Atlanta Falcons: Birds Stumble to Ugly Win Over Cardinals

Going for Ugliest Win in NFL History?

111812 ATLANTA: Cardinals cornerback William Gay breaks up a pass to Falcons wide receiver Roddy White in the endzone during 1st half action in the Georgia Dome in Atlanta on Sunday, Nov. 18, 2012.    CURTIS COMPTON / CCOMPTON@AJC.COM

One of Those Days (AJC)

Goodness gracious. This is one of those games that sees the Falcons win a game they shouldn’t even been close. How can a team turn the ball over 6 times and still win a game? Well, the Falcons found a way to do it. A win is a win is a win, but if the Falcons play like they did today it’s going to a bad collapse ready to happen. A look at one of the ugliest wins in NFL history……..

A Win, But…………….

The Falcons once again found a way to win the game, especially at home, but goodness gracious, the idea of winning an NFL game with turning the ball over 6 times is unthinkable. Gone are the days of feeling good about coming back and winning the game. The Falcons put themselves in that position and it was just an ugly display of awfulness for 95% of the game. Matt Ryan threw 5 , yes FIVE, interceptions in one game and somehow won the game. The Falcons better improve in a very quick manner because a their schedule gets infinitely harder in a hurry.  However, the ugliest win in the world is always better than the prettiest loss in history.

Despite All the Bad, they Find a Way to Win……Again

It was one of the worst imaginable games, but the Falcons still somehow found a way to win the game. They are continuing to win the games even though not playing nearly close to their best. Although much in the post may sound negative, the underlying point is that this team keeps finding ways to win and that’s surely helping them in confidence. Watch out if this team ever puts together 60 minutes of their A game.

Ryan’s Collapse Day

111812 ATLANTA: Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan throws an interception to Cardinals cornerback William Gay under pressure by David Carter during 1st half action at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta on Sunday, Nov. 18, 2012. Ryan was intercepted five times during the game.   CURTIS COMPTON / CCOMPTON@AJC.COM

Was This One Picked? (AJC)

Maybe it’s the case that 2 or 3 of the interceptions that Matt Ryan threw weren’t his fault, but good Lord it was a terrible display by the franchise quarterback. It started by his first play from scrimmage that was picked from a tipped pass. Another pass was tipped, but overall this looked like the QB from 2009 that was tentative, worried, and unsure of himself. The lack of running game, rather the insistence of running Michael Turner regardless of the circumstances, likely is taking it’s toll. Ryan found a way to win the game in the end, but everyone’s new favorites Tampa Bay Bucs are ready to celebrate Ryan’s career interception day next Sunday.

Loss Hangover

You can’t call it a trap game when you lose the week before, but the Falcons suffered from an ugly game seeing a team that saw a weaker opponent and played accordingly. The Falcons came out flat, executed poorly, and generally played awful. It wasn’t a deal of coming off a great game that you won and celebrated as such, but rather a game that was awful and you felt just as terrible. It was a tough game to get up for, but the Falcons nearly blew an opportunity to win one at home.

Questionable Play-Calling

Let’s get past the point of starting and running Michael Turner in spite of what actually works, but the play-calling and route combinations were pretty horrid to say the least. It seemed as though once the Falcons started moving the ball with Jacquizz Rodgers and Jason Snelling that a stall flag was raised and Turner was inserted back in the game. Although painfully clear to most Bird Cage members that the new way to dominate on offense is with versatile and responsive running backs, Koetter, Smith and Co. are bound and determined to force Michael Turner regardless of what the circumstances say. Not only that, but there were several times where the WR route combinations were terrible. Several times it was seen receivers and tight ends were running into each other’s zones. There is so much talent to be seen, however it seemingly gets minimized by a somewhat decent defensive coordinator. Better get it fixed or it’s going to be a bad slide to end the season.

To Turner Do Us Part

Falcons running back Michael Turner finds the endzone on a short run for a touchdown and a 23-19 victory over the Cardinals during 2nd half action at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta on Sunday, Nov. 18d, 2012.    CURTIS COMPTON / CCOMPTON@AJC.COM

Turner, Turner, Turner (AJC)

Evidently Mike Smith is attached to Michael Turner and feels that he can’t make success without him. It’s not a smash against Turner himself, but the fact remains that when Jacquizz Rodgers or Jason Snelling are the feature backs (sometimes in at the same time), the offense simply rolls better, that has been the case all the way back to preseason. It appears to many that the offense is at it’s peak when Quizz or Snelling are in the game. Funny enough, when the Falcons offense is rolling and doing great, there is a need to bring Turner back in the game to slow it down and generally make the offense predictable, weak, and not good. If Mike Smith doesn’t adjust accordingly, fans may be looking at 0-4 in the playoffs. This isn’t to say that Turner doesn’t have a place on the offense, but it’s painfully clear that, regardless of what the coaching staff force, he is no longer a feature back and the offense is insanely predictable when he’s in the game.

Anyone Else at Punt Returner

It doesn’t feel good to talk down about any Falcon and Dominique Franks has surely absorbed some criticism, but the simple fact remains that Franks is just not getting it done returning punts. Franks doesn’t fair catch and that leads to terrible starting field position and he looks very timid returning punts. Even when there’s several openings, Franks looks to get tackled as soon as possible and any dynamic ability he showed in the preseason is definitely gone. At what point will the Falcons coaching staff make a change? There’s always Harry Douglas and they brought back Tim Toone and, just like those first down Turner runs, returning punts are becoming wasted plays at best and horrible miscues that lead to awful field position at worst.

Always Ball First

Falcons defensive end John Abraham sacks Cardinals quarterback Ryan Lindley with Kroy Biermann applying pressure during 2nd half action at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta on Sunday, Nov. 18d, 2012.    CURTIS COMPTON / CCOMPTON@AJC.COM

Abe and Kroy Stand Firm (AJC)

This really doesn’t apply to this game since the Cardinals won the toss and elected to defer, but throughout the season, it seems as though the Falcons always get the ball first to open the game. Mike Smith believes in getting the ball first and trying to go down and score to set the tone for the game. That’s all fine and good when you go down and score a touchdown, but more times than not the Falcons are going 3 and out, stalling on drives, and in worst case scenarios, turn the ball over essentially wasting a possession and even helping the opposing team. Most want to get their defense on the field first to see if they can make an early stop, score themselves first, set the tone for the game, and even get the ball back at halftime. Of course you can’t control who wins the toss, but when your defense is outperforming your offense, it may be time to rethink that strategy.

Time to Panic on Run Defense?

The Falcons continue to have major issues stopping the run. Each week the Birds are finding new ways to make rather unheralded running backs look like perennial Pro Bowlers on the ground. To it’s credit, the defense stiffened up when they needed to, but much of that had to do with pitiful quarterback play from the initial starter and then a brand new rookie. It’s a total team failure effort. The defensive tackles are getting blown up, the defensive ends are getting pinched, the linebackers are taking poor angles and getting blocked easily (Akeem Dent looking at you), and the defensive backs are taking poor angles themselves. And many of them are tackling poorly. Fans shudder to think about playing against some of the better running backs in the league and one of the best, rookie Doug Martin, looms in less than a week. Break out those prayer beads.

Offense Has Become Predictable

111812 ATLANTA: ----BABINEAUX TOUCHDOWN-- Falcons defensive end Jonathan Babineaux recovers a Cardinals turnover during 2nd quarter action and runs it into the endzone for a touchdown to cut the Cardinals lead to 13-10 at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta on Sunday, Nov. 18, 2012.    CURTIS COMPTON / CCOMPTON@AJC.COM

Great Play by Babs (AJC)

Attribute it to play-calling, the fact that Turner makes the offense predictable, weak offensive line play, or just poor execution, but the strain is becoming apparent on Matt Ryan and the offense. The Cardinals and other defenses are pinning their ears back and going after Ryan and trying to throw him off his game. It worked pretty well on Sunday. Also throw in those wasted 1st down runs and it’s easy to see the offense getting picked up with ease. Evidently there’s a hesitancy to let Ryan run the no-huddle. To be fair, the offense has been pretty good throughout the year, but as the season starts it’s final drive, the Falcons are showing some eerily similarities to seasons past.

McClain a Future Starter?

Some positive news from the game is the continued excellent play by cornerback Robert McClain. The undrafted free agent is potentially moving out of a role player / nickelback and possibly into a future starter for the Falcons at some point. With their two other corners on the downside of 30 and Brent Grimes coming back from a significant injury (and likely not re-signed), McClain’s good play is a great and needed sign for the future.

Spot on Commentary

We all complain about the media and the game announcers, but Daryl Johnston and his crew was pretty spot on. At one point Johnston said that “if the Falcons play like this against a quality opponent, it’s going to be a different outcome.” Also at some point in the game, Tony Siragusa said the “Falcons were doing everything in their power to keep the Cardinals in the game.”

Minimal Impact from new DE’s

This shouldn’t come as a massive surprise, but Ray Edwards release didn’t lead to any new explosions from any of the other defensive ends Lawrence Sidbury, Cliff Matthews, or Jonathan Massaquoi. It was only one game and Kroy Biermann is still taking the majority of snaps as the new starter, but there’s a hope that one of these guys can show some promise.

Just Another Bad Game or Paper Tigers?

111812 ATLANTA: Falcons cornerback Thomas DeCoud (left) and Drew Davis celebrate a defensive stop against the Cardinals during 2nd half action at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta on Sunday, Nov. 18, 2012.    CURTIS COMPTON / CCOMPTON@AJC.COM

Despite Everything, they're 9-1 (AJC)

Are we the ones who are wrong after all? The Falcons are 9-1 and that’s nothing to sneeze at in the NFL, but it’s getting harder and harder to defend some of the things the Falcons do and they way they play. They blew an enormous opportunity to essentially bury the hated Saints and the Bucs are suddenly right on their heels in the division. They obviously can’t control their schedule and have won 90% of the games they’ve played, but many of what seemed big victories at the time (Chargers, Eagles, etc) aren’t looking nearly as good, lost a huge division game, and have looked downright terrible against some of the league’s worst (Raiders, Panthers, Cardinals). Many in the media have felt the Falcons are paper tigers of sorts, gobbling up weaker opponents and looking generally weak overall. Fact is, fans are having a harder and harder time defending the Birds as of late, but they are tied for the best record in the NFL through 10 games and every team beneath them has their own set of problems and issues. Bottom line is we’ll know everything we need to know in the next 11-12 days. It won’t matter how ugly the wins are if they find a way to pull out W’s against the Bucs and Saints.

Game of the Year to Date

What an enormous game looms for the Falcons. The Falcons travel to Tampa Bay to play one of the hottest teams in the NFL and play one of the biggest games of the season. Considering what’s at stake, it has to be the largest. The Bucs are only 3 games behind the Falcons and winning here would put the Birds in a great position for the division, giving them a 4 game lead with 5 games to go. However, if the Falcons lose, the door swings wide open once again putting the Bucs only two games behind the Falcons and some difficult games coming up (Saints, Giants, @ Lions). If the Falcons can go down and win any way possible, fans will get some sense of comfort back. If the Birds go blow one on the road, as they did in New Orleans, it’s a whole new ballgame.

Bird Cage Faithful’s Turn

1) Simple Run Stuff – your thoughts on the Falcons ugly, ugly win?

2) What in goodness name happened to Matt Ryan?

3) What’s your confidence level right now?

4) Did the Falcons suffer from a “loss hangover” or did they just play down to their competition?

5) What’s going on with the play-calling on offense?

6) Will the coaches stick with Turner regardless of the realities on the ground?

7) What is the deal with punt returner?

8.) Does it annoy you that the Falcons always get the ball first?

9) Time to hit the panic button on run defense? Why so bad?

10) Why has the offense become so predictable?

11) Is Robert McClain a potential future starter?

12) Are the Falcons paper tigers after all?

13) How big is the Bucs game on Sunday?

1,276 comments Add your comment

D3

November 19th, 2012
10:04 am

Once again, sorry for lack of new post guys and gals. The post is completed, but having major computer issues. Will get the new post up as soon as I get the problems fixed. Until then, discuss the ugliness that was.

Be back soon.

snacktastic

November 19th, 2012
10:10 am

I’m not sure I even want to discuss it. But thanks for the post anyway.

Actually, I will say one thing:

We have two huge games coming up next week–TWO–against teams that are primed to exploit the weaknesses we’ve done little to correct. The coaches and players are well aware that something needs to be done, and the next two games will show how committed they are to doing it.

These ugly wins have gotten old. Get it fixed, Birds.

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
10:12 am

Arno

November 19th, 2012
10:21 am

Questionable coaching IMO to play Julio, aggravating that ankle. Douglas did fine with 5 of 6 receiving.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
10:26 am

Interesting that Ryan was only sacked once and had only 5 QB hits. He seemed like he was under more duress than that….But it appeared the Cards really saw the weakness and attached that A gap.

Anyone have an opinion if we looked a little stronger up the middle once Hawley went in? Not sure how coaching got a good grade, other than is was so bad and we won, it was genius.

But really, the play that set the tone was first of the game where Roddy pick. Guys are going to have to pull it together. That’s for sure.

PoolerSpirit

November 19th, 2012
10:28 am

Just a sign of how far we’ve come… Nobody’s mentioned that we should be celebrating a winning season… before Thanksgiving… everyone’s grumbling about the win rather than being happy we’ve got another guaranteed winning season…

LRD

November 19th, 2012
10:31 am

U G L Y we aint got no alibi.. we ugly.. yep yep, we ugly!!

That being said.. McClaine should get a game ball for his performance yesterday. one of the best acquisitions we made pre season. Granted the AZ QB play was not good, but the kid led in tackles and was flying all over the field.

I am very happy to come out of the dome 9-1.,., but Tampa is going to run roughshod over our D line. Are we going to be able to stop Martin? We need Spoon back for this game…. And worried that we will be so concerned to stop Martin , that we will Freeman to drop some bombs on us.

Win is a win…. and have not heard the boo birds like I did yesterday in a long time…

snacktastic

November 19th, 2012
10:37 am

LRD: For an elementary school rhyme, that’s disturbingly appropriate.

DHunt

November 19th, 2012
10:42 am

Yeah that A+ threw me too, as well as the C for the run game.

I can certainly understand a bit of doubt creeping into Falcons mania. But IMHO, the Falcons still have a far better offense than Chicago, Houston, or San Francisco, and can keep up offensively with Green Bay, New England, Denver, and New Orleans. the Falcons also have a reasonably good defense. It can’t be called bend but don’t break anymore; it’s more like get gashed and survive the wound.

I still trust this team to win games. The cage complained about the “media” obsession with the o-fer playoff record, now it seems like some in here think that we have to win in the playoffs tomorrow, playing like we did yesterday, assuming any opponent will be playing like the three Super Bowl teams who put those playoff losses on us over the past few years. When you say it like that, it really doesn’t make much sense, does it?

Only elite franchises can boast of 5 consecutive winning seasons in the NFL. WE know the Falcons can win when they don’t play their best football on offense or on defense. We know they have teh potential and capacity to play at a much higher level than they displayed yesterday. I fully expect at least 3 more wins this year, and we have a good chance of winning out the stretch. Because this team wins football games, when other teams would get beat. This team was literally one yard away from still being undefeated. This isn’t the same team that lost those last playoff games, and they can’t wait to prove that to the world. Until then, all the genius clairvoyants will be happy predicting their ultimate demise.

LRD

November 19th, 2012
10:46 am

Well as others have said.. but again.. can we imagine what this team would be like IF we played our best for 4 qrtrs> The adjective would be UNSTOPPABLE.. we have the talent, we have the win at all costs attitude, and I for once think we have the coach staff …
We have yet to play a complete game from the entire team.

Besides… you know this is all part of TD’s evil genius right.. play real crappy allowing the hopes of our division to rise.. and then we go to Tampa and smack them around… and that is the warm up for when we bring out game to the Dome and slap the sAINTS around for 4 whole qrtrs. Ruining once and for all their hopes of making it into the play offs… see the cardinal game was all part of the plan

Section 242

November 19th, 2012
10:48 am

I prefer an ugly win to a “moral victory” in a loss.

ynot

November 19th, 2012
10:53 am

Sure it was an ugly win, but did anyone think we were ever going to lose the game? I sure didn’t. Even on bad days; good teams win.

D3

November 19th, 2012
10:59 am

Hey Gang. About to throw my computer through the window (no I didn’t do it during the Falcons game). Will get the new post up somehow.

Wanted to restate what JJ said last night. We’ve had 4 really good wins and 5 mediocre and crappy ones. Yes, style points don’t matter, but for goodness sake, how much longer can we defend these crappy performances? I know many of you will jump on me, but Smittyball is in full effect. The deal with Turner will cost us soon if we keep this garbage up. Even your standard non-fan can tell this is holding us back and now its affecting Ryan and his confidence.

I refuse to called negative because all this is simple realism. This teams not very good lately…..period. Better get it fixed or we could see an ugly 6 game collapse on the horizon.

Zoomie

November 19th, 2012
11:02 am

Something is going on behind the scenes with this team. I mean, they are playing really tight. They say the team chemistry is good and the locker room is strong, but they’re not playing like it.

To me, there’s no sense in even commenting on the execution from Sunday’s game. Everyone sucked equally and looked like they’d rather be somewhere else doing something else.

Mark my words: there’s a fracture somewhere, whether it’s in the locker room, between the staff and players, between the staff and FO, I don’t know; but, there’s a problem somewhere behind the scenes. This team is just playing too tight . . .

DJ Sniper

November 19th, 2012
11:06 am

D3, do you think that Smitty is having more input than usual in the play calling? There are some times when it seems like we go back to being more conservative than we were earlier in the season.

And for God’s sake, please play Quizz and Snelling more often, because Turner just does not cut it anymore. The man just does not have any sort of burst when he carries the ball.

Wngs

November 19th, 2012
11:10 am

The only thing I can determine about the grade for coaching is DLED asked HC Mike Smith what he would grade the coaching and he said A+.

I came to that conlusion because absolute nothing has been done to correct the things on offense for two years, and HC Mike Smith must be in denial with what is wrong. That is the only plausible reason I can come up with.

That was a horrible game to watch yesterday. I hope AB realizes the games this year have been very unpleasant and his BRAND is being damaged every week.

Do any of you remember after the Washington game there was talk about improving the run game and then in the Oakland game, Matt Ryan has three interceptions. What is the coaching staff doing that stymies the OL in pass blocking and Matt Ryan after the tinkering to improve the run game?

D3 I was absolutely sure you might be speechless and find it impossible to create an article after that abomonation of a football game.

Wngs

November 19th, 2012
11:14 am

D3, in fact my anticipation to read your next blog is much stronger than my anticipation to see the next Falcons’ game.

D3

November 19th, 2012
11:18 am

Zoomie — good point. Leads to the point SW always talks about a “disconnect.” I don’t think itd anything other than Smith and his hyper-conservatism. JMHO

Coop

November 19th, 2012
11:37 am

Zoomie – Concur. I said last week that Edward’s release smacked of a fracture. Of course, I was scoffed at by some, but sh!t like that doesn’t just happen. According the the Glazer story, Edwards caused a scene after the loss and wouldn’t join the team. Did it in front of TD, AB, and the entire team. Say waht you want about RE (I agree it’s a boneheaded move), but you gotta be pretty pissed with the CS to be that disloyal. I sense that players are frustrated with the conservative style they are forced to play on both sides of the ball. I think they don’t believe their own talents are ing fully utilized. I fear Smitty is losing his locker room.

Finally, did you see the look on Turner’s face when he scored yesterday? No celebration, no jumping around, no… smile. He looked pissed and not in a good way. He looked like someone angry to playing for his own team and angry at the fans who’ve been calling him out.

If we lose in the playoffs, the players might have an all out revolt.

LRD

November 19th, 2012
11:40 am

Coop.. turner had to hear all the boo’s yesterday on his first few carries.. I mean it was just a few here or there, the dome was echoeing with boo’s…

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
11:48 am

You know, if I was MT7 and CS, I would be pissed too. I can see them winning a SB and saying EFFF YOU.

Really, they catch more crap BY THEIR OWN FANS. Who cares what the media says, but when you are trying your best, busting your tail and WINNING GAMES, and your local “fan” blog master is saying :

“Better get it fixed or we could see an ugly 6 game collapse on the horizon”.

Hell, I don’t blame the Falcons for being pissed. I would not want to play for this town…. there is a ‘disconnect. Fans in this town don’t deserve a winner.

Coop

November 19th, 2012
11:57 am

And Pollyanna throws the first “nonfan” flag…

Troll

Wngs

November 19th, 2012
11:59 am

MB keep quite!!! They are not pissed at any of us or D3.

Your time in the spotlight needs to be over.

Wngs

November 19th, 2012
12:00 pm

MB, I for one want you to go to another blog. I am never responding to any post of yours again, and maybe all of the other cagers will do the same.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
12:05 pm

Gotta admit – Smitty Ball might be aggravating, but at least we don’t have a HC who yanks his starting QB while UP 13-0. Whisenhunt did us a fantastic favor. Defense played quite well – only 2 BIG problems were those gigantic runs – DeCoud again looks pretty unsafe. Dent again made some nice plays. I agree – using JJ on a screen pass with a high probability of getting tackled and re-injure the ankle was pretty dumb – he should have just been used as a decoy – and if he gets behind the D, heave it to him. NFL rules must be joking – you can’t challenge certain plays – and if you do, you get penalized for it and the penalty precludes a turnover from being reviewed? WTF?? the Cards saw something on tape about being able to deflect Ryan passes – 2 of them actually bounced off a guys body part – head or shoulder – not from being swatted by upraised hands. absolutely dreadful day by MR2 – but to take a win is pretty remarkable. Our first series was horrendous – Turner is NOT a receiver. We did a better job of switching our RB’s.

Arno

November 19th, 2012
12:09 pm

Coaching seems to be on everybody’s mind, thus looking at the ugly game as a coaching problem. Now speculation about the locker room. The Glazer story said it was PLAYERS who couldn’t get RE to the meeting. Shouldn’t we be looking at the worst game of MR2s career– from high school through college till now??

A few thoughts on MR2: The first pass to Roddy was behind him, like the last throw of the NO game. Three other INTs were tips from guys getting up in his throwing lanes. Maybe our O-line should do some tipping drills??

A long-standing question I have about Matt is his deceptiveness (or lack of it). Particularly on play-action. His body language is completely different on a true hand-off and on a fake. On a true hand-off, Matt does not survey the field, he leans over and projects himself toward the RB. On a fake, Matt starts his reads, stays bolt upright, and does a quick jerking action to the RB. Never fools me. On one bizarre play yesterday I thought I saw Quizz actually run past Matt before the fake! Could have been the camera angle. This lack of deceptiveness is something that gets Ds in our backfield a little bit too quickly. I had to wonder if Lofton gave NO good tips on reading Matt.

The INT that Washington58 snagged was on a MR rollout where Matt stared down his receiver the whole way.

Hey– I’m a MR fan. Thing is, people are saying this team is only going as far as Matt will take it. Maybe that belief is messing with his head. IMO, it DOES mess with his deceptiveness. A better job of it will help keep his lanes open and give our RBs a half second longer. Can’t help but notice how much better Brady is at all this.

D3

November 19th, 2012
12:12 pm

MB — Wow my friend. Do you really think that was appropriate? Its great to be 9-1, but goodness sake, do you not see major problems with this team? If they play like that vs. good teams they will lose……period.

Coop — All I know is that was one of the ugliest games I’ve ever seen. Sure hope he’s not losing the locker room. If that’s true about RE, they did the right thing in cutting him out.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
12:30 pm

Ryan has a horrendous game. I don’t know what the problem is with him throwing behind guys – that has never been a problem before. Bad coaching making Ryan regress? I’ll agree with others – McClain did a heck up a job – any injury reports on our guys? JJ? Asante? MB – must really be arthur blanks mommy – MB – mommy blank !

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
12:41 pm

Do we feel we are support this team? Fans booing a 9-1 team? I get the feeling there are those would rather this team lose out, fire everyone and start over.

I agree, if MR2 throws 5 picks in all the rest of our games, if Roddy yips the ball up into the D on our first play of every game, we will lose out. I don’t think that needs to be said.

It is pretty apparent, for CS to get this done. he is pretty much going to have to prove everyone, even his most ardent fans, wrong, so he stands alone. This teams problems seem to be emotional, they are getting tight, and when you have fans highly critical of every play call regardless of the outcome, is exasperates the problem. We have problems well beyond scheme.

Sorry to offend you, but Somebodys got to say it.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
12:46 pm

Why don’t anyone talk about Dent? Guy was making tackles behind the line.

Wings

November 19th, 2012
12:47 pm

I learned a long time ago that an apology doesn’t always negate the deed.

Greg Mendel

November 19th, 2012
12:54 pm

Before I type another word, I want to give a Thanksgiving-sized THANKS! to D3. This blog is excellent. Good writing, reporting, and analysis — good enough to attract and encourage the thoughtful, civil comments and conversation found here. I’ve spent many years writing for a living, and it ain’t as easy as it looks. Damn good job, D3! Thanks, again.

Several Cagers are fond of stats and numbers (and better at them than me), but I’m going to toss out some numbers I found. As the season progressed, it seemed the final score of every game (except Atl vs. SD) was relatively close. I have no idea if it means a thing, but it made me curious. Here are the numbers: 7.125, 9.0, 8.5 and -4. I think/hope they’re accurate.

7.125 points average victory margin in 8 wins (excludes SD game)
9 points average victory margin in 9 wins (includes SD game)
8.5 average final score margin over past 10 games (9 wins, 1 loss)

With one exception (SD), we’ve neither blown anybody out nor been blown out. On average, games have been decided by little more than one touchdown. Makes no difference whether opponents were expected to be “tough” or “easy” If anything, the numbers may suggest the Falcons could take a swan dive, or muddle through to the Super Bowl.

Regarding the rest of the season, I don’t have a prediction, but I have a guess. I figure we lose one to Tampa, one to somebody else, and win the rest, including New Orleans in the Dome.

Slant Pattern

November 19th, 2012
1:05 pm

“Can’t help but notice how much better Brady is at all this.” – Arno

I have been watching NFL am today and was noticing how other offenses look compared to ours. We did the dink and dunk thing off the bat to simulate a run game/ off-set the blitz etc. which clearly was a gameplan decision. The style routes the Pats and other offenses use do a much better job of getting their receivers in space and creating throwing lanes. M. Ryan will get all the blame from certain types which I won’t even bother to argue, but those looking at things without an agenda can see we have issues with Koetter’s play design and routes. Using a 5′4 RB like Quizz in crossing patterns 3 yards or so from the LOS is of course gonna cause a QB (any QB ) problems with trajectory and throwing lanes. I haven’t and won’t go back and watch that crappy game but after watching other teams highlights it is clear to me Koetter has some common sense tweaks and adjustments to make. M. Ryan might as well have had 2-3 interceptions by using an agressive more diwnfield playcalling philosphy then that dink/dunk conservative ish we saw yesterday but at least they would have been earned INT’s. Considering R. White fell asleep and let a perfect dep sideline pass go by his head it is not out of the easy realms of believability that we could have had 3-4 TD passes to offset an INT or 2.
We did not use the no huddle to change tempos and gas the Cards D, we did not adjust to use the Shotgun formation to counteract the Cards getting good pressure and lane disruption, and we rarely used riposte screens instead opting to use countless bubble screens. Blame whoever you want, let the “Radio’s” of the world give A+ grades to coaching…some of us see other things.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
1:09 pm

I learned a long time ago that an apology doesn’t always negate the deed.

I was not apologizing for any deed, I’m sorry for those offended, but it had to be said.

There is fracture in this locker room, because the people who built this team, the team who brought this team up from the ashes, Baker, Clabo, Turner, Ryan, Abe, Smitty, are under fire, and except for Ryan, it has been suggested that we would be better off putting unproven rookies in, that any schlep off the street can do a better job.

These guys have done a lot, they should get the opportunity finish the drill.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
1:12 pm

let the “Radio’s” of the world give A+ grades to coaching

LOL, and I am accused of being mean? But yea, the A+ was befuddling. Good line.

DHunt

November 19th, 2012
1:25 pm

Got to say I agree with MB in one regard. It doesn’t make much sense to boo a 9-1 team. I’m not questioning anyone’s “fan” credentials. You can be a fan and be disappointed in the teams play. Hell, the team is disappointed in the way they played (particularly on offense). You can be righteously and rightfully disturbed about lack of a competent offensive run game, and continuing to get gashed in by the run on defense. I don’t think anyone with eyes is trying to pretend like everything’s just fine and dandy, especially in those two areas. It’s fair to say maybe they aren’t playing up to their potential, and certainly not playing up to fan expectations. But there is a harshness being displayed towards the home team that is sometimes hard to fathom.

It’s almost like some people want to get out in front of a potential loss (whether in regular season or playoffs) so you can say, “I knew it all the time. I never thought they were any good. I was the one who say that this team was fatally flawed from day one.” If the Falcons put up 150 yards rushing and hold the other team to 50 yards rushing, AND LOSE THE GAME, it seems from many of the comments from fans that would be preferable to finding a way to win.

There also seems to be a bit of an agenda in the caustic critique. Some folks have had it in for MT33 for quite a while. Some folks have an irrational dislike of CMS. That is apparent when all the ills of the team play is lumped on those two shoulders. In contrast, some folks have a puppy crush on MR2, and despite several lackluster performances this year, he has yet to receive much criticism and nobody dare boo him for fear of being labeled a Vick-ophant.

Go ahead and predict that the Falcons will lose, because they played a few games that were less than stellar. Just be man enough to admit you were wrong when they win. Don’t chalk it up to luck, or the fact that the other team gave it away. The ball bounced Arizona’s way all day yesterday, but the Falcons still found a way to win. The defense gave up 120 yards to a 3rd string back in the first half, and then held that same back to 20 yards in the 2nd half. You can find plenty of things to criticize (and every team trailing the Falcons in the standings has it’s own set of issues as well), but if you don’t also give credit where it is due, then perhaps you aren’t being the kind of fan that a 9-1 Conference Leading team deserves.

SG

November 19th, 2012
1:32 pm

Hopefully, we’ll look back and be glad we got this bizarre game out of the way before the critical home stretch and the playoffs.

Zoomie

November 19th, 2012
1:37 pm

Somehow, I’m just not buying that the Falcons’ obvious issues are caused by the players reading D3’s blogs and getting their feelings hurt because the fans are critical of the glaring deficiencies instead of reveling in their 9-1 record. That somehow, if we all just wished it hard enough, that the Tinker Bell-Turner would just sputter back to life and we’d go all the way to New Orleans in February.

Of all the possibilities of why the Falcons are struggling to run the ball, getting gashed by the run, failing to execute at a level we see in other teams, and live on the edge in winning games, the above theory is the one to which I apply the least credence.

I mean, if wanting them to be great, wishing them to be great, is all it took, they would’ve beat the Taints 69-2 (the 2 pts being a MR2 end-zone kneel-down, out of simple pity), with Brees, Graham, and Lofton being sidelined for emotional problems (being too scared to play), because, after all, that’s what I WANTED to happen; that’s what I WISHED would happen.

Maybe instead of the Falcons red jersey, I should be wearing Ruby Red Slippers (There’s no place like the Super Bowl! There’s no place like the Super Bowl! There’s no place like the Super Bowl!) . . .

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
1:40 pm

well said D. Remember, I am not saying we should not analyze and criticize, but it needs to be kept in perspective, and contrasted with other teams, and we should equally seek out the bright spots in our analysis.

How about Dent? What was our thought on Hawley’s play? And you are right about Ryan, he put up a stinker, he will be the first to admit it.

snacktastic

November 19th, 2012
1:40 pm

ynot has a point. Despite such a weak performance by the Birds, I did not think we were going to lose. I figured we’d hit our stride and score just enough points to win, and indeed there was a late, well-executed scoring drive that put us ahead. I guess that’s a bright spot: I’m not confident that our team is going to put together four quarters of awesome football, but I am confident that they’ll win. More confident than last season, anyway.

Put on a showing like that against almost any other team in the league, and that confidence will start to dwindle.

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
1:43 pm

Well, as the usual cage optimist, I would say that at least we had a travesty on offense against Arizona. Any other team would have been a blow out, no questions asked. Yet, give credit to the defense for doing their job most of the game. The one touchdown the cardinals scored only required 9 yards.

As far as fans booing Micheal Turner, I feel they weren’t booing him per se, more on the lack of explosiveness on the play. The boos only came when he gained no yardage, or lost a yard… which was always on the offensive line.

Let me do a positive sandwich routine(like I do with my employees) to describe the game–with more meat and less bread it seems.

I was impressed by the fortitude of our defense. Yes, the Cardinals have the worst offense in the league, but they wouldn’t have scored any points if it weren’t for the great field position given to them by offensive turnovers and special team gaffs. They gave the Falcons a chance to win.

Yet, the defense on the run was still subpar, usually because of poor gap discipline, getting of the block. The tackling was much better this game. Got to give Kudos to our secondary for stepping up, even with Asante injured the whole game. I wonder how serious it is…

Offense had nothing going for it, except Quizz/Tony–even Snelling had a stupid turnover. Everyone else made stupid mistakes or ran poor routes(HD slacks–two games in a row he’s ran poor routes). Matt Ryan’s preformance is not a trend, so I am not worried. It just seems he was trying too hard(the competitor in him). Shame on the coaching staff to not call more screen passes/outside routes to counter the blitz/linemen knockdowns. One thing I’m confident in is that Matt will bounce back–feel sorry for TB, really.

JJ is the key to our offense. Without him, it is quite anemic. We need to have plays for our backups. We need more creativity from our coaching staff.

Offensive line did decently on the pass protection, except from that complete gaff by the right gaurd on one play that lead to an INT. I don’t even want to talk about the run game. The TD Turner made in the end zone was all because of Cox–Oline’s push was still horrid.

All that being said, the Falcons are still 9-1 and have time to fix these glaring issues. Matt will bounce back and we will be getting Spoon back for the TB game(missed him).

Yet, the real question is: will the coaching staff(offensively) adjust? I see Mike Nolan do it all the time on defense, and the offense needs to follow suit. Time will tell, and with the schedule coming up… the Falcons have nowhere to hide.

dbird1

November 19th, 2012
1:44 pm

Section 242, i agree completly. even as ugly as it was, i had complete confidence we would win the game. this is the first year i have felt that even when we play our worst, we still have a chance. never felt that with Malarky and Van Gorder at the helm. i cringed most the game, but really, how many times can the ball get tipped and land in the lap of the defense. Ice needs to forget this one fast and move on to Tampa. 9-1 still feels pretty sweet. lots of time to get our roll on!

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
1:45 pm

Somehow, I’m just not buying that the Falcons’ obvious issues are caused by the players reading D3’s blogs and getting their feelings hurt because the fans are critical of the glaring deficiencies instead of reveling in their 9-1 record. That somehow, if we all just wished it hard enough, that the Tinker Bell-Turner would just sputter back to life and we’d go all the way to New Orleans in February.

agreed, but the general fan tone, the national media tone, is putting tons of pressure on this team. If I wanted to hear the falcons suck and will choke, hell, I will just watch sport center.

We are 9-1 and ready to throw in the towel, using a game were we used to lose, a game where we used to be Arizona as “proof” that we are doomed.

Naa,, I am gonna ride this pony, and I will stand tall to all the I told ya so’s if I am wrong. I have come too far to quit now.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
1:48 pm

it is like the Dawgs, I let people convince me that we will never get it done under Richt, but here we are, much closer than anyone ever thought they would get.

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
1:51 pm

MB

Hawley only played one down for Mudd Duck. He was taped and put right back in.

As far as Dent, he did his job, but I’ll be more excited when he makes plays like those on a stronger offensive unit. Let’s see how the TB goes.

As for your fan comment, I will just ignore it. There has only been one championship won in the state of Georgia. It’s about time fans started expecting more from their franchises. Trading playoff woes for a regular season champion is like breeding sub-par expectations in the state of ATL.

No more. AB would agree. Heads will roll. That’s why he’s a good owner.

LKW

November 19th, 2012
1:57 pm

The gam against the Cardianl should only be strong evidence that Matt Ryan is not the quarterback needed to win chanpionships. This game was so poorly played that it makes your head hurt. It really gets my jaws tight when I hear him say we made mistakes and we need to improve. He needs to take responsibility and put the blame where it belongs – on top of his shoulders. He needs to improve, he made the mistakes and he needs to practice and strudy and learn the play book. My 8 year old daughter can throw a better ball than Ryan. Need I go on ??????

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
2:06 pm

Did not realize Hawley only played one series, just saw him get flagged for off sides, a center off side? WTF? I am not even sure how that works.

Dent made some plays behind the line, so that was positive…..Abe gave a clinic of what happens to rookie LTs when they are’nt ready.

And if this is Smittys last chance, the I even applaud him more. If you gonna go down, go down doing in your way. That is my philosophy.

LRD

November 19th, 2012
2:10 pm

I will give kudos to Dent, but we really need to give up for McClain. Wiht Grimes out, and with Asante out here and there, etc.. McClain has really stepped up, and seems to this fan, to be thriving in our D. Grimes is going to have to either find a new team, take a pay cut, or if he sticks, he will be fighting for a starting job.

As far as booing. yeah, I bood turner, and I boo’d the stupid calls they made. Heck, when we saw turner lined up we all saw what was going to happen. And we also screamed our approval when we also saw Franks actually return a ball instead of fair catching everything.

To my ears, and again, I am a bit up in the stadium, but the dome was loud yesterday. I saw only 3 cardinal fans between the marta, the tailgating and in the stadium itself.
I see more falcon swag in the last 3 wks than I have in the last 4 yrs.
Blaming anyting on the fan base is ridiculous. I pay good money for my tickets, and I can scream, yell, boo, jump and down all I want.
And they are call Professional Players for a reason…

That being said… my prediction for this year was 10-6 and play offs… so I am thus far more than happy with this season.Again, we have the talent, we have the coaching staff, we have the fans behind the team, and I for once actually think this is our year.. I honestly believe, not just convincing myslef since I am a fan, but BELIEVE we can go to the big game this year.

Oh, and a team that is mad, at the fans.. I love that. I want them to be mad at us.. why, as this should be a motivator to win the games, and prove they are worth us worrying about them so much.

LRD

November 19th, 2012
2:11 pm

D3.. for thanksgiving.. kill the blog monster, as it is killing me.

LRD

November 19th, 2012
2:13 pm

HAHA.. Ryan is not the QB for this team. Laughable, just laughable. Name another QB that can throw 300yds, AND 5 INTS and still lead a winning drive down the field??? ( jeopardy theme in background while waiting for the response…)

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
2:18 pm

LRD, when the moment I “knew” we were going to win this game was after Ryan threw the pick at the 2 mark in the 1st half, and moved the ball down the field for a FG with 30 seconds left.

Actually I know Ryan has done an incredible job because there has yet to be a call for Donnie Davis, lol.

Wabe

November 19th, 2012
2:21 pm

Once again, letting your team hear your dissatisfaction doesn’t make you a non-fan.

The Falcons have had the same issues. Talking and voicing your displeasure about those issues doesn’t make you a non-fan.

Pointing out that this team has the potential to lose 6 straight doesn’t make you a non-fan.

We’re not the f’n cheerleaders in here doing the ‘rah rah Falcons will win’. We’re simply pointing out the problems. We’ve been at it for a minute now, and the same problems keep poppin up in games.

Last week, Chris Ivory busts a big run to the right.
This week, a carbon copy of a run by Larod-Stephens Howling to the same side.
Even earlier in the season, in that Denver Bronco game, we saw him break a couple runs [more than once] to the same side.
Alfred Morris killed us on the tosses to the edges.

It ain’t getting fixed or any better. Making it known how it’s p1ssing you off don’t make you any less of a fan.

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
2:26 pm

As always, Wabe has great insights.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
2:29 pm

Wabe 2:21, Amen brother!

D3

November 19th, 2012
2:35 pm

Alright Cage, post is finally up. Hit this link or simply refresh and head to top and read………..

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-fans/2012/11/19/atlanta-falcons-birds-stumble-to-ugly-win-over-cardinals/

Thanks for all your patience.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
2:38 pm

I said, and I quote:

Hell, I don’t blame the Falcons for being pissed. I would not want to play for this town…. there is a ‘disconnect. Fans in this town don’t deserve a winner.

I never said someone is NOT a fan, so lets get that straight.

Sure, we can talk CONSTRUCTIVELY about issues.

But when the fans are booing a 9-1 team because of HOW we are winning, I start to question how our fans behavior effects the emotional state of our team.

Really, would you like to play for a team where you were 9-1, leading the division, booed at your home games?

Also note, I did NOT call out any fans in the cage, other than using a quote from D3 (whom I respect) but if the shoe fits…..

Coop

November 19th, 2012
2:40 pm

DHunt – for not wanting to question fan credntials, ou certainly set out on several paragraphs of just that.

“It doesn’t make much sense to boo a 9-1 team.” The booing I heard was when the team was 8-1 and down 13-0 to an inferior team. The booing was watching this immensel talented team fail with their stale approach.

“It’s fair to say maybe they aren’t playing up to their potential, and certainly not playing up to fan expectations” Maybe not living up to potential??? It’s unfathomable that there is consideration that MAYBE they aren’t playing up to potential.

“It’s almost like some people want to get out in front of a potential loss (whether in regular season or playoffs) so you can say, “I knew it all the time. I never thought they were any good. I was the one who say that this team was fatally flawed from day one.” If the Falcons put up 150 yards rushing and hold the other team to 50 yards rushing, AND LOSE THE GAME, it seems from many of the comments from fans that would be preferable to finding a way to win.” Now, this is simply garbage. Not a single poster has siad they hop for a loss. So this entire paragrpah smacks of accusations that those who critique actually pull for a loss and therefore are non-fans. This paragraph lacks logic and is simply caustic.

“Go ahead and predict that the Falcons will lose, because they played a few games that were less than stellar. Just be man enough to admit you were wrong when they win. Don’t chalk it up to luck, or the fact that the other team gave it away.” I have, do, and will predict that if we continue to play this way and the way we played laster year in similar games, we WILL lose. The only way we play like yesterday in the playoffs and win is if the other team has a bigger meltdown. As for admitting I was wrong, I was the first to praise Smitty after Denver, SD, Philly, and other early games. I really thought he had changed his team. These last two weeks were unmitigated Smittyball and I likewise hold him accountable.

“You can find plenty of things to criticize (and every team trailing the Falcons in the standings has it’s own set of issues as well), but if you don’t also give credit where it is due, then perhaps you aren’t being the kind of fan that a 9-1 Conference Leading team deserves.” Right, no one gives credit. We aren’t true fans. My word, between you and Mother Blank, it might as well be Red China. Say NOTHING against the regime. Any criticsm is non-loyalty…

LRD

November 19th, 2012
2:48 pm

Wabe: To your point, I need to go back and revisit to be 100% sure.. but the big runs were to our D left and to Jerry… and on 2 out of the 3 big runs to the left yesterday, our man Jerry was our tackle at the moment… again, I will go back and look at the tape, but it jumped out to me and my father in law yesterday, that when they went to run, and when Jerry was in the game..where did they go? I need to confirm that on the “tape”…
And if you dont think Tampa saw that? And the fact Spoon wasnt in there to boot…..

D3

November 19th, 2012
2:51 pm

Where to begin…………

Greg, Wings, & Others — Thanks for the shoutout. I really do appreciate it. I went to bed feeling so crappy about not getting a new post up and knowing that the expiration would come and no one would get to post. It’s amazing how much we take computers and internet for granted. If this wasn’t such an awesome blog made up such superb, intelligent, and respectful Falcons fans, it wouldn’t have bothered me that much. I know it sounds like a copout, but it’s the truth.

Zoomie / MB / “Players Getting Mad” — I don’t buy that crap either. Our criticism is cupcakes compared to the what the northeastern teams get in terms of sports writers and fans. They are way more brutal than me. Have you heard the questions these guys get? Puh-lease. It might as well be “what’s your favorite color?” Even if they do get teed off, tough sh!t homie, you get paid millions of dollars to play a kid’s game (I have no intention of getting into a libertarian political debate, but my point is, they are paid very well). Finally, one of the players came out to my wife’s school and obviously she is a huge Falcons fan and asked him if he’d ever heard of The Bird Cage…….the answer was NO! I just don’t believe these guys read all this stuff like we think they do. I would have booed those plays too if I were there. It’s not directed at Turner, per se, but just at the ridiculous, predictability, and failure that comes from it. Ask yourselves this question, how many of the top scoring offenses would Turner get that many carries in?

Coop

November 19th, 2012
2:54 pm

Mother Blank – I’m with Wings. I wish you’d just shut the hell up. You have no grasp of having a logical discussion. You’re hypocritical as well. Nobody booed a 9-1 team while they were winning. they booed an 8-1 team that was playing like crap. Those offering realistic crtiques ARE having constructive discussions. Your pollyanna, unicorns and ferry dust routine adds ZERO.

BTW, Hawley played one snap and wasn’t flagged for false start. That was McClure who was flagged for a false start. Dent was fair to below average. He had 3 tackles and one assist. He was also WAY out of position on the first long run to the right side. He’s JAG (Just a Guy). Aarrrgh! If you are going to be such an oxygen thief, try to at least watch the d@mn game!

D3

November 19th, 2012
3:00 pm

LRD — I almost positive you’re correct. Jerry is quickly becoming the weak link on our DL. Despite all our hopes that he would miraculously turn it around, he’s becoming what we all have feared and known for a long time…………..a 1st round bust and quite possibly TD’s biggest black eye. That’s why I’m all with Coop & falcon21, it’s time to build from the inside out on defense. Get a big ol’ boy DT as an anchor for the next 8-10 years, pair him with Peters, Walker, Babs, and Robertson and watch our DE’s and LB’s suddenly start to shine.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
3:08 pm

Coop, feel free to ignore me, don’t read my posts. Also, if we lose, I will stand tall, but if we win, I have no interest in celebrating with you.

Please do not try and say that you knew they could do it, it is obvious that you do not think can can. We know where each other stand.

And I was at the game yesterday, it is hard to know how is in and out of the game without announces and such. I did know Dent made a play of two behind the line. No need to be so nasty and just generally hateful.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
3:23 pm

Ask yourselves this question, how many of the top scoring offenses would Turner get that many carries in?

Good question, but the Giants won a Superbowl last year, they we not a high scoring offense. Actually, they were a running team that experienced a lot of the same issues and criticism that we are facing, but were even worse…..

Also, you notice how those Arizona rookie tackles fared against the Predator?

Wabe

November 19th, 2012
3:31 pm

I’d have to double check that too LRD. I could’ve sworn those runs were towards Biermann and the right of that line.

Maybe the camera angles just got me. I’ll double check at some point.

Zoomie

November 19th, 2012
3:33 pm

“What in goodness name happened to Matt Ryan?”

He’s off. He’s been off for a few weeks. He’s not getting a good lead on the receivers, and it’s turning into a disaster on the slants and drags.

I got vilified here for this last year, but here goes: I think he still carries around a very bad habit from his college days. He needs to see a receiver open before he passes. He doesn’t consistently anticipate well, and it goes against his grain to just throw to a single-covered receiver and let the receiver do his thing. He really hasn’t shown himself to be a consistently accurate passer.

After running an offense for a few years where nearly every route was some sort of possession route (hooks, outs, etc.), maybe he just hasn’t adjusted to hitting a moving target yet. He seems to do well as long as the offense is in a good rhythm, but when the intensity is turned up (defensive pressure), he seems to hesitate, or flinch.

I wasn’t all that concerned after MR2’s first stinker, but that’s two horrific games he’s QB’d this year. We’re probably not at the “WTF!” stage yet, but we’re at least into the “Hmmm; this bears watching” area.

Wabe

November 19th, 2012
3:33 pm

When I say right, I mean running towards the RT and RG [from an offenses perspective].

But, nonetheless, I’ll check again.

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
3:34 pm

Coop

Just ignore it.

I totally agree that Dent did just ‘okay’, and you’re right about the long run play. I put more blame on the Safety on that one, though. He wasn’t even in the picture until the big play. Too much clowning, not enough discipline.

And yes, MB, the false start was on Mudd Duck cause he misjudged Matt Ryan’s audible for a queue to give him the ball.

Zoomie

November 19th, 2012
3:37 pm

“Did the Falcons suffer from a “loss hangover” or did they just play down to their competition?”

My guess is neither. I think we’re seeing the fallout from behind-the-scenes changes being made. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but the Falcons just didn’t seem to have their heads in the game. I go back to my previous post: I’m convinced there’s something happening that’s having an emotional impact on the team.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
3:40 pm

With ya Zoom, in the end, we will live an die by him. It is interesting, New Orleans, Green Bay, the Pats, they are all rounding into shape and are gonna be tough outs from here on. The QBs are doing what great QBs do. Ryan has shown promise, but it is up to him.

Zoomie

November 19th, 2012
3:45 pm

“What’s going on with the play-calling on offense? Will the coaches stick with Turner regardless of the realities on the ground?”

I noticed an attempt to get MT33 moving. On at least two plays, they tried to move him to the outside to find a crease. The problem with this approach is, it requires a RB who can cut on a dime to hit a crease when it appears. MT33 does not have that cutting ability.

I think they’re desperately trying to get the running game going, but just haven’t hit on the right combination yet.

Here’s my suggestion: more Snelling, Quizz, and Antone Smith. Flow the line right and left and let these cutters hit the creases. Later in the game, when the defense is tired and loosened up from all the passing, screening, stretching, and sweeping, open up a can of Turner whoop-azz up the middle with power blocking.

Honestly, from a personnel and effectivity standpoint, I believe this is how the Falcons are set up to play . . .

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
3:45 pm

Zoomie

Matt Ryan wasn’t off against the Cowboys and Saints. Yeah, he missed a couple passes, but every QB does. The difference is that the receivers also misjudge throws and drop easy passes, which also screws up the rythm, as well. Roddy screwed up on two pass plays yesterday, too. One that could have been a TD and another that lead to an INT.

Matt has had a stellar year up to this game, hence the MVP talk. Also, I feel he has good vision overall and has put the ball where receivers need to be. This issue with this game is the horrible pass blocking, which didn’t allow open passing lanes.

The difference between Matt this year, from years past is that he is decisive in his decision-making and has lead this offense to victories, instead of riding Turner.

If anything, I think it’s the mental toughness of the Falcons as a whole. It seems that when they put too much pressure on themselves, they make stupid mistakes, don’t execute, create penalties.

Remember, Matt has only had two bad games this year. So have the rest of the ‘elite’ QBs. Let’s wait till the playoffs till we start questioning the Ice Man this year.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
3:52 pm

I’m convinced there’s something happening that’s having an emotional impact on the team.

Agree here too, Smitty reminds me of Tom Coughlin, who used to get a lot of the same smack. The knock was he did not know how to loosen up, how to chill. Smitty is at the crossroads, and he has 6 games to figure it all out.

I really think this started when Smitty blew a gasket when we had the penalty in the New Orleans pick. Right after that our D melted down and lost composure. I am hoping the penalty he got on himself helps him relate and he can lighten up. Smitty expect his men to be men, but he I agree that he has to get them to loosen up.

D3

November 19th, 2012
3:53 pm

BL — good points earlier. Well done including positive and negatives. I’m guilty of not accentuating the positive enough.

This is a very honest question to the entire Cage: what is the coaching staffs obsession with Turner? I’m being totally serious here because I just don’t get it. The facts on the ground are just so obvious even to the lay fan. When Quizz and Snelling are in the game, the offense flows so much better. When Turner is in the game it grinds to a halt. Its as though they are intent on cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Zoomie

November 19th, 2012
3:55 pm

“Time to hit the panic button on run defense? Why so bad?”

I don’t think so. First, they’ll get Spoon back and that will help shore things up. Second, adjustments are being made during the games that are effective in slowing down the other team’s run game. Third, all that rushing from the other teams just don’t seem to be translating into points. I’m not too worried about this.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
3:57 pm

News that is not worth reporting! I’ve been wondering what happened to JPW and just read that MM has him on his practice squad.
Now back to you Chet!

Arno

November 19th, 2012
3:58 pm

“Ryan found a way to win the game in the end, but everyone’s new favorites Tampa Bay Bucs are ready to celebrate Ryan’s career interception day next Sunday.” Everyone’s new favorites were 4-6 last year at this point– are 6-4 now. Everyone’s old whipping boys were 6-4 last year and are 9-1 now. Bucs are justifiably fired up with their success but the Falcons have more reason to be. As the professor says, “Bottom line is we’ll know everything we need to know in the next 11-12 days.”

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
4:03 pm

13) How big is the Bucs game on Sunday?

Not huge, the NO and Giants, and maybe the 2nd TB games loom larger. It is feel good game, not a must have.

I think our litmus test is week 15.

Zoomie

November 19th, 2012
4:04 pm

“Are the Falcons paper tigers after all?”

I don’t think so. They’re young tigers that haven’t yet perfected the art of the hunt. Yeah, one of those wildebeasts got away, and a few more of them made the team look foolish, but it’s all being chalked up to experience, and at some point it will all click. Then, this tiger will be one of the most-feared in the plains.

Either that, or they’ll continue to just barely trip up the easy prey, and they’ll go hungry once again when the annual migration is over . . .

Kee Kee

November 19th, 2012
4:04 pm

DIRTYBIRDROCK.BLOGSPOT.COM is also a great source for Falcons info.

“D-LED” Turned me on to it….

Zoomie

November 19th, 2012
4:12 pm

“How big is the Bucs game on Sunday?”

This is where we’ll find out what the Falcons have in defense. The Bucs are clicking right now, especially in their run game. I like the Falcons’ chances if they can take Martin out of the game and make Freeman try to beat them with his arm. Freeman’s track record is NOT GOOD when the Bucs lean on him to win the game.

I think some of the other RBs the Falcons have faced have been a bit of a surprise. Atlanta won’t be surprised by Tampa’s run game, and I think they’ll get their yards, but won’t get the points..

The offensive and defensive performance of this upcoming game can go a long way toward calming some of the angst in Falcons’ fandom.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 19th, 2012
4:29 pm

BREAKING NEWS: Joe Hawley will be suspended the next 4 games for violating the leagues performance enhancement policy.

Hawley got caught! Didn’t notice any difference in Hawley…Proves enhancers are overrate. Well, at least in Hawleys case.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
4:31 pm

DaveD

November 19th, 2012
4:34 pm

Could you say goodness one more time? The falcons trouble is due to a soft coach. They don’t have a killer instinct because he doesn’t have one. They are not going to be better than average on D..but they should have enough talent to follow the saints model of super bowel win. I would also say to all of the people who are freaking out a bit….I’m right there with you but it’s worth keeping in mind that we are one yard from unbeaten.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
4:43 pm

Mr. Pollyanna Schizo has added a new title to himself: strawman. tolerate his schtick as best you can. Most can ID this type of BS from a mile away.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
4:45 pm

know what fans boo more than any other? NY Yankees – and that is the most successful franchise in pro sports. IF players/coaches fail to deliver, you boo to register your disappointment. Turner is about done here in ATL.

Slant Pattern

November 19th, 2012
4:51 pm

“DOL has posted that Hawley has been suspended for four games? Hmmm.” – JB Falcon

Who was saying the players don’t read this blog lol. Good for Hawley…he might have a future yet.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
4:52 pm

Coop: mommy blank is more pointed. you know the mothers, interviewed after their boy has been arrested driving a stolen car with a bludgeoned body in the back seat; “but he has always been such a good boy”. selah. what is a bronx cheer?

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
4:53 pm

hawley got caught using adderal – is that a sterroid?

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
4:55 pm

I do wonder what ryans misplaced passes are caused by? sore knee? Oh, yeah – Falcon KGB is BSing us all on the severity of Spoons injury.

Arno

November 19th, 2012
4:58 pm

More than you want to know from WIKI:

In the National Football League, New Orleans Saints kicker Garrett Hartley served a four-game suspension when the 2009 NFL regular season began because he tested positive for the banned stimulant. The Arizona Cardinals tight end Ben Patrick received a four-game suspension as a result of using Adderall.[49]
The New York Giants running back Andre Brown (American football) faced a four-game suspension for violating NFL’s performance-enhancing substance ban. Brown said: “It was something that I’ve been on since I’ve been in the league, which was Adderall. I just forgot to fill out some paperwork and that was it.” [50] Brown eventually won an appeal, and had his suspension lifted.[51] Another Giants player, Tyler Sash, was suspended for four games by the NFL in July 2012 after testing positive for Adderall four months earlier. The safety said in a statement that he took the drug legally and “under a doctor’s care for an anxiety condition” to help him with public speaking.[52] The New York Giants safety Will Hill (American football) was charged a four-game suspension for violating NFL’s performance-enhancing substance ban. Hill said: “”I received a doctor’s prescription for Adderall prior to signing with the Giants” [53] Tampa Bay Buccaneers cornerback Aqib Talib has been suspended four games by the NFL for violating the league’s policy on performance enhancing substances. Talib released a statement saying his suspension was a result of testing positive for Adderall: “Around the beginning of training camp, I made a mistake by taking an Adderall pill without a prescription,”.[

D3

November 19th, 2012
5:04 pm

Dave — Fair enough. Didn’t realize I said it that many times until I re-read it. I used goodness instead of the curse words I really wanted to use.

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
5:06 pm

Paddy O

I agree on the KGB comment. Low ankle sprain taking 4 weeks to heal? Either the recovery trainers sucks, or they are holding out.

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
5:13 pm

D3

I know it’s hard for us fans to be objective due to our emotions, but I feel you do a good job with the articles. That’s why I look forward to them every week.

Tuner obsession is due to the whole square pig–round hole routine. Instead of making a scheme that caters to player’s strength(Mike Nolan), they try to use the Oline in a way that isn’t productive. This team is built more for the shotgun run, then power I. Also, it’s built for sweep plays, which is useless for Turner. So, pretty much we got a Turner run scheme that the Oline is not built for.

Coaches need to reivaluate the run-block scheme completely. Once the Falcons figure out the run, they will be near impossible to stop. You know, since effective running leads to more effective passing and all.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 19th, 2012
5:19 pm

I really like what I’ve seen out of Quizz the last couple of weeks. IMO, not the featured back of the future, but definitely a complement to the offense. Only thing that concerns me with him, is the juking, gyrating…doing the running man before he gets going. Don’t get me wrong, I truly enjoy when he stops on a dime (brake ankles) but he’s scared me the last couple weeks with this other stuff. I’ve been on the edge of my seat when he’s thrown a pass, with the first down in the balance…a defender clearly 5-8 yards away from him…and he starts his shenanigans. Running backs coach, IMO, should sit shorty down, tell’em knock it off.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
5:49 pm

I am with ya on Quizz Somebody. There is a time to juke, and a time to make positive yardage. When you are about to get caught from behind, you don’t stop, go head and keep going, get hit, fall forward, especially if you are anywhere near a 1st down.

Nor do you ever ever turn around and run backwards a la Barry Sanders, he did that one time, and I almost spit my beer out. I think he ran backwards 10 yards and netted 1.

I am also concerned that he is going to drop the ball, but so far it is unfounded…..Although I was non too pleased to see Snelling put it on the ground.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
5:52 pm

Adderall is ADD medicine, it is more a stimulant. I guess it jacks you up so you work out harder.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
5:53 pm

I referred to this team this way about week 4 – I don’t know if Smitty Ball is apt anymore – we have the weapons – but, Smitty’s Jekyll and Hyde Team does seem appropriate for the 2012 Falcons – who know which team is going to show up? And yes, it appears teams have decided the best way to disrupt MR2 is to blitz and push the middle of our O line – so, with our weak tackles, the pocket is pretty easily collapsed – and, they don’t really need to blitz to the outside – Carolina showed folks how to do it. But, I wonder why Denver’s pass rush was so weak? WE MUST pass block effectively to win. But, MR2 played to poorly, the rest of the bad is secondary.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
5:54 pm

Somebody, Quizz isn’t built no where near the size to run over and through tacklers. He has always ran like he does. He is quick, tough as nails and does not fumble as a rule. He set all kind of records at Oregon and I know this isn’t college ball. He could use a little top end speed and I love watching him. If and when the FO learns more about how to use him he will only be a better asset to the team.
I played what we used to call half-back a hundred years ago and I surely ain’t built for football. Smaller players have to use every ability they have to make up for their size. That and my better half (5′ 3″) loves Quizz. If he didn’t juke, etc. he would get splattered every time. Not disagreeing with your post at all but just offering a different take on the subject. Notice you don’t see a “Big” in front of JB.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
5:57 pm

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
5:58 pm

It is not secret that you must attack the middle of our line. I was surprised that MR2 only got hit 5 times, seemed like a lot more than that.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
6:03 pm

JB, I am with ya on Quizz, just if he is short of a 1st down by 2 yards with an open field in front, don’t stop. Or, sure has ##11 don’t turn and run backwards. It is Barry Sanders style, but he does not have that 4.3 speed like BS.

There is a time to juke, and there is a time to take what is there. That’s all.

Any as I said, my fumble concerns are unfounded, it is just when you stop like that, it is scary.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
6:03 pm

yeah – i read up on it – it is a combination of 4 stimulants – in baseball in the 70’s they were on greenies – essentially an amphetamine cocktail. if he had no prescription, he was most likely violating the law. he need them to stay asleep in Mike Smith team conferences?

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 19th, 2012
6:07 pm

Yeah, I suppose JB. Guess Quizz needs an edge to level the playing field.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
6:08 pm

matty – that is the odd aspect – perhaps Konz / McClure / Blalock was holding up well? I did not think QB pressure caused his bad play – BUT, it is possible that badly distributed routes – such as screens too close to the line of scrimmage caused low trajectory passes – but, as indicated – those passes were hitting jumping line men in the head or shoulder – very, very low. I wonder if MR2 has a vision problem? but again, just last week he played lights out – so, to me this is an aberration. the throw to Tony G was plain poor, and the toss picked off by the linebacker was just pitiful judgement. We had 2 throws to Turner which he dropped. The throw to Snelling which got popped out – and which appeared to show the guy who threw the ball back in with his toe on the line – was a nice play. Snelling can be a very effective guy for us. Cox seemed to play adequately. I hope JJ is not seriously hurt.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
6:09 pm

any stat geeks know – how many plays did the octopus, massaquo and sid get? I don’t think I ever spotted one of them.

Paddy O

November 19th, 2012
6:10 pm

sadly, we are seriously missing weems – who would be more valuable on the roster – Franks or Weems, at this point?

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
6:12 pm

El Sid did not play a down….can’t find any stats on the other guys. Franks does look pretty bad, stiff as a board.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
6:14 pm

D3, Great article, think a certain fan is obviously a troll and only interested in starting attacks against us cagers. I agree with Wings and believe he should be BANNED!
We have allot of cagers not posting anymore and I believe he is the cause. He can go to numerous other blogs to attack other fans but this place is special…at least it was.

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
6:18 pm

Regardless of the causes, it appears that the Cards had a good defensive game plan and used their off week wisely.

I wonder if they saw our route design on tape and saw that we could be exploited by trying to throw in the gaps. I doubt if we did anything much different. But a tipped pass does no end in a pick every time ether.

That first play just set a tone.

Birdman

November 19th, 2012
6:31 pm

Birdman

November 19th, 2012
6:45 pm

Good Evning Cage

I hope and pray everyone has had a Blessed day.
Not a good show Sunday for our Birds.They looked flat and reel bad against a team that should have been hung out to dry . If this team is who they should be at 8 & 1 now 9 .Any good team like the Saints would have beat the tar out of the Falcons. So they had better fix it up for next week are they are looking at 9 & 3 .Just plain and simple truth

Glad for the won but it was gave to them. If anything at all saved them it was the D.

GO FALCONS !!! FIX IT !!!

God Bless Ya’ll

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
6:47 pm

Matty Bicep ,

well said D. Remember, I am not saying we should not analyze and criticize, but it needs to be kept in perspective, and contrasted with other teams, and we should equally seek out the bright spots in our analysis.

You do not make the rules. Your opinion is not fact. Your idea of what is analysis and what is “booing the team” is your interpretation, and nothing more. Same goes for anyone else. And folks would be sheep if they all just followed what you had to say, now wouldn’t they?

If I wanted to hear the falcons suck and will choke, hell, I will just watch sport center.

Then go. Nobody is stopping you, though some of us did welcome you. Beginning to wonder if that was a mistake or not.

We are 9-1 and ready to throw in the towel, using a game were we used to lose, a game where we used to be Arizona as “proof” that we are doomed.

Says who? If other fans should not get their collective undergarments in a wad because of a loss or even an ugly win, then you should not get yours in a wad over fan comments that you don’t like. Sauce for the goose…sauce for the gander…

Naa,, I am gonna ride this pony, and I will stand tall to all the I told ya so’s if I am wrong. I have come too far to quit now.

Climb down off the cross, you’re not Jesus Christ and we could use the wood for something else…..

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
6:49 pm

For the record….

Hawley whiffed on his block the only play he was in the game. Not a sample size worth judging, but I can tell you real quick…if Ryan hadn’t seen it and gotten rid of the ball quickly…well, that’s one of those plays where your QB can get injured.

As for Dent, he made two tackles for losses. Not bad at all, even if his total tally of 4 tackles was nothing worth writing home about.

Wings

November 19th, 2012
6:51 pm

JJ thanks for the support. He needs to leave. You are right about the other posters. Coop thanks for yours earlier.

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
6:51 pm

Coop, feel free to ignore me, don’t read my posts. Also, if we lose, I will stand tall, but if we win, I have no interest in celebrating with you.

Please do not try and say that you knew they could do it, it is obvious that you do not think can can. We know where each other stand.

Oh my…..really?

You graduated at the top of your drama class, didn’t you?

:twisted:

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
6:52 pm

Big Ray

Lol

I need to fix the broken leg on my table. ;)

Wings

November 19th, 2012
6:54 pm

Big Ray that is better than the wedding story.

Ken Strickland

November 19th, 2012
6:56 pm

Sorry I couldn’t comment any sooner CAGERS, but my computers been down. That was an ugly and tense win, but it was a win. There’s both good and bad in most everything, and there was some good in this gm other than the win itself. After the very successful 2010 season we got everyone’s attention, and they prepared themselves for what we were doing so successfully as a result.

In 2011 we couldn’t overcome those adjustments or changes because our coaching staff either wouldn’t or couldn’t adjust to the adjustments other teams were making, and we didn[t have a very good season. This season we’re having most of the same issues we had last yr, like an inability to run the ball, inconsistent OL play, but poor run DEF as opposed to poor pass DEF, and an inadequate pass rush.

The biggest difference in the 2 seasons is we’re STILL ABLE TO WIN because our coaching staff is able to make changes and adjustments during gms that allows us to do what needs to be done to win. There’s absolutely no way on earth we’d be 9-1 under VanGorder and Mularkey. We’ve definitely got to upgrade our DL in the upcoming draft. Our OL upgrades are already on the roster.

After 10gms, there’s very little chance of us resolving our OL or DL issues because Smitty’s not going to make a change at either OT position.

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
6:59 pm

Coop ,

Oxygen thief? Oxygen Thief!

I thought I was the only one who used that….

Wings

November 19th, 2012
6:59 pm

Ken S are you doing okay. I noticed this weekend you had not posted lately. I was thinking you were in the RV out west. Your perspective is appreciated.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
7:00 pm

JJ, my grand daddy once told me an old Cherokee Indian tale about any member of the tribe who broke a tribal law. The tribal rule was that the violator was not to be spoken to or his presence acknowledged in any way. The guilty member always left.
Anyway, banned is a harsh word, and believe me, I’m not disagreeing with your post in any way, but I sometimes have to ask myself in making daily decisions, “Am I looking at both sides of this?”
On one hand I can see a person who is disabled, mad at the world because of it, with an abusive attitude and using the internet and various sources on the internet to get a feeling of belonging. Obviously a knowledgeable Falcon fan who has few friends because of his attitude.
One the other hand I can see an unemployed person receiving a dole from our taxes with a lot of time on his hands who indeed gets his jollies off by starting crap on good blogs just to see how long he can keep it up until he gets banned. Could also be a business owner who lets other people do his work!
Reading the entire blog daily one can’t help but see patterns of when people are probably at work, etc. by the time of the day they usually post. This makes both of the above scenerios possible.
Now, we all know that an attitude adjustment will work wonders since this suggestion has been make many times here in the cage. In either of the cases above, what if alledged culprit thinks everyone but he is wrong and strongly believes his attitude is warranted because everyone else is an uninformed idiot? Okay, I think too much!
Can’t wait for the Bucs game!

JJ

November 19th, 2012
7:03 pm

Crapapple Joe under new screen name?
Just in case, your boy brookings will never, NEVER get in the ring of honor!!!
Cause he has no honor after dancing on the cowgirks sideline!!!

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
7:05 pm

I agree MB can be annoying at times, but you can’t ban somebody for stating an opinion. He’s not insulting anyone by using harsh language or anything. He isn’t breaking conduct.

I mean, I bump heads with people in here, too, yet I don’t see the ban parade out for me.

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
7:06 pm

Big Ray

Technically us big guys are all oxygen thieves. Especially after we walk a long flight of stairs.

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
7:08 pm

Big Lou ,

LOL.

Wings ,

You know I’m a clown….

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
7:10 pm

JJ ,

Nah. CAJ had specific issues. And while MB might be a dedicated contrarian and pathological button pusher…he doesn’t seem at all to have those kinds of issues.

Besides…CAJ was a forever pessimist…quite the opposite of MB….In fact I’d say that to even suggest that one is the other is to insult MB…not that he doesn’t keep begging for it….

Ya darn oxygen thief!!!!!

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
7:13 pm

JB Falcon ,

Very well spoken, sir. Us thirty-somethings often have neither the wisdom nor the patience, I’m afraid.

That, and I sometimes cut loose on here because if I did it at work…well, my officers would do it too and we’d all be violating people’s constitutional rights. One thing leads to another….and I ain’t having none of that.

falcon21

November 19th, 2012
7:19 pm

Big Ray, CAJ once called me a racist because I didn’t like KB as a player. I’m still trying to figure that one out.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
7:22 pm

Whatever happened to Crabapple anyway? Big Ray, you know that 40 cal is for your job only!!

falcon21

November 19th, 2012
7:27 pm

JB, I believe it was the “ban” word.

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
7:27 pm

Falcon 21 ,

Dude is blind with racial rage…there was no other explanation. I’ve come across his type before. Just a sick person. Blind. And his shot at you was a shot in the dark….

JB ,

I’m kind of a .45 man, myself…but .40 is what we’re issued and I’m proficient with all of the common service calibers.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
7:37 pm

Big Lou, your right but his post today against D3 just broke the final straw. He will blog a dozen positive post then jab us and then go back like nothing happend. I even backd him a few weeks ago then stayed off the blogs and reread ALL of his posts for the last several weeks. I was wrong, not the first or last, but something is wrong when a new cage member is throwing all of us cagers under the bus and then saying whats up cagers. I wrongly put you 2 together,my bad.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
7:40 pm

Anyway, no big deal, no way a troll will get me off my fav falcon blog!

falcon21

November 19th, 2012
7:42 pm

Big Ray, I like my 38 special, good shooting gun. I bought my son a 45 and he loves it. Anyway, I’m back to the Falcons . Sorry Cagers!

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
7:45 pm

JJ, Coop, Wings, 21, Big Ray, Paddy O, and that’s just the ones that come to mind. You know sumpin’ ain’t right when we all see the same thing.

Coop

November 19th, 2012
7:46 pm

Cage – Ban him or don’t, but ain’t talking to him anymore. He doesn’t respect others and isn’t tolerant of other opinions. Worse though, he’s and obtuse, hypocritical, bore. I’m done with it.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
7:48 pm

21, BR, I think a saw a .50 cal Desert Eagle and that thing looked like something out of star wars! Do they make one of those or was I having a bad day?

JJ

November 19th, 2012
7:49 pm

BL, He has insulted us cagers many, many times if you go back and read. But your right,ban for opinions is not what the cage is about. In between the aints loss (still pissed) and yesterdays follies (still pissed), Im not biting my tounge at his antics like I usually do. Ill try harder…not!

falcon21

November 19th, 2012
7:52 pm

I don’t know JB.

falcon21

November 19th, 2012
7:59 pm

Just looked it up JB, that is a bad looking gun.

Wings

November 19th, 2012
8:00 pm

JJ you are right. His insults regarding D3 made me madder than I was yesterday with the football game and I was really mad.

He just does not understand that we will defend D3 above anything else.

JB some good stuff from you.

Unca' Bob

November 19th, 2012
8:04 pm

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
4:03 pm
13) How big is the Bucs game on Sunday?

Not huge, the NO and Giants, and maybe the 2nd TB games loom larger. It is feel good game, not a must have.

You are an absolute idiot. Please understand D3, I am being as respectful as I can possibly be. Some deserve no respect. Myself included.

DaveD

November 19th, 2012
8:05 pm

To reference back to my earlier post…I’m not saying Mike Smith is a bad coach. However our team routinely plays down to the level of our competition. And routinely takes its foot off the gas when they have a lead in the second half. It’s pretty frustrating to watch. I have been a falcons fan for a long time and I’m thrilled to have a team worth watching. But if we go into the playoffs with the same casual attitude

falcon21

November 19th, 2012
8:06 pm

Wings, I hope you have a better feel for our next game because you were dead right yesterday!

DaveD

November 19th, 2012
8:06 pm

To reference back to my earlier post…I’m not saying Mike Smith is a bad coach. However our team routinely plays down to the level of our competition. And routinely takes its foot off the gas when they have a lead in the second half. It’s pretty frustrating to watch. I have been a falcons fan for a long time and I’m thrilled to have a team worth watching. But if we go into the playoffs with the same casual attitude we had had all season it will be a short stay. Again.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
8:07 pm

OK back to regular prog…we are the worst 9-1 team in nfl history, IMO. But Ill take it!
Roddy stated that the team didnt think they had to bring their A game against Ariz AND thats why I blame the coaches and especially Coach Smith. Thats your main job to get the guys ready for each game.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
8:07 pm

Okay, I got another scenerio, an accident victim with no legs and only one arm left which he exercises all day long, hence the name? Nah, I don’t even believe that myself.
I always run my posts by my better half since she is Falcon fan #2 in this house and she said not to post this, but, I’m not really right in the head myself.

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
8:08 pm

JB ,

Yep. Desert Eagle .50 AE (Action Express).

Quite heavy for a handgun, very impractical, and fun for a while just to say you have one. After that, you’re wondering how else you might have spent that $1,300.

That’s the only reason why I’ve never bought one.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
8:09 pm

A+,no man, how but F’s all around except Nolan gets a C+/B- for halftime adjustments.

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
8:13 pm

The other thing about the Desert Eagle .50 is that it likes to spit it’s spent shells directly back at your face and neck. Those things are HOT when they come out.

Recoil is more than the .44 mag version but substantially less than the Smith and Wesson .500 magnum, .454 Casull, and the .460…the last two of which I’ve owned and shot extensively.

As far as magnum level rounds go, I’m sticking with .44 and .357…ammo is a LOT cheaper (.50 AE is $2-$3 per round…if you’re lucky), more plentiful (even wally world carries it) and sufficient for most applications.

And now…back to my other passion…football. Who got me off track?

:lol:

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
8:17 pm

I’m kinda like Big Lou .

I’m not into banning folks…and I’m sure D3 is quite well aware and wary of the slippery slope that is censorship.

That said….

If you attack him, you’re gonna tote a whoopin’…

Release the hounds!

Wait….was that what I was supposed to say?

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
8:19 pm

DaveD, no problem in the cage with your posts.

JJ, Roddy has a loud mouth but he ususally tells it like it is. If the FO goes into the next game with the same attitude they will leave with different one.

D3

November 19th, 2012
8:19 pm

What’s up boys?

Ol’ CAJ finally got the hint and left. No ban needed. He did come back as Midtown something for awhile and left again.

Worried about Julio. That was a stupid decision to play him, IMO.

Think Dent is getting better, surely good enough to replace Lofton. He got torched on that long run, though.

Are HD and Gonzalez mutually exclusive, b/c it seems that HD is non-existent in this new offense. Either that or HD just isn’t nearly good as we all thought.

Finally saw what SP has been talking about RE: the route combinations. Some of them were pitiful. I remember several times seeing receivers running right in each others areas.

Too bad Kevin Cones been hurt, he’s really missing a chance. And despite that TD from Drew Davis, he’s been M.I.A. since.

Still going with 1) DT, 2) RB, 3) LB is my draft order. Hard to see it changing much to be honest. Would also like to see DE Michael Johnson in Falcons red and black via free agency.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
8:19 pm

DaveD, agree and thats been a common complaint here in the cage for many yrs. If it happens this yr, would love Nolan but AB will never do it.

Geo

November 19th, 2012
8:25 pm

MB: Nor do you ever ever turn around and run backwards a la Barry Sanders, he did that one time, and I almost spit my beer out. I think he ran backwards 10 yards and netted 1.

Gotta defend Quizz here. The dude has made big plays all year, with limited opportunities. Helped seal a few close ones. And the play you are talking about MB, he would have been tackled for a loss. He made a yard out of a blown up play. That’s what a good RB does.

D3

November 19th, 2012
8:25 pm

Hey guys, its all good. I appreciate it, but I take most things with a grain of salt.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
8:29 pm

Geo, welcome to the Quizz crew!

Coop

November 19th, 2012
8:32 pm

D3 – Thanks for being so magnanimous. However, this place means something to a lot of us. I don’t like cockroaches in my home.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
8:33 pm

D3, its all good…cant believe your about to pull coop down to the cellar with you, lol.

Arno

November 19th, 2012
8:33 pm

D3: “Worried about Julio. That was a stupid decision to play him, IMO.”

Single biggest blunder of the game. Worse than MR2 picks.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
8:35 pm

D3 is playing against coop in ffl…for 1st place…in next yrs draft ;)

Coop

November 19th, 2012
8:35 pm

JJ – I am in FFL hell.

Coop

November 19th, 2012
8:36 pm

I blame the Assassin’s front office and coaching staff…

falcon21

November 19th, 2012
8:36 pm

I would like to see more of Antoine Smith on the field other than on ST’s. He always looks good in preseason only to never be seen again in the back field. He may have had a few plays this season but not many.

Geo

November 19th, 2012
8:37 pm

Thanks, JB. Do we have t-shirts? :)

JJ

November 19th, 2012
8:39 pm

Coop, injuries and luck…have killed your team this yr, same thing happend to me 2 yrs ago. At least you cant blame it on drafting like D3!!!

JJ

November 19th, 2012
8:40 pm

Just love giving him shiit sometimes, lol.

D3

November 19th, 2012
8:43 pm

I just can’t for the life of me figure out this deal with Turner. My family members and I try and come up with many different reasons to understand why there’s this obsession with plowing Michael Turner in the game when he clearly does not produce. I knew this would be a problem when we brought him back. Here’s the different possibilities we’ve come up with…..

1) Turner is Mike Smith’s ball control crutch that he refuses to give up

2) They are scared of pissing him off, remember the (their offense, their team) comments?

3) They are going overboard in giving him respect and praise for what he’s done for our franchise

4) Smith is delusional and one of the most stubborn @ss men in the world

5) They feel like Quizz and Snelling can’t handle the load

6) It’s as Big Lou said and just simply that they can’t come to grips with the way the offense “should be” as opposed to the way it “has been.”

7) Mike Malarkey’s ghost haunts the coordinators box and takes over Koetter’s play-calling on gamedays.

In all seriousness, I just don’t get it. I know I’m very biased to this discussion because I said I’d be perfectly OK parting with Turner this past off-season and rolling with Quizz, Snelling, and A-Smith in the backfield. But really, it’s like night and day when Turner’s in the backfield and when either Quizz or Snelling are in, and that goes all the way back to preseason.

As a matter of fact, check these two items out from the first preseason game back on August 11th……….

Are Turner’s Days Numbered?
No, but he definitely didn’t seem to fit as well in the new offensive approach as Jacquizz Rodgers does. That’s probably way over-simplifying it and it was only one preseason game, but Rodgers looked excellent and Turner not so much. Turner only got five carries, so it’s not really fair to judge him on that performance alone, but if Rodgers continues to look like he did on Thursday night, it’s going to be harder and harder to keep him off the field.

How’s that quote go, “the more things change……………………..”

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
8:43 pm

Geo, yeah, but they are too small to fit!

Coop

November 19th, 2012
8:43 pm

JJ – Arizona’s QB situation has hurt. I think I have to bench Larry Fitz. Not sure I can do anything to make the playoffs though.

D3

November 19th, 2012
8:51 pm

And from our second preseason game on August 19th………….

Turner Just Doesn’t Seem to Fit
This shouldn’t be seen as a call to immediately drop Turner or that he can’t give some good contributions to the Falcons, but he no longer seems to be a feature back, at least so far and at least in this offense. Turner looks slow and the offense seems to grind to a halt when he’s in the game. That’s surely an oversimplification because the offensive line has it’s issues and sometimes plays aren’t called right, but Turner doesn’t seem to fit in this new offense. Whether it’s a not a good scheme fit for him, the dreaded “30 age wall” has taken hold, or some combination of both, Turner looks ineffective, plain and simple. Maybe it’s only preseason and he’ll hit get his mojo soon, but right now, Jacquizz Rodgers should be getting most of the backfield snaps, for when he’s in the game, the offense seems way more productive.

If players read this stuff, which I firmly believe they DO NOT, I bet Turner absolutely hates my guts. It really is nothing personal (hell, I bought my mom a Michael Turner t-shirt a few years ago), but the fact is I believe much of our offensive woes have to do with plowing a round peg in a square hole, or trying to plug a sta-puft marshmallow into a keyhole.

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
8:55 pm

D3, I’m only going to tell you this once. When we got Turner from SD, they didn’t want to let him go. Their owner found out that TD was fooling around with his wife and told TD that he would trade him if TD would stop the affair and keep MT on the payroll until he dies. You didn’t hear that from me. OK?

Wings

November 19th, 2012
8:56 pm

I heard this review of Turner’s running against NO on one of the radio shows Saturday.

We all know he had 15 yards for 13 carries. One of the runs was 9 yards so for 12 carries he gained 6 yards. It really puts it into the right perspective.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
8:58 pm

Coop,dont forget you didnt even draft your own players, you got the computer auto picks…so dont feel bad.

D3

November 19th, 2012
8:59 pm

JB — Hysterical. Of all the reasons, that one makes the most sense :grin:

Wings — Wow. Is that 0.5 yards per carry? How long will this coaching staff keep this charade up?

Wabe

November 19th, 2012
9:01 pm

Getting way ahead of myself here, but I don’t wanna see anybody other than Konz and Blalock moving forward on this line. I think we should continue our search to bolster this line in the upcoming draft.

DT or LT/RT/RG in the draft.

Gotta build these lines. I can wait on LB. RB is definitely a need, but how high would they go? I don’t think any RB would look good without a line to run behind. Gotta get the lines fixed before investing any more in skilled positions.

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
9:01 pm

JJ

It’s all good, man. I’m a very stern guy sometimes, and it rubs people the wrong way. So, I can see the group up with MB.

But yeah, you don’t have to like him. Lol

D3

Can’t defend Smith anymore on that. It looks like his hands are on the offense. DK seems like a coach who wouldn’t mind using Quizz instead.

In other news, Kapernick is gonna take Alex Smith’s job. Lol

JJ

November 19th, 2012
9:01 pm

JB, NO WAY that cleared the wifes approval, lol.

Big Lou

November 19th, 2012
9:03 pm

Wabe

I agree. Fix the trenches.

We can always pick up a RB through the FA or trade.

Strong lines = Superbowls

D3

November 19th, 2012
9:04 pm

JJ — I’m not dead and buried just yet my friend. Looks like all those mocks you did (what like 200+ something?) helped you to a meager .500 campaign. I’m going to pull a Packers / Giants and hit my stride at the right time. Just wait.

JJ

November 19th, 2012
9:08 pm

Good luck but watch out for wk 13! ;)

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
9:08 pm

JJ, after 32 years she knows I ain’t right!

JJ

November 19th, 2012
9:11 pm

lol, same here JB!

hind tit

November 19th, 2012
9:12 pm

Yesterday looked like a case of football diarrhea. Maybe they got it out of their system.

D3

November 19th, 2012
9:19 pm

Big Lou / Wabe / “Trenches Debate” — Totally agree on the defensive line. As BR has noted many times, we essentially have one starter worthy guy (Peters) and he’s not even 100%. Sure, Babs has been good and can still be good for us, but is an every down DT next year @ 32 years old? Walker is a good rotation guy, Jerry is a bust, and Robertson is in the Smitty Witness Protection Program. I’m firm in my belief that any DT we get has to be well over 315+ lbs. Do we really need yet another 295 – 305 lb “quick” DT, when we have 3-4 of them already? No. There are a ton of good options for that route in this years draft. Big John Jenkins from UGA will likely be available, but not quite sure he’s 1st round worthy material. I firmly believe that a big butt DT will make everyone (DEs, LBs) look better.

I can’t really commit to the offensive line the way you guys are. I believe that Holmes is our future at LT, Blalock is our stud at LG, Konz @ center, move Clabo inside to RG, and re-sign Baker to a decent deal and move him to RT. That gives us a much better OL with minimal investment. I can’t see us spending megabucks for a FA OL, because you rarely get your money’s worth. All that said, I wouldn’t be upset in the least if we take an OL, specifically G if they’re not going to move Clabo inside. I just think it would be a shame to never TRY that lineup. It could give us a potentially very good OL for next to nothing.

In terms of an RB, I wouldn’t sell taking one early short, especially given our circumstances. Surely not in the 1st round, but look what Doug Martin’s done for the Bucs as a rookie and they even lost Carl Nicks before the season started. 3rd round would be the absolute last I’d wait for an RB. Again, if we don’t take one relatively high, we’ll likely keep Turner and his $8 million salary for his final year of his contract and we know if he’s on the team, than Smith will play regardless of how crappy his production is.

I think Robert McClain is making cornerback not nearly a big of need as we initially thought. We can roll with Michael Palmer and Chase Coffman for a year, IMO, or try and convince Gonzo to come back for one more. Even though I can’t say it wouldn’t be a decent pick, I can’t see spending a 1st round pick on a DE when they’ll be facing the same problems all our other DE’s have had in getting no help whatsoever from the DTs.

Fact is, we got several areas to address this upcoming off-season and only so many draft picks and money.

Birdman

November 19th, 2012
9:23 pm

Big game coming up this Sunday.And I know our Birds can beat the Bucs. But they have got to play better football than they did yesterday.

Big Ray . I can tell you there is know one here that likes this team no more than I do . And I have seen a big change in what they have today than what they have ever had before.I have served 4 years for my country back in the late seventies . And I believe in what we stand for here in the God blessed USA. A big Part of that is freedom of speech We just got done a week ago giving thanks and appreciation for the people who some gave there lives for those rights. And brother I try to pick up my cross daily.I should only hope we all do.But that is also still one of our rights.And I know you were addressing some one else but I read deeper than that in your comment.

I love to read what you all have to say about our team and I read much more than I post .I have read numerous blogs and I also don’t like what a lot of people and sport writers say or don;t say about the Falcons . There is not any site out there as good as the one D3 has put together here and hats off to him for taking time for all of the post he puts up.

I do hope Jones is going to be OK. As for as the Falcons Go I am very happy and proud of them and this season . They still have 6 games left and the playoffs.And just 2 more wins and they have clinched the south . We all want them to beat the Saints here at the dome next week tho and if what ever they did not do to the Cards . They have got to do to the Saints to win. And I really don’t want to see a loss to them again this year. Nuff said Be blessed Cage

GO FALCONS !!!!!!!!!

Wabe

November 19th, 2012
9:28 pm

Points well made D3.

Forgot about Holmes in my initial outlook. Agreed, about him, Konz, and Blalock. Still think we need one more solid plug on the right side of that line. Not comfortable moving forward with Baker at RT with Clabo next to him. Both of those guys are still as suspect as can be.

Completely agree about DT though. As you pointed out at some point yesterday, having a big boy DT that commands double teams would make everybody on this line and on this defense better. It’d shore up the run defense, and it’d help our ends drastically.

D3

November 19th, 2012
9:28 pm

Looks as though we’re not the only ones on Turner’s case………

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1414008-atlanta-falcons-need-to-give-michael-turner-the-ray-edwards-treatment-cut-him

Carasik says we’d be on the hook for $2.5 million even if we cut him in the off-season. Yikes, between him and Ray Edwards, that would like $7 million in DEAD MONEY. Luckily, we don’t have hardly anyone to re-up and cutting Turner and not renewing Grimes would still free up almost $16 million and that’s not even assuming Gonzalez does retire and takes the $7.5 million with him.

That’s one hell of a contract that Turner got. Not even able to get rid of him without costing money even into the last year of his contract. Geez.

E43

November 19th, 2012
9:34 pm

I disagree with many assessments on Turner. Turner is the best running back the Falcons have. Rodgers ability to receive the ball does not make up for his inability to run inside. Those same inside running issues are something I attribute to playcalling and the no huddle offense. The running back positions struggles are exactly what the media is saying. That is the lack of touches.

Our oline is pretty much the same since 2008 minus Dahl + Konz.. The touches that the backs do get will be on either first or second. That is acceptable. What is not acceptable is checking out of run into a 2-yard flair pass.

They will not run two consecutive run plays whether or not Rodgers gains 13 yards. Cannot be all pass happy in the first half and then be dumbfounded when the run struggles in the third and fourth quarters.

No huddle/audible=less exotic run blocking+less touches

Huddle=exotic run formations more touches

Cannot have it both ways. Cannot talk about fixing it every day. Sometimes we have to tighten our chinstraps and find out exactly what we are made of.

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
9:34 pm

We really lucked out with McClain. Great pickup. Never saw it coming.

I was thinking that the kid from Notre Dame (Darrin Walls) would be the “great find”.

Big Ray

November 19th, 2012
9:37 pm

Birdman ,

Agreed all the way (and appreciate your service to our country)…but what did I say that rubbed you wrong? I can be too flippant with my speech sometimes….1st amendment right or not…

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
9:40 pm

Yo Grady, you got a job?

D3

November 19th, 2012
9:41 pm

E43 — Will just have to respectfully disagree with on Turner. I’d venture to say that while Quizz may not have proven to be our best back, he certainly allows our offense to be much better, less predictable, and generally more explosive simply due to his versatility. I’ve said on every occasion that it’s unlikely that he’s our future feature back, but the offense just does do better when Turner is not in the game. Yes, our OL is not very good and that’s something we’ve all complained about for some time, but Smith and Co. rolled with the exact same OL from last year, I guess expecting a different result with Turner being a year older and much slower. Speaking of Turner himself, he just does not hit the hole with any authority. He’s always tip-toeing around instead of just hitting the hole. I don’t think he should be cut or anything like that and he’s already ranking as the Falcons all-time best running back, but he doesn’t fit in this offense. JMHO.

Two Men and a Truck

November 19th, 2012
9:48 pm

Saw this on another Falcons blog and it sums up much of what we Falcons fans feel………

The amazing thing was the entire stadium could feel the offense stalling out whenever Turner walked onto the field. Being there in person gave me a different perspective. You could literally FEEL the frustration as a Turner-based offense slowed our O to a near complete halt. People weren’t booing, but there was a large number of sighs anytime Turner took the ball. – DW

JB Falcon

November 19th, 2012
9:54 pm

MT, imo, was a good rb in his time. I’m getting tired of hearing the national media referring to him as running with lead shoes. The cage is already on that. No one has offered anything to support why we keep running him with a 1.5 avg. Thank you for your time Mike, have a good retirement.

LRD

November 19th, 2012
9:59 pm

How bout Da Bears? Man, we thought we looked ugly.. the Bears D is getting schooled

FFL: My only gripe with Ryan this week is FFL. He gave me a big whopping 4 points. But The Owls still leading in the standings

Birdman

November 19th, 2012
10:12 pm

Big Ray

I thought that maybe your post was at me as one of the anyone elses . Being you posted right behind me and my thoughts on the Birds loss. I am sorry I took it that way and also for not reading things right. I just took it the wrong way and I am truly sorry that I did.

Working away from home at my age for weeks at a time is starting to get to me. The 3 most important things to me is God ‘ Family ‘ Country. And I am thankful for having a job.

I am sorry tho man .Please forgive me for being wrong

Coop

November 19th, 2012
10:13 pm

D3 – Welcome. I can’t agree more. You build your teams from the inside out. Remember when I said the Spoon pick was a bad move. It had nothing to do with Spoon, it was that we needed a DT or an OC or OG at the time. Who knows if Dent is any good when you can’t anchor the line and push the pocket.

My draft is DT, DE, RB, MLB, CB, TE, RT

DaveD

November 19th, 2012
10:14 pm

At least Rogers can catch. Turner was tackled for a loss, dropped an easy catch and badly missed a block that almost got Ryan hammered. And that was in about five minutes.

Coop

November 19th, 2012
10:14 pm

Depending on talent available, I’d switch DE and DT.

falcon21

November 19th, 2012
10:20 pm

Birdman, that was class my friend, same with you Big Ray. That is what this Cage is all about. Later all.

Michael

November 19th, 2012
11:47 pm

I said it last week and this week has only reinforced it. Mike Smith is as worthless as a milk bucket under a bull. He will not change and it will see us end up 0-4 in the playoffs. I was not in favor of them brining him back this season and am not going to be in favor of him remaining. He is nothing more than a transactional leader, one who simply looks at numbers, statistics and tendencies and plays the percentages, which is fine in the regular season. It will get you more wins than losses. But it does not translate in the post season. He is not the kind of person you want to follow in war.

We need a transformational leader, one who can communicate with players and inspire them to reach an achievable goal; one who can motivate his players to rise beyond their own abilities to play extraordinary ball. Smith cannot do this. He is not a brilliant football mind nor a leader of men. He is simply a guy who plays the numbers game…period. He needs to go.

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
12:21 am

“Climb down off the cross, you’re not Jesus Christ and we could use the wood for something else…..” – BR

Damn you man!! That was a new keyboard you just ruined! Thank you for the coffee burns all up in my nose :) !! I am awake now.

E43

November 20th, 2012
12:23 am

D3- The travesty here is bringing back Snelling at the tailback position. I would understand if he converted to FB because he would have a longer career. I doubt he will be in the NFL past the Falcons. The more I think about it, I think they returned Snelling and Turner to buy them time. They can now justify going after a RB with a high draft pick.

I don’t value Rodgers as much as a starter for the same reason I don’t value Harry Douglas as much as a starter. That’s because they do nothing to improve the run game. The scheme in 2008 wore down DT’s and Matt Ryan was not taking many hits. Matt Ryan can get the ball to anyone on the field. That’s really my problem with Rodgers as just another receiver. What happens when they have to run just to protect Matt Ryan? What happens against the Bears defense? Isnt this one of the reasons we havent gotten ou the first round? Does Rodgers share the same issues with Norwood who was averaging 5-6ypc before Mike Smith’s power scheme?

No one is running the ball well. Not Turner , Snelling or Rodgers. That’s running the ball to their strengths. The only person with an excuse of not getting opportunities is Antone Smith, who’s in a similar situation Dwyer is in with the Steelers. Difference between Dwyer and Smith is that injuries forced Mendenhal and Redman out his way.

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
12:26 am

“Finally saw what SP has been talking about RE: the route combinations. Some of them were pitiful. I remember several times seeing receivers running right in each others areas. ” – D3

Glad to know I’m not crazy. I wondered for a bit if it was just me or the receivers struggling with the new system. There comes a point when you see the same things enough that it has to be a design issue IMHO. The good news is that if these things can be corrected we should see greater red zone efficiency and maybe a few bigger plays.

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
12:48 am

Blog Monster check

“Getting way ahead of myself here, but I don’t wanna see anybody other than Konz and Blalock moving forward on this line. I think we should continue our search to bolster this line in the upcoming draft.

DT or LT/RT/RG in the draft.

Gotta build these lines. I can wait on LB. RB is definitely a need, but how high would they go? I don’t think any RB would look good without a line to run behind. Gotta get the lines fixed before investing any more in skilled positions.” – Wabe

I said to D3 I didn’t have the ammo to back up a war in this area and that still holds true. It is no secret I put value drafting as a main priorty but I don’t limit myself fully to it. From a purely value persective T, DE, DT should be the first things we look at as only QB is valued more. OC, G etc. can be had in the second round on most occasions. That being said I do not want another Baker fiasco where we end up taking a 2nd/3rd round talent in the first round because of need. If there is a run on DT and DE leaving a beastly Tackle available we must jump on that. Under the right circumstances I could even see taking a OC or G in the first but that would not be my first goal.

crybaby

November 20th, 2012
1:19 am

M.Turner need to be THE return man..both punts and kick offs..MAYBE he could earn his keep and rack up 100t yards a game!

Look people, any team can win 6 games and any team can loose 6 games…the only ones that count are the ones in the middle!

Ryan still does not have the ability to throw the ball over the hands of the stretched out D.L. or over their helment’s for that matter!

Our Weapons and our strength is still not being utilized by Koetter or Nolan..Why the hell the receiver Davis is not being played is upsetting to me..All he does is catch the ball and score touchdowns.

Why this team can’t stop the run or have one of the better running teams is wild..From top 5 to
bottom in 1 year is crazy stuff!

Oh well, we will see how the last 6 games play out..2 T.B.–1 N.O.–1 Carolina-! Giants..I think they will be dam lucky to win 2-3 of the last 6..You just never know which team is going to show up!
I certainly don’t see any play off magic at this point..

darrell starks

November 20th, 2012
6:16 am

Somebody please tell why Lamar Holmes is not out there for atleast a couple series, Baker is weak and need be move to right side, why can’t coaches staff see this the Falcons will not win in the Playoffs with this offensive line.

Offensive line Horrible.

Make changes ASAP.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 20th, 2012
6:22 am

DT and MLB is a must change on defense, teams continue run the ball straight up the middle.

Look for Martin to gain 200yards this weekend.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 20th, 2012
6:36 am

DL is major issue specially at DT.

Perrie and Walker are not getting the job done at all, Cliff Matthews was creating Havoc he did more in 1game than Edwards did in 2season with Falcons.

Travian Robertson is the only true NT on this team and should be starting, when your rank almost dead last game in NFL against the run you can’t continue play same players avery game and not make adjustment.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 20th, 2012
6:41 am

STARTES ON DEFENSE

KROY, BAB, TRAVIAN, PETERS, ABRAHAM

NICHOLAS, SPOON,

DUNTA, MOORE, DECOUD, SAMUEL

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 20th, 2012
6:51 am

Offensive line is horrible and continue to be weak in the running game and passing, Matt Ryan is saving the OL with his quick decision,Falcons are rank almost dead last in yards per game.

Mcclure is done him and Baker are getting push around up front like a lof a bread, Clabo need move inside to RG and move Konz 2center.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 20th, 2012
6:56 am

STARTERS HOLMES, BLALOCK, KONZ, CLABO, BAKER

RYAN, SNELLING, TURNER OR QUIZZ

WHITE, JULIO, TONY

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

BobbyDawg

November 20th, 2012
7:07 am

There’s really no way to tell what the O linemen are doing other than watching the game.There are all kinds of stats to look at on qb,rb,wr,te,db,lb, and so on but no numbers on OL, so all we can do is watch and see who’s pushing forward and who’s getting pushed back. Right now the Falcons ol are on the losing end. Back in the day when we couldn’t even post a winning record we still had Jeff Van Note at center and a pretty decent run game especially when William Andrews was on board. FIX IT.
GO FALCONS !

Wings

November 20th, 2012
7:32 am

birdman – “Working away from home at my age for weeks at a time is starting to get to me. The 3 most important things to me is God ‘ Family ‘ Country. And I am thankful for having a job.”

There is always a positive associated with every negative. Birdman thanks for reminding us that football is only a game. A good message for this week. And, you gave us some insight into who you are.

Wings

November 20th, 2012
7:34 am

For defensive tackle, I nominate the “Blog Moster”. The most powerful one on the Cage.

GregKennesaw

November 20th, 2012
8:12 am

start snelling

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2012
8:15 am

While RB MTurner is not as quick to the hole as he once was, he at least had holes to get to back then. I still say we’re seeing the effects of not having Probowl road grading FB OMughelli to clear out the trash in the holes. Our inability to run started almost immediately after Mughelli went down with his injury.

The fact that we drafted a FB, especially one known for his power blocking, is proof our coaching staff felt the same way. With better overall blocking from our OL and FB, we wouldn’t be complaining about MTurner at all. He’s still capable of going through a hole and causing havoc in the secondary, but he can’t create his own holes or overcome a stacked DEF.

CAGERS, have you noticed how teams have been able to pound us with their running gm in the 1st half, only to be almost completely shutdown in the 2nd? Those same sweeps that killed us in the 1st half of Sunday’s gm became loses or no gains in the 2nd. WRs have been unable to gain many YAC against us all yr.

Also the announcers made an observation and comment about how efficient we are on 3rd and long but struggle mightly on 3rd and short. We need to get out of the power running approach we continue to use on 3rd and short and treat every 3rd down attempt the same whether it’s 3rd and long or short.

BobbyDawg

November 20th, 2012
8:36 am

The worst part of Sunday’s game was only the first quarter — 13 points. They made a good adjustment and the next three quarters went 3 – 0 – 3 I think. I think the whole lb corps plays much better with ‘Spoon in there, but I hope they give him plenty of time to get over his injury and JJ too. Right now I’m more concerned with the ol than anything. If we get that fixed MR2 and 33 will both look better and there’ll be more points on our side of the board.

Zoomie

November 20th, 2012
8:54 am

Agree completely with KS: the problem with Turner is he’s not getting the holes to run through. The O-line is not getting it done, and the FBs have not helped. MT33 is a straight-ahead runner who has to get to the second level at speed to be effective. It’s not happening. The Falcons experimented with trying to get him to the edge last week, but it didn’t work because MT33 cannot cut back into a crease. MT33 had one great run (9 yards I think) Sunday on the right side where Clabo and Konz stoned their guys and Blalock pulled for a lead block. When the LBs weren’t able to meet MT33 head-on, he got positive yardage. The problem with MT33 is that he’s not able to consistently get the kind of holes the O-line blew open on that particular run.

We saw a lot more Snelling and Quizz, plus we saw them try some different things with Turner last Sunday. The Falcons are trying hard to answer the riddle to the run game. I think DK is feeling the pressure.

Now that I think about it, I wonder if the Falcons felt confident enough going against the Cards that they tried a lot of O experimentation? Different looks in the running game, receivers occupying the same space, MR2 bouncing balls off defenders’ heads, the strange “attitude,” or “listlessness” the players seemed to display . . . makes sense if you think about it.

This would definitely help explain why the O, as a whole, looked pretty clueless most of the game. I hope that’s what it is. If that’s the answer, it makes me feel a little better about where the team is going moving forward into the season.

SPS

November 20th, 2012
9:29 am

D3: Have you given any thought to having the Cage meet up at a sports bar for an away game? The Detroit game on a Saturday night would be perfect. Need to find a central location, and print name tags. Might also need a metal detector at the door in some cases. ;)

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
9:52 am

Birdman ,

No, no sweat at all man. Definitely wasn’t aiming at your head, sorry to give that impression.

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
10:08 am

E43 ,

Does Rodgers even get enough carries to show what he can do? I think not. However, he has more good runs than Turner does and despite having a mere one-third of the carries (you may as well call them “chances”) that Turner gets, Quizz has the same yards-per-carry average.

Besides, Quizz gets to the hole quicker (assuming there is one), makes guys miss a lot more, and is much more versatile in the passing game.

However….I think that the truth is simple – without a better push/blocking from the OL and good lead blocker, there isn’t a RB out there who is going to greatly improve this running game. Some guys have more speed and are more elusive…this much is true. I’m not saying I don’t wan a better RB.

What I’m sayin is this – you have to fix the foundation before you start putting up walls…

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
10:09 am

SP ,

Every now and then I come up with a good one. Agreed on your draft thoughts, BTW…

Big Lou

November 20th, 2012
10:13 am

Big Lou

November 20th, 2012
10:16 am

“Agree completely with KS: the problem with Turner is he’s not getting the holes to run through. The O-line is not getting it done, and the FBs have not helped.” Zoomie

The reason why the Falcons got a TD Sunday was because of the FB, FYI.

Big Lou

November 20th, 2012
10:21 am

Joshua malavenda

November 20th, 2012
10:31 am

Heres a great article to put this lousy win perspective:

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1415516-atlanta-falcons-sloppy-win-more-desirable-than-a-blowout

My thoughts-

I am not really irritated by the win I am more irritated by the lack of not fixing the glaring problems that we had in aints game. I am starting to wonder if the issue is Mike Smith. I will make a early prediction if
the falcons don’t go deep in the playoffs the falcons will fire mike smith.

I was doing some early draft research and hope the falcons draft Barrett Jones from u of Alabama
He would fit perfectly in the falcons oline because he can play all the positions on ol and he is quite good at them plus he is a great person and would fit perfectly in our “choir boy” locker room.

Hamad Meander

November 20th, 2012
10:34 am

Well, one thing is for sure. If you throw 5 INTs and no TDs and STILL win the game, you are a team of destiny. Is that an NFL record? To have that many turnovers, no TD passes and still win…..

I’m not worried about this team, Matt Ryan, or anything else. The Falcons should secure home field and a first round bye and then, who knows? I don’t expect them to get to the Superbowl, but progress (a playoff win) is ok.

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
10:43 am

I think everyone should read this…..

Some scary similarities between us and the Bears…other than their defense is better than ours. Most of you will know precisely what I mean. Any diehard Mike Smith supporters might not want to apply. And understand one thing…this isn’t about backup QBs. Not at all. Don’t be confused….

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/san-francisco-49ers-beat-chicago-bears-32-7-teach-nfc-lessons-backup-quarterbacks-111912

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
10:54 am

regarding calibers: I prefer 357 mags – can shoot 357 or 38 special (little cheaper); i’ve got ruger gp 100 & henry rifles both in 357 with the capability of toting a combat load – just in case we run out of gas and electricity the next 20 years.

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
11:03 am

question: after watching the Cards – is Larry Fitzgerald the most over-rated WR in the league? He reminded me of Chad Johnson out there – looked like he was mailing in his effort. Without Warner, Whisenhunt is a pretty average coach – decent D though.

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
11:05 am

D3- I doubt the players read this – maybe some of the subs – but, I would think somebody on either AB’s or TD’s staff just peruse at least the cage – some smart folks on here – especially on draft day – if you look at guys the Cage has ID’d – we’ve picked up on some good guys – Kerrigan, Aldon Smith, JPP. Torrey Smith looks good – but, JJ is a game changing WR.

Wings

November 20th, 2012
11:09 am

Big Ray that is a BIG article. It defines what the Falcons are and are not:

You have to lean forward

outdated

A season is about direction and momentum. The deeper you get, the more things find their shape.

Niners coach Jim Harbaugh outsmarted Smith from the start, and embarrassed him.

Harbaugh’s aggressiveness.

Anyway, Harbaugh was looking, which is the only way to find something.

Bears QB assigned not give the ball away. That’s it. The same assignment coaches have given backups for decades

while Smith, after all these years with the Bears, still almost never wins big games.

But it just looked all wrong, not only by execution, but also by attitude, body language, posture. It looked as if the Niners were proactively trying to be a Super Bowl team while the Bears were hoping everyone else would get out of their way.

And it was just impressive to see Harbaugh look for an advantage, and take chances, when Alex Smith was out.

Meanwhile, Lovie Smith tried to win on one side of the ball

___________________________________________________

The Falcons are who we think they are in the cage. I wish MB could understand that article.

Wabe

November 20th, 2012
11:21 am

We know the line may be the problem, but that problem ain’t going away.

So, despite Turner being a better RB than Quizz in some people’s eyes, that ain’t the circumstance we find ourselves in at this point. What needs to be evaluated and observed is whose the better option behind this line?

I don’t see Quizz as a great between the tackles runner, and don’t see him as the longterm solution at RB. But, at this stage, he’s probably a better option at RB with the line being the way it is. He can make his way through smaller holes, and can find them and get through them quicker than Turner so the blocks don’t have to hold up as long.

I don’t expect our rushing issues to get corrected any time soon, and especially this week, because Tampa is one of the best teams in the league stopping the run. Funny thing is though, they’re on the exact opposite end of the spectrum [they ranked 32nd last I checked] in pass defense. So again, the gameplan should be heavy pass, as it’s been every week.

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
11:24 am

I think the Falcons thus far have sucked up a lot seasonal luck – again, a lot like 2010 – we DEFINATELY play down to our competition – at this point, this is a direct reflection on smith – he now has a LONG track record. If folks think Turner is a better runner than Quizz, you are delusional. but, if you expect quizz to run it between the tackles all game, he’ll be on the DL in about 2 weeks. depends on how smart your coaches are.

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
11:26 am

we probably need a LB to shadow Martin this week. I fear how many runs he’ll get – and, TB has a much better QB than AZ. and, not so stupid or “hasty” a coach – whisenhunt did us a gigantic favor – he yanked his QB WITH a 13 point lead. dumb.

Wabe

November 20th, 2012
11:30 am

And Big Ray, that’s an excellent read and you’re definitely on point noting the similarities. A lot of those same conclusions drawn about Lovie Smith definitely apply to Smitty.

There’s a difference between guys like Sean Payton and Jon Harbaugh who trust what they do vs. guys like Smitty who trust that the other guy will make a mistake somewhere. Those are coaches that force the issue, and that can’t really be said about Smitty.

Smitty’s a good coach, but how he fares in this postseason will be very telling. This will be his 4th crack at the postseason. If we see the same results, he can’t run from that.

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
11:32 am

the bears got embarassed by SF. badly. but, their back up QB played poorly. kapernick played very well.

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
11:49 am

Great article BR, but you already knew that. This is my favorite qoute and one that I fear applies to someone in our organization more than we’d like.

“It was all just a reminder of why Harbaugh is one of the young, up-and-coming star coaches while Smith, after all these years with the Bears, still almost never wins big games.” – Greg Couch, smart guy

If we let the past go and go with what this team is truly capable of even the Niners should fear us greatly. It doesn’t look like a certain someone will let that happen…this year could end up even more of a transition than many expected.

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
12:12 pm

I said it earlier, from an upper management perspective, if the Falcons & Smith crash and burn again, it will be time to replace him. I think if the Falcons do win a SB, Tony G is retired. I think if we come close, we have a chance to keep him. He and JJ may be our most valuable guys on offense.

J85

November 20th, 2012
12:20 pm

My thoughts on the team:

Offense
I think key to our offense last game was our interior line play.
To be honest, I think the tackles were doing pretty ok (some exceptions here!).
Guards are the most solid part of our offense with Blalock getting the deal done and Konz showing that he should keep his spot.
I think Todd McClure had one of his toughest games of -well- at least this season.

Arizona brought the house early and often in the A-gap, overloading TMC.
This got MR2 off balance as he had no way to step up. I believe the only sack came early, didn’t it?
Later on, Arisona loosened up a bit, but Matty still was off balanced, having his clock ticking a little too fast with more men in coverage.

Also, the run was crushed by the inside linemen pressure. (remember the run where JS44 almost got tackled at the place where he took off on a 3rd down play?)

I say: get the inside covered first and Matty will be fine next game.

Defense
I think they absolutely had a brilliant game!
If you give up just 1 TD the entire game, while losing the turnover battle by a +5 differential, scoring a TD in the process, you did a brilliant job.

Downside was the run coverage, but that’ll continue to happen.
But what do you want with a 4-2 defense, with the DE’s often in 2 point stance?
That’s just 2 DT’s with their hands in the dirt. If they’re double teamed, with the DE’s singled out as their pad level is too high to be able to tackle on the run, it’s easy for an offense to block. Especially with such weak DT’s we have.
In comes the LB core and that’s exactly where we could use an upgrade (shoutout to spoon)

It seems like MN likes to see how much pass coverage looks he can give the opposing team and slides it down to run coverage looks based on how the team wants to run against them.
As long as it works down the line, that’s fine by me!

DHunt

November 20th, 2012
12:29 pm

“The Falcons are who we think they are in the cage.” Wings

I’m not one to attack anyone personally, but ego much? As if the Cage hasn’t been wrong about the Falcons personnel, schemes, coaches, etc, etc, etc. Akeem Dent was a bust after his first two games as a starter, according to the prevailing Cage sentiment. Now he’s showing promise. I remember when Brent Grimes was persona non grata, then he became the best we had, now he’s expendable. I recall when Snell wasn’t worth the money he wanted, and nobody else wanted him which proved it, and now many Cagers want him starting.

The Cage is the best collection of football fan minds I’ve ever seen in one place. But the hubris expressed by that statement is epic.

The Bears got beat, and Lovie got out-foxed. But an observant viewer could have easily detected that the Bears have been a one trick pony all season. If you give them turnovers they will beat you; if you protect the football they don’t have the offense to compete.

The Falcons, on the other hand, have shown something that few teams display. As the article link by Joshua malavenda (new cager?) points out, this team has shown that it knows how to win. http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1415516-atlanta-falcons-sloppy-win-more-desirable-than-a-blowout

If the defense has a bad day, the offense steps it up, if the offense struggles, the defense makes stops, when we turn the ball over, we bow up, Somebody goes down, next man up does their job. This Falcons team never quits, and has been rewarded for that never die attitude with 9 wins. That’s what has stood out for me more than even the areas that need improvement.

D3

November 20th, 2012
12:32 pm

While I’ll admit that I think that Harbaugh is a good coach, I’m not feeling all the lovefest on the guy. To be frank, he’s an egomaniac @sshole, in my opinion and despite some good games, this is the same team that lost to the Vikings, tied a terrible Rams team, and got embarrassed by the Giants at home. I would love for Smitty to inherit some of his traits, but the more I read on the guy the more I just don’t like him. He must have gotten different genes from his brother, who I think is a class act and a great coach.

While I’m very critical of Smitty, I’m not ready to throw the towel in on him just yet. The guy is already the greatest Falcons coach in history in less than 5 years. He has shown some regression to his conservative days, but he’s also shown he can change (some) and allow his coordinators free reign. Sadly, many of our best victories all came earlier in the year. Like I said the other day, we’ll know everything we need to know in terms of this year’s team the next two weeks, really 10 days.

Paddy — Agreed on the 2010 similarities. We did have some big wins that year, though. We beat the sAINTS in New Orleans, the Packers, and the Ravens. But when we lost that MNF game to the sAINTS after X-Mas, I knew we were in trouble. We have gotten lucky to win and that does mirror 2010. I sure hope I’m wrong this year, but unless we get back to early-season form, I’m starting to worry that this year may not hold what we want and need after all.

D3

November 20th, 2012
12:37 pm

SPS — We actually tried to have a small get-together several years ago, but everyone got hung up one way or another at the last minute. Coop and I talked about having some type of get-together over the summer when everyone isn’t so crunched for time. I’m all for it. That Lions game seems like a good idea, only issue would be trying to find somewhere that’s even close to being central for all of us.

D3

November 20th, 2012
12:41 pm

DHunt — Thanks for the needed jolt of positivity. I’m as guilty of anyone of going to the darkside. I do think some of it is simply human nature, regardless of how good your coach is at motivating you, to play to your competition. It’s always easy to get up for the big games, but not so much for the lesser teams. Even the teams that consistently blow people out of the water will get caught with their pants down from time to time (the great 49ers losing to Vikes and tying awful Rams; Florida St was beating people by 50+ pts a game, than loses to NC St). The Bucs game will be absolutely huge.

D3

November 20th, 2012
12:43 pm

Good article and this might be my favorite part……….

Yet so far this season, the Falcons have showed an ability to win not only with a near non-existent running game, but even on days when kicker Matt Bryant is having a bad day (Dallas), when the defense gets run over (Kansas City, Carolina, Washington) or when Ryan and the offense are off their game (Denver, Oakland, Arizona).

When one part of the team doesn’t perform, one of the other parts is there to pick up the slack.

Zoomie

November 20th, 2012
12:44 pm

BR@ 10:43 AM

Very sobering read.

Arno

November 20th, 2012
12:46 pm

Falcons are 3-1 against teams absolutely desperate for a W. A little taste of playoff atmosphere doesn’t hurt.

Wings

November 20th, 2012
1:00 pm

Dhunt I meant by that statement that this large diverse group of cage fans with differing opinions is usually on target when we discuss the pros and cons of the Falcon. I did not mean we are the know it all and always right cagers. I should have expressed better.

Matty Bicep

November 20th, 2012
1:14 pm

I learned a long time ago that an apology doesn’t always negate the deed.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 20th, 2012
1:18 pm

Do we really, truly know our OL stinks at run blocking? IMHO, the jury is still out. We have 3 RB (Quizz, Turner and Snelling) neither one are speed merchants, Quizz being the most shifty of the lot, their speed is relatively the same, IMO.

I put up some preseason rushing comparisons of the 4 roster RB’s on the previous blog, not surprising (at least for me), my 3 year preseason averages for each of them, had Antone Smith leading the way, with 4.5 yards per carry. Numbers Don’t Lie, even in preseason, IMO.

If we are somehow thinking retooling the OL, make it something of a juggernaut, will solve our rushing problems, We’re sadly mistaken. IMO, gone are the days of a mauling offensive line, in the new age NFL, there are guys on the defensive side of the ball, just as big, strong (stronger) in some cases. Teams are drafting 220lb fast (strong) RB’s that compliments…and makes average OL’s look like World Beaters.

Case in point, Carl Nicks, probowl OLineman, injured, out for the season, his replacement stepped in, Martin didn’t miss a beat,…in fact, Martin has put up some of his most eye popping numbers since Nicks been on IR…and If I am not mistaken? most of his longer runs from scrimmage have been behind Nicks replacement.

Guys, I not saying we’re not in need of a stout OL…all I’m saying is, a top notch RB can and will, mask some deficiencies. IMHO.

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2012
1:19 pm

Anytime MTurner is in the gm on 3rd down, DEFs know we’ll either run inside, or use him as a blocker rather than pass receiver. That allows the DEF to use an additional LB to blitz rather than cover in pass DEF. With JSnelling and/or JRogers in the gm, a LB and/or safety has to account for 1 or both of them in pass protection. But when we’re in a 3rd and short situation with Turner in the gm, everyone knows it’s going to be an inside run.

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2012
1:42 pm

SOMEBODY-It’s not just a matter of the OL all by itself not getting the job done. First, the OL isn’t moving defenders off the line with any consistency. Secondly, our FBs haven’t done a good job of clearing out what holes are there. Thirdly, MTurner hasn’t been getting to the line quick enough. And forthly, we’re using the same plays in 3rd and short situations that we’ve used the last 4-5yrs.

Because of our predictability in short yardage situations, especially with MTurner in the gm, DEFs seem to be using the same up the gut blitz approach they use when coming after MRyan. When we were running out the clock and needed a couple of key 3rd downs, we used swing passes to JSnelling and JRogers to seal the deal.

When you see DEFs be so successful at stopping the run by stacking the line up the middle, it stands to reason that the outside should be open to a pitchout or swing pass. We need to start thinking speed, quickness, and versatility(JRogers/ASmith) in short yardage situations rather than continuing to rely on brute power and strength(MTurner/FB).

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
1:53 pm

Dhunt ,

While I don’t have a mammoth ego that I’m aware of, I do find that article unsettling.

I liked your positivity at the end. I’d like it even more if it applied to the postseason…

D3 ,

Oh, Smitty will get his crack at things again. AB has already said his seat isn’t hot…though we shall see if temperatures change according to postseason success or not.

That said, nobody has to like Harbaugh. Very few folks like Tom Coughlin. Including his own employers at times. Jerry Jones hated Jimmy Johnson. It ain’t a popularity contest, it’s all about rings…

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
1:59 pm

I learned a long time ago that an apology doesn’t always negate the deed.

You’re right. An apology can’t negate the deed, whatever the deed is or was.

An apology is an acknowledgement on the part of one party that a second party has been offended (or so they have perceived, at least) or somehow wronged, harmed, etc.

Perception being the key word, though in some cases “common cause and common sense” can turn the subject to black and white whereas other situations may be various shades of gray.

Thus concludes my philosophical ha-penny….

Nookah

November 20th, 2012
2:00 pm

Greetings Cagers!!!

Great read guys, I ‘m having fun reading the myriad of views being spilled in the Cage.

I’m usually an optimistic Falcon fan and I like to see the glass 1/2 full. However, Sunday’s performance left me scratching my head, and I was prepared to blog about the positives until I read the article posted earlier. That article sums up my reasons for optimism. We are finding ways to win and we will see each way is not the same; we are a resourceful team.

With that said, I am still concerned about the imbalance we have on offence. We have become almost 1 dimensional, all pass and no running game. The question is, can we win in the playoffs like this? My guess would be no but with 6 big games to go we will get our act together.

As someone alluded to earlier, Smitty is a percentages guy. He does not take chances and perhaps that’s why we are now throwing on 3rd & short because in the past we have not been able to run it (see Saints & Giants 2011), so he is playing the percentages . One thing is certain, MR2 will not throw 5 ints for the rest of the season, mark my word, so that demon has been exorcised never to rear it’s ugly head in 2012. Thankfully it was vs. the Cardinals and not in the playoffs.

Find of the year – McClain. Wish I could say the same for our DE’s. Hopefully I’ll eat crow against TB. Please Mass, Matthews or Sid, please make me eat crow!!!

Cagers, I’m suffering up here in Toronto, all I can see are Bills games and of course as some of you know, there ain’t no Dish Network or Direct TV this side of the world. I may have to move to the ATL because I gotta see my birds. Please send me some links so I can see them online. Only if it’s a Sunday night, Monday night or Thursday night and we don’t have too many of those at least not enough for me. I need to see my Birds every week.

Go Falcons!!!

Nookah

November 20th, 2012
2:02 pm

Ken S, Big Ray, Wabe, JJ et al, whatup guys. I have been enjoying your posts as usual.

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
2:16 pm

“Please send me some links so I can see them online. Only if it’s a Sunday night, Monday night or Thursday night and we don’t have too many of those at least not enough for me. I need to see my Birds every week.” – Nookah

Can’t make it too easy as we don’t want to ruin a good thing. If you were to Google cough*firstrow*cough or attend a game and sit in the FIRSTROW a link fairy might appear to guide a wayward traveller such as yourself. As far as I know discussing internet ‘pirating is illegal’ , babbling about brooks, fishing ‘pirating is illegal’, or even ‘parrots is illegal’ of consciousness is forbidden and punishable by watching the Jax Jaguars non stop for 2 hours.

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
2:18 pm

As for that article, you take what you want from it.

I noticed a few things:

1) The OL did it’s job, getting good push/protection.

2) The gameplan was very aggressive and was quite successful against a defense that not only has been beating opponents up, but has been scoring by itself as well.

3) The backup QB was given the chance to play aggressive. That builds a LOT of confidence for every guy who gets on the field with him.

That wouldn’t be possible without the QB being talented enough to deliver the goods.

Again…take from that what you want.

I hope we continue to find ways to win. I hope that we get good enough to not NEED to find those ways in the majority of our games. It would be nice if the gameplan worked more often than not.

And if you think that’s too much to ask, well then I hope that we can “find ways to win” every Sunday right on through the end of January, because that’s what it’s gonna take. If it works, then great. Nobody said you have to believe in on method or another. So long as you hang on for the ride, you’re a fan, you’re a fan, you’re a fan….

Nookah

November 20th, 2012
2:19 pm

SP, that’s too funny Bro but as in true Cage style, you are helping a fallen citizen of FalconNation!!

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
2:22 pm

SP ,

“Hey, you cheated!”

“Pirate….”

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
2:23 pm

Nookah ,

Good stuff my man, good to hear from you. Sorry you’re stuck with watching Mario “fail” Williams and the guys who used to employ Doug Flutie, Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, and Bruce Smith…back when they were watchable.

Hoping we fix something in our running game somehow because you only play good teams in the playoffs. And all of them know how to stop something…we need a run game.

Arno

November 20th, 2012
2:59 pm

The Bucs’ six Ws have come against teams that are a combined 16-34. The QBs they have beaten this year have thrown a total of 46 interceptions. They can’t fill their stadium.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 20th, 2012
3:09 pm

Yeah, but the Bucs 4 loses against Giants, Saints, Cowboys and Redskins have idividually been 7 points or less. We’re in for a close fought game…know if and buts about that. IMO.

There want be any blowouts come Sunday. We win…it’ll come in a close one.

Nookah

November 20th, 2012
3:11 pm

BR, but waht is it? Is it the Ol or is it the RB? Is it the cart or the horse or is it both?

One thing I know MT cannot run outside so that tells me if he’s on the field we have no alternative but to run between the tackles,unless……………….yes Ken S……we have a good FB.

Do you remember CJ in Tennessee in the early season, wasn’t that his problem too, and if I am not mistaken, they put in a FB and it made a big difference. Is that our “fix” and perhaps as Ken S alluded to that is why we drafted Bradie Ewing but he had season ending injury.

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/article-1/Falcons-Sign-Guard-Gunn/ff4e5b39-7391-4598-9240-0ec151b5b7d8

Perhaps it’s the OL? or is this the Hawley effect?

Go Falcons!!

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
3:12 pm

“SP, that’s too funny Bro but as in true Cage style, you are helping a fallen citizen of FalconNation!!” – Nookah

No worries and Yarrgh me matey. Careful of those ‘parrots is illegal’ as crossing the ‘piracy is really cool’ could cause bad things…( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyaLZHiJJnE ).

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
3:17 pm

“SP ,

“Hey, you cheated!”

“Pirate….” – BR

Hey, I’m just into the total protonic reversal thing. If it gets rid of the Sta-Puft Marshmellow man, I’ll cross the ‘piracy cures prostate problems’ any day! YARRRGHHH!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 20th, 2012
3:53 pm

IMO, our run game…and the lack thereof, is not respected by any team in the league. Even deploying a fullback for lead blocking is not enough, IMHO. We’re working on our second FB and counting this year. We’ve even tried hawley as a lead blocker, Defenses are selling all out plugging running lanes up the middle because they don’t respect our RB’s speed to bounce it to the outside. I noticed on our clock killing, last drive against the Cards, there were 2 toss sweeps, 1 to Turner for 7 yards…and 1 to Quizz for 7 yards resulting in a 1st down and win. Case and point, we out smarted them, I think? You would somehow believe our strategy would be run’em where they aint, what a novel idea, catch’em by surprise.

Now, I will give credit where its due, Cox sprung Turner on the 1 yard TD, aberration? or once in a blue moon phenomenon? I’ll choose the latter.

Predictable play calling, Turner diminished talents are the most glaring problems, IMO. When defenses send more bodies than we can block up the middle, I aint know coach…common sense tells me the peripherals are there for the taking.

Nookah

November 20th, 2012
4:14 pm

Somebody, but I guess you’re sayin’ you can’t run the peripherals if you a’int got the speed!!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 20th, 2012
4:36 pm

Nookah, If I can condense my last post, even with the lack of speed…and predictable running plays, we still should be able to beat them to the edge (eg. toss sweeps) better yet…why not go for the knock out punch, play action? SOMEBODY’S gotta be one on one with 8 denders in the box.

JJ

November 20th, 2012
4:38 pm

Little Dougie will rush for 4 tds and over 150 yds (giving me 50+ fantasy points and sinking all of D3’s dreams of FF playoffs) and since Im benching JJ, he will have a blowout game and Bryant kicks the winning field goal as time expires. 31-28 Falcons

Mr. Obvious, reallyreallyreally need Spoon back, any word?

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 20th, 2012
4:39 pm

JJ

November 20th, 2012
4:41 pm

Nookah, weve been missing some of your nasta/marley lyrics!!!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 20th, 2012
4:41 pm

JJ, we’re on the same page, I’m thinking we win by 4 pts.

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
4:44 pm

“Mr. Obvious, reallyreallyreally need Spoon back, any word?” – JJ

Paging. I can’t speak for Mr. O but a little illegal parrot with an eye patch told me spoons will be available in the mess hall this weekend.

JJ

November 20th, 2012
4:48 pm

SP, lame my friend, come on…thats not worthy from you!!! lol

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
4:49 pm

actually, a sincere, heartfelt apology does negate the deed – or does if you know how to forgive and accept that the person apologizing is doing so in earnest – not just to earn brownie points where there is NO change in future behavior. I apologize if I recognize i have made an error and the person I’m apologizing to (or dog or cat) suffered for my error. however, an apology which includes “to those I have offended” is a non- apology done for cowardly motivations – essentially a rationale (or get out of jail free card) for bad behavior. golden rule. but also, what goes around comes around.

Arno

November 20th, 2012
4:50 pm

Somebody– MR could improve on selling the playaction pass IMO. Better job of that could also help the running game.

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
4:51 pm

TB is a highly competitive opponent. We need to get QB pressure. IF JJ is out, it could be a tough game.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 20th, 2012
4:51 pm

SP, where do you come up with this stuff?!?! LOL…

JJ

November 20th, 2012
4:56 pm

Paddy O, Not to rehash last night but anyone who genuinely wants to be part of the cage has to understand its a family of fans who are fanatical about our falcons. All opinions are just that opinions, not facts…except D3 losing this weekend!!! ;)

Big Lou

November 20th, 2012
4:59 pm

I already linked an article saying spoon will most likely play Sunday.

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
4:59 pm

“SP, lame my friend, come on…thats not worthy from you!!! lol” – JJ

You could listen here ( http://www.790thezone.com/podcasts/Episodes.aspx?PID=2611 ) and draw your own conclusions since my parrot is too lame for your tastes.

JJ

November 20th, 2012
5:05 pm

Love the parrot, but the coffee/beer nasal intake was nil this time.

BR, my bad, just got in and havent caught up yet. Wanted to chime in before our brother from the great north left….which brings me back to our fav parrot. SP, how bout a 12 days of christmas, with a falcons and canadian slant…forgot who did it, was it SnL?

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
5:05 pm

Nookah ,

There are few options with Turner on the field. Run between the Tackles, or pick up pass protection. That’s about it. Throwing to him is a RISK. Running a sweep sometimes works…sometimes goes badly.

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
5:06 pm

Nookah,

As for the OL vs. Turner…it’s both.

JJ

November 20th, 2012
5:09 pm

SP, a homework assign, no one could do it better…youve got a month to master it, if your even interested but you know you and BR our the best comic relief in the cage. WR used to be good as well but hes tending to the new wife this yr!

E43

November 20th, 2012
5:14 pm

Big Ray- My reasoning for the falcons problems on the ground have nothing to do with our running backs. I always have thought that all three are pretty much the same guy on the ground +-. I just feel like the coaching staff is putting too much of the blame on the players and not doing enough to fix it. I believe that its the pass happy nature that is killing the run game. The emphasis on power running just isn’t there. When I hear coach Smith talk about fixing it, I hear finesse blocking. I dont hear power run game. I just don’t want to believe that the entire team just forgot how to pick up 1 yard. At some point, there has to be some mathematics involved.

Turner had 15 caries. Rodgers had 5 and howling had 22. Ariz was 0-5 on third down at some point and had 7 first downs all game. Rodgers got 5 receptions for 35 yards. One of his catches was 17 yards bringing his average to 7yp. Both teams had 16 3rd downs. Statistically, once the Falcons ran the ball you could forget about a consecutive touch by a RB. Those stretches without them touching the ball is what I think is killing them. They tried to get Rodgers some touches after halftime but it was a little too late. They really weren’t going to surprise anyone. Roddy and Gonzalez touches will just have to be reduced if they want to run the ball. Flair passes also need to be removed. If not then more people are just going to have to contribute in the passing game.

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
5:14 pm

Slant Pattern

November 20th, 2012
5:22 pm

“SP, how bout a 12 days of christmas, with a falcons and canadian slant…forgot who did it, was it SnL?” – JJ

I believe that would be Bob and Doug McKenzie ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32CwrOZVobo )off the top of me warped and twisted head. Let me drink some Beer-Nog and think about it before telling yall hosers to take off eh. If thats not right I’ll find something lol.

Arno

November 20th, 2012
7:46 pm

How do you like this headline from the Falcons website?! “Falcons Get Job Done on the Ground.” Quote: “That shows that (offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter) has confidence in his guys,” McClure said. “He’s got confidence in us up front. He’s got confidence in Mike running the ball. We just got it in. It was about will (Sunday) and we got it in when we needed it.” As much a Cagers lament Turner/O line tactics, the folks at Flowery Branch only talk of better execution.
BUT–
That fake toss to Julio, and the shuffle pass to Snelling were things of beauty. I know the Falcons have it in them to be more creative/deceptive. Ryan will not be put up for the Oscar any time soon, but I would like to see him continue better work on fakes. Maybe we can get Samuel L. Jackson off the Rise Up adverts and help Matt in acting class.

Unca' Bob

November 20th, 2012
7:57 pm

I sure have missed the no-huddle, Is it just me?

Going out on a limb here, MT33 is not the problem that we can’t run the ball.

falcon21

November 20th, 2012
8:13 pm

I agree UB on the no-huddle and the running game. MT has slowed down, we all see it but they are bigger problems. I think we have 3 quicker RB’s that can hit the hole faster, problem is they don’t have a hole to hit.

Wabe

November 20th, 2012
8:19 pm

E43,

This line ain’t built for the power running game you’re referencing. The way these guys have struggled to pick up short yardage points to the line’s inability to get the slightest push to get us a yard or two, so that throws any power running capabilities out the window.

They need to be more creative to find holes for the backs. More spread formations, more shotgun runs, whatever. But, pretty much tipping our hand and expecting this line to run over anybody is a shows a serious lapse in judgement on the coaching staffs behalf.

Wabe

November 20th, 2012
8:20 pm

And what up Nookah. Long time man. Good to see you in here.

Ken Strickland

November 20th, 2012
8:36 pm

What’s up NOOKAH? Glad to have you back. While we’ve been disecting the cause of our almost nonexistant rushing OFF, we’ve failed to give our DEF the credit it deserves for overcoming all of those turnovers and poor field position our OFF continuously put them in. Everyone of the sacks we got had an impact on the outcome of the gm. One sack certainly prevented a certain FG or TD.

I do know that playing an extra CB instead of a MLB definitely has an impact of our run DEF, but it doesn’t account for the outside runs. Has anyone else noticed how well CBs DFranks and COwens are doing in the nickel CB position under Nolan? We struggled for 4yrs trying to find a CB to play the position. Yet now we have the same 2 CBs who failed before doing very well at the position.

I wonder what prompted DE REdwards to react the way he did after being asked to attend a meeting? I’m sure his reduced snaps had something to do with it, but he had to know his production hasn’t been up to par.

JB Falcon

November 20th, 2012
8:36 pm

UB, 21, after all this OL discussion and McClure saying it ain’t all them and all the blaming MT the opinion in my little hidey cave is that it is both, so what? We don’t have a running game because we sacrificed a lot of picks to get JJ in order to become a passing team. No problem there, in my little cave, since passing makes us more explosive, and we have proved it is working. The last three SB winners have been weak on one side or the other.
We’re 9-1 using our powerful passing game, when we’re healthy, and it is working. To make up for our running game at this time is to use different plays other than MT up the middle. We’ll work on improving our running game next year so why not use what we currently do our best and make the most of it? NO won their SB by the skin of their teeth and I am perfectly willing to win one on anything thinner than that.

D3

November 20th, 2012
8:42 pm

Arno — Good point. We’ve seen a few times some creative type running designs, it’s just that all we’ve seen lately is power running garbage.

OL vs. Turner — I have to agree with Somebody on this one. We all know that our OL is weak, but we’ve known that forever now and Smitty and Co. refused to change one single thing about this OL and we’re reaping the benefits of it. For all the talk of the “open competition” it was a ruse pretty much plain and simple. And also remember, that The Konz didn’t finally get his starting spot until Reynolds got hurt. So likely, there was no plan to even put him in. I think what many of us are saying is that we have to finally play to our strengths, open the passing game, loosen the defense, and let Quizz / Snelling / A-Smith run in those newly opened creases. You don’t have to have a power run game in the traditional sense, like in the days of yore.

And make no mistake, I am not absolving this offensive line one bit, but the coaching staff doesn’t see fit to try ANYTHING DIFFERENT, so there’s really not much to discuss. Regarding Turner, I’ll just have to respectfully disagree with some of you on this one. It is very true that there’s not much in the way of holes to run through, but Quizz does way more with the same OL as Turner does. Every once in a while Turner will run like the Burner of old, but that’s few and far between. It’s so bad that even my wife and mother were dogging Turner for his “tip-toeing” in the backfield. He doesn’t run with authority the way he used to and that IS ON HIM. We can talk about the chicken v. egg argument all night long regarding the OL vs. Turner, but seeing Turner, he does NOT run hard anymore. Someone made a comment about him seeming lackadaisical and not really caring. I’ve thought that before too.Bottom line is, this is a new offense, a new day, and Turner simply doesn’t fit in this scheme AND he’s just not the same. There really is something to that “30 age wall” for RBs. If it got Ladanian Tomlinson, it is surely getting Turner. Also, look how much the Falcons have overworked Turner since he got here. Much of it is not a smash against Turner himself, but rather an observation of the current situation.

Big Ray — Fair enough. There’s something I just don’t like about the guy, but he’s lost his share of crappy games too. And for all the domination that the Saints have done in the regular season, he’s also gotten bounced the last two years in the first round. One by the lowly Seahawks and the other making Alex Smith look like Tom Brady. And, oh yeah, they cheated too. I guess what I’m saying is, just having an aggressive coach like Harbaugh (who also is an @-hole) doesn’t guarantee Super Bowl success any more than another guy like Coughlin or Mike McCarthy, or even Tony Dungy for that matter.

D3

November 20th, 2012
8:46 pm

JB — Great point. When you give up that many potential OL / DL picks for JJ, you better go use that new strength you’ve developed. Would love to see us move into a Packers type of offense where you’re seeing 4-5 receivers open up that defense and let little Quizz and A-Smith run through those newly formed openings. Can’t for the life of me figure out why HD has performed better. Maybe I’m just biased and always thought he was better than he really was, but even with Koetter, he’s not doing as great as I had hoped. Would like to see more Drew Davis and even speedster Kevin Cone, not to mention our little shifty Tim Toone we re-signed.

JB Falcon

November 20th, 2012
8:48 pm

D3, I think you and I are supposed to hold little fingers now and make a wish. We said the same thing.

falcon21

November 20th, 2012
8:50 pm

I wish I could agree with you JB but this o-line cannot hold up against a good D-line long enough to make that happen. I hope you are right but the way we struggle against weaker teams kinda concerns me.

falcon21

November 20th, 2012
9:00 pm

I hope I am wrong and just bitching in the wind but we will find out in the playoffs.

Paddy O

November 20th, 2012
9:03 pm

I’m liking the pass first ethos. I’d prefer we do more of it with more agile RB’s – who can either run or get flared outside. We’ve got the team and I don’t think any team has the defensive talent to stop RW, JJ and Tony G – and, last 2 games, HD has been contributing.

D3

November 20th, 2012
9:04 pm

falcon21 — A few questions regarding the OL. 1) What would you do right now to fix the OL, or is there simply not enough talent there?…. 2) What would you do in the off-season to fix the OL once and for all? I would love to see our first two picks go for a big boy DT and best available guard, even though I really hope we take an RB high also.

JB Falcon

November 20th, 2012
9:09 pm

21, I get it but have no other alternatives to offer. I remember last year’s playoff against the Giants when their DL line creamed us. The team decided to go with passing, ergo JJ, and knew that the running game/OL would suffer. We just have to be better at what we elected to do. Wabe offered some alternatives relating to getting better at the passing game and that’s all we can do.

waynester

November 20th, 2012
9:14 pm

D3
You’ve got the 64,000 dollar question there(extremely dated reference)…..
HCMS will stay with a vet who’s not playing great over a rookie with potential every time–so I don’t see us making any moves barring injury…..

D3

November 20th, 2012
9:15 pm

Ridiculously too early, irresponsible off-season plan…………….

Sign DE Michael Johnson in free agency

1st) Big Boy DT, 315+
2nd) Best Available OL, preferably G, due to better value
3rd) RB
4th) LB
5th) TE
6th) CB
7th) Best available

Cut Turner, let Grimes walk, try and convince Gonzo to come back for one more. Re-sign Willy Mo, Sam Baker to a dirt cheap contract, and a handful of others.

falcon21

November 20th, 2012
9:17 pm

D3, I would put the big boy Holmes in now but it should have been done weeks ago. I agree with DT, Guard and RB. This team does just enough to win against the weaker teams. We will not see any weak teams in the playoffs and we almost have the playoffs sewed up. Anyway, we have 6 games left, if we make a change on the o-line we need to do it now.

Geo

November 20th, 2012
9:19 pm

If I’m not mistaken, Ryan took us down for an important field goal before the half and Ryan accounted for all but about five yards on the touchdown drive. So, yeah, JB, passing game. (and Snelling and Quizz)

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 20th, 2012
9:28 pm

21, with all due respect. If you’re hoping for changes on the OL, they’ll have to be in your dreams tonight. Smith will not make any changes on either side of the ball unless there’s an injury involved. The man (Smith) is a creature of habit.

falcon21

November 20th, 2012
9:29 pm

JB, I know we gotta do with what we have to do it with and agree to a point. I just see more that we could or should have done. I guess I just don’t understand Smiths coaching style. Anyway, I’m not griping at you Cagers.

falcon21

November 20th, 2012
9:33 pm

Yeah I know Truth, no problem with your comment at all.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 20th, 2012
9:43 pm

Something incredible was revealed to me when Smith admitted why he didn’t go for the 2 pt conversion in the 4th quarter against the Saints. I think he refered to the 7 min 4th quater rule for not going for 2 pts? if we sit back and wonder why Smith choose to let off the gas when we have a two TD lead in the 3rd/4th quarters, it’s because he coaches based on the law of averages and statistics. IMHO

Geo

November 20th, 2012
9:46 pm

SOMEBODY: exactly. Boring. For fans and players.

falcon21

November 20th, 2012
9:49 pm

Enjoyed Cagers, all of you gave damn good points. Later y’all.

JB Falcon

November 20th, 2012
9:49 pm

I’m checkin’ out ya’ll and have enjoyed the convo’s. Anybody miss Mother Blank? This is the blog that makes my day!

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
9:57 pm

JB Falcon

November 20th, 2012
10:00 pm

Somebody, that is EXACTLY why I have creeping doubts about our team. The rules; the laws; the averages SUCK. They are there to be broken by teams that are willing to believe that the rules are set by “average” which means if you want to be average you will be average. I’m out.

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
10:01 pm

Paddy O ,

.357.38 is a great choice. So is the Ruger GP100. Mine is a blued 4″ version. I like Hornady Critical Defense for my lightweight magnum load (1500 fps) and Independence 158 grain Jacketed Soft Points for my heavy magnum load.

I don’t bother with .38 specials for anti-personnel unless my wife is shooting/handling the gun. But that’s just me.

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
10:03 pm

D3 ,

I get your point. Again, not calling myself a fan of Harbaugh…just acknowledging some things he and other aggressive coaches have done. Name the last non-aggressive coach who won a SB….just sayin’….

And there is this also – aggression doesn’t mean you have to be a peckerhead. There are different types/methods of aggression. Case in point – Tom Coughlin repeatedly running the ball in the postseason last year even though his team was bad at it during the regular season. I’d say it paid off…

Big Ray

November 20th, 2012
10:06 pm

F21 ,

I think we ALL hope that we are griping and moaning in the wind and out of season.

The person who hopes to be right more than they hope the team wins…THAT is a non-fan. Can’t say that I know of anybody like that in here, though. We all would rather be wrong as hell and have the team make it to the top of the mountain.

Geo

November 20th, 2012
10:14 pm

Suggestion for Cage gathering: Moe’s and Joe’s in Va. High. Just throwin that out there….

snacktastic

November 20th, 2012
10:54 pm

Geo: That’s a short walk from my apartment. I’d gladly show up to meet the distinguished Cage folk.

E43

November 20th, 2012
10:58 pm

Wabe- The Falcons scheming is and has been hiding a lot of things about the oline. One thing that stays constant is that the passing game is not fixable and does not need fixing. That is despite Matt Ryan taking vicious hits.

Geo

November 20th, 2012
11:21 pm

Snack, cool. I’d be up for trying to make it this Sunday, the Panthers game on Dec. 9 or the Detroit game on Dec. 22. New Orleans is on a school night, so would be tough, and I’ll be at the Giants game.

Geo

November 20th, 2012
11:25 pm

Tampa Bay on Dec. 30 is my anniversary.

snacktastic

November 20th, 2012
11:41 pm

Geo: Any of those dates work for me, but I’d suggest 12/9 so more people can potentially show up. Some Cagers might be traveling around the other dates.

Big Lou

November 21st, 2012
1:36 am

I’m good for Feb. at the Saints some when they reach the Superbowl. ;)

I know, one can still hope!

Zoomie

November 21st, 2012
8:56 am

” I think what many of us are saying is that we have to finally play to our strengths, open the passing game, loosen the defense, and let Quizz / Snelling / A-Smith run in those newly opened creases. You don’t have to have a power run game in the traditional sense, like in the days of yore.” — D3

This is a really good summary of what I’ve tried to comunicate here. I think we all love the new emphasis on the passing game,but it must have some semblance of a run game to consistently be effective. I think a lot of contributors to this forum believe we should use the arrows in our quiver instead of trying to fake the opposition into believing we have a Howitzer.

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
9:03 am

E43 ,

Oh, I’m sure there is some math involved and I do believe that coaching is ultimately responsible for some of the run game problems.

As for taking the ball out of our most productive receiver’s hands to improve the run game….uhhh….

No. I disagree vehemently because of what I have seen other RBs do with limited touches.

Look no further than the game against the Saints. Ivory got 72 yards on 7 carries. Yes, I know he broke a 56 yarder on us, which means he only had 16 yards on the other 6 carries. Doesn’t matter, because he broke a big one out of 7 carries. That big run is the threat that the defense has to worry about. Then you have Mark Ingram who ground his way to 67 yards on 16 carries for a 4.2 yard per carry average. THAT, my friend, is effective running.

Then you look at our guys in the same game.

Rodgers had 29 yards on 3 carries, one of those was an 18 yard run. There again, the threat run that makes a defense think.

Turner – 13 carries, 15 yards. His longest run a 9 yarder.

Brees threw 32 passes. Ryan threw 52. The difference? The Saints could afford to run because they could do so effectively and because they got the lead at one point.

The Falcons had to pass more because they couldn’t run, and then eventually couldn’t afford to run the ball because they were behind.

I still agree that some coaching issues are there. I don’t know about finesse blocking vs. power blocking because I’ve never believed we were a power running team. I do know that losing Harvey Dahl and an aging Todd Mcclure, along with an inept Tyson Clabo have contributed to a rotten running game.

But Turner is averaging just a few carries less per game than he was last season. Passing more has helped this offense score more when it executes properly. Nobody is going deep into the playoffs with a power running game. Nobody.

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
9:07 am

Zoomie ,

We don’t have the hogs to support a power running game, much less enforce our will on other teams thusly. We do have some guys who can hold up in the passing attack most of the time.

This was a point Slant Pattern tried to make during the offseason (Turner doesn’t fit the offense so well when more of an emphasis is on the passing attack).

We could get a lot more out of guys who can catch the ball out of the backfield or even on draw plays. The hated Saints have done it for years.

We need to gash defenses, not run them over…again, lacking the beef to run anybody over.

Well said, “use the arrows in our quiver”….

LRD

November 21st, 2012
10:41 am

Lets see .. the Niners go into NOLA this weekend and beat up the saints and we go to tampa and give up 145yrds on the ground and lose by 3.
So we have 2 really ticked teams facing off on a short week in Our House.
And that will the biggest test for us this year….
Can we get over a division loss to Tampa.. and then insure we do not give up another one to the dreaded sAINTS? And as confident as I am in the falcons, I have a bad feeling about this sunday

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
10:44 am

LRD ,

The bad vibes ain’t helpin’ man….LOL

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
10:45 am

We have what it takes. We don’t need to lose ANY division games, and this Sunday is a critical one. It will partially define what this team is going to be capable of doing.

DePlane

November 21st, 2012
10:57 am

Yastinkas giving all the love to Freeman and the Bucs. What a homer.

DePlane

November 21st, 2012
10:58 am

LRD, you’re giving up before the game is played? C’mon man!

LRD

November 21st, 2012
11:00 am

Guys.. not giving up.. just trying to analyze…

Arno

November 21st, 2012
11:20 am

We can’t underestimate the lift we gave the Saints by going up 10 rather than 14 points. And the lift we gave the Cardinals by that first INT. Those teams were desperate for a win and we helped them believe they could get it. Bucs are looking for a signature win. Falcons do not need to give them any extra inspiration. I’m looking for the Falcons to bring NO party favors.

D3

November 21st, 2012
11:29 am

Regarding this Sunday, I wouldn’t call my feelings as much nervous as I would anxious. The fact is this: yes, we could possibly absorb a loss to the Bucs on Sunday, but can we really expect to win in the playoffs when we can’t even beat a playoff-fringe team, much less a higher ranked playoff team?

I kind of thought we’d lose in NO, just because for no other reason, but I fully expect to win Sunday in Tampa Bay. If we lose, my expectations for the post-season will surely take an enormous hit. One reason for that is the fact that we have the hardest part of our schedule coming up. A near loss to the hated sAINTS on the road is one thing, but this is a very young team with a first year head coach straight from college. If we can’t beat this type of team now, what makes us think we can beat them in a month in a half?

Season defining game on Sunday, IMO.

LRD

November 21st, 2012
11:29 am

My vision..we lose to the bucs, and then we do not lose another game until next years pre-season.
That is what I honestly think can happen.

D3

November 21st, 2012
11:37 am

On another note, it would be really nice to get pressure on a quality QB on Sunday. I don’t really count the Cardinals rookie QB because of the very fact that it was his first NFL experience on a generally weak offense. If you think about it, we haven’t really gotten good pressure on higher level QBs as of late.

I was sorely disappointed that we didn’t hardly get even as much as a glove on Brees against the sAINTS a few weeks ago. I can’t understand the belief of letting an elite QB like Brees simply sit back there and pick you a part. Yes, it’s a risk of trying to put pressure on a guy like that and getting burned deep, but it’s not an “if” situation if you give the guy time, he’s going to beat you. Don’t care if you’re playing Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees, if they have time they’re going to beat you………period. They may end up beating you anyway, but at least putting pressure on them gives you a chance. This isn’t to say that we should be blitzing 9 guys on every play, but you have to pressure good QBs or you’re going to get beat. I felt like we were getting pretty good pressure on some of the QBs early in the year (Manning, Rivers, Cassel, RG3), but we haven’t since. It’s understandable you don’t want to blitz guys like Vick and Romo too much who can scramble, but Brees NEVER scrambles.

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
11:38 am

By Unca Bob

Matty Bicep

November 19th, 2012
4:03 pm
13) How big is the Bucs game on Sunday?

Not huge, the NO and Giants, and maybe the 2nd TB games loom larger. It is feel good game, not a must have.

You are an absolute idiot. Please understand D3, I am being as respectful as I can possibly be. Some deserve no respect. Myself included.

————————
Funny, when I suggested that this game was not all that important, this was the response I got from an Esteemed” cage member. Funny how name calling IS tolerated in the cage after all. Although, I never called any specific game member a name.

Last line typo is funny thought. Freudian?

Actually, I never violated any terms of use. I could respect peoples wishes if it was a private blog, but it is on the AJC website, so I have not gone anywhere.

Wabe

November 21st, 2012
11:41 am

The Bucs are pretty awful when it comes to pass defense, so I fully expect the Falcons to carve up that Bucs secondary on Sunday…

Thought came to mind yesterday about the playoff picture. The Packers are sitting at 7-3 right now, and this being despite all of the injuries they’ve suffered. Losing C.Benson for the season, Gregg Jennings being out for most of the season thus far, and Jordy Nelson being out the past 2-3 weeks. They’re still rollin, winning 5 of 6 straight.

It just speaks to the greatness of Aaron Rodgers. The only reason I mention this is simple. Guys like Rodgers, Brady, Brees, P.Manning, these guys find ways to make even the most average supporting cast look brilliant. I know most of these guys are surrounded by talent, but those offenses don’t going into a shell when one guy is missing. Whereas with us, we’ve noticed somewhat of a dropoff whenever J.Jones isn’t on the field. I don’t like that. That doesn’t bode well. Other guys have to get into the mix, and Ryan has to make these guys viable options. That’s the only way that this offense as a whole will take it up another notch. That’s if we get multiple threats going.

For whatever reason, our offense has great players, and doesn’t really look ‘high-octane’ or great. They look good/solid. The reason this team reminds me of teams in the past is because of this: we’ve had games over the years where our offense is a complete dud, but our defense picks up the slack [kinda like this past weekend]. And then we’ve had games these past couple seasons where our offense is scoring at will, but our defense can’t stop a lick. Both sides of the ball have carried the team in various weeks. It may sound good to someone who doesn’t watch, but, truth is, every team has something they can lean on.

We’ve went over it a hundred times. But, every team has a side of the ball they can depend on and they know going into a game that it’ll show up. 9 times out of 10, the Packers, Saints, Patriots, etc. offenses will show up to the game. They may be somewhat slowed, but they’ll never come to a screeching halt the way we saw with us this past weekend. Teams like the Niners, Steelers, Bears [despite what happened this past Monday night], have defenses they can lean on. Those teams can go into games expecting their defense to show up regardless of the circumstances.

The Falcons have been up and down on both sides. That, IMO, is eerily similar to the teams we’ve fielded in the past. Very up and down on both sides. You can say we’re balanced. But, this team needs to be ‘dominant’ offensively going into the playoffs for us to stand a chance to accomplish our goals. Can’t be short of that.

D3

November 21st, 2012
11:41 am

LRD — I get the opposite feeling if we lose on Sunday (just the nervous nellie in me). If we lose on Sunday, losing 2 out of our last 3 against division opponents, we go into a tailspin at exactly the worst time imaginable. After Sunday, we have the sAINTS in a few days, @ Panthers (not an easy out despite their record), the Giants, @ the Lions (same as Panthers), and home to the Bucs. I kind of go into this game with the feeling I had in the off-season: STOP TALKING ABOUT IT AND PROVE IT! A win here puts us with a 4 game lead with 5 games to go and also puts us an excellent favorite to wrap up the #1 seed. A loss here with the hated sAINTS only a few days later makes this fan one very nervous and shaky fan. Want to meet up for the sAINTS game?

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
11:44 am

Okay, I got another scenerio, an accident victim with no legs and only one arm left which he exercises all day long, hence the name? Nah, I don’t even believe that myself.
I always run my posts by my better half since she is Falcon fan #2 in this house and she said not to post this, but, I’m not really right in the head

JB, I am afraid this post says a lot more about you than is does I. You outta listen to your wife.

Really D3, you allow this stuff on your respectful blog?

For the record, all I did was call our D3s negativity for bringing up a probably 6 game collapse because of our WIN we got Sunday, and questioned whether the fans deserve a winner. And when I look at the vitriol, hatred, and just bazaar stuff that is said, it sorta makes me think I just might be onto something.

For I have the gall to say if we play a football game, we have a chance to win it, regardless of the outcome of our previous game.

It is rather silly.

Wabe

November 21st, 2012
11:49 am

So far this season, the Raiders, Redskins, Cowboys, and Cardinals have all slowed our offense down.

We did rack up 450+ yards of offense on the Cowboys, but with very little to show for it on the scoreboard. We scored 19 points. 450 yards of offense shouldn’t equate to 19 points.

It’s tough to make a case that we can score points against the best of them, IE – defenses like the Niners or Giants, when we’ve shown a tendancy to be slowed down by a lot of lesser teams we’ve played this season. Again, yeah, we did well enough to win those games, but, it doesn’t bode well for us when we run into some of the top teams in the league in the playoffs. If it was just a 2-3 week thing, fine. But, we’ve seen it pop up at different points in the season. We went nuts in our 1st three games this season offensively. But, since then, we’ve consistently had ‘dud’ games offensively.

This team really needs to take it to another gear offensively. That’s my sole focus moving forward. The Falcons will go as far as the offense takes them, and the offense will go as far as Matt Ryan takes them, and Ryan will only go as far as the O-Line allows him to take us.

Going forward, I want to see the Falcons playing a brand of football that allows us to say that we could’ve beat any team in the league the way we played. Period. Regular season games are starting to dwindle. It’s time to start catching another gear.

That’s what I’ll be looking for from here on out. Are we playing good enough football to beat anybody in the league, not just the team in front of us.

Arno

November 21st, 2012
11:50 am

Smith is telling his guys that this is the first game of the rest of the season. It WILL set the tone. I agree with D3.

Paddy O

November 21st, 2012
11:52 am

heck, if you don’t think mike turner – who is LESS than 1 dimensional, is NOT part of our problem, your head is either in the sand our deep up your bowels!!

D3

November 21st, 2012
11:53 am

Guys like Rodgers, Brady, Brees, P.Manning, these guys find ways to make even the most average supporting cast look brilliant. I know most of these guys are surrounded by talent, but those offenses don’t going into a shell when one guy is missing. Whereas with us, we’ve noticed somewhat of a dropoff whenever J.Jones isn’t on the field. I don’t like that. That doesn’t bode well. Other guys have to get into the mix, and Ryan has to make these guys viable options. — Wabe

Agree 100% wholeheartedly. I think this is because our coaches, mainly Smitty, just will not turn over the reigns and allow the offense to be what these other offense are. They not only have accepted that they are a pass-first offense, but they thrive on it. They don’t fight it, as with what Smitty seems to do. Perhaps this is the great “disconnect” that SW has been talking about for a long time. TD seems to be building this offense in the mold of the wide-open offenses and Smitty simply refuses to fully let go of his ball-control obsession. Notice how GD awesome our offense looks when Ryan goes no-huddle typically with some short of 3 WR/1 TE/1 RB or 4 WR/1 RB, or some type of spread-like offense.

Speaking of Ryan, this seems to be something that continues to be a part of his DNA. Have you noticed that when Ryan gets off to a really good rhythmic start, how awesome his day ends of being? There are a ton of examples, but just take the sAINTS game. Long pass to Roddy to start the game, ends up with a career day.

Flip around to the opposite. First play from scrimmage is intercepted (mostly his fault, but Roddy could have caught it) and he starts off poorly, he ends up with a career worst day? I’ve always thought that when Ryan gets some easy and comfortable passes under his belt that he is always so much better, but when he gets off to a bad start (many times through the TWP’s (Turner Wasted Plays)), he ends up struggling all game. Would love to see some Tim Toone working the inside slot some this game, because HD is mostly non-existent most times.

Paddy O

November 21st, 2012
12:02 pm

BR: I’ve got a number of GP100 – started out with a Ruger Blackhawk, but could not stand the slow reload of single actions. I’ve got 4″ in the car; but on the range usually take a pair of 5.5″ – however, I prefer the SS; now, with the revolvers, I usually use 38 special – cheaper and less noise impact; but the Henry big boy, I use 357 exclusively now – as you know, the 38’s have smaller brass, and unless you can see the seat it is tough to determine if you’ve cleaned it adequately. My first Ruger was a 44 mag Super Redhawk – and that gun most likely would cease violence except in the case of dealing with psychos – it is that intimidating “staring straight down 44″ – is not a joke. I’ve also got a pair of bandoliers that allow me to almost get up to a combat load. I hope I never really need them, though!

Paddy O

November 21st, 2012
12:05 pm

somebody said a lot of folks don’t like Tom Coughlin – which I don’t relate to – unless your the biggest loser Tiki Barber. Coughlin did a nice job with the expansion team, and has the Giants playing great football come post season. and, coughlin will get fired up if his team or the refs are screwing up. compare him to the bombastic Rex Ryan with the Jets.

Paddy O

November 21st, 2012
12:13 pm

Irregardless of mommy blank, I consider this TB game to be essential. If we win and NO loses, we pretty much seal up the division. If the opposite occurs, we have a fire fight the rest of the year. Personally, I suspect the TB wins against lesser opponents does indicate that they are not as good as they appear to be. But, with a new coach and some tremendous momentum, precisely who they are is not at this point ascertained. However, I will say the the KC chiefs suck donkey.

Arno

November 21st, 2012
12:14 pm

Other guys have to get into the mix, and Ryan has to make these guys viable options. — Wabe

M. Johnson
D. Davis

Not sure I understand your point, unless you are saying Ryan needs to build on it.

Slant Pattern

November 21st, 2012
12:19 pm

“somebody said a lot of folks don’t like Tom Coughlin – which I don’t relate to” – Paddy O

They are probaly refering to the fans that have continud to call for his head even after the SuperBowl wins. Both Coughlin and Mini-Manning have taken alot of criticism from their fanbase before winning the big one and oddly enough still get calls for their firing. People say the mini-Manning is elite and all that blah blah but in reality he is not very consistent. The Vagiants lose alot of games maybe they shouldn’t because their style offense seems based as much on luck as anything else because it surely isn’t a conservative/ consistency based as say Smitty’s. This let Manning spray and pray works in big games it seems…call it luck or whatever you will but they got rings. People will complain when your conservative and they will complain when you throw caution to the wind…seems the deal is to know when and if it works for your team.

D3

November 21st, 2012
12:24 pm

Paddy — I like Coughlin and in no way think he’s a prick like baby Harbaugh. I think what BR was referring to was the fact that early on, a lot of players didn’t care for him

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
12:30 pm

Paddy, TB important for it is our next game, and as you point out, can all but seal the division. I don’t mean to downplay it, but D3 put a question up, I answered it rationally and was personally attacked and called a name. WTF.

Regardless, I never expect smooth sailing all season long, but until the rough seas sink the ship, you have a chance to find land.

darrell starks

November 21st, 2012
12:30 pm

Falcons have not done the no huddle pass 3 games why ?

When Falcons are doing the no huddle the running game is better and Matt Ryan passing game is more efficient, let Matt just do his thing and run the fast pace offense and this team will flow better specially in running game, Turner need more scream plays to get him rolling also.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
12:36 pm

I also like Coughlin, as I have pointed out, he was stubborn and never quit his belief that he must run the ball despite not being about to all season. Yet, he ran the ball to a trophy.

Look, I am of the philosophy that there is one say to skin a cat. i also believe that you choose a philosophy and stick with it. Changing schemes and whatnot mid stream rarely leads to success. Sure, you can tweek it, and massage it, and set up transitions, but change based on panic is rarely successful.

darrell starks

November 21st, 2012
12:40 pm

Falcons sleeper waiting in the wing.

Just like they found Robert Mcclain there are 3 players will make and immediately impact this year if given a chance.

Travian Robertson, Cliff Mathews, Lamar Holmes.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paddy O

November 21st, 2012
12:43 pm

The TB game is one of the tougher ones to anticipate. I was happy with our play against Philly & Dallas. Our play against NO was not bad. AZ did the same thing as Carolina. WE MUST have stout G to G blocking – and any of our 3 RB’s can block – although Quizz can get freight trained. To me, you want to win early than coast. Falcons 33, TB 28. However, if we get bad rushing stoppage and no QB pressure, we’ve got problems. Now, Nolan has predominantly fixed our 3rd down conversion problems.

Big Lou

November 21st, 2012
12:45 pm

Don’t take the bait!

I anxiously await the injury report.

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
12:48 pm

I agree, the TB game will be a dog fight. I do agree that our problems in the running game might be more of our stop the pass scheme that we have to adjust. In this case, I think we need to make Josh Freeman prove he can beat us.

Unca' Bob

November 21st, 2012
12:59 pm

Some of worst games have been against teams coming off of a bye week. Carolina, Oakland, and Zona. The Eagle game we both had byes.

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
1:09 pm

No just teams coming off bye weeks, teams coming off bye weeks fighting for their lives and their seasons seemingly on the line, when we were in the drivers seat.

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
1:16 pm

Every bye week game we played was against teams coming off byes, trying to get to that .500 mark, thinking this could be the turn around game. We have been somewhat “lucky”, but really, it goes back to Ryan and our 2 minute offense.

Even as bad as he played Sunday, he got us a much needed 3 with only 30 seconds. That is was seems to separate us from other teams…..Also would be interested in the thought on the Bronkowski thing.

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
1:28 pm

“but when he gets off to a bad start (many times through the TWP’s (Turner Wasted Plays)), he ends up struggling all game.”

Gotta call this out. If starting the game handing the ball to Turner gets Matty in a bad rhythm, he pretty much would have never had a good game, for I think every game has started off with a MT33 play.

Yet the ONE time he does NOT start the game off handing it to MT, he has a career worst day. IDK, seems like Ryan is pretty comfortable handing the ball to turner since he has won 70% of his games.

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
1:54 pm

Don’t take the bait!

Thank you, Big Lou. And this bears repeating….

Unca' Bob

November 21st, 2012
2:02 pm

I made a mistake. Carolina was coming off a Thursday night game. Washington had the bye

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
2:15 pm

Wabe ,

Salient point on Matt Ryan making guys around him better. I thought he did that with Harry Douglas a bit in the last game.

I’m with D3 on this one. The minute I feel that he’s been given the reins to this team is the minute I’ll scrutinize his play even more and judge him more harshly. Until then, the only control I see him having (even these days) is when he audibles or when we’re running the no huddle offense.

Sure, the passing game has evolved significantly between the addition of Koetter and the personal evolution of Ryan himself. But there just isn’t that trust element yet, it seems. And the tighter it gets, the less we see it.

I’m sure some would argue that Ryan throwing the ball 50 times in a game is a sign of the offense being handed over to him. Not necessarily so. That just means that more pass plays are being called than before.

I won’t use this phenomena to excuse Ryan’s flaws or his mistakes. But I also think he can’t be as great as the other guys you mentioned without having the full chance to do so. And I honestly don’t know that Smitty will ever get there. He is a guy that works hard off of percentages and time of possession. And he does seem glued to certain precepts.

But we shall see.

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
2:20 pm

I heard some interesting things on sports talk radio today.

Colin Cowherd (who I’m not huge fan of) had Teddy Bruschi on the line.

Bruschi said that when it comes to division games, that first game is all about putting your best foot forward from the coaching staff down to the last guy on the team.

Then he said “But that SECOND game…that’s all coaching. Because you’ve seen the other team’s gameplan, their tendencies. You know what they want to do, what they will do, what they have done. And now you adjust.”

Keep this in mind….because we have played the Saints already and we should see some adjustments from what we did in that game. The first Bucs game is this Sunday. And we already know what Carolina will do against us.

These games are going to tell us something about our CS….not just the players.

Being healthier won’t hurt at all, of course. I’m looking forward to the return of Spoon and hopefully a healthy and confident Julio Jones.

Zoomie

November 21st, 2012
2:31 pm

I’m not that worried about TB. Of course, it’s the NFL and anything can happen, but I just don’t think they bring enough to the table to go head-to-head with a Falcons team that doesn’t shoot themselves in the foot. And since the Birds spent all day Sunday firing while holstered, I think they probably spent all their faulty ammunition.

I believe Nolan can afford to sell out to stop the run. The Falcons secondary can handle everything Tampa can send downfield, and Freeman is just not one of the elites than can take a team on his back. The Falcons have been effective in the past at rattling him, but he’s also one of those “big boys” who’s shaken a defender or two and even carried some a few yards downfield. TB will come to play, but it won’t be enough. Tampa’s riding high on a winning streak, but the Falcons will be their momentum brake this week.

What we’ll see Sunday is a physical game, where TB tries to bully Atlanta, and the Birds will try to do just enough to keep the score in their favor. Ultimately, the Falcons’ D will clamp down on the Bucs’ run game and Freeman won’t be able to pull off enough of those lucky pass plays of his (primarily due to pressure from the Falcons’ D). The Bucs just won’t be able to corral the Falcons’ receiving corps and I think Falcons’ fandom will finally get to enjoy a game without the cardio-pulmonary issues that have accompanied some of the ones from recent past.

I see some are dreading the contest. I think that may just be the lingering taste of vomit from the Cards game; the Falcons will take this one comfortably.

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
2:47 pm

Not sold on Freeman either. Tampa is playing hard nose football, and have a little momentum, but nothing dynamic.

If we can contain the run, take away the deep stuff, and make Freeman read coverages and throw underneath all day, I think he turns it over, I don’t see them putting up a lot of points.

Offensively I don’t really know what to expect. Hopefully we get Turner going………just kidding just kidding.

John Waynesworld

November 21st, 2012
2:47 pm

You’re right though, UB, teams with that extra week to recuperate (and fume) seem to really come out flying, just like we did after ours. I don’t think too many teams could have stopped us that week against Philly. Additionally, the Cards needed that game last week in the worst way and wow, did their defense play like it. I had also made a comment that good teams sometimes play down to the competition, and last week was sort of a combination of us playing down and Arizona playing fiercely desperate. Of course a win is a win, no matter what idiotic ex-players on TV say, for instance that we played horribly but Houston’s win was some kind of brave gut check against a “hungry” team. Yeah, a 1-8 team in the Jags, as opposed to one of the top defenses in the NFL that we had to face. I know it is just a bunch of noise that we have to ignore until January, but it is quite annoying all the same.

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
2:52 pm

No doubt we have the goods. No doubt whatsoever.

I just know that the Bucs are better and more disciplined than they were a year ago. Vincent Jackson is the top threat in the passing game, but as you said…he’s not a guy that just can’t be handled, you just can’t let him do whatever he wants.

That said, we BETTER clamp down on the running game, because that is part of what is making Josh Freeman so good.

Unlike some places I can think of, the Bucs quickly realized that Doug Martin should be the guy in the backfield over the ol’ incumbent LaGarett Blount….and Martin has paid dividends. We can’t let him gash us to death, because if we do…that’s when Freeman comes into play. He doesn’t throw a lot of passes…but when he does, he is pretty effective. So much of that has to do with how effective the Bucs run the ball.

And we all know that is a weakness for us.

I’m not saying we should be scared. I’m saying we CANNOT play against these guys the way we have the last two games. I have no reason to believe that we will play nearly like we did against Arizona. But we also won’t have a great chance of winning if we play like we did against Oakland, Carolina, and New Orleans.

Why?

Make no mistake. Tampa is a top 10 offense. If you’re talking simply about points, they’re tied for 4th in the League in points per game. That’s one spot ahead of us, and I think we can all make this point – our offense is more dangerous from a skill player stand – we have better WRs, better TE, better QB….Yet they are outperforming us. And that’s with a rookie HC…Hmmmmmm…

We can’t decide to start tackling somewhere in the late 2nd quarter or the 2nd half.

Can’t stall scoring drives or end them with field goals 75 percent or more of the time.

Can’t turn the ball over.

Can’t let the run beat us to death.

Thing is, we give up the yards on the ground but don’t often let teams get the score. Gotta keep that up. There is no doubt of whether or not we can do it, it’s all a matter of if we will. Need to take this division and keep it, no questions asked, no arguments.

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
2:56 pm

Zoomie ,

Don’t take that as me arguing with you. I’m just hoping Smitty and his staff have these guys focused and ready to play. Smitty has had such a good record of performance after a loss, but it was almost like everybody was determined to undermine that abstract statistic against Arizona. I saw a LOT of lack of focus, particularly on one side of the ball.

Time to get dialed back in. Smitty is usually pretty darn good about that (I still have some issues with him, though).

Ryan taking a step forward and putting this on his back will also help. He needs to grab the reins…snatch ‘em if he has to. Whatever it takes to show the guys that he is ready for war and plans to lead the charge.

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
2:57 pm

JWW ,

Yeah, the double standard….LOL.

Good points, good to hear from you, it’s been a minute.

Zoomie

November 21st, 2012
3:19 pm

Of course, who am I to prognosticate? I predicted that Nolan would have a surprise for the New Orleans game and, boy, did he! He channeled his inner-BVG and produced a game that convinced me I could’ve been watching a re-run of just about any of the Falcon-Taint match-ups from the last five years.

Yep; I was surprised as hell!

I believe TB is a disciplined, well-coached, and dangerous team. I just believe Spoon will be back, JJ will be feeling better, MR2 will shake out the cobwebs, and the Birds will play a solid game on Sunday and come away with the win.

Then, with the taste of pirate blood fresh on their breath, they’ll be ready to host the hated Taints and their cute little fleur-de-lis, which appropriately represents their lily-livered, swamp-soaked origin, which barely rises above the primordial ooze from which they slither.

(And hopefully, they’ll win this time . . .)

Zoomie

November 21st, 2012
3:28 pm

Oh no, Big Ray, I didn’t take it as arguing. It’s right to point out the opponents’ strengths and record. No team . . . NO TEAM . . . can be overlooked in the NFL.

I mean, look at the trouble that the unflappable Texans, the Righteous Terrors of the AFC, had with the Florida-Coastal Polecats on Sunday.

Talk about a wake-up call . . .

John Waynesworld

November 21st, 2012
3:38 pm

Thanks, Big Ray, and you’re right about Vincent Jackson. He is the one we need to bracket at all times, regardless of their running game success. Despite his occasional brain lapses, Jackson is the guy who can make points happen in a hurry if a DC doesn’t put two men on him at all times.

Make no mistake, this will not be a low scoring affair and both sides will have big stats. In fact, their rookie RB will most likely get 100+ yards and possibly a TD or two and Freeman may even have a 300-yard day. That said, if we keep Jackson out of the end zone, I think we win this game.

30-28 Falcons in a nail biter (and another week of no respect for the victory, lol)

JB Falcon

November 21st, 2012
3:44 pm

JWW, I can live with a 30-28 win. I’d even take 28.1 – 28! I’m just hoping Spoon, JJ, and Asante are able to play. We need to win these division games and they’re not getting any easier.

falcon21

November 21st, 2012
3:50 pm

If our o-line plays better and our D can get a little pressure on Freeman along with Matt Ryan being himself and not Jell George we should win.

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
4:40 pm

JWW ,

I don’t care about the respect part. Talking heads give Eli Manning the “Elite” tag for bringing the Giants back in the last minute after the Bucs damn near took them out. We win 30-28, it’s legit.

Besides, if we score 30 points without the defense scoring any, then you know quite a few things went right. Even if we get points from the defense you know some things went right (on the defensive side of the ball at least). I’d be happy with takeaways against an offense that is putting up over 28 ppg….

Slant Pattern

November 21st, 2012
4:42 pm

“No doubt we have the goods. No doubt whatsoever.
- continued ” – BR

Good stuff BR. You are gonna make me have to work harder to look good at this rate. Tampa is us back in 2010 altho not quite that good or pretty. We need to come to grips with being more like the teams that stomped that template into the ground and leave the old behind. Tampa has no answer to what we can do unless we let them. Let them grind the clock for us on the offensive possessions. We just have to get a lead and keep growing it forcing them into a one dimensional play catch up scenario that effectively eliminates the Mussel Hampster from the field and lets him crawl up where he belongs. Freeman is meh and wilts when put into that position. If Smittyball is in effect then all bets are off and I give us little to no chance.

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
4:51 pm

Zoomie ,

Great humor….LOL.

Yeah, funny how the Texans get all the credit in the world for that, huh? Oh wait, they won a playoff game last year, didn’t they? Instant SB contender credit! :lol:

Big Ray

November 21st, 2012
4:55 pm

SP ,

Thanks and definitely agreed on that last part. Our best games have come with getting an early lead, then expanding it. Grinding shouldn’t go on until we have a decent lead. We started grinding and stalling early against NO, and found out that a 10 point lead is not sufficient to do so against that kind of opponent. Would have worked in Arizona, but that’s because they have a crappy ass offense.

Birdman

November 21st, 2012
5:03 pm

Hello Cage

The Falcons are going against the worst pass D in the NFL this Sunday . Going to be a scary close game I think tho . I think our Birds will bounce back after a horrible win to the Card;s and take care of the Buc;s this week . I hope the Spoon and Jones are in the game but if there not ready please save them for next Thursday night .
Jones and his injuries kinda scare me some tho . That is as far as a players goes

Falcons 34 to 21

Happy Thanksgiving Cage .
I hope you all have a great Blessed Thanksgiving tomorrow. Keep in mind the Blessings we all have received this year. And please keep in Prayer all the brothers and sisters that are less fortunate than us.

GO FALCONS !!!!!!!

E43

November 21st, 2012
5:03 pm

Big Ray- I actually though that the Falcons were leaning less on the receiving core when it matters. I thought that Matt Ryan wasn’t forcing the ball to Roddy White on third down as much. I thought the first downs picked up by Turner, Snelling and Rodgers through the air actually give guys like Douglas more oppportuities. A huge contribution to Ryan’s efficiency in my opinion is some of the screen passes. On the flipside, I dont like Matt Ryan checking into any type of flare pass. That is where I dont like Gonzalez and Roddy especially being utilized. Roddy will catch 112 catches this year. My issue is that some of those are completely unncecessary with guys like Rodgers on the field.

Didn’t Julio Jones get re-injured on one of those flare passes?

Birdman

November 21st, 2012
5:34 pm

Just heard Weatherspoon will play this Sunday. I just hope he is OK to play

JB Falcon

November 21st, 2012
6:16 pm

BM, also:

Defensive tackle Peria Jerry (thigh), wide receiver Julio Jones (right ankle), safety Charles Mitchell (calf) and cornerback Asante Samuel (right shoulder) did not practice.
Defensive end John Abraham (back), defensive tackle/end Jonathan Babineaux (neck), kicker Matt Bryant (kick), wide receiver Kevin Cone (groin), cornerback Christopher Owens (thigh), running back Michael Turner (groin) and defensive tackle Vance Walker (ribs) were all limited.

Got the above from DOL’s blog. I hope none of these guys have any kind of setback. We need to show some strength in the games within our devision.

JB Falcon

November 21st, 2012
6:24 pm

As much as I want all of our players healthy “now” I double clutch my brain and think the most improtant thing is to have them all fully healthy when the playoffs start. We can lose a couple or maybe even three and still get in but I don’t want to limp in with our most important players less than 100%.

Wabe

November 21st, 2012
6:30 pm

Arno,

My thoughts weren’t meant to be a knock on Matt Ryan. The point would really be an indictment on the offense as a whole.

I understand we have RW84, J.Jones, and Tony Gonzalez, so the touches are gonna be limited. I get that. I just think that should make it that much easier for guys like Harry Douglas, or Drew Davis, or anybody else for that matter, to get open and see the ball go their way. For whatever reason, the Falcons offense isn’t explosive.

You can mention Ryan finding Drew Davis, and you’re correct, he found Davis a couple times in that Eagles game, but that’s about it. The Mike Johnson TD was just one play. What I mean by getting others involved in a larger role would be like what the Saints can do with a guy like Lance Moore. Is Lance Moore that much more talented than a guy like HD? But, Moore does find himself playing a pivotal role in the Saints offense. He does get his catches, but he’d be considered what? The 3rd or 4th option on that team behind Graham, Colston, and even Sproles on some days.

Take the Pats as an example. They have plenty of options. They use a guy like Woodhead or Edelman. Edelman went over 100 all purpose yards for them this past Sunday.

The Packers have Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings, Randall Cobb, Jermichael Finley, but a guy like James Jones can still have himself great seasons out there.

My point is, these guys use every bit of the talent they have on the roster. They find these guys. They all contribute. They don’t just look for 2 or 3 guys to carry the load. They trust their scheme, and whoevers the open guy, they’ll get the ball in their hands.

Maybe I’m just micro-analyzing here. I just think there should be no way our offense should be slowed in any way, shape, or form. Even if they’re covering all three of our top options, that should leave guys like HD – Quizz – Drew Davis open to make plays. Either the route combos aren’t where they need to be or Ryan’s locking into only a couple people. I understand he’s gonna look through his progressions. And most plays, RW, JJ, and TG will be his first 3 progressions. But, we need to find ways to use those guys to set up big plays for some of the guys the defenses ain’t expecting to get hit with a big play from [HD/Drew Davis/Quizz].

LeeVancleave

November 21st, 2012
6:45 pm

I dont think that Ryan is the QB LONG-TERM for this team. However, for the short-term, I am of the opinion that Ryan is good enough to lead the Falcons to a superbowl win. In short, that might be good enough. Ryan will never be mistaken for Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, John Ellway, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or Terry Bradshaw, but if Trent Dilfer, Eli Manning or even Ben Rothlisberger can win a superbowl, then I think Ryan can too. It also takes a little luck to get the job done as well. I have seen two Ryans out there playing football. The first Ryan–was the guy who won this past sunday–who is completely clueless about how to play the QB position who threw 5 turnovers and turned the ball over another time. The other Ryan is the QB we have all come to know and love, whose nickname is “Matty Ice” because when Ryan is on and Ice shows up–there is nothing he cant do on a football field. Ryan has increasingly become a Jeckyll and Hyde quarterback–sort of like Mark Sanchez of the Jets, but Ryans skill sets are outstanding and is consistently better than Sanchez. So my view of the Falcons is just watch them with cautious optimism and dont expect them to do anything. If they surprise you and win a superbowl then thats just icing on the cake. Oh incidentally, if ryans team (our Falcons) get to the superbowl game–I think Ryan is good enough to win the game and win it convincingly. Go Falcons–see you in New Orleans in January.

Arno

November 21st, 2012
6:46 pm

Wabe– thanks for the explanation. And I agree: I would love to see more targets for Ryan on a routine basis… except for this: Does he have the time in the pocket that Brees has? We saw what pressure did to Matt at the end of the Saints game. Thus the TD to M. Johnson was designed all the way.

LucasMcCain

November 21st, 2012
6:49 pm

Lee Vancleave: that was the best blog of the day so far. You said it all, you are excited about our Falcons and you didnt leave much doubt that this might be our year. I hope the Falcons win the superbowl AND the Georgia Bulldogs win the BCS National Championship both in the same season. That would be a feat for the ages and its starting to look like its about to happen. Stay tuned!

JJ

November 21st, 2012
6:52 pm

JB, playoffs…playoffs..PLAYOFFS???

I want everyone healthy for next thurs against the most corrupt, evil empire in the nfl. Would love to win against the bucs, panthers and giants…but in reality I only care about one game. If we lose that game, everything else is tarnished…even if we made it back to the piss city in feb…tarnished.

For me, it all boils down to 11-29-12!!!!!!!!!!!

So sit anyone whos not a 110% this week, our game of the yr is in 8 days!!!

JMHO

JJ

November 21st, 2012
6:59 pm

leevancleave, your an idiot if you dont think Ryan is the best qb this franchise has ever had, and only Bartkowski is a distant 2nd. Look at his numbers and compare them to any other qb in there first 5 yrs…like I said, idiot or just not that knowledgeble about qbs in the nfl.

JB Falcon

November 21st, 2012
7:02 pm

Wabe, you idea is interesting and I too believe we could be more explosive with the weapons we have, but, the three teams you mentioned all have one thing that we don’t. Teams that are playing them all have to play them is if they just might try a running play for major yardage. Teams playing the us don’t really have to worry about that so much. Does that idea float or am I also micro-analyzing?

JB Falcon

November 21st, 2012
7:05 pm

JJ, someone once said I owned a tackle shop and threw out a bunch of lures. I don’t but I think you just bit one.

JJ

November 21st, 2012
7:12 pm

Ok, tu chei!

JB Falcon

November 21st, 2012
7:12 pm

JJ, 6:52, LMAO! I feel the same way about the Caints and our goal is to get to “piss City.” :)
Would like nothing better to win the SB in their own house.

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E43

November 21st, 2012
11:24 pm

JB Falcon-Rodgers ran a 4.6 40 the first time at the combine. About the same time Sidbury ran at the combine. The good news is that Rodgers cut down on that time to a 4.47. While that’s much better, I sometimes wonder if he got lucky.40 is just speed and a guy like Hester did damage as a returner despite a remarkable 40. I like to compare Rodgers running style with Hesters.

I think teams dont worry about a major yardage back with the Falcons because they are all catchable. Your depending on Rodger’s nifty moves and Turner’s power to get an extra 2-3yards. Obviously the Falcons decided in the offseason that the problem was with blocking. They went after the beef and Konz is finally getting extended playing time. Ewing got injured and maybe he was the guy they were leaning on to give an advantage in the run game.Im pretty sure he would win the starting FB spot.

Matty Bicep

November 21st, 2012
11:43 pm

I think the biggest problem with the 40 is they don’t run with pads. Some have faster “pad” speed, like Jerry Rice, quizz appears to be slower. If he gets a step, he is prone to stop and let the pursuer get back in front to re-juke him. No way he runs under a 4.5 relative to pads.

I like the guy, and would be interested to see what he could do given the primary RB role, but we need to draft, and call 5-6 UDFA RBs to camp next year. My gut says he is a role player.

Paddy O

November 21st, 2012
11:53 pm

I’d like to chime in on the next draft – as a 4th rate guy, take this with a grain of salt – i’m a bit surprised that a petition to strip me of my draft championship has not been started – Dent! baby; but, I digress – I consider our DT’s to be OK, sort of a plus. I’m leaning toward LB depth being seriously needed – Mike Pete needs to head to the house. I think we can get decent RB in 3, 4 round. PLus, CB in 2nd rd – so, I’m looking at O line and D line in the later rounds. However, if we could get a massive nose guard to really move into the 3-4 – i might do that in 2nd or 3rd round. But, still need a Von Miller type LB.

Matty Bicep

November 22nd, 2012
12:26 am

I lean toward a DT IF it is a true NT that can transition us toward a 3-4. Otherwise, I would like to see a road grader, guards are good value. It appears the Ain’ts DL just have our number, they KNOW they can beat our OL in short yardage, and we need somebody help there.

In addition, for RB, we need a full cattle call, draft one, but bring in ALL the UDFAs as we can to start the post Turner era.

And of course, LBs. But unless they are dynamic, they are like RBs, their value is diminished.

Matty Bicep

November 22nd, 2012
12:38 am

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/lamar-holmes?id=2533450

Also, not totally sold on Holmes. He does not appear to be a good run blocker. He is developing, but it appears his technique in run blocking leaves something to be desired.

BobbyDawg

November 22nd, 2012
6:38 am

Have a safe and happy Thanksgiving everybody and remember all of our guys and gals in the military serving our great country at home and abroad.

darrell starks

November 22nd, 2012
8:24 am

Matty Bicep, That artical is a predraft board, Baker not doing a good job in run blocker either, when will Falcons understand that there is a major issue on OL and try something new, i have seen enough from Lamar Holmes in practice and in preseason games to tell you that Lamar Holmes is a beast, during one pratice i saw Lamar Holmes dominate Abraham and put him on his butt, so are there any issue with Lamar, yes 1 thing he is a rookie but groom him now and let this dude play, he can’t be any worst from what already out there.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

November 22nd, 2012
8:45 am

DT is and another major issue on this team, Peters and Bab are the only 2 solid DT on this team, Travian Robertson should be giving the opportunity to make this defense better, Cliff Matthews didn’t have any sack but created pressure on QB and collapse the pocket on the edge, Falcons need some body who could bull rush a little at DT, Bab and Peters are very solid but not bull rusher DT, Travian might be sleeper that could make this DL a much better team up front.

Where will Falcons be with out Robert Mcclain ? just like Robert other players are waiting to make a different on this team.

Travian, Cliff, Lamar are the three players that could make a major difference on Falcons.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DePlane

November 22nd, 2012
8:50 am

I’d be lying if I said this game at TB doesn’t worry me a little. If the Falcons come out and play like they are capable of they should win handily. But after what I saw last week from our offensive line, the short yardage situations bother me more than ever. The Achilles heel of this offense is the inability to convert those 3-1 and 3-2 in the red zone. We need TD’s not FG’s! We know this is due to our anemic running game. This MUST be fixed somehow! As we all know what the definition of insanity is I won’t regurgitate the same old, same old.

Matt Ryan leads the league in passing yardage after 10 games. His rating has dropped due to 94.8 due to the 5 uncharacteristic INT’s he threw last week. He is now 3rd in the league with 12 after Rivers and Romo. He is tied with Drew Brees for Yds/GM at 307.

Matt Ryan has carried this o-line and running game, if not the entire team. Last week he simply tried to do too much. He is a fierce competitor. He has taken some shots that I was amazed he got back up from, and more than once he appeared a bit wobbly to me. I wondered if he knew where he was for a minute. He wants to win worse than anyone and he is shaping up to be one of the greatest 4th QTR comeback artists ever if he continues his trend.

What worries me about the TB game is not if we are capable. It is if we will continue to see us banging the slow behemoth against the brick wall. Freeman finally has a cast of supporting players that play to his strengths. The muscle hamster. Makes me a little ill to see TB have such a talented running back. We need to bottle him up somehow and I’m glad Spoon looks to be back.

All that said we will go down and take care of business. I’ve no doubt the Falcons are looking to right the ship “in all phases of the game” as Smitty puts it. I would be nice to put a division opponent away and get a decisive win to give this team rythym going into Thursday night.

marko

November 22nd, 2012
9:07 am

We’d likely have the best third down percentage in the league if we were as proficient in third and short situations as we are in third and long attempts. The obvious question seems to be why do we keep trying to do things we clearly suck at? In third and long attempts we pose a nightmare for opposing defenses. We have three wide receivers that rank among the leagues best and Future Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez at tight end. You can’t cover them all. Did you ever wonder why Mr. And Mrs. Gonzalez deicide to name their baby boy Future Hall Of Famer? I digress. Before I interrupted myself, I was saying that on short yardage situations the falcons become one dimensional and predictable. Why? Spread the field regardless of down or distance. I strongly suspect that opposing coordinators are happy when they force us into third and short situations.

DePlane

November 22nd, 2012
9:09 am

LeeVancleave….what brings you to the conclusion Ryan is not the long term QB? That’s absurd!

Sorry cage…catching up on previous posts. Does anyone in the cage doubt for a minute the Falcons will sew up Ryan with a long term contract? IMO, Ryan’s going to get his deal from the Falcons, period.

DePlane

November 22nd, 2012
9:19 am

Darrell starks, I think we’re on the same page when it comes to playing those players. I think I saw BR agree about getting Travian in there. Fresh legs and strong as a bull youngsters are riding the pine. Why we don’t mix it up boggles me. Other teams play their entire roster. We clearly have a 3 tier system when it comes to players seeing the field. It’s like they forget about them until they have to be the “next man up”. Seems more logical to use the entire roster. If you’re afraid a rookie’s going to screw up why is he on the roster? I know its kind of a hierarchy and there’s the whole earn the respect of the team thing for a coach to have an established system of progression from a development standpoint. But its old school to me to have that be unbreakable and not be able to move these guys out onto the field because of it. Physically the players are more advanced today than ever. Mentally its up to the coaches to get these guys prepared to play; but if a guys has the talent to perform better than what you have in there, have to guts to make a d@mn change. Look at Harbaugh with Smith and Kapernick. That takes stones.

DePlane

November 22nd, 2012
9:25 am

Happy Thanksgiving Cage….hope you have a blessed day!

marko

November 22nd, 2012
9:29 am

The Falcons are starting to remind me of inspector Clouseau. I almost expect Matt to take the field with his foot stuck in a Gatorade bucket, and hit Julio in the end zone. Somebody up there is definitely looking out for these guys.

By the way, Happy Thanksgiving everybody What say we attempt to keep our waistlines in their current zip codes.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 22nd, 2012
9:46 am

HAPPY THANKS-GIVING!

Slant Pattern

November 22nd, 2012
9:56 am

Happy Thanksgiving All. I’m getting ready to head out for family stuff the rest of the day, will be back late tonight or tommorrow.

falcon21

November 22nd, 2012
10:14 am

Happy Thanksgiving Cage and your families.

Coop

November 22nd, 2012
10:31 am

Happy Thanksgiving!

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
10:49 am

Happy Thanksgiving cage and all men and women serving our country. And thank youD3 for all your time in producing the greatest nfl fan blog…anyone remember the birdbabe? We’ve come along way thanks to Mr. Dawson Devitt!!!

Arno

November 22nd, 2012
11:02 am

blessings all

DHunt

November 22nd, 2012
12:32 pm

I hate having to play Doug Martin in fantasy this week, but I would be a fool to pull him. That being said, I pulled LeSean McCoy, when everyone just knew Philly was going to try to run the ball down the Falcon’s throat, and the Falcons showed up and showed out against the run. With everything that’s gone on the past few weeks, all the big runs given up, plus Spoon getting back in the game, I’m hoping to take a big L in FFL and Martin gets shut down by a Falcons defense with a chip on it’s collective shoulders and something to prove.

IF Julio plays this week, I hope Koetter is smart enough to make this a game of wind sprints. Julio can’t juke on that ankle, but he still has enough straight line speed, and a size advantage over any CB Tampa might throw out there, to make him a deep threat. Used properly, Julio can keep that extra safety away from the line of scrimmage all day long, open up the underneath space for other receivers, and runs far less risk of aggravating a lingering ankle issue.

Falcons run game is not going to work as long as teams sell out to stop the inside run. Doesn’t matter who is in the backfield, five can’t block 6 and six can’t block 7, and anytime teams think we are going to run, they are going to take that risk. Either we do something tricky to keep defenses from overloading the line, or we run outside all day and take our chances on springing one every now and then.

Matt Ryan got 4 FFL points last week. He goes for 30 this week, assuming we figure out some way to stop that double A gap pressure. If the game is close, it will be because we pulled out early and then coasted while Tampa putts together a furious, but futile comeback.

I’ll say it again. The best thing about last week’s game was that it didn’t allow the Falcons to become complacent. These “hard fought” wins are keeping the team edgy, and that’s not a bad thing coming into that time of the year when the wheat is separated from the chaff.

Big Lou

November 22nd, 2012
12:36 pm

Happy Thanksgiving! Get well fed and enjoy leftovers!

DHunt

November 22nd, 2012
12:37 pm

When was the last time you heard an instrumental of the national anthem? and on a nationally televised game no less? weird much?

JB Falcon

November 22nd, 2012
12:40 pm

I think Furman Bisher said it best: He is missed.

http://www.ajc.com/news/lifestyles/holiday/furman-bisher-im-thankful/nTCZW/

Happy Thanksgiving Ya’ll!

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
1:15 pm

Gobble gobble till u wobble!

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
1:24 pm

Happy Thanksgiving and Turkey Coma, everybody!!!

:)

BobbyDawg

November 22nd, 2012
2:00 pm

Texans & Lions playing now 14/14 almost halftime pretty good game.

Big Lou

November 22nd, 2012
2:54 pm

Worst call in NFL history. There was no way that run play was a touchdown. Rigged.

JB Falcon

November 22nd, 2012
2:55 pm

The NFL just GAVE the Texans a touchdown! I promise, you will read about it later. Same stupid rule that cost MS a 15 yard penalty.

Big Lou

November 22nd, 2012
2:56 pm

Lions getting hosed.

BobbyDawg

November 22nd, 2012
3:04 pm

This is making me dread playing the Lions. They had the Texans on the ropes ’till the refs handed Tex a free td.

Big Lou

November 22nd, 2012
3:15 pm

Played the lions last year.

Same team, beat them at their house.

Coop

November 22nd, 2012
3:19 pm

Concur. Lions don’t scare me. We match up well with them.

JB Falcon

November 22nd, 2012
3:51 pm

I’ll bet the Lions coach wishes he had that flag back. That rule is pure BS.

Nookah

November 22nd, 2012
4:03 pm

To all my Cage family, Happy Thanks Giving from up North to you!!

May all your Sundays be Red and Black!!

Go Falcons!!

Nookah

November 22nd, 2012
4:06 pm

TB doesn’t scare me but you know we’ll make it exciting. They always play us tough. Hopefully the real MR2 shows up which I have no doubt he will. Spoon should be back and that makes a very big difference.

I am not on the inside but if I were MS I’d sit Julio until Thursday vs. Saints. That’s when we will really need him.

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
4:11 pm

Texans’ running game makes me jealous…

Watched them punch it in at the goal line with ease. Great blocking.

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
4:14 pm

All we really have to worry about with the Lions is letting Megatron get loose. Jump too many routes and we get burned. Let him get behind us…burned. Let him free across the middle…burned.

OH, and while the Texans manage to consistenly take the ball away from Brandon Pettigrew after he makes the catch…but if we try that, we could get burned.

Lions stop the Texans run…with…heh…some big ass DTs.

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
4:18 pm

Nookah ,

I both agree and disagree. I really want him back, but we kind of also need the “adversity.” Get HD and Drew Davis in there, and make it happen.

I’d rather have Julio fully healthy than keep playing this “half in, half out” games with him.

Big Lou

November 22nd, 2012
4:24 pm

Texans are overrated. Period.

TB should scare you. They match up well with us and have a good running game.

As far as Julio, I agree to wait till the Saints game. TB has a horrible secondary.

JB Falcon

November 22nd, 2012
4:28 pm

Chris Houston got an INT!!!??

Nookah

November 22nd, 2012
4:30 pm

BR, couldn’t agree more!!

Big Lou

November 22nd, 2012
4:31 pm

Texan barely beat the Jag and now can’t stop the Lions. Lmao. Best team in the NFL, my azz.

Big Lou

November 22nd, 2012
4:39 pm

Texans don’t deserve this win.

What a horrible team. The call the refs gave them was horrible. Pathetic officiating.

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
4:41 pm

The mighty Texans finally win out the battle of kickers….barely.

Nookah

November 22nd, 2012
4:42 pm

Big Lou, don’t you know they’ll anoint anything not named te Falcons? C’mon man!!

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
4:44 pm

Big Lou,

No reason to even think about the Texans until/unless we meet them in the SB. Neither team is guaranteed to go, despite having the best records currently.

That said, I think I’ve made my Tampa concerns well known already…

Well, 75 minutes until the gorging…I mean feasting…begins. Until then, it’s Cowgirls vs. The folks who gave up all their land….

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
4:45 pm

Well I guess we weren’t the only team to have free running Dallas defenders running at our QB. Down goes RG III.

BobbyDawg

November 22nd, 2012
4:46 pm

Highway robbery by the Texans (refs.) The Birds will beat either one of these teams if we bring our A game, maybe even our B+ game. In NCAA basketball today the head coach for Morehead St. Sean Woods REALLY showed his A$$ on national tv. What a plick. They’ll be showing replays of that.

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
4:46 pm

We may not have deserved to beat the Cardinals because of our turnovers, but we damn sure didn’t get any BS calls to give us the win…

Not that any talking heads will see it that way….

Arno

November 22nd, 2012
4:48 pm

We need replacement refs for the refs who replaced the replacement refs.

JB Falcon

November 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm

Jax, of all teams took the Texans to OT and so do the Lions, who spotted them a touchdown, and now we will have to listen to the media tell us how good the Texans are. From what I watched today I wouldn’t mind meeting them in the SB at all. They’re definitely not as good as their record.

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm

JB ,

One reason why I wouldn’t want to meet the Texans.

Tyson Clabo vs. JJ Watt.

I’m just sayin’….I don’t want Matt Ryan to look like one of Picasso’s works by the end of the first quarter.

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
4:59 pm

D3

November 22nd, 2012
5:04 pm

Happy Thanksgiving Bird Cage Family!

Big Ray

November 22nd, 2012
5:14 pm

You too, D3…gonna eat in a bit…wooohoooo

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
5:58 pm

Coop must be very happy with the cowgirls laying a golden turkey!

Coop

November 22nd, 2012
6:13 pm

JJ – Thrilled. Wife is a Redskins fan too. So could be a big night in Casa de Coop.

JB Falcon

November 22nd, 2012
6:17 pm

“You too, D3…gonna eat in a bit…wooohoooo” BR 5:14
Let me guess, somone told BR “it’s time to eat,”? :)

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
6:54 pm

Xoop, glad to hear it, Im a bit of a RGIII fan myself. ;)

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
6:55 pm

Coop, Ill proof read one of these times!

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
7:04 pm

Im bettin Unca’Bob is not a big cowboys fan either, sorry buddy. Tony is his qb tonight.

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
7:08 pm

Speak of the devil, 85 yd td pass to romo, ur welcome UB!

Unca' Bob

November 22nd, 2012
8:22 pm

JJ,

28 points ain’t a bad day.

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
8:22 pm

WOW, Romo wound up with 28 pts, nice job UB!

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
8:25 pm

lol. I was talking about the first 3 qts, not the 4th. Regardless congrats my friend!

JJ

November 22nd, 2012
8:26 pm

UB, he had -10,000 at the half so I was just looking out for your behalf…

Unca' Bob

November 22nd, 2012
8:38 pm

JJ,

LOL. And I thank you for it.

Unca' Bob

November 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm

JWW,

Please pardon my lack of manners. Good luck to you this weekend.

snacktastic

November 22nd, 2012
9:19 pm

Happy Thanksgiving Cagers. Hope you’re having a great one.

Big Lou

November 22nd, 2012
9:25 pm

Jets make me glad that I’m a Falcon’s fan.

snacktastic

November 22nd, 2012
9:33 pm

BL, seconded, thirded, and fourthed. TRAIN WRECK. Or should I say PLANE CRASH.

Big Lou

November 22nd, 2012
10:04 pm

Dafuq is Lenny Kravitz wearing?

falcon21

November 22nd, 2012
10:51 pm

Gotta give it to RG3, dude can play!

Paddy O

November 22nd, 2012
11:29 pm

RB looked very good. still gotta avoid the big hits. the Jets are undermined by a very dumb GM. still can’t understand why Sanchez can’t throw with crapola receivers. and, signing Tebow for publicity did not help the team get better. J’ville should have taken him – but, MM could not custom design an offense for tebow.

E43

November 23rd, 2012
12:42 am

Paddy O- I think Tebow needs continuity. The Broncos and Jets really were teams that he had a wide open chance make a name for himself. At this point, I don’t think he has picked up enough offense to even get through the doors of an NFL team. His career might actually be over if he cant make magic with the next team he plays for.

John Waynesworld

November 23rd, 2012
10:30 am

Well, at least things are back to normal. Not a whisper from the national pubs about the Falcons.

As far as the games Thursday, NFL fans around the country are reminded again during the holiday season that no matter what our own teams’ deficiencies or how many injuries our teams suffer, that we can take solace in the fact that our team is not the New York Jets.

snacktastic

November 23rd, 2012
11:33 am

Word is the NFL Competition Committee is reviewing that stupid-ass challenge flag rule that Smitty and Schwartz got hit with this week. I KNEW they’d have to look at it, given the effect it’s had in games, but I figured they’d wait until the offseason. Props for being on top of it.

DHunt

November 23rd, 2012
11:40 am

Seems like not enough props was given to the Falcons for overcoming 6 turnover (-5 differential) game to get a win. After seeing how turnovers derailed teams on yesterday, I have a whole new appreciation for what the Falcons were able to accomplish.

And I only watched a few minutes of the Jets game, after halftime when it was totally out of hand, yet still somehow getting worse and worse for the Jets. Yet I don’t recall hearing much in the way of boo birds. The home crows looked defeated and disgusted, as well they should, but still didn’t turn on their team, who got THRASHED at home, and couldn’t generate anything in the way of positive plays. Maybe I missed it, and I’m sure someone will correct me if so.

snacktastic

November 23rd, 2012
11:46 am

DHunt: There were definitely boos, but it was a mixture of fans booing the team and fans booing the people doing Tebow chants…according to the commentators, anyway. They didn’t sound nearly as loud and angry as those Lions fans, though.

Big Lou

November 23rd, 2012
12:27 pm

Dhunt

If we had those turnovers against the Patriots, it would have been a blowout. Cardinals and Patriots are apples and oranges. Just saying.

Wings

November 23rd, 2012
12:28 pm

And Big Lou, we would not have kept trying to score. The Patriots keep their foot on the gas.

Nookah

November 23rd, 2012
12:36 pm

Greetings Cagers!!

DHunt, dont be surprised by any negativity from the media and look forward to the analysts focusing on Matty Ice’s 5 TO’s in the Cardinals game, along with the anointing of Drew Brees and the Saints and the greatest recovery of a bad start to a season ever known to man, and not too much on what we have accomplished to date, when the Thursday game rolls around.

The truth is that analysts are cowards and it’s all about credibility. They tend to say the same things so as to be safe. So they will always have an affinity for teams with a winning history. That we do not have until recently and we will continue to be doubted until we win the big one. It’s just the way things go. Unsuccessful teams this season who have a winning history will still get more props than we do, such as the Cowboys, Redskins and even the Jets. They will tell you how they are self-destructing and that will get more airplay than our 9-1 record, soon to be 10-1.

However, it’s the breaks Cagers but this is our year and they can do nothing about it. Perhaps after this season we will start to get the respect but I ain’t holding my breath!

Go Falcons!!

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
1:45 pm

Dhunt ,

Good point. I will say that the Jets fans probably already know their hosed though, LOL.

At the same time this really kinda illustrates just as equally how bad the Cardinals were in that game. Not that I want to discredit our team, but you won’t turn the ball over 6 times against a decent team and win. It just doesn’t happen. And to really show how bad THEIR offense was, they only managed 19 points off of that.

If you want more persective from that end, look no further than Yastinkas or DOL’s blogs and see where Mike Smith is STILL trying to figure out how we won, because it made no sense.

We won. It doesn’t get much better/more positive than that…other than our defense, which I thought was better (at least in 2 1/2 quarters) than they got credit for. Even then we got lucky. Our defense scored a TD mainly because the other team didn’t know the ball was still in play. If that doesn’t happen, we lose. Plain and simple.

Glad they were worse than we were…

Ain’t gonna work like that against TB…gonna need our A game back.

DHunt

November 23rd, 2012
1:46 pm

BL, that’s part of what I’m talking about. The Pats took advantage of the Jets Blunders, the Skins took advantage of the Cowboys Blunders, the Texans took advantage of the Lions blunders. The fact that the cardinals did not, isn’t a testament to how bad they are. It’s a testament to how stout the Falcons defense played. To say that the Falcons defense would not have survived or played as well against a better team is the same old song everyone continues to sing about the Falcons. Yet at the same time we lament how the Cardinals ripped us with the run game. I know the Cards missed a couple of opportunities, but so did the Pats, Skins, and Texans. I recognize that the Cards played a rookie QB, but rookies and backups have come on and played big for other teams this year.

Nookah, I don’t expect anything from the national media but derision for the Falcons and inexplicable euphoria about any team not named the Falcons that happens to win a game. I haven’t seen a lick of national media about yesterday’s games, but I’m willing to bet the Houston win was described as some sort of spectacular show of intestinal fortitude by a really great team, rather than the lucky win they actually pulled out against a Lions team that pretty much dominated all day and basically shot itself in the foot repeatedly until that foot gave out and they lost the war.

Snack, I bet those Lions fans were far more incensed because they thought the game was stolen from them, than because they were disgusted with their team.

Wings, I have to agree with you, even though as bad as the Jets played, it was almost like the Pats couldn’t help but run up the score. I dislike the term “Smittyball” but the one thing I dislike most about Mike Smith is the tendency of this team to dial it down. Whatever is the best style of football for your team, offensively or defensively, that is the style you should play for 60 minutes. The lack of doing that is what makes the Falcons look schizophrenic. If CMS looses his job, it won’t (or shouldn’t) be because of one bad playoff game (if we suffer another early exit). It should be because that’s a pattern that simply won’t work, and can’t be tolerated in today’s NFL.

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
1:58 pm

All that said, our “A” game is exactly what I’m expecting.

Schiano will try a thing or two, but the Bucs know what has worked for them.

We may want to roll with that “big tackle” setup to try and slow Doug Martin down, putting more pressure on Freeman, who has enjoyed a lack of pressure due in large part to the work of Martin.

I hope to see Weatherspoon out on the field. We need his leadership, passion, and playmaking ability out there.

Nookah

November 23rd, 2012
2:04 pm

Big Ray, doesn’t he have some illness or the other?

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:08 pm

BL, that’s part of what I’m talking about. The Pats took advantage of the Jets Blunders, the Skins took advantage of the Cowboys Blunders, the Texans took advantage of the Lions blunders. The fact that the cardinals did not, isn’t a testament to how bad they are. It’s a testament to how stout the Falcons defense played. To say that the Falcons defense would not have survived or played as well against a better team is the same old song everyone continues to sing about the Falcons.

Actually, that kinda does say how bad the Cardinals were in that game .

Again, I give credit to our defense. Again, if they don’t score, we don’t win…because the offense wasn’t doing much.

I’m still very much relieved to come away with a win rather than a loss (which always hurts worse), but that game was just about an anomaly, if you ask me. For both teams, probably…

I know the “they wouldn’t survive” thing is an old song. But let’s say we give a better team 6 turnovers to work with. You think our defense is stout enough to win the game by themselves. Seriously….6 turnovers? That is no longer about the quality of your defense, it is all about overburdening them.

The Cardinals were unable to challenge our defense through the air, although they did do so on the ground. Our defense was good, but would you expect that against any of the other teams we’ve played so far this season? Inject those 6 “oops” plays into any game we’ve played so far and tell me if we win…

We may have said other games were escape games…like against Oakland. This one TRULY was.

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:10 pm

Nookah,

Yeah, that held him out of practice. Doesn’t mean it will hold him out of the game, but who knows. I’m guessing he’ll be listed as “questionable” for the game and it will depend on how he feels. They might hold him out though, just because him not being able to practice means they weren’t able to evaluate his physical/injury condition.

Love to see Julio on the field too, but not if he’s going to be in the condition he was in last week. For all that, let him rest.

Arno

November 23rd, 2012
2:11 pm

My impression is that the Bucs aren’t happy with the hits Freeman has taken. He’s a big QB and takes them well, but I think they want him to get the ball out quicker/move his set points.

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:11 pm

Dhunt ,

Don’t know what the hell I’m arguing for. We won the game (although it felt more like “not losing” than winning) and I don’t expect to see that kind of ugliness from this team’s performance again. Certainly not from Ryan.

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:20 pm

Arno ,

That’s very likely true.

Oddly enough however, Freeman has really snuck into the top ranks of the QBs for this year, statistically if nothing else.

Sacks? He’s taken 14 of those….as compared to 20 that Ryan has endured. QB hits? That may be another story.

In the meantime, he’s thrown 21 TDs and only 7 INTs. Both numbers are better than Ryan’s (though Matt does beat him elsewhere).

I think we can attribute that to four elements besides Freeman himself: Greg Schiano, Doug Martin, the TB OL, and Vincent Jackson.

Of the four, Jackson can be contained. We’ve done it against equally good and even better WRs. Greg Schiano (who I don’t like) is still an NFL rookie HC. My worries lie with Doug Martin and the Tampa offensive line. We don’t get enough push or pressure as it is. And good RBs are our anathema.

That said, we have what it takes to beat these guys by 3 TDs if we want to.

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:22 pm

Funny….the challenge rule wasn’t even discussed when Mike Smith made the blunder against the Cardinals.

But let Jim Schwartz of the Detroit Lions make the same mistake, and now it’s all over ESPN and the NFL says it’s going to discuss this issue.

F’in media….

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:23 pm

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:25 pm

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:27 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/42071/mark-ingrams-role-becoming-clear

Can’t stand the Saints. But they do know how to use their RBs.

I wonder what OUR stats would look like comparatively?

Arno

November 23rd, 2012
2:27 pm

Freeman got crunched on the pass that beat the Panters on OT. Got to commend his courage… Maybe Abe will “Picasso” him, as you put it. LOL

Big Lou

November 23rd, 2012
2:31 pm

Dhunt

The Cardinals have one of the statistically worst offenses in the league. Teams like the Packers, Pats, or Saints would have destroyed our defense with those mistakes. Cardinals has great field position all game, but could not pass worth a lick because of their 3RD STRING QB.

Granted, I give our defense credit for doing their job, but all they really had to do was stop the run. Any competent offense would have scored way more points.

As a cage member stated about me, I’m an optimistic cuss, but I’m also a realistic one.

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:33 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/42044/blogger-blitz-stopping-doug-martin

Pay no attention to Yastinkas…but read the blogger comments below.

If the players read any blogs (and they really shouldn’t), then they oughta take a gander at this one.

No, seriously….our defense would do well to get it in their heads that Tampa doesn’t respect them and expects to run them slap over. That oughta get some fire going and maybe we can make tackles to start the game, instead of figuring out whether we should start tackling late in the 2nd quarter or early in the 3rd quarter….

The smart-a$$es talking about Ryan’s accuracy clearly think he’s played like this all season….idiots…

Big Lou

November 23rd, 2012
2:36 pm

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/injury-report.html

Well, at least most of the star players who were injured did a limited practice. Let’s hope they are ready to go Sunday.

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
2:38 pm

Big Lou ,

Agreed per your 2:31 post. I’m looking for a fired up defense on Sunday. They have their work cut out, but they can get the job done.

I’m really looking forward to the ball of playmaking passion that is Sean Weatherspoon. That guy really brings his teammates up, and I think a lot of folks really don’t see that effect for what it is.

snacktastic

November 23rd, 2012
3:32 pm

BR: I saw a comment on another blog yesterday about the challenge rule review being imminent due to Texans-Lions being a nationally televised game with a bigger audience (thus making it evident to more people just how dumb a rule it is). I wouldn’t chalk it up to disrespect or ignorance toward the Falcons.

Actually, scratch that. Not one commentator yesterday mentioned that the same thing happened during the Falcons game, despite it being only four days earlier. That’s pretty lame.

Nookah

November 23rd, 2012
3:50 pm

I’ll repeat, we won’t get respect until we win a Bowl.

Big Ray,

I’m really looking forward to the ball of playmaking passion that is Sean Weatherspoon. That guy really brings his teammates up, and I think a lot of folks really don’t see that effect for what it is .

Amen Brother!!!

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
4:29 pm

Snacktastic ,

Sick, isn’t it? I get your point about the nationally televised part…it makes sense. And normally I’d say that I or anyone else was just overreacting and doing what Falcon fans do. But you realized it yourself – nobody said “hey, this happened less than a week ago with the Falcons.”

Maybe it’s because it didn’t affect the outcome of the game (but almost did).

Or maybe it’s just business as usual….

Arno ,

I’ll take that!

BobbyDawg

November 23rd, 2012
5:19 pm

Arkansas playing LSU tough. LSU 17 ARK 10 end 3rd qtr.

Big Ray

November 23rd, 2012
10:23 pm

With Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III having strong rookie performances, Tampa Bay running back Doug Martin probably won’t win Offensive Rookie of the Year honors. But he should garner serious consideration. The 31st pick in the 2012 draft out of Boise State, Martin leads the NFL with 1,319 yards from scrimmage and has 1,019 of those yards in the past six games. According to ESPN Stats & Information, only two other rookies in NFL history have ever amassed 1,000 yards from scrimmage in a six-game span: Eric Dickerson in 1983 and Edgerrin James in 1999. That’s pretty good company.

Martin will add to that total this week against an Atlanta defense that has allowed a league-high 2.2 yards per rush after first contact this season. Martin has averaged 2.3 yards per rush after contact, fourth best among players with at least 75 rushes.

Motivation….motivation…motivation….

BobbyDawg

November 24th, 2012
1:15 am

GFree — You need about a ten incher sewed in your mouth !

Zoomie

November 24th, 2012
6:57 am

“Oh my god… seriously, does this blogger review or edit any of their writing? This piece was painful to read-and not because of the Falcon’s display on the field. I mean, REALLY, someone pays you to write and you can bare string sentences together…”

Looks like something escaped from under the bridge again . . .

Unca' Bob

November 24th, 2012
7:24 am

“bare string”? As opposed to a hairy string?

PoolerSpirit

November 24th, 2012
8:32 am

Does a wild bare string in the woods?

Unca' Bob

November 24th, 2012
8:41 am

Polar bares don’t Pooler.

D3

November 24th, 2012
8:52 am

Greetings Cage Family! — Just got back from Tennessee yesterday and turning around and going to see family in Athens today for Good Ol’ Fashioned Hate Contest known as Georgia-GT. Will not be around today, but believe you me, I’ll be back ready to blog it out tomorrow during game of the year.

I’ve stopped being nervous and just rolling with the true believers for UGA and Falcons. Fact is, if you can’t win games like GT, Alabama, the Bucs, and sAINTS, you really have no business legitimately thinking that you’re going to be a SB Winner. If we get these next two, we can start talking about home-field advantage for real.

Have a great final Saturday of College Football and I’ll be back for Huge Game Tomorrow!

Don’t feed the trolls, especially those who make mistakes even when they’re trying to insult, right G-String?

snacktastic

November 24th, 2012
9:50 am

Well said. D3. I had a cousin accuse me of being on drugs on Thanksgiving when I predicted UGA would make it to the title game, but we’ll see who has the last laugh.

ymmotretsof

November 24th, 2012
10:10 am

I havent seen anybody run behind this line. I do think turner has lost his ability to run the ball. But no one has steped up either. that makes me think that the line isn’t run blocking. It seems they are in pass defence mode all the time and that’s not that good either. The run game used to open up the pass for Ryan and he was better then. now everybody knows he going to pass and it’s getting harder for him to play his game. I don’t read all this stuff so I don’t know if anyone has noticed they arent going to the no huddle nearly as much anymore. This has always been Ryan’s strong suit he has a good eye for whats going on on the feild. and most of the time it keeps a defence on the feild longer than they want to be. I;m very happy with the way the season has gone to this point. But they seem to be playing to the other teams ability insteed of playing at the level everybody knows they have. To much is being made of the playoof history of this team. first you have to get to the playoffs and they are very close to that again. Five wining seasons in a row is something we all thought we would see six years ago but here we are. Mabe one day very soon we will see the team the season like they were on fire but until we do lets enjoy the fact that they are wining even if it is ugly from time to time.

Big Ray

November 24th, 2012
10:59 am

I have questioned the lack of no huddle usage in wake of offensive struggles.

Yet…although the run game used to open things up for Ryan a bit…he has never had stats like these before.

Big Ray

November 24th, 2012
11:00 am

D3 ,

You’re right on the money about the Bucs and Saints games. Time to buckle down and get ‘er done…

Big Ray

November 24th, 2012
11:02 am

Eric C.

November 24th, 2012
11:04 am

D3,

“I’ve stopped being nervous and just rolling with the true believers for UGA and Falcons. Fact is, if you can’t win games like GT, Alabama, the Bucs, and sAINTS, you really have no business legitimately thinking that you’re going to be a SB Winner. If we get these next two, we can start talking about home-field advantage for real”

well said!

Eric C.

November 24th, 2012
11:12 am

Getting Weatherspoon back will be huge, whenever that is

It can’t be stated enough—this by far is the biggest game of the season…win and the divisision is all but locked up!

The team I most fear the Falcons playing in the playoffs is the Packers. Get any other team in the dome and I like the Falcons chances, but the Packers will be a very tough out. I’m hoping the loss in Seattle comes back to haunt them. Then again, as D3 implied, gotta beat the best to be the best.

LeeVancleave

November 24th, 2012
11:48 am

JJ: I am responding to where you objected when I said that Matty is not the best qb we ever had. Steve Bartkowski was much better than Matt at throwing the deep ball–no question about it. In fact, It was Bart who invented “BIG BEN LEFT” and “BIG BEN RIGHT” which is the equivalent of the HAIL MARY PASS. Doug Flutie probably made the biggest hail mary college bomb in history–but it was steve bartkowski who invented the play. Getting back to matt ryan, ANY QB WHO THROWS 5 PICKS IN ONE HALF OF FOOTBALL; and FOUR PICKS IN ONE QUARTER IS CERTAINLY NOT AN ELITE QUARTERBACK. I was fed up with Matt after the first quarter of the Cardinals game after he had already thrown four picks–that I thought if he kept it up for an entire game, Ice may have thrown 16 picks for the game. If Matty Ice doesnt improve, he may possible throw double digit picks in a single game–as many as 10 or more if the guy just doenst catch on to the pro game. Steve Bartkowski never had that problem of throwing picks. I think the most picks steve ever had in a single game was no more than 2 in his entire career. Matt Ryan is a BUSTED draft pick–BUT he is good enough to win the Falcons a superbowl this season. Stay tuned!

Eric C.

November 24th, 2012
11:49 am

I found this link in the comment section of the espn nfc south blog…real nice work by DOL.

http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=78534#comments

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 24th, 2012
11:56 am

There’s been some dicussion (debate) in the Cage about the level of importance (significance) of the game against the Bucs, IMO, this game is HUGE!. This game, more so than the up-coming game against the Saints, will show us what kind of football team we truly have. If we lose, it will further harden the skepticisms, concerns of some here in the cage, about the way we’ve been winning, playing as of late.

IMHO, this game could very well decide, or should I say, chart the course, become a precursor of how we perform against the Saints on thursday night…and how we’ll be seeded, how far we go into the playoffs. This game will determine, IMHO, if we go into the playoffs limping (leaking), or we go into the playoffs with our mettle tested (forged) by wins against Bucs/Saints, which will, IMO, catapult us as a legitimate threat in the playoffs…and dare I say, Superbowl Champions.

…And, If I may, we lose against Bucs, Saints lose against 49′ers, the game against the Saints really wont matter as much…their playoff hopes will be on life support anyways. But, the Bucs will be staring us down, stalking like a Lion, closing in on a gazelle. We win in Tampa, get our revenge against the Saints, we control our seeding (playoff path), puts us on very strong footing…rather than being dictated to, by wins and loses of other division (conference teams). IMHO.

Big Lou

November 24th, 2012
12:06 pm

Would be nice if the Falcons came out up-tempo like the Dawgs just did.

Big Lou

November 24th, 2012
12:13 pm

They look like they have our same rushing defense, though.

snacktastic

November 24th, 2012
12:41 pm

What a terrible challenge.

snacktastic

November 24th, 2012
12:52 pm

Eh, guess it didn’t matter. The rout is on…

Ken Strickland

November 24th, 2012
1:02 pm

The next 6 gms will definitely test the Falcons ability to establish a rushing OFF, which is a serious challenge since we failed to improve it coming out of our bye week. Even though we have some solid size at every position except LT and OC, we can’t seem to get any kind of push anywhere along the OL.

While I understand OC TMcClure’s comments about play calling being a factor on 3rd and short, it certainly doesn’t explain the consistent failures on all of the other downs and distances. We’re not just getting stopped on many rushing attempts, we’re getting stopped for losses, which means DLs are getting instant penetration.

Not only is our OL not getting any push, they’re not preventing DLs from getting push or penetration. No matter what our record ends up being during the regular season, we’are not going to go very far in the playoffs if we continue having trouble running the ball and stopping the run.

LeeVancleave

November 24th, 2012
1:25 pm

Great point. sure the next 6 games will determine how good the falcons will be this year. the next 6 opponents are all tough teams and the Falcons will be lucky to split and finish 12-4 to end the regular season. The Falcons will probably make the playoffs, but I think that this years team is STRONG ENOUGH and POWERFUL ENOUGH to win this years superbowl. I think that coach mike smith should tweak just ONE thing and a superbowl championship will be in the bag! I believe the Falcons could have already been 10-0 instead of 9-1 had they focused on funning either QUIZ ROGERS or JASON SNELLING in short yardage situations instead of the overweight PIG Michael Turner. Snelling is light-out in short yardage situations and quiz continually makes people miss during his runs. Had the Falcons done that against New Orleans they would have outscored N.O. probably 41-27 and won that football game and everybody would have jumped on the Falcons superbowl bandwagon. Again, if coach mike smith is reading this blog, coach I am BEGGING YOU to run Jason Snelling whenever we come up 2nd and 1; 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 ALL SHORT YARDAGE SITUATIONS. I think you will be pleasantly surprised at the results because Jason, I guarantee you, will get the yardage, move the chains, and the Falcons will win games much easier than struggling to rack their brains to pull out nail-biters. It doenst make sense and its uncalled for. JUST ONE TWEAK WILL FIX THE FALCONS AND TURN THEM INTO THIS YEARS SUPERBOWL CHAMPIONS. Go Falcons!

Unca' Bob

November 24th, 2012
1:29 pm

LeeVancleave,

FYI
Bart
3456 att
1932 comp- 55.9%
144 int- 4.2%
MR2
2419 att
1500 comp- 62%
58 int- 2.4%

Next time bring some research with you.

Wings

November 24th, 2012
1:36 pm

Truth – “IMO, this game is HUGE!”

Absolutely!

It is HUGE for the coaching staff. Can the coaching staff do its job and have the team play at a high level for the entire game once. There is no doubt the team has talent.

Is the talent used properly is another question.

Wings

November 24th, 2012
1:37 pm

Way to go Unca’Bob.

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
1:48 pm

Ken Strickland

November 24th, 2012
1:53 pm

I wonder how long it’s going to take for DT CPeters to gets into gm condition? We need him to get there as soon as possible to see how much impact he’ll have on our poor run DEF. If he can get it done, our passing OFF is certainly good enough to get us to a Superbowl even without a consistent rushing OFF, assuming all of our OFF weapons are healthy.

A consistent pass rush, even if it doesn’t produce a lot of sacks, will definitely help a secondary that’s been playing lights out.

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
2:40 pm

UB, you should have recognized that lure before you bit. So far, you and JJ are the only ones to bite.

Big Ray

November 24th, 2012
2:51 pm

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/11/24/falcons-at-buccaneers-3-key-matchups/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_falcons_blog

DOL’s three key matchups lacks one thing – some LB vs. Doug Martin.

That said, a few thoughts:

1) Thomas “oops, I missed that tackle” Decoud might be staying on the field despite his miscues for one reason – Charles Mitchell continues to be hurt. I’m not saying Decoud is a wash, but when is the last time he actually had a pretty good game? 4 games ago against Philly if you ask me….

Lack of production is not cutting it under Nolan…see Ray Edwards. What word we could get on Mitchell was consistently good and Robert McClain has shown that the Apprenticeship Program might not extend to all positions these days (though it does extend to most). Decoud needs to get his act together.

2) Maybe John Abraham can get some holding calls or something today. He won’t have it easy against the Bucs LT, though.

3) D-Rob against Vincent Jackson or Mike Williams bothers me. Both guys have size, both have speed. Give them too much space and….well, let’s just hope D-Rob keep his head on a swivel and so do Willy Mo and Decoud. Otherwise we’re in some trouble.

Being without Asante means we might have less chance of getting burnt due to jumping routes, but that also means any backups or Nickle guys is going to be Owens…or Franks. Hmmmm. Owens better not pull any of that nonsense where he tries to strip the ball and ends up missing the tackle instead.

In fact, that goes for all of them.

Big Ray

November 24th, 2012
2:56 pm

JB Falcon ,

Yep. And I wonder if folks have figured out just who LeeVancleave is? Heh…obvious to me….but then I do have a nose for such things and moderating my own blog only helped to sharpen that sense….

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
3:10 pm

Ohio State’s Urban Meyer on one of his players: “He doesn’t know the
meaning of the word fear. In fact, I just saw his grades and he
doesn’t know the meaning of a lot of words.”

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
3:13 pm

BR, he knows D3 is out of town and not moderating closely. We can’t see the address like D3 can but we can smell the attitude. Even complimented himself the other day! :)

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
3:30 pm

JB, I did read that the other day, too funny, and yep Big Ray, same here!

Big Ray

November 24th, 2012
3:48 pm

LOL@ JB

F21 , I knew you were on it…

Wings

November 24th, 2012
3:57 pm

falcon21, I don’t have that worried feeling that I had last week re the Cardinals.

I think of the second game in 2008 when the Tampa defense pretty much shut everything down. It was MR’s first taste of a really good NFL defense. MR was 13 of 33 for 158 yards, and sacked 4 times. He had two interceptions. MT had 42 yards on 14 carries. It’s the only time I remember the Falcons with MR so dominated. The score was 24-9 with 3 Falcons field goals.

I think he will come ready to play on Sunday. The team should have a good game in Tampa. I’m saying 31-14.

Big Ray

November 24th, 2012
4:09 pm

Wings,

I like the way you think, I must say…

Unca' Bob

November 24th, 2012
5:00 pm

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
2:40 pm

He was the one that bit. He called out my man JJ and I bit him. I brought it in a manner that was both pointed and respectful. I ain’t the F’ee, I am theF’er.

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
5:09 pm

UB, hope you wore protection! :)

Unca' Bob

November 24th, 2012
5:11 pm

JB,

Never. I’m a home body.

Unca' Bob

November 24th, 2012
5:12 pm

Sorry. should have added a lol.

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
6:31 pm

Wings, I like what you are thinking. I do like that score. It is time to put 60 minutes together, O and D along with the ST’s.

Arno

November 24th, 2012
6:44 pm

Here’s a useless comment to help fill up the void before game time: Falcons’ away unis look sharper than their home unis.

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
7:01 pm

The ACC is in a nose dive, no disrespect intended WR, SP and any other ACC fan but something is not right.

Arno

November 24th, 2012
7:14 pm

Since this is our Falcons blog, I will speak in generalities: A certain team trounced my team today and the only thing I hated worse than the trouncing was to see a certain coach berating his players on the sideline. My team actually got some O-line push on a superior D (take note, Falcons), but a certain coach seems to drain all joy out of the sport. Sorry– had to vent. Back to the Falcons.

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
7:21 pm

And Mark Richt takes a beating for being too soft!

Arno

November 24th, 2012
7:23 pm

Maybe that other certain coach takes care of it in the locker room– as he should.

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
7:25 pm

My real last name is not Johnson?

Paddy O

November 24th, 2012
7:29 pm

vancleave – you really are a sad faced doofus. negative, unfounded bias on your part does not indicate objectivity. I always like Bartkowski – but, he is NOT as good as Ryan. How many consecutive winning season’s did Bartkowski have? Does Bartkowski have any Falcon records left after Ryan has played for us less than 5 complete seasons? If given a choice, I’d take Ryan at peak over Bartkowski.

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
7:29 pm

That is not what I seen. Dude came down hard on some players. Maybe we are talking about two different games!

Arno

November 24th, 2012
7:35 pm

Athens. Anyway… congrats.

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
7:38 pm

It’s all good Arno, as you said, this is a Falcons blog. My bad for bringing up College football!

Arno

November 24th, 2012
7:40 pm

Best team won today, and the best team >> FALCONS << will win tomorrow !!

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
7:43 pm

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
7:48 pm

Paddy, don’t feed the fish. It’s a carp.

Arno/21, I thought we were playing charades. This is a fan blog and we love the college teams and our Falcons. Not sure which side to take here but Tech didn’t have a chance.

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
7:51 pm

Don’t take sides JB, we are just fans.

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
8:03 pm

21, I’m not even sure what teams ya’ll were talking about? Just running my flapper, but I do have my alegiances. (sp) I’m for any team that is in Georgia.

Arno

November 24th, 2012
8:04 pm

There is a connection to the Falcons: Smith got all over Asante for that excessive celebration in the NO game. There was some discussion that the Falcons D lost focus after that, allowing that huge TD run, Saints back in the game at 14-10. True? So I wonder if a coach is yelling out his frustration at his players on the sideline, it can have the effect of getting their heads on the coach rather than on the game. I’ve certainly seen it happen at lower levels of competition.

Arno

November 24th, 2012
8:07 pm

Correction: Saints back in the game at 10-7.

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
8:15 pm

Paul Johnson is all over his players at all times, Mark Richt is on his players for being disrespectful to the other team. I wish Richt would get on their azz more. This is football, not putt putt!

Big Ray

November 24th, 2012
8:20 pm

LOL@ Unca Bob …..

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
8:22 pm

A coach is supposed to coach. A coach’s methods are determined by a coaches record.

JJ

November 24th, 2012
8:28 pm

UB, Awe shucks, tks man.
f21, Dislike both teams tonight (kiffin is a low life and I went to a catholic HS-barf ND), so Im guessing its best for uga for USC to win?
JB, When a blogger comes on and trys to intellectualy (see i cant even spell it) back up his idiotic claim, then hes free bait IMHO. Way different from the mv lovers who just come on to disrupt (ie noodle arm, flacco is great.) Looking at profballstats between both qbs. Let me state I grew up a huge fan of Bartkowski, still am. But MR has surpassed ALL of his stats in 5 yrs…so theres really no debate. Some bloggers who dis our falcons are not trolls, just uninformed idiots and deserve the facts!!!

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
8:29 pm

Good point JB, just look at the coaches records and your point is proven.

JJ

November 24th, 2012
8:30 pm

D3, blog monster help, tks!

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
8:35 pm

JJ, are you dogging me out again?

JJ

November 24th, 2012
8:35 pm

na,jb this time, lol.

JJ

November 24th, 2012
8:36 pm

Dislike kiffin and ND, whats best foruga?
ND loses I guess?

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
8:37 pm

Thanks buddy!

JJ

November 24th, 2012
8:41 pm

Went to a catholic hs (go wareagles in playoffs) , but not catholic and had ND propaganda shoved down my throat for 4 yrs…but I also dislike Lane fintraitor Kiffin…

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
8:41 pm

I want Dame to win, if we beat Bama it will be 1980 again!

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
8:44 pm

I guess I should say 81.

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
8:59 pm

We have an important game tomorrow. We are 9 – 1. Should we play Spoon, Asante, and JJ at the risk of them not being 100% during the playoffs or not? I’m saying, even if we lose the game tomorrow, which we can sin without them, we can afford it because we have to be healthy for the Saints and the rest of the season.

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
9:05 pm

Spoon needs to play, let the others sit, I think Spoon is ready. We gotta get in a groove now. It is time!

falcon21

November 24th, 2012
9:07 pm

Later Cagers.

JB Falcon

November 24th, 2012
9:14 pm

21, we will continue tomorrow. Anyone else got an opinon on who to sit?

snacktastic

November 24th, 2012
9:30 pm

What falcon21 said. Play Spoon, sit Samuel and Jones until Thursday. McClain, Douglas, and Davis will come through in their absence.

Arno

November 24th, 2012
9:42 pm

Spoon needs to play simply to renew his joy of wreaking havoc, mayhem, and destruction.

Geo

November 24th, 2012
9:58 pm

There was some music discussion on this most excellent blog a while back, so I’m gonna share this for those Cagers and anyone else, because Tom Petty is one of those artists we can all agree on. Enjoy!

http://www.pastemagazine.com/video/tom-petty-and-the-heartbreakers/776093584

Go Falcons!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
6:26 am

Let Spoon play if he’s ready. Our defense needs its leader back and in a groove.

Let Jones and Samuel sit. We need them healthy .

Yet….what I think will happen is that Jones and Spoon will play….

Wings

November 25th, 2012
8:20 am

Advice that Mike Smith should heed from article title in AJC:

Atlanta Falcons: Greg Schiano has Bucs playing until the final whistle

The article is worth reading.
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/11/24/atlanta-falcons-greg-schiano-has-bucs-playing-until-the-final-whistle/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_falcons_blog

How did he all of a sudden develop the number one rushing defense? And does the running back automatically determine how the rushing game goes? I didn’t like this coach when I first read of him, but he will out coach many of his opponents.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
9:17 am

Big game today…

Not only to retain our spot atop the NFC, but just to get a better read regarding the direction of this team. Has this team topped, or is our best football ahead of us? This is a day where some of those questions could be answered.

Coming off a tough week last week [despite getting the win], we have our work cut out for us. There really isn’t a better test on the remainder of our schedule for this defenses ability to stop the run. Doug Martin has been an explosive back this season. Can our run defense improve and eliminate giving up those big plays? I’ll definitely be watching for that.

Offensively, we’re coming off our worst performance of the season. Curious to see the the reaction to last week’s debacle against the Cards. The Bucs have one of the better run defenses in the league, but are near the bottom of the league in terms of pass defense. In other words, if our pass happy style can’t succeed against the Bucs defense, than we might have some problems.

I don’t expect all of our problems to just go away. But, we have to start playing better football, rather than just being content with a win. This team will be in the playoffs, that’s a given. And yeah, there’s no way of winning a playoff game right now in week 12, but as the season dwindles, it’s time to start playing our best football. Get rollin’. We have a tough turnaround vs. NOLA 4 days from now, so it’d be a nice time to get things going now. Winning 2 games in 4-5 days would be a great feeling, but I’ll be watching more intently how they’re playing. Are they playing well enough to beat anybody in the league.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
9:52 am

Lame day? Tame day? No. GAME DAY.

And I think I’ll just beat that dead horse a few more times and say it’s a HUGE one. The Falcons know it. Even if they’re flat on the first drive or two (which I don’t think will happen), they’ll get it turned around quickly. We can’t afford to sleep on anyone left on our schedule.

Unca' Bob

November 25th, 2012
9:53 am

There is an awful lot of people out there picking the Bucs to win today.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
9:53 am

I saw this on Friday and I think it is good advice:

When you are arguing with an idiot, make sure the other person isn’t doing the same thing.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
9:54 am

Unca’Bob I saw those picks as I was reading this morning. Maybe they are wishing.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
10:05 am

According to Adam Schefter, both Spoon and J.Jones will play today…

Eric C.

November 25th, 2012
10:08 am

Unca’ Bob, there sure are. The Bucs are over-achieving and on a hot streak. The Falcons are looking cold and stale against weaker opposition. I guess it is all in the perception. Has anyone gotten any updates on Weatherspoon et. al?

I agree with some others…Weatherspoon needs to get back on the field now…THIS is the big game he has rested for!

If the Falcons win this game, then the Thursday night game is not as important, and the Falcons will all but have the division sewed up — a 4 game lead with 5 to go!

C’mon Falcons…take the division today!!!

JJ

November 25th, 2012
10:11 am

Unca’Bob, If we dont tackle better and at least slow down little dougie hamster, then this could get ugly. With 8 in the box, its a bad time to not have asante. Hope the no huddle comes back today and how many turner meet wall wasted plays well have. If we avg 50 offensive plays a game, lets not waste 15+ plays against the #1 run defense.
Do not think they can contain DM, hope Im wrong. Looking for a huge day from him (FFL) and another comeback win from MattyIce 31-28.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
10:25 am

The similarities between UGA media coverage and Falcons media coverage are striking.

Eric C.

November 25th, 2012
10:35 am

If we ever needed the running game…this is the day.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
11:00 am

Tackling?!?! IMO, tackling can’t be coached-up. IMHO, tackling is a mindset, attitude…and swag. Players gotta want to tackle, to be good, great at it. Most of the great tackling teams in the pass and current NFL have taken on the attitude of their Head Coach. Take the Falcons for instance, the entire defense seem to have problems tackling, is the team as a whole terrible at tackling? IMO, tackling, or the lack thereof, is one of the very first things (symptom) you start to see when there’s a problem at Head Coach position.

Tackling has been a problem for the last 2-3 years, we’ve changed Def. Coordinator, problem still rearing it’s ugly head. The only constant is, well, I choose not to go there today.

In summation, our tackling problems are systemic. IMHO.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
11:33 am

Falcons CB Asante Samuel, listed as questionable with a shoulder injury, is starting today vs. Tampa Bay. according to Adam Shefter.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
11:55 am

According to Tom Jackson of ESPN, Atlanta has played the easiest schedule of all teams. He did not mention how it was determined but is probably won-lost records at this point.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
12:03 pm

Interesting? Lawrence Sidbury inactive today. Means Mattews, Massaquoi have moved up on the depth chart, one of the two will be Abes back-up. Somethings going on with Sidbury…looks if though this will be his last season in a Falcons uni. If he (Sidbury) can play in the league, he deserves to be released…catch on with a team that will give him a chance. I’d like to see him get some chances, in a Falcon uniform, or with another team.

…Also noticed Travian is active today, don’t know if its because Jerry being inactive due to injury? or if he’s earned playing time, tossed in the fire to help minimize Martin today is a tall order. I’ll stay tuned on this one.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
12:30 pm

We get all of our stars back today.

Spoooooooooooooon is back!

Asante is playing!

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
12:48 pm

Julio is stated to be in better health than last week–Jay Glazer.

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
12:56 pm

The talking heads pretty much says the Falcons have no reason to show up for this game, we shall see!

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
12:57 pm

Spoon is likely healthy after that long rest. JJ? Not so sure, but hopefully he won’t be put in positions that challenge that probably still sore shin/ankle (which is it by the way?). I’ve heard people question Julio’s heart, but seems to me like he wants to be on the field as much as any pro athlete.

Jerry is hurting, so Travian is active. If we see more of the 3 DT sets, we should see more of Travian. Holmes is also active, so perhaps there’s a chance to see some of the faces some of us have been wondering about, except of course at RB.

Something just irks me about that whole “easiest schedule” mantra. Every team the Falcons have played have one more loss than many teams BECAUSE they played the Falcons. So the concept of having played “easiest schedule” penalizes a team for winning; unless the comparison is somehow generated by factoring the games that Falcons opponents have lost to teams other than the Falcons.

I don’t see the Falcons offense playing two terrible games in a row, so as long as the defense is reasonably proficient, we should come out of this one 10-1.

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
12:59 pm

Tampa has a good rush and a poor secondary, I hope Ryan has a quick release today.

Unca' Bob

November 25th, 2012
1:00 pm

Let’s tee it up!!

Arno

November 25th, 2012
1:04 pm

Who bit on that fake ??

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:05 pm

Dang…so all of our injured folks are playing in this game?

Either somebody is worried about this divisional game or….they’re all feeling really good.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:05 pm

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:05 pm

It’s not that I have a problem with a first down run. But MT33 wasn’t even running when he hit that hole the first time. At least he was moving his feet on 2nd down. And the 3rd down conversion to JJ keeps the drive alive

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:06 pm

Quizz! We need more of THAT play.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:06 pm

Why don’t the Falcons listen to me?

Run from the shotgun.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
1:06 pm

Toss Sweep! Imaging that!

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:06 pm

Quizz can be a full time back, if you call the right running plays

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:07 pm

There we go….Snelling at FB and Rodgers at HB….and we are getting results EARLY.

I’m doing my best not to toot our collective horns…but it is so difficult….LOL

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:09 pm

Good dump-off because the defense was all over our WRs….

But checking down to Turner is like watching molasses roll off a glacier….sorry…

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:09 pm

Dhunt – exactly.

Big Lou – exactly.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:10 pm

How can the announcer say everyone was covered when Tony G was so wide open over the middle?

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:11 pm

Great start on offense. Can’t say too much bad about Turner, but Quizz is looking really good.

Keep it up.

Let’’s go!!!!!!!!!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:11 pm

Busted play. Mason Foster is a stud…

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:12 pm

Terrible play call. Jesus, lucky it wasn’t picked

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:12 pm

It was a good call, just a better play by the offense.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:13 pm

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:13 pm

Good drive, hate to just come away with 3 points, but we logged a lot of minutes on that already shaky Tampa defense, and showed we can run against a good run defense.

Is it to much wishful thinking to hope Ryan can see that shovel pass is completely covered up and at least try to make a play somewhere else?

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
1:13 pm

3 pts? we still have 3rd down, short yardage problems.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
1:14 pm

They start crawling when inside the 30. Put the ball into endzone.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:16 pm

I’ve come to grips with the fact that the Falcons are never going to be the most exciting team in the league. Just so long as we keep winning…

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:17 pm

Dhunt

There wasn’t a play anywhere else, because the line hit him as he pitched.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
1:17 pm

Not too bad a start despite only getting 3 out of it.

Running on Tampa ain’t easy, and to see us have the success we did early on the ground is a good sign.

Lets see if the run defense is any better.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:17 pm

You can tell it was a scripted play…

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:17 pm

Good recovery tackle by Dent.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:18 pm

Another one by Dent. He sniffed the play, but couldn’t do more than make the tackle. Better than nothing, you crawl before you walk.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:19 pm

TB O-line is blowing folks off the line of scrimmage.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:20 pm

We are going to have to pull some tricks to get some pressure. That play the entire defense got stood up and Nicholas was trailing the play.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:20 pm

That was holding.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:20 pm

Safeties were on that play….good stuff.

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
1:20 pm

Someone give Freeman a beer, he has time to drink it!

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:23 pm

Can’t let a guy you hit in the backfield still get 3-4 positive yards.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:24 pm

That entire drive looked too easy.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
1:25 pm

Typical..

That run defense will derail any shot this team has at a Superbowl. Not being able to stop the run makes opponents passing games that much more effective…

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:25 pm

Had no chance. Tampa OL stood our DL up and turned them, LBs and DBs couldn’t get to Martin nearly in time.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:25 pm

Well everything they tried on that drive worked. That last play was simply not good effort in pursuit by the Falcons defense, which allowed Martin to find that cutback lane.

We can win a shootout, if we get the ball into the endzone. but we can also play better on defense.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:25 pm

Got to give it to Tampa. They have a really good offense.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
1:27 pm

We score FG…they score TD’s. Indepth analysis not needed.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
1:27 pm

Time to let Matt Ryan have control. It about scoring points not who is running the ball.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:28 pm

Mike Nolan will adjust.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:29 pm

I’m looking for our defense to stiffen up, but the Tampa offense will not make this as easy as “simply making tackles”, something I’ve been warning of. We may need some takeaways but that can’t come at the expense of being disciplined on defense and making good solid tackles.

That said, we quickly see the importance of scoring TDs instead of falling into the rut of settling for FGs. We need some urgency on offense. One possession each and we’re already playing from behind.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
1:29 pm

Take advantage of the TB pass defense before the run defense gains momentum.

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:31 pm

I know it’s early and only the 1st quarter , but our defense just looked downright pitifu

JJ

November 25th, 2012
1:31 pm

Turner meet wall….love it! :(
wasted play #1

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:31 pm

Our O-line getting stood up at the line of scrimmage = not good.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
1:32 pm

D3, we will sing the blues about MT33 in this game.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:33 pm

Both teams chewing through clock. We need to maxiimze our opportunities.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:34 pm

Typo? Good grief. At least Gonzo was open.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

sigh …..I suppose we simply MUST establish Turner in this game.

Not establish

JJ

November 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

Toss plays from the shotgun works, yet they stick with the I. Idiots.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

HD sighting.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

Not establish THE RUNNING GAME. Just establish TURNER.

DePlane

November 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

My suspicions are Turner are confirmed.

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:35 pm

Good protection on that long first down.

Lord, I loathe Turner. Goes down like a wet blanket.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

It’s worse that just inadequate run blocking. MT33 just isn’t even trying to move his feet and make a play. He should be ashamed that Tony G looks better after making a catch than he does.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

Our OL is pass blocking well…no doubts about that.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:37 pm

Pass protection looking good; run blocking regressed from the first drive.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:37 pm

WHY are we running from this formation? WHY????

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:37 pm

Horrid Oline play on that run.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:37 pm

This penalty is gonna hurt.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:38 pm

Whew…no penalty on us…

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
1:39 pm

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:39 pm

Somebody put Big Lou on the sidelines.

At least HE knows that we run well out of the Shotgun…and with Quizz….

Goodbye Redzone woes….

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:39 pm

RODGERS! Awww yeah.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:39 pm

Why can’t the Falcons just listen to me.

Run from the fing shotgun! The line is built for it.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
1:40 pm

Great block by HD in the end zone!

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:41 pm

Quizz makes a play, that I just don’t think Turner even tries to get outside on that one.

So which defense gets the first stop may actually decide this game.

John Waynesworld

November 25th, 2012
1:41 pm

Nice drive! TG is awesome. Quizz!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:41 pm

I think that particular drive was critical. We needed to answer a TD with a TD.

Fail to do that, and as a team you have to realize that even if you got the field goal, it took you TWO scoring drives…and you STILL did not do what the other team did with just ONE drive.

So…this was a critical drive. And we succeeded. Good job….now we gotta do it again…and again…and again…and so on…

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
1:41 pm

toss sweeps have netted us good yardage today.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:42 pm

Time for the defense to step up.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
1:42 pm

The fact it is Quizz’s first rushing TD indicates the problem. Why did we not use that play against NO. We would be undefeated.

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:43 pm

Nice run, play-call, and blocking.

Can we keep Quizz in the game please?

Time for a stop D

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:43 pm

Big Ray

Thanks. They should make SP the OC, you the Dline coach, and me the RB coach.

Arno

November 25th, 2012
1:43 pm

Good call Big Lou. For today, I’m looking for the Falcons sew up the division in the most aggressive way possible. After that is done, there will be some games to try out a different Kubata from the I formation. But not today.

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
1:43 pm

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
1:45 pm

“Thanks. They should make SP the OC, you the Dline coach, and me the RB coach.” – BL

We would have to hide Smitty’s body well to make any real difference :) .

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:45 pm

Dhunt,

Not just doesn’t go outside…. can’t .

We know where to run now. We also know WHO to run.

Yet something tells me that there will still be attempts to run Turner into a wall at the wrong times, creating a lot of 3rd downs…but hopefully not stalling drives.

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:46 pm

Is Biermann hurt or something? Haven’t seen him out there.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:46 pm

What a horrible penalty. A late hit? Put skirts on the players why don’t you?

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:48 pm

We would have to hide Smitty’s body well to make any real difference

I can’t flatter myself into being a coach…but I’ll take care of the body….

:twisted:

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:48 pm

YYYEAAAAHHH!

Mike Nolan for President!

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:48 pm

Is that..PASS RUSH?!

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:48 pm

Awesome play call, blitz, and tackle by DRob!

Arno

November 25th, 2012
1:49 pm

> > PICASSO < <

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:50 pm

One missed tackle and it all goes wrong. Thank goodness for that penalty.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:50 pm

WTF….was that Nicholas who missed the tackle? It was!

I realize there was some serious holding on that play, but that missed tackle was EGREGIOUS.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:50 pm

D-Rob should be in the slot more often. He can get pressure and probably cover better

Nick cannot miss that tackle ever again in life.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:50 pm

Arno – I caught that!!! LOL

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:50 pm

Finally calling those holds!

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
1:51 pm

Defensive juices starting to flow. I can feel it.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:51 pm

Spoon with the open field tackle…done the right way.

Biermann making a HELL of a play.

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:51 pm

BIER TRUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
1:51 pm

Rush baby, hell yesss!

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:52 pm

PLEASE PUT ANYONE ELSE IN AT PUNT RETURNER!!!!!!!!!!

Dominique “Look to fall down at every chance” Franks is just awful!

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
1:52 pm

NICE! Need to go for the throat here and get the lead working for us. Oh…well it’s nice to dream anyways.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:53 pm

Only dominique can turn that wide open punt into a couple yards.

Can somebody call Mike Smith and tell him this guys sucks!?

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:54 pm

I’m glad we had a heck of a stand.

Great plays by Biermann and DRob to highlight it.

Glad the refs didn’t act like replacement refs.

That said….the non-play by Nicholas is what bugs me. And he wasn’t the only guy to miss a tackle on that play. One of our DBs fouled up, too. His missed tackle was the worst one, though. Can’t have that again.

GO OFFENSE!

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:54 pm

There is Beirman for you. That’s a coverage sack.

And the Falcons make the first defensive stand of the day. Even though they looked bad on that one play that was nullified. These penalties against the other teams offensive line are a testament to good play by the Falcons defensive line. They have to hold us to stop us.

Franks doesn’t even look like he knows what he is doing on punt returns any more. HE HAD 15 YARDS FREE SPACE AND ONLY GAINED 5

John Waynesworld

November 25th, 2012
1:54 pm

D3, Franks runs like he has been told if he loses any more yardage on a return he’s on the street. The last several weeks he has gone purely north and south, even if its for no yardage.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:55 pm

Bad play call. Why two backs?

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:55 pm

hate to nitpick but Roddy should have gone towards the middle of the field…

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:55 pm

What is the deal with this “catch and look” garbage instead of just running. Roddy could have had a first down if he’d just have run. Jeez

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:56 pm

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:56 pm

And there’s your pick. Nice Matty

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
1:57 pm

Matt Ryan loading up…locking in again!

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:57 pm

I still don’t think Matt is great at going through his reads.

HD was wide-open

‘Bout to go behind folks

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
1:57 pm

That was a great play by barber. Jesus!

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
1:57 pm

Matt has got to see the field better than that.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:58 pm

Now we are just getting embarrassed.

Meanwhile I don’t know whether Ryan gets dinged for that pick because he is throwing like he’s worried about D-Linemen batting passes down (and he locked in on the WR)…or is that all Rhonde Barber’s ability to read the play?

JJ

November 25th, 2012
1:58 pm

Truth, noticed that too, hes got to quit zoning in on one player,Barber just read his eyes!

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
1:58 pm

Great play by Ronde. But MR2 cannot continue to stare down receivers and not see the field the way he has been these last few weeks. There were much more open receivers in that pattern, and he did not have to force that ball into Roddy.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
1:59 pm

Hmmm…

It’s very easy for US to see the wide open receiver from our collective armchairs.

Even then…just how wide open is a guy prior to the play?

D3

November 25th, 2012
1:59 pm

Great stand by D. Just saved your @ss Matt Ryan.

Excellent play by the old lion M-Pete

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:00 pm

Nice stand….Papa Lion showing Nicholas (who still has me mad) how to make that critical open field tackle after skirting the block.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:00 pm

Good stand by the defense.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:00 pm

Goal line stand eases the pain.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:01 pm

That qualifies as another great defensive stop by the Falcons, again coming after a turnover. The only play the Bucs ran that worked was a trick play. The defense has been outstanding for the past game and a half.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:01 pm

We turning on our franchise guy that quickly, huh.

Well, Giants fans have done the same with Eli….it’s early….

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:03 pm

That was all Barber. Give the guy credit. It was a perfect throw.

Still, Matt needs to get better at pump faking and tricking the D. He has the time in the pocket today.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
2:04 pm

Big Lou – “Bad play call. Why two backs?”

I saw that too Big Lou. It was strange.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:04 pm

Barber doesn’t make that play and guess what would be said?

“Wow, look how Ryan threaded the needle on that pass”

This throw wasn’t like any of those pick-offs in the last game….and I can think of several “forced throws” that have gone to TG all season long….

Thin line between a great play on offense and an INT sometimes.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
2:04 pm

Calling out 1 flawed play is not exactly turning on him BR, just sayin.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
2:04 pm

Big Ray, with all due respect, Matt is not above critique. IMHO.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
2:04 pm

Have to get the ball down field on first down. We are not playing Tiddly Winks.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:05 pm

Matt is “new” to the pump fake. He doesn’t sell it well. But it’s something else he can learn.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:05 pm

Well, Ryan’s thrown more INTs this year than last year.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
2:05 pm

I think that was sarcasm by BR.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:05 pm

Snelling doesn’t look. He just runs.

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
2:05 pm

I’m not turning on him at all Big Ray but that was a bad decision.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:05 pm

Big Ray, if we can see wide open receivers with the crappy tv camera angles we get, it is a sin and a shame that Ryan can’t see it. And doesn’t even appear to be looking..

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:06 pm

Did I say he was not above critique?

What I did was offer an opinion.

Personally, I think he has a tendency at times which means good/great players can make plays against him. I also think Barber is one of those guys.

Take it for what you will…

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:07 pm

“Did I say he was ABOVE critique” ….I meant to say.

Agreed with Big Lou, give Barber credit….and in doing that you can’t give all the “bad karma” credit to Ryan.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:09 pm

Wings ,

I was beginning to think NOBODY got that. ;)

I’m not near as practiced with sarcasm as SP , I’m gonna have to start calling him Kohi….

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:09 pm

Still say that Snelling should be taking all of Turner’s carries.

Men, we need some speed in the backfield in the worst way. Quizz is quick and agile, Snell is tough and versatile, Turner is slow, but none of them have very much foot speed at all. That screen to Snelling was set up perfectly, but we haven’t the RB’s to take advantage.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:09 pm

I would be much more forgiving if he wasn’t also killing me in FFL these past two crucial weeks leading into the FFL playoffs. lol

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:10 pm

Dhunt ,

You’re right. Ryan isn’t even looking for the open guy. Can we get Chris Redman back?

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:10 pm

Hey…Roddy didn’t look like he was open on that play…there were two guys coming at him. Bad throw.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:11 pm

Nice throw and catch.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:11 pm

Matt is going to throw more picks this year.

Why? Cause this is the first season that they are letting him run the offense.

He will only get better at the progressions.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:11 pm

Turner and “stuffed” keep coming into the same sentence way too much.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
2:11 pm

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:13 pm

Big Lou ,

Who would have figured that throwing the ball more and getting to run the offense more (instead of almost always in scripted plays with a heavy dose of running every game) would result in a higher percentage/chance for picks? Not to mention yardage and TDs….

Oh wait, I do think that some folks asserted this before the season began….

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:13 pm

Julio is getting screwed on all these offensive pass interference calls.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:13 pm

Ball was thrown too tall anyway. Julio has some nuances to learn in the meantime.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:13 pm

BS call. DB was holding and hitting JJ all the way down.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:15 pm

Smitty playing scared again.

Or you could call it clock management.

Depends on the next play we see. Do we take a shot at the endzone again, or do we go the “safe” route and just make a “dink” play and kick the FG?

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:16 pm

Let’s get 7.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:16 pm

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:17 pm

no room to make that play. Bad throw.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:17 pm

Good touch on the throw, but if JJ dragged his right foot he’d have had it.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

Pressure got to Ryan, but somebody was open. Bad throw.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

What a waste. Thought we were supposed to get better at this $hit?

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
2:18 pm

how pathetic is that clock management…

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
2:19 pm

wow..

f’n pathetic…

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:19 pm

F’n missed it. Are you kidding me?

That’s what you get for playing scared Smitty.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:19 pm

Locked in on the goal posts. Bad throw.

Oh wait, that was the kicker. But he had been talking to Matt “Tunnel Vision” Ryan prior to the play, so…bad throw.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
2:20 pm

Smith ICED his own kicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

JJ

November 25th, 2012
2:20 pm

wtf??????????????

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:20 pm

Great play by MR2 to stay up and throw that ball away. It is really a shame that we can’t find a way to score touchdowns when we are inside the 5 yard line.

Don’t know what to say about that field goal attempt.

Guess we will have to call that 1st half a draw. Even though I got the impression that we really did outplay Tampa much better than a 10-10 score would indicate.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

I don’t even…

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:21 pm

Mike Williams has a QB rating that is much higher than Matt Ryan. Bad, bad throw.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
2:22 pm

2nd and goal…I’m running the football. You know they’re gonna blanket the endzone. Hittem with something they’re not expecting.

That debacle of an end to the half all goes on Mike Smith and the coaching.

Half the problem with the run game is the fact that they try to run it when it’s an obvious running down. Run it when they’re not expecting it.

You could’ve ran a fake toss out of that shotgun and then hittem with a shovel pass. All those shotgun runs would’ve got them to respect Quizz’s toss action and could’ve opened things up in the middle of that defense.

Pathetic.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
2:22 pm

Smith playing the law of averages, statistics AGAIN! SMDH…

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
2:23 pm

This game *should be* a blowout.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
2:24 pm

Let’s run the clock out so there is not time to try to score. Let’s use our Field Goal offense. Playing to keep the ball away from TB.

This is SmittyBall!! I have never seen a better example of MartyBall than that last minute.

JJ I think you need to count all of those plays as wasted.

I think Mike Smith is playing Tiddly Winks.

SP you need to carry out your plan ASAP>

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:24 pm

Smitty is acting like he’s scared. I’m really tired of it. BAD throw!

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
2:25 pm

Meh. We tapped a little toe into the offense pool and some things worked very well. You can be sure we won’t see them again. Horrible playcalling, we came to not lose today and that’s exactly what it is prolly gonna result in.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
2:25 pm

The Ryan pick was a boneheaded pick, or a great play by the TB defender, take your pick. I lean more towards it being a boneheaded pick because you know 3 guys are rushing so that should allow you to scan the field better than that.

That one play by itself makes this another nail-biter game. That could’ve been a drive where we took command of this game, but instead, we let them right back in it after the defense had a good series and got that TB offense off the field.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

Wabe ,

That or hand it off on a draw to Quizz.

B…a….d….t…h…r…o….w.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

BR, I get it, and nobody expects him to make every play, and make the right decision every time. Matt Ryan makes the right decisions far more often than he makes bad ones, and makes far more good throws than bad ones. But he’s getting tagged as “elite”, and I want him to be “elite”, and we do point out when other players are a bit less than stellar, and they aren’t even supposed to be “elite”.

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
2:26 pm

“SP you need to carry out your plan ASAP>” – Wings

If the Blankfather gives me the blessing, with pleasure :) .

Unca' Bob

November 25th, 2012
2:27 pm

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:20 pm

I’m with you.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
2:28 pm

There’s something about this team that folks can’t seem to put their finger on…

All folks talk about is the weapons and the potential and yada yada. The thing that they’re having a hard time putting their finger on can be summed up by what we saw in these last 2 minutes. A conservative, take what you get, approach. It’s bogus, and it’s Mike Smith. F the record. He still hasn’t learned from his own shortcomings as a coach. Coaches have to evolve as much as players do, and that drive exemplifies that he still hasn’t got it.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:28 pm

The INT fell right into Barber’s hands. Went right to him, no effort or skill required.

Baaaaaaaad throoooooooow.

I think I have conformity down now. Can I stop my penance?

Wings

November 25th, 2012
2:30 pm

Who on the Falcons coaching staff has decided it is not possible to throw longer passes to Jones and White with those TB less than adequate corner backs.

Also, I see Matt Ryan has been put into some precarious positions on third down by the play calling. It is too predictable.

Greg Mendel

November 25th, 2012
2:30 pm

Adjustments being made. Give it another half. 9-1 is a pattern.

Chop Buster

November 25th, 2012
2:30 pm

CONSERVATIVE, CONSERVATIVE, CONSERVATIVE! We are NOT attacking TB with all of our receivers/TE. Why oh why do we play this way???

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:31 pm

We were better than that score…bad throw included….but you’d never know that by looking at the boxscore.

Defense has been good outside of the first Tampa Bay drive. Even when placed in a short field situation. I think we are seeing the defense begin to get a bit better. Of course, having Spoon back also has a significant impact. Very significant.

Chop Buster

November 25th, 2012
2:31 pm

Wings (2:30) I completely know where you’re coming from.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:32 pm

Wings – once again….you see it….

Funny how we don’t see throws like this in the no huddle….but when is the last time you’ve seen the no huddle?

Let me stop. I must begin penance again for straying from the line. Bad throw.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
2:32 pm

Mike Smith was out coached by a ROOKIE head coach from the college ranks.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:33 pm

WHAT in the hell is #11 wearing on top of his head?

Kid-n-Play strikes again.

P.S. – Bad throw…

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:33 pm

Didn’t know Antone Smith was back. Nice tackle.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:34 pm

Why are we looking at a replay? Bryant fouled up. That simple.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
2:34 pm

Little dougie only had 24 yds in first half, pretty impressive except for that little td he scored.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:34 pm

Great gang tackling there. Nice.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:34 pm

BR: Was it a bad throw?

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:34 pm

Babs with a good play.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
2:34 pm

Yeah Wabe, the talking heads are not Smart enough as of yet to realize the problems we have are systemic, not curable by treating it with new coordinators, we need to go for a cure.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:35 pm

snacktastic …..stop making me question that! I’ve been told already! I cannot stray from the path!

:lol:

JJ

November 25th, 2012
2:35 pm

BR,Your sarcasm is excellent, plz keep it up ALL game, never get old! lol

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:36 pm

Mike Smith “I love what we’re doing, we just gotta punch it in.”

Oh really…

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:36 pm

Actually you might have said one too many hail mary’s… let’s move on.

The conservative coaching can be maddening at times, but be honest about it. We shouldn’t have needed more than 15 seconds to score from the 5 yard line, and w?e got three shots at the end zone. It’s good clock management to not leave time for the other team to even have a chance to score. How many teams have suffered for giving the Falcons an extra 30 seconds?

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:37 pm

This is what happens when you send your DT back into war when he’s not fully healthy. You risk re-injury as bad as we needed him….

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:37 pm

Great……..Peters hurt. Looked like a separated shoulder.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:37 pm

D-Rob with a great tackle in run support.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:38 pm

Damn. Pressure needed a third of a second more.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:38 pm

BR —– It was his ankle in the off-season. Think that was a shoulder injury.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:39 pm

Actually you might have said one too many hail mary’s… let’s move on.

Ah! Absolution!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:39 pm

LOL…..man have we missed Spoon….

JJ

November 25th, 2012
2:40 pm

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:40 pm

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:40 pm

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:40 pm

Spoon and Abe…..great play

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:40 pm

Wasted a good defensive effort.

Guess who blew that one?

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:41 pm

GDMT…………how is he that fkng wide open. Thomas DeCoud just got burnttttttttttttttttttttttt

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:41 pm

Hmmmm.

Bad safety play this drive.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:41 pm

Freakin’ Decoud…..

Oh look….vincent jackson was open…

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:42 pm

Getting better pressure this game

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:42 pm

Freeman making a couple of plays to get the Bucs into scoring position

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:42 pm

Decoud has regressed.

Somebody give Charles Mitchell a cortisone shot.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:42 pm

Thank God Freeman sucks.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:42 pm

Freeman missing wide open guys on this drive….seriously wide open guys….

Dare I say it….

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:44 pm

And then a crazy bad throw to miss a wide open receiver. I’ll take the defensive stop however we can get it. The defensive backfield didn’t do their jobs on that last drive. The D-line and LB’s are playing well today.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:44 pm

Big Lou,

Right. Because our coverage was ridiculously awful. I have no idea WHY, to be honest.

Our pressure was decent though…had Freeman thinking out there, even if we didn’t quite get to him.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:44 pm

DeCoud was burnt yet again.

That wasn’t as easy as these douche announcers making it sound. He had Asante in front and DeCoud in back. Nevermind, I said DeCoud so he definitely would have scored.

BTW, what the hell has happened to our safeties? They looked like All-Pros in the first few games and duds since then.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:45 pm

I have no idea what the problem is with our secondary. Really don’t.

Even with that stand, we’re playing from behind. Time to score some TDs.

We act like we’re allergic to momentum.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:46 pm

I think the Falcons defense will stop the Bucs at least one more time today. I honestly can’t see the Bucs defense stopping the Falcons. Now we just have to hope that the Falcons offense doesn’t stop itself.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
2:46 pm

Don’t worry guys…the team we knew earlier this season will show up in the 4th quarter, like clock-work. SICKNING!!!!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:46 pm

D3 ,

There it is….no idea what’s wrong with our Safeties…

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
2:46 pm

7 points.

It shouldn’t be that difficult for a pass happy team to carve up the 32nd ranked pass defense in the league…

The Falcons have All-Pro’s everywhere, while the Bucs are fielding undrafted FA’s to cover them. Seriously man, carve them up.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
2:46 pm

White and Jones only have 3 catches each. I am convinced Mike Smith came into this game with the intentions of proving the Falcons were capable of running the ball. Why?

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:47 pm

Offense needs to punch in this drive.

Put the pressure on TB.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:47 pm

Crappy playing will get you beat boys. Huge offensive drive here.

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
2:47 pm

“And then a crazy bad throw to miss a wide open receiver. I’ll take the defensive stop however we can get it.” – DHunt

Ryan was traded to Tamba Bay during the time out? I must have missed it.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:48 pm

YEAH!!!!! YEAH!!!!!

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:48 pm

BOOM! First and bomb, don’t mind if I do!

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:48 pm

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Where the Hell has that been the last few games?

Arno

November 25th, 2012
2:48 pm

Chop Buster

November 25th, 2012
2:48 pm

This is the way we should attack TB the rest of the game!!!

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
2:48 pm

how hard was that…

open this ish up.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:48 pm

Wings

You got what you want. Lol!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
2:48 pm

Well, I spoke a quarter too soon. DAMN!!!!! GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

Bad throw,lol.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

SWEET, THANK YOU JULIO!!!!!!!!
Bonus, need the points,D3 is kickin my butt!!!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

Ryan was traded to Tamba Bay during the time out? I must have missed it.

See, that’s why you’re the master at this…. ;)

Unca' Bob

November 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

Now the fans love Matt Ryan again.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

Damn, Damn, Damn. I took Julio out… But didn’t I say earlier that Julio still had the straight line speed to beat any Bucs defender.

AND GREAT THROW BY MATT RYAN!!!

John Waynesworld

November 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

OK, here’s where the defense really has a chance to give us a chance to take control of this game.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

….good throw….?

:twisted:

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
2:50 pm

WOOT! Loving the Freeman – Ryan trade mid-game. Did ya’ll see htat perfect pass to Julio from Freeman. We got the game now…Ryan will throw 3 more interceptions for TB with his massive suckitude. Dumb trade TB, should have kept Freeman.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

Big Lou, Big Lou…..lol…

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

Now let’s defer to our good throw/bad throw authority…BR! What say you?!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

On paper, we really should be up 17 pts, atleast.

LRD

November 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

Julio… sweet…. what up cage! Hope ya all had a wonderful thanksgiving!

Wings

November 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

I think I have the answer:

Coach Mike Smith is trying to create his own REALITY.

Next time get it to White.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

I don’t mind running the football. It’s a pleasant surprise. But, unless you’re gonna use that run game to set up big plays, it’s not being taken advantage of. We’ll never be a team that can win running the football. But, if they can run it effectively enough to get opposing defenses to respect that threat, it makes our offense that much more dangerous.

Again, that last play before halftime should’ve had some play fake action to Rodgers on a toss. We had a few successful plays showing that early, and could’ve taken advantage of that in that particular spot.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

ROFL…y’all done woke him up….

JJ

November 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

Damm, just noticed Cecil Shorts!

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
2:52 pm

Come on, Asante!

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:52 pm

What the F—- Asante Samuel literally just dropped an INT? Chrissake!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:52 pm

Can’t believe Asante drops that….he should have been going the other way.

GREAT pressure that time to affect the throw.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:52 pm

Had a INT. omg…

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:53 pm

Perhaps Asante is a little more hurt than he lets on.

Still, that was a can of corn off the top shelf….ouch…

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:53 pm

Travian Robertson sighting, Think he just tripped up Doug Martin

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:53 pm

Didn’t get the first down. Perfect tackle by McClain.

I LOVE this kid.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:54 pm

Heck of a play by McClain.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:54 pm

And there’s that stud Robert McClain yet again. D@mn that dude is one of the best surprises of the season. He’s got starting material written all over him.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:54 pm

Was that Travian? I hope it was.

Now it’s time for Franks to either fall down or run away from the ball. Or fair catch it.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:54 pm

Looks like they were going for a fake there. Yowsa.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:55 pm

I know what just happened. Schiano tried to pull a fast one.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:55 pm

Now it’s time for Franks to either fall down or run away from the ball. Or fair catch it. — BR

D@mn funny stuff my man. BTW, we’ll go with Option C!

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
2:56 pm

Robert McClain making another play. You can’t stop every pass, but you can be close enough in coverage to make a play and stop the YAC.

I feel the need to complain every single time Franks catches a punt. That seems like such a wasted part of the Falcons overall team effort.

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
2:56 pm

That was a beautiful fair catch, BS, get rid of this guy!

LRD

November 25th, 2012
2:57 pm

I have to admit, I am a bit surprised by lack of rushing yds from Tampa…

Wings

November 25th, 2012
2:57 pm

Based on predictability, Turner will get the ball on first down this time.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
2:57 pm

Guys, might as well get off Franks convo…he’s doing just as told by Smith.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
2:57 pm

Turner sucks. Lol

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:57 pm

Please don’t do that play to Turner anymore. Jeez

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:58 pm

McClain = Grimes substitute…..just sayin’….one guy can play (healthy, hits hard, covers well). The other probably lost his vertical and wants to be paid $8-$10 mil for something he only did in 2009 and 2010.

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
2:58 pm

“I don’t mind running the football. It’s a pleasant surprise.” – Wabe

It is not running that is the problem but more of how and when. We got a little taste of Quizz and Snelling in the same backfield that proves they can run without sacrificing predictability in the passing game. The I formation is not a strong passing formation and everytime we are in it we are not stretching the defense mentally nor physically. Snelling had 2 screens for around 25 yards, that alone is more than enough to create havoc and force defenses to spread themselves. I can hope they see film of it working but if the past is any clue I suspect it will go on the shelf for a year or more lol.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
2:58 pm

SOMEBODY,

You’re probably right.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
2:59 pm

well, conservative I see. Good to see a glimpse of the Falcons of old.

D3

November 25th, 2012
2:59 pm

Terrible route combos yet again. Roddy White and HD literally in the same area. Awful

What a blown opportunity to take control of the game.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

Dhunt, had Julio on my ench as well until I was standing at checkout kroger and saw /BigLou post about JJ health better than last week. Franticaly trying to put him in my lineup at 12:59 and just made it before clock hit 1pm.
Big Lou, owe you SEVERAL drinks IF I wind up beating Mr. Devitt!!!

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

why you have roddy and douglas in essentially the same spot on that last play boggles the mind.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

Busted drive.

Throw to Turner (why?) followed by run plays from ineffective formations….then a 3rd down play where we were forced to do the predictable thing.

Maybe I’m slow, but I get the feeling Smitty and Mularkey got along better than we think.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

Yeah, thats the most logical thing I can come up with BR.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

Bad play selection by the Falcon coaches. I’m appalled.

Unca' Bob

November 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

Is it just me, or have I missed our no-huddle?

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:00 pm

John Waynesworld

November 25th, 2012
3:01 pm

Tha Tampa D is only going to be able to bow up so many times.

Our 3rd WR should be having a field day with both of their starting CBs out.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:01 pm

agreed on the ‘how we run the football’ SP.

a lot of our issues with the run game is that…

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:02 pm

JJ

For sure! I like Crown.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:03 pm

Don’t want to speak too soon, but think that Freeman might be a touch rattled.

Now that I said that, here comes a good play.

Good to see Peters back in the game. Cliff Matt with some good pressure.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:03 pm

Darn near a sack again.

Meanwhile the refs get it right again. Tampa is diiiirty.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:03 pm

If the Falcon Coaches would listen to this blog(offensively), they would be unstoppable.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:04 pm

Sprinkler failure? That’s frickin’ hilarious.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:04 pm

Good to see Corey Peters back out there.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:04 pm

Cliff Matthews getting good pressure.

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
3:04 pm

LRD

November 25th, 2012
3:04 pm

yes..we are at the point where you expect us to put this game away.. and stop here, and then driving for a TD would reinforce ….and then that big play… wow…

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:04 pm

Our corners don’t appear to be looking for the ball.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:05 pm

And of course………………………..

Kroy Biermann just got beat like a rag doll on that one.

Got a fight on our hands.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:05 pm

Horrible route combos but somebody is always open….huh…

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:05 pm

Say what you want to, but DRob’s had a great game so far, especially in run defense.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:06 pm

Owens looking lost.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:06 pm

DeCoud is awful. Trying a shoulder bump on Vincent Jackson.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:07 pm

How the hell did that happen? Babs, you can’t hold on?!

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:07 pm

That’s how you run Michael Turner. When is the last time you’ve seen Turner run like that?

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
3:07 pm

#52 is lost out there.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:07 pm

Ok….love how Dunta has been playing.

McClain with a mistake.

We need a tough stand.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:08 pm

Getting eaten alive now. Wow, talk about a turn of events. 80 yard bomb. Three and out, chance to put the game away……..

Naw, let’em back in the game coach.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:08 pm

Missed INT opportunity by Asante really hurting right now.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:08 pm

Now Samuel is hurt. F’ng great, all our CB’s are getting hurt. Robert McClain, Chris Owens, and Dominique Franks are our starting CBs now.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:09 pm

2013 First Round draft pick………………..Big Boy DT. Not even close. Our DTs are getting their lunch eaten right about now.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:10 pm

Defense breakin’ here…

This is why you gotta have the offense seize control when they have opportunities.

They’ve had 3 opportunities to do that today, and have failed 3 times.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:11 pm

Looking like the offense will have to carry. Defense is getting banged up.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:12 pm

I know we have a full quarter left and I’m not throwing in the towel, but we’re having major issues.

Look like complete BS.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:12 pm

Gotta have a dominant offense, or a dominant defense…

So far, the Falcons have neither.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:13 pm

Good run blocking by Tampa O-line, even better running by Martin. Kid’s a stud.

I’ll bet Schiano will know how to use him as things progress, though.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:13 pm

every f’n week it’s a scratch and claw, grinder of a game.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:14 pm

Wabe

Tampa is a good team. Lol

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:15 pm

I expected this score to be honest.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:15 pm

DePlane

November 25th, 2012
3:16 pm

My suspicions about Turner have been confirmed.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:16 pm

And then you have Turner looking to fall down yet again. So GD predictable.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:16 pm

Even when Turner has space, he wastes time trying to evade people instead of running them over.

LRD

November 25th, 2012
3:16 pm

Can turner just put down his should and run over someone?

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:16 pm

Why is turner in the backfield? God. I don’t even..

Greg Mendel

November 25th, 2012
3:17 pm

Number 1 run defense in NFL, and in Turner we trust.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:17 pm

These coaches are stubborn.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:17 pm

Need to eat up some clock and get a TD.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:17 pm

Well, let’s call it a shoot-out and get going on offense.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:18 pm

we dont trust!!!!!!!!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:18 pm

Still going with Turner.

I am perplexed.

LRD

November 25th, 2012
3:18 pm

See previous comment on puttind won head and just running

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:19 pm

#8 WASTED PLAYS!!!

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:19 pm

Didn’t even see him coming.

BobbyDawg

November 25th, 2012
3:19 pm

Turner AGAIN……….. quit it !

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:19 pm

Let me correct that…still going wwith Turner… up the middle ….

Meanwhile, a free runner on Matt Ryan. Who didn’t block him or otherwise failed to pick up that blitz scheme?

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:20 pm

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
3:20 pm

That fumble was setup from that prior waisted play to Turner.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:20 pm

Coaches are going to lose the game.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:20 pm

D wouldn’t have so many injuries if they could just get off the field. We need a stop here.

JB Falcon

November 25th, 2012
3:20 pm

BL these coaches are not stubborn, they are down right IGNORANT!

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:20 pm

Not going to win big with Turner on our team, because they just put him in regardless off how he’s performing.

LRD

November 25th, 2012
3:20 pm

if our d dont stop. that sack/fumble is the game

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:20 pm

i’d put that last one on Ryan…
he’s gotta see the heat’s coming and get that ball out of his hands.

DePlane

November 25th, 2012
3:21 pm

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:21 pm

Dodged a bullet on that play. I was sure we were offsides.

Greg Mendel

November 25th, 2012
3:22 pm

Josh Freeman is our best hope.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:22 pm

how is this offense struggling to carve up the 32nd ranked pass defense.

i know i’m sounding like a negative troll right now, but I’m heated as f’8888888888.

i’m not buying ish they’re selling until they prove their arses. and they’re struggling yet again with a cast of all pro receivers.

the bucs have UNDRAFTED FA’s covering these guys!

DePlane

November 25th, 2012
3:22 pm

I think ignorant is an apt description. Unbelievable.

Arno

November 25th, 2012
3:22 pm

Take your pick Arthur Blank: MT33 or your fans. Your choice.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:22 pm

Now, will we go for a FG and put our defense back out again, or will we try to get the TD we needed on the previous drive?

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:23 pm

Hey, the guy dropped the easy first down catch, but defense give us another chance.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:23 pm

Paging Mr. Turner…you are urgently requested to go to Magic City, signed Ray Edwards!!!

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:24 pm

Wabe

That was just a great disguise. He inched over after Matt looked away.

Still, we wouldn’t be in that situation if the coaches didn’t waste plays. Their play calling on offense is making sick.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:24 pm

Glad we held them to a FG. We gotta get a TD to have a 1 point lead.

Great return by Rodgers.

Now if the offense can get it the hell together.

Not feeling Smitty at all though.

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
3:25 pm

“Still going with Turner.

I am perplexed.” – BR

“BL these coaches are not stubborn, they are down right IGNORANT!” – JB Falcon

I think JB has the answer BR. Does that make him our Cage “replacement” GM? :) .

BobbyDawg

November 25th, 2012
3:25 pm

Pressure is on for a td.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
3:25 pm

JB – “BL these coaches are not stubborn, they are down right IGNORANT!”

That is the strongest language I have ever seen from you. LOL.

SP, new assignment – Turner first.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
3:26 pm

Actually, if the Smith and Koetter saw knowone was there to pickup the free-runner…they should’ve called a TO!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:26 pm

Wabe ,

That’s just it….Ryan is carving these guys up just fine. He’s got close to 300 yards and is hitting for more than 11 yards per pass play. But we’re WASTING it with the usual CRAP.

BobbyDawg

November 25th, 2012
3:27 pm

I can’t get over the shock of Bryant missing a chip shot.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:27 pm

Well how about that….Rodgers in the game…in the right play…getting yardage…

Now will he disappear again?

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:28 pm

Great play by Quizz after that huge return

DO NOT PUT MICHAEL TURNER BACK IN THE MOTHEREFFIN GAME!!!!!!!!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:28 pm

SP ,

I’m beginning to think my shotgun wedding analogy, meant in jest…is all too serious…

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:28 pm

Why haven’t we been driving like this all game?

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:28 pm

Interesting.

They don’t have turner and they get yards. What a concept.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:29 pm

An HD sighting. I forgot he still played for us

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:29 pm

I’m changing my name to shotgun.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:29 pm

JJ, tough drop

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:30 pm

Should have been a TD?

Couldn’t see on initial camera angle.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:30 pm

Bad throw BR!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:30 pm

WTF was with Ryan’s throw???????

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:30 pm

BAAAAAAAAD THROOOOOOOOOW!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:31 pm

Wow.

Maybe not.

Commentator says Ryan threw it that way on purpose to draw attention to the hold…which got the call.

I didn’t make this up….

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:31 pm

:) lol…yea turner…you still sukk!!!!!

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:31 pm

BOOM! THAT’S how you drive.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:31 pm

Wow.

Maybe not.

Commentator says Ryan threw it that way on purpose to draw attention to the hold…which got the call.

I didn’t make this up….

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:31 pm

TD by Turner.,……………………. He should buy Quizz and Snelling a steak and shrimp dinner for doing ALL THE HARD WORK and letting him reap the rewards.

Well, who cares, we scored a TD.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
3:32 pm

wow, even a too sweep to Turner gets us into the endzone.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:32 pm

Great TD…finally…by Turner…doing what he gets paid to do.

Arno

November 25th, 2012
3:32 pm

MT was on the field for exactly one play on that drive.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:32 pm

Wow…

The pitched the ball and it worked. I guess they are done playing stupid.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
3:32 pm

*toss sweep.

Big Lou

November 25th, 2012
3:33 pm

Wow…

They pitched the ball and it worked. I guess they are done playing stupid.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
3:33 pm

Rogers does all of the work on kick return and drive and Mr. Nothing gets the credit.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:34 pm

D3 – true.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:34 pm

OK defense, can you get one more stop?

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:34 pm

<—— Use me more often!!!!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:35 pm

Quizz is probably very much a team player mindset, but that has to sting after all the hard work he put in.

Mike Smith – that was plain asinine.

Good team blocking on that TD.

BobbyDawg

November 25th, 2012
3:35 pm

Ha Ha Ha when MT came in they thought he was going to run between the tackles. Good call.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:35 pm

Nice stop by Peters.

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:35 pm

Dante is back!

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:36 pm

PPT (Piss Poor Tackling)

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:36 pm

Rodgers – 8 rushing touches, 4.5 yards per carry.

Turner – 10 rushing touches, 2.1 yards per carry.

Just sayin’. I don’t want to hear anything about needing enough touches to “get into a rhythm.”

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:36 pm

Where’s the holding call!?

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:37 pm

D needs to ice the game.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:37 pm

GREAT play by McClain. Saved our butts on that one.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:37 pm

Great play by McClain, almost amazing if he would have had the pick.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:38 pm

THAT’S NOT HOW YOU ICE THE GAME!

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:38 pm

And they’re in field goal range. F——————

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:38 pm

Nicholas overmatched by TE.

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:39 pm

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:39 pm

GREAT play by Dent.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:39 pm

Nice play by Dent.

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
3:40 pm

Good job Dent.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:40 pm

NEED A TURNOVER!!!

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:40 pm

That’s TWO missed picks by Samuel.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:40 pm

Another dropped INT attempt by Asante.

I’m saying he has GOT to make those plays, but it is CLEAR he is not healthy. At all.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:40 pm

Samuel drops a huge INT. Still think that Samuel is just not even close to 100%.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:41 pm

NOT HOW YOU ICE THE GAME.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:41 pm

ALRIGHT, MAKES UP FOR MATTY BRYANT MISSING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let’s go Falcons!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:41 pm

SWEET.

Excellent stand by the defense, culminated really in a great tackle for loss by Dent. Kid has talent and potential, and is making good.

Now LET’S GO offense.

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:41 pm

Don’t play conservative! Punch it in!

BobbyDawg

November 25th, 2012
3:41 pm

We’ve got more experience at winning these late close ones than they have.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:42 pm

See what Rodgers just did? THAT’S how you ice the game.

DePlane

November 25th, 2012
3:42 pm

Yes! Now let’s put the nail in the coffin dang it!

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:42 pm

Look who is NOT IN THE GAME?

Keep Quizz in the MFn game already. Chrissake!

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:42 pm

Rodgers > Turner

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:42 pm

HOW ABOUT THAT?

Rodgers finds a hole and gets a first down.

Until we get a “complete” RB that has more speed, THIS IS OUR GUY.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:42 pm

Helluva block by Mike Cox.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:42 pm

Two-minute offense should give us the win.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:43 pm

Like commentator says…we are playing too many tight games. And we’re doing that right now.

Need to get down the field.

I don’t like Smittyball…even if it makes us 10-1.

No need for this game to be this tight.

Arno

November 25th, 2012
3:44 pm

An Adderall two minutes.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:45 pm

But Arno, Joe Hawley isn’t in this game…

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:45 pm

Well, one first down should ice the game. Let’s go offense!

I give the defense a lot of credit on stopping the muscle hamster.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:45 pm

Wouldn’t mind seeing a fake sweep into a screen or something…

Keep it safe. Keep the clock tickin.

Matty Bicep

November 25th, 2012
3:45 pm

Dent making key plays at critical moments, who was that coming?

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
3:45 pm

I want a TD.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:46 pm

I’m absolutely fine with Rodgers playing second fiddle to a guy that is better than him.

But that is not the case here.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:46 pm

Huge 3rd down play…………….I know, Captain Obvious

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:46 pm

BTW….how about some cred to our defense. Every single talking head said Doug Martin was gonna roll all over us. He has 51 yards on 21 carries.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:46 pm

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:47 pm

Martin’s stats look like Turner’s stats.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:47 pm

And of course Roddy “Clutch” White…………………….

Awesome

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:47 pm

Huh….

Same play, same throw, same WR.

First down.

Last time it was an INT.

I wonder what happened….

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:48 pm

….or didn’t happen….

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:48 pm

You got that right BR. Shut his tail right down.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:48 pm

wp#10, 10 focking plays wasted on mt33!!!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:48 pm

STOP THE INSANITY.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:49 pm

#11, geezlawieezee!!!!!!!!!!!!

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:49 pm

What in Lords name was that? Turner not only doesn’t gain a yard, but loses 7. Are you frackin’ kidding me?

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:49 pm

Turner took us out of FG range. Idiot.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:49 pm

Would you kick a FG and risk missing it and setting up the Bucs?

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:50 pm

SP had it right….playing not to lose. We’ll win 27-23 barring any mishaps or Murphys….

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:50 pm

Wabe – Smittyball.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:51 pm

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:51 pm

Murphy strikes for the second time….

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:51 pm

You see, I would’ve punted it…

Why even try the FG?

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:51 pm

NO GOOD, FOCKFOCKFOCK…smittyball sukksssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:51 pm

Freeman is no Matty Ice.

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:51 pm

Matt Bryant….

I hate you.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:52 pm

Mike Smith has his percentages/averages cards and his lottery tickets mixed up.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:52 pm

You kidding me? So now instead of just going for a first down, we have a chance of actually losing this one.

If we lose, we absolutely deserve to.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
3:52 pm

Punt would’ve taken time off the clock and pushed them back.

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
3:52 pm

Why in the hell do we makes things so hard?

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:52 pm

Wabe

I agree.

BobbyDawg

November 25th, 2012
3:53 pm

Bryant having a bad day hardly ever happens. He gets a pass as far as I’m concerned……….unless we lose.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
3:54 pm

DEEFENSE GETS THE GAME BALL!

Arno

November 25th, 2012
3:54 pm

Mike Smith: “We found ANOTHER was to win.”

Matty Bicep

November 25th, 2012
3:54 pm

Ho Hum…..Smitty wins another chess match. Outcoached by a rookie? I think not.

Man, there are some clowns on here.

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:54 pm

Asante is a soldier. Game ball.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
3:54 pm

Asante makes one last play and SAVES MIKE SMITH’S ASS.

Yes, I mean that…every word.

Samuel won’t be available for the next game. Book it. He used everything he had in THIS game.

snacktastic

November 25th, 2012
3:54 pm

falcon21, that’s the question of the season. Last year, we’d just lose. This year, we barely win. Maybe next year it’ll all click and we’ll be as dominant as we’re supposed to be.

LRD

November 25th, 2012
3:55 pm

Wow… can we try any harder to give a game away>???

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
3:55 pm

Our coaching staff tried to give it away…our players wasn’t hearing it!

BobbyDawg

November 25th, 2012
3:55 pm

I’m just glad I didn’t forget to take my blood pressure pill today.

Arno

November 25th, 2012
3:55 pm

At least the Saints have a nice little love note from the Falcons as they go out to face the 49rs.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
3:55 pm

Come on SF!!!!!!!!
Put this div to rest!

Matty Bicep

November 25th, 2012
3:56 pm

Unca Bob, you just told me everything I needed to know about you. D3, I think somebody needs to be banned.

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:56 pm

Bryant’s injury may be more serious than indicated. Hope he’s okay.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:57 pm

And there’s your ballgame.

I’ll have all week to talk about the issues we have, but for now, DMT, I’m enjoying the hell out of this win. That puts us about 4 games ahead in the division with 5 games to go and we beat a darn good football team on the road.

10-1 Baby!

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
3:57 pm

Hear ya Snack!

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
3:58 pm

QUIZZ! Most valuble player.

D3

November 25th, 2012
3:58 pm

And Seattle loses, Ha Pete Carroll, you suck.

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
3:58 pm

Matty

Did you just post on UB’s name? You’re pathetic.

Also, coaches almost cost the game. It shouldn’t even be this close.

Unca' Bob

November 25th, 2012
3:59 pm

JJ,

My hope is the niners pound the ain’ts. Make them weak. Look forward to Thursday.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
4:00 pm

Well, our defense came ready to stop the run and did exactly that. I wasn’t sure it would go down that way, but I’m proud of our guys. NOBODY has done that to Martin except the Cowboys, who held him to 53 yards in Week 3. Martin did have 2 TDs, but he’s a very talented RB and even then it doesn’t happen without Tampa’s very strong O-line.

Held Freeman to a pedestrian 250 or so yards and NO TDs.

I’ll take that.

Consider what it would have been if not for two dropped sure INTs. I’ll still take it.

But I fear we’ve lost Asante for a week or more. Problem with that is guys like Owens and Franks get in the game then…and I don’t trust those guys.

JB Falcon

November 25th, 2012
4:00 pm

Big Lou, I know deem you as “shotgun.”

Matty Bicep

November 25th, 2012
4:00 pm

Did not, D3 knows, right? D.

John Waynesworld

November 25th, 2012
4:00 pm

GAME OVER!

Game ball goes to the D for caging the Hamster and keeping V Jackson out of the endzone, as I predicted.

Great road game VICTORY!!!

Wings

November 25th, 2012
4:03 pm

It was the best game to watch this year save maybe the Denver game. Some frustration.

I wish the Falcons would win a game by wining the game instead if wining the game by the other team losing it.

Big Lou I like that name.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
4:03 pm

Well, Bryant did play for the Buc’s before we signed him…maybe he laid down a inside bet. Thats all I can come up with. LOL….HAHAHAHAHA….

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
4:03 pm

Big Ray

Glad we are the same page! Asante is a true leader.

Gotta give credit to our rush defense. They had a heck of a game. Spoon makes a huge difference.

My grades:

Defense: B+(Impressive on containing the run)

Offense: B(overcame bad play calling)

Coaching: D(only cause they won)

Special teams: C-(Bryant cost 6 points)

Falcon 34

November 25th, 2012
4:04 pm

And the true troll reveals himself………………..

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
4:04 pm

Alright. I’ve had it.

I think we know who has the most issues.

There is nothing worse than an adult so in need of attention on a damn blog that he has to resort to libel of the most puerile sort in order to achieve it.

Any moron would know that “Coooooons” is short for Falcons. Then again, I do not seek to insult morons in such fashion, so I apologize to all the morons out there in the cyber world.

I think somebody wants to be banned so he can complain to the AJC of censorship and hopefully after winning that little battle, get D3’s blog shut down.

Yes, that is likely the strategy, considering the cheap chip shot against the forum moderator.

falcon21

November 25th, 2012
4:05 pm

D3, I think we have all had enough of you know who. UB said nothing wrong.

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
4:05 pm

“Use me more often!!!!” – Shotgun

Yay!! Weve finally corrupted Big Lou. Welcome to the club!

Coop

November 25th, 2012
4:05 pm

I like the punt idea. I can’t believe Turner ran backwards. He is unbelievably awful this year. Quizz may be the MVP. I know it’s MR2, but that first down run after TB missed kick was huge.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
4:06 pm

Kudos to the defense and Rogers. How long can Smith continue in his denial?

I hope HC Smith has nightmares with Turner losing yardage on play after play.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
4:06 pm

Big Lou ,

I like the new handle.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
4:07 pm

UB, agree!

MB, although this will give JB some thrills, there are multiple other falcon blogs for you to vent. Instead of acting like a pathetic jilted person, go to other falcon sites or change your moniker and try again. But be warn, BR is very good at detecting bloggers who change names. I always think its crapapple joe so I dont have a clue…lol.

Coop

November 25th, 2012
4:07 pm

BR – Concur

Matty Bicep

November 25th, 2012
4:08 pm

34, call me what you like, when you morons were pontificating about going 0-6, I was TRYING to bring Dent into the conversation. So, he makes maybe the play of his career to this point at a pivotal moment…..Then a guy who called me an idiot spews racist crap. (Again RIGHT, you have the IP).

Yea, I am the troll…..Who brought the cage down.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

November 25th, 2012
4:10 pm

What was up with that UB post?

D3 rightfully deleted it. I ‘m thoroughly surprised at that. We in the cage never use that filthy, disgusting trash in here. I am appalled!

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
4:10 pm

SP

Lol! I admit… the coaching was completely sickening this game on offense. You gain so many yards on offense from running through the shotgun or doing sweeps…. yet they stick with molasses turner/run from the power I. It just baffles me.

Mike Nolan on the other hand… Love it.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
4:11 pm

It’s whatever…

Another ‘a win’s a win’ type game.

Happy with the improvement in rush defense and happy to see us have some success in the run game offensively.

With that said, it’s another grinder. I don’t like seeing us in a grinder when our defense locked up Doug Martin. The offense has to capitalize on opportunties to take control of games. We’ve seen examples all year of our offense not taking control when given the opportunity.

Just 2 weeks back, we’re up 7-0, and Asante picks off Drew Brees, gives us great field position, but we only got 3.

This offense has to be great. They’ll only go as far as the offense takes them. The Bucs weren’t all that great. Had our offense capitalized on any one of the 3 opportunities we had to build a double digit lead, this game might’ve not been as close as it was.

Matty Bicep

November 25th, 2012
4:11 pm

I am very offended by the pet name of the coons, it goes way back. I know exactly what it means.

Funny you accuse me of stealing someones screen name, then when it is apparent it was not me….then you try and justify it….I will have to see what the Cox family thinks.

I have been in this town a long time. Don’t piss on my leg and tell it is raining.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
4:12 pm

I see Rodgers working so hard out there, regardless of what he’s asked to do.

How much more can you possibly do? Why does he still play second fiddle to a guy who no longer can play the fiddle worth a damn half the time?

Yeah, I know Turner scored and I’m grateful for that. But it wasn’t by virtue of his talent/capability…and I hate to say that but it’s true.

The numbers again, because only 2 carries and 1 catch separated these two RBs, the touches in Turner’s favor

Turner : 13 rush carries – 17 yards, 1.4 yards per carry.

Rodgers : 10 rush carries – 49 yards, 4.9 yards per carry.

Turner : 3 receptions – 13 yards.

Rodgers : 2 receptions – 30 yards.

I don’t understand what the confusion is….why is one guy still getting more touches than the other guy???

Wings

November 25th, 2012
4:12 pm

SP – “Yay!! Weve finally corrupted Big Lou. Welcome to the club!”

Yes he has become more tolerant. Good work Shotgun today!!!!!!

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
4:14 pm

“I always think its crapapple joe so I dont have a clue” – JJ

If it walks and talks like a fruit…coud be a clue :) .

Congrats Falcons D for a win. Thank you Asante for putting it all on the field. Others will get credit but your heroism didn’t go unnoticed. Falcons O, we see it but can’t help ya unless you help us. Whisper in Blank’s ear… hint hint.

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
4:15 pm

Wings

I’ve always been tolerant. I just don’t agree always. Part of a healthy blog!!!!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
4:15 pm

4:08 pm post confirms what I already knew .

Let’s continue to let fools talk to themselves. What a pathetic strategy.

And yeah….no complaints of racial remarks coming from one sizeable and knowledeable black guy – me.

I think the Cox family may not be stupid enough to go for this sort of drivel, but I guess some folks think everybody is less intelligent than they are.

DHunt

November 25th, 2012
4:15 pm

I’m extremely proud of the run defense. If they had a plan to stop the Bucs sudden tendency to dink and dunk the defense might have pitched a real shutout today. Doug Martin got just enough burn to not kill my FFL, but still no doubt that the Falcons can hold a good RB in check when they have to. This was a great division win, on the road. A lot of people laid this out as a huge game for the Falcons. Many people said we couldn’t win if the offense made mistakes (which it did). So the simple fact that we got the W should be praised and celebrated. Game balls today go to Quizz, for a great showing on offense and a huge kickoff return when the game was very much in question, abd the entire defense for holding a decent offense to 23 points, holding the line after yet another turnover, and stopping the run and big play that Tampa has lived on all season.

The defense came to play, and did what they had to do to keep the Bucs well under their offensive averages for the year. Asante showed a lot of heart playing in pain today. McClain showed that he can be a starter for the Falcons. Spoon showed his leadership.

The offense was hobbled by the decision to keep MT33 in the game. I really don’t want to be hard on a Falcons player after a big win, but the evidence of mine eyes simply is what it is. Everything that Turner was asked to do, Quizz or Snelling showed that they could do it better. Nobody was going to run the ball much inside against Tampa. But Quizz and Snelling showed today that when it comes to screens they are head and shoulders better than Turner. Quizz showed that he can run the ball as well as Turner. The team moved better without Turner, because the defense cannot key on the limited things that Turner can do. It is now time for the passing of the torch. Maybe you can’t cut him just yet, but you can limit Turner to those few plays when you need a bruising back.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
4:16 pm

SP – that’s an insult to fruit…LOL.

Shotgun(Big Lou)

November 25th, 2012
4:16 pm

JJ had a great game. Glad to see him off the injury.

JB Falcon

November 25th, 2012
4:17 pm

JJ, I’m in. I don’t know another description other than “unbelievable”. I’ve already used IGNORANT so maybe IDIOT?

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
4:17 pm

“Mike Nolan on the other hand… Love it.” – Shotgun

Agreed. I actually don’t like slingin stuff at the coaches but sometimes it just gets so infuriuating. Ok, maybe I do like it a little lol.

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
4:18 pm

Dhunt ,

Agreed on all counts….

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
4:21 pm

Wabe,

No good reason to see us in a grinder.

For a while…I was about the record and the “relative success.”

But this can really wear a team down…and now we’re down a CB I’m sure…one we need in the game. And we still can’t be sure of our own team.

Matty Bicep

November 25th, 2012
4:22 pm

Good Analysis Dhunt. We are witnessing the changing of the guard. It is not a sprint, I believe this system will produce a few SBs before they MR2 is done. They just “get it”.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
4:26 pm

Does anyone get the feeling that were winning inspite of smittyball?
Of course, nothing will change with our highest winning coach in franchise history but Id trade him for that young TB coach in a heart beat. Yea, we win inspite of Mike Smith IMHO!!!!!!!

Big Ray

November 25th, 2012
4:26 pm

There was no reason to “find a way to win” in this game. We should have dominated that game. We were good enough to do so once it was clear we could stop the run.

Can’t do this in January. Just can’t.

I’m glad for the win because this wasn’t a game we won last year and this gives us an even bigger lead in the division. Plus, we are a step closer to that home field advantage…well…which isn’t proven for us in the playoffs, but we’ll take any edge we can get…real or perceived…

Very glad for the win.

Very unhappy about some of the coaching, however.

Rodgers…again…does all he is asked to do and then some. I don’t understand why he isn’t our top RB, the guy who gets the most touches/carries. I do understand why we still have Turner on the field, but even a fool should be able to see who is effective in a game and who is not…who produces…who doesn’t….who fits…who doesn’t.

Some of the decisions were crazy.

Yet, we played well enough to overcome that and win. We only had 2 turnovers and our defense was good enough to hold the Bucs down from what they are used to.

Liking the result, worried about the methods.

10-1 we are…

D3

November 25th, 2012
4:27 pm

It’s a tough win on the road, but we’re definitely making it much harder on ourselves than we need to…..period.

As long as Smitty sticks with Turner on offense, it simply is not going to be what we all know it can be. What else does Quizz need to do to get 70% of the touches.

Wabe

November 25th, 2012
4:27 pm

As stupid as it makes me look, a Saints win wouldn’t be all that bad for the Falcons…

It’d put us up multiple games for homefield advantage.

JJ

November 25th, 2012
4:29 pm

Blasphamy Wabe!!!!!!!

Matty Bicep

November 25th, 2012
4:30 pm

But anyway, did I not call Dent? Guy played a heck of a game, we shut down the Hamster, and he makes a huge play late. Really, I had to pull teeth to even acknowledge Dent.

Really, you guys were so freaking tweeked out because I dared question D3s proclamation that we are gonna lose out as overly negative, you just overlooked the guy who very well might be the linchpin who gets this team a trophy.

Sorry to pizz on your parade, but, well, Karma is a @@@@@.

Coop

November 25th, 2012
4:30 pm

Wane – Agreed. I’m torn. I guess, either way we win. I like the home field advantage, but I’d love the Saints to miss the playoffs.

Wings

November 25th, 2012
4:30 pm

Shotgun you have become more laid back is what I was trying to say and meant both comments 100% positive.

The effort by the defense was truly outstanding even with the few issues.

The players won this game by overcoming the coaching on the offensive side of the ball.

Slant Pattern

November 25th, 2012
4:32 pm