Atlanta Falcons: Birds Win Huge Game vs. Saints

Falcons Take Another Step

November 29, 2012 - Atlanta, Ga: Atlanta Falcons defensive end John Abraham, right, sacks New Orleans quarterback Drew Brees in the fourth quarter of their 23-13 win over the New Orleans Saints at the Georgia Dome Thursday night in Atlanta, Ga., November 29, 2012. JASON GETZ / JGETZ@AJC.COM

Huge Night by Abe, Defense (AJC)

The offense was anemic after the first drive and it was yet another nail-biter, but the Falcons removed another monkey off their back by beating their fiercest rival Saints on Thursday Night Football. After getting up early 17-0 and giving fans a hope of a blowout, the Falcons offense hit a stonewall and leaned heavily on one of the best defensive efforts likely in it’s history to beat the Saints. Not only did they win a big game, but the defense also nabbed a new career high 5 interceptions from Drew Brees along with snapping his 54 game streak with a touchdown pass. As of Sunday, the Falcons also clinched their 2nd NFC South division title in 3 years with the Tampa Bay Bucs losing to Denver.

Falcons Clinch 2nd NFC South Title in 3 Years

With the Tampa Bay Bucs losing in Denver on Sunday, the Falcons clinched their 2nd NFC South Division Title with 4 games remaining on the season. It’s hasn’t always been pretty and spectacular, but the fact remains that the Falcons still are tied for the best record in the NFL at 11-1 and, besides the Houston Texans, most other teams are finding their own struggles and actually losing games. No one is likely celebrating in Flowery Branch on the news of winning another NFC South Title, but rather on what they need to get fixed in the next month before the playoffs start. However, Coach Smith, all the coaches, the Falcons players, Thomas Dimitroff, Arthur Blank, and everyone else involved with the Atlanta Falcons franchise deserves amazing credit for giving Atlanta and it’s fans something to be proud of, which is a team that is consistently good to great every single year and has a chance at getting the whole thing someday.

Amazing Defensive Effort

November 29, 2012 - Atlanta, Ga: The Atlanta Falcons safety Thomas DeCoud (28) jumps on the back of safety William Moore after Moore's first of two interceptions in their 23-13 win over the New Orleans Saints at the Georgia Dome Thursday night in Atlanta, Ga., November 29, 2012. JASON GETZ / JGETZ@AJC.COM

D's Big Night (AJC)

Really all that needs to be said is the stat line: Drew Brees intercepted 5 times, which has never happened before and the Falcons defense breaks his long-standing TD streak at 54 games. It simply was a beautiful thing to behold, a defense that has had fits trying anything to shut down Brees and one of the more explosive offenses in the NFL the last 5 years. Even though John Abraham came away with only one sack on the night, the entire defense hurried, harangued, and hit Brees all night long to get him out of his comfort zone. The linebackers were all over the place batting balls, making plays, and giving tight coverage. The defensive backfield really stepped up with William Moore looking every bit the Pro Bowler with 2 awesome picks. Thomas DeCoud set the tone with his pick in the endzone in the beginning of the game. Along with Dunta Robinson, Robert McClain continued his excellent year with Christopher Owens having one of the best games of his career. And finally of course, much of the credit goes to one Mike Nolan for finally taking this defense to the next level in less than a year. In fact, if the offense never gets their consistency down, the Falcons defense may have to lead the way in the postseason.

1 for 11 on 3rd Downs. Really?

Let’s all just hope it was a really bad night on offense and not a disturbing trend. Matched up against one of the worst defenses in the NFL, the Falcons offense hit a cement stonewall after their awe-inspiring and dominating first drive. It was a thing of beauty to witness the Falcons shoving the run game down the Saints throats, but after that they evidently checked out. Ryan was off-target, the running game got cute and had some more of those infamous wasted plays, the receivers were dropping the ball and disappearing, and they couldn’t gain a first down to save their lives, normally a very good area (coming into the game as #2 in NFL in 3rd down conversions). Roddy White said they got complacent. Let’s all just hope that it was one of those bad nights, but it’s still unfathomable to understand how an offense loaded with so much talent can get completely shut down. They better get some things fixed and start getting it together very soon because the calendar is running out and they don’t want to head into the playoffs limping on offense. Especially when the defense is playing at such a high level.

Running Game Gets Going………..Early

November 29, 2012 - Atlanta, Ga: Atlanta Falcons running back Jacquizz Rodgers (32) fights for extra yardage as New Orleans Saints defenders tackle him after a gain in their 23-13 win over the New Orleans Saints at the Georgia Dome Thursday night in Atlanta, Ga., November 29, 2012. JASON GETZ / JGETZ@AJC.COM

This Must've Been Later in Game (AJC)

It was the best that Michael Turner has run in a long while. The first offensive drive was a sight to see. Turner was pounding the rock, running hard between the tackles and Jacquizz Rodgers was adding in the quick and shifty runs as a perfect complement. This was exactly what Falcons fans had been waiting to see: a sort of “thunder and lightning” combination. It sure was nice to see, but for whatever reason, the running game and the offense as a whole just fell off a cliff. It was a shame to see the running game going so well early on and the passing game be so terribly off. Which leads directly into the next point.

Will This Team Ever Fully Click?

You surely can’t blame the defense at this point, but this will be an ongoing question either until this team comes together in all three phases or they it will be a case of untapped potential. Yes, they’re still winning, but the teams that find a way to get to the Big Dance and hoist that Lombardi Trophy are the ones that find a way to come together and play great in all three parts. At times it’s been the offense and others it’s been the defense. Others, the special teams has bailed the team out. Fans keep waiting. Offense are you listening?

Woeful Offensive Line

November 29, 2012 - Atlanta, Ga: Atlanta Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan (2) attempts a pass as lineman Peter Konz (66) blocks New Orleans defensive lineman Akiem Hicks (76) in their 23-13 win over the New Orleans Saints at the Georgia Dome Thursday night in Atlanta, Ga., November 29, 2012. JASON GETZ / JGETZ@AJC.COM

A Yucky Offensive Performance (AJC)

There’s nothing else to say that already hasn’t been beaten to a pulp going all the way back to preseason and even last year. There’s certainly no immediate help and, just like the team itself, it seems as though the entire line can’t all perform on a high level at the same time. In the past the problem has been pressure from the outside, particularly from Clabo’s end. Sam Baker has done pretty well overall. During the Saints game, the tackles seem to hold their ground only to see the middle get blown up all game long. Rookie Peter Konz was getting handled, 35 year old Todd McClure had his hands full, and even the usual steady Justin Blalock was shaky. The Falcons don’t have a whole lot of reinforcements available this deep into the season and really didn’t change anything from last year’s underwhelming OL. At this point, it’s up to OL coach Pat Hill and Dirk Koetter to find ways to either improve the OL, minimize the deficiencies, and play to their strengths. Let’s all hope they find a way to fix it the best they can down the homestretch.

Is Ryan a Rhythmic Passer?

There definitely have been times when Matt Ryan has gotten off to a bad start and come back to play well. And surely, to an extent, all quarterbacks need to get some type of rhythm. However, it seems particularly acute with the Falcons quarterback. When Ryan gets off to a good start, he usually finishes with a fantastic day. Look no further than some of the games this year, the first Saints game comes to mind. Maybe it’s unfair to say that Ryan must start good to finish good, but the opposite does seem to be true: when Ryan gets off to a rocky start with constant pressure, he usually struggles the entire game. With this porous offensive line even the best quarterback would have a hard time, but when Ryan has a few bad series to get the game started, it appears to be an uphill battle from that point on. Three games in particular stick out this season in that regard: the Raiders, Cardinals, and the Saints most recent game. Thursday night’s game would seem to be a dream for Ryan with the running game dominating early on, but the passing game was non-existent and managed only one TD after the first drive even though the defense nabbed 5 interceptions. Once again, this may not be all his fault because the offensive line was dreadful and receivers had plenty of drops, but if Ryan needs a good, quick start to get going than that should be an emphasis in game-planning.

Owens Redemption

November 29, 2012 - Atlanta, Ga: Atlanta Falcons cornerback Chris Owens (21) deflects a pass intended for New Orleans Saints wide receiver Joseph Morgan (13) in the first half of their game at the Georgia Dome Thursday night in Atlanta, Ga., November 29, 2012. JASON GETZ / JGETZ@AJC.COM

Owens Good Game (AJC)

It didn’t come in a playoff game, but Christopher Owens had a night to remember. Long known (unfairly) as the main scapegoat to the Debacle in the Dome destruction vs. the Packers in the 2010/11 playoffs, Owens had a big night subbing in for Asante Samuel after the first play of the game. Owens had several nice passes defensed, including an especially athletic one in the endzone that would have otherwise gone for a TD. It was great to finally see Owens play up to his potential that most fans remember back when he took over at the end of 2009. Seeing Owens and Robert McClain doing so well under Mike Nolan’s defense has alleviated some worries at cornerback going forward the next several years.

Will Falcons Ever Find Killer Instinct?

It certainly doesn’t seem so. Stop if you’ve heard this one before. The Falcons get off to a great start, even going up 17-0 in the first half with a foe (the biggest rival in this case) they seem to have on the ropes and on the verge of burying them. And then……….the Falcons let them right back in the game and have to find a way to win at the very end of the game. Yes, it’s going to happen from time to time, especially when playing a good opponent with a high-powered offense. But this is a common occurrence with the Mike Smith led Falcons. It can’t all be put on Smith for getting conservative when getting a big lead (in fact they started throwing the ball after being dominant in the run game on the first series), but do the Falcons always have to put themselves in this position? The score was 17-0 and the defense was playing lights out, only to see the offense hit a brick wall and go 1 for 11 on third down conversions. One of the biggest complaints from fans in the off-season was the Falcons inability to develop any kind of killer instinct. Obviously all wins can’t be blowouts, but whenever the Falcons have a chance to put a game on ice, they simply can not find a way to do it, whatever the reason.

Bird Cage Egg Tosser’s Turn

1) Simple Egg Toss – overall thoughts on beating the hated Saints on Thursday Night Football?

2) Is that one of the best Falcons defensive performances in franchise history?

3) Will the defense carry the torch in the playoffs, instead of the offense?

4) What in Hades happened to the offense?

5) Emerging trend (getting figured out) or just one bad night?

6) Thoughts on the running game vs. the Saints

7) Will this team ever fully click this season or postseason?

8.) Anything left to say about offensive line?

9) Is Ryan a rhythmic passer?

10) Thoughts on Chris Owens superb performance?

11) Will the Falcons ever find a killer instinct in 2012?

12) How good does it feel to be 2012 NFC South Champs?

750 comments Add your comment

Slant Pattern

December 2nd, 2012
8:41 pm

Yummm. Fresh blog space.

falcon21

December 2nd, 2012
8:49 pm

D3, been under the weather here too, anyway no worries, keep up the good work my friend. You are still da man.

snacktastic

December 2nd, 2012
8:53 pm

Bird will be ready to crush the Panthers after the break. Just two more wins and we lock up home-field advantage.

snacktastic

December 2nd, 2012
8:54 pm

…Birds. I’m pretty sure Bird is retired.

Chris

December 2nd, 2012
9:00 pm

Awesome win, dome was a rock’n. There are a few disturbing trends on offence and some db injury woes that are sure to show themselves sometime. I have just one question, will there be a complete game. Offence, defence, and special teams. I haven’t seen a complete game since the Chargers game. Overall a good win but still some uncertianty heading into the playoffs. Can they do it……I believe so…….but then again I always do…..I’m a Falcons Fan……

Michael

December 2nd, 2012
9:04 pm

Hope you are well soon Dawson. Flu’s been going around so be cautious.

I am impressed by Nike Nolan. Mike Smith owes him big time for bailing this team out. I was very anxious to see how well Nolan would scheme having played a team once before. We’ve all seen what he could do in making halftime adjustments. He definitely answered the question of how he makes adjustments after having an entire game under his belt.

As for William Moore, he showed that he can very well be a big time player. He was all over the field…in coverage, coming up in run support to make huge hits, and in making big plays. McClain also turned in yet another great game. And to think Mike Smith cut this guy to start the season. I think its safe to say the team will save some money on the salary cap next year by not re-signing Brent Grimes.

Don’t know why the team abandoned the run game that was going so well. Was it Smith or Koetter? I see this as the main concern going forward (though I know many will disagree and say the O-line is THE biggest). As I’ve stated before, Mike Smith is not a transformational coach, he is a transactional one. Transformational leaders motivate, inspire, and challenge their players to reach above their capabilities or to play at the highest level at all times. Transactional leaders look at and play percentages, nothing more. This method will win you more than you lose, but it doesn’t get you over the proverbial “hump.” I do hope I’m wrong but after listening to his entire press conferences after games each week, he can always throw out a lot of numbers and stats, but I worry about him being able to reach the hearts of men and speak to that when needed.

Congratulations Falcons. You won the division. Now two more wins and we get home field throughout the playoffs!!!

JB Falcon

December 2nd, 2012
9:18 pm

Great post Michael, I hope it’s not true, even though it has merit.

Birdman

December 2nd, 2012
9:24 pm

I think it was a victory that assured them a playoff spot. Now that the Bucs lost they got the NFC South title for 2012

The Saints game showed our defense can realty play hard even when our offence goes flat after a very good run game performance. Turner looked better in this game than he has all year maybe because of the blocking or maybe because the Saints D is no good at stopping the run

Matt Ryan looks as if he could use a break and catch up on some rest . I think it would be good to rest him and White as well as others if they were to clinch the home field in the next 2 or 3 games.

Moor ‘ Spoon and Abe played great in this game they deserve the top 3 best spots over all .

Falcons 2012 NFC South Champs …Gotta love it !!

Cage ya’ll have a good night and God Bless you all and this country

falcon21

December 2nd, 2012
9:34 pm

Birdman, no disrespect buddy but Ryan don’t need rest, he needs a good o-line.

Birdman

December 2nd, 2012
9:38 pm

I here you on that 21 and agree
. But I think a few weeks off would make a lot of them play better and have the fire reborn that we saw in the first 2 games of the year

falcon21

December 2nd, 2012
9:45 pm

You may be right Birdman but I’m not big on resting your players at this time of season. They need to get their act together now and go on a roll.

Arno

December 2nd, 2012
10:04 pm

Z-Atlanta

looks pretty good on the espn standings page

Matty Bicep

December 2nd, 2012
10:11 pm

It is the catch 22, there is something to being for being desperate. I truly agree with 1 week at a time, and not to be looking down the road, so we are in no-mans land. I just don’t expect to see anything exotic, even guy Smitty’s standards.

DHunt

December 2nd, 2012
10:34 pm

Would not be surprised if you saw nothing but vanilla from Atlanta’s offense for the rest of the regular season. We can win 2 of 4 with that, and that’s all we need for homefield throughout playoffs. So why pull out anything you may want to save for the playoffs at this point. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence that GB and NYG were very prepared for what the Falcons had to offer the past two playoff appearances. Now everyone is going A-Gap, and trying to figure out which Falcon’s receiver to leave open. May be a good idea to keep them wondering. Keep the starters in, keep them playing, but keep it fundamental.

dbird1

December 2nd, 2012
11:04 pm

Nfc south champs. Ordered my shirt today. Hey seen, maybe you could get a nfc south 3rd place shirt made up. You know, everyone gets a ribbon. Lol !!!!! :)

Slant Pattern

December 2nd, 2012
11:23 pm

“Birdman, no disrespect buddy but Ryan don’t need rest, he needs a good o-line.” – falcon21

QFT. I try to just ignore certain things but every now and again even I get impressed with the bizarre stuff people come up with. Case in point, a Baker homer (yes apparently he does have one at least) was complaining about the announcers calling him out for getting beat like a drum and Ryan smahed. His post was along the line of “I don’t understand why people are so hard on Baker, I mean Ryan got the ball away”. Ryan has gotten pummeled far too often this year and it is amazing alot of our fanbase doesn’t see or care.
I don’t know what to say about resting up yet. I would like to see us go all out against NY Vagiants to take stock of where we are at. After that I wouldn’t mind seeing Dom Davis get the nod after a first series in the last two. Getting him some exposure will possibly raise his trade value up to a nice point if he does well. I don’t think Ryan is the resting type tho. I see alot of posts about “hiding” stuff but we have heard that song before. I don’t buy it for one second. The things we need to work on have to be battle tested and not just practice field perfection. We have seen the results from that too and most often they were not good.

Sick & Tired Of Being Sick & Tired

December 3rd, 2012
12:12 am

CONGRATS to the Falcons for clinching the NFC South title.

However, I agree with some of the other bloggers who’ve mentioned the lack of production from the Falcons’ O-Line. The team is stuck this year with what they have but hopefully the replacements for McClure, Clabo, and Baker can be identified before the season starts next year. They are simply too small in size to be effective against bigger/stronger linemen.

Falcons Continue To Rise Up!!!!!

Big Lou

December 3rd, 2012
1:27 am

SP

I agree. I hope the SF 49ers start winning so the Falcons keep trying. I want the best effort versus the Giants. I want to see if our Oline can hold up against the best pass rush in the league and if the screen game will work. I am still looking for that dominant game like the Chargers where we had starters resting in the 3rd quarter. I want the defense like the Cowbous/Saints game and the offense like the Chiefs/Eagles game clicking at the same time!

Enough of this conservative, fail execution, excuse making BS. Pull out all the stops and blow out some teams!

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Zoomie

December 3rd, 2012
5:45 am

Get well soon, D3.

The Falcons could’ve effectively run against the Aints the entire game. A few short gains, and TFLs, but most of the runs were effective. The Falcons just abandoned the run for some reason.

Screens were taking too much time to develop, too obvious, and ill-timed. I was a little perplexed with the play-calling during this game. Hence, my earlier question about Koetter: I’m starting to wonder if he’s the guy that should have the keys to this high-powered, high-octane offense. WHERE THE HELL IS THE NO-HUDDLE?

(Is it just me, or are the Falcons exhibiting the disturbing trend of attacking the other team’s defensive STRENGTHS?)

Much of the Falcons’ offensive failure was due to good defense from the Aints. Beyond that, I pin the dull offensive performance mostly on the O-line. McClure and Konz got handled most of the game. Baker started fading to the inside to shore up the middle and the pocket started getting squeezed from the left side as well. Clabo had another decent showing in this game.

Not alarmed yet. Fatigue, especially by the rookie and the Old Man of the Line, could reasonably be expected on a short week. I’ll wait to see if they improve moving forward.

(I know the soft middle has been an issue in earlier games, but Konz is still pretty new to the mix. The Falcons are winning, so he has the latitude to grow and improve.)

Of the broken pass plays, there were three obvious WR drops that should’ve been catches. There were five bad throws by Deuce (but he didn’t have much of a pocket). The rest of the broken pass plays were primarily due to good defense by the Aints.

On the crosses and slants, the Falcons’ WRs are tailing downfield at the peak of their routes. This has been the cause of two of Ryan’s picks this year, and the cause of a few of the broken pass plays. A lack of fundamentals/discipline on the part of the WR corps. Slants and crosses must be run crisply and, if anything, cheating back toward the QB. Fading downfield allows the defender to undercut the route too easily. HD83 and RW84, I’m talking to you. (Something for you to watch too, JJ11.)

I’m not going to write a single critique on the Falcons’ defense. They earned a Fan B*tch Pass with this game!

Seems we all want to see the Falcons beat down some other team, as has been done to them too many times. That would be good, but with all their faults, this team just keeps winning. Maybe as others have said, they’re holding back now, waiting to let it all hang out in the playoffs. As it is, the Falcons are a pretty damn good football team and, I believe, will only get better. Onward and upward!

(Here, kitty – kitty . . .)

marko

December 3rd, 2012
6:10 am

Another ugly win. As I watched the games this weekend, I became convinced that ugly wins beat the hell out of moral victories. As it now stands , the top seed’s ours to lose. The Falcons have a commanding three game lead over every other team in the NFC. Two of our four remaining opponents , the Panthers, and the Lions have sub 500 records. The Bucs are 500, and the mighty Giants are a whopping 7 and 4. By the numbers, the Falcons are the best team in the NFC. This is December, The last few Super Bowls have been dominated by teams like the Giants, and the Packers. Lackluster teams with mediocre records that picked the right time to wake up and smell the coffee.

At this point, the Birds could settle for five hundred, and sleep walk into the playoffs. I hope they avoid that route. They’ve managed the best record in the league without ever bothering to play their best ball. This is the time to rise up. This should be our time to take in a strong whiff of coffee. We have the best record , but few give us credit for being the best team. They shouldn’t. Not till we prove it.

Last year the Giants held our offense scoreless. If the Falcons really want to make a statement, they’ll kick their butts all over the field. the Lions and Panthers are enjoying miserable seasons. Let’s see to it that they stay that way. The pesky Bucks are still entertaining playoff hopes. All that enter the Georgia dome should be prepared to abandon hope.For outsiders it doesn’t exist beneath our roof.

Wings

December 3rd, 2012
6:43 am

Congratulations Falcons!!! Now the play ahead will require more!!

Michael – “..but I worry about him (Smitty) being able to reach the hearts of men and speak to that when needed.”

It needs repeating because it is the best communication and will be required to win a Super Bow.

Big Lou – “Enough of this conservative, fail execution, excuse making BS. Pull out all the stops and blow out some teams!”

New York Jets win 7-6 over Arizona Cardinals. HC Smith’s dream score. More points please!!

Sandra

December 3rd, 2012
7:07 am

It was an exciting game! Congratulations to the Falcons for winning the division. Go Falcons!

Chop Buster

December 3rd, 2012
7:12 am

NFC South Champs – Check
Homefield Advantage throughout
NFC Champions -
Superbowl -

One game at a time. Let’s play tough, disciplined, attacking football to keep our opponents down. Time to steamroll some teams and stop the sportsman like play (sitting on leads).

The Time is NOW

December 3rd, 2012
9:18 am

Congratulations to the NFC South Champs! More work to be done now. Finish strong and get on a roll, while hopefully allowing some of the walking wounded to heal up for the playoffs. Hated to read about the lack of historical success for teams starting 11-1, but I still believe the Falcons have a legitimate shot this year.

Big Lou

December 3rd, 2012
9:28 am

By the way…

Remember how I clamored for Russel Wilson in the draft?

I knew the kid will be a stud. Seahawks look like they will make the playoffs.

Hamad Meander

December 3rd, 2012
10:24 am

I was at the game Thursday night (wanted to hide in theDome until Saturday afternoon, but they found me!), and I want to say a few things: 1. Ugly wins are wins and I’ll take them all day long. 2. Why is a win where you force 5 INTs from a Hall of Fame QB “ugly”? 3. The Dome is tired and needs to be replaced (sarcasm). 4. We were 3 or 4 plays away from a complete blow-out of the Saints.

I still like this team very m uch and think they will go far.

SPS

December 3rd, 2012
10:27 am

Looks like a stress free December ahead for a change. It would be nice to lock up home field advantage in 2 weeks and play the final 2 like preseason games – starters only playing a couple of series. Stay sharp, but stay healthy.

I’m pulling for the Rams to get a wild card slot so they can knock off the 49ers again. What’s going on with that? And Peter King still has the 49ers ranked ahead of us. Then again he predicted the Panthers to win our division in 2010. He only missed that one by about 13 games.

Geo

December 3rd, 2012
11:08 am

SP: ” I see alot of posts about “hiding” stuff but we have heard that song before. I don’t buy it for one second.”

Agree. We’ve heard the same thing the last two seasons, and it never materialized. I will believe it when I see it.

Our offensive creativity seems to be regressing. I want to say that the reason is because of an effort to get Michael Turner going, but I just checked the playing time percentages, and he was in for 34% of the offense while Quizz was in for 53%. Then again, that could be enough. I know there were several touches for Turner that looked like Quizz would have gotten significant extra yardage out of. He should never be thrown to, and yet he was at least a couple of times against New Orleans.

So, is Koetter a smart, creative OC that is being handcuffed by Smitty and his Turner fixation? Can Turner still be involved without turning us into an easily defensed team with a worn out playbook?

Michael

December 3rd, 2012
11:19 am

Wings and JB Falcon

I do hope I’m wrong about Smith but again, just from listening to him speak the last five years, he is a data driven manager, not a transformative figure and in the end, that may very well hurt their long range chances. As a case study, observe Tom Couglin. Early in his head coaching tenure in Jacksonville and even in New York, he was a numbers person. He had his players winning games, but not championships. It wasn’t until AFTER his Giants team almost revolted on him and some seasoning did he become a more transformative leader, speaking to the motivation of men and not just addressing metrics. If Smith cannot do this, I fear for my heart because it sure can’t take much more disappointment and another off-season of hoping yet again, Rise Up!!!

BobbyDawg

December 3rd, 2012
11:31 am

I would love to see us end the regular season at 15 — 1, but more than that I hope we advance in the playoffs. Either way it’s GREAT to be a Falcon fan. GO BIRDS.

D3

December 3rd, 2012
11:40 am

Greetings Cage Family! — Over halfway done with new post. Not back to 100%, but am feeling better.

2012 NFC SOUTH CHAMPS!………..but I doubt anyone in Flowery Branch is celebrating that. But we can.

See you later…….

Geo

December 3rd, 2012
11:45 am

D3, get plenty of rest and mend. We got this.

Yeah, NFC South Champs. Gotta love it. And love hearing all the talk about teams fighting for spots, who’s in, who’s out, while we cruise into the post season.

Matty Bicep

December 3rd, 2012
11:45 am

Michael, I have compared Smitty to Coughlin often. They are both very similar, number crunchers who require discipline and near perfection, guys who understand the field position, clock management, penalty chess match that is today’s NFL.

But the changes in Coughlin are not dramatic, for if they were, no way he insists on running the ball all year after finishing the regular season with the worse YPC in the NFL. But I think he was able to crack the code to understand and speak to the stress his style puts on his players. to get them to play loose….I think Ryan’s mindset it key to our playoff success. If he is loose and throwing it around, we will be OK, hopefully he learned something from the NO win.

Coop

December 3rd, 2012
11:52 am

Play hard every game. Resting or going vanilla either leads to players getting hurt by playing “not to get hurt” or a team that can’t switch it back on. I’ve yet to see us play a complete game anyway.

Big Ray

December 3rd, 2012
12:26 pm

D3 – get well. But thanks for the new blog space! ;)

Big Ray

December 3rd, 2012
12:28 pm

The only person on the CS I can see “hiding something” for the playoffs would be Nolan.

Smitty only hides from the media when it comes to injuries to players or who will get the starting job.

Koetter – who knows? The groom is still worried about the shotgun the father of the bride is holding…

Big Ray

December 3rd, 2012
12:44 pm

Offensive thoughts:

1) Turner can still be useful. He looks sometimes like his runs are inspired…sometimes like they are not. But we should not throw to him. At least not by design. There will be plays, no doubt, where there are no choices or certainly worse ones. I’d say there is a trick to when to use Turner, but the fact is we just don’t know when the OL is actually going to open a hole.

2) Rodgers has a good deal more of an ability to gash a defense. Therefore, he should be the first guy to get carries. Plus, he can make guys miss. Furthermore, he is better at turning a short pass into something than Turner could ever hope to be.

3) Some of these passing routes really stink. As somebody else already said, they allow DBs to make a break on the ball while not having to change direction. I’ll say it again – most of the INTs Ryan is throwing involves DBs not having to change direction or even cross the field to make a play. Now you can look at that two ways – you can fault Ryan alone for this (and he does deserve some fault either way) or you can entertain the idea that there is some flaw in play design.

4) I don’t know what to say about the OL other than consistency would be nice. Folks don’t often “rise to the occasion” as much as they are reduced to their level of talent and training. Not a nice thing to say, but facts are facts. Against playoff teams, the running game will depend partially on how well the OL can open up holes. More importantly, since we go as far as Ryan takes us, that means also as well as the OL protects. Given time, Ryan can usually find the open guy or at least the guy who can make the play. Most teams can’t cover all of our guys as long as we don’t go all vanilla with Turner in the backfield as a blocker, rather than a threat.

Big Lou

December 3rd, 2012
12:45 pm

Top five defenses in the league with points allowed(most important stat, screw yards allowed):

SF 14.3
Chi 16.5
Sea 16.8
Hou 18.4
Atl 19.1

Not too freaking bad, Mike Nolan. Not too freaking bad. Yet, I was pointing out the Dolphin’s points allowed stats when he got hired in the beginning(which was 6th last year).

Big Lou

December 3rd, 2012
12:48 pm

If you think about it, the defense only had two bad games this season. The one against Carolina at home, and the one against Drew Brees with no Sean W.

Defense will make a huge difference this year going into the playoffs. I just hope the offense gets it together.

Big Ray

December 3rd, 2012
12:52 pm

The teams that got hot, that made playoff runs…they didn’t let off the pedal. Yeah, rested some guys in the end, but there was no slacking on execution. Lord knows THIS team, as much as they’ve won, cannot afford to slack off AT ALL.

Here’s another thought – I have mixed feelings about a bye for the first round of the playoffs. Sure, it gives you time to rest your guys (especially those with ailments). Sure, it gives you time to gameplan. But that hasn’t worked for us in the past, so I have a hard time feeling like it’s an advantage. But what does it do for intensity?

A bye works out best for us if it gives us a favorable matchup…in other words if it puts us against a team that we match up well with. Otherwise…ehhh, I don’t know. Case in point – SF seems to have it rough every time against St. Louis…because the Rams match up well with them.

Big Ray

December 3rd, 2012
12:53 pm

Big Lou,

Good points on Nolan and the defense.

Greg Mendel

December 3rd, 2012
12:53 pm

I’ve decided to follow the Falcons in one-game-at-a-time mode from here on out. They’ve won the division and a place in the playoffs. They can get some icing on that cake with home field and a bye, but that didn’t do them any good against the Packers.

Conjecture can be entertaining, but it’s still guessing. What we know for sure is that Smith’s team has delivered five straight winning seasons, and has won 11 games out of 12 so far in 2012. We also know the team has lost all three playoff games since 2008.

Of the four remaining regular season games, we could win them all, lose them all, or have a mix. No guarantees. We could be one-and-out again, or…?

Personally, I don’t think the Falcons (or any other team) are hiding any special magic for the playoffs. I’m guessing they start the first playoff game with the same conservative plan that got them all those regular season wins. But I’ll bet, this time, there will be a Plan B ready to uncork the moment it’s needed. It may fall short, but that playoff Albatross has grown bigger than the team bus.

LRD

December 3rd, 2012
1:40 pm

Heading to the playoffs.. is ATL really hot? Or just consistent? I say we are consistent and I am waiting for the clutch to be pushed down and we go into 5th gear. We have seen glimpses of it this year, but again, as a Team, I have yet to see a complete game.
I actually think this bodes well for us.. and expect the 5th gear to be seen against the Giants, as that is when we need the urgency and for the team to get “hot”. We need that payback against the Giants oh so bad… break yet another mental chain.

Paddy O

December 3rd, 2012
1:42 pm

That first interception and the last one were things of beauty.

Paddy O

December 3rd, 2012
1:45 pm

I have lost a lot of what little faith I had in Welcome Back. He does not come up with very innovative game plans. Nor does he make quick – say, after a single 3 & out possession – adjustments – especially when the O line is getting smashed around. I’m really wanting MORE, a LOT more no-huddle. Especially if we go consecutive 3 & outs.

Wings

December 3rd, 2012
2:06 pm

Big Ray if your four points were followed, the Falcons would win the Super Bowl.

Big Lou I would bet on it that HC Smith had some hands in those two games. He didn’t have as much time to “interfere” last week and was limited to the offense.

Wings

December 3rd, 2012
2:07 pm

Paddy O I don’t think we can say it is Koetter yet. He was give a set of plays, a running back forced on him, and the guy with the shotgun.

Chop Buster

December 3rd, 2012
2:10 pm

Paddy, I thought I read somewhere that Smitty controls when we go in and out of the no-huddle. I am mixed as to what is really going on with the offense. I don’t know if Koetter’s hands are tied by Mularkey’s playbook or he (Koetter) just can’t make the in-game offense adjustments.

Chop Buster

December 3rd, 2012
2:14 pm

Wings (2:07)- “He was give a set of plays, a running back forced on him, and the guy with the shotgun.” LOL…you’re right. All we can go is guess what may be going on offensively. I just wish I could be a fly on the wall for one game planning session.

Michael

December 3rd, 2012
2:53 pm

Matty Bicep

My point exactly. Coughlin realized something had to give and that something was him and not his players.

Jimmy Johnson said it best on the NFL on FOC pregame:

“If a no name player falls asleep in the team meeting you wake him up and cut him. If Troy Aikman falls asleep in the team meeting, you wake him up and tell him what he missed.”

Like it or not, the NFL is filled with premadonna personalities who each have to be handled differently. It is not a matter of numbers all the time, sometimes its a matter of speaking the language that may be unique to that individual player. I’m just not sure I see that yet in Smith. But as I said, I hope I’m very wrong.

Wabe

December 3rd, 2012
2:56 pm

I would play it vanilla as can be against the Giants…

There’s a very good chance that the Falcons could wind up playing the Giants in their opening playoff game a month or so from their meeting 2 weeks from now. Makes little sense to play it with maximum effort showing anything on either side of the ball. I’d rather them play it lightly, seeing that there will be little on the line a couple weeks from now.

Wabe

December 3rd, 2012
2:58 pm

And I agree with what SP’s saying…

I don’t think the Falcons have been hiding anything thus far. They’ve been playing it aggressively, IMO, but they’ve just got flaws that have held them back. It’s not their own desire of not showing too much, it has more to do with a blueprint that the league has found on how to derail this offense.

The pressure up the middle has hindered Ryan’s ability to find his guys. Koetter has yet to show he knows how to exploit these A-gap blitzes and calm any pass rush down.

Matty Bicep

December 3rd, 2012
3:14 pm

The pressure up the middle has hindered Ryan’s ability to find his guys. Koetter has yet to show he knows how to exploit these A-gap blitzes and calm any pass rush down.

Ryan has to get out of the pocket, when he sees extra men coming up that way, he has to slide immediately. If they bring 3 on 3, odds are one of their guys is going to slip past one of our guys, sure it would be nice to have a brick wall up there, but you can’t count on your interior holding up 1 on 1.

Ryan has to see that and get outside and find a throwing lane. He does not have to sprint, but he does have to slide and be decisive. He can’t stand there and go through progressions, he has to find a lane and get to the hot receiver.

I will say this, in the NO game, you could see the stress on Mattys face on the sidelines. He was sacked once and hit 5 other times, that is not a lot, and although he was under duress, so was DB.

Arno

December 3rd, 2012
3:14 pm

Michal– trying to understand your concerns about M Smith’s style of motivation. Twice I’ve heard Smith tell the guys to have fun playing the game. One of the reasons they were high on Weatherspoon, was his all out vocal energy– which other teams felt could be a distraction. On the other hand, he put Dom Davis as the backup QB, a quiet, businesslike guy. So I don’t think Smith is a one size fits all, clipboard type of coach. Maybe I’m not reading you right…

Chop Buster

December 3rd, 2012
3:17 pm

Wabe – “The pressure up the middle has hindered Ryan’s ability to find his guys. Koetter has yet to show he knows how to exploit these A-gap blitzes and calm any pass rush down.”

This is what concerns me most. Even though Koetter was not her last year we struggled protecting the A gap and we’re having trouble with it again this year. I swear it feels like we carry the majority of issues from season to season with no solution. The DL and OL have had the same pressure and protection issues since Smitty and TD’s arrival. I wonder if they will ever get the trenches fixed. It causes issues on both sides of the ball as we’ve witnessed.

Chop Buster

December 3rd, 2012
3:19 pm

Wabe, additionally I don’t see Koetter doing anything to counter the jail break pressures up the middle as well.

Chop Buster

December 3rd, 2012
3:23 pm

MB – “Ryan has to see that and get outside and find a throwing lane. He does not have to sprint, but he does have to slide and be decisive. He can’t stand there and go through progressions, he has to find a lane and get to the hot receiver.”

How is Ryan going to slide when defenders are blowing through both A gaps up the middle? He has pressure on top of him before he can complete his drop back completely. We probably need to keep Ryan in shotgun the majority of time for extra time to get rid of the ball.

Chop Buster

December 3rd, 2012
3:26 pm

I’m listening to Smitty’s coaches show on 790 right now and I almost fell outta my chair. He said that they wanted to keep their foot on the pedal to keep scoring, but it didn’t work out that way for them. I don’t want to say the man is full of it, but I’ve yet to see the team keep their foot down for four full quarters. They’ve let up as early as the 3rd quarter at times.

D3

December 3rd, 2012
3:47 pm

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1) Simple Egg Toss – overall thoughts on beating the hated Saints on Thursday Night Football?

2) Is that one of the best Falcons defensive performances in franchise history?

3) Will the defense carry the torch in the playoffs, instead of the offense?

4) What in Hades happened to the offense?

5) Emerging trend (getting figured out) or just one bad night?

6) Thoughts on the running game vs. the Saints

7) Will this team ever fully click this season or postseason?

8.) Anything left to say about offensive line?

9) Is Ryan a rhythmic passer?

10) Thoughts on Chris Owens superb performance?

11) Will the Falcons ever find a killer instinct in 2012?

12) How good does it feel to be 2012 NFC South Champs?

Matty Bicep

December 3rd, 2012
3:58 pm

How is Ryan going to slide when defenders are blowing through both A gaps up the middle? He has pressure on top of him before he can complete his drop back completely. We probably need to keep Ryan in shotgun the majority of time for extra time to get rid of the ball.

It is not like people are coming in untouched every down, he was sacked 1 time this past game, and touched 6. It is not panic time. The biggest impact was he did not get separation and people were in his face. I agree the shot gun, or get outside when he sees it coming, and getting a lane to the hot receiver. That goes back to route planning, is HD being used correctly, or just does not have MR2s confidence.

Big Lou

December 3rd, 2012
4:01 pm

“How is Ryan going to slide when defenders are blowing through both A gaps up the middle? He has pressure on top of him before he can complete his drop back completely. We probably need to keep Ryan in shotgun the majority of time for extra time to get rid of the ball. ”

Ding ding ding. Hence why my name was shotgun. Only time Ryan should be under center is if we are going for a play action pass or fatty Turner for a power run play. 80 percent of the other plays should be out of the shotgun. To negate the pass rushers, you do delayed handoffs(sort of read option), or counter with screens. That’s how Peyton usually runs his offense and would work better for a cerebral/non athletic QB like Ryan.

Big Lou

December 3rd, 2012
4:04 pm

“It is not like people are coming in untouched every down, he was sacked 1 time this past game, and touched 6. It is not panic time.”

Sacks and hits only tell half the story. If you cannot step up in the pocket half the game, you’re gonna have issues finding open receivers. They should run some bootleg options, though. Ryan is usually very accurate when those plays are called up.

JB Falcon

December 3rd, 2012
4:04 pm

12) How good does it feel to be 2012 NFC South Champs? Darn Good! I just ordered 4 shirts and two hats but am saving my money for some better ones. Hint, hint.

Big Ray

December 3rd, 2012
4:19 pm

Ryan has to get out of the pocket, when he sees extra men coming up that way, he has to slide immediately. If they bring 3 on 3, odds are one of their guys is going to slip past one of our guys, sure it would be nice to have a brick wall up there, but you can’t count on your interior holding up 1 on 1.

Ryan is not that kind of QB. His athleticism doesn’t lend towards a lot of “out of pocket” movement. And if he DID start doing that, what do you suppose would happen?

I’m thinking MORE QB hits, MORE sacks, and MORE interceptions.

The last two sentences sum up part of the team’s issues. We have trouble winning one-on-one matchups in the trenches. That is unacceptable. We have NO standout guys on the OL, and therefore everybody is “helping” somebody else…which means they aren’t getting their own job done half the time.

As far as our A gap issues go…this should come as no surprise. For the 11 millionth time, this is what comes of having the exact same damn starting OL as you did the year before, when it was clear even to the team owner that this was a problem. I like Pat Hill (I guess), but he can’t play on the field. Apparently, you just can’t coach “talent”.

Big Ray

December 3rd, 2012
4:22 pm

Sacks and hits only tell half the story. If you cannot step up in the pocket half the game, you’re gonna have issues finding open receivers. They should run some bootleg options, though. Ryan is usually very accurate when those plays are called up.

That’s the truth.

Planned bootlegs are fine with Ryan. He does have to watch out for the ambitious LB or DB however, as they follow his eyes. But expecting him to slide out of the pocket on every other play or however many are necessary is asking for trouble.

If it was such a good idea, then I wonder why Belichick doesn’t have Tom Brady doing it…or John Fox with Peyton Manning? There’s a reason…

Zoomie

December 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm

“1) Simple Egg Toss” – Are you making fun of the airport egging? Do you realize that was a federal crime? That guy should do real prison time. This is just about what the rest of the world would expect from a Falcons fan.

“2) Is that one of the best Falcons defensive performances in franchise history?” You’re kidding, right? That game had nothing to do with the Falcons’ defensive performance. Drew Brees just blew the game. He owns the Falcons and the Saints own the division and y’all know it. Breesus said!

“3) Will the defense carry the torch in the playoffs, instead of the offense?” Doesn’t matter. The Falcons will be one and done AGAIN! The Falcons are not a playoff caliber team.

“4) What in Hades happened to the offense?” They just played the way they usually do against the Saints. They know who their Daddy is . . .

“5) Emerging trend (getting figured out) or just one bad night?” True nature of the Atlanta Falcons on national display.

“6) Thoughts on the running game vs. the Saints” What running game? So, the Dirty Birds got lucky a few times in the beginning. Once the Saints defense made adjustments, they shut down the Michelin Man and the Quizzard of Oz.

“7) Will this team ever fully click this season or postseason?” (SEE ANSWER 3)

“8.) Anything left to say about offensive line?” Yeah: y’all should trying getting one! HA HA!

“9) Is Ryan a rhythmic passer?” What the he77 is that? He should pass the way Drew Brees does, then he might win a few games against the Saints instead of just getting lucky when Drew has a bad night.

“10) Thoughts on Chris Owens superb performance?” If Drew hadn’t had such a bad night, ya’ll would be calling him “Crispy” Owens.

“11) Will the Falcons ever find a killer instinct in 2012?” Haven’t had one for 46 years, what makes you think they’ll find one this year?

“12) How good does it feel to be 2012 NFC South Champs?” Saints own the division. We know and they know it. Breesus said!

Disclaimer: I’ve been spending time with a family member who just came back from an extensive visit to New Orleans (I know, I know — I’m trying to get him disinherited . . .). The opinions I expressed here may have been influenced by, and in some cases actually quoted from, New Orleans Saints fans following Thursday Night’s game. Of course, I had to clean up the language — and it took a while to translate to intelligible grammar.

Ken Stricklan

December 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm

PADDYO-I don’t know why you would lose any faith in Koetter. If you think back to the time shortly after he was hired, it was said about 80% of last yrs play book would be retained. That means he could only include about 20% of what he wanted to run. I say he’s done one helluva job of taking 80% of what basically failed last yr and making it work.

The only thing that’s held this OFF back this yr has been the inconsistency of our OL.

JB Falcon

December 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm

Damm Zoomie! April 1st done gone man. Breesus said! :)

Big Lou

December 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm

Big Ray

It’s not an option you run all the time. I prefer shotgun. It’s just a wildcard move they could use when they are running the power I under center. I totally agree that Ryan is not meant to be a RG3.

Paddy O

December 3rd, 2012
5:25 pm

wings – that is the difference between Nolan and Welcome Back – Nolan – who I do think takes base defenses for teams he has NOT seen before (say, 1st half of 1st NO game this year) from Smitty, then makes accurate adjustments – who has utilized the players we had with really only a single change from last year (Asante – very nice pick up!!). I just don’t see Welcome Back playing to our strengths, nor attacking our opponents’ weaknesses.

Paddy O

December 3rd, 2012
5:39 pm

Ken – here we’ll have to disagree. I don’t think the old playbook had much in it for mitigating pass protection failures between the guards – at least we never really did much for it during the MM era; so, it would be nice if Welcome Back has some plays designed for when the guard to guard segment of the line is playing “ole” ala spanish bullfighter (Reynolds did a great job of this last year). Heck, take Mike Johnson and Hawley and play them as our RB’s if that is what it takes to stop up the leaky middle of the line. I’ve seen plenty of “stupid cute” plays from Welcome Back – if he has the inclination and time to throw those wasted efforts in, he has plenty of time to game plan – how long ago was the first Carolina game, where these tendencies/failure began to be exploited? I was NOT high on Welcome Back when we hired him – his track record good? NO. So, for me, we hired a guy with a sketchy resume, and we are now reaping the results. This is at least 3 games (of 12 that would be?) where our game planning was so lousy our offense was self-castrated. Nothing to be proud or to pad a resume desperate for that padding. And remember, NO defense stinks AND we had just seen them. Nolan can create whole new defensive looks for an unsuspecting offense. Welcome Back seems to be resting on his limited laurels – or, is it lack of innovation and creativity?

Paddy O

December 3rd, 2012
5:44 pm

So, what to do with Ryan if the O line is leaking like a sieve? React to broken O line play or design plays to mitigate that bad play? It is fairly easy to stop pressure off the outside out of the tackles – you have more time and can slide the RB’s or as indicated, use Johnson/Hawley TE R US approach. Blowing up the guards makes it much tougher – I’d say the play has to be designed to get the ball out of Ryans hands quick – such as a blind toss up toward JJ. This was the first game where JJ was really quiet without having a contributing injury. I’d like to see the film and find out whether he was shut down, or it was our line getting blowup prematurely.

John Waynesworld

December 3rd, 2012
6:02 pm

Good points, D3.

1) Overall thoughts on beating the hated Saints on Thursday Night Football? Sweet and sour. It’s good to beat the Saints and shut down Brees but we should have been up a lot more than 17-0 and we gave them hope, which made the game harder than it should have been.

2) Is that one of the best Falcons defensive performances in franchise history? It’s probably one of the best this year, but I would put our effort against the Raiders a few years ago as better. To be truthful, Brees made some pretty poor throws.

3) Will the defense carry the torch in the playoffs, instead of the offense? I think you are right on this one, D3. Our offense doesn’t really look any more potent, except for an occasional throw deep to Julio, than it was last year or in 2010. There is just a less conservative play caller and giving Matt more no-huddle control.

4) What in Hades happened to the offense? The offensive line is who we thought they were. I think they shot their collective wads on the opening drive. They are not a rush O line.

5) Emerging trend (getting figured out) or just one bad night? Trend all the way. We are a pass-first offense that uses the run to mix it up. This offensive line is not geared to make a yard, but it can make 7 yards, no problem. Our line seems better built for a fast-paced passing attack.

6) Thoughts on the running game vs. the Saints…Non-existent after the first series. Occasional spurts, but very disappointing.

7) Will this team ever fully click this season or postseason? In January I think this team will start out fast, score a touchdown or two, play defense like maniacs, and hang on, as usual, to give us our first playoff win in a long time. From there I think our confidence will explode.

8.) Anything left to say about offensive line? Where’s the beef?

9) Is Ryan a rhythmic passer? All I know is every time he gets back to pass, Ryan counts to 5 and knows he’s out of time in the pocket.

10) Thoughts on Chris Owens superb performance? 1) Chris had a career game and helped his team win that game. 2) It was sheer luck that no ref threw a flag on that pass to Moore.

11) Will the Falcons ever find a killer instinct in 2012? Not until our offensive line can push the LOS one yard when it’s supposed to.

12) How good does it feel to be 2012 NFC South Champs? It feels GREAT!

Chop Buster

December 3rd, 2012
6:24 pm

Big Lou (4:04) – “Sacks and hits only tell half the story. If you cannot step up in the pocket half the game, you’re gonna have issues finding open receivers.”

Exactly. This is why Matt’s throws were off target during the games he couldn’t step up in the pocket. They showed a play during the Saints game with Matt off balance throwing off his back foot–of course the ball went no where near the receiver.

Chop Buster

December 3rd, 2012
6:28 pm

BR (4:22) – “If it was such a good idea, then I wonder why Belichick doesn’t have Tom Brady doing it…or John Fox with Peyton Manning? There’s a reason…”

This goes back to our original issue…we’ve put band-aids on the OL and didn’t build the way we should have. It’s time to get a monster in the middle and an athletic LT with a little nastiness to him. Brady has success throwing because his line gives him the time. Remember when the Patriots had issues with its OL and Brady was getting tagged left and right. They’ve made it a priority to get it fixed.

falcons_in_the_house

December 3rd, 2012
6:31 pm

This game changed into the Defensive game after Falcons quickly jumped 14-0… We couldn’t covert the 1st down but we made Brees to make bonehead decision…. that’s the difference…

Zoomie

December 3rd, 2012
7:25 pm

I’m gonna give a nod here to a message I believe Big Ray has tried to convey: it’s difficult for an offense to transition in one season from a conservative, possession-type offense, to an aggressive, run-n-gun-type offense. There’s gotta be some serious growing pains involved.

JB Falcon

December 3rd, 2012
7:32 pm

I think we’re all in agreement that our OL needs to be jacked up and another one placed under it.
That’s my way of saying the whole OL is as holey as swiss cheese, BUT, they are the OL line we have. TD & Co made this decision to go with them in order to improve on other areas they deemed needed it most. Given the picks we had in the draft, the FA’s available, etc. is like walking into Walmart with twenty gifts to get but with only enough money to buy ten. We elected to buy ten “quality and nice” gifts that would last rather than buy twenty crappy gifts that would be worn out and ineffective next year. This OL will have to do for this year and we will buy the other ten presents next year. So, if we win a playoff game or two, or Heaven forbid, win the SB this year, supplement the team next year, we will have proven that we made the right decisions this year.
When our beloved NO neighbors won the SB the played slip shod all season long, but the kept winning, and I figured some team, come playoff time, is going to slap them in the face. We all know how that turned out.
Our team is what it is, pimples and all, but every team has some. We have one thing a lot of the teams don’t have and I have waited a long time for it. We have “swagger and attitude.” You’d be surprised how far that can take a team.

falcon21

December 3rd, 2012
7:34 pm

We are 6th in the NFL including defensive scores in scoring, thats a little over 26 points per game. A little lower than I thought we would be averaging. We are giving up a little over 19 points per game on average on defense, thats is about what I expected. All in all not bad but if we had a decent o-line we would be averaging 30+.

falcon21

December 3rd, 2012
7:45 pm

Before tonights game we are 6th, my bad.

Matty Bicep

December 3rd, 2012
8:22 pm

I totally agree that Ryan is not meant to be a RG3.

That is why they are coming up the middle. He just has to recognize that, and exploit it. He does not have to sprint out, hell, trapping 4-5 in the middle of the field is beautiful, Ryan just hat to have the play to check into, and do it.

Crashing the A gap and playing tampa 2 is how Rex Ryan beat Brady in the playoffs a few years back, he took advantage of Bradys immobility. Ryan can roll out, he just has to recognize it, and go to the slot.

The Time is NOW

December 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm

Thanks for the great read, D3!

Ken Stricklan

December 3rd, 2012
8:58 pm

PADDY O-I guess we have to agree to disagree. I’m certain you can see that MTurner has been using the same basic plays that were used in the past. I’m also certain you can see how our 3rd down efficiency and passing efficiency, as well as YAC, has vastly improved under Koetter.

If you were expecting Koetter to work miracles using last yrs OL, approximately 80% of the same plays, with the same HC sticking his GRUBBY HANDS IN THE MIX, then I see why you’re disappointed. I choose to be more realistic and will give him credit for improving our overall OFF, considering what he’s been given to work with in just one OFF season.

JB Falcon

December 3rd, 2012
9:09 pm

KS, count me in!

WR

December 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm

Hello cage, as usual its been awhile, I miss being able to post as I use to but when I can I will try to take advantage of it. D3, probably late, but hope you get well soon if you have not already done so. As for the Falcons, and this probably will sound crazy, but I like where they are at as far as their play not their record ( of course I like the record). But as far as the play, I have the same concerns as many, but those concerns may be a good think. to continue

Matty Bicep

December 3rd, 2012
9:25 pm

I am with you KS, but it is funny how Nolan does not suffer the same fate as Koetter in that he seems to have autonomy.

Sure, you can blame Smitty, but at the end of day, Koetter has to have the gonads to tell Smitty to EFF OFF and be the OC. Smitty ain’t gonna fire him, he will have no choice but to respect him, especially if he delivers like Nolan has. BUT, as an OC, the guy is 11-1, so he has that going for him.

WR

December 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm

Flashback to 2 years ago, a 13-3 Falcons team enters the playoffs as the number one seed only to get blown out at home by the Packers. What happened, as many should recall, that team had been playing its best ball, then got beat by the Saints leading into the playoffs, they showed little focus in that lost because it appeared they had they mind set they could just turn it on again in the playoffs, which didn’t quite happen.

This team has dealt with up and down play all year, they have learned to dig down deep when they have needed to which will help come playoff time. Also, this team is know where near peaking or playing its best ball, there has been flashes but they haven’t put it all together and they know it. I’m sure some will disagree but 2 years ago, that team maximized all its talent in the regular season to go 13-3, that team had to show everything to do so. This team on the other hand has only shown glimpses of whats its truly capable of. So the concern is will they be able to turn it on in the dance, I my opinion they have beat quality opponents, even when the media says they have not, and they have beat them with subpar play. If the new coordinators and Smitty can help them really turn it on in the playoffs, I think we as Falcons fans will be pleased with the results. In 2 weeks the Falcons will play probably the most notorious NFL team there is at turning it on around playoff time, they will learn win or lose from playing the Giants, and they will be the better for it.

Slant Pattern

December 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm

“Welcome Back seems to be resting on his limited laurels – or, is it lack of innovation and creativity?” – Paddy O

It is a good question and one we have been trying to figure out for awhile now. My first concern with the Koetter hiring was he was gonna repeat his Jax. performance from last year and call non-stop runs up the middle. He hasn’t quite done that, at least not as bad as I feared. My next concern arose from watching highlights of his games thru ASU and Jax. He has a varied offense but his plays look the same from more than a decade ago. He seems to have not “grown” or expanded his repertoire so much. He became HC/OC at ASU so no one to learn from and then OC with a defensive HC at Jax…once more no one to learn from. He has made adjustments albeit they seem to come 2-3 games after the fact, nothing like Nolan who can implement them mid game. Some he has not made at all and I would be lying if I didn’t find that concerning.
There is a alot of talk of the no huddle lately. This is a pretty good article ( http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Evolution-of-no-huddle-offense-Tom-Brady-Peyton-Manning-impact-091912 ) on the history, tactics, and deployment of the no huddle. Some of the things said around here get raised as points on match up advantages, I found it a good read ( Falcons actually get credit for their defense against Manning finally).

Matty Bicep

December 3rd, 2012
10:06 pm

I think WR hit the nail on the head. Sure we have not seen the no huddle, but we have not seen much of the amoeba D we saw against the Broncos. Why? because we have not need to, just that simple. At some point you just got to respect 11-1 and realize we did it by not digging too deep in the playbook.

WR

December 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm

Matt Bicep, that’s what I was trying to say. Teams that win the Superbowl are usually the ones who are peaking at the right time. 2 years ago the Falcons just peaked to early, it is what it is. But looking at them now, it might sound like I’m being a homer but really can you game plan for them if they fully utilize their weapons offensively. For all the talk about the Texans, outside of their running game, Andre Johnson and a great D, you can game plan for them. The Falcons don’t have a great defense, but they do have a good defense. The Falcons OL definitely is still a work in progress, but they have the skill position players with the right calls to take pressure off the OL and minimize their shortcomings. I mentioned the Giants earlier, which is a team that sums up overcoming with coaching. The Giants DL pretty much can be considered household names, yeah, their that good. But name someone in their secondary, name an LB not a former Falcon in Boley. What does it mean, no matter how strong a unit or so a team has, its still a team sport, when a team can turn it on at the right time they win the SB, and thats after a hard fought battle with another team that turned it on at the right time. The Falcons are 11-1, they haven’t turned it on since about week 5 or 6 but they have continued to win. Its not as if that ability has disappeared, its still the idea that they just haven’t put it all together yet.

DHunt

December 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm

1) Simple Egg Toss – overall thoughts on beating the hated Saints on Thursday Night Football?
It’s a good day when we beat the Saints by 1, 10, or 50. It’s an even better day when you do it by shutting down Breesus.

2) Is that one of the best Falcons defensive performances in franchise history?
Make no doubt about it, the Falcons defense did that to Brees. Didn’t rack up a lot of sacks but got enough pressure. And most impressively, the coverage was great all night. Brees is used to having wide open receivers and he saw Falcons jerseys in his gunsights all night on Thursday. When the Falcons play defense like that, they can stop anyone.

3) Will the defense carry the torch in the playoffs, instead of the offense?
It’s borderline hilarious that a defense that most (even the diehards in here) thought would be the weakest link, has been by far the most consistent aspect of the Falcons winning efforts this year. This defense is playing at a high level, and I don’t expect that to change.

4) What in Hades happened to the offense?
The offense shot itself in the foot repeatedly. No better way to describe it. When the blocking was decent the passes were off. When the passes were on the balls were dropped. When the running got good, the running disappeared. Trying to pin that performance on any one factor is an exercise in futility, much like the offense for most of the night. But there’s a lot of pride on that side of the ball, and I’d be willing to bet, they don’t come out flat like that again anytime soon.

5) Emerging trend (getting figured out) or just one bad night?
One bad night, that seemed to swallow the whole offense. I saw Roddy, Julio, and Tony drop passes almost in succession. I saw Ryan with happy feet hopping around and almost getting himself sacked. The O-Line seemed confused at times. Great game for a wake up call.

6) Thoughts on the running game vs. the Saints
Watching that first series, I saw what I’ve been hoping for all season. Pulling guards and tackles, counter plays, cutback lanes. Running backs waiting for the play to develop and then hitting it hard. That’s the running game we should have every week. Who needs a power running game? Especially one as powerless as the Falcons have been all season. Still not going to get one yard up the middle when it counts, but I’d lay odds on getting Quizz to the edge whenever it was needed.

7) Will this team ever fully click this season or postseason?
Green Bay and NYG were literally fighting for their playoff lives, having to play the best ball they could possibly play to get into the post season, and the Falcons (along with several other teams) were unlucky enough to catch that on the chin. The Falcons have played well enough to win every game, and have shown a never say die attitude for an entire season. That’s got to count for something.

8.) Anything left to say about offensive line?
Nope. And I won’t have anything to say for the rest of the season, as long as they keep playing well enough to not cause us to lose a game. Just don’t have a repeat of that Carolina game, and I will consider that a job well done.

9) Is Ryan a rhythmic passer?
Don’t exactly know what that is. Ryan has had some head scratching bad games, and then come back out at the end to go 6 for 7 for a game winning drive. Where’s all that rhythm coming from? It’s almost as if he needs the pressure to perform. Hopefully the pressure of the playoffs will bring out the best in him, because his best is more than good enough.

10) Thoughts on Chris Owens superb performance?
About time. Now let’s see him sustain it for two more games while Asante’s shoulder reconnects to his backbone.

11) Will the Falcons ever find a killer instinct in 2012?
They have found the killer instinct 11 out of 12 games. That cannot be overstated. When you see how hard teams battle back from adversity, it should be a tribute to the Falcons that they have always found that way to win. Will they start blowing teams out? Ask yourself this. Didn’t everyone expect the Falcons to average 30 points a game this season? Wasn’t that because everyone saw all the talent and potential that this offense brings to the table? What’s changed? In my humble opinion, nothing much. This team still has the potential to run up a 30 spot on anyone in the league.

12) How good does it feel to be 2012 NFC South Champs?
Outstanding! But it would feel so much better to hoist that Lombardi Trophy this year. And all the talk coming out of the Falcons camp is that they are on a mission to do just that.

falcon21

December 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm

We are lucky to be 11-1, just plain lucky, we could be 9-3 or worse with ease. Same as the 13-3 season, we had a lot of luck . Luck will not help us in the playoffs, the teams we will are too good, we have seen it before. If we go into the playoffs playing like we are , we will be one and done. I don’t like it but it is a fact. Later!

falcon21

December 3rd, 2012
10:40 pm

The teams we will face

Matty Bicep

December 3rd, 2012
10:43 pm

Fully agree WR. I don’t think they “hold back”, or play possum, but they game plan to win, not game plan to prove a point, as much as we want to see it.

Coop

December 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm

If playoffs were today, the Seahawks go to Pack and Bears go to Giants. I think I’d have to take Pack and Giants… Meaning we host the Giants and Niners host the Pack…

So I’ll be real curious to see how we play in two weeks against NYG.

I’d prefer the Bears out of all the match ups, but don’t see it.

Matty Bicep

December 3rd, 2012
11:10 pm

Funny, winning a playoff game sometimes is luck, just in who you draw. I like playing the Bears, or the Pack. We don’t match up well on the oline with the Seahawks or 9ers.

But regardless, Ryan is going to have to learn how to make plays with hands in his face.

uga_b

December 3rd, 2012
11:26 pm

D3, I am about to go read another one of your wonderful posts. Just wanted to say hi to my fellow Cagers. So happy with my Falcons this year; they win; ESPN talks about the Jets; I smile.

DHunt

December 3rd, 2012
11:50 pm

The Redskins were an up and coming team, until the Falcons beat them. Then all of a sudden they were garbage. The Giants were supposedly the best team in the NFC, even thought the Falcons had the better record. The Giants beat Green Bay, and became the odds on favorites to win the NFC.

But wait! Whatever will the talking heads do now. The garbage Redskins just beat the Giants and held them to one touchdown. So now the Redskins are at .500, and by the time the Falcons get to to play the Giants, they may only be at .500. So I guess the Falcons still won’t get any credit for winning that game, since the Giants evidently aren’t that good after all.

So who will the talking knuckleheads pick as the best team in the NFC this week? Pretty sure it won’t be the Falcons, but they are running out of other options, aren’t they?

Wabe

December 3rd, 2012
11:50 pm

Playoff picture’s getting mightyyy interesting…

The media heads won’t ever own up to it, but the Giants are by no means a lock to get into the postseason.

The Giants have to play the Saints next week and then have Atlanta the week after that. They’re being pushed right now by both the Cowboys and Skins. That division race is up for grabs despite the Giants having a one-game lead.

Say whatever you want about me, but I’m rooting for the Saints next week. I’d love to see those Giants miss the playoffs.

tyler

December 3rd, 2012
11:52 pm

What’s up cage. Wow 11-1 baby. I understand some of the criticism and overall fear of failure coming from some of you guys, but I also feel a lot of it is unjustified. But hey, just listen to any of the national media and all they want to talk about is how the Falcons can’t get it done when it counts.

I’m a huge Falcon fan and pay close attention to this team, as I’m sure many of you do. However, I love Coach Smith, and give him much more credit than many of you do. I saw a new one today from Michael, he decided to blame the fact that the Falcons got away from the run because of Mike Smith. Now I’ve heard it all. LOL.

IMHO, the Falcon team that was 13-3 and lost to the Packers at home, was nowhere close to as good as the Falcons are today. Many of the same players are here, but a few years ago those players were young and inexperienced. This year, those same players are in the prime of their careers. I’m speaking most specifically about Ryan, Moore, Decoud, Nicholaus, Clabo, Baker, White (the guy just keeps getting better), Beirman, Owens, Robinson, and Spoon.

These guys are ready to win it all, they got what it takes, and I think it’s gonna happen.

waynester

December 3rd, 2012
11:57 pm

HCMS knows that this final quarter of the season is of paramount importance. Everything HAS to start clicking together approaching a hoped-for playoff run or it’ll fizzle. CAR got after us in that first game and we need to return the favor. They’re going to be under a lot of pressure with their coach likely to be unemployed within the month and having just been beaten by KC in a real emotional game. I’ve got to believe that our guys are taking this one very seriously starting off the final quarter with a big win and improved execution….

Slant Pattern

December 4th, 2012
12:00 am

“Say whatever you want about me, but I’m rooting for the Saints next week. I’d love to see those Giants miss the playoffs.” – Wabe

Conventional wisdom says hope for a tie between the two as rooting for either is a major foul, however this might be the one case where rooting for the Taints to win is ok. If the Taints win they just lose draft seeding which means their win is actually a loss and by beating the Vagiants we get the chance to possibly put a huge dagger in their playoff hopes.
Watching the Skins outcoach the Vagiants makes what we are dealing with all the more frustrating however. Coughlin stuck to full retard Smittyball against a team they passed on with ease. Maybe Smitty isn’t alone in the “stuck in the past” bin. The Skins showed how a team can power-run by using deception as much as force, a lesson that after 5 years our coaching staff still hasn’t truly learned.

DHunt

December 4th, 2012
12:02 am

Coop, if you look at the ESPN playoff machine, there’s a decent chance the Giants won’t even make it to the postseason. Redskins have a much easier schedule to close it out. If you use the power rankings as the assumption for the winner of the next four weeks, the Skins take the East, and that’s with the Ravens beating the Skins at Washington, which I find hard to believe now that Suggs is back on the injured reserve.

And all this bull crap about the Falcons wins being lucky has got to cease! I guess the Giants would win, but they aren’t lucky? I guess the Texans didn’t get lucky and beat the Lions on Thanksgiving? You can say almost any game every Sunday boiled down to luck (I know that Indy game yesterday certainly did in more ways than one). If it wasn’t for luck (the bad kind) Detroit might have a winning record. BUT THEY DON’T!!!!

And therein lies the idiocy and cognitive dissonance that rears it’s ugly head whenever some people are confronted with the Falcons record. It’s only “luck” when it applies to the Falcons? Get the f*ck out of here with that.

Big Ray

December 4th, 2012
2:31 am

Big Lou ,

No misunderstandings, I understood what you were saying…I was referring to someone else’s assertion in regard to Ryan running around.

Chop Buster ,

Totally agree. I’m tired of us saying things like “we go as far as Ryan takes us” and then watching him run for his life half the time. Either you fix the damn problem or you don’t.

We need to fix it. I think we have some workable prospects in Konz and hopefully Holmes. On top of that, I’d keep Clabo. I know things won’t work out this way, but if you ask me, every other position is up for grabs. McClure, Baker, Clabo…all three get replaced in my fantasy world…

Bottom Line – we need a couple of studs. A couple of stars. Just two. Three is better, but it’s rare. But we do need two guys that could push for or make the Pro Bowl. The rest need merely be “solid.”

BobbyDawg

December 4th, 2012
6:20 am

A man running around gets in trouble. Leave MR2 in the pocket where he belongs. He has been pretty much injury free up untill now and running around back there invites injuries. We need to fix the oline so Ryan can do his job. GO FALCONS

Chop Buster

December 4th, 2012
6:39 am

BR – “Bottom Line – we need a couple of studs. A couple of stars. Just two. Three is better, but it’s rare. But we do need two guys that could push for or make the Pro Bowl. The rest need merely be “solid.””

Totally agree. We need to protect Ryan at all costs. The difference in his play when protected is like night and day. Additionally, if we can get one or two on the DL that can get pressure up the middle then we would solidify us when we play in our base defense. That would open so many doors for Nolan to get more exotic defensive attacks.

Chop Buster

December 4th, 2012
6:40 am

“it” would solidify us

The Time is NOW

December 4th, 2012
10:03 am

Tyler (11:52 pm) – I enjoyed your post.

Isn’t the NFC East getting interesting? Recent history says whoever wins the Falcons’ first playoff game represents the NFC in the Super Bowl. I agree with whoever said (maybe Chop Buster) they expect the first playoff game to be a typical Falcons game from this season: early lead and hang on for dear life. If the Falcons win such a game, I agree that the boost to their confidence could unleash the true potential of this team. This is what I hope for and expect.

Chop Buster

December 4th, 2012
10:23 am

The Time is Now, no it wasn’t me that said it. Even though I’d like to hope we don’t go into the playoffs with the same mindset as the regular season (that was Mularkey). Smitty said they want to keep the pedal to the metal, keep scoring, and not lose any of our remaining games. This came from his Mike Smith show on 790 the Zone yesterday. I’ll take the Missouri view on Smitty’s comments–Show Me!!!

Arno

December 4th, 2012
11:01 am

9) Is Ryan a rhythmic passer? There is every reason to respect Ryan’s courage and determination. I think his trust is a bit shaken. That first sack was an ugly wrap, twist, body slam. There was one a couple of weeks ago where the grass logo got printed on his helmet. He has the courage, but maybe not the confidence in available time. Many have commented on him pressing and not seeing all his progressions. I think it effects his fakes, too. Cam and RGIII torment even the cameramen with their option fakes– not saying Ryan could ever do that. But compare how smooth Schaub, Eli, and Brady are on their fakes. Better fakes might slow down that pass rush. In addition to the more quickly developing plays that people are suggesting here, the fakes are something Matt could improve on right now– before the hoped for upgrades in O line personnel. You know everybody will be gunning for him the rest of the way.

Paddy O

December 4th, 2012
11:09 am

You can pretend luck is not in existence, but Brees playing like crapola was lucky. Plus, our offense was horrible. When the Saints kicker muffed that kick a couple years ago, that was some super luck.

Paddy O

December 4th, 2012
11:11 am

I remember a SF game where the CB intercepts – game over, but gets stupid and luckily RW strips him and Dahl falls on the ball.

Matty Bicep

December 4th, 2012
11:26 am

The thing about luck is it evens out. You say it is “luck” when Brees plays bad, but it is just “bad luck” when MR2 plays bad?

Really, the larger the sample (16 games) luck evens out, in shorter series (playoffs), luck carries a much larger impact….You think the Giants 07 SB helmet catch was not luck?

Matty Bicep

December 4th, 2012
11:28 am

I remember a SF game where the CB intercepts – game over, but gets stupid and luckily RW strips him and Dahl falls on the ball.

Well, SF screwed up, random luck would say that we would also do something similar to lose a game, but we did not.

Again, over time luck evens out, maybe Smitty is just the benefactor of 40 years of BAD falcon luck, lol.

JJ

December 4th, 2012
1:05 pm

From Thomas Casale at FantasySharks:

“From The Feeding Frenzy – Week 14 Trade Bait
Dec 4, 2012

Sell

Jacquizz Rodgers, RB, Atlanta – OK, I’m finally giving up on Rodgers. It took until Week 14 but it’s over. Mike Smith won. I lost.
I honestly thought at some point Rodgers would start getting more touches, and we got to a point where Rodgers and Michael Turner were splitting touches, but Smith is just one of those coaches who thinks he has to run the ball to win. That’s why the Falcons will lose their first playoff game again this year. I don’t care what their record is – you can go and mark that down right now. I still think Rodgers can be a bigger part of the Falcons offense but it’s just not going to happen while Turner is around.”

Dont agree with his playoff prediction of course, just wanted to show that other non falcon fans have seen the same from Smitty.

Zoomie

December 4th, 2012
1:18 pm

” That’s why the Falcons will lose their first playoff game again this year. I don’t care what their record is – you can go and mark that down right now.”

Make sure Arthur’s got this cat’s number, since he seems to know exactly what it takes to win a playoff game.

Hell . . . why should the Falcons even show up for the playoffs? Thomas from some organization that seems to feature marine predators as strippers has guaranteed a loss. We should just give it up, because this dude’s credibility seems unimpeachable.

Zoomie

December 4th, 2012
1:38 pm

Now that my “Falcons 2012 NFC South Champions” commemorative plaque, that I bought to nail to my brother-in-law’s face, has arrived, I’m ready to start putting the Falcons-Aints game aside and start looking forward to our next opponent.

Cam had a solid game in their loss to the Chiefs. It appears to me, he’s playing better football. The Carolina Kittens would love nothing more than to share the contents of their 2012 litterbox and hand the Falcons another loss. They believe they can do it, too.

In the last game, thy seemed to know every route the Falcons’ WRs run, and they choked ‘em off. As a result, MR2 pretty much froze in the pocket and got nailed — repeatedly. The kitties played the Birds tough last time and the Falcons really lucked into a win. How do you think the Falcons O will play differently this time?

I don’t know if I even want to speculate on the Falcons’ defense. If I was the Panthers’ OC game-planning for the Falcons, I’d be quaking in my boots knowing Mike Nolan has 12 games of tape on me, and — oh yeah — we already played them once this year. He saw the NFC South Division carnage that was unleashed in the Georgia Dome Thursday night. Plus, Nolan has three extra days to game plan for the Central Carolina Calicos. Could get ugly!

Gotta watch that Steve Smith guy, though . . .

D3

December 4th, 2012
1:55 pm

Greetings Cage Family! — Finally starting to come out of the woods a little bit. Nasty little sinus infection, but gradually feeling better and ready to talk some Birds…….

New Hope vs. Years Past

There is a little divide I think in all of us right about now. We want to firmly believe that we have turned a corner and all these close, nail-biting wins will pay dividends for us in the playoffs. But as Falcons fans, we can’t easily just assume that it will translate into playoff success just because it should, especially given our recent 0-3 mark. The best way to say it is cautiously optimistic, which is cliche, but it really is true for most of us.

The defense IS markedly better and there’s simply no denying that. Matt Ryan IS doing better than he has in the pas in terms of yards and QB rating, but not necessarily in touchdowns and interceptions. Is the offense “that” much better? Yeah, at times, but surely not always.

Another factor is this, there’s only one other team not losing some real headscratchers out there. The Giants, 49ers, Packers, and Bears have ALL lost some serious headscratchers to some bad teams (watch me saying that we now lose to the Kitties). The point I guess is that we’re winning and we’re not playing our best football yet. I’m not worried in the least about our D, but I am starting to worry about our offense.

JJ

December 4th, 2012
2:30 pm

D3, IMHO, it all comes down to OL, particularly in pass blocking. Im very happy with 13-1 and the turnaround TD/CS has made with this franchise. Love my falcons more than anything but just dont think we have the personnel on the OL to go very deep in the post season. It’s the major flaw TD has made with this team.

Big Ray

December 4th, 2012
2:46 pm

The thing about luck is it evens out. You say it is “luck” when Brees plays bad, but it is just “bad luck” when MR2 plays bad?

True. Can’t have it both ways. Luck factors in, but does not explain all. Luck has more to do with guys staying healthy than it does actual performance.

If Brees throwing five…actually six…INTS is lucky, then we cannot criticize Ryan for throwing picks in a game. It’s just plain “luck”….and I know nobody is gonna buy THAT one…

Big Ray

December 4th, 2012
2:48 pm

D3 – agreed. The offense worries me. The defense does not.

Wings

December 4th, 2012
3:25 pm

And what about that guy named Andrew Luck. Where does he fit in?

Paddy O

December 4th, 2012
3:56 pm

RG3 is improving with every breath he takes – but, I saw him again take a vicious legal hit. If he keeps sticking his nose out there like that, eventually somebody will take it off permanently. But, Skins look very good on both sides of the ball – our comeback against them is looking better and better. We do have a habit of making improving teams look bad while playing us. I hope this trend continues.

Paddy O

December 4th, 2012
4:01 pm

MB – i’d agree that helmet catch in the 07 Giants SB win was pure luck – plus, Manning escaping the grasp to avoid the sack; we don’t give up bad dumb plays – it is the heart of what beneficial character Mike Smith DOES bring to the Falcons. Mike is stability and consistency and avoidance of stupidity – bad penalties. That ethos does bring long term benefits. We are much better than last year. This team is now designed to make it into the playoffs. Question is though – how many playoff games do we win??

D3

December 4th, 2012
4:05 pm

RE: Offense

I’m not in panic mode just yet, but I’m getting their regarding the offense. We just have not looked in sync for a whole game in a long while on offense. I know that Ryan has had career days here and there and some drives have been a thing of beauty, but this offense hasn’t looked spectacular since we traveled up to Philly and utterly dominated that game. We stumbled against the Cowboys (a little understandable vs. a good D), played good against the Saints but that final series sticks in my mind, looked terrible vs. the Cardinals, did OK vs. the Bucs, and looked pitiful against the Saints. Once again, before you jump off the top rope at me, Ryan has had some career days in there, but the point totals haven’t been out of this world either (except for the first Saints game, which we lost).

Maybe it really is simple as just a weak OL and everything goes from there. We all said that if our OL looked the exact same than we’re in trouble and sure enough………..there you go. Since we’ve been talking about the OL forever now, I’ve changed my mind and saying we should just go with the best available G or T. Honestly, I think taking a guard and plugging him in next to Konz at C and either Clabo or Sam Baker at RT should significantly upgrade our OL. Still believe that Holmes should be our starting LT next year and let Clabo and Baker battle it out for RT starting spot.

As our buddy SP has let us know with great analysis, much of this is on Koetter himself. He may not be Malarkey, but he’s no wunderkind either. It baffles me how an offense with so much talent can so easily get bottled up and look downright pitiful. JJ, Roddy, TG, HD, Quizz, Snelling, etc. etc. I do understand the conversion thing and I truly do think we’re still missing a dynamic back and we’re still giving Turner plenty of his carries, but I digress. Some of it may be Ryan. All I know is that we’ve seen glimpses of greatness, but no consistency. And the least productive on offense has been lately. Gotta get that fixed.

Paddy O

December 4th, 2012
4:53 pm

Oddly, Brees typically throws at least one gawd awful interception against us – I suspect he want to beat us just as badly as we wish to beat him – and, terminating his consecutive TD toss streak is sweet revenge. Most recognize sports team windows – Brees’ with the saints may be ending – but, the key there is Payton. I thought Ryan’s 5 interception game was bad luck – he was snake bit THAT game – but, we were victorious – it does lead a certain crediblity to the perception that the 2012 Falcons are tenacious. Key for me on Ryan’s bad play and my loss of confidence in Welcome BAck – comfort and familiarity. NO has a good coaching staff at picking up team tendencies. Last year against Seattle, we were painfully predictable. My hope was Kotter would be a smart enough coach to detect his own and decoy the opposition. The way NO shut us down EXCEPT where we surprisingly started off the game running off tackle – indicates that Kotter is not as sharp as I hoped he would be. If we play the Giants a 2nd time this year, that could be our achilles heal – it is what happened in the 2nd GB game where we got whooped bad. Our offense needs to be more complex and dynamic. At this point it is not – some are arguing that we have not peaked under Welcome BAck – I hope they are right, but at this point don’t have that confidence. We apparently did little innovative in the game plan past that 1st possession run orgy; and failed AGAIN to address unexpected, and un addresses as the game developed; push from the middle. If I’m our playoff opponent, I’m intending to push that issue with us.

Paddy O

December 4th, 2012
4:59 pm

Mike Mularkey ought to send the Falcons offense a gigantic Christmas Bonus for making him look like a good coach, and helping him land the J’ville job. IMHO, we excelled inspite of his self-imposed shortcomings. BVG just stunk.

Geo

December 4th, 2012
5:04 pm

Seems to me that Koetter was doing a good job for the first half of the season. Under his direction, we were transitioning into an explosive, pass-oriented offense, with passes (and sometimes runs) to Quizz taking the place of Turner pounding the rock to ice the game. The line was pass blocking better than at any time during Ryan’s tenure, and he responded with MVP type play. Then apparently Smitty decided we needed get back to old school power running with Turner, and the offense has been out of sync ever since. The line can’t seem to pass block anymore, but can now open some running lanes. If we could do both reasonably well, and mix our plays intelligently (actually try to fool the defense), we would be unstoppable.

I think mixing Turner in late in the game with a lead, when the defense is tired and would want no part of the bowling ball with a head of steam, would be the best way to use him, but I would use Quizz and Snelling for the majority of snaps.

Birdman

December 4th, 2012
5:52 pm

Good evening Cage

D3

That is exactly what I was saying in my post the other day. When I said I hope they go ahead and get the no 1 seed and home field adv . This offence just does not have the fire they had at the beginning of the season . A couple of weeks off for some of them to go back and focus on what is wrong .

Yes this means not play the last game . Hit the books and films and practice . I know some of you don’t think its wise to get out of the roll . But I do . I myself have played Sports in my younger and older years . And it worked for me. It has also worked for some of the Kids I have coached in the past. Maybe not Football . But I think its all the same as an athlete. Anyway that,s how I feel

GO FALCONS !!!!

tyler

December 4th, 2012
6:26 pm

Good evening Cage. I was talking to my buddy during the NO’s game and got to thinking about the Falcons interceptions. I’m sure most of us remember the Nolan quote before the season started regarding his philosophy on sacking the QB. Something like he would “rather have 12 guys with 1 sack than 1 guy with 12 sacks”.

Well, this same philosophy seems to be taking shape on interceptions by the Atlanta team. I havent looked it up yet, but we have got a lot of players with at least 1 INT. Me and my buddy came up with Moore, Decoud, Samuel, Spoon, Nichalaus, Babineaux, Peters, McClain, Beirman ( we think) , and Robinson. That’s 10 different players if I’m not missing anyone. Did Abraham have one, or Owens? I think this has got to be getting close to some kind of record. Say what we will about the defensive weakpoints but we definately have some playmakers, and a DC who knows how to get them in position.

Birdman

December 4th, 2012
6:29 pm

Maybe we are all thinking its going back to Smitty Ball . Maybe they are not Showing us all there tricks just yet. I will say this tho until its all said and done none of us really know . 11 and 1 is pretty good if you ask me.. I am concerned for the playoffs tho The Birds have not blown a team out the way we may want them to. But no team has blown out the Falcons ether

Wabe

December 4th, 2012
6:43 pm

So, I’m assuming most everybody is comfortable with the Falcons letting Grimes walk this coming offseason, right?

Don’t know who wouldn’t be with the emergence of McClain and Owens showing improvement under Nolan’s system.

So now, with that money we save, do you see them dumping any money to shore up the OL? I know Baker’s been ‘alright’ this season, and we have Holmes in the waiting, but can anybody see us going after a guy like Jake Long? He’d be pricey, but he’d shore up that LT spot for us, allow us to play Holmes at RT, and possibly move Clabo inside and Konz to C.

Possible? Or am I just dreaming?

Matty Bicep

December 4th, 2012
6:45 pm

Our O line is mediocre, we don’t have a pile pushing RB, our playcalling can be lackluster at times, and Ryan has some cracks in his armor. It is whack a mole, that is life in the NFL.

On the plus side, we have an opportunistic D, and we also our special teams are pretty good (was I the only one holding my breath every time Sproles fielded a punt), and that alone can propel a little 3 game winning streak.

But really, the Giants crushed the 49ers and Packers, they got beat by the Redskins, whom we handled with ease. So, Lombardi here we come!

Unca' Bob

December 4th, 2012
6:46 pm

D3

December 4th, 2012
4:05 pm
RE: Offense,

I’ve watched, for the most part, the same games as you have and I still come away with a different feel than you. Make no mistake, I could be very wrong here, but, I feel everything vanilla is brought forth with a reason. A lack of exposure if you will. Come playoff time I see the Falcons to open up the entire can of whoop-fanny. Look for it!

Matty Bicep

December 4th, 2012
6:49 pm

can anybody see us going after a guy like Jake Long?

Really, our OL issues can be traced back to the JJ trade, not that it was a bad trade, but it is not without consequence. JL would be good, but are there any mauling guards available? LTs like Jake are gonna cost a lot. Our tackle play has been meh, but if Holmes is half of what the cage has built him up to be, we should be OK at tackle I would think.

JB Falcon

December 4th, 2012
6:49 pm

BM 5:52, the rest or not rest thing is indeed a question. Seems like the last time we got home field and a bye week MS gave the team a week off to sit on their butts. Your idea sounds better to me. After all, those guys a getting paid dearly to bust their tails. Having a hurt body part shouldn’t keep you from watching film, light practice, etc. I don’t know if that’s agreeing with you or not but we’ve already tried taking a week off and that didn’t work out so well.

Birdman

December 4th, 2012
6:55 pm

I remember that JB . But this is not the same team we had then ether ?

Birdman

December 4th, 2012
6:56 pm

Might I add Ryan was not as mature then also

Matty Bicep

December 4th, 2012
6:57 pm

Really, if we had Nolan as our DC, chances are we beat the Cards, and who knows. I also doubt the debacle at the Dome ever happens.

I think the moment I thought this team was really built different is when we played NO the 1st time, and NO had the ball up 28-17 and I thought DB was gonna put us away. But we held and should have won that game too….But NO got lucky.

Unca' Bob

December 4th, 2012
7:06 pm

Birdman,

No sir , it’s not the same team. We picked up Samuel, lost Lofton and Weems, and I miss Weems. Just a thought…

JB Falcon

December 4th, 2012
7:21 pm

UB, I never thought I’d say it but, I too, miss Weems. He was far better than “statue boy” and did serve the purpose of a receiver every now and then.

JJ

December 4th, 2012
7:22 pm

Unca’Bob,
My younger brother from another mother…happy holidays buddy.

2- Congrats on making the SarahB playoffs (myself included) and were pitted against each other this week…good luck and my team never lives up to the projections…so its anyones game!

3- You believe our lack of offense to hiding plays for the playoffs???
Im sorry buddy, but that makes no sense after going 1-13(on 3rd downs) last thursday.

If AND A BIG FUKKIN F, we ever get to the elite offenses like the patriots, we need to work on our offense 24-7

Our Offense is not elite, its good with need improvement!!!!!

JJ

December 4th, 2012
7:26 pm

blog monster—blows as always…

JJ

December 4th, 2012
7:28 pm

its for u – ub, sorry 1 handed

Unca' Bob

December 4th, 2012
7:45 pm

JJ,

I’m sure it was about FFL and how you were going to do mean and ugly things to me and mine. I gave you one, the time is now. Bawby.

Unca' Bob

December 4th, 2012
7:58 pm

JB Falcon,

Ever so often I check the stats on Weems and it doesn’t look good for him. I thought we used him in a much better manner than the Bears have. They seem to feel they have it all with their own ST’s and it makes me wonder why they even signed him.

JJ

December 4th, 2012
8:01 pm

lol, wrong my friend. Youll see if D3 releases it, quite the opposite but I do love to smack but after leading the league in pts for AND AGAINST…Im a tad apprehensive my friend. Was just going to say good luck to the both of us!!!

JJ

December 4th, 2012
8:06 pm

Revoir Unca’Bob.

Unca' Bob

December 4th, 2012
8:09 pm

JJ,

I’m good with good luck.

Unca' Bob

December 4th, 2012
8:13 pm

Once again, I hear my pillow calling my name. Ya’ll have a great evening and above all, be safe.

JB Falcon

December 4th, 2012
8:18 pm

UB, yeah, but those TD returns were exciting!! Franks needs to grow a pair.

Birdman

December 4th, 2012
8:27 pm

Enter your comments here

JJ

December 4th, 2012
8:33 pm

UB, If I lose to anyone, it would be my honor for you to win it all!
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Unfortunatley wont happen…your a speedbumb my friend,,,yowzza!!!

Still luv ya buddy but this is the SarahB trophy were talkin about!!!

Birdman

December 4th, 2012
8:59 pm

Unca ‘ Bob

We also had Jenkins’ Norwood who stayed injured and Brooking to name a few . But we have a much better team now than we had then . Not to mention the new OC and DC we have. And I also miss Weems . We also had a lot of Cagers that are not in here any more .Some I miss also .

This Team has changed a lot . I myself have changed a lot thank God. These were just my thoughts on what I think the Falcons should do . I have always loved what you ‘ JB’ SW and others have had to say . Sleep well brother . And God Bless you

JB Falcon

December 4th, 2012
9:23 pm

BM, ain’t no way I am doubting your “optimism”. That’s my middle name! We were simply talking about Weems. This is a new team and we are better than we were, and Brooking was no loss. There are a ot of players I wish we still had but I think Claude Humphrey is getting a little long on the tooth, just like a lot of us fans.
I truly think that this team is absolutely the best team that the Falcons have ever presented for the playoffs.

JJ

December 4th, 2012
9:30 pm

UB, were cool my friend as always!!!

falcon21

December 4th, 2012
9:32 pm

JB, I just hope we play well on both sides of the ball Sunday so maybe we won’t have to depend on another Cam fumble to keep us in the game.

JB Falcon

December 4th, 2012
9:44 pm

21, I agree and I also think it’s about time we started to come around and start playing like we know we are capable of. I want a statement win over an inferior team to let the rest of the NFL know what we are capable of, or is it too early to start kicking some serious azz

old falc

December 4th, 2012
9:44 pm

rather an ugly win than a pretty loss Oline is geting better and no i’m not drinking some things are not always as they seem.

falcon21

December 4th, 2012
9:46 pm

The time is now JB, and totally agree!

Birdman

December 4th, 2012
9:48 pm

JB
I .know brother I totally agree.You have a blessed night man . I got to get up at 4. Headed to Acworth in the morning . Long day ahead. God bless every one here. Good night

falcon21

December 4th, 2012
9:56 pm

Birdman, you will be 15 minutes from where I work, come on up to Cartersville and say hello.

Ken Stricklan

December 4th, 2012
11:57 pm

I’m reading all of this talk about us not being innovative enough or us running the same plays. Hell, the Giants and Packers, our last 2 Superbowl winners, have been running the same doggone plays for yrs, and I haven’t seen anything so innovative about what they’ve been doing. The only thing they’ve done differently over the yrs that we haven’t is CONSISTENTLY EXCUTE.

The only innovation needed for our OFF is for our OL to start consistently and effectively excuting when pass and run blocking, period. If that doesn’t happen, I don’t give a damn how much innovation or how advanced or varied our play calling might be, IT AINT GONNA WORK.

E43

December 5th, 2012
12:56 am

I thought the Falcons were fine until they decided that the passing game was broken and they absolutely had to fix it. Maybe they were scared big bad brees would touch them. Maybe they were trying to go for the jugular and be done for the day. They were forcing a 24-0 lead and it blew up in their faces. I have been advocating commitment to the run game to fix it. I thought that they did so against the Saints and got lucky. I say lucky because the reason teams do not run on 3 consecutive plays is because defenses will sniff it out. Otherwise, I think their commitment to it lately is the reason they have been successful. I’ve always though that the falcons passing game was powerful enough to take the time to experiment stuff with that run game.

Unca' Bob

December 5th, 2012
9:48 am

Matty Bicep

December 5th, 2012
10:04 am

I am with you Ken @11:57. Since Bill Walsh designed the WC offense, there has not been much Innovation in the NFL, everything is been there done that. The trick it to do things that the other team does not prepare for, or to design mismatches, so each game has wrinkles, but leopards do not change their spots, especially leopards that win 70% of their games.

I do not believe that statement that we can win 70% of your games in the regular season over 5 years (that puts you up in the top 5 systems of all time), and yet, can’t win a single playoff game with the same system. That is bunk, we just did not play well, and ran into teams who playeing exceptional, but the goal is not to win a single playoff game anyway.

I think we are a good solid football team, and as a lifer, I can’t complain.

John Waynesworld

December 5th, 2012
10:07 am

Thanks Unca’ Bob.

Not too bad. So we get the NFC West & the AFC East, two divisions where the good are pretty good and the bad are really bad. Adding the NFC division winners from the East and North will be difficult but at least we get one at home.

That schedule looks do-able if we are going to REPEAT!

Unca' Bob

December 5th, 2012
10:54 am

John Waynesworld,

Next thing you know, we’ll want one for the thumb. LOL

Zoomie

December 5th, 2012
11:06 am

There’s been a lot of talk here about the possibility of the Falcons “playinging their cards close,” or holding something back for a playoffs run. I don’t really think that’s the case, I believe the offensive problems boil down to two things: O-line execution and first-year growing pains with a new OC with a different offensive mindset.

We have to hope for the best as far as the O-line goes, because I don’t see a change forthcoming (or really, possible). However, I’m optimistic that the right mesh of run-n-gun, ground-n-pound, and possession football will be groomed in the final quarter of the season, and we’ll start to see this offense perform more to its potential.

If you want to see a team that’s bogarting for the playoffs, look no further than SF: we all know about the great unveiling of Kapaernick. I just read where the 49ers are getting ready to activate LaMichael James. I wonder how many more “fresh” players Harbaugh will activate over the next four weeks?

Whoever faces SF in the playoffs may be facing a team whose key play-makers have less than half the wear-and-tear of the opposition, and who’ll have half the film. Interesting strategy. With a strong, running QB like Kapaernick whose avoided the nicks and dings of a full season, a fresh backfield, and a vicious defense, the 49ers would be well-positioned for a run at the SB.

You know, D3 may be right about Harbaugh . . .

D3

December 5th, 2012
11:29 am

Greetings Cage Family! —

UB — I hope so. The talent is definitely there on offense, but there’s been little consistency that I’ve seen from them. I know that they’ll be days when they run up against a good gameplan, but to get completely shut down with all the talent we have is a bit unnerving.

Just picking up on UB’s link, here’s what our schedule will look like for next year. Have to say we lucked out big time with the home and road games……

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FALCONS 2013 OPPONENTS CONFIRMED
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Dan Levak
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Opponents for 14 of the Falcons’ 16 regular season games in 2013 have been determined, with the New York Giants and Green Bay Packers the front-runners to comprise the final two slots.

Opponents for 14 of the 16 games on the 2013 Falcons’ schedule have been confirmed by the NFL.

In addition to their six games versus Carolina, New Orleans and Tampa Bay (facing each at home and on the road), the Atlanta Falcons battle at least three division winners in 2013 and twice traverse three time zones to wrangle West Coast teams.

Atlanta’s 2013 regular season schedule is comprised of the following opponents:

HOME
Carolina Panthers
New Orleans Saints
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
St. Louis Rams
Seattle Seahawks
New England Patriots
New York Jets
NFC East Champion (New York Giants currently lead division)

AWAY
Carolina Panthers
New Orleans Saints
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Arizona Cardinals
San Francisco 49ers
Buffalo Bills
Miami Dolphins
NFC North Champion (Green Bay Packers currently lead division)

Arno

December 5th, 2012
1:16 pm

What McClure thinks of MS motivational skills:
“Smitty knows this locker room,” McClure said. “He’s down here a bunch. He knows how everybody’s feeling physically. He knows when we need rest. He knows when we need to turn it on and when we need to go harder and keep the pads on in practice. He’s got a great vibe of the locker room, and I think that’s what’s making him successful as a head coach.”
http://pro32.ap.org/content/falcons-not-too-impressed-nfc-south-title

LRD

December 5th, 2012
2:29 pm

For next year.. be good to see the Patriots.. and see if the train wreck otherwise known as the jets is back on track or not.
Gotta distinct feeling we will see the Seahawks this post season….

E43

December 5th, 2012
2:35 pm

Zoomie- I think the 9ers are frauds. Alex Smith is their best chance to win it all. I’m not knocking Harbaugh and Kaepernick or anything. its just that, they had a preseason, they have been practicing for months now. There was no quarterback controversy until Smith had a concussion. We can talk about how Kaepernick stretches the field with his arm and legs all day long. But when the going gets tough, he’ll revert to his inexperienced self. The one that we saw in the preseason that couldnt snatch the job from Alex Smith. It nothing against his Kaeperniks work ethic. I just dont think he is ready to carry a team to the superbowl. Alex Smith didn’t loose that game in the playoffs. Muffed punts and drops did.

Zoomie

December 5th, 2012
3:00 pm

I don’t really know what goes through Harbaugh’s mind when he puts Kaepernick in over Smith. I agree Smith gives their team a better chance to win, even though their offense seems mediocre at times. The more I see from the west coast Harbaugh, the more I appreciate CMS.

Even though the running QB using the read-option makes me nervous, I hope the Falcons face a Kaepernick-led 49ers team in the playoffs rather than a Smith-led team. I think Nolan could handle the young dual-threat QB.

THE INFAMOUS DK

December 5th, 2012
3:09 pm

I want to see us win that first playoff game.. Then Im talking.. And if they win the Superbowl, as a long time Falcon fan…… Im probably gonna cry like a little ole baby girl. Then get on the phone with my people in NO and get to cuss’n.

D3

December 5th, 2012
3:34 pm

RE: Holding Things Back —

I’ll just have to respectfully disagree here on this one. After the Debacle in the Dome and Meltdown in the Meadowlands, I have galvanized a steel plate around my emotions regarding the “holding things back.” Yes, yes, I know that these are different coordinators, and it’s possible that Nolan will come up with some new tricks, but Koetter really hasn’t shown me that. In fact, he’s shown me the opposite. Coming out of the gate steaming, only to start sputtering as the season wears on. Surely, I might not be being objective on this one, but I just can’t see it. Also throw in the fact that we’ve looked downright lost at times and there’s not much evidence to support it. As always, I’ll be the first one to stand up and eat some serious crow if I’m wrong on this one……but I really don’t think I am.

JB Falcon

December 5th, 2012
3:49 pm

D3, I tend to agree with you and will bring some hot sauce. I think all Falcon fans have the same taste in their mouth and, based on our past playoff flops, it is deserved. On the bright side, we have pulled out some remarkable 4th qtr wins just like we are growing accustomed to. MR can play his worst game but seems to turn into unbeatable in the fourth qtr. That’s not much to base your hopes on, and I’d rather not to have to win that way, but our record shows that we can do it, if need be.
I’d “rather” go into the fourth qtr with a big enough lead to sit on. I will, however, take a squeaker.

Geo

December 5th, 2012
4:12 pm

Here’s my take on the execution versus innovation argument:

When Schiano was interviewed at half time of the Bucs-Falcons game, he said they just needed to execute on offense. I felt good about our chances when he said that, because that told me he wasn’t going to make any adjustments. Sure enough, we held them in check in the second half, and would have won by more if not for missed field goals and a missed opportunity to get 7 at the end of the first half.

It’s not that expect the Falcons to bring out trick plays (which I guess is what some are calling “innovation”), it’s just that I’d like to see an offense that has a wide variety of plays and uses them intelligently, mixing them up so the defense doesn’t know what is coming, or so that one play sets up the next. I’ve seen ATL do this, but I’ve also seen them lose that ability in big games or big game moments. It is all related to the OL as well. Nothing will work without decent blocking, but too often, it seems like the DL we face has their number, and maybe a more inspired playcall would help them get their mojo back.

All that said, I think we are working it out as we go, that we will become a formidable on offense on into the post season, and the stall in the NO game was just from having a lead and being gassed from the short week.

Arno

December 5th, 2012
4:18 pm

I have a neighbor who works with all sorts of machinery. He has a mix of tractors, dozers, and trucks. Many afternoons I can see him out there devotedly doing maintenance work, just keeping the things in good working order for when the right job happens to come up. From time to time, he will get a new piece, but mainly he works with what he has. To me, that’s Koetter– keep everything in play. Sometimes something will sputter, but you can’t fix it unless you keep running it.

Geo

December 5th, 2012
4:30 pm

Great analogy, Arno. I agree. I’m looking forward to seeing how we handle the Giants’ DL. We better play well and score some points, or the hand wringing will be off the charts, myself included.

The Time is NOW

December 5th, 2012
4:55 pm

JB Falcon (3:49) – While it frustrates me when MR plays that way, I am reminded that a QB named Montana built his reputation as a champion on 4th qtr. comebacks in big games. Maybe Matty Ice is our cariac kid…

The Time is NOW

December 5th, 2012
4:55 pm

“cardiac” – oops!

The Time is NOW

December 5th, 2012
4:59 pm

OK, that was wierd (disappearing post). Blog monster I guess.

JB Falcon – While it frustrates me when MR plays that way, I remember a QB named Montana who built is reputation as a champion with 4th qtr. comebacks in big games. Maybe Matty Ice is our cardiac kid…

The Time is NOW

December 5th, 2012
5:00 pm

Blogmonster.

snacktastic

December 5th, 2012
5:30 pm

Anyone heard the nonsense coming from Greg Hardy in Charlotte? Guy thinks their 3-9 team is better than the NFC South Champions. He sounds about as crazy as Ryan “SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS” Kalil.

L.A. Mont

December 5th, 2012
5:30 pm

The Killer Instinct in my mind IS the mentaility of the coach and the QB. Smith and Ryan are too nice at times, and don’t want to be perceived as guys that run up the score. But, you can not sit on a 14 or 17 point lead. You have to keep going. But they’ve done that for years. This year, Denver, Philly, now NO…each game we have big leads earlier and then shut it down offensively.

I hear the staff say they will keep grinding and keep the pedal to the metal. We’ll see! Going on the road against a 3-9 Carolina team is certainly a trap game before the Giants come in here. Given how Carolina outplayed us the first time, they certainly feel like they can beat us, so I expect them to come out fired up. We’ll see if the Falcons can match the defensive effort they had last week.

falcon21

December 5th, 2012
6:06 pm

L.A. you may be right about Smith and I believe you are but I think Ryan would try to put up 60 points if he was allowed to.

Slant Pattern

December 5th, 2012
6:37 pm

“It’s not that expect the Falcons to bring out trick plays (which I guess is what some are calling “innovation”), it’s just that I’d like to see an offense that has a wide variety of plays and uses them intelligently, mixing them up so the defense doesn’t know what is coming, or so that one play sets up the next. I’ve seen ATL do this, but I’ve also seen them lose that ability in big games or big game moments. It is all related to the OL as well. Nothing will work without decent blocking, but too often, it seems like the DL we face has their number, and maybe a more inspired playcall would help them get their mojo back.” – Geo

Good post and nice job recognizing what some are actually saying. Posters that use certain copout taglines repeatedly throughout the fanblogs only show they have no or limited knowledge of offensive transactions. There were quite a few on “Radio”’s or Shultz’s blog that honestly thought screen passes were “trick plays” or a gimmick call…maybe MM was a more of a blogger than we thought :) . Koetter isn’t pure fail but he has left some big question marks so far. Four games is plenty of time to experiment/ change things if he can or wants to.
Koetter runs an offense that features alot of slower developing routes which greatly exacerbate our O-line issues. Some of us wanted a Walsh style WCO OC for this reason and a few others. Koetter could expand his repertoire to include plays reflecting the time issues created by having a less than ideal O-line, or at least we can hope he is capable. His time is running out to prove it and we can only wait and watch.

Paddy O

December 5th, 2012
7:24 pm

I”m not talking about trick plays – although an occasional “exotic” as Tom Landry called ‘em – might give our players something to be giddy about. I’m talking about a dynamic play scheme where no matter how the blocking goes on a specific play – if the middle colapses – Ryan has a quick out to avoid a sack; on the plays where the blocking holds up, Ryan has multiple options to pass to. Koetter is much better than MM, but he is nothing special thus far – at least to my eyes. His possession to possession adjustments frequently appear to be negative impacts. Some of this is Smitty Ball – trying to force Turner to be successful. However, the 2nd NO games proves at least to me that we still don’t have enough playbook to bring out wrinkles not seen in the previous game. this typically bites us – if the 2nd game is in the playoffs like the GB game, it gets embarassing.

Paddy O

December 5th, 2012
7:26 pm

If the oline is systematically crummy the entire game, you have to be able to pivot the game plan to adapt to this unanticipated reality. Welcome Back does NOT have that type of in-game adjustment flexibility ability. THAT is a carryover from MM.

Birdman

December 5th, 2012
7:32 pm

Evening Cage

I hope everyone has had a good day . Mine just ended . Been up since 3.45am .

21 sorry I did not see your post sooner it would have been nice to have met you brother . Maybe next time I am up that way. Back to Hilton Head next week but will be around home the rest of this one.

Unca’Bob and D3 thanks for the Schedule . looks like a good season up and coming . I just hope we address the O line and another RB in the off season this up and coming year.

Cage ya’ll keep it coming and have a blessed night . A little reading in the word and then its off to bed for me

GO FALCONS !!!!

Coop

December 5th, 2012
7:56 pm

So if any of you read WalterFootbal.com, I made his reader hate mail list! Yay! I called him out for being a biased tard and he called me a douchebag on his website. If you follow his picks, he’s only picked ATL correctly twice out of 12 games and if he bets what he writes, he’s lost several hundred bucks.

JB Falcon

December 5th, 2012
7:58 pm

PO, I get what you’re saying about “exotic” plays but have to believe in what I’ve heard for years. There are a limited number of ways to move the football, within the rules. I think the key to offense coaching/playing is the ability to know the tendency of the other team and use the appropriate play to take advantage of it. That, and the ability to execute the play properly.

JB Falcon

December 5th, 2012
8:03 pm

Coop, post a link.

Coop

December 5th, 2012
8:59 pm

John Waynesworld

December 5th, 2012
9:27 pm

That’s hilarious, Coop.

Coop

December 5th, 2012
9:36 pm

Atlanta Falcons (11-1) – Previously: #5 – Congratulations to the Falcons, for prevailing in their must-win game. Yes, Atlanta had a must-win situation on the line despite owning a 10-1 record. That’s what Michael Irvin opined prior to the Thursday night contest.

Color me unimpressed, by the way. The Falcons needed the worst performance in Drew Brees’ career to barely beat a pedestrian 5-7 squad. They still can’t stop the run or protect the quarterback. Guys like Tony Gonzalez want their team to get respect, but we’ve seen Atlanta have success in the regular season before. Maybe it’s not totally fair, but the Falcons need to prove themselves in the playoffs. Nothing they do until then really matters.

Coop

December 5th, 2012
9:38 pm

That was his writeup in power rankings. He had us 4th behind Texans… Ok, New England… Uh… Ok? …. And…. SF????? WTF???? The same SF that just lost to STL and who benched their QB????? That’s a biased tard in my opinion

Matty Bicep

December 5th, 2012
10:12 pm

The Falcons needed the worst performance in Drew Brees’ career to barely beat a pedestrian 5-7 squad. They still can’t stop the run or protect the quarterback.

It is funny, we get no credit at all for harassing Brees into the picks. We also shut down the Hamster, so our run D is just fine. Our QB was sacked 1 time against the Saints. It is funny the perceptions people have sometimes.

SP, you mention that our pass patterns are slow developing, I don’t have a feel for that because I can’t see on TV, but I do think we have a problem with our slot. I don’t know if it is route design, HD, or Ryan, but when we have to get rid of the ball quick by pressure coming up the middle, it just seems like the slot guy outta be busy.

What are your thoughts?

E43

December 5th, 2012
10:48 pm

Nolan would demolish Kaepernick.

Big Ray

December 5th, 2012
11:24 pm

Really, our OL issues can be traced back to the JJ trade, not that it was a bad trade, but it is not without consequence.

I’d be more willing to believe that if I didn’t have the evidence of past drafts and the use of OL draft picks to make me feel borderline at best about that theory.

The only thing we can guarantee is that IF there WERE more high level OL picks that TD would have made in that same draft, they could have as easily been lost to injury issues (which affect development) their first year (like Baker and Holmes) or fastened to the bench in favor of an incumbent (like Hawley), or worse – stuck to the bench in favor of an incumbent at a less favored position (like Konz).

Seeing all that, I have to wonder what kind of OL pick would make the starting squad. It’s not like our starting OL is chock full of Pro Bowlers and/or bonafide studs who would be would be hard to wrest a job from.

Just sayin’….

When I see the same

Coop

December 5th, 2012
11:36 pm

BR – You have a valid point. However, the OL in year 5 is an indictment of the process. Whether it’s drafting, FA, player development, or injuries… Why has our OL and DL NOT significantly improved over 5 years?

QB is better. Receiving is better. LBing is better. Secondary in better. Only the lines and running is the same or worse.

Coop

December 5th, 2012
11:38 pm

The JJ trade cost us, but we did get a potential HOFer. I submit that the Spoon selection was more damaging. He’s a good to borderline pro-bowl LB. but they are rarely game changers. Urlacher, Matthews, and a couple others. That pick would have been better suited on a big DT which would make existing LBs better or OL.

BobbyDawg

December 6th, 2012
4:30 am

Losing Harvey Dahl lowered the quality of our O line considerably. He was somebody we could build on. Who have we got to build on now? I’m sure they’ll get it figured out, but the present quality of the Oline doesn’t fit in with the quality of rest of the team. GO FALCONS !

Wings

December 6th, 2012
7:07 am

Falcon21 I saw you mentioned Cartersville.

Do you ever go to Ross’s Diner for breakfast? Just a counter all around and great biscuits! It opened in 1945.

Unca' Bob

December 6th, 2012
7:23 am

Unca' Bob

December 6th, 2012
8:05 am

Wabe

December 6th, 2012
9:07 am

So Smitty said we’ll keep the pedal to the metal…

Well, now with everything essentially on the verge of being locked up, let’s see it. With little to play for in the coming weeks, how will these guys line up and play? Are they gonna take it into an other gear, or are these 11-1 Birds gonna be as good as we’ve seen.

I’ve said numerous times that it’s not necessarily the W’s and L’s throughout the course of the season. I get it, we had to lock up the division and get the best possible seed possible. Well, all of that is within reach now. But, we haven’t looked ‘playoff caliber’ in many, if not most, of our games thus far this season. When you have players on the 3-9 Carolina Panthers who have the onions to come out and say their 3-9 team is a better team than the 11-1 Falcons, it shows you that nobody’s really buying into our record. The Bucs said similar things after their loss.

Now, some folks might say those are just players who play for rivals that are just suckin on sour grapes. But, I can gaurantee there are a number of players on a lot of these teams that feel the same way. They’d love to get another shot at us. Teams like the Cardinals are probably wondering, “if only we had a QB, we would’ve beaten those guys…”. Even the Cowboys are probably thinking that had they made just a play or two more, they would’ve beaten us. Same with the Raiders. Or the Skins.

I get it, the should’ve, would’ve, could’ve game don’t cut it all the time. But, there is some merit to what they’re saying. We haven’t really played like an 11-1 team this season. We’ve come out of games with more questions than we’ve answered. We haven’t put together many complete games this season. One side of the ball is always having to pick up the slack the other side has shown. The defense having to do it more so than the offense.

If they wanna get anywhere, they’ll have to crank it up in the next month or so. Been sayin’ it over and over. Time to get it going now……..

Geo

December 6th, 2012
9:42 am

I think the Carolina game should have been our one loss and the first Saints game should have been a win. But overall, we’ve played winning football and deserve our 11-1 record. We are that good. We may not look impressive, but we are very hard to beat. I’ll take that any day. I may be in the minority, but I’m not looking for a complete game or a blowout win, although they are fine and we’ve enjoyed a few this year. (all a complete game means to me is that the other team didn’t belong on the field or just phoned it in, and that’s not the character of the NFL 90 percent of the time. A complete game is what teams invision when they go through drills without meeting the resistance of an opposition).

Still, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do crank it up. I think Coach Smith has done a good job of keeping them focused on the big picture — the long season broken up into four quarters, the goals of the post season — while also getting them to focus on every game. Heck, Smith even takes it down to focus on each play. They seem like a much more confident bunch than in years past. No more talk of being “relevant.” Smith has set the bar higher this season.

This Sunday will be interesting. Apparently, Carolina has an enormous chip on their shoulder due to Ryan’s “get the bleep off our field” comment from the sidelines that was picked up by the Fox cameras. The O line needs to have one goal and execute it: protect Matt. Can’t let him get hurt against this joke of a team that has little else to play for.

Big Ray

December 6th, 2012
9:49 am

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/12/05/atlanta-falcons-is-matt-ryan-in-a-slump/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_falcons_blog

Ok,so the Kitty Cats want some blood. They better be careful what they ask for.

My quick thoughts:

1) This is a game to get our pass protection straight. The Panthers beat up on Ryan last time, they’ll be looking to do it again, especially Mr. Johnson. What they really want to do – hurt Ryan and thereby hurt our chances at postseason success (which is exactly what would happen if Ryan isn’t healthy and ready to play when the time comes). Better get it right. F’in execute.

2) Yeah, Ryan IS in a bit of a slump. Happens to the best. It would be easier for him to just fix himself and get his head screwed on right if there weren’t other external factors. We’ve been over those ad nauseum. The final fact, however, is that Ryan will have to try and overcome any external factors and do what HE needs to do to help us win. He can ask Jay Cutler all about how that works. Cutler has similar pass protection issues (maybe worse ones), although he does have an ace RB and better play calling…

3) Continue to solidify the run defense with hard hitting and sure tackling, such as was on display against Tampa Bay. The more we do it, the better we’ll be when the postseason comes. Let’s also show that the five/six picks on Brees were not merely a bad game on his part. Oh, and whoop Cam Newton’s behind. I like it when he pouts. It’s hilarious to watch.

4) Since the Carolina Kitties will be bringing blitz every chance they get, now is a good time to work on those blitz neutralizing strategies. Such as playing out of the shotgun, draw plays with Rodgers, screen passes (with sufficient blocking, please), etc.

Big Ray

December 6th, 2012
10:05 am

Coop ,

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not touting the JJ trade as a perfect move. It wasn’t.

And you’re right – this is an indictment of the process. I think everything you mentioned as a possibility for why the OL and DL aren’t up to snuff has a part in it.

Drafting – failed there so far, though Konz and Holmes may yet change that premise, and maybe Travian Robertson will too (one hopes). Corey Peters has been the lone proven pleasant surprise, though we’ve lacked consecutive season proof of this due to injury. Kroy Biermann gets a nod, but with the advent of Mike Nolan, we are finding that perhaps he is a LB more than he is a D-Lineman. Peria Jerry – fail.

Free Agency – Fail. John Abraham is the best thing that we’ve had in free agency and Dimitroff can’t take credit for him because that acquisition was 2 years before he even became GM of this team. The Blalock re-signing – solid but kinda vanilla. The Clabo re-signing – fail. Letting Harvey Dahl go – fail. Vince Manuwai – injury fail. Ray Edwards – Epic Fail.

Development – Valdez and Bryce Harris cherry-picked from our PS. Mike Johnson was a pre-mid round pick. Got nothing out of it. He sometimes gets to play as an eligible Tackle or an extra Tackle. Beyond that, you never see him. Baker – adequate when healthy, but will never justify a first round pick. Svitek – solid signing. Joe Hawley – fail. Peter Konz – nearly a fail. Garrett Reynolds – fail. Lamar Holmes – no idea because a broken toe guaranteed the shackles of the apprenticeship program. Incidentally, the apprenticeship program has Reynolds and Johnson playing positions they did NOT play in college.

Cliff Matthews – this guy should probably have been on the field already. But maybe he’s like Biermann – really an NFL LB, not a DE. Still…with John Abraham size, why is he not on the field? Lawrence Sidbury – fail after promising performances the prior year. Can’t begin to guess at or explain this one – dude must be in witness protection or something. Jonathon Massaquoi – I can only think it’s the apprenticeship program. Is what it is.

Geo

December 6th, 2012
10:11 am

Is Matt Ryan slumping? I don’t think so. Just needs a little bit better protection.

And, according to Pete Prisco, some of the problem last Thursday night was receivers not winning their route, and a good game plan by Spagnuolo:

“Film study
1. What went wrong with the Atlanta Falcons’ high-flying pass offense last week against the Saints? Matt Ryan struggled to throw the football, but there were reasons.” The rest http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21288067/after-further-review-rookies-wilson-luck-impress-in-late-drives

Coop

December 6th, 2012
10:52 am

BR – Nice breakdown. Some of us argued for all 5 drafts under Dimitroff and TD that we needed to develop the lines. Now, I looked stupid cause I wanted Dorsey and Flacco over Ran. Ryan is clearly the better QB. But as much as I love JJ and Spoon, and even Rodgers. You can get the ball to your playmakers if the OL can’t block or open holes. And your LBs and DBs are little help if they’re trying to shed blocks from OL because our DL can’t anchor the line.

Don’t get me wrong, we have improved in some areas. But the philosophy has been to build the team from the outside in. Clearly, we are having success. But it seems like a more dangerous to live. If Ryan goes down, we are EPICALLY effed!

I do like that they drafted Konz and Holmes. But if Holmes can’t supplant Clabo or Baker next season, then I have to say, WTH? It’s like we keep drafting these guys Johnson, Jackson, Reynolds, Holmes, Sidbury, Matthews, Massaquoi and they can’t develop enough to beat out the average to sub par players.

So we can blame drafting, player development, or FA signings. Hell, through play design in there. The bottom line is that we are nearing the end of year 5 and TD and Smitty have not made our two lines significantly better than they were 5 years ago. That’s an indictment of their process.

Zoomie

December 6th, 2012
10:56 am

Yep. Like I wrote earlier: 5 bad throws by MR2, three WR drops, the rest could be attributed to good defense by the Aints.

MR2 mostly gets a pass on the bad throws; he was hurried and harassed all day. So was Brees, and he made A LOT worse throws. The WR drops happen. I think they stood out a little more in this game because they haven’t been happening much lately, plus the game was against the Aints, which always magnifies the errors in the fans’ eyes, I believe.

So, why was the NO defense so effective against the Falcons when they’ve been stnking it up against everyone else? Division foe. These two teams know each other well, plus these games are always more competetive. We’re about to see another slobberknocker. Wanna write off the Kittens ’cause of their 3-9 record? They honestly believe they’re better than the Falcons and they’re going to bring it Sunday — believe it!

I the Falcons don’t bring their A-game, they could lose.

LRD

December 6th, 2012
11:01 am

For the remainder of the season.. do whatever you can to keep Ryan healthy. Hold if you have to , trip if you have too, just keep him from being tagged… ie what happened in the last Carolina game. And if the Cats are out for some “blood” they will be trying for Ryan.

Pedal to the metal eh.. I want to see them working every game to correct the issues that have plagued us thus far.. they have corrected the defense against the running attack. our backups on our DB;s have and continue to surprise so keep building on that (with Moore having a hamstring injury now, Hope may have his chance to prove he is ready too).
But we need our O-line to be worked now.. the D side seems to be in decent shape overall and ready for post season, but our O needs to score TDs and not just FG’s when we are in the red zone.
Our D has provided turn overs lately and not enough of them have been turned into points.
Our O needs the tuning now to be prepared.
( and yes, I am the master of the obvious….)
Agent signings.. dont forget Lofa…

Paddy O

December 6th, 2012
11:14 am

actually, the O line problems stem from letting Harvey Dahl leave via FA.

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
11:50 am

Greetings Cagers!!!

I’m already hearing the commissioner…with the 32nd pick in the 2013 nfl draft the ATL Falcons select ….OLine….

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
11:50 am

Paddy O, I concur with your 11:14 post.

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
12:03 pm

So the Kitty Cats need some extra motivation as they are already getting ready to clean out their lockers and get ready for the off season.

That’s OK, whatever works for them.

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
12:06 pm

agers, in the the indomitable words of the Hon. Robert Nest Marley, I dedicate this especially for the Kitty Cats!!

Why boasteth thyself, O evil men;
Playing smart and not being clever, oh no!
I say you’re working iniquity
To achieve vanity, yeah, if a-so a-so.
But the goodness of Jah – Jah
Idureth for Iver.

If you are the big tree,
We are the small axe
Sharpened to cut you down, (well sharp)
Ready to cut you down, oh yeah!

These are the words of my master
Keep on tellin’ me – o-oh! – no weak heart shall prosper:
Oh no, they can’t! Eh.

And whosoever diggeth a pit, Lord,
Shall fall in it – shall fall in it.
Whosoever diggeth a pit
Shall bury in it – shall bury in it.

Read it and weep Carolina!!

Matty Bicep

December 6th, 2012
12:19 pm

I also concur about Dahl, I watched a good bit of the St Louis/9ers game the other day and watched Dahl battling ever play.

They held J Smith to 1 sack in 2 games,….A Smith beat them a few times, but overall, I thought St Louis OL held their own.

Matty Bicep

December 6th, 2012
12:20 pm

Carolina is a nothing game, I appreciate them at least giving us something to play for.

Arno

December 6th, 2012
1:17 pm

“It’s going to be fun for the coaches. Football in December, it can’t get any better.” — Mike Smith

fun for the coaches,,,, very interesting….

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
1:34 pm

Arno,

What do you think he means by that?

From time to time I have posted the anology of some CEO’s who are able to take a company out of the red and get them back on a respectable path of profitability. However, that same CEO may not be the one to bring said company from profyability to cutting edge and marquee status in the industry. MS may just be that CEO.

Just sayin’

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
1:35 pm

That should be “analogy”.

Arno

December 6th, 2012
1:59 pm

Nookah– Smith’s comment interested me in the context of posts here wondering whether the CS is holding something back, or whether faster developing plays could counter the gunning for Ryan/dare us to run strategies that we are seeing. Is Smith saying that the CS can’t wait to toss out some new wrinkles? Sounds like if so, then we will see the “fun” start to happen in Carolina. IMO, the black mark against MS as a CEO is that he did not do what he said was a primary goal from the start– to develop dominant trench warfare. Many, many people have already pointed that one out. If he can get that in place, then I expect to see the industry standard.

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

Arno,

Well said. My only reservation is that we did not see it in all the playoff games so far. However, I won’t sit here and say an old dog can’t learn new tricks but I am hoping a more experienced coach will realize the same plays you called in the first season (regular), cannot be the same ones called in the second (post-season). If you do not add some wrinkles you’ll be in the offseason before you planned it, plain and simple. Therein lies why I admire Sean Payton; he is the mad scientist, always willing to take a risk. Our well respected HC is the other end of the spectrum.

Don’t get me wrong there is a place for that but not in the post season.

Anyway with that said I am optimistic this year. I am hoping that the same way this team has had to learn to win, it’s the same way our HC will learn how to call plays in the post season.

Oh by the way MR2 goes for 300+ and 3 touches and no TO’s; Julio will have a huge game and our D will be stellar as Nolan has proven that when he sees you especially for the second time, he makes you always remember him.

Go Falcons!!

Go Falcons!!

LRD

December 6th, 2012
2:38 pm

Nookah, I will see you the 300yds for MR2 and raise you 65yds for Rodgers
What is the over.under on Steve Smith finally getting fed up and getting a 15 yd penalty for unsportman like conduct?? ( and what are the odds he finally goes off on Newton on the sideline??)

D3

December 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

Thursday Greetings Cage Family! — I see we’ve brought back the JJ trade with our OL discussion. Nothing like an OL discussion to give a little boost to the Cage. Some great points, and I’ll surely be putting my $0.02 in here very soon.

Just a little quick run…….

I know it’s common knowledge to say that TD was wrong in letting Dahl walk and keep Clabo, but I have to admit that I thought it was the most solid move……..at the time. If you remember, we had Blalock, Clabo, and Dahl up for free agency that year. It’s my belief now that I didn’t think we could or should keep all 3 due to the age issue. Dahl will be 32 next year and Clabo’s right behind. I know now that when TD wants to keep someone, he finds a way.

I also thought (foolishly) that someone, ANYONE could take over at RG after being developed there. I am just thoroughly wrong and heavily disappointed with Mike Johnson. I truly felt that it was a good pick since he had started that many games for Nick Saban at Alabama and had such a dominant run offense in the SEC. Hell, he broke the record for most starts by an Alabama player EVER! But I have to concede at this point that he’s a never been. If you can’t beat out Garrett Reynolds two years in a row, than your destiny has been cemented.

I’ll have a ton more to come in a little bit, and I still think that we should go best available OL in the first round and we’d be set. Holmes – LT, Blalock – LG, Konz – C, 1st rd draft pick – RG, Baker or Clabo – RT. Yeah, I’d roll with that.

JJ

December 6th, 2012
2:46 pm

***FFL***

Nookah,
Did you notice someone in our league (whos not in the playoffs) picked up 2 more qbs (now has 4, league max) heading into 1st wek of playoffs?
Not going to call out this cager cause I enjoy his post but can only think of 2 reasons. If hes worried about a tie (hes favored by 17pts) or its his startegy to block other teams from grabbing them. Namely you and I since everyone else(in the playoffs) has 2 qbs.
It’s no big deal but for someone not in the playoffs trying to effect the playoffs is well…interesting to say the least.

JJ

December 6th, 2012
3:01 pm

week, damn keyboard.

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
3:07 pm

JJ,

I did not even realize that. I’ll check as soon as I have some time. The unfortunate thing is that work keeps interferring with my Cage blogging!! Fortunately I know my priorities….hehehe!!

LRD

December 6th, 2012
3:07 pm

JJ Not I.. I left go of Carson a few weeks ago.. not letting go of my other one.. but would love to get a decent back up RB.. as who knows if Lynch will make it thru the remainder of the year…

Coop

December 6th, 2012
3:15 pm

JJ – It was me!!!!

I wasn’t trying to affect the playoffs, but I am trying to win the consolation games I have left. I tied a game that basically sealed my fate because I had less bench points than my opponent. I don’t plan on letting that happen again. If I had thought of this sooner, I would have done it then. Plus, I have for games left and decided to grab the best available players… they almost all happen to be QBs. You’re welcome to Patrick Willis, Emmanual Sanders, or Ryan Tannehill. You’ll find them in the pool I dropped. Hell, I’m willing to trade Larry Fitz and any of my QBs for a decent RB (since there haven’t been any since the draft). Either way, all the playoff teams are playing on a level field, but if you need Carson Palmer or Jake Locker to put you over the top, send me a trade requst.

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
3:16 pm

LRD, Detroit is gonna allow all that yardage? Say it ain’t Suh!! (hehehe)

I’m not sure what the over/under is but the odds on Smith going off on Sham is like odds on!!

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
3:21 pm

JJ,

“Did you notice someone in our league (whos not in the playoffs) picked up 2 more qbs (now has 4, league max) heading into 1st wek of playoffs?”

Some of those guys are good scramblers and could could pass as RB’s, so maybe that’s the reason for the depth. I’m just trying to find an explanation here, bear with me.

JJ

December 6th, 2012
3:28 pm

Coop, trade deadline was 3 weeks ago.
Those 8 in the playoffs are vying for the championship.
Those 4 not in it are vying for the top 4 picks in next yr draft.
Its no biggie and wasnt going to call you out. It just doesnt look good IMO, but it may not affect the championship anyway!

LRD

December 6th, 2012
3:33 pm

Julio only needs 69 yds this sunday to break the 1000 yd mark.. that would be sweet

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
3:38 pm

JJ,

Am I doing in FFL what the Giants did in playoffs last year, i.e. getting hot at the right time? Time will tell.

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
3:38 pm

LRD,

He’ll get 113 and 2 touches.

Nookah

December 6th, 2012
3:40 pm

JB Falcon

December 6th, 2012
3:53 pm

This, from Pat Yastinkass, is about as close as he will come to admitting that we don’t suck.

“But the more I think about the Falcons, the more I’m convinced they really are good. A team can be lucky here and there. But when at team is lucky week after week, that’s no accident. When a team repeatedly wins close games in the NFL, it’s doing something right.”

Zoomie

December 6th, 2012
3:54 pm

TG88 on Hardy: “What else is he going to say at this point? They haven’t won that many games,”

This game is gonna be either really ugly, or beautiful. Or maybe, like a beloved mutt, so ugly it’s beautiful.

Can’t wait!

JJ

December 6th, 2012
4:00 pm

Nookah, yea you could say yourgetting hot at the right time OR you can thank your lucky tars that McCoy got hurt and you landed Bryce Brown off ww, lol. You went from barely avg. 100 pts until the last 2 weeks, 130 and 159. Wow, keep your fingers crossed on McCoy, Ill be doing just the opposite, lol!!!!!
Come on back McCoy!!!!!!!
;)

JJ

December 6th, 2012
4:02 pm

Sorry for spelling, keys keep sticking…

LRD

December 6th, 2012
4:02 pm

If it is like the rest of the season it will be ugly with glimpses of beauty… but still ugly

JJ

December 6th, 2012
4:09 pm

LRD, bet you didnt expect to be a -15pt underdog as the #1 seed vs #8 seed Nookah.!

JJ

December 6th, 2012
4:12 pm

As SW says all the time, anything can happen in the big dance. Projected points mean nothing as we all know to well. Unca Bob is prob going to kick my azz.

Coop

December 6th, 2012
4:25 pm

JJ – I understand your point about 8 guys scrambling for the championship. I disagree that the rest of us are scrambling for draft positions. I’m not, I want to win. I’ve wanted to win every game. Otherwise, I’d drop all my players to FA and score zero points. I’m showing the integrity to play hard till the end.

Final two points. The players I took have been sitting there all day. I didn’t claim them days ago and block anyone. So any of the 8 of you could have out a claim in on them and they’d not have been there when I opened up FFL for the first tim ethis week.

And… if Jake Locker or Carson Palmer are the guys oyu need to win the trophy, then how the hell did you make the playoffs and I didn’t.

falcon21

December 6th, 2012
4:34 pm

Wings @ 7:07a, I eat at Ross’s often, love their breakfast. I also like 4-Way lunch on Main st. It is heartburn city but it is darn good.

Michael

December 6th, 2012
4:46 pm

Arno

I’m saying that Smith is not the kind of person who leads through motivation via understanding the variegated personalities of his players. For example, last week against New England (and in years past) there are multiple times during games when one can observe Belichick on the sidelines coaching his players while they are on the bench. I am not saying Smith has never done that, but I can’t recall one instance where he has. He is a numbers person, recording data and making notes for the Monday film sessions. Let some intern record numbers while you (Smith) get in your players faces (those who need a swift kick every now and then) and encourage and/or pump up others when needed (who can’t take the direct approach). Its about knowing which players need a hug to perform better and which need a kick to perform better. He is a good, quality coach because he does place an emphasis on metrics like penalties and other measurements that help a team succeed. But, is that not something position coaches and coordinators can best handle and micro manage, leaving Smith free to actually “coach up” his players during the games? My fear is that this is what keeps him from being a great coach, and in games where the team is either evenly matched or outmatched in terms of talent, I think he will lose every time because he is not that king of personality. This is what Coughlin had to learn and that is my point. Hope this helps. Rise up!!!

Paddy O

December 6th, 2012
4:49 pm

well, i’d be pretty disappointed if asante plays in this upcoming game. gotta say, this week flew by.

Coop

December 6th, 2012
4:53 pm

Michael – Sorry, but can’t agree. I’m not super high on Smitty becoming a great coach, but I have seen him doing what you cite above on numerous occassions. First game against the Saints comes to mind when we got a 15yard unsportsmanlike after intercepting Brees. He was on the sideline all over DRob and Asante. I saw him scold RW for doing a flip into the endzone, encourage MR2 after a bad pick, and more.

Maybe he doesn’t do it as much as Belicheck or maybe it isn’t as good, but I don’t think that’s the reason he can’t be great.

It’s because he can’t deviate from the script

JJ

December 6th, 2012
4:59 pm

Coop, Ive always liked you and 99% of your post, we disagree on Spoon. Never my intent to call you out, you did that. Also stated twice that it was no big deal, just interesting. But you responded so let me clarify my opinion, and its just an opinion.

You have 4 qbs on your team (1 starter, 3 on bench) to strengthen your bench points in case of a tie. Weve had 2/72 games end in ties, .0277 probability of a tie. So theres over a 97% that it will not end in a tie and picking up backup RB/WR and TE’s would help you greater than 4 qs.
I never said I wanted any of the qbs(I dont, riding rg3) you picked up, I said it is highly unusual in ffl for someone not in the playoffs to pick up 2 more and have 4 going in.

Dont know how long youve been playing ffl but ask anyone, anyone if they think its a little strange, fishy. Like I said, love your post but I speak my mind (unfortunatley for you guys) and carrying 4 qbs into the playoffs is wack my friend!

Arno

December 6th, 2012
5:00 pm

Michael– I’ll post this again, in case you didn’t see it.

What McClure thinks of MS motivational skills:
“Smitty knows this locker room,” McClure said. “He’s down here a bunch. He knows how everybody’s feeling physically. He knows when we need rest. He knows when we need to turn it on and when we need to go harder and keep the pads on in practice. He’s got a great vibe of the locker room, and I think that’s what’s making him successful as a head coach.”
http://pro32.ap.org/content/falcons-not-too-impressed-nfc-south-title

In any case, thanks for your explanation. I’ll be interested to look at this further…

Paddy O

December 6th, 2012
5:03 pm

I still can’t believe that the OC does not have about 2 dozen plays under headings such as” O line getting dominated, need to mitigate” or “our O line is dominating, time to mix it up to prevent predictability” etc. At least in years past, you could see our stubborness fairly easily – “keep running turner until the opponents D line gets tired”. Luckily, we don’t do stuff that singlemindedly anymore. So, we should be more successful. But, as folks have also seen, not only do 2nd games make it look like our playbook is thin, but on long layoffs – bye or typical playoff delay – we don’t seem to utilize that extra time to either do extra game planning against the opponent, or add 10 or 15 plays into the playbook – such as an exotic play or 2. another oddity with our Falcons, when was the last time we blocked a punt? You’d think even off of luck, we’d block 1 each season.

Paddy O

December 6th, 2012
5:06 pm

however you slice it, Smitty is a stabilizing force. We just need a more experience OC on the same level as Nolan on the defensive side. Welcome Back is better than MM, but that is not high praise.

Paddy O

December 6th, 2012
5:08 pm

execution of play vs. actual play scheme. Which is more likely to cause in-game problems? If we had 3rd rate players, execution is a good explanation all day long. Since we don’t, and they seem to have a VERY long period of extended excellence and come back capability, it appears execution is a weak explanation. Our key talent problem is Mike Turner and his profound lack of lateral agility, and general slowness of foot until he gets the diesel rolling down hill. I’d be disappointed if we lose any of the games other than the Giants game.

Birdman

December 6th, 2012
6:27 pm

Matty Bicep

December 6th, 2012
6:39 pm

We just need to win a football game in the playoffs, then another, than another; Smitty has the outside possibility of going down as the best coach the NFL has ever seen. Winning at a 70% clip cannot be pooh pooh aside. You don’t do that by not being able to relate to the players not being able to recognize talent, or not understanding “todays NFL”, or are unable to grow.

Really, there have been several coaches who have gotten hot and won Superbowls whom I would never classify as great, Very few can match his overall record. I think he gets there.

Big Lou

December 6th, 2012
6:40 pm

“Is Matt Ryan slumping? I don’t think so. Just needs a little bit better protection.

And, according to Pete Prisco, some of the problem last Thursday night was receivers not winning their route, and a good game plan by Spagnuolo:

“Film study
1. What went wrong with the Atlanta Falcons’ high-flying pass offense last week against the Saints? Matt Ryan struggled to throw the football, but there were reasons.” The rest http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21288067/after-further-review-rookies-wilson-luck-impress-in-late-drives

I try to explain many times that it’s the execution. I don’t know how many times I have seen HD get beat on his routes, or how the other receivers can’t seem to get open. The offensive line play is nothing new.

Could the players be fatigued from playing two tough games back to back? Could be. We should see some better numbers from the receivers and Matt Ryan on Sunday.

Big Lou

December 6th, 2012
6:42 pm

Matty Bicep

December 6th, 2012
6:43 pm

Now that said, I do believe that Smitty has to figure out how to loosen up his players, especially MR2, in big games. Really, you look at Billick, even Gruden, they won SBs only have teams fall apart. Winning, going to the playoff year in year out takes more skill than winning a SB and disappearing. Anyway, that is my opinion.

Big Lou

December 6th, 2012
6:46 pm

Adding onto that article Geo Linked:

Why the heck didn’t the Falcons keep running the ball on the two safety look?!

Also, if they are disguising coverages… why don’t they have any hard counts or use the no huddle? Sometimes the incompetence baffles me.

Matty Bicep

December 6th, 2012
6:51 pm

But Pat Y is right. In 5 years, the Falcons have won 21 times in the 4th quarter, and have NEVER blown as much as a 7 point lead. That is not accident, it ain’t luck. It is a mentally tough team that executes at money time…..

I would like to see the Falcons record when they score 1st in a game….I bet it is absurd.

Paddy O

December 6th, 2012
7:41 pm

I’d call money time the playoffs. Once we win a few games, the pretender/choker reputation will vanish. I hope it is this year.

Big Ray

December 6th, 2012
7:56 pm

What McClure thinks of MS motivational skills:
“Smitty knows this locker room,” McClure said. “He’s down here a bunch. He knows how everybody’s feeling physically. He knows when we need rest. He knows when we need to turn it on and when we need to go harder and keep the pads on in practice. He’s got a great vibe of the locker room, and I think that’s what’s making him successful as a head coach.”

Sounds very much like an absolute vote of confidence, which is great.

Also sounds like a player who is well past his prime, still gets a contract, and still gets to start.

And I know I sound cynical as hell. Sorry.

Big Ray

December 6th, 2012
7:57 pm

I would like to see the Falcons record when they score 1st in a game….I bet it is absurd.

It is, but I can’t remember what it is exactly, or here I read/heard it.

You’d think we might want to apply that idea/stat to every game, especially postseason ones.

Big Ray

December 6th, 2012
8:00 pm

Zoomie ,

It’s gonna be FUGLY against Carolina if we don’t protect Ryan, I know that .

They act like it’s a grudge match. Tampa just acts like they threw the game away. Tampa is still fighting for a playoff spot, Carolina is more dangerous because they know they can get to Ryan and they are pissed off about the video feed (which I thought was great) of Ryan kickin’ ‘em to the curb.

Protection.

That, and I want Mike Turner to blow up somebody the way he did Ray Lewis last year against Baltimore (right after Turner said he’d do exactly that, he DID exactly that).

I want somebody to rip Charles Johnson’s head off. Fuh Real.

Arno

December 6th, 2012
8:08 pm

Big Ray– I had the same feeling. Wanted a quote from some other player. For what it’s worth, here’s a quote from the enemy: Falcons head coach Mike Smith is 8-0 this season and 51-21 as Atlanta’s coach, and he appears to have earned the respect of players around the NFL, too. In a Sporting News poll of NFL players, Smith tied with Houston’s Gary Kubiak for the honor of most underrated head coach in the league.“Nobody gives them enough credit, but they’re always well prepared. He always has his guys ready to play. You can tell they’re very disciplined—not a lot of cheap stuff or anything like that.” — Eagles linebacker DeMeco Ryans said of Smith.The Sporting News polled 103 players from 27 teams and players were not allowed to name their teammates or head coach for any of their answers. Rex Ryan of the Jets was voted as the most overrated coach in the Sporting News poll

falcon21

December 6th, 2012
8:10 pm

I remember Ovie ringing Rays bell. Big Ray, good point on that stat. Didn’t we have the led in all of Smiths playoff games?

The Time is NOW

December 6th, 2012
8:24 pm

D3

December 6th, 2012
8:25 pm

From the Article that Birdman posted…………

Rodgers is only 5′6″, but he’s built like a fire hydrant. He’s only had 68 carries this season, but he’s rushed for 274 yards and a touchdown.

He obviously doesn’t look like the ideal starting running back, but if you compare him to Michael Turner at the present moment, Rodgers is the better back.

In the last three games, Rodgers has rushed for 108 yards on just 23 carries. Turner has picked up 156 yards on 40 carries. Clearly, Rodgers is doing more with less.

The roles need to be rearranged in Atlanta’s backfield. Rodgers should be the primary back; Turner should be the short-yardage back. “Burner” is too heavy for any other duty at this point. One of his thighs is the size of Rodgers’ torso.

It’s not a good look.

Brian Manzique

Wow, thank goodness someone else sees it besides us “homers.”

The Time is NOW

December 6th, 2012
8:28 pm

Arno – good stuff. Thanks!

While I was looking for the record above, I found this bio on MS. Looks interesting, but haven’t read it yet.
http://prod.www.falcons.clubs.nfl.com/team/coaches/Mike-Smith/a22e3d7e-3e0b-4143-93b8-42f545b0b0c7

The Time is NOW

December 6th, 2012
8:35 pm

Just learned that going into this season, under MS the Falcons are 36-2 when leading at halftime and 33-1 when leading at the beginning of the 4th qtr.

Slant Pattern

December 6th, 2012
9:04 pm

“Wow, thank goodness someone else sees it besides us “homers.” – D3

All one has to do is look here ( http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb ) to get the idea that someone elses’ homers are the delusional ones. Why a HC or OC would keep plugging in fail is beyond me but as those homers love to point out, what do we know?

Slant Pattern

December 6th, 2012
9:14 pm

“Didn’t we have the lead in all of Smiths playoff games?” – falcon21

Last two I believe so, not sure on Arizona game. The stats people keep bringing up leave out an important little detail in that we did not hold the lead in all those games. I don’t feel like doing the leg work but someones 22 come from behind wins make up a large portion of those stats the homers want to attribute to someone else playing turtle ball. Someone making the clutch money shots thru the goalposts should be getting his fair share of credit too. Really don’t care anymore as people will see want they want to see. If Smittyball wins a Lombardi I won’t be complaining.

falcon21

December 6th, 2012
9:40 pm

Same here SP, no complaining will come from me if that happens, hell, I will be the happiest man in Georgia if it happens. If I say what I want to say I will be told to get that f–ing crap out of here, so I will leave it at that.

The Time is NOW

December 6th, 2012
9:41 pm

This season the Falcons have gone 6-0 when leading at the half and 7-0 when leading after the 3rd qtr. Under MS the team record in those circumstances is 42-2 and 40-1. Gotta like the odds if we’re leading at those junctures.

falcon21

December 6th, 2012
9:51 pm

Some good stuff Time NOW, but it is the post season odds that worry me. We don’t have a whole lot to get excited about.

falcon21

December 6th, 2012
9:53 pm

Later Cagers.

JB Falcon

December 6th, 2012
9:59 pm

TTIN, that’s some darn good research. Should change some attitudes or expectations.

21, anyone who doesn’t appreciate your comments on this blog has to be full of sh!t. I haven’t notice whatever you have but if they are man enough to call you out I’ll have your back.

Coop

December 6th, 2012
11:18 pm

SP – we did lead in all 3 playoff games. It highlights a thread of debate I had with MB early on. He touted the number of come form behind wins by MR2. I asked him to analyze how many of those were due to us losing the lead. He didn’t want to acknowledge that part. But if you look at it, we have lead is almost ALL our games. Even the ones we’ve lost. How many times have we been beat wire to wire in the last 5 years.

Coop

December 6th, 2012
11:23 pm

JJ – I appreciate and respect all your posts except when you chastise me for going after MB. I disagree with your take on my FFL moves. I got killed this year, but I’m still fighting. There is nothing fishy. No one but you complained about missing on Palmer or Locker. Then you say you don’t want them. So since it was no big deal… You made a fairly big deal about it.

I have broken no rules. I have done nothing to question the integrity of the game (like dropping my best players so you could pick them up). So call it fishy if you want, but if you don’t want the players I selected, then let it go.

Coop

December 6th, 2012
11:29 pm

The Falcons have blown leads… Even those more than 7 points. Coming back to win doesn’t erase the Lon lead. That’s the one problem with winning, it hides your true faults and says, “you don’t need to fix that”!

Michael

December 6th, 2012
11:36 pm

Arno,

No I had not seen that particular article for whatever reason I overlooked it. But, as I read it , one other Atlanta figure immediately came to mind…Bobby Cox. He was well liked by his players and certainly had the pulse of the locker room. Unfortunately, something just didn’t translate on the field. Yes, he managed a World Series win…but how many more should they have had?

So I think it goes with Smitty. I like him and think he clearly is organized and is good at sweating the small stuff (of course I also like Dan Reeves and still think its a mistake they fired him). I just worry about Smith’s ability to “coach up” players in game situations. I hope I am very wrong. As for what you saw that I obviously missed in some games, it would have been nice to see him challenging/pushing Ryan a bit after throwing 5 Int’s against the Cards and again last week when he went 1-11 on 3rd downs.

Matty Bicep

December 6th, 2012
11:37 pm

I asked him to analyze how many of those were due to us losing the lead. He didn’t want to acknowledge that part.

I don’t not “not” want to acknowledge it, I just do not know the answer, nor do I think it is terribly relevant. See-Saw games are common in the NFL, but the winner in the 4th quarter is what it is all about…my opinion….

But I want to be clear, all the stats I put up do not mean we will not take a dump in the playoffs again this year, and if we do, I know there will be no shortage theories. But countless coaches have won in the playoffs, and probably about 35 have a ring. But the fraternity of guys who won 70% of the games in their first 5 years is very small. So, it is almost like Smitty has done the “hard” part about being a great team, but if he cracks the playoff code, we might be witnessing something special….

I don’t know the future, but I know if you can ace the NFL chess game of winning in the 4th quarter, you gotta be pretty good, and a pretty good prospect of being a guy who can figure it out, and crack the playoff code….you are far from incompetent…..Please take no offense, again, just my opinion….I have the same frustrations, but overall, I love what I see, and I like winning week in, week out.

Big Ray

December 6th, 2012
11:37 pm

If Smittyball wins a Lombardi I won’t be complaining.

Same here. And I will eat my fair share of crow. What I will NOT do is listen to any moron who claims to have known it was all good, all along. THAT I will not do.

Matty Bicep

December 6th, 2012
11:39 pm

When I say, “you are far from incompetent”, I mean Smitty, not a cage member.

Big Ray

December 6th, 2012
11:41 pm

Coop ,

One thing I like about Smitty is he is always looking to work on something, to fix something. Can’t ever fault him for that.

That said, the “how” of fixing has pretty much been the subject of discussion…

Matty Bicep

December 6th, 2012
11:45 pm

Cmon BR, I don’t get some credit? I won’t say I “knew” it would happen, but I knew we had a chance.

I guess I think more like a gambler than a coach, that is where I am different and sometimes misunderstood.

I just know that if we put every team under a microscope like we do the Falcons, I can find why everyone will lose. BUT, if there is a game to be played, I think either team has a chance. Not an equal chance, but a significant chance, even moreso in the Playoffs than the regular season. Todays NFL is quite unpredictable, and that is about the ONLY thing I am pretty certain of.

Matty Bicep

December 7th, 2012
12:00 am

But I do agree, we have some O line issues, question marks at RB, questionable play calling, D line, Peoria Jerry is a Bust, yada yada. But I like Nolan, and I think if we had Nolan all along, we might have won a playoff game or two. I think THAT is where we are different.

Slant Pattern

December 7th, 2012
12:02 am

“one other Atlanta figure immediately came to mind…Bobby Cox. He was well liked by his players and certainly had the pulse of the locker room. Unfortunately, something just didn’t translate on the field. Yes, he managed a World Series win…but how many more should they have had?” – Michael

I think thats a good analogy and the thought has crossed my mind many times. Being liked and being a good strategist are not one and the same. There are multiple aspects to being a good manager, HC, leader, general, etc. I think being “likeable”, charismatic, or whatever term one prefers is definitely an important aspect but firing your “soldiers” up just to lead them into an ambush because you didn’t study your opponent or were way to predictable isn’t exactly gonna get you compared to Mannstein or Patton.

Slant Pattern

December 7th, 2012
12:07 am

“One thing I like about Smitty is he is always looking to work on something, to fix something. Can’t ever fault him for that. ” – BR

I hear him always TALKING about fixing things. If I could see more evidence of actual fixing going on then I would feel better.

Matty Bicep

December 7th, 2012
12:18 am

Also, watched Manning tonight, I have never been more convinced that arm strength is overrated, but it looks like his arm has gotten worse, he threw lollypops all night.

Matty Bicep

December 7th, 2012
12:26 am

I hear him always TALKING about fixing things. If I could see more evidence of actual fixing going on then I would feel better.

Your pretty hard on the guy. He has fixed our Defense. Yea, I know it is Nolan, but it seems poor Smitty is damned if he does, damned if he don’t. Again, not looking for a pissing match, but sometimes hiring the right guy and getting out of the way is a good sign of a growing coach.

Matty Bicep

December 7th, 2012
12:45 am

Anyway Cagers, we got a chance, and as much as we all want a “sure thing”, it don’t exist. If anyone has ever bet on a football game….Can I get and Amen?

Wings

December 7th, 2012
6:40 am

Big Ray – “And I know I sound cynical as hell. Sorry.”

There is nothing wrong with being cynical from time to time. Those statistics are not taking the field on playoff game days and they can’t be coached up.

Big Ray

December 7th, 2012
9:01 am

Cmon BR, I don’t get some credit? I won’t say I “knew” it would happen, but I knew we had a chance.

I guess I think more like a gambler than a coach, that is where I am different and sometimes misunderstood.

Saying we have a chance and saying that you knew we would win the SB all along are two different things. Therefore, what I said does not apply to you.

Big Ray

December 7th, 2012
9:02 am

Wings – this is true…

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

December 7th, 2012
9:14 am

“One thing I like about Smitty is he is always looking to work on something, to fix something. Can’t ever fault him for that. ” – BR

I hear him always TALKING about fixing things. If I could see more evidence of actual fixing going on then I would feel better. – SP

Abstract opinions from two of our most esteem cage members. Both comments sums up Smiths tenure as the Falcons Head Coach. 99.99% of Smiths post game interviews (win or lose) he will say, just like clockwork…he needs to fix things. Hell, 3/4’s of this season has passed…and he’s still talking about fixing things.

I’d like to use a racing analogy, I hope most you can follow. I’m sure JB can relate with his racing background.

I compare Smitty’s comments on fixing things at this juncture in the season, to the Daytona 500.

Car owner takes his team down to Daytona, puts up the fastest laps in practice, sits on the pole…and the odds on favorite to win the race. Here we are, race day, time to put up, or shut up. All the crews stage their cars on the starting grid with an hour before the race begins. The fastest, pole setting car gets a final once over by its crew chief, to his unpleasant surprise, he finds an oil leak, too late to change engine, gotta run what you brought, too late to FIX the leak. Everyone knows the fastest car will not win…and the engine will probably expire sooner than later.

I’m just an admiring fan of the Falcons like most of you, but it concerns me to hear Smith saying things need to be fixed at this stage in the race. I used that analogy to compare the Falcons to the fastest car on the grid, with the 11-1 season thus far. I’m a sports fan, I like everything from nascar to back mitten…I’ve been around sports long enough to know, the most consistant, probably wins out in the end. I believe, like most, we have a verygood team, but are we the most consistant?

Paddy O

December 7th, 2012
11:19 am

coop – only game I remember where we got outclassed since MS became HC was the 2010 Eagles game. We had no answers in that game – so beating them last year and knocking Vick out was sweet, just as this years butt whoop was icing on the cake.

Paddy O

December 7th, 2012
11:24 am

heck, if smitty ends up being compared to bobby cox- – that is fine with me – the Braves – although they did have 3 cy young award winners never had a really great offense – and, they won a WS. If Smitty can get us to the championship game 50% of the time the next decade and only wins 1 SB – I’m good with that. Very, very good.

Unca' Bob

December 7th, 2012
12:05 pm

Paddy O,

One in my lifetime would instill an easy feeling of calm that I don’t have at the moment. I relish that feeling.

Coop

December 7th, 2012
12:07 pm

Paddy O – My list is a bit longer:

2008

TB 24-9
CAR 24-9

2009

NE 26-10
DAL 37-21
PHI 34-7

2010

PHI 31-17
GB 48-21

2011

CHI 30-12
NO 45-16
NYG 24-2

2012

None

JB Falcon

December 7th, 2012
12:10 pm

Somebody, good analogy about the consistency. So who won the points race this year? The most consistent team with a sterling history or a young team that no one took seriously? That’s why I too like both sports. In the sporting world, if it looks, acts, and talks like a duck, it could be a walrus!

Just got my 2012 Division Champs hat! I liked the 2010 one better, hat wise, and I still want a SB one.

Coop

December 7th, 2012
12:11 pm

Being outclassed is certainly subjective. You could argue Smitty wasn’t outclassed in every game I listed above. All those games were lost by at least 14 points, but some we were in until the final couple of minutes. You could also argue that Smitty has been outclassed in some of our wins (OAK, ARI, or CAR this year).

I’ve rarely made the arguement that Smitty was completely outclassed as a coach. He almost always has the team prepared and playing disciplined football. My issue is when that isn’t working or the other team is playing out of it’s mind, Smitty rarely responds.

so when all the percentages and risk averse game management isn’t working, what are you willing to do to WIN THE GAME? When it counts the most, what is he willing to do?

Matty Bicep

December 7th, 2012
12:31 pm

My issue is when that isn’t working or the other team is playing out of it’s mind, Smitty rarely responds.

100% agree. My number 1 knock is when we do get behind, we are slow to respond, we keep playing “Smitty Ball”, I would like to see a little urgency when we are in the process of taking a beating, which is rare.

falcon21

December 7th, 2012
1:55 pm

JB @ 9:59p, thanks man.

Arno

December 7th, 2012
2:39 pm

Smith has well earned a huge benefit of the doubt to me. Rather than say he is “clueless,” fulfills the “definition of insanity,” or makes “imbecilic” decisions– all things I’ve read on this blog, I’d rather say I’m baffled at his approach at times. One thing is clear– Smith’s style of coaching relies heavily on a healthy locker room. He thinks it will translate to the field during crunch time. A couple of quotes came in today along that line–

Coach Lewis on Robert McClain: “When he first got here, he wouldn’t say a word to anybody, and now he’s beaming with confidence. Confidence can be a fragile thing, but I truly think he has a swagger because he’s made some plays and he’s been accepted by this team, by the core players.”

“I love the unity of this locker room,” Gonzalez says. “There’s no jerks on this team. There’s no cancers on this team. Guys love to come to work, love to compete, love to get better.”

Zoomie

December 7th, 2012
3:11 pm

I think CMS’s apparent coaching style is reflective of a relatively mature team. To me, it seems he communicates his expectations and relies on the group of professional adults under his authority to get the job done. Of course, when his charges disregard his expectations and free-lance to the detriment of the team (i.e. DR23 and AS22), he’s quick to correct them in a no-nonsense way. Other than that, he seems to treat his players like adults: work hard, get with the program, become part of the team, perform, or be replaced by someone who will.

Just my observation of the human-factors element of his coaching style. That aside, there’s the numbers-crunching, statistical analysis, and techno-nerd aspect which is also pretty apparent.

falcon21

December 7th, 2012
3:24 pm

Arno, why do you think MS keeps Matt Ryan in handcuffs? Does he not trust Matt? Is he trying to say this is my team and I control it? I know when we are in the no huddle, more times than not we score. Matt sees the defense and knows what he needs to call to beat it. Mike Smith is a good coach but some of his decisions can leave you scratching your head.

Arno

December 7th, 2012
3:35 pm

Absolutely falcon21. I am truly baffled at times. It’s especially troubling to see Matt’s numbers decline. My theory — can’t prove it — is that Ryan and Smith have come to some kind of mutual agreement about tactics, the merits of which elude us fans.

Arno

December 7th, 2012
3:52 pm

–to clarify, when Koetter came on board, he was quoted as saying Ryan had a big voice in how the offence was run.

Matty Bicep

December 7th, 2012
3:53 pm

I maintain we have not seen the no huddle simply because we have not needed it. Now I know a lot of you would like to see it to bury teams when we have the lead, and so would I to be honest, but that ain’t Smittys style. We we get the lead, Smitty likes to milk the clock, rest his D, and play the clock field position game, a game he is damn good at.

Again, I don’t think he is intentionally “saving” anything for the playoff, but it never hurts to pull out un-scouted looks in a pinch.

Matty Bicep

December 7th, 2012
4:00 pm

And for those of you who think Smitty is not pretty good at strategy, I thought the NO game was a think of beauty, the way he know that NO never thought in a million years we would start with Turner, and how Smitty changed the cadence, knowing the NO had figured our snap count tendencies (and realizing who their ML is), and used all that against them and rammed it down their throat to set the tone.

I also like how we took both the run game, and the deep passing game away and made DB show patience and beat us with the intermediate stuff, and look at that result.

But, I am on board with being baffled over our inability to put them away, and neutralize their pass rush, but NO has a good game plan too in some parts, and was able to beat our receivers too.

Fact is, you win some phases, lose in others, but the W is all that matters in the end, and the lessons learned.

falcon21

December 7th, 2012
4:15 pm

Arno, I got what you said but if Ryan really has a big voice in how the offense is run, it really leaves me scratching my head.

JB Falcon

December 7th, 2012
4:34 pm

21/Arno, did ya’ll read that post from DOL concerning MR’s decrease with Koetter saying he’s not worried about it? He might not be but MR is definitely getting worse as we go. Hopefully Koetter has a plan.

The Time is NOW

December 7th, 2012
4:43 pm

Hoping the mini-bye has recharged MR for the stretch run.

Arno

December 7th, 2012
4:49 pm

JB– Did read it. Keep thinking about what MS said, that December is when coaches have “fun.” Looking forward to a bit of fun on Sunday!

The Time is NOW

December 7th, 2012
4:50 pm

Paddy-O

I would also be happy with a Bobby Cox type career for MS. Just don’t wanna be the Buffalo Bills. (Oh, the difference a mid range field goal can make.)

falcon21

December 7th, 2012
5:05 pm

Yeah I read it JB, I think Ryan is being held back and Mr.Smith has something to do with it. Koetter may have a plan but will Mr. Smith let him follow through with it?

Paddy O

December 7th, 2012
5:17 pm

it is a football historical oddity. the bills should be considered one of the finest dynasty’s the NFL has produced – 4 straight trips to the SB with a great QB and a killer defense. but, failing to win one of those games has killed them. if the Braves had not won once – they would be in the same boat – but, you win, and you pretty much walk on water – the Giants are a very good example. Look clueless through long stretched of the regular season, but to be the cinderella team twice in a 5 year period? they made their own luck – and, got lucky – playing the Patriots in the last game of the regular season in 2007 and coming very close to winning. there is such a thing as momentum and 2nd chances. Smitty needs to up his game against teams he is playing for the 2nd time of the season – in those instances, the opposition appears to do a better job game planning and tendency detecting. the 2nd Carolina & TB game will be telling.

Paddy O

December 7th, 2012
5:20 pm

personally, it would be nice in some of these next 4 games if they let ryan run the offense for an entire quarter or half. just to see how our offense performs and executes. I suspect most guys like playing with ryan. and as somebody above quoted Tony G, I think we have a very good clubhouse – where the players are expected to self motivate. which is why ray edwards got excised.

Matty Bicep

December 7th, 2012
6:15 pm

I think nothing speak to our locker room unity than Abe taking a pay cut and less cash to stay with the Falcons. He is a guy who played in a losing organization, he knows.

Matty Bicep

December 7th, 2012
6:26 pm

Also, when Abe came here, he had a rep of being a little bit of a malcontent, part diva, and injury prone. That is how we got him. Smitty devised a system for practice/play schedule to keep his groin injuries from flairing up and let him tell them what he needed. In other words, they treated him with respect, like a man, and supported him. And Abe paid them back, had he left for more cash, who knows were we would be today.

E43

December 7th, 2012
6:38 pm

Paddy O- I think you’ll see less no huddle from Ryan in the future. There’s no problem with the passing game. I actually think that they’re not using the no huddle because they don’t have a justifiable reason to do so.

Paddy O

December 7th, 2012
7:10 pm

possibly. I just think if you have say 3 consecutive 3 & outs, you might want to change the program up some. Coop – 2008 is too far away! but, I did forget the Chicago game – that was a pain in the butt game to see the results come rolling in.

Greg Mendel

December 7th, 2012
7:17 pm

God, I love the smell of Smittyphrenia in the evening!!!! :-)

Seriously, all I can say is that I’ll worry about Smitty when we start losing.

(Smittzophrenia, maybe… )

The Time is NOW

December 7th, 2012
7:57 pm

Paddy O – several good posts today IMHO.

JB Falcon

December 7th, 2012
8:02 pm

This is semi Falcon related and there’s not a darn thing that can be done about it. Didn’t mind paying twice the price for my 2010 NFC Champ hat made by Rebok. Got my 2012 NFC Champ hat today that was made in China by some company I’ve never heard of and half the quality.
Eff the fan even though if it weren’t for them there wouldn’t be an NFL.
Thanks, I feel better. :)

JB Falcon

December 7th, 2012
9:20 pm

I just sent my complaint to the Falcons store. If anyone feels the same way, here’s their e-m address.
support@officialfalconsgear.com

Big Ray

December 8th, 2012
9:11 am

Arno ,

Excellent posts. Agreed with much of what you said.

Big Ray

December 8th, 2012
9:20 am

Greg Mendel ,

You have a point – it’s not like we’re dealing with Norv Turner here.

Smitty’s record is great. He runs a tight ship and has a great locker room. I’m hoping this translates to the postseason at some point, sooner (much sooner) rather than later. We could definitely have a worse guy at the helm, but I don’t think AB is gonna put up with that. He wants this franchise to be one of the premier, well-respected ones in the League. He won’t permit anything that will make this team a joke or laughing-stock…hence the way he reacted to the things we’ve been through in recent history.

Again – Smitty has done a lot of good. But nobody gets a pass for being great in the regular season forever. Of course, this is only year 5. All will depend on how this postseason goes, how AB reacts to that, and how TD and Smitty account for themselves during the “end of the season” report.

The Time is NOW

December 8th, 2012
10:23 am

Well said, Big Ray.

DePlane

December 8th, 2012
10:25 am

I think Smitty, more than anyone, knows he has to win in the post-season to be considered successful. I think he will pull out all the stops come playoff time. He is a shrewd and calculating (very calculating) man. His success with this franchise is not “one big accident”, nor do I think it has been luck. You make your own luck…

Chop Buster

December 8th, 2012
10:39 am

From this point on we should be attacking teams on both sides of the ball for four quarters–not two and a half or three. Also the no huddle should be used as a strategy to wear down attacking defenses early. If they can get off the field and switch out players you keep going at them and don’t give them a minute to catch their breath. Too many times we see things work only to never see it again or rarely ever used again.

falcon21

December 8th, 2012
10:59 am

DePlane, even if we would have lost a couple of the games that I thought we were lucky to win we would still be in the running for home field advantage. I never said it was all luck, this is a good football team, just a hard team to figure out.

Arno

December 8th, 2012
11:40 am

From the Charlotte Observer:

Cornerback Josh Norman, who had underneath coverage on Nakamura’s side on the long, last-minute pass to White, said the Panthers were expecting Ryan to throw a shorter, sideline route to try to pick up yards and stop the clock. “That was one of those plays that you’ve got to tip your hat to them for calling it, executing it and Roddy going to get it.”

Interesting to hear the enemy commend Falcons’ unexpected play calling. Not that I have any wishful thinking that a playoff team will be as easily snookered.

Big Lou

December 8th, 2012
12:48 pm

Big Ray

Great points. It starts from the Owner on down, and we got a damn good one. AB wants a new stadium and a Superbowl title. If you don’t cut it, you become a ’sacred cow’ for the slaughter!

Big Ray

December 8th, 2012
2:19 pm

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/12/08/atlanta-falcons-jacquizz-rodgers-ready-for-his-share-of-the-load/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_falcons_blog

More, more, more, more, more. Give me more!

I thought the Turner comment was kinda funny. But then, we should expect to hear such things from a former feature back. “A little spark” my ass….

Best thing was what Ryan said – “there’s no letdown”

‘Nuff said.

Give us more.

Big Ray

December 8th, 2012
2:22 pm

Big Lou – Agreed!

Arno – it’s always good to hear that come from outside sources. Always. We need more of that, more often. I think we’ll get there, but we have to keep going after it.

Part of what will help is better OL play. Very difficult to work on that bonus room upstairs when the foundation keeps moving underneath your feet….

Big Ray

December 8th, 2012
2:30 pm

DePlane ,

There are no accidents, so we agree there. Smitty is a calculating man. I think you have to be such a guy (or have an expert Coordinator you trust in that area) to be successful as a HC. Arguably, this is just one facet of successful head coaching, just as gaining (and maintaining) the respect and trust of your players is another.

We shall see. I also recognize a few things:

1) Calculations can be wrong. And if you stick with a formula that continues not to solve a particular problem it was designed to solve…that would generally be an indication.

2) Calculations cannot ever take the place of execution, although they can be used as a contingency plan in the event of a close game when execution has repeatedly failed.

3) Calculations cannot overcome lack of talent. Think OL….

Arno

December 8th, 2012
3:35 pm

Big Ray– Your mention of a shaky foundation reminds me of a building inspector I knew. You would never know he was an inspector because all he would do is walk around the job site and talk about his last fishing trip. If he spotted a violation, he mentioned it briefly, and then it was back to fishing. So after the OL takes care of business on Sunday (hopefully), maybe the Cage can prop its feet up and talk about fishing… Lombardi fishing.

falcon21

December 8th, 2012
4:08 pm

Good comment Arno! Ou season will be decided on the play of the O-line

falcon21

December 8th, 2012
4:09 pm

Greg Mendel

December 8th, 2012
4:20 pm

Thanks, Big Ray. “Smittyphrenia” was just a joke based on various comments on Smitty. Personally, I hesitate to criticize Smitty because:

1. I’m an amateur, he’s a pro.
2. He has a good record.
3. His good points outweigh his bad (as I see them).
4. The NFL genius du jour seems to vary from jour to jour.

What I DON’T like is the term “Smittyball.”

I prefer “Smittball.” It’s shorter, more aggressive, and kind of flies off the tongue — instead of rolling off the tongue and falling down behind the line of scrimmage.

JJ

December 8th, 2012
7:24 pm

merkage43
” We need to contain Charles Johnson. He completely beasted on Clabo last game and had 3.5 sacks.”

JJ

December 8th, 2012
7:35 pm

From ESPN Insider:

Falcons-Panthers: What to watch

Panthers’ run game can’t be all Newton

By Doug Kretz

Atlanta at Carolina

When: 1:00 PM ET
Watch: FOX
Preview
More scouting reports: Week 14

Scouts Inc. Position Advantage

QB

RB

WR

OL

DL

LB

DB

ST

Coach

After watching film of both teams, Scouts Inc. breaks down key elements of the Week 14 Falcons-Panthers matchup.

• Devote maximum numbers to coverage: The Falcons managed to intercept Saints QB Drew Brees five times last week. They use a lot of nickel and dime packages while getting a solid rush from their base front four. Look for more of the same as they try to show Cam Newton a lot of different looks with different sub packages and zone schemes. Although defensive coordinator Mike Nolan is not averse to the occasional stunt, he is more likely going to want to flood the secondary with maximum numbers in coverage.

• Panthers’ RBs must produce: Through 12 games, the Panthers are led on the ground by quarterback Cam Newton, who has 524 yards rushing. That is 165 yards more than their second-leading rusher, DeAngelo Williams, with eight fewer attempts. Although it is nice to have that added dimension, the Panthers need a healthy Cam Newton and quarterbacks simply don’t have the padding or protection that other athletes play with.

• Bring back the strong ground game: The Falcons used to be one of the most dominating running teams in the NFL, but they have regressed in that department over the past few years. If they hope to get anywhere in the playoffs this year, the Falcons need to be able to run the ball effectively, especially late in games. This week should be a good opportunity to work on the ground game as the Panthers are not a particularly strong defense when it comes to stoping the run.

• Home QB: Newton is an extremely talented quarterback with rare physical dimensions and a strong arm. He is a dual threat who can move the chains with his feet as well as his arm. Since reducing his reads a couple of weeks ago, Newton has become more decisive in his approach to the game and gets the ball out more quickly.

• Away QB:Matt Ryan is a difference-maker for the Falcons but still needs to show that he can take his team past the first level of the playoffs. He is playing with a lot of confidence, and even though he might struggle during periods of games, he consistently finds a way to regroup and finish games strong. He is making good reads and is an accurate passer when he has time to set his feet and square up to his throw.

• Key positional battle — Falcons’ WRs vs. Panthers’ secondary: Atlanta is pretty much a pass-driven team at this point with their receivers accounting for 22 of their 33 touchdowns. Ryan has a big, athletic group of receivers who are good route runners and very strong to the ball when in a crowd. With just one starting defensive back topping 6 feet, the Panthers provide Atlanta with several favorable matchups in single-coverage situations.

• Featured player: Perennial All-Pro TE Tony Gonzalez is enjoying another great season as he leads the Falcons in receptions with 73. He has a great connection with Ryan and has caught the ball a remarkable 75 percent of the time he has been targeted. He is the first guy Ryan looks for when the Falcons get into the red zone or when they need the clutch catch for a first down. Gonzalez has a great sense for what yardage is needed or where the goal line is.

• Film room nuggets: Atlanta’s front four lacks power when trying to play the run. The group is not doing a very good job of maintaining gap control or squeezing the blocks down. It needs to show more discipline and better hand use to contain the run going forward. … Carolina’s secondary has become very sloppy with its open-field tackling. In last week’s loss to the Chiefs, Carolina’s DBs allowed way too many yards after first contact. … Falcons RB Michael Turner needs to run north and south more than laterally. He has been spending too much time running east and west as of late, looking for holes to develop, and that gives defenses time to pursue and make plays.

Prediction

Atlanta 26
Carolina 20

Atlanta keeps on doing just enough to win and Carolina’s secondary does not match up well with the Falcons’ receiving corps. If they can’t get their ground game going, the Panthers could be in for a long game.

falcon21

December 8th, 2012
8:02 pm

Carolina’s secondary does not match up well with the Falcon’s receiving corps, that is true, with good o-line play and the no huddle our Birds should dominate but we all know what we will see.

JJ

December 8th, 2012
8:17 pm

f21, As we all know “with good o-line play” IS our sum of all fears. They have a month, figuring a 1st rd bye, to fix it or the least conceal it. You and coop have been preaching help for the o-line for yrs now and it will come down to those guys in the playoffs. But spinning like a politician, GB and a few other playoff bound teams have o-line troubles as well. So heres to thinking positive…with all fingers and toes crossed!!!

JB Falcon

December 8th, 2012
8:28 pm

JJ, it’s hard to conceal ugly. Ya’ know the dress on a pig thing. We can hope our usgly scores one point higher than the other team on the ugly scale. Like you said, all teams have their weaknesses. If we work our way up to a game whereas we’re firing on all cylinders we will, indeed, be to hard to stop. We can’t say “pick your poison” if we know half of the needles are harmless.
Tomorrow should be a good game to try some different looks and techniques.

JJ

December 8th, 2012
8:41 pm

Problem is, the last time I recall them firing on all cylinders was a yr or 2 ago against the ravens. Theyve had some qtrs, one or two halves but nothing close to a full game or even 3/4 of firing on all cylinders.
Dont mean to be pessimissy but just hope we can get better before playoffs…theres still time!!!

falcon21

December 8th, 2012
9:11 pm

It is hard to say JJ, a Mike Smith coached team seems to stay the same, you hope they will improve but we get the same thing week after week, As I said, this is a hard team to figure out.

JB Falcon

December 8th, 2012
9:16 pm

I don’t care if we win sloppy or even lose a game or two, as long as we get in the playoffs and the losing stops. Totally stops. Sloppy or lucky is okay to get to the big game. That’s when I want the long sought after game to arrive. That’s when you don’t care if the engine blows all to he77, just as long as you cross the finish line FIRST!

falcon21

December 8th, 2012
9:16 pm

Before anyone goes crazy on me, I love that we are winning but can we do it in the playoffs?

JJ

December 8th, 2012
9:26 pm

JB, f21, We will be branded as traitors for not acknowledging the 11-1 record and falcons supremacy. On the contrary, I believe all of us fanatacis love the record and know we could easily have a much different record.
We have all the talent and coaches to at least make it to the superbowl;however,
We do not have the o-line to get us there …yet.

The Time is NOW

December 8th, 2012
9:27 pm

JB Falcon (9:16) – That’s the goal! Well said.

falcon21

December 8th, 2012
9:30 pm

The Time is NOW

December 8th, 2012
9:30 pm

JJ – I don’t see anyone on here as a traitor. I just see fans who love their team and want to see it be the best. There is honest debate about how getting to be the best should be achieved, and over how close we may or may not be to getting there, but everyone here wants to see the Falcons be the best team in the NFL.

JB Falcon

December 8th, 2012
10:22 pm

We do not have the o-line to get us there …yet. – JJ

That is true but you cannot put a measure on desire. Our OL is our weakest link and we all know that but this is a team effort. We can’t make our OL into something that it isn’t so we will have to trust the rest of the team to take up the slack. I am not willing to concede to the possibility that we will not win the Super Bowl. Lest we forget, we had the same basic OL line when we stomped the Ravens in that game you mentioned. We may have had Dahl in that game but I don’t remember.

Birdman

December 8th, 2012
11:02 pm

Evening Cage .

JB Agreed !!

We may have an awful Offensive line but I think this team when the D is playing like they did against the Saints and the play makers on the offense are on a roll they can beat any team out there. Even in the Big dance

falcon21

December 8th, 2012
11:07 pm

JB, I do not disagree with that comment. Many on here think this is the best team we have ever had, in my mind I think they may be equal to the 98 team but not even close to the 80 team. The 80 team had a better D and better O-line but had a conservative coach that lost it for us. The weapons we have on offense may be a little better than the 80 team but the killer is we still have a very conservative coach. That will hurt us along with the O-line.

falcon21

December 8th, 2012
11:23 pm

Cook the crow well done, I will be happy to eat it!!!

Birdman

December 8th, 2012
11:50 pm

21
I don;t know much about the 80 team. I was more into chasing girls and life in the fast lane then.Thank God that has changed. Around 98 is when I first started to get into this game and our Falcons but I don’t think that team was near as good as this one and I know the owner wasn’t.

Thats the main reason I mostly listen to you guys and read your comments .I am still green to the sport but yet give a lot of time to it now.

I will say this I have watched a lot of teams play this year ‘ the good ones ‘ and I just have not seen any of them have any better season and problems that the Birds have are do. Maybe not the same ones but problems none the less and I think the Falcons can play with the best of them and beat them if they are playing well .But on the other hand they could also lose to them or\
lesser teams as well when they are not running on all 8 .

Love the team and I love the sport !!!!! GO FALCONS !!!!

Matty Bicep

December 9th, 2012
1:41 am

80s team was in a different NFL, it was BC…Before Cap. It was a great team, but it was apples and oranges to todays NFL….BUT there was a similarity, we had a coach who was conservative, who got ran for reaching a “plateau” by going one and done in the playoffs in 82 after winning a playoff game in 1980….

So we fired that guy, and hired an up an coming coach with a new, fresh “scheme”…..And it was 10 years until we go to the playoffs again…Sometimes you got to be careful what you wish for.

So, if AB wants to fire Smitty if we lose in the playoffs, the our history says it will be 2022 before we ever play another playoff game.

Matty Bicep

December 9th, 2012
1:48 am

No really, we had a coach who won in 80, won in 82 during a strike year that was nutty, and they FIRED him, because you know, the Smiths wanted superbowls, championships, because that is the kinda guys they were…..and it was 10 years before we even got to the playoffs again, but we did win….A wildcard game….so, we got to round 2, where a bye gets you….But we outta be think about FIRING smitty, because anyone can win playoff games and get to the playoffs.

Matty Bicep

December 9th, 2012
2:41 am

*win regular season games.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
6:20 am

Atlanta at Carolina: I’m starting to read a lot of comparisons being made between the 2001 Patriots and the 2012 Atlanta Falcons. That New England team, similar to this Atlanta one, did not win with much flair or glamour. There were few blowouts, no huge statistical performances, and the defense was far more “bend but don’t break” than “shut every team out and win by 30.” Is Matt Ryan the next Tom Brady? Did Thomas Dimitroff finally find a way to seep what he learned in New England down the org chart in Atlanta? Is Mike Smith capable of winning a football game in January? I don’t know. But I’ll say this — if a 9-7 Giants team were to play the 15-1 Falcons in the Divisional Round this January in Atlanta, I’d probably still pick New York to win that game. I suspect I’m not alone.

The Pick: Falcons 34, Panthers 28

I hate Peter Schrager. Always throwing in a jab. Not one word about the actual matchup with the Panthers. Just a reference to last year’s playoff loss to the Giants (in a back-handed, veiled sort of way).

Thanks Pete. You suck almost enough to work for ESPN. No wait, you suck worse which is why you are where you are now…

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
6:27 am

Greg Mendell ,

Those are plenty of good reasons to be reserved with criticism. Never stopped the media, of course…

Arno – that’s a conversation I hope we have smoetime soon. To be honest, and as optimistic as I tend to be, I have never had expectations of that being this season. But one never knows. There could be a magic here that we are just not aware of because we are so conditioned to failure at some level or other. We’re a year in-year out winning team these days…but we don’t always enjoy it because the postseason allows no losses…the regular season you can lose today and come back next week…so we have a right to want/expect more. It is what it is.

But as I said before, a lot has to be going right and being done right to be where we are. It can all just go for naught if you can’t get further. But that’s why we play the games. Looking forward to putting a whoopin’ on Carolina today. We need this…

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
7:13 am

Morning Cage.

I could eat these words But I think the Falcons will win today and next week against the Giants.The Giants are one of those teams I was talking about in my last night post. Just my thoughts and like I said I could be wrong

As for as Smith goes even if the Birds don’t win there first round in the playoffs I think Smith will still have a job here next year. At least for one more year

Cagers ya’ll be Blessed on the good lords day of woship

Falcons 31 Panthers 17

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
9:19 am

You’re right about the media, Big Ray. Of course, the media have the luxury of not having to play the games.

Being a homer, I love it when the Falcons get good press, and hate it if they don’t But I’ve learned to ignore the media — mainly because the “experts” don’t have much more insight than fans. Especially when it comes to predictions. This applies to pundits of every sort. They talk a great game, but more often than not, their long-term predictions are dead wrong.

bigslow

December 9th, 2012
9:20 am

GAME DAY!!!!! RISE UP

Unca' Bob

December 9th, 2012
9:42 am

***FFL***

JJ,

Good luck to you today. You’re the defending Champion and have put together another good team this year.

He!!. On second thought, good luck to me!lol.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
10:00 am

GAME DAY.

Falcons probably won’t stand a chance against the Super Bowl XLVII Champions. Oh, wait…that was just a newspaper ad? My bad. I thought that 3-9 record looked a bit funny…

Birds roll, and that will be that. Sit down, haters.

Arno

December 9th, 2012
10:38 am

Charlotte: Scattered showers, mainly before noon. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 69. South wind 6 to 8 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

D3

December 9th, 2012
11:13 am

Great Gameday Cage Family! — Busy weekend doing holiday stuff, but ready for the Falcons to start hitting that crucial gear today vs. the Panthers. I can’t lie and say I’m not nervous about this one because this game screams trap. You the know the Panthers will come out firing, but if we can get ahead of them, they’ll give up like they usually do. Got a few things to take care of, but will be back for game time.

GO D@MN FALCONS!!!!!!!!!

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
11:48 am

They’re saying on CBS that William Moore is out and Chris Hope is in. Smart decision by the coaches, in my opinion–I think the backups will step up like they did against NO.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
11:56 am

Samuel is active, apparently. Bit of a head-scratcher.

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
11:59 am

Same here Snack, I don’t get that one, the man needs to get healthy.

The Time is NOW

December 9th, 2012
12:10 pm

That one makes no sense to me. We need Samuel as close to full speed as possible for the playoffs. I hope he gets limited action today, but what do I know?

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
12:19 pm

Chris Hope is no bum, so hopefully he will step up to the occasion.

Asante playing is unusual, but Smith is known for keeping out players of they are ailing… sometimes too long.

All I know is that of we lock home field advantage… he will have weeks to rest.

Wings

December 9th, 2012
12:45 pm

Okay Falcons and Head Coach Mike Smith, here is some advice better than “Rise UP:

Well I grew up in one of them old farm towns
Where they hit it hard till the sun goes down
Nobody really seemed to care that we were living in the middle of nowhere
We just figured that’s how it was
And everyone else was just like us
Soaking in the rain baking in the sun
Don’t quit till the job gets done

That’s the only way I know
Don’t stop till everything’s gone
Straight ahead never turn round
Don’t back up don’t back down
Full throttle wide open
You get tired you don’t show it
Dig a little deeper when you think you can’t dig no more

That’s the only way I know
That old red dirt the first thing you learn
You don’t get nothing that you don’t earn
Humble pride that I grew up on
You find out just how bad you want it
Sun in our eyes backs to the fences
Didn’t know the odds were against us
Hit the wall smoking and spinning
Still wasn’t thinking ’bout nothing but winning

That’s the only way I know
Don’t stop till everything’s gone
Straight ahead never turn round
Don’t back up don’t back down
Full throttle wide open
You get tired you don’t show it
Dig a little deeper when you think you can’t dig no more

That’s the only way I know
Maybe there’s another path that will get you there a little bit faster
But I’m sticking with the one inside of me.
That’s the only way I know

Don’t stop till everything’s gone
Straight ahead never turn round
Don’t back up don’t back down
Full throttle wide open
You get tired you don’t show it
Dig a little deeper when you think you can’t dig no more
That’s the only way I know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB_hEk4of9o
A powerful video by Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan, Eric Church

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
12:47 pm

We SHOULD beat Carolina today, and SHOULD beat them handily. Or it COULD be another nailbiter. Either way, I don’t think we’ll lose.

Over the next four games, schemes, adjustments, execution, winning or losing — none of them concern me as much as possible injuries. Particularly NEW injuries. The Falcons have done a good job (outstanding, really) of handling injuries thus far. But that’s my biggest concern going into postseason. We can wonder and theorize about how the “same” team will approach the playoffs, but a couple of serious injuries (or re-injuries) to key players are tangible disadvantages.

Injuries are unpredictable, but I sincerely hope the coaching staff does everything it can to reduce the risks. I’m being Captain No Smitt, I know, but I’m not gonna complain about conservatism if it’s intended to keep the players healthy.

With that, time for a pre-game sandwich. Go Birds!

JJ

December 9th, 2012
12:56 pm

Unca’ Bob, Tks and good luck to your raptors, going to come down to MNF! :(

JJ

December 9th, 2012
12:57 pm

Hope we smack SUPERcrybaby around today!

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
12:58 pm

All I can say is…

Thanks for the bulletin board material, Panthers.

I wouldn’t call the Falcons overrated.

JJ

December 9th, 2012
12:59 pm

Clabo needs a better game against CJ.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
12:59 pm

Morn all. Grabbing coffee and hoping we grab early lead. I look forward to one of those b&tch smack games like Jax last year. Might not happen but that Hardy guys comments deserve to have the bombs fall.

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
1:01 pm

They will be gunning for Matt today, it that is not enough to get this o-line fired up, nothing is!

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
1:02 pm

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:02 pm

Matt needs to play confident!

Hasn’t had a multi touchdown game since the first Saints game.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
1:03 pm

Panthers winning the coin toss is an omen? Okay. Sure.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:10 pm

Falcons always have a hard time stopping Cam.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:12 pm

Bad blitz by the Falcons. They ran right into the offensive line.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
1:13 pm

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:14 pm

Well, that didn’t take long. Right down the d@mn field.

So much for that mini-bye helping out.

Wings

December 9th, 2012
1:15 pm

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:16 pm

Not a good start, Panthers made that drive look pretty easy. But, let’s see how the offense looks.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:16 pm

Let’s chill out now. It’s only the first drive.

Offense hopefully responds.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:16 pm

DeCoud got torched on that TD pass. Weak blitzes for sure.

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
1:16 pm

Could not have said it better SP!

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:18 pm

Turner up the middle into the wall on first play. Ryan sacked on third play as McClure gets beat like a drum.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:18 pm

The TV coverage is so terrible now that they don’t even show the entire starting lineups. What kind of BS is that.

Ya’ll notice that Chris Hope is in for Willy Mo and Samuel isn’t starting either.

Jerry is a bust. Like ya;ll didn’t already know that.

Big boy DT or OG with first pick in draft.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:19 pm

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:19 pm

Was that a bad throw by Smith ir did we just see why Antone Smith doesn’t get to play?

Meanwhile, 3rd and Ridiculous.

Wings

December 9th, 2012
1:19 pm

Almost fainted a smith

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:20 pm

So tell me…since I missed the play. Was that a bad throw by Ryan or did we just find out why Antone Smith never gets to play?

Meanwhile, dink and dunk gets nowhere and Carolina gets a chance to build some momentum.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
1:21 pm

Pathetic. Like seeing A. Smith finally in a game tho.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:22 pm

Antione Smith wasn’t in the correct position.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:23 pm

Running out of the shotgun. A concept in Carolina, but not further south….

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:24 pm

Big Lou – thanks

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

December 9th, 2012
1:24 pm

Respectfully disagree BL, Ryan overthrew him.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:24 pm

Said it back in February and I continue to say it now. McClure should not be starting. He’s done. Sorry, but the truth hurts.

Typical slow starting Falcons.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:24 pm

Another quick slip draw play out of the shotgun….wow….it really, really works.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
1:25 pm

Is this going to be like last year’s game, where we’re flat in the first half and then turn it on in the second?

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:25 pm

Nice tackle by Dent.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:25 pm

Horrid gap discipline.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:26 pm

Snacktastic – I hope not…but it looks that way already.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:26 pm

There’s that good ol’ run defense coming back to haunt us.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:26 pm

Big Lou – yep…and not good tackling on Tolbert, either. At least initially.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:27 pm

Piss poor tackling.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:28 pm

You can disagree all you want. RB is suppose to read the QB’s position. Matt had to side arm the throw to avoid the Dline from knocking it down. He should have caught that ball.

Maybe if he had more playing time, he would make the play or be more instinctive.

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
1:28 pm

Cam with all day to throw, never seen that before. Kidding!

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
1:30 pm

Panthers look like the 2010 Falcons: long scoring drives, 3rd and 4th down conversions.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:30 pm

That just pisses me off to no end. Newton enforcing his will on us, makes us look like punks out there.

Defensive line got beat down, so did the LBs and DBs, but it always starts up front. He had an entire hole to fall through.

Disgusting.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
1:30 pm

they look lifeless out there today…

and not surprised one bit to see the same squad that sacked us 7 times the first game get after us again on our 1st drive..

.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:32 pm

Its the tackling more than anything. I counted three times the line got penetration and could have had a tackle for a loss.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:33 pm

Can you say trap game?

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:33 pm

Nice move/play by McClain. All over that one.

Arno

December 9th, 2012
1:34 pm

Asante cheers on McClain.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:34 pm

No Moore or Samuel.

Defense will suffer, but the offense has no excuse.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

December 9th, 2012
1:35 pm

BL, might as well come to grips with reality, the OL held up reasonable well on the first possesion. Ryan took a sack, held on too long…should have thrown the ball away…and he overthrew Antoine. I don’t know if he’s slumping, but he’s not playing well at all.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:35 pm

Big Lou –

we have no “finishers” at DT right now. Abe and the Bier Truck usually do good if they aren’t getting hornswaggled by some big Tackle, but our DTs just aren’t getting the “finish” done.

That is due to Peters not being healthy enough to be as effective as he was a year ago, Babs is in decline (happens at his age, especially as an undertackle), and well…Jerry is who/what he is. May as well get big Travian in there more.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
1:36 pm

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:36 pm

Somebody ,

You’re kidding, right? Ryan stepped up on that sack play. McClure got beat. And the replay showed all of our receivers tightly covered.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:36 pm

Continue to say that our main problems stem from weak DTs.

Jerry = Bust and Never Was

Peters = Not 100%

Babs = Playing End and on decline

Walker = Rotational at best

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:37 pm

There it is again – the DTs.

My God, what a horribly missed opportunity as Corey Peters epic fails his way out of a sack.

Nice play by Dent again.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:37 pm

Mike Nolan is going to rip some heads off in half time.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
1:38 pm

Even at 100%, I don’t see Peters as being a game changing DT.

He’s average to slightly above average.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:38 pm

Weatherspoon getting hyped out there. Need more of that.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:39 pm

Really Corey Peters?

Nice tackle by Dent.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:39 pm

I’m sick to my stomach right now.

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
1:39 pm

Ha’ Ha LOL this is funny its so bad

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
1:40 pm

Ass-clowns out there today. Yet again the team comes in clueless, lifeless and unprepared. Carolina came to win, we spent the extra time doing nothing of value it seems.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:40 pm

Offense = 5 plays, 9 yards.

Get ready for the “fraud” alert from the MTV Sports media if we don’t improve.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:41 pm

Well, at least the defense held.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
1:41 pm

i’m honestly not gonna flip out if they lose today…

smitty can say whatever he wants, because I’m not buying that these guys are as motivated as he wants to say they are.

we have to win 2 of our next 4 as it stands now. regardless of where they come from, we better get 2 and I’ll take it.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:41 pm

Good pressure both times, defense saves a TD on this drive.

Aside from the clearly less than 100% Peters….only Biermann and Abe look like DL keepers…and Abe is getting old (though he’s looked good this season yet again).

I won’t let Peters get away from that missed sack, though. He had a hand on Cam and no OL guy even touching him. NO EXCUSE.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
1:42 pm

Well, this is as poor a start as we’ve seen all year. Perhaps we’re just giving them false hope so we can come back and crush them?

Wings

December 9th, 2012
1:42 pm

It’s not over yet!

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:42 pm

Is this effin’ announcer (S)Cam’s homeboy or something? I mean dang dude, at least PRETEND to be objective

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:44 pm

Wabe

I agree. But, it better be a close game. I will not except blowouts by the other team!

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:46 pm

WTF are we doing running with Turner for no gain as if nothing has happened?

This is the kind of stuff that has you wondering about Smitty/Koetter.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:47 pm

Really?

That’s it?

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:49 pm

If this continues, I am going to find something better to do at half time.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:49 pm

Disgusting. Truly disgusting. And no confidence to go for it = we KNOW we’re going to get beat.

Ooops, I’m sorry. The stastical law of averages chart said we had an extremely low percentage chance of making a play, much less getting a first down. Let’s save all the risk taking for the last 5 minutes of the 4th quarter because we’re going to roper-dope ‘em Ali style for the first 3+ quarters.

Coop

December 9th, 2012
1:49 pm

Just shaking my head and laughing. Could this team be any more predictable. Turner up the middle makes Smitty a laughing stock.

Joke so far

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
1:49 pm

yeah, that’s it.

this offense is a problem.

they were a problem last week against the worst defense in the league, and they continue to be a problem.

knowing that your defense has been on the field the entire f’n game, you know you can’t go 3 and out, yet they come out and go 3 and out…

just boggles one’s mind.

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
1:50 pm

This is a “remote thrower.” Biting nails is better.

Coop

December 9th, 2012
1:50 pm

So far, Smitty being completely out classed. Team looks apathetic.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
1:51 pm

Down 10, opponent eating up the clock on offense, and it isn’t four-down territory?

I don’t get it.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:51 pm

How wasn’t that a hold?

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:51 pm

Cam Newton goes longer on that one pass than Ryan has even tried to all game.

And then does it again.

FoxSports is catching serious wood in the broadcasting booth.

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
1:51 pm

look at this throw and catch at will lol

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
1:52 pm

why don’t our birds just sit this one out

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
1:52 pm

“Is this effin’ announcer (S)Cam’s homeboy or something? I mean dang dude, at least PRETEND to be objective” – D3

Did you hear that sick bromance “Cam is a dashing Hulk like figure” rambling earlier? I keep expecting to hear the fapping soon, prolly need a towel boy to keep cleaning the mic. Where does the NFL find these guys, by the dumpster of the Heretic?

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:53 pm

I really need to hear a glowing, sparkling Smitty-homerism right now. Because if this is dude’s idea of keeping the proverbial foot on the pedal….then I’d hate to see us hitting the brakes…

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
1:53 pm

Playing football would be a good adjustment to make.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:53 pm

Yup. Looks like the first game of the ATL season where I will stop watching.

Wings

December 9th, 2012
1:53 pm

Is the Carolina OL better than ours? I would say no so why can’t ours play?

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

December 9th, 2012
1:53 pm

Cam Newton and Peters were doing a pirouette for about 5 secs on that attempted sack, you mean to tell me knowone on the D line could get off a tackle to assist?!?! Pathetic!

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
1:53 pm

Put in the backup D-lineman, hell they could not be any worse!

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:54 pm

Smith punks Owens.

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
1:55 pm

here comes 17 to 0

BobbyDawg

December 9th, 2012
1:55 pm

Come on guys. We need a turnover !

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:55 pm

Vance Walker does what the guys in front of him could not.

Let’s get Travian in there as well.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
1:55 pm

reminiscent of the game last season @ Carolina late in the season.

down big, and then they turned it on.

do i think they’ll turn it on? no.

because they have no desire to play this game today.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
1:55 pm

“Put in the backup D-lineman, hell they could not be any worse!” – falcon21

Put all the back-ups n so Smitty can at least save face and say he is resting starters and giving the rooks a look. This is an embarrassment.

D3

December 9th, 2012
1:56 pm

This is likely the most lifeless display I’ve seen by the Falcons in a long, long time.

Just pitiful, pitiful, pitiful.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:56 pm

McClain looking good.

Our team does not look ready to play, but the defense looks 4 notches better than the offense.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
1:57 pm

Pressure coming a bit. D has been on the field too long, but they’re getting somewhere.

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
1:57 pm

Defense MAY be adjusting. Not much we can do with our O-line.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:57 pm

SP – Too late for that. Should have done it after the first series and we might have bought that alibi.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
1:58 pm

the biggest concern from a ‘grand scheme of things’ point of view…

the offense.

make whatever argument you want.
in my eyes, no way you can say they’ve really improved all that much from a season ago with Mularkey.

yeah, they’re better at some things – the deep ball – but it hasn’t meant more points and more consistency.

they’re still an inconsistent unit. extremely inconsistent.

too many times, this 11-1 ‘elite team’ gets outplayed throughout courses of games.

from week to week, you see it. they’ll have moments of good to great football, only to follow it up with chunks upon chunks of time where they’re outplayed.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
1:59 pm

Well, the defense adjusted.

Falcons need to score here since they get the ball after the half.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
1:59 pm

I’m telling you – upgrade the defensive line at DT and you will see an even better defense, even if we didn’t move to the 3-4 base. A more effective interior D-line lets the DEs and LBs make more plays, which translates also to the secondary.

I think it’s clear – especially the way our defense has adjusted since the first series.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:00 pm

1st down?

standing ovation

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:00 pm

I only keep harping on the defense for one reason – because I think we can dominate on that side of the ball and are aa lot closer to doing that than we are on offense. I have no answers on the offense other than get better protection and better push on runs.

Beyond that, there is too much to fix. WR routes, check-downs, RB personnel and usage, the list goes on. We haven’t even seen the ball go towards Julio or Roddy. Crazy.

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
2:01 pm

best plays so for

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:01 pm

Rodgers shows exactly why he should be the RB you start the game with (and give the most touches to).

Ryan-to-Julio timing is still off.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:02 pm

Gimmick play with no chance to begin with.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:02 pm

Starting to understand why SP called Koetter Welcome Back. Didn’t Malarkey get a head coaching job or something, or was that a myth?

Please keep Turner’s Molasses @ss on the bench.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:02 pm

2 checkdowns…

2 out routes to the outside.

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
2:03 pm

look another 3 and out

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:03 pm

and then another out route to Tony G. which would’ve put him 7 yards short of the 1st down…

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:03 pm

Another insanely stupid, retardedly choreographed play.

I’m tired of this already.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
2:03 pm

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:03 pm

seriously man, someone chart each and every f’n offensive drive.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:05 pm

WRs getting no separation or we can’t see them, I don’t know what the deal. Ryan looks like a robot out there.

Agreed with anybody who says it looks like Mularkey calling the game.

OH WAIT. Did we forget? .

WE KEPT ALL OF MULARKEY’S PLAYS BECAUSE THEY WERE “GOOD PLAYS.”

Now it all makes sense…

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:05 pm

Matt Ryan just doesn’t look good lately. Crappy OL taking hold?

Why in the F— are you throwing a 1 yard pass when it’s 3rd and 10.

Wings

December 9th, 2012
2:05 pm

Well we get the ball at start of 2nd half.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
2:06 pm

Yup. I’m done. Not watching this anymore.

Wings

December 9th, 2012
2:06 pm

Newton is a better running back than any of ours.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:07 pm

Newton doing what he does. Good blocking by Panthers + bad contain by Falcons = Cam doing his first down celebration thing…again…..

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
2:08 pm

“and then another out route to Tony G. which would’ve put him 7 yards short of the 1st down…” – Wabe

“Another insanely stupid, retardedly choreographed play.

I’m tired of this already.” – BR

Glad someone else sees that that Koetter routes and play design are putrid at times. We are right back to that MM nonsense of routes well below the 1st down marker.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:08 pm

I think Smith has a problem preparing this team sometimes. Evidently they didn’t do crap for 10 days but bake cakes.

Pathetic. All the doubters who say we’re frauds have merit.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:08 pm

I’m really tired of being negative. But I have so little to be positive about. A loss here…and I know it’s too early to talk like that (is it?) will mean we are 11-2. And I will not be consoled by that.

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
2:08 pm

Two-minute Drooling.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:10 pm

Saved by two things:

1) Newton can’t throw the deep ball.

2) Owens with a wonderful hit on Steve Smith.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:10 pm

The Smith beats Owens.

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
2:10 pm

Well guys I’m going to pack for Hilton head. This ant worth watching unless your a Panther fan.Be back latter Maybe.

Have A blessed day guys

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:11 pm

Birdman – same to you…hope we can mess with you later about you not being around to pull it out…but I have my doubts on that one.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
2:12 pm

“I’m really tired of being negative. But I have so little to be positive about. A loss here…and I know it’s too early to talk like that (is it?) will mean we are 11-2. And I will not be consoled by that.” – BR

I’ll start the positive homer nonsense then. We are only down by two TD’s, we have water boys and cheerleaders that can take over for Smitty and Koetter in the second half. There may even be a coma patient that could take over the offensive playcalling to bring us back in no time. It could happen, just say “Rosebud” a few times.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:12 pm

Wasn’t so sure he got two feet in on that one. Pitiful and pathetic!

JJ

December 9th, 2012
2:13 pm

DRob is getting abused, AGAIN!!!

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:14 pm

Our defensive line is atrocious.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:15 pm

Truthfully, this team needs to get its arse kickedddddddddddddd hard, and it’d be better to see it before we get to the postseason than another beatdown in the postseason.

There are serious concerns, but it seems they continue to be overlooked.

The offense needs a swift kick in the rear end.

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
2:15 pm

Screwy call, even if it was on Carolina.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:16 pm

D has been on the field most of the game. They’ve done well to hold them to 13, but if this keeps up in the second half it could get ugly.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:16 pm

Abe showing his age today folks. And of course he gets no help whatsoever from anyone else.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:17 pm

I count 6 times now that we’ve “gotten” to Cam and haven’t done a thing.

Meanwhile, the first half offense makes me think I know exactly how we’ll look in a postseason game. Just like last year. And it pains me to say that.

I hope to see some second half magic, but my bones are telling me differently. I don’t feel it at all. Can’t put my finger on it, but it just ain’t there.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:17 pm

I’ll give props to the defense…

That defense has been on the field all f’n half, and they bent a whole lot, but they’ve refused to take that Marquez knockout blow…

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:17 pm

Is this the first game where we’ve been shut out in the first half?

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:18 pm

Indeed it is.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:19 pm

All considered, the defense has done pretty well to be honest.

The offense has what, like 15 total yards or something.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:19 pm

SP ,

Well you got a weak chuckle out of me on that one. I’m kinda caught between being sick to my stomach and angry as hell.

Watching the Panthers mock us with a better version of Smittyball is just plain sick.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

December 9th, 2012
2:20 pm

Don’t worry guys…if there’s a silver lining in all of this, we can rest assure knowing Smith will FIX it next week.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:21 pm

Michael Turner – 2 carries, 3 yards. Nice.

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
2:21 pm

Smitty ball, Smitt ball or whatever, this team was not ready to play today. Call it what you want!

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
2:21 pm

I hear you, Big Ray. It “ain’t there” because Atlanta ain’t there — and can’t put a finger on anybody.

Arno

December 9th, 2012
2:21 pm

Friends– Ryan couldn’t do it with the no huddle, either.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:24 pm

Adrian Peterson is a d@mn machine. Seeing such a dynamic back and looking at ours makes me very sad.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:26 pm

Hell, I don’t know what to say, this team is so bad today. Yikes.

BobbyDawg

December 9th, 2012
2:27 pm

I figured they’d put some points up, but I never thought they’d shut us out for the whole first half. HELLO HELLO CALLING MR. KOETTER !

JB Falcon

December 9th, 2012
2:28 pm

Everybody has been saying the Falcons aren’t getting any headlines, they are now!

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:28 pm

I’ll say this about our defense – I truly believe we don’t have all the personnel we need. Interior DL is weak, and there’s no other way for me to say it. We have one DE who is really a LB and is putting up a pretty good effort considering. We have another DE who is old and gets held A LOT. I don’t think hardly anybody else even sees the field. Can anybody tell me what other DEs played in the first half?

I don’t see much in the way of problems where the LBs are concerned, but hell…we only tend to play two of them at a time, most of the time. Stephen Nicholas doesn’t look as good as he once did, while Dent continues to look better and better.

The secondary is what it is. Owens is a backup for a reason, but he hasn’t played badly. McClain got picked on a lot early, but he’s still a ringer. Bonafide starter if you ask me. (let Grimes go).

Most importantly – and the reason why we haven’t been buried is because our defense gets beat on plays, not on drives. .

The first drive of the game, our defense got beat on the drive. Since then, they’ve gotten beat on a play here, a play there. It’s why we’ve kept them to one TD and a few FGs.

But again – we’ve had Cam Newton dead to rights on SEVERAL plays, only to zip right by him or otherwise let him slide around and then run downhill. The play with Corey Peters was the most egregious. Plays like that have one of two effects, depending on whether or not you finish the play:

1) If you miss on that play, the QB then feels untouchable and begins to play with such a high level of confidence that he feels he can make play after play…and generally does so.

2) If you make the play and get the sack, the QB now has something to think about, as does the OL. And you change the complexion of the game. Maybe now the offense is forced to do things they otherwise didn’t want to have to do, and the defense has an edge (plus momentum)…maybe you bait them into a takeaway situation.

But because the play isn’t made, the Carolina offense feels absolutely no fear. They’re backing up their pre-game words – “We’re better than them.”

We just played a first half that basically said – “You’re right. We’re frauds.”

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:29 pm

I’ve heard a couple of days of talk about Quizz getting most of the carries this week, and yet our two runs both go to Turner. Who gets positive yardage on ONE of those plays.

This had better end up just like last year’s game, because a loss to this team at this time is unacceptable.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:32 pm

If I recall correctly, Jim Mora was calling last year’s game, and told the audience not to change the channel, because they’d come back in the second half. And he turned out to be right.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:35 pm

Amazing what the no-huddle does, eh?

And why is Turner still in the game?

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:35 pm

FAIL.

I think we’re done. No reason to think otherwise as our OL gets beat, and Ryan is OFF.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:36 pm

That’s a prime example right there of why HD isn’t utilized…

Dude’s wide open, but Ryan is so fixated on Tony G.

I get he’s the primary option, but to those saying HD’s useless, he’s not. He just don’t get any attention.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
2:36 pm

Turner run stalled the drive

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:37 pm

Christ, I’m about to turn this effing game off.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:37 pm

Wabe, dead on.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
2:37 pm

Wabe

Ryan was hit on that pass. If he was clean, he would have hit HD.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:38 pm

I’d love to believe in a comeback. Really would. Because at this point, a win any way but through controversial calls would do.

But I don’t see any mojo in our offense. None.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:38 pm

I’m not trying to be dramatic here, but outside of the Eagles game in ‘09 and the 2nd Saints game last year, this is the worst I’ve seen this team play in the Smith Era.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:39 pm

Good play by Nicholas.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:39 pm

Ryan missed on that throw towards HD, but even the commentators saw that Ryan was hit on the throw.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:39 pm

D3: Nothing dramatic about it. Zero points against a 3-9 team is about as bad as it gets.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:40 pm

And my fantasy playoff hopes might come crashing down because at the moment, my kicker [Matt Bryant] has 0 f’n points. And my defense [Atlanta] has like 2 points.

Starting the Atlanta defense was dumb, but I was desperate.

JJ

December 9th, 2012
2:41 pm

DRob again!!!

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:41 pm

Yeah.

We are done.

Just made Cam Newton into a hero.

I’ll say it again – look at how well our DL was walled off…at EVERY position.

BobbyDawg

December 9th, 2012
2:41 pm

We’re looking like one of Norb Hecker’s old teams.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
2:42 pm

Wow…

Just wow.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:42 pm

Well, short of us pulling a “Miracle in the New Meadowlands”-style comeback, you might as well call this one.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:43 pm

And there’s the death knell. We’ve been playing with fire for a long, long time. Looks like we’re finally getting burnt.

Not to mention flat out embarrassed.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:44 pm

Wabe ,

I think you had it right. We need our asses kicked hard. Well, we’re getting it today. Making every pundit, every media asshole look brilliant and validated, justified, etc.

Nobody can take back the 11 wins we got, but nobody is going to give us any more wins, much less any postseason wins.

I don’t know what will be taken from this game, and I’m not interested in hearing anything Mike Smith has to say because I know it will be the same sh!t it always is.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
2:45 pm

Do you smell that?

It smells foul… the odor is potent…

Could it be that they are frauds? I think I’m going on strike till the playoffs.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:46 pm

Wabe ,

I think you had it pegged. We needed our asses kicked hard, and we are certainly getting that today.

I don’t know how that will translate into “fixing” things, but clearly not a damn thing was fixed from last week (because we won, I guess).

I don’t want to hear anything Smitty has to say. It will be the same stuff…

JJ

December 9th, 2012
2:46 pm

DRob, you sukk!!!

BobbyDawg

December 9th, 2012
2:47 pm

The next three games are looking tougher and tougher. Ouch !

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:47 pm

Rodgers AGAIN shows why he should be in the game ahead of and over Turner.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:47 pm

Not a pile of yards on the play, but Rodgers knows how to follow blockers.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:48 pm

they got rocked….

and they deserve to get rocked after cutting it close week after f’n week.

i hope they learn something about how good they ‘really’ are.

3 of the past 4 weeks, this offense has been drop dead pathetic.

vs. Arizona – pathetic, vs NOLA – pathetic, vs CAR – pathetic.

even against tampa, they weren’t all that great. they were middle of the road.

this is not a dominant offense. nor do we have a dominant defense.

we’ve been saying forever, you have to be dominant on one side or the other. i’m done waiting for the ’switch’ to go on and see them play a complete game. show me, or it’s the same ish as the past 5 seasons.

big playoff coming up for TD/Smitty.

it’ll be an indictment on one or the other, or both.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:49 pm

Huh.

No huddle is moving the chains.

Interesting how desperation works.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:49 pm

and now they wanna start using the middle of the field?

early in the game, it’s nothing but out routes.

i would say we’re one of the worst f’n teams using the middle of the field.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
2:50 pm

Wow. Going Quizz single back set and letting Ryan run the offense we move with ease. Who knew?

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:50 pm

Heck, I’m going ahead and writing the new post so I can just get this out of my system. Just awful.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:50 pm

Offense will have to stay uptempo and D will have to make stops for us to come back.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:50 pm

This is what makes me want to pay a Flowery Branch security guard to punch Smitty/Koetter in the face.

Rodgers has gotten significant positive yardage EVERY TIME he has touched the ball here in the second half.

So where in the F was he in the first half???!!!!

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
2:51 pm

Keep Turner on the bench.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:51 pm

happy feet Ryan…

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
2:51 pm

Guess what, guys. This game may suddenly become well worth watching. We may not win it, but the offense just started practicing for the playoffs.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:51 pm

Wow. Going Quizz single back set and letting Ryan run the offense we move with ease. Who knew?

There it is.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:52 pm

Bad throw by Ryan, even though he was under pressure. Gotta stand in there and make the throw.

Smitty with the gamble. Hmmm.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
2:53 pm

Ok. I’ll give Smitty that one. But it’s what he should have done anyway.

Even though it was Ryan that made the play.

Better score a TD here.

BobbyDawg

December 9th, 2012
2:54 pm

MR2 hardly getting any time at all.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:55 pm

Just pisses me off to know deep down inside that when we need to turn our offense on, we can. Amazing how that works.

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
2:56 pm

Who’s the “Burner” now!

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
2:56 pm

Why did they bring out Turner?

Fire Mike Smith!

BobbyDawg

December 9th, 2012
2:57 pm

Turner. Oh No!

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:58 pm

it’s common sense, the best way for the Falcons to slow down the opposing pass rush it to stay in an up tempo offense…

that’s their best shot at slowing down these pass rushers.

they gotta tire them out.

why we haven’t seen more no huddle is yet again something boggles one’s mind.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
2:58 pm

I don’t care how many game that old man has won in the reg. season. This guy has no idea how offense works!

AB needs to get rid of this clown.

D3

December 9th, 2012
2:58 pm

This is what makes me want to pay a Flowery Branch security guard to punch Smitty/Koetter in the face.Big Ray

Man, I needed that laugh today.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
2:59 pm

that’s the most time Ryan’s gotten since when?

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
2:59 pm

Okay. Now do that three or four more times.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

December 9th, 2012
2:59 pm

Positive yardage in the no-huddle…but we’re still dinkin/donkin down field. Where’s the 15-20 yard gashes passing the ball. FINALLY TD!

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:00 pm

And there it is, finally.

No time to celebrate. Defense has to play lights out, can’t allow any long drives, even though that will be difficult. Need a a takeaway…or three of them.

Have to stay in hurry up offense, too.

The No Huddle shows the flaws in our gameplan and also shows that our CS does NOT know when to make adjustments on offense.

I want to bang on Koetter. But I can’t get past the smell of Smitty.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
3:01 pm

And there you go. Getting rid of Smitty and Koetter needs to be off-season move number one. Keep Nolan at all costs and bring in a HC that understands the offensive side of the ball. No playing favorites or to outdated philosphies that hold things back…just a point scoring machine no mercy mofo.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:01 pm

Big Lou, Wabe – Yep.

D3 – oh you thought I was joking? ;)

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:02 pm

SP – I should just go ahead an agree with that, shouldn’t I?

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:04 pm

i may be in the minority here, but i’m not canning Smitty.

i’d be more inclined to can TD than can Smitty at this point, mainly because I still don’t think it’s purely scheme holding us back.

it’s the O-Line.

there’s no telling exactly what this offense, or Mularkey’s offense for that matter, would look like with a good/great O-Line.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:05 pm

Getting rid of Smitty ain’t gonna happen ya’ll. He just needs to keep his hands off of offense.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:06 pm

Defensive coverage is definitely hurting without Willy Mo and Samuel.

But still holding thanks to Cam’s inaccuracy.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:06 pm

Even though I still think we need an RB, first two picks should be OG and Big Boy DT.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:07 pm

Wabe ,

Understand your point of view, but if Smitty is given carte blanche, he keeps his hands in the offense.

As for TD…I hear you, particularly where the OL is concerned. But who do you get to replace him? Much harder to answer that one, at least for me.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:07 pm

man rodgers is strong young gun…

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:08 pm

Rodgers continues to make plays…and then get taken off the field. I don’t get it at all.

There’s the old Clabo we know – stalling a drive with a f@cking penalty.

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
3:08 pm

Wabe, I agree.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:08 pm

OK, so did ya’ll just see McClure FALL DOWN ALL BY HIMSELF?

Sorry, he should have never been starting this year…..period.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:08 pm

Big Ray

A better scheme can help the weaknesses of the Oline.

Just a thought.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:09 pm

Wabe – that doesn’t mean I disagree. Took me a while to put the hammer on TD. But between that and the faux OL competition…I’m hung up on who has the most fault.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:09 pm

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:10 pm

Draw play with Turner.

Where is Rodgers? Oh, languishing on the sideline, being punished for doing what the guy ahead of him on the depth chart doesn’t do.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:10 pm

Why do they keep playing Turner!?

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:10 pm

i definitely get you big ray, but that’s why it’s hard for me to say i’d can either one…

i think of what the chargers did.

the chargers fired marty schottenheimer after a 14-2 season because they epic failed in the playoffs, and then they hired norv turner, and now look at where their franchise is at.

AJ Smith was a GM that had built one of the most talented teams in the league, then after he fired Marty, that franchise went nowhere. He became a laughing stock of a GM.

Their story is eerily similar to ours.

Don’t wanna see an overreaction despite it possibly bing a tempting option.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:10 pm

No better way to kill a drive than bring in Molassses Turner, eh?

S-T-U-P-I-D!

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:10 pm

By the way, you seeing how much time Ryan’s getting right now?

You think it has anything to do with that up tempo ‘no huddle’ offense?

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:11 pm

Roddy falling down doesn’t help.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:12 pm

Wabe ,

Very smart analgoy except one thing – and it ain’t your fault – the Chargers epic failed by hiring Norv Turner. Stupid, stupid, stupid move. Even more stupid to keep him all this time.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
3:12 pm

NICE damn catch JJ. Keep this up, keep Smitty away and we can win.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:13 pm

Where are those deep routes on a consistent basis?

Maybe our team should just start spotting our opponent 20+ points to get our offense to do worth a d@mn.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:13 pm

I’m just saying that Norv would be a good pick up for the OC.

Head coach? Heck, A tumble weed would do a better job at this point.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:14 pm

Big Lou – you’re right…and Wabe has the answer – no huddle offense. Because apparently between Koetter and Smitty, they can’t figure out an actual scheme. I don’t know what to say.

In the meantime, this would be MY scheme, since I don’t know anything about coaching in the NFL:

1) Konz takes over at Center for McClure after this season. Too late to change it right now.

2) Draft a dominant RG.

3) Draft another OT.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:14 pm

JJ almost makes another play.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:15 pm

Right back to epic fail sideline passes. Bad throw, behind Davis.

Ryan is still not completely on his game, and that last throw was all him.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:15 pm

C’mon JJ, haul it in.

3rd and 10.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:15 pm

punch this in and make it interesting…

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

December 9th, 2012
3:15 pm

Say what you will, when a team comes out flat, without urgency to win a football game, THATS ON THE HEAD COACH!

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:16 pm

And then Ice makes the play against tight coverage with the HOFer.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:16 pm

Holy crap. There goes Julio.

Making plays. And going for two.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:16 pm

And the comeback is on. This team is trying to kill us, I swear.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:16 pm

Boy that Luke Kuelchy is a crybaby, eh?

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:16 pm

how much common sense does one need to see how much better this offense looked with Ryan callin’ the shots…

it’s slowed down that pass rash immensely.

and ryan ain’t having Tony G. run 3 yard out routes when we need 10 yards…

Unca' Bob

December 9th, 2012
3:17 pm

Good job JJ(both).

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:17 pm

Nice. Still an uphill battle, ya’ll.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
3:17 pm

HA HA. There we go. This was available all game and all season except for a retard that wants turtle-ball.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:17 pm

Now we have the Panthers nervous. They don’t know what to do.

They did while the CS was running the offense. Now they don’t. Hmmm.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:18 pm

interesting…

but again, my f’n fantasy kicker don’t get jack squat man.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:18 pm

Nice call. Carolina import some Katrina refs for this game?

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:18 pm

how is that not converted?

looks good to me

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:19 pm

That ball was not bobbled!

What a horrible call!

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:19 pm

What? They ruled it good and now saying he bobbled? That will get overturned, surely.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:19 pm

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:20 pm

Can that be challenged!? No way!

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:21 pm

Ah…there’s the challenge. Good.

I think it was legit catch.

Bobbled or not, he came down with it and never lost control.

BS call. It was legit catch, possession. Ball never touched the ground, either.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:22 pm

they won’t overturn it because of ‘indisputable evidence’…

what f’n ref saw him bobble it?

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:22 pm

OMIGOD.

Somebody got paid off.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:22 pm

Total BS. Can’t blame Smitty for that challenge. The comeback is on anyway.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:22 pm

Wow. Well, defense needs to make a play.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:23 pm

Now I’m really pissed. Bad f@cking call.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:23 pm

WHAT A FRACKING TERRIBLE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why even have effin replay.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
3:23 pm

Good bullspit call. That should make us mad. I knew there was a coma patient in the stands that could take over on offense.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:23 pm

Need a quick 3 and out here

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:24 pm

I’m feeling better, but still not feeling good

Might be too little too late. Need stellar play from the defense and get a quick out. Then get the offense back on the field for another quick strike, followed by same process all over again.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:25 pm

what is up with the soft coverage on the outsides man

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:25 pm

If we’re going to give up this many third downs, we have to count on turnovers to get the ball back.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:26 pm

Owens burned short.

Panthers can win by using the gameplan WE should have used.

1) Strike quickly and decisively to begin the game.

2) Settle into a rhythm on called plays once you have the lead and eat up the clock to close out the game.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:27 pm

D picking a bad time to come unglued.

Weak, weak DT’s.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:28 pm

Watch the Panthers get this call. I will be livid.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:28 pm

Lol!

Bad challenge. Loss of timeout for Carolina.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:29 pm

If they call this a catch, my TV may get broken today.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:30 pm

Big Ray

Sorry man, Owens is having a great game. All catches made on him have been covered extremely well.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:30 pm

I’m still not convinced we come away with a win here. The offense has the ability to run the field and score now that we’ve gotten away from that damned script, but there is another problem.

When you force your defense to play two and a half quarters ALL BY ITSELF, you run a very serious risk of losing the game because they simply cannot contain the entire time. Especially when they are missing two starters in the secondary and sufficient talent on the defensive line.

It’s a bad, bad gamble.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:31 pm

Screw these refs.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:31 pm

I knew it. I just f@cking knew it.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:32 pm

How’s this for something to part on your calculating chart of averages, Smitty?

YOU CAN’T MAKE A NOT-QUITE-DOMINANT DEFENSE PLAY THE GAME BY ITSELF FOR MORE THAN TWO QUARTERS AGAINST A LEGITIMATE OFFENSE AND EXPECT TO WIN.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:32 pm

Are you f@cking kidding me? So they rule both as incompletes, but they overturn theirs and not ours.

Just wow.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:33 pm

I’m glad we stuffed Newton on that play.

But we have one more play to go. Let’s get it.

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
3:33 pm

This is BS, gotta tighten up the coverage.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:33 pm

Heh…we kinda maybe sorta got away with that one. Kinda borderline. But I’ll take it either way.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:34 pm

Nice tackle by Vance. It’s getting close to game here ya’ll.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:34 pm

Matty Ice Time indeed. I’m thinking First and Bomb…just like in the Tampa Bay game.

Arno

December 9th, 2012
3:35 pm

Falcons scored twice when my wife was downstairs. Should I send her down there again?

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:35 pm

Theses announcers, man.

“Did Dunta Robinson get away with one there?”

Screw you pal.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:35 pm

Wonder of Smith got the memo that Turner should not be on this offense.

News at 10…

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:35 pm

I can’t lie. I want the CS to get their asses handed to them due to horrible offensive gameplanning…..but I do NOT want to lose. I want to take the Kitties on their own field after spotting them a 23-0 lead. And besides…I’m not convinced Smitty and Koetter would take a loss the right way. They haven’t shown me this in the last 4 games or so.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:36 pm

Snacktastic

I would go for it. They lost their starting safety.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:37 pm

Ryan looks like a shark out there….he’s excited like he smells blood. He did not look like this AT ALL for the better part of 3 quarters.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:37 pm

Over the middle to HD. Amazing how this works.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:37 pm

Draw play – good design.

Rodgers would have gotten 7-8 yards on that. Turner is slow.

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
3:38 pm

Send her down Arno!

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:38 pm

If Ryan were a bit better at scrambling, some of these sacks wouldn’t happen. He’s scrambled well in some earlier games, too.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:38 pm

Protection finally breaks as Julio gets held the way Abe usually does.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:38 pm

Wonder of Smith got the memo that Turner should not be on this offense.

News at 10…– Big Lou

Man, gave me a belly laugh on that one.

An HD sighting, I forgot he played for us.

And then Turner comes back in the game.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:38 pm

Go for it on fourth.

Wings

December 9th, 2012
3:39 pm

I’m thinking falcons game plan was to run the ball. And the receivers were not ready to catch the ball at the beginning.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:39 pm

Well, we’ve seen that mistake before.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:40 pm

That Sack and int was all on Ryan.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:40 pm

That’s game.

This is what happens when there is no protection.

Ryan holds the ball – he gets sacked and you say he held it too long.

Ryan makes a desperate throw off his back foot, you say bad decision.

But what do you expect him to do. It’s 4th down.

And our OL, despite the up tempo…still sucks.

I guess now I know why I didn’t think we’d complete the comeback.

Wings

December 9th, 2012
3:41 pm

Wasted play to turner in that series.

Arno

December 9th, 2012
3:41 pm

She’s laughing fal21. I’m not…

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:41 pm

Big Lou – I don’t buy even on penny of that.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:41 pm

Stupid to have turner in there on second down. It removed the check down option.
That drive stall was mostly on Ryan.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:42 pm

Any coincidence that when Turner comes back in the game our drive fails?

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

December 9th, 2012
3:42 pm

Running Turner on 1st down, just that play alone took some of the spark, momentum from the team.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:43 pm

Even the commentators saw it. But I’m sure there were 2 WRs open somewhere.

Ryan should have seen them both through Thomas Davis and the other guy in his face.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:43 pm

Hell, did Baker just give up?

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:43 pm

Sorry Big Ray,

Call a spade a spade.

Ryan had plenty of time on that sack. He should have threw it away.

The int was a poor choice.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:44 pm

Nice penalty. Funny how we don’t get those flags.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:44 pm

Ballgame. Thanks DRob.

JJ

December 9th, 2012
3:44 pm

Way to go DRob!

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:46 pm

Big Lou – easy to say, I guess. Some folks would say they expect their franchise QB to make or at least try to make a play when the coach decides to go for it on 4th down with 6 min left in the 4th quarter and you’re down 10 points.

But what do I know.

Oh wait, I do know one thing – anything short of a first down on that play is gonna be Ryan’s fault. He shoudl have beat the coverage, beat the pass rush, beat everything.

JB Falcon

December 9th, 2012
3:46 pm

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
3:47 pm

Odd how we’ve spent most of the season making great use of screen passes, and then get burned by them multiple times.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:47 pm

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:48 pm

Nice.

Well, we got our asses whooped. Don’t bother playing now . Spike the f’in ball and go home, because we waited to long to play football with 22 guys….we must have thought that we could play with 11 for most of the game and get away with it.

D3

December 9th, 2012
3:48 pm

Hey, we deserve to lose. That coaching staff and whole team should be GD embarrassed.

Playoff preview?

Wings

December 9th, 2012
3:49 pm

It was fourth down when he threw interception. Panthers would have gotten ball anyway.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:49 pm

The sack was on third down.

The int happened from staring down Roddy. 4th down or not, you got to be smarter than that.

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
3:50 pm

YEAP JB

all we can hope for is for them to learn from this . LIKE WERE IS THIS NO HUDDLE ALL THE TIME !!!!!!!

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
3:50 pm

Matt Ryan has been running for his life all season, dude can only do what he can do with this shetty o-line. Atleast he tried to make a play!

Coop

December 9th, 2012
3:50 pm

This team’s supposed to have me confident they’ll win in the playoffs?

Coop

December 9th, 2012
3:52 pm

We talked about Smitty being outclassed. This is one of them. We’ll lose next week too. Beat lions, lose to Bucs and limp into playoffs. What a joke.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:52 pm

Panthers mocked us perfectly by using our own past successful gameplan against us.

There were some serious execution problems. However, on defense, I see no point in bagging on them for execution late in the 4th quarter when they’ve played the whole game by themselves.

I will gripe abotu their lack of execution on bringing the damn QB down when they’ve had the chances.

The offense – except for a couple of seriesin the no huddle, it was just awful. Everybody had issues, though I maintain that Ryan’s, though far more popular to target, weren’t the worst of them. I call scheme/coaching for that #1 offender…The OL takes second spot, then Ryan’s gaffes after that.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:53 pm

Coop – I’m not good at predictions, but I’m guessing you’re on the money.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:53 pm

That’s the Clabo we know and can’t stand. Another penalty to add insult to injury.

Coop

December 9th, 2012
3:54 pm

So the bottom line is simple. Our OL and interior DL are below average…

Wait, I think we’ve been saying that for 5 years. So, I put that at the feet of TD and Smitty.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:56 pm

5 carries for Turner, 4 for Rodgers. I guess Smitty was kidding about Quizz getting more rushing touches, and he made sure the kid got at least one less touch than Magic City Turner for the bulk of the game, while it mattered.

What is this..”If we’re not going to run Turner a lot, then we aren’t going to run at all” ?

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
3:56 pm

Cage

I hope every one has a safe blessed week . 4 and a half to 5 hour trip ahead .

Keep you heads up cage . I might check in tonight after I check in tonight. God Bless

BobbyDawg

December 9th, 2012
3:56 pm

I can’t lose faith in our Birds, but this is the worst game I’ve seen them play in a while.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
3:56 pm

Well,

I rather them lose now and not get their arses handed to them against the Giants. Let’s see of those loss helps.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:56 pm

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:57 pm

Come the F on. One more TD to make it look haflway respectable, please?

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:58 pm

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

December 9th, 2012
3:58 pm

BREAKING NEWS: Smith does post game interview before the Falcons loss to Panters. Coach Smith, how do you think your team performed today, Smith: We did some positive things in every phase of the game…there’s some things we’ll definiely have to FIX.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
3:59 pm

Munnerlyn feeling TG up like a pedophile.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
3:59 pm

I’ll be waiting for the rose colored point of view from the usual suspects…

There are problems, and the coaching staff needed an arse whooping to try to get their focus on the problems.

For some stupid f’n reason, they can’t seem to recognize the problems. Or they’re not doing enough to fix the problems.

Koetter = 0 points
No Huddle = 13

You look why these guys were so successful in weeks 1-3, it might have something to do with that no huddle…

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
4:00 pm

Birdman – safe travels, my friend. God speed.

D3

December 9th, 2012
4:00 pm

Turner gets a TD. Big whoop.

Wabe

December 9th, 2012
4:01 pm

tell our chump team to get off the field…

D3

December 9th, 2012
4:02 pm

Man, Panthers are bunch of d@mn classless punks. Head cases, criminals, and trash.

Congrats, you won your 4th game of the season out of 13.

D3

December 9th, 2012
4:03 pm

Ron Rivera just saved his job by beating our stupid @ss.

Birdman

December 9th, 2012
4:03 pm

Thanks Big Ray.

You be safe this week brother

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
4:03 pm

Steelers got whooped by the Chargers! Lmao!

Arno

December 9th, 2012
4:03 pm

Wonder what this does to Rivera’s status.

The Time is NOW

December 9th, 2012
4:04 pm

Hi Cage! Don’t want to say too much now.Better to get over the emotions first. In the early third qtr., I was getting ready to throw around words like disgusted and unacceptable. Then by the middle of the 4th qtr. I thought we were going to at least make itinteresting. Then the final collapse. We got beat by a bad team today. I hate it when that happens Especially in our division. At least it was on the road. We didn’t get embarrassed as badly as we should have, but this kind of game at this point does not promote confidence for the postseason. Getting kinda late if they are gonna get on a roll gong into the playoffs. Disappointing use of the mini-bye.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
4:04 pm

FoxSports turd burglars are beside themselves in the commentary booth.

I hope Blank gets a copy of that whole broadcast and plays it in the offices and bedrooms of TD, Smitty and the rest of the coaching staff.

…except Nolan. I have no issues with him. I’d renegotiate his contract and let him implement ANY scheme he wants…whether Smitty likes it or not.

snacktastic

December 9th, 2012
4:05 pm

Good grief.

Have fun dissecting this one, Cagers. I’m gonna find something else to do.

Slant Pattern

December 9th, 2012
4:05 pm

Bleh. What’s even worse is nothing will be learned by this.

BobbyDawg

December 9th, 2012
4:05 pm

I’m just glad we didn’t drive up to Charlotte which we considered. If I have a heart attack or stroke I want to be close to Emory or Piedmont.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
4:06 pm

Big gripe I have on offense – Turner fails to make a play but often gets to stay in the game.

Rodgers makes a play and you see him heading to the sidelines right after that.

I just don’t get it.

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
4:06 pm

We just whooped by the 4-9 panthers! Lmao!!!

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
4:07 pm

Weird week.

Bears lost. Steelers got creamed.

Still, Falcons don’t usually lose two games in a row. I think they might beat the Giants. That’s if Smith learns from this loss.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
4:07 pm

Wabe ,

Excellent points all around. I’m sure Smitty’s lawyer, who wasn’t present for the game, will have plenty to say presently…or maybe tomorrow.

Wings

December 9th, 2012
4:08 pm

The football has to be taken out of the hands of HC Smith. Turner must be benched. I said it this time last year and I am saying it again.

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
4:12 pm

Big Lou ,

I just don’t know. I sure hope something is learned from this.

As to Ryan…he had some issues in this game, I CAN see that. But I think they are magnified because it was like he was allowed to play for less than two quarters. I would be far more upset with him if he’d been given the reins for the bulk of the game and just screwed up.

One has to consider his 325 yards came almost all in the late third and early fourth quarters. He really only made one mistake.

And dude is just NOT mobile in the pocket (what pocket there was). Tom Brady and Peyton Manning take sacks in those same positions that Ryan does. Difference is maybe they make the play because of an incredibly accurate throw as they are being hit, or because their man gets separation and makes the play.

Just sayin’….

falcon21

December 9th, 2012
4:12 pm

That Lmao was from being pissed, my bad!

Chop Buster

December 9th, 2012
4:13 pm

It’s a divisional opponent who was playing their superbowl today. We have to keep things in perspective, BUT…this offense sputtered from the get-go and never had a sense of urgency until the fourth quarter. Why wouldn’t you throw the ball throughout the third and fourth quarters only handing off to Jacquizz? Turner does not need to be in the game when you’re trying to make a comeback. Maybe this is the WAKE-UP call this team needed. We’ll see what they’re made of next week.

D3

December 9th, 2012
4:17 pm

New thread up, working on finishing up new post and being done with this terrible experience.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-fans/2012/12/09/atlanta-falcons-birds-embarrassed-by-panthers/

Big Ray

December 9th, 2012
4:17 pm

I wish I could say the Steelers losing to the defunct Chargers made me feel better, but it would be a lie.

Steelers are playing without their starting QB and having legit age/injury/talent issues at multiple positions. But there ain’t much wrong with their schemes. Or their heart. Or their effort.

I cannot say the same of our team, though I am loathe to bag on our defense.

I’m firmly convinced that our defense would be top 3-5 if they had more talent on the DL and more health in the secondary. I really do think the problem is not scheme, and even the execution (tackling) problems are not so bad. Sometimes it’s bad, but that is nearly always after the defense has been played way too much.

Still….with better talent and health, they’ll be dominant. 30 points against these guys is unheard of, largely. They’ve only allowed that TWICE this season.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
4:17 pm

Big Ray

QBs have to make plays with the possessions they get. Period.

I’m not saying Ryan was the only one making mistakes, but saying everyone else is at fault is also incorrect. There were multiple plays were Ryan threw the ball inaccurately or held it too long on a few plays. It’s called Romo syndrome. Nice stats, but poor choices trying to do everything himself.

Now, still, coaches, Oline, and Dline gets blame, too. I put this game mostly on the coaches, though.

The Time is NOW

December 9th, 2012
4:17 pm

HD does not seem to have the same connection to adjust to MR when he is in trouble. One throw he was wide open. If he had faded deeper with MR being rushed he would’ve at least had a play on the ball. We need one more chemistry receiver. If HD is it, he and MR need to do some side work. If MR doen’t suggest it, Koetter should.

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
4:19 pm

Big Ray

Steelers starting QB did play… and the serious position injuries were healed up. They just got spanked.

Greg Mendel

December 9th, 2012
4:22 pm

Oh, well. Defense played pretty good, especially for being on the field all afternoon. Offense was horrible, although they “won” the second half. Ryan was rushed all day, but adjusted as well as he could in the second half. Michael Turner should never be seen again in a Falcons uniform.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think many of our Red Zone failures boil down to 3-yard passes being a better bet than running the ball? That’s how I see it, and if it’s true, it’s an indictment of our O-line, Turner, and somebody’s refusal to run Rodgers.

JJ

December 9th, 2012
4:33 pm

Tampa lost and the only thing that can brighten this day FURTHER would be a embarrasing lose to the TAINTS!!!

Big Lou

December 9th, 2012
4:42 pm

How was that not block in the back?

Lol! Sandy refs!

Ravens lost…

Wouldn’t it be crazy if the 49ers, bears, and packers lose?