Atlanta Falcons: Birds Grind Out Tough Win vs. Bucs

Falcons Earn Hard Fought Win Over Rivals

Atlanta Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan (2) throws a pass as teammate guard Justin Blalock defends during the second quarter of an NFL football game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sunday, Nov. 25, 2012, in Tampa, Fla. (AP Photo/Brian Blanco)

Falcons Earn Tough Win (Brian Blanco)

The naysayers will keep finding ways to doubt the Falcons and their close wins. As Terry Bradshaw said today, “the Falcons are winning, but they just aren’t dominating.” Strahan chimes in that if they play too many close games, they may eventually lose one, maybe in January.” The fact is that the Falcons beat a very good division opponent who’s been one of the hottest teams in the NFL on the road, while still not even coming close to playing their best football. Sure, it wasn’t pretty at times and downright ugly others, but overall the Falcons won another tough game on the road, improved to 10-1 (which is still tied for the best record in the NFL), and essentially own a 4 game division lead with 5 games to go. A short week lies ahead in yet another enormous game, this time to the rival Saints, who handed the Falcons their only loss. A look at the Falcons big win over the Bucs………..

Huge Win Over a Streaking Rival on the Road

Some still say the Falcons aren’t winning big enough or dominating, but the fact remains that they are winning and have done so 10 times out of 11. There are those that continue to believe the Falcons are a House of Cards and that’s somehow projecting to another playoff failure. However, you can’t have it both ways and sing the praises of a team that’s one of the hottest in the NFL and when a win is achieved, it somehow wasn’t pretty enough. This wasn’t the Cardinals, Panthers, or Raiders, it was a division opponent who’s been playing really good football lately. Of course it wasn’t always pretty, but the Falcons overcame two turnovers and plenty of missed opportunities to get it done yet again. This time it was against a tough team on the road.

Samuel Gives a Heroic Effort

Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones (11) is shoved out of bounds by Tampa Bay Buccaneers free safety Ahmad Black (43) after a reception during the second quarter of an NFL football game Sunday, Nov. 25, 2012, in Tampa, Fla. Officials ruled that Jones was out of bounds. (AP Photo/Brian Blanco)

Julio's Career Day (Brian Blanco)

Most believed that the trade for Asante Samuel would lead to a much needed infusion of attitude and swagger the Falcons have sorely missed. Well, that surely has had a good impact, but the former All-Pro cornerback turned in an effort worthy of heroic proportions. With the Falcons either clinging to a tiny lead or having to come back to win the game on the road, Samuel willed himself in the game while visibly being injured. Several times it was possible to think that he may have separated his shoulder and be out for the year. He gutted it out through pain and suffering knowing how important the game was and epitomized heart and effort. He dropped a few potential interceptions, but seeing the amount of pain he was in, it became completely understandable. If anyone wondered about Samuel’s ability to back up his boisterous personality on the field, all those questions were answered with authority and then some with his gutty performance.

Super and Stout Run Defense

The belief among many was that rookie running back phenom Doug Martin would run laps over and around the Falcons porous run defense. It’s been a struggle pretty much all year and Martin has been tearing up the league the last few weeks. The Falcons defense bowed their necks and found a way to corral and stop the streaking running back. Martin did score two touchdowns, but the Birds held the former Boise State RB at 50 yards on 21 carries. Only the Washington Redskins held Martin to fewer yards (33) and that was only on 8 carries. Twice the defense kept the Falcons in the game after two costly turnovers and played a huge role overall in the game. They may not be a dominant defense just yet, but they are getting it done when they need to, especially regarding points and keeping hot players in check.

What Will it Take?

Atlanta Falcons running back Jacquizz Rodgers (32) eludes the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense, incuding, ptb54n=, strong safety Mark Barron (24) and free safety Ronde Barber (20) to score during the second quarter of an NFL football game Sunday, Nov. 25, 2012, in Tampa, Fla. (AP Photo/Reinhold Matay)

Time to Give Quizz the Rock (Reinhold Matay)

No point in beating a dead horse, but it’s impossible to ignore the elephant in the room. What will it take for Coach Smith and OC Koetter to give Jacquizz Rodgers the start and the vast majority of carries over Michael Turner. Smith and Koetter are “gradually” giving Rodgers more looks and he’s not disappointing. He had 49 yards on 10 carries and chipped in another 2 catches for 30 yards. And that’s not even including the huge return that Rodgers had to set up the game winning drive. This is not to say that Turner doesn’t have a place on the team, but as Cage Member Paddy O suggested, perhaps the Falcons should look to use Turner in more goal-line situations the way the Steelers did with Jerome Bettis towards the end of his career.

Maybe it’s unfair to just compare the numbers, but Turner averaged a meager 1.3 yards, gaining 17 yards on 13 carries, and that’s including a long run of 9 yards. Again, it might not be his fault as much as poor run play-calling, but it’s time to hand over the keys to Jacquizz Rodgers as the Falcons primary back. It doesn’t mean that Turner shouldn’t see the field anymore, but the evidence has also become insurmountable. Remember that it was Coach Smith himself who proclaimed that Rodgers was not exclusively a 3rd down back long ago in preseason.

Better Pass Rush

The Falcons only came away with 2 total sacks (one by Biermann and the other by D.Robinson), but they pressured Josh Freeman very well on Sunday. They didn’t seem to get to him too much early on, but the they surely did as the game wore on. Many times it was seen that Freeman was getting hit as he released the ball and having to pick himself up after the play. In fact, at least one of the would-be picks came after Freeman was getting hit while throwing the ball. John Abraham was getting his usual pressure and Jonathan Babineaux seemed to almost exclusively play defensive end much of the time. Young guns Cliff Matthews and Travian Robertson were both seen getting decent pressure as well, a welcome sign. It was also good to see Corey Peters come back in the game after leaving with an injury. Some of the blitzes seem to get picked up a little too easily, but that’s just going to happen sometimes. The blitz and sack by Dunta Robinson was a thing of beauty.

Defense Makes Some Big Stands

Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Josh Freeman (5) throws a pass as he is pressured by Atlanta Falcons defensive tackle Corey Peters (91) during the first quarter of an NFL football game Sunday, Nov. 25, 2012, in Tampa, Fla. (AP Photo/Reinhold Matay)

Pass Rush Better (Reinhold Matay)

As mentioned earlier, the Falcons defense still won’t be confused with being dominant. However, they are making some big stands lately to keep the the team in the game, many times after offensive mistakes. The Cardinals game saw the defense save an offense in major meltdown mode and they made some enormous stops against the Bucs that could have easily led to a much more difficult game. And remember that this is only Mike Nolan’s first year at the helm and while there’s surely a ways to go, this defensive is showing excellent progress. They held the Bucs to 3 points after Matt Ryan threw an interception. When Ryan was pummeled by a Bucs defender and fumbled the ball away, the defense again held them to a field goal. They also held the Bucs to a 56 yard field goal attempt, which they missed. If the Bucs cash in a touchdown many of those times, this may be reporting a second loss.

Props to DRob

Dunta Robinson has been one of the fans and critics favorite lightning rods since he signed the eye-popping contract as a free agent cornerback back in 2010. Many called him a free agent bust and a major overreach in a weak free agency class to simply fill a gap. While Robinson hasn’t been an All-Pro cornerback, he has looked much better this year and had a very tough and gritty game against the Bucs. He’s one of the few defensive players that will deliver a huge hit that many of the best defenses possess. Robinson had a bone-crunching hit on Doug Martin, popped up, and seemingly might be done for the day. He went and got check out and returned soon afterwards and help lead the defense to a big win.

Struggling Safeties

What has happened to the Falcons safeties that looked like world-beaters the first few weeks? It was a good talking point throughout the off-season on which player or what position would benefit the most from Mike Nolan’s new scheme. While the safety position wasn’t the highest on many fans lists, some thought that it could see a major improvement. Some thought William Moore might elevate his game to a Pro Bowl level and Thomas DeCoud could get back some of the early magic he flashed in 2009. Early on, it looked as though those premonitions may come true. DeCoud and Moore were all over the field, making interceptions, knocking down passes, and delivering big hits.

Atlanta Falcons head coach Mike Smith during the second quarter of an NFL football game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sunday, Nov. 25, 2012, in Tampa, Fla. (AP Photo/Brian Blanco)

Smith Looks Serious (Brian Blanco)

Recently, however, they have both looked less than stellar. Moore hasn’t necessarily done poorly, but he’s not having the same impact he was in the beginning. DeCoud, on the other hand, has looked pedestrian at times. He’s often seen getting caught out of position, using shoulder bumps on players instead of giving big hits, and sometimes looking downright awful in coverage. It’s surely not all their fault as many other positions have had their own issues and that’s likely having a negative impact on them. Some of it may have to do with the front 7 having problems against the run and thus inching closer for run support. Whatever the reason, it would be very nice to see the safety tandem get back to their early season form.

Walking Wounded at Cornerback

Thankfully the Falcons have found Robert McClain to step up and in an otherwise huge gap left by a slew of injuries to the Falcons cornerbacks. Brent Grimes was lost for the year in game 1 vs. the Chiefs and Asante Samuel has been banged up the last few weeks. Dunta Robinson left for a spell on Sunday, but returned later. There’s a sense of concern on the depth chart after McClain as Christopher Owens and Dominique Franks are next on the list and are surely not the model of consistency. While McClain has been the best surprise of the season, this is a position that will have to have some infusion of talent, whether through the draft or in free agency. They don’t necessarily need starting quality, but definitely need some better depth.

Blown Opportunities

The Falcons had plenty of chances to put some distance between themselves and the Bucs on Sunday. The Birds of course got the ball first as they always do and had a nice opening drive bog down yet again for a field goal. Of course there was the botching of the red zone opportunity to end the 1st half when Julio Jones caught a pass on the 4 yard line, where Coach Smith seemed more concerned with eating up the clock than scoring a touchdown. Matt Bryant misses a chip-shot field goal to get the lead at halftime. After the break, the defense holds the Bucs to a field goal and the Falcons promptly score a touchdown with an 80 yard strike to Jones. The defense gets a three and out to give the offense the ball back and big chance to gain some separation. What does the offense do? Only go three and out themselves with a rather pitiful play selection. Even though you can’t fault the defense very much, they did have the Bucs backed up to their goal-line at 1st and 21, only to let them drive all the way down for a touchdown. At the end Matt Bryant essentially misses a game-ending field goal. It’s a little nitpicking because they ultimately won the game, but the Falcons have to learn to stop squandering so many opportunities to gain some separation when they have the chance.

Will this Falcons Team Ever Fully Click?

Atlanta Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan (2) huddles with the team during the first quarter of an NFL football game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sunday, Nov. 25, 2012, in Tampa, Fla. (AP Photo/Brian Blanco)

Will they Ever Fully Click? (Brian Blanco)

Fans keep talking about how awesome this team will be if everything clicks for one game and how they could be unstoppable. If the offense hits on all cylinders, the defense continues it’s excellent progression, special teams is on point, and coaching doesn’t bog down in too much conservatism, it could be a beautiful sight. The Falcons have obviously done some good and great things throughout the season, but rarely have all the phases been hitting at once. It seems each week that one of the phases takes their time off (defense earlier in the season, offense more recently). The Birds know better than anyone how important it is to be hitting the right gear at the right time and there’s still plenty of time, but the window is drawing more narrow as the season hits the final push to the playoffs. If this team can all click in at once, the ultimate goal could truly be in sight.

Bird Cage Stalwarts Turn

1) Simple Bomb – what’s your thoughts on the Falcons road win vs. the Bucs: huge win on the road vs. a streaking team or still making it too hard on themselves?

2) How about Asante Samuel’s gutsy performance. Could it be a rallying point of sorts?

3) Was the stout run defense a blip or sign of good things to come?

4) Will Smith and Koetter ever turn over the keys to Jacquizz Rodgers as the feature back?

5) Is the running back position the main thing holding this offense back from being great?

6) Was the pass rush better overall or more having to do with Josh Freeman’s errors?

7) What’s your thoughts on the defense overall this season, particularly of late?

8.) Is the Falcons defense having to keep the team in the game too much?

9) Has Dunta Robinson improved enough for your liking?

10) What’s going on with the Falcons safeties lately?

11) Time to panic on CB depth just yet?

12) Can the Falcons stop blowing opportunities to get separation on their opponents?

13) Will the Birds ever click into gear all at the same time?

1,178 comments Add your comment

Arno

November 26th, 2012
10:48 am

There were positives. I like this from Alex Marvez: “The gutsy play of Atlanta’s defense was embodied by cornerback Asante Samuel, who continued to play despite a shoulder injury that left him repeatedly bent over in pain for much of the second half.”

He sums up the other positives of the game nicely: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Marvez-Week-12-Rewind-San-Francisco-49ers-Atlanta-Falcons-Denver-Broncos-Separation-Sunday-112512

Shotgun

November 26th, 2012
10:57 am

I’ll wait till you finish the article to go over the game in detail–my thoughts, ect.

Keep up the great work, D3.

Big Ray

November 26th, 2012
10:59 am

Already looking forward to Thursday night. Birds should be out for blood. They ARE out for blood!

Big Ray

November 26th, 2012
11:00 am

Sure hope that Asante Samuel is ok. We do need him, risk-taking and all. He showed some real toughness out there and was THERE when the ball was there. Can’t ask for more than that.

Wings

November 26th, 2012
11:01 am

BR I believe Thursday night will be their dominating GAME!

Paddy O

November 26th, 2012
11:05 am

well, considering we have the best QB in team history, the best WR in team history, and the RB with the most TD’s in team history, we should be a pretty good team. Very happy with our run defense yesterday. Dunta played a good game. Missed Spoon quite a bit. JJ was a beast – that 80 yard TD pass was excellent. Mike Pete made a terrific play preventing a TB score. HOnestly, our D did an excellent job. Biggest problem for us is the unsafe play of DeCoud, and Asante’s injury. I actually saw quite a bit of our rookies out there. Babs had a couple potential tackles for a loss. If we win Thursday, our season will be looking up even more than our record indicates. I was hoping SF would knock Brees out. selah.

Chop Buster

November 26th, 2012
11:07 am

Falcons took care of business and took another step toward wrapping up the NFC south division and gaining homefield advantage. Style points do not matter with Smitty and that percentage sheet he uses for play calling is the reason we win without appearing to dominate. I’m happy they cleaned up the tackling and was able to shut down Tampa’s running game. We know they could do it, they just need to be more consistent with it each week. Sometimes I wonder if Smitty is holding back on attacking teams and saving something for the play offs. There’s always room for improvement, but all we can do is enjoy the wins and hope we have actually changed this year–and not have another let down. Time to take on the Taints this Thursday and I’m looking forward to another beat down after the 49ers tenderized them for the Falcons.

SeminoleWarrior

November 26th, 2012
11:17 am

What’s up Cage Family.

Hope that everyone had a fine holiday weekend. In mourning here as my Noles looked flat out funky against those hated Gators. Will bounce back this week in Charlotte though as we take the ACC title.
Ok, stop laughing all you SEC fans in this family. I know, I know. But it is what it is. And after losses to NC State and Florida that were just painful, the beauty of the trophy and the trip to Miami for New Year’s is just what I need right now.

Now on to the Atlanta Falcons…

I told you when the Bucs hired Schiano that it was going to be a beautiful move in the long term. The team has always had the core talent. It was a college team in need of a leader. They got one in Greg Schiano. There is tremendous upside in Tampa.

Again, back to my Falcons. I am not going to break the game down. What I am going to do is let you know WHO is the number one player on the Cocoa Mel Big Board.

DA BIRDS!

November 26th, 2012
11:18 am

This team is bad for my blood pressure, but they can lock up the NFC South this week. Where are all the Matt Ryan “noodle arm” critics lately?

SeminoleWarrior

November 26th, 2012
11:23 am

The Falcons have three issues that need to be address immediately in the off season. First, they need to make the move to the 3-4 defense. IMHO, it is better suited for the talent we have on the defensive side of the roster.

Second, the OL needs to move towards a totaly ZBS philosophy instead of this 60-40 mix of power versus ZBS.

Lastly, the Falcons MUST, MUST upgrade the rushing attack. And the Cocoa Mel has the man for the Job.

From the staff that brought you draft pick proposals Sean Weatherspoon, Aldon Smith, and Mason Foster, The Tee Pee offer you this:

With the pick in the FIRST round of the 2013 NFL draft, the Falcons MUST, MUST I SAY, MUST take Stanford RB Stepfan Taylor.

Taylor is the complete package. He is not super fast but he is the totaly package. He can hit the hole, he is a fine blocker and receiver, and he is built like a litte tank. If you like what Doug Martin is bring to the Bucs offensive playbook, IMAGINE, IMAGINE what DK could do with the likes of Quizz and Stepfan.

Watch the Cardinal play in the Pac 12 title game and in the bowl game this season if you have not already.

The Cocoa has served notice. TD, I hope you hear me or read this. Stepfan is the man!!

SeminoleWarrior

November 26th, 2012
11:27 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8jwc3NNSZ8

Stepfan Taylor….just watch as the body of work speaks for itself.

Greg Mendel

November 26th, 2012
11:32 am

Cagers: My apologies, but I’m reposting (below) a post I just put on the last blog, because I think it’s relevant to understanding of positive-negative comments, and to Monday mornings in the Cage.
In a way, it’s kind of a fan letter to the Cage:

John Waynesworld:

Good post. My attitude towards yesterday’s game was the same (as well as my enthusiasm for Caesar’s upcoming funeral).

I think most Cagers (including me) are frustrated by a pick-your-poison passing game that isn’t as toxic as we think it should be, and by a drink-your-poison running game that only seems to get worse. The frustration is greatest among those most desperate for post-season success, because they see every regular season weakness pointing to another playoff collapse. I understand their frustration, and can’t dismiss their logic.

I just have a different attitude. I won’t let mistakes overshadow great plays or blame the coaches when the team wins. Especially when the team wins ten of eleven games.

Fact is, we’re all fans. Some more intense than others. I’ve noticed a recurring psychodrama in the Cage — which I enjoy, frankly. During games and immediately after, there’s a lot of teeth-gnashing. But, after a spell, when the intensity and excitement abate, the general mood gets brighter. The sky didn’t fall. Thoughtful, reasoned analysis begins, along with furtive worrying about stuff like gaining home-field advantage for the playoffs.

Home field advantage as concern beats years of praying for any advantage at all. But that’s the fun of the Cage, which sometimes reminds me of an old joke about Puritans:

Long ago in Salem, MA, two Puritans passed on the street. “It’s a glorious morning, Ichabod,” said one. “Aye,” scowled the other, “and we’ll PAY for it!”

rhettt

November 26th, 2012
11:38 am

It is a great day in Dixie when our Falcons are 10-1 and there are still many naysayers. You ould think there would be joy and excitement about the team records our Falcons have been setting in the last five years. Look, no NFL team is perfect. All NFL teams have strengths and weaknesses. Having a steady presence from the head coach, along with teaching a system for success, seperates winners from losers. There is an old saying, it is easier to reach a top position than to maintain a top position. It appears Coach Smith has the winning skills to do both.

Slant Pattern

November 26th, 2012
11:47 am

“Stepfan Taylor….just watch as the body of work speaks for itself.” – SW

Good to see you posting again. Hope things are working towards a positive direction for you. I liked the blitz pick-up and pass blocking I saw in your clip. This clip ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD_ucs2_ve0 ) shows him in action off a checkdown screen. He runs a little high for my tastes but defintely looks like someone to consider.
I am hoping Smitty will allow us to keep “dipping our toe” in a non power running direction to see what we truly have. A full force cannonball into the deep end against the Taints would be even better but I’m not holding my breath lol.

tdawgmom

November 26th, 2012
11:54 am

Truthfully I have also had my moments of being a naysayer. However, I plan to enjoy the rest of the season by understanding that all teams do have their issues. That’s the nature of the game. Wow, the Dawgs in the SEC game this weekend and the Falcons 10-1. What more could you ask for. Can’t wait for the game this Thursday. Falcons have the attitude and parts to win over those righteous Saints. Go Birds.

LRD

November 26th, 2012
11:57 am

A game of the good , bad and ugly.
Ugly.. turning the ball over yet again.. and our D not forcing a turnover. We must force NOLA to turn the ball over on Thursday
Bad: Injuries… and Asante being injured when we will need him this thursday.
Bad: Turner up the middle. Cmon… how many of us were screaming at our TV yesterday?

Good: Ryan with over 300 yds again. Julio starting to look healthy and primed for Thursday.
Good: Dunta having a great game. I just hope he literally doesnt knock himself out with his punishing hits.
Good: our entire D… everyone on the D contributing.
But the biggest Good.. our Run Defense. I stated that I thought we would lose this game due to the fact we have had a hard time stopping the run.. and yet we come out and hold Martin to 50yds. FIFTY YARDS… that is just awesome.. but with the 3 prong running attack of NOLA on Thursday, we need that run D to come into play.

I think we are setting ourselves up for a great game against Nola. After the Tampa game, they have to plot/plan on stopping Quizz around the corners, a healthy Julio making our passing game the threat we all know it should be. Spoon back to help reinforce against the run.
And I think our Team is really starting to jell now as a team. Even with backups in our D playing, it seemed we didnt miss a beat. Good coaching man… good coaching… and strong desire by players.

Happy with the win.. and saving my lungs for screaming on Thursday night. We can put a nail in NOLA and finalize sealing up the NFC South.

af fan

November 26th, 2012
11:59 am

SW,

Agree with your observations, but think the 1st pick should go to defense. A DT or LB will help that 3-4 work.

Sandra

November 26th, 2012
12:02 pm

Thank you Julio and Matt for the win!!!!!!

John Waynesworld

November 26th, 2012
12:06 pm

Good call, SW! Normally I wouldn’t even consider a RB, especially in Round 1, but SW you’ve got a good eye in picking Taylor out of Stanford. I saw him a few times recently and he is in the same line with Ray Rice and that muscle hamster we saw yesterday. They all hit the hole like they have a nitro gear all their own, and you can tell about these guys because it doesn’t look NORMAL. It appears they are gliding and it looks too fast for normal! I remember seeing the same thing with DeAngelo Williams when he was at Memphis. It is fortunate for us over the years that Williams has always been hurt. I totally agree with your pick, SW!! That is of course unless we can get the ND Tight End at the end of the draft (not likely). That would be a no-brainer if TG does retire after this season.

snacktastic

November 26th, 2012
12:19 pm

As cool as ESPN’s Playoff Machine is, Pat Y sure made himself sound like an idiot when hyping it up:

“December is almost upon us and that means it’s not too early to start talking about the playoffs.”

Oh, really? What about all those other months before December? You know, the ones where you couldn’t stop talking about the playoffs?

Kee Kee

November 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

Pat Yaksinkass needs to join “C-VIV” in Winnipeg.

They are both Atlanta hating tools.

Curt

November 26th, 2012
1:22 pm

Yes, the naysayers! Too many close games? If you look at it the other way, just one more yard in New Orleans two weeks ago and we would still be undefeated. Think about it, our only loss was a tight road game, and one yard would have wone the game for us in that one. We’re right where we are supposed to be…..still winning tough games (two more after the tough loss), and we’re not playing great yet. A lot of things to clean up, we’re a little dinged up, but things look great for us. Green Bay, Chicago and even the Niners all still have their issues too. I love our chances in the playoffs this year. We need to continue to utilize Jason Snelling more, he’s just so much more versatile than Turner, and bigger than Quiz. Go Falcons!

Zoomie

November 26th, 2012
1:29 pm

Okay. New blog is up.

It was a pretty well-played game by the Falcons, though the score didn’t show it. I only got pizzed twice during the game, and both times at MR2. 1) Bush-league, second-rate college-level play to stare down your primary receiver from the snap, as Ryan did when he threw the pass to Ronde Barber. Assante’s been on MR2’s booty about that, and it’s high time he starts listening to a man who knows. 2) Since MR2 seemed to miss the flares and smoke signals from the TB DB, telegraphing that he was coming on a corner blitz, I suppose he should just be invited into the offensive huddle next time so he can just tell Matty that he’s coming. That kid was juking and popping for a good ten seconds before he came clean on the blitz. How Ryan missed that call is beyond me. Stupid miss. Disastrous result. Falcons’ D bailed him out.

Okay. I lied. I got pizzed four times. The other two were on the Bryant misses. Should’ve been a 7-point game, and everyone knows it. Bryant has racked up an impressive “Attaboy” column, but his “Oh, sh*ts!” are starting to get some attention. That’s two big misses and one miss that gets attention just because it came on the heels of two big misses. The “Attaboy vs Oh, sh*ts!” analogy was custom-designed to apply to NFL kickers. Just sayin’ Bryant; just sayin’ . . .

Game wasn’t as close as it looked. A health Assante would’ve racked up two INTs. As it was, he still made the plays. Heckuva game for the veteran playing hurt and showing some real leadership.

Asking the Cagers to look back at the last two games and try to start giving some credit: we saw a lot more Quizz and Snelling in the last two games. In the AZ game, it looked like they were still working out some kinks. Against the Bucs, it looked like they’re getting good at making space on the edge and getting the Quizz and Snell out in space. Please be honest about what you saw, folks: Turner spent a lot of time watching the game yesterday.

Got no pressure from the D front. Not a failure, in my opinion, have to give credit to TB’s O-line. They managed to contain 55 and 71 got knocked around like a rag doll. When you sell out to stop the run, the blitz packages are limited, so I’m not too upset with a lack of pressure on the QB. Looks like the Falcons took in a game plan to force Freeman to beat them with his arm, and he couldn’t do it.

The Falcons outplayed and outlasted a team that’s quickly garnered a reputation of being physical. Beat ‘em on the road, in their stadium. factor in the two missed turnovers and the missed FGs, and the game wasn’t as close as the score seemed to indicate. Good game by the Falcons overall.

Oh yeah, terrible clock/score management at the end of the first half. I hope Smitty learned something from it.

Zoomie

November 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

Aargh! I’ve been Blog Monstered!

Big Ray

November 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

Not gonna bother getting into the “who is too negative” conversation. Waste of time every time….and I see that now.

Ok, so New Orleans knows our tendencies and we know theirs. Who enforces their will more? Who adjusts to the opposing schemes better? Those are the questions.

Being fully healthy will also make a difference. Of course, I’m not convinced we’ll be fully healthy. Need Dunta and Asante to recover from injuries. I think Dunta will be good to go. Asante….I’m not sure a short week will help him.

Nookah

November 26th, 2012
1:33 pm

Greetings Cagers!!

I’ll repeat what I posted in a previous blog – we’ll continue to get no respect from the national media until we win the big one and even after we win the big one, expect to hear all kinds of reasons why our opponents lost and not why we won. We need to remind ourselves that in the media’s eyes, ATL will continue to be “loosersville” until we win a SB. All they are doing is playing the odds and it favours our not winning a SB. No analyst, bar none, will be brave enough to come out and say that our Falcons are SB bound. Even some of our same Cagers here are naysayers and timid instead of going all in. However, a history of losing will do that to you especially if you have been around through the bad years. As far as I am concerned, you are a fan or you are not a fan. As a fan I can criticize my team and be blindly optimistic because I choose to do so because that’s what fans do. But it’s a new day dawning Falcon fans.

79 yards of rushing offence? Anemic if you ask me, but we got the job done. More importantly 50 yards rushing for the opposition? Pretty remarkable after you meet a hot team on the road that was 10th in the league in rushing offence and hold them to 39% of their average up to yesterday (128.9 yds/game). Now they are down to 121.7 yards/game and especially when you are at the bottom or near bottom of the league in stopping the run. Clearly, kudos to the coaching staff for making the necessary adjustments but what of the rushing offensive adjustments? Without doubt we have work to do.

I really don’t care how we win as long as we do. Am I concerned about our weaknesses? Absolutely, as a football fan I am but as a Falcon fan I only want to use the Al Davis moniker, “just win baby” and for 10 times this year that’s what we have done.
10-1, that’s all that matters this week. Now on to the Saints in our house and with a score to settle and a chip on our shoulder. Regardless of the individual records of both teams, it’s always a dogfight and I expect nothing less this Thursday. That also goes for Tampa Bay by the way and this division is becoming a very competitive one.

I am a little concerned though that the Saints are in our proverbial heads(my opinion). I think they always think they can beat us and we seem to be always too cautious against them. I say open the playbook and let MR2 run things. Screen pass them to death and execute with reckless abandon. What do we have to lose? Stop the tiptoeing at 3rd & short and use all WMD at our disposal. We have an opportunity this Thursday to drive another nail in the ‘Aints coffin (49ers put one in yesterday), now we need to finish the job and help eliminate a dangerous opponent not only for the sake of winning the division, because we already have that sewn up, but also helping to eliminate an opponent who could potentially be our Achilles heel in the playoffs.

Go Falcons!!!

Big Ray

November 26th, 2012
1:35 pm

Seminole Warrior ,

Don’t hear enough from you these days, but that’s the way it is sometimes. Hope all is well or at least getting better for you.

Nice post on drafting strategy…but I have to say you have taken me by surprise. Of course, I haven’t heard your full tilt (the rest of the draft)…which will be VERY entertaining at the least.

D3

November 26th, 2012
1:39 pm

Zoomie — Post is out.

Shotgun

November 26th, 2012
1:54 pm

Big Ray

Don’t forget that the Saints have Sproles this time. Glad the ATL LBs will be at full strength.

ROLL BIRDS ROLL

November 26th, 2012
1:59 pm

Anyone watching Monday Night Football tonight? It’s being billed as The Race to the Bottom! I’m cheering against $cam since he’s such an arrogant hot dog.

snacktastic

November 26th, 2012
2:04 pm

@ROLL: It would have been Underacheiving Mobile QB vs. Underachieving Mobile QB, but now it’s just Underachieving Mobile QB vs. Underwhelming Rookie QB. Panthers will probably win, not that it’ll get Cam out of his slump.

Shotgun

November 26th, 2012
2:07 pm

Zoomie

I agree with the first criticism of Matt Ryan with staring down the receivers and his lack of moving the safeties/LBs with pump fakes, yet you need to give Barber a ton of credit from leaving his cut man and jumping Roddy’s route(which was perfectly thrown to him).

Second one is a knee-jerk, coaching-armchair reaction I have EVER read. If you paid attention to the play, the DB moved over his coverage in the last minute. If Matt was in the shotgun(cough, cough), instead of under center, he would of easily seen it coming. Easy for us to say Matt should of saw it, but why was he under center in the first place?

It was just a great disguise and defensive counter. It happens.

Wabe

November 26th, 2012
3:19 pm

Only been a couple weeks since we last met the Saints…

The potential difference makers this time around:

a) stopping Mark Ingram, Chris Ivory, and Darren Sproles in the run game
b) having a better gameplan to cover Jimmy Graham
c) getting Quizz more looks in the offensive gameplan

I think we have to play the run better and we have to have a better plan for Jimmy Graham. It’ll be tougher this time around defensively because they have the added threat of Darren Sproles. But then again, we have our defensive leader Spoon back in the mix. Regardless of whose back and whose not, the Falcons will have to play the run better than they did @ NOLA. Gotta make the Saints one-dimensional.

snacktastic

November 26th, 2012
3:32 pm

It’ll be interesting to see the impact Spoon has on the game, given that he watched the first matchup from the sidelines. It was definitely great to have him back yesterday.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 26th, 2012
3:48 pm

Travian Robertson played 16 defensive snaps against the Bucs, Might be the beginning of the end for Jerry.

Big Ray

November 26th, 2012
3:54 pm

Shotgun – true. Sproles is a threat. But not one we can’t contain. I too am glad Spoon will be around for this one.

Arno

November 26th, 2012
3:55 pm

snacktastic — “It’ll be interesting to see the impact Spoon has on the game”

Vitt talks about Thursday: “This is not going to be a game about scheme. It will be abouit execution and physicality.”

Big Ray

November 26th, 2012
3:55 pm

Seminole Warrior ,

Interesting that you didn’t bother with breaking this last game down. Tired of the same ol’, same ol’?

;)

Big Ray

November 26th, 2012
3:56 pm

Arno,

Vitt is telling the truth. May as well say “who wants it more” while he’s at it.

That’s why they say the first game is about finding out about the other team. The rematch is always about the fundamentals and who wants it most.

The Time is NOW

November 26th, 2012
3:58 pm

D3 – Great job getting the post out so quickly! Thanks, man. You ought to get a raise for that… Oh, wait, nothing times nothing… Thanks again.

The Time is NOW

November 26th, 2012
4:16 pm

Gotta close out some thoughts from this morning on the Cardinals game blog posts.

TRUTH – You got another witness. The OL manned up yesterday. I enjoyed your posts (9:16 am ff).

Kudos also to JWW (9:30 am), Wings (10:14 am), and especially Greg Mendel (11:18 am). Couldn’t agree more, Greg. I actually hate that your post was the last one on the old subject, rather than the first one on here. Such is life. Back later if I can.

Greg Mendel

November 26th, 2012
4:18 pm

The Aints always worry me. Not all of them, just Brees. Say what you will about him, but he’s a baller, and talented. Ryan is in the same mold, but younger.

It’s become almost impossible to think about the Aints without thinking about their relentless blog trolls. When they aren’t rub-your-nose-in-it arrogant after wins, they have an infinite list of excuses for losing. Which brings up another subject: Sports media and the Falcons.

Anyone — ANYONE — who thinks the national sports media will praise the Falcons in our lifetimes is delusional. If we get to the next Super Bowl, it will be a “fluke.” If we win it, that will be another fluke (and all about how the other team’s loss was a fluke). If the Falcons win four SBs in a row, they’ll all be flukes. Maybe our team needs a name-change.

Regardless, the Aints trolls will still be yammering about that ring they got way back when.

Lordy, I hate the Aints!

The Time is NOW

November 26th, 2012
4:49 pm

Greg Mendel – glad to see you reposted at 11:32!

The Time is NOW

November 26th, 2012
5:11 pm

Zoomie – great post (1:29 pm).

The Time is NOW

November 26th, 2012
5:13 pm

Just dodgin’ in and out here.

Big Ray – you are right about Asante. Gotta hope the long week after Thursday will help. We need his ball hawking skills in the playoffs!

The Time is NOW

November 26th, 2012
5:16 pm

Nookah (1:33 pm) – Good post.

LRD

November 26th, 2012
5:27 pm

If you all have time.. this is a very good read on one of our LBs on the practice squad http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/magazine/the-hard-life-of-an-nfl-long-shot.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=todayspaper

Birdman

November 26th, 2012
5:34 pm

Great road win . Game ball goes to Ryan and Jones . They can split it

SW … It;s good to see you back in the Cage. I hope things with you and your family are getting a little better and your hearts are at least starting to heal some. God bless you brother.

Thursday Game . The game will be a big one for the Saints almost a must win But our Birds should be on fire to beat them this time around. To me this is a practice play off game for the Falcons and they should play it that way .

Concerns about Samuel for the game ?

Cage I hope you all a Blessed and great week

Birdman

November 26th, 2012
5:38 pm

On another note . GO DAWGS . Swim threw the Tide

russ7000

November 26th, 2012
5:44 pm

Birdman

November 26th, 2012
5:45 pm

With Spoon back this week the Falcons should be able to slow down Graham

Ken Strickland

November 26th, 2012
5:47 pm

This gm was as close as it was due to Bryant missing 2 makeable FGs and ASamuel’s inability to make 2 INTs he’d normally make if not for his shoulder issues. This team is 10-1 even though
1-We’re on our 3rd starting FG,
2-We’re minus our best CB(BGrimes),
3-one CB(ASamuel) is playing with an injured wing,
4-We’re relying heavily on an UFA CB(McClain)
5-2 of our 3 top DTs have been injured
6-Our best LB has missed significant time
7-Our rushing OFF has been MIA
8-Our #2 WR(JJones)has been playing hurt
9-We’ve been saddled with the same short yardage approach we’ve had in the past with the same negative results.

John Waynesworld

November 26th, 2012
5:52 pm

Wabe, so right about corraling Graham. He and Chris Ivory have to be on top of the list.

There is apparently a Right Tackle issue with their 3rd stringer (whoever was the RT yesterday) so that could give our 4 man pass rush a boost.

Big Ray, I agree with you about #22. Asante needs a couple weeks off to fix that shoulder, however he may be better in the nickel with one arm that we have on the bench with two, after McClain of course. Pain killers and heavy tape is my guess as this game is too important. They can rest Asante for 17 days until the Giants game after this one.

DHunt

November 26th, 2012
6:24 pm

Is there a more gutsy team in the NFL right now than the Falcons? I know the offense has been somewhat stagnant on occasion and particularly in the redzone. But I’m willing to chalk that up to playing down to opponents in most cases.

It’s funny that the thing that most people see as a problem is what really gives me a lot of hope about what this team can do. When it really matters, the defense gets really formidable. After a turnover, they put in work and usually stand their ground. They may give up a big play or two, and still inexplicably get stung on third and long, but they just don’t get consistently abused by anyone. The offense can look pedestrian for long stretches, but if you put them in a situation where they have to get it done, they almost always get it done. And it’s not just one guy. The entire team tends to step it up when it matters. Whenever the Falcons get behind, they finally know how to throw the machine into overdrive.

We fans want them in overdrive 60 minutes every week. That’s not an unreasonable request, especially considering the horses they have under that hood. But maybe you can’t run the engine redline all the time. Maybe you save that nitro boost for when the race is on the line. I get the feeling this team will ramp it up in the playoffs, and show off the true power and grace and only an attacking Falcon can produce.

This week against the Saints would be a most excellent time to get a really good test run of that unstoppable force we know they have lurking in the wings.

Ken

November 26th, 2012
6:43 pm

if the giants or the packers was grinding out all there games…….they would get mad praise for finding ways to still get wins. This is a new season the falcons are 10:1 and in feb. the football nation will be dirtybirding…………..

Wabe

November 26th, 2012
6:55 pm

The only reason folks don’t question those other teams [Giants/Packers] the way they question Atlanta is because folks have seen how high their ceilings are. For those teams, it’s just a matter of whether they can be playing their best ball at the right time.

For Atlanta, there’s a legitimate question regarding how high the ceiling of this team is. They haven’t really shown it at any point this season. Teams like the Giants may have bad losses, but when you go to SF and beat down the Niners or beat down the Packers the way they did last night, it puts any questions of whether you’re ‘good enough’ to rest. Folks know they’re good enough, but will they be playing that way when it counts most.

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Wabe

November 26th, 2012
6:58 pm

For the Falcons now, it’s about gradually getting better week by week. That’s it.

That talking heads have been talking all season, and will continue to talk through the remainder of the season going into the postseason. We know the talent is here, but can we put the whole thing together is something that is yet to be seen.

Gradually get better, and then come out playing your best ball in January.

Wings

November 26th, 2012
7:14 pm

JWW that shoulder probably really hurts. It looked as though it hurt each time he raised or stretched his arm out.

I injured my rotator cuff over a period of time using a gas echo string trimmer about two months ago. It was and still is the most painful thing I have ever experienced. It hurt more than a broken leg when I fell out my front door because of my cat after a Falcons game in 2009.

By the way I had therapy at the Atlanta Falcons Physical Therapy location in Marietta for the rotator cuff injury. It is a class place and had autographed balls and jerseys by Ryan, White, and Turner plus other stuff. Arthur Blank owns all of them. One patient there with a shoulder problem was “Ernesto” of the Harlem Globetrotters; he played with Medowlark Lemon.

Arno

November 26th, 2012
7:33 pm

LRD — enjoyed that read! Thanks.

JB Falcon

November 26th, 2012
8:20 pm

Wings, if a cat comes to your door selling string trimmers, slam the door in his face and run!

The Time is NOW!

November 26th, 2012
9:46 pm

DHunt (6:24) – Great post! I hope you’re right. Otherwise, we’ll both have crow to eat.

The Time is NOW

November 26th, 2012
9:49 pm

WABE (6:25) – excellent observation.

falcon21

November 26th, 2012
9:50 pm

Wow, kinda slow in the Cage tonight. I guess everyone has another close game hangover. All in all it was a good win against a good team.

The Time is NOW

November 26th, 2012
9:51 pm

Love the cat story Wings!

D3

November 26th, 2012
9:58 pm

Alright Gang, rest of the post is finally up. Simply refresh and have a gander or hit the same link…..

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-fans/2012/11/26/atlanta-falcons-birds-grind-out-tough-win-vs-bucs/

Headed to bed and will catch up with you cats later.

Nite ‘all!

D3

November 26th, 2012
10:01 pm

Before I hit the pillow, here’s the Cage’s questions………..

1) Simple Bomb – what’s your thoughts on the Falcons road win vs. the Bucs: huge win on the road vs. a streaking team or still making it too hard on themselves?

2) How about Asante Samuel’s gutsy performance. Could it be a rallying point of sorts?

3) Was the stout run defense a blip or sign of good things to come?

4) Will Smith and Koetter ever turn over the keys to Jacquizz Rodgers as the feature back?

5) Is the running back position the main thing holding this offense back from being great?

6) Was the pass rush better overall or more having to do with Josh Freeman’s errors?

7) What’s your thoughts on the defense overall this season, particularly of late?

8.) Is the Falcons defense having to keep the team in the game too much?

9) Has Dunta Robinson improved enough for your liking?

10) What’s going on with the Falcons safeties lately?

11) Time to panic on CB depth just yet?

12) Can the Falcons stop blowing opportunities to get separation on their opponents?

13) Will the Birds ever click into gear all at the same time?

Zoomie

November 26th, 2012
10:09 pm

“Second one is a knee-jerk, coaching-armchair reaction I have EVER read.” — Shotgun ( I interpret this as ” Second one is the biggest [or one of the biggest] knee-jerk, armchair-coaching reactions I have EVER read.”)

I’m guessing you must not read much beyond this forum and skip a large population of the posts when you do read here.

“If you paid attention to the play, the DB moved over his coverage in the last minute.” The one I was “paying attention” to had two blitzers rolling in on the O’s right side from the first second the Falcons lined up out of the huddle.

“If Matt was in the shotgun(cough, cough), instead of under center, he would of easily seen it coming.” Right. which makes it all that much more confusing, since MR2 WAS lined up in shotgun with Quizz (his backfield protection) lined up to his left side (maybe you should get that cough checked out, because it may be causing you to miss key tactical developments in the game.)

“Easy for us to say Matt should of saw it, but why was he under center in the first place?” Matt Ryan wasn’t under center, he was standing straight and vertical in the shotgun formation in perfect position to read the overload on the right side, and he should’ve moved Quizz in protection after reading the defense. That’s how an aware, experienced, and seasoned elite NFL QB would’ve called that protection.

“It was just a great disguise and defensive counter. It happens.” Wrong. It was a blitz that wasn’t disguised AT ALL, and Matt Ryan completely missed and messed up the protection call. All on him 100%, no excuses. It’s fine in the sense that he’s the one who’s going to bear the brunt of the hit when he makes such a basic mistake, but it also caused a turnover, which could’ve very well cost the game.

MR2 is, on balance, the best QB Atlanta’s ever had. That doesn’t mean he’s infallible. I’m concerned when I see a fifth-year starter making mistakes that should’ve been coached out of him at the college level. Both examples I listed are EXACTLY that. He locked in on a primary receiver and led a veteran DB directly into an interception, and he lost focus and made a bone-headed protection call, which resulted in a free blitzer and a turnover.

If MR2 is half the QB most of The Cagers seem to think he is, he’d agree 100% with my critique of his play. Nuthangers never help anyone improve. As has been written many times on this forum: Atlanta will go only as far as MR2 takes them. He won’t take them anywhere at the rate he’s turning over the ball. Love the guy, but facts is facts.

( For those with a DVR that are trying to follow along, the disputed play is approximately 11:32 of the 4th.)

falcon21

November 26th, 2012
10:57 pm

57 plays on offense with only 1 to question, not bad.

Creaky

November 26th, 2012
11:09 pm

Turner was good, not the answer anymore.

BobbyDawg

November 26th, 2012
11:27 pm

Sounds like pole cat to me.

The Time is NOW

November 26th, 2012
11:37 pm

Another great article, D3!

One thought. Maybe Turner, with his size, is still a better blocker in the max protect backfield than Quizz. If so, it would be foolish to only use Turner in that situation because the defense would know what was coming. I think the coaching staff is still trying to figure out the best way to use the personnel available at RB. Obviously, they are increasing the amount of time Quizz is in the backfield. He was in on over half of the offensive plays.

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Shotgun

November 27th, 2012
2:40 am

Zoomie

I owe you an apology. I was thinking about a completely different play and mixed it with the fumble one. Though, the first blitzed was covered by the lineman and the other CB was disguised as lining up for man on man, yet went for Matt after the ball was snapped. That’s probably why he never moved Quizz over.

It seems it was set up to be a left progression pass, so Matt never looked to his right.

But, yeah, Matt completely missed it. He doesn’t make mistakes like that often, though. As for the interception, I agree.

darrell starks

November 27th, 2012
6:54 am

Quizz should be starting.

He is a better blocker than Turner plus he create his own hole, the OL is not build for Turner anymore, you have no more Harvey Dahl and Ovie Mughelli whom both created a path for Turner giving him a straight up the middle path 2 run.

Now it’s time 2 move on and starte Quizz who create his own hole when nothing there plus making this offense more explosive 2 be able starte blowing teams off the field, Turner is slowing the Falcons down making it a more slow and grind type offense causing the games to be close with barely winning games at end and media and everybody is calling the Falcons a lucky team with no respect across the board.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zoomie

November 27th, 2012
7:01 am

You’re cool, Shotgun. I usually don’t rewatch the game until Tuesdays, but last night’s Monday night game between the Panthers and the Eagles was akin to watching a squirrel fight. Yeah, there’s some momentary action where some dust is raised, but in the end, they both run off without the nut.

After maligning the O-line and Turner for basically 11 games, I have to give credit where it’s due. It seems DK has quit trying to swim upstream and is playing to the strengths of his players. A lot more Quizz and Snelling hitting creases and catching tosses/short passes on the move, and a lot less asking the O-line to hold open garage doors for Turner. The nice thing is, this has the potential to make Turner more effective when he is in the game.

I think MR2 is still playing a little tight, with the constant adjustments to the offensive attack. After all, the lack of a running game has put enormous pressure on him to execute. We’ve all seen how brilliantly he can play when he’s on, the CS needs to find a way to help keep him in that zone. giving him a reliable run weapon will do just that.

I think this goes back to what Roddy White was saying at the beginning of the year regarding “identity.” The breakdown of any semblance of running game has fractured that identity a bit and put too much responsibility on a few key play-makers. With the return of an effective run game, the team identity can be further solidified, everyone can become more comfortable and experienced in their expected roles, and they can loosen up a little and play ball.

If the O can consistently run the ball to go along with their murderous passing game, and if the D can continue to be effectively tweaked for each opponent, I think the Falcons can beat every other team out there.

A lot of folks saw another squeaker on Sunday. I saw a team that adjusted for weaknesses and became even more dangerous. Hopefully, they can keep it up.

(But the season will be a total loss if Atlanta loses to those damnable swamp rats again on Thursday!)

darrell starks

November 27th, 2012
7:03 am

Cliff Mathews and Travian Robertson need be on the field a lot more.

Travian was getting double team on line and still held his ground on shortyardge plays, this along tells you how strong he is in the middle, Cliff is just a sleeper waiting to happen but just need more snaps to prove him self to be a beast at DE.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 27th, 2012
7:10 am

Please sit down Asanta Samuel he need atleast 2weeks off, let his arm heal a little before come playoffs, Falcons must have a healthy Samuel come playoffs time.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 27th, 2012
7:23 am

Falcons need go out with a full throttle and blow Saints off the field to shut the media up for call this team lucky im tired of hearing that word luck.

Falcons and Ice man should go fully with no hudle offense and just score at will specially when playing at home, playing on the road could be a little different with crowd noise but at home there is no excuse for Falcons not go with the no huddle offense the full game.

I believe coach Smith is scared to play aggressive on both side of the ball specially on defense, the Falcons should Blitz the Saints atleast 70percent more not just this game but every game, starte playing more aggressive and blow teams out.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chop Buster

November 27th, 2012
7:32 am

1) Falcons are just making things more difficult than they need to be. They got the win and that’s always good, but we keep squeaking by teams and IMO many of them aren’t that good.

2) Asante showed a lot of moxie playing with virtually one arm. He even placed himself in position to still get two picks. I hope that the others in the secondary (besides Dunta & McClain) sees Asante’s unselfless play and it motivates them to step up their play.

3) The Falcons defense has always had the ability to shut down the opponents running game–they’ve done it in the past. They get lazy and sloppy at times and it’s just a matter of remaining disciplined.

4) Smith drives this bus and he seems to be too loyal to his veterans. It’s an old school mentality that is outdated. Your job is to put the BEST players on the field who give you the BEST opportunity to win. I believe we may be seeing signs that he is willing to give Jacquizz more playing time over the past couple of games.

5) Running back is just a small part of the overall equation for our offense’s success. We need to use more spread offenses and run out of that formation and attack teams with four receivers on the field more. Matt needs to be in shotgun more and Koetter needs to make immediate in-game adjustments when things aren’t going well (no-huddle, play action, roll out of the pocket when passes being batted down).

6) Pass rush as better as the game went on and TB’s OL probably tired. We have to bring more disguised blitzes as we did with Dunta off the edge. Our front four has got to get more push up the middle–especially against Brees. I’m thinking Nolan has got a definite strategy of attacking Brees this time around.

7) Defense has overachieved this year due to Nolan’s schemes. We are still missing a stud NT and MLB. I’d like to see us go to a 3-4 with the guys we potentially have at LB. Still need to get the safety position solidified. I see other safety tandems with speed, coverage and hitting ability. Willie Mo and Decoud lack speed and both struggle in coverage. They use to bring the wood, but have went MIA lately. Someone needs to have a heart-to-heart with these guys to pickup their play.

8) Because of Smitty’s philosophy of not running the score up on opponents and milking the clock after getting a lead, it causes the defense to have to step up more to stop opponents from coming back. When our defense fills in some of the missing pieces I think they can place more of the load on them in games–but with this bunch you don’t know who’s going to show up from week to week.

9) Falcons need to try Dunta in Decoud’s position next year and bring in another CB to play the right side. Dunta’s excelling in Nolan’s defense because he gives him the freedom to make plays.

10) As I mentioned earlier, safeties are slow to cover and slow to light up our opponent. Problem is our safeties seem to have issues covering over the top and they’re watching the QB too much.

11) We are stuck with CB depth we have. It’s not going to change this season and they’re going to play guys that we know are shaky. I hope our starters are able to recover from injuries and stay healthy the remainder of the season.

12) Opportunities to get separation is in every game. For some reason we just don’t attack the entire game like the way we start the game. Why do we let up? That’s the question that needs answered.

13) Coaches have to come up with a game plan that will help our guy’s confidence on both sides of the ball and tell them to not let up for four quarters. They (coaches) have to stay on the guys during the game when you see guys standing around and not gang tackling or receivers running routes in the same areas. We all know we have too much talent on this team that is not being taken advantage of ALL THE TIME. We will see something once only to never see it again. It does seem like this coaching staff is experimenting at times.

Wings

November 27th, 2012
7:42 am

Zoomie at 7:01am – A really good post.

I would add one thing:
…..and a lot less asking the O-line to hold open garage doors (WITHOUT SPRINGS) for Turner.

Wings

November 27th, 2012
7:50 am

Chop Buster – “13) Coaches have to come up with a game plan that will help our guy’s confidence on both sides of the ball and tell them to not let up for four quarters.”

I don’t have any facts to back this up but I saw this long list of injuries and it occurred to me playing in a less than all out mode and the conservative Smitty mode subjects the players to situations where injuries happen:

Wide receiver Harry Douglas (ankle), safety Charles Mitchell (calf), linebacker Stephen Nicholas (knee), tackle Sam Baker (groin), wide receiver Kevin Cone (groin), tight end Michael Palmer (back), defensive tackle Vance Walker (ribs) and linebacker Sean Weatherspoon (ankle) were all limited in practice.

Chop Buster

November 27th, 2012
8:01 am

Wings (7:50): “I don’t have any facts to back this up but I saw this long list of injuries and it occurred to me playing in a less than all out mode and the conservative Smitty mode subjects the players to situations where injuries happen:”

I agree not going all out does subject our guys to injuries. Also, it’s like the CS forgets all the things that were successful against the Taints and doesn’t include them in the game plan.

Ryan and HD ate up the Taints last year only to go back to handing the ball off to Turner. It’s like our coaching staff kills the team’s momentum. It’s crazy.

Wings

November 27th, 2012
8:02 am

JB Falcon – “Wings, if a cat comes to your door selling string trimmers, slam the door in his face and run!”

Maybe you can add to the funny line. I didn’t mention I was string trimming my pet Peking duck’s pen (Moby Duck) with netting over it and I had to hold the trimmer out from my body creating a strain. The netting was there because a big hawk had killed the duck’s mate Big Tex. The cat’s name is BIgBoy and weighs about 19 pounds. My other cat is named Elvis as your dog.

John Waynesworld

November 27th, 2012
8:36 am

I was watching this interview yesterday with Michael Turner and at the end he was asked about his thoughts on the Sain’ts team that they were about play in 3 days on the NFL Network.

Michael simply said, “We play them in 3 days.” Twice.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-around-the-league/0ap2000000101380/Turner-We-re-more-determined-this-year

My take: Everyone on this team is so HOT for this game they don’t even want to talk about it. The guys are slow boiling this one in their guts over the next few days.

Thursday’s forecast…100% CHANCE OF PAIN.

Ken Strickland

November 27th, 2012
9:05 am

FAILCANTS-You might as well get use to the fact that there will be a lot of down yrs the AINTS/TAINTS/CAINTS future. It’s going to take a lot of time, effort, money and draft picks to reconstruct that SORRIER THAN SORRY DEF.

It’s also going to take a lot of the same to repair that OFF, especially the OL, which is starting to show leaks. You’re entire season rests on beating the Falcons. If you lose, it’s over. If you win, it merely allows you to maintain a sliver of hope.

I really like the way we came out and tried to establish the run despite our issue with running the ball and us going up against one of the NFL best rushing DEFs. Based on the results, it’s about time for Smitty to get his head out of his anus and his grubby hands off the OFF and start running JRogers more and further limiting MTurner’s rushes. He just has to get beyond his BIG RB syndrome.

Speed, quickness, and agility are what’s needed at this point. Turner is taking too long to get to the hole and the entire DL and LBs seem to be able to read and react before he can get out of the backfield in far too many instances. JRogers is always moving forward and gaining that extra yd, no matter where he’s running, while Turner seems to go down on contact without much resistence.

One thing I did notice on Turner’s TD run. The play was obviously designed to go off LT, which meant Turner didn’t have to read any blocks or hesitate. As a result, he blasted out of the backfield and hit that slant with authority, and nobody came close to stopping him.

Unca' Bob

November 27th, 2012
9:12 am

I know some in here have seen this before, so sorry for the repeat. Please note the percentage of Rodgers-v- Turner.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/11/26/falcons-playing-time-percentage-chart-vs-buccaneers/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_falcons_blog

Wings

November 27th, 2012
9:13 am

Ken S AGREE!! That Turner play was the same one he ran for nine yards earlier in the game. He doesn’t have time to think now at his speed.

snacktastic

November 27th, 2012
10:27 am

Momentum is on our side this week. The Birds grab a tough win against a streaking team, and the Aints get roughed up in their own house.

No mistakes this time. We will BURY THE AINTS.

Arno

November 27th, 2012
11:14 am

“The guys are slow boiling” — JW 8:36

I think Roddy is “slow boiling” over those two perfectly thrown deep misses in consecutive games– especially after Julio snagged his for an 80 yd TD. Those guys are good for each other.

Geo

November 27th, 2012
11:20 am

Rosenthal on five throws that defined week 12: “Deep accuracy used to be a question mark for Atlanta Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan. Now it seems like a speciality. The ball comes out of his hand so fast here, and Julio Jones runs it down. Ryan bounced back from his interception barrage with a very nice performance in Tampa to get the Falcons to 10-1. ”

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000101480/article/jay-cutler-ryan-tannehill-had-key-throws-in-week-12

Ain’t it the truth. Although I think Ryan’s stuggles with the deep ball were blown out of proportion in years past, the improvement in that part of his game is remarkable this year. Absolutely one of the key reasons we are 10-1. I have also been impressed with better pocket presence and mobility this year. He worked on those things in the off season and the results speak for themselves (which is the way Matt likes it). Kudos Matty!

Big Ray

November 27th, 2012
11:58 am

MR2 is, on balance, the best QB Atlanta’s ever had. That doesn’t mean he’s infallible. I’m concerned when I see a fifth-year starter making mistakes that should’ve been coached out of him at the college level. Both examples I listed are EXACTLY that. He locked in on a primary receiver and led a veteran DB directly into an interception, and he lost focus and made a bone-headed protection call, which resulted in a free blitzer and a turnover.

If MR2 is half the QB most of The Cagers seem to think he is, he’d agree 100% with my critique of his play. Nuthangers never help anyone improve. As has been written many times on this forum: Atlanta will go only as far as MR2 takes them. He won’t take them anywhere at the rate he’s turning over the ball. Love the guy, but facts is facts.

1) I am quite certain that Matt Ryan is a bigger critic of himself than any fan/blogger could ever hope to be. No matter how well we critique from our collective armchairs (having not played an NFL snap ourselves).

2) If Ryan is paying any attention to this blog, then he’s not a franchise QB. Therefore, nothing said by either naysayers nor “nuthangers” has any effect on Ryan’s performance. Essentially, all nuthanging and naysaying effects and/or benefits fans/bloggers…and nobody else. What Ryan is has nothing to do with what anybody in this forum thinks. Nothing.

3) Ryan has had two games where he’s had critical turnovers. A pattern? Possibly. But if making a mistakes in a QB’s 5th year is cause for alarm, then Broncos fans (and their GM John Elway) should have thrown in the towel in the first quarter of the game we played them in. A sure HOF guy named Peyton Manning got picked off by our defense 3 times in that quarter. Hmmmm. I’ve watched Drew Brees and Eli Manning miss protection calls and throw picks this year.

My point is not to hang from Mr. Ice’s testes. It’s to point out that there is still a learning curve, yes even in the 5th year. Especially when your 5th year is the first time you’re actually allowed to air it out and take ownership of what happens. The four years prior it’s been a little no huddle here, a little no huddle there…and only in spurts. And really, that wasn’t even apparent until LAST year.

Ryan is definitely fallible. But he won’t go from “leaning on Turner for 22+ carries per game” to “throwing 40 passes per game” without some bumps along the way. It’s guaranteed.

You’d think those “issues” were coached out of him a long time ago, but then you have to look really hard at the coaching he’s been receiving since he got here. Just how QB friendly was it? Seemed rather scripted to me…but what do I know…

Geo

November 27th, 2012
12:01 pm

Falcons-Bucs on NFL Replay tonight at 8, followed by Niners-Saints.

Big Ray

November 27th, 2012
12:01 pm

I think the issue is very alarming if Ryan continues to make mistakes (and the same ones) over and over. There is such a thing as having bad games.

I highly doubt that Ryan doesn’t take full credit for his problems. Something tells me that even while the AJC has a hard time getting good quotes and what not….he owns up to himself, his coaches, and his teammates and has their full support.

I think we all know what it looks like when a QB does NOT do that. Jets and Eagles are teams that come to mind.

Big Ray

November 27th, 2012
12:02 pm

Eli Manning STILL isn’t infallible. Nor is Aaron Rodgers. Ah, but both have rings, which means that they can make mistakes and people let it go.

Paddy O

November 27th, 2012
12:35 pm

I thought this was a big, must win game for us to prevent some “pretenders” from beginning to think they had a shot. Bryant is now a bit of a question mark. If we defeat NO in the dome, we can skate the rest of the year – work on some things. Get our guys healthy. We are a very, very good team. Until we win in the post-season, we are still perceived as pretenders – as we are excellent in the regular season and fall flat in crunch time. This team has the talent. Can the coaches rise up?

Wings

November 27th, 2012
12:35 pm

af fan

November 27th, 2012
12:39 pm

MR2’s demonstrated performance this year is the type performance that wins SuperBowls.

Don’t hear him refered to as “noodle arm” anymore.

And his performance in Philadelphia, ended the #7-#2 discussion.

The Falcons are fortunate to have a quarterback of his talent and determination.

Not being a homer. That’s just reality.

af fan

November 27th, 2012
12:52 pm

MR2’s performance this year is the type performance that wins super bowls.

Don’t hear him referred to as “noodle arm” anymore.

His performance in Philadelphia, put an end to the #7 – #2 discussion.

The Falcons are fortunate to have a quarterback with his talent and determination.

Not being a homer, that’s just reality.

Ken Strickland

November 27th, 2012
12:52 pm

SEMINOLE WARRIOR-Welcome back to the CAGE after a much noticed absence. I hope everything is going well with you and yours. If I didn’t know better, I’d swear you were describing JRogers instead of Taylor. I’ve mentioned it a few time in the distant past that I’d love to see us go back to the days when we employed 2 RBs instead of a blocking FB and 1 RB.

I think a backfield of Snelling and Rogers would be as effective as the LCain/WAndrews backfield of old. Their running, receiving and blocking ability would give DEFs a helluva lot to worry about, and every DEF would have to assign a LB and/or safety to account for both. That would automatically eliminate 2 potential blitzers, or defenders that must be blocked. it also give Ryan an additional receiving option.

The Time is NOW

November 27th, 2012
12:55 pm

Paddy O – Spot on!

The Time is NOW

November 27th, 2012
12:58 pm

Ken S. – Good point. I was hoping for/expecting the same. The coaches seem to have a different plan. They know they will be judged by their success or failure in the playoffs, so we’ll just have to wait and see what January (and beyond) brings.

Ken Strickland

November 27th, 2012
1:15 pm

THE TIME IS NOW-when a blocking FB approaches the line no one reacts to him other than the player he’s trying to block. Actually, it really tells the DEF where the RB is likely to run. If Snelling was the FB, an inside fake would immediately draw attention without pin pointing where the RB is likely headed.

A split backfield usually places the RB closer to the line where the FB sets up now. But this is a copy cat league, and Smitty isn’t about to become an innovator. Besides, we’ve already invested a draft pick in a blocking FB. As effective as WR RWhite and our passing OFF had been before JJones’ arrival, both he, Gonzo and Jones have become far more effective and much more of a threat.

A versatile RB duo of Snelling and Rogers could have the same overall effect on our rushing OFF.

Nookah

November 27th, 2012
1:42 pm

Greetings Cagers!!

Great post as usual D3. You are 11-0 Bro and our Cage Champ. Nuff respect to you my Brother.

1) Simple Bomb – Great win and in an hostile environment to noneother than a streaking divisiona rival. What more could yu ask for?

2) Asante was magnificent – Ram tough – Guts, Glory, Asante!!

3) Stout run defense – Kudos to the Nolan and the coaching staff for being able to make the adjustments to contain a top 10 rushing team especially after your team is in the bottom tier of rushing defences. It tells you why we have championship qualities, we can adjust on the fly!

4) Will Smith & Koetter turn over the keys to Quizz – I don’t think they will do that fully because Smitty reminds me of Woodson who coached the Hawks. He takes a while to put his trust in young players unless they are exceptional e.g. Ryan (had no choice here and Spoon).However, Quizz will gradally get more touches and this unfortunately or fortunately (as you perceive it) mean the begimnning of the end for MT33. He has served us well though. Respect is due to him.

5) Is the RB position the main thing holding us back – I guess here they both go hand in hand but the RB and the OL in unison, both have to be addressed at the same time.

6) I saw marginal improvement in the pass rush although still not where I’d love it to be. However, to put it in perspective, if this team was 9th in rushing before we played them then something has to be said for how their OL was playing and for us to hold them to 39% of their average tells you there is some correlation between “DL push/pressure” and good run defence.

7)Defense IMO rounding into championship form and is showing steady improvement. The graph is trending up!

8) Defense having to keep us in the game – Perhaps more than we would like but the way I look at it is that they are all professionals and they are executing to the best of their ability. Perhaps we’ll see the opposite in the post season.

9)Dunta has been plaing ok to date, not at the level of his contract but as in my previous point, he has been trending upward and that’s a good thing.

10)Safeties are a concern to me and perhaps D3, you are right in saying that prior to Sunday we have had to bring them up for run support. However, if our DL begins to get more push, then our safeties can have the luxury of staying deeper and return to early season form.

11)CB depth is a concern especially with Asante not at 100%. However, this team has shown remarkable character and resolve and if Asnate goes down, God forbid, it’s the usual cliche that will kick in, “next man up”. The tough mental approach of this team can be infectious even if we have average talent

12)Falcons ca stop blowing opportunities and to date we have not played the perfect game and I am anticipating that in January and beyond.

13) As I said above, we will kick into gear.

What impresses me about this team is that they have the mantra – “refuse to lose”. Let us not forget that winning is an attitude, a habit, a mentality, whatever uyou may want to call it and with that mindset n the locker room, we now not only have assembled the braun but the brain power to overcome our nemises, the post-season. There is a swagger about this team, perhaps becasue of more experience but there is something special I sense about this team that will march us into the post season knowing that we are not the same old Falcons that ESPN, and other talkng heads think we are.

They will find out we are not what they thought we were!! As my man Bob Marley would say……

In this life, in this life, in this life,
In this, oh sweet life:
We’re (we’re coming in from the cold);
We’re coming in (coming in), coming in (coming in),
coming in (coming in), coming in (coming in),
Coming in from the cold.

Yes Falcon fans, we’ll be coming in from the cold in 2013.

Go Falcons!!

JJ

November 27th, 2012
1:57 pm

D3, another great post.

From Peter King MMQB:
“5. Atlanta (10-1). At the risk of sounding like a broken record: Michael Turner’s output Sunday in the 24-23 win at Tampa: 16 touches, 30 yards; Jacquizz Rodgers’ output: 12 touches, 79 yards. I keep thinking I’m watching a different game than the Atlanta coaches.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/11/26/Week-12/index.html#ixzz2DS0g9VXR

Yea Peter, weve been wondering the same thing all yr.

Chop Buster

November 27th, 2012
2:00 pm

Good read. Falcons Working to Be Playoff Ready: http://www.nfl.com/n…be-playoffready

Chop Buster

November 27th, 2012
2:04 pm

Nookah (1:42). Good stuff. Thanks for the read.

D3

November 27th, 2012
2:24 pm

JJ — Thanks bro’. Congrats on your big win. Officially put the nail in my playoff hopes. So glad to see prominent and respected guys like Peter King and Mark Bradley finally giving credence to what we’ve been screaming since preseason.

Arno

November 27th, 2012
2:39 pm

The Great Flowery Branch Mystery. From Peter King to Peter Rabbit, nobody can figure it out. My Peter Rabbit theory is this: Coach MS will exhaust all possibility of better execution (continuing to run Turner out of the I, for example) before he will shift the scheme. The reason is more hard-nose practical than conservative. It keeps his players focused on what he expects them to do, rather than give them a scheme excuse not to excel at their task. We saw this after the Saints game goal line failure, in fact, after all the short yardage failures of the past two seasons: Smith AND the players involved will only talk about better execution. Turner’s job description will not change mid-season. Smith will continue to expect Turner’s role to be executed better. I don’t think Smith will ever change his “execution first” priority. I respect it. 10-1 respects it. What I do hope to see is Quizz and Snelling get more touches in the scheme already in place.

LRD

November 27th, 2012
2:46 pm

why is thursday so important>>>>From our “fan” at espn
The Atlanta Falcons can clinch both a playoff spot and the NFC South title by the end of this weekend.

The 10-1 Falcons can clinch the NFC South title if they beat the New Orleans Saints on Thursday night and Tampa Bay either ties with or loses to Denver on Sunday. The Falcons also can clinch the division if they tie with New Orleans and Tampa Bay loses.

There also are two scenarios for the Falcons to clinch a playoff spot. The first would require an Atlanta win and a loss or tie by Seattle. The second would be if Atlanta ties with New Orleans, plus Seattle and Minnesota both lose.

Nookah

November 27th, 2012
2:54 pm

Chop Buster, thanks bro, I appreciate that and that was a great link. I enjoyed the read.

JB Falcon

November 27th, 2012
3:01 pm

This feller is forgetting that they will see us again, in our house, and this will look good on our bulliten board.
“I’m still upset about it,” Tampa Bay LB Adam Hayward said Monday. “Once we look at our mistakes and figure out how to correct them, we’ll move on to Denver, but right now, I’m still upset – especially because I can’t stand Atlanta.”

D3

November 27th, 2012
3:03 pm

JB — I saw that the other day. They also said things such as “they’re 10-1, but they’re not a 10-1 team.” and….”we’re better than they are.” I thought that Schiano had brought a little composure to these fools, but it appears that Headcase Raheem Morris’ ghost is still alive and well in that locker room. STFU you sorry @ss chump………..or better yet……………SCOREBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (pointing towards that stupid toy-cannon ship garbage endzone).

snacktastic

November 27th, 2012
3:09 pm

Maybe we should remind them of what happened in the Dome in January…was that not a franchise record for points scored in a half?

They’d better be ready for another BEATDOWN to finish the season.

D3

November 27th, 2012
3:11 pm

af fan — Your posts are out.

JB Falcon

November 27th, 2012
3:16 pm

Something to chew on Thurs pm;
New Orleans Saints Offense

Overall: 381.p ypg(Ranked 8th in the NFL)

Passing: 290.5 ypg(Ranked 5th in the NFL)

Rushing: 91.5 ypg(Ranked 27th in the NFL)

Atlanta Falcons Offense

Overall: 385.9 ypg(Ranked 6th in the NFL)

Passing: 297.6 ypg(Ranked 2nd in the NFL)

Rushing: 88.3 ypg(28th in the NFL)

New Orleans Saints Defense

Overall: 454.8 ypg(32nd in the NFL)

Passing: 298.3 ypg(30th in the NFL)

Rushing: 156.5 ypg(32nd in the NFL)

Atlanta Falcons Defense

Overall: 344.9 ypg(14th in the NFL)

Passing: 221.7 ypg(13th in the NFL)

Rushing: 123.2 ypg(22nd in the NFL)

Chop Buster

November 27th, 2012
3:24 pm

JB (3:01), I looked this guy up on Tampa’s roster and he’s been with the team for 6 years. After seeing that I said no wonder he hates the Falcons, we’ve been beating them the majority of his time there. The last minute pick from Grimes, the beat down and embarrassment they took from us last year…I’d be hating us to. LOL

D3

November 27th, 2012
3:51 pm

Chop —- Good point. Sadly, I guess the sAINTS and their ignoramus fans could say the same thing about us I guess. Gotta beat that swamp infested @holes.

LRD

November 27th, 2012
3:56 pm

The sAINTS game is one of the last monkeys off our back. We took down Philly in philly (check), have another winning record (check), Ryan playing great (check).. all we have left is payback against the Giants, beating sAINTs, and then winning play off game. all feasible, all I expect to happen.
And regardless of the naysayers ( and my own negativity on the bucs game last week)… what a fantastic time to be a Falcons fan!!!

Zoomie

November 27th, 2012
4:10 pm

Big Ray, I agree. None are infallible and they all screw up from time-to-time. Good point about the rings. When Ryan brings a Lombardi Trophy to Atlanta, I’ll cut him some slack. I’ll even go so far as to vow: if he wins this Superbowl in the House of Aints, I’ll never criticise him again.

Until then, he needs to stop telegraphing his throws, throwing behind his receivers, and work on improving his timing/accuracy.

Oh yeah, and he should probably get into the habit of reading the entire defense instead of just the half he wants to throw at. It won’t take many “earholes” like he took from EJ Biggers to reduce us all to watching the Chris Redman Show (or read about it in the papers, since most of us will be too sick to watch).

Paddy O

November 27th, 2012
4:25 pm

good critique by zoomie on the state of ryan’s progression. however, I’ll cut him quite a bit of slack if we win at least 2 post season games this year.

Paddy O

November 27th, 2012
4:27 pm

it is actually quite healthy competition wise for fans to hate each others ‘ teams. I really hate NO, even beginning to dislike Brees’ smug mug. Not really hate TB – but, I enjoy beating them. Due to Vick I supposed, I have a special place in my dark heart for Philly – and we handed them their lunch this year! excellent!

Paddy O

November 27th, 2012
4:40 pm

you realize, that even with all our griping about not being pass oriented enough – we are 2nd in the league on YPG for passing? Perhaps we are playing better than we give the Falcons credit!!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 27th, 2012
4:44 pm

Hey Guys, Jason Babin released from Eagles. We can definitely use him! Bet TD is on the horn as we speak?

Wabe

November 27th, 2012
4:48 pm

not sure TD’s gonna go spend big money on another DE, especially after eating all that money on Ray Edwards…

think he’ll pass on Babin

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 27th, 2012
4:49 pm

Jason, IMO, will clear waivers, sign with us. IMHO, we have a need for him…and I think he wouldn’t mine playing for a serious Superbowl contender. IMO

John Waynesworld

November 27th, 2012
4:49 pm

Too bad we couldn’t think of some way to juggle the books to get Babin. We do kinda sorta need a defensive end, slightly. Seriously though, it is probably a salary cap impossibility with Edwards’ dead money stuck on our tab.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 27th, 2012
4:58 pm

Sorry Guys, suggesting we sign him is based on my feelings (heart) not with the grey matter. Know possible way we can sign him.

JB Falcon

November 27th, 2012
6:03 pm

Wings, Elvis asked me to send his condolances to Moby Duck, Big Boy and Elvis for the loss of Big Tex. Sounded something like “Aaaarrriiinngguudt!”
We had a cat, “Fred” that wieghed 23 lbs and Elvis, 62 lbs, didn’t give Fred no lip. :)

Matty Bicep

November 27th, 2012
6:16 pm

Babin’s contract is not guaranteed beyond this year. Anyone who picks him up just owes 1.6 mil, the balance of his 2012 salary. Where do we find 1.6 mil…..hmmmm

DHunt

November 27th, 2012
6:41 pm

Dave Archer says if Babin clears waivers the Falcons could definitely tweak the numbers to get him on the roster, provided he’s willing to sign for the league minimum. Which he could conceivably do in order to play for a shot at the Superbowl, and because his guaranteed money from Philly is still coming in no matter what.

One thing that hasn’t gotten much play in the Cage or anywhere else is the distinct possibility that the Falcons are not trying to display their whole bag of tricks during the regular season. One thing we know is that the best coaches typically get to the post season. And they are usually pretty good at recognizing tendencies and scheming to stop the strength of the opposing team. That has been the main reason why Turner can’t get anything going this year. Any coach worth his salary is going to see that the vast majority of his runs are up the middle, and that if you can get him before he gets going, he’s pretty easy to get down. So every time he lines up in the backfield and it’s a run situation, the entire defense crashes inside. They are willing to give up the edges because they don’t think he can get there and good LB’s and safeties can still handle him on the outside if he does.

Take a good look at his touchdown run against Tampa. 6 defenders crashed inside. It was the pulling block by Baker and the outside blocking by the wide receivers that made that run so easy. The fact that it was goal line, meant the safeties were too close and too far inside to affect the run.

JJ

November 27th, 2012
6:42 pm

http://phillysportsnut.com/eagles-cut-jason-babin-making-sense-of-the-move/

“”"REPORT: It hasn’t taken long for Babin to start lining up interviews. He is on his way to Atlanta to interview with the Falcons and will proceed to the New Orleans Saints following his interview with Atlanta. From there Jason will head to Denver on Wednesday night to talk shop with the Broncos. Another team that could be interested in his services are the Detroit Lions who also run the wide-9. “”"

JJ

November 27th, 2012
6:48 pm

Its a fire sale… :)

“The move itself shouldn’t come as a surprise as Babin is among a handful of defensive players that won’t be returning to the team next season. It has been rumored that CB Nnamdi Asomugha and Dominic Rodgers-Cromartie, along with both safeties, Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman, won’t be returning next season”

JJ

November 27th, 2012
7:08 pm

Searching for how much cap space we have and only found this one dated sept. 2012. Does cutting Big Ray add to this number? Lol, RE not our beloved super trooper!

“Sep 1412:47PM ETBy Pat Yasinskas | ESPN.com Recommend2 Tweet16 Comments11Email Print Beyond the obvious, there’s another reason why the Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans Saints have to hope they don’t encounter many more injuries.

They don’t have enough salary-cap space to add many more players. I just got a look at the latest league-wide cap figures, and the Falcons have the second-smallest amount of cap room available. ”

From PatY. 3 months ago.

JB Falcon

November 27th, 2012
7:09 pm

Get Babin a uni and start him Thurs night. 18.5 sacks last year!

JJ

November 27th, 2012
7:09 pm

San Francisco leads with only $754,618 available. The Falcons are just behind them at $761,498. They are the only two teams with less than $1 million in cap space.

JB Falcon

November 27th, 2012
7:10 pm

JJ, $1.6 mil is small in the NFL.

Matty Bicep

November 27th, 2012
7:13 pm

They would have to cut someone. Is Turner Guaranteed?

I don’t think we will even get a shot, another team making a superbowl run who had dibs over us will pick him up, that is the downside of being 10-1…Chicago, Denver, New Orleans….Really, who would not like to rent a pass rusher going down the stretch. I hope he goes to the AFC.

Matty Bicep

November 27th, 2012
7:16 pm

Or restructure someones contract. They can fit him in, and even next year he is only around 5 mil. Philly took the hit on his signing bonus and such. He is somewhat of a bargain…..but dream on, my guess is he don’t get out of New Orleans.

LRD

November 27th, 2012
7:29 pm

Maybe somehow TD looked into his crystal ball, saw Babin coming free, dumped edwards to make space, and is now just waiting for the dust to settle to see him in a ATL jersey?

darrell starks

November 27th, 2012
7:37 pm

If there is a missing piece for Falcons BAB is that guy.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 27th, 2012
7:46 pm

If there’s any serious consideration in signing Babin, we would need about 1 mill, only way we get that is cut someone on the acttive roster. Peria Jerry is getting well real quick.

darrell starks

November 27th, 2012
7:48 pm

When Falcons sign BaB, then finally they could move Kroy to OLB and move Spoon MLB.

DL

BAB, PETERS, TRAVIAN, BAB, ABRAHAM

LB

NICHOLAS, SPOON, KROY

DB

DUNTA, DECOUD, MOORE, SAMUEL

BAB IS A PERFECT FIT

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!

Matty Bicep

November 27th, 2012
7:50 pm

We don’t have to cut anyone actually, we can restructure someone. The money is no issue, our problem is he has to clear waivers for 29 teams….There are teams that might grab him just so we don’t…But if by some miracle he does get to us, TD will sign him.

darrell starks

November 27th, 2012
7:50 pm

My bad have 12 players on the field, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kroy could come in and play both DE AND OLB.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!

Paddy O

November 27th, 2012
7:55 pm

why would babin sign with the saints?no chance to play in the post season. and thus, the coach killer notches another mark on his dog collar.

Paddy O

November 27th, 2012
7:56 pm

hmm. I thought a cut guy becomes a FA – he still has to go through waivers?

Matty Bicep

November 27th, 2012
8:02 pm

He has to clear waivers, that means any team can pick up the balance of his contract, so at 1.6 this year, and around 5 next year, he is a bargain….And next year is not even guaranteed.

If nobody puts in a Waiver claim, then he is a FA. The team with the worst record has the 1st option, so we are last.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000101791/article/jason-babin-five-potential-landing-spots

Chop Buster

November 27th, 2012
8:15 pm

I just saw exactly why we didn’t get a TD on our first drive in TB. We get in the red zone and get cute with the ball trying to throw a short pass to Rodgers (with two defenders on him), instead of running the ball at Tampa like we had been doing to get down there. That stuff may work on some defenses, but TB is disciplined and obviously saw the film on that play. Why not fake that play to freeze the defense and go somewhere else with the ball? I guess we can critique all day after the fact.

Wabe

November 27th, 2012
8:32 pm

not sure what to believe at this point…

Ledbetter’s out there reporting the Falcons have no interest in Babin. Possibly to downplay expectations or the usual TD patriot way?

I’m just not sure what to make of it after seeing that article JJ posted. Supposedely he’s in Atlanta talking with Atlanta. I don’t see the Saints really being much of a threat for his services, but the Broncos, them and potentially some other sleepers could be after his services.

Dude’s 32, so he’s not a long-term answer at DE. If we can get him for a Superbowl run this season, I’m on board. But, no more outrageous contracts. These high-priced FA’s haven’t been good to us thus far.

LRD

November 27th, 2012
8:40 pm

Truth.. very funny. I am sure Jerry is out running right now.. doing backflips.

JB Falcon

November 27th, 2012
9:02 pm

I’ll go out on a limb here. We don’t need Babin. We’ve been building this team too long to spend $2 mil for maybe a sack or two. We’ll get our own sacks, thank you!

Matty Bicep

November 27th, 2012
9:15 pm

It is interesting the Dled does not quote anyone saying the Falcons are not interested, he just says they are’nt, it does not look like he actually spoke with anyone. Probably go it off PR twitter feed.

I am OK standing pat too, but he is tempting, he might just be that bookend for abe we dreamed about. IDK, I would like to see the Falcons sign him, get him in the system, see what he can do, give him a few weeks to get intergrated, then let Nolan do his thing with his new toy on the playoffs.

For a 1.6 mil, WTH…Plus if he produces, he is fairly cheap next year if we want to keep him around.

JB Falcon

November 27th, 2012
9:46 pm

Mattie Bicep,( I think I am doing you a favor, first of all, by calling you by your chosen handle) I am breaking my own rule that “you never argue with an idiot”, okay? I’m sure (know) you have been called worse. I am not argueing with you.
I will give you credit for ONE thing, you are one persistent SOB. It seems to me that you feel your contibution to the blog has to be a conflicting attitude, or opinion, on everything that is posted. You should have figured out by now that the blog does not welcome folks like you appear to be.
In my opinion, it wouldn’t be too hard for you to quit trying to offer “point, counter-point” crap. We’re not on here for that. We share opinions and RESPECT other folk’s opinions. You are obviously a very informed Falcon fan and your posts would be more welcome if you wasn’t so arguementive.
I am posting this as my last offer to extend the olive branch to you. For me, you are still welcome but you’re going to have to adjust your attitude. We are all fans and, for the most part, are an optimistic bunch. We critisize and b!tch and we exchange opinions. We are “respectfull” to one another and, in my opinion, you should learn to be the same or give the Hell up. No one on this blog will respect what you have to offer until you learn to respect others.

DHunt

November 27th, 2012
9:53 pm

Chop Buster @8:15, I was sitting there wondering “how in the heck does Ryan not see that they had that play read from start to finish”? But sometimes you gotta try it, and when that’s the call and you don’t have any other outlets, sometimes you gotta throw it in there and hope that the worst that happens is no gain on the play. QB’s who can read defenses pre-snap, like Ryan, sometimes are the victims of their own read, if the defense does something unexpected, like not rush those two edge guys you just knew were coming on a blitz. Being able to read and react after the snap is a much more essential skill set, and one that I think is a major factor in separating the elite from the very good. Ryan isn’t there yet, and this isn’t a knock on him, because at no point in time during his first four years did anyone ask him to even consider developing that skill set. He usually only had the first or second read to deal with. Peyton, on the other hand, knows where everyone is on every play and if he sees the defense going one way, he knows how to react another way. And his plays are designed to give him those outlets to react; AND his entire assemblage of offensive targets is being constantly trained on how to react the way he expects them to react to certain defensive looks. It’s how he gets lesser talent to perform at higher levels.

The Falcons have to have their higher level talent perform at that high level consistently, because that other scenario isn’t one that just happens overnight.

DHunt

November 27th, 2012
9:56 pm

And I sincerely doubt that 31 other teams want to see the Falcons defense get better by letting Babin fall to Atlanta. Somebody will snatch him up before that happens. The football gods would have to be mighty generous to let a proven commodity like that just fall into our laps.

E43

November 27th, 2012
10:02 pm

I think the Falcons operate a tad bit too much on the fear of failure. I think the Falcons can run the ball as well as pass the ball. In 4 quarters, I do not think they do enough of both to benefit the other. I advocated running on consecutive downs because the lack of a short to mid run game takes from the long game in the pass. I thought the falcons got acceptable yardage when ran on consecutive plays on the first drive. Then again, that could be the effect of scripting plays. I thought the runs early were a bit more exotic than the runs in the 3rd quarter. I’m not saying that they should run on consecutive downs every day. I actually just feel like the gains of 0 yards have always been there for the falcons even in 2008. The difference is that the falcons just don’t allow opposing defenses to break and collapse. They bail out their failures way too easily. Ball gets tipped and that play is out of the playbook for the day.

What happened to that shovel pass to Snelling that scored a TD? The same pass that got a first down later in that game.
:-) :-) :-) just cause I can

Chop Buster

November 27th, 2012
10:03 pm

DHunt (9:53), I just think Ryan gets a little tunnel vision and seems like he doesn’t see the defender standing next to the receiver, TE or RB. I too believe that he will get better as time goes on. He just has to remember to survey the field once more before the snap. Additionally, Roddy didn’t do a d@mn thing to help Ryan out by alerting him that he may have a second blitzer coming. He stood right there watching the guy jumping back and forth. Our players need to look out for Matt as well when they see a potential issue.

Fukowi

November 27th, 2012
10:31 pm

The biggest play of the Tampa game was the one where Ryan got blind sided and smacked from the right and fumbled. I say biggest because Ryan got right back up. Everyone on this team complements Ryan – if he gets injured – season over. The OL has to do a better job – they are spoiled due to Matt’s unbelievable quick release. We have a great QB in the making who is still a young kid – protect him, give him great receivers and a good defense – and he will take you to great places.

Matty Bicep

November 27th, 2012
10:42 pm

Not looking to be difficult JB, I am with ya standing pat, I think we have the pieces in place to make a legitimate run and I would be concerned about screwing up our chemistry. I am philosophically with that, It is my experience that “next guy” is not necessarily better. I am more about dancing with the one ya brung…hence my defense of Smitty and Co.

I was just dreaming about Babin, and what Nolan could do, especially if he did not have to “tip his hand” how he would use Babs until playoff time. I am just thinking out loud to be honest, not trying to be “right”…. but If Babins contract is as palatable as it says, I would be surprised if it makes it to us.

Peace

Wings

November 28th, 2012
7:40 am

JB Falcon, thanks from you and your Elvis. I have found a pet named Elvis has to be special.

Wings

November 28th, 2012
7:44 am

JB Falcon your 10:46 message to Matty Bicep is the clearest yet by anyone to him. If he doesn’t comprehend it, all is lost.

One of my favorite sayings: Big egos have little ears.

John Waynesworld

November 28th, 2012
8:06 am

The Saints and Brees think they are in our heads. This upcoming tilt is becoming less and less important as far as the playoffs and homefield advantage, and more and more about MANHOOD. Popping off about how this is not a rivalry, dancing on our logo, having a party in the middle of an NFL game to celebrate a personal statistic while running up the score…MANHOOD.

If there is A SET left in Suwanee this game should be a blowout with Brees leaving the field in between two trainers clucking like a chicken. YOU GOT ME D LINE???

Chop Buster

November 28th, 2012
8:19 am

JW (8:06) co-sign. Brees even tried to throw in a cheap shot during his press conference in saying that, “We’re playing the best team in the NFC–at least that’s what their record says.”

I hope our guys truly Rise Up and embarrass these clowns. They talk all that garbage about owning the Falcons and them being their little brother. If there’s a time our defense needs to punch a team in the mouth, this is the game.

Shotgun

November 28th, 2012
9:16 am

Geo

November 28th, 2012
9:38 am

Falcons wear the throwback uni tomorrow. It kills me that the ‘66 outfit looks soooo much better than the “up to date” look. If I were AB, I would switch to the throwback all the time. Heck, they’d probably get more respect too, cuz they would look like a real football team.

Greg Mendel

November 28th, 2012
9:55 am

Thanks for the Ryan link, Shotgun. When my daughter was in grad school at Boston University, she waitressed at a pub near Boston College. BC football players were regulars, and she said they regularly acted like jerks — with the exception of Matt Ryan, who was always polite and considerate. That’s not relevant to football, but I always remember her comment when I see Matt.

Chop Buster

November 28th, 2012
10:13 am

Good read Shotgun. Thanks

Unca' Bob

November 28th, 2012
10:16 am

Greg Mendel,

That story may not be relevant to football, but, it is relevant. It’s in part what makes MR2 the fine young man he is as well as the leader of this team.

LRD

November 28th, 2012
10:38 am

Bluto’s right. Psychotic… but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part!

Geo

November 28th, 2012
10:48 am

Watched the NFL Replay of the Tampa game. Have to say I’m very encouraged with the rushing attack. It’s was exactly what we need, a nice mix of Quiz, Turner, and Snelling, with pitches and screens to our more versatile duo. Even Turner was more effective than most realize and ran with power and purpose on several runs, gaining three or four or more. His ill advised backwards run late in the fourth hurt his total/avg. I think there is still a role for him in the “running by committee” approach, and he seems to have accepted it.

In the NFL AM interview with Turner, he mentioned that the offense is less predictable, not the same old same old every game. In years past, CMS would keep banging his head against the wall doing the same three plays and then say “we just didn’t execute.” That is a lame excuse if it covers up the real culprit — bad playcalling. Thank you, DK, for using this offense correctly, and please keep mixing it up and keep defenses off balance.

Zoomie

November 28th, 2012
10:55 am

I don’t know exactly when the Falcons-Saints rivalry turned so sour on a global level, but I can tell you when it turned for me.

Even though the former bagheads turned ridiculously obnoxious (even making Philly fans look like choir boys) as soon as the Aints started winning, that still wasn’t enough for me. I’d still root for an NFC South team over anyone else, once the Falcons were out of the picture.

It was the 2009 NFC Championship game that turned my stomach. I watched an undisciplined team of hoodlums and scumbags taking cheap shots and treating their opponents with disdain. At the time, I was PO’d that the NFL allowed it to happen; I didn’t realize the NFL was already on to them and the Aints were being monitored for being cheating thugs. And they haven’t changed at all: witness Bunkley last week.

Since that time, I have more respect for stuff I scrape from the bottom of my shoes than I have for that Aints organization. I know a great number of Falcons fans are with me on that.

Here’s where we’re gonna suffer: Smitty don’t roll like that. CMS is a numbers man, a statistician, a man of reason and a strategic thinker. He always strives to take emotion out of the picture. To CMS, a Falcons-Aints game carries no more weight than any other. In the larger scheme, another loss to the Aints won’t have a major effect on reaching the team’s goals for the season. He will play this game conservatively, try to preserve his players, and expose as little of his capabilities as possible. If he wins with that game plan, great. If not, it doesn’t really affect the outcome of the season. I believe this is his mentality (and I have to begrudgngly agree it’s the mature approach, even though it pizzes me off).

I’ve watched this play out for five years, now. He doesn’t care about any “rivalry,” he cares about strategic goals. He doesn’t care about being the perception of being “owned” by the Aints, he cares about the Falcons’ place in the big NFL picture.

Taking this into account, and factoring in that the Aints are now playing for their lives, prepare to be disappointed, yet again, on Thursday night. If it happens, try to keep your eyes on the prize.

Winning a Superbowl in the Aints home dome would be worth losing to them twice in the regular season. Don’tcha think?

(Still, makes me want to puke just thinking about it . . .)

Geo

November 28th, 2012
10:56 am

ESPN power poll, Flacons #2: “Winning close games is great, but the percentages tend to even out eventually. (Sando)”

Uh, even if the Falcons lost the rest of their games (practically impossible), they would have to go back in time and lose a couple from earlier in the year to even it out. Stupid comment by Sando. Guess these guys are running out of material when you’ve got two or three storylines to work with — haven’t won in the playoffs, haven’t beaten anybody, and now, have played too many close games.

Zoomie

November 28th, 2012
11:01 am

EXACTLY!

This:

“. . . a nice mix of Quiz, Turner, and Snelling, with pitches and screens to our more versatile duo.”

Leads to this:

“. . . Turner was more effective . . . and ran with power and purpose . . .”

I think they’ve been experimenting and are starting to hit on a combination that is effective.

Greg Mendel

November 28th, 2012
11:27 am

Unca’ Bob: I agree, which is why it made an impression on me. At that time, Matt was already a star, but also at an age when all the attention can go to one’s head (as in Bartkowski, Favre, etc.). My daughter’s observation is evidence to me that Ryan is an unusually serious, intelligent guy. When he joined the Falcons, he made it a point to behave like a rookie, despite his talent and all the hype. He earned respect and paid his dues.

FWIW, I met a lot of celebrities when I worked in the TV biz. It’s amazing (and disappointing) to see what jerks some beloved showbiz folks are off-camera. (Some pleasant exceptions, too.)

One football-related thought on Ryan for you and others: With no NFL experience, Ryan found himself the starting QB of a team in ruins. Most rookie QBs are eased into things, often mentored by an experienced QB (A. Rogers, for example). How much difference would we see in Ryan’s performance had he been “groomed” before being made the starter?

D3

November 28th, 2012
11:36 am

Greetings Cage Family! — On the eve before a game of absolutely ENORMOUS proportions. Will it be the end of the world if we lose this game? Not necessarily. But dagnabbit, we really WANT get this one. As the trolls will love saying, “even in a down year we still own you.” One game doesn’t necessarily predict the future, but I can remember how we were on our high after beating the Ravens and Packers in a matter of weeks, heading towards the playoffs #1 seed and what happened with the next to last game at home the day after xmas? We lose to the hated sAINTS at home. I remember Mark Bradley wrote an article saying how that was a bad omen, specifically the way our offense played. I tried everything in my power to rationalize it away, but sure enough, it ended up being a d@mn fine predictor of our future playoff success after all. The last two we’ve played at home we coulda / shoulda won. In 2010, Smitty decides to punt the frackin’ ball with barely two minutes on the clock at midfield. Did Brees and Co get a first down? Yep….. Lost. Last year we drive all the way down with a chance to WIN THE GAME and we lose that chance. Go into OT and go for it in our own territory and not only don’t get the first, but get stuffed. Gotta get it done guys! This is another monkey on our back.

Arno

November 28th, 2012
11:42 am

Saints linebacker Scott Shanle informs us that the Falcons will be playing Big Brother tomorrow night. Perhaps Shanle believes “ignorance is strength.” – George Orwell, 1984

Geo

November 28th, 2012
11:57 am

Arno: Perhaps Shanle believes “ignorance is strength.”

I don’t think he has a choice.

Agree, D3, it is so time to put a beatdown on these guys.

LRD

November 28th, 2012
12:17 pm

Mendel: I work with a guy that must have hung out at the same pub. He said you could throw a peanut at Ryan and he would just smile and go back to hanging out. Said he never caused problems, could be provoked by friends or enemies and was just low key… funny that you brought that up…

Nookah

November 28th, 2012
12:46 pm

LRD, Greg Mendel,

Ryan was obviously “brought up” not “dragged up” like a few jocks are.

You can definately see it in his demeanour though.

On to the Saints. I think the comments from the Saints is an indication of a “drowning man clutching at a straw” attempt to hold on to the last bastion of hope that they have and that is “bragging rights” on a divisional opponent. So they try to belittle our achievements and dismiss us as not being a rival and all the other rhetoric associated with it. Mr. Lofton also seems to have found his tongue too as he seems to be ready to offer an opinion more frequently than when he was in our locker room; whatever man!

For more reasons than one, we need to win this game. It’s weird that a 10-1 you have a must win game butthat’s how I would classify this Thursday night battle. The intangibles far outweigh the tangibles.

As the great Robert Nesta would say……………

Them crazy, them crazy
We gonna chase those crazy
Baldheads out of town
Chase those crazy baldheads
Out of town

I and I build a cabin
I and I plant the corn
Didn’t my people before me
Slave for this country
Now you look me with a scorn
Then you eat up all my corn

We gonna chase those crazy baldheads
Chase them crazy
Chase those crazy baldheads out of town

Go Falcons!!

LRD

November 28th, 2012
1:05 pm

IF Lofton does the dirty bird a la Brooking I will lose my mind!
Like to see the Beertruck just crush Brees.. and then next series Moore comes in as a missile. We just cannot swing and miss taking him down as we have in the past

Off Topic: Nooka.. thanks now I will have that tune in my mind for the rest of the day. I have been listening to True Love (covers of Toots and the Maytals)..love the version Funky Kingston

Nookah

November 28th, 2012
1:22 pm

LRD,

Do you have roots? Where did you get to hear about Toots and the Maytals?

What a bam bam!!! We should talk brother, musically that is!!

D3

November 28th, 2012
1:44 pm

LRD — Absolutely agreed on crushing Brees. Even if we don’t get to him we have to hit him and hit him hard, that’s the only way you’re going to beat great QBs. We’ve come close in the past only to let him side-step or escape. I sure hope this moment is not lost on the Falcons and what it means to beat these bastardos.

LRD

November 28th, 2012
2:04 pm

Nookah.. my roots are in Maryland.. but have an older brother with superb taste in music that opened my ears to Reggae.. and then my old roommate was a huge fan of Tosh, Wailers, Toots etc..
I am a dead head.. but just enjoy listening to about anything.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 28th, 2012
2:28 pm

At some point in this heated rivalry, Mike Smith must put down the calculators, stat sheets, rubik’s cube…and just tell the team, GUYS, IT’S TIME TO WHOOP SOME AZZ!!!

Nookah

November 28th, 2012
2:37 pm

LRD,

Great to know bro. Enjoy the roots rock reggae.

Somebody,
You know that’s just not in his nature. As far as that goes he’s pretty consistent but I’m with you. I think that should be the message but in doing that you have to be careful we don’t lose our discipline, becasue you know we have the characters with the potential to do just that, know what I’m sayin’.

Go Falcons!!

LRD

November 28th, 2012
2:55 pm

Somebody: That is the speech I would expect to hear from Ryan, Roddy(off tweeter), Gonzo, Spoon and the old Lion Peterson…. sans Smith.
With Ryan pumping his fist saying get off my field.. well we need that type of emotion from him on the sidelines before the first kick.

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
3:02 pm

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 28th, 2012
3:07 pm

LRD, Nookah…I hear Ya. Smith is just so damn button up at times.

Nookah

November 28th, 2012
3:23 pm

Big Ray,

I remember hearingan interview with Koetter at the beginning of the season and he was asked about the RB’s. His coimment was that Snelling is such an underrated RB. He can do so many things frm that position. When I saw him in the game on Sunday, I started to wonder if Snelling was part of the post season “surprise” that we may have up our sleeves so they have begun to work him in to the equation.

I remember last season he had that fantastic 21 yard run in the Dome against them Aints!! I’m looking for one more like this one – enjoy!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6KMEpG6ZEw

Go Falcons!!

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
3:24 pm

Dhunt ,

Your 9:53 p.m. post yesterday….all I can say is bravo. Especially when talking about what has been expected of Ryan and how he’s been coached the first four years in the NFL.

Some folks just can’t see that. Of course, they probably also can’t see that beginning in 2008, this franchise was reborn from the #2 guy on down. Rookie GM, rookie HC, rookie QB.

Ryan’s learning curve is linked to Smitty’s learning curve. It’s a testament to what kind of player he is to see how he has overcome being so damn scripted for so long. Four years we worked a faux power running scheme that was behind the times. Just how far does a QB go in such a system? How much does he learn? How quickly?

That is not to absolve Ryan of his mistakes, flaws, etc. It’s to quantify the connection between them and the other significant factors in play within the situation.

There is a distinct difference between making excuses and seeking to understand why thing are the way they are, and considering all the reasons. But I digress…

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
3:30 pm

Nookah ,

One can only hope. Of course,we have other issues to deal with. But that is one that I hope gets answered soon. It may very well be the difference between getting something done in the playoffs and getting shut down…again.

One little thing can make such a difference, affect so much. Having a strong, effective offense will determine how this season ends and how the postseason goes.

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
3:35 pm

As for what the Tampa Bay Bucs are saying…..screw them. They could say the same thing about the Giants, who spotted them a much larger lead than we did…then came back and took the game.

When you win, you take the win. We ain’t giving it back. They tried to run, we did not let them. They tried to pass, we limited what they could do.

Did they leave some points on the field? Hell yeah, they did. So did we. Hell, we found every way imagineable to leave points on the field, including missing two FGs. We are better than they are and proved it by beating them despite two turnovers and throwing away two scoring drives via missed FGs. We even gave them good field position a couple of times. Gave them wide open receivers a few times.

If the Bucs were better, they would have won. They weren’t. End of story.

Nookah

November 28th, 2012
3:44 pm

Big Ray,

3:35pm – nuff said!!

From your 3:24pm post – If you had a choice on getting one coach, any coach to develop Ryan to be Ultra-elite, who would you pick?

JB Falcon

November 28th, 2012
3:45 pm

Accu-Score on ESPN has the Falcons 51% straight up favorites, for whatever that’s worth.

JB Falcon

November 28th, 2012
3:54 pm

8 out of 9 “experts” on SI have picked the Falcons!

Zoomie

November 28th, 2012
4:01 pm

(And Big Ray’s countenance falls in disappointment as he watches the large shadow that rose to his fervently-twitching lure, slowly slink away and disappear into the depths, and he realizes, “Damn, guess they can see a lot more than I gave them credit for . . .”)

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
4:17 pm

Zoomie ,

I am dumb enough to miss some jokes…so pardon me if I missed that one. On the other hand, if you want to call me out on something, then do so. Perhaps I said something that you disagree with? Happens…

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
4:22 pm

Nookah ,

All I can say is it damn sure would not have been Mularkey or Bill Musgrave. I wouldn’t have minded having somebody more QB friendly. Mike Sherman, perhaps? I am quite certain that there are several here that have way better ideas than I do.

What I do know is that the folks who have occupied the offensive side of the coaching staff prior to this year were power run/physical offense oriented. I also know that this hasn’t won a SB in a while. That fact might inconvenience some folks (Mularkey). I also know that you MIGHT win that way IF you actually have a powerful OL that can consistently maul defenses and push them off the ball (we don’t), and if you have a mean defense that dominates far more often than not (we have that neither…yet).

Both things don’t contribute well to a QB’s progress when trying to reach elite status. The rest is up to the QB.

Koetter seems mightily impressed with Ryan. I’ll take his word. Ryan’s got a lot to work on. He’ll get there. But this is the first year from what I can see that his learning curve got truly accelerated. No surprise that the mistakes become more glaring.

Some folks alluded to this before the season began. I wasn’t one of them, but I damn sure see what they’re talking about now.

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
4:24 pm

JB ,

You running those numbers for Smitty? LOL…I hear he likes them numbers…

Thanks for the positivity, even if it’s boredom inspired ;)

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
4:29 pm

Zoomie ,

My bad….I’m slow. Went back and skimmed over a few posts. I’ll hazard a guess….you think I was baiting you. I wasn’t. If I wanted to argue with you, I’d address you by your blog handle. But if you’re looking for such a date, you could always take it up with the namesake of his second largest upper arm muscle group…he’ll be your huckleberry…that’s just his game….

Zoomie

November 28th, 2012
4:49 pm

In case you haven’t noticed, I’ve purposely steered clear of that edge of the field. I detest huckleberries . . .

Nookah

November 28th, 2012
4:56 pm

Big Ray,

Thanks for the feedback Bro. I conur as far as Mularkey is concerned :)

Arno

November 28th, 2012
5:01 pm

Zoomie raises an interesting point @ 10:55. Although I don’t get that dried flower arrangement on their helmets, for me the Saints/Falcons rivalry was fun for many years. We had common enemies like the 49rs. I had a best friend from Mississippi, a lifelong Saints fan, and we enjoyed ribbing each other (I say enjoyed, past tense). It wasn’t until last year, after I watched the Saints play the Giants in New Orleans, that the fun turned to disgust. It wasn’t football– it was gratuitous smack. The look on Eli’s face said it all: “What’s wrong with those guys– just get me out of here.” I was not surprised at all when the bounties were exposed. For me it was particularly satisfying that it was the good ol’ 49rs who knocked them out of the playoffs.

Although there is 50% turnover in their starters, the Saints are still chewing on that stale gum of 2009. They will continue to smack that gum in our faces until we beat them.

Zoomie

November 28th, 2012
5:15 pm

“Although I don’t get that dried flower arrangement on their helmets . . .”

It’s the Fleur-de-lis, the “lily.” It’s just missing the depiction of the “liver” that should be painted right next to it.

Shotgun

November 28th, 2012
5:26 pm

Falcons are close to greatness. I can feel it. Let’s just hope the coaches(offensively) stop experimenting and play to their strengths.

Their defense has improved a great deal this year. And, if the Tampa Bay game becomes a trend, then the Falcons will be in superb shape on that side of the ball.

The run game needs to be addressed immediately and I hope Smith starts learning from the failed attempts. Saints is the team to get that run game going. Also, if they are going to make changes on the offensive line… it should be this game, too. Saints defense is a bit slow on the edges. Let’s hope we take advantage of that with sweeps, ect.

Smith needs to throw away the conservative mindset this game. The Falcons need to destroy the Saints tomorrow. It will greatly help their confidence and give them momentum into the rest of the regular season.

I hate to say it, but Thursday night is HUGE. It’s an omen of what will come.

If this season is truly different from the rest, the Falcons needs signature wins(already Philly, Denver, and Tampa). The Saints beat down would be the biggest signature win there is.

DHunt

November 28th, 2012
5:32 pm

And Jason Babin gets his most fervent wish. Will be taking his talents to the Sunshine state… and on the Jags team, he may be the only thing left that actually merits the term “talent”

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 28th, 2012
5:44 pm

Jags ranked 26th in the league in offense…signing Babin is just what they need for their final race to the BOTTOM.

JB Falcon

November 28th, 2012
6:14 pm

Big Ray, I hear ya on the numbers. I too wish MS would put the charts away every now and then. I’m sure his statistics have provided some stability in our team but they have also cost us. Statistically, the fourth and one last year against the Caints said we should have made it. Statistics say a family should have 2.2 children and nobody has done it yet! Sometimes you just have to go with your gut.

JB Falcon

November 28th, 2012
6:22 pm

DHunt, that waiver system is cracked. I’m sure Babin was dying to go to a winner like the Jags. The whole deal will go down as a brilliant move by MM.

SPS

November 28th, 2012
6:43 pm

At least we don’t have to worry about facing Babin in the playoffs

John Waynesworld

November 28th, 2012
7:10 pm

Since nobody tells the truth anymore, it is entirely possible that this is all a waiting game and Babin desperately wants to play for the Falcons and Smitty, who he may have met in the 2011 Pro Bowl when Smith was the HC for the NFC and Babin represented Tennessee in the AFC. Heck Babin and Smitty could be once a year fishing buddies for all we know. So basically anything’s possible.

John Waynesworld

November 28th, 2012
7:11 pm

Never mind, geez.

Matty Bicep

November 28th, 2012
7:22 pm

Babin was scouted pretty hard by TD and Smitty before he signed with the Feebles, not to mention they had to game plan against him…. So, they know him well.

I was wondering of MM has a deal with TD since TD knew he could never get past waivers…. and maybe we will see a trade this offseason…..the love of MMs life, .MT33 for JB? hmmmm.

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
7:25 pm

In case you haven’t noticed, I’ve purposely steered clear of that edge of the field. I detest huckleberries . . .

Ha! To be honest, you don’t post as much as some of us other addicts (yes, that is what we are) so I haven’t followed a great deal of what you say. But you have my attention now, most particularly with the crack on the Taints choice of floral arrangements and internal organs….good stuff…

:lol:

JB Falcon

November 28th, 2012
7:52 pm

JWW, the way I understand it is that Babin was a FA the same time RE was and they went with Edwards? (Worst move TD has ever made) Didn’t Babin have 18 sacks last year and RE 3.5?
Either way, I don’t think Babin will be a Falcon. The guy is 32 yrs old and will probably retire from the Jags, taking it easy.

MontanaDawg

November 28th, 2012
8:02 pm

SI summed up the Falcons perfectly…”The Falcons are simply cutting it too close, too often in 2012, and that should make Atlanta fans feel like they’ve seen this movie before. The Falcons are 7-1 this season in games decided by a margin of seven points or less, roughly the same results they experienced in close games in 2010, when their 7-2 mark in such situations sparked them to a 13-3 record and the No. 1 seed in the NFC playoffs. Not that it did them any good in the postseason, with visiting Green Bay blowing out one-and-done Atlanta in the divisional round.”

Wake me up if they make it past Round 1….

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
8:20 pm

Don’t know what happened with Babin, other than the fact that he was looking to get paid (like most guys).

Thing is, he had a heck of a year last year. That was last year. He’s not doing a whole lot this year. So the question one must ask is this…who gets their snaps cut if Babin were to come here?

Personally, I have little use for him UNLESS the plan involves Biermann moving to LB and playing a bunch of snaps there. But that doesn’t work unless a) we go back to a 4-3 with three LBs out there, or b) we’re going to a 3-4 defense….in which case I’d be looking for a bigger guy than Babin to man one of the DE spots.

So I don’t see where he fits.

Big Ray

November 28th, 2012
8:25 pm

JB ,

Yeah, it was quite the mistake. Babin is (in retrospect) clearly a better player, even this year. That said, Babin probably wouldn’t have changed last year’s results or even this year’s.

I am not happy to have found how much of a thief Edwards was but to be really honest….I’d have been more upset if this was a DT we’re talking about.

Speaking of which Peria Jerry is questionable for tomorrow night’s game. And I could care less.

D3

November 28th, 2012
9:20 pm

Good Evenin’ Cage Family! — Been trying to get in and rap before the big game tomorrow night because I won’t be live-blogging for I’ll be seeing our Birds stomp down some swamp trash.

1) Simple Bomb – what’s your thoughts on the Falcons road win vs. the Bucs: huge win on the road vs. a streaking team or still making it too hard on themselves?

Right after the game I wanted to be a little hard on the Falcons and be a little too much negative nellie, but I stepped back for a second and realized what this team has done this year and the fact that, regardless what the final score was, this was a big game to win against a red hot Bucs team. In fact, they were everyone’s favorite new “IT” team. The Bucs have always had talent. Unlike the Panthers and sAINTS, I’ve really always respected their drafts as they many times take guys that us here in The Cage advocated.

I still think that we’re making these games entirely too hard on ourselves, but we found a way to win yet again. It was ugly for sure, but this wasn’t the bottom-feeding teams like the Cards, Raiders, or Panthers that we’ve struggled with. This was a big win on the road. This is not a surefire determiner for success in the playoffs, but I want these Falcons to be peaking at the right time. It seems as though in 2010 we peaked about month too early and really started to struggle as the playoffs got close. We have 5 games to go and a good time to start hitting peak form. The Giants and the Packers hit it right at the perfect time. Same as several other sports, such as baseball.

Wabe

November 28th, 2012
9:23 pm

Big game tomorrow night…

It’s the Saints, that’s all that really needs to be said. I don’t care about their record or any of that other garbo.

I wanna see us lay a smackdown on them the way they did to us on MNF last season in the Superdome. I want there to be no question that we’re the better team. I wanna diminish any chance they have of making the postseason. I want them to be the game we look back on at the end of the season to say, ‘we clinched the NFC South after we beat them chumps’.

I wanna dominate. Like 50-0. Or 60-0.

But in all seriousness, I wanna dominate.

D3

November 28th, 2012
9:33 pm

And one more thing before I hit the pillow……….

You’re getting these swamp trash players such as Shanle and Lofton saying it’s not a rivalry. I know this pretty well since I’ve suffered on the same BS from the GA-FL rivalry. The Falcons-sAINTS have played for a long time, 86 times in fact. All we hear from the swamp trash and Pat Y is that the Falcons have lost 11 of 13……yada, yada, yada, yada. They love throwing this fact the same as they loved saying Florida had won 16 out of 21 as someone magically decided when the perfect cutoff date was for their special number. All we heard for years and years and years. And guess what? The Dawgs beat them last year and upset them this year when they were #2. Wonder if we’ll hear anymore about Florida dominating the rivalry next year?

Let’s take a look at these special numbers all these knuckle-draggers are throwing around……..

First of all let’s look at their 11 out of 13 BS. They love that magical cutoff with Sean Payton coming to town regardless of whatever was happening with the Falcons. Why not go back one more year when we swept them? That makes it 11 out of 15. Go back even another year and you have another split, which puts us at 12 out of 17. Sure, the recent history has swung there way and there’s no denying that. It happens sometimes in long-standing rivalries. 2 of the years they love including was 2006, which was lil’ Jimmy Mora’s last year collapse. The other was 2007 and do we really need to go there?

So just some final facts on the “non-rivalry” that the bitter, crybaby, douchebag loser Lofton says………

All time series: Falcons 46 – sAINTS 41

Largest Victory: Falcons 62 – sAINTS 7

Longest Streak: Falcons 10 games (1995 – 1999)

Postseason Series: Falcons 1 – sAINTS 0

Sure, they’ve had our number a little lately, but this @sshole Lofton is too busy crying his wittle eyes out because his wittle feewings were hurt when Atlanta thought so little of him that they were willing to offer him next to nothing and go with an unproven 3rd round draft pick that most people thought was a reach. Yeah, that seems to be working out pretty well, eh? How’s the switch to a 5-6 team where you’re the captain of the worst defense in the NFL?

:grin: :grin: :grin:

JB Falcon

November 28th, 2012
9:40 pm

Wabe, we’re al with you. Chill and wait, just like the rest of us. :)

D3

November 28th, 2012
9:45 pm

Wabe — Totally concur. I’m going in assuming it’ll be yet another nail-biter, but the situation sets up pretty similarly from last year. The first game was a nail-biter that the away team won. The Saints are leading the division and we’re wobbly just trying to make the post-season, and sure enough…bam, they whipped our @ss. You’ll hear no crying from me on that one because they deserved to win because they smoked us and embarrassed us bad. So, time to return the favor. However, I’m going in completely assuming it will be a BS close game as always, mainly because we can’t put it all together. Boy, sure would be nice to have another Philly, Denver, or San Diego game tomorrow night.

D3

November 28th, 2012
9:55 pm

Montana — Welcome to the Cage. But that’s one seriously pessimistic outlook buddy.

Big Ray / RE: Babin — Completely agree. It was one of those deals where, yeah, sure if we can get him for dirt cheap for the rest of the year, than who wouldn’t like some DE help for the final playoff push. But really, I’m taking the Edwards release as a blessing for guys like Cliff Matthews and Massaquoi (I’m excluding Sidbury because he might as well be released tomorrow for his inability to get on the field in 3+ years). I liked what I saw out of Matthews on Sunday. Sure, he only played 12 snaps. He was getting good push and collapsing the pocket, even if he wasn’t quite there. And since you and I are probably in agreement about needing a big boy DT in the worst way, did you see our rotation buddy DT Vance Walker’s snaps?…..48 snaps, 84%. I like Walker, really do, but he’s no frontline starter. Jerry is gone, Robertson is making his move, and adding a new big boy DT could give us a beast of DL going forward, either moving Babs to DE as he’s been, or having the following: Peters, #1 Draft Pick Big Boy DT (such as Bama’s Jesse Williams or UGA’s John Jenkins), Babs, Travian Robertson, Vance Walker. Yeah, let’s roll. Oh yeah, and sign DE Michael Johnson via free agency.

Chop Buster

November 28th, 2012
10:03 pm

Apparently Saints players have tweeted their bus got egged at Atlanta’s airport as they boarded. Oh-Oh!

Chop Buster

November 28th, 2012
10:07 pm

D3

November 28th, 2012
10:09 pm

One final point regarding the “running back situation” as described by Smitty…….

I have no problem with the committee and Turner being a part of the committee, but here’s where the problem comes in:

Play Percentage Chart

Jacquizz Rodgers – 31 snaps, 52%

Michael Turner – 23 snaps, 38%

Jason Snelling – 12 snaps, 20%

So looking only at the snaps, we can say, “hey, it’s all good Smitty is changing and giving the bulk of carries / touches to Quizz after all, right?”………..No wrong.

Look at the touches:

Turner – 13 carries, 3 rec = 16 touches

Rodgers – 10 carries, 2 rec = 12 touches

Snelling – 0 carries, 3 rec = 3 touches

Those percentages calculated come to Turner 52%, Rodgers 39%, Snelling 9%

I know this is a little nitpicky here, but my point is that regardless of how many snaps any of the three get, when Turner’s in the game there’s a very good chance he’s getting the ball, whereas we can’t say the same about Rodgers or Snelling, even though they’re more productive. I do admire Smitty for that “glacial pace change” that BR has mentioned, but let’s just switch the touches with Rodgers and Turner and I’ll be happy, that’s all.

Finally it,…….

Nite ‘all!

D3

November 28th, 2012
10:11 pm

Chop — Too funny. Or maybe Sir Drops A-Lot just dropped them on the bus since he’s dropped more passes than any receiver in the league. :lol:

Chop Buster

November 28th, 2012
10:18 pm

D3, now that is funny! :D

DHunt

November 28th, 2012
10:24 pm

People who continue to ASSume the 2012 Falcons are the same as the 2010 Falcons are really mot paying attention. That 2010 team played it’s best football to get to 13-3. The 2012 team is playing below the standard that even our worst critics know we can play, and winning anyway. The 2010 team had two mediocre coordinators who didn’t make any adjustments at any time. The 2012 team can and will do whatever it takes to win. The 2010 team didn’t have Julio Jones. 2012 Falcons have the best receiver tandem (or threesome) in the league bar none.

The Falcons get no credit for being a more mature team, with more experience, and showing more depth, and the ability to win games more than one way. Other teams, that have obviously lost a step (like the Giants with almost a total lack of a running game now) but everyone wants to believe they are the same team that won two Super Bowls.

Can’t wait until we get to the Super Bowl (while Lofton sits at home and cries in his Cheerios), and all the talking heads have to go back over the film and recognize all the great things this 2012 Falcons team has done to earn each and every victory.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
6:46 am

Dhunt – Good post.

You’re right about the maturity factor and what not. That, and some veteran leadership. Sean Weatherspoon has taken this defense to a different level under Mike Nolan, and nothing was more gutsy than the play of Dunta Robinson against Tampa, along with Asante Samuel…especially his final play in the endzone. Wow….

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
6:49 am

D3 ,

Agreed on Cliff Matthews. Dude needs more burn, as does Travian Robertson. Speed up that Apprenticeship program a few notches.

I’d definitely take a big DT in this upcoming draft. Only question is whether we should add a OL player first, then a DT in the second. What do you think? I know we have Holmes and Konz to work with already, but that’s just two guys and we don’t seem to know what to do with our PS and UDFAs when it comes to that. Valdez and Bryce Harris come to mind.

I thought SW had an interesting suggestion to go with Stepfan Taylor (RB) in the first round….and while I always respect what he has to say and usually agree with most of it in draft conversations….I just can’t get behind that one right now. I’m still thinking OL and DL….war is won in the trenches.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
6:56 am

Lofton is still bitter. Because in the end, he still didn’t get paid what he felt he was worth, so he’s got no swag (and Tampa realized Mason Foster is as good or better in the long term)….his is a dying breed…a run stuff-only MLB who is not a playmaker of note. Those are no longer the lynchpin of a defense.

And when I say that, here’s a perfect example of playmaking below…and consider that Lofton has played every snap possible while healthy for the Saints. Dent gets to play probably half that number of snaps.

Lofton – 4 tackles behind the line of scrimmage (known as “stuffs”)

Dent – 5 tackles behind the line of scrimmage.

Just sayin’….I think our money was well spent.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
7:09 am

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
7:25 am

sAints have major problems at RT. Bryce Harris (who was once on our PS) broke his leg (I think he did it on purpose, lol…ok not really) getting in there last week as the 3rd RT they’ve had. Zach Strief might play, but he’s not fully healthy by a long shot. And they have nothing else besides some dude that used to be a bouncer at a bar in L.A.

We should be finding ways to take advantage of this…

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
7:55 am

BR (6:49)-”I’m still thinking OL and DL….war is won in the trenches.” I couldn’t agree more. We haven’t built our lines the right way, instead we’ve been putting band aids on it. I hope that Nolan lets TD and Smitty know how imperative it is we fix the DL once and for all. We haven’t had a real front 4 pass rush since probably the 1998 DL.

Wings

November 29th, 2012
7:57 am

Big Ray it wouldn’t be fair to take advantage of that situation.

BAZINGA!

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
8:00 am

Big Ray the Taints seem to like taking Falcon players. I see that they even have Raphael Bush now. Anyway, I hope we don’t let them dictate as they did the last game. We need to get pressure up the middle either with a LB blitz, or DL stunts along with the edge rushers. And for God sake our DL need to put their hands up when he throws the ball. The guy is tip-toeing to get the ball down the field. Also, we need to play Brees’ trio (Colston, Moore and Graham) tight if we’re going to give our guys a chance to get to Brees. We all know that without Brees the Taints are just another team–and not a good one at that.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
8:50 am

Also, we need to play Brees’ trio (Colston, Moore and Graham) tight if we’re going to give our guys a chance to get to Brees. Chop Buster

I agree CB, but with one caveat. IMO, we blanket Graham, they can’t beat us with the other two (Colton, Moore). 49′ers minimized him (Graham) in their win.

Zoomie

November 29th, 2012
8:51 am

Again, in the interest of being fair, I have to give credit where it’s due.

I’ve bagged pretty hard on Clabo since last season. He’s really stood out as a liability on the right side, getting pushed around in the run game and whiffing his blocks way too often in pass protection. On the whole, he’s had a much better year in pass protection. However, against TB he had a strong showing in the run game. Maybe he just works better on the move as opposed to being a power blocker. With the methods they used to get the ball to Quizz and Snelling, he was on the move much more, picking up his blocks in space. Maybe he and Konz are just starting to get it together.

I’ve thrown quite a few curses at Clabo over the last two seasons, it’s only fair that I give him credit when he turns in a good performance.

Tonight, I’ll definitely keep an eye on the O-line to see if the Falcons are starting to gel on that right side. Of course, Ken Strickland seems to be the resident expert on O-line play. I’d be interested to read his observations and opinions on the subject.

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
9:21 am

Somebody: historically Lance Moore has been another issue for the Falcons defense to resolve. I don’t know why Dunta just doesn’t light him up sneaking across the middle like Goldson did.

Zoomie: all I know is they need to give McClure help up the middle. The Taints DL has been jail breaking through our A Gaps–that’s why Ryan hasn’t been able to step up and Turner gets submarined before he can take a step. Taints DL has been exploiting this since last year.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:32 am

Two GAME DAYs in one week? I thought Christmas was next month.

The Falcons, like the fans, can only put up with being beaten by these Aints for so long. Today, I think they’ll hit that much harder and be that much more focused, and we’ll come up with a convincing win.

Falcons 38, Saints 24.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
10:09 am

What’s up my Cage Family…

Again, thanks for all the care and concern during my recent loss. Been busy as all hell getting back into the groove of things. But slowly but surely, like death and taxes, I will be back to full stroke in very short order.

Can clinch a playoff berth tonight in the Dome. And I think we will get it done. It is time for the Falcons to make the statement they need to make on the big stage.

Zoomie

November 29th, 2012
10:14 am

“Zoomie: all I know is they need to give McClure help up the middle. The Taints DL has been jail breaking through our A Gaps–that’s why Ryan hasn’t been able to step up and Turner gets submarined before he can take a step. Taints DL has been exploiting this since last year.”

Didn’t think about that. Maybe Clabo’s doing better because they rotated more help his way, weakening the middle. I haven’t really noticed a huge problem with MR2 not being able to step up in the pocket, I just think his pockets are a little more fleeting, in general, than we’d all like to see. I’ll go back and check on that middle rush, and watch for it tonight.

I think it’s obvious that McClure’s better days are behind him, and he’s playing more due to what he brings to the game cerebrally, as opposed to physically. If the Aints exploited the middle last game, I’d expect an adjustment for this one. It should be a no-brainer, as the Aints end-pressure isn’t really the stuff of legend.

Heck, you never know in a game of this magnitude. Those Aints DE’s may really step it up. Maybe they’ll take some Viagra or something . . .

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
10:15 am

Now, to my Cocoa Mel alter ego.

The TeePee will stand with the Stepfan Taylor selection. Those that know how the TeePee rolls will tell you that we are very careful when we initiate our attachment to a particular player. And when we are on a wagon very early in the draft board process, we are usually very strong about that guy.

While I understand the feelings of several of my Cage brethern regarding the OL and the DL, I am confident that the inability to effectively run the football is a greater issue for the team than the trenches at this moment.

We can resolve the issues in the trenches with minor modifications in the scheme. I will say that we need to do a better job of acquiring talent in the OL/DL arena.

But right now, this team has a very good QB. We have a very god pair of WRs. We will need to look for a TE if TG88 retires next spring (will discuss that in a later posting). But the MOST pressing need on offense now is a quality running back. I love Quizz but he is a third down and situational specialist. Little man is not capable of being the long term answer. But give me Taylor and Quizz as a one-two punch…..LOOK OUT!! Power and explosion on demand. It will be a lethal addition to an offense that is already one of the league’s greatest emerging threats.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
10:21 am

The OL does need some modifications. I personally think it is a year late. Konz would be playing center for the Falcons if I had my way. Dude was the best center in the past draft and it is where he should be playing. We should have drafted a TRUE guard in the third round and groomed that young man to step in as the season progressed or for sure in 2013.

I still think we missed a golden opportunity in not moving Clabo inside and acquiring a tackle. So, we can make some adjustments along the OL in the offseason. The TeePee will address that in later postings.

But for now…the Stepfan Taylor Falcon draft train is on the tracks. Best player available at a position of CRITICAL need for the Falcons. Plain and simple.

If you have one (position and player), I’m all ears.

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
10:22 am

Zoomie – “Those Aints DE’s may really step it up. Maybe they’ll take some Viagra or something . . .” LOL, I see you heard that segment as well.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
10:24 am

Zoomie, Konz is the answer to the center issues.

Konz, Blalock, and Clabo inside would form a very impressive wall, a secure pocket, and a nice drive element in the ZBS, thus facilitating an improved rushing attack.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
10:31 am

If the Falcons are determined to stay more power blocking than ZBS, then I have an OL draft piece that would be worth a look.

From the same OL that gave us Peter Konz, I would offer the man that played next to him at guard and filled in for him at center when he was injured. That man is Travis Fredrick. A massive man at 6′5 and 335 pounds, he is a BEDROCK at the guard position. Again, the Blalock/Konz/Fredrick trio would provide a power interior for the Falcons. This would give us a OL along the lines of the Giamts rather than the effective ZBS mode of the Texans.

Again, stay tuned. But there are two nuggets for you. Stepfan Taylor at RB and Travis Fredrick at OG (moving Konz to center).

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
10:36 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnRUYPmW4Cs

The clip is a little long. But Fredrick (#72) is the man in the middle. You be the judge. He can play the center or guard. I think he will be there in the second or third for us to take in the upcoming draft. Will have to watch his combine efforts.

But you know what you are getting with Wisconsin linemen.

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
10:40 am

SW, we don’t have the personnel to power block–never have–but yet we continue to do so. Why do you think that is?

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
10:41 am

SW, also I don’t know if it’s Smitty being loyal to his vets (McClure) or not, but he doesn’t have Konz projected even as McClure’s replacement. What does he know that we don’t?

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:45 am

“You’re right about the maturity factor and what not. That, and some veteran leadership. Sean Weatherspoon has taken this defense to a different level under Mike Nolan, and nothing was more gutsy than the play of Dunta Robinson against Tampa, along with Asante Samuel…especially his final play in the endzone. Wow….” -Big Ray

Exactly. I think Sean W. is the heart of that defense. I am amazed how Nolan was able to keep the defense respectable while he was gone. But, Spoon is back, and he has a game under his belt to get full speed ready. I expect a monster game from him, and less running yards for the Saints. I think Brees is going to get a whole new monster Thursday night.

Also, have you seen the SFX from the Tampa-Falcons game? Here’s the link:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/0ap2000000102254/Sound-FX-Falcons-Buccaneers

There is a part where Spoon is hyping the guys on the sideline after that second touchdown Tampa made. I love this guy’s moxie!

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
10:52 am

Chop, I concur with your assessment. I am on record as saying that Smitty has no clue when it comes to offensive football. Konz should have been a center from day one. Yes he is versatile but dude is a stud and he was the BEST center in the draft. Everyone knew that.

Blalock (330), Konz (315), Frederick (335). Now if you want to roll with that, that is the epitome of power. Frederick is a stone wall. The video shows that cuz does not get trucked.

Again, Wisconsin linemen are well trained and fundamentally solid.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
10:52 am

***FFL***

SW, Glad too see you back in the SBBC scraping the barrel. War eagles left some droppings that may be a good pickup. Had to trim the dead weight, which will prob come back and bite me. Looks like the top 8 are locks for the post season so congrats. Your team did well on auto-pilot the last few weeks!

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
10:54 am

Shotgun / BR

If you think Spoon is a beast now, just imagine him in a 3-4 scheme under Nolan. Trust me when I tell you. We have STILL yet to see the FULL package from Sean Weatherspoon.

I watched this kid closely at Mizzou. I brought the Spoon Express into the cage. This dude has the potential and upside, if he can stay away from the little injuries, to be one of the all time greats.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
10:55 am

JJ, thanks.

It is not what I wanted it to be but the Newsome model has served me well this season. A playoff berth is almost assured which was the goal. Get to the dance and let’s roll from there.

Are you going to the game tonight?

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:02 am

BR, Frederick gives us that OL presence I think you are looking for.

As you recall, I am not sold on Mr. Holmes but will give the benefit of the doubt. I certainly want to see something in the off season to raise my level of interest/excitement regarding him. And I think Baker is back in ATL at LT next season. Mark it down……

JJ

November 29th, 2012
11:06 am

Na, Last time I went to a taints game I almost shoved one of those stupid umbrellas up a taint, idiot wouldnt lower it during the game. With my new love for them this yr, its best I watch from home! ;)

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:09 am

Big Ray,

You talked about the need to strengthen the DL. Well, I have no issue with that but I, deeply desiring a 3-4, will shift my pass rush from the line to the outside linebackers. And there also, I have a target on the board.

Stanford’s Chase Thomas. He can play outside linebacker with the best of them. He can be effective in the 4-3 as a strongside LB but I love what he could bring as a pass-rush OLB specialist in a 3-4.
He is 6′4, 245, and has a frame that could allow for a little more bulk while not altering speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv3tkp8O_6c

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:10 am

LOL..I feel you. We are going to have to work out something. You have a trophy that I have to deliver to you. Are you rolling in for the Giants game?

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:11 am

Cage Family, you may already have noticed but I REALLY like what a couple of the Stanford players could do for the ATL football team.

D3

November 29th, 2012
11:16 am

SW — Great to see you back brother! As always, love your early draft predictions and Cocoa Mel analysis. Haven’t checked him out yet, but based on your experience, you know I trust you. Will check out one Stephan Taylor during the bowl season. I’ve had some guys that I wanted turn out pretty darn well too. I highly advocated for Clay Matthews, Brian Cushing, DeMarco Murray, Eric Decker, Torrey Smith, Ryan Kerrigan. and a slew of others. It really is fun to see some of the guys you follow in the draft pan out in the NFL. It’s always, “oh yeah, I wanted the Falcons to draft that guy.”

CBS Sports Draft has Taylor slotted for the 2nd or 3rd round. You think there’s any way we could get him in the 2nd? Probably not where (hopefully) we’ll be slotted in draft order. I know many won’t agree with you, but just saying that “you can get a feature back in the 3rd round or later” I think is a little deceiving. Look at what the Bucs got and they moved up in the first round to get him. It doesn’t appear to be a very deep RB class to be completely honest and there’s NOTHING in the way of free agency. My ultimate fear is that if we wait too late on an RB, we A) won’t get one that’s any better than Quizz (who I have high hopes for), and B) we’ll bring back Tip-Toe Turner for yet another year and as we know very well, if he’s on the roster, by goodness, Smitty’s going to force him in.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:18 am

tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDMUzj7zymg

More Chase Thomas…

JJ

November 29th, 2012
11:18 am

SW, Hold on to it for now buddy, well have to add “2012″ to it in a couple of weeks!

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:22 am

D3, great to be back in the mix, my brother. Thanks for letting me come home.

You can see some Matthews like tendencies in Chase Thomas.

Totally agree with your comments on the back drafting. It is a critical need for the Falcons. And if Taylor is there near the end of the first, he has to be the man. The upside is too high. Just look at Doug Martin and what he bring to the Bucs. Stepfan is the same weapon with a MUCH bettter OC to work with.

I am in the Jerry Reese/Ozzie Newsome mold. Best player available at the position of most critical need. For me, it is RB and the man is Taylor.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:22 am

LOL..

I hear you, JJ..

Zoomie

November 29th, 2012
11:23 am

“New Orleans Saints team charter reportedly egged in Atlanta” – By Jeff Duncan, NOLA.com/The Times-Picayune

Why all the fuss? Don’t they know Atlantans are conditioned to feed refugees from New Orleans? In keeping with past history, I’m sure as soon as the bus was loaded, it was escorted directly to the Fulton County Jail.

D3

November 29th, 2012
11:24 am

I also completely agree with you on the OL. You get full credit on coming up with that move on moving Clabo inside and moving either Sam Baker to the right side or perhaps Garrett Reynolds could make a move. I guess there’s a chance that Hawley could be the future at OC, but that seems to dwindling by the week. You and I couldn’t be any farther apart on Lamar Holmes. I see franchise LT all over him, but I know you still don’t care for the pick.

It’s still VERY early, but right now I’m rolling with a Big Boy DT in the first round and this is the year to grab one. I haven’t taken very close looks as of yet, but two that are on my radar are playing in The Dome on Saturday: Bama’s Jesse Williams (320) or UGA’s John Jenkins (358). Jenkins may not be first round material as of yet, but when Vance Walker is taking 84% of your snaps (more than Peters by the way), it’s time to invest in that behemoth DT for Mike Nolan to ramp up the defense to all-time high. Get a big boy DT and watch some of these other guys truly flourish (Abe, Bier, Babs, Peters, Cliff Matt, Mass). Of course we could always wait til’ later, but DT (especially big boy DT, 320+) seem to be a pretty deep class this year. Would love the Star kid from Utah, but seems he’ll be long gone. If not that, I could roll with best available OG, RB, or DE.

Think we’ll be OK with Michael Palmer and Chase Coffman for a year or so until we can either sign or groom our own TE, or just draft one high in 2014. And we could always convince Gonzo to come back for one more year, even though it really seems as though he might actually be done. I also think that one reason HD and our slots don’t get as many touches / looks is because of Gonzo. I think that they’re somewhat mutually exclusive, at least in Koetters offense and at least that’s my hope.

Good stuff.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:28 am

D3, we in the Cage have a darn good record, a collective effort, when it comes to assessing the Falcons and making the selections. While I love the bold nature in which CBrass called the JJ11 move, the Decker or Smith selections could have been rewarding for us as well.

Daring is what it takes when it comes to the draft. We dare to think bold in the Cage. You did it with the Kerrigan call. CBrass went there with the JJ11 call. Remember the heat I took with both Spoon and Aldon Smith?

It is a hit and miss game. For each Spoon I have called, I missed with a Zebrie Sanders. But we keep coming back and taking the best shot we can. I love it!! I love being the Cocoa Mel….

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:33 am

Nothing but respect for the way we agree to disagree. And you know me. If I am wrong, I will be the first to man up. Recall I was anti Hip Hip Peria. Never liked the pick but give dude props for his work to get back to what we thought he could be. Dunta Robinson…overrrated but dude is a hitting fool at times; can’t cover a cupcake but will knock the hell out of you.

Holmes…I made a mistake and let myself be blinded by my admiration of Zebrie. Want to be fair and see what he could bring to the mix. And we will see in 2013 I hope.

But the OL target I want the Falcons to go after is the aforementioned Travis Frederick. I love this guy as a guard opposite Blalock and Konz (my choice for center of the future). This would allow us one more year with Clabo on the outside or perhaps, Mike Johnson could FINALLY show the hope we had when he was taken a few years back.

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
11:37 am

SW (10:52) – Agreed that Wisconsin puts out some of the top OLmen in the league. It’s funny how certain schools seem to excel at certain positions.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:40 am

Agree on the Coffman re-signing. I think he could be an element in the attack going forward. As far as the big tackle goes, I can see your logic. But if we were to roll with smaller, attacking tackles in the 3-4, which is possible, I would be cool with it IF the LBs behind them are beasts!!

Chase Thomas and Sean Weatherspoon on the outside with the Bier Truck and a LB to be determined would be formidable inside. Could Dent be that man? He did explode on the scene as a 3-4 LB but was he an inside or outside LB. Will defer to my Dawg counterpart on that for analysis.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
11:41 am

Chop, you are so right. And if they are of the Wisconsin line, they are ready to roll when they arrive, barring injury.

Arno

November 29th, 2012
12:01 pm

LB to be determined: Great story about a LB on the practice squad that LRD posted. Also gives some insights to the world of Flowery Branch. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/magazine/the-hard-life-of-an-nfl-long-shot.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=todayspaper

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

Arno, I like this kid. He has heart and gut; reminds me a lot of former Falcon Coy Wire.

The Time is NOW

November 29th, 2012
12:31 pm

Hi Cage! Just a quick dodge in to say I am amped about the game tonight. Also, just a tad nervous. I don’t think I’m gonna like where we are for this year if we don’t win this one. I hope we run ‘em out of the dome, but will be happy with a win.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
12:51 pm

I’m telling you, Cagers, my stokedness can’t get any more fired up! This work day is like an unimportant blur. I am not too optimistic or pessimistic, I am just right!!@!!!!!!

I want to see some gold and black butts on the turf tonight and I want to see the glorious Brees sitting on the bench, gazing up at the scoreboard showing an insurmountable lead and contemplating tears, while our crowd serenades these arrogant sons of the sewer with my favorite selection….HEY HEY GOOD BYE!!

Then, I will rise from my Lazy Boy, go to the fridge, grab an egg, and drive down to the airport’s edge and throw it up at that plane full of aching losers as it takes off!!!

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arno

November 29th, 2012
12:53 pm

NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
on November 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM, updated November 29, 2012 at 11:31 AM

The Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport has confirmed eggs were thrown at the New Orleans Saints bus shortly after their airplane landed there Wednesday night. It has been reported that airport workers threw eggs at the bus while shouting, “GET OFF MY TARMAC !!!”

LRD

November 29th, 2012
12:56 pm

Cannot wait for tonight. Already on edge.. and have only 7.5hrs to go.. day is dragging sitting here waiting…

D3

November 29th, 2012
1:04 pm

Time is Now — Pitch-perfect post @ 12:31 pm. I can learn to live with it like I always do, but if we drop this one and don’t do well in the postseason, it will be a loooooooooong off-season. I’m assuming it’ll be another nail-biter, but would love to be proven wrong and just destroy their swamp trash @ss.

D3

November 29th, 2012
1:07 pm

RE: Eggs — Our fans shouldn’t have done it and I surely don’t condone it, but it always amazes me how the sAINTS and their fans always play the poor, wittle victims that are always picked on. When reality says they are the the most obnoxious, vitriolic, outrageous, lying, cheating, pieces of trash in all of sports. And their cheating, lying, injurous, unethical bounty program proves it. Remember Drew Brees “demanding to see the evidence from Roger Goodell” and “our witchhunt on bountygate is the same as the Iraq war” garbage? I think Greg Mendel said when he lost all respect for them. Mine was after they beat us in 2010 and pissed on our logo, but any shred of respect that was left was gone after the bountygate, cover-up, and denial. Not only was that bad enough, but their refusal to acknowledge or take responsibility for it was even worse. I used to think I hated the Eagles, Cowboys, Bears, Yankees, Mets, Phillies, etc. Wow, was I naive.

D3

November 29th, 2012
1:15 pm

Absolutely great article from Mark Bradley………

http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2012/11/28/isnt-it-high-time-the-falcons-hushed-the-yapping-saints/?cxntfid=blogs_mark_bradley_blog

And here’s the best quote of them all:

Said linebacker Curtis Lofton: “I kind of hoped we’d go back to New Orleans, especially with the way they did us.”

How times have changed, huh Crybaby Curtis?

Arno

November 29th, 2012
1:20 pm

The eggs thing was pretty poor. Something an agent provocateur would do. But because the airport workers did it in the open, it’s a little less unclassy. It’s the grenade in my hand that worries me more. I took the pin out, and it makes it hard to type. I’m joking, I’m joking…

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
1:23 pm

Winning is great. Dominating is even better. But killing the Saint’s playoff hopes? Icing on the cake…

LRD

November 29th, 2012
1:24 pm

Guess they will be extra pat downs at the dome tonight.. and enough eggs confiscated to make the worlds biggest omelet. Hope the Birds dont lay an egg.. or we get eggs on our face, and Lofton is the Benedict in it…. I’ll stop now..

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
1:25 pm

I’m jacked.

The eggs thing was hilarious.

Now our players better come out and make a statement like these airport dudes did. They better be as jacked as those dudes were.

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
1:28 pm

I ain’t gonna lie…I wished they had slapped Brees and his boys with those eggs–forget the bus.

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
1:33 pm

BR (1:23) – well said! Let’s end that glimmer of playoff hope tonight.

Zoomie

November 29th, 2012
1:43 pm

To paraphrase a line from Rob Roy:

“I shall think of the Aints playoff hopes as dead until my Falcons make them so; then, I shall think on them no more!”

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
1:46 pm

Heard about the prank on the radio this morning. Personally, I think it makes fans like me, who aren’t prone to throwing things, look bad. But whatever. I can’t control anyone’s actions but my own.

A lot has been said about there being a “mental hurdle” the Falcons need to get over regarding the Saints. I completely agree. You can’t be this close to locking up the division, having been successful all season, and let a third-rate team like the Saints continue to beat you. It’s like having your retirement-age dad beat you at basketball even though he has chronic back pain. That’s not okay.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
1:54 pm

Zoomie ,

I actually think Konz has been what happened with Clabo. Clabo struggled since Dahl left…playing next to Reynolds, Hawley, briefly next to Baker.

Konz has helped him, I think. Clabo made the Pro Bowl next to Dahl. Hasn’t played as well since. I do take into account the injuries, and Clabo’s technique. But it seems to me that he’s not a “stand alone” talent. He’s a guy that needs help.

Then again, maybe I’m giving the physical Konz credit just because I like the guy as a starting RG.

Like to see him take over for McClure at Center just as easily…of course, that opens up the RG spot all over again…

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
2:05 pm

I think the egg event is a microcosm of the fans’ relation to the teams, and each other, and it is partly the players’ fault for their mundane approach to this divisional rivalry. The players are insisting this isn’t personal, on both sides (except Roddy and he’s not allowed to talk), and we hear the regurgitated “division game” or “business trip” or “we’re more concerned with ourselves” crap. Then you have the fans on both sides and their interactions, which are nothing short of hateful on a daily basis. The venom is spewing back and forth and yet all we hear from the players is PC commentary of the rich and famous, and gush, gush, gush. It is aggravating beyond description to us fans when another team pisses on your field and our QB and coach just throws roses about them as a team, like nothing happened. I would rather Matt or Smitty just didn’t say anything except “I can’t wait”, or like Turner said on the Network when asked to comment about the Saints, “We play them in 3 days.” That’s all he would say. Bravo, Michael.

What I’m saying is for the players to play the part of being hurt AND INSULTED instead of leaving it up to us fans to vent in our own idiotic (some say) way.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
2:25 pm

Big Ray

The guard issue could be solved by taking his running mate from Wisconsin, Travis Frederick. Bigger than Konz and just as technically sound.

SeminoleWarrior

November 29th, 2012
2:28 pm

Frederick and Konz could be interchangeable as well. And we know what we are getting when it comes to the capabilites of Wisconsin linemen.

About to roll north towards the Dome…got to get a jump on the traffic that I will probably encounter as I approach from the south metro.

See you all on the other side…GO FALCONS. Will be keeping it real in section 209!! I’m out.

Zoomie

November 29th, 2012
2:58 pm

RE: Big Ray’s 1:54.

You’re probably right. His injury may be better, plus he’s starting to click with Konz. Where Clabo stood out the most in the TB game was on the edge rushes, where he pulled around the corner and walled off the attacking LBs. He really seemed to move well when he was called to block in space. It kind of surprised me after seeing him practically trip over his own feet in pass protection at times.

Anyway, I’ve been hard on the guy, but he had a good game against Tampa.

I’ve seen some other things that get me a little excited about the Falcons moving forward, but I don’t want to bring it up just yet. I’m afraid I’ll jinx ‘em. (Been a Falcons fan since the team came into Atlanta in ‘66. I’m conditioned. I think I’m the one who inspired the series of commercials with Stevie W’s “Superstition.”)

Coop

November 29th, 2012
4:10 pm

Afternoon Cage – I’ve been stewing all day on this game. So nervous I can’t eat. I’ll be a wreck by game time. I loved Bradley’s article and think he nailed it. It’s time for this team to take that step and start making believers. I think it’s important for the player’s psyche. The coaches too.

One thing is CERTAIN… it’s important for my psyche!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
4:34 pm

Coop ,

Talk about a nervous wreck (though I’m really excited, is all)….it’s a good thing I’m on duty today and tomorrow…or I’d be looking for sort of libation to loosen myself up. LOL

Coop

November 29th, 2012
4:37 pm

BR – Just glad I’m in garrison. Don’t need to have my weapon on me with this kind of tension unless I’m down range.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
4:40 pm

Seminole Warrior ,

I am completely down with that. Get Konz’s teammate for RG and let him take the Center position. Agreed with everyone else….draft Wisconsin OL guys all day long.

I get what you’re saying about going for a LB over a big NT. I’m guessing this will have to do more with availability of personnel when we pick.

For example, if the LB you’re after is a major playmaking type (and I know you…you wouldn’t bring up the name if he wasn’t), then you forgo the NT until later rounds…the only wrinkles in that plan could be the following.

1) If the targeted LB is not on the board when we pick…and the drop-off to the “next best guy” is significant. In which case, you’re probably better off grabbing the NT instead.

2) The top rated NT is still on the board and he’s damn good. Can you not get other playmaking LBs later in the draft?

Which is better? Drafting a big NT in later rounds or drafting more LBs in later rounds?

Then of course, there might be a darn good OL player available, throwing the whole thing out of whack.

In the end, it may be better to draft the LBs (youth, more LBs like Spoon to play with and learn from), and save the NT for free agency.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
4:43 pm

LOL@ Coop …..welllllll….I have my issued Glock 22 and my issued mossberg 590….which one you wanna borrow? LOL

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
4:44 pm

Zoomie ,

Funny thing about that. I have given the guy some hell too…but I must admit I haven’t heard his name called lately (for whiffing a block or for generating a stupid penalty). And so I forgot about him…how very much like a fan, eh?

You’re right…he deserves credit for getting his job done. Now he really needs to do that job tonight.

Do you think the style of play you described (turning and walling off LBs on some of the runs) is partially due to the part-time zone blocking system we seem to use?

Wings

November 29th, 2012
5:30 pm

Coop and Big Ray,

I don’t want D3 to have to write a new blog similar to the previous NO blogs he wrote in December 2011 and 2010. I went back and read them and they are not pretty.

Greg Mendel

November 29th, 2012
5:59 pm

I’m not making any predictions (don’t want egg on my face). I’ve come to anticipate every Birds vs. Blossoms game with pessimism. I would love a Falcon win, and love it even more if it turns out to be a wipeout. But, I’ll say this: if the Birds get behind by 10 points early, I’m not sure I can watch the rest of the game. IMO, we’d better schedule the 2-minute offense for the first two minutes of the game — and for every two minutes after that.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
6:28 pm

Saints-Falcons: What to watch Another tough test for Saints’ pass defenseBy Matt Williamson
New Orleans at Atlanta
When: 8:20 PM ET
Watch: NFL
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More scouting reports: Week 13
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After watching film of both teams, Scouts Inc. breaks down key elements of the Week 13 Saints-Falcons matchup.

• Slow down Julio and company: Atlanta has some serious weaponry and is one of the elite passing teams in the NFL. Despite fighting injuries, Julio Jones racked up 147 receiving yards last week and is a matchup nightmare for every defense he faces, while Tony Gonzalez and Roddy White remain as steady as ever. Wide receivers, tight ends and quarterbacks have posted gigantic numbers against the Saints’ defense — and that could continue again in Week 13. The Falcons’ receiving corps has dropped a lot of passes this year, though.

• Slow down Graham: The Falcons have been outstanding slowing down opposing wide receivers, but RB Darren Sproles and especially TE Jimmy Graham could be a big problem for this Falcons’ defense. Much of what New Orleans does with its passing game is predicated on generating favorable matchups for Graham, who is really a bad matchup for any defensive player in the NFL. Graham didn’t have a big game last week, though, and has been plagued by a lot of drops this year. That could mean he is due for an explosion against the division-leading Falcons.

• Eliminate the run: New Orleans’ run defense, horrid for much of the season, has improved of late, and the Falcons’ rushing attack offers very little to get excited about right now. Broderick Bunkley is the Saints’ best run defender and New Orleans should be rather effective in clogging up the middle of the field. Clearly, Atlanta’s Michael Turner is not an outside runner at this point of his career. In fact, he offers very little other than some straight-ahead power, which is why Atlanta would be wise to further incorporate Jacquizz Rodgers as the primary ball carrier.

• Home QB: Matt Ryan threw for 353 yards in Week 12 with a high percentage of short, precise passing. He has been playing at a near-MVP level all season and clearly has an excellent understanding of this offense as a whole. Opponents have been lighting up the Saints’ pass defense on blitzes, but Ryan has been much more effective when facing four or fewer pass-rushers. New Orleans didn’t record a sack and Ryan was sacked only once last week. Ryan also is a very good play-action passer and the Falcons’ offense executes play-action even when the running game isn’t effective.

• Away QB: Like Ryan, Drew Brees is playing tremendous football once again. He can be a risk-taker but has pinpoint accuracy while also being outstanding on third downs. The Falcons’ pass defense has been much better when it brings additional pressure and can be diverse with its blitz packages. John Abraham remains one of the most effective pass-rushers in the league off the edge. The Saints’ offensive line is decimated by injuries right now and Brees was sacked five times last week.

• Key positional battle — Saints’ RBs vs. Falcons’ LBs: Since Joe Vitt has taken over the head-coaching duties, New Orleans has really stressed a power running game with its diverse stable of running backs. Although New Orleans can throw a multitude of personnel groupings at the opponent, it is predominantly a 21 personnel offense (two running backs, one tight end), which has changed from years past. The offensive line has excelled under these circumstances, but the Saints could muster only 59 rushing yards last week with Sproles back in the mix. Run defense, especially against power schemes, has been a problem for Atlanta this season. As a result, the Falcons have gone to more of a heavier look with their defensive line, employing more defensive tackles at defensive end. But the Falcons’ were great against Doug Martin last week and the return of LB Sean Weatherspoon had a lot to do with that success.

• Featured player: Marques Colston is rarely mentioned among the elite wide receivers in football. That makes sense; he doesn’t have great speed and clearly benefits quite a bit from those around him. But he also uses his great size extremely well and catches everything thrown his way. Colston is Brees’ go-to guy and the big wideout almost always delivers. Opposite Colston is Lance Moore. As a third or fourth receiving option in the passing game, you can’t do much better than Moore, who also obviously has great trust from Brees in any area of the field.

• Film room nuggets: Although it has improved, the Saints just don’t generate enough of a pass rush overall. Will Smith’s play in particular has dropped off noticeably. Compounding matters is that New Orleans’ coverage players are also subpar. That is a massive problem against Ryan and company this week. … Sproles has returned, but it is interesting to see if this coaching staff (minus Sean Payton) can employ him as well as he was used in previous seasons. This is especially true as a receiving weapon, as Payton aligned him all over the formation to produce great matchups for this unique running back.

Prediction
Atlanta 35
New Orleans 34 The Falcons are in the driver’s seat for home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs. On a short week, the home team gets the win in a shootout.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
6:50 pm

Gotta love Deion and 21 and prime.
Didnt like when he proclaimed this was his house when he was with SF/Dallas but hes a falcon fan and after all the iffy bs, damn glad he wore the red and black!!!
Hes a great ambassador to this franchise on national tv.
The brass/ego kid has grown up to a brass/ego man and I love it!

JB Falcon

November 29th, 2012
7:00 pm

Thanks for the post JJ, now, can you make the game start? Let’s get this done!!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
7:06 pm

Asante will play. He’s injured, but he will tough it out.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
7:13 pm

For the first time ever, feeling good vibes about this game on nat tv agaist taints. Also had same vibe last night with powerball!

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
7:16 pm

Honestly, if this isn’t a convincing, dominating win, I don’t see the Falcons getting much respect either way. Skating by with a three-point win and another fourth-quarter comeback will just allow the critics to say “It took all they had to beat a desperate team with a losing record”, even if it is a win against the Saints.

I wonder if the team feels as strongly about this game as the fans do…but I still think we win this one.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
7:17 pm

JJ: If you win that half a billion, maybe you can pay the pundits to quit being stupid.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
7:20 pm

This is our night man…

I feel it. I wanna see a beatdown, and actually feel it’s possible. I think the fanbase is jacked up. Saints coming off a physical game against the Niners on a shortweek.

We got Spoon.

I’m oober confident we deliver a blow to the Saints playoff hopes. How the game will be played is what I’ll be looking for. Beatdown or another nailbiter?

Forget the respect card, because I don’t see us getting any until the playoffs anyways. We’ve waited 13 weeks or so for respect, haven’t gotten any thus far. I can wait another month or so and earn it in the playoffs.

Sportaree

November 29th, 2012
7:21 pm

Speaking of tv, directv customers may lose CBS programs Nov. 30th at midnight and that means no Ga.- Ala. coverage.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
7:21 pm

Sorry shotgun, your always Big Lou to me. Why change your moniker during the season…but I love your post regardless of what “popular name” you like. Your BL but after witnessing a lack of shotgun formations your now shotgun??? lol, ok buddy but I was fine with your original name. No biggie, no offense…just a little silly in my book.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
7:23 pm

Asante is the man. Whether he makes a huge play or not, he’ll have earned a solid break after this one.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
7:39 pm

Snack, IF I won that 500 mil, Id take all cagers to piss city to watch our falcons first superbowl win!

Geo

November 29th, 2012
7:40 pm

I would love to see the Birds stomp the Taints, but these contests are usually playoff type, so I think the best we can hope for is that they play well and make one or two extra, difference-maker plays. And I don’t care what the pundits say about that. (well, yeah, I do, but eff ‘em). When we’re a team that can curb stomp another team in a playoff or playoff type game, we will have really turned a corner. But I’ll take three point wins all the way to the Superbowl, no problem.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
7:40 pm

Wabe, agree buddy!

Greg Mendel

November 29th, 2012
7:45 pm

What I hate about playing the Aints is that — someway, somehow — they seem to expose and exploit all the Falcons weaknesses we complain about. Our team always makes some really good plays, keeping it close, but “close” ain’t comfortable.

What I’ll watch for early is pressure on Brees. No matter who the Aints play, Brees seems to have all day to read and throw. If Nolan and the Birds don’t nail Brees down early and often, it’s gonna be a long night.

I hate to be Debbie Downer, but I’m tired of watching the best team lose.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
7:46 pm

Come on falcons, plz beat the fuuk out of them and leave no dought!!!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
7:50 pm

JJ

It’s a temporary name. I Might change back if the Falcons beat the Saints. ;)

JJ

November 29th, 2012
7:52 pm

No worries mate!

Greg Mendel

November 29th, 2012
7:53 pm

Shotgun:

The Cage fervently hopes for your reversion.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
7:53 pm

You aced it Greg!

Greg Mendel

November 29th, 2012
7:56 pm

Free the Quizz!

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
7:56 pm

@ 7:45 I mean.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
7:56 pm

Love the old Falcon jersey. Wish they wore it ever home game!

JB Falcon

November 29th, 2012
7:58 pm

Shotgun, you have earned the right to call yourself whatever you want, imo. Your posts, knowledge of the game, and your presentation makes you whoever you want to be. We will always recognize you by the content of your posts. Just don’t change it to “Breezy” or something like that.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
8:00 pm

Spoon is back, but the Saints will still score. I am just hoping they make them one dimensional by stopping the run. It can force Brees to make mistakes.

Offense should have a good game, period. No excuses!

Arno

November 29th, 2012
8:00 pm

Just get the W.
Clean the lilly livers out of our dome.
Let them know right early that if they think little brother in ATL is on their road to the playoffs, then they made a SERIOUS wrong turn.

Geo

November 29th, 2012
8:00 pm

@Shotgun, and the red helmet!

DePlane

November 29th, 2012
8:01 pm

Shotgun….I like the handle…keep it!

DePlane

November 29th, 2012
8:03 pm

We all want this W any way possible. Go Falcons!!! Send these pissaints home with egg on their face!

Unca' Bob

November 29th, 2012
8:03 pm

Lets tee it up!! Go Falcons!!

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
8:07 pm

They have turned this game into the egg bowl, they used that BS all day. LET IT GO, NFL Network!

Coop

November 29th, 2012
8:07 pm

Gonna throw up. Holding it down in Texas.

Greg Mendel

November 29th, 2012
8:08 pm

Speaking of shotguns, anybody familiar with “combination” guns? I was given one by my WW2 vet uncle, taken from a German soldier. It’s a 16 gauge double-barrel shotgun with a rifle barrel (9mm) under the double. He also gave me four German pistols and a Cossack saber he captured.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
8:08 pm

***FFL***

WR, Good luck buddy and sorry, I mean, congrats on your nuputials! Only good news out of the safe campus known as ga aTECHus…tech and apd have 1 special new car…it arrives quicker than others to witness the lack of crime control in downtown. For those new to atl, do not get lost downtown. Some areas are very unsafe. I went to GSU, trust me or just look at criminal stats in downtown.
Anyway, its GAMETIME!!!!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
8:09 pm

I just have this feeling that I’m about to watch a playoff game. Can’t wait.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
8:11 pm

Damnit! Just spilled ranch on my jersey. Oh well, no washing till offseason.

DePlane

November 29th, 2012
8:11 pm

F21…the Falcons need to make an eggzample out of the Taint’s!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
8:12 pm

Brees is arrogant. For sure.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
8:12 pm

Coop, I will throw up if I am up after 12 and we lose. Done missed 2 days doing that this week, don’t need it now.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
8:15 pm

LOL DePlane.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
8:18 pm

Man oh man…that Brees.

This is gonna be a fight. The refs are going to be busy.

Arno

November 29th, 2012
8:20 pm

Brees reminds me of Santa Claus. Everybody depending on one guy to deliver presents. Believe me, it’s a fantasy.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:21 pm

Arno, you win with that analogy.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
8:22 pm

JWW, have you bowed down to the war eagles now?, lol

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
8:26 pm

JJ, nah, I bowed to the freak of nature and him playing a lousy team. He’s done okay of late.

waynester

November 29th, 2012
8:26 pm

Just WIN, baby–who cares what the talking heads say or think…..

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:31 pm

How about that? Solid run by Turner.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:33 pm

Run game looking good already. Even better than in the Bucs game.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
8:33 pm

How bout that?

JJ

November 29th, 2012
8:34 pm

Keep givin it to qizz!!!

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
8:34 pm

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:34 pm

TD! HELL OF A DRIVE!

Arno

November 29th, 2012
8:35 pm

Michaelangelo Turner.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
8:35 pm

WHO’S YOUR FUUKING DADDY!?!? GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
8:37 pm

Wow.

Only one pass that drive.

Let’s see how the defense does.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
8:37 pm

WOW What a march! March that Saints D right back to the locker room!

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:39 pm

Defense came to play.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
8:39 pm

Hell yes, bring it D.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:40 pm

What? Where’s the delay of game?

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
8:40 pm

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:41 pm

PICK! BOO-YAH!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
8:41 pm

JJ

November 29th, 2012
8:42 pm

thank you lord and DECOUD!!!!!!!!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
8:42 pm

DeCoud!!!!!!

Asante should just sit out. I’m glad he’s trying to play, but he got burnt!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
8:42 pm

OH HELL YEAH!!!!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
8:43 pm

Still wonna know where the delay of game penalty?!?!

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
8:44 pm

Couldn’t have started any better for Atlanta…

Ram the ball down their throats on the opening drive.

INT Brees.

Now, these are the type of drives Atlanta has to make more of. This has been an issue thus far. Gotta capitalize on opportunities to stuff the lead.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
8:44 pm

GLAD TO SEE ALL THE USUAL FANATICS ON BOARD TONIGHT!

Coop

November 29th, 2012
8:44 pm

Oh he’ll yeah

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
8:45 pm

Same here Truth and Snack.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
8:45 pm

Coop

November 29th, 2012
8:46 pm

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
8:46 pm

PASS INTERFERENCE….you idiot refs….

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
8:46 pm

Katrina refs at the Dome? How was that not a PI?

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:46 pm

First no delay of game, now no PI? What’s the deal, refs?

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
8:46 pm

Yet again, offense gotta make more of these types of possessions.

They can change the dynamic of a game.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
8:48 pm

Seems if though the sAINTS have their on traveling Refs.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
8:48 pm

Wabe – Agreed, but PI screwed us. Matt saw it and threw it perfect…

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
8:48 pm

Wabe

That was on the refs. Can’t blame the O

Coop

November 29th, 2012
8:49 pm

Long 3rd down

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:50 pm

Blitzers need to try and cut inside instead of going around the OL.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
8:51 pm

Thats 2 made look easy. Come on!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
8:51 pm

This defense is hyped up. Couple of missed shots on Sproles before Willy Mo lays the wood.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
8:52 pm

Hell yeah! Pressure, Mole Face!!!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
8:52 pm

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
8:53 pm

Let’s see if the refs can open their eyes this drive.

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
8:55 pm

“Franks….” – BR

Nuff said.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:56 pm

Is the Burner back? Dude is tearing it up so far.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
8:56 pm

man, just ram that ish down their throats

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
8:58 pm

It’s like the OL flipped–better run blocking, worse pass blocking.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
8:58 pm

It’s pathetic man…

2 times now the defense has allowed you to blow them out the building…

And you can’t do ish with these drives.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
8:59 pm

Matt off tonight

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
8:59 pm

HD useless again. The route he ran requires him to be on the inside. He’s just not physical enough.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:00 pm

Wave – Agreed this time. Matt is off on throws.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:01 pm

Don’t worry bout the passing. It will start gelling.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:01 pm

Shotgun – Sadly concur.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:03 pm

SACK! Defense keeping us in the game once again.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:04 pm

D playing lights out. Convert dmnit

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:06 pm

Now we’re getting somewhere.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:06 pm

There we go, O. Keep it up.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:07 pm

Now I can exhale…

Arno

November 29th, 2012
9:07 pm

Is that an egg I see on the Lilly score board?

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:08 pm

All in all, good first quarter.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:08 pm

Hang on, young un!

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:09 pm

No field goals

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:10 pm

JUST LIKE THAT!! G.O.A.T. TIGHT END!!

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:10 pm

There ya go man.

Blow these clowns outta the building!

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:11 pm

TK YOU LORD!!!

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
9:11 pm

I think they call that a TD. I did not want to see that 10-0 score again.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:12 pm

Lofton got scored on.

The Falcons don’t miss you, bro.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:12 pm

Yessir.

That’s how you do.

Blow these clowns outta he building tonight

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
9:12 pm

CRUSH THEIR WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON’T LET UP SMITH!

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:13 pm

NOW PUT THEM DWN SMITTY, NO SMITTYBALL!!!!!!!!

DePlane

November 29th, 2012
9:13 pm

Love seeing Lofton get burned by TG! Yeah, he’s a 3 down LB….right!

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:13 pm

sorry for yelling

DePlane

November 29th, 2012
9:14 pm

Let the beatdown begin!

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:14 pm

Hell ring yes! Thank you God!

Now, be the de il and take their soul!

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

DRob putting the SMACK DOWN.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

Crush this team. Dominate their assssss

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

YES DUNTA!!!!

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:16 pm

Bout time the refs made a smart call.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:16 pm

Someone, plz CRUSH BREES!!!!!

Geo

November 29th, 2012
9:17 pm

Antoine Smith looks like a great athelete. C’mon Mike Smith, play him!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:17 pm

Franks sucks.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:17 pm

I CAN FEEL IT MAN, DOMINATION!!!!!!!!!

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:18 pm

Now score. Deep to JJ.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
9:18 pm

Don’t let up!!!

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:18 pm

Franks, Y are u still on a prof nfl team?

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:18 pm

Defense is not going to keep this up. Falcons need to keep scoring.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:18 pm

This is the drive we find out about the Falcon’s killer instinct.

Put the foot on the throat right now.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
9:18 pm

Could Franks atleast run up and knock the freaking ball out of bounds?

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:19 pm

Yes Wabe. Take their soul right fing now. Dominate them.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:19 pm

Biermann relentless tonight.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:19 pm

worthless franks!!!

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:20 pm

Go deep ryan!!!

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:21 pm

Should have gone for it. Can’t let up now.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:22 pm

No block in the back? Wow

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:23 pm

And Turner for nothing followed by a white drop

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:23 pm

The play calls are good. The execution is off this game. Players need to settle down on O.

Granted, the Saints are giving it their best shot.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:24 pm

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:24 pm

YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:24 pm

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:26 pm

Ryan – bad throw…too high…

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:27 pm

Dammit Ryan….settle down!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:27 pm

Ryan is off tonight. No doubt about it.

Arno

November 29th, 2012
9:27 pm

2 pics 3 points. I’ll take em.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:27 pm

Bryant gets some mojo back…

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:27 pm

Might need to go back to the run game for a bit; the drops are a problem.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:28 pm

this is like that denver game…

this game should be like 28-0 right now.

how do you not punch in 7 after getting the ball from their 30 man.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:28 pm

17-0 Now get it to the half just like that.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:28 pm

Passing game is annoying me.

Either guys are dropping it or Ryan is missing his targets….if it ain’t one, it’s the other.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:29 pm

Theres another shotgun that didnt work shotgun. How bout changing your name to nohuddle for a few plays before changing it again???

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:29 pm

put Ryan in shotgun and let him work.

i think the pressure’s getting to him a bit and getting him off his spot.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:29 pm

The goose egg part.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:29 pm

Send ‘em into halftime with egg on their faces!

:twisted:

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:29 pm

Gotta give the Saints D credit. They are getting pressure big time on Ryan. It’s throwing him off. Doesn’t help that receivers are dropping catches.

Still, 17-0.

I hate to say this, but Falcons need to run the ball to slow down their pass rush.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:29 pm

Concur with all. Passing game not solid. D is awesome. Can they get one more stop?

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:30 pm

Our 6th round pick does his job again…no return on that kick.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:31 pm

My bad, Im a little pissed!

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:31 pm

how bout some screens to slow that pass rush down?

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:31 pm

McClain is Grimes 2.0.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:31 pm

Robert McClain.

Get this man a multi-year contract.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:31 pm

i love that dude mcclain

ballskills

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
9:32 pm

Brees is off tonight, I think the D has a little something to do with it.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:32 pm

that defense bought the swagger tonight

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:32 pm

Shotgun

True. We might need to run it a bit more as others are saying.

LOVE how our defense is reacting. We look like we’re DARING the Saints to try anything right now!

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
9:33 pm

“i think the pressure’s getting to him a bit and getting him off his spot.” – Wabe

When we are telegraphing what we are doing not much can be done. I had hoped something would change but it never will. At least the defense is doing good even wthout a consistent pass rush.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:33 pm

D is all time tonight so far.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:33 pm

really man, that was good coverage

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:33 pm

Can’t keep giving up these big third downs.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:34 pm

Geo

November 29th, 2012
9:34 pm

Who’s division?

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:34 pm

That was great coverage.

Bad luck

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:34 pm

Chris Owens! Awesome play!

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:35 pm

nice play owens..

corners steppin it up minus Samuel

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:35 pm

Pressure still not getting there in time.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:35 pm

dammmmmmmmmmmmit

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:35 pm

Dammit….we had him. Brees with a slick move. Next time POP HIS ASS.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:36 pm

Man

Talk about luck.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:38 pm

Yeah whatever. Saints needed that call. A-holes.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:38 pm

they’re getting to him, but they can’t wrap him up

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:38 pm

WTF! You gotta sack him!

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:38 pm

Okay, this is getting annoying now.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:39 pm

TACKLE THE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:39 pm

Blast it all….great blocking and the draw caught us with pants down.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:39 pm

Offense, how bout you show up, because the defense has put their heart out there tonight

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:40 pm

That is most certaily NOT a TD. Knee was down.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:40 pm

Getting to bees and not getting him down.

That’s all on the lineman

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
9:41 pm

Same ol’ story Big Ray!!!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:41 pm

Wabe – damn straight

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:41 pm

So it’s not a touchdown and half the distance. A half yard penalty instead of being totally backed up.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:42 pm

I know they’re not getting him on the ground, but a lot of those plays are just ‘miracle’ type plays by Brees.

I’m happy to see us getting to him and not making anything easy for them. They had to work for their points on this drive.

JJ

November 29th, 2012
9:42 pm

How many DBress comm must I take????????

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:43 pm

I totally hate the Saints. Matt, please drive us down for 7

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:43 pm

Time for the two-minute offense to put up another TD before halftime.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:44 pm

I think THAT was BS too, but the FEMA victims had to get that call their way eventually.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:44 pm

Offense needs to score here. Period.

Defense did great that drive. Just some bad luck.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:45 pm

Watch Smitty settle for 3

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:45 pm

We got NOTHING coming at Brees in the middle.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:45 pm

Brees got lucky on that long pass. Ryan has made some throws like that which have turned into picks.

Had Weatherspoon turned his head, it would have been a pick. Cest la vie…..

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:46 pm

Make it 24-7 at half and we’re golden

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:46 pm

Getting cute and stupid

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:46 pm

NO. No, no, no!

You do NOT continue towards the half satisfied with a 10 point lead! You put the pedal to the floor!

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:47 pm

Gonna be 17-14 with Saints getting ball

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:47 pm

Konz lost his man.

Busted drive if we don’t make this play.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:48 pm

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:48 pm

Snelling with a great job.

Now it’s time to go for it. Just do it. And this time, MEAN IT.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:48 pm

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:49 pm

Of course not. Why build confidence with a bold, gutsy play?

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:49 pm

Why are they passing now?

They were running just fine.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:49 pm

Weak. Should have gone for it.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:50 pm

This is a horrid, evil team. I loathe these bayou bugs. They make our team look like sh_t.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:50 pm

Here we go. Gdamn you smitty

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:50 pm

This is what happens when you give them the ball back.

Please, let’s make a play and put a stop to these guys.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:51 pm

This is Smittyball. Weak aaaasssss scared Conservative BS!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:51 pm

I just don’t understand this team sometimes.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:51 pm

Seriously, Snelling picks up 15 yards to make it 4th and 1, less than three minutes in the half, and you don’t go for it? Am I the only one who thinks that makes no sense?

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:51 pm

you have to be dominant on one side or the other…

and this team isn’t

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:52 pm

Gonna be 21-17 the next time we touch the ball. F you Smitty.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:52 pm

Smitty….you’re killing this. Playing not to lose…not good enough. Especially not against a team like this. You don’t “play it safe”….you CRUSH THE SNAKE.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:52 pm

Coop

Actually, they were passing. Nothing conservative about that. Yet, they stop running after the first drive.

I don’t get it.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:53 pm

Wabe ,

It would look that way on defense if we didn’t make our defense play way more than our offense.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:53 pm

What a horrible blitz by McClain

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:53 pm

Of course he’s wide open

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:54 pm

That old stink is coming back.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:54 pm

We are screwed.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:54 pm

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:55 pm

really man, i’m heated…

you were set up to blow this team out the building, and now they’re going into the half down by 3 or 7? And they get the ball to start the half?

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:55 pm

That better be against the Saints….hell yeah…

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:55 pm

Wabe ,

Exactly.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:55 pm

Shotgun, their is conservatism I’m the passing game too. Not having a MB discussion wi you about Smittyball

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:57 pm

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
9:57 pm

wow, p!ss poor clock management saves mike smith’s arse.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
9:57 pm

Damn lucky that is ALL!!!

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
9:57 pm

Stupid, stupid move giving the ball back. Look what almost happened.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
9:58 pm

I do not like the tenor this game has taken on.

Throw away the charts, graphs, whatever.

Smitty do you need some f@cking Viagra? Stop being FLACCID and go hard!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
9:59 pm

Can somebody call the offense and tell them there is a game being played?

I hate to say it, but take the ball out of Matt’s hands. Run the ball the second half till they stop it.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
9:59 pm

Thanks for the gift Brees

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:01 pm

Big Ray

They were trying to be aggressive with the pass game but the Falcons aren’t executing. They were passing in their three and outs.

Arno

November 29th, 2012
10:01 pm

Snelling almot got the 1st– Lofton cut him short.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
10:01 pm

Brees is a many year vet, anyone that calls Ryan out needs to think again. That was a dumb play.

D3

November 29th, 2012
10:01 pm

At game.

We will mever win the big one with Smittyball.

We should be winning 28-7 right now. Smitty is an enormous p—-y.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:02 pm

Sorry but I’m not gonna stop griping until the final score is in our favor. And I do not want this game to be close.

Why? Simple – because we lost the LAST close game with these guys. Need to dominate this game.

Don’t need to do it to show the media, or even the fans. Need to do it for themselves. Build that confidence. Discover/know that you are better, and that you can beat teams without “finding a way to win”, but simply by being better.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:02 pm

Halftime adjustments.

Greg Mendel

November 29th, 2012
10:04 pm

Falcons passing is crap. Giving Brees 2 freaking seconds spells defeat. 17-point lead pissed away.

Upside: Falcons usually own the second half.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:04 pm

Shotgun ,

A few things I’m seeing….

1) Not running the ball…don’t know why.

2) Matt Ryan has missed on some passes.

3) WRs trying to lead the League in dropped passes…awful.

4) Blitzes are beating our pass protection just enough to get Ryan out of a rhythm.

5) There is such thing as conservative passing. And you already know this. Ryan is being “too careful” on some plays. Some of that is Smitty, some of it is Ryan.

JB Falcon

November 29th, 2012
10:05 pm

17-7 Halftime lead and everybody is worried? We’ve all seen the Nolan adjustments for the second half. The fun is not over yet.

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
10:06 pm

“there is conservatism in the passing game too.” – Coop

It is obvious what the gameplan was coming in. Same old same old. Glad we are winning now but 10 points down is not alot to a team commited to points instead of blindly following a dead archaic philosophy.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:06 pm

Falcon 21 ,

Given some of the criticism on Ryan (justifed and nonjustified alike), I’m surprised somebody else didn’t say something about Brees’ mistake.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:06 pm

Gonna throw up again

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:08 pm

JB ,

True. I trust Nolan. But you think the Saints won’t make adjustments?

Tell me, my friend…how did adjustments work out last time? If the players don’t adjust their execution and the offensive mindset doesn’t get adjusted, the results will be the same unless the defense plays lights out for the rest of the game. Is that even fair to ask of them? Nobody else has done it….

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:08 pm

My second half adjustments:

Offense:

Run the ball until the Saints prove they can stop it. Matt is just off today. The passing execution is bad.

Defense:

Dline needs to wrap up on those sacks. When Mike calls a blitz, the guys need to get to the QB. Every time we blitzed, it wasnt fast enough and it left a guy wide open. Everything else is solid.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:08 pm

BR – Greed on Bree’s mistake, but they said Sproles often makes that. I concur. Not a bad thought. Risky and arrogant… Makes sense sine they think they’re our Daddy.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:10 pm

Whole game could be on this first series. Stop them and score 7 and the game will be done!

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:11 pm

What does it say about your offense if you allow it to be slowed by the 32nd ranked defense in the league.

Do you remember our defenses over the years on days where it seemed the only way we could get a stop was if the other team miscued? Not by any doing of our own?

Well, the script should be flipped here. They shouldn’t be doing anything to rattle us or slow us down. The only thing that should slow us down are ourselves, and that hasn’t been the case. Their front 4 has actually gotten to Ryan. What does it say if they can get to us? What would fronts like the Giants and Niners do to our O-Line?

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:11 pm

Big Ray

Can’t really put the blame on Smith for this one. The players aren’t executing. The play calls are great. They weren’t playing conservative at all.

I was on the coaching versus Tampa, but the game so far is on the offensive execution.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:12 pm

Gotta put them out quick…then go score a TD.

Greg Mendel

November 29th, 2012
10:12 pm

Yes, JB, I’m worried. NO and Brees have been adjusting already. If the Falcons can’t win, or even keep up with one of the best set of receivers in football, something is very, very wrong.

As I said earlier, the Aints expose and exploit Falcon weaknesses. No pass rush, weak pass protection.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:14 pm

Look at that freakin’ hole.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:15 pm

Yeah. Adjustments.

Saints are having no trouble moving on us. Finding the open guy every time.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

here comes that garbo run defense again

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

Several runs…now they’ll pass

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

if you’re sending the heat, you gotta play tighter on the outside.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:17 pm

So much for adjustments

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:17 pm

Really needed that INT.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:17 pm

man i thought twice now that we had our hands on a INT

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:18 pm

Got a break….let’s stop them HERE

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:18 pm

can you see the nerves on Smitty’s face

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:18 pm

no resistence

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:18 pm

Damnit. Every time we blitz.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:19 pm

WTF

Apparently their execution is superior to our adjustments on this drive.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:19 pm

NICE play by Travian Robertson.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:19 pm

Stop being their bit tech and make them yours

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
10:19 pm

same o same o

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:20 pm

Sorry, Falcons as team are scard of Saints

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:20 pm

whatever man…

they got their offense rollin’.

was only a matter of time.

offense epic failed when we needed them to pad the lead

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:20 pm

For God’s sake you have to HIT Brees….you can’t just get close!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:20 pm

Dodged a bullet.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:20 pm

We have zero swagger. Why? We had it early? Smitty killed it.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
10:21 pm

HOLD EM!!!!!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:21 pm

Willy Mo laying nice wood to the RB.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:21 pm

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:21 pm

saints own woes savin’ our arses here

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:22 pm

Wonderful stand by the defense after giving up all that yardage.

Got a break with a penalty though.

I’ll take it.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:22 pm

Defense makes a stand. Offense needs to respond.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
10:22 pm

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:22 pm

Defense spent entirely too much time on the field.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:23 pm

dude there ain’t no killer instinct with this squad.

the saints botched two redzone possessions, and that’s the only reason we’re up right now.

i’m sorry man, but you gotta put people away every now and then. and this squad has zero credibility with that matter. they can’t help but put themselves in tight games.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:23 pm

I sure would like for our offense to reciprocate that effort, even if it wasn’t the best.

But in a way, I’m not mad at the defense (other than not getting to the QB).

We keep making them work so much harder.

Time for the offense to earn their keep. Catch the damn ball. RUN the damn ball.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:23 pm

Up 17-0 and now clinging to 17-10. That’s Smittball. It’s a philosophy and I hate it.

John Waynesworld

November 29th, 2012
10:23 pm

Ryan and Roddy gotta buck up. The O line has to hold them.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:23 pm

I’m curious to see the offensive adjustments.

Let’s hope the players execute.

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

It is time to put 7 on the board ,if not, then the Saints are going to tie this game .

GO FALCONS !!!!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:24 pm

Shotgun ,

I get what you’re saying about play calling. But when the passing game is struggling, particularly with dropped passes and blown protection…why would you not run it some to set the defense up? We ran really well in the first quarter.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:25 pm

Offense had a long enough rest, so maybe they’ll get on track this drive.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:25 pm

$50 we go about 1 first down, punt and the Saints tie the game.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:26 pm

I hate this coach and his conservative BS

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:26 pm

Where’s the deep ball? Where’s the 4th and 1? Where’s the fake punt?

Greg Mendel

November 29th, 2012
10:26 pm

Brees is just playing with us now. ‘Bout to get ugly.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:27 pm

That’s more like it. Turner looks like he’d like to stay involved in the offense.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:27 pm

we can keep microanalyzing it, but bottom line, there’s some type of spark/fire missing with this team.

you have a chance to blow your rival outta the building at home on primetime. KO them from the playoff hunt. Return the favor to them after what happened last season on MNF.

instead, we’re in a dogfight, and it’s starting to look grim.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

And we suck again

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

Mud Duck may have killed the drive with that penalty.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

I’m just starting to think it’s the players’ psyche. They always make mistakes and can’t execute on big games.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

Shotgun – that’s Smitty

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:29 pm

I’m getting sick to my stomach.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:29 pm

Well, Coop, you’d have lost that one. I believe that was zero first downs.

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
10:29 pm

I hate to say this but we are fixing to be tied

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:30 pm

yawn…

koetter’s on my ‘heads roll’ list.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:30 pm

Smitty, you suck. You ar an absolute puuuuuuuussssssssyyy.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:30 pm

Like I said, it’s on the players. Coaches can’t play the game.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:30 pm

Ok defense. We ask you to either play great or bend but don’t break….again.

Thanks Mud Duck for screwing us to the tune of 10 yards.

Thankyou Roddy for not getting separation on that play.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:31 pm

Only this shiiiiiity coaching staff could blow a 17-0 lead. God dammmmmnt I hate this team sometimes.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:31 pm

What are you guys talking about?

A penalty made it 2nd and 15.

That’s on Smith? Players are choking. Call a spade a spade.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:32 pm

Shotgun. Poor execution, it horrible play calling. Out coaches suck

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:33 pm

dude, 10-1 means jack ish.

you’re playing the 32nd ranked defense and your offense has come to a grinding halt. this happened 2 weeks ago against the cardinals. it happened against the raiders. it happened against the redskins.

what’ll happen against the likes of the giants and niners. that’s all i’m thinking about.

that defense is starting to get gashed.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:33 pm

Really, Shotgun?

I see us running the same plays that we ran against them a couple games ago. The same plays we ran against them the last 2-3 years.

Guess what? They see the same plays, too. Funny how that sh!t works.

It’s why Jabari Greer was able to easily make that play when Roddy failed to get separation.

It’s why they knew where Turner was headed when McClure got called for the hold.

Yeah, it’s the players….AND the coaches. When it’s the SAME kinds of plays, that means there IS NOT ADJUSTMENT.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:35 pm

Shotgun – You’re retarded. This is horrible play calling

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:35 pm

Up 17-0 and gonna lose. That’s on Smith

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
10:36 pm

They can’t stop them

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:36 pm

Saints doing what we’ve done in several games….playing hard from behind and moving the ball.

Can’t expect our defense to hold these guys for two thirds of the game. Just can’t. They’re good, but the NO offense is made to score, and that’s what they do.

Yet the defense holds them to another FG. Marvelous effort in the end.

Can we PLEASE score NOW????

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:36 pm

Good grief. This next drive will tell us who wins this game.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:37 pm

They ran the ball on first down and got 5 yards.
Then they get a holding call.
Then they did a great screen play to Julio to get the yards back.
Then Roddy took a play off and didn’t convert.

That drive was not on the play calling. It was all execution.

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
10:38 pm

“koetter’s on my ‘heads roll’ list.” – Wabe

This is Smitty. Koetter isn’t as adapt at certain things as I would like but he has shown enough that he can be somebody other than Kotter. Smitty can’t learn and will always be Smitty unfortunately. Someone dumb enough to lose the last four and 7 of last 8, and come out with the exact same losing gameplan…I don’t even know what to say about that. I’ll be happy if we win but I have no faith in Smitty left.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:38 pm

If you think about….

If our offense doesn’t get the damn job done against one of the NFL’s worst defenses…

The Saints can Smittyball us to death..and win. They can continue to get shut out of the red zone as long as they get in FG range and hit their FGs. It would only take two more FG drives. That’s all.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:38 pm

Coop

I agree Smith has blame because he is the head coach, but the players are just as guilty so far.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:39 pm

Smith will never win super bowl

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:40 pm

Incredible recovery by Ryan on the backpedal.

Drive getting off to a bad start.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:40 pm

the pressure’s gotten to Ryan…

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:40 pm

What in the hell was that?

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:40 pm

Pathetic. This is embarrassing.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:41 pm

tired of watching this ish now man

they’re pathetic

pretender written all over them.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:41 pm

These players on offense are making me sick.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:42 pm

Receivers are off.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:42 pm

3 and out suck fest

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:42 pm

We suck and deserve all the shoiiiit they talk about us. I hate you Smitty.

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

This is getting so bad that its funny

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

Most of the season we’ve had to deal with this–half the team comes to play. Defense one week, offense the next.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

Just a 3 man rush and they can get all that pressure. Gotta love this o-line.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

Zero excuse to lose this game after being up 17-0. Smitty sucks.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

My God. We are dead in the water.

I’ll say this…no blocking on first down, mixed signals on second down, third down was a busted play before the ball was even snapped.

If you can’t see that the Saints knew EXACTLY where we were going with the ball, then myopia is your ailment. How can you tell? Even if Roddy actually makes the damn catch, he’s short of the first down.

I’m disgusted.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:43 pm

who doesn’t wanna draft O-Line in the 1st round?

I’m sorry, but this team has never been built around the defense. It has invested in offense. And, until we see an O-Line that can allow our QB to stand back there and scan the field, we’re not going anywhere.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:44 pm

It’s official.

The offense are choke artists. They are reminding me of the Giants playoff game.

Defense came to play.

Oline can’t block, Ryan can’t throw right, and receivers can’t catch.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:44 pm

At this point, we’ll need several lucky breaks to win. Not one, but several.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:44 pm

Wabe ,

Agreed.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:45 pm

WHO JUST SAID WE NEEDED A LUCKY BREAK? BOOM!

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:45 pm

Oh Thank You Jesus (and William Moore)…..

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:45 pm

can this bogus offense put it in now

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:46 pm

Hmmmm….a worse pick than most of the ones Ryan has thrown this year….

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:46 pm

Again. Poor execution.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:47 pm

Spagnuolo looks like a pedophile. I’d arrest him on sight.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:47 pm

Well, well.

Change up the plays a bit and catch the ball.

Playcalling and execution. They go hand in hand.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:48 pm

Momentum shift. Time to take over this game.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:48 pm

This defense is ready for the playoffs.

Offense… not too sure.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:48 pm

What’s to talk about? Don’t do what you ALWAYS do. Don’t do what they KNOW you’ll do.

Do something different and you can score. It’s either that or beat them down with what you know how to do.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:49 pm

i’ll take any given W…

but, nothing they do from here on out tonight satisfies me. they showed who they are.

jekyll and hyde on both sides of the ball.

sometimes they’ll look great, others they look drop dead terrible.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:49 pm

F@cking stupid play.

Why the HELL would you have Douglas as a lead blocker and TOSS SWEEP with Turner??!!!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:49 pm

Again. HD is useless.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:50 pm

and in mike smith’s eyes, it’s these 5 yard penalties that are killing our chances of winning games.

sometimes they are, but a lot of it may have to do with your 5 straight 3 and outs.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:50 pm

Again. HD is useless.

He’s not a blocker. Stupid to have him in there and use him as such.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:51 pm

Are we seriously not going to take advantage of the turnover.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:51 pm

Ryan gets rattled quick…

I know he’s been taking heat all night, but it’s looking like even when he has somewhat decent protection, he’s getting happy feet.

can’t completely blame him, but you gotta stay poised.

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
10:51 pm

Need a TD here

Arno

November 29th, 2012
10:52 pm

the 3rd quarter from hell

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:52 pm

Even the people calling the game has been saying poor execution, yet the coaches are being blamed only. I just don’t get it.

Anyways, the only thing this game has shown me is that the defense is legit. Gotta give them credit. That’s heart.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:53 pm

Player’s psyche has everything to do with coach’s psyche.

I’d love for somebody to tell me Mike Smith knows just what do do in the redzone, he just can’t get his players to buy into it and execute. Ha.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:53 pm

yawn

bogus pretender offense

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
10:53 pm

4th and goal? OF COURSE we’ll take the 3. That’s what we do. Regardless of the score, or the time left on the clock.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:54 pm

Ryan forcing the throw. That’s on him.

How can the Saints cover ALL of our weapons.

Wait…were ALL of our weapons on the field?

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:54 pm

Shotgun – this play calling sucks. Blame the players, but coaches share the blame yard.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
10:55 pm

Smitty is a puuuuuusssssy and he translates that to players.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
10:55 pm

I implore everyone to watch the replay of this game. I have seen lousy execution all game.

Matt Ryan is playing scared,

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:56 pm

blame it on whatever you want.

execution or coaching.

bottom line, it happens too often for a supposedly ‘elite’ team.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
10:56 pm

Ryan looks pissed off on the sideline. He should be. He’s an accessory to canine sodomy (think about what this really means before you get offended).

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
10:57 pm

“Even if Roddy actually makes the damn catch, he’s short of the first down.” – BR

If you notice on those last two pass plays in the redzone not one single receiver ever stepped over the goal line. We didn’t stretch the defense horizontally or vertically…stop routes well short of the destination straight out of the MM playbook.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:58 pm

soft coverage…

bend but don’t break

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:58 pm

they’ll make em’ work for every 1st down to prevent giving up the big play…

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
10:58 pm

Brees is a much better QB than Ryan

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
10:59 pm

the saints have been moving the ball at will….

and we’re not moving at all.

yet we’re still up. amazing.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:00 pm

Defense is legit.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:00 pm

BR – coaching precedes execution.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
11:01 pm

Defense stepping it up again. Still…that’s just one half of the team.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:01 pm

HELL YEAH.

Defense is winning this game for us. Willy Mo with a huge backfield play, Abe with the sack.

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
11:01 pm

Good D . They seem to want this game

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:02 pm

We MUST score

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:03 pm

SP ,

You called it exactly right. That was my point from earlier – same damn plays we have run against the Saints for the last four years, really. They know them as well as we do.

Nah, the play calling is perfect…. uh…not when they know what’s coming and how to stop it

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:03 pm

defense is good, they’ve carried us tonight, easily.

but they’re not built to be a shutdown caliber defense. they’re opportunistic, but not the likes of the 49ers or Bears.

this team will go as far as the offense takes them. and it’s clear to me, this offense will get it handed to them in the postseason running into fronts that are far more talented than the Saints, Skins, Raiders, Cardinals, Cowboys, etc.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:03 pm

Still gonna throw up

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:03 pm

Im proud of the Falcon D.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
11:03 pm

Either way, Franks should have been gone 3 weeks ago. Dude sucks.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:03 pm

Coop – I agree. Kills me.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:04 pm

More 5 to 7 step drops would help.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:05 pm

First pass play was a “gimme”. Everybody knew it was gonna be a short slant.

Second play was more like what we need to do.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:05 pm

Rhythm? I sure hope so.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:06 pm

Commentators are right….should have been Rodgers on a play like that.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:07 pm

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:07 pm

Tipped pass. Roddy was open.

Execution,

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:08 pm

Really needed to convert that…good play.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
11:08 pm

We need a TD, not to eat up the clock.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:09 pm

how many times do you see him pump and then just check it down…

obviously that secondary ain’t biting.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:09 pm

Protection is not giving Ryan much time to work.

And it’s a shame, because his feet have calmed down and he’s looking confident again.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
11:09 pm

Quizz didn’t even turn upfield.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:09 pm

Another big third down.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:09 pm

God. The offensive line play is horrid.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:09 pm

they’ll play for the FG

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:10 pm

and that became obvious when it was 3rd and 14

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:10 pm

We’re aiming at FGs again.

You can tell by how the offensive plays have gone.

Somebody is coaching from charts and graphs again.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:11 pm

Konz is getting owned.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:11 pm

the screen to quizz was a good call, poorly executed.

the 3rd and 14 call pi$$e$ me off.

with the kinda talent you have on the outside, we’re dumping it off to Snelling hoping to get 4-5 yards to set up a FG?

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:12 pm

Big Ray

With how the line is holding…

Would you throw deep on third down and long or get in FG range?

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
11:12 pm

Miss a long fieldgoal here and we are in trouble.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:12 pm

Protection is AWOL.

Plays are not jiving with whatever it is Ryan is seeing out there. He’s checking down every single pass play.

Saints defense is all over every play. Gee, I wonder why? Is it because Ryan and the receivers suck?

Or is it because the OL isn’t blocking well enough to give Ryan time and on top of that, one of the NFL’s worst defenses knows what we’re gonna do before we do it?

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
11:12 pm

Bryant needs to earn his pay here

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:13 pm

Bryant atones for the recent past. And gets a share of the game ball (assuming….).

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
11:13 pm

Money, when it counts.

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
11:13 pm

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:13 pm

That look on Mike Smith’s face makes me wanna punch someone…

“YES! WE JUST EDGED OUT THE SAINTS”

Wouldn’t have needed to come to that had you kicked their arses the way we were set up to do.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
11:14 pm

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
11:14 pm

Aaaaaaand a field goal. At least we’ve still got the lead, but I’d rather that last drive have been about getting a TD rather than eating the clock.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:14 pm

HUGE FG. Amazing

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:14 pm

Shotgun ,

Here’s a better question…how do we keep getting into these arduous 3rd and longs?

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
11:15 pm

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:15 pm

That look on Mike Smith’s face makes me wanna punch someone…

“YES! WE JUST EDGED OUT THE SAINTS”

Wouldn’t have needed to come to that had you kicked their arses the way we were set up to do.

Glad I’m not sitting next to you. But you’re right all the same…

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:15 pm

Big Ray

Poor execution.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
11:16 pm

I’m almost tempted to say the defense is better than the offense…and it has been since the beginning of the season. IMHO

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:16 pm

Drew Brees prior to this game – “This is OUR division. We know it and THEY know it.”

Not anymore, ya punk b!tch.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:17 pm

LOL….what you wanna bet sproles heard footsteps?

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:17 pm

Wabe

I agree. Bad execution on that screen.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:19 pm

Shotgun ,

It’s your right to champion the CS if you so choose. I choose not to.

I say it’s both coaching AND execution. But that’s just my take.

Poor execution – so our O Line can’t block, huh? Yeah, I remember this guy saying their would be an open competition for all OL spots. The same guys started this year as the ones who failed out last year.

That’s just the start of it.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:20 pm

Saints defense just isn’t that good. Yet they continue to find ways to have more blitzers than we have blockers, and their DBs continuously are there…right where the ball is…to make plays.

Geo

November 29th, 2012
11:20 pm

These two announcers are total pros, but, man, has this telecast been all about the Saints.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

Owens comes up big again

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

Owens playing well

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

Ha! Got him AGAIN!

That’s game. That is GAME.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:22 pm

Shotgun,

You can blame it on the execution.

Or the coaching.

To me, it don’t matter, because this offense [regardless of whether you believe it's coaching or execution] gets slowed down. And a lot of times, we’re not even playing good defenses. The Skins, Raiders, and Saints all made our offense come to a grinding halt. It happens too often for me to take these guys seriously.

I’m rooting for them. But, they’ve gotta prove it before I believe they’re contenders. I don’t blame media heads for their skepticism.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:22 pm

Defense won the game.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:22 pm

Earn some points back and run it up on them Smitty

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:23 pm

that’s bogus

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:24 pm

Now who you want to blame THIS one on?

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:24 pm

that’s forward progress

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:25 pm

wouldn’t have been an issue had they ran it up rather than ran the clock out

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:25 pm

Automatic smittyball….

But Bush was down, so that ain’t a TD.

Turner failed to EXECUTE.

Should have gone with Rodgers….dumbass coaches.

:twisted:

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:25 pm

LOL, I love the NFL. Geez is swings the emotions.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:27 pm

This is BS. Refs should have blown the whistle.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:27 pm

Gonna get screwed bynrefs

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:27 pm

We’re fddddd

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:28 pm

Up 10 but they have the ball

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
11:28 pm

“Now who you want to blame THIS one on?” – BR

:) . That is exactly why I say it isn’t a given trying to run out the clock. Just as much danger from running or passing so might as well go for the throat and play your strengths to win. Only Smitty and a handful of homers haven’t figured out what our true strength is yet.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:29 pm

Offense execution is pathetic.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
11:29 pm

Refs didn’t blow the whistle when they should have. Sounds familiar.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:30 pm

Nice work by Nicholas.

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
11:30 pm

AND ANOTHER PICK!

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:30 pm

now who dat them outta here

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
11:31 pm

Whatever, refs.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:31 pm

and another ref job by the replacement refs

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:31 pm

F@CK you Katrina REFS!

You will NOT give our division away, you will NOT give the Saints a playoff berth!

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:31 pm

Wow. Refs are f!cking us.

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:31 pm

That was illegal procedure, the tackled moved. Man, my head is gonna explode.

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
11:32 pm

I have never seen the revs play so hard for a team to win

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:32 pm

I don’t care what anybody says.

We picked off a HOF QB 5 times.

Yep.

Geo

November 29th, 2012
11:32 pm

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
11:33 pm

Theres FIVE INT’s from some peoples hero, outside of the bull ish Katrina ref call. Thank you Brees for giving Smitty an early Christmas gift.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:34 pm

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:34 pm

snacktastic

November 29th, 2012
11:34 pm

THERE we go. FIVE PICKS, dammit.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:35 pm

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
11:35 pm

I will say it again…the DEFENSE is better than the offense.

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
11:35 pm

Wheeee!! Theres the SIXTH interception for Brees. I wonder what the excuses will be.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:35 pm

where the fans at?

who dat these chumps outta here man

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:36 pm

Could the Falcons break Brees’s TD streak? Lol

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:36 pm

Big players make big plays in big games. Matty has to grow a pair, but this is a huge step.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:36 pm

We could not do a damn thing on offense.

Our defense, however…dominated.

Zero TDs for Brees. Five interceptions.

This division is ours.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:36 pm

And we hand the ball to the guy we should have been handing it to in the first damn place.

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:36 pm

get on em’ Quizz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:36 pm

Somebody, nothing wrong with that.

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:37 pm

Wow. I would never think the Falcons would break the streak! Lmao

DePlane

November 29th, 2012
11:38 pm

What a heroic effort by the Falcons D. Just amazing!

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:38 pm

who dat them outta here!!!!!!!!!!

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:38 pm

Ho hum, another win. 11-1.

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:39 pm

I was never in doubt, always knew somebody was gonna make a play.

falcon21

November 29th, 2012
11:40 pm

This game belongs to the D. Nolan’s team came to play. KMA NOLA!

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November 29th, 2012
11:40 pm

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SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
11:40 pm

NO pissing on logos tonight!

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:40 pm

D made HUGE plays, Abs sack was huge, it set the tone going down the stretch.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:41 pm

Huuuuuuuuuuggggggeeeeeeee win

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
11:41 pm

21 AGREED

11 AND 1

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:41 pm

Defense wins championships.

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:42 pm

Smittyball now 44-0 with a 4th quarter 7 point lead.

Arno

November 29th, 2012
11:42 pm

Makes me wonder if Brees has reached his high-water mark. I wonder if he will ever be feared again in this town.

Despite being spittin mad most of the game, GREAT WIN !!!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
11:43 pm

SOMEBODY better give the D some LOVE, they were 6th in the league in scoring DEFENSE…and will improve on that after tonight.

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:43 pm

Yea, the Giants rode a defense to a SB. Hopefully this gets Ryan over the hump.

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:43 pm

Give the defense the game ball and let Matt Bryant touch it at least.

I got nothing to say for Smitty, or for the offense.

Saints are all but out of the playoffs, and WE did it to them. I love this.

Picked Brees off 6 damn times, and held the 8th ranked offense to less than half it’s usual points.

Let me say it again – NOBODY has limited the Saints to this point total since the Broncos beat them 34-13 (what OUR score should have been if you ask me).

Enough. I gotta get suited and booted and ready for duty in four hours. I’m out.

Will say plenty tomorrow however.

;)

Shotgun

November 29th, 2012
11:43 pm

Offense was horrible, but I feel they can adjust that.

How about that D!?

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
11:44 pm

Now if the DAWGS win Saturday it will be a perfect week

Big Ray

November 29th, 2012
11:45 pm

Thankyou for your work Mr. Nolan.

Great effort by the defense, which basically had to play 60 freakin’ minutes. Love what they did.

DePlane

November 29th, 2012
11:45 pm

HOW SWEET IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:46 pm

Ryan was tight, when to the check down a little too much, and I think where he goes, or O goes. Teams win SBs with D, or when the QB puts the team on his shoulders. I like our chances.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:47 pm

Matty b – please go f yourself a hole

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
11:48 pm

As good a looking D in the league tonight

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:48 pm

Glad we killed Bree’s TD record.

Play calling on O was suspect. D was amazing.

MB still a douche

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:48 pm

Coop, your a loser. You expect to lose. That is all I have to say. Please never address me again, I don’t want your loser-ness to taint me.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:50 pm

Great win. No reason not to be #1

Chris

November 29th, 2012
11:50 pm

Great win, awesome. Can’t be more freak’n happy. I’m a little disturbed by the O-line. I know it’s gonna haunt us in the play-offs. I hope they can do better against teams like NY and SF which we are just about guarantied of having to face in the play-offs. Overall though, good team win. Not spectacular but still a good team win.

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
11:50 pm

“Zero TDs for Brees.” – BR

Almost better than the win…we broke that cheating scumbags record streak.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:51 pm

MB you’re a loser a hole. Shut the f up and stop being a retard idiot.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:51 pm

MB and Smitty ball suck

Wabe

November 29th, 2012
11:52 pm

have you ever seen a postgame show where Ryan has to answer questions as though we lost?

Mariucci: You guys came out running the football and rammed it down their throats, and then you got away from it, what happened?

Irving: You have RW84, JJ11, and Tony Gonzalez, how do those 3 only combine for 10 catches?

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:53 pm

MB and Smitty can’t handle the truth. They suck. Their wives know it, they don’t.

MB – Blllloooooow AB. You suck troll.

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:53 pm

No coop, I am not about to throw up at the prospect of competition. I expect to WIN. Sorry, don’t mean to be negative, but being “honest”.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 29th, 2012
11:53 pm

Hey Guys, we’ve won 7-8 games by a TD or less, don’t get it twisted…the D gotta keep you in it, to win it. Just Sayin

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:54 pm

11-1… And the media hates up lie they’re MB

Slant Pattern

November 29th, 2012
11:54 pm

“You have RW84, JJ11, and Tony Gonzalez, how do those 3 only combine for 10 catches?” – Wabe

I would love it if Ryan would break character and come out and say that Smitty is retarded. Since he won’t/ can’t that is what we are here for lol.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:55 pm

MB – You suck. You have sucked for weeks. I’m glad the Cage is ignoring you. You blow loser.

Birdman

November 29th, 2012
11:55 pm

Ya’ll have a great Blessed night Cage.

Remember we have real enemies in this world . This is just a game Brothers

Greg Mendel

November 29th, 2012
11:56 pm

I’m happy we beat the aints, but I ain’t happy. Our offense was flat outplayed. People all over Ryan and little to show for our pick-your-poison receivers. Defense hung in. But that isn’t enough in post-season. 11-1 is great, beating the Aints is great, defense was great, but our offense isn’t performing anywhere near its potential. We need an O-line.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:56 pm

SP – Hw
E can’t cause MB is his age t.

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:56 pm

MR2 has to grow, but the team grew before our eyes tonight, just like I was expecting.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:57 pm

MB is an idiot.

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:57 pm

Ahh, why don’t you please ignore me coop. I would appreciate that.

Matty Bicep

November 29th, 2012
11:57 pm

Rather be an idiot than a LOOOSSERRRR. WEERREE GONNNAAA LOOOSSSEEE

Chop Buster

November 29th, 2012
11:59 pm

Good win Falcons!!! There were some very frustrating moments when we just couldn’t do ANYTHING with the ball. All we can do is hope they correct this and stop with the conservative play down the road. Whew!! Five picks from Breezy and we ended his TD streak. The defense won this game tonight.

Coop

November 29th, 2012
11:59 pm

Cage – Huge win. A little close, but never really in question. Smitty made it closer than needed.

MB wont know this cause he was molesting neighbors hampster.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:00 am

Matty just looked tight again. He is too intense, and has not learned how to win on the top tier. Hopefully he learned it is not all on him to win a game, that he does have other teammates he can trust.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:00 am

MB – you suuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. I hate you on this blog. Go blooooooooow a duck you retard.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:01 am

MB wont know this cause he was molesting neighbors hampster.

Nice, you have mental problems dude. A healthy mind does not come up that that. “Sorry to be negative, just being honest.”

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:02 am

Go blooooooooow a duck you retard. Hmmmm. Nice again. Wow.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:02 am

MB hopefully you will learn to leave aaaaaaahole

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:03 am

I think we are totally witnessing a nervous breakdown.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:03 am

MB you suck. Simple enough a hole?

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
12:03 am

Bottom line, they need to look to tweak that O-Line.

Seriously man, you can say what you want about it potentially risking Ryan an injury, but this O-Line only has to have one of these type of games in the playoffs to watch all the chips falls.

I’m sure we’ll never see it. But, you gotta give Holmes a look. This team is far too talented on the outsides to let these type of defenses slow us down.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:05 am

MB you are football stupid. Your ideas and thoughts are stupid and u worthy of consideration. You’re a troll who only picks fights. You’re a bully who needs an asssssss whooping

Birdman

November 30th, 2012
12:07 am

Wabe .I agree But the Saints D has gotten better and they were playing for it all tonight

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:07 am

Go back and look at the thread when you sober up coop, see who picked a fight….who is the bully.

Greg Mendel

November 30th, 2012
12:08 am

Agree, Wabe. BTW, four more eggs were thrown at the Saints team bus. They were intercepted.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:08 am

Anyway coop, please ignore me. I will do the same to you. Please do not call me out again, you obviously have emotional issues.

falcon21

November 30th, 2012
12:10 am

What the hell is all of this BS? Good win Falcons. PiZZ on the saints. They are done!!!

Birdman

November 30th, 2012
12:11 am

Good night Cage

GO FALCONS !!!!!

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:11 am

Anyway, was a great game. I think the team is growing, MR2 ain’t there, but again, hopefully he realizes he does not have to do it all by himself and can relax when he is in this position again.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
12:12 am

Ok, Imma enjoy this win and erase the bad stuff I saw for a little while. Need a min ofr the Taints boards to fill up with tears so I’ll just give out some props;

Owens and McClain both stepped up big time. Thank you for saving us $12 million in cap hit next year too.
The D-line…not for being great but for never quitting.
Asante, thanks for trying but heal thyself…we got you covered for now.
M. Nolan for winning this game despite Smitty. Please stay, you are much appreciated here in the ATL.
The fans at the dome, you did good tonight too.
The Hartsfield omelette tossers…that was awesome even tho you didn’t do it :) .

Off to scuba dive in Taints misery!!

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:12 am

MB – LOL…. At you loser. You suck troll and I hate you. Go upstairs and cry to your mother biotech.

I will not let you ruin this blog anymore. You’re a taint.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:13 am

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:14 am

MB love the taints

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:15 am

So we picked Bree’s 5 times and held him to 0 passing TDs…

IT’S LIKE MB BEING CORREECT

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:20 am

I will not let you ruin this blog anymore.

I am not the one who started the name calling, and starting talking about molesting animals. Really, not to sound like a broken record, but you have issues.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:24 am

MB – you suck and hove for weeks. Leave now before,harm befalls your pets.

You suck aaaaaa hole

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:24 am

Actually, notice this blog was pretty robust until you started getting bazaar. I guess we needed to have this out, to show our real selves. You sure did. Anyway, I am out.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:25 am

Win ing in spite of Smttiyball and MB and shotgum

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
12:25 am

Would you say the Falcons outplayed the Saints? Or the Saints outplayed themselves?

Again, those 5 INT’s are nice. And, this defense does have what it takes to play in the big games.

But, the offense is just a headscratcher. If the offense would even be consistently 28 ppg good, then we’d be a threat.

But, the jekyll and hyde offense ain’t cutting it.

4 games to get it fixed. As it is now, they’re not going far. They gotta get the offense *rolling*.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:26 am

Bye douchebag. You suck MB. We all hate you.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
12:27 am

“Tonight, the falcons sat on their lead – just like they always do” – Swamptard at Taintsreport

Good fishing in the sea of Taints tears but this stood out. Even the inbred swamptards see the Smittyball. You know there is a problem when your worst rivals want you to keep your HC.

The Time is NOW

November 30th, 2012
12:28 am

Time to eat some crow: Matt Bryant, sorry I questioned you. Please disregard my TD speed dial comment.

Lots of things need to happen to get on a serious roll for the playoffs. There is still time for that to happen. At least we got a monkey off our backs. Plus, we ended Brees’ touchdown pass streak. Yes, the Aints self-destructed; but that’s what they do. I’ll take it. The Falcons did show they can win a big game as a team, even if individual parts of it don’t look good. Hope they give Asante and maybe JJ next week off to heal. Maybe I’ll feel more confident tomorrow…

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:30 am

I put the offense on Ryan, you could see the tightness on his face. I love the guy, but I really do, and think when it is all said and done, he can be a HOFer….He just seemed jittery and was around the 50% range for completions. But having a good D ain’t a bad thing.

I am interested to see how we play the Giants.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:32 am

IDK, Manning tosses 3 picks, Brees 5? I am not completely discounting nolans “looks”.

Greg Mendel

November 30th, 2012
12:35 am

Slant Pattern:

I don’t think the Falcons “sat on their lead.” I think they just couldn’t improve it. I’m afraid our offense got “figured out” before the half, and had no response. That’s bothersome.

The Time is NOW

November 30th, 2012
12:40 am

It’s hard to get down about a ten point win when EVERYBODY said this was a must win game for both teams and it was the only game being played. It wasn’t pretty, but it didn’t require last minute offensive heroics.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
12:41 am

“I’m afraid our offense got “figured out” before the half” – Greg

It was figured out long before tonight.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:43 am

Well, when we were up 17, I think we were all looking for a blowout. But the Saint’s got some momentum and clawed their way back. But this ain’t the same old Falcons, even under BVG we held 4th quarter leads. Moore, Abs, Spoon, our new CB made huge plays. And that is how you win.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
12:45 am

You knew the O-Line was gonna struggle from the opening play…

On the opening play, the Saints D-Line rams through our O-Line and makes a simple pitch and catch for Ryan/TG a potential INT.

From there, we just rammed it down their throats with the run game. But, the O-Line pass protection issues started from play #1. If Smitty/Koetter can’t see that, and refuse to make a change, we’re screwed.

I’m not saying the Bears are going anywhere this season, but, at least they have the eyes to see a broken offensive line and have the pair to make changes when needed. Despite us winning games, we’ve been cutting it way to close, and it’s mainly because of the O-Line. Period.

Make a change!

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:46 am

I just think we got tight, just looked a little hesitant. you could see the look on Ryan face of “here we go again”. Hopefully we the lessons learned tonight can translate into the playoffs. Ryan completed around 50% of his passes, that ain’t gonna get it done.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
12:47 am

Put in Holmes.

Do what D3’s been suggesting. Try Holmes at LT, stick Baker at RT, move Clabo inside to RG, and move Konz to C.

It’ll never happen. But man, I’ll be all over them if this O-Line costs us a shot to make noise in the playoffs.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:48 am

The center of our Oline is vulnerable. Konz was abused tonight, that is concerning.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
12:50 am

Well, if we seal home field advantage in week 15 or so, hopefully we will get some looks at the 2nd and 3rd stringers.

D3

November 30th, 2012
12:53 am

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Atlanta Falcons moved to the brink of clinching a division championship.

Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints wound up with egg on their faces.

D3

November 30th, 2012
1:00 am

Talk about sweet justice………

After racing to a 17-0 lead, the Falcons turned to their defense to make it stand up, picking off five of Brees’ passes and ending his NFL-record touchdown streak in a 23-13 victory over the Saints on Thursday night

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
1:00 am

prior to reading comments – glad we won; but – we need a new OC. the first drive was brilliant, the other 42 minutes we were lucky Nolan was our DC. Anybody here remember Turner fumbling on the goal line at the end of the game of a previous NO game loss? deja vu – almost.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
1:02 am

Tony G, when asked why nobody wants to jump on the Falcons bandwagon:

I paraphrase:

I understand why people might not have the stomach to jump on when you look at our history. But we are a GOOD football team, and WE believe we can compete with anyone.

I got the stomach.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
1:04 am

You know, a 56-21 win would have been nice, but picking brees off 5 times and ending his TD streak is pretty sweet. Send them home thinking “what if”.

D3

November 30th, 2012
1:06 am

“That’s the first time that’s ever happened to me, so that’s extremely disappointing,” Brees said. “I pride myself on being a good decision-maker and not someone who will be a detriment to the game.”

……………Yeah, amazing what happens when you are an enourmous asshole who says that the Iraq War is the same as the Lying, Cheating, Injurous Unethical Bountygate Scheme goes about………… right douchebag Brees?

D3

November 30th, 2012
1:10 am

Douchebags have literally run out of shit to say………….

The Falcons, meanwhile, couldn’t do anything offensively. They failed to pick up a first down on five straight possessions, a stretch in which the Saints had a 289-30 lead in total yards and a staggering 18 first downs.

But the Atlanta defense kept coming through when it counted.

Late in the third, Brees rolled to his right and threw over the middle. Moore stepped in front of the receiver and returned it to the New Orleans 16. Ryan connected on first-down throws to Gonzalez and Roddy White to set up Bryant for a 29-yarder that extended the lead back to a touchdown.

———

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
1:22 am

Saints had a 289-30 lead in total yards and a staggering 18 first downs.

Actually, I give Nolan credit for this. He made the Saints earn it, did not allow the big play and tested Brees patients and pounced when he forced the ball. I say the Abe sack was the pivotal play of the game, it broke brees patience.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
1:23 am

At one time I liked Brees, but apparently living in NO has had a negative impact on his worthless butt. He juvenile, red neck response to bounty-gate (NFL is picking on us, boo, hoo), and his pre-game warm up BS while the aints are 5-6 and the Falcon 10-1 was pathetically laughable. Was nice to simultaneously end his TD pass streak and intercept him 6 times. Did ANYONE see the actual yellow flag from a ref on that last off sides? and, the “false start” penalty on Tony G? Only time the refs did not outrightly favor NO was in the SF game, so it appears SF is a bigger player in the NFL these days.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
1:28 am

The off sides on Abe was BS, the tackle moved before the snap….I liked Brees too, he was a guy who was dissed and told he could not do it, we passed on him and traded up for MV7, SD dissed him for Philip Rivers, but he proved them wrong……..but New Orleans is a sewer and will even taint the best of souls.

DHunt

November 30th, 2012
1:29 am

<<<<<<<<<Satisfied

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
1:31 am

Yep, a W is a W, a 10 pt victory formation win against the baghead sewer rats is the best win in years.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
3:04 am

MB – we got lucky. NO committed so many unforced errors – not the interceptions – which were really great individual efforts – but Moore dropping the endzone pass and Graham getting called for PI on Sproles’ TD run – plus, Sproles dropped at least 2 catchable passes. “rather be lucky than good” – but, that won’t fly post season. this was a truely awful game plan. luckily, without Payton, NO sucks.

Soup-San

November 30th, 2012
3:39 am

@D3
wHY THE SAGRETTES ARE YOUR ARTICLES ALWAYS A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT?

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
3:54 am

soup san – pull head out of tuckas. you might think more clearly.

BobbyDawg

November 30th, 2012
6:05 am

I never thought I’d say this but I was impressed with Chris Owens. Matt Ryan got slammed hard on the first play. I think that might have had a bearing on his performance throughout the rest of the game. If we clinch the div. with games left on the schedule I’d give MR2 some rest, maybe not even play him at all in the TB game. Our only chance to make it to the top is for him to be healthy and sharp.
Great Great Great play by our D tonight. I have to say Spoon does make a difference.
They need to get Samuel’s shoulder fixed. I’m glad they finally found somewhere to run Turnip oops Turner other than between the tackles. 23 — 24 — 27 those have been our scores 8 out of 12 games. With all our O weapons I think we should be doing just a little bit better than that, but 11 — 1 don’t lie. GO FALCONS………….GO DAWGS

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
7:28 am

I see I went to bed just in time. Things got fugly.

I’ll wait til the new blog to render comments…assuming it comes around today.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
7:36 am

Was the game plan of this game very similar to the game plan of the NY Giants play off game plan of last year except we have a better defense because of Nolan?

It is amazing what some of the no-name defensive players (Owens, McClain, etc.) can do when they are given a chance to play and evidently shown confidence by the DC. And talk about a fire in the belly of Bierman since Nolan arrived!

The best offensive play was the egg throwing by the airport worker. They should give him a bonus.

I find it difficult that a game plan can neutralize Roddy White and Julio Jones in the way it happened in last night’s game.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
7:38 am

Big Ray I think there was more offense on the blog than by the Falcons’ offense last night.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
7:41 am

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
7:51 am

Wings, your 7:36 post is my fear.

Trying to stay completely objective here. I know we gave the coaches a lot of flack, and they deserve a good bit of it, but possibly for different reasons. The gameplan was obviously suspect. The execution wasn’t there either. Probably a mixture of both.

But, if you had to pinpoint it to one area, it’s the same story. It’s the O-Line. Konz got blown up last night. The protection was abysmal. We can keep talking about how we’re ‘doing what we have to in order to win games’ or ‘we’re not showing all our stuff’, but the reason I’m not buying it [and you shouldn't either] is the O-Line. We’re not winning games this way because we want to win games like this. We’re not simply withholding our sets/plays. We’re getting abused up front. In all of the instances where our offense has come to a grinding halt, it’s been the protection that has been iffy. Last night, it was clear from Ryan’s first throw to Gonzo that this O-Line was gonna have a rough night. The middle of that line was getting abused.

The reason I fear what Wings bought up, the ability of the Saints to neutralize our threats on the outside, is because that’s essentially how our postseason will go this year. Will opposing defenses mount enough pressure to neutralize the mismatches they face on the outsides? Far too often this season, that has happened, and often times against ‘average at best’ D-Lines. So now, it’s been asked a million times, what would a superior D-Line do to this front? The Bears, the Giants, and Niners would all abuse this O-Line, IMO. The protection’s been inconsistent, and thus the offense has been inconsistent.

The Bears learned it in the regular season. They knew their O-Line was bad, but it wasn’t until a couple weeks ago after the Niners debacle where their line showed their fatal flaws when they realized they needed to tweak things up front. The Bears played two legitimate defenses in back to back weeks and realized their O-Line wasn’t gonna cut it, and they made changes. We on the other hand, have known for a while now that the O-Line ain’t cutting it, but have done very little to bolster it. That’s where our season ultimately lies. And they only have to have one bad game in the playoffs to send us home.

Hard to see that *not happening* when we’ve seen it time and time again this season. The Panthers sacked us 7 times. The Skins had a banged up secondary, but were able to mount pressure and neutralize us on the outsides. The Raiders, Cardinals, and Saints all managed to do the same. The fatal flaw is obvious. You may not be faulting the coaches for last night, but they deserve the brunt of the criticism for not experimenting with different rotations up front before we play for a win or go home game.

#GiveHolmesALook

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
8:10 am

Wings , LOL you’re probably right.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
8:14 am

Wabe ,

It most definitely is a mixture of both.

That said, I’m definitely sharing your fear. Konz did get abused, unfortunately he was not the only one. When the O-line can’t hold the protection, Ryan is not going to play well.

He didn’t make any serious mistakes (fumble, INT, horrendously bad throw) but he did look anxious at times.

My suggestion is going to the no huddle when we struggle. Unfortunately, the No Huddle seems to have been cast aside and we seem to want to stick with the same stuff as usual.

Folks want to see Konz take over at center for McClure, and I am more inclined to agree these days. However, it isn’t helping that he has to play RG. The center and QB have to have a certain amuont of chemistry. But whatever.

Holmes is firmly entrenched in the apprenticeship program. We won’t see him unless one of our staring Tackles gets injured.

Zoomie

November 30th, 2012
8:19 am

“. . . if you had to pinpoint it to one area, it’s the same story. It’s the O-Line.”

I’m going with Wabe on this one. Of course, I’ll do a little more detailed game breakdown later, but my impression from watching the game last night is that, once again, the O-line simply got handled.

I don’t know if we really have the horses to do anything about it at this point. I think the Falcons are working with the line they’ll live and die by.

Still, couldn’t be more thrilled with the win over the swamp rats. Will have to wait a little longer to see if that was the last nail in their coffin, but glad the Birds were able to drive one in there!

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
8:23 am

I have another thought on the offensive woes, though.

It seems that not every time Ryan gets shoddy protection does he actually struggle. There have been games where he has passed for 300+ yards this season and the problem wasn’t the ability to move the ball. It was being able to score in the red zone.

That’s the situation with the offense – if it’s not one thing going wrong, it’s another. And you never know which one it will be. Didn’t we just recently watch Ryan throw for 342 yards and zero TDs against Dallas? They were all over him – sacked him 3 times and hit him 6 overall.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
8:24 am

Did you see those one block screens the Saints were throwing to Sproles?

We need to incorporate some of those with Quizz. Actually, potentially a lot of those, because we need to find ways to slow down opposing rushes.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
8:25 am

I think the Falcons are working with the line they’ll live and die by.

Afraid so. That might save Smitty’s butt if things don’t go better in the postseason than they have the last three tries.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
8:26 am

Wabe – agreed. But we also can’t telegraph the heck out of those screens. We got eaten up on a few of them last night. Saints seemed to know almost every play we ran.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
8:31 am

Both passes to Rodgers were screens, I believe. Both were busted plays before they even began.

Roddy is targeted 7 times, only catches 1 pass. That’s crazy. That’s where people get the idea that Ryan is locking in on guys (because sometimes he actually is). But it also indicates that Roddy was receiving some serious coverage…and that should have opened things up elsewhere. But it didn’t happen that way.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
8:39 am

Big Ray, agreed on most all your points.

It is true, against Dallas, we did manage to rack up almost 450 yards of offense, so I wouldn’t say our offense necessarily came to a grindng halt. But, we did have those redzone woes that you mention.

Regarding the one block screens, those didn’t take too much time to develop for Brees/Sproles. Sproles hits the flats relatively quickly following his one swing blocker. I think those have more potential for success than these screens that are easier to identify for opposing defenses.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 30th, 2012
8:40 am

I will say it again, we will go as far as our DEFENSE takes us. Our DEFENSE is ranked 4th in scoring DEFENSE. While we’ve been focusing (fawning) over the OFFENSE, because of the big names…and the potential of big plays, Mike Nolan has kept his head down, quietly formulating a pretty stout DEFENSE. Mike Nolan is the mad scientist that stays overnight in the lab, concocting a winning formula. It was on display lastnight.

IMO, what we saw lastnight, was a coordinator that had his players ready to play…and another, not so much. IMHO

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
8:43 am

Bottom line, there has to be more creative ways to get that ball outta Ryan’s hands and slow down the rush. More no huddle would certainly help. It’s something I’m curious to hear from outta Smitty. Why aren’t we seeing it enough?

They need to get things squared away. We have a good 10 days before our next game. Hopefully they utilize it like another bye week.

Then @ CAR, vs NY, @ DET, vs TAMPA.

4 weeks to get it going in the right direction. I’ll be curious to see how they approach the Giants game. If the Niners are still 1.5 games back, how seriously do we play that game vs. the Giants knowing that they could potentially be our divisonal round matchup only a month from them?

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
8:46 am

Wabe – again…well said.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
8:49 am

Last point, I don’t think it’s too early to start looking forward at the playoff picture.

The Falcons and Niners are jockeying for that #1 seed. But, with a 1.5 game lead with 4 to play, the Falcons would really have to screw things up to not land homefield throughout and the overall #1 seed. That’d put the Niners at #2.

What happens with the #3 and #4 seeds is interesting. You have the 3 loss Bears currently in the 3 spot, but I still think the Packers win the NFC North and take the Bears place. But, with the Giants owning the tiebreaker over the Packers, would the Giants earn that #3 spot?

I have the Falcons playing whoever’s in that 4-spot in our first round matchup. IMO, it’s between the Packers or Giants. I don’t care who we play, but if I had to take my pick, give me the Packers in the divisional round and let the Giants/Niners duke it out in a 2 vs 3 matchup. We matchup better with the Packers. Nowhere near as dominant up front as the Giants, and with Nolan, I think we can slow Rodgers down enough to get away with a win.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
9:01 am

I believe we don’t really know what Koetter can accomplish. His body of work is influenced by the HC.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
9:06 am

From Walterfootball.com:

Some credit must be given to the Falcons, but most of this was on Brees.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
9:08 am

11-1 and still no respect from the media. All the talk on ESPN is how Brees lost. Walterfootball talking about how Atlanta was outplayed.

Why?

Cause even though our D was great, our O didn’t put the Saints away.

It simply isn’t in Smitty’s DNA.

So thrilled we beat the hated Saints. I’ll take any win against them, but the reason fans worry about the playoffs is becuase even when the other team plays awful and out D plays great, it seems like we barely win.

Zoomie

November 30th, 2012
9:12 am

M. Irving: “You have RW84, JJ11, and Tony Gonzalez, how do those 3 only combine for 10 catches?”

Zoomie: “Excuse me, Mr. Ryan. Let me handle that question for you. Michael, Matt’s probably not aware, at this point, how many catches his recievers had during the game. You see, the use of in-game stats are something that’s risen to prominence so that wanna-bes and has-beens that can’t get a productive job will be able to get employment talking about football long after the game has passed them by. Let me throw a few stats your way to see if you can grasp their significance: 23-13 and 11-1. See if you can take those numbers and find something about which to bloviate.”

“Mr. Irving, the game is quite different than when you played. These days, recievers are actually penalized for brutalizing defenders, knocking them down, and pushing them out of bounds to catch passes. Had TG88, RW84, HD83, and JJ11 been able to play like you did, I’m sure they’d have many more catches in tonight’s game. Conversely, if you had to play under the same scrutiny receivers do today, even in your prime, there’s little doubt the Aints defenders could’ve wrapped you up like an early Christmas present.”

“It’s tough having the best record in the NFL; it’s tough having that target on his back, so Matt’s gotta go. He’s got work to do, film to study, and important team meetings to attend. He really doesn’t have the luxury of time to sit and gab with those who are irrelevant and so obviously jealous of his accomplishments and the recent history, current standing, and future prospects of his team. So, if you have any more stupid questions, I’ll be glad to take those as well.”

“Irving? Mariucci? Bueller? Anyone?”

snacktastic

November 30th, 2012
9:22 am

Wings: HC Dinosaur?

Wings

November 30th, 2012
9:26 am

snacktastic I worry!

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
9:34 am

I would tell Mr Irvin that previous to tonight that Ryan has the following stats in the past 3 games:

34/52 for 411
34/52 for 373
29/52 for 351

All losses. Another stat, throw out NO, and we are 19-2 in our last 21 games. It is rarely pretty, but dammit, I like winning, we got over a hump last night, gotta figure out how to get over the next one.

Hopefully, we don’t face NY or 49ers until we notch at least one stupid playoff game.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
9:35 am

* Past 3 games vs New Orleans.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
9:38 am

Paddy at 3:04. New Orleans were very sloppy last night, but I will take it however I can get it against them. Hopefully this loosens us up, got a huge ugly sewer dwelling monkey off our back.

snacktastic

November 30th, 2012
9:43 am

Well, dinosaur or not, this mini-bye is coming at a great time. The Birds can win the division without lifting a finger on Sunday, and then come back and put the dagger in the Panthers after a break. I’m thinking we should sit Samuel out for at least one game to see how that shoulder heals up. The D really came through in his absence, and I think they can do it again.

LRD

November 30th, 2012
9:47 am

Morning Cage.. WE DAT!!! Man felt good to walk outta there last night with a smile. Kinda a bizarre 4Q thought. Couple thoughts
1) Christopher Owens and McClane really stepped up last night. When Asante went out after the 1st play I am sure we were all concerned and waiting for #21 to get burnt. But Owens stepped it up last night.. and again leads to the question of .. Grimes who??
2) Killer instinct. We cannot seem to just put the knife in a team and keep twisting it. 5 turn overs and only 23 points?
3) Harry Douglass needs to put one of those bike safety flags on his back… Several times last night he was so wide open. Seriously.. he had steps, leaps and bounds on his defenders, and the ball never got to him. Does Ryan even look at him? Does Ryan not trust him?
4) Roddy: Did the non call Pass Interference rattle him? Or was he putting butter on his hands last night. Bad night for 84.. expect better from him
5) O Line: I wont reiterate what everyone else has said.
6) Defense… again, won the game for us. The fact that we kept them out of the end zone going into halftime made me feel right then and there that this game was ours.
Not a pretty game, not a great game(cept for the D)… but man does it feel good to be 11-1, and having that sAINTS monkey off our back.
That being said, I do hope we are playing the superdome one more time this year.

Nookah

November 30th, 2012
9:48 am

Wabe,

you are spot on my friend regarding the OL. I am very concerned our OL is going to be our downfall. We cannot depend on Mike Nolan and our D to continuosly bale us out and that is the trend being established now. Say what you want about our receivers and running game but they are all a function of our pathetic OL. We can’t pass protect or run block. This defense we played was at the bottom of the league and we were unable to get any kind of rhythm. Ryan was under duress all day.

Coop,

I mentioned in a post some time earlier thevery same sentiment. We will not be respeted by the media until we win in the big one. I also mentioned that when we win they will speak more about what the Saints lost so I am not surprised at all.

Isn’t it ironic? The same team and QB who ran it up on us at the Swamp when he broke the record last year, and we get to be the team who breaks his streak. It’s a thing of beauty. honestly, I used to like Breeze but I am sick and tired of his pity parties every day and it is promulgated byt e media. Sick of it!!

Take that 23-13 and what’s that sound I heard? Oh, the sound of a hammer on a nail that drove the Aints into the off-season!! Go plan for the draft you dispicable self-declared “big brother”.

How sweet it is!! I leave you with the lyrics of Nest dedicated to the Aints – boom!

Come we go burn down Babylon one more time
(Come we go burn down Babylon one more time);
Come we go chant down Babylon one more time
(Come we go chant down Babylon);
For them soft! Yes, them soft! (ah-yoy!)
Them soft! Yes, them soft! (ah-yoy!)
So come we go chant down Babylon one more time
(Come we go chant down Babylon)!

Men see their dreams and aspiration-a
Crumble in front of their face,
And all of their wicked intention
To destroy the human race.

And how I know – and how I know – and that’s how I know:
A Reggae Music, mek we chant down Babylon;
With music, mek we chant down Babylon;
This music, mek we chant down Babylon;
This music, come we chant down Babylon.

Go Falcons!!

Nookah

November 30th, 2012
9:49 am

D3, blog monster on the loose!!

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
9:53 am

Harry Douglass needs to put one of those bike safety flags on his back… Several times last night he was so wide open. Seriously.. he had steps, leaps and bounds on his defenders, and the ball never got to him. Does Ryan even look at him? Does Ryan not trust him?

I have wondered that myself. It appears he and Gonzo has similar roles, and unless a play is called for HD, Ryan just ain’t going to him. He is last in Ryans progression….hopefully Ryan sees the tape and when defenses are successful in taking away the big 3, ryan will look for HD sooner.

Arno

November 30th, 2012
9:54 am

Brees is the top story– not Nolan’s D, but we knew that would happen.

MT and Quizz had seven rushes BETWEEN THE TACKLES for 95 yards in the opening quarter. 122 of their 126 total rushing yards came between the tackles. Evidence that Smith focuses on execution over scheme and always will.

Ryan set the Falcons record for most passing yards in a calendar month, breaking Bart’s record from 1981. Sure– let’s get some improvement in the O line, but give them a bit of credit.

Chop Buster

November 30th, 2012
10:09 am

Zoomie

November 30th, 2012
10:16 am

“Sure– let’s get some improvement in the O line, but give them a bit of credit.”

I’m with you on that, Arno. I’ll be watching the game and breaking it down in detail over the next couple of days. When D3 gets up the new blog, I’m sure there’s going to be some credit to pass around, and not just for the D.

I’m so happy about the Falcons beating those swamp rats, I’ll make up stuff to praise them for if I have to!
MR

DHunt

November 30th, 2012
10:19 am

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
10:19 am

“I have wondered that myself. It appears he and Gonzo has similar roles, and unless a play is called for HD, Ryan just ain’t going to him. He is last in Ryans progression….hopefully Ryan sees the tape and when defenses are successful in taking away the big 3, ryan will look for HD sooner.”

Why would he? The one time HD was thrown the ball, he got out muscled by the corner back and had to make a last minute play to prevent the interception. HD is too small and completely useless in my eyes. I would put in Drew Davis–just my honest opinion.

snacktastic

November 30th, 2012
10:37 am

DHunt: Caught that article earlier; brilliant stuff. It won’t end the epidemic of laziness among the so-called “experts”, but it sure does make them look stupid.

DHunt

November 30th, 2012
10:41 am

A little more chatter out there about the Falcons. Defense in particular getting a lot of well deserved love from beat writers. Willie Mo and DeCoud stepped it up big time last night.
http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Falcons-Safeties-Came-To-Play-/f1ec080b-52a6-4c20-9f5c-976bf7e402a7

DHunt

November 30th, 2012
10:43 am

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
10:44 am

D Hunt, great article, it has been my point since I reared my head on this blog. We are onto something special here, 10 years down the road who knows where we will be, I do not know Mr Ryans destiny, but I suspect if he stays healthy and keeps knocking, the door will open, hopefully this year.

This line sums it all up:

“plenty of legendary NFL quarterbacks have lost three consecutive playoff games during their careers. Marino. Elway. Brady. Aikman. Even Joe Montana did it:”

And SG, I am with you on Davis, I have taken some heat over my questioning of HD. I am not quick to assume the next guy is the solution, not on a 11-1 team….but Davis did look awfully good that one time he got in….

Ken Strickland

November 30th, 2012
10:51 am

Here’s what I don’t understand. HC Mike Smith, a former DEF coordinator, allowed Nolan to completely revamp the DEF, yet he insisted on retaining approximately 80% of he and Mularkey’s OFF playbook. And as a result, we’re suffering from many of the previous OFF issues.

Why does he insist on keeping his GRUBBY HANDS on the OFF, which he obviously knows very little about? He just can’t seem to resist putting his conservative minded imprint on this OFF no matter what. He’s the reason we have so many close gms. His continued BS of backing off in the 2nd half if we have a solid 1st half is getting old.

Teams now know they only have to stay close in the 1st half, because Smitty will force the team to go conservative and sit on a lead in the 2nd and give them a chance to make a comeback. After watching CLofton make so many plays against us, and seeing how we’ve struggled to stop the run without him, you have to admit he was more more important to our run DEF than might have been suspected.

trademark

November 30th, 2012
10:56 am

FINALLY

Been waiting all YEAR for one of the “talking heads” to grow a brain. Sick of all the “but” talk about the Falcons? About Ryan? Read this, please. You will smile. Finally one of them gets it.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8693526/the-falcons-inability-win-playoffs-significant-think

trademark

November 30th, 2012
10:58 am

Sorry D-Hunt, you beat me to it! :) Still, though, great article. Finally.

Nookah

November 30th, 2012
11:04 am

Greetings Cagers!!

D3,

I had an earlier post tht was eaten by the blog monster. Can you release please? Nuff respect!!

Just an FYI – our defence had 44 tackles/10 assists/1 sack and 5 INT’s.

Of these our secondary had 26 tackles/5 assists and 3 INT’s.
Great work from our secondary but it makes you wonder whay they had to make so many tackles. Is our DL not stout enough?

Ken Strick,

I’m with you bro, I am worried about MS really relying on the percentages. He is ultra conservative. I guess if a coach is 11-1 he may “think my formula is working, why fix it?”

Go Falcons!!

Nookah

November 30th, 2012
11:07 am

Dedicated to the Aint straight from the annals of the Hon. Robert Nesta Marley…..

De heathen back dey ‘pon de wall!
De heathen back, yeah, ‘pon de wall!
De heathen back dey ‘pon de wall!
De heathen back, yeah, ‘pon de wall!

Rise up fallen fighters;
Rise and take your stance again.
‘Tis he who fight and run away
Live to fight another day.
With de heathen back dey ‘pon de wall!
De heathen back, yeah, ‘pon de wall!
De heathen back dey ‘pon de wall!
De heathen back, yeah, ‘pon de wall!

As a man sow, shall he reap
And I know that talk is cheap.
But the hotter the battle
A the sweeter Jah victory.
With de heathen back dey ‘pon de wall!
De heathen back, yeah, ‘pon de wall!
De heathen back dey ‘pon de wall!
De heathen back, yeah, ‘pon de wall!

So the Saints will begin to hear in their heads …..with the 10th pick in the 2013 draft the Saints select…..

Go Falcons!!

DHunt

November 30th, 2012
11:07 am

“Combine the passing offense of the first Saints game with the defense of this game and you have a terrifying team, and I still believe they’re going to get there.”

Quote from Dave Choate over at Falcoholic. Says very well what we all should be thinking.
http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2012/11/30/3708988/when-the-saints-go-marching-out-a-falcons-saints-recap

Nookah

November 30th, 2012
11:25 am

DHunt,

Great read bro, thanks.

Dedicated to the rest of the league from Hon. Rpbert Nesta

You a-go tired fe see me face;
Can’t get me out of the race.
Oh, man, you said I’m in your place
And then you draw bad cyard -
A-make you draw bad cyard,
And then you draw bad cyard.

Propaganda spreading over my name;
Say you wanna bring another life to shame.
Oh, man, you just a-playing a game
And then you draw bad cyard (draw bad cyard);
A-make you draw bad cyard (draw bad cyard);
A-make you draw bad cyard.

I want to disturb my neighbour,
‘Cause I’m feelin’ so right;
I want to turn up my disco,
Blow them to full watts tonight, eh! -
In a rub-a-dub style, in a rub-a-dub style,
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net ]
In a rub-a-dub style, in a rub-a-dub style.

‘Cause we guarding the palace so majestic;
Guarding the palace so realistic!

Go Falcons!!!

John Waynesworld

November 30th, 2012
11:59 am

Has anyone given props to Mr. Christopher Owens yet? Wow, what a game he had.

Man Up Award!

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
11:59 am

Well, after a long night of sleeping like a baby(since the Falcons beat the hated Saints) and thinking about the game this morning, here is my breakdown of last night’s game:

1. THURSDAY NIGHT FACTOR

I tried to be objective as possible on talking about the Falcon’s responses, and one concept I added to the equation was the short week for both teams. It could explain why the offenses on both sides were completely anemic at times and poorly executed the game plan. Playing physical teams like the 49ers and Tampa Bay can really wear your team down. Yet, they both had hard teams, so I feel at the end of the day, it should cancel out.

2. Interior Offensive line CODE RED

If you have watched the other difficult games the Falcon’s have had during the season(Arizona, Oakland), where they could not get any offense going, it was because the inside of the pocket collapsed quickly on Matt Ryan. The prevents the QB from stepping in the pocket to make throws, which can explain the lack of accuracy, poor timing, tipped passes and even turnovers in those games. Last night was no different, the only Godsend is that there were no interceptions. I really have no idea what the Falcons can do about this, because two of the interior linemen were getting dominated all game and we are short on backups. Not to mention, they get zero push up the middle.

3. Defense is ready for the BIGTIME

As I stated earlier this season, the Falcon’s defense was not responsible for the Giant’s beatdown in the playoffs. Just look at the time of possession and the anemic 2 points that were scored total(by the defense, no less!). They came out tonight on a mission. It was your classic bend but don’t break beat down of a HIGH octane offense(Saints). Granted, there were some miscues by Lance Moore and Drew Brees, yet they also caught lucky breaks on some of the drives, as well(That pass between Sean W. and Moore was extremely lucky). With Mike Nolan at the helm, I am not worried about that side of the ball. I mean, our corner play with the loss of Asante(not missing a beat) shows the level of genius this coach has.

4. Do the ATL coaches(either than Mike Nolan) understand the FLOW of the game?

It seems to me that the Falcon coaches have a game plan and stick to it till the end. Even if what the game plan… just doesn’t cut it. You start the game running the ball down the Saint’s throat on the first possession… to the point where Tuner looked like the Burner. Why did they stop running it afterwards? Why didn’t they keep running it till the Saints could prove they could stop it? I mean, the run game really wears the defense down, so why start passing? Heck. I would have kept running it till the Falcons couldn’t convert a third down with it. This is my only gripe with the Coaches this game, which leads to my next point.

5. Can the real Falcon’s offense please STAND UP?

Dropped passes, penalties, tipped passes, bad throws, poor blocking, and poor routes against THE WORST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE? There were many plays that(if executed properly) would have resulted in huge yardage. What the heck is going on with these players? Are they mentally unstable when the big game arrives? Yes, you can nitpick on some plays all you want to put on the coaches, but really… these players need to step the F!CK up. I mean, did you see the defense? Can we get some of that heart? Can we get some of that fight from the Oline and receivers?

In conclusion, there are many things to be happy about. The defense is starting to tighten up, Quizz looks legit, the Falcons are starting to get their run game together, and our depth on the secondary also looks really deep under Mike Nolan. Yet, this offense needs to get their sh!t together–and fast. Everyone needs blame. It’s not only the coaches. Matt Ryan, the Oline, and the receivers need to take a long look in the mirror. They got punked out there. Can’t really get on Turner or Rodgers… they did their jobs.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
12:10 pm

Shotgun – Good write up. It is concerning that our O wasn’t more effective. With the way the D played, it should have been a huge blowout. Not unhappy with the win, and glad that the D played so well. I guess the consolation is that our D can bail out our O if needed. When was the last time we thought that?

I suspect our O will be better and hop this was just an off night. Hopefully, it isn’t that the leaguehas figured us out.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

Coop

I think it was just poor execution and the coaches trying to put a square peg in a round hole. If the defense constantly shows you a two deep safety look, I would just keep running the ball. That’s just my honest opinion. I really do not understand how this offense can lose it’s rhythm so quickly. To me, that’s on the players more than the coaches.

D3

November 30th, 2012
12:31 pm

We’ll have plenty of time to pour over all the mess from last night, and goodness knows I screamed “Smittyball” at least 20 times in the Dome during the game, but you know what, we beat the team that I hate more than any other in all of sports. Maybe it was just a bad offensive game and they were never in sync, but I’m savoring this win right now and hopefully is setting up for one of the all-time best weekends in my sports following life.

I will say that I was proven wrong by Turner last night who ran like a madman, but we definitely took the foot off the gas when we were up 17-0. Call it whatever you want, but I’ll got with SmittyBall. But even saying that, it may not be blowouts, but you can’t argue with results. 31-4 with Smith and Matt Ryan at home. Not too shabby.

Zoomie

November 30th, 2012
12:38 pm

“I will say that I was proven wrong by Turner last night who ran like a madman . . .”

You too, huh? Lately, I’ve been forcing down mouthfuls of roasted Sta-Puft Marshmallows that taste just like burnt crow.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
12:46 pm

Shotgun ,

Agreed all the way around.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
12:48 pm

Agreed on the running attack…which makes it all the more maddening that we went away from it while it was working. WTF…

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
12:56 pm

Can’t gloat enough about the win though. Exorcised a demon. Have a few more demons to get after, but that was one that needed to be gone.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
12:57 pm

Nookah – you are off teh chain, bruh…. ;)

John Waynesworld

November 30th, 2012
1:21 pm

Protection and Push…I agree with many here that the O line was hanging on by a thread against a mediocre D line. Konz had several bad plays and McClure was painful to watch in his protection. In my opinion Blalock wasn’t exactly stellar himself, especially running to the left. Opposing defenses are obviously targeting our A gaps and putting pressure right in Matt’s face, which makes him chillingly ineffective. The same in the run game with any of our RBs. I wish in these next few games we will try inserting Manley and Johnson into the Guard spots to see if we can get more push (and better protection) up the middle. We also have to look at other options beside McClure, in jumbo packages especially, but also in the passing game. When Ryan has space in front of him he is MVP-like. When hands get up in his face or the pocket breaks down (since he can’t move) he is plain as grits. We were given too many servings of grits last night and our D bailed us out.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
1:25 pm

There was one toss sweep where I had to blink and check my eyes, turner looked absolutely quick. He only gained a few yards, but I bet he had not moved like that since the Follies matinee buffet was down to their last piece of chocolate cake.

John Waynesworld

November 30th, 2012
1:26 pm

And yes, we have elite receivers and can afford to max protect every now and then just to get those guys deeper into the secondary. I didn’t see much of that last night, as we mostly had Quizz by himself or occasionally Snelling in obvious passing situations. Not enough time for Matt, imo.

Greg Mendel

November 30th, 2012
1:43 pm

I can’t explain why I was so peevish after watching the Falcons beat the Aints last night. Just beating them should be enough. So, I sincerely appreciate Shotgun’s “morning after” breakdown.

Last night, I was furious over the O-line play, and I’m still not over it. For more than two seasons, I’ve maintained that if Ryan consistently has two extra seconds without pressure, nobody can stop our passing game. I still believe that.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
1:44 pm

“I will say that I was proven wrong by Turner last night who ran like a madman . . .”

D3 I believe you will have to eat those words sooner or later because he doesn’t fit in the offense.
I am not letting up on him; he needs to go. I watched the game again and ANY back could have run through those holes he had early. Later in the game he was not getting to the smaller holes which a faster back would have exploited.

Turner is still Mike Smith’s crutch. I believe Mike Smith’s operates in a defiant mode. Last week and this week, he was determined to run the ball no matter how bad the defense of the other team is rated against the pass. There needs to be some balance. It’s either the running game or the passing game.

Ken S had a great post earlier today and he had started calling it MularkeyBall early in the year explaining it really had been (hoping I suppose) Mularkey instead of Smith. Ken said:

Here’s what I don’t understand. HC Mike Smith, a former DEF coordinator, allowed Nolan to completely revamp the DEF, yet he insisted on retaining approximately 80% of he and Mularkey’s OFF playbook. And as a result, we’re suffering from many of the previous OFF issues.
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It’s not the plays although many of them need to be destroyed.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
1:48 pm

About the pass rush up the middle:
I remember the 1998 Super Bowl team with Chris Chandler would have the rolling pocket to the right mainly when he was getting too much pressure up the middle. It was not the roll out that Matt Ryan uses sometimes.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
1:58 pm

Opposing defenses are obviously targeting our A gaps and putting pressure right in Matt’s face, which makes him chillingly ineffective. The same in the run game with any of our RBs. I wish in these next few games we will try inserting Manley and Johnson into the Guard spots to see if we can get more push (and better protection) up the middle. We also have to look at other options beside McClure, in jumbo packages especially, but also in the passing game. When Ryan has space in front of him he is MVP-like. When hands get up in his face or the pocket breaks down (since he can’t move) he is plain as grits.

Ohhhhhh….that truth hurts so bad, but the truth it is.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
2:12 pm

“Agreed on the running attack…which makes it all the more maddening that we went away from it while it was working. WTF…” – BR

This is my enjoy the win day so I’m not gonna get into anything big. I have yet to see a single person acknowledge almost the entirety of our “running success” was during the scripted portion of the 1st quarter. We never stopped running, it just didn’t work anymore after the script ended. We went right back to the ho hum same old same old and it was right back to wasted plays killing our drives, putting us into obvious passing situations which then allowed the Taints to come full force and batter M. Ryan. Turner had two decent runs to in the 3rd quarter outside of the scripted portion, the rest were pure fails as always.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
2:20 pm

SP I agree with you 100%. Nothing has really changed except it was a win this time because of the defense.

LRD

November 30th, 2012
2:30 pm

Turner: The best thing about him last night.. his first runs he ran over folks and instead of trying to dodge and juke. Want more of that “beast” style..

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
2:36 pm

“Nothing has really changed except it was a win this time because of the defense.” – Wings

That actually is a big change, I want to savor this win as long as possible. M. Ryan’s post game interview made it clear Smitty used the lead up time to focus on power running, he even says Smitty this time leaving no doubt. The scripted portion attacked mostly off tackle and Ryan said they changed the cadence/ tempo to throw off the Taints. The Turner crowd is getting to have some fun for a change, let em’ I say, it prolly won’t last too long. Breaking down the big picture will just be depressing so Im not going there today :) .

Geo

November 30th, 2012
2:38 pm

SP, good point. I said before the game that the Falcons have to learn to play in these big playoff or playoff type games. But on offense, the similarity to the last two playoff loses is striking. We start off sharply moving the ball with the run and the pass and score a TD. Then we looked befuddled the rest of the game, with Ryan either not having a receiving option to his liking or just being put under too much pressure from a rapidly collapsing line.

On a related note, I was just watching NFL Fantasy Live on NFL Netwok and one dude calling out Dirk Koetter for failing with the offense. Or does Smitty have his hands on the throttle?

Anyway, I don’t know what the answer is…we’ve certainly seen plenty of flashes of brilliance on O, but a repeat of playoff futility in the same manner is concerning. D definitely won that game for us. Thank you Mike Nolan.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
2:47 pm

BR @ 1:58

Whoever that was you posted from was spot on. 100%.

The same thing that happened with the Cardinals happened with the Saints. The interior of that line needs to be looked at hard. I know nothing will happen. They’ll keep moving forward with the status quo. But man, if they’d figure it out, this team’s potential becomes that much greater.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
2:48 pm

SP ,

Oh, you’re right. The running was indeed scripted. My point was you don’t get away from running just because the refrain becomes too familiar to the defense…you simply change the tune. It’s still music, even if the notes ain’t the same.

Therein lies the problem with guys who wear headsets.

Smitty. The Shotgun. The Bride.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
2:52 pm

“My point was you don’t get away from running just because the refrain becomes too familiar to the defense…you simply change the tune. It’s still music, even if the notes ain’t the same.

Therein lies the problem with guys who wear headsets. ” – BR

Smitty would make a great drum machine…if you needed the same beat for all your songs that is :) .

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
2:56 pm

Wabe ,

That was JohnWaynesWorld who posted it originally. Yep – he is spot on.

The fact that we have the same starting OL lineup before injuries took Reynolds out of play says it all, if you ask me.

Tell you what, though. I still vividly recall Blank’s mid-press conference comments about the offensive line during a TD “numbers” smoke and mirrors comment. Despite all the good faith comments…let us lose another playoff game due to OL issues. See if some personnel changes don’t happen. TD did some drafting even if we’re still not sure it was the best that could be done. But Smitty went and did HIS thing, and we’re seeing the results.

1) Same OL as last season’s lineup.

2) Konz at RG instead of Center, and playing only because an incumbent starter was lost to injury.

3) Ryan having issues again in large part (but not all of the reason) because of protection problems.

It is only too clear that Ryan struggles when the middle of the pocket is pushed. If I’m a DC and I know Ryan doesn’t step OUT of the pocket well because he lacks the speed and athleticism to do so…and he prefers to step UP in the pocket…then of course I concentrate on pushing the pocket up the middle, rather than collapse it from the outside.

And that is what teams are doing.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
3:06 pm

I can’t see us making it another season with Mud Duck manning the middle. Many props to him for all he’s done. Tough as nails. But getting beat way too much these days.

Konz is not as good of a Guard as he is a Center. I said I liked him at Guard if it meant he was in the starting lineup. Let me backpedal like a cyclist with extreme dyslexia…I want him at Center, and I just know he’ll be physically stronger next season.

Get us another Guard. We might have been good to go with Manuwai, but he was injured/unhealthy/whatever/toofatandslow. We need a mauler. Reynolds ain’t that, despite his size.

I actually think Blalock is pretty solid, but won’t be confused with a Pro Bowler. Baker has had his best season, possibly.

Nobody is run blocking with any consistency, nobody is magic in pass protection with consistency. Mediocrity seems to be the word of the hour. Here’s the problem with that – all O-Lines have bad days. When mediocre ones have bad days, those days are downright terrible. When bad ones have bad days, it gets a QB killed…

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:06 pm

Sorry SP, you’re greatly incorrect about the run effectiveness ATL had in that game.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=321129001&period=0

As you can see by the play-by-play break down on espn, there were many drives stalked due to the passing game/penalties. On the third drive, Turner gained two consecutive runs of 12, but ATL went to three passes straight and stopped running the ball, which lead to a punt. The flow of the game says keep running. Yet, I guess the were trying to even the amount of passes to runs, which amplifies my statement on the FLOW of the game. Passing just to make things “unpredictable” is dumb in itself. Sometimes you got to keep running the ball until they prove they could stop it. Which, they couldn’t the first few drives.

Later in the game you had a couple three and outs due to three incomplete passes in a row. You only had a couple of runs the whole game that were negative or one yard. Most were three or more. Why stop running?

The Saints obviously adjusted to protect the pass in their gameplan. Yet, the offense decided to throw anyways. If anything, the only blame I put on the coaches is not adjusting to running the ball against two deep safety coverage.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
3:06 pm

Regarding HD, IMO, it’s a valid argument to have. But, I still ain’t budging on defending HD because when I see him lead blocking for Turner on a toss sweep rather than creative type of ways to get him involved, it makes me wonder if they’re utilizing him the way we should.

It’s hard for me to buy the notion that someone with HD’s speed and open field moves is ‘useless’. Problem is, our offense is built more for the ‘possession type’ receivers. Julio would be the one exception to that, but, he’s just a freak of an athlete. When you do see HD catch passes, most times, they’re little sideline out routes or he’ll just find the dead spot in a zone and just park himself in it. Very little opportunity for him to catch a pass in stride, or to find him in open space. HD’s the type of guy that, if used wisely, could provide mismatches.

Now, you’d think that a safety on HD would be a mismatch. But, for one, Malcolm Jenkins is a corner converted to safety. Two, none of us will ever know whether HD was supposed to be on the inside of that route or whether Ryan’s ball just didn’t get over Malcolm Jenkins head. We can’t make the case the HD got ‘muscled’ by Jenkins, because honestly, none of us know where that ball was technically supposed to go. Regardless, HD still made a pretty good play by saving us from making a potential terrible play. He may have gotten ‘out muscled’ in some folks eyes, but, dude still made an adjustment on that ball to knock it away from M.Jenkins. I remember Drew Davis earlier in the season having a deep ball thrown to him and it being picked because Davis made absolutely no attempt on knocking the ball away or anything of the sort. Last thing I wanna say about this particular point, you can’t expect a *slot receiver* to out muscle a guy like Malcolm Jenkins or William Moore for that matter. You can’t expect them to win jump ball one on one battles down the field, not receivers like HD. They’re not built for that. Unless they’ve got a step on their man, that ball shouldn’t be thrown. Rather than a vertical route, had HD been on some type of deep post route, he could’ve found the separation and could’ve established the positioning he needed to make a big play.

HD has to be utilized in ways where he’s seeing mismatches. If we’d line him in the backfield a bit more, try to get some LB’s matched up with him, you’d see HD be far more effective than he’s been. Unfortunately, we’ve seen him used as any other receiver would be. A possession type of receiver with little opportunity to make moves in the open field. Of course he’ll see useless if you’re not allowing him to do what he’d do best. He’s just another ‘move the chains’ receiver in our system than a ‘playmaker’.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
3:11 pm

Shotgun – looked to me that we were not following up runs with play action passes…but then…that may indicate the lack of pass protection, which you MUST HAVE on play action passes or your QB will either get womped from the side he isn’t looking towards, or picked off.

There’s no problem with passing when the run game is clicking. Saints do it all the time. Have made a living off of it.

But you have to know what you’re doing…and the CS was trying those pass plays that looked heavily telegraphed.

We even got eaten up on most of our screen passes. Completed them, but not for much yardage. Quizz lost yards on both screen passes he got.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:11 pm

Turner 12 carries 83 yards 6.9
Rodgers 8 carries 43 yards 5.4

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
3:12 pm

If I’m a DC and I know Ryan doesn’t step OUT of the pocket well because he lacks the speed and athleticism to do so…and he prefers to step UP in the pocket…then of course I concentrate on pushing the pocket up the middle, rather than collapse it from the outside.

Agreed, crash the A gap and play Tampa 2. Saw it in the Panthers game.

They are doing it with numbers too, it is not just the tackles beating us, so I don’t put it all on the line, although Konz was turnstiled last night.

Ryan has to move ouside, when he sees it coming, he has to get outside. It is the NFL, if a QB has a weakness, they are gonna find it….I know what Ryan has to work on next off season.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
3:12 pm

But, I still ain’t budging on defending HD because when I see him lead blocking for Turner on a toss sweep rather than creative type of ways to get him involved, it makes me wonder if they’re utilizing him the way we should.

There it is.

This borders on the realm of the ridiculous….a la throwing to Joe Hawley on a screen/slant.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
3:14 pm

But, I still ain’t budging on defending HD because when I see him lead blocking for Turner on a toss sweep rather than creative type of ways to get him involved, it makes me wonder if they’re utilizing him the way we should.

Sums it all up right there. This borders on the realm of the ridiculous. You know….that land of insanity where you pass it to Joe Hawley on a short slant.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
3:15 pm

Damn blog monster…

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
3:16 pm

But, I still ain’t budging on defending HD because when I see him lead blocking for Turner on a toss sweep rather than creative type of ways to get him involved, it makes me wonder if they’re utilizing him the way we should.

There it is…calls like this have you wondering where ideas like this come from. That’s a third of a step away from the ridiculous notion of throwing to Hawley.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:17 pm

Big Ray

Defense dictates how you operate, and the Saints were in dual safety deep coverage. Play action or not, you don’t try to pass into that. It was just one of those game where you need to just run the ball. The Daints were obviously playing the intermediate and deep pass protection the whole game. Sometimes you gotta throw passing out the window and shove it down their throats until they start giving you great passing looks. That’s all I’m saying.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
3:17 pm

Wabe,

Great point about how HD is being utilized. I moaned during the game about that particular play. Insane. Kinda like throwing to Hawley on a short slant…

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
3:18 pm

And Shotgun, I got a chance to go back and watch bits and peices of that game again, and truth be told, I’m actually with you on most of your arguments regarding what slowed the offense down. There’s a valid criticism that can be made regarding the gameplan/coaching, but, you can’t overlook the execution portion of it – or mainly the struggles of the O-Line. We saw Koetter try to throw some screens in there a couple times to slow that rush down, but, they weren’t effective and had little impact.

I know we all have a tendancy to jump on the ‘Smittyball’ thing, and I’m as guilty as anybody. I remember saying at one point last night that ‘Koetter was on my heads roll list’. But, if you watch it again, you can make a valid argument that ‘Smittyball’, or running Turner, whatever Smittyball is classified as, would’ve actually been more effective for us last night. I’m not talking about the ’sitting on leads’ stuff. I’m talking about the ‘running Michael Turner’ rather than attacking defenses. Last night, on our opening drive, we had like 6 rushes vs. 1 pass, and scored easily. All our runs came from under center. The next drive, we came out of ’shotgun’ and ran a toss sweep to Rodgers, and we got away from what we had been doing so well on that first drive. It might’ve been wiser to continue to run that football from under center and make the Saints stop it before we went into any ‘attack mode’ type offense. After running it as effectively as we did on drive one, why we came out of shotgun on the 2nd drive made no sense. If anything, you had the Saints defense in a completely reactionary state. The playaction game could’ve been lethal. Turner/Quizz could’ve still made some plays. We just got away from it, rather than exploiting it. I don’t buy that the Saints ’settled in’ at that point in the game. We just got away from what we were doing.

Maybe at some point they may have settled in, but why we went to shotgun [and I usually advocate for Matt being in shotgun] and turned things over to Matt when we could’ve continued pounding that ball behind Cox as the lead block didn’t make much sense to me. For once, it was actually working.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:21 pm

As for the screens getting blown up, it was bad execution most of the time. The plays were called at the appropriate times, but the Oline wasn’t getting to their spot or the running back took to long to get up field.

As for the HD argument, say what you will, but the guy limits our package because he can’t block or create separation. Drew Davis did screw up on that pass play, but he’s in his first year and has way more upside than HD, IMHO.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
3:21 pm

“Sorry SP, you’re greatly incorrect” – BL

:) . Seems Smitty isn’t the only one with an incurable learning disablity. Today is my day off but you will get the attention your crave soon enough.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
3:24 pm

But, regardless of how the execution was on the plays that were called, why we got away from what was working is still on the coaching.

So again, coaches share some, and IMO, more of the blame.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
3:26 pm

Shotgun, you can make the case the execution on those plays was off, but it doesn’t get the coaches off the hook from diverting from what’s working.

Back to back weeks now, we’ve gotten things twisted in a big way. Last week against Tampa, a team that ranks tops in the league against the run, we came out and ran that football more than you would think we would. This week against the Saints, who rank dead last against the run [and who we clearly exploited on the opening drive], we got away from it.

It boils back down to how to attack defenses. They’re still having a hard time figuring out the best way to use our skill players, and how to attack opposing defenses.

John Waynesworld

November 30th, 2012
3:29 pm

“I remember Drew Davis earlier in the season having a deep ball thrown to him and it being picked because Davis made absolutely no attempt on knocking the ball away or anything of the sort.”

Wabe, to make matters worse, on that play Davis slowed on his route almost to a stop until he saw that Matt had already let the ball go deep, and it was all he could do to catch up to the ball before it was intercepted. I saw a coaching analysis of that play and that pick was all on Davis and his inexperience of not seeing the defenders rotating coverage. Matt made the proper read but got an interception for his trouble.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
3:29 pm

Now sold on HD, I just think he is better as a wideout, he seems to produce there. The slot has to have that “get open” in tight spaces gene, and the trust of the QB. I just don’t think he has that. Wes Welker is the perfect slot guy, and I just don’t see it.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:29 pm

SP

Can you every have a discussion without insulting people? You baffle me.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:30 pm

SP

Can you ever have a discussion without insulting people? You baffle me.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
3:31 pm

“We saw Koetter try to throw some screens in there a couple times to slow that rush down, but, they weren’t effective and had little impact.” – Wabe

Someone made mention of the Taints playing Tampa 2 and crashing the center of the line. They didn’t mention the Taints using press man to disrupt the timing of our routes and allow the rush to have effect. The Taints watched film of what killed our offense while Smitty labored unceasingly to reinvent the Turner wheel. There are adjustments that should have been figured out a long time ago to combat this. The planned or scripted screens will not be effective against this particular strategy because most of the defense is too close to the LOS. The key is to buy time and hit the seams/ donut hole that is created. We burned Loftons sorry worthless arse with TG on his TD pass in this manner once. The quick fake bubble screen play similar to D. Davis’s TD play would have been effective as the defense is looking for a hot read/ quick toss. If the team would quit worrying so much about power running and focus on the more important issues alot of this will improve.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
3:31 pm

I mean, after the success we saw Turner/Quizz have, how do you only end up running Turner and Quizz a combined 20 times.

Last week at Tampa, Turner ran 13 times for 17 yards, and Quizz ran 10 times for 49 yards.

This week, we ran Turner 12 carries for 83 yards. 12 carries for 83 yards! And he only had 12 carries?!? Turner hasn’t had a game that good all season, and when he’s actually ballin’, we don’t get him the carries. Quizz averaged over 5 ypc and Turner averaged over 6 ypc.

Bottom line, they got away from it. Only 20 carries between the two of them combined on a night they clearly were finding holes.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:33 pm

Wabe

Thanks for the responses in a civil and non-arrogant manner. Wish other people would follow example.

Also, please let me be clear, I am on the coaches, too. It still doesn’t change the players didn’t execute and got punked on the offensive side of the ball.

I’m just pointing out the coaches are not only to blame, except their refusal to go with the FLOW of the game.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
3:34 pm

SP, very good point.

Agree, there are better ways to attack it.

But honestly, I have no problem with Smitty’s insistence on power running if we’re as effective as we were on that opening drive. 7 plays, TD. Turner was actually mighty effective last night, and so was Quizz. I think they should’ve pounded that ball down their throats.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
3:36 pm

The planned or scripted screens will not be effective against this particular strategy because most of the defense is too close to the LOS.

This is exactly right, the screen is effective if pressure is coming from the outside and the DEs can get pushed downfield beyond the RBs, Then the DEs have to slow down. If the pressure comes up the middle and the DE says at home, the screen is a bad play to call, liable to get picked off, like Peters did to Cam last year.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
3:36 pm

Shotgun, the only ‘lack of execution’ I point to is on the O-Line truthfully.

Yeah, we had a couple drops, but that ain’t the reason this offense came to a grinding halt.

How to attack the defense [coaching] and protection [execution] is the biggest culprit of our offensive woes.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:40 pm

Wabe

Exactly. They were doing a heck of a good job finding holes.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
3:48 pm

Really, somebody mention that HD was open all night, so if they were playing tampa 2 and pressing Roddy and JJ, and obviously paying attention to Gonzo, HD should just swing out and go to the middle of the field to spot vacated by the MLB. If he ain’t doing that, he ain’t making the right read.

It is simple, if they are bringing pressure from the middle, we got to attack it with short passes and go for YAC. I know if you did that to the Pats, they would eat it up.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:49 pm

Also, put into consideration that running the ball effectively tires the defensive line, which helps in the overall passing game. Food for thought.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:54 pm

MB

Pocket gotta be clean for the short passes. That’s why Brees got intercepted twice last night. It’s hard to check down/short pass with linemen in your face.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
3:57 pm

“”Can you every have a discussion without insulting people?” – BL

Yes, the people here that don’t insult me to start a pissing contest get treated the exact same way. You ask for things then cry when you get EXACTLY what you ask for. Arrogance is assuming to be correct because “YOU” said so. I back my assertations up as you will find out yet again for the umpteenth time. You don’t honestly think you are the only person here that knows where and how to read the post game play by play do you? I would read those stats a little closer because I will use that EXACT webpage you brought up to prove my point, because I am an arrogant jackarse like that.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
3:59 pm

Pocket gotta be clean for the short passes. That’s why Brees got intercepted twice last night. It’s hard to check down/short pass with linemen in your face.

Yea, you gotta have that lane, but I would think it is the hot read, you can’t be pump faking. I just think that is what a slot needs to be doing in that situation. Now, HD might have been there, I don’t know, but I would think we got to figure out what HD was, and go to him if he is not being covered.

Shotgun

November 30th, 2012
3:59 pm

Wabe, I would have to say 50/50. There were also some bad passes by Ryan, one which almost lead to an INT the first play. Everybody was off. I’m a stern defender of Ryan, but he had some bad throws yesterday. Three dropped passes, too. It doesn’t seem like much, but when you only have a small amount of offensive possessions the whole game(only 6 in the third quarter), every little hiccup matters.

Big Lou

November 30th, 2012
4:03 pm

SP

I haven’t insulted you the first time I said you were incorrect. The arrogance comment came after your stab at my intelligence. Please go play in traffic. I’m done responding to your posts this point forward. I tried to start it off civil, but you just can’t help yourself.

I just got to accept that that’s who you are. I have no issues with anyone else in here, though.

Oh yeah, Falcons won. No more Shotgun.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
4:04 pm

Anyway, I am going to try to stay away from controversial topics. It seems that the slot is the open guy.

If you have 5-6 attributed to the big 3, 1 on the RB, and rush 4 or 5. Nobody is covering the slot.

I also see Ben Jones is playing RG, for what that is worth.

PlanB

November 30th, 2012
4:24 pm

Matty Bicep – Too bad Kerry Meier didn’t work out in that slot position. I hope he tries out next year. I’m not ready to give up on him yet. One more early injury and I would be.

D3

November 30th, 2012
4:40 pm

BR — Your posts are out.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
4:40 pm

“This week, we ran Turner 12 carries for 83 yards. 12 carries for 83 yards! And he only had 12 carries?!? Turner hasn’t had a game that good all season, and when he’s actually ballin’, we don’t get him the carries. Quizz averaged over 5 ypc and Turner averaged over 6 ypc.” – Wabe

Since BL backed down and no longer wants to play, I don’t need to be an arrogant arse making anyone wait until after my day off. I will weave it into your post instead but please don’t mistake that for me attacking you, just gonna go over the cold merciless stats.
Bl used this link ( http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=321129001&period=0 ) to ESPN’s play by play which is fine but I prefer to use NFL.coms ( http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012112900/2012/REG13/saints@falcons#menu=highlights&tab=analyze&recap=fullstory&analyze=playbyplay ) as it has attached highlights. Turner has 12 rushes for 83 yards, his long being 35 yards. If one reads all of Turners’s runs we will find that Turner had 5 rushes of 5 yards or greater totalling 69 yards. 83 – 69 = 14 yards for Turners other seven rushes, an avg of 2.0 per rush. This shows that the majority of Turners runs were not effective…7 of 56 plays roughly equals near 15 percent of our offensive plays were not effective.
BL was actually correct that I was incorrect. Turner only had ONE decent rushing play from the 3rd quarter on, not the two I gave him credit for. Since this is no longer a pissing contest I will let everyone else make their own opinions but you will note that at least 2 drives from the 3rd quarter on started with a failed Turner run/ 3 and out plus a fumble.

Big Lou

November 30th, 2012
4:59 pm

SP

Not all run plays will hit for 3-4 yards. And the main point of the post was focusing on the first quarter, when Turner wasn’t being stopped. You talk about attacking in the secondary, but they could of kept attacking on the ground. On the third drive, which you choose to ignore, Turner had 2 straight runs for 12 yards and then the Falcons pass three straight times for a punt.

As I said before, FLOW of the game. They couldn’t stop the run in the bet of the game, so keep running it. As for effectiveness, yards are yards. And getting a few yards from a run is better than getting zero yards from a pass, not to mention you wear the defensive pass rush down.

Your point proves nothing, since the offense passed ten more plays then they ran. It wasn’t balanced and they tried to force the pass.

You know that 3rd quarter where they were anemic?

First drive was a turner run for 5 yards and then 2, which was negated by a penalty. Screwed up pass plays after that.

Second drive was three and out with passes.

Third drive was the only drive that the run was ineffective.

Still, that doesn’t change the fact the Saints could not stop the run in the beg. of the game, and the Falcons stopped, which let them back in.

Big Lou

November 30th, 2012
5:01 pm

Also,

I was not only talking about Turner. My post was about the run game, period.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
5:14 pm

Shotgun:
Turner 12 carries 83 yards 6.9
Rodgers 8 carries 43 yards 5.4

Here is another way of looking at the “effectiveness” of the running game:

MTurner
For the game Turner 12 carries for 83 yards
In the first quarter Turner 5 carries for 67 yards
For the rest of game Turner 7 carries for 16 yards (2.3 avg)

JzRogers
For the game Rogers 8 carries for 43 yards
In the first quarter Rogers 3 carries for 31 yards
For the rest of game Rogers 5 carries for 12 yards (2.4 avg)

Second Qtr Runs
There was a total of 11 offensive plays in the 2nd quarter not counting punts and field goals.
Three of the 11 plays were runs on first down. Two runs by Turner for 4 yards (2,2). One run by Rogers for -1 yards which was the first play of the second quarter.

Effectiveness of Run Game?
The run game was successful in the first quarter but the results for the other quarters don’t appear successful to me. I think SP said it worked in the beginning because it was scripted. The trend had already changed to NO stopping Turner and Rogers by the start of the second quarter. Would running the ball on more than 3 of the eleven plays changed things? Once the running game was stopped by NO, the offense was dead. Matt Ryan’s words say that when he said Smitty’s emphasis was the power running game. Ken Strickland said Smitty needs to keep his hands away from the offense. I believe Ken is right.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
5:18 pm

“I’m done responding to your posts this point forward.” – BL

“SP

Not all run plays will hit for 3-4 yards.” – BL

I’m really tempted here but we won the game so this should be happy times day. You say I “baffle you” and that applys back in your direction too. I can’t tell whe you are playing or asking for a Cage death match yet like say with BR…it will come in time for both of us. Hey, at least I gave you credit for proving me a “little incorrect” instead of “greatly incorrect”. I’m either getting soft in my old age or just happy we beat the Taints.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
5:29 pm

The bottom line of all of our posts is:

There has to be a running game and a passing game. The Falcons don’t have a power running game and it is time to stop pretending. The running game needs to evolve into some better plays to utilize the backs that we have. As someone said it best, the HC needs to stop reinventing the Turner Wheel. The Falcons have more weapons in the passing offense and to place an emphasis on the power running game is a big mistake by the HC. It was obvious the passing offense was not prepared for the game. That is a coaching mistake.

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
5:34 pm

“Shotgun:
Turner 12 carries 83 yards 6.9
Rodgers 8 carries 43 yards 5.4

Here is another way of looking at the “effectiveness” of the running game:

MTurner
For the game Turner 12 carries for 83 yards
In the first quarter Turner 5 carries for 67 yards
For the rest of game Turner 7 carries for 16 yards (2.3 avg)

JzRogers
For the game Rogers 8 carries for 43 yards
In the first quarter Rogers 3 carries for 31 yards
For the rest of game Rogers 5 carries for 12 yards (2.4 avg)

Second Qtr Runs
There was a total of 11 offensive plays in the 2nd quarter not counting punts and field goals.
Three of the 11 plays were runs on first down. Two runs by Turner for 4 yards (2,2). One run by Rogers for -1 yards which was the first play of the second quarter.

Effectiveness of Run Game?
The run game was successful in the first quarter but the results for the other quarters don’t appear successful to me. I think SP said it worked in the beginning because it was scripted. The trend had already changed to NO stopping Turner and Rogers by the start of the second quarter. Would running the ball on more than 3 of the eleven plays changed things? Once the running game was stopped by NO, the offense was dead. Matt Ryan’s words say that when he said Smitty’s emphasis was the power running game. Ken Strickland said Smitty needs to keep his hands away from the offense. I believe Ken is right.” – Wings

Apoogies for copying the whole thing when space is getting to be at a premuim but this post is worth not being buried. Great job on the analysis Wings and excellent questions. I think you, I, and a few others on on the same page in answering those questions but I won’t mind someone being contrarian. Please note the large lock on my cage is broken and I can come out at any time lol.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
5:34 pm

SP I went to the ESPN stats and listed the entire running game both Turner and Rogers. Look at them if you missed them. It is pretty obvious the offense sucked for three quarters.

JB Falcon

November 30th, 2012
5:45 pm

Wow! I had company last night and just now got caught up. Seemed to me like the running game worked so well during the first drive was because NO came out thinking we were going to light them up with JJ, RW, and Gonzo and not the run game. After the first series they tightened up their run defense. What puzzles me is how they tightened up the run defense but still managed to cover our main weapons.
They did NOT, however, manage to put up more points than we did, no matter how crappy or good each team played, and that, to me, is what counts.

Big Lou

November 30th, 2012
5:59 pm

We are splitting hairs. I understand your arguments, but the fact is… they stopped running it after Turber had two straight runs for 12 yards. Scripted or not, they should have kept running it on that drive. It would have been much better than three passes for zero yards and a punt.

As for breaking down effectiveness, of you have played offense in the past, then you know the offense is all about rhythm. They went away from running the ball and waited too long to get back to it. Also, runs are not always going to be big gashes. Look at SF, Texans, ect. They have big run plays, they have short ones, they have negative yards. Running the ball is not always about getting chunks of yards. It’s about wearing defenses down and keeping them from playing deep coverage/man on man(screen).

You can poke at the stats all you want, but the passing was anemic. It wouldn’t have hurt to run more. They had a better chance with what the defense was giving them.

Big Lou

November 30th, 2012
6:02 pm

Wings

Great post, but the run game is about being efficient overall, not every play.

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
6:04 pm

I’m with Big Lou on this one fellas.

If you have the game taped, or get a chance to watch it again somehow, just watch our approach on the first 3-4 drives. It seriously is headscratching stuff. Even if you don’t wanna pound the ball, and you wanna throw, it boggles my mind why we didn’t see a heavier dose of the playaction game. Why couldn’t we get a shot downfield outta the success of the run game early.

I’d really recommend watching bits of the first 3-4 offensive series again.

With all that said, I know things can get heated in here, but we can just agree to disagree about it. Don’t need to let emotions get the best of us.

Zoomie

November 30th, 2012
6:05 pm

Food for thought: is it possible Dick Koetter is a dirt-track crew chief that was handed the keys to a Formula One team?

Wabe

November 30th, 2012
6:11 pm

And I’d have to go back and check it again, but we were successful early in the game running our backs behind Cox from under center.

Like we said last week, how we’re running is something we gotta take a peak at to. We had success running it between the tackles and behind the blocking of Mike Cox early. I saw us institute some tosses after that, but I’d have to go back and see exactly what kinda run plays were being called.

The stats may support that the run game died after the early success, but, based on what I saw outta the first 3-4 series, there were no signs of the run game killing our drives, rather it was abandoning the run in favor of the pass. We ran Turner successfully for two 12 yard runs consecutively, and then on the next set of downs, we had three straight throws and failed to pick up a single first down.

Zoomie

November 30th, 2012
6:13 pm

Okay, let’s try this again (apparently, the Blog Monster doesn’t like me spelling out his full name):

Food for thought: is it possible that D. Koetter is a dirt track crew chief that was handed the keys to a Formula One team?

JB Falcon

November 30th, 2012
6:16 pm

Both sides of the discussion have merit. Seems to me the purpose of the balance every team must have is to be able to mix the run with the pass. Use one until the other team starts loading up on you then sting them with the other. It didn’t say which one because it doesn’t matter, you have to have both.
We have a better passing offense than run but we still have to make our run game effective. If all had was a running game every team would put 11 men in the box and it works both ways. Passin only = rush two.
In the end, we didn’t have a lot of either one. The defense won the game for us, this time.

JJ

November 30th, 2012
6:43 pm

Lots of great posts today, esp. liked Big Lou 11:58.

SP, You have some competition and his name is Coop. He got the nasal coffee going this morning with the fireworks afer the game!

BL n SP, you guys are probably not enjoying the family feud but its definatly entertaining for the rest of us. Its happens every yr and will agan in the future. We are fanatics by definition so of course high emotions will be involved, esp after a game. It will blow over so no biggie.

Im fokkin ecstatic we beat the most vile team in all of sports AND ending breesus td streak. Of all the teams to end it, it was us. THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wings

November 30th, 2012
6:44 pm

JB you make a lot of sense on those posts.

falcon21

November 30th, 2012
6:52 pm

JJ, Coop did a good job but MB the mad blogger still cannot take a hint!

JB Falcon

November 30th, 2012
6:55 pm

I read an article the other day about Pat Schiller and now I can’t find it. Does anyone have the link for it? I sure would appreciate it!

falcon21

November 30th, 2012
6:56 pm

I guess I fell asleep and dreamed we won because listening to the talking heads, they make it sound as though we lost.

JJ

November 30th, 2012
6:57 pm

f21, he did indeed, lmao this am but D3s policy is best…dont bite that shinny lure. Ive broken that policy many times but I enjoy other cagers that take the bait.

JB Falcon

November 30th, 2012
6:59 pm

21, someone posted the best explanation for the mad blogger. “Large ego’s have small ears.” I don’t know who posted it but you cannot reason nor explain to some folks.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
7:02 pm

It was me JB. I think I heard that from Norman Vincent Peale long ago.

JJ

November 30th, 2012
7:03 pm

About to rewatch the game with particular interest with our OL.
(and with much less libations…I passed, I mean I fell asleep at half time!)

falcon21

November 30th, 2012
7:04 pm

Hear ya JJ, you, me, JB and many others tried to talk football with the dude but it always turned out the same.

falcon21

November 30th, 2012
7:07 pm

JB, Wings is 100% right!

Unca' Bob

November 30th, 2012
7:12 pm

I watched as much of the game I could prior to my TV watching me. What I saw was all good. I’ve not gone back and looked at the DVR yet. How many times did we get to our no-huddle, if at all. I do know we only used it once last week against the Bucs. Have we ever asked ourselves why don’t we use it more often? I know I have had questions and I don’t know ,but, I’ll throw something out there on my thoughts. We haven’t used it because for the most part, the FO have thought all along we can beat these teams without it! I feel our Falcons are going to bring the entire can of whoop-fanny in the second season. Look for it!

Slant Pattern

November 30th, 2012
7:13 pm

“SP, You have some competition and his name is Coop.” – JJ

That was funny as hell no doubt. Coop knows the old school Cage Death Match rules, or lack there of *cough*. I gave BL the fairest chance anyone has had here in a long time as I hadn’t fully made sure of certain things. Missing on one run from a hazy post victory over the Taints night concerns me none :) . Wings did the full analysis allowing me to continue enjoying the victory day for which I’m quite thankful to be sure. The board has been enertained and unlike the other boards that spout stuff with no research to back it up, we are all just a little more informed for the effort. If BL hadn’t taken KS’s contrarian spot the board would be a lot more boring so I don’t mind BL at all…don’t tell him that tho!

JJ

November 30th, 2012
7:20 pm

SP, you BOTH bring allot to the table and glad your both part of the cage family!

Wings

November 30th, 2012
7:21 pm

SP my first conflict with him more than a year ago was about power running.

Wings

November 30th, 2012
7:26 pm

Has anyone seen the equipment problem that one of the cheerleaders had when doing a flip. Someone mentioned it after the game was over. I tried to watch for it this morning as I watched it again. I forgot about it and probably missed it.

JJ

November 30th, 2012
7:26 pm

UB, Always glad to see you in the cage, brings a smile to my ugly mug. This has to be your longest post in yrs…and of course I agree…wtf with no-huddle? Je ne sais pas my friend…1 yr french before invasion, otherwise would have taken spanish! lol, take care UB, hope I get you in week 14 or SW!!!

JB Falcon

November 30th, 2012
7:35 pm

UB, you make a great point. Everyone says that all of the other teams know what we’re going to do because we’re so predictable. Maybe the FO is fixin’ to change that!
If you can see what you’re up against, it’s not really scarey. But, if you have no idea what it is, that’s another story. Ever been lost in the woods on a dark night and hear something, but you don’t know what it is?

JJ

November 30th, 2012
7:35 pm

Wings, come on man, dont leave us hangin with a post like that…FIND IT!!! ;)

falcon21

November 30th, 2012
7:36 pm

I could not figure out why we are not using the no huddle, not many teams have been able to stop it. Thanks Unca’ Bob, that does make sense.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
7:53 pm

well, I fear i’m in the minority – but after that first series, Turner did not deliver a whole lot the rest of the game. We now have a loooong track record of playing like crap – especially on offense – when we meet an opponent for the 2nd time – unless that opponent is really crap (carolina last year). Only one conclusion: our offensive playbook is garbage. no fing way the saints shut down both JJ & RW84. no efing way. but, after the 1st quarter, should the OC NOT have noticed that Konz was having problems and provided chipping help? I saw mcclure get whooped quite a bit too. The Giants game will give us a good glimpse into how good we really are. sadly, we might meet the giants a 2nd time only a few weeks later.

JB Falcon

November 30th, 2012
7:54 pm

UB, let me add to my last post. Instead of saying “pick your poison”, whay don’t we say “You’re in a world of sh!t!”
I’ve always said, I got brains I ain’t even used yet!

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
7:59 pm

I stated after the Carolina game, folks would watch tape of that game and copy it – if you get push on us up the middle, dim bulb Kotter does NOT react and adjust his playcalling- boot leg, roll out, anything. We have the most talented offensive players, but the combination of Smitty & Welcome back have a football IQ offensively of about 15. However, Smitty trotting our Bryant for that 55 yarder took some serious balls. If we fail in the post season again, I see both smitty & welcome back being show the door. we could use mike martz or sherman.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
8:03 pm

MB – I want to publicly apologize for my post game tirade last night. I went back and read my posts and I didn’t like the way I felt. I don’t care for you and I do think you troll for fights, but I shouldn’t have blown a gasket. So you have my sincere apology.

Cage – I apologize to you all as well. I was soooo geeked for this game and sooooo relieved to win, that I let my emotions get the better of me. I have let MB get under my skin for weeks, and it all came out at once. I’m better than that, though I didn’t show it last night.

Shotgun – I like shotgun better than Big Lou. Just an opinion, but I thought it was cool.

JJ – I’m making a FFL comeback. Decoud and Abe were huge for me last night.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
8:09 pm

I looked at the play by play – turner had 5 running plays – not counting the fumble – where he gained less than 3 yards (only 1 actually gained 3). He gained 35 in one run. it is the same crap with him. without effective pass blocking, this team is screwed.

Arno

November 30th, 2012
8:09 pm

Thanks for the apology COOP. Accepted.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
8:10 pm

whoever drew up the play where HD was a blocker is a profound idiot. I’d say that was Welcome Back. Why do we think he is anything special? Tell me how great J’ville was again?

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
8:13 pm

shotgun – you still have that dumb ass notion that YOU should control how other folks interact with you. if you don’t like the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
8:17 pm

however, you slice it – considering the talent we have on offense, we have an inept OC.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
8:18 pm

I hope folks begin to consider how effective snelling has been in limited action. and, he is quicker to the hole than slo mo turner.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
8:20 pm

coop – just some humble advice – if some folks here really annoy you, simply stop reading their posts. it helps out quite a bit – sort of like divorcing a know it all, worthless wife who won’t stop spending your money, wont work or clean up the house. and whose cooking sucks.

Arno

November 30th, 2012
8:22 pm

I’m exhausted. 20 minutes of triumph, 20 minutes of horror, 20 minutes of gut-wrenching. Glad to be self-employed– my work day was a wash, but I did not get into too much trouble. Much has been said/argued about the O lapses. Just want to add this concerning the reputedly worst defense in the history of western civilization: the Saints should get a bit of credit. Saints kept opponents out of the end zone 12 times this year when they’ve had a first or second down inside the 5-yard line. Saints D held the vaunted Kaepernick/49ers to 17 points. Lofton made some plays last night. They got that almost disastrous strip– which reminds me: aren’t they supposed to blow the whistle when forward progress is stopped?

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
8:23 pm

I blame the moribund offense on absolutely horrible offensive game planning. Welcome Back is not that much better than MM. He does NOT do great pivots mid game; and our WR route running appears to be stuck on what? 3 routes? IF HD was open so much, why not instruct Ryan to key on him? Bad/blind coaching?

JJ

November 30th, 2012
8:26 pm

Coop, My friend its all good. You know me, Ive studied every scenario of our playoffs seating and there is a real poss. you tie 2 other cagers (JWW and Nookah) for the 7h and 8th.
So if all 3 of yall finish at 6-7, only 2 can go fwd. The tie breakor for playoffs are the previous matchups. (Go to league then settings and scroll down to playoffs).
You lost to Nookah but the bust baller is the tie with JWW, he wins due to the tie.
Double check my math, but Im afraid the top 8 are set in stone my friend!

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
8:27 pm

wings if you find footage of the that equipment malfunction – be sure to post a link!

John Waynesworld

November 30th, 2012
8:27 pm

Yes, I noticed the lack of the no-huddle and immediately thought it was the usual defensive-minded M.O. of Smith, killing the clock to give Brees less chances. It just seems kind of gutless to me but it probably made the game significantly shorter, hence less chances for Brees.

JB Falcon

November 30th, 2012
8:29 pm

Coop, there’s not a person in the cage that hasn’t posted things that we wished we could take back. That’s what’s so great about the cage. We’re all intertwined by a love for our team and emotions are a big part of being a fan. (fanatic) You were here before me and you are an integral part of the cage.
At least you have the gonads to own up, even though it wasn’t necessary.
Everyone on this blog knows that there are some folks that pop in who thinks their sh!t don’t stink. So it be.

falcon21

November 30th, 2012
8:32 pm

Paddy O, not gonna argue with any of your posts, I agree with most everything you have said and you may be right about DK. I just think our biggest failures are caused by our weak o-line and it will hurt us in the playoffs.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
8:32 pm

their pollyanna, utopianistic manure is odorless. yes.

JB Falcon

November 30th, 2012
8:40 pm

PO, 8:20, so you ain’t gettin’ any?

The Time is NOW

November 30th, 2012
8:49 pm

Hi Cage! You guys have been on a roll today. Too many goods posts to mention without leaving something worthy out. Still have nothing worthwhile to offer, so I’ll check out. Later

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
9:42 pm

Coop ,

I wasn’t offended, and I’ll leave that thought right there. I think you can imagine why.

As for your mea culpa, it takes a man to do what you did. While some will say that an apology does not negate the deed, at least the apology was there.

Personally, I think somebody owes Unca Bob a very similar apology for falsely accusing him of something we know him not to be. And I find it ironic that such an apology has not been issued, yet offended parties would eagerly climb the cross for the same sorts of things that they’d crucify others for. Oh, irony thick enough to cut with a knife.

Sometimes I think there is no justice in this world, then I remember this is a blog, and if it was a sports bar, I know I’d probably have bloody knuckles….

Anyway, before I do a swan dive off the deep end with spear gun in hand, let me just say you’re cool with me.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
9:54 pm

Big Lou ,

Stick with “shotgun”….it fits, everybody likes it, blah blah blah…now down to the serious business.

I think we both agree that the issues are a mix of coaching and execution. I don’t really care to determine the percentage split of blame, and we don’t see all of the details the same way. Yeah, who cares. We can only hope that the CS and team can find a way to overcome the issues they do have.

Methinks the blocking simply won’t get better from an ability standpoint, but maybe it will from an effort standpoint. The coaching…I just don’t know. I really think Smitty has too much of his hands in the offense and needs to back the hell out. Offense is NOT his strength, not his background, not HIS…period.

I don’t know if he’s a control freak or what. Maybe it’s just his learning curve. Whatever it is, it resulted in the exact same starting OL crew, which has yielded mixed results in the passing game and morbid results in the running game. Only injuries have instituted change.

I have a rough time sitting back and looking at teams such as Chicago actually fix their problems. Green Bay hasn’t managed to do that yet, so we’re not the only team with these issues…but…and oddly enough despite their records…how many folks do you figure would trust the Packers to somehow fix their OL issues? How about the Falcons? See….there is a difference.

We’ll stand pat. We’ll add castoffs to the PS or to the back end of the roster if we think we need “depth”, but there is no intention to make personnel changes unless absolutely forced to. I figure Konz would never have sniffed the field as a major contributor if not for the Reynolds injury.

Now Konz is getting worked in games (particularly this last one). McClure is getting worked. Baker, Blalock, and Clabo are playing about average (that would be the high end of things).

It’s never good when your best guys (starters, at least) can only boast three guys as performing somewhat adequately and “somewhat adequately” is the best they can come up with.

This OL needs a star. I have faith that Konz will develop just fine. I even think Holmes, if he can avoid injury, could be good (but have no proof other than dude’s size and attitude). But we better be real smart and real active in the next draft….

Coop

November 30th, 2012
10:01 pm

Big Ray – Thanks brother. Serious respect dude. If you’re in a bar fight, I’m your guy. My last one was in Africa and I took a bottle to the forehead. It hurts a lot more than it looks in the movies.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
10:10 pm

Coop ,

LOL….oh, there are LOTS of things that hurt way more than Hollywood says they do. A bottle to the forehead is a sign of respect. Translation – they want you out of the fight quick so you don’t do the damage they’re afraid you’ll do.

As for bars, I had to quit the “let’s get it on scene” once I first pinned the badge on. That was one of the first things my then Chief told us “young’uns” as he put it. But I have to admit, it used to be some good ol’ fashioned testosterone-ish fun.

Some guys would pick up chairs. They quickly found out that some of us could and would pick up anything not bolted to the floor….

I got you. You got me. It’s all good.

JJ

November 30th, 2012
10:22 pm

Geez, great to see our tax dollars at work!!!

JJ

November 30th, 2012
10:27 pm

Personally, I think somebody owes Unca Bob a very similar apology for falsely accusing him of something we know him not to be. And I find it ironic that such an apology has not been issued, yet offended parties would eagerly climb the cross for the same sorts of things that they’d crucify others for. Oh, irony thick enough to cut with a knife.

WTF are u talkin about???

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
10:29 pm

Coop. Its all good, I know I rub you the wrong way, I have a bad habit of trying to rationalize emotional statements and pick an argument and come off as dickish. I apologize for saying what I said too, it was equally uncalled for.

I do like the football talk here, it is pretty cool when people actually know what they are talking about. I am going to make an effort to just talk about football, say my analysis, and not try to raise the red herrings, and steer clear of the drama, when I think it gets to negative for me, I need to just walk away and not let it get me emotional.

And BR, I assume you are talking about me in regards to UB, there were some back and forth with him. I should not have said what I said about a post under his name, and for that I apologize UB, but I did not post it. I did not steal his name. I don’t know if he did, only he does, but I know I did not.

It was strange, I said the Tampa game was not “big”, on a totally rational level. He called me a name, which I took offense to, especially since I never had much interaction with them. Then, I actually went away for a few days and checked in at the end of the Tampa game and saw the post. It can be con-screwed different ways, but I was mean and what I said was uncalled for, so for that, I do apologize to UB and the cage.

Finally, I understand if it is not accepted, but all I can do is try and live up to what I said I will do going forward.

Anyway, have a good evening everyone.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
10:32 pm

D3, blogmonster.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
10:36 pm

JJ ,

When we beat Tampa, Unca Bob posted “Coooons!”

I think most sensible folks know he was referring to “Falcons.”

He was promptly labeled a racist by one particular blogger and the blogger continued to spout this accusation…and then basically implied (if not outright asked) that D3 address this by banning the person or otherwise doing something about it.

It’s BS. Unca Bob has never come across that way, and I knew exactly what he was referring to. It was a stupid accusation that made no sense if you think about it. I called it out as such. Some folks, man…some folks….

Big Lou

November 30th, 2012
10:36 pm

Big Ray

I think the performance also ties in to the lack of rest between Sunday and Thursday. Both offensive lines were getting worked. It happens. I am more interested in the Giants game to see where we are at.

Coop

November 30th, 2012
10:38 pm

Big Ray – apparently it was a great fight. Unfortunately, I “slept” threw it. Was in Benin and the boys decided to grab a beer. Some local was pushing around a girl pretty fierce. Different countries, different cultures, but I couldn’t let it go. Not speaking the language wasn’t gonna stop me either. That 16 oz. beer bottle certainly did… And I still have the scar. My boys came to the rescue and tore the bar apart. Love those guys and their special green headgear…

Anyway, learned to keep my head on a swivel and duck since then. Dumb, young, Captain.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
10:38 pm

JJ,

I’ll leave you to guess who the accuser was, all you need do is consider my conversation with Coop, then refer to Coop’s apology several posts back, and why he issued it.

I need say no more, I think.

As for your tax dollars….what do you mean? I’ll bet you don’t know who I work for, LOL…or which taxes are paying for it….

Bwahahahahahahahahaha.

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
10:41 pm

Shotgun ,

Agreed, that does have something to do with it. I also agree that we will know more about where the team is against NY.

I think we should rest Samuel, whether he agrees or not. Let him be get back in the last 2-3 games and get a taste just to keep up to speed. We’ll probably (hopefully) rest a LOT of starter in the last game.

JJ

November 30th, 2012
10:45 pm

BR, yes…remember that…have known Unca Bob for over 7 yrs on DOL an then D3s blog.
He is beyond approach/criticism as a falcon fan or welcome my fury!!!! Same as many others but lets first leave my Uncle out of it, nuff said!!!

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
10:46 pm

Coop ,

That’s one of the best reasons to mix it up (and there usually ain’t a lot of good reasons). Good backup is great peace of mind.

Another reason I quit the bar scene for the most part is that I retain the authority to go anywhere off duty (except court of course) with “tools.” At the age of 35 and finding myself rather old in the head….I am continually annoyed by younger folks (very early 20s). I don’t get the whole “show up at the bar/club and mean mug everybody” thing. I just want to enjoy my drink(s), pretend not to notice the eye candy (let’s not piss off the wife, eh?), etc. But they just can’t do that. And some simply will NOT let you walk away…

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
10:47 pm

JJ ,

Right on, bro…

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
10:49 pm

Coop ,

Let me take a moment and thank you for your service. Thanks to ALL of you. I get to deal with borders, but your work goes far beyond them. Thanks again, thanks always.

Big Lou

November 30th, 2012
10:49 pm

“I think we should rest Samuel, whether he agrees or not. Let him be get back in the last 2-3 games and get a taste just to keep up to speed. We’ll probably (hopefully) rest a LOT of starter in the last game.”

They way the back-ups made plays on routes, I say he can take his time. Lol

JJ

November 30th, 2012
10:50 pm

BR, its all good my friend, have too look out for my Unca’Bob!

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
10:50 pm

And now I gotta go…stayed up for the game last night, was up at o’dark thirty for duty, 12 hour day and then workout when I got home…I’m just a little beat…and I know the kids will be up at the crack of freakin’ dawn….LOL

Big Ray

November 30th, 2012
10:51 pm

Shotgun,

True. McClain has shown himself to be a stud, but I was very pleased with how Chris Owens showed up. Methinks Franks is out of a job next season…at least in Flowery Branch…

Coop

November 30th, 2012
10:58 pm

Big Ray – Thanks. It is truly my honor to serve.

JJ

November 30th, 2012
11:00 pm

TRES BIEN COOP!!!

Coop

November 30th, 2012
11:03 pm

JJ – Sad news about FFL. I can’t believe that tie was the nail in my coffin.

JJ

November 30th, 2012
11:14 pm

Sorry my friend, you had a good team before luck fukked it up!

JJ

November 30th, 2012
11:18 pm

Coop, sent you a message but blog monster got it
Anyway, keep ur head up, ffl is 50% luck/injuries as you know to well1!!!

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
11:22 pm

Coop, I addressed you and BRs earlier posts, but apparently is it hung up on the blog monster. But in a nutshell it is all good, I recognize my part in it. Anyway, peace dude, and I too appreciate you serving.

JJ

November 30th, 2012
11:37 pm

out, cya on other side!

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
11:38 pm

JB – not unless I go to Vegas. However, my ex we really a pretty nice woman. that was just a hypothetical! I don’t know what axe MB has against UB. to me, it is up to the coaches to NOTICE Konz is getting mauled and react to protect Ryan – I remember that Eagle game where Baker got pounded – and we never really did adjust much pass protection.

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
11:44 pm

Never gets old watching Mora get punked.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
11:45 pm

they keep saying Samuel has a shoulder contusion – to me, it looks like it keeps popping out of joint. I’d be all for resting him the next 3 games min. we’ll need him in the playoffs. Spoon makes this whole D better. I saw some Robertson and #98 out there – they need to get #98 some pass rush moves!

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
11:49 pm

notice how once Nolan got some tape on NO and their run scheme – even in the 2nd half of the last game – he was able to shut it down fairly well? I was surprised – considering how long and how tired our D must have been – that we were as effective as we were. excellent job.

Paddy O

November 30th, 2012
11:52 pm

f21 – I agree that our pass protection was weak on pocket integrity – but, we could not arrange some more help for Konz?

Matty Bicep

November 30th, 2012
11:59 pm

Somebody said Konz will develop fine, I am apt to agree. Getting turnstiled is part of being a rookie linemen, you just don’t see the moves in college. He has to sit and watch the film with his coach and learn.

I saw where Ryan was sacked 1 time, and hit 6, he seemed like he was under more pressure than that, I guess he just did not have a clean pocket, but he has to learn to slide.

Slant Pattern

December 1st, 2012
12:44 am

In my quest to wring every ounce of Taints tears possible I delved into some titles that weren’t crying/ whining/ farm animal mating tips. It takes awhile to get to the good part and you will wanna vomit for a bit but it is so worth it at the end, quite possibly the funniest ending in history.

( http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/whatever-happened-black-moses-236216/ )

Big Lou

December 1st, 2012
1:56 am

Big Lou

December 1st, 2012
2:10 am

trademark

December 1st, 2012
6:12 am

To: The BALL-less Wonder “professional” blog writer on ajc.com, AKA D-Led
RE: There are OTHER places I can state my opinion without being censored you know….REAL men can take a bit of criticism without being a child.

“OK, since my last one got deleted. Somehow.
I think that the F for Ryan is completely off, it isn’t as if he threw a bunch of interceptions or a pick-6 to give the Saints the win you know? That is deserving of a Fail.
His stats are underwhelming, sure, but a TD and interceptions with over a 50 percent completion percentage? I think that’s below average at worse. C-.
I would LIKE to think he got an F because you hold him to a higher standard, but the comments under it are more in the direction of just finding excuses to bash him. ”

Thanks.

Unca' Bob

December 1st, 2012
8:26 am

Big Ray & JJ,

Thanx for having my back. More importantly, your continued faith in me. I have not seen, nor will I look for, the post or poster. What I will do is assure one and all there was no malintent. Should anyone feel I owe them a personal apology, please come forward and I will be happy to address whatever issues you have.

trademark

December 1st, 2012
8:31 am

Unca’ Bob – Seems to me that this poster is revealing more about his hidden thoughts than anything else…I read your post and thought “Falcons” also. The other crap didn’t enter my head until that poster started spouting off. Tells you something about em.

Wings

December 1st, 2012
8:36 am

Right on Unca’Bob. JJ I saw that deletion and I wondered what you had sad. Makes sense to me.

PlanB

December 1st, 2012
9:30 am

There is too much talent on this offense to get 2 FG’s in the last three qtrs. Especially against a team on the verge of breaking a record of giving up the most yards/game. At the start of the season we liked Nolan but wondered why MS hired an old buddy from a team with the worst offense. Everyone let that go and gave praise since the Falcons were winning. Now we look back and see this explosive offense barely getting by. I don’t know if DK is the problem or whether MS is still trying to run the offense but I want some playoff wins and we will not get it done like we are playing now. There were several good offensive minds that could have been hired and I’m afraid Mr. Blank let MS have his way. I believe MS is insecure and thinks he could be replaced with a good offensive minded coach. I don’t think it has to be that way.
DK’s plays and play calling just looks like more of his Jaguars plays. If DK is the problem, I don’t want to give him 4 years like MM & BVG got. The fans deserve better. Arthur Blank deserves better.

snacktastic

December 1st, 2012
10:43 am

That Falcons win ought to have left a bit of good fortune on the field for the Bulldogs. Damn good football week in ATL.

Arno

December 1st, 2012
10:49 am

SP 12:44 am

very funny— worth the ride

DHunt

December 1st, 2012
11:28 am

Wondered when DLed’s “F” for Matt Ryan would get some attention in here. Yes the line needs to play better. Yes it’s probably time to retire the Mud Duck. Yes the scheme and play calling can be tweaked to get better results from marginal personnel. Yes defenses are bringing A gap pressure and it’s having some effects.

But Thursday’s lack of offense falls squarely on Matt Ryan, with a share of responsibility to dropped passes. Koetter is getting a break this week, because I honestly think he tried to do some things differently, but for some reason the players didn’t respond well.

This won’t show up in the stats, but if you get a chance to watch the game replay, count the number of times Matt Ryan literally puts himself in the way of pressure. He starts out in the shotgun, gets happy feet and skips directly up into pressure. He was indecisive (and thrying to make sure you don’t make a mistake will do that to you) so repeated double clutches, especially on short drops< will tend to allow the pressure to get closer to you. This was not a good game by MR2.

Also, in response to the earlier hullaballoo about the on again, off again run game. The earlier (more successful) runs were quick hitting outside runs, with pulling linemen or designed cutbacks. The later run game seemed to be more Ryan audible calls to the same old straight ahead inside run game that is susceptible to the A-Gap pressure teams are throwing at us. I'm going to need to see the game replay myself to confirm this, but that was my impression at the time.

BobbyDawg

December 1st, 2012
11:31 am

Arno — No arguments — When a running back runs to the edge and is able to turn it up for a considerable gain, do you consider that running between the tackles? I’m lost. I always thought that running between the tackles meant just that. I saw Turner running outside the right tackle on the 2nd play of the game for a 35 yard gain. I read all your blogs and respect your opinion and knowledge of NFL football. He!! let me know. Are we talking about the tackles sitting on the bench or what ? That was a sh!tty remark. OK FALCONS PLAY LIKE ROOSTERS OR PLAY LIKE HENS IT’S UP TO YOU !

DHunt

December 1st, 2012
11:47 am

Falcons still getting no love, but now it’s getting real schizo out there. On the one hand, the Saints game is our biggest win of the year. On the other hand, they are just another of the under .500 cream puff schedule we’ve had this year. People who haven’t paid attention to the fact that this defense has been stout if not stellar, all year, can’t seem to get their minds around the fact that pressure, scheme, and great athleticism caused each and every one of those interceptions. Brees didn’t just “have” a bad game. The Falcons defense handed him his arse, and he may have had a pass or two dropped, but he also got a few of his usual ridiculous miracle throw and catch to make up for it.

And yeah, the Falcons offense didn’t do as well as we expect of them. But we still won, and the game wasn’t as close as it may have seemed. N.O. wasn’t ever really threatening to win, like we did in their house. Some NFL blogger tweeted that the Falcons beat the Saints by 10 and still didn’t scare anyone. Teams who don’t know enough to be scared of us are exactly what we want. It would be wonderful if teams continue to come at us thinking they are coming at the same old Falcons, and getting shocked, shook, and sent home for the holidays.

But, I think teams and coaches out there are scratching their heads and (quietly) asking, “what do you have to do to beat these Falcons”? Their defense can play, and they will take the ball away from you. Just when you think they can’t stop the run, they shut down they run. They don’t make very many mistakes. Even their backup guys play hard. Their passing game is potent, and there’s no way to double all three of their receivers and any one of them can beat you. They can score from anywhere on the field, at any time during the game. If you leave them within one score, you will probably lose, unless you get really lucky like the Saints did, but that was at the Saints house, and the Falcons will likely have dome field advantage throughout the playoffs, and they just don’t lose in that dome. And they haven’t even been playing that well… They haven’t been using that no-huddle Matt Ryan is so good at. They haven’t gone deep a lot, but we know they can. They aren’t using that scat back Rodgers, but whenever they do, he makes a big play.

So how the heLL do you beat those Falcons???

DHunt

December 1st, 2012
11:49 am

D3, Blog Monster is on my back…

Big Lou

December 1st, 2012
11:51 am

Bobby Dawg

He was actually running through the end with fullback help.

Arno

December 1st, 2012
12:03 pm

BobbyDawg– MT and Quizz had seven rushes between the tackles for 95 yards in the opening quarter. 122 of their 126 total rushing yards came between the tackles. I saw that stat at ESPN. Your citing the 35 yards obviously makes ESPN in error. At the time, it stood out to me because I was on board with Big Lou’s comments about abandoning the I and doing more sweeps, more shotgun, etc. I can see how it came across as sh!tty– just wanted to show my surprise! That’s pretty dam funny tho– running between the tackles sitting on the bench.