first half. BUT, we’re not good enough to do it when they’re pressing and we’re playing ball control and just seeing if we can score in the process.
On that note, Smith is damned well smart enough, if he FIGURES THIS ONE THING OUT, he would be right there as well.
Later for now, Cage!!
Paddy O
January 22nd, 2013
10:00 am
TRUTH has one helluva an idea – can we get that poster printed on a t-shirt?
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
10:16 am
Our defense has to be re-worked, plain and simple.
Either let Nolan install his 3-4 or revamp the 4-3. Thinking back on it, we should have seen all this coming anyway.
Nolan comes in as a new DC and had a few key things to say:
1) Every DE on the roster is a guy he considered a LB in his 3-4 scheme. He literally said that.
2) When asked repeatedly how the defense looked to him prior to the start of the season, he was evasive. The few things he DID let slip weren’t exactly positive. That alone tells you there is a personnel issue.
3) Why were we playing a hybrid defense? I’ll tell you. Nolan knew we’d only get so much from the front 4. He also knew we had exactly one guy in the LB group that could cover (Weatherspoon). So, he used 2 LBs a lot and went with a whole pile of DBs.
Our run defense suffered greatly, and with good reason. One less LB out there to plug gaps and make tackles. But as discussed before, there were bigger reasons (literally). Babineaux is in decline, Peters was out and when he came back never really made it back to 90% I truly believe. Vance Walker had the most consistency but is a backup, and Peria Jerry had no effect. When your front 4 looks like that, what are two LBs gonna do for you?
Exactly.
Dimitroff needs to get off the damn pot and start getting this ish right. That black dot board they have? Take a few dots off of there and roll on. No rookie is gonna come in here and disrupt the locker room with the leaders and vets we have in there. So unless a kid is really bad news (won’t stay out of trouble with the law, etc) then take a long hard look.
We need some studs.
And we don’t need to spend 4 years getting them ready either, dammit.
Use the draft, but also use FA. Just don’t pick another sullen underwear model.
As for vets versus young guys, it’s like this – the best franchises know when to infuse with young talent.
We’ve seen guys that weren’t top billing like Marshall Newhouse (Packers) and Nate Solder (Patriots) get their run early on, now they’ve developed into very solid players for high level teams. Trial by fire.
Time to quit this BS and get rolling. Put these kids on the spot. Especially when some of your vets are on their last legs or some of the “incumbents” are barely adequate on a good day.
Enough of this. Windows are only a problem if you don’t make yourself a couple of doors. Always have a backup plan. Always.
You wait too damn long, the world (and the game) passes you by. Then all you have is a bunch of beat-up vets.
Don’t think so? Ask the Steelers.
Paddy O
January 22nd, 2013
10:16 am
Dan Reeves would take the current Falcons to the SB IMHO. Smitty just leaves your head shaking. Smitty Ball is. I can’t see Kotter suddenly opting to run the ball when his passing attack is unstoppable. So, who does that? Our defense in the playoffs was very reminiscient – with that zone defense of our BVG defense. – who does that?
Ultrasuede
January 22nd, 2013
10:20 am
How about getting rid of those god-awful uniforms and going back to how they looked during the first decade or so of the franchise?
Knew Money
January 22nd, 2013
10:56 am
It’s been a while since I posted on “the Cage”, though I have read just about every blog this year. I too, am still recovering from the game that got away. Being optimistic and moving forward on the Falcons building on this success is the only way fans should be at this point. No need to dwell on the negative. Mike Smith has done an excellent job coaching. Coach Smith along with Dimitroff have turned this franchise around. Over the 5 years since they’ve arrived, the Falcons have twice been the #1 seed in the NFC. Trading for Tony G. and Asante S., and signing Turner in FA were great moves. I believe they will continue to make the moves to get this team to the Super Bowl. The one area I think the Falcons should address through Free Agency is the offensive line. I know the OL did a decent job in the playoffs. But over the course of the season, the running game struggled and Matt Ryan got hit a lot. As far as what is out there in Free Agency, I would like to see the Falcons go get a top OT. Here’s three names I think the Falcons should Target:
Ryan Clady OT Denver
Branden Albert -OT KC
Jake Long – OT Mia
The two players I would like to see the Falcons re-sign are Grimes and Robert McClain. This would make the Falcons secondary solid. Moore will probably want $8M, which is too much.
As far as the draft go, I think the Falcons should pick the best available DL players with their 1st – 2 picks. After that, they should draft a RB/KR in the 3rd Round. Rounds 4-7 should be more defensive picks OLB, S, another DL.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
11:03 am
PaddyO, again I have to ask, how did play calling in the 2nd half result in anything? Our first two possessions were turnovers. The next possession started on the 1, then our last drive.
When you turn the ball over, you don’t know if the next play would have been a TD. We threw for 400 yards, and when you do that, it does not mean your not throwing the ball enough.
Really, this team evolved into the old Jerry Glanville/June Jones run and shoot. When you can’t run the ball, and your defense leaks like a sieve, you put tremendous pressure on your QB. You make some good highlight footage, but it you have to score, score, score almost exclusively through the air, your vulnerable. I came away thinking Ryan lost the game, until I realize that he had a 114 passer rating, and we threw for 400 yards….Then I realized, our moving AWAY from smittyball, grinding it out, turned this team into the 95 Falcons…Same old it right.
Turnovers, especially at inopportune times trump the best play calling and QB play in the world, ask Bill Belicheck and Tom Brady.
Really, great passing teams who can do little else NEVER win superbowls, NEVER. That it why Air Coryell never won any championships. If we think we just need to call more pass plays….I think that is a mistake.
Geo
January 22nd, 2013
11:07 am
Just watched the game again. Some observations:
Anyone who blames Matt Ryan for this loss is crazy or a hater. For the five years he has been an Atlanta Falcon he has been the best player on the team. He is a winner and the main reason we have been to the playoffs 4 out of five seasons. He will win a superbowl.
But he needs a running game. There’s a reason all the experts harp on the running game. Sometimes they call that “being physical.” Whatever you call it, it’s a vital component of any offense. All this complaining about our running the ball is way off base. If you don’t run it, teams can just keep bringing the pressure and no QB can stand up to that over the course of a ballgame (btw, we have one of the toughest in the league at standing in under pressure). That’s what happened in this game at end. One team could run it in and one asked their QB to do everything. And he almost did.
Anyone who blames the defense is crazy. We had some breakdowns in coverage, we had some poor tackling, but we held a very good offense to 28. Should be enough. IF we’re just a little better on offense. One play better.
Which is why the loss was a heartbreaker, and it’s also why we are still a very good team that should be back in the title game next year. Just think if we had a great running back to go with our great QB. That has been a big missing piece for a few years now. Time to get it fixed.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
11:10 am
The vertical passing team that won a SB was the Rams, but they ran the ball well too. If you pass to set up the run, you have to run.
The Saints won a SB with a vertical passing game, but they also had a top running game when they did it.
Green Bay, sure they did it, but look at where they are now, they had good timing, but once they got figured out, they have not fundamentals to fall back on.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
11:18 am
Geo, Ryan is an easy target, it is not fair to a QB to put everything on him, that is why I have always defended the WTC, you have to diversify your play calling to NOT have to have the QB make a perfect throw every single play.
Really the knock on this team all season has been O line protection, Turner, and our short yardage offense. Yet, non of those played an issue with this past 2 games. Our problem were bad timed turnovers, bad punting, and penalties. It just goes to show, it is always something, it is whack a mole, that is whey a winning combination, a philosophy, it more important than any called play, or any single player replacement.
BobbyDawg
January 22nd, 2013
11:20 am
The Dome was great on Sunday. It was my first trip there in a while and I can’t remember it ever being that loud. It was heartbreaking to say the least to watch our entire team just fold up after such a great start. Smitty says their tight end did most of the damage, but I think we did most of the damage to ourselves. After l got over the rage l had to look at the season as a whole and that finally put a smile on my face. We had a great season with a lot of great games. I’m thinking our failure in both of these games even though we won one was mistakes and lack of execution rather than lack of talent. The Falcons are close real close. Let’s hope they make some of the necessary adjustments in the off season and we come out smoking in September.
Chop Buster
January 22nd, 2013
11:30 am
Geo (11:07) – “Anyone who blames the defense is crazy. We had some breakdowns in coverage, we had some poor tackling, but we held a very good offense to 28.”
Those issues stem from lack of a true pass rush with just your front four, lack of LB speed and players discipline in the fundamentals. Good defenses do the fundamental things very well. We have had this problem all year long.
In addition, we have too many small players on this team to truly be a dominant defense. We need a space-eater to fill the middle and need speed off the edges, DEs, LBs and CBs. A lot of our guys (OL & DL) seem to lack strength and the ability to push the opponent’s DL back.
IMO, this is NOT a championship caliber defense as it stands today. The chasing, diving and hand tackling has been an issue all year long. It needs to get fixed once and for all.
Geo
January 22nd, 2013
11:42 am
Funny, I was more worried about our Oline toward the end of the season, but they came through in the playoffs. Agree on the DL needs, Chop Buster. Need more discipline in our secondary, and yes, in the fundamentals of tackling, angles, etc.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
12:11 pm
Geo ,
Call me crazy, but I think we can and DO need to improve the defense.
As for the running game, I think it’s been a theme in this forum for oh…I don’t know….2 whole years? We’ve been screaming about Turner for that long at least.
We couldn’t run all year long.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
12:14 pm
I came away thinking Ryan lost the game, until I realize that he had a 114 passer rating, and we threw for 400 yards
It’s easy to do, which a lot of folks have….particularly if you’re looking for one person to blame.
I’ll say it again – the two QBs currently headed for the SuperBowl have very good RBs behind them.
They also have good defenses.
And NEITHER team plays “not to lose.”
The Time is NOW
January 22nd, 2013
12:23 pm
This season also reminds me of 1980, as trademark mentioned. Heartbreak after a giddy ride of optimism. For me, though, there are differences beyond my progression from young adult to middle age (humor me).
After the 1980 season ended with the tragic loss to the boys, I was supremely confident that we would be back with a vengeance. We still had Bart, Andrews, Cain, Jenkins and a serviceable defense coming back the next season. I thought it was just a (ugly) bump in the road. I was wrong.
After this season, I am more concerned that our short term window may be closing. There are reasons for confidence that this front office is up to the task at hand. TD, et. al., turned around this franchise from it’s arguably lowest point in record time. But there are also concerns about the caliber of a number of draft picks, particularly in the trenches.
On the plus side of player development, unless a player entering the league has elite physical skills the normal pattern is that it takes a few years to develop into a starting caliber player. Some never develop, but players like Dahl, Grimes and Clabo were written off before they blossomed into solid NFL starters. If you look around the NFL, there are lots of players who fit that profile. We are forced to hope that at least some of the young guys who appear lost in “the witness protection program” will actually step up when required.
The loss is still too fresh. My optimism is guarded. Hope I’m as wrong now as I was in 1980 about our next season.
The Time is NOW
January 22nd, 2013
12:34 pm
Forgot to mention, I am grateful for the wonderful season! It was fun. They had me believing all year long. (Maybe this is the start of the healing process.)
Geo
January 22nd, 2013
12:50 pm
Big Ray, never said we don’t have work to do on defense. Only that it was not the reason we lost this game. We stopped them (including a stop that was negated due to a bad roughing call), we created turnovers, we did enough to win. That’s obvious, I think.
Geo
January 22nd, 2013
12:52 pm
Aw, did somebody get up on the wrong side of the bed today?
Arno
January 22nd, 2013
1:02 pm
Smith relies on certain strengths– turnover ratio, few penalties, clutch Ryan. Each strength fell short Sunday, one play each. Not too surprising, really– getting traction out of those particular strengths won’t necessarily work when facing a disciplined, balanced 49er team. So now we look at the missing pieces. Getting that consensus feeling at the Cage…
D3
January 22nd, 2013
1:03 pm
Love that TrollBeGone spray. We should buy some stock in it, it’s such a good product!
welikebaseball2
January 22nd, 2013
1:12 pm
D3, your honesty & passion makes you my favorite of all the writers that cover any of the home teams. I agree with your assessment of the defense 100%. The only thing I’d add, that you didn’t emphasize, is the desperate need to find a consistent running game. Now, does that mean replacing Turner? I’d go for that. Does that mean bringing in some tough, run-blocking offensive linemen? I could go for that too. However it goes, having Ryan throw the ball 40+ times a game flat out won’t get it done. We’re going to need more out of the running game…which would, in turn, help the in-need-of-some-upgrades defense by keeping them off the field. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the QB’s of both winning teams from Sunday threw the ball fewer than 40 times.
Big Lou
January 22nd, 2013
1:23 pm
After seeing that schedule next year…
We won’t be talking about how easy it was for ATL to reach the playoffs.
Patriots, @Green Bay, @SF, Washington, Seattle
Not to mention tough defenses like Arizona and the Rams.
Then you have Carolina and Saints in our division.
I’m really looking forward to the changes ATL are gonna make… cause that schedule is going to test our talent. All I know is that if they make the playoffs next year with a good record, I won’t doubt them.
trademark
January 22nd, 2013
1:25 pm
Obvious problems-I think…..
Maybe a couple more “attitude” O-Lineman…or just one Harvey Dahl- actually, the O-Line was not all that horrible against the 49ers and Seattle, a couple of teams that could terrorize QBs. Ryan was rushed, sure, but stayed clean, in relative terms when talking about the defenses they were up against. We could use some heft to push the short yardage and run game, though, that’s been crap for two years now
Pass rush. I have no idea where to get it. Maybe get some hosses and run a 3-4. I really don’t envy TD, he has to really build this from scratch, because this is the biggest problem on the D.
LBs that can cover Tight Ends. Really, this is a skill set, stop the run, and cover. Takes speed and brains, a rare combo, but we don’t have anything even resembling it right now.
A dangerous RB. It used to be Turner, and thank heaven he showed up against Seattle. Without that, we would have lost badly.
A kick returner. Again, non-existent.
All in all, I can say we’re not in horrible shape. When the problems become this clear and defined, and we still end up in the Divisional Championship and damn near win it, you’re awfully close.
FRESH----Need another cold one!
January 22nd, 2013
1:27 pm
Good afternoon Cagers, is it a high possibility, MS gets the boot?
Big Lou
January 22nd, 2013
1:40 pm
Trademark
Gonna be hard with that schedule next year, but with some great offseason moves, we can do it!
waynester
January 22nd, 2013
1:56 pm
fresh
not after the season he just turned in. As another poster already noted–what coach out there (and available) would be an improvement? A college guy? a Coordinator? one of these “retired” coaches from the TV networks? I’m not opposed to making a HC change but it’s got to be a huge upgrade over Mike Smith and that won’t be easy to find…..
D3
January 22nd, 2013
2:04 pm
Wanted to take a second and Welcome a few to our ever-expanding Cage Family……Fresh / Reginald / fugitive / elephant / utlra : Welcome Gentlemen!
Knew Money / Julius — Great to see you back.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
2:04 pm
Big Ray, never said we don’t have work to do on defense. Only that it was not the reason we lost this game.
It was PART of the reason.
Aw, did somebody get up on the wrong side of the bed today?
So partially disagreeing is tatamount to getting up on the wrong side of the bed? Whatever, dude.
D3
January 22nd, 2013
2:08 pm
BR — I could be wrong, but he may have been referring to the troll that I have since extinguished.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
2:08 pm
Interesting stat, none of the top 7 scoring teams in NFL history ever won a Superbowl, keeping the pedal to the metal to make up for other shortcomings is a shortcoming in itself.
On the 4th down play, we San Fran had 5 in the box. We had 2 time outs, the correct play was a draw, but if we ran the ball and were stopped short….OMG, could you imagine?
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
2:11 pm
Mike Smith isn’t going anywhere anytime soon I figure. And as others have said, has to be a clear upgrade before you make that move. I mean, REALLY clear. You can make a serious mistake in that area.
I give Smitty this – he picked better Coordinators the second time around. I think what he now needs to do is get into the nitty gritty…give those Coordinators some things they want.
If Koetter wants a better RB to run with and throw to…give it to him.
If Nolan wants to go with a 3-4 or is willing to settle for a couple of pieces that he thinks will set his squad right…give it to him.
Smitty has gone further with both guys than he was ever going to go with the previous Coordinators. They’ve helped him get over that one little playoff hump and can help him go even further. Time to show them some love, and the way you do that is to give them more tools to work with.
Now, if Smitty can’t do that, then he will have assured where he’s going to peak. And next time those guys get job interviews, they may take them a lot more seriously.
Just sayin’….you need continuity on your staff, but give and take is part of that. Brought these guys in for fresh ideas…time to act on those. But act smartly.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
2:11 pm
On 4th and 4, San Fran had a 4/2/5 alignment with 5 in the box, we had 6 OL in the game and a tight end. We went to our strength, our “talent” when a draw would have all buy guaranteed a 1st down.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
2:15 pm
Big Lou ,
I’ve been a big proponent of Thomas Dimitroff. That said, this organization can’t advance if he doesn’t learn from past mistakes (Edwards, Jerry) and make some GOOD moves this offseason.
On offense, a good RB can be a serious difference maker, even if we lose TG to retirement. Hell, we could end up being better .
On defense…gotta tweak the secondary…but more than that, we have to…HAVE TO..solidify that D-Line. Having a fully healthy Corey Peters will help, but we’ve got to have more than that. We need a guy who causes problems on the interior.
We also need more than a one-man, one-legged pass rush. I think we can grab all the talent we can handle at DE but it won’t make a spitball’s worth of difference if the DT position isn’t making trouble for opposing offenses.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
2:16 pm
I think Smitty should be judged on next year performance ON next years performance. How is that?
Losses like we had can destroy a team, or just show the intestinal fortitude we need to keep coming back until we get it right.
If we can run the gauntlet that we face next year and get back in the playoffs, I really don’t care to even discuss it. If we go 6-10, it is time for a change.
We need a running back and linebackers.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
2:17 pm
D3 ,
Gotcha. It looked like back to back posts, so I was like…damn what did I say?
Geo , my bad. Thought you were trying to put the BBS on me (BlogB!tchSlap).
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
2:22 pm
We need a running back and linebackers.
Need DL more than LBs….unless we’re gonna run a 3-4 (in which case we STILL need a couple of big DTs). We spent most of the year running just 2 LBs and it killed us against the run.
We also got very little consistent pressure from the edges outside of John Abraham, and even that has to be put into perspective. Abe no longer comes up big in big games for the most part…
LBs almost always look better when the DL is playing better than average. Clay Matthews hasn’t looked near as good since BJ Raji and the other hogs haven’t played as well.
On the RB….we can’t scream that one loud enough if you ask me.
trademark
January 22nd, 2013
2:37 pm
Big Ray – Agreed on the RB scream. And the D-Line is obvious. It’s been Abraham and nothing else for so long now. He can’t keep it up, and we saw what happened after he gets banged up, it was as sad as our pass rush has looked, like almost ever.
Even the high-flying Saints and Rams SB teams had VERY good run games. So do San Fran and Baltimore this year. As a compliment to their passing attack, which is also vaunted. You just have to have them both, and you have to be able to deploy them as the game dictates effectively. Key word being effectively…not running a back into a line every time on first down. Please, please don’t let us go back to that.
LRD
January 22nd, 2013
2:37 pm
Just chew on this from TMQ.,..
Stats of the Title Round No. 2: In its two playoff games, Atlanta went ahead by a combined 37-0, then was outscored by a combined 17-56.
( Where , oh where, is our ability to put our foot on someones throat and seal out a game? Why, oh why are we always out coached in the 2H? The competition made adjustments….)
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
2:45 pm
Trademark,
Agreed completely
Die Hard Falcon
January 22nd, 2013
2:46 pm
This was the most devastating loss in recent memory for me. I LOVE my Falcons and always defend them, no matter what all the talking heads are saying. Also, I live on the Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin border so I’m surrounded by Packer and Bear fans and I really thought this was our year, I really want to see at least 1 SB in our history and I worry that w/ TG88 retiring we might’ve missed our best chance, hopefully it’s just post-loss blues/negativity, but I feel deflated.
I do believe we can come back strong, but this defense needs some adrenaline, after the first 4 games I really thought that Nolan had done it, but I’m not so sure anymore what to think.
I have love for all Falcons Nation, I mourn w/ you ATL
Go Falcons!!!
Geo
January 22nd, 2013
3:01 pm
Big Ray, I should have realized the troll would be vaporized (love that TrollBeGone stuff). You missed a classic Ryan-hater rant. These folks (cough, JSS, cough) harbor some special kind of hate in their bones. Damned if I can understand it, but I’m just glad I’m not them.
D3, if you want, you could delete that post too.
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Die Hard Falcon
January 22nd, 2013
3:18 pm
I wouldn’t mind seeing us get a couple of Alabama players in the draft this year, maybe Lacey at RB in the 3rd or 4th depending on how he grades out, and somebody on that vaunted defense, we need champions on this team, people who are used to and expect to win, maybe Jesse Williams at DT for the other.
I just can’t get this taste out of my mouth, that was our game and we let them back and handed it to them giftwrapped.
Go Falcons!!!
D3
January 22nd, 2013
3:27 pm
There’s so much to get into, I just don’t know where to start, but I’ll pick up on a point that SOMEBODY mentioned a little earlier regarding Smith……..
I am really pulling for the guy and that is no bull and perhaps the following example isn’t the best, but here goes anyway:
As a UGA grad and fan, I’m afraid we might be getting close to “Mark Richt” category. Richt has been a wonderful coach for many reasons: great leader, excellent guy overall, good mentor for young men, great person to have as the face of your program, consistent winner year in and year out, superb recruiter, and the list goes on and on. But….. ZERO National Championships in 12 years, and in fact, never even playing for one.
In that same time span, Nick Saban has won 4 with two different teams. Meyer won 2, Miles won one, and even now-fired Chizik won one (albeit with (S)Cam at the helm). One of the reasons I’ve always been more hard on Richt than many UGA fans is that I know from watching the NFL so closely how much talent has come through the UGA program and I’m not just talking about Matthew Stafford and Charles Johnson, but a TON of guys that weren’t household names, but are balling in the NFL.
Great regular season coach, but just can’t get over that final hump. Pretty amazing how similar the endings for both UGA and the Falcons were, in the same stadium nonetheless.
I’m afraid that Smith may have missed his big chance. We should certainly be right back there again, but there are simply no guarantees on that. Take a look at the Seattle game. In all objectivity, we really should have lost that game. Up 27-7 in 4th quarter and go down a point with 31 second left?
Don’t we see a trend. Up 17-0 in first half and even then we answered 24-14 to curb some of that momentum. Many will blame Matt Ryan and his two mistakes. Should it really have come to that? People quickly forget that the Niners should really have scored that TD when Crabtree fumbled on the one yard line. You’re telling me our defense can’t come up with one frackin’ stop after the Niners offense got going? (true, the Cliff Matt penalty was garbage, but those are the breaks sometimes).
This is “put-up-or-shut-up” year for Smitty. I’m glad we’re not making a rash decision and canning him because he did win a playoff game….barely….and the candidates out there are not good. He deserves another shot and we’ll know everything we need to know pretty quickly. Much more difficult schedule and huge off-season.
I still think rationally with my brain that Smitty can maybe get it done, but emotionally with my heart that hope is starting to fade. And the “you can never second-guess yourself as coach” just struck the wrong note with me. 2 out of last 3 years we’ve had #1 seed and nary a Super Bowl appearance. I guess my question is, how much better do we expect it to get? Peyton is back with NO, Bucs have talent, and (S)Cam may finally be getting it together.
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
3:35 pm
I was talking to a friend of might yesterday and one thing I came to realize is we need to wait it’s great to sit here and talk about what kind of players we want, but we don’t have anything to go on. YET!(Key word)
I’m all fo upgrading the DL(Biggest need) RB(Second biggest), but right now we need to see who’s bolting who remains, and what transpires out of FA Market(like who will go from which teams).
Like right now Drafting a Eddie Lacy sounds great in fact I’m all for it 110% If it’s second round pick.
Also no lie if we can get more draft picks say somewhere between 3-4 for Brent Grimes I’d be for that as well. This might not be a popular idea so if you want to flame me have at it lol.
D3
January 22nd, 2013
3:43 pm
Stats of the Title Round No. 2: In its two playoff games, Atlanta went ahead by a combined 37-0, then was outscored by a combined 17-56.
And there you go right there in a complete nutshell: that’s all coaching 100%. Maybe it’s some of the coordinators fault, but the person at the head of the ship is Smith and that’s just flat embarrassing right there. Kind of holds the theory of “once we were figured out” that was it. Just terrible.
Geo
January 22nd, 2013
3:55 pm
Smitty over his headset in the divisional round: “The tight end is killing us!”
And he never made the adjustment on defense, in that game or the championship.
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
3:56 pm
So when you put that together the score is 54-56 here’s the issue though with all this. Apparently both teams we played forgot Defense as well. That’s one thing most people don’t realize when looking at both these games.
When we played Seattle their opponents score was what like 15.3 We scored 30 on them.
We played Seattle I do realize we got shutout in 2nd half, but we also ran all over the suppose Defensive Juggernaut of SF 49ers.
D3
January 22nd, 2013
4:03 pm
Ray — You make some very good points, especially the ones about Alabama players. Totally agree. Jesse Williams at DT, Barrett Jones at C/RG, or Eddie Lacy at RB would all work for me, but Lacy would have to be third round or later.
The issue regarding us scoring on the Seahawks and Niners defense is correct, but they made stops when they absolutely had to. We are the exact opposite, we made stops early on and got completely torn to shreds soon thereafter. Yes, we did it for 3 quarters vs. Seattle, but the Niners literally did whatever they wanted to for almost 3 full quarters. Shameful.
JB Falcon
January 22nd, 2013
4:10 pm
I read earlier that darrell has picked up on the Chris Ivory FA possibility also. The kid is 24 and would be the perfect compliment to Quizz. Eddie Lacy sounds good but can we get him and is he already proven that he can handle the NFL? Don’t think the Aints will be able to re-sign him what with their money problems and all and they already have three other good Rb’s.
There are also some good linemen comping up on the FA list.
We've Got Falcon Fever...
January 22nd, 2013
4:20 pm
The Falcons had an admirable season and gave us a terrific show. Thank you for the memories. Will await some offseason news and hope for another competitive season later this year. We’re close to the big game but need a few roster changes and some faith in our home team. Go Falcons!
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
4:25 pm
@ D3
We did I agree, but still two mistakes that would extremely costly to us INT and Fumble if not for those two we win the game. In fact the score might 31-28 with Falcons winning. I just don’t want people to forget these guys were suppose to be ALL WORLD DEFENSE Talking about Seattle and 49ers we basically kept Gore in check and also Colin Kap don’t be fooled either the better of these two teams in the Seahawks trust me on that.
I’m looking forward to Ray Lewis and Co. Feasting on 49ers for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
4:29 pm
And there you go right there in a complete nutshell: that’s all coaching 100%. Maybe it’s some of the coordinators fault, but the person at the head of the ship is Smith and that’s just flat embarrassing right there. Kind of holds the theory of “once we were figured out” that was it. Just terrible.
Don’t you think turnovers had something to do with it? I don’t blame Ryan, it looked like the 95 falcons, the entire game was based on him beating 11 other guys. Over the course of a game, it wears a man down.
If our plan is for the guy to put up 500 yards, and 5 TDs to win, we are screwed…..I do blame Smitty, but I also think we see the result of the gameplan we all wanted to see, to use our “talent” and throw the ball around.
As I said many times, a Wasted Turner Carry is NOT the worst possible outcome of a football play. Football is still about field position, turnovers, controlling the clock, and defense, as much as any other fact of the game.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
4:33 pm
Not to pick a fight, I did not like wasted turner carries any more than the next guy, but you can’t win consistently against the best teams in the NFL with a 25/75 run/pass ratio.
When you get a 17 point lead, you RUN THE BALL. On 3rd and 4, and 4th and 4, with 2 time outs, we faced 5 in the box and did not run. You will not win being afraid to run the ball.
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
4:36 pm
That was also another problem as much as people celebrated the fumble by Crabtree that one actually doomed us. Because we were backed into a wall/corner couldn’t even get out. I’d rather go 4 and out at 30 and above then at 30 and below. What I means is going 4 and out at our 30 yard line would have been better than 4 and out when we were at the 1 yard line.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
4:37 pm
Also, what there some irony that the same end zone where CMR came up 5 yards short is where Smitty came up short? There is some bad mojo in that endzone.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
4:39 pm
Agreed BR, still can’t understand why TG ran a 5 yard pattern on 3rd and 6.
Also, it was an opportunity for Bosher to justify his pick….Put a new punter on my wish list too.
tdawgmom
January 22nd, 2013
4:40 pm
Thanks for all of your hard work D3. Just hope you are wrong about Smitty, but I have this bad feeling you are right. I heard the same comment about not second guessing himself and that did not stick well with me either. How else do you come up with a plan for improvement? Anyway, just hope we get back there next year. Still love Matt Ryan. Think he’s very talented, just constricted by Smith perhaps?
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
4:41 pm
@ Matty Bicep
That’s why we need that new Stadium new place new beginnings maybe? Lol.
Geo
January 22nd, 2013
4:45 pm
I have to agree, MB. I noticed Troy Aikman was very astute in calling the game. On offense, he praised SF for patiently sticking with their running game and that proved huge down the stretch. And he said SF would need to start bringing some pressure on Ryan and that too proved huge — think the near miss to Julio on that go route, as Ryan had to step away from pressure and that disrupted the timing, allowing the DB to make a play, the fumbled snap, which was caused by Ryan looking away to get a guage of the blitz, and the final series, which were hurried passes under duress. Yep, Troy called it on how SF could win and he was right.
Wabe
January 22nd, 2013
4:45 pm
It’ll be really interesting to see what happens with Brent Grimes…
There’s no way I’d commit to the type of money he was demanding last season. With the emergence of Robert McClain and Asante and Dunta still being on the books, I don’t see us needing to exhaust that much cap space on Grimes. With that said, Grimes is still a good corner. I think help is needed elsewhere, but for the right price, I wouldn’t mind seeing him back.
Wabe
January 22nd, 2013
4:49 pm
Also, I heard something that I felt was very true…
When running into these read option offenses, your defense is stuck essentially playing 11 vs. 12.
It essentially feels like there’s an extra player out there for the offense, and that’s why we’re always seeing someone running wide open. It’s not an excuse, it’s just gotta be noted how extremely difficult this offense is to stop. Unless you can somehow find a way to neautralize the front with a dominant line, you’re gonna have to use LB’s and safeties to account for the RB and QB. The QB’s mobility is essentially an extra RB on the field for them. At the same time, dude poses the threat of throwing the football down the field.
I just felt that was a good way of putting it. 11 vs. 12. That’s essentially what it felt like we were watching often times on Sunday with guys running free.
It wasn’t just a problem for us, everybody’s had problems defending it.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
5:00 pm
If our plan is for the guy to put up 500 yards, and 5 TDs to win, we are screwed…..I do blame Smitty, but I also think we see the result of the gameplan we all wanted to see, to use our “talent” and throw the ball around.
Whose decision was it to stop running the ball? It wasn’t Ryan, you can bet on that.
Agreed BR, still can’t understand why TG ran a 5 yard pattern on 3rd and 6.
Maybe that was the call….
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
5:02 pm
Geo ,
I hear ya. JSS is a historic troll. He’s been haunting the AJC blogs for some time now, spewing hatred of anything and everything Atlanta-sports related.
Dude has a crappy life, obviously. And he always reads to see if somebody has responded to his drivel. The guy is a world-class A-hole.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
5:05 pm
Wabe ,
The smart NFL coaches do what they always do when faced with a college game type of issue. They call the college coaches that have to face it all the time, and ask for advice on how to stop it.
As for Grimes, I agree that he could come back for the right price…otherwise kick rocks. My biggest thing is this – does he still have the athleticism that made him good at his job? That’s what this team needs to know. Grimes + his vertical = good to go. Grimes – his vertical = no thanks.
We need to add another CB though, if we don’t go with him. McClain should have cemented his spot, Asante has something left, Dunta is still at least a good hitter but sometimes gets burned badly on coverage. I’d add another just to be safe.
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
5:41 pm
Here is a list of RB’s I’d like to go after.
Eddie Lacy, Marcus Lattimore(USC), and Christine Michael(TAMU) two can be had undrafted or if you reach take Lattimore in 5th round he might not be available after that.
Eddie Lacy is the Replacement of Michael Turner in all this. Marcus Lattimore if drafted late would be low risk EXTREME high reward given what has happened to him.
Christine Michael could also be a nice pickup, but thing is choose between either him or Lattimore liked what I saw even though it’s small at TAMU, but few people are saying he may be a surprise maybe not Alfred Morris, but Doug Martin type.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
5:44 pm
BR, I am not absolving Smitty, if the pattern was a 5 yard pattern, well, that was plain stupid. Maybe th plan was thinking that he could catch it and turn it up, but I hated whom ever made the all.
As for not running the ball, again, poor decision. My point, that ain’t Smittyball, thats a coach who started believing the hype that we have special unstoppable weapons and getting away from what got him there. But when you are 3rd and 4 facing a 5 man box and a nickle defense, you got to check down to a draw.
Look, I am not a blame game guy, 31 teams lose, that does not mean there is a guy on all 31 teams who is to “blame”. I see Denver fired their D back coach who did a great job all season, sure, his was an epic fail, but there was enough fail in Denver to spread around for everyone.
My point, if we can get back to the playoffs again next year and run that gauntlet, I will be in Smittys corner. If not, his time may very well have come to move on…..I also do not buy the “window closing, for other than Gonzo, there is not a guy on the team save Ryan, JJ Spoon, and Roddy whom I care of they leave tomorrow, and those 4 have quite a few years left….
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
5:45 pm
BR, don’t Alabama RBs scare you a little? I mean, who can’t run the ball great when you get blocking like that.
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
5:46 pm
If We go 3-4 GET ME JOHN JENKINS FROM UGA(GO DAWGS) He was a DGD and he would surely be a massive improvement over what we have.
The only DE out there it seems so far with what I’d the most we could hope for is Margus Hunt out of SMU unless someone knows of other DE’s coming out.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
5:47 pm
Actually, Smitty put up a better show than B Billicheck, who has yet to win a SB where he did not cheat…just sayin…
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
5:47 pm
Ray, regarding Jenkins….You see the Alabama game?
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
5:50 pm
As for Smitty being a guy who can win a championship? I have to say, they day they hired him, I said I would be surprised if it legacy tops the Swamp Fox as the 3rd best coach in Falcon history, but he proved me wrong them….Maybe that is why I like the guy.
Paddy O
January 22nd, 2013
5:50 pm
Mr. Pollyanna: Great passing teams never win the SB? Talk to me about GB; even NO. Disregard all the games prior to 2000 – new rules favor and mandate passing attacks. We have one of the best. Somebody else here stated we never threw to JJ in the 2nd half. At the endzone – we ran a run play – why? we like being behind the 8 ball?
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
5:52 pm
I did I also saw where Jarvis Jones wasn’t as effective after the first half does that make him non-Top 5? Cause he’s going somewhere in there some people project #4 and no later.
One game doesn’t make or break you, but right now Jenkins will probably be the best DT we get cause others are sure to go ahead of him.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
5:53 pm
And for all the disappointment, Smitty just topped the chart as the UNDISPUTED #2 coach in Falcon history, topping Jim Mora, whose best season also was to lost an NFC championship.
Paddy O
January 22nd, 2013
5:55 pm
Geo – only reason I blame Matty Ice for the loss is the snap fumble. I don’t do is maliciously – but, reality dictates that that single play doomed us. It is the single bizarre, negative play that the falcons ran on offense (the interception was a slip by Roddy – nothing unusual really about it and NOT On MR2). However, in Matt Ryan I do honestly trust. We’ll get them next year!!
Paddy O
January 22nd, 2013
5:59 pm
matty – first you say nobody wins SB with pure passing; then you directly contradict yourself in the post you made where you seem to be contradicting yourself. You just might not only be pollyanna, but schizophrenic too. and, your rationalization on GB is utter manure.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
6:05 pm
Paddyo, true enough, but the NY Giants won as many SBs in the past 5 years ad New Orleans and Green Bay combined. And I don’t see any passing teams in there today, actually, the Ravens looked dead until they abandon the run….
And, ever since Green Bay won, we have as many playoff wins, and more NFC championship games as they do….Again, the top 7 passing teams in NFL history have not won a SB….Live by the pass, die by the pass.
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
6:06 pm
@ Paddy O
That is all you can really blame on MR2 if anything and really shit happens I hope he doesn’t hang his head on that one. I don’t know if I’d say that was the single play that blew the game for us. Cause you got to remember the fumble by Crabtree, The INT, The Harry Douglas slip and what could have been walk into endzone. Those 4 things if we could take them back and do over score would be higher then it is now by both teams I’m certain.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
6:07 pm
Paddy O, I have never called anyone a name, or gone out of my way to insult anyone. If you want to talk football that is fine. but I am not sure where I contridicted myself.
Ray
January 22nd, 2013
6:07 pm
Blog Monster ate my post NOOOO!!!
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
6:10 pm
I do not mean great passing teams do not win the superbowl, of course having a great passing team is essential, BUT, you have to have balance, or at least some semblance of a threat, but teams know your going to pass 75% of the time, they are going to make like hard on your QB. Thats all. Ryan cracked, no ands, ifs or buts, too much was put upon him. Again, it looked like the old June Jones crap to me.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
6:11 pm
*Ravens looked dead when they abandoned the run…
Paddy O
January 22nd, 2013
6:11 pm
one post: no passing team has won the SB; a few post later, you list the teams that were pass heavy. almost like you were arguing with yourself. gollum. you also know that claim that you NEVER call anyone names is patently false. delusions are tough.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
6:16 pm
2009 Saints had over 2000 yard rushing the ball, and a 4.5 YPC average. So they were pretty good, Green Bay? They lit up the league for a while, but since then, they have not done much.
Other than that, I can’t think of a team that was pass 1st that won a SB except the Colts….And expecting Ryan to play like Manning? No pressure, huh?
Paddy O
January 22nd, 2013
6:17 pm
Ryan did not crack. he made one simple error on the snap fumble. it happens. we would have won that game if that does NOT happen. I don’t see much we need to change on offense – our O line played exceptionally well – why? focused on pass blocking. Against seattle, we ran the ball pretty well. Smitty Ball demands you sit on a lead in the 2nd half. that ethos caught up with Smitty against SF. now, we have squandered a 4th quarter lead. Our defense these last 2 games looked a whole lot like BVG defense. I suspect Nolan was working with Smitty guidance. We are AWFUL in zone coverage. Huge Red Sea parting holes in the middle of the field. Just like BVG was still here. Mike Pete, Dent and Nicolas are LOUSY in coverage. We need LB, CB and Safety upgrades. WE have a lot of young talent at DE & DT – I dont see us throwing it all over board for the 3-4 – although it is attractive. I’d agree with the shuffling of the O line – BUT, Baker did a great job this year – he was NOT hurt. Clabo may be getting old. Once again, our draft picks (even Konz would NOT have played if Reynolds had not gotten hurt) are stuck in the apprenticeship program. Familiarity breeds contempt. Key ingredient Smitty needs to cure: stop sitting on leads.
Paddy O
January 22nd, 2013
6:19 pm
what pressure? play like a SB winning QB? that is his goal. I’m sure he is still mad at himself for dropping that snap. If our O line played like the last 2 games all season long, we go undefeated. We stuffed the 49er rush. But, trying to run quizz against their LB squad failed all day long. Passing was the key to winning.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
6:19 pm
Paddy, again, no insults needed. Let me say it again, SURE you CAN win a SB by being a pass 1st team. But most of those team I mentioned were decent running the ball, except Green Bay, and Mr Manning, and we got further than they did. My point, being a great passing team is not guarantee, you need more.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
6:24 pm
PaddyO, Flacco or Kapernick could not run the Falcons offense if their life depended on it, yet, one will be a SB winning QB….But your right, we could not run the ball, and that limited our options to put it all on Ryan shoulders for 60 minutes, dodging blitz’s and thowing into crevices all day against the best Defense in the league.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
6:26 pm
Flacco has to do about half of what Ryan has to do. Kapernick? all he does is looks at the D end. Ryan is a lot like Manning, but notice Manning don’t have a hand full of rings? It is just too much for a guy when it is 1-11.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
6:36 pm
Dropping a snap in scoring position in the middle of a 9 play drive late in the game to follow up on a pick is cracking. Sorry.
What was the key play in the in the Superbowl that everyone says won the game for New Orleans? The onside kick….Yet, what is in effect a turnover to start the 2nd half is key, but having 2 2nd half turnovers is not? Hell, had we just given the ball to turner ever single play in the 2nd half, and punted the ball decent we would not have done any worse.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
6:57 pm
MB,
I don’t think Smitty believed in any hype whatsoever. Dude does what he wants, when he wants, how he wants. I think we’d be hard-pressed to find somebody with more internal focus. Sometimes it probably leads to tunnel vision, which can happen.
But unless his players and CS have been telling him that he can “go air or go nowhere” then it falls on him that he decided not to run the ball. It’s not like the guy reads blogs and goes with what is said there.
That said, I don’t know why things were done. I do know that Julio was shredding SF almost by himself.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
7:00 pm
MB,
I don’t have an issue with ‘Bama RBs. Trenton Richardson didn’t do too badly for a horrible Cleveland Browns squad. Eddie Lacy was tough…Notre Dame wanted no parts of that guy.
Of course, I hear what you’re saying about playing behind a good OL…which makes me wonder how the hell we whiffed on Mike Johnson…he’s been nothing impressive at all for us…not even remotely.
waynester
January 22nd, 2013
7:03 pm
Alright, Fellas–explain to me why we just fired our Strength and Conditioning Coach Jeff Fish….
No?
You can’t?
I can’t either!
The stated reason was “philosophical differences”–what is he a Hare Krishna? Hard-Shell Baptist? Snake Handler?
What is ‘philosophical’ about athletic performance?
This all was leaked–not here at home–but over in Alabama at the Sr Bowl practices…and not to one of our regular beat guys but to Fox Sports.
We’ve spent a ton of Blank’s dough on our AP facilities, which handle a lot of duties–weightroom, dietary, rehab and a lot more. I was under the impression that the guys loved Coach Fish and just look at how few injuries we’ve had over the last couple of seasons and it looks like Fish was doing a heckuva job.
Gonzales, Ryan and a bunch of other guys have given him credit for improving their games through innovative techniques, such as the kettle-bell workouts Tony G volunteered as the reason for his improved performance when asked by a reporter about his remarkable longevity. We’re advancing from within, apparently, as A J Neibel has already been named successor. Despite my glib tone at the outset, this move could make a big difference–for good or ill–in our performance in OTA,Camp and next Season. I certainly wish Neibel all the success in the world but I was a Fish Fan and inquiring minds want to know–WTH?
waynester
January 22nd, 2013
7:06 pm
D3
my post about the catch and release of Coach Fish got swallowed, hook, line and sinker….
The Time is NOW
January 22nd, 2013
7:10 pm
Nice seque…
D3
January 22nd, 2013
7:15 pm
waynester / Ray — Posts are out.
D3
January 22nd, 2013
7:17 pm
WOW
Can’t say I’m surprised…………….
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/football/falcons-release-trainer-jeff-fish/nT4W2/
A source told FOXSports.com that Jeff Fish will not be retained as the director of athletic performance for the Atlanta Falcons. The decision was made because of “philosophical differences,” the source said.
JJ
January 22nd, 2013
7:18 pm
good grief…ill wait!
falcon21
January 22nd, 2013
7:21 pm
LOL JJ.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
7:25 pm
Yea BR, probably right about Smitty….But regardless, we damn near pulled it off, turnovers and all. Like I said, sitting here, if we go 13-3 next year, even 10-6 and get in the playoffs, I will be back thinking we can do it. Winning it the regular season is just not that easy, it just is not.
DePlane
January 22nd, 2013
7:28 pm
Arno! The picture rocks! Thank you!!
The Time is NOW
January 22nd, 2013
7:31 pm
D3 – Do tell why you are not surprised about Fish.
Arno
January 22nd, 2013
7:41 pm
Fish: not getting it done on protecting ham string?
waynester
January 22nd, 2013
7:42 pm
D3
Ditto NOW’s question…..
Unca' Bob
January 22nd, 2013
7:46 pm
Arno,
Sweet!! At long last, I have seen my handle in the high lites. You Da’ Man! Great stuff.
JJ
January 22nd, 2013
7:57 pm
One thought I had through out the day, why are we losing in the 2nd half?
Is it the conditioning coach or smitty that determines these drills? Hate the new “jesse jackson type laws” that the players union forced down the owners throat to get a deal done.
But do we seam ready in the 4th qtr or do we ALWAYS seem onour last breath?
MB…smitty nut hugger…whos responsibility would that be???
Your name on our new arno plaque makes me sick…you are no cage member buddy, your a smoltz or bradly homequeen!
waynester
January 22nd, 2013
7:59 pm
Arno
I actually looked at the logo with my glasses on and now I understand what everybody has been talking about. Before, all I could see was the bird!! Cool stuff–great job…..
JJ
January 22nd, 2013
8:04 pm
f21, sorry buddy…but we will be lucky to finish 11/5, 10/6 next .
I predict 9-7, and thats if were lucky…jmho!
falcon21
January 22nd, 2013
8:05 pm
waynester, I’m not being mean buddy but you just made me spit drink everywhere. LOL.
waynester
January 22nd, 2013
8:06 pm
We weren’t the only team using the Sr Bowl to leak a story away from home and the hometown press corps. Jerry Jones has taken play-calling duties away from Jason Garrett and given them to the O-Line Coach. Now THERE’S a dysfunctional outfit–and somehow they remain one of the world’s most valuable sports franchises after a decade of mediocrity. Why not just FIRE Garrett and get it over with? No–Jerry would rather humiliate the guy publicly to force him to–what? Leave? Kiss his posterior even more fervently? We’re blessed with our current ownership/leadership…..
waynester
January 22nd, 2013
8:07 pm
falcon21
Sorry, bro…..
falcon21
January 22nd, 2013
8:08 pm
It’s all good JJ. I’m seeing about the same result for next season as you are, it all depends on what we do in the off-season.
JB Falcon
January 22nd, 2013
8:15 pm
JJ, 7:57. I guess the inclusion dictates “diversity.” You got to throw one in the bunch or the cage wouldn’t be representative of a free country. It could be worse, but I can’t imagine how. Okay, I thought about it and I can imagine how. There could be two of ‘em!! However, I don’t think there is another person on this world that could match what we are saddled with.
D3
January 22nd, 2013
8:19 pm
Fish — Honestly, I really have no basis for my comments whatsoever. My only thing is that, for whatever reason, we are getting our @sses handed to us physically and have for years. I know that Fish has done a great job with our periphery players, but our OL and DL look like a bunch of JV squad out there. I think generally the NFL isn’t too far off from each other like some college programs are, but our OL and DL have rarely developed worth anything. Add to that our 2nd half physical meltdowns and I could see it. It may very well be what Seminole has preached for awhile about the “disconnect” and Fish is simply a fall-guy. I have no idea, just like no one else does. Maybe TD and Co. are taking away any remaining excuses for Smitty not to deliver. Who the hell knows. But I do like the fact that we are taking “some” action to try and get better. Maybe it was a bad call, but if we won’t to take that last step, we got some serious work to do in the off-season, and getting bigger, tougher, and stronger is a main one. Mike Johnson comes to mind. Maybe he was just a bust, plain and simple, but someone who starts that much for that long for one of the greatest (and most demanding) college head coaches in history in Nick Saban, must’ve done “something” right. Just spitballing here fellas, that’s all.
Arno
January 22nd, 2013
8:23 pm
I wanted to show that one of great things about the Cage is all that we put up with. For me its a real decent quality here. Outstanding.
WR
January 22nd, 2013
8:26 pm
First off, to get the eternal optimist theory out of the way, the Falcons had a very good season. 13-3 in the regular season, beating a very hot and good Seattle team in the post season. But what held true during the regular season, and what was eventually their demise in the NFC Championship, and what’s been a problem for the entire time of this new regime, outside of Abraham and blitzing, the Falcons are hopeless when rushing the QB.
Now to pause for a sec considering that topic, sure the D “REALLY” stands out, but let us please not forget that the O has completely disappears in the 2nd half, which led to so many of the Matt Ryan comebacks. He gets mentioned for that so often, great thing to a point, but their not just having to comeback because there D really isn’t that good, there also having to comeback because there O completely disappears in the 2nd half. Argue the point if you will, its the offseason, so we have alot of time for it, but how often have the Falcons jumped out to great starts this season and for that matter seasons of the past, and just had to hold on or make a last minute drive to secure a victory. Happens just a bit to routinely in my opinion, but I’m Tuesday late night quarterbacking, what are your thoughts?
JJ
January 22nd, 2013
8:31 pm
WR, welcomb back bitch,thank your wife for allowing you to post..
WR
January 22nd, 2013
8:36 pm
Been awhile but JJ, “Jesse Jackson” type law, your point was pretty good, actually the same one I posted about, just don’t get that kind of add in. Innuendo aside, me and a co-worker who’s a Giants fan was wondering if Smitty is going to become the next Andy Reid. While keeping up with the Giants more because he’s from NY, ATL is his adopted team when NYG is not in it, and he too has noticed the collapses. What’s more telling is that we here in the change have been complaining about this for years, BVG, and Murlarkey got the blunt of our blame, their conservative schemes made it so easy, but with the 2 new coordinators whom schemes seen so much more diverse, was it not the same problem, might just be me, but at what point do we question what is the HC asking for at halftime, or is he asking for anything?
WR
January 22nd, 2013
8:38 pm
Funny about the wife JJ, I probably would be mad if it weren’t so true, lol, funny how they have so much time to do all kind of stuff, but if you post for ten minutes, all you do is spend time on the computer chatting about sports.
D3
January 22nd, 2013
8:40 pm
WR — Great to see you back. Excellent point and totally agree. I think it’s just a complete team shutdown, offense included. I guess the offense just gets overlooked because they put up so many points in the first half. This is the same s–t that’s been happening for 4-5 years. I remember back when The Cage first started that it was a major theme. I think we used to call it the 3rd Quarter Slump or something like that. I’m sick of trying to blame everyone else ‘cept Smitty. Dude is the captain of the ship and has all the talent around him he needs. Nearly blew the playoff game that should’ve been a blowout and did blow a huge chance to go and face the Ravens in a VERY winnable Super Bowl. I could be wrong, but I think that Smith just blew his best chance at greatness. Hope I’m wrong, but starting to think I’m not. If someone else takes over and takes us to the promise land with what he started and created, he can always look back at that game.
falcon21
January 22nd, 2013
8:40 pm
WR, good to see you in here. As for your post, very true. As for the problem, we have a long off-season to figure it out, only one person on this blog knows all! He will let us know.
D3
January 22nd, 2013
8:42 pm
funny how they have so much time to do all kind of stuff, but if you post for ten minutes, all you do is spend time on the computer chatting about sports. — WR
QUOTE OF THE DECADE!!!!!!!!! Luckily, my wife just got new iphone for xmas and I and giving her utter hell for all the crap she’s giving me of “always being on the computer” for the last several years.
JJ
January 22nd, 2013
8:45 pm
WR, love ya brother…quit being a stanger!!!
JB Falcon
January 22nd, 2013
8:48 pm
21, 8:40,
WR
January 22nd, 2013
8:53 pm
D3 and Falcons21, good to be back, as for my comments, kind of just tired of everyone pointing out the obvious. The Falcons D wasn’t good when this regime took over, I still remember many wanting Dorsey over, myself included. I have no problem eating crow, but at least give me a decent side, that’s pretty much my argument. Its been Abe, Abe, Abe, and Abe some more, everyone and there unborn, un-thought of kids know that. But the D even with BVG at least did enough to give them a chance while working a full 60 minutes. Why give a O with so many weapons a pass when they usually do about 30 minutes a game, I just don’t get that.
LRD
January 22nd, 2013
8:56 pm
Grimes.. at this point,what is he worth moneywise? He is undersized, he hasn’t played for a year, has he fully recovered from his Achilles tear? Has he kept in shape? What is the money demands he(and his wife) will make?
Dont get me wrong , be nice to get him back.. but if we can parlay him into trades or drafts, we may want to consider those options.
falcon21
January 22nd, 2013
9:07 pm
Great point WR. LRD, if it takes big money for Grimes to be a Falcon, I say no way in heck. Only my opinion.
WR
January 22nd, 2013
9:09 pm
D3, good to know I’m not alone, lol. I will not drag it out but, as a longtime Falcons fan who has surely endured years of struggle, sorry but I’m not sold on Smitty. With that point out of the way, I loved the fact that the Falcons offense moved into the 21st century. Loved the fact that Nolan did wonders with very little offerings. Then I paused, I thought, haven’t we been here before, has anything really changed. Let’s not forget it isn’t as if the Falcons have been blown out in many first halves, they have just no showed in the second half, during, wait for it, wait for it, a time of adjustments. hmmmmm. But not to deviate to far, Dimitroff, can we please get some help for this defensive front seven, and can love Rodgers, might even be the future, but can you please, please, fingers crossed, please, get a replacement for Turner.
JB Falcon
January 22nd, 2013
9:15 pm
LRD, IF Grimes has stayed in shape and can do what he used to do, bad leg and all, with no lateral, I would definitely trade him for some draft picks. Let him be great for someone else. We are going to have to work the FA market to fill some needs and our 30th draft pick is not going to fulfill our needs.
waynester
January 22nd, 2013
9:20 pm
No, Joe
You’re lucky we drafted Matt. Otherwise, you’d have been the one coming to a dysfunctional team which you’d have to carry for several seasons instead of going to a complete team with an awesome defense which carried you to the playoffs and now, the SB. I don’t think you could shoulder the load Matt has while still putting up better numbers than you every year. No, Joe–you’re the lucky one….
WR
January 22nd, 2013
9:31 pm
Not one for answering the hate-mongers but, Flacco, has not your team continued to build around an already good D, has not your team built to improve your O. Coop is probably the steward when it comes to building from the trenches. Not sure if it was injuries or not, but there’s at least been an attempt to build the Falcons OL. Outside of Audray Bruce, I mean Peria Jerry the Falcons haven’t attempted to rebuild their DL, give or take the luck of finding Corey Peters. But in 4 years of running a 4-3 D, the want to be model, bust, Ray Edwards, has been the only option, and I’m being friendly, because Stephen Nicholas isn’t actually getting it done in pass coverage as an LB either, Its hard to say in TD we trust, at least its hard to say in TD I trust, most of his big splashes have paid off, Turner originally, Ryan, Gonzo, and the trade for Julio, but it takes an entire draft to continue to build a team. William Moore is a beast if he can stay off the injury report, Decoud came through a little more this year, Spoon is a stud, Konz looks like he can take over at center immediately, but over 4 years, 5 drafts, Jerry Jones isn’t exactly the GM, but at times it looks like he is.
Greg Mendel
January 22nd, 2013
9:37 pm
Regarding wives, football, computers, and in-laws:
“Women. Can’t live with ‘em, can’t shoot ‘em.” — Steven Wright.
Greg Mendel
January 22nd, 2013
9:42 pm
And another. (This is true.)
My uncle was once asked if he ever thought about divorcing my aunt. “Nope,” he replied, “never did, never once.”
Then he added, “Thought about shooting her, though, many times.”
They had a great marriage.
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
10:17 pm
MB,
If we go 13-3 with next year’s schedule, it will be because we are straight up DOMINATING. I could dig that…
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
10:21 pm
WR,
They’re all control freaks, LOL. Wives, that is…
Big Ray
January 22nd, 2013
10:23 pm
QUOTE OF THE DECADE!!!!!!!!! Luckily, my wife just got new iphone for xmas and I and giving her utter hell for all the crap she’s giving me of “always being on the computer” for the last several years.
Got mine an iphone for anniversary gift last year and got her the new ipad this year as early birthday present.
LOL…haven’t been bugged during games for I don’t know how long….
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
10:42 pm
You guys crack me up, I am a know it all, but most cage member are humble and open minded, right?
But, again, I never call anyone a name, or really personally insult any cage members, it is amazing what alternative thoughts will do.
Again, when we hired Smitty, I figured we were screwed and he would last 2-3 years tops, but he sorta proved me wrong….You really think that it is that easy to win a superbowl? You think if you bring in a guy and say, your pretty much a failure if you “only” get to the championship. We gave it a great run, and unless there is another Harbaugh brother out there, he is our guy…Hell, his team showed up more that B Belichicks did, at least we had a chance to win it.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
10:52 pm
when we hired Smitty, how many of you thought we would go to the playoffs 4 of the next 5 years, and get to the NFC championship game? Really…
And for the window “closing”, Ryan, Roddy, JJ and maybe Spoon will be here awhile, there is not another guy on the roster I even care about to be honest….except of course TG….
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
11:08 pm
BR, I have to admit I like Lacy too, but every run I see, nobody touches him until he gets 5 yards downfield, like I said, the Burner looks good if he gets that type of steam.
I would have to really study to see what he does when hit before he gets going, or how he can find daylight if his assigned hole is not open.
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
11:15 pm
Something else that sucked was loosing Brady Ewing….Think we coulda used a play like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuLt4dhfAwE
Matty Bicep
January 22nd, 2013
11:17 pm
Must have had the wrong clip stick in my browser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llkywgrooNk
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
12:10 am
True, Lacy does get a head of steam. Of course, I think he’s a hair faster than Turner, but…
Anyhow, I think Lacy is a younger, cheaper, quicker version of Turner with less weight to boot. A feature RB? Not all that likely.
We’d probably be better off looking elsewhere if possible. I’d rather add more speed but don’t want another stick-figure Ethiopian like Jerious Norwood…dudes like that just can’t stay healthy for sh!t.
Brady Ewing definitely was missed. He could’ve added a dimension we didn’t have besides a good lead blocker. Ewing could also catch fairly well as I understand it.
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
12:19 am
What trips me out is he actually keeps ahead of the defense.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
7:30 am
MB @ 11:15. I looked at your first clip there, the Drew Davis TD. It reminded me that we never used the quick WR screen to Julio or Roddy or any screens at all. That clip shows how we had used those screens so effectively, that we could fake them to open up other things. So yes, we certainly could have used a play like that when we were in the red zone at the end. No throw in the end zone at all….still smh.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 23rd, 2013
7:38 am
Falcons taking inventory, doing some spring cleaning in January…starting with Jeff Fish.
After being puzzled by the decision to release the strength and conditioning coach, after thinking about it more in-depth, the missing pieces started to come together and the puzzle is beginning to take shape.
In my opinon, the problems started with Fish in training camp, Lofa Tatufu reinjured his pectoral, was Lofa under supervised lifts? Was he accompanied with a trainer during the lift. Losing Lofa did two things, IMO, Wasited A. Blanks money…and madeTD look like an azz.
Off-season injuries to Larmar Holmes, Corey Peters. Did the rehab take longer than it should have for these two linemen to come back from injury?
Chop Buster
January 23rd, 2013
8:01 am
Somebody, the thing that I always questioned was the hamstring injuries to Willie Moe and Chris Owens. If you know a player has a history with hamstring injuries should you be doing things to help strengthen the hamstring and keep it warmed up during games? I never saw Willie Mo riding a bike on the sideline to help keep his hamstring warmed up. Was he hydrated enough? Lot of hamstring injuries are the result of dehydration as well. The bottom line is every team member should have a workout plan for the off season and then another one during the season. We need strong guys in the trenches and I haven’t seen either of our lines pushing anyone backwards.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 23rd, 2013
8:11 am
…Continued on Fish Firing.
Is Grimes rehab/conditioning on schedule? if not, another strike.
Spoon and William Moore, to the untrained eye…took entirely too long to come back from injury? if true, second strike.
There were a number of hamstring injuries, seems if though our players take more healing time, than other teams rehabing this particular injury.
Lastly, When Smith, TD, saw the physical imposing statures (body builds) of of the Seahawks, 9ers, they knew immediately changes had to be made. hahahaha….
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 23rd, 2013
8:25 am
CB, I agree on the hammy injuries. There are preventive measures to lessen the possibility of hamstring injury…hydration, proper stretching are two.
Can’t over-look the importance of warming up (stretching) before a game. You ever notice the collegiate level, hamstring injuries, IMO, are not as prevalent as the NFL, IMHO, it is because the kids warm up together…and the warm up sessions include several stretching exercises, college kids warm ups could last for an hour or so.
Wings
January 23rd, 2013
8:44 am
At some time during and after the game HC Smith said:
“Never let up,” Smith said. “Never give up. … That’s how you’ve got to play this game in the National Football League. Never let up. Never give up. You have to play it for four quarters.”
I hope he has a tape of this quote so he can look in the mirror and understands he needs to hear himself. It’s funny how people say things that usually they themselves are responsible for and don’t do.
This problem must be fixed with a new attitude and with some new players as we have seen it for the past several years.
Chop Buster
January 23rd, 2013
9:02 am
Wings, Smitty is actually saying he has some quitters on the team, because it couldn’t possibly be the playcalling–or lack of aggressiveness. During the Seahawks game when Ryan threw the deep ball TD to Roddy, Smitty said, “Oooo I like that call, that’s aggressive.” LOL
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
9:37 am
The comments on the Jeff Fish firing are interesting. Sounds to me like it was a move just waiting in the wings. I want to see how quickly/efficiently the Falcons make some OTHER moves.
Smitty’s comments about not giving up and playing 4 quarters are not indicative of what happens with his team. I can’t put my finger too solidly on any one thing, so I’m going to say it’s several things.
Playing not to lose, playing too tightly, not making the right adjustments, turning the ball over…something always goes wrong. It’s just too often that it happens for it not to be some sort of issue with the CS, I do know that.
special
January 23rd, 2013
9:38 am
We didn’t have a blocked punt, fake punt, or punt return touchdown all season. We didn’t have a kickoff return touchdown all season. I know these things aren’t common but there was nothing even close. I don’t know the stats, but it seems like we only returned one or two kickoffs to the other side of the 50. During the last game on our first punt, SF went for the block and left our gunner standing alone at the top of the field. Why not have a default to throw the ball to him? Long story, short – fire the special teams coach and get someone in there with some imagination.
Chop Buster
January 23rd, 2013
9:39 am
Which RB would you prefer to replace Turner? De’Anthony Thomas has serious break away speed. Giovani Bernard is another Sprolls (speed and elusiveness).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq_xrTUMQmk
Paddy O
January 23rd, 2013
9:42 am
I rewatched the 2nd half. Our loss really came down to a few plays. the Ryan fumble, HD falling down on the pass, and two oddly called plays – one after the endzone fumble, the other in the final seconds. Ryan rolls out to his right, and tries to throw a pass in the flat – a relatively short pass – both times the SF linebacker (2nd time being blocked by #19 who did not really get a block on him) jumps high and deflects the pass. Our defense really did NOT play badly.
D3
January 23rd, 2013
9:59 am
Great Wednesday Cagers!
Starting to slowly get over the loss, but that 3rd and 4 and 4th and 4 is seared into my memory. Just can’t get those last plays outof my head.
Paddy — True, it came down to a few plays, but if Crabtree doesn’t fumble at the 1 and they score, we really couldn’t even been that close because our defense couldn’t stop them whatsoever. The following quote from Mark Bradley really sums it up for me…….
By watching its defense force punts on the game’s first two series and not again until 13 seconds remained. After falling behind 17-0, San Francisco went: Touchdown, touchdown, end of half, touchdown, missed field goal, fumble at the 1, touchdown.
We can say that it came down to Ryan’s fumble, but if our defense stops them one time after the first quarter, we’re also in the Super Bowl. I know Smitty likes to say that it comes down to a few plays, and to a certain degree that’s true, but there are also tons of plays that perhaps “weren’t made” that could have had the exact same effect.
D3
January 23rd, 2013
10:06 am
Playing not to lose, playing too tightly, not making the right adjustments, turning the ball over…something always goes wrong. It’s just too often that it happens for it not to be some sort of issue with the CS, I do know that. — Big Ray
Well said. You also forgot to mention that Smitty has had his ass saved tons of time by “Matty Ice” coming back with minutes or second left to win the game, when we really shouldn’t have. Hell, I can count three just this year: Panthers #1, Seahawks, and Raiders just this year. Think about how many other games? Love the guy, but he’s on MY hot seat big time this year. Not like that means anything, but he’s bordering on losing most-to-all my confidence he can win the whole thing.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
10:07 am
Paddy O, if not for the odd miscues on offense that you mentioned, we win that game. That’s why, while there were some blown coverages and missed tackles, I have a hard time blaming the defense. Due to Kaepernick’s running and throwing ability, and their excellent run game in general, that is a very hard offense to stop. But we could match them on offense. I texted my brother at halftime that we were going to have to keep scoring. He said, “win with offense?” and I said yes. If not for our own errors, we would have.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
10:10 am
“but if Crabtree doesn’t fumble at the 1 and they score, we really couldn’t even been that close” — D3
But you have to give credit to the defense there. That wasn’t an error on SF’s part; it was a great defensive play by Moore and Robinson.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
10:12 am
Also, holding them to a field goal was good defense. The offense did not score in the second half. Again, I have a hard time blaming the defense.
D3
January 23rd, 2013
10:18 am
I guess I’m just way out in the left field on this one because I see a lot of you blaming the two miscues as the reason we’re not in the Super Bowl. Agreed that Ryan has got to stop making those stupid @ss mistakes, especially late in the game, but it seems we’re also acting like he didn’t throw for almost 400 yards and 3 TDs on one of the best defenses in the league.
Yes, there offense is good, but they gained a full 100 yards less than we did and they were literally unstoppable for 3 straight quarters. We weren’t playing the Montana, Clark, Rice, Taylor, Rathman, Craig Niners. Would we still be having this conversation if the Niners converted their 10 points they left on the field? At that point, even a touchd down by Ryan doesn’t even get us a tie.
I guess I’ll just have to respectfully agree to disagree with those of you who say our defense wasn’t that bad and didn’t cost us the game.
Unca' Bob
January 23rd, 2013
10:21 am
During the Seahawks game when Ryan threw the deep ball TD to Roddy, Smitty said, “Oooo I like that call, that’s aggressive.” LOL- CB
It tells me Smith does not call plays regardless of what some say.
Chop Buster
January 23rd, 2013
10:26 am
Unca’ Bob, I agree Smitty doesn’t per say call plays, but I’m sure he can direct his coordinator when to go into milk the clock mode. Who knows, it’s speculative on what Smitty actually does as far as game planning–but you can’t deny some of the same tendencies still exist even though Mularkey left.
D3
January 23rd, 2013
10:26 am
If nothing else, I’ll just say that the offense and defense were EQUALLY responsible for the loss. The defense was close to as bad as The Debacle in the Dome for 3 quarters and the offense was in full-on pitiful self-destruction mode.
Chop Buster
January 23rd, 2013
10:35 am
D3, I agree it’s a TEAM sport and you have to receive equal play on both sides of the ball. Ryan was still moving the ball in the second half despite not scoring anymore points (we were on the 10 yard line and the game in our hands).
Defense stayed in the zone giving too much respect to Kaepernick. We should have at least allowed the nickle corner to break off with the TE occasionally, if for nothing else, to throw the QB off.
Arno
January 23rd, 2013
10:35 am
I weigh the loss toward the D because of the PF penalties.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
10:39 am
“they gained a full 100 yards less than we did…” yet they won.
I think this just shows that they are a better coached, more disciplined team. When you are lacking in fundamentals and focus, that’s a coaching problem.
Remember when Ryan asked for extra prep before the NY game? And how well the team played that Sunday? Who led that effort, Smitty? or Matty? Seems like Smitty is just not demanding enough — he’s all attaboy and then he blows up on occassion. That will get tuned out sooner or later.
D3
January 23rd, 2013
10:46 am
When you are lacking in fundamentals and focus, that’s a coaching problem. — Geo
Couldn’t agree 100% more with you on this. The entire coaching staff got their tails handed to them in the second half and Smith should be embarrassed. Harbaugh made him look like a chump.
Greg Mendel
January 23rd, 2013
11:23 am
The old saying “can’t see the forest for the trees” is valid, but, frankly, it’s an easy mistake to make. Rehashing individual plays within a single game can tell us something, but identifying patterns (positive and negative) that appeared throughout the season is most valuable.
I can’t see those patterns as well as other Cagers, so I’m not even gonna try to go there. There were, however, some things I couldn’t help noticing again and again (along with everybody else).
1. Weak running game. Turner, almost exclusively, WAS our running game. Over the season, he had a few good runs, but he was stuffed on most attempts, and could not be depended on for short, critical yards. That Quizz (and Snelling, when he was occasionally taken out of the garage) consistently did a better job tells me that replacing Turner with almost any decent young RB would be a 200% improvement.
2. Pass rush. We just don’t have one, and as others have said, a good pass rush improves the secondary.
I won’t get into the O-line. IMO, if we could significantly improve our pass rush and run game, we’d significantly improve the team. We can’t afford all the improvements we want or need, but investing in those two components would make a huge difference.
I could be wrong, of course. Along with death and taxes, it’s one of life’s certainties, according to my wife.
Matty Bicep
January 23rd, 2013
11:56 am
We are a flawed team, but guess what so it ever other team in the NFL, except 1.
But the fact is, we moved the ball at will in the 2nd half. We only punted once, and that was where we were a yard short. Like I said, I evaluate what happened in the game. If we were getting crashed though the A gap, or running Turner into a stacked box, I would say, yes, or tendencies were exposed.
But what we did was turned the ball over, THAT is how we put up 100 more yards, because when you drive the ball for 9 plays and fumble the snap, those are the kind of stats you put up. On offense, I did not see any tightness, other than Ryan. So all you folks how called for more Ryan, for more passing, for a change away from Smitty ball, you got exactly what you wanted. I don’t see how you can really complain about play calling or coaching.
But all that said, it is not fair to Ryan, to say it is all up to you, that you got to keep the throttle down, play 11-1 mentally, throw into teeny window all day while matching wits with the top NFL defense….That just ain’t right….but don’t blame Smittyball, a lot of you got what you wanted.
D3
January 23rd, 2013
12:30 pm
Greg — Excellent points. I’ll add in the OL too. Yes, they played good in the playoffs in terms of pass protection and and did both well vs. the Seahawks. But their run blocking is still very weak. I think one of the problems is obviously Turner and getting a new back will help that. However, we’re still especially weak up the middle. McClure’s done. Konz should move to C and we need to add a new RG in some fashion. Whether that’s moving Clabo inside or just drafting one, it’s gotta get better.
elephanthead
January 23rd, 2013
12:56 pm
I think that if Barrett Jones from Alabama is on the board when our pick comes, you have to jump on him. He gives you options since he was an award winner at center and tackle.
Jones – C Konz – RG Clabo – RT or…Konz – C Jones – RG Clabo – RT or…Konz – C Clabo – RG Jones – RT.
After solidifying the middle of the O-line (where we had the most problems w/ penetration), they can spend all the other picks they want for defense. Also, I would consider dealing 2 guys for draft picks – Grimes and Harry Douglas. I really like Harry, but they dont seem to utilize him much, and I would prefer to have another 2nd round pick for him and grab a LB or FS that can tackle and cant dance.
Paddy O
January 23rd, 2013
12:57 pm
our tackling is a long term problem. DeCoud – who does an excellent job in coverage for a safety – has a serious deficiency – he shoulder tackles too much. I thought McClain played pretty well. OUr big error was NOT having a spy (Nicholas) trailer – so if Nicholas contains Kapernick, who is left to tackle Gore (an excellent runner)? If we had simply employed a trailer, maybe we contain Gore. Our team is exceptionally good at smashing the opposition in the face, knocking him down with a bloody lip. But, for some odd reason we refuse to then immediately set upon kicking the living crap out of the guy when he is down – which is a bad attitude when you are in a cage match to the death. selah. I think with some minimal upgrades – and, keeping Tony G for another season (he really had a GREAT year), we should be right back here next year. the future is still very, very bright. Our defense came prepared really to stop the run. OUR problem is zone coverage – did we play a lot that during the regular season?
Paddy O
January 23rd, 2013
12:58 pm
Moore would be the trailer guy. He likes to hit. We MUST find a good upgrade for Mike Pete.
darrell starks
January 23rd, 2013
1:01 pm
I WANT SEND A SHOUT 2 FALCONS ORGANIZATION.
Falcons will be back next year with a high power team.
THANKS FOR A GREAT SEASON.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
January 23rd, 2013
1:07 pm
SMITTY ON D BLOCK
BLACK RED FOR EVER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN0rlwFjiss&list=UUzjCfV3LHyarKbdb-2ScGZg&index=3
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greg Mendel
January 23rd, 2013
1:19 pm
All season, I felt like the team was playing while still trying to make the transition from Mularkey/van Gorder to Koetter/Nolan. Seems to me that TD and the coaches need to make sure they’re all on the same page, agree on the plan outlined on that page, and make decisions that fit the plan.
They don’t have to blow the whole team up, but I think they should make some hard decisions based on player performance and capabilities. IMO, some players have stayed too long. Some may be good, but don’t fit. I’m thinking of the “hybrid” talk before the season, and how “hybrid” can mean “stopgap” or “tapdancing.”
As trademark said, this process is taking longer than it should.
D3
January 23rd, 2013
1:24 pm
I am by no means trying to say that I’m a “cap-ologist,” but the website Spotrac.com is pretty helpful, even if it does take a decoder to read sometimes, but here’s my insanely weak early estimates on cap space coming off the books……
Svitek – 2.381
Grimnes – 10.281
Gonzo – 5.9
Chris Hope – .640
McClure – .990
Moore – .840
MPete – .990
Owens – .787
Vance – 1.260
I came up with $24,069,000 million just with guys coming off the books. I’m sure some will be eaten up with dead money (Edwards) and other things I haven’t accounted for, but still, even over $20 mill in cap space, that’s not bad. Throw in 5.5 for Turner and it goes close to almost $30 mill.
I know that we’ll have to re-sign Willy Mo and likely Sam Baker as well, but that should eat all of it up. I know many will think I’m crazy and should be shot on site, but I’m fairly ambivalent about Gonzalez coming back. Don’t get me wrong, I would love to have him back, but if he doesn’t come back we should have more than enough weapons to make up for him, if we get a dynamic back and beef up our OL.
FRESH----Need another cold one!
January 23rd, 2013
1:46 pm
Wouldn’t you love to have been a fly on the wall in that Monday morning meeting with Blank, Thomas D, and Coach Smith. A Blank ” I’m trying to build a new F#@*king stadium and you Motherf@#*%! ……….”
I am 100% sure that was in there somewhere. Lol
D3
January 23rd, 2013
1:58 pm
I can’t say I disagree with this very much to be completely honest. Barring big changes in personnel on defense, the lines, and most importantly, transplanting Smitty’s coaching beliefs, strategies, and philosophy, I could totally see this happening…….
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/mark-bradley/2013/jan/23/why-2013-will-be-more-difficult-falcons/
Greg Mendel
January 23rd, 2013
2:24 pm
D3, I agree on Gonzalez. It would be great to have him back, but replacing him long-term will have to happen sooner than later. I also agree that an above average RB would ease the pain. And if they’re not going to use Snelling, find somebody else.
BTW, Paddy O hit the nail on the head with “tackling.” That was another glaring problem all season.
Paddy O
January 23rd, 2013
3:03 pm
I’ll have to get the sheet, but I charted each play in the 2nd half for us on offense – run or pass; then rated said play – anything gaining over 4 yards was a “good” play. We took two long shots down the field. Whomever stated we never targeted JJ in the 2nd half was wrong. He caught a pass and had a deep ball batted away. We took a 2nd deep ball to RW, but he was covered AND the ball was a little short – but, it was a long way. considering how “good” SF’s defense was considering, we ripped it wide open. Even in the 2nd half – we moved the ball pretty much at will exept for the endzone fumble. really, the SF defense really came through at that point.
Paddy O
January 23rd, 2013
3:04 pm
after watching the replay last night, i was again bummed out for about 2 hours. at that point I fell asleep. Falcons had a terrific season – and I count on TD to make our team better. If only we had signed Dahl and Weems . . . . . .
Paddy O
January 23rd, 2013
3:07 pm
nah – you guys are nuts – if you can get Tony G back, you get him. I’ll give Dunta Robinson some praise – he played with a lot passion out there.
D3
January 23rd, 2013
3:33 pm
Paddy — You’re right, I would love to have him back. What would you pay him, though? We have to spend money getting this defense in order, IMO.
Greg — I’m averse to spending money on a FA RB, especially when teams have shown that you can draft one, even fairly low (Alfred Morris, etc) and they can come right in and have an impact. I still stand by this draft order……
1st) DT, no way under 320+ lbs
2nd) Best OG
3rd) Best RB
I could switch DT and RG and that would be fine.
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
3:40 pm
I think that if Barrett Jones from Alabama is on the board when our pick comes, you have to jump on him. He gives you options since he was an award winner at center and tackle.
Oh, absolutely. Why? Because he’s an ass-kicker. And that is what we need more of.
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
3:55 pm
RE – the comments about our defense not losing us the game. No, they didn’t lose the game all by themselves. But they hurt us bad.
Again, went into the half up 24-14. Started off 17-0. Yeah, we need the offense to keep going. A valid running game (and the decision to push it) would help.
But can’t NOT lay a good part of this on the defense.
I can think of another team that is headed to the SB. Their QB threw for a paltry 240 yards and 3 TDs. It’s all that was asked of him, and he delivered. That QB had the help of a couple of RBs. Not a whole lot, but about 108 yards worth.
There were 36 pass attempts, 33 rush attempts. Quite the balance, no?
But here’s the thing – that QB and his team were facing one of the most prolific offenses in the League and possibly the league’s best HC.
They scored 28 points. Should have been enough to win a game, right? But would it be enough against a dangerous high powered offense that had been putting up almost 35 per game in the regular season and scored 41 in the divisional game?
Nah, it wouldn’t be enough.
So how did this team with a QB completing 58% of his passes for 3 TDs and RB who got 1 TD win?
Defense.
That high-flying, powerful offense ran smack into a defensive wall that took the League’s best QB, and…while never sacking him even once, made him complete just 53% of the 54 pass attempts he made, intercepted him twice, and allowed him only 1 TD.
Build your defense right. Coach it right.
And 24 points becomes enough….
Baltimore 28, New England 13…’nuff said.
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
4:01 pm
D3 ,
I agree on the premise of drafting a RB vs. going free agency, but have you considered the ummm….Apprenticeship Program?
Rodgers was pretty much ready to go on a lot of things from day 1. However, it’s been 2 years and have we really seen him turned loose yet? Dude has never played even one game getting the lion’s share of the carries…just to see what he can do with them.
And you know what? I don’t think we ever will. Now, I’m fine with that if we get an actual feature RB. Otherwise, I’m wondering if we’ll stick with a so-called platoon of Rodgers and a “pound it” RB…
I personally want a slash ‘em/gash ‘em RB who has enough size to take a beating and even put some on the defense.
Greg Mendel
January 23rd, 2013
4:12 pm
I was thinking of drafting a running back, not an FA. We don’t need a star. Just a kamikaze who can break for a big gain now and then, but doesn’t go backwards half the time. If he can catch a pass, better still.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
4:15 pm
All we needed was a touchdown or a couple of field goals in the second half — damn you defense, why did you put us in such a terrible position!?!
Sorry, BR, I’m not taking shots. I just have a different view on the defense, and a big part of that is that I didn’t expect them to do anything other than what they did, that is, just enough for us to win the game.
And re: the running game. Early in the second half we had a three and out, or a short possession and punt or whatever. But I really think we lost the game with that possession. And the reason is, is that we had run Turner for six yards, and instead of sticking with the running game for four yards and a first, we threw two short and incomplete passes. Aikman said at that point that it was a big stop for SF, but that really rang hollow. What he meant was ATL gave them a gift. SF didn’t really do anything; we just got stupid. Yeah, you do win games by running for a first down, and that doesn’t just apply to the final, close out possession either.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
4:17 pm
I should add that it was second and four. Turner was a first down run.
D3
January 23rd, 2013
4:19 pm
Thinking a little more about, the answer is yes, I would love to get Gonzo to come back for one more year. I wouldn’t want to prohibit the rest of our cap situation, and I’m sure he wouldn’t request an un-Godly contract since he’s such a great player and a great guy. He should be able to take his time to decide, but here’s a few options if he doesn’t come back…..
1) Draft a TE in later rounds and roll with Palmer and Coffman as a dual-type of blocking/receiving type combo while HD, a #4 receiver, and new HB pick up some of Gonzo’s touches.
2) Draft a TE early. Despite what some pundits are saying, this would be an absolutely disastrous decision. I learned about value in terms of OL and DL and key picks from Coop and falcon21. Gronk, Jimmy Graham, and Aaron Hernandez all drafted 2nd round or later. Early picks have NOT panned out. Few off the top of my head: Kyle Rudolph, Brandon Pettigrew, Jermaine Gresham.
3) Take a look at potential free agent Jared Cook out of Tennessee. I remember following him before we traded for Gonzo in 2009. From North Gwinnett HS and went to SC. He is an athletic freak stuck in a crappy offense and, unless they use the franchise tag on him, is way gone from the Titans. He is an athletic, fast, and big TE that won’t replicate Gonzo obviously, but would add another dimension to this offense and stretch the field. Wouldn’t think it would take too much to sign him.
http://www.nfl.com/player/jaredcook/71265/profile
Matty Bicep
January 23rd, 2013
4:30 pm
Early in the 2nd half we had a 3 and out…that is just not true.
The half opened with SF driving for a TD to go down 3 than:
Our first possession was 6 plays (2 runs, 4 passes) for 33 yards, it ended in a pick on the 44 on 2nd down
Our 2nd possession was 9 plays, 6 runs, 3 passes, for 44 yards ended on a fumble on the 37 on 2nd down.
Our 3rd possession was 3 and out from the goal line.
Our 4th possession was that final one.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/gameflash/2013/01/20/5293/#playbyplay
Matty Bicep
January 23rd, 2013
4:36 pm
I forgot Ryan called a timeout on our 2nd down of our first possession in the 2nd half….that was a sign.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
4:37 pm
Midway through the second. Four and out. Point still holds.
Matty Bicep
January 23rd, 2013
4:37 pm
2nd quarter?
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
4:39 pm
“I forgot Ryan called a timeout on our 2nd down of our first possession in the 2nd half….that was a sign.”
Yes, that speaks to the lack of focus/coaching problem. Ryan said something like “G-d damn it, guys!”
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
4:40 pm
Yep, should have been establishing the run at that point, maintaining possession and keeping the defense off the field. These things come back to bite you.
Matty Bicep
January 23rd, 2013
4:47 pm
Yea, I remember that, we tried that little wheel screen to Quizz and they were all over it…..But we all know Smitty is dammed if you do, damned of you don’t. Had we ran it and got stuffed….I could hear it now.
It just seems like everyone wanted to see this fast break team, but that is not what we are, nor is it want you need to be to win championships. The Ravens ran the ball 33 times for 108 yards, that is a 3.2 YPC….John Harbaugh played Smittyball.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
4:58 pm
And we could run on them. After the missed field goal, we ran it well.
Jacquizz Rodgers rush to the left for 7 yards
Jason Snelling rush to the right for 12 yards
Jacquizz Rodgers rush to the left for 9 yards
Jacquizz Rodgers rush to the right for 2 yards to the SF42.
Note that is our run game without Turner. Love what he’s done for the team, but think we kept him one year too many.
Anyway, offense mostly had it goin on and just stopped themselves with turnovers. And still it came down to their defense beating our offense at the 10. That’s why I can’t fault any one thing too much. Just a tough loss. If, if, if….
Paddy O
January 23rd, 2013
5:05 pm
We’ll win with the passing attack and a dynamic feature back who has lateral agility. However, Turner played pretty darn well in the playoffs – but, it was not between the tackles. If Ryan does NOT fumble, we score. If HD does NOT trip on his feet, very good chance for a TD. the pick does not bother me. Our D got a turnover and forced them to kick a missed field goal. IN the first half, they had them stuffed when that BS roughing the QB call was made (but no call when Ryan is tackled after he releases the ball and separated his shoulder? reallly NFL? really?). I think we would have been better with Massaquo out there vs. ABE – but, ABE should have never gotten hurt. Mike Smith has a bad habit of coming back and biting you in a myriad of ways. I thought the Octopus played adequately.
Paddy O
January 23rd, 2013
5:21 pm
JJ had a really, really amazing game.
Matty Bicep
January 23rd, 2013
5:27 pm
You know, I thought a lot of JJ, had we not made the trade…our bare cupboard can be attributed to JJ….But without the trade, do we get farther than we did with a little more infrastructure type players we lack?
I sincerely doubt it, screw it, the football gods declared this the year of the Harbaugh…I am just glad we put on a better show than the great Bill Belichick did. I just hope this ain’t as good as it gets.
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
5:29 pm
Still, the 2013 Falcons figure to open camp with a new feature back – the Rams’ Steven Jackson can become a free agent, FYI – working behind a reconfigured offensive line and perhaps a new tight end. And the offense has long been the more settled platoon; the 24th-rated defense remains a unit in need of heft and talent. (Also FYI: The smart money has the Falcons switching to a 3-4 next season.)
Man, do I ever hope that Bradley is right.
That said, the transition may not be as quick as we like. Might see some growing pains during the season, progressing as we go. Then again, with a 3-4 mastermind like Nolan…it might not be so bad at all.
We shall see.
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
5:33 pm
Geo,
I disagree. And I have no more to say to you about it.
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
5:50 pm
Shhhhhhhhh…..here he comes.
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
5:50 pm
Shhhh….he is back!!!
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
5:51 pm
What’s happening Cage!! I’m back. Been too long…
First, much love and care for the Birdman and his situation. Been there bro…and in time, like it took me, you will be back. Stay strong!!
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
5:54 pm
I hate to say I told you so…but I told you so. I warned you in the spring of LAST year that was a serious disconnect within the confines of the Branch. We went into last season with that fact. After last season, BVG was allowed to leave for Auburn and Mad Mike went to JAX as their coach. I again warned you that there was STILL a disconnect at the Branch.
And here we are…..January 2013 and in the words of Toni Braxton, we are singing yet again, Another Sad Love Song after the Falcons broke our hearts once again.
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
6:01 pm
Oh, we terminate the strength and conditioning coach. There were “differences in philosophy” we are told. Really? I wonder why so many players cited the improvements in their overall conditioning and gave credit to Jeff Fish for it? Sorry, this dawg (like that, D3) doesn’t hunt.
“Differences in philosophy”. How about the inability for the THIRD year in a row for Tim Lewis to give us a secondary that displayed improved coverage skills, tackling skills, and overall improved effort against the pass?
How about a defensive team that has THREE defensive coordinators on staff and REGRESSED in EVERY category this season. Yeah…Yeah…Yeah. Tell me all about the turnovers we got; the forced plays we got. Yeah..Yeah. I will remind you that Zach Miller, ZACH MILLER, had a career day against our pass defense. This with THREE coordinators; none of which had a damned clue about how to make adjustments in the flow of a game. And we thought it was all BVG?
You were warned….
JB Falcon
January 23rd, 2013
6:06 pm
Welcome back SW!!
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
6:06 pm
You were warned that this team did not have a plan or strategy for developing players. We saw that in clear evidence as the pass rush, already weak from the start, disappeared (or as Big Ray would say, went into WP) after the injury to Abraham. You were warned that this team needed to make the move to the 3-4 defense before the season started because it was smaller and faster than what it needed to be to execute a quality 4-3 effort. You were warned that our LBs were horrid in coverage.
You were warned that the rushing defense was suspect…but the Brank thinktank made you think that the skill set of Lofton was a liability in the process. How did those 100 plus tackles look in retrospect?
Did any other LB even come close to looking like they had a clue in run defense?
LBs….or should I say our collection of special team players posing as LBs….Nicholas, Dent, and even my man Spoon. I spent too much damned time looking at their backs this season. Change must come.
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
6:11 pm
You were warned that this lack of intensity, this lack of mission focus, came from the top. Oh, we took heat (some deserved) for being so critical for opposition to some of the moves. But in the end, it was the same old beat…with the same old results.
An offense that could have been lethal (and was at time)…but one that was restrained by a manager on the sideline that has NO DAMNED business interfering with offensive football.
A defense with THREE coordinators that could not effectively stop opponents when the need was clear. A defense that could not figure out how to stop Cam Newton; a defense that allowed Zack Miller to be dominate; a defense that disappeared for extended periods in EVERY game this season.
falcon21
January 23rd, 2013
6:13 pm
Welcome back SW, been too long!
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
6:16 pm
Beforre you attack me, just pause for a moment. Reflect on what you saw this season. We won 14 games. We won a division. We went to the NFC title game. I get that.
But take the HARD, COLD look at what you saw this year. A team that THREE years ago, was one of the top FIVE in rushing could not run to the damned bathroom!! A team that was horrid in pass protection looked pretty decent this season with the SAME crew minus one guy. The same left tackle that was so HORRID in past years actually turned in a fairly good year. Two thousand yard WRs, a TE that ruled when used effectively. An offensive coordinator that taught us what a REAL offense can be if allowed to open up. Ohhhhhhh there was so so much to be happy about.
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
6:20 pm
But where was the discipline? The focus? Think of the silly 15 yard penalty that Nicholas got in the game on Sunday that sustained a scoring drive for SF. He was not alone. There were other during the year. Why was Snelling not given a chance to “energize” the rushing attack when Turner could not get in gear? Quizz was the third down back we knew he could be….impressive in all facets of his play.
Tell me why Robinson and Samuel were still playing as off the line as they were in the BVG scheme when it was Robinson and Grimes? Tell me why Peria Jerry is STILL a Falcon? Why did we not send Sidbury packing with Edwards? Neither did anything in 2013 that you can point to as signficant.
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
6:21 pm
Oh, Arthur was broken up after the game. I would be too. The Governor just told you to find another $100 million of your own money for a stadium we do not need right now….and your defense just made us look silly again by not understanding basic football fundamentals.
You were warned…
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
6:26 pm
Back in a few….just wanted to throw some things out there. Think about it.
We can get rid of a conditioning coach who is credited with doing fine work by team members. The greatest tight end ever to play said Fish definately enhanced his career tenure.
But this same management group can not even make CRITICAL adjustments in the flow of a game as CRUCIAL as the NFC title game?
Remember, you were warned.
Back a little later…I promise.
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
6:31 pm
3-4 defense. Go back and check the archives. See where the TeePee said a guy like Seattle’s Red Bryant would be a fine anchor for our defense. He was a FA but we did not make the move. We spent 10 million on Brent Grimes when we could have also had a nice CB in Richard Marshall for cheaper..
Recall those of us that pleaded for the chance to move Biermann outside to OLB and see what could be done…knowing that he was too light in the pants to be an everydown DE; knowing that he excelled as a OLB in high school and early in college before transitioning to DE.
Recall, you were warned?
The Time is NOW
January 23rd, 2013
6:40 pm
Back with a vengeance SW. Welcome back!
I’m sure the teepee will provide some insight towards the offseason debate for how to be elite next year.
Paddy O
January 23rd, 2013
7:10 pm
the floodgates have been opened . . . . .
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
8:09 pm
The question is simple. When is this defensive minded regime going tomake the REAL investment in the defense? When will we stop looking for band aid fixs to prominent problems?
Dunta Robinson? Asante Samuel? Flash players; lacking in core fundamentals but will stimulate a crowd with the occasional Sportscenter hit (and more often take themselves out of the play) than a solid, fundamental approach to coverage and tackling.
The linebackers? Will we invest, via the draft or free agency, in the acquistion of talent that can come in and immediately make a difference in the linebacker core?
3-4 defense? Will we switch?
Big, run stuffing tackles like UGA’s John Jenkins, Purdue’s Kawann Short, and the Tide’s Jesse Williams will all be there at the end of the first round….we could begin the transition to the 3-4 by getting that big interior presence we need to STUFF the interior. Or if the team insists on staying with the 4-3, we, again can beef up the interior presence with the pick up of one of these DTs.
OLB….Hey Falcons, take a look at Chase Thomas of Stanford. Dude can play the strongside in the 4-3 and would be a beast of a pass rushing LB in a 3-4 scheme. More from the Cocoa Mel in the coming weeks as we move towards the draft. And trust me, more from Stanford on the big board.
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
8:19 pm
My good friend said that the floodgates have been opened. He is abolutely correct.
But it was not the TeePee that opened them. We just pointed out that this B movie, the disconnect that prevails at Flowery Branch, was not SOLELY the misguided thoughts of BVG and/or Mad Mike. They were contributing elements for sure. But we can see that the music did not stop when those dance partners left the dance hall.
We ran Emmitt Thomas out of town after a horrid defensive secondary performance after the 2008 season and the 2009 playoff loss to Arizona. Did we not just see even WORSE from the Tim Lewis led secondary? We are waiting?
DL coach? Has the Sugar Bear’s day in the sun past? Rod Marinelli is out there. One of the best DL coaches in the past 10 years or so…sucked as a HC (Detroit) but look at his defenses in Tampa and Chicago. Oh damned…..too late – Jerry and Dallas just goobled him up!!
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
8:21 pm
A lot of folks are going to call for a greater focus on lines, both offensive and defensive. But I tell you now. If this front office does not invest in DEFENSE extensively in the draft and SMARTLY in free agency, then we will be sitting RIGHT here next January in the same state of disappointment we are feeling right now. YOU CAN CASH THAT CHECK!!!
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
8:28 pm
If you are going to play a soft zone defense, then follow the script of one of the best ever to do it. Draft and develop your defense in the mold of the great Tampa 2 defenses of Tony Dungy and Monte Kiffin. Or as Mike Singletary would say, “I want players”….”winners”; winners in spirit.
Say what you may..it is missing.
Recall the UGA safety calling out his team near mid season. An immensely talented defense was just going through the motions; but that fire, that call to arms – it awakened a sleeping giant. For the rest of the season, the defense was dominate, fighing all the way to the SEC title game. It went toe to toe with the best OL in college football and gave its offensive counterparts a fighting chance to win it all.
I would take that young defense and that heart over the latter half of the season OVER what I saw from the Falcons in the latter half of the season. And please, do not give me the line about they are college players. They were coached by a DC with NFL pedigree, one that several teams had on the list as an NFL DC; Oh yeah….I think a few of those guys will come off the board in the first round of April’s festivities.
If that heart, that leadership, that ability to “rise up” can be found in the defense at UGA; tell me how in the hell can THREE defensive coordinators not find it within the confines of the Falcons locker room?
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
8:34 pm
Hot damn, SW is back….and blowin’ that horn hard enough to throw a lung out….take it easy bro.
But yeah, we are definitely ready for some draft and free agency talk….though it’s a marathon at this point…months to go before the draft.
Big, run stuffing tackles like UGA’s John Jenkins, Purdue’s Kawann Short, and the Tide’s Jesse Williams will all be there at the end of the first round
I’ve been looking up some stuff on Kawann Short. We’ll see how this goes. Been keeping up the preaching about a 3-4 defense for some time, while you’ve been away.
Hope you’ve got your strength back….we’ll need you in this winter of an offseason.
Arno
January 23rd, 2013
8:38 pm
Back to Gonzalez for a sec. Will miss the chemistry he had with Ryan, but not worried about it. Ryan has the skill to raise the game of the people around him.
BUT–
I still have a bad uneasy feeling about Gonzalez’ retirement. We did not bring him in as part of the “process.” Tony was there to get us to the Super Bowl. Period. They knew how many years he had. Time’s up. We wait on his final decision. What is his thinking? He leaves now, what does that say about his view of Coach Mike Smith? It tells me Gonzalez believes Smith had the time to get it done, but could not get it done, and WILL NOT get it done. Plus Gonzalez, there were a couple other guys saying the Time was Now. Look at the pic D3 posted up top of Blank and Dimitroff. Don’t light a match next to them. If, big if, Gonzalez stays, that tells me that he still thinks Smith can get it done. If Gonzalez retires, that is NOT a vote of confidence for Smith.
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
8:38 pm
Free agency. I see where some are looking at Steven Jackson. Wrong move. Another band aid. Dude has a lot of wear on the tires and is 30 years old already. Pass on him. Build for the future; go get the likes of a Stephan Taylor from Stanford or Eddie Lacy from Alabama.
Tight End….what could a wasting talent like Jared Cook of the Titans do with a REAL quarterback? Dude is only 26 years old….so his best may still be ahead. Pull the trigger!!
SeminoleWarrior
January 23rd, 2013
8:52 pm
How about a 330 pound, 26 year old defensive tackle that could be a starter on most teams as a run stuffing plug but can get into the lineup in the Motor City because he is stuck behind Suh and the we have to justfy the pick choice from Auburn….Fairley.
Sammie Lee Hill could be that anchor for a 3-4 transition or the plug for the re-tooling of our 4-3.
How about going after that interior run stuffer in Tampa, Roy Miller. That 310 pounder is pretty good at that. As a matter of fact, that Tampa 2 defense was NUMBER ONE in the NFL against the run. And their largest DT….310 pound Roy Miller.
Big Ray
January 23rd, 2013
9:04 pm
If Gonzalez retires, that is NOT a vote of confidence for Smith.
Quite possible.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
9:05 pm
I do wish the Falcons front office was a quick on the uptake as the Cage.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
9:08 pm
Also a vote for Stephan Taylor, although I also like Jason Snelling, and there’s a kid named Antone Smith. Just think if we had a running game, what they could do….
Wabe
January 23rd, 2013
9:37 pm
Good to see you back in here, SW.
Real quickly though, I’m with Big Ray on our DT need. I’m not particularly interested in anybody that’s not a legitimate NT that could anchor a 3-4 NT position. If they’re talented enough to command double teams, than we can roll with them. But, I don’t think we have a need just for a run stuffer. We’re in desperate need of finding a big body that’ll take some pressure off our ends in passing situations.
falcon21
January 23rd, 2013
10:08 pm
The only disconnect I see at the Branch is AB wants to win the big game now. That puts pressure on TD to make moves that maybe he should not make, like Ray Edwards. Also, I love the move for JJ but it has put us in a bind. It’s hard to build the D or O with very few early round draft picks. I never understood giving Grimes 10+mil, it was not worth tying up that much money. I would love to have TG back but can we afford him? Money is tight. I will admit that part of the disconnect is our benched for life players, it is just hard to figure out, if they suck that bad, why the hell are they still on the team?
rock
January 23rd, 2013
10:08 pm
In the NFL rules :
“The defensive player cannot use his hands or arms to push from behind, hang onto,
or encircle an eligible receiver in a manner that restricts movement as the play develops”
with a five yard limit.Why wasn’t this rule enforced in the Falcons/Niners when Roddy
White was trying to catch a pass with a little over a minute to go in the game?
This was a clear foul.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
10:23 pm
@rock, there is a good reason the foul was not called. At that point in the game, it serves NFL fans best to force the offense to make a play, rather than insert the officiating into the action. If it is flagrant enough, it would force the official’s hand, but it wasn’t. All that said, we got the raw end of a strict interpretation of the rule book (the roughing the passer), and, ironically, no rule to allow the easy call of driving a defensely QB with your full weight into the turf. Further, that “foul” could have been avoided, while the glancing blow to the helmet could not, even though IT was a legitimate football move.
Geo
January 23rd, 2013
10:26 pm
*defenseless
henryinga
January 24th, 2013
7:01 am
Can someone tell me how to register in the comment sections of the other articles in the AJC?
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
7:20 am
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/colin-kaepernick-applying-trademark-kaepernicking-like-tebowing-san-francisco-49ers-quarterback-kisses-own-bicep-012313
…And you thought Cam Newton was bad. Somebody needs to hurt this boy.
trademark
January 24th, 2013
7:37 am
Quick analysis of the upcoming schedule…D-Led, unfortunately, did some very lazy reporting here….
“The Falcons will face five teams during the 2013 season that made the 2012 playoffs after they played against just two playoff qualifiers this season.”
Ummm…the schedule THIS year had 5 Playoff opponents from 2011 on it….Denver, New Orleans(x2), Detroit, and the N.Y. Giants. The Schedule makers this season tried a real hatchet job on us, and it failed (which was fun).
For your consideration:
-No consecutive Home games in a row.
-5 Playoff teams from last season.
-A West Coast game(San Diego) following a Monday Night game (Denver).
-Following West Coast trip, a division opponent who played on Thursday a week before (three extra days rest). (Carolina)
-Played a team coming off a bye week, when we weren’t coming off of ours (Oakland)
-After our Bye week, not only had to play a team ALSO coming off of theirs, but one that was UNDEFEATED in those games (Philadelphia).
My point is, for those in the media complaining about the “easy” schedule of Atlanta in 2012, please look at the details. Next year could wind up exactly the same. Look, we can’t control what other teams do. We just have to make sure we win these games.
What IS harder about next year’s schedule, is that 4 of those 5 opponents were division winners, so the quality has gone up. That’s about it, so far. We’ll see what other wrinkles the NFL scheduling office throws at Atlanta this year.
trademark
January 24th, 2013
7:37 am
blog monster, D3
SG
January 24th, 2013
7:57 am
Big Ray – I saw that and immediately wondered what Harbaugh thinks of that. On one hand you can say here’s a very young turk overcome by the phenomenal situation he’s enjoying and acting, well, sorta young. On the other hand you can wonder if his ego’s so large it needs to apply for statehood.
With all the attention he’s been getting over the last half of the season – magnified by the success in the playoffs, it was telling that one of Harbaugh’s initial remarks after the victory here was to the effect “….everyone does a little. it all adds up to a lot…..”. It’ll be interesting to watch how the relationship of the “One for all, all for one” Coach and the “I don’t like to be categorized’ QB evolves.
Wings
January 24th, 2013
8:00 am
And here is another thing that needs to change which is indicative of how the HC does things:
Dominique D. Davis should be developed and should be the back up to Matt Ryan. It is crazy that he is never heard from again.
Besides I am tired of seeing Luke McCown try to “suck-up” to Matt Ryan in every game. I have noticed he just will not let MR2 think on the sidelines.
SG
January 24th, 2013
8:07 am
Hmmmm, Revis and Jake Long probably available.
SG
January 24th, 2013
8:33 am
@Arno Fine Job!
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
8:37 am
SG ,
Good points. It will be interesting. And I expect the Ravens to rip Kaepernick a new one.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
8:41 am
Wings ,
Man, I thought I was the only one that saw that. There is not a damn thing that McNown can tell Ryan. Not ONE THING. And Davis needs to learn.
But there it is – Smitty’s damn Apprenticeship Program.
FRESH----Need another cold one!
January 24th, 2013
9:07 am
@ BR, i agree with you the Ravens have all the defensive equipment. A good line, solid LB corps, ball hawking DBs and an agressive coach.
trademark
January 24th, 2013
9:10 am
Blog Monster! D3- you there?
Coop
January 24th, 2013
9:24 am
SW – Welcome back Zoomie! Missed you brother.
I agree with all your points and it highlights my biggest fear. Smitty aint the right guy…
Just simply no excuse for this team to lose that game. Hell, no excuse for them to have lost a single game. Way too much talent that was so poorly used at times.
I hope we can move forward next year, but I just have zero confidence in Smitty. Sorry guys, I’m not happy about it, but 17-0 in the NFC Championship game should be a lock for the Superbowl. should have never gotten close again.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL TRUTH
January 24th, 2013
9:27 am
SW, welcome back BROTHER! You were on FIRE!
Good to see you back in here, hope everything is good on the home-front…and looking forward to see the in-depth Tee Pee Sports analysis (projections) on the up-coming Falcons draft prospects.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 24th, 2013
9:29 am
*THE TRUTH
SG
January 24th, 2013
10:42 am
It would be fantastic to have SW as FOX’s color commentator for ATL games.
Welcome back SW – you’ve been missed.
Paddy O
January 24th, 2013
10:55 am
some interesting musings: If Ryan does NOT fumble or throw the pick, we put up 500 passing yards against SF and win going away. Our offense CRUSHED SF. We were also running the ball pretty well when we chose to – we just can’t run it between the tackles. Quizz has now elevated his pass protection ability – he is excellent – he can see the field VERY well, and reacts well – even when position incorrectly. If we got a PURE speed RB who could also return punts – that would be a sweet move. Regarding the 3-4 – do we rotate Peters as the nose guard (to spell the next monster we draft)? and use V Walker, Babs, the Octopus and Massaquo -plus Abe as the DE’s? Bierman to LB? We need MORE fast LB’s who’ll bring the wood. WE also need a serious upgrade over DeCoud and CB depth. I’d be OK with our Oline if we simply shifted the guys on the roster around. Cocoa Mel – the best talent evaluator on the contintental US!
Paddy O
January 24th, 2013
10:57 am
considering Kapernick has bible verses tattoed all over – you’d think he would understand the ethos of humility and being humble. but, that is not the current narcissists R US climate of the USA.
Paddy O
January 24th, 2013
10:59 am
BR – if the apprentice program produced good quality product at the end of the tunnel, it would be one thing – but it appears to be just a transition into the witness protection program – until a vet starter is hurt – then the guy gets thrown in there.
D3
January 24th, 2013
11:13 am
Great Thursday Greetings Cage!
Seminole — WELCOME BACK BROTHER!!!!! YOU’VE BEEN SORELY MISSED!!!!!!
considering Kapernick has bible verses tattoed all over – you’d think he would understand the ethos of humility and being humble. but, that is not the current narcissists R US climate of the USA. — Paddy O
Man, you got that right! Bible verses on your arm and you act like a complete jack@ss and are trying to make money off “your move.” Just give it time big boy, you didn’t even play half of an NFL season. You’re time will come. Product or a great running game and excellent defense and not much more.
trademark
January 24th, 2013
11:25 am
OK, in sections then….
uick analysis of the upcoming schedule…D-Led, unfortunately, did some very lazy reporting here….
“The Falcons will face five teams during the 2013 season that made the 2012 playoffs after they played against just two playoff qualifiers this season.”
Ummm…the schedule THIS year had 5 Playoff opponents from 2011 on it….Denver, New Orleans(x2), Detroit, and the N.Y. Giants. The Schedule makers this season tried a real hatchet job on us, and it failed (which was fun).
trademark
January 24th, 2013
11:26 am
For your consideration:
-No consecutive Home games in a row.
-5 Playoff teams from last season.
-A West Coast game(San Diego) following a Monday Night game (Denver).
-Following West Coast trip, a division opponent who played on Thursday a week before (three extra days rest). (Carolina)
-Played a team coming off a bye week, when we weren’t coming off of ours (Oakland)
-After our Bye week, not only had to play a team ALSO coming off of theirs, but one that was UNDEFEATED in those games (Philadelphia).
trademark
January 24th, 2013
11:28 am
-No consecutive Home games in a row.
-5 Playoff teams from last season.
-A West Coast game(San Diego) following a Monday Night game (Denver).
-Following West Coast trip, a division opponent who played on Thursday a week before (three extra days rest). (Carolina)
-Played a team coming off a bye week, when we weren’t coming off of ours (Oakland)
-After our Bye week, not only had to play a team also coming off of theirs, but one that was UNDEFEATED in those games (Philadelphia).
My point is, for those in the media complaining about the “easy” schedule of Atlanta in 2012, please look at the details. Next year could wind up exactly the same. Look, we can’t control what other teams do. We just have to make sure we win these games.
What IS harder about next year’s schedule, is that 4 of those 5 opponents were division winners, so the quality has gone up. That’s about it, so far. We’ll see what other wrinkles the NFL scheduling office throws at Atlanta this year.
trademark
January 24th, 2013
11:28 am
C’mon Blog Monster…is it me??
D3
January 24th, 2013
11:30 am
Coop — My brother, I’ve finally come around. All but lost confidence that we’ll win a Super Bowl under Smitty. Hope I’m wrong and a huge off-season would go a long way to dissuading that, but I’m afraid you are exactly right. Outscored 56-17 in the second half of both playoff games AT HOME! This is “put or shut up” year for Smitty.
D3
January 24th, 2013
11:38 am
trade — Both posts are out. It must like you for some reason
trademark
January 24th, 2013
11:39 am
Just a quick “Show Your True Colors” factoid….
A certain ESPN NFC Youth Blogger (Who shall forevermore remain nameless….or unprintable….)
Has posted 9 times since the Falcons lost to the 49ers (by one play, basically)
Guess how many were about the Saints?
7 of them…..and the other 2? Programming notes and an “around the division” post.
Homer much?
Arno
January 24th, 2013
11:41 am
I’m actually getting all trademark’s posts as he writes them.
Paddy O
January 24th, 2013
11:49 am
from my management perspective, the owners should be looking to boot goodell. his complete screw up of the Saints bounty investigation should give the average owner serious doubt about his competence. and, what the bleep is the bleeping point of moving the pro bowl to BEFORE the super bowl? that is another example of profound ineptitude. sort of like bettman with a 2nd extended work stoppage and selig moving the Astros to the AL. selah. bad leadership.
JB Falcon
January 24th, 2013
11:53 am
Arno, TM’s 7:37 post was there when I looked in around 9:30, it was followed immediately about his post saying the BM got it.
SG
January 24th, 2013
11:54 am
Arno: Beautiful Job on Masthead
Arno
January 24th, 2013
11:59 am
JB– same here. SG– thanks!
The Time is NOW
January 24th, 2013
12:05 pm
Still like an idea Waynester posted in the last thread: converting a TE to defense to cover opposing TE’s. Here are some thoughts.
Such a player need not only be on our roster already. Pick up a highly regarded draft pick from previous years who has the measureable’s (size and speed). But also one who failed to become an impact TE, due to problems with either blocking or hands. It may take a year to get such a player up to speed on defense. However, if it is a veteran who has already adjusted to the NFL preparation process, the conversion MIGHT be quicker. Furthermore, a high pick who didn’t pan out should be available on the cheap. They should be a special teams contributor while learning to play D.
D3
January 24th, 2013
12:17 pm
trade — Made a vow never to read that guyagain after he wrote one of the most hateful, vitriolic pieces I’ve ever read in my entire life. The boycott’s going pretty well so far and my stress level is good.
JB Falcon
January 24th, 2013
12:26 pm
TM, it looks like Yastinkas has a thing for S Payton. Wouldn’t surprise me if he doesn’t start posting what Sean ate for breakfast, etc. etc.
Falcon
January 24th, 2013
12:35 pm
How about Yastink@sshole?
trademark
January 24th, 2013
12:42 pm
D3-I hear ya…I still want to read NFC South stuff…maybe he should just re-title it “Under Brees’ Jockstrap” and keep it clear instead.
And thanks for getting the posts out! I’ve felt that way pretty much all year about our schedule, we were getting a bum rap from the sportswriters concerning our schedule strength. They didn’t bother to look at the circumstances of those games, which were pretty messed up (some of them). Lesser teams would have lost them. Hell, lesser Falcons teams a couple of years ago would have lost them.
As far as the offseason goes….TD and Co. need to channel their inner “Turner, Gonzalez, Samuel” and get a couple of impact free agents. Stay away from the inner “Robinsons” and “Edwards”, though. Is it luck that a free agent works so well? I only ask that because sometimes Dimitroff looks like a frikkin genius (Turner, Samuel come immediately to mind), and sometimes…you see the thought process, but it blows up (Edwards).
I guess there are no sure things. We need a good break.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
12:47 pm
Today’s 5 morning musings:
1) Pat YaSTinkas would ask Sean Payton to pull a Roethlisberger on him if he ever saw him (Payton) in a public restroom.
2) Colin Cowherd has a Tom Brady poster rolled up next to a bottle of Jergens lotion under his bed…
3) Tired of the Manti Teo story. Dude is a phony, a liar, and a dork. He’ll fall in the draft, some team will get lucky. Dude DOES know how to play football…just don’t ask him to tackle Eddie Lacy….
4) Colin Kapernick doesn’t understand something – the higher a hill you climb, the steeper the cliff is on the other side. Folks will figure out your game quite soon enough, kid. And when they do….
5) Still like an idea Waynester posted in the last thread: converting a TE to defense to cover opposing TE’s.
Things like this require an innovative mind. There are three main minds on the CS. Two are innovative. The one that isn’t innovative happens to be the one that is in charge.
That is all for now.
Arno
January 24th, 2013
12:55 pm
trademark– The people who claimed the Falcons had a easy schedule are the same ones who predicted they would win nine or ten games. Can’t have it both ways.
darrell starks
January 24th, 2013
1:23 pm
Big Brother Ray, Do you trade for Darrell Revis ?
I WOULD IN HEART BEAT.
I remember when Primetime went to 49ers won, then left for Cowboys and they won.
Plus he is only 27years old.
Falcons are right on edge of going to superbowl, now you can man up on defense and get physical up front.
Let him man up on best WR and Darrelle will shut down one half of the field.
Now you can blitz your LB more.
THIS IS MIKE NOLAN STYLE ON DEFENSE.
In Miami he would man up both CB and play more free with his front 7.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
January 24th, 2013
1:26 pm
What will it take 2 get Darrell is the big ?
Maybe a 2nd and 4th this year and a 3rd next year.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JB Falcon
January 24th, 2013
1:31 pm
Don’t read this if you have a thin skin. I thought it was funny. Really, funnier that Yastinkas.
http://www.foxsportssouth.com/01/22/13/Falcons-consistently-offer-heartache-to-/landing_falcons.html?blockID=852839&feedID=4354
darrell starks
January 24th, 2013
1:32 pm
STARTER
DARRELL, SAMUEL
BACKUP DUNTA, MCCLAIN
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
January 24th, 2013
1:54 pm
Darrell would take this defense 2 the next level.
And sign free agent Paul Kruger
Draft 1st pick Jonathan Jenkins or Jssie William
May have the best defense in the NFL.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JB Falcon
January 24th, 2013
1:54 pm
This guy seems to get it.
http://www.foxsportssouth.com/01/22/13/Falcons-No-1-task-Upgrading-the-defense/landing_falcons.html?blockID=852947&feedID=4383
D3
January 24th, 2013
2:06 pm
darrell — Sorry brother, no more blockbuster trades. We had our fill with the Julio trade, and even though it was a great trade for a great player, we’re already short-shriffed(sic?) enough. Here’s my two off-season moves……..
1) Cut Turner
2) Sign TE Jared Cook
JB Falcon
January 24th, 2013
2:10 pm
A good game review/breakdown by Pete Priscoe;
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21609973/after-further-review-ryan-falcons-had-chances-to-put-away-49ers
darrell starks
January 24th, 2013
2:14 pm
D3, He is already under contract, he make only 3mill next year.
Darrell take this defense 2 next level, shut down one half of the field.
Now you can give Samuel over top help from safety.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
January 24th, 2013
2:21 pm
D3 CHECK OUT THIS DEFENSE
KRUGER, PETERS, JENKINS OR JESSIE, ABRAHAM
CHASE THOMAS, NICHOLAS , SPOON
DARRELL, MOORE, DECOUD, SMAUEL
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!
The Time is NOW
January 24th, 2013
2:24 pm
JB Falcon – Good reads.
I enjoyed the first one up until the fatalistic analysis for the future. It was only after the Braves became nationally stigmatized as a pitiful franchise that would never measure up (they were even used as a joke in a Star Trek episode on TBS), that they began their great run. We are in the early phases of our great run,now. I hope….
D3
January 24th, 2013
2:52 pm
The more I think about it, the more I truly believe we HAVE to convert to a 3-4 base. That doesn’t mean we still can’t run the 4-3 or nickel occasionally, but think about the personnel we have here……..
NT – John Jenkins or Jesse Williams, Corey Peters
DE – Babs, Matthews, Vance, Travian, (Abe could rotate if needed)
OLB – Abe, Bier, Mass, (Free Agent)
ILB – Spoon, Nicholas, Dent
What do you guys think of former GT Jacket DE Michael Johnson? 6′7, 270 and racked up 11.5 sacks last year. Not sure if he’d fit in a 3-4, but if we plan to stay in the 4-3, than that would be a good, manageable signing in my opinion with huge upside.
D3
January 24th, 2013
3:13 pm
And I’ll say this once again, I still believe 100% that we should use our first two picks on DT (none under 320+) and best OG. However……..
If Smitty and Co. want to stop being so d@mn stubborn, than we could have a fix in-house and use the first two draft picks on best DT and best DE/OLB to help convert to 3-4.
1) Re-sign Baker, move to RT
2) Start Holmes at LT
3) Move Konz to C
4) Move Clabo inside to RG
5) Tell McClure it’s been real
6) Voila!
LRD
January 24th, 2013
3:26 pm
SW: Welcome back man… been a while. Glad to see you bringing the fire
Arno: I really like your argument on Gonzo retirement and what it could possibly say about the coaching.
D3: we will be in a 3-4 next year. Nolan will find the players we need to get in the scheme.. move babs out to a tackle, keep peters as the other leaving us to find a big ole boy to put in the center ( Grady sized eh)
LBs of Spoon, Dent, need 2 more full starters with rotations of Biermann ( Notice lack of current depth though on LB;s for this, as do you really think we keep Peterson?)
Our D just needs work. Period. I dont think Reavis is part of the fix, but free agency as a whole will need to be utilized.. there is no way we can draft enough to fix our D to make another run for next year.
(my 02)
D3
January 24th, 2013
3:31 pm
Our D just needs work. Period. — LRD
EXACTLY! I don’t care what you do in terms of scheme, just invest in the defense. I would argue both in the draft heavily and also in free agency perhaps.
Knew Money
January 24th, 2013
3:40 pm
There looks to be a lot of teams dumping salaries next year. I think the Falcons should take a serious look at who get cut to determine what FA’s to bring back. I really believe their are only 2 FA’s that should be immediately re-signed if the $$ is right are Grimes and Moore. Baker would be the only other consideration.
trademark
January 24th, 2013
3:41 pm
D3- You can mark it down right now, your instincts are dead on. Somewhere in this offseason we’re getting a Hoss for a NT, and Nolan is going 3-4. I think he was no big fan of the “hybrid” thing he was running this year. It functioned really well at times, but failed a lot as well.
Knew Money
January 24th, 2013
3:41 pm
There looks to be a lot of teams dumping salaries next year. I think the Falcons should take a serious look at who get cut to determine what FA’s to bring back. I really believe their are only 2 FA’s that should be immediately re-signed if the $$ is right are Grimes and Moore. Baker and McClain would be the only other considerations.
Knew Money
January 24th, 2013
3:41 pm
There looks to be a lot of teams dumping salaries next year. I think the Falcons should take a serious look at who get cut to determine what FA’s to bring back. I really believe their are only 2 FA’s that should be immediately re-signed if the $$ is right are Grimes and Moore. Baker and McClain should be the only other considerations.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
3:54 pm
Darrell ,
I’d love to have Revis. I would NOT love to give up any high picks to get him. So I’m guessing we don’t get him.
Of course, the Jets will want high picks for him…but perhaps all that need be done is to wait…as Dimitroff did with the Eagles and Asante Samuel…
I understand some folks won’t want to give a single pick away. My “devil’s advocate” counter argument to this is….depends on what pick you’re giving up. If it’s a 4th rounder, who in the 4th round can you get that will have the kind of impact that Revis will have?
But I’m not going to get too deep into this conversation. The arguments about picks can be…vehement…and I’m not in the mood today.
LRD
January 24th, 2013
3:58 pm
Baker.. I along with others have screamed about him for the last few years, up to this year. He actually had a good year. Previous season you were always hearing his name for holding calls, for letting Ryan get slammed etc.. this year, not so much.. so we will re-sign him
Moore: Resign
Grimes: If we can get him cheap
McClain is a keeper for sure.
I would even say we keep Owens, and let him compete for keeping a spot in camp
Do we keep Garrett Reynolds?
McClure ( thank you VERY much for your service.. but bye bye)
Peterson (see McClure)
Franks … gone (he has been a disappointment is aspects
Geez.. sitting here looking at our FA’s… and we very well could have a “new” team next year in multiple ways.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
4:00 pm
From John Mannasso’s article, posted by JB Falcon :
“I think we need more playmakers across the board,” he said. “I think that’s the goal each and every year: to add players. The way that the system is in place, you can’t do it all the way across the board. . . . We’re always trying to add and put the best possible combination together, and I think that Thomas and his staff have done an outstanding job in providing us with players.”
Ok….so if that’s the case, then why has the development process not been successful? Jerry I get…dude is a bust. But what about the rest of them?
One would suspect the club’s decision to replace director of athletic performance Jeff Fish (as reported by FOXSports.com’s Alex Marvez), might be related to the defense’s struggles, specifically with the pass rush. The Falcons ranked 28th in the NFL in sacks with 29, with 10 coming from end John Abraham, who turns 35 in May.
Don’t know if I buy that.
In his season-ending news conference, Smith would not rule out a change to 3-4, saying, “We have to now do some personnel work, but we also get to do some evaluating of schemes of what other people are doing. We get to look at what other teams are doing.”
Why don’t you just listen to your DC?
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
4:02 pm
LRD ,
My guess is Garrett Reynolds stays because he is “familar with and fits the system.”
I’d just as soon he be a backup. Not starter material.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
4:08 pm
D3 ,
One DT I’ve been looking at that is under the 320 lb mark is Purdue’s Kawann Short. He’s listed around 310, which means he could probably add 10 lbs and be fine. The reason I say this is if Smitty is stubborn and doesn’t want to go to a 3-4, then Short works out just fine as a 4-3 DT. He’s got the size/speed/strength and would be a bit bigger already than most of our DTs (I think none of them are above 305 lbs).
That said, I’d prefer a John Jenkins, Jesse Williams…somebody like that. Get another big DT via FA maybe.
I don’t think Peters is big enough to be a NT. He’s listed at about the same weight as big Travian Robertson.
D3
January 24th, 2013
4:10 pm
We appear to be in luck if we’re looking for a Big Boy DT…..
using CBS Sports rankings…..
1st Rd
Jesse Williams – 6′3, 320
John Jenkins – 6′4, 359
Jonathan Hankins – 6′3, 320
3rd-4th Rd
Brandon Williams – 6′2, 341
5th Rd
Kwame Geathers – 6′5, 355
Obviously, I haven’t really glanced very much into the drafting and players as I’m trying to slow play these next 3 months, but right now, it’s going to take a tsunami to take me off the DT in first round mountain. Jesse Williams, John Jenkins, or Jonathan Hankins should be the pick.
Barring of course unless they go out and get one in Free Agency, but there’s not a lot out there in terms of NT’s that I’ve seen.
D3
January 24th, 2013
4:29 pm
This might sound cold, but TD has to start thinking about this team with an eye to a possible post-Smitty dawn. That might sound a bit harsh, but at one point does Smitty stop getting so much influence? Sure, we want to give him some things he wants, but as Big Ray said for instance, if Smitty is stubborn and doesn’t want to change certain things, than he has to do what’s best for the Falcons long-term.
Saw this on another Falcons blog, and this would go WAY against the black-dot system, but what about taking a look at ILB Rolando McClain? Isn’t our locker room strong enough at this point to absorb someone like this. The guy can play and this would be a perfect place to turn it around, close to home nonetheless. If it doesn’t work out, just give him the Ray Edwards treatment.
Coop
January 24th, 2013
4:34 pm
D3 – Let’s give Smitty the Ray Edwards treatment.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
4:36 pm
D3 ,
I’m right there with you on the DT bandwagon.
If I hear one more thing about taking a TE in the first round, I’ll scream.
Ok, so I’m already hoarse…..
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
4:42 pm
Barring of course unless they go out and get one in Free Agency, but there’s not a lot out there in terms of NT’s that I’ve seen.
Finding a backup or rotational guy shouldn’t be too awful hard. However, it might be easier finding guys to fill the DE position in a 3-4. Babineaux is one, Peters could be another. Not sure what the future holds for Travian Robertson, but it would be a shame to waste that kind of size/strength.
Saw this on another Falcons blog, and this would go WAY against the black-dot system, but what about taking a look at ILB Rolando McClain? Isn’t our locker room strong enough at this point to absorb someone like this.
Posted this very same sentiment (except the part about McClain, wasn’t thinking of anyone in particular) re – the black dot board. Shake that damn board and let some dots fall off of it.
If we don’t have the right kind of leadership in the locker room by now, then somebody has failed miserably at their collective jobs.
It’s all well and good to sit back and admire the choir you put together. But you still need singing talent and a good choir director that understands the music.
Personally, I want some more attitude around these parts. Focused attitude, but attitude all the same.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
5:03 pm
I’m thinking Jesse Williams or John Hankins.
I have absolutely nothing against John Jenkins, but he’s third on that short list. But a few thoughts:
1) Hankins is versatile and played nearly all of the techniques a DT can play.
2) Tough to keep those 340-360 lb DTs in shape and consistently healthy. And when they go out, your play suffers because teams don’t have to scheme and account for them.
3) Corey Peters was a notable exception, but I don’t think we need to wait or overextend ourselves at the DT position. Get one in the 1st round, bar none.
DTs are going to go quick, there are more teams running the 3-4 these days, and we don’t want to get caught trying to trade up for a guy who may not be ready to play effectively right away.
Get one of the top 3-4 DTs IN THE FIRST ROUND. Surely one will fall to pick #30…..
Paddy O
January 24th, 2013
6:56 pm
commentary: I liked the old “bird cage” – it connected to the team we root for – Falcons – and gave a shout out to how old newspapers frequently ended their life – at the bottom of bird cages. The Cage solely give the impression we are imprisoned – but, it also give that “cage match” debate atmosphere. however, on the arno logo – any chance we could get the name bars to move horizontally across the back logo? one line moving right, the next one down moving left, etc, etc? are we that technologically gifted? (i’m not!)
LRD
January 24th, 2013
7:06 pm
Big Ray: With ya on the first pick needs to be a TE… I think we can live with what we have as far as replacements for now. Heck with Gonzo gone, does that mean we finally see more of HD?
Big huge mean DT… and let this one NOT have knee injuries in college.. or injury prone, or….
Wings
January 24th, 2013
7:07 pm
Per ESPN, New Orleans has fired Steve Spagnuolo and S. Payton announced the team is going to the 3-4 defense. Maybe our Falcons will quickly make a decision.
Mike
January 24th, 2013
7:07 pm
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Arno
January 24th, 2013
7:34 pm
Paddy O– I came up with that design and emailed it to D3 just to thank him for all his work. He decided to post it with this week’s article. I think it ends there. Anyway, I’m glad many of you liked it. Tried to get in all the names of the regulars– apologies if I missed some.
falcon21
January 24th, 2013
7:59 pm
Arno, I hope it is a regular part of The Cage. Again, great job with it!
JB Falcon
January 24th, 2013
8:08 pm
Paddy, some folks would complain if you gave them a million dollar bill because it was wrinkled. Come on man! I hope the logo remains permanent! Thanks Arno for your effort.
Uh, could you make my handle kinda’ flash on and off!
Mike
January 24th, 2013
8:09 pm
Great read D-3. I am glad that someone out there finally offered TD some of the credit for Falcons short-comings. We can give him credit for Ryan, Jones, Gonzalez, Turner, and Samuel….but lets looks at it realistically, if you take a QB 3rd overall he should turn out to be a franchise QB, if you give up what they did to get Julio, and take him 6th overall you should get a stud receiver…it was no secret that Gonzalez was productive, he had a HOF NFL resume’ before he came to Atlanta. There was enough film on Turner to suggest he would be a productive running back. Samuel the same thing, already a proven track record. Then Spoon and Moore have been nice players and maybe on the road to being NFL stars, but they were taken in the 1st and second rounds where you should be hitting way more than you are missing. Baker has been up and down, but IMO has never produced what you would expect from a 1st rounder…same can be said for Jerry. The jury is still out on Konz, and maybe he will be better at C, but there were times at guard he was horrendous, was constantly pushed back into the QB w/ bull rushes, and when DE’s and DT’s stunted he often looked confused and ending up blocking no one at all (Carolina game is an excellent reference). Other than DeCoud, I fail to see the value picks. DeCoud for the most parts has been productive, and he was taken at the end of the third round (and to be fair he drafted Lofton in the 2nd round who was a solid piece, but is now gone). But where is our late round value…where is our Alphonso Morris in the 6th round…TD has picked some situational guys in the late rounds who have shown great flashes, but lack consistentcy.
Next thing is coaching. It has always been my perception that the soldiers on the battlefield adopt the cullture of their General. In this case players are a reflection of the character of their coach. We have seen time after time as long as the emotion is elevated that our defense swarms, and seems to play at an icredible level. But time after time as the game settles and things don’t go as planned that the defense especially (however it does seem to eventually spill over into the offense) seems to lose focus and intensity. Lets relate it to life for a moment when things are going well, your excited, every aspect of your life is affected and you live at a high level….but how do you respond when you dont have that energy, wife gets laid off, car breaks down….do you “fake until you make it” and dig deep, or do you slow down your approach…on the football field I think this is when you see out defense seem to playing 2 gears lower, perfect example S Nichlaus after the personal foul call where they would have been getting off the field.re a reflection of the character of their coach. We have seen time after time as long as the emotion is elevated that our defense swarms, and seems to play at an icredible level. But time after time as the game settles and things don’t go as planned that the defense especially (however it does seem to eventually spill over into the offense) seems to lose focus and intensity. Lets relate it to life for a moment when things are going well, your excited, every aspect of your life is affected and you live at a high level….but how do you respond when you dont have that energy, wife gets laid off, car breaks down….do you “fake until you make it” and dig deep, or do you slow down your approach…on the football field I think this is when you see out defense seem to playing 2 gears lower, perfect example S Nichlaus after the personal foul call where they would have been getting off the field. That also leads us to wonder as D-3 pointed out…has TD failed to bring in the right personel, or has our staff failed to develop them.
I wonder baout the future. I know the NFC is deep in talented teams. I would contend that had NY Giants, Dallas, Chicago, New Orleans, and possibly Tampa or Carolina played in the AFC they would have made the playoffs. St Louis and Detroit I believe are right on the edge of being dangerous. I believe this year we see more changes than we have in a while. I have already convinced myself Gonzales is retiring, so I came up with an offseason wish list with that in mind. Judging by the talent in FA this year and the draft I felt like this is what I would like to see.
#1) resign critical FA’s William Moore#1, Robert McClain#2, C Owens #3, V Walker #4, and Chris Hope #5. (maybe Baker becomes huge on this list depending on what other tackles may do before Mar 12).
#2) I am sure McClure is done. Konz moves over to center where I think he will be better. So here is an opportunity to upgrade the interior line. Here I like Andy Levitre G from Buffalo.To finish the line I would love to see us take Bushrod, making our line stronger and weaking a rival. I would love Clady, but do not see Denver letting him get away.If it appears neither of those will ahppen maybe resigning Baker would not be a bad idea.
#3)This maybe the easiest J Cook TE. This guy is athletic and brings much of the same skill set as Gonzalez. He will not resign in Tenn, and I think he would love to play in Atlanta’s offense.
#4)This may be the toughest of all, but Henry Melton from Chicago along with Babineaux at DT would be an immediate upgrade to our D-line. He would require some double teams allowing our DE’s one on one.
#5) depth to LB and CB.
then to the draft…no dubt first priority pass rusher. Late in the 1st round we should see Ezekiel Ansah (skill set comparable to JPP) or Alex Okafor. 2nd round I like Monte Ball. If he is off the board, here I see a few really solid OLB (John Simon OSU, Chase Thomas Stanford, or Brandon Jenkins FSU)…then you should have Stephan Taylor RB on the board at the end off rd 3.
bonuses..Donnie Avery or D Hixon WR through FA,,,I do not want to accept as a fan that the height of this run we almost made the SB….
JB Falcon
January 24th, 2013
8:22 pm
TL, DR
SeminoleWarrior
January 24th, 2013
8:48 pm
A quiet night. Not going to add much more to what I have already stated. Will just monitor and begin my offseason functions as the Cocoa Mel.
BR, you feel that TE is a major need for us. Will not argue with you on that one brother but I would love to see what a healthy Chase Coffman can do if given a full chance. Dude was very effective while at MIZZOU; I even had him on my big board. He was previously a Falcon, then did a stint in Cleveland. Injuries held him back but would love to see how a full offseason could benefit him as well as extensive time with both the WR and TE coaches.
Hey Mike…I see you are already taking the Cocoa’s advice and looking at Stanford. Good man!!!
SeminoleWarrior
January 24th, 2013
8:52 pm
Mike, Henry Melton is a very nice DT. Will be interesting to see what the Bears will do with their defense. Melton is a little undersized for what I would love to see in a NT for the Falcons. at 295 pounds, he is already in the mold of what we have in Babs, Walker, and Peters. Fine undertackles but lacking in the ability to stuff the interior. We need at least, IMO, 310 to 315 pounds to hold down that new mission.
SeminoleWarrior
January 24th, 2013
8:58 pm
Agree with the move of Konz over to the center position. f a guy like UNC’s Jonathan Cooper is there in the second round, he could be the man we need at guard.
SeminoleWarrior
January 24th, 2013
9:04 pm
And then there is the Barrett Jones choice if you want it.
Coop, would you pull the trigger on BJ? Would you play him at OG or C? How about a shot at LT?
He did that pretty well in 2011?
(Yes, an ACC guy paid attention to the SEC and its talent…LOL). Shhh…don’t tell them that at ACC headquarters.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
9:35 pm
WHAT????? NO. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!
I didn’t say we needed a TE!!!!!
THIS is what I said –
I’m right there with you on the DT bandwagon.
If I hear one more thing about taking a TE in the first round, I’ll scream.
Ok, so I’m already hoarse…..
I don’t want no damn TEs, particularly in the first round!!!!
Later, maybe. But as stated by others, give Coffman and Palmer a chance.
I just don’t trust using a TE in our system not named TG…not sure Smitty knows how to oversee the development and use of one. But hope to be wrong.
I don’t want to draft one!
DT. DT. DT. DT!!!!
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
9:37 pm
Gimme Barret Jones in a heartbeat. Dude has ass-kicker written all over him.
But doubt he’d last until late 2nd round….if he did…snag him QUICK.
First round = DT.
And somehow I know SW is gonna say no and tell me we need to get a RB or something, LOL>
Coop
January 24th, 2013
9:37 pm
SW – Brother, you always bring a smile to my face! As for Barrett Jones, it depends on who else is on the board. Assuming, as I do, that all properly valued DT and DE are gone, I would definitely take Jones. I think our focus at 30, should be best interior DL then interior OL then DE. As for where to play him, I think I’d go with OC. I know I pushed for Konz at OC, and if they made that move and played Jones at RG, I’d be OK (the reason to do that is one year of experience and the importance of OC). However, Jones was very impressive at Alabama and in the SEC title game. A smart, tough leader. Screams OC to me. Plus, he did it in the SEC.
As much as I pan our OL, I have hope that Konz can play OC and Hawley RG. I like D3 idea of Baker at RT and Holmes at LT. Though, baker faired better this year. Definitely need to upgrade right side in pass protection and entire line in run blocking.
With all that said, our DL was down right pathetic. I have ZERO confidence this will happen, but I am still convinced that nearly ALL our defensive woes could be cured by a Grady-sized DT. John Jenkins? Kawann Short? Not sure. But if I found a bad @ss DT, I’d take him over Jones. The O is good enough, the D is horrible.
Finally… As depressed as I am to say it… I have lost all confidence in this staff. They either can’t draft or can’t develop or both. So, there is a part of me that is starting to give up hope… And it greatly depresses me.
Coop
January 24th, 2013
9:42 pm
Arno – Great logo. Thanks. I saved it immediately and made it my desktop. I too would like my handle to flash and be much larger than Matty Bicep’s… LOL.
D3 – Brother, it can never be said enough.. Simply fantastic work. Your commitment to this team and it’s fans… Us, is remarkable. Thrilled we finally had that beer and I look forward to another round this summer. Thanks for making even the worst loss somehow bearable.
Matty Bicep
January 24th, 2013
9:44 pm
Barrett Jones, coming off surgery…..Perfect TD prospect.
Coop
January 24th, 2013
9:45 pm
Would you prefer a QB?
Matty Bicep
January 24th, 2013
9:46 pm
Although, the foot injury might be just the think that gets him to #30….
Matty Bicep
January 24th, 2013
9:47 pm
Naa, we need beef on one side of the ball or the other. Just thought it funny that he is getting surgery….TD’s mo for sure.
Matty Bicep
January 24th, 2013
9:48 pm
I do like Jones attitude….I have to admit.
JB Falcon
January 24th, 2013
9:49 pm
Coop, I have called 911 for you!
Coop
January 24th, 2013
9:50 pm
We need a large DT, DE, LB horribly bad. We need help at RT/RG, and could grab a RB, TE, and CB.
I would head into draft and FA with those positions in mind. Other than the first 3, I’d look at value and upgrades over current roster to make my picks. The RB needs to be better than Turner, the CB better than Owens, the TE better than Palmer (I hope Coffman is a sleeper). LB needs to be better than Nicholas who is way better than Dent. DE needs to be better than Abe… Yep, and the DT needs to be better than anything we’ve had in.. Well hell… Forever?
Mike
January 24th, 2013
9:51 pm
SW many mocks have us taking K Short a 310 lb DT. I am not familiar with him ( have not seen a lot of Big 10 football outside of Ohio St, Michigan, Nebraska, and Wisconsin. I would think if that were to happen we would move more to a 3-4…maybe looking to add Spencer OLB through FA. I also think Bierman would be more productive as a 3-4 OLB then a DE. Also I had mentioned Chase Thomas as OLB, he would fit perfect into a 3-4. Not sure if Massoquoi or Matthews would have the size to play DE in a 3-4. I do believe Babineaux is athletic enough to play DE in a 3-4. If they are staying in a conventional 4-3 then I see them making a run at Melton.
I like the idea of BJ, but I have a hard time seeing him slip that far…I think he goes early 20s.
I am not a PAC 10 fan by any means, however I saw enough from Stanford to know they have some physical players. Even those hell bent on taking a TE 1st I like Ertz ( but I really do not want to go that route when you have Reed from Fla and Kelce from Cincy that will be there in 3 and 4).
Coop
January 24th, 2013
9:51 pm
JB – Thanks. Tell them I have gone to kidnap our HC and teach him how to manage a dadgum game?
darrell starks
January 24th, 2013
9:51 pm
If Falcons get MR. SHUTDOWN Revis i guarantee TG come back.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
January 24th, 2013
9:53 pm
http://youtu.be/t-z1XqGJ-_4
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
9:55 pm
Coop ,
We’re on the same wavelength as stated above. DT first….and if we get Jones by some miracle, I’d play him at Center.
Coop
January 24th, 2013
9:56 pm
Mike – Good take. After watching Konz, I think I’d rather stick with the SEC when drafting interior linemen. I’m trying to learn about Short, but the lines in the SEC are so big and fast, I think it deserves pause. Who’s the last dominant lineman outside the SEC? Long? Iuapati? Thomas? Suh?
Coop
January 24th, 2013
9:58 pm
BR – Inside out. $50 we draft a skill player.
darrell starks
January 24th, 2013
10:01 pm
Mike , If Nolan wan’t change into a 3 -4 Defense Falcons must get a DT at 320lbs or better.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
10:05 pm
WHAT????? NO. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!
I didn’t say we needed a TE!!!!!
THIS is what I said –
I’m right there with you on the DT bandwagon.
If I hear one more thing about taking a TE in the first round, I’ll scream.
Ok, so I’m already hoarse…..
I don’t want no damn TEs, particularly in the first round!!!!
Later, maybe. But as stated by others, give Coffman and Palmer a chance.
Of course, I don’t trust using a TE in our system not named TG…not sure about the development of one under a certain person…
I don’t want to draft one!
DT. DT. DT. DT!!!!
Mike
January 24th, 2013
10:07 pm
SW I have seen one mock that has Jenkins falling to us. I do know enough about him that he eats up space. He will make an adequate LB core good and a good lb core great. I have no knocks on Short, just have not seen him play. Coop I too lack confidence in this staff. People can say what they want, as much of an a$$ that I think Jim Harbaugh is put him on our sideline with a 17-0 lead early in the 2 BS qtr, and Smitty on the opposite side we would be talking about how we match up with Baltimore and not about free agents or draft picks. Just my opinion for what it’s worth.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
10:10 pm
Coop,
I hope you’re $50 short when the first round is over, is all I can say.
If we absolutely MUST draft a skill player in the first round….it better be a RB not a TE. And it better be one hell of a RB. The kind that makes our offense score in second halves, sustains drives, doesn’t make Ryan throw for 400 yards and late comebacks, and can help us get that extra TD when the defense can’t stop the other team.
Otherwise I’ll be piiiiiisssssed.
Matty Bicep
January 24th, 2013
10:10 pm
You can’t replace TG with another TE. If he leaves, your going to have to get production elsewhere. HD, maybe an RB…..No reason to panic. And if the thinking is a DT will make our linebackers better, i guess, but we really have to upgrade…..We might have had the worse set of LBs in the NFL.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
10:11 pm
People can say what they want, as much of an a$$ that I think Jim Harbaugh is put him on our sideline with a 17-0 lead early in the 2 BS qtr, and Smitty on the opposite side we would be talking about how we match up with Baltimore and not about free agents or draft picks. Just my opinion for what it’s worth.
There you have it.
Same can be said of Sean Payton, even if I don’t like him. Of course, I probably only don’t like him because he coaches a team I hate…
Mike
January 24th, 2013
10:13 pm
*did not mean BS Qtr… Meant 2nd. Apparently I typed something wrong and auto correct changed it.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
10:20 pm
We did NOT have the worst set of LBs in the League. We had the most under-used.
Weatherspoon was on the field all the time. Dent didn’t even get on the field in the early part of the season. Once he did, he began to perform.
Hell, we used one LB in formations more than we think, bringing a safety up and lining him up as another LB for coverage purposes.
Damn right that better DL means better LBs. Ask Clay Matthews how hard it is to be good at what he does when B.J. Raji and crew aren’t doing so well. Take a close look at the 2011 stats of the Packers D-Line and see the correlation with Clay’s stats that year…not a coincidence.
Not to say we can’t pick up a LB or two. Good to add one via the draft at least.
But you build from the inside out. Get the DT in the higher rounds, then go for the LB next. Hell, I’d not complain if we drafted a DT in the first and a RB in the second or third.
Mike
January 24th, 2013
10:21 pm
BR-there is one RB in the early rounds that fits what you are advocating. Though I would fill that need later, if Lacy is still on the board at #30 I would not complain about him. I do like M Ball in the second ( I think he could be a MJD or Ray Rice).
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
10:24 pm
Night y’all. 0430 comes early.
Big Ray
January 24th, 2013
10:26 pm
Mike ,
I’m not advocating it, to be honest.
I’m just saying that if the FO and CS is absolutely gonna get stuck on a skill position in the 1st round, it damn well better be RB and not TE. RB is the ONLY skill position we should go after if we must.
My preference is a big ass-kicking DT. And if we go RB in the 1st, we damn sure better go DT in the 2nd.
Personally, I figure we’re better off doing THAT in reverse.
Matty Bicep
January 24th, 2013
10:27 pm
Well, I’ll say this, when I looked at Dent, Nicholaus, and Spoon, I did not exactly see world championship caliber LBs. I mean, spoon was top shelf, but Dent is a novice, and Nicholaus were woefully inconsistent…..
Matty Bicep
January 24th, 2013
10:29 pm
But I think we are all in agreement regarding drafting a TE…..It just seems like a panic move…
Coop
January 24th, 2013
10:33 pm
I know I’ll get painted as a hater, but Spoon was not top shelf. He makes tackles but very few impact plays. I’d say for every impact play you could find him blowing a coverage, assignment, or tackle. We don’t have a Lewis, Suggs, Matthews, or Willis.
Matty Bicep
January 24th, 2013
10:44 pm
Well, when I say top shelf, I mean that he could probably be a starter on most teams…maybe. Again, he was the best we had…Our LBs were a large reason why no lead was safe….
falcon21
January 24th, 2013
10:45 pm
Got to agree with you Coop, I’ve been waiting for the superstar many thought he would be to arise but it just hasn’t happened. Later y’all.
OldTimer
January 25th, 2013
12:48 am
The Smithster has to go. It’s part of the process.
Mike
January 25th, 2013
6:56 am
Coop I think Spoon is better than average, one of the things I mentioned earlier was o- lineman getting past the d-line and into the 2nd level of our defense. That is going to hurt the productivity of your LB’s when that happens. However I am with you on the top shelf. I do not see Spoon as being a game changer. Maybe he grows into that role, but right now I just see him as a pretty good player.
marko
January 25th, 2013
7:03 am
Now that we’re officially back on wait till next year mode, I thought that I’d throw out a name. Richard Seymour’s days seem to be coming to an end in Oakland. Would he be willing to take a home town discount, and play for the Falcons? Though his best years and biggest paychecks are behind him, he’s still a major load when healthy. The Dimitroff, Asante reunion wasn’t that bad. I’m inclined to believe that Seymour would pay even bigger dividends. It would definitely provide us with a pretty good clue as to which way we’re headed on the defensive side of the ball. at any rate, the Tony G. experience ( hopefully not over) has left me with a soft spot for future hall of famers.
Big Ray
January 25th, 2013
7:16 am
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Mock-Draft-Senior-Bowl-EJ-Manuel-Ryan-Nassib-Tyler-Wilson-first-round-quarterbacks-012113
I’ve figured it out. Peter Schrager hates the Falcons. Has every credible DT going before us then has us picking a CB.
Big Ray
January 25th, 2013
7:28 am
Say what you want about Weatherspoon, no LB is a game-changer without having something to work with on the DL. If the DL is weak, the LBs are always going to struggle. Spoon has the speed, the awareness, all of it. The tools are there. The setting is not .
Switch to a 3-4 or shore up the DL on a solid 4-3 and watch things change. We were a walking bandaid on a hemhorrage on defense all season. Starts with the DL…as always.
If you can’t understand that one, I don’t know what to tell ya.
Dent didn’t play last season, didn’t play at first this season…he has some growing to do but I think he’s got good potential.
We’ve seen the best of Nicholas, and it’s all downhill from here. He still has a little speed though.
Our funky hybrid defense didn’t use LBs consistently.
When your DL gets mauled fairly consistently, then your LBs are going to get exposed pretty quickly by OL players getting into the 2nd level all the time. Especially when most of the time you’re only using 2 LBs and sometimes you only use one.
Big Ray
January 25th, 2013
7:40 am
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/0ap2000000130334/Sound-FX-49ers-complete-comeback
Take a look and listen.
Watch the TD runs by Gore.
Our DL guys can’t win one-on-one, and the opposing OL is swallowing up the LBs in the 2nd level, with help from FB as well.
Corey Peters can’t play NT in a 3-4 when he can’t win a one-on-one in a 4-3 hybrid. Believe it.
Go big DT in the first round and let’s go with a 3-4.
You can call Spoon “above average” but the bigger issue is our DL players are “average at best.”
‘Nuff said.
Wings
January 25th, 2013
7:49 am
Nuff said.
DT then RB.
elephanthead
January 25th, 2013
8:53 am
With as many needs as we have, I don’t really care which position they draft for and in what order. To me, the key thing is that the people they bring in can contribute right away. If you can’t identify draft picks that can beat out some of these regulars and make an impact next year, then your whole scouting organization needs to be flushed out. You can’t let these guys disappear into Witness Protection like so many others.
SG
January 25th, 2013
9:37 am
Pretty cool backgrounder. What did Andrew Luck have to do w/ Jim Harbaugh’s interest and pursuit of Kaepernick? http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/01/23/harbaugh-road-tested-kaepernick-in-2011/
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
10:10 am
Greetings Cagers!
First let me say kudos to Arno on the logo. Great job my Brother, it really looks great.
I know I’m late but I had to register my support for the logo.
Man I must be honest. It took me a while to get over the loss and I’m still not there yet. I felt this like no other loss. We were so close but if we are true objective Falcon fans, we did not deserve to get to the big dance IMO. You cannot score 24 points at the half and zero in the 2nd half, on your home ground and expect to get to the big dance.
IMO our defensive “soft underbelly” was exposed. It showed up in the Seattle game which we rallied to win but the bucket went to the well too many times and the bottom fell out against 49ers. That soft zone between the LB and the safeties is where we were gutted…….again and not to speak of the 2 ridiculous personal fouls at crucial points during the game.
I also think MR2 has to take some blame here. When we were driving in the 3rd quarter and to mishandle a perfect snap cannot be excused, plain and simple. However, it is what it is and we will be back.
I am convinced this thing is indeed a “process”. Not to plageurize Smitty but it is indeed. The same thing can be applied to the 49ers. They lost to the Saints last year and made it to the Dance this year. Perhaps next year we will too, even with the seemingly difficult schedule.
When the schedule is used as the reason why we will have a tough time next year, I say why? What we are forgetting is that we are a good team now missing a few more pieces and we will be tough to handle regardless of who we play.
I must also say I was proud of the way our much maligned OL played in the playoffs. They did over achieve IMO. I know that will be an area of interest this offseason.
As far as the draft goes, LB’s, DE (free agency – and darelle starks I too like Paul Kruger) and OLinemen.
Go Falcons!!
P.S. Tony will be back for one more ride.
Paddy O
January 25th, 2013
10:25 am
JB- not really complaining – just like the BIRD CAGE moniker – the moving names was just an idea. as TRUTH said, I’d love to buy a t-shirt with that logo on it!!
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
10:41 am
Thanks SG, great read.
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
10:55 am
Paddy O, great idea. I’d be early in that line.
D3
January 25th, 2013
11:00 am
Pretty neat idea since Monday morn’ after Super Bowl is least productive day of entire year………
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/reschedule-presidents-day-monday-immediately-following-super-bowl/sqChJjVk?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl
Got this from Kevin Murphy
trademark
January 25th, 2013
11:04 am
@Big Ray
“http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Mock-Draft-Senior-Bowl-EJ-Manuel-Ryan-Nassib-Tyler-Wilson-first-round-quarterbacks-012113
I’ve figured it out. Peter Schrager hates the Falcons. Has every credible DT going before us then has us picking a CB.”
Great find of yet another media “expert” that doesn’t know a damned thing about Atlanta.
Big Ray
January 25th, 2013
11:19 am
Elephanthead ,
VERY well said, sir.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 25th, 2013
11:26 am
Don’t follow the Braves as much as I use to, but I like their approach to the off-season. They are not blowing their investment property off the foundation, but rather doing some serious remodeling. Even before the Braves throw the 1st regular season pitch, other teams are taking notice…IMO, looking at them with respect, and I dare say, with a little fear of playing them. IMO, I don’t believe a team in the NFL feared, or respect our team. Every team that played us thought they could beat us, whether it was the lowly Cardinals, or Raiders.
I am sorry to say, but IMO, we have to consisder cutting loose some of the older players on this roster, Abe, Peterson, McClure, A. Samuels, Turner…and yes Tony G.
In my opinion, you have to make hard decisions to get better, I believe we have a team (players) that are depended on making some of the aforemetion players their crutch, rather than playing hard as a unit.
I think the Braves instantly became a contender…and if the team chemistry clicks, look out! Thats what I want from our GM TD, and the front office, add some youth, play-makers, go after some legitiment FA to make our team better, we’ll gain respect when we start kicking azz, then everybody will see we aint the same ole Falcons. IMHO
LRD
January 25th, 2013
11:36 am
Big Ray.. I am not an expert on the draft, but us taking a CB.. that dude is smoking something
And as much as I want big huge DT as my first round… would we pass up on Lacey if he is still there?
Again, I DL, DL DL … but a RB to finalize the release of Turner wouldnt be a bad thing.
Does anyone think we can actually get anything for Turner ?
Also, do we let McCown go as a FA and insert Davis now as our #2 QB in 2013?
Wings
January 25th, 2013
11:50 am
Also, do we let McCown go as a FA and insert Davis now as our #2 QB in 2013?
A big yes to that LRD.
Big Ray
January 25th, 2013
12:16 pm
Agreed….get Davis in at the #2 spot. No reason not to.
I don’t know that Lacy or any of the RBs go in the first round, to be honest. One might, but I’m thinking there’s a good run on them in the 2nd round.
I’d still go DT in the first. My second choice in the first round? An OL position….preferably on the interior. Mr. Barrett Jones at OC for instance.
Third choice is a RB or LB.
More opinion on this later….
Big Ray
January 25th, 2013
12:44 pm
Ok here goes a couple of arguments.
Well, the argument on the defensive side is already pretty much set.
DEFENSE :
If you believe the largest difference between the Falcons making a SB appearance and not is about defense, then you draft a DT (maybe two) in addition to a LB and/or DE. The DT just about has to come first, however, unless maybe you’re staring at an absolute top tier DE…or more likely, a top tier LB. You can insert whatever draft day names you think are most qualified for this description, but I think all the top tier LBs are gone by pick #30, and the DE class is thin in my opinion.
Regardless, you build along the Line and then add the playmaker LB if it fits right, because we have to do something in that area as it is, especially if we’re going to a 3-4, which I fervently hope is the case.
OFFENSE :
If you believe the offense is the biggest difference between a successful SB appearance and not….then you gotta go like this:
1) This is a little scary. It’s usually not the best idea to go RB in the first round. There was a time where it happened more often. Not now. Adding a rook RB in the first round means you have to believe that all of your core/interior pieces are fine. Such is not the case with us.
So you go interior offensive line instead. OC or RG, whichever is better talent-wise, and whichever is a better fit. The guy you draft needs to be a starter just about immediately. Not sitting behind some lame-ass incumbent. STARTER MATERIAL. The other prerequisite is that whoever it is needs to be interchangeable with Peter Konze. In other words, either that person keeps Konz at starting RG, or that person moves him over to OC. Nothing less will do.
2) Don’t even breath the words “Tight End.” Replacing Gonzalez, should he retire, is impossible. Therefore, do not try it. . Gonzalez’s talent at the TE position helped get us as far as we’ve gone, but it cannot get us over the hump.
If drafting a TE, do so in the later rounds and spend the pick on a fast and athletic guy who can catch the ball but needs to be coached up on blocking. Then actually follow up on that…develop him hard, fast, and continuously. Do not put him in a corner with a tackling dummy and a blocking sled for 2-3 years so that he forgets how to catch the damn ball.
3) After drafting either an OC or RG, then draft a RB. If you need a name like Lacy, Ball, Bernard, or one of the other prominent and proven types, you may be out of luck at the bottom of the 2nd round. However, you might be able to take a gander at Stepfan Taylor, Joseph Randle, or Le’Veon Bell…somebody of that type.
This also doesn’t have to happen in the 2nd round, necessarily. That said, a guy like Taylor, if he’s there at the bottom of the 2nd….might not be a guy you want to pass on. A RB can be picked up at the bottom of the 3rd, or it may be prudent to trade up in the same round to get one if there’s a good one on the board at that time (example – JaQuizz Rodgers).
4) It doesn’t hurt to pick up another OT at some point. Again, if a good one is still on the board as the middle rounds approach…snag him. Or wait for a stronger draft class and go back to drafting defense.
These are just my ideas on doing some re-tooling. I personally think that we can draft both sides of the ball in the first 3 rounds, but it may not work out that way. We might need to commit to one side of the ball for a while (first 2-3 rounds) then move to the other side after that.
The purpose behind the defensive argument? It’s solidifying and improving the line significantly thereby improving the potential dynamics of the 2nd level of the defense (LB corps) and even the back end (secondary) will enjoy a residual effect. Of course, improving the 2nd level of the defense can also happen via draft, and should.
The purpose behind the offensive argument? A good running game involves a good RB, but we avoid premature issues (injuries, wear and tear) by solidifying the interior offensive line, which can and does make an average running game “decent” or “solid.” What does it do for an above average running game? It makes it a “good” running game. Not only that, but better interior play on the OL gives any half-decent QB more time in the pocket to do the damage that kills opposing defenses.
Since we have a QB that is obviously better than “half-decent”, imagine what happens when the interior OL gets more solidary in pass protection and more push in the running game….along with a quicker RB who can bounce to the outside if necessary and also get in those lanes that allows him to gash a defense.
Suddenly 30-35 points per game is not so hard to imagine, and you’re NOT forced to do it all through the air….
Big Ray
January 25th, 2013
12:48 pm
Afterthoughts …..
If we move to a 3-4, we may have to do it a little slowly, but we’ll see.
In this case, the philosophy may be that the best defense is a very good offense. A dominating one, in fact.
The counter argument partially entails the suggestion that a good defense doesn’t require an offense to play mistake-free and high-charged all the time, therefore scoring 30+ points is not a requirement t assure a win in each contest.
Many here have noted that you need to be dominant on one side of the ball. Which side do you figure we can be dominant on quicker? Offense, or defense? Make your arguments.
And we’re talking plugging in pieces here, not “oh well if Ryan would quit throwing picks” or “If Ryan would stop locking in on WRs” and things of that nature. That argument is no good…we can talk about how much better of a decision maker under center we all are, but that has nothing to do with the draft or free agency.
Big Ray
January 25th, 2013
12:50 pm
Afterthoughts …..
If we move to a 3-4, we may have to do it a little slowly, but we’ll see.
In this case, the philosophy may be that the best defense is a very good offense. A dominating one, in fact.
The counter argument partially entails the suggestion that a good defense doesn’t require an offense to play mistake-free and high-charged all the time, therefore scoring 30+ points is not a requirement t assure a win in each contest.
Needless to say, neither argument is all-inclusive, nor are any of them mutually exclusive.
Jimbo73
January 25th, 2013
1:01 pm
D3
I have been following you since the inception of this blog. I used to respond, but am now really more of an avid reader. I tried to locate the blogs from the ajc main sports section but notice the Brid Cage or Cage is not listed. Is there a url I can add to my favorites to assure I can still find you easily. I am currently using http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-fans but find that sometimes it doesn’t work.
D3
January 25th, 2013
1:22 pm
The Cage Logo — Arno’s fantastic work will be our new logo on each new post. His fantastic work brightened my day right up after that crushing loss.
Great Commentary — The Cage is rolling right along, and I want to thank all of you for helping me absorb that awful loss that I keep thinking about. Comfort in The Cage is a fantastic place to drown sorrows and look to the future.
Ken Strickland
January 25th, 2013
1:27 pm
We all know changes must be made on our OL. I have 2 suggestions. (1) resign LT SBaker, move PKonz to OC, TClabo to RG, and put LHolmes at RT. (2) We put LHolmes at LT, move Konz to OC & put Manley at RG.
I have to totally agree with this WITNESS PROTECTION idea. Almost every player not drafted in the 1st rd is relegated to special teams. Since losing our RG to FA, we’ve unsuccessfully 2 OCs & 2 OT to replace him. We’ve yet to try an OG, like MJohnson, JValdez or AJackson.
We’ve drafted entirely too doggone many developing DLinemen & OLinemen that aren’t being developed. And guess where we’re having most of our OFF and DEF issues. The fact is, all of them have shown excellent special teams ability, and have done well whenever they’ve been given snaps, which is usually during preseason.
Why, and at what point, do they decide to give up on a player and draft his replacement, only to have the same BS happen all over again? Take DE for example. We’ve drafted KBierman, LSidbury, CMathews and JMassaquoi in successive drafts, and we’re still looking to draft another one this yr.
I find it damned hard to believe that any of these DEs prospects could have done worse than REdwards. Yet Smitty and Co continued to run his crippled nonproducing butt out there ahead of them all. They could have gotten better with more snaps, while REdwards actually got worse.
On OFF, it seems only 1st rd picks get any serious consideration under Smitty, like LT Baker, RG PKonz, QB MRyan, WRs RWhite & JJones. Everyone else is either a holdover or lower rd pick that’s not developing or being developed. This crap must stop if we intend to continue any future success.
Paddy O
January 25th, 2013
1:33 pm
coop – you need a dose of sunshine!! Without the Ryan muffs – and really, just the fumbled snap, we hang almost 500 friggin yards on a tough SF defense. I’ll give Koetter a big compliment – he did a hell of a game plan for both playoff games. WE have a very, very good entire franchise. We made some small improvements, provided no injuries, and bring Tony G back – we should find ourselves back in the dome next year.
Paddy O
January 25th, 2013
1:35 pm
arno – being a mic – i’d really like to have little shamrocks bopping around my handle! – at least have it flash green and then gold ! Seriously though – it is a most excellent logo!! I’d buy a t-shirt of it! Need my handle on the back though – and #22.
Matty Bicep
January 25th, 2013
1:35 pm
Gonzalez’s talent at the TE position helped get us as far as we’ve gone, but it cannot get us over the hump.
For giggles, go to google images and type on “Tony Gonzales Open”….You will see and Arial photo of the 4th down play and see that TG was more than capable of getting us over the hump …..I posted the link, but it was removed, my guess is it is a Google Image trademark violation….
D3
January 25th, 2013
1:41 pm
Jimbo73 — Great to see you again. That RSS should work and this Falcons page on the AJC should have it listed
http://www.ajc.com/s/sports/falcons/
If all else fails, you can just google “Bird Cage Falcons” or “The Cage Falcons” and it should come up.
Arno
January 25th, 2013
2:03 pm
Paddy O–
“Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy.” –W.B.Yeats ….So now I know why you are a Falcons fan! lol
About t-shirts, etc– NFL doesn’t like their logos stuck on unofficial gear. I tried to make the Cage falcon different, but it may not be different enough.
Paddy O
January 25th, 2013
2:05 pm
D3- some 2 cent psychiatric advice: don’t rewatch on NFL replay. it makes you all depressed again. we played exceptionally well. well enough to win.
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
2:10 pm
Big Ray, great points. My preference is the defensive argument. We know we can score but we also know we have a hard time preventing people from scoring.
Don’t get me wrong we need some tweeks on offense but they are tweeks especially on the OL and RB.
Mark it down, TG will be back for one more ride. I am feeling it. As someone mentioned before, he is irreplaceable. Ther is no TE in free agency or in the draft that can do what that guy does. What h lacks in straight line speed he makes up in body positioning and the softest pair of hands ever madfe on a TE bar none. The only thing standing in his way and the HOF is the 5 year wait. With that said and whether he comes back or not, we do not need a TE in the first round. There are many more needs we have that are of higher priority.
D3, sign me up for a Cage T-shirt. I’d be the talk of Toronto modeling that baby – boom!
Go Falcons!
D3
January 25th, 2013
2:12 pm
MB — Wow, and just as I was starting to get over the sickness. But look at Roddy White getting interfered with BEFORE RYAN HAD EVEN THROWN THE BALL! I understand refs don’t want to insert themselves in games, but is a legitimate foul still not a foul?
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
2:14 pm
Ken Strick,
I hear you Brother. I am sure MS is a part of our problem. I keep making the anology of the CEO who can take your company to a particular level but unable to move it into the big-time. For our sake I hope he has not hit his ceiling and his development is also part of the “process”.
Arno
January 25th, 2013
2:16 pm
Yeah– I saw that screen shot yesterday from MB. Been in a thick gloom ever since.
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
2:16 pm
Qustion Cagers? –
I haven’t been able to see the replay but was TG open on that 4th down play behind the LB’s?
Did anyone get a chance to look at that part of the post mortem?
D3
January 25th, 2013
2:26 pm
Nookah — Great to see you my Good Vibrations Brother! Go to Google Imgages https://www.google.com/imghp?ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wi and type in “Tony Gonzalez Open” and you’ll see that he was pretty wide open and that Roddy was already getting interfered with before Matt even throws the ball.
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
2:43 pm
Thanks D3. Nuff respect.
Hamad Meander
January 25th, 2013
3:04 pm
Bad news – we lost the game on Sunday. Good news – we improved our draft position. (sarcasm).
So in that, I’m offering my extremely premature 2013 Mock Draft:
1. Margus Hunt – DE – SMU
2. Larry Warford – G – Kentucky
3. Joseph Fauria – TE – UCLA
4. Andre Ellington – RB – Clemson
5. Shawn Williams – S – Georgia
6. Xavier Nixon – OT – Florida
7. A.J. Klien – MLB – Iowa State
LRD
January 25th, 2013
3:10 pm
Thanks Guys.. Had to post that up about Gonzo, Had to tempt me to go look at the picture. Just had to put a thump on the head into my friday afternoon.. .and its not even happy hour yet.
Thanks
Arno
January 25th, 2013
3:18 pm
http://dvzyjrqhqfwpz.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Optimized-Tony-Open.jpg?afbedd
Hamad Meander
January 25th, 2013
3:22 pm
Blog Monster – begone!
Bad news – we lost on Sunday, good news – we improved our draft position!!!
With that, my completely premature 2013 Mock Draft:
1. Margus Hunt – DE – SMU (maybe with a trade down?)
2. Larry Warford – G- Kentucky
3. Joseph Fauria – TE – UCLA
4. Andre Ellington – RB – Clemson
5. Shaun Williams – G – Georgia
6. Xavier Nixon – OT – Florida
7. A.J. Klein – MLB – Iowa State
Both teams in the Superbowl suffered heartbreaking losses in the Championship games last year. Next season – we are due.
D3
January 25th, 2013
3:26 pm
Got so much I want to say and it’s on the tip of my tongue, but my job keeps getting in the way……
Speaking of the referees……
I have no intent on saying that the refs cost us the game, because it should have never been that close and I hate using that as an excuse on not winning games, especially when you’re up 17-0, your defense literally can’t stop anyone, and your QB freezes up at the wrong time. All that being said, however……….
The refs were clearly calling a game of “let them play,” and truth be told they did a pretty good job overall. I’d rather see that style of reffing, than inserting themselves way too far into a big game.
But…….
We can sit here and say, “they weren’t going to make that call at that time and situation in the game” all we want to, regarding the interference on Roddy White (which the freeze angle clearly shows interference and holding before Matt even throwns the ball). But if we’re going to say they weren’t going to inject themselves in the game, let’s take a look at two other “non-injecting” calls:
1) The Falcons defense gets a stop (FINALLY!) on the Niners in the second half for Cliff Matthews barely touching Kaepernick’s facemask. Talk about not injecting yourself into a game. If I’m not mistaken, they use that penalty to go down and score a TD.
2) OK, so maybe that’s the call officially and the refs had to call that since Cliff Matt grazed his facemask. OK, fine. Then you have Matt Ryan get his shoulder dislocated well after the play is over where the dude lays his entire body down on his shoulder. A roughing the passer right there gives us a new set of downs and yards away from the goal-line.
If you’re going to either inject yourself in the game or “let them play” then you have to do it for both sides……period.
Again, I’m not blaming the refs outright, but those calls in that last quarter, specifically that last drive were completely one-sided.
D3
January 25th, 2013
3:32 pm
Again, also not trying to make excuses, but those last few plays Matt Ryan’s shoulder was dislocated. Does he do a better job when his shoulder is healthy? Not to mention the fact the GD penalty wasn’t even called.
D3
January 25th, 2013
3:35 pm
Big Ray / Hamad x 2 / Nookah — All posts are out!
D3
January 25th, 2013
3:37 pm
Both teams in the Superbowl suffered heartbreaking losses in the Championship games last year. Next season – we are due. – Hamad
Very true. Let’s hope our coaching staff uses this as motivation to push that last barrier down, but I have my doubts under Smitty.
Arno
January 25th, 2013
3:41 pm
So what do we do? Say the Falcons are a Super Bowl team in our hearts? Feels pretty sick. I’m left with this– that one of the necessary qualities of a Super Bowl team is the ability of coaching staff to overcome terrible calls. In this case, how? What if Luke or Dom had played in the TB game? When Matt got hurt, CS would have been ready to plug one of those guys in.
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
3:58 pm
D3,
On the Cliff Matthews call, yes they did go down and score a TD and that play would have got our defense off the field because they did not complete the 3rd down play.
You also brought up the “late hit” on Matty by Gholdson. I did nt want to bring it up but that was my immediate reaction when I saw that play. I guess the refs were saying at that point, “I won’t be the one to give a penalty at this point in a game as important as this.”
If that penalty was called then maybe we would have been in the SBowl with McCown as our QB. Go figure.
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
3:59 pm
D3,
Have some faith in your coach amn
. It’s a “PROCESS”! hehehe
JB Falcon
January 25th, 2013
4:36 pm
Just got caught up and now I want to put my hands over my ears and say LA LA LA LA LA “I can’t hear you!” (3 yr old) I refuse to look back at what might have been. It just plain old doesn’t do my mood any good at all.
I’m looking forward to FA, the draft, training camp and another winning season with better results. We’ve been doing that for 47 years now so we ought to be getting pretty good at it. That don’t mean we like losing but looking forward offers more positive things that can happen than looking backward at negative things that have already happened and we can’t do anything about.
Looking forward to see what trick TD has for us this year. Someone already said that we have more needs than we can attempt to fullfil so let’s just see how far we can go with what we have and can make.
I will be happy with three OL & DL linemen, at least 325 lbs each, a durable RB with 4.3 speed, and whatever else TD can come up with.
Nookah
January 25th, 2013
4:43 pm
How much cap space do we have? Any early calculations?
The Time is NOW
January 25th, 2013
5:36 pm
JB Falcon – I always appreciate your perspective.
Thanks to all in the Cage. You have helped pull me up from a deep depression over an unexpected end to an excellent season.
JB Falcon
January 25th, 2013
5:59 pm
Thanks Time. I learned my optimism at an early age when picking up coke bottles on the side of the road with my Mom. She would say, At least we can eat now!
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
6:45 pm
What’s up Cage..
Big Ray, I am going shock you my brother but I AGREE with you. Defensive tackle HAS to be addressed in either free agency or in the April draft. The Falcons are simply pathetic on the DL with an inability to stop the run consistently or generate a consistent pass rush.
The running back pick is easy and the Cocoa Mel has already identified his personal choice. I want Stefan Taylor of Stanford. I also think he could be had in the second or third round depending on his combine numbers. He is the total package at RB; i.e, a clone of Doug Martin, last year’s first round selection by Tampa (mind you they traded up to get him).
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
6:49 pm
As far as the linebacker corps goes, Nicholas is a quality reserve at best and should be moved to special teams full time. He is inadequate in pass coverage, average at best in all other areas. From what I have seen of Dent, if the play is in front of him, he is solid. He offers nothing on the outside so perhaps a shift to the 3-4 will benefit his play and reveal his true value as a linebacker. It was in a 3-4 I think (correct me if I am wrong, UGA fans) that he rose to stardom at UGA.
The secondary…..still waiting on the first move there. The IMMEDIATE termination of secondary coach Tim Lewis.
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
6:51 pm
Nookah, we have a head coach? I am on record as proposing the following new title…
Mike Smith – Chief, Football Administration
Unca' Bob
January 25th, 2013
7:29 pm
Marko, SeminoleWarrior and Nookah,
Welcome back my friends. Long time no see.
SW,
Mike Smith- Coach of the year, as voted by his peers. But, what do they know?
Unca' Bob
January 25th, 2013
7:52 pm
Arno
January 25th, 2013
3:18 pm
What that shot doesn’t show is a 49′er in the end zone to our left and closing. What I agree with is MR2 made the wrong option.
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
7:54 pm
My favorite Gunny, it is good to be back. Had to take some serious time to get myself back together totally and completely from a very tough latter half of 2012.
The coach of the year selection for CFA Smith is a very nice gesture by his peers.
The TeePee’s issue with the CFA is that his team has not shown any change in overall defensive aggression and potential in THREE years. It regressed this year against the run, remained simply pathetic in terms of a pass rush, and could not cover a baby’s bottom with a Pamper.
Someone has to account for the shortcomings. The buck starts with the CFA. He is the final check and balance for all things on this team. Player development….scheme approval…time management…all these factors rest with the CFA. And for the third time in five years, we are left with more questions from the “direction” of the CFA than we have answers.
Not saying that he should be terminated….but I am saying to quote a certain marketing phrase, the CFA needs to do the same thing he is requesting of all of us…..RISE UP.
E43
January 25th, 2013
7:54 pm
Sometimes I think the idea of filling needs becomes a problem because of the falcons development style. Say we draft a SS/FS because he was the best available. Decoud and Moore are both 27/28. It means that guy probably wont see the field until they both turn 30/31. It sounds like a long time. But this situation gives a guy a chance to take away the starting position from Decoud and Moore.
Instead, they shove rookies on the bench and put even more rookies on the future bench. I dont know who is better between
Walker, Peters, Jerry
Owens, Franks
Mathews, Sidbury
This is bad because you need someone making an impact. Instead, you take a year to find out who you will favor. Not unleash… Favor. We have many options. They just never turn the corner. My theory is that its because needs and solid players are not the same thing. New needs always surface. Example is with DE Anderson. None of the guys from his draft are bonafide ends. Just like that, the falcons missed out on what could be a pro bowler with that pick. Its just too risky to put all eggs in the same basket because of the KGB.
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SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
8:02 pm
E43, I will agree with you and ask the following question?
Can anyone name a player that the Falcons have truly DEVELOPED since CFA Smith has been in command? When I say developed, can you name a player that has truly become the class of his position in this league since being brought into the league byCFA Smith?
The only one that I can see that most will cite is QB Matt Ryan…..
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
8:12 pm
I see the Sean Payton is wasting no time on his new defense. While a flop as a head coach, Romeo Crennel is a solid DC.
The hidden one in this in the possibility of Eric Mangini being available. The Tee Pee would LOVE to see this guy as the defensive backs coach for the Falcons. He did an outstanding job as the DB coach for the Patriots where he coached up several players that we scouted by TD, drafted by the Patriots, and went on to win THREE Super Bowls. Among those drafted players were Eills Hobbs, Brandon Merriweather, Asante Samuel, and Eugene Wilson.
Could he (Mangini) do the same with the ATL secondary? It can’t get any worse than what Tim Lewis has done that’s for sure.
Unca' Bob
January 25th, 2013
8:17 pm
SeminoleWarrior,
First and foremost, I hope and pray you and your’s have turned the corner. Please understand, we, my wife and I, have done nothing but given to your family the very best.
I can’t dispute any thing you stated. But, I still have the utmost confidence in Coach Smith and I will continue to do so up to the point he has truely failed in my minds eye. Perhaps it’s just me.
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
8:20 pm
Nookah, according to Bleacher Report, the Falcons are in cap trouble…..a point noted over the last two season by the TeePee.
BR estimates that we will have about $5 million in cap space to use. And what is worse, we finished the 2012 season reportedly just under a half million under the cap.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1482116-calculating-2013-cap-space-for-every-nfl-team#/articles/1482116-calculating-2013-cap-space-for-every-nfl-team
If anyone knows of another source regarding the cap, please share.
Chop Buster
January 25th, 2013
8:31 pm
SW, Dled posted this on his “5 key offseason questions for the Falcons” article concerning the salary cap:
FOR YOU JSS — 2013 SALARY STATUS AS OF 9:40 A.M. 1/25/2013
Current Contracts: 55
TR Share: $0.00 Adjusted Cap: $1,307,540.00
Benefit Share: $0.00 Team Cap: $118,585,890.00
Salary Cap: $0.00 Cap Room: ($117,278,350.00)
Adjustments: $1,000,000.00 Previous Year Carryover: $307,540.00
Player Position Contributor Type Disposition Cap Value Cash Value
TOTAL — – — $118,585,890.00 $89,611,868.00
AVERAGE/PLAYER — – — $1,108,279.35 $837,494.09
Abraham, John DE Contract Current $7,250,000.00 $6,500,000.00
Babineaux, Jonathan DT Contract Current $5,200,000.00 $4,700,000.00
Biermann, Kroy DE Contract Current $3,433,333.00 $2,400,000.00
Blalock, Justin OL Contract Current $7,660,000.00 $4,500,000.00
Bosher, Matt P/K Contract Current $578,950.00 $555,000.00
Brown, LaMark TE Contract Released $667.00 $0.00
Bryant, Matt P/K Contract Current $2,962,500.00 $2,400,000.00
Calvin, Michael WR Contract Released $1,334.00 $0.00
Clabo, Tyson OL Contract Current $6,050,000.00 $4,500,000.00
Coffman, Chase TE Contract Current $630,000.00 $630,000.00
Cone, Kevin WR Contract Current $480,000.00 $480,000.00
Council, Rico LB Contract Released $1,000.00 $0.00
Davis, Dominique QB Contract Current $480,666.00 $480,000.00
Davis, Drew WR Contract Current $480,000.00 $480,000.00
DeCoud, Thomas S Contract Current $2,500,000.00 $1,900,000.00
Dent, Akeem LB Contract Current $760,725.00 $625,000.00
Douglas, Harry WR Contract Current $2,645,833.00 $2,750,000.00
Edwards, Ray DE Contract Released $4,650,000.00 $0.00
Ewing, Bradie RB Contract Current $451,048.00 $405,000.00
Faulcon, Chad S Contract Released $1,000.00 $0.00
Franks, Dominique CB Contract Released $52,764.00 $0.00
Franks, Dominique CB Contract Current $630,000.00 $630,000.00
Frey, Robbie RB Contract Released $667.00 $0.00
Gallarda, Tommy TE Contract Current $480,000.00 $480,000.00
Gruder, Max LB Contract Released $1,000.00 $0.00
Gunn, Harland OL Contract Current $480,000.00 $480,000.00
Hansen, Matt S Contract Current $480,000.00 $480,000.00
Harris, Bryce OL Contract Released $667.00 $0.00
Harris, Jerrell LB Contract Released $2,667.00 $0.00
Harris, Josh OL Contract Current $480,833.00 $480,000.00
Hawley, Joe OL Contract Current $750,795.00 $630,000.00
Holmes, Lamar OL Contract Current $613,400.00 $480,000.00
Horn, Tyler OL Contract Released $667.00 $0.00
Jackson, Marcus WR Contract Released $1,334.00 $0.00
Jackson, Marcus WR Contract Current $405,000.00 $405,000.00
James, Robert LB Contract Current $480,000.00 $480,000.00
Jerry, Peria DT Contract Current $2,010,000.00 $905,000.00
Johnson, Mike OL Contract Current $790,556.00 $630,000.00
Jones, Julio Q WR Contract Current $4,413,750.00 $1,846,250.00
Konz, Peter OL Contract Current $815,591.00 $553,118.00
Manley, Phillipkeith OL Contract Current $480,000.00 $480,000.00
Manley, Phillipkeith OL Contract Released $1,334.00 $0.00
Markett, Marty CB Contract Released $667.00 $0.00
Massaquoi, Jonathan LB Contract Current $522,215.00 $480,000.00
Matthews, Cliff DE Contract Current $566,750.00 $555,000.00
McClain, Robert CB Contract Current $555,000.00 $555,000.00
McClendon, Jacques OL Contract Current $555,000.00 $555,000.00
Meier, Kerry WR Contract Current $614,251.00 $575,000.00
Mitchell, Charles S Contract Current $505,418.00 $480,000.00
Nicholas, Stephen LB Contract Current $3,500,000.00 $2,500,000.00
Nissley, Adam TE Contract Current $406,000.00 $405,000.00
Nzegwu, Louis DE Contract Released $3,334.00 $0.00
Pearcy, Cody WR Contract Released $1,334.00 $0.00
Peters, Corey DT Contract Current $766,750.00 $575,000.00
Regis, Micanor DT Contract Released $2,334.00 $0.00
Regis, Micanor DT Contract Current $405,000.00 $405,000.00
Robertson, Travian DT Contract Current $491,474.00 $480,000.00
Robinson, Dunta CB Contract Current $9,000,000.00 $8,000,000.00
Rodgers, Jacquizz RB Contract Current $602,750.00 $555,000.00
Rodgers, James WR Contract Released $1,334.00 $0.00
Rodgers, James WR Contract Current $405,000.00 $405,000.00
Ryan, Matt QB Contract Current $12,000,000.00 $10,000,000.00
Samuel, Asante CB Contract Current $4,750,000.00 $4,000,000.00
Schiller, Pat LB Contract Current $405,000.00 $405,000.00
Schiller, Pat LB Contract Released $667.00 $0.00
Schillinger, Shann S Contract Current $606,280.00 $575,000.00
Snelling, Jason RB Contract Current $1,208,333.00 $850,000.00
Szczerba, Andrew TE Contract Current $405,000.00 $405,000.00
Tatupu, Lofa LB Contract Released $300,000.00 $0.00
Thompson, Peyton CB Contract Current $405,000.00 $405,000.00
Thompson, Peyton CB Contract Released $667.00 $0.00
Toone, Tim WR Contract Current $480,000.00 $480,000.00
Turner, Michael RB Contract Current $7,500,000.00 $5,500,000.00
Vaughan, Josh RB Contract Current $555,000.00 $555,000.00
Walls, Darrin CB Contract Released $2,834.00 $0.00
Weatherspoon, Sean LB Contract Current $2,348,750.00 $1,047,500.00
White, Sharod WR Contract Current $9,125,000.00 $6,600,000.00
Zimmerman, Dawson P/K Contract Released $667.00 $0.00
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
8:31 pm
UB, as you well know, when a great leader is taken from people, it takes them time to recover if they ever do so. Often, they, the people, remains lost in the wilderness; adrift and detached from all things real. So was the case for many in my family during the Thanksgiving and Christmas season and into the early part of the new year. But with time comes a healing; a conversion. The road is a little easier to travel and we all know that we must move on. Having friends like you and so many others from the Cage that have kept in touch and kept the prayers constant have been critical. I can never thank you enough but know tha from the bottom of my Warrior heart and soul, every thought from you and the First Lady there in the Palmetto State, as well as all those of all those that took the time to care, will never be forgotten.
I appreciate the loyalty and confidence you hold for CFA Smith. He has been at the forefront of a tremendous run. But I want him to search within; there has to be some way he can attempt to fire up this thing. He has to find a way to get more out of this team, especially the defensive side of the ball.
Those last two games were the most painful things I have witnessed in a long time. As I sat in 209 after the SF loss, watching the Halas Trophy leave our field, I cried. I really cried. It hurt so damned bad, my favorite Gunny. Why? To me, there was no way we should have lost that game. We were the superior team that day. And in the words of Dennis Green, “we let them off the hook”.
THREE defensive coordinators on our staff and that was the BEST we could do defensively in two straight weeks. I know the Patriots choked it away; I know Denver choked it away; I know Green Bay choked it away. But all those teams have something I (we) are still dreaming of….that special parade. If CFA Smith does not change something and change it quickly, the window is going to soon start to close.
Love you my brother…thanks for being my brother in arms, my friend, and most of all, my inspiration.
Chop Buster
January 25th, 2013
8:32 pm
D3 I responded to SW’s 8:20pm post and the blog monster ate it. See if you can get him to regurgitate if please. Thanks
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
8:39 pm
Will be standing by to review it, Chop. Thanks.
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
8:45 pm
Big Ray, my alter ego, the Cocoa Mel, is in agreement with the defensive argument. The only offensive addition I want to make is my top RB, Stepfan Taylor. I have been on his bandwagon for a while and I think he will be a tremendous addition to our offense. Like you, TE is not a major issue with me because I believe that Coffman could be a sleeper in a DK scheme.
I for one will be watching the cap situation very closely. I have had my concerns for some time and I pray that they were in error. But the Bleacher Report seems to back me up for the moment. It will be interesting to see what cuts we make and how re-structures will play into the equation in coming weeks.
Paddy O
January 25th, 2013
8:52 pm
nookah – it depends. if Ryan had done an effective pump fake to RW – we might have scored. Tony was double covered and as the ball went to RW, the 2nd inside guy peeled off Tony and went to prevent RW from gaining the 1st down (even if the throw to RW is complete, he does NOT get the 1st down). So, as you watch Tony slide to the right – he appears more open and more open AND, is is highly possible that a good throw would have gotten tony a TD – he played exceptionally well in these 2 playoff games. Also, if you watch – the route run by JJ is a complete waste. I think ryan’s shoulder was REALLY bothering him – and Aikman stated clearly that a separated non – throwing shoulder does impact your passing.
Unca' Bob
January 25th, 2013
8:55 pm
SeminoleWarrior,
Semper Fi my friend. This is what we do.
I’m not sure Coach Nolan is all he was portrayed and a cookie. BVG had way better numbers… Just a thought.
Paddy O
January 25th, 2013
9:00 pm
I’m liking our Draft Guru’s direction so far. His head ups on a slew of player from the 2011 draft was really quite remarkable – many are now top flight – one of the sleepers he pinpointed was Aldon Smith. JJ Watt also got some notice as did JPP. I’m liking the new RB; and a huge DT. We need LB help and CB depth – and, I really am not keen on DeCoud. Regarding player development JULIO! top of his class! but, we underutilized him in the 2nd half.
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
9:13 pm
UB, trust me. Nolan’s defense left me with a lot of BVG reflections in the last two games. And you are correct; BVG had better stats. Which again is why I am so hard on this situation.
How could this effort come to be with THREE skilled defensive coordinators in play? And again why is Tim Lewis still employed as our secondary coach?
Paddy O, thanks for the kind words. And please forgive me for overlooking JJ11?
JB Falcon
January 25th, 2013
9:16 pm
Paddy ). my friend,
JB Falcon
January 25th, 2013
9:17 pm
9:16, posted in error.
JB Falcon
January 25th, 2013
9:22 pm
Paddy O, not that you’re not my friend, I enjoy your posts but hind sight is 20/20. We lost the game but that doesn’t mean, with proper drafting, trades, and improvement that we will not see a better result next year. I know “Wait ’til next year” is old but I prefer to look ahead to the possibilities than looking backward to the past, which is the “past” and unchangeable.
Unca' Bob
January 25th, 2013
9:28 pm
SeminoleWarrior,
Once again I have found myself in the same situation ,year in and year out. All I can do is scratch my head and mutter to myself, in the words of Vince Lombardi, ” What the hell’s goin’ on out there”?
A good night to one and all. Once again, my pillow is calling my name.
SeminoleWarrior
January 25th, 2013
9:32 pm
I feel you, UB. Rest well my friend. Give my best to the First Lady.
Going to break right myself. Take it easy all, God bless, and see you on the other side.
Greg Mendel
January 25th, 2013
10:51 pm
I see Mike Smith was named “Coach of the Year” by Sporting News.
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/football/smith-named-sporting-news-coach-year/nT7Bj/
E43
January 25th, 2013
11:37 pm
SeminoleWarrior- Ill say Coach Thomas’s Brent Grimes so we can sleep happy.
Also, I hate Tim Lewis even if its a strong word. I don’t even know which circle brought him in but would like to see him gone. But our linebacker play making ability was not adequate. Spoon is fine. Dent has an excuse and Nicolas didn’t pick up the slack when Spoon was out. If Nicholas cant roam and hide his weaknesses, next years defense will be just as bad. Then again, I wont be surprised if Lofa Tatupu comes back to relieve his issues in the pass. The falcons effectiveness against TE’s is atrocious.
Geo
January 25th, 2013
11:51 pm
“But look at Roddy White getting interfered with BEFORE RYAN HAD EVEN THROWN THE BALL! I”
I know. And I wonder if that influenced Ryan’s decision, if he thought he could get such an obvious call and a new set of downs…and Tony was running into the endzone with no one who could cover him…
Big Ray
January 26th, 2013
2:00 am
SW ,
I dig the Taylor for RB campaign.
trademark
January 26th, 2013
6:33 am
On the Roddy White interference….that one was tough, situation wise “The Refs aren’t going to call that in that situation” is one thing, but, he was also right at the 5 yard border, where contact is allowed….check the pick again. It’s right at the 5 yard mark.
But Gonzalez was open.
Whatever, it it how it is, for now. Right now we have to concentrate on getting better for the upcoming season, and making sure this never happens again. One or two more plays should do it.
Arno
January 26th, 2013
10:49 am
Somebody posted that Jim Harbaugh, among certain other coaches, could have pulled that game out for us had he been on the Falcons’ sideline. I did not venture to disagree with that statement. Yet Harbaugh, supposedly the new gold standard with his Kaep coup, wasn’t even in the running for coach of the year. So what are other coaches seeing in Smith that is better than Harbaugh? Just wondering…
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
10:59 am
Possibly the willingness to change from a run oriented team to a pass oriented team as dictated by personnel?
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
12:39 pm
What’s up Cage.
Arno, no disrespect to the coaching fraternity. They are entitled to their opinion and I will respect the choice they made.
My issue with CFA Smith is that this defensive unit continues to underachieve in dramatic fashion. We have had five years under CFA Smith and his critical defensive assessment, along with TD in the drafting and scouting/FA moves. This defense is now no better off than it was when he took the reigns.
It is time for the look, the serious look, in the mirror. I know it is going to get old; my referrals to three DC concept. But it has merit. And it warrants discussion. We have changed personnel, added new “leaders”, and incorporated the “reviews” of the previous years. And it just is not working on the defensive side of the ball.
That leads me to only one conclusion….CFA Smith needs to really look within OR he needs to let the designated “leaders” actually lead on their respective sides of the football.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
12:48 pm
Again, I respect the points that many say should have made the difference in our last game; the controversy that was the “missed” interference call on the Ryan to White pass. Truly, the call could have gone either way.
The TeePee views another scenario; one that was two weeks in the making. One that actually we endured more than we should have in the 2012 season. One that goes back a few years. One that is one of the cornerstones of the TeePee’s ongoing disconnect discussions.
Why is it STILL that our defense lacks the ability to stop a third down conversion?
Why is it STILL that our secondary has as many holes in it as a slice of Swiss cheese?
Why is it STILL that we can not sustain a consistent pass rush?
Why is it STILL that our LB corps remains woefully inconsistent/incompetent in pass coverage?
Why is it STILL that the BASIC fundamentals of tackling seem to elude the majority of the defense?
If 60% of those issues were given some serious, in game focus, serious work on during the week, even to the point of benching someone as an example during the game flow (i.e. Nicholas with that stupid penalty that sustained a SF touchdown drive), could we be looking at a different result last week?
The MOST signficant reason the Falcons are at home is: efensive ineptness. The facts prove me out if you just have the courage to take a deep look.
D3
January 26th, 2013
12:52 pm
Great Saturday Cagers!
SW — Can’t disagree one bit with all of your assessments. And I am finally a convert of your “disconnect” theory after spending so long disagreeing with you about it. Totally agree with you now. I know that TD has his faults, but I put most all of the blame on the issues on Smith. He’s the head of the ship, plain and simple.
From DOL’s new post………
The Falcons will consider upgrades and/or open competitions at all defensive spots in order to improve from being ranked 24th overall in the NFL.
http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/atlanta-falcons/2013/jan/25/5-key-offseason-questions-falcons/
I call BS, sir!!!!!!! You mean all those open competitions in the past that yielded NO NEW STARTERS? Hope to goodness I’ll be proven wrong, but starting to lose major faith in Smitty and the bell will toll for thee next season. No cupcake schedule.
D3
January 26th, 2013
1:00 pm
My issue with CFA Smith is that this defensive unit continues to underachieve in dramatic fashion. We have had five years under CFA Smith and his critical defensive assessment, along with TD in the drafting and scouting/FA moves. This defense is now no better off than it was when he took the reigns — SW
AND THERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely can’t say it any better whatsoever. Hell, this defensive line is worse than than the days of Big Grady Jackson and Co.
D3
January 26th, 2013
1:03 pm
Brent Grimes — Easy………..Goodbye. Next………..
Our defensive lines and LBs are pitiful. Dunta and Asante are aging and we need to infuse young talent this year through the draft, but McClain and an improved Chris Owens render Grimes a luxury we can’t afford, nor should even try to keep. How did that $10+ million franchise tag work out this year?
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
1:06 pm
The ability to have input on an aspect of the game that has never been your area of expertise has hurt this team. As TIME noted, has the transition from a run first scheme, the PREFERRED one of CFA Smith (recall he stated that in his introduction five year ago) hurt this team. Was there a real plan to transition or was it an approached forced down upon CFA Smith by the man upstairs, AB?
Evidence. Most say that Turner has lost a step. I will not argue that. But in terms of SHEER numbers, let’s take a look at the regime. Keep in mind the following rule: In CFA Smith’s world, the run would be used to set up the pass, protect the QB, and control the clock. (His words, not mine in his introductory presser in 2008).
2008: MT33 – 376 carries – 4.5 yards per carry, 17 TDs
2009: MT33 – 178 carries – 4.9 yards per carry, 10 TDs (Groin injury cost considerable lost time)
2010: MT33 – 334 carries – 4.2 yards per carry, 12 TDs
2011: MT33 – 301 carries – 4.5 yards per carry, 11 TDs
2012: MT33 – 222 carries – 3.6 yards per carry, 10 TDs (the year of offensive conversion)
Offensive conversion you ask? Yes. The year in which CFA Smith said we would see a better use of MT33; more balance, more integration of others; MT33 being fresh and ready for the stretch run.
Ooooooooookay:
2012 post season (Two games); MT33: 22 carries – 128 yards – 5.8 yards per carry, ZERO TDs.
The rushing attack disappeared!! Totally disappeared.
22 carries in TWO games, games in which we lead at the half by considerable margins TWICE.
Why? Again, look into the mirror. CFA Smith duped us again.
Matty Bicep
January 26th, 2013
1:16 pm
Remember all the consternation regarding:
Our O line, especially with the A gap blitz?
Our short yardage offense?
Our Wasted Turner Carries?
Now it is our defensive line, and just as CS was able to work on the other issues, I feel confident that he will address the D line…..And I am equally as confident that when he does, there will be yet more unforseen issues.
Really, the “stop the insanity” of losing games in similar fashion is not a bad thing, as long as you don’t lose too many games. No, I would say losing 3-4 “similar” games a year is a sign of consistency and being able make tweeks to address the problems we see without causing other problems is an art.
My point, finding a new way to lose every time is NOT a good thing, as a Falcon fan, been there done that. Really, if you give up 6 sacks one week, have your secondary get torched the next week, then lose on a fumble the next week, and a missed FG the next…..now that is the same old falcons.
It is frustrating when you see little progress on the same problem, but once the playoffs arrived, all are old bad habits disappeared….and we still lost….But I think Smittys decision to play abs in week 16 came back to haunt him.
Also, if you go to the Gonzo picture, you can find a link in the article that has 10 minutes of highlights, including the entire last drive….But I agree on the TG play, it could have gone either way, the guy was standing exactly 5 yards out, and he did not use his hands, or initiate contact while the ball was in the air….
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
1:21 pm
D3,
If the Godfather is correct in his report (and I have no reason to dispute him), again I simply say we are about to be duped again.
Open competition? Where? With what? If the players we fielded each week were not the best, then what in the hell does that say about the depth behind them? If we had to call the Vatican for a special prayer cloth for Abe’s ankle so that he could play…what does that say about the long term depth behind him? Not a damned thing.
Oh yes it does. It says TWO things: The depth sucks OR it has not been prepared for the rigors of the game.
Paddy O
January 26th, 2013
1:22 pm
SW – I don’t remember us running the porous “zone coverage” with its chronic phantom hand offs that plagued BVG – do YOU remember us resorting to that pass coverage that much in the regular season? In the Seattle game, I thought it was intentional – leave Miller – who is relatively slow – uncovered and smother the other guys. But when we left Davis wide open, I had to conclude our zone coverage landing zones for C-141’s was back in vogue. Did anybody else see us using that zone coverage that much in the regular season?
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
1:25 pm
Matty B,
I respect your points of order. But I offer one key rebuttal, friend.
When it mattered the most, in too many games this season and in this post season, our coaching staff, with CFA Smith leading the way, disappeared, failed to adjust, and failed to motivate. That is an OLD habit that we have seen too damned much of late. And it finally caught up with us.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
1:26 pm
Thank you, Paddy. I have nothing to add to your assessment.
D3
January 26th, 2013
1:28 pm
Paddy O — Good point. I certainly don’t remember that “soft-cheese” zone during the regular season at all.
D3
January 26th, 2013
1:31 pm
When it mattered the most, in too many games this season and in this post season, our coaching staff, with CFA Smith leading the way, disappeared, failed to adjust, and failed to motivate. That is an OLD habit that we have seen too damned much of late. And it finally caught up with us. — SW
QUOTE OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D@mn, so happy to have you back brother!
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
1:32 pm
One more point…and thanks to Paddy O for reminding me of it.
Zach Miller, a TE with the speed of a damned Hover-Round, was able to exploit the LBs and undercut the safeties to the tune of 8 catches for 142 yards….and average of nearly 18 freaking yards per catch. And we had not a SINGLE adjustment for it.
And we used to give Chris Houston hell for porous coverage? If we could pull the trigger on Chris, it is imperative to call out the inefficiencies of the current scheme, its players, and its coaches.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
1:37 pm
D3, thanks my brother.
Let me be clear to all. I am not anti- Mike Smith. I simply insist that we stop giving dude a free pass when it clearly is incumbent upon him to get this defensive mess fixed. He is a so called defensive minded coach. Not seeing it right now. Again, I say it. There are THREE coordinators on this staff and we got WORSE defensively in EVERY statistic this season. WORSE!!!
He favored a power rushing, ball controlled attack. Okay, it worked early and made him a rising star in the coaching circles.
Now, the transition to a fast attack submarine warfare from CFA Smith’s 1st Armored Division mind set is again making him look like a genius when his TRUE so-called expertise, DEFENSE, stinks!!
Like the Mizzou motto….SHOW ME!!
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
1:45 pm
John Harbaugh fired an ineffective Cam Cameron in mid season because the Ravens offense was simply not getting the job done. It seemed to fire up the offense (from the outside looking in)..
Are we to believe that Jim Caldwell is that damned good as an interim OC to lead the Ravens to the Promised Land offensively?
Or was Caldwell smart enough to use the STRENGTHS of the team in the right situation….and was he smart enough to do it THROUGHOUT the course of a game? DING..DING..DING. Give Caldwell a cigar.
Yet Tim Lewis and Glenn Pires are STILL employed by the Falcons?
Mike
January 26th, 2013
1:49 pm
D3 and SW on defense I was mentioning the other day, since Smitty’s arrival other than Abe, Babineaux, and Nicholaus the starters have pretty much all changed. BVG is no longer around and one of the leagues best defensive minds is now the DC. However we can all look back, 2008 Smittys first game at the helm. We jump out to a 21-0 lead on Detroit. They at one point get within 6… (if my memory serves me right). Fast- forward to Jan 2013 in two playoff games, same thing big leads disappear. And many games in that time period the same result. Now most of those we win, but this is my problem with Smitty…whether it be too conservative or too reckless…it is the culture of his team to surrender bug leads (now there are the exceptions KC 2008, Oak 2008, SF 2009, Ariz 2010, Jax 2011, SD and NY Giants this season). It leads me to believe the problem is Smitty he is the common denominator. Lets look at last week, they had a stop, leading 17-0. SF would have been punting, however a personal fowl penalty. I think that moment every player, coach, and fan felt like oh no ” here we go”. I know at that point I knew SF was going to score on that drive.
Now I will give credit where credit is due. With the Smitty approach the Falcons do little to beat themselves. Few penalties and mistakes. That is why they rarely lose to inferior teams. However when they play teams with equal talent ( I would contend there is not a lot of teams with superior talent, and the ones that may have more talent is by just a little) . Talented teams are going to force mistakes, they force you to do things you aren’t used to doing. That’s where I think Smitty falls short, he is the one that sets the tone and is responsible for how his players respond. I have a hard time understanding how a successful business man like Blank fails to see this. I am sure he holds his Home Depot managers to a high level, either they produce or get replaced. IMO Atlanta although had some holes had SB winning talent this year. I believe they were every bit as good as the last 3 SB winners…on both sides of the ball were built a lot like the 09 Saints and 10 Pack. We all know that’s not something you get every year. This is not last years 49ers. This is a team I felt was peaking and didn’t take advantage of it. Unless there are some serious overhauls and a change of approach next years team will take at least a step back.
Paddy O
January 26th, 2013
1:52 pm
After ABE went out against Seattle – I thought both the Octopus and Massaquo played well – Massaquo was being held on just about every play. Smitty does NOT trust his newly drafted guys – he sticks with vets come hell our high water. one of his rather negative tendencies. selah.
Paddy O
January 26th, 2013
1:55 pm
one of the key reasons I kept advocating for “score 35 before we go into “sit on lead” scheme – we let teams back in due to a lack of a killer instinct. We definately played differently in the 2nd half of both games. and, sadly, in these 2 playoff games, we did not make much adjustments on the defensive side of the ball.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
2:09 pm
Our defensive lines and LBs are pitiful. Dunta and Asante are aging and we need to infuse young talent this year through the draft, but McClain and an improved Chris Owens render Grimes a luxury we can’t afford, nor should even try to keep. How did that $10+ million franchise tag work out this year?
Recall my brother that the TeePee, in a very vocal fashion, immediately went on record with stern opposition to BOTH the Robinson and Samuel moves. I said then that we were not getting any better in coverage (even with the so-called Pro Bowl pedigree) of both. I stated then that there were younger, better CBs out there that could have been had for less (i.e., remember the Richard Marshall calls I lead when he was a FA from Carolina).
Again, we drafted CBs but have not developed them well at all; or either we drafted them all to form a bottleneck as we attempt to find ONE to play the nickel. Houston walked away from Robinson for a reason; replacing him with a rookie from Alabama that they are STILL awaiting on to blossom.
Samuel was allowed to leave New England AND Philly because the coverage skills were starting to erode; sure, he will give you the Sports Center Hit Moment (just like DRob)….but that soft zone coverage and too often woeful tackling is not worth the investment we made in either of them.
It would not hurt me at all if they both we released but that can not happen because there is not much out there at CB in free agency and the draft calls for a more pressing need before we take a cornerback early.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
2:13 pm
Mike at 1:43pm…..you are feeling the same things that I am about CFA Smith.
Again, I am not hating on the dude. He is a very fine football administrator thus my new title for him, Chief, Football Administration. But as a coach, he is missing some key qualities. The two most key that I am going to focus on is the inability to show me his capacity to adjust in battle AND his failing to develop the capability to sustain momentum.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
2:14 pm
Paddy O, that loyalty can on take you so far. Lovie Smith found that out this year.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
2:24 pm
Mike, we all want to assume that Nolan is one of the game’s great defensive minds. He seems to have the resume to say so. But the crack staff here at the TeePee has informed me of a key fact that we need to take a look at.
When Mike Nolan has been the DC with a defensively-themed HC, his defenses have actually seen a drop off compared to the defensive teams he fielded when he was working for HCs that had an offensive background.
1997 – 1999: Redskins – Norv Turner (HC)
2002 – 2004: Ravens – Brian Billick (HC)
2009: Broncos – Josh McDaniels (HC)
2010 – 2011: Dolphins- Tony Sparano (HC)
And the defense of choice: the 3-4 defensive scheme.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
2:52 pm
Courtesy of DO LED..
Are the Falcons set at linebacker? Stephen Nicholas led the team with 116 tackles. Akeem Dent finished his first season as a starter in the team’s base defense.
Nicholas has $10 million in base salary left on a five-year contract he signed after the 2011 season.
Smith and cornerback Dunta Robinson were seen “consulting” with Nicholas during the NFC title game, when it was clear the Falcons had trouble covering tight end Vernon Davis.
Nicholas has been strong against the run, but a liability in coverage. In a passing league, that was one of the reasons why Lofton was not re-signed last season.
Two points: Robinson is a coverage consultant? Are you kidding me? Dude gets torched more tan Kingsford Charcoal, is soft as hell in coverage, and he is is “consulting” someone? And CFA Smith goes to Robinson about advice in coverage? And Nicholas is still on the hook for 10 million yet the Falcons KNEW he was the second coming of Curtis Lofton.
But back to the consulting? Where are Tim Lewis and Glenn Pires, the respective position coaches? Can they offer any better “consulting” to Nicholas than DRob and/or CFA Smith?
And you wonder why I say a disconnect exists? When we have linebackers getting advice from a soft corner that covers like a little grandmother, who had ONE interception all season, then we have an issue.
The “Paid Coverage Guy” had 8 pass defended, 1 interception, 1.5 sacks, and one force fumble. The “Linebacker with whom he served as a consultant” had 4 passes defended, 1 interception, one force fumble, and two sacks.
I say we got more value out of the money we paid the “Linebacker”.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
2:59 pm
News flash….given the major holes we have in the interior of our defense, can we move the run stuffing LB that is Stephen Nicholas to the MLB position and help us there? Perhaps with him and Dent inside, given both of them are solid against the run, we can actually be effective in rush defense.
No need to have an open competition on that….Now let’s see if Biermann can be what we think he can be on the outside at LB opposite Spoon. Perhaps this is where Sidbury or Mass could come to life.
Hey CFA Smith….we just gave you and your other TWO defensive coordinators an idea.
Mike
January 26th, 2013
3:02 pm
D3 I also believe Grimes is gone, I felt last year we could have used the money that was paid to him when the franchise tag was applied and it would be better used to get a descent pass rusher opposite Abe. Seeing how they were 1 play from the SB w/o Grimes it would appear there was some validity to that thought process ( to give credit where credit is due many in here had reservations when it came to applying the tag to Grimes).
Mike
January 26th, 2013
3:48 pm
SW that has been my thought process with the LB’s. There is also Michael Johnson available via FA and this draft should be deep in hybrid DE/OLB. It has to start with the right DT.
D3
January 26th, 2013
4:20 pm
Mike — Great post @ 1:49! Just gave me some good material for my next post I’m working on. I kind of agree about the peaking thing. I think we missed our big chance, specifiically sa Mike Smith as head coach. As long as Blank and TD are in charge, we’ll get it corrected with or without Smitty. I would say on Blank that he simply can’t make a change with such a successful regular season head coach. The Bears just hired a CFL coach for goodness sake.
JB Falcon
January 26th, 2013
4:49 pm
Mike, 3:02. Keep Grimes or re-sign Grimes? Given the ineffectiveness of DR and the age of AS, we’re going to have to have another CB one way or the other. IF Grimes re-habs and comes back full speed ahead we will be hard pressed to find an equal in the draft. The biggest IF is IF he will sign for something semi-reasonable, like 5 yrs @ $30 mil. If Miko doesn’t want to be reasonable we should be able to trade the little shrimp for a pick or two.
JB Falcon
January 26th, 2013
4:55 pm
Oh, and let Grimey play across from AS with DR in the nickle.
Matty Bicep
January 26th, 2013
5:05 pm
My only reservations to moving to a 3-4 is that it is going to require on 1st pick, and we are going to have to find a handful of linebackers somewhere too, since we only have 4 on the roster. I only see Beerman a current DE who can make the transition to LB, or maybe Sid, but I have to believe Sid got on Nolans bad side somewhere along the way..
So that means we need 2-3 defensive starters from somewhere……I just don’t see us doing much on the offensive side of the ball if we have to do that.
Mike
January 26th, 2013
5:16 pm
Watching the SR Bowl. I know we all want DT, but if Absah (DE/OLB) is still on the board it is hard to pass on him. I watch him and the 1st player to come to my mind is J Kearse. Anyone else watching see that?
Mike
January 26th, 2013
5:19 pm
*Ansah
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
5:38 pm
On the obvious lack of defensive adjustments in the playoffs, I think I remember a trend. During the season, we adjusted well when we got behind in the first half. When the defense played strong in the first half, we generally didn’t adjust to the other teams halftime adjustments well.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
5:42 pm
One other observation, after coaching this years players I feel confident that Nolan will make clear to MS and TD what he thinks he needs. I prefer to wait and see what TD delivers. That will yield many clues to the plan for defensive improvement in 2013.
JB Falcon
January 26th, 2013
6:15 pm
Time, I agree on the Nolan post at 5:42. He gracioulsly stated when he first got here that he would do the best he could “with what he had to work with” which wasn’t a 3-4 team playerwise. If we go majority Defense in the draft and FA I think, as you do, that we will pick up the players we need for the 3-4. We’ll see how that theory plays out but I have a sneaking suspicion that NO has done picked up on our plans and that’s why they’re going 3-4.
falcon21
January 26th, 2013
6:17 pm
Nolan did a fine job with what he had to work with. Poor D-line, only one maybe two good but not great LB’s and two aging cornerbacks. If we would have went man to man against SF they would have killed us, Kap could have ran all day.
JB Falcon
January 26th, 2013
6:28 pm
Time, if this shows up twice it’s because the BM done ate the last one. Anyway, I agree with your 5:42 post regarding Nolan. He realized when he got here that we did not have the proper players to run the 3-4. He did mix a little of the 3-4 in with our standard 4-3 this year but I think, with the right players, we will be a lot stronger on D next year. I also hope that Nolan has enough influence to get the players we will need to make the switch. “Atlanta Falcons, 2013 Super Bowl Champs.” That’s got a good ring to it!
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
6:38 pm
After looking at the schedule, I can see the Falcons going 12-4 or 13-3 next year… Depending on the offseason moves.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
6:39 pm
I’m not really scared of any team on that schedule. Maybe I’m still naive…
JB Falcon
January 26th, 2013
6:55 pm
Time, I always shoot for undefeated, all the way through. If Miami can do it? Why not us? (Something like your old handle) I’m not a hunter but have been told that you always shoot for the instant kill shot, however, anywhere near that will do the job.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
7:07 pm
Ah, but when you make major adjustments in a unit there is an element of trial and error, as well as the learning curve, that will likely contribute to losses during a season.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
7:08 pm
A few losses during the season does not preclude a championship.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
7:10 pm
Don’t get me wrong, a perfect season would be the ultimate Falcons thrill. Just don’t see it next year.
Arno
January 26th, 2013
7:32 pm
Pro Bowl here and still no announcement from Tony Gonzalez. I’d thought the Pro Bowl would be a good time for him to say goodbye to the fans. Maybe that is not his style. The longer it goes that we do not hear from him, the more likely it seems to me that he will go another year. Brings me to my point– the eval that Smith is getting from many in the Cage is fair. To my mind, Gonzalez staying would be something to weigh in Smith’s favor.
JB Falcon
January 26th, 2013
7:36 pm
21, I don’t think playing zone was our downfall in that SF game. You are correct in saying we would have gotten killed, even worse, otherwise. All of the theories as to why we lost are sound. It could have been any number of things but my view is, it doesn’t matter at this point in time. We lost and should be thinking about fixing whatever problems we seem to have had and move on. I’m sure our CS has different opinions as to why we lost so I’m willing to let them argue amongst themselves and proceed accordingly. After all, they’re the ones in position to make any corrections/changes.
Time, you’re letting realism and practicality creep in to your optimism. Those thoughts are for sane people.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
7:45 pm
JB Falcon – “Time, you’re letting realism and practicality creep in to your optimism. Those thoughts are for sane people.”
Oops. I forgot the reason I’m here is cause I’m not all there…
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
7:49 pm
Arno – While I agree that such a move by TG would imply confidence in MS ability to get the team to grab the ring, I do not think we should read too much into his decision if he sticks with his plan “never to put these cleats on again” (loosely quoted after SF loss).
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
7:51 pm
Guess I’m saying you can’t have it both ways.
Arno
January 26th, 2013
7:51 pm
Time– Agreed.
JJ
January 26th, 2013
8:02 pm
SW, Welcome back my brother, hope you got some of my emails.
Great, great convos in the cage.
Still cannot wrap my brain over this last game that easily should have had us in the superbowl…but wtf…talent or coaching or CMS?
So the cage is entertaining college players and draft picks?
Hmm, besides a few offensive rookies, name me a rookie that starts in Smitty world???
Arthur wants a new stadium and never forget THAT is the bottom line. Love Arthur but no way he fires smitty for 2 yrs…hate that title this yr…coach of yr…lol…who r u guys kidding and did u watch all the games this yr???
Smitty is nothing more than a CMA, as SW explained.
JB Falcon
January 26th, 2013
8:21 pm
“talent or coaching or CMS?” – JJ
I would say all of the above but truly cannot figure out what MS brings to the equation. Coach of the year because he is in charge of a “damn good team of players with two of the best coordinators.”
Your or I could stand on the sidelines while checking ourselves for colon cancer and keeping our mouth shut and do a better job than MS, or so it seems.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
8:30 pm
I think even those who think Smitty has hit his ceiling, admire his obvious administrative talent. He is an effective upper level manager. The question seems to be whether his subordinates truly enjoy the freedom to utilize the available personnel in the most effective way.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
8:32 pm
And yes, JJ. No way AB gets rid of MS before next season.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
8:34 pm
Getting rid of MS now would scream “Same Old Falcons” on a national level.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
8:36 pm
AB values public perception on a national basis. The Birds are starting to get some grudging respect. This is no time to fire the reigning Coach of the Year.
JB Falcon
January 26th, 2013
8:48 pm
The question seems to be whether his subordinates truly enjoy the freedom to utilize the available personnel in the most effective way.
What freedom?
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
8:51 pm
I will let others who make those arguments explain that in their own words. I’m not trying to make a strawman argument. Just expressing what I think I’ve been reading.
falcon21
January 26th, 2013
8:56 pm
JB @ 7:36, agree it was not our down fall but it is the reason we kept the game close. I know many will disagree but if we would have played man to man, the game would have been over by the end of the 3rd quarter.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
9:03 pm
Again, let the TeePee be clear. I am NOT calling for the termination of CFA Mike Smith. The only termination I am wanting is that of the pathetic secondary coach, Tim Lewis and his counterpart, the inept LB coach Glenn Pires. They are both simply not up to the challenge and we need to move in a new direction IMMEDIATELY in both areas.
JJ, my brother, you nailed it. AB will not be as “forceful” as he was last January. The stadium IS THE priority right now. And it should not be. Damned the NFL and its craziness with palace construction. I give Nathan Deal a hell of a lot of credit….bring more of you own to the table, AB. Why? Nathan knows that this deal will end up costing the state MUCH more than what we are being lead to believe. Look at the excess cost that Hillsbotough County and Tampa picked up when King Richard the Con pushed for the new complex there.
And as nice as that place is, now the league is telling Tampa that it is “old” and in need of upgrade. Give me a break….
I guess AB should do what Benson and the Saints did…..get your hands on $115 million dollars of FEMA funds (wonder how Sandy victims would react if they knew that) and renovate your stadium.
By the way, Benson’s contribution to the renovation. ZERO DOLLARS!!!!
I wonder if the NFL will give FEMA free air time during the Super Bowl to promote preparedness??
Big Ray
January 26th, 2013
9:05 pm
SW ,
Your points are well-received on Smitty, our situation of not being in the SB, and our defensive issues.
Except by Smitty’s lawyer…who is stuck so far up the man’s rectum that he probably thinks his sh!t tastes like chocolate and will be the first to know if any spots appear on his colon. No…really.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
9:10 pm
As far as Coach of the Year goes, I would have given it to Bruce Arians myself. So what he was an interim coach.
Who expected the Colts to have a winning season? Or in the words of a former Colts coach;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7fjDS0jKiE
Big Ray
January 26th, 2013
9:12 pm
One other observation, after coaching this years players I feel confident that Nolan will make clear to MS and TD what he thinks he needs. I prefer to wait and see what TD delivers. That will yield many clues to the plan for defensive improvement in 2013.
I think you are correct. I’m praying it begins with a move to the 3-4 defense.
Big Ray
January 26th, 2013
9:15 pm
I don’t give a damn about the Coach of the Year stuff.
Like others, I’m not calling for Smitty to be fired. You have to have a replacement that can get further, and part of the trick to that is having somebody that is a better manager and also retains (or acquires) the right CS personnel.
Who out there right now can we hire that is guaranteed to do that? And then, how long do you give them to get it all right? Ryan is 27 years old, do you want to give another coach another 5 years to get his ish together?
Has to be an upgrade, and right now…I’m not sure such a person is even available.
That said, also agreed with those who are coming nowhere close to giving Smitty a free pass. He doesn’t get one, period.
Moving right along….
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
9:17 pm
BR, I have just had enough of the same old bullshit lines from the CFA.
Oh sure, I saw the so called tears flow from his face after the title game loss. I would cry too if I had a defense that allowed Zach Miller to be a damned star!!
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
9:21 pm
BR, he gets no free pass from the TeePee. We have called him out for three years now; two years, I called it a disconnect. Now, I call it ineptness in coaching.
It is up to him to prove me wrong. Again, the title is Chief, Football Administration. He has to earn back the title “Coach”.
JB Falcon
January 26th, 2013
9:22 pm
BR, we have NO choice but to keep MS. The only thing we can hope for is a change of attitude.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
9:31 pm
Cage
Recall last spring (and the spring before), I spoke of us reaching a potential cap hell situation. Well, according to the numbers I have seen, we are sitting with about $5 million in cap space. What will we clear? Remember, we have a draft class that we have to sign in the spring.
So what will we REALLY be able to release in order to free up the cap money we need to give Mike Nolan a real chance at a player like DTs Sammie Lee Hill, the big run plugging 330 DT.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
9:34 pm
Big Ray – Smitty’s lawyer, LMAO. I hate it if that’s the way you see me. Oh well.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
9:37 pm
I fully agree with D3 and many others here that this year is put up or shut up time for Smitty. He must show that the D can improve enough to get us a Lombardi under his coaching.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
9:51 pm
Time, I admire you, brother. 12 or 13 wins next season. The TeePee is not feeling it.
I am seeing 10 wins and a hell of a battle brewing for a wild card slot.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
9:54 pm
SW – I can too easily see the record going south of that. Just trying to be optimistic until we start to get a feel for what personnel and scheme we have to work with.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
9:56 pm
Its hard to be too confident after the way this season ended…
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
9:58 pm
Senior Bowl update: Stepfan Taylor averaged 6.4 yards per carry and looked good in blocking and had a reception from my MVP winning QB, EJ Manual.
So happy for my QB who has had a hell of a January…winning the Orange Bowl, being the Senior Bowl MVP…all the time staying fiercely loyal to his mom back home in VA battling breast cancer.
EJ, from one Seminole Warrior to another….great job!!!
Stepfan….doing everything I can to get you into a Falcons uniform this year.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
9:59 pm
Time, nothing but love for you. And I love the optimism. That is what make the Cage great. We bring it both way. And when we bring it, we back it up.
SeminoleWarrior
January 26th, 2013
10:02 pm
Kwann Short looked as dominant as I think he could be as well.
My big board is still in flux but you can see with ease why Taylor and Short are near the top. Stay tuned…the Cocoa is just heating up.
CFA Smith, you can call me collect if you want my assistance.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
10:08 pm
SW – “CFA Smith, you can call me collect if you want my assistance.”
ROFLMAO. I do enjoy the Cage.
Mike
January 26th, 2013
10:19 pm
SW I had Taylor on mine as well. Short I think was good at times. I would have liked to see him demand a few more double teams. I’d read some hype over Ansah, and after seeing him today I am buying it. Washington from UGA was also impressive leaving me to question how the he11 do we put out this talent but not win the natl championship. Still think a DT is the way to go, but have a hard time passing on Ansah if he falls to late 1st round.
Big Ray
January 26th, 2013
10:35 pm
The Time is NOW ,
Negative, ghost rider….the pattern is full.
You are NOT…repeat…NOT Smitty’s lawyer.
But I’m certain you can figure out who is…
Big Ray
January 26th, 2013
10:41 pm
SW ,
Short strikes me as another Ziggy Hood type, maybe…perhaps a bit bigger. Certainly strong and quick enough to win one-on-one battles (something we need desperately), but I don’t think he demands double teams.
He might top out as a more dominant DT in the League than Jonathon Babineaux, which is good. But can he anchor a 3-4? I don’t think he fits that spot as well. If we’re stuck with a 4-3 alignment, I want Short on my squad. If not, I want somebody bigger.
As for Taylor….I see what you’re saying. Dude never has impressed on the 40 yard dash per se, but he strikes you as a guy with VERY good vision, Very good instincts, and the ability to “run away from the pack”, no matter what his 40 yard dash numbers are…
falcon21
January 26th, 2013
10:50 pm
Big Ray, I thought the same thing about Rodgers. I still love the guy but he is not going to out run any DB.
Big Ray
January 26th, 2013
10:58 pm
F21 ,
I hear ya. I think Taylor is faster, though.
The Time is NOW
January 26th, 2013
11:00 pm
Big Ray – Glad to hear it.
I’m a little slow on the uptake, but I gotcha.
Big Ray
January 26th, 2013
11:06 pm
The Time is NOW ,
No sweat.
Big Ray
January 26th, 2013
11:07 pm
Not that walterfootball is anywhere near the “end all, be all” of things, but here is a review on Stepfan Taylor:
http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2013staylor.php
falcon21
January 26th, 2013
11:14 pm
Thanks Big Ray, it sounds good but he seems to match what we already have.
Paddy O
January 27th, 2013
1:02 am
I don’t think Smitty has plateaued. Our team is quite honestly loaded with talent. Loaded. With the right offensive attitude, we could score 40 points a game. Make Dan Fouts look pedestrian. But, we only have about 4 more years to run this high octane offense (1 really IF Tony G comes back). the amazing synergy and challenge opponents have game planning for us can not be downplayed – and, we don’t even run a really dynamic scheme. I love quizz and snelling – but, it would be nice to have a guy with break away speed. especially if that guy can catch. I think we could go 12-4 next year. We shall see – really, too early to call.
Michael
January 27th, 2013
1:04 am
Wabe – since the season began I’ve been saying Mike Smith is a transactional coach and not a tramsformational one and have been getting killed for saying it because so many have been simply blinded by the fact that the team was winning. Thank you for noticing as well that he simply does not have what it takes. He is not a bad guy and he is a competent person. But he places too much emphasis on numbers and seems to have a disconnect when it comes to firing up the hearts of men and leading them.
D3 – You make a strong argument that Dimitroff has performed poorly when it comes to finding linemen on both sides of the ball. However, I think he has also performed poorly in allowing key players to get away. Harvey Dahl was the heart and soul of our O-line. He was mean and nasty and brought a strong presence to the team. We have yet to find a replacement for his toughness and leadership. And now we can see how losing Lofton hurt us as well. He was only consistently one of the leading tacklers in the entire NFL. And this debate about his ability to cover in passing situations only helped to push him out the door. Moreover, he played every game every year.
And what is the deal with not letting players play who clearly have talent? Case in point, Dominque Davis had a hell of a preseason but was inactive all season long as Smith deferred to a QB who didn’t even come to the team until a week before the season began. Antone Smith has great speed as does Chris Owens. Why aren’t either of them running back punts or kickoffs? Why doesn’t Snelling get more touches? All he does is run hard every single time.
Oh well. We’ve gotten used to saying, “Maybe next year.”
Matty Bicep
January 27th, 2013
1:22 am
Actually, we hit on a good point, the downside of losing the league championship game is you can’t fire your coaches, all the good ones are already taken.
But really, all the theories on CMS as being controlling, suffocating, a dottering fool, and a liability, is pretty much conjecture. And I am not a big advocate of coach of the year honors as meaning much, however, I do believe the average NFL coach probably has a lot more knowledge of what is going on in the falcons organization, and what type of coach CMS is than we do. If I am Smittys lawyer, so are the NFL coaches who voted him COTY, because they know what his assistants are saying and what his players are saying, cage members just speculate. But 13-3, winning regular season games does seem to mean more than the average cager thinks it does. But that does not mean we cannot improve, I just don’t get all the anger.
Matty Bicep
January 27th, 2013
1:30 am
And if we are going to criticize Smitty, how does Ryan get a free pass? I will be first to say, Ryan is a great QB, but we saw what we wanted to see, the game on Ryan back to win. He came up short, not that it is fair, but sometime, running a dive play is a good play, if nothing else, it gives the QB a breather, and gives the defense one more thing to think about.
In 3rd and 4, SF had 5 in the box, you can’t be scared to run the ball there……
Birdman
January 27th, 2013
1:41 am
Hello Cage
This team needs a RB and a good DE pass rusher They have the rest with a little OL help and they are set for 2013 season . That’s what they need to take the next step.
Just can't blame Mike Smith
January 27th, 2013
9:00 am
Oh no! Somebody is blaming Mike Smith for things that go wrong with the team! What to do, what to do, what to do (wringing hands with great anxiety).
I know! Let’s try and change the conversation by passing the buck to the quarterback!
Pretty soon things will change from placing blame on the quarterback to some other player, and then another, and then another. What the hey, there is 53 guys to choose from.
Before you know it everybody will be arguing about players again and forget all about Mike Smith and how his flaws affect the team more than that of any player!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa
Wings
January 27th, 2013
9:00 am
I have another opinion why the other coaches selected Mike Smith as Coach of the Year. They do not want Mike Smith fired because they know he will always loose in the play off games. It is one less obstacle in the way to the Super Bowl. So “you know who” must be the lawyer for all of those coaches.
marko
January 27th, 2013
9:55 am
it seems that we’re heavily speculating on the draft already. I’m going to back off a bit until we see where the Falcons go in the free agency meat market. last year in retrospect, our best move might have been the unexpected resigning of Abraham. His ten sacks were pretty much our our entire pass rush. Nolin’s pass rush by committee never quite panned out. Our Defensive backs on the other hand looked pretty good. Surprisingly good considering the lack of a decent pass rush. Fixing our broken pass rush seems to be job one.
what would be the best way to go about putting more pressure on the opposing quarterbacks? based on Nolin’s previous track record, this hasn’t been a persistent problem for him. That said , in the past he’s gotten his rush by committee from a three four alignment. Are we going to go thirty-four?
at any rate,the Falcons will be a different team next year Tony May be sipping Margaritas on beach somewhere. The Burner will most likely be hauling the rock somewhere else. These two loses would seem a bit of a downer, but I’m inclined to believe that our offense will be even better next year. in two playoff games, the offense provided three score leads our defense failed to protect. that’s where we’re going this off season.
If we’ve learned anything about Team Dimitroff Smith, it’s that they don’t just make up stuff as they go along. there has been a long term plan in the works for some time now. They will be actors in free agency, and based on where they go in that area, we’ll have a better grasp of where they are likely to go in the draft.
The Time is NOW
January 27th, 2013
10:26 am
Good analysis, marko.
marko
January 27th, 2013
10:34 am
Thanks, The Time is NOW. Truth be told, time only permits me t be a part timer on D3’s fine site. It’s ok though, I let Seminole an Big Ray do the heavy lifting.
JJ
January 27th, 2013
11:06 am
Mel Kippers revised draft grades for 2012:
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Atlanta Falcons
Round
Pick
Position
Player
College
(2)
55
C
Peter Konz
Wisconsin
(3)
91
T
Lamar Holmes
Southern Mississippi
(5)
157
FB
Bradie Ewing
Wisconsin
(5)
164
DE
Jonathan Massaquoi
Troy
(6)
192
S
Charles Mitchell
Mississippi State
(7)
249
NT
Travian Robertson
South Carolina
Post-draft grade: C
Summary: The Falcons didn’t draft until No. 55 overall, but they got a player I considered the best at his position. Peter Konz was my top-rated center on draft day, and he finished the season as a starter at guard. He should remain as a starter on the interior of Atlanta’s offensive line. There isn’t much to point to after that, but again, this for a team that didn’t have significant holes. The pass rush was an area of concern, and Jonathan Massaquoi still has a chance to develop after being taken at No. 164 overall out of Troy. Late picks Charles Mitchell and Travian Robertson both managed to stick, but so far the draft is basically Konz and some hope for Massaquoi.
New grade: C
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
11:23 am
What’s up Cage.
Will simply say this…when I look at Stepfan, I am mindful of another running back that most of the NFL slept on. Thirty two teams passed on him before the Jacksonville Jaguars took him. And I am quite sure, very sure, that many of those team are still regretting that move.
To me, and it is just MHO, Stepfan reminds me of Maurice Jones Drew. Consistent, hard working, great blocker and receiver, and faster than most think. Both are great interior rushers as well as have the ability to get outside.
D3
January 27th, 2013
11:25 am
Just — That is one of the most non-sensical posts I think I’ve ever read. Sorry, don’t really understand what you are / were trying to say.
Time — RE: UGA, tons of talent, and lack of National Title………one word: Richt. I think Mike Smith and Mark Richt were separated at birth. Mike Richt and Mark Smith.
JJ — How would we know if it’s a good draft class or not since Smitty’s WPP was in full effect. Hell, Konz wouldn’t have even started if not for Reynolds injury.
marko — Great to see you and excellent post.
D3
January 27th, 2013
11:27 am
Wings — Hysterical post RE: Smitty’s COTY award
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
11:31 am
Matty Bicep, my friend.
The TeePee, for one, is not going to point nearly the finger at MR2 that most would suggest. Each year, this QB has gotten better in all facets of his game. In that crunch drive at the end of the NFC title game, it was clear that he was not 100%. But I will say this….the team should have, I repeat, SHOULD NOT, have been in that position in the first place.
Certainly, he made a few bad throws. He had a very untimely interception at a critical junction. But that was a 50/50 issue. RW84 fell down and the pass was a little late.
But the overall game plan and the execution thereof was again, suspect. If Turner was an inept as we thought, why in the hell did we not give Snelling, a bigger back than Rodgers, a shot to move the pile. He has a history of doing so in the past. SF would have been caught off guard for a little while as they transitioned to Snelling. It would have also opened up more screen play activity for we know you have to have MUCH more respect for Snelling as a receiver than you would for Turner.
No matter how you look at it, the bottom line comes back to CFA Smith.
In the words of Stephen A. Smith….”If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it ain’t a damned mongoose.”
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 27th, 2013
11:31 am
SW, 1-26-2013 10:02pm post
“CFA Smith, you can call me collect if you want my assistance”.
Perfect suggestion (offer) to Smith SW, the calling “collect” Southern Bell, out-dated methods of communication is a direct reference to Smiths out-dated coaching philosophy.
JJ
January 27th, 2013
11:33 am
Its not smitty hate but smitty depression. If grandpa McClure is resigned and after we hear about open competition, what are the odds the starters in wk 1 will be exactly the same as las weeks ( minus TE if TG retires)?
Smitty’s witness protection plan drives me nuts. I’m sure well hear about cross-training, what a huge success thats been! 5 winning seasons has been great and smitty gets some credit for his ultra conservative style and low penalties. But its way past time to take the governor off and take some risk before this nucleus of players closes. Start some rookies and sit some veterans who are not performing (nicholas, mcclure, clabo, dante to name a few)! Go ALL OUT (for once) for 60 min…but thats not smitty.
Smitty isnt going anywhere after 5 winning seasons and if things dont change and stay the same, depression sets in about my beloved falcons!
But theres always hope TD will light a fire on some of smittys shortcomings.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
January 27th, 2013
11:33 am
purge the monster D3…
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
11:40 am
JJ, D3 said it best the other day. Open Competition be damned!!
That is as much as gimmick as thinking those clowns in Washington really give a damn about us average Americans.
CFA Smith has managed a very fine organization. But the TeePee feels that he is not the type of aggressive leader needed to get to the finish line. And it pains me to say that. I like the guy..I really do but I just do not sense the killer instinct. Do I want him to lose his job? No. I simply want him to DO his job. Motivate, coach, fire them up, instill a sense of destiny.
There is simply too much of a great unknown about the talent (or lack thereof) on this team. And one way or the other, it, as you said, serves as a restrictor plate (like that NASCAR slang from the Cocoa, lol).
Depression….I like the term. A double dose of Ds. Disconnect and Depression = CFA Smith.
marko
January 27th, 2013
11:43 am
I’ve said that the draft can only be evaluated after free agency, But a free agency move that I‘d consider would be signing Richard Seymour and then drafting Georgia’s own Johnathan Jenkins or Bama’s Jesse Williams to Plug the center. That should put a stop to those annoying 9 yard scampers into the end zone. Abraham and Bierman already showed that he could play standup. Spoon can easily move into one of the interior positions. The bullies won’t push our little guy’s around because our smallish ends have now become rather large linebackers, and in their place we’ve acquired some major beef. Anyway just a thought. Abraham and Seymour are clearly near their finish lines, but they both seem to have at least two good seasons left in their legs, and they couldn’t be in a better position to go out on top than they could here in Atlanta. Eighteen games and ten yards short. We were really that close.
D3
January 27th, 2013
11:45 am
Seminole x 2 / Somebody / JB — Posts are all out.
D3
January 27th, 2013
11:48 am
SW — I would advise not to argue with MB, he will argue with you for arguments sake with nary a resolution or a concession on his part EVER!
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
11:49 am
Big Ray, I can respect the comments about Short. First, we will have to see if the Falcons are going to transition to a 3-4. We want it because it make sense. But it will not happen for that very reason.
Therefore, Short becomes the “big” tackle opposite Babs or Peters. We have to have someone that can clog. Short is 310 pounds and after a few visit to Po Folks, the Varsity,or a few places on the southside, we could get him up to 315-320 with no loss of talent or skills.
Cocoa will make you a counter offer at the DT/NT position. How about Alabama’s Jesse Williams. He is a clog. He dominates against the rush. Thoughts?
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
11:49 am
D3, thanks. Will heed the alert.
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
11:50 am
Marko, sorry.
I just saw your points on Jesse Williams. Totally feel what you are saying. And he is one that I, along with Short, really like.
falcon21
January 27th, 2013
11:56 am
Totally agree with y’all on Williams and or Jenkins.
The Time is NOW
January 27th, 2013
12:52 pm
Regarding last years draft: IMHO it is still too early to evaluate the talent acquired in that class. While it is true that the immediate impact of last years class was clearly minimal, we had a starting lineup that was pretty much set in advance. When a team has enough talent to be able to develop players for the future, such a project normally requires several years if the young player is not a special talent (usually found in the first 2 or 3 rounds).
D3
January 27th, 2013
12:53 pm
Another Big Boy DT to keep an eye on if we either don’t get or pass on Jenkins and / or Williams…….
Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern: Scouts were eager to see if the three-time DII All-American would continue his dominating run-stuffing ways vs. higher-caliber talent. While Williams won’t be able to rush the passer with the consistency that he did in the Mid-America Intercollegiate Conference (school-record 27 career sacks), he showed surprising quickness for his 6-2, 341-pound frame and impressive upper-body strength. Overshadowed by more recognizable names like Kawann Short and Sylvester Williams, this Williams is the defensive tackle whose stock is ascending the quickest following an impressive week of practice — Rob Rang, CBS Sports
Here’s some early mocks that I’ve seen…..
Draftcountdown has us taking Tyler Eifert, TE
Rob Rang of CBS has us taking DE/OLB Dion Jordan
Dane Brugler of CBS has us taking Zach Ertz, TE
WalterFootball has us taking DT Kawaan Short
I will break my TV on draft day if we take any TE.
Starting to like Kawaan Short. Draftcountdown has him listed as 6′3, 315 and he was insanely productive his entire career. 49.5 tackles for loss and 18 sacks in his career. Pretty d@mn impressive.
Dion Jordan scares me. I’m sure his talent and athleticism is sky-high and many are looking for the next Aldon Smith, but only nabbing 5 sacks in the pass-happy Pac 12? I tend to value production way over “upside” because there’s been so many busts in the past and can we really expect Jordan or any other DE/OLB to get a pass rush with our pitiful DT situation?
Form WalterFootball……..
The Falcons have multiple problems they have to address on their defensive line – a unit that struggles to both generate pressure and stop the run. One issue is at defensive tackle next to Jonathan Babineaux. Former first-rounder Peria Jerry hasn’t been able to stay healthy, while Corey Peters wasn’t any good either.
I think they got Peters and Jerry mixed up. When healthy Peters has been good. Jerry has been hurt AND HE’S BEEN TERRIBLE!
D3
January 27th, 2013
12:57 pm
Many of us are loving WalterFootball’s mock draft………
2nd Round
Atlanta Falcons: Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
Peter Konz could eventually move to center and replace Todd McClure, but the Falcons will still need an upgrade at right guard. Because of Konz’s versatility, they can afford to take the top interior lineman available.
6′3, 333. I’m sure that TD will draft a Guard that’s 285 lbs in the 6th round instead.
Arno
January 27th, 2013
12:59 pm
With draft and free agency talks, let’s not overlook guys already on the practice squad like LB Pat Schiller, who is a human rocket.
The Time is NOW
January 27th, 2013
1:02 pm
When you look at players such as Holmes, Ewing, Massaquoi, Taylor and Robinson (and to a lesser extent even Konz; he did look like a rookie at times, and we still don’t know how good of a center he may or may not prove to be) the jury is still out.
In reality, the same applies to some previous year draft picks who appear to be lost in the witness protection program. The coaching staff has clearly decided that for the present time, those players who are not injured are not as good as the other options available on the roster. This evaluation does not require that those “missing” players never will develop into better players than those they will eventually replace. Doesn’t mean they will either.
While we have concerns, we don’t know enough yet to truly evaluate the talent on hand. Hopefully, the coaching staff knows what they have and what they need. One of the advantages of being a successful franchise is the ability to stockpile talent for the future. Are we doing that well?
Time will tell.
Chop Buster
January 27th, 2013
1:09 pm
SW I know you’ve been eyeing Taylor–which I wouldn’t mine having either. I’ve been watching Knile Davis from Arkansas who I think we can get in the 3rd or 4th rounds–maybe later. Dude has nice wheels. Check him out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV6hW2ggiO4
The Time is NOW
January 27th, 2013
1:19 pm
Chop Buster – I can see a nice fit with Knile. (As long as its not the Queen of de Nial.)
The Time is NOW
January 27th, 2013
1:20 pm
However, if memory serves he has had issues with injuries. (Hence a later round pick.)
Chop Buster
January 27th, 2013
2:02 pm
Time, yeah he had some injuries in the past but he would be a steal in later rounds. He has the ability to hit the home run with his speed.
D3
January 27th, 2013
2:07 pm
The 3rd and 4th round seems like a perfect draft class and place to get a stud RB to go along with Quizz and Snelling. No sense in spending a 1st or 2nd rounder on one with the success of Alfr>red Morris – 7th rd and Arian Foster – undrafted……..
3rd Round
Andre Ellington – Clemson – 5′10, 195 – 4.45 Forty
3,434 Rush Yds – 33 TDs – 506 Rcv Yds – 2 TDs
Joseph Randle – Oklahoma St. – 6′1, 200 – 4.5 Forty
3,085 Rush Yds – 40 TDs – 917 Rcv Yds – 3 TDs
Jonathan Franklin – UCLA – 5′11, 195 – 4.55 Forty
4,488 Rush Yds – 31 TDs – 528 Rcv Yds – 3 TDs
Marcus Lattimore – Enormous Potential – But way too much injury risk for 3rd round
4th Round
Stepfan Taylor – Stanford – 5′11, 215 – 4.60 Forty
4,303 Rush Yds – 40 TDs – 778 Rcv Yds – 5 TDs
Le’veon Bell – Mich St. – 6′2, 244 – 4.60 Forty
3,346 Rush Yds – 33 TDs – 531 Rcv Yds – 1 TD
Also really like the find by Chop on Nile Davis from Arkansas. He will be overlooked coming from a trainwreck of a team in college. 6′0, 226 and reportedly ran a 4.33 forty, and racked up 1,322 yards in one season in the SEC. Could be a steal.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2013
2:49 pm
SW ,
Agreed on Short, I don’t have an issue with him at all, would like to have him on the team. I fear we won’t go to a 3-4 as well, and that makes me want Short all the more, because he fits as a bigger 4-3 DT if we stay 4-3.
That said, no issues with Jesse Williams either…and that would make the 3-4 transition better, but I’d still take him if we stay with 4-3.
I’m good with either pick.
I also concur with you on Taylor. He has something special, and maybe that’s what makes me not worry about 40 times and all that.
Big Ray
January 27th, 2013
2:52 pm
Nile Davis might be a steal in later rounds. Then again, he could receive Antone Smith treatment…
Big Ray
January 27th, 2013
2:53 pm
D3 ,
Not so sure about Le’Veon Bell. Read a few things on him…looks too much like a Turner clone at first few glances. Questions about his speed and ability to change directions. I’m sure he’ll be fine as a north/south runner and a guy who can push the pile, but beyond that….
Big Ray
January 27th, 2013
2:57 pm
The thing about FA is Dimitroff is unpredictable.
He may make a move early on, prior to the draft. Or he may not.
Or, make a few minor moves prior to the draft and wait on other stuff to develop later. It’s how we got Asante Samuel. Whatever happens will likely drive us nuts if we have to wait too long, LOL.
But we’ll see. I think it’s always unwise to go out and spend too much too early, but I also think some good moves need to be made before too much time elapses.
Of course, TD will probably also look and see how the FA market unfolds. I’d like to see us pick up a big DT/NT early on though. Or a RB.
D3
January 27th, 2013
3:00 pm
BR — Agree. Can we say TJ Duckett redux? I think Joseph Randle and Stepfan Taylor are the two that I’m looking for the most. Insane production and would be a perfect complement to Quizz and Snelling. Oh wait, if he’s not drafted in the first round than he will be place in the WPP. Smitty’s slogan should be “WPP, where talent goes to disappear!”
D3
January 27th, 2013
3:10 pm
Big Ray — If we stay in the 4-3, I say we cut Babs and clear the almost $5 mill. I know this may sound crazy and harsh, but clearly the starting pair of Babs and Peters isn’t working. Throw in the fact that Babs will be 32 this year and he only has one more year on his contract and I think it just makes sense. He’s been a great Falcon, but this is a business and the DT rotation needs a complete overhaul.
Peters – starter
Babs – cut
Travian – should be put in rotation, off-season to get stronger
Vance – re-sign and rotation #3
1st rd DT – Jesse Williams or Kawaan Short starter
Jerry – meh, whatever. Don’t really save anything by cutting him, but what’s the point? Time to cut your losses.
Sign another guy like SW’s and my boy Sammie Lee Hill as depth. Take a look at this new DT depth:
Corey Peters
Jesse Williams or Kawaan Short
Vance Walker
Travian Robertson
Sammie Lee Hill
BAM!
D3
January 27th, 2013
3:12 pm
Of course we know Smitty will put out the exact same starting rotation as this year in an “open competition” that yields the exact same starters.
TD is going to have to just start taking the control out of Smitty’s hands. Case in point: Michael Turner. If he comes back, even at a reduced price, Smitty will keep using him in the exact same manner.
PoolerSpirit
January 27th, 2013
3:17 pm
I like the guy D3 pointed out from the Walter Football draft…
Atlanta Falcons: Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
Peter Konz could eventually move to center and replace Todd McClure, but the Falcons will still need an upgrade at right guard. Because of Konz’s versatility, they can afford to take the top interior lineman available.
If you watched the Senior Bowl yesterday, you saw this guy, in the words of Mike Mayock, “TURTLE” Kawaan Short, the guy I’ve seen three Cage members talk about drafting… To Turtle means to put one on one’s back… I’d love to move Konz to Center and plug this 333 pound butt-kicker in at right guard… add a speed back in the backfield and we’ll see a big improvement in our running game, and keep our defense off the field more.
PoolerSpirit
January 27th, 2013
3:21 pm
Also liked Cornelius Washington from Georgia at Defensive End… No idea where he’s projected to go, but should be a later round prospect with all the other studs on the Dawgs’ D coming out…
I’ve been liking Stepfan Taylor, but he didn’t impress me very much in yesterday’s game…
JJ
January 27th, 2013
4:04 pm
D3, Reminds me of the movie “Moneyball”, where the gm gets rid of players the coach refuses to sit. Wouldnt mind mcclure if he was “only” a inexpensive backup/mentor. But Im sure he would be a starter again.
D3
January 27th, 2013
4:09 pm
JJ — I knew there was another example I was thinking of: McClure. If McClure is brought back in any capacity, he will be our starting center next year. Bank it!
pooh p
January 27th, 2013
4:29 pm
Homelessness.
JB Falcon
January 27th, 2013
4:33 pm
If we’re going to have a true open competition this year I expect to see some of the witness protection cellmates to see some action. McClure was a last minute signee for lack of a better body to play his position. The way I understand it is Konz was a center to start with and started at tackle just to get to play. I understand it is a good thing to cross train but, to me, that is for emergencies only. If you draft the best center available, let him do what he is the best at. Same thing for the other positions.
D3
January 27th, 2013
4:55 pm
Our UGA boys could really give us some talent to mine this year, especially later in the draft:
First of all, as much as I like big John Jenkins, I think he’s a little risky to take in the first round. Of course taking him @ #30 wouldn’t be that bad.
If Jenkins goes before we get to him, we should really take a look at NT Kwame Geathers. He is 6′5, 355 and would be a perfect fit for either system in my opinion. CBS has him going somewhere around the 5th round.
Another to take a look at would be Abry Jones. He’s 6′3, 308 and would be a perfect as either a DT in a 4-3 or more specifically as a 5 technique if we were making a conversion to the 3-4.
Cornelius Washington would be a great one to take as a developmental DE, which means that he may see the field in 4 years in Smitty’s Witness Protection Program. He looked good at the Senior Bowl yesterday.
Would like to get our hands on Tavarres King at WR as a late round draft pick, but he’s projected to go around 3 or 4th round. Obviously too high for us.
D3
January 27th, 2013
4:58 pm
Just not feeling the top-tier DE’s this year. Dion Jordan, Ansah, Sam Montgomery, Margus Hunt? Just not feeling it at all.
Still think we should sign two FA’s in the market: TE Jared Cook and DE Michael Johnson. Proven commodities in the NFL and both have southern ties (Cook from North Gwinnett HS and played at SC) and MJ went to Georgia Tech.
JJ
January 27th, 2013
5:00 pm
http://www.nfl.com/photos/0ap1000000127438
Screen Pass
January 27th, 2013
5:01 pm
“D3 ,
Not so sure about Le’Veon Bell.” – BR
Agree on not needing a Turner clone, we need to find an all purpose feature back that is a threat in a single back set as well as power formations.
The above sets up me welcoming back the Cocoa Mel, SW. Nice to see you back here spending time. I am still technically on vacation but had to say hi and wanted to get a quick take from your draft guru database. It is way too early but my sniffing brought up a FSU RB named Chris Thompson that looks interesting. I looked at a little film but would love to hear from someone that has watched him a bit…anything there? Looks like good lateral movement and some speed, something seemingly lacking in this years RB class.
Screen Pass
January 27th, 2013
5:03 pm
“Just not feeling the top-tier DE’s this year.” – D3
I’m not too impressed by anything my early scouting has shown in this years draft class. My initial thoughts are get out the picks and dynamite, gonna need some major coal mining to find this drafts gems.
JJ
January 27th, 2013
5:06 pm
Pic above was supposed to be of the falcons cheerleader selected to go to the probowl – Sabrina. But the copy/paste sends you to dallas first. Sabrina is a few clicks down to your right. Predicting heavy rain/high winds for the game…sure they will make a game of it, lol.
JJ
January 27th, 2013
5:08 pm
Moore/Decoud on live at nfl tv.
JJ
January 27th, 2013
5:22 pm
Really like the texans cheerleader unless I was at sea. Then tampa/eagles would make great emergency floating devices.
JJ
January 27th, 2013
5:24 pm
Made u look now, lol.
Mike
January 27th, 2013
5:32 pm
D3 two of the guys I have hoped would be targeted are Cook and Johnson. Right now it appears we will start the offseason with about 5 mill in cap space, releasing Turner and Babineaux as you suggested . Also a new contract for Ryan, though I am sure it would be a significant contract will open up some cap room in the short term. Depending on what may be accomplished through FA, D Robinson could also become a cap casualty. Atlanta is also going to address the interior line through the draft or in FA.. Unless they believe that Johnson is finally ready to start. There is also L Holmes who many believed last year could be moved inside.
D3
January 27th, 2013
5:40 pm
Mike — Good points. I did some very “unscientific and unproven” calculations the other day and I came up with over 20+ million. Grimes is 10.281 all by himself. Gonzo checks in at 5.9. That’s well over $16 million right there. Heck, Will Svitek was a 2+ mill cap hit himself. With all those smaller contracts like Chris Owens, William Moore, Chris Hope, Mike Peterson, McClure, etc. etc. it was over 20 million. Turner is 5.5 mill and Babs is almost 5 also. If those numbers came from Yastinkas, I refuse to believe them.
Put plainly, we’re going to have to make some serious and hard decisions this year. That’s what the best teams do. It’s a business and loyalty CAN NOT get in the way.
D3
January 27th, 2013
5:47 pm
I never profess to know the tiny details of contracts, how they’re counted and all that, but the way I read Dunta’s contract is that we still owe him roughly 5 million of guaranteed money in his contract, so it would cost that just to get rid of him. I think we’ll definitely keep him one more year and may decide to part after that.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/atlanta-falcons/dunta-robinson/
FootballTopFan(c)
January 27th, 2013
5:49 pm
CONGRATULATIONS to the Atlanta Falcons on a terrific season. !!!
Fourteen (14) wins and four losses (4) gave Falcons fans a lot to cheer about.
THANKS to team owner Arthur Blanks and Coach Mike Smith.
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
6:51 pm
Chop, the staff did some research on Davis eariler in the season. He is one to watch.
Cocoa would love to see a little more from him as a blocker and a receiver. If there is film that we have not seen yet on the Tube, please advise.
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
6:54 pm
Love McClure but it is time for him to be let go. Once and for all we need to know what we have in Hawley as a center if we go that route (keeping Konz at guard) or we need to move Konz over as soon as possible and find a true guard.
Andrew Jackson and Mike Johnson…..good bye.
Antone Smith…if you are not going to let dude be involved in the running game, then work him out as a return specialist in the punt or kickoff game. Or is that role forever going to be Rodgers?
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
6:55 pm
D3, I agree. I love Babs but it is time to move on and get younger/bigger at defensive tackle.
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
7:00 pm
D3, if we can sign Sammie Lee Hill as a FA, that would be the steal of the period.
That massive man next to the likes of Peters or Walker…rush defense would improve by a minimum of 10 places in total league standing.
I guarantee it!!
JB Falcon
January 27th, 2013
7:01 pm
SW, Rogers is not the answer for kickoffs. The guy cannot run 100 yards without someone outrunning him. A Smith, at least, has some wheels that work.
D3
January 27th, 2013
7:02 pm
SW — What’s your thoughts on DE Michael Johnson and TE Jared Cook in free agency?
Mike
January 27th, 2013
7:02 pm
Thanks D3 I am far from an expert on how NFL contracts work, but from what I do understand it looks like Dunta would end up being a 2 mil hit this year however from what I understand cutting him next year would free up close to 5. So he has some serious incentive to produce this year. I think he will be back one more year. From what I have read Turner and Babineaux are both probably certainly gone ( both will certainly be released but maybe picked back up).
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
7:06 pm
JB Falcon, I agree. Love Rodgers but he is a situational back.
D3, I am very interested in the Cook signing if they can make it happen. A gold mine of talent there that was never really tapped with that awful offensive situation in Tennessee.
Johnson..Hmmm. I will be honest with you – I see another Ray Edwards situation there. His numbers and playing time exploded this past season after being average at best in three years before. Tread those waters carefully.
SeminoleWarrior
January 27th, 2013
7:09 pm
As I recall, Cook was compared to Vernon Davis when he came out of South Carolina. And I would love to have Davis on my team. Very productive when it counts and a mismatch most of the time.
And as I recall, Cook is faster than Davis.
D3
January 27th, 2013
7:21 pm
SW — Good point on Johnson. I’m looking at this DE crop and thinking very meh, surely no one worth a 1st round pick by the time we draft, at least not in my opinion. For whatever reason, MJ only started 5 games in 2011, but still came away with 6 sacks. I guess I’m thinking that we could get him for a reasonable price, someone who is young and very talented, and could at least be something of an answer at DE without overpaying someone like Osi Umenioyra. While MJ had Geno Atkins next to him, he didn’t have the Williams Mountains and Jared Allen to reap benefits from. Edwards never got over 8 sacks, but I didn’t think he was a bad signing, given the circumstances, so what the hades do I know about DEs.
D3
January 27th, 2013
7:25 pm
I think the Cook signing is a no-brainer and really could help take our offense even a step further. From North Gwinnett HS. Seems like a perfect fit.
Also, the more time that goes by, the more likely it is that Gonzo actually comes back. I’m sure he’s on vacation somewhere with his family thinking it over, but if he’s going to retire, why would he wait to make an announcement?
I would have to think that if we don’t hear a retirement announcement this upcoming week, than the chances of him coming back start to increase.
JJ
January 27th, 2013
7:41 pm
Breesus…plz someone hit him!!!
JB Falcon
January 27th, 2013
7:48 pm
D3, this is just a thought but, after the career TG has had, it seems to me that he would like to make a Ray Lewis exit. How cool would it be if he caught the TD pass to win the SB next year? We were sooo close and he was open. Do you think he wants to live the rest of his life knowing that?
JJ
January 27th, 2013
7:52 pm
NO
Unca' Bob
January 27th, 2013
7:54 pm
I have always been a J Cook fan. I brought him up predraft several years ago. As most know, I’m Carolina fan so I got to see him play a lot. I don’t know if he is faster than Davis, but he can motor.
Check out Travis Frederick, Wisc OC. 6-4, 338#, LG prior to Konz leaving and took over OC after. Bright, high character, high motor kid that loves football. Projected at around #55 overall. Way better prospect than L Warford and his 31″ arms.
JB Falcon
January 27th, 2013
8:19 pm
UB, we already got a Tyranasaurus on our team.
Mike
January 27th, 2013
8:24 pm
Is there a reason Julio isn’t playing?
Unca' Bob
January 27th, 2013
8:39 pm
Willie Mo… Int!!
Unca' Bob
January 27th, 2013
8:42 pm
Mike,
What number is JJ? Fritz is #11, with all due respect.
Unca' Bob
January 27th, 2013
8:46 pm
“Yes there are penalties in the Pro Bowl” That was good.
Mike
January 27th, 2013
8:54 pm
Julio is also 11 he is on the sideline just not playing.
D3
January 27th, 2013
9:09 pm
UB — Sounds good. I like 6′4, 338 and Wisconsin can produce some OL.
What do you guys think William Moore’s contract will look like?
We got DeCoud for 5 years, $17.5 million with 4 guaranteed. I wouldn’t think it would be a TON more than that, maybe 5 years, between 20-22 million? He’ll probably get more guaranteed. He just made the Pro Bowl, but he’s also been hella hurt a lot in his career.
Goldson out of SF and Byrd out of Buffalo are free agents this year, just in case. But TD has never let anyone get away that he didn’t WANT to keep.
Unca' Bob
January 27th, 2013
9:14 pm
D3,
What do you guys think William Moore’s contract will look like?
Think he could use a dependent?
Mike
January 27th, 2013
9:28 pm
His games played will affect the overall contract I am sure. Someone is going to overpay Goldson based on reputation, but he is a liability in coverage. If we are unable to resign Moore, Byrd would be an intriguing pick up.
Mike
January 27th, 2013
9:34 pm
I think Moores games played ( or shall we say not played) will affect the dynamics of a new contract. He is one of the leagues top safeties no doubt. If we are unable to resign him, I would be more intrigued by Byrd than Goldson. I think someone will overpay Goldson based on reputation, but he is a liability in coverage.
Mike
January 27th, 2013
9:36 pm
Ok BM got me
Mike
January 27th, 2013
9:41 pm
One more try here… I think Moore’s games missed will affect the dynamics of a new contract. Also if Reed hits FA then there is a supply demand factor which could bring the price tag on resigning Moore down. If we can’t get it done I am more intrigued by Byrd. Goldson will get a big pay day based on reputation. However he is a liability in coverage.
JB Falcon
January 27th, 2013
9:50 pm
I’m just wondering. If the entire NFC Pro Bowl team were to move to Atlanta, could we win the SB?
Big Ray
January 27th, 2013
9:51 pm
Love McClure but it is time for him to be let go. Once and for all we need to know what we have in Hawley as a center if we go that route (keeping Konz at guard) or we need to move Konz over as soon as possible and find a true guard.
Andrew Jackson and Mike Johnson…..good bye.
Yep…..
Big Ray
January 27th, 2013
9:52 pm
Unca Bob ,
Agreed on Larry Warford….we can do better than that.
Last time we took a short-armed OL….well, you know the story.
falcon21
January 27th, 2013
10:17 pm
I have not seen some of this game, has JJ played at all?
Arno
January 27th, 2013
11:05 pm
I saw Julio play the first two snaps. That’s it. Hurt?
E43
January 27th, 2013
11:09 pm
Dear AJC,
It was brought to my attention that Julio Jones made the probowl this year. It would be mighty nice of you to give an update on his status.
E43
January 27th, 2013
11:10 pm
Does anyone oven care that we have players in the pro bowl?
Wings
January 28th, 2013
7:01 am
Is it ironic that the Blog Monster and Matty Bicep have the same initials – BM.
Big Ray
January 28th, 2013
7:44 am
LOL
Dawson Devitt (D3)
January 28th, 2013
10:12 am
Mike x 3 — Posts are out.
crowmeat
January 28th, 2013
11:31 am
All any nfl team can hope for is a shot at the playoffs! We had our shot, end up at the 10 yard line and not once did we try Julio, tony or roddy in the end-zone!! Who is guilty for that series of play calling??
That’s why we did not advance to the super bowl..lack of proper play calling on our final series!!
You can talk all day about offense and defense BUT the lack of execution and improper play calling cost us the game! Some foder for thought:
Drew Davis is at least 5 times better than Harry Douglas..Yet he has NO chance of a regular job in this regime…why all the chew & ringing of the hands over the departure of T.G.?? In my eyes he is nothing more than an average T.E,..Hey did anybody notice C.Coffman and M.Palmer as capable replacements? Time to say goodby to P.Jerry,Dunta Robinson and A.Samuel..They were beaten like dogs all year long..Lets replace Jerry with C.Peters..Replace D. Robinson with a shut-down corner who knows how to take a man down..I.E. Robert McClain..Replace a.Samuel with chris owen..I think big mouth witherspoon has lost part of his game..Lets spell him with Dent or James!
Try Witherspoon at left D.E….If we can’t get abraham signed to a 1 year deal..Trade him away..Same thing with M.Ryan..Let him play out his contract & if a 1year deal is impossible..Trade him….We have lots of talent on the roster that we are not using Does anyone have a clue who the back up Q/B is when Ryan goes down? Neither have any experience..However D.Davis is by far the better of the 2..Why does he never play?? Why were we never playing the “no huddle” in the playoffs where Ryan is the most comfortable??
Mike
January 28th, 2013
12:40 pm
While we’re at it lets bench Roddy and Julio and play Cone and Meier. Maybe even send all these bums packing and replace them with the Jax Jaguars.
JB Falcon
January 28th, 2013
12:47 pm
Mike, Yeah, and Mularky is out of a job also. We could give him TD’s job.
D3
January 28th, 2013
2:43 pm
NEW POST UP CAGE FAMILY!
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-fans/2013/01/28/can-atlanta-falcons-coach-mike-smith-make-needed-changes/
See you over there………