Atlanta Falcons: Birds Squeak by Raiders to 6-0

Another Win with a Sloppy Effort

Falcons defensive end John Abraham forces a fumble with a hit on Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer during the third quarter Sunday at the Georgia Dome. Falcons defensive end Ray Edwards recovered the fumble and advanced it to just short of the end zone.

Thank Goodness for Abe (AJC)

The Atlanta Falcons are the only undefeated team in the NFL, so why do fans feel so nervous or unfulfilled? After roaring out of the gates to a 3-0 start and looking excellent in all phases of the game, the Birds have come back to Earth a bit and looking pedestrian in all areas of the game, especially on offense. On one hand, the team is showing mettle, heart, and determination in finding ways to win, even if very ugly. However, if it continues for several weeks, a disturbing trend begins to take shape and what once was a strength starts to become a weakness because the team is putting itself in positions to have to win at the last minute due to the overall poor play. The fact is that the Falcons are 6-0, even though they’ve not looked very good lately. But isn’t getting a win, however you attain it, better than losing? Many teams thought to be “dominant” by the media elite talking heads have suffered losses to teams believed to be at the bottom. That speaks to NFL’s parity and winning the first 6 games, however it’s done, is a testament to the Falcons, their coaches, and their players. Whether or not it will serve to benefit or harm in the future is yet to be determined, but the reality is that the Falcons are undefeated and 31 other teams are not. A look at the Raiders game……….

Once a Strength is Becoming a Weakness

At first, it was a great strength showing determination, mettle, and finding a way to win at the last second. The Falcons didn’t play great against an inspired Panthers team coming off a bye week. They willed themselves to a win with less than a minute. Then came a Redskins game that was filled with major mistakes, slogging around, until they finally put together a TD drive and subsequent defensive stand to win the game. OK, it’s on the road and the Redskins have shown a lot of promise. A third week in a row of not playing good is a disturbing trend and is now becoming a weakness. Fact is, the Falcons are putting themselves in these situations where they must scratch and claw from behind to win the game. No other series identifies it better: Asante Samuel makes a beautiful pick six to seemingly put the game away. Then the Raiders offense commences to go right down the field to score with two minutes and not needing any of their 3 timeouts. Once a great strength of character and will is simply becoming a product a weak and sloppy play.

Matt Ryan’s Bad, Bad Day

Quarterback Matt Ryan picks up yardage on a quarterback keeper, escaping the pressure from Raiders defensive tackle Richard Seymour during the second half.

This is About Right (AJC)

Let’s all hope it was just one of those days because it was a really bad one. Ryan threw 3 interceptions (all weren’t necessarily his fault), but some were. He seemed to have happy feet due to poor offensive line play. Not all was on him, but he had plenty of bad throws and misfires all on his own. He missed open receivers, threw the ball high, and generally had an awful day all around. Maybe it was just a bad day against a well-schemed defense. Perhaps the play-calling didn’t help any. The lack of running game surely isn’t helping and neither are the drops. Ryan’s had an excellent year to date, but he needs a game like he had vs. San Diego to erase the Raiders performance.

Abraham the Ageless Wonder

Thank goodness the Falcons found a way to keep John Abraham. The guy is a complete stud and is warming up his Ring of Honor flag as we speak. We as fans always mention Tony Gonzalez when discussing a Falcon that defies age. But Abraham deserves that praise too. He turned 34 this year and many (including this author) wondered how much he had left in the tank. Well, he’s proving once and for all just how awesome he is and by default how anemic our pass rush is without him. He notched 3 sacks, forced a fumble at a crucial time, and got several holding calls against him. In short, he was unblockable. Already, he has 6 sacks in 6 games. Abraham is the man.

Does the Offensive Line Need a Shakeup?

No, it wasn’t the worst performance of the year (that would be Carolina with 7 sacks in one game), but this offensive line is causing heartburn for Falcons fans looking forward on the schedule when they play really good defensive lines. They weren’t outright terrible in pass blocking in the beginning of the season, but now they’re looking as bad as last year. And run blocking is another nightmare altogether. But really, how much should have been expected with the EXACT SAME starting offensive line as last year?

Baker is a little better, but not dominant. Blalock is the only rock on the team. Todd McClure is on the downside of 35. Garrett Reynolds is only slightly better than last year and that’s saying very little and many think he would be better at his natural position of tackle anyway. And then there’s Tyson Clabo. He has had an absolutely atrocious year. They’re just not getting it done and it shows. Sure, Michael Turner and the running backs aren’t making plays and the play-calling seems mediocre at best recently, but this is what most fans expected when literally no changes were made. Thomas Dimitroff deserves some criticism for the past of the this line, but he used his first two picks (2nd on Peter Konz, 3rd on Lamar Holmes) on offensive linemen. Why not try these guys out for a few series and see what happens? Why not mix it up some and move some of these guys around? Is one of the best overall linemen in the entire draft (Konz) really not good enough to start somewhere on this offensive line? Of all the issues that’s most maddening fans: Mike Smith and the coaching staff’s refusal to try anything different regarding the offensive line two years running.

Speed Needed at Running Back

This may just be an excuse in trying to make up reasons why the offense has been doing so poorly, but here goes: the Falcons need more speed in the backfield. It’s been well documented here in The Cage about Michael Turner and his slowing down or not fitting in this new offense among many other things. The Falcons coaching staff decided to go with Turner as their feature back this year and, even though a few times he’s done OK, mostly he’s looked completely out of sorts with this new offense. Gone are the days of one of the best lead blocking (and highest paid) fullbacks in the league clearing holes, the days of a power-run first offense, and offensive line opening “garage-sized holes” as Cage member SOMEBODY said. The best running backs in the league simply slow down as they approach 30 years old and especially with Turner having so many carries in such a short amount of time.

Falcons running back Michael Turner is brought down by Raiders safety Tyvon Branch, right, for short yardage during the second half Sunday.

Running Game is Anemic (AJC)

The issues go beyond Turner, however. Jacquizz Rodgers was thought to be somewhat of an answer and may even contend for close to 40-50% of Turner’s touches, but that surely has not been the case. Maybe it’s play-calling or just lack of playing time, but Rodgers has not turned into the player many fans expected. On the 3rd and 1 toss play to Rodgers, he had room to get the first down, but was easily caught and dropped for a loss. Even his specialty of catching the ball in space had issues when he bobbled a well-timed screen that could have gone for many yards. The odd man out has definitely been Jason Snelling. Many ream the call to give Snelling the ball on 3rd and short, but many times he tends to run just as hard as Turner and does a better job of hitting the hole. The cold truth is that the Falcon simply don’t have speed at running back and haven’t for quite some time. Antone Smith has shown some serious speed in pre-season only to never get touches in a game. What could it hurt? Look no further than Alfred Morris of the Redskins and Andre Brown of the Giants (filling in for Ahmad Bradshaw) tearing it up this year alone. Like the OL issue, that’s a major thorn for fans as well, a refusal to mix it up and give some guys a few chances. From where it stands now, running back surely could be a candidate for a 1st or 2nd round pick in 2013.

Defensive Tackle Could Use a Corey Peters Boost

Peria Jerry, Jonathan Babineaux, and Vance Walker have done a good job getting penetration in the backfield so far this season. Thought to be a possible weakness, they’ve done an admirable job overall. But they sure could use a boost, especially in the run game from a guy by the name of Corey Peters. Believed to be the best overall defensive tackle for the Falcons by many fans, Peters has been out the entire season going all the way back to training camp. He may not be ready for the Eagles game, but getting him back on a defense that could tighten up will be a nice shot in the arm.

More Issues at LB

Not having Stephen Nicholas at full strength really has shown just how fragile the Falcons linebacking corps is. Akeem Dent and Mike Peterson were on the field at the same time many times throughout the game, with Dent playing the entire game. Dent occasionally shows some promise as a very young player in the run game, but he’s just as lost as Curtis Lofton was in pass coverage. As the season wears on, the decision to not sign a linebacker for backup purposes may end up biting the Birds at some point.

Why is the Offense Digressing?

Falcons fans cheer as wide receiver Roddy White (right) celebrates his touchdown catch from Matt Ryan  with Harry Douglas for a 7-3 lead over the Raiders during the second quarter.

Happening Much Less than it Used to (AJC)

Is it the anemic run game? Is it the offensive line? Is Matt Ryan simply coming off his hot start? Are defenses figuring out what the Falcons want to do? Is it just execution, or is it bad play-calling? Who knows exactly why the Falcons have continued to devolve on offense the last three weeks, but this much is certain: it definitely has. The Falcons looked unstoppable against a pretty good San Diego defense, but has hit a wall of sorts since. They left many points on the board vs. Carolina and gave up 7 sacks. They played 3 quarters of weak offensive football in DC before finally getting it together. And they looked as bad as they ever have against the Oakland Raiders on Sunday. Whatever the reason, the coaching staff and offense better get some things figured out before a tough part of the schedule starts coming up.

Harry Douglas Needs More Snaps

This is nothing new and it has nothing to do with that spectacular off-the-helmet catch he made on the ground, but Harry Douglas should get not only more snaps on offense, but more touches as well. The idea is that it’s impossible to cover all of the Falcons aerial weapons, but despite only a few occurrences, Douglas just doesn’t get that many looks. Either that or Dirk Koetter doesn’t know how to use him correctly. Seemingly, it would be a coordinators dream to have such an explosive slot man (and to his credit, he’s giving him more looks than Mularkey did), but he never seems to get chances to do what he does best which is to catch and run in space. Perhaps this is more of a critique on formations (3 receiver, 1 TE, single back) sets than anything else, but if you’re going to be an explosive passing team, you have to maximize all your weapons and the slot doesn’t seem to be getting enough snaps or targets. No disrespect intended, but do we really want to see Mike Johnson / Joe Hawley as a 3rd TE, Lousaka Polite, or Tommy Gallarda get on the field instead of HD?

The Tight End Cupboard is Bare After Gonzalez

This is really more about going forward than this year, but Sunday’s game brought to light just how bare the tight end cupboard will be when Gonzalez does finally hang up his cleats. Michael Palmer is hurt and there’s a belief that he can at least bridge a gap until a new tight end is developed, but after that, there’s not much. Tommy Gallarda is about exactly what he was coming out of college: an undrafted free agent. And this is really more on Dimitroff than anyone. He’s not invested any consequential draft picks on tight ends since 2008. In fact, the only tight end he’s ever drafted was Keith Zinger in the 7th round. Palmer may can get it done, but the position as a whole looks to be getting a huge hit when Gonzalez leaves.

Falcons Must Develop Another Defensive End

Matt Bryant kicks the game-winning field goal with the Raiders bench looking on with only a second or two to go in Sunday's game.

Bryant Makes Another Late Save (AJC)

As mentioned above, thank goodness for John Abraham, because without him, the Falcons wouldn’t have much of any pass rush from the DE spot. As with tight end, the Falcons have failed to develop any significant production or player from the defensive end spot not named John Abraham. This is year 5 of the Mike Smith / Thomas Dimitroff regime and despite all the supposed talent at DE, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of promise. Ray Edwards appears to be looking more and more like a weak free agent move (as many fans, including this author admit through gritted teeth). Kroy Biermann should move permanently to linebacker, his natural position, most fans believe and is too light to make an impact at DE. Then there’s Lawrence Sidbury who some thought may see an increased role under Mike Nolan, only to continue his disappearing act in 2012. Jonathan Massaquoi and Cliff Matthews may hold some talent, but they’re always ending up on the inactive list every Sunday. The Falcons signed Abraham to a 3 year contract, so theoretically they have a few more years, but they’ve already had 5.

Fans Seem to Be Pretty Evenly Split

Here in The Cage, it appears to be pretty evenly split among fans and their beliefs / opinions. Some feel that the NFL is the most parity-driven sport in the entire world and that “Any Given Sunday” is a true reality in that each win is special in the National Football League. Hard to argue when you see teams like the Patriots, Packers, 49ers, and Steelers losing games many think they shouldn’t. The Falcons may not be flawless, but they’re finding ways to win and are, so far, the only undefeated team in the NFL. It’s hard to argue against that belief.

On the other hand, fans rightly point to similarities to 2010 when the Falcons were “finding ways to win” as they are now, while not playing great football, went 13-3, and got downright embarrassed in the Debacle in the Dome. In other words, not only losing in back-to-back playoff appearances, but getting blown out and humiliated has corroded the idea of “getting the benefit of the doubt.” There’s nothing the Falcons can do about the postseason right now but win and get there, but those 2010 Falcons seemed to be getting worse as the postseason approached, not better. It’s also hard to argue that point as well.

The Bird Cage Faithful’s Turn

1) Simple Kickoff – where’s your confidence level after week 6?

2) Are the come-from-behind wins still a strength or are they now a weakness?

3) What was up with Matt Ryan’s bad day: one awful game or disturbing trend?

4) Is John Abraham nearing potential Ring of Honor status soon? Can he keep up this pace all season?

5) Is the Falcons offensive line finally due for a shakeup? What would your starting 5 be at Philly?

6) What should the Birds do @ RB? Is more speed desperately needed?

7) What’s your thoughts on the DT play?

8.) Are the LB issues keeping you up at night? Thoughts on Dent?

9) It’s an impossible question, but why is the offense digressing so bad?

10) Should Harry Douglas or others get more touches?

11) What should the Falcons do about TE after Gonzalez retires?

12) What is the deal with the Falcons failure to develop ANY OTHER defensive end?

13) What side do you fall on: happy to 6-0 and plenty of time to correct problems or seriously worried about what the future holds?

468 comments Add your comment

D3

October 15th, 2012
11:18 pm

Just a funny little note………..here’s the adjectives and verbs used to describe the first 3 games and their titles for posts here in the Cage……..

Week 1 – Falcons Rip Chiefs

Week 2 – Falcons Beat Broncos on Big Stage

Week 3 – Falcons Crush Chargers

………and since………..

Week 4 – Falcons Escape vs. Panthers

Week 5 – Falcons Edge Redskins

Week 6 – Falcons Squeak by Raiders

Just thought that was pretty telling.

Have a good night ‘all. See you in the morn’!

Matty Bicep

October 15th, 2012
11:25 pm

And for all the people who were moaning about the Falcons “almost” blowing the game against Denver, I hope you are watching what “Bad” is.

Matty Bicep

October 15th, 2012
11:27 pm

I think if the Falcons played in the AFC, not only would we have notched a few playoff games, we would have had a few SB appearances.

Slant Pattern

October 15th, 2012
11:44 pm

P. Rivers is no M. Ryan, thats for sure.

Nice post D3. I suspect you will get some homer rage tho!! It’s late, will try to do questions tommorrow.

Matty Bicep

October 15th, 2012
11:49 pm

1. On scale of 1-10, I am a 9 that we make the playoffs. a 1 that we go 16-0. What happens after that is too far in the future to tell.

2. They are a sign that….well, won’t have the lead every second of the season. But it is also a sign that we have great clock management, a cool headed QB, a rock solid kicker, and a great 2 minute scheme. Hardly a weakness.

3. Where Ryan goes, the Falcons go. I do think teams are adjusting and taking things away… QB in the NFL is hard, ask Philip Rivers, but Ryan is a hell of a 2 minute guy, and he will rebound.

4. Defensive MVP…A credit to Smitty to know how to use an guy with a rep of being injury prone and malaigned, and have so much respect that for Smitty that he left money on the table to sign. A guy like that wants to be here, need I say more?

5. I expect a lot of time to be spend on the oline over the next 2 weeks.

6. RB is a concern. MT is kinda it. Need to draft here.

7. Will be glad to see Peters get back in the rotation.

8. Concerned about LB, hope that Dent starts to show some serious improvement. Where is Bear Woods?

9. Why did GB look human, only to explode on Texas? Offenses are funny that way, I keep waiting for that been explosion, hopefully it comes in the playoffs.

10. I have not seen anything our of HD when to do go to him to think he is the answer. Ryan can go to him if he likes, they just don’t have that mojo, I did not blame MM, and I don’t blame Koetter.

11. Frightening thought.

12. Good question, they just don’t grow on trees. We took a few late rounders, but they are hard to find.

13. I predict we will win some and lose some (god forbid). In the end, I expect to be in the playoffs, but it is impossible to predict how we are playing then, who we play, who is injured, etc.

Surg the Urge

October 15th, 2012
11:49 pm

The Falcons are 6-0, but who cares?

~ ESPN

Matty Bicep

October 15th, 2012
11:50 pm

And Norv Turner ain’t no Smitty.

Creaky

October 15th, 2012
11:59 pm

Smoke and mirrors

watchforbird.. ish

October 15th, 2012
11:59 pm

These fans are not loyal.. these fans don’t deserve explanations, these fans just need to spectate and enjoy the Sunday hangouts in town.. the falcons are fine, do you go all out on a average looking girl?? I wonder how deep they went into the playbook.. last three games were somewhat experimental .. like linemen catching passes wtf.. but really, when you know how strong you are why flex.. NFL is a business so blowing teams out every weak would be boring and setup for failure come playoff time when there’s no secret sauce left .. so Smith is working on things we didn’t do well in the first 3 weeks.. how many teams can score in 40 seconds? Falcons are constant work towards perfection and those in the locker room have bought in .. Be a loyal fan or cheer for another team.. Go Falcons!

Creaky

October 16th, 2012
12:02 am

However i will take it over losing any time.

Surg the Urge

October 16th, 2012
12:06 am

Falcons fought hard to beat two teams coming off their bye week. We played terrible both those games and barely beat the Redskins. No team is perfect, and we can’t demolish every opponent we face, but Matt Ryan played terrible that last game against a team that struggled with turnovers before us. We didn’t get the run game going, Quizz is looking like a bust, the O-Line is regressing, the defense played terrible. Can’t wait to get Corey Peters back, and I hope a week’s worth of rest does the team well. Hopefully we come back rejuvenated and not fall off like the teams we played coming off the bye.

P Little

October 16th, 2012
12:14 am

If the Falcons want to contend with teams like the Giants, Packers, and the 49ers. They better do something with the offensive line. They need to atleast try the rookies any thing would be better than what they’ve done the last two games.

Wings

October 16th, 2012
12:36 am

Wabe in previous blog – “Also, I’m curious, when is this ‘honeymoon’ period for this regime gonna end? A lot of folks get tied up into this notion that because they’re the ‘best regime this franchise has ever had’ and ‘they came in here when we were at rock bottom and pulled us out of it’, criticism against them is blasphemy, or that firing them would be inconceivable. ”

My opinion it will end when the regime doesn’t use the talents of the current gifted players to win a Super Bowl. There is a “window” of opportunity to harness the talents of a specific number of the players who are above the rest.

Loyalfalconfrmthemississippi

October 16th, 2012
12:49 am

1. Im quite confident in this team 1-10 id say 10 i kno they might not go undefeated but they will play hard all four quarters.
2. Definately still a strength because they havent failed with it
3. Just a bad day, id blame it mostly on the o line, he was just pressured all game
4. Abe is a beast and will continue that trend all season with the rest he gets each game.
5. Yes, my five would be baker, blalock, hawley, konz, and try reynolds at right tackle if clabo continues his downward spiral
6. Give antone smith some playing time and give rodgers more snaps and let snelling run on 3rd and shorts, but ultimately give antone smith a chance turner is a no show nearly every game, we need someone to make some plays at RB
7. The DTs are playing pretty good although cory peters will be a welcome improvement on the line
8. Stephen nicholas needs to stay at 100 percent im glad they let him get the extra rest during the raiders game, i think picking up a big MLB during free agency may be our best course of action, i like akeem but hes just not showing the potetial we all hoped he had.
9. They are just getting tired, our running game is absent nearly every game so matt ryan gets too much pressure because defenses can pin their ears back and bull rush us i credit matt for being able to do what he has in spite of the circumstances
10. HD definatley needs more targets to draw some more pressure off our other recievers, a tripple WR threat is much more threatening than just a duo, just sayin
11. THEY NEED TO DRAFT A BIG TIME TIGHT END. They had chances to pick up some nice prospects last year to develope under gonzo and passed that up, lets hope gonzo sticks around for another year and we draft somebody maybe tyler eiffert, we need somebody soon!!!!!!
12. Simple answer: good seasons. Atlanta hasnt had a chance to make a top pick in any draft since 2008 aside from that id just put it on poor scouting and not giving your other guys chances to make plays ive seen sidburry make plays with limited chances yet hes barely seen the field this year, masoqui why not give this guy some chances, see if he can make some plays, he made alot of big plays and sacks in college lets see if he can bring that to the table in ray edwards place, heck that might even give ray edwards some motivation to play better
13. Very happy to be 6-0 and anxious to see what this team does to change for the better in our upcoming games!!!

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PapaK

October 16th, 2012
6:47 am

I share the same concerns as the rest of you. We all want the Falcons to win 38 – 0. Run for 200 yds., Ryan throwing 3TD passes and sac the opposing quarterbacks 5x’s a game. Unless they do that, we are concerned they aren’t good enough. But 6-0 is pretty damn good. I predict they’ll have a couple of games described above. Let’s hope it’s in the playoffs.

JJ

October 16th, 2012
7:17 am

FFL
Fock you Rivers, you sukk!!!

SG

October 16th, 2012
7:37 am

Huge, huge props to Smitty’s Jekyll and Hyde Falcons on the 6-0 start and tying Coach Reeves win total.

Going forward, I’d like to see Antone Smith finally get a shot at RB, MR2 helming more of the no-huddle as I’m not feeling good about the OC’s ability to adjust to opposing D’s adjustments in real-time, and can we give some of the rookies some snaps on the softer side of our O line?

Singletary

October 16th, 2012
7:55 am

I’m going to be killed by UGA alums, but why are we pampering Dent? Two penalties, was it? We have to fix the Oline or Turner will again have no shot for a scamper into the endzone. I don’t rag on the D too much for the Raiders game because they were on the field so long that they were existing only on fumes. Maybe Clabo is hurt or maybe he’s feeling protected as the player representative, but until he becomes a wall, that is not his “highest, noblest purpose.” We are ripe to lose to PHI, dang it, if we don’t get some fixes. (Losing to another team would not be as painful.) That being said, it is nice to be 6-0.

Mary Gochenauer

October 16th, 2012
8:27 am

It seems like most people don’t even notice the falcons let alone know that they are 6-0. The only thing that matters to me (in my mind, my gut and my heart) is that the Falcons are winning. Go ahead say your negative comments about them, I would rather have them under the radar anyways. A win is a win no matter how they got it. At least they didn’t cheat like the patriots did and do to win games. Big Falcon fan living in Denver Colorado Mary

snacktastic

October 16th, 2012
8:45 am

“Split down the middle” is right. I’m happy about 6-0, but not as happy as I’d be if it didn’t look like the team was about to fall apart.

Philly may have their issues, but they’re not to be underestimated. I’ll look at that game to see if any more worry is justified. Let’s hope the Birds get the most out of the bye week.

Falcondawg

October 16th, 2012
8:49 am

Our offense would be not just fine, but great, if the offensive line could run block! D-lines are in our backfield when the rb gets the ball. This is not to take the onus off Turner (he looks slow hitting what hole he may get from time to time) or Rogers (he can’t seem to run inside at all). But defenses are playing against the pass because they seem to know we can’t run.

Zoomie

October 16th, 2012
9:03 am

MR2’s play has digressed over the last three games. The OL is terrible in the run game. Clabo has become a turnstile in pass protection. Turner isn’t effective until he gets to the second level and I don’t see what Quizz brings to the table. The D is soft against the run and gets burned by their aggressive play at times.

Having said all that, the Falcons are 6-0. Withoiut question the coaching staff sees the same weaknesses we do and I’m sure it will all be addressed (with the exception of the OL; if history is a guide, the Falcons will stubbornly sink or swim with the current OL set-up).

Proud of the 6-0 start, but have the “hinky” feeling I had back in 2010 when we eaked out numerous nail-biters . . .

Wabe

October 16th, 2012
9:15 am

Great write up D3.

It’s good to be 6-0. Yeah, we may not be playing the best football in the league, but there isn’t another team in the league that sits prettier than the Falcons do at this point. At 6-0, the Falcons seem to be running away with this division and are positioned well to contend for homefield/1st round bye.

Regarding the play, even if you’re the most optimistic of fans, there’s a noticeable difference between the way we opened the season and the way we’ve played the last 3 weeks. We blow out the Chiefs, Chargers, and Broncos (despite that 4th quarter scare), and then we look somewhat mediocre against the Panthers, Skins, and Raiders. The Panthers and Skins, fine. But then, for a 3rd straight week, against a depleted Raiders defense that ranked in the bottom half of the league in pass defense, that hadn’t had an INT all season, puts our offense in shackles?

Trust me, even Smitty and Koetter will be lookin’ at that tape. No way to sugarcoat that performance. Yeah, they’re happy, as all of us are, to get the win. But, if you ask Smitty himself if he’s pleased with the way the Falcons are playing, do you honestly think he’ll say, “hey, we’re 6-0 so we’re obviously playin’ great football…”

No way Smitty believes that in his heart of hearts. He knows that the Falcons haven’t been playin’ good football, and I’m sure he’ll be looking at our past 2-3 games to see what it is that needs to get worked on. Just ask yourselves, do you think Smitty’s happy/satisfied with the way we’ve been playing?

And if you don’t think he is, and you think he’ll be ripping into these guys, why are fans out of bounds for doing the same?

Paddy O

October 16th, 2012
9:42 am

Our D won the game, despite the last quarter yard gobbling by Oakland – Palmer is still an above average QB. Last post somebody indicated that our new coordinators were “proven”. I agree on Nolan; Welcome Back proved exactly what last year? He has shown a tendancy to call plays in the stupid cute universe. So, unless we have vastly overrated our talent, I blame Welcome Back for misdirected play calling and game planning. However, whose idea do you think it was to make Mike Turner a receiver? He is not good at it. Plus, HD and Quizz have dropped passes – those errors must be cleaned up. Our O line was good against Denver – who as you saw last night can excel. So the question is, why is our O line failing now? The O line was pure awful against Carolina – I hoped it was a peculiar aberration – but of course, every D coordinator we play against is looking at what worked for Carolina. Yes, the Skins have a great coaching pedigree, and RG3 – but Oakland? Only excuse – and it is an excuse – is that they were coming off their bye. We need to dominate the lesser teams. I smell 2010 all over again.

Big Lou

October 16th, 2012
9:46 am

Philly just fired their defensive coordinator. The game the Falcons are gonna have with them just got more difficult. Dude was a BVG clone.

Paddy O

October 16th, 2012
9:46 am

Good moniker for the 2012 Falcons: Smitty’s Jekyll and Hyde Team. But, I do suspect they were running some offensive experiments against lesser teams – stupid cute. Almost cost them 2 games. Luckily for Smitty & Co, Ryan continues to pull his butt out of the fryer.

Big Lou

October 16th, 2012
9:51 am

SG

Atione Smith has been injured the past couple games.

Robert James

October 16th, 2012
10:09 am

It’s too easy after a game like the Raiders to comment about the Falcons’ performance. A kid could have offered up a close resembling list of “what we need”… The Falcons had a bad day and Smitty, DT and DK already know what the weaknesses were and are prior to going into the game. We have needs and this year some were addressed and next year others will be. Coining a popular phrase these days, “Are we better off than a year ago?”…. A couple of standout remarks imho were just ill informed. Regarding the TE position we have the best all time receiving TE ever and he may very well stay around another year. Only he knows. He is mentoring Palmer and Gallarda, both of whom are better blockers than TG. Both of them and particularly Gallarda are good receiving TEs. They just have not been given the opportunity in games – because we have TG. So yes to your question , “Would we really like to see Hawley and or Gallarda on the field more as a TE – not Hawley but Gallarda for certain. The PI called on him in the end zone in the Carolina game was just BS and he was open. He doesn’t dop footballs and neither does Palmer. We have a number of talented WRs and Ryan is spreading the ball around. Not a bad problem to have. If TG retires TD will draft a top ranked receiving TE and we’ll continue on. So D3 come back after the season is over and revisit this article…..

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

October 16th, 2012
10:13 am

Good Stuff as usual D3. Thanks for the SHOUT-OUT!

Big Lou

October 16th, 2012
10:19 am

As the glass half-full guy, I will answer your questions and be the homer of the franchise’s first 6-0 start.

1) Simple Kickoff – where’s your confidence level after week 6?

Highest it has been since the Falcons went on that Super Bowl run years ago.

2) Are the come-from-behind wins still a strength or are they now a weakness?

Against Carolina, it was a strength. Redskins wasn’t really a comeback… Raiders was a bunch of self-inflicted wounds. Still, it takes a lot of heart and resiliency to drive down the field to kick the field goal to prevent overtime.

3) What was up with Matt Ryan’s bad day: one awful game or disturbing trend?

There has been a trend on him throwing an INT(bone headed ones, too) the past four games, so he needs to be more aware when he is surveying the field. If we are going to get on the Oline after a couple bad games, then we need to do the same with the Ice man. Make him run more no huddles, create more play action, or do whatever you need to do to make Ryan more comfortable in the pocket. But, at the end of the day, we can only blame the Oline for so long. Out of Matt’s 6 INT this year, 4 have been on him, and two on the offensive line. I doubt he will have another bad game–expect a bounce back.

4) Is John Abraham nearing potential Ring of Honor status soon? Can he keep up this pace all season?

Mike Nolan is doing good on limiting his snaps and putting him a position to make plays. So, I think he will keep up the pace.

5) Is the Falcons offensive line finally due for a shakeup? What would your starting 5 be at Philly?

I would wait till after the Philly game–that’s just me. Oline cohesiveness is very important. Replacing people would make that game even worse, imo. A bye week does not equate full speed games. I would wait till we play a team with a weaker dline.

6) What should the Birds do @ RB? Is more speed desperately needed?

Until next year, they need to scheme better around the RBs they have. It just looks like they are trying to make Turner/Quizz adapt to their scheme, which doesn’t fit their strengths. Screen passes, and dink/dunk passing would help open things up for Tuner, though.

Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)

October 16th, 2012
10:33 am

1) Simple Kickoff – where’s your confidence level after week 6?

Still high.

I suspected after the preseason that OL and the running game were weaknesses, and yet again those holes that appeared to be problems in preseason carry into the regular season.

We had injuries to overcome (as all teams do, see Green Bay during their superbowl run) but WE DID.

Losing Grimes was a blow, contract nonwithstanding. He was a key in the secondary.

Cutting Ovie (coming off an injury) to free money for Samuels seemed a no brainer at the time, but when his replacement went down with a season (Career) ending injury, it hurt.

Throw in Peters, and our FA mike LB that didn’t make it into the regular season, there were hurdles.

Which the team and coaching staff overcame just enough to win EVERY game.

So, yeah, I am feeling pretty good at this stage.

Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)

October 16th, 2012
10:35 am

2) Are the come-from-behind wins still a strength or are they now a weakness?

Strength. We won. GETTING behind is a weakness.

3) What was up with Matt Ryan’s bad day: one awful game or disturbing trend?

Disturbing trend, which I blame on Pass Blocking. He DOES need to start releasing quicker again. Wonder if he is hurt from all those blows he has been taking? Wouldn’t be surprised, and would explain a lot.

4) Is John Abraham nearing potential Ring of Honor status soon? Can he keep up this pace all season?

Yes, Yes, depending on the competition (he is stronger against average teams)

Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)

October 16th, 2012
10:36 am

5) Is the Falcons offensive line finally due for a shakeup? What would your starting 5 be at Philly?

Starters, the same – BUT I would bring Holmes onto the active list and see what he can do in the line of fire if his foot is really good enough to contribute.

6) What should the Birds do @ RB? Is more speed desperately needed?

Yes. High pick or a good low mileage FA signing like Turner was,

7) What’s your thoughts on the DT play?

Ok, Walker had a good game.

Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)

October 16th, 2012
10:37 am

8.) Are the LB issues keeping you up at night? Thoughts on Dent?

Not so much (on staying up at night). Many packages will employ 2 LB’s anyway. Injuries are hurting us because injuries made us so thin there.

8) It’s an impossible question, but why is the offense digressing so bad?

OL Digressing, aging, No FB, Matty may be hurt after taking so much punishment.

9) Should Harry Douglas or others get more touches?

Yes. He is supposed to be a speed guy, why don’t I see him in positions that we can use it?

10) What should the Falcons do about TE after Gonzalez retires?

Draft. High. Next year there will be a few good TE’s coming out of college, maybe the best in a while.

Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)

October 16th, 2012
10:38 am

11) What is the deal with the Falcons failure to develop ANY OTHER defensive end?

A question for the ages. I thought defensive schemes before, but maybe there is more to it?

12) What side do you fall on: happy to 6-0 and plenty of time to correct problems or seriously worried about what the future holds?

Happy.

The Falcons go into the bye week wondering if they can win more convincingly, and how long they can stay undefeated.

The Bulldogs went into their bye week wondering why the dreams turned into a nightmare (with Steve Spurrier playing the feature role of Freddy Kruger), and what was the license of the bus that just ran them over.

The Yellow Jackets went into their bye week wondering if they can go to any bowl at all, and firing their DC in the middle of the season. Middle Tennessee??

Perspective makes me a very happy Falcons fan.

Big Lou

October 16th, 2012
10:41 am

7) What’s your thoughts on the DT play?

Good against the pass, and stout IF they run through the middle. They are absolutely God awful if they run to the edges. Luckily, we have decent CBs/LBs to plug up the holes. THEY NEED TO WRAP UP, THOUGH!

8.) Are the LB issues keeping you up at night? Thoughts on Dent?

No. I will give Dent at least 10 games before feeling a bit worried.

9) It’s an impossible question, but why is the offense digressing so bad?

I am not going to act like I am a coach in the NFL, or somebody in the locker room. Yet, I do think the Falcons are just trying to play perfect. Matt is trying to make plays and making ill-advised throws, receivers are dropping easy passes due to over-thinking. I just think they need to calm down and just go have fun. Do not worry about being perfect. As for the digressing comment, which is a bad one, it was one bad offensive game. I do not count the Redskins, because it was poor execution. They threw up points against Carolina. Offense will adjust and bounce back.

10) Should Harry Douglas or others get more touches?

Easier said than done. I feel they have been spreading the love extremely well so far.

11) What should the Falcons do about TE after Gonzalez retires?

Draft, coach one up… target HD more. Who knows? Let’s focus on this year and enjoy it.

12) What is the deal with the Falcons failure to develop ANY OTHER defensive end?

Ray Edwards hasn’t pulled his weight, but I expect them to mold Johnathan Mas. just fine. You only have so many draft picks and money to do things…

13) What side do you fall on: happy to 6-0 and plenty of time to correct problems or seriously worried about what the future holds?

I am the happy to be 6-0 because my job as a fan is to support my team and enjoy the good times. People are entitled to their opinions, and I am okay with that. But, at the end of the day, every fan wants the same thing. It’s easy for me to feel comfortable because we have new coaches. I am willing to give them a chance. Comparing 2010 to this year just seems… off to me. You go from heavy Turner play(MM offense), and soft zone(BVG defense), to a more Matt Ryan heavy offense(DK), and attacking defense(Mike Nolan). The offense is molding Matt Ryan to carry his team when it matters, and the defense is getting molded into a team that makes the opposing QB lose sleep at night. Apples and Oranges, I refuse to live in the past. I do not care how we are beating teams… the Falcons have a different attitude, different leadership, better secondary play and Julio Jones.

Coop

October 16th, 2012
11:02 am

Morning Cage – First, my thoughts and prayers go out to Birdman!

Second, before I even read the post, the news of the DC firing in Philly is VERY concerning. This sort of thing can galvanize or fracture a team. Based on the complaints from the players, I think this will have a galvanizing effect. Further, I don’t know what G2 we have on Boles (new DC), but game planning probably got a lot harder.

That said, the game plan for our D should be to get after Vick and hit him and hit him and hit him. They have a double backup LT and a shaky OC. Based on what I’ve seen the first few games, I’d start Vance Walker at DT. He has gotten a ton of push up the middle. I know forcing Vick to the outside and running is scary, but I think him running up the middle is worse. When he goes to the outside he protects the ball even worse than between the tackles. I think that gives us more opportunity for Spoon, Decoud, Robinson, Moore, and Samuel to lay the wood to him and get some fumbles.

On O I’d expect Philly to come after Ryan hard with this DC change.

Wabe

October 16th, 2012
11:10 am

Hahaha Asante Samuel’s tweeting about the Iggles firing Juan Castillo.

“Sometimes you gotta blame yourself, you can’t point the finger at everybody else…ain’t no decline here…rise up”

Gotta love the dude’s swag.

D3

October 16th, 2012
11:13 am

Robert James — Thanks for joining the Cage. We’ll have to just agree to disagree on Gallarda. One main reason I said that is that he dropped a very easy ball in the game and offers nothing in terms of receiving. He is a blocking TE by trade, at least he is for us Falcons @ 6′5, 262. He has struggled mightily to even make the squad, was undrafted. Made the practice squad and was cut by the Jaguars. Made it on as our #3 TE. I like Palmer a lot, but my point was that we will have nowhere near the production that or targets or command coverage the way that Gonzalez has for many years. You can only get by on Undrafted Free Agents for so long. JMHO

Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)

October 16th, 2012
11:17 am

Big Lou – Excellent points about the differences between Falcons 2010 and 2012.

I don’t see a huge difference with the DC being fired in Philly, the replacement is coming from the staff, and they can’t shift schemes in a bye week. Maybe some motivational impetus, but not sure which way.

D wasn’t their problem, anyway.-

They lost the Detroit game at the last minute on a FG, gave up 26
Steelers beat them but only scored 16
Giants only managed 17 (and look what they did to the 49ers)
Cardinals scored 27, but their O only managed 6 points, so hang that one on the O.
Flacco and the Ravens scored 23, and the Browns scored 16. Both Philly Wins.

Their problem is turnovers by the O, Vick in particular, and changing D coordinators won’t fix that.

I surfed for some stats, and found this:

Philly is 12th in points allowed
while they’re 31st in points scored.

They’ve turned it over 17 times,

( http://www.businessinsider.com/philadelphia-eagles-fire-juan-castillo-2012-10#ixzz29TX8Iynh)

Arno

October 16th, 2012
11:17 am

The criticisms of the Falcons not winning in the playoff game are inflated. Come on– getting to the playoffs three out of four years gives a team a slightly better chance of winning in the playoffs than not getting to the playoffs at all.

The criticisms of the Falcons being a very flawed 6-0 team are inflated. The Falcons know their flaws. Matt Ryan leading the team to wins after sputtering for three games is outstanding. Just ask Romo or Rivers.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

October 16th, 2012
11:24 am

It’s very fascinating to hear some of the concerns (debates) about our 6-0 Falcons, they are errily simular to last seasons.

I will list some concerns I’ve heard here in the cage…and some simularities that I personally see in this team, compared to last years squad.

1). The offense is beginning to show they have trouble moving the ball with our offensive coord. calling plays. (We scored the first TD on Sunday in the hurry-up, with Matt calling the plays) GOT RHYTHM?!?!

2). Faltering running game.

3). Inadequate use of Harry Doughlas.

4). Offensive Line play…

5). Suspect play calling on offense…………………………..^^^^^^^^^^^^ see #1.

6). Anemic pass-rush.

7). Player development: Sidbury, Antone, Mattews, Maasaquio. if these guys can contribute…give’em
a SHOT!

8). Know identity on offense or defense.

9). Lack of urgency.

The above ^^^^^ are just a few, I could go further indept…but I digress.

If we could form a template of this years team, place it over top of last years, it would start to fit.

We’ve added new coordinators, why are we seeing these simularities rear their ugly head again? All I know is the only two constants are Smith and TD (players not withstanding).

The most glaring simularity from last year, the year before and the year before that, are Coach Smiths stale (redundant) word speak, game after game, year after year ” WE HAVE ALOT OF CORRECTIONS TO MAKE” Hey, don’t get me wrong, I am not calling for anyones Job…some things just gets old over a period of time. Just my opinions…

Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)

October 16th, 2012
11:26 am

Question -
Who scores first against the Eagles?
A) Samuels
B) Biermann
C) Jerry
D) HD
E) Turner

Wabe

October 16th, 2012
11:26 am

I will go ahead and say this to sing a more positive tune.

There are legitimate questions about teams like the Texans and Niners, whether they can handle adversity, or play from behind. Both of those teams seem built more like the Falcons were in 2010. Pound the ball, but not enough offensive firepower to play from behind if they get into the type of game that doesn’t suit their style. I think the Falcons actually now more than ever could actually play from behind if need be. We have the weapons, and we’ve become a more passing oriented offense.

Another note, the Falcons haven’t played their best football, we all know that. But, the last two Superbowl Champions, the Packers and Giants, both had rocky regular seasons until they finally clicked. I remember the Giants lost twice to the Redskins last season. So, yeah, I get that sometimes you’re not playing your best football and teams can certainly catch you any week. But, both of those teams evolved through the season, and found themselves at the right times.

Winning is always good. My only worry is that winning in the fashion we have may result in Smitty and company overlooking the things that need to be looked at, things that’d definitely be looked at if we lost any of those games. I’m not saying they will overlook them, I’m just unsure how much attention they’ll pay to the areas of concern (IE – the O-Line, Run Defense). I know that if those things actually *cost us a game*, Smitty would dedicate all of his time and effort to correct those areas. But, nobody knows exactly how much time he’s been spending working on things like the run defense, because it hasn’t really gotten better from week to week. It’s been consistently bad.

Hopefully we see improvement in these areas coming out of the bye.

SeminoleWarrior

October 16th, 2012
11:35 am

Cage Family

Been a while since my last appearance here and a hell of a lot has been going on; trying to balance a life with the realities of life. In the past few weeks, I have spent a lot of time rolling south to spend special time with my beloved Angel Josephine. During this time, the Cage always had a kind word, a thought, and a series of prayers that provided comfort. Well, friends, I need them more than ever.

At 9:10am, this morning, surrounding by family, the Angel I cherish, was received into the arms of her loving and everlasting God. The TeePee is devastated, the heart is crushed. Human emotion will do that to you. We never want to surrender that which is so damned special and treasured.

I know she is in a better place. I know that God is too great to make a mistake. I understand that He needed her more than I do at this moment. But it still hurts. I feel a sense of joy because she is no longer suffering in pain. But my pain, my selfish love-inspired pain, is crushing at this time.

The TeePee mourns her loss physically. But in the spirit of all that is the Warrior, I acknowledge that there was simply none finer than mine. All that I am I owe to her. All that I will ever be is a testament to the foundation she helped to mold.

Pray for us, Cage. Pray with us, family. But most of all, I beg of you, please, PLEASE, pray for me.
At this moment, the strong is seriously weakened. And I am asking a lot of questions not of heart but of the pain the heart feels.

God bless you all…keep me (us) close in this emotional time. May be a while before I return but I will keep you all close to me.

You (we) are the Cage, I love you all, and your Warrior, your brother, shall return when the time is right. Again, keep us in prayer and thoughts. God bless.

JJ

October 16th, 2012
11:40 am

SW, god bless you and your family!

waynester

October 16th, 2012
11:41 am

Seminole–
You’re being lifted up right this moment–and when the grieving finally relents, you’ll no longer hurt with questions but be filled with joy and gratitude for all the extra time you had together on this side and all the time yet to come on the other!

Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)

October 16th, 2012
11:46 am

SeminoleWarrior – You, your new angel, and all your family of course are in the prayers of all.

At 9:11 this morning, the Lord received a gift of a kindred spirit, who was lifted into his arms by not only her deeds (which from your comments I am sure were substantial) but also by the prayers of all those lives she touched on her journey thru our little realm here on Earth.

We, all of us, are ultimately judged not only by our actions, but by the actions of those whose lives we touched inspired, influenced. Your Josephine appears to have made such a mighty wake of bettered lives that it could surely be seen all the way to heaven!

God Bless you and your entire family, and please try to dwell more on her life and absence of pain instead of your grief, loss and pain. She would surely encourage you to do so.

Coop

October 16th, 2012
11:49 am

From Grantland:

“Just because a team has the best record — especially in a sample as tiny as six games — doesn’t mean that they’re the best team in football. It’s actually pretty easy to poke holes in the Falcons’ résumé. Their six games have included matchups against the Redskins, the Panthers, and the entire AFC West; when they’re not playing the Falcons, those six teams have gone a combined 11-15, and that’s not going to suddenly start looking much better as the season goes along. Atlanta has won those six games by a combined 58 points; only seven 6-0 teams in NFL history have had a worse point differential during their 6-0 start than Atlanta has. They’re already 4-0 in games decided by a touchdown or less, and that includes the stunning benevolence of Ron Rivera that led to their razor-thin win over the 1-4 Panthers in Atlanta. If Cam Newton doesn’t fumble and Carson Palmer doesn’t throw that pick-six during Oakland’s crucial drive in the fourth quarter on Sunday, the Falcons are 4-2 while having played at a virtually identical level of football. You don’t just get to write those plays off the board and pretend they didn’t happen, but it’s also naive to suggest that every win is of equal value in projecting the future once they hit the board.

The gentle section of the Atlanta schedule ends with their bye this upcoming week. After the week off, the Falcons get games against the three best teams in the NFC East, five of their six NFC South matchups, and tilts versus the Lions and Cardinals. If they don’t raise their game — especially both running the ball and stopping the run — they won’t be undefeated for much longer.”

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH

October 16th, 2012
11:51 am

SW, My condolences my Brother. The cage will open it’s heart of love…and out will fly an abundance of doves escorting your Angel to her final resting place.

May GOD Bless You, Your Family. Stay Strong Brother…

Coop

October 16th, 2012
11:55 am

Seminole Warrior – My family and I join the rest of the Cage in sending our thoughts and prayers to you and our family. No words will erase your pain brother, but the Almighty Jumpmaster heals all broken hearts in time. I know you are in the valley friend, but remember that He carries us through the dark valley so that we may fully appreciate the mountain tops! You are not alone!

Wabe

October 16th, 2012
11:57 am

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-am/0ap2000000081014/Smith-We-ve-got-a-long-way-to-go?module=HP11_content_stream

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Tell me really, is Smitty not saying the same exact thing that ‘negative Cage posters’ are saying in this interview…

Wabe

October 16th, 2012
12:00 pm

Smitty: “We know we can play much better football than we’ve played. We’ve done some good things, but we’ve got some areas that are of concern that we’ve gotta get better at.”

SeminoleWarrior

October 16th, 2012
12:01 pm

Thanks guys…..thanks more than you will ever know.

In memory of my Angel as well as all fallen angels everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh-ZcWQtWxs

Big Lou

October 16th, 2012
12:08 pm

Wabe

The difference is that most of the negative posters(not you) are not willing to give the new coaching staff a chance. When you got people comparing this team to 2010… it’s reaching. The homer fans(like myself) have agreed time and time again that we have flaws–oline, rush defense, effective use of Tuner. The difference is, we believe the coaching staff will fix it. We believe this team is a different animal all together–confidence, swagger. Again, I am good if they want to be critical, ’cause they want this team to succeed, but let’s not compare them to the past. That’s like putting a v8 into a previously v6 car, and expecting it to go the same speed.

Big Lou

October 16th, 2012
12:09 pm

SW

Stay strong, man. God does not give us tests that we cannot pass. Dig deep within, and be blessed.

waynester

October 16th, 2012
12:24 pm

None of our TEs are under contract after this season, and only a few Vets on the market–most of whom will be RFAs. Several good up-coming TEs came into the league under 3-year deals which will be up in 2013…including Daniel Graham from NO and Dennis Pitta from BAL. Tony G is the biggest name on the FA list for TEs, along with Dallas Clark at TB and Fred Davis, WASH…..

Box

October 16th, 2012
12:36 pm

SW,
Prayers for you and yours as always.

John Waynesworld

October 16th, 2012
12:38 pm

1) Where’s your confidence level after week 6? I’m hovering somewhere in between “high” and “shaky”. Let’s face it, the NFL is a crap shoot. We could come off the bye and beat the Eagles 21-14 or lose by the same score. We have work to do but I’m just happy we’re 6-0.

2) Are the come-from-behind wins still a strength or are they now a weakness? Come from behind wins are always a good tonic for the troops, but too many of these close games may cause doubt to creep into the players’ minds, and it may allow lesser teams to hang around longer than they should. We need a blowout or two in some of these upcoming games just to give our team a break.

3) What was up with Matt Ryan’s bad day: one awful game or disturbing trend? I believe Matt is having problems “feeling” protected. I think it can be fixed.

4) Is John Abraham nearing potential Ring of Honor status soon? Can he keep up this pace all season? John should be considered. The Predator has been keeping us in games, or winning games with a late sack, for years. He will eventually be awarded a spot.

5) Is the Falcons offensive line finally due for a shakeup? What would your starting 5 be at Philly? Not really. I would however start using a RB to chip, as they aren’t doing anything anyway. My 5…Baker, Blalock, Mud Duck, Whoever, Clab-olé.

6) What should the Birds do @ RB? Is more speed desperately needed? In the same vein as pissing on a spark plug, maybe we should try Antone Smith. Why not? He can’t be any more disappointing than our top 3.

7) What’s your thoughts on the DT play? Porous, non-penetrating, overmatched, ineffective…They are pretty stout near the goal line, though, mostly.

8.) Are the LB issues keeping you up at night? Thoughts on Dent? Dent is apparently another Lofton. I would put Dent in there anytime we need to butt heads to stop short yardage, but in play action scenarios, it is just a matter of time before some RB or TE will fake him out of his socks for a big touchdown. Check mark “ILB” for a top choice next to “TE” in our next draft.

9) It’s an impossible question, but why is the offense digressing so bad? The problem is the offensive line and no RBs who can make something out of nothing. It is left to Matt to conjure up a pass in 4 seconds or less or else he gets killed.

10) Should Harry Douglas or others get more touches? Harry is a concern. He does not get any separation. We need a bigger receiver in the slot, IMO.

11) What should the Falcons do about TE after Gonzalez retires? There is a guy who is playing TE at Notre Dame…The problem is that he may go too soon before we pick. We may have an option or two in free agency but it could get pricey.

12) What is the deal with the Falcons failure to develop ANY OTHER defensive end? It could be strength and conditioning, or maybe we don’t feed them enough. Either way, no one on the D Line is getting any push except for Abe.

13) What side do you fall on: happy to 6-0 and plenty of time to correct problems or seriously worried about what the future holds? As long as we are 2+ games ahead of New Whoreleans going into the final game with them, I am happy. Home field is a necessary goal as well as good health, so if we have those two at season’s end I will be ecstatic.

John Waynesworld

October 16th, 2012
12:43 pm

Condolences and prayers, SW.

Matty Bicep

October 16th, 2012
12:51 pm

Exactly BL, I believe in Smitty because I think his players do. I have not seen and ounce of quit, and the ability to cooly execute winning drives in the final seconds is what the NFL is all about. Remember when Bilichek went for it on 4th and 2 on their own 20 rather than give the ball the Manning? That is how I want teams looking at us. I want teams fearing us at money time, and they should.

Sure we have our issues just like every other team, but to sit back and endlessly harp on them, only to say “I told you so” every game when every play was not executed to perfection is not being a supportive fan, at least not in my book. Your no different than the ESPN schmucks.

IF we get the playoffs, I expect the Falcons to go out and believe they can win, and if they believe it, I will to. When I see a guy stud like Abs forgo more money to say in ATL because he believes, when I see another HOFer like Gonzo re-up another year because he believes, I believe. I just think sometimes the best things are worth not being afraid to expose yourself.

Sick & Tired Of Being Sick & Tired

October 16th, 2012
1:10 pm

@SeminoleWarrior – Condolences to you and your family!!!!!
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One of the greatest points that this article makes (and I totally agree with) is the fact that the coaches don’t seem to want to try someone else on the O-Line and at running back other than the obvious choices. Where is Antone Smith? (even before he got injured), Snelling?, Harry Douglas?, Kontz?, Holmes? The consistently great teams seem to utilize the talent on their entire roster better than the Falcons.

When you watch other good teams play, their QBs seem to have a lot better protection (as in time to find receivers) and they can open a hole for the RBs….To get the ball on the goal (after Ray Edwards picked up the fumble) and to not be able to get a rushing touchdown in 4 downs was pathetic. The O-Line IS NOT WORKING AS IS…..when you look at the defensive players that they go up against each week, they are just too small to be very effective.

I still don’t get this concept of drafting players who were great/outstanding in that position then the Falcons switch them to a totally different position and expect them to succeed at a high level. I know that you need to cross train for injuries, but Kontz is a great example of what I mean.

John Waynesworld

October 16th, 2012
1:11 pm

Dadgum blog monster…

JB Falcon

October 16th, 2012
1:16 pm

SW, we have been concerned about your absence in the cage and now am sorry to hear of your loss. Know in your heart and believe with all your faith that our Father will help you through these trying times. May He be with you and yours.

Slant Pattern

October 16th, 2012
1:20 pm

SW, my condolences for your loss. It took me awhile to get past the grey, hope you get there faster than I did.

D3

October 16th, 2012
1:34 pm

JWW — It’s out.

SW — Thoughts are with you my brother. We all know how special the Angel was to you.

Falcons Bashing — Love some Falcons Bashing from the national media elite, because the experts all know that we’re going to go 3-7 down the stretch, miss the playoffs, implode our stadium, sell our franchise, and never watch the NFL again. I mean, I get it, we’ve not looked spectacular, but we might as well be 0-6 or 1-5 the way these clowns are talking. All that being said, if we go up and lose to Philly, can you imagine how bad it’ll be then?

WR

October 16th, 2012
1:36 pm

Crazy, its been awhile too for myself to post in the cage SW, and while we have always seemed to have a good connection it was crazy to hear your beloved angel also goes by Josephine, which now that I’m older I always kid her by calling her Joe like the adults would do as I was growing up. You and yours are definitely in my prayers, JB put it as well as can be said, I’ll just add from one of my favorite songs, trust in the Lord he’s Worthy.

In regards to the Falcons, this might sound crazy if not strange but I’m kind of glad they’re showing glitches in their armour. The reason being, its still early in the season, they have survived subpar play to have a 6-0 record going into their bye. If the Falcons were 6-0 playing their best ball at this early stage of the season I would be concerned. We have to remember only 1 team has gone undefeated and won the SB and there’s a reason for that. I have mentioned it many times and the theory hasn’t changed, you just do not want your team peaking to early. I believe we all at this point can say the Falcons are know where near peaking even given their record. That’s actually been a problem in the past, these guys know their just getting by, and with this staff, getting by just won’t do, so they will continue to focus on improving which is the ultimate goal. Getting to the second season and winning is the name of the game, the Falcons have positioned themselves very well to get to the 2nd season, but they have also been there and done that with very poor results. I believe they know that, so again, sure lately they have just been getting by, I’m waiting for them really to start clicking, thats what I want and that’s when I can truly have an opinion on where this team could be headed, if it doesn’t happen, the opinion will be really easy.

WR

October 16th, 2012
1:58 pm

I wanted to get that post out the way, but just a special post to SW, if your Josephine was anything like mind, which given the presence you have always shinned upon the cage, you know your sorrow today is going to be filled with joy tomorrow because she made it through this journey. Many don’t realize and I know you do, this journey is a short one, it takes people like the Josephine’s of the world to teach us that. Once they complete this journey for some reason we choose to mourn for them when they no longer have to mourn for themselves, they have to mourn for us in hopes that we end up where they are once we complete this journey. Given how you have talked about her, she expected you to mourn, given how you posted it in this friendly little nest called the cage, while she is DEFINITELY alright now, she knows you will be too. Gems like that never fear death, they fear that they won’t be here to watch over you, and as long as they know you will be alright, they really can enjoy a road less traveled, but a road that ends in unimaginable JOY.

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Robert James

October 16th, 2012
2:06 pm

D3 on TE Gallarda and Palmer. LOL… I assume TG’s two drops were difficult… Go back and view the rewind on the LB hanging on Gallarda in the middle sit route…. As with every other receiver the Raiders were getting away with holding the entire game. Don’t know why the hate on Gallarda. The TD catch in the Carolina game was a difficult catch even though called back. His reception in the Redskin game was not as difficult. He had a number of receptions in preseason. Did you see the Miami game? And I only focus on WRs and TEs and went back and looked Gallarda and Cone up in college. Both were receiving guys. Gallarda scored every three passes. Cone another unheralded UDFA had a big college career…. Just one last thought for you. Any idea how many UDFAs make up an NFL team…. You might want to revise your assessment…. just saying…

D3

October 16th, 2012
2:15 pm

Robert James — OK man, since you want to be that way, than here goes: I don’t think Gallarda is very good. And I also have worries about Palmer as well. As well, if you actually read what I said, it was more a knock on Dimitroff not spending any draft picks on TE’s. But since you seem to be in love with the idea of UDFA’s, hell, let’s just give away all our draft picks and go straight for all UDFA’s. Since you got your cute little stat ready to go, tell me how many Falcons are currently still on the roster as UDFA’s since Smith / Dimitroff came aboard.

I should stop welcoming people to the Cage and just start being an @sshole I guess.

JB Falcon

October 16th, 2012
2:22 pm

WR 1:36, I agree about the blow-outs, or lack thereof. We’ve been waiting to see the entire team perform at our best and some are getting anxious. We are squeaking by with 6-0 and that’s just fine with me. At least we are showing that we have the ability to come from behind, even though we don’t play like that the whole game. That ability will come in handy when it’s a win or go home game.
It is not necessary to win every game by 20 – 30 points and even a loss every now and then won’t keep us out of the playoffs. Like you said, we don’t want to peak too early and the theory hasn’t changed.

SeminoleWarrior

October 16th, 2012
2:25 pm

Cage Family…..Again, The TeePee thanks you all for the thoughts and prayers. Can’t keep the eyes clear enough to travel southward today but will be rolling in the morning. Saw her for the last time this past weekend after the Seminoles beat BC. Had a precious moment that would be my last; in the witness of a friend, she tried to tell me something but her pain was too great and I could not understand. But I kissed her forehead, cried, and told her I love her. That love is the gift she gave me and will know be the eternal flame that sustains her within my heart.

WR, the kindred spirit that seems to bond us, continues to amaze me.

She was my beacon; the two core pillars of my life were my grandmothers. See, as you well may know, in the African American experience, when men did not own up, and mothers were too young to understand the responsibilities of it all, grandmothers saved the day for many a child like me.

Love all of them dearly; now three sit at the right hand of the Almighty. Mom, Grandma Ma Dear (Gertrude), and Grandma Angel (Josephine). And now, the son and the father must united to ease the pain of both hearts. And we will. The Unconquered knows of no other way.

We are down at the moment. But as MLK stated, the ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort; the ultimate measure of a man is where he stands in moments of controversy and distress.

I promise friends…..down for a moment but never will be out of the game called life. Again, thanks for the prayers and thoughts. We need them and sincerely appreciated them.

Wings

October 16th, 2012
2:39 pm

SW, I am certain Josephine is one of the Lord’s favorite angels.

Wings

October 16th, 2012
2:43 pm

Big Lou – “6) What should the Birds do @ RB? Is more speed desperately needed?

Until next year, they need to scheme better around the RBs they have. It just looks like they are trying to make Turner/Quizz adapt to their scheme, which doesn’t fit their strengths.”

I believe this one thing would help the offense more than anything. The plays that are used have been worn out for a few years.

Slant Pattern

October 16th, 2012
3:01 pm

“I should stop welcoming people to the Cage and just start being an @sshole I guess.” – D3

Hey, thats my job :) !!

Coop

October 16th, 2012
3:15 pm

1) Simple Kickoff – where’s your confidence level after week 6? Honestly, it’s shot. I was very confident after the Skins game and agreed with the comments about mettle and grit. But I said before Oakland there was no excuse to play poorly and/or lose. That destroyed my confidence that Smith recognized and addressed the issues from the previous two week outings. Am I confident we have the talent to beat anyone in the league?? 100% I am back to worrying EVERY game, which team will show up. Just like when the Eagles kept turning the ball over and barely winning folks said that will catch up to you. If we continue to play like this, it WILL catch up to us.

2) Are the come-from-behind wins still a strength or are they now a weakness? Definite weakness now. I think it allows the players to get complacent DURING the game. If we don’t execute on a drive, “eh… we’ll pull it out”. Give up a late TD, “eh… O will save us”. Bad state of mind to play in.

3) What was up with Matt Ryan’s bad day: one awful game or disturbing trend? Not sure. I hope it was a bad game. But we look more like the MM O the last 3 weeks than we did the first 3. Mybe it’s play calling, OL protection, whatever. I hope he just had a bad day. Of all the people associated with this organization, he is the one I trust the most.

4) Is John Abraham nearing potential Ring of Honor status soon? Can he keep up this pace all season? I need the see the numbers compared to Claude Humphreys, etc. That said, if Deion is ROH worthy (which I totally disagree with), then Abe is a lock. As for how much longer???? Tell him to drink from Tony G’s fountain of youth.

5) Is the Falcons offensive line finally due for a shakeup? What would your starting 5 be at Philly? Finally??? Seriously D3???? They’ve been ready for what… 4 years now. Why DID we draft Konz and Holmes?

6) What should the Birds do @ RB? Is more speed desperately needed? Yes. We need more speed. But until we fix the OL, will we ever really know what we need? I agree Turner is probably never getting back to his old ways consistently. For now, I’d give Smith a shot.

7) What’s your thoughts on the DT play? We have had some issues with the running game, but overall I think it’s faily solid. Most of the time, they anchor the center well. We don’t see QBs running up the middle when the DEs get around the end. That’s a good sign. More often we are flushing QBs to the sideline (see RGIII). I do think Walker should get even more playing time. He MIGHT be the best DT we have. I’m not convinced that Peters is any upgrade over Babs or Jerry.

8.) Are the LB issues keeping you up at night? Thoughts on Dent? as afreaid we’d miss Lofton… and we absolutely do. I hope Dent gets better. If not, we blew a pick on a really bad MLB. I agree with others, let Kroy play OLB. Heck, might as well play Sid there too.

9) It’s an impossible question, but why is the offense digressing so bad? I’m in SP’s camp. Bad route designs on passing plays and horrible O on running plays.

10) Should Harry Douglas or others get more touches? Yes. As well as Cone. Let’s flood the field with speed.

11) What should the Falcons do about TE after Gonzalez retires? Pray we actually draft a talented TE.

12) What is the deal with the Falcons failure to develop ANY OTHER defensive end? Not sure, but it’s unacceptable. Where are Sid, Matthews, Mass, etc.?

13) What side do you fall on: happy to 6-0 and plenty of time to correct problems or seriously worried about what the future holds? Happy, but seriously worried.

D3

October 16th, 2012
3:27 pm

Robert James — One last thing and this will be it. Since you like stats, here’s the top 20 TE’s from this year according to receiving yards, which is my original point (you can find blocking TE’s anywhere):

Player – Round Drafted
1) Tony Gonzalez – 1st
2) Owen Daniels – 4th
3) Rob Gronkowski – 2nd
4) Vernon Davis – 1st
5) Jimmy Graham – 3rd
6) Fred Davis – 2nd
7) Jermaine Gresham – 1st
8.) Greg Olsen – 1st
9) Jared Cook – 3rd
10) Brandon Myers – 6th
11) Jason Witten – 3rd
12) Brandon Pettigrew – 1st
13) Heath Miller – 1st
14) Martellus Bennett – 2nd
15) Scott Chandler – 4th
16) Jermichael Finley – 3rd
17) Dennis Pitta – 4th
18) Jacob Tamme – 4th
19) Coby Fleener – 2nd
20) Zach Miller – 2nd

But hey, maybe your boy Gallarda can be the next…………oh nevermind, ALL OF THEM WERE DRAFTED!!!!!!!!!

Robert James

October 16th, 2012
3:31 pm

D3
Don’t get defensive… and the stats are not “cute little stats”… There is very little difference between the 5th, 6th and 7th Round Draft picks and UDFAs. Here’s some of my favorite UDFAs and you would have to agree they along with countless others would take exception to your “How far can an UDFA take you” comment – Willie Brown, Victor Cruz, London Fletcher, Arian Foster, Jeff Garcia, Antonio Gates (I put him very close to TG), James Harrison, Warren Moon (HOF), John Randle, Tony Romo, Rod Smith, Adam Vinatieri (albeit a Kicker), Kurt Warner, Wes Welker… There are 1,900 Roster guys in the NFL and coaches evaluate their talent. we fans are no better than most pundits who have never played… Most of the players on rosters aside from 3 maybe 4 at the most are not stars. they are just called upon to do their job week after week with consistency. Gallarda and Palmer are in this group. Gallarda popped Turner’s TD last week and also caught a pass for 7 yards. Just doing his job. And if TG retires TD will get another receiving TE. That guy doesn’t necessarily have to be a Draft Pick.. It might be a UDFA in the League that might be as good as UDFA Antonio Gates….

Loyalfalconfrmthemississippi

October 16th, 2012
3:41 pm

@firedupfalcon id have to say none of the above man, tony G will score first no doubt possibly white or julio but gonzo has been the consistent go to guy so he will score first

SG

October 16th, 2012
4:00 pm

Seminole Warrior – just saw the news. Thought, prayers going out along w/ a wish for you to find the peace she wants for you now.

Edge Team

October 16th, 2012
4:01 pm

This is a team that has been built for the edge – not the core, so it is too dependent on the play from the edges (receivers and db’s) to win and lose games. This is what has hurt them the last 2 post seasons and is the crux of why they could be 3-3 just as easily as 6-0. Matt Ryan cannot make up for what is lacking at the core. They chose this path when they gave up draft choices and did not make the proper upgrades to the core with FA. Ray Edwards is actually a defensive edge player at DE, so again where is the common sense when it comes to building up the core. You wanna know why run defense is a sieve or why Ryan has too much pressure? You can win games with quickness on the edge, but in the long run and especially where the playoffs are concerned, it won’t take you far. We haven’t been able to win a single playoff game, which is because Aaron Rodgers has all week to throw the ball and Ryan is pressured so quickly that all he can do is throw out of bounds or look for his security blanket in Gonzalez for short yardage. Go Falcons!!!

Barry

October 16th, 2012
4:06 pm

Hey Y’all:

6-0 is great !! The “PROCESS” is continuing. Yes, we have some things to “FIX” on offense and defense. We have been playing together in “ONE HEARTBEAT!” as we are getting through these wins. However, the “FIXES” have to come quick for we are moving into some “FUN” and “COMPETITIVE” games in the second half of the seasons. Our offensive line have to tighten things up in the running game. They could not move the defensive line of the Raiders 2 inches at the goal line to get a touchdown. Remember, these are the same linemen from” last year” who had difficulty in moving inches against other teams in the leauge that we played last year. No offense, but they have to get better in moving defensive linemen in order to make holes. If they can’t do it, let the “ROOKIES” that we drafted get a chance to see what they can do. PUT THEM IN THE FIRE TO GET BATTLE TESTED!!! We are coming down to aggressive defensive teams like the Giants, who destroyed our line last year. We will see them again, and other defensive front four like them. What changes have we made on the offensive line to beat these guys as compared to last year. They are in our way towards the Super Bowl. We better be ready to defeat them. Will our new offensive schem work to do it? I do not think so. The line currently are not busting holes for Turner or the other running backs in this offensive line blocking scheme. I believe it’s the personnel. And if we are going to continue winning and getting to the Super Bowl, if they do not play better against better defensive fronts against the run and pass, then they need to be changed.

Our defensive interior needs to get more NASTY. They appear to not have the ability to shed blockers, on a consistant basis, and as a team, in getting to the running backs and the quarterback. WE NEED SOME BIG, IMMOVABLE, MOBILE OBJECTS IN THERE TACKLING RUNNERS IN THE BACKFIELD AND SACKING QUARTERBACKS. I am more than confident this will get fixed in some manner, with the addition of Corey Peter, but he will need help from the rest of the guys up there. ITS TIME TO GET DURTY AND NASTY FELLAS. THE SUPPR BOWL RUN STARTS WHEN YOU GET OUT OF THIS “BYE” WEEK. Get ready in “ONE HEARTBEAT!!!!”. I HEAR YOU GUYS COMING. “THUMP!!! YOU’RE GETTING LOUDER!!! THUMP… THUMP!!!! ……..!!!!. LET’S DO THIS!!!!

GO FALCONS!!!!!!

THE “PROCESS” CONTINUES TO THE SUPER BOWL.

“FALCONS, RISE UP!!!”. WE “RISE UP!!!” IN “ONE HEARTBEAT!!!”

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
This is a SECRET from a FALCON FAN. TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!

……………………………..”ONE HEARTBEAT, BABY!!!!………………………

falcon21

October 16th, 2012
4:28 pm

SW, thoughts and prayers are with you and yours my friend.

Paddy O

October 16th, 2012
4:32 pm

Big Lou – that is the crux of our problems. we replaced the V6 with the V8, and we are not getting any visible improvement in speed or performance – BUT, this is the odd part – games 1 to 3, we were showing exponential improvement. Until we started agitating to get Turner more involved. Either Welcome Back has been Smitty Balled, or our focus has been off – plus I do suspect Welcome Back was trying stupid cute wrinkles that failed miserably. However, what is the story with our O line? It is like we put in a new V8 engine, but left the 3 speed shift on the column transmission that has over 300,000 miles on and has been leaking and skipping gears since it had 80,000 miles on it (stupid cheap). So, how do we explain leaving the same crummy transmission we had last year (which for some odd reason ALSO played exceptionally well the first 3 games until they were asked to focus more on run blocking). See the parallels here?

Paddy O

October 16th, 2012
4:34 pm

SW: I am sorry for your loss.

JB Falcon

October 16th, 2012
4:47 pm

Paddy O, uh, we spent all our money on the V8 and kinda thought we could make do the old tranny? :) Not a good idea but it is what it is.
Someone said, maybe we’re just trying to hard, so maybe that could be the answer. Go easy on the old tranny until we can replace it. We still have the HP.

Big Lou

October 16th, 2012
4:52 pm

Paddy O

Turner’s involvement has been consistent since day one of the new season. If anything, Turner has been getting less involved each game. The pass and run ratio has also been consistent. They are passing the ball much more. That’s where all those comments from ESPN are coming from in getting our running game going.

As for your metaphor, I completely agree. I have been preaching player execution. You’re preaching to the choir on those assessments, but I feel confidence/attitude/better defense/explosive(but inconsistent) offense will be adjusted by our newer coaching staff. Who, now have the tools to fix those leaks and get the best proformance out of the engine we have. Examples: DeCoud, Owens, Jerry, ect.

Points I am making is that our new coaching staff will make adjustments and put our team in a better position to win than BVG/MM did. With or without the old pieces.

Terrell

October 16th, 2012
5:11 pm

I agree with most of you here that want to give our young DEs a shot. The question is though who do you make inactive? Massaoqui and Matthews have been inactive, what two guys do you make inactive to let them play? I’m still trying to figure out why Clabo and Reynolds don’t swap positions. When Clabo came here as a free agent from Denver he was a guard. We used him at tackle as a necessity. We drafted Reynolds as a tackle but moved him to guard and now we have Mike Johnson who we drafted as a guard and moved him to tackle. It makes no sense to me. :

Paddy O

October 16th, 2012
5:31 pm

well, Brian Billick still likes us.

Paddy O

October 16th, 2012
5:37 pm

BL: I just find if exceptionally odd that we were playing so well the first 3 games – good protection, quick shots to the receivers – and then suddenly since Carolina, our play is not as good – and I’d say that the last 3 opponents were inferior to the first 3 – so, that leads to trepidation – what is the explanation? We were exceptionally lucky against Carolina and Oakland – heck, even the interceptions against WASH were due to us knocking our RG3. Nolan is a fairly known commodity. Welcome Back does not have a good reputation; at least to me. So, the hot/cold start jump starts the doubting. We shall see. The key for Ryan is good pass protection. No point blowing up the passing game/ QB when with our talent, we should be able to win simply off the pass. The Turner quotes from D3 are troubling to me – it appears Turner does not feel a part of the team – but must recognize his own short comings – he is chunky and slow to the hole, and falls over with far too little effort. he is NOT a punishing runner. Time will tell.

Paddy O

October 16th, 2012
5:41 pm

JB – from our draft last year, it appears we bought all the high performance parts to fix the tranny; but the old shade tree mechanic does not trust them – instead, he’s milking the old tranny for all its worth. However, if the old tranny causes the high performance V8 (MR2) to throw a rod, then we are stuck in idle. Not good for the fanbase.

Paddy O

October 16th, 2012
5:43 pm

I;m a little disappointed in the drops by Quizz; not surprised in the drops by Turner – he’ll drop about 50% of the throws to him. JJ – his drops I blame on his hand. Tony G does not really drop much of anything. If we are going to be pass happy, our MR2 needs to have time and room to operate. Bad pass protection ruins that goal. 2 of last 3 have been bad.

Birdman

October 16th, 2012
5:51 pm

Seminole Warrior.

It was just yesterday I was asking where you were . But my Heart told me that something more than the usual was going on.

My friend my brother I honestly can not tell you how much I feel your pain. I have never met you face to face but from day one 5 years ago when I first came to the cage you made me feel welcome here and I knew then you were one of the true men of God and honer that I have never met. I feel as if I have known you all my life.

Your Angel has made her final destination to the infinite life and reward that we all await.And there is no doubt in my mind that( as you have said ) she is sitting beside our Lord and Savior; The God Almighty. Be Strong for your family as I know you are . She has ended her small speak of a life here on earth . Now its for ever with God where she awaits you my friend.

You and your family are in my prayers that your hearts will be comforted in your loss..In your time of mourning pick up your Bible and read it. It has always helped me.
B-Basic
I-Instructions
B-Before
L-leaving
E-Earth

I am sure she read hers often . God Bless You Brother

D3

October 16th, 2012
6:31 pm

I usually like his stuff, but I couldn’t disagree more with Knox Bardeen’s premise on this one. Our OL is pretty horrible, but gimme a break on Turner not breaking or slowing down. You’re obviously not watching the games……..

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1372958-atlanta-falcons-michael-turner-isnt-breaking-down-offensive-line-is-failing

D3

October 16th, 2012
6:47 pm

Slant Pattern

October 16th, 2012
7:06 pm

“Good article by” – D3

I hope you are kidding. That was utter nonsense. I love the “I know M. Ryan was hit while throwing but a real NFL QB doesn’t throw it” garbage. If you know he was hit while throwing then why are you blaming him instead of the crappy O-line that allowed him to get hit. Regression? Did this moron watch the game? I wish some of our more naive fans and these ignorant writers could take half the beating our QB does from our fail line. It wouldn’t make them any less ignorant but it might shut em up for a bit.

tyler

October 16th, 2012
7:17 pm

Whats up cage. Great writeup D3, I agree with just about everything you said.

Some of the holes this OL is opening up would benefit greatly from a RB with speed who really knows how to run north and south. I know A. Smith has been hurt all year, but he has shown he has a gear that Turner and Rodgers both lack so I wonder if we might see him get some oppurtunities once healthy.

One thing I really want to comment on is how Babineaux is playing. That dude is playing off the chain defense right now. He was awesome Sunday. After watching the game and then watching the replay, Babs dominated many times while being double teamed as well as singled up. I wanted to give him a shout out.

I hate to keep harping on Dent, especially since we are 6-0 Baby!!!, but he is not giving us anything against the run. Literally nothing. I don’t know what his tackles are this season but I would be surprised if he is in double digits for the year. I know for a fact he can’t have double digit solo tackles, he might of picked up some pile-on assists along the way but that’s about it.

snacktastic

October 16th, 2012
7:18 pm

SW – Sending my condolences along with the rest of the Cage. Stay strong.

tyler

October 16th, 2012
7:30 pm

Well , I stand corrected, through six games our MLB has 11 solo tackles. I was curious so I looked it up. I’m seriously thinking those stats may be padded so as not to embarass him to much. I’m amazed he has been credited with one more than double digits on the year.

tyler

October 16th, 2012
7:45 pm

Oh, I guess I could chime in on where I think the Falcons are. I still think Matt Ryan looks totally awesome. Some of the passes he is making are so incredibly beautiful and accurate it is ridiculous. I see the picks he threw Sunday as a good thing. I’m glad the dude has the confidence now to let it go. Throw it, I he gets picked he knows he’ll come back and throw a touchdown. I see this as a totally different QB than the last few years.

I’m just gonna say, with 40 seconds left, I was 95% sure we were going to win the game in regulation. I wonder how Ryan felt? It was to easy, there was no way the Raiders were going to keep us from getting 40 yards.

Whose to say Koetter is’nt holding back his play calling from when we really need it. Playoffs for example.

Unca' Bob

October 16th, 2012
7:58 pm

Seminole Warrior,

I am so, so sorry to hear about the passing of your beloved Angel.I know you will remain strong my friend, because your Family needs you. That’s what loving warriors do. The Manion family will hold you in our prayers.

D3

October 16th, 2012
8:25 pm

SP — I half read the article. The part at the end was really all I focused on, which is that one bad game does not a season wreck. We’re cool as long as you don’t talk sh!t about my boy Gallarda, and then I’m grabbing my brass knuckles! :grin:

JJ

October 16th, 2012
8:31 pm

Slant Pattern

October 16th, 2012
8:42 pm

“SP — I half read the article. The part at the end was really all I focused on, which is that one bad game does not a season wreck. We’re cool as long as you don’t talk sh!t about my boy Gallarda, and then I’m grabbing my brass knuckles! ” – D3

I was a little worried he might really be your buddy and didn’t want to get into it. I know he is a young aspiring writer but parts of that were quite possibly the worst stuff I have ever read. He claims to have watched and broken down the plays which I will guarantee he is lying or doesn’t actually know how to break down a play. Two of those interceptions the O-line has completely broken down by 3 seconds and the receivers aren’t into their breaks so trying to completely blame Ryan is pure tosh. That claim about Ryan not being a real NFL QB is what really got me tho. Glad we aren’t at war, you are cool as a person and the kinda writer that if that kid is as smart as some claim, he should strive to be.

Slant Pattern

October 16th, 2012
8:59 pm

On a lighter note, someone asked about Bear Woods, MB I believe. He apparently is still under contract in Canada, nursing an injury, and saving his money.

Unca' Bob

October 16th, 2012
9:01 pm

SP,

Did I read this right? That claim about Ryan not being a real NFL QB is what really got me tho.
Duece is not an NFL QB? What are you reading?

falcon21

October 16th, 2012
9:16 pm

Check out Matt Ryans record, his numbers and come back wins. The dude has carried this team on his shoulders for years with a piss poor O-line and a half-ass OC. “He is not a real NFL QB” is the most stupid statement I have ever read!

WR

October 16th, 2012
9:20 pm

Just going to enjoy my limited time in the cage, but again I’m not worried at this point in the season. The supposed other contenders have bigger issues to fry, let’s see, blame it on the DC when the OC/HC sucks, blame it on the practice squad when your OL can’t protect a dolphin in the Atlantic against a Lion from African. Then let’s see, you lose the face of your franchise for over a decade and one of the best DBs in the game, you have supposedly took a down in the dirt team to respectability if not lead contender-ship only to see them talk smack because they got beat by the eventual champ on some miscues yet get smacked around by said defending champ whom kept quiet as they were preparing to beat the daylights out of you. Moving on, sure you tried to injure players for pay, naw, not really, the words were just misunderstood even though you collected funds from such words, but your team can barely buy a win, probably good to have Norv Turner on your schedule, can anyone say Karma. Then there’s America’s team, hopefully that’s really not announced anywhere outside of America, this country might have it’s problems but I would like to think we’re just not that dysfunctional. I could add the we will be the next SB champ team, could talk about the disarray and lack of identity for the spy gate team and the men of steel, could even go further, but the reality is the Falcons are 6-0 and they have not played their best ball, kind of says a lot when considering the many excuses of the aforementioned.

Matty Bicep

October 16th, 2012
9:44 pm

Lets see whats going on among the league leaders:

9esr get killed by NJ
Texans get Rogered
The mighty Pats are in a dogfight with the jets, Miami and Buffalo at 3-3
Philly fires their coach, tied with team we handled with ease
San Diego, lol, Brancos, beat them

But yea, I am really worried about the Falcons. I said there are no bad teams in the NFL, I got criticized pretty bad….I admit, I am wrong, there and no GOOD teams in the NFL

WR

October 16th, 2012
9:57 pm

By the way Matt Ryan sucks, I mean really sucks, but me as an Atlanta Falcons fan happens to love the fact that he wears the red and black. Maybe wishful thinking on my part, but I honestly believe Matt Ryan is going to suck the life out of some team’s die hard fans as he leads the Falcons to an SB Championship. Yeah, he’s that good, funny, me and SW have been saying since he was drafted to take the governors off, Ryan didn’t ever have a running game in college, just got it done. Now the governor has been taken off, he makes a couple of mistakes and he’s subpar. I have no problem in the idea that seeing is believing, in my mind I’m seeing what I thought was already there, I can only leave it up to Ryan to convince the rest of you non-believers, see Eli Manning for a quick reference.

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
9:57 pm

First and for most great win by the Falcons.

Okay now let get down to the nitty gritty, if the Falcons are going to have a chance at the superbowl this year it’s is imperative the Falcons address the OL, Ice Man is looking bad because of the offensive line with guys getting push back in Ryan face forcing him to have no pocket present.

OL must be fix if the Falcons are going anywhere in the playoffs.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
10:01 pm

Dent is not ready for big boy football right now, he have been horrible so far, when the running back continue to run straight up the gap time after time then there is a major issue at MLB, Dent will continue to hurt this team in the running game if there no adjustment being made.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ChipperisGod

October 16th, 2012
10:04 pm

1) Simple Kickoff – where’s your confidence level after week 6?

Ok. Feel great we’re 6-0, scared about our flaws. Run D, O line and being thin at linebacker is not good. The weak running game too isn’t good and needs to get going, and we’ve been horrible running the ball ever since Ovie went down last year. We need a better fullback, and we need to get better at run blocking.

2) Are the come-from-behind wins still a strength or are they now a weakness?

It’s good because we’re resilient. Bad because we shouldn’t be getting down to the likes of Carolina and Oakland. Especially at home.

3) What was up with Matt Ryan’s bad day: one awful game or disturbing trend?

Just a bad game. He needs better protection for the most part I feel like in those situations. And the run game needs to help him. Still, some of those weren’t good throws, but just one bad game to me.

4) Is John Abraham nearing potential Ring of Honor status soon? Can he keep up this pace all season?

Abe seems to have big games against bad teams in the last two years (Jaguars last year, Raiders this year). He hasn’t stepped up big really against a quality opponent in sometime to the level that I know he’s capable of. However, the rest of the D Line doesn’t help him as we can’t generate any consistent pass rush to speak of. He’s been a great player for us overall and his effort is unquestioned, I say yes on the ring of honor. Overall, he has been great in his time here. The more I think about it, he gets little to no help over the years because there’s no one else on the D Line to consistently help him.

5) Is the Falcons offensive line finally due for a shakeup? What would your starting 5 be at Philly?

I don’t know, I think we should go see what’s out there with free agency on the offensive line. I’m upset with Dimitroff overall with his Julio Jones acquisition. Julio is a very good player and has the potential to be great, but we are so limited in our other positions on the field because we traded five draft picks for a WR. A guy who can be a game changer, but doesn’t get the ball in his hands enough simply for the fact that he is a WR. NO matter how great the WR is, it’s not worth it. We are now thin on the DL and the OL because of that move.

And we have no real FB to block in the running game because we got rid of Ovie after he was hurt because we’re moving to a pass oriented attack. Well, we need a better O line if Matt’s going to continue his good season, and to get the running game going because they are giving Burner nothing to work with. Even if he is in decline, the man has no holes ever.

6) What should the Birds do @ RB? Is more speed desperately needed?

Better blocking and gotta see what we can find in the draft next year, or free agency or trade. Burner is in decline, but he’s not done yet.

7) What’s your thoughts on the DT play?

They’ve done decently, getting Peters back will help.

8.) Are the LB issues keeping you up at night? Thoughts on Dent?

Dent is ok, but without Nicholas, we are thin. Spoon can’t do everything by himself. Not getting a back up was a bad move, and even though I get why we got rid of Lofton because of the shift to a Nickel oriented defense, it’s killing our run defense not to have a true MLB.

9) It’s an impossible question, but why is the offense digressing so bad?

Bad blocking, no FB, Turner older. As I’ve said.

10) Should Harry Douglas or others get more touches?

Yes, he should, he can really break one if he gets the chance, and should get more shots, but when you have Roddy, Julio and Tony, it can be hard to be targeting Harry as much, but that’s what makes him so valuable. He’s the guy that not many people are paying attention to.

11) What should the Falcons do about TE after Gonzalez retires?

Look to the draft and don’t use 5 draft picks to get one, eh Thomas?

12) What is the deal with the Falcons failure to develop ANY OTHER defensive end?

I don’t know, but it really bugs me. O Line and D Line are the key to winning Super Bowls. O Line to protect the quarterback and the D Line to wreak havoc on the opponent’s quarterback. That’s one reason NYG crushed us last year and won the Super Bowl. IF we can improve those two facets, we are contenders for a Super Bowl. Until we do though, I fear for us in the playoffs again. This also goes right back to Dimitroff giving all those picks up.

13) What side do you fall on: happy to 6-0 and plenty of time to correct problems or seriously worried about what the future holds?

I’m right on the fence, and as an Atlanta sports fan, I’m cautiously optimistic. I do believe in this Falcons team more than any other I’ve ever watched. But I am seriously worried about O line, D Line, FB and RB.

We must correct these things, and they must be corrected quickly. Improvement or a free agent acquisition should be in order. Is the trade dead line up yet? Maybe we need to make a trade, I don’t know.

Rise up, dirty birds, rise up!

D3

October 16th, 2012
10:05 pm

I have no problem whatsoever admitting that there is a definite bias against the Falcons. It may be a northeast vs. southern thing (perhaps jealous of the SEC thing), but honestly I think it’s just a bias against our franchise record, which no one that has anything to do with the current Falcons can do anything about.

Instead of seeing how awesome this current regime is including Smith / Dimitroff / Blank, they simply scoff at the thought of us being taken serious………..because our past. But if you look at what this regime has had to overcome in it’s relatively short history, it’s simply amazing and here’s two of the biggest ones:

1) Never had back-to-back winning seasons in the history of the franchise until 2008 and 2009

2) Mike Smith is about to become the all-time winningest coach in franchise history barely into his 5th year.

3 losses in playoffs, who gives a flying F—. This regime has done an amazing job simply throwing all those terrible albatrosses (and their are many) off their collective backs known as our franchise history, mainly due to selfish ownership and incompetent management.

Regardless of what even happens, I’m damn proud to call myself an Atlanta Falcon fan, because I know with Blank / Dimitroff / and Smith, we’re going to be competitive and give ourselves a chance to win in the postseason. It’s going to happen, just a matter of time.

Slant Pattern

October 16th, 2012
10:09 pm

“SP,

Did I read this right? That claim about Ryan not being a real NFL QB is what really got me tho.
Duece is not an NFL QB? What are you reading?” – UB

It is from a BleacherReport article, if one wants to be polite and call it such. That should be enough said. I get as annoyed by the M. Ryan “elite” stuff as I do the hack attack garbage about his suckitude. Whatever M. Ryan really is, if nothing else he is OUR QB right now and after watching the “elite” P. Rivers massive fail at a comeback last night our fans should be happy that is so. The QB will always get all the blame and all the hoorahs from the majority of casual fans, no problem there as thats just the way things are… BUT…I do think the writer crossed the line with the “no real” QB comment. No real writer would put such drivel and nonsense on display for the world to see.

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
10:10 pm

My sleeper game ball so far this season is Robert Mcclain, this guy is beasting out there he have stood his ground so far this seaons and played solid NCB, before i was affraid when Grimes went down, but Robert Mcclain could be the next Brent Grimes.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
10:22 pm

ADJUSTMENT NEED TO BE MADE ON THE OL.

HOLMES, BLALOCK, KONZ, CLABO, BAKER

This will allow Falcons to protect Ryan better and also give them more strength up the middle, Turner and Quizz are not able to started because of the lack of strength up front

Lamar Holmes and Konz must starte ASAP or it will be another disaster like last year against the Giants in playoffs.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

falcon21

October 16th, 2012
10:24 pm

darrell, I hope he can be much better than Brent Grimes, I’m not and have never been impressed with Grimes play. The man gets beat early and often. To say he was our best corner as many say is a joke.

D3

October 16th, 2012
10:25 pm

darrell — What’s up brother? Couldn’t agree anymore whatsoever. Enough is enough. What do we have to lose? Or I’d even try something like Holmes, Blalock, Konz, Clabo, Reynolds. Just try SOMETHING else for chrissake.

LRD

October 16th, 2012
10:26 pm

Darell.. have to agree on Mac. He has been a wonderful surprise for this team. And again, I do miss Grimes, but now it appears we potentially have his replacement heading into next year and grimes contract.

As far as Ryan.. even the paper here in Minneapolis gave him props… yes they chipped him on the INT’s in the last game, but they gave him high marks for mental toughness.

It just amazes me though folks knocking the Falcons.. sloppy wins, coming back from deficits etc.. but the key is, they came back, they won. The may finally have the mentality of a winner.. and that does not cover all the problems.. but a team that believes it can win, and knows that when it is down, that is never out… well that is the attitude of a team that could go far into the playoffs.
My 02… mileage may vary

falcon21

October 16th, 2012
10:26 pm

Agree about the O-line though. Later!

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
10:26 pm

I like Snelling alot 2 but if there is no path up the middle guest what, there is no gain from line of scrimmage.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
10:32 pm

D3, My Brother im done with Dent right now, there is no time for waste when this could be the year for Falcons to go all the way 2 superbowl, Dent just look so far out of place that it’s not even funny lol!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
10:35 pm

LB

NICHOLAS, SPOON, KROY

There has to be some changes on this team, im a firm believer of always putting your best players on the field to make plays, and Dent is just not getting the job done right now.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

waynester

October 16th, 2012
10:38 pm

Great news about our Punter from Pat Y–
Matt averaged 52.8yds/punt (Net and gross) on 4 punts of 55,45,57&54–best in the league this week–best for any punter in the NFL this season–tied for 3rd best in the league for the last 5 years–best for any Atlanta punter since 1991(when they started keeping track of this stat)….he’s shown steady improvement and with the other Matt(s) Bryant and Ryan, we’ve got quite a trio….

Coop

October 16th, 2012
10:42 pm

Waynester – I don’t eat crow often on draft choices… I still think Spoon was a bad choice (argument done, so don’t offer). That said, I completely wiffed on Ryan (I wanted Dorsey) and Bosher. I am in the camp of NEVER draft a punter. Bosher has prooved to be well worth the selection.

LRD

October 16th, 2012
10:47 pm

Coop… wholeheartedly agree.. punted crow tastes very good…

waynester

October 16th, 2012
10:48 pm

If we can keep him improving steadily, he’s working his way toward us having the best kicking tandem in the league, seeing as Bryant has only missed one try this season, too….

waynester

October 16th, 2012
10:58 pm

Coop & LRD
I was very much in favor of us taking Bosher where we did and I believe that once you’ve found a consistent kicker–pay the man. A great punter flips the field for you and a great kicker–well, most games are decided by a FG or less so, they’re worth their weight in gold…
ps do ya’ll remember John James? My brother had his jersey back when we were kids….

DHunt

October 16th, 2012
11:14 pm

SW, Psalms 121 says look to the hills from whence cometh your help. Keep your head up.

I’m gonna answer these here questions, and piss some of you off. That’s a good thing though, because we have two whole weeks to snipe at each other and get all riled up for that Philly game.

1) Confidence level? SKY HIGH. Every last viewer of the Falcons knows they need to improve. So what? They way I’ve seen teams melt down all year long, is something I simply don’t see this Falcons team experiencing. Even when things aren’t going well, I expect them to find a way to get over, or through the obstacles. Can’t think of one other team in the NFL that I feel the same way about. And that’s not homerism, that is an objective look at the way teams have responded to adversity thus far.

2) Are the come-from-behind wins still a strength? Trying to wrap my head around exactly how WINNING can be considered a weakness? The ability to improvise, adapt, and overcome as a detriment? I read that someone thinks the team will lose confidence from being in that position. That’s a stretch, not really anchored in anything we’ve seen from this organization in four plus years, and seems quite a bit like looking for a negative. So I’m gonna go with STRENGTH. Revel in your adversity for that which doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.

3) Matt Ryan’s bad day? No matter how I go with this one, I’m gonna be called a hater. So let’s start with the fact that Matt is the best QB in Falcons history. Unfortunately with the Falcons history, that’s not really saying all that much. MR2 is also still pretty young in the game, has a bit of maturing and growing left to do. The biggest trend I see from him is the tendency to fall back to his comfort levels. he doesn’t seem to like to try hitting receivers in motion or anticipating breaks. He’s more comfortable hitting the stationary or comeback route. This isn’t necessarily a knock on him, and it’s likely the product of being coached not to lose, rather than being trained to win. But his best tendency is winning. I’ll take that along with any flaws that can be fixed any day of the week.

4) Is John Abraham = Ring of Honor. Best defensive end to wear the Red and Black? At least top 5. If he stays healthy, he stays effective. Would be nice to get a few more of those comfortable leads so the coaches would feel more confident giving the younger guys more playing time. When it’s still in doubt, you want your best on the front line. Abe is our best.

5) Falcons offensive line? A work in progress. And that’s being charitable. But last year, the consensus was FIRE BAKER. Smitty went the other way, and thus far it’s been successful. There will be times when it breaks down, when individuals lose their mano-emano matchups. That happens to every team every game. No need to be in full panic mode just yet. I’d rather assume that the Falcons are putting what they feel is the best combo on the field every game.

6) @ RB? Smith is the only thing vaguely resembling a speed back we have, and when he was healthy he couldn’t take the job from the guys in front of him. Yet the brilliant minds in this forum and others are calling for him to limp off the bench? And do what? This is more a matter of scheme, and the fact that Turner can’t cut back so it’s useless to ask him to do so. Better try some (more) counters.

7) DT play? Thought this would be a weak spot this year. happy to say I was wrong. Peria is getting doubled teamed almost every down, Babs is getting penetration almost every down. Abe is Abe. Vance and Bierman are working hard and making some plays, just not being stellar or splashy. And we’ve got some decent depth to work with on the edges and in the middle with Peters set to return. da-da-da-da-da…I’m lovin’ it. Just need to tackle a little bit better and they will start being recognized as a real strength of the defense.

8.) LB issues? We’ve got one of tthe best in the league in Spoon, and another very good one in St. Nick, who just happens to be nicked up right now. Dent just played more in one game than he has his entire career, and the breakdowns we saw against the Raiders can’t all be laid at his feet. Like I said earlier, with the exception of the three runs of 20, 14, and 43 yards, we basically kept the Raiders run game in check. Dent will be fine, although he may never be a real big impact guy, because Nolan’s scheme doesn’t seem to put him in positions to be that guy.

9) Offense digressing? First of all, I thing you meant regressing. Second, other teams are preparing better, and we’re just misfiring on one cylinder. Just needs a little tune-up guys. No need to total out the car when you can tweak the timing.

10) Should Harry Douglas or others get more touches? Hells yeah. I’ld like to run 75 plus plays every game and get Harry 7 touches, Quizz 10, Tony G 14, Roddy and Julio 15 each, and Tuner gets the rest, preferably mostly in the fourth quarter. Of course I’m wise enough to know that ain’t gonna happen every week, so I’d settle for getting him a few QUALITY touches each week. Same for the rest of our playmakers. It’s Quality, not quantity, that determines efficiency and ultimately the success of the entire offense.

11) After Gonzalez retires? Same thing every team does. Next man up. The next guy may or may not be as good as Gonzo. But somebody is going to get the chance to try. Best thing to do if Tony G doesn’t want to play anymore is retain his services as a consultant to mentor and train his successor.

12) For once, I have absolutely no idea.

13) Happy to 6-0 and plenty of time to correct problems! Because every team in the league is trying to correct problems. But none of them are 6-0!

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
11:39 pm

D HUNT, let me help you on the Dent situation when your rank 26th against the run on defense and teams are running the ball straight up the gap, then there is a major issue at MLB.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
11:44 pm

Teams are AVG 5. 2 yards a carrie, the second highest in the league.

Guest who rank dead last ? BILLS 5.8 yards a carrie

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

October 16th, 2012
11:47 pm

D HUNT, Why not move Spoon 2 play MLB and let Kroy play OLB ?

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DHunt

October 17th, 2012
12:19 am

d starks, before the Raider game, Dent was barely in the game for 10% of the snaps. so how you gonna use stats that were generated with him sitting on the bench to show why he should be sitting on the bench? Dude. You can do better than that.

DHunt

October 17th, 2012
12:25 am

And I don’t think Kroy has the speed to be the necessary cover guy that an OLB needs to be. You see how Spoon swallowed up McFadden on the wide outlet passes to the HB? Kroy can’t make that play. I’d almost rather give Kroy a shot on the inside, but I don’t think he has the instincts for that. Keoy might be a decent pass rushing OLB, but right now he’s not showing that he can get to the QB consistently from the DE, even when standing up. He applies pressure, and often that’s enough to make a difference, but he’s not getting the sacks. Not complaining about him, because he’s a high motor guy, and I never had that high an expectation for him to begin with.

DHunt

October 17th, 2012
12:31 am

starks I am with you on the McClain call. I saw that he was the best corner after our starters in the pre-season, and probably better than Dunta in coverage. I would almost rather have him on the outside and Dunta on the slot. He is always right there in coverage and is a better ball hawk. But again, can’t really complain about D Rob because he is bringing the pain out there every week. I almost can’t be mad at him for not wrapping up sometimes, because he hits so dam hard.

Big Ray

October 17th, 2012
12:49 am

First and foremost,

Seminole Warrior , so sorry for your loss but rejoice in the rejoining of a soul to where it belongs and where it came from. May your grieving be short, but not fruitless.

Big Ray

October 17th, 2012
1:36 am

Some good observations on Kroy Biermann, but I also think it is not possible to properly evaluate what he can or can’t do at the LB position.

A few reasons for that.

1) Standing up at the DE position doesn’t do a whole lot to change the situation or the circumstances therein. At the DE position, you STILL must possess the right combinatin of speed/strength/weight/leverage to have an effect. Kroy with his hands in the dirt six inches away from a massive OT is not much different than Kroy standing up six inches away from a massive OT. He still can’t use his speed, because that isn’t his type of speed.

2) I’ve watched Biermann run laterally and bring down both RBs and WRs. He can go from sideline to sideline. Can he cover? I don’t know, I’ve watched him in a few such instances, he wasn’t getting burnt. But you gotta teach a guy and put him in position to do these things…if you do it once or twice in 200-300 snaps, that ain’t gonna get it. He doesn’t get the reps/seasoning, and then it’s hard to judge him on it when he isn’t getting a chance to learn anything.

3) The best LBs cannot be counted on to get sacks and/or make plays in the backfield if they aren’t backing up a DL that is winning battles.

Let me say that another way – the guys in the trenches have to create problems or at least stack the opposing OL up to the point of where they cannot be choosing which line mate to help out, or account for additional rushers.

This has BEEN a problem for the Falcons, especially in regard to DT. Our best hope was a healthy Babineaux and a healthy Corey Peters. Babs is the penetrating type, Peters can penetrate some but anchors well against the run. He can also make plays. However, we have rarely had both guys in there at full health and at a high rate of production. Last year, it was Babs who wasn’t healthy. This year, it’s Peters.

Babs is getting some age on him, but playing fairly well this season. We don’t know if Peters will ever be 100% healthy this season.

Walker has been a very good stand-in and Jerry has had a few moments of legitimacy.

But not once have we had a dominator, a guy who MUST be accounted for, a guy who commands double teams of ANY sort.

And that, my friends, is the lynchpin of any defense, and the exact key to good production from your LBs. I don’t care how talented they are, even in a 3-4. They will struggle to make plays in the opposing team’s backfield if the guys in the trenches aren’t either outright winning the battle of the line of scrimmage, or at least causing enough problems to where the opposing OL simply cannot account for the LBs…leaving them in position to make plays.

Case in point …..anybody remember the “forgettable” year sackmaster Clay Matthews had last season? It’s not that he didn’t have a good season. 50 tackles isn’t awesome, but 6 sacks is nothing to sniff at (and more than any Falcon LB has had in a good while). But it wasn’t a Clay Matthews season. This guy had been averaging almost 12 sacks a season…since his rookie year. And this season, he’s already up to 8 sacks and 25 tackles…and the season ain’t even halfway over yet.

What’s the key? B.J. Raji and the other Packer DL players. Raji had a good season in 2010. He had 39 tackles and 6.5 sacks. Guess who else had a good season? That guy playing a couple feet behind him – Mr. Matthews. 13.5 sacks, plenty of tackles. He got to do what he is supposed to do – make plays.

Then Matthews has a “way down in production” season in 2011, as discussed above? Guess who else had a less than stellar performance? One B.J. Raji….who had almost exactly HALF of the production that he put out in 2010.

As it is, Raji isn’t playing all that great, but he’s not the only big DT the Packers have. All Raji really has to do is either cause the problem himself by making a play, or occupy two Offensive Linemen. Fortunately for Mr. Matthews and the Packers, others are getting the job done. Big 340 lb Ryan Pickett is causing problems with 19 tackles of his own. He’s on pace to get 50+ tackles at his position. 290 DE CJ Wilson is producing from the end with 13 tackles and 2 sacks. Rookie DE Jerel Worthy, at 310 lbs is doing damage – 9 tackles, 2 sacks.

In short, these guys are doing enough to keep opposing OL players very much occupied, leaving Matthews plenty of space to make his own plays because teams MUST account for them.

By Contrast ,

Once again…and this is disappointing…the Falcons provide no real reason to load up on the 4 defensive lineman we employ when we’re running a 4-3 base….outside of John Abraham, who gets held more than the new girlfriend when the ex walks by….

The numbers simply don’t lie. Our DEs are SMALL. Ray Edwards is the heaviest at 280 or so pounds. Abe has 15 tackels and 6 sacks. As usual, he had one good game where he got half of those sacks.

Edwards isn’t doing much of anything. Dude has 8 tackles…and pretty much nothing else to speak of. Kroy Biermann has only 1 sack, but he’s blowing both guys out of the water with 23 tackles.

Peria Jerry has 6 tackles, nothing else. Babineaux has 14 tackles and 2.5 sacks…respectable but not a world beater by any imagination.

Vance Walker has 11 tackles and 2 sacks….. he should be the starter, not Jerry .

And that’s it. Our DL isn’t setting the edge or the interior against the run in most cases, and when we win on the edge, it’s only because of two guys – Abe and the Bier Truck….and that edge goes to the Bier Truck.

We aren’t getting it done inside if Babs isn’t doing it…Walker doesn’t play enough to be blamed for most of this and simple fact that I’ve observed is that our run defense is better when Walker is in the game. He’s bigger at 305 lbs or so, allowing Babs to penetrate and our LBs and DEs to capture opposing RBs as they are forced towards the outer edges or at least outside of the tackles.

All of the biggest runs against us have come either between the tackles, or when we’ve blitzed at the wrong time. There have been a LOT of gashes up the middle, because our interior DL has not been able to win that battle.

Back to Biermann….I think in a 3-4 set or full time at LB in a 4-3 hybrid set would reveal something different than what we’ve seen so far. But ONLY if we can get better at DT. Until then, you will notice that our other LBs are also not making as many backfield plays as we’d like.

Nicholas and Spoon are doing quite well…but the blitzes just aren’t producing numbers, and it’s very clearly linked to one thing – defensive line performance…and that all starts at the DT position.

Getting Peters back may be a big help, or it may not be as big a help as we’d like because there is no guarantee he won’t get reinjured or that he’ll be anywhere close to 100%. . Getting a strong and heavy guy like Travian Robertson coached up and/or drafting a big strong DT next season will likely help as much or more.

It’s times like these that I lament the fact that we didn’t pick up such a guy in the draft, though there also wasn’t a guarantee that guys such as Brandon Thompson of Clemson would have had the immediate impact we needed.

Unca' Bob

October 17th, 2012
8:10 am

Big Ray,

B Thompson-http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/brandon-thompson/98a5866d-b21a-4f38-ba3f-855301057bff/

Unca' Bob

October 17th, 2012
8:10 am

DHunt

October 17th, 2012
9:18 am

I shall humbly defer to the defensive line expertise espoused by our esteemed Big Ray. I still don’t think they’ve played badly, but it’s fair to say they aren’t the world beaters one might hope for. I haven’t had the time to pull all the rush numbers for every game, but it’s been my impression in most games that there are a lot of short runs and/or runs for negative yards, but we get gashed for 2-4 long ones each game and that throws the averages and overall stats over to the realm of looking shaky in the run stopping department.

I’d also wonder if there isn’t still an element of bend but don’t break to which our lowly status on defense can be at least partially attributed.

Paddy O

October 17th, 2012
11:45 am

Big Lou: I guess stupid comments are like obscenity, and as the Supreme Court indicated, I can’t tell you exactly what it is, but I recognize it when I see it: now, there are no good teams in the NFL. The gift that keeps on giving. A combination of pollyanna and asinine idealism is not a winner – just look at the US economy.

Paddy O

October 17th, 2012
11:49 am

Folks like to assert that Abe has great games against lesser opponents – do other “great” player NOT also play against similar lesser opponents? yes, againt top flight guys you are not going to dominate vs. lesser opponents – but, Abe’s dominance in the Oakland game won us the game. Our D has played intimidating ball thus far this year – a ton of highlight turnovers disrupting the offenses efforts. Yeah, we give up some big plays – but if we keep the other team from scoring and score on defense to help the team win, is that a fair/equitable trade? Plus, I think Dent is having some learning curve hurdles. But in the draft, we ID’d LB as a weak point on the Falcons, and the signing of Tatupo – a substantial flyer – failed. So, we still have that problem.

Paddy O

October 17th, 2012
11:55 am

dhunt – glad you picked up on that Turner failure – no cut back/lateral movement capability. Without a line to move the pile, and missing Ovie blocking in front of him – Turne is deteriorating into a 1 trick pony – we’ve tried to make him 2 trick – and that 60 yard screen pass rumble gave a glimmer of hope; but, he drops far too many to depend on this play.

Paddy O

October 17th, 2012
11:58 am

I’m hoping with the long 2 weeks, we make some adjustments on our O line – letting Konz play RG, and possible Holmes; plus I’m hoping we use Bieerman more at the LB spot. We shall see.

Chop Buster

October 17th, 2012
12:13 pm

1) Simple Kickoff – where’s your confidence level after week 6? I’m about 80% confident this team can hang with any team this year, WHEN…they continue to do the little things (execute, tackle, stay aggressive through 4 quarters). This is even with a number of positions that we are lacking real talent at.

2) Are the come-from-behind wins still a strength or are they now a weakness? They are definitely a strength. Ryan is beginning to show the confidence he once had in 2008, before Mularkey removed his balls. Koetter helped get them back. LOL

3) What was up with Matt Ryan’s bad day: one awful game or disturbing trend? Um, let me see…defense in his face all day, receivers running lazy routes, Turner still running up Polite’s azz. We have to give the Raiders credit as well for disrupting the rhythm of our offense. It was a bad day for Ryan.

4) Is John Abraham nearing potential Ring of Honor status soon? Most definitely. Can he keep up this pace all season? I sure hope so. But we still need some of these other mediocre BVG recruits to step up as well.

5) Is the Falcons offensive line finally due for a shakeup? LONGGG DUE!What would your starting 5 be at Philly? Konz at RG, Reynolds RT, and help to Baker’s side to protect against Trent Cole (who had a field day against Baker last time we played them).

6) What should the Birds do @ RB? Is more speed desperately needed? We need our own Marshawn Lynch type of RB…power, speed and refuses to go down. Turner needs to grow a pair and learn to bounce the ball outside, Rogers is just lost…really, he looks absolutely lost. Snelling needs more playing time to get in a rhythm; did pretty good when Turner was out injured that year.

7) What’s your thoughts on the DT play? We need a true NT in the middle regardless if we run 4-3 or 3-4.

8.) Are the LB issues keeping you up at night? Yep. They are not good at fighting off OLinemen, using their hands, and they seem out of position a lot. Thoughts on Dent? Oh lawd! We’d be better off putting Biermann in the MLB spot. Dent needs to be a weak side backer, he’s not a MLB at the NFL level.

9) It’s an impossible question, but why is the offense digressing so bad? Someone is getting away from our strengths again (throw it all over the field to open the running game, and keep taking shots deep to keep defenses honest). We played right into the Raider’s hands by not throwing it over top of them. Besides there was a lot of PI that wasn’t being called on them by the refs. That’s why our guys have to continue to fight for the ball.

10) Should Harry Douglas or others get more touches? I don’t know about Harry. He’s been getting shoved and thrown down by defenders this year. Does he have helium in his shoes? I’d rather see Cone with a little more size and speed go into the slot. But Smitty remains too loyalty to starters to do that. Or maybe Koetter doesn’t have faith in Harry either. Who knows, but we need to continue to be creative and keep teams off guard.

11) What should the Falcons do about TE after Gonzalez retires? I hope they have the TE Coffman getting some tips from TG before he gets out of here. Also, they need to draft another TE next year and let them all fight it.

12) What is the deal with the Falcons failure to develop ANY OTHER defensive end? I don’t know, but it’s time to find that true playmaking beast through the draft or free agency next year. No more of these small DEs.

13) What side do you fall on: happy to 6-0 and plenty of time to correct problems or seriously worried about what the future holds? To be honest, I didn’t know what to expect from this team with the new coordinators and holes we have at some key positions. I’m enjoying being 6-0 and just going along for the ride. I see vast improvements already and imagine how we will be after another year of Nolan bringing in his type of defenders. He’s had a pretty good track record selecting players at Denver, SF and Miami. So we have plenty to look forward to in the future.

Slant Pattern

October 17th, 2012
12:26 pm

Holy big post BR! Nice stuff. UB’s link seems to suggest B. Thompson hasn’t started and played in 3 games so far. That doesn’t sound like difference making. I’ll leave the defense stuff to you…I see evidence of individual game planning and in game adjustments by Nolan so I haven’t been as concerned with the D.
Koetter has 2 weeks to work on things, let’s hope he does. It is understandable wanting to be aggressive with deeper routes but he has to realize the O-line is not up to that capabillty full time yet. Our opponents have used similar game plans defensvely the past 3 games and Koetter needs to adjust. Tweak the routes to reflect that even with only a 4 man rush, three seconds is what they are giving Ryan. He needs to better incorporate our running and screen attack to punish opposing defenses that sit in cover 2 deep safety with zone LBs all day long. This should have already been done but we can only hope he figures it out by the Eagles game.

John Waynesworld

October 17th, 2012
12:33 pm

Interesting graph on our weekly power ranking. If you isolate 2008, I don’t think there are too many teams in NFL history that could boast that kind of progression from basically out of nowhere…

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/teams/powerchart?team=atl

Big Lou

October 17th, 2012
1:22 pm

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nfcsouth&id=40423

To those putting the blame mostly on coaching. Falcons are not only undefeated, but leads the league in dropped passes.

Big Lou

October 17th, 2012
1:27 pm

The more I think about it, the more it seems clear to me that the bad play versus the Raiders were due to everyone trying to be perfect, instead of playing the game. All these execution problems seem to show me that players are too worried about their record. Or, they just came out unfocused against them.

Matty Bicep

October 17th, 2012
1:27 pm

BL, not are we the only undefeated team, there is only one 1-loss team. There are not 0 win team…I am guessing that has rarely ever happened. Sure we have talent, but the other teams have just as much trying to stop us.

Matty Bicep

October 17th, 2012
1:30 pm

I also think that being undefeated become a distraction, and teams don’t generally perform at their best as the pressure mounts game after game… Really, I don’t expect to see us come out and hit on all cylinders until we actually lose a game.

Matty Bicep

October 17th, 2012
1:38 pm

If you throw out the teams that have only played 5 games, there is:

1 undefeated team
3 one loss teams
2 one WIN teams
21 teams with 2-3 or 4 losses, all within 2 games of each other.

Chop Buster

October 17th, 2012
2:08 pm

SW sorry to hear about your loss. My prayers go out to you and your family.

Matty Bicep

October 17th, 2012
2:28 pm

Stat of the Day.

On Sunday, Ryan converted his 19th “tied or come from behind” 4th quarter/Overtime victory (Game Winning Drive). That give him a .633 W-L percentage when being tied, or down one score in the 4th quarter (He has been tied or down one score in the 4th quarter 30 times), passing Tom Brady at .617 for #1 in NFL history with at least 30 opportunities.

Also, the overall list of tied or come from behind 4th quarter-OT victories is:

Dan Marino 51
Payton Manning 48
John Elway 46
Brett Farve 45
Warren Moon 37
Tom Brady 37
Vinny T 33
Joe Montana 31

Ice in 4 years has 19. If he plays 10 more years, he is on track for 65.

BTW, MV7 has 14.

Slant Pattern

October 17th, 2012
2:39 pm

“Stat of the Day.” – MB

Excellent find MB. I will have to find the article but M. Ryan is nearing the halfway mark to that record that Brees just broke for consective games with a TD…21 in row I think. I would love it if he could take that one from Bree’s stat padding, cheating arse lol.

single white dove

October 17th, 2012
2:56 pm

Our offensive line needs to hold the gap. I think that thwe holes close too fast…js

Matty Bicep

October 17th, 2012
3:32 pm

I said it before, Ryan is the best QB to be drafted since Aaron Rogers in 06. As the old guard retires, I expect Rogers-Ryan to be the new Brady-Manning. We have a few promising young guys, but like Cam is finding out, you have to evolve as Defenses study your tape, and continue to evolve.

Right now it is 1-1 regular season and 0-1 in the playoffs, but I suspect there will be many more, and both of them retiring with a handful of records and a few rings for each.

Last week, meh, a lousy game, but come crunch time, he showed what he is about. Like I said, I don’t expect then to play their best until they lose a game and get the undefeated pressure off.

Paddy O

October 17th, 2012
4:38 pm

MB and I disagree on a lot, but in trusting in the Ryan Express is not one of them. The key to Ryans off play the last 3 games? Bad O line play – especially if you are not expecting it.

Paddy O

October 17th, 2012
4:39 pm

If Clabo is really hurt, why keep trotting him out there like we did Baker? Make him look bad? We should have a viable replacement for him at this point.

DePlane

October 17th, 2012
6:58 pm

SW, I’m sorry for the late words, I’ve been away. Our hearts go out to you and your family at this time of your Angel’s passing to the great father in the sky. Despair not, and remember all the good she brought into your life, helping to make you who you are today. Which by all accounts is a fine man who we are blessed to have as a huge part of the cage. Your memories of her will always be with you and there for you to take strength and solace in from the life she lived and the incredible meaning she gave to yours. Peace Brother.

DePlane

October 17th, 2012
7:00 pm

Big Ray, so glad to see your back to giving us your insight and wisdom, and hope you are feeling much better as time goes on.

WR

October 17th, 2012
7:17 pm

As part of the debate about the current status of the Falcons, now some argue giving up the picks for Julio has cost the Falcons alone the DL and OL. That is a valid opinion but without much reliability. One, the Falcons were already invested in Sam Baker who hasn’t been that bad this year, finally, Blalock is solid, McClure wasn’t yet set to be replaced, Clabo was coming off a Pro bowl year, which left RG as the only potential selection in the 2nd rd, yes the 2nd rd because the Falcons gave up their 1st for a 1st, unless we would assume they could take the RG in the 1st the following year another pick they gave up. Now that’s considering the OL, on to the DL, Abe was solid, there was no solid expectations for the other DE spot opposite Abe, just two years earlier the Falcons drafted a DT and the jury was still out because he suffered a major knee injury and it normally takes a season or 2 before a player comes back from such injury. Babs was solid at the other DT position, so its a reach to believe the Falcons would have went there in the 1st place.

Lastly, there’s reality, when considering reality, one has to consider the draft is like a good game of poker even when not dealt out in Vegas, its all about hindsight. Like Coop, I wanted Dorsey when the Falcons took Ryan, as we eat our crow the logic isn’t lost, it’s alot easier to find a good DT then it is to find a franchise QB. The real truth is that if the Falcons hadn’t gotten anything out of the trade, its a ridiculous trade to have made, but they got one of the up and coming Superstar receivers in the league. Sure the argument can be made, well they could have had such and such, that’s not a reliable argument because even if such and such is excelling now, there was no guarantee they would have with the Falcons, but factually as a Falcons fan you can say that Julio is take the top off of opposing defenses, and causing DC’s great concern, hindsight hasn’t changed, its still 20/20, reality hasn’t changed either, it rarely matches up with hindsight.

DePlane

October 17th, 2012
7:25 pm

I’m not going to worry myself about the Falcons shortcomings, the lack of respect in the media and the credit that nobody gives them. Begrudgingly ranked #1 in ther power rankings with all sorts of disclaimers and caveats.

Much analysis has been done on the way they have played this season, and moreso Who they have played. The citing of the combined losing record of the teams they have played, blah, blah, blah. For those of us who have been watching these Falcons for forty years have learned not to look a gift horse in the mouth. 6-0. Again…..6-0. Do they have issues? Duh, of course! Show me one team in the league who doesn’t!

Brady and company lost to the Seahawks! The 9′ers were pounded by the Giants! Houston was annihilated by Green Bay! There are what, 11 or 12 3-3 teams?

The Ravens lost Ray Lewis and Ladarius Webb!! Michael VIck is a fumbling machine and the Iggles are -9 in turnovers while the Falcons are +10!!

The Falcons have their issues, but they don’t have “those” kind of issues.

The point is that parity reigns supreme in the NFL and the term “elite” is overused and fleeting. Teams who you expect to win all the time just plain don’t and if you could pickem’ every week then head to Vegas or get a bookie…your a genius and can make a fortune.

Me, I’ll take 6-0 and enjoy it to the hilt….even with all of our issues. Sure Ryan had a bad game last week, and the last three weeks they haven’t looked so good while WINNING. But what did they do when things weren’t going perfectly for them? They freakin’ persevered! They didn’t lay down and they didn’t give up. The team has got some mojo! They are a TEAM to be reckoned with no matter who they play.

Like I said, we got issues. But me…I’m savoring the moment during this bye and enjoying 6-0 right now. It is unlikely any team is going to win every game. But, it isn’t beyond probability and the Falcons have won EVERY game, right Now! Enjoy it!!!

I think they will make adjustments, I think they will work hard. Look at everything they have done to get to the point of being a consistent winner over the last four years. They know what the next step is…playoff win. They know what to do to get there, and I believe will know what to do when they get there this time.

But first things first with the NFC East and Division opponents coming up. You don’t get to the playoffs unless you win during the regular season. And this team is all about taking care of its business, right now!

ymmotretsof

October 17th, 2012
7:31 pm

I like the 6-0 start. I hate to say it but they could be in for a hard time against some old foes if thry don’t wake up and get a better game plan. The last three teams seemed to know what was coming. The defence has to learn to stand up and stop teams when it counts. Matt Ryan can not keep called the bring them back at the end of the game.

DePlane

October 17th, 2012
7:41 pm

Rip, Beat, Crush, Escape, Edge, Squeak! Lol! Telling it may be D3…or maybe not…but I’ll add Win at the end of that and look for future headlines that say Dominated, Pulverized, and take Squeak again any day!

DePlane

October 17th, 2012
7:49 pm

“We are a scoring team” – Mike Smith

Not a passing team, not a running team…but a scoring team. Any way you can get it baby!

I like that mentality. This team is a chameleon. It can change its colors to suit the situation. It can go into attack mode in an instant. I think there is more to come from Koetter and Nolan. I don’t believe we have seen everything in the arsenal. We are in the middle of the second quarter of the season. Expect some new wrinkles. Smith will ground this team in his clockwork like workman attitude. Not too high, not too low. A week and a half of Bye time to tweak things and fix things.

Matty Bicep

October 17th, 2012
8:29 pm

Brady and company lost to the Seahawks! The 9′ers were pounded by the Giants! Houston was annihilated by Green Bay! There are what, 11 or 12 3-3 teams?

Lets for forget about San Diego, for all the gnashing of teeth when Payton tried to claw his way back into our game, it could be worse, way worse….I was watching ESPN and everyone was complaining how San Diego just does not know how to put teams away….hmm, maybe it is not that easy after all.

JB FALCON

October 17th, 2012
9:06 pm

So how does the cage feel about 6-0? Judging by what I have read so far I think the cage is leaning towards concerned optimism. The have been many optimistic posts and a lot with concerns, which is normal. We ALL want the same thing, it’s just that some are more “homers”, if that’s what you want to call optimists, and I am one, and some offer more concerned criticism but the bottom line, as has been said is that we are 6-0.
I can’t quit thinking about the 13-3 season where we won a bunch of games by the skin of our teeth, just like we have won the last three games, and that worries me, BUT, this team has not played anywhere near their ability this year. We know the team is better than the last three last minute games. We will use the next week and a half to study our shortcomings; make some revisions or changes and come out playing a good game against the Iggles. Then we’ll re-evaluate.
I think we will see what this team can do one game at a time. All we want is to see this team get to and WIN the dayem Super Bowl. The, just maybe the media would put us up there with the Skaints. ;)

Sportaree

October 17th, 2012
9:19 pm

SW
This is from a card we got for a friend that lost her husband Sunday. I wanted to share it with you.
Love lives on forever
in each memory
and each thought
Of those
who’ve shared our lives
and all the happiness
they’ve brought.

Love lives on forever
It will never fade away
For, in our hearts,
our loved ones
are with us every day

DePlane

October 17th, 2012
9:20 pm

MB…you got it right…it ain’t that easy!! Any Given Sunday. I’m not taking anything for granted that’s for sure…all the more reason to enjoy…..6 and Zero!!

DePlane

October 17th, 2012
9:22 pm

Amen to that Sportaree….

falcon21

October 17th, 2012
9:27 pm

Not dogging Mike Smith here but it is hard to figure out why we cannot dominate a team that we are supposed to. Poor game planning, too easy on the players during the week of practice before? I understand close games against reasonably good teams but damn, we struggle against everyone. Thoughts anyone?

falcon21

October 17th, 2012
9:32 pm

That is a fact Sportaree, thank you for sharing it with us.

Big Ray

October 17th, 2012
10:35 pm

DePlane ,

Thanks, bro!

Dhunt ,

Please don’t get me wrong. I think you’re on target on much of what you said about Biermann and his sack stats. He has NOT given us enough evidence to assure that he’d be successful at a LB position. I just don’t think that he can with the way that our defense is set up, especially personnel-wise.

I played the game at the LB and then interior DL positions…doesn’t make me an expert. You might want to defer to Big Lou who played there longer, and knows more about it than I do, I suspect.

That said, I have studied it due to interest and I feel that while our DTs haven’t played badly, they are by no means able to dominate in most games, if any.

Domination isn’t necessarily determined by measuring sack numbers or even tackles. It has more to do with creating problems or winning line of scrimmage battles. Key example include:

1) Commanding double teams.

2) Making plays in the backfield frequently, not just against teams with weaker interior OL players.

3) Making opposting teams/offenses/coaches gameplan for you.

Corey Peters was on that road prior to his injury. In fact, he made more plays at the DT position last year and the one before than even Babs. And Babs is clearly our best guy this year, but he doesn’t compare favorably to the better DTs in the game. He’s a penetrating DT, not a guy who stacks the line by himself and assures that you are NOT going to run through gaps on one side of the Center, you will have to go to the outside or go to the other side altogether.

We need a DT that does that. Guys like this make DEs and LBs so much more effective.

Matty Bicep

October 17th, 2012
10:42 pm

21, Newton? McFadden, rg3? Don’t say we have more talent. You underestimate our opponents, but I am sure Smitty dont.

Big Ray

October 18th, 2012
12:03 am

And now to answer the questions ….

Heh, if you think I tore up a keyboard just yapping about the DL…I got one for ya…. :roll: :lol:

1) My confidence level isn’t shot by any means. This team has issues. Which team doesn’t? I would/will be more concerned if we are playing like this a game or two after the bye week. We might even be a bit “rusty” or “jittery” after the by week, but that better not last more than a quarter…if that long. If we play like we don’t know what the F we are doing in the next game or so…then my confidence level will have issues. Until then, hard to have confidence problems when the team has yet to lose, even if they didn’t earn their last win.

2) Here is where I’m going to get snappish…so be warned .

It seems to me that you have to have more than one bad day to even be concerned about a trend. This last game against Oakland was Ryan’s only truly “bad” game. In the other five games, Ryan’s TDs outweighed/outnumbered his INTs.

Yes, Ryan absolutely has issues. Locking onto WRs too hard, telegraphing his next move, holding the ball a little too long sometimes, missing the wide open guy, etc. All of these problems are fixable. In fact, Ryan doesn’t have any “unfixable” issues…unlike some other QBs. However, we seem to either ignore or otherwise not acknowledge substantial surrounding circumstances, such as:

a) Pressure. Look folks, you cannot clamor up and down for our defensive front to create pressure on opposing QBs, KNOWING that doing so causes a QB to make mistakes or get completely out of rhythm…. and then all but ignore that the VERY SAME THING happens when our QB gets pressured too much. It’s like some of us don’t want to either discredit our OL or credit the opposing defense. And I’m sorry, but there isn’t a correct play call that will guarantee that lack of protection can be overcome on a given play. You can run screens all you want, they don’t work if blockers aren’t effective. You can dump off to the RB all you want, doesn’t work if the QB is trying to avoid getting his head taken off. Example is one of those picks Ryan threw. He had the open man, he lined up the throw…he got hit right as he let the ball go…the result was an INT. Now you can sit there and say he should have taken the sack…but if he did, you’d also say he held the ball too damn long. You can’t have it both f@cking ways. A star QB is going to try and make the play he knows he can make, not hold the ball and take a sack.

b) Progression. Unless you know the order in which the progression goes in each play, then how can you claim that Ryan ignored or missed the open WR? How do you know that the “open” guy was the 1st or 2nd guy in the progressin of a play? What if said guy was the 3rd, 4th, or 5th option? And guess what? When you don’t have time to throw (which Ryan didn’t against Carolina very much, and didn’t against Oakland), you DON’T HAVE TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL OF YOUR PROGRESSIONS!!!!! Guess what else that means? You have a choice…get sacked, throw the ball away, or try to make a play with wherever you progression stopped…because you only had a second or maybe even less than that (or only slightly more than that) to make a decision.

So when the protection is bad AND you have guys dropping the ball, it’s gonna be hard to hit that open guy or get into any sort of rhythm.

Take a look at Ryan’s numbers through six games and then take a look at the numbers Aaron Rodgers has put up. Now take that “trending argument” and tell me which guy a person should be more concerned about. Take into account that Rodgers has had arguably worse protection than Ryan has had…through more games at that. And Rodgers is bonafide “Elite”…no seriously, go take a look.

4) Abe deserves to be in the Falcons ring of honor, I think. However, the pace he can keep during this season isn’t exactly a “pace”, per se. Abe is not what he once was…and we even have him on a snap count. And, though he has good speed and technique, Abe gets held more than a cold beer at a hot party.

He will continue to do what he does – be very solid against the run, be spectacular against teams with weak pass protection on his side, and not do a whole lot pass rush-wise against teams with solid pass blocking. And he’s still our best pass rusher. But more on that later.

5) To this day I am curious as to exactly how Reynolds beat out Konz for the job at RG. And I am just TIRED of Clabo and his bum hip or whatever the excuse is now. My starting five would be McClure, Baker, Blalock, Konz (RG) and Reynolds (RT). Just give it a whirl, I say. You can always change it during the game if it’s disastrous.

I want to see the massive Holmes out there, but I also think its wiser to try that next season.

6) Others have mentioned this. We either need to trade for a RB who has true speed, or draft one. Either way works for me, just let it be a smart deal.

I like JaQuizz Rodgers. He’s shifty, elusive, and quite tough. Still needs to work on consistent pass catching. I do like him, and I want him on this roster. That said, he does not have that game-breaking, homerun threat speed. If he did, we’d have seen it already. It’s not there. Antone Smith…not sure what the problem is, but dude just doesn’t get the burn. And this is under two different OCs, so I’m less inclined to think the problem is with coaching. Maybe Smith doesn’t pick up protection coverages well or something. And while he does have speed, I haven’t seen that consistent homerun threat from him either.

We need somebody else. A guy who reliably catches out of the backfield. Explodes to the hole. Adjusts well and makes something out of nothing…even when it’s at the line of scrimmage (something Turner and Quizz don’t seem to have enough of). A guy who absolutely GASHES defenses. And we need that next season. Draft a guy or trade for him. And then commit to developing and using him.

7) I think the DT play is adequate to the point of solid for what we have. We have a group of guys who peak out at 304 lbs. None of them can command a double team, regardless of the opponent. Two can penetrate on a consistent basis – Peters and Babs. Walker stacks well and can penetrate often enough, but is more of a stopper than a guy who pushes the pocket.

In fact, I think our run defense is better when Walker is in the game, because he is big enough to hold his spot and help his side of the defense, allowing LBs and DEs to make plays at times. But either he doesn’t do it enough, or he doesn’t play enough to do it enough. Take your pick.

If you ask me, Travian Robertson is our best bet in the long run, if we’re going to continue to go with “smaller” DTs. By that, I mean guys under the 310+ range. Robertson is “for real” strong and came into to the NFL at 6′4″ and 304. He has the frame to put on more…could probably play just as quick and just as hard at 310-315…maybe even 320. Pair him with a healthy Peters and we could be looking at a strong interior if we keep a 4-3 defense.

But either way, we need more size/strength at the position. Especially if we run a 3-4. It will help our DEs, and it will help our LBs. Believe that.

8 ) Nolan was smart enough to see that our defense would be more effective against the predominant passing games of today by going with just two LBs on most plays, and using 5 DBs. Does it hurt us in defending the run? Yes….it does. And I must point back…again…at he interior of our DL. Look, if we’re stronger there, then we have less of an issue. Our DBs are hard hitters and like to come up and support against the run.

Dent played 100% of the snaps in the last game. He had 8 tackles, which was pretty solid. Still struggles in pass coverage, but I don’t think we should be surprised by that at all. He needs seasoning. However, things are scary after that. Mike Peterson is clearly at the end of his career. Robert James looked good in preseason…but we seem to have forgotten about him.

When Nicholas and Spoon are in the game, we are able to do a lot of things and even stop a lot of the gashing that teams do against us when we can’t push the middle of the line.

9) Playcalling is an issue. Of course, we can expect that to a degree. Some of this is totally unexplainable, like throwing to Hawley not once but twice in a game. WTF that was about is beyond me. I think I know what they were trying to do, but it was crazy. However, Koetter has only been working with these guys for months. He doesn’t even know what all will work against which team, and there is more for him to learn.

But playcalling is neither the main issue nor the only issue. Part of the issue is knowing when to use the no huddle and when not to. Even now, we are finding that we use it almost too late, too many times. It’s like we are expecting this suddenly sorry pass protection to stiffen up at any moment…but it’s the same damn guys from last season, as D3 explained. It was also the same last year – protection was better when the no huddle was used. If scoring is an issue like it was against Oakland, clearly we need to figure out that we need to use it quicker, more often, and to score more frequently. Then we can bandy about a bit with simple OC-led play calling.

The other issue, and the biggest one is execution. Aside from miserable pass protection, there is the dropped passes. Too many times we blame play-calling when..if the guy would catch the damn ball, the play would be made. Or, a WR zigs when he should have zagged, doesn’t come back to the ball…whatever it is, it affects the offense. Too many times we’ve watched a drive stall because of a drop. But all we can think of is the failed plays that surrounded THAT failure. If you can’t execute, you can’t call certain plays because you can’t set the defense up for something they don’t expect. Why? Because you forced yourself into a 3rd and long and they KNOW what your options are now…

10) HD has to get the ball more. I’m not saying target him 5 more times per game or something like that. But he has got to get the ball more, especially in screens. He’s fast, shifty, and elusive. And nobody will be looking to cover him with the perfect bait in Julio or Roddy. That’s not the only reason to involve him more, though. The next reason has to do with the only-too-near future…

11) I believe we are just about well and truly screwed when it comes to the TE position. It will be difficult to find someone with even HALF of Gonzalez’s talent and skill. It’s all but impossible anyway, because TG is very possibly the best TE to play the game. So you aren’t going to replace a legend.

However, the Falcons need not do that. What they have been needing to do is find some young pass-catching talent that can stretch defenses in ways that are downright painful. Find another Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernandez, Rob Gronkowski, etc. Find a guy who is as tall or taller than most LBs, but posseses speed that is more akin to a WR than a blocker.

And therein lies the problem. The Falcons have come into contact with guys of this kind of potential, and they seem far more interested in blocking skills than they do pass-catching skills. It makes no damn sense, to be honest, because we use TG SO MUCH, and it’s clear that he is downright integral to our offense. Hell, our QB needs TG’s ability and uses him as a security blanket all the time. Why would we not be looking for a replacement of some sort??!!

No, instead we toss aside the Chase Coffmans of the world, ignore the Lamark Browns and other speedster-capable pass catching big bodies…and we cling to the blockers like Tommy Gallarda. Michael Palmer has some potential, but is he a credible threat to defenses? If he is, we would not know, now would we?

My point isn’t that we can’t find talent, it’s that we refuse to commit to developing it. News Flash – Tony G wasn’t always a good blocker in the NFL. He had to learn. What separates him from the crowd has always been what he could do as a receiving target.

I don’t know what is wrong with our brass, but they just don’t seem to get it. And unless we are just happy with using a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets which will include a significantly heavier dose of Harry Douglas, our passing game is about to regress badly once TG retires. Seriously. I mean think about it…more teams will employ more DBs as time goes on. And whereas they struggled with covering TG as well as JJ and Roddy, now they would only have to contend with our two outside threats…and we would HAVE to run with a slot WR more often. Guess what? Slot receivers do NOT block the way TEs can. This affects more than just pass protectin, it also affects the run game.

12) This is a two part issue.

a) Simply recall what Mike Nolan was quotes as saying not long after he joined the Falcons organization. He said that all of our DEs would be linebackers in his scheme if he was running a 3-4 here. That pretty much sums it up. It’s not like teams can’t run DEs that weigh anywhere from 255 to 275 lbs. Hey, the Giants do it all the time. But that brings me to a second point, which I have already covered a LOT.

b) Are our DEs really that bad? I have no idea what happened to Sid the Kid, but he doesn’t play now. Cliff Matthews doesn’t play either. The guys who get burn are those who can stack the edge against the run and be effective in that way. They would be Abe, Edwards, and the Bier Truck. Of the three, only Abe is a bonafide pass-rushing DE.

Now look at the NY Giants and understand something – they run a 4-3 with bigger DTs. Their lightest guy is 299 lbs, and he doesn’t play as much as the other guys do. They run mostly with bigger boys like Chris Canty (injured but returning. Dude is 6′7 and 317lbs), Linval Joseph (6′4″ 323 lbs), Shaun Rogers (6′4″ 350 lbs), and Marvin Austin (6′2″ 312 lbs). The other two guys (Markus Kuhn 6′3″ 299 lbs and Rocky Bernard 6′2″ 301 lbs) are their LIGHTWEIGHTS.

My point – we may have issues developing DEs, but there is an undeniable link to the effectiveness of our DEs and the capabilities of our DTs. We have smaller, lighter-weight DTs. Those kinds of guys will always have trouble pushing the pocket and wrestling with the myriad of 315-335 lb behemoths on the other side of the line. But when you have guys on your interior DL that are above the 310 lb threshold, you have a MUCH better shot at making those big OL players focus and/or help each other to engage them…leaving DEs to win battles on the outside with their speed and/or technique.

If you CAN’T push the pocket from the middle, your outside rushers are at a disadvantage.

This also explains Abe’s inability to come up big in tougher games, to some degree. He has to work harder, and has to also do it pretty much alone.

13) I’m happy to be 6-0. It’s a milestone, all milestones should be recognized.

At the same time, there is quite a bit of room for improvement. Here’s a counter-question for all of us, though it may trend more towards those who might feel far more anxious about the future.

If execution was better, would we be as worried about play-calling and things like that? I’ll go ahead and say that I rather doubt it. Catch a few more passes, wrap up on a few more tackle opportunities, make a few more blocks…and the complexion changes. Of course, one could make similar arguments about play calls and things of that nature. Might be a moot argument, I don’t know. But I do know that if you make the play, it’s hard to question the call…

I’ll be more anxious if we are having very similar issues in games 7 and 8 as we were in games 4 and 6.

Big Ray

October 18th, 2012
12:08 am

And now I need a new keyboard.

GREAT stuff by Paddy O . Hit the nail on the head and didn’t need 40 million paragraphs to do it. Unlike me…. :roll:

Slant Pattern

October 18th, 2012
1:11 am

“We need somebody else. A guy who reliably catches out of the backfield. Explodes to the hole. Adjusts well and makes something out of nothing…” – BR

Late night buddy, found this ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWeRthcQxyc&feature=related ) which is killing my sleep schedule but well worth it. Prolly not your style, but for those that understand, that is something pretty special. You have once again brought up alot of great points, its too late to get into great detail with them all but I’ll respond to this one. Some iguana lovin’ bastard really wanted a guy in this draft that few if any agreed with. That guy is on the Rams now and in all fairness we didn’t have a chance to get him without moving up which even I prolly wouldnt have done. My question is how did that iguana guy know that we needed that guy long long ago and our brass didn’t? That could seem ego driven but the reality is that one just wonders how a by all acounts rank amateur can envision what we are currently going thru by just watching youtube videos of decade old college films, but yet the string pullers cannot. Others realized this too and made suggestions for scat backs as well. So many things we are currently going thru were called out long ago and not just by that a-hole. You bring this up regarding other positions like TE in other parts of your novel that we can go over tommorrow. It does make one wonder for sure.

Slant Pattern

October 18th, 2012
1:12 am

Late Night Blog Snack Check

“We need somebody else. A guy who reliably catches out of the backfield. Explodes to the hole. Adjusts well and makes something out of nothing…” – BR

Late night buddy, found this ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWeRthcQxyc&feature=related ) which is killing my sleep schedule but well worth it. Prolly not your style, but for those that understand, that is something pretty special. You have once again brought up alot of great points, its too late to get into great detail with them all but I’ll respond to this one. Some iguana lovin’ bastard really wanted a guy in this draft that few if any agreed with. That guy is on the Rams now and in all fairness we didn’t have a chance to get him without moving up which even I prolly wouldnt have done. My question is how did that iguana guy know that we needed that guy long long ago and our brass didn’t? That could seem ego driven but the reality is that one just wonders how a by all acounts rank amateur can envision what we are currently going thru by just watching youtube videos of decade old college films, but yet the string pullers cannot. Others realized this too and made suggestions for scat backs as well. So many things we are currently going thru were called out long ago and not just by that a-hole. You bring this up regarding other positions like TE in other parts of your novel that we can go over tommorrow. It does make one wonder for sure.

Slant Pattern

October 18th, 2012
1:12 am

Sorry BR, tried to respond. The blog monster has the late night munchies.

Wings

October 18th, 2012
7:14 am

JB Falcon – “I can’t quit thinking about the 13-3 season where we won a bunch of games by the skin of our teeth, just like we have won the last three games, and that worries me, BUT, this team has not played anywhere near their ability this year.”

The next 3-4 games are similar to the big games and going to the playoffs in 2010, and we should see an indication of the potential of the team.

Paddy O

October 18th, 2012
10:00 am

BR – thanks – I liked the V8/transmission analogy brought by BL – however, my analysis is nowhere as thorough as yours – I don’t like typing that much!

SG

October 18th, 2012
10:02 am

Asante should like this from this morning’s Philly Inquirer: “Eagles’ Reid lucky he’s not held to his own standards.” http://ow.ly/ezPWf

Paddy O

October 18th, 2012
10:03 am

I still don’t think we are utlizing Quizz property – for a small guy, he has a ton of blocking heart – but why use him like that? I still think we should use turner as our FB, as slow as he is. What we really want is Sproles, or Reggie Bush, or CJ Spiller – what I used to call our Dave Meggett guy. I think Snelling could take that roll. But, we’ve never appreciated him. He won that Raven’s game.

Paddy O

October 18th, 2012
10:05 am

Plus, we are still not a WCO as typically envisioned. I still think hiring Knapp back would pay good dividends – but, Welcome Back is still getting his feet wet.

Big Lou

October 18th, 2012
10:27 am

Big Ray

The problem with changing the Oline, even if it’s for a series, against a team like the Eagles is that they have a defensive line that has the ability sometimes to dominate a game. That one little test can cost Matt Ryan his year or career with a brutal hit. If you are going to make huge changes to an offensive line, I would do it against a team with a weaker line play to give a chance for the newer Oline to develope real-game cohesiveness.

Great posts, by the way. My eyes hurt from reading so much. Lol

D3

October 18th, 2012
10:52 am

WR, SP — Posts are out!

D3

October 18th, 2012
10:59 am

And therein lies the problem. The Falcons have come into contact with guys of this kind of potential, and they seem far more interested in blocking skills than they do pass-catching skills. It makes no damn sense, to be honest, because we use TG SO MUCH, and it’s clear that he is downright integral to our offense. Hell, our QB needs TG’s ability and uses him as a security blanket all the time. Why would we not be looking for a replacement of some sort??!!

No, instead we toss aside the Chase Coffmans of the world, ignore the Lamark Browns and other speedster-capable pass catching big bodies…and we cling to the blockers like Tommy Gallarda. Michael Palmer has some potential, but is he a credible threat to defenses? If he is, we would not know, now would we?

My point isn’t that we can’t find talent, it’s that we refuse to commit to developing it. News Flash – Tony G wasn’t always a good blocker in the NFL. He had to learn. What separates him from the crowd has always been what he could do as a receiving target. — Big Ray

HERE! HERE! That was exactly the point I was trying to make when Tommy Gallarda’s fanboy started inferring I was d@mn dumb or something for thinking that the TE position was bare when TG leaves. My main point is that Dimitroff and Co. have not been able to develop ANY legitimate TE over a 5 year period other than Palmer. It seems that they simply go, “hey we’ll just sign a bunch of UDFA’s every year, rotate them out, and hope we snag the next Tony Gonzalez.” You couldn’t spend one draft pick of significance on a d@mn TE? A 5th or 6th?

Matty Bicep

October 18th, 2012
11:03 am

I am a little disappointed that Konz has not been able to crack the Oline….Agree on Quizz, but he HAS to catch that screen pass. If he could show consistent hands, i would like to see him in the slot like a wes welker, see him has a check down guy who can make people miss.

I think HD is overrated in the cage, other than making a play in the pre-season last year, I cant think of him doing anything special. He is on the field, so Ryan can go to him if he wants, but something is lacking, I think he might struggle with separation.

Hamad Meander

October 18th, 2012
11:31 am

SW – you and your family are in our thoughts and prayers. We are sorry for your loss.

Coop

October 18th, 2012
11:52 am

I am a little disappointed that Konz has not been able to crack the Oline – MB

I’m dissapointed the coaches REFUSE to put Konz in the lineup.

As for Quizz, I like him and think he is best out of the backfield. Agree on dropped screens, However this is a new concept our coaches decided to implement this year. According to some of the coaches on the talk shows, screens are fairly difficult to execute. It take near perfect timing from several members of the O.

I don’t agree with him in the slot. I am a HD fan. He has not been decidely explosive, but neither has Quizz. I think HD has more speed and is therefore more of a threat. I think more crossing routes would help HD and MR2. We will never have a Wes Welker type, cause we rarely run the type of routes he runs in NE.

LRD

October 18th, 2012
11:53 am

Seminole… just saw the news.. and my deepest sympathy to you and your family. May your angel find peace with The Host of Angels.

Unca' Bob

October 18th, 2012
12:30 pm

Big Ray,

I read a while back TD stating that the TE of our futher was already on our roster. M Palmer. We haven’t seen much of him because TG is still with us and very usefull and productive. I wouldn’t sit TG for Palmer either.lol

waynester

October 18th, 2012
12:42 pm

HCMS likes to dance with the ones who brung him to the dance, guys he trusts in the heat of battle. Our coordinators and position coaches see these guys every day around the facility, in the weight room, training room, practice fields, etc. If one of the young guys is outworking and out-practicing a vet–he’ll get more snaps…that’s what we drafted them for. Most of them just aren’t ready to supplant a starter due to lack of technique or consistency. We’d better hope our front line guys stay healthy while the young guys learn, since we’ll probably be forced to play some of them as the weeks roll on and attrition occurs….

Coop

October 18th, 2012
12:55 pm

I’m not concerned about TE yet. TG is obviously great. Though he’s said he’ll retire, he may decide to go another round. Moreover, I give TD grief about some of his draft picks and the coaches for their development, but the front office has shown it is not afraid to go out and get guys.

We signed Turner, Edwards, and Robinson. Traded for TG and Samuel. Moved up to grab Baker and JJ.

They probably missed on Baker and Edwards,but my point is that they don’t just use the draft. TD is a whealer and a dealer. So if T retires AND Palmer isn’t the guy, maybe we grab a TE in FA or trade.

I se us getting a new feature RB, TE, and DE next year. Could be any method mentioned above.

More concerning to me is the development of Sidbury, Johnson, Jackson, Hawley, and now Matthews, Massaquoi, and Konz. Is it me, or do we draft a ton of Linemen just to sit on the bench? Since TD and Smitty came in, only Peters, Jerry, Walker, and Kroy were drafted for DL and played any substantial minutes (and that may be generous for Walker… who should see a ton more time IMO).

As for the OL, Blalock, McClure, and Clabo (I think…) have all been on the line since 2008.

JB Falcon

October 18th, 2012
1:12 pm

And speaking of using our rookies, here’s this from Pat Y;

The Atlanta Falcons have gotten only 26 snaps out of their draft class. That’s No. 31 in the NFL (San Francisco’s rookies haven’t played any offensive or defensive snaps).

The Falcons are fond of saying that second-year receiver Julio Jones is part of this year’s draft class and that’s a valid point. But logic coming into the season would have said the Falcons would be getting a little more out of their rookies. Heck, I know a lot of readers out there thought third-round pick Lamar Holmes was going to win the starting job at left tackle. Guess what? Holmes has yet to play a down on offense.

The only two Atlanta rookies to play have been second-round guard Peter Konz (19 snaps) and seventh-round defensive tackle Travian Robertson (seven snaps).

Matty Bicep

October 18th, 2012
2:36 pm

I’m dissapointed the coaches REFUSE to put Konz in the lineup.

They have not refused to put him in the lineup, he has played 19 snaps. Have you studied every snap? My guess is Smitty, TD, our new line coach, and Welcome back, and Ryan have studied each and every one from a full field camera, and if he was doing everything he is suppose to do, and doing it better than whom he replaced, my guess is he would have cracked the starting lineup.

And I am not sure if it is the routes that get Welker open, or if it is his quickness combined with he and Brady’s mojo that makes them so productive….Quizz has quickness, would be interesting if he could pose the same matchup problems.

Matty Bicep

October 18th, 2012
3:03 pm

but the front office has shown it is not afraid to go out and get guys.

Agreed. more concerned about potential problems next week, not in 2013, or maybe even 2014.

Coop

October 18th, 2012
3:24 pm

I haven’t studied every snap just like you have no idea what Smitty, TD, or any of the personnel are doing or thinking either. It’s an opinion…

You opine tha Konz hasn’t been ABLE to get on the field. I opine the coaches haven’t developed him or given him a chance. Either way, I see it as a flaw that we spent a 2nd round pick on a guy that we REFUSE to use. And, 19 snaps on special teams, as a fullback, TE, or cheerleader don’t count in my book.

I’m not certain about Welker either. He does run different route patterns though. We very rarely implement crossing routes. I think “Slant Pattern” has covered this before. Regardless, HD is much quicker and faster than Quizz.

JB Falcon

October 18th, 2012
3:40 pm

Coop

October 18th, 2012
3:41 pm

From profootballfocus.com:

Atlanta – Three Performances of Note

Ryan Takes a Shelling

He may not have seen much more pressure than he is used to — pressured on 33.3% of his drop-backs against a season average of 30.5% — but when he was under pressure yesterday Ryan was under heavy pressure. He was hit or sacked 11 times by Raider defenders, and on 12 pass attempts under pressure he had a miniscule passer rating of 11.1. That stems from the fact he completed only four passes for 60 yards while throwing two interceptions. As good as Ryan’s season has been, he is still not comfortable under pressure in spite of taking some strides since last season. Under pressure his passer rating is dropping by more than 30 points, and his completion percentage drops by nearly 20%. Usually this means the Falcons’ offensive line must simply stand up to an opponents’ base pass rush, as Ryan is usually very efficient against the blitz. This week, however, Ryan was only comfortable with no pressure and no blitz. In an unusually poor performance against the blitz Ryan completed only six of 13 passes for 56 yards, with one interception for a passer rating of 26.4. If the Raiders hadn’t backed off and played such a soft prevent defense on the Falcons’ final drive, would the national media be throwing a microscope on Ryan’s performance in this game?

One-Man Wrecking Crew

The Falcons didn’t exert an exorbitant amount of pressure (pressure on 13 of 36 drop-backs) on Palmer in this game, but when they got there it was telling, and John Abraham (+7.4) led the charge with three sacks. His third was merely a case of touching down an already fallen Palmer, but his first two were telling examples of his ability to dominate either of the Raiders’ offensive tackles. In the first quarter he ripped to the inside of RT Willie Smith to almost immediately sack Palmer at the top of his drop-back, which put the Raiders into a long-yardage situation they didn’t risk seriously trying to convert. While in the third quarter, he tore to the outside of Veldheer to take down Palmer as he wound to throw, which forced a fumble that was returned to the Raiders’ 2-yard line by Ray Edwards. The Falcons may have failed to punch the ball into the end zone, but this got them back on level terms and Abraham had made his presence known on the game. In combination with another four pressures, drawn against four different Raiders, and a pair of holding penalties (one each drawn from the Raiders’ tackles) Abraham and Mike Nolan ensured that the Raiders could never scheme to tie down and take away his threat from just one spot on the defense.

Asante Samuel in a Nutshell

If you’d never come across Samuel before yesterday’s game then he showed, almost completely, the player that he has always been and still is. Equally adept at giving up big plays as making them, Samuel was as infuriating as he was game-breaking for the Falcons. He let up two long gains, including one when he tried to break on a short route that wasn’t even faked for, but made the pivotal play for the Falcons late in the fourth quarter. Without that pick-six, his trademark play jumping a route in front of him, the Falcons almost certainly would have lost this game (though who’s to say the Raiders wouldn’t have played soft with a touchdown lead had they finished that drive) and all that Samuel would have been remembered for from this game was the long gains allowed to Moore and Derek Hagan. The only thing Samuel didn’t provide in this game that we are used to after a shoddy start to the season, was a missed tackle — he missed six tackles in his first four games for Atlanta. Samuel has now gone consecutive weeks without a miss. That’s the first time since the middle of last season that he has managed that feat.

Game Notes

– The 10 quarterback hits recorded by the Raiders’ defense in this game nearly doubled their season total. In their first four games they recorded only 14. The two recorded by Philip Wheeler takes him to eight hits in his past four games.

– Atlanta’s expansive use of three wide packages ensured that Rolando McClain played a career-low 18 snaps — evenly split between run and pass defense.

– With 11 missed tackles (tied for a season high) in this game the Falcons have now missed 52 after six games. At this pace the Falcons are on course for 138 missed tackles this season, 31 more than they missed last season.

PFF Game Ball

The only Falcon pass rusher who appeared to show up in this game was John Abraham who inflicted on Jared Veldheer the Raider LT’s worst performance since his rookie season. Abraham’s contribution was pivotal in both run and pass game.

JJ

October 18th, 2012
4:55 pm

Coop, tks, great find. Thats the 2nd present you’ve given the cage, the first happend at 4:30am, ;) .

Love to see the stats from PFF to backup what we all saw. MR didnt have his best game but he also got drilled from the OL sh!ty blocking. MR is holding on to the ball a little longer this yr (maybe trusting the OL decent performance in first 3 games) vs last yr when hed chuck it out of bounds at first wiff of bakers gas. This yr Clabo has the stinky gas and its time to try another widebody at
RT.

HD, Thought cotter was going to use him more in quick slant passes (holla) or skinny post for his YAC abilities. Last yr (against NO ?) he had a beautiful 10 yd catch in stride that went for a 70 yd TD.

Turner (until 4th qt mop up duties) is done without a quality blocking fullback. But cotter still forces it, bet its not his choice. Witout a lead blocker, would like to see more snelling or quiz. They can at least cut once before performing a colonoscapy on our much deserved front line! :)

Coop

October 18th, 2012
5:05 pm

JJ – When your sitting atop the FFL heap, you have no choice but to drop good players to fill bye week holes. Best part is, he was my 4th best WR… :)

You also sparked another thought. Agree on the lack of FB hurting Turner. But why is it that we’re willing to try Polite, Snelling, and even Hawley at FB, but we can’t TRY Konz at OC or TRY Reynolds at RT or TRY Holmes at LT or TRY Kroy at LB? They must all suck…

JJ

October 18th, 2012
5:44 pm

Coop, enjoy the view my friend…it wont last long…lol, hope ur recovery is doing well.

. Love goes out for the Nixon Family in starting the healing thats very, very tough.. Lost my dad many decades ago and there is never a day I dont think about him. Actually had a convo (text) with Unca’Bob (tks buddy) that has helped n not my healing but more of my understanding. my dads role in military back in the 50’s. I have no military affiliation except my dad, sorry. If Id known 30 yrs ago ith the military friends Ive made on the cage, Id prob would have joined.

My dear friend Roddy, Rock and I are so sorry for the lost of your ANGEL! !!
Of course Ive been updated of her health over the last yr or so but it just seams so unfair when they leave us. HE has a greater calling for them and thats why HE called them home. I know my dad is playing golf everyday with his buddies up there and looking fwd to playing around with me again.

That (for me) gives me piece of mind. I will see him and Sarahb and many others in time.

Sorry cage, went off tagent…rezome local blogging….

JJ

October 18th, 2012
5:49 pm

ps- didnt prof read and dont care…got some keys that stick…no, redtube viewing only on tablet!!!

waynester

October 18th, 2012
6:30 pm

More than any other player group, the O-Linemen have to work well as a unit. Any personnel changes have a ripple effect. Our core group has been together for a while so the younger guys have to earn those jobs– if they can take them. Coach Hill may be reluctant to screw around with team chemistry unless one of the newbies is clearly outperforming a vet during the week….

JB FALCON

October 18th, 2012
7:10 pm

waynester, I agree with your 6:30 but I have to wonder why, if Clabo is hurt/underperforming/ hurting the team, why not give even Travian a couple of shots. Bigger, stronger, younger, with less experience. How much can cohesion does it take to have the guy next to you pushing his gay out of the way and helping you with yours?

falcon21

October 18th, 2012
7:40 pm

Ok, I will buy into the coaches not wanting to start a rookie on the O-line, that’s understandable but just how bad are these rookies if that they can’t beat out a couple of these guys? Atleast one of them should be ready, isn’t that the reason TD drafting them!

falcon21

October 18th, 2012
7:45 pm

Proof read and I still screw it up!

JB FALCON

October 18th, 2012
8:00 pm

21, same here.

Sportaree

October 18th, 2012
8:15 pm

falcon 21 and JB FALCON, No matter how hard we try we will never be prefect.

JJ

October 18th, 2012
8:16 pm

f21,since this issue with developing, coaching and actually using these draft picks has gone on since ‘08, …its of course MS. Cover your eyes BL n BM.

Doesnt mean we dont love MS but we have a bye and looking at faults we wish as fans our team would improve on!!!
at aAs a late OLdisciple (like d3) , pray they look at the tapes , look at the tapes!!!

WR

October 18th, 2012
8:16 pm

Whoa, now who’s atop the FFL Standings, miss being able to chop it up as much with you guys, especially still miss chopping it up with the former 1st lady of the cage, but its still fun.

Coop makes a good point about Konz, hard to comment beyond a 2nd rd pick not getting more action, especially if that’s where Ryan’s beat down is coming from, but we too have to consider, Clabo is less stout then Baker this year, and the entire line, can’t point a finger at this time just isn’t opening much running lanes for an RB. Its early in the season, good to know these flaws exist at 6-0 then to notice them at 0-6, especially considering there’s a new Offensive scheme, and new Defensive scheme being introduced. If the Falcons were 3-3 we would chalk it up to the new schemes, but there 6-0, and at times not all that impressive, actually statistically wise, they have taken a step back. In sum, that means they are adjusting to a new scheme, their learning and growing within those schemes, but somehow they have managed to go 6-0, I’m liking it.

D3

October 18th, 2012
8:39 pm

Love that media elite. This one coming from a frackin’ town that DOESN’T EVEN HAVE A GD FOOTBALL TEAM……………..

Parity has leveled the playing field all over the league. Underdogs were 12-2 against the spread in Week 6. The only undefeated team, Atlanta, barely beat one-win Carolina and Oakland

Who gives a F—! WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D3

October 18th, 2012
8:42 pm

WOW…………

– With 11 missed tackles (tied for a season high) in this game the Falcons have now missed 52 after six games. At this pace the Falcons are on course for 138 missed tackles this season, 31 more than they missed last season.

Thought Mike Nolan was supposed to fix this. Yikes.

Paddy O

October 18th, 2012
8:45 pm

one comment on our rookies, past and present: the Falcons (Mike Smith – a key, frequently overlooked element of SMITTY BALL) APPRENTICESHIP program. Makes it tough for rookies to get playing time. Even in blowouts.

Paddy O

October 18th, 2012
8:46 pm

even with back up QB’s in the game.

JB FALCON

October 18th, 2012
8:53 pm

No matter what we say or what we worry about, the FACT remains, the Falcons are SIX WINS AND ZERO LOSSES. The NFL doesn’t judge a team by “style”. At this point no other team in the entire NFL can match our record and statistics already say the the road to the SB will come through Atlanta. I don’t care how we get there and how we win each game. If we end up in the big one and there is 3 seconds on the clock, I will know that the Falcons have proven that they have the capability to win it, style doesn’t count.

Matty Bicep

October 18th, 2012
8:57 pm

I would have to think if Hill wanted to make some changes on the O line, Smitty would let him, especially if the guy was ourperfroming the vet in practice, weight room, and doing well in the class room. Same goes with Beerman at LB, if Nolan wanted him there.

DePlane

October 18th, 2012
9:10 pm

JB, if I’m not mistaken Travian is a DT right, not an o-line man?

JB FALCON

October 18th, 2012
9:37 pm

DePlane, big and strong is big and strong. If I were an NFL coach I would know the difference. I know that we have identified a weakness and FA’s and the draft are over. I grew up drag racing and when you get to the track, the saying was “you run what you brung”. Anything that will help me win, with what weapons I have, is what I will use.
Actually, I think we can win with what we have. I do appreciate your response to my blathering post, and believe that we have the best team, and more importantly, the best organization in the NFL.
I will wallow in my optimism and keep on hoping until I am proven wrong. The only defense of anything that I post in the cage is “That’s just the way I am.”

phil

October 18th, 2012
9:55 pm

Pretty good piece. I have my concerns, like we all do, but it sure is fun to be 6-0.

Obviously we have to shore up some stuff to go anywhere in January, but maybe this will be the year that we do? I sure hope so…

falcon21

October 18th, 2012
9:57 pm

Matty, Smith has been here since 2008 and not many rooks have had much of a chance to step up and play under him, other than Matt Ryan and Bosher, There may be a couple more but fact is the rookies are not living up to what we drafted them for. Smith or TD, take your pick. I agree with JB, we are 6 and 0 but we have a chance to make changes to make this team better during the bye week. I hope we are not 6 and 4 after game10.

Big Ray

October 18th, 2012
10:00 pm

SP ,

Oh, I remember the guy clamoring for Isaiah Pead…and the clamoring was on target…

Big Ray

October 18th, 2012
10:02 pm

Matty Bicep ,

What makes your claim of HD being overrated validated in any way is HD’s inability to catch the ball and make a move every single time he has the chance. I’ve seen a couple drops out of him this year where the ball was placed perfectly, and he just damn dropped it.

So yeah, he could be overrated. At the same time, I’ve seen him get separation in the slot just fine. But I don’t think he’s ever more than the 3rd or 4th read, and NO, I have no clue where he fits in Ryan’s progressions from play to play.

I do know this – if he doesn’t start catching those wide open passes, it won’t matter how much speed or elusiveness he has. He’ll soon be overtaken by some prospect. Like Drew Davis or somebody.

Big Ray

October 18th, 2012
10:05 pm

WOW…………

– With 11 missed tackles (tied for a season high) in this game the Falcons have now missed 52 after six games. At this pace the Falcons are on course for 138 missed tackles this season, 31 more than they missed last season.

Thought Mike Nolan was supposed to fix this. Yikes.

Execution. This is why Asante Samuel is so harsh on his grading of our defense. He’s right.

Unfortunately, we need more veterans to speak up. And guess where some of this is coming from? Veterans.

Look no further than Dunta Robinson. Love the licks he puts on guys, but not every “hit” is a tackle, now is it? I watched the Oakland game. I watched our guys “hit” McFadden several times…some of those hits he bounced off of.

Stop hitting…start TACKLING.

Nolan can only preach so much. These guys gotta get their heads on straight. If not, they will get their bells rung. A week from now.

Big Ray

October 18th, 2012
10:07 pm

Big Lou ,

You make a good point about Philly’s DL. I recall how they busted us up last season. I just cringe at the thought of the RG/RT combo of Garret Reynolds and Tyson “how can you be THAT big and yet THAT soft” Clabo against the Philly DL.

Big Ray

October 18th, 2012
10:08 pm

Unca Bob ,

As usual, you are right on the money, my friend. Wish you posted more, but you never waste a single word. Bravo…

falcon21

October 18th, 2012
10:22 pm

LOL Big Ray, UB has toasted me a couple of times and helped me change my ways!

Michael

October 18th, 2012
10:37 pm

D3 I am more concerned with the Offense as well. I think the Defense is doing well and hope that continues. The D has given up fewer points on avg in the second half than the first half of games, indicative of Nolan’s ability to make the necessary adjustments. We just have to cross our fingers for no further devastating injuries there.

As for the offense, sadly, the line play needs to improve. We finally get Baker playing at a decent level and now Clabo has deteriorated (though I think he is greatly injured and Smith is being tight about it as is his nature). Much as I hate to say it because I am a fan of his, perhaps it is time to yank McClure and give Konz a try at center. And like you, I have been screaming that they need to get Douglas more involved! He has speed and needs to be targeted more if for no other reason than to force opposing defenses to have to account for yet another receiving threat, thereby opening the run game up more.

I had not considered your thoughts on more speed at the RB position, but I agree, give Smith a chance to hit the hole faster as its obvious the line can’t keep it open for very long. And please don’t get me started on Snelling. This guy runs hard every time he touches the ball. What does the coaching staff have against this guy? Really! Or, let him serve as a lead blocker out of the backfield. He is an all purpose guy. Maybe the OC needs to watch old game film of the Joe Montana led 49ers when they involved Rathman in both the passing game as well as a lead blocker and runner without sacrificing the explosiveness of Rice and Taylor and Brent Jones downfield. It can be done.

Slant Pattern

October 18th, 2012
10:39 pm

“SP ,

Oh, I remember the guy clamoring for Isaiah Pead…and the clamoring was on target…” – BR

I don’t really give anyone a chance to forget now do I :) ? It kills me to think what we would look like with him around here. Not to be, but I still don’t understand not addressing the need at all. You and D3 are right about the tight ends. We got to get a threat faster than TG at some point. I’ve been watching the Niners/ Seachickens, pretty good game so far. Must say I’m jealous of teams with O-lines.

Big Lou

October 19th, 2012
1:40 am

Big Ray is correct about the defensive tackling and it just adds upon what I have been preaching: execution, EXECUTION!

Falcons lead the lead in dropped passes and miss tackling. That’s not a coaching issues; that’s a mental issue. Players need to step up and preform the game plan accordingly. I have a feeling that they will not be there next year if they don’t. Especially with el Jefe(A. Blank), the Sheriff(Nolan), and Deputy Dan(DK).

Coaching can only do so much:

Number one in penalties(not committed).
Top ten time of possession.

Falcon players just need to tweak their gameplay and focus up. Stop trying to be perfect/make the home run play and just do their jobs. Less mistakes will be made.

Unca' Bob

October 19th, 2012
5:46 am

Big Ray,

Thank you. Im not only flattered, I’m greatful.

falcon21,

The only time I have ever “toasted” you the word skoal was involved with the distinct sound of crystal ringing in the background.lol

JSS

October 19th, 2012
10:43 am

Don’t you guts want to hear all about me?

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
11:14 am

well, just a reminder that those of us not-pollyanna addicted may be taking some of our success for granted: remember, despite our huge success in 2008 and 2009, at that point the opposition should be highly game planning for our trends. Yet, what happens? in 2010, we kick everybody butt -although 2 wins were pure luck (a lot like 2012). In 2011, we really needed JJ to add a new stretch option. In 2012, despite play lackadasical in the last 3 games, we are 6-0 – and our opposing teams – after 4 long looks at MR2 and our offense – still have a really tough time containing him – especially in the 4th quarter. Why do I say this? Look at SF – last year Alex Smith looked like the 2nd coming of Joe M (a little hyperbole), but now that teams are game planning more effectively for SF – Smith & Harbaugh – success is not as easy. If we had signed Sproles 2 years ago, I think our offense would be absolutely unstoppable. As it is, if we reprogram Mike Turner to be our FB for Snelling or Quizz, I think we still have too many options. Granted, Mike Shanahan is top flight coach. But the Oakland game makes me nervous, despite the bye week benefit they had. I guess I’m just saying that as an overall team, TD, HCMS, MR2 and all of our players have demonstrated sustained excellence. I am taking it a little for granted – but, the first game we played so electric, I’m disappointed that we have not built off that. But, it is possible we have been marshalling our game plan innovativeness to shock & awe our tougher opponents on the schedule. I’d really enjoy knocking Mike Vick out of the game again.

Matty Bicep

October 19th, 2012
12:00 pm

Paddy, I take offense to the term “pure luck”? There are over 100 plays in a game, why focus on the obvious plays that effect outcome as being the product of luck, but ignore the rest?

For instance, in the Carolina game, JJ catches a critical ball and is OB by an inch. Then later in the quarter, before Cam throws the go ahead TD pass, we swat the ball out his hand on the pass rush, but Hartzog Carolina’s TE recovers it. What bad “luck” that a TE we cut happens to have the ball bounce feet, what are the odds? Then Cam tosses a harmless out and catches us in an all out blitz for a TD, bad luck again?

We hear enough about the “luck” crap from the media, but us fans who actually watch the entire games need to stop that talk. And Matty leading 19 4th quarter drives, thus give him the all time NFL record for winning drive conversions, passing Tom Brady, is hardly luck.

All the rest I agree with, every team has off the charts talent and adjusts to you. I don’t think we had any more talent than the last 3 teams we played. Cam? RG3? McFadden? I actually can argue we had LESS talent in key areas. It is all about finding a way to win.

I am not pollyanna, I just see the big picture.

DHunt

October 19th, 2012
12:14 pm

I see a lot of revisionist history going on up in here, like CMS not willing to play rooks. I positions where the vets were underperforming he has giving several rooks the opportunity. I’m just happy you don’t see a long line of Falcons castoffs going to other teams and becoming impact players which would be far more indicative of inability to assess or develop potential.

Got to co-sign again with Unc and PFF about the Falcons lack of execution being more of a problem than personnel or coaching. However I’d love to see a professional analysis of how our receivers are being used and performing (other than the focus on drops). It always seems like I can see other teams plays and routes, either in real time or slo-mo replay, and I rarely see a two or more receivers clustered up in the same area making it easier for the opposing defense. I also often see other teams using route combinations that are designed to get a specific player isolated in space or at least one on one. Seems like the Falcons receivers are either always running streaks, or they get a little credit for coming back to the ball. That’s not going to cut it if we really want to be more dynamic (notice I did not say explosive) in the passing game.

Wings

October 19th, 2012
12:25 pm

Paddy O ..pollyanna…. what about Carnac?

Unca' Bob

October 19th, 2012
12:27 pm

They always give drops in numbers and not in percentage. Why? Team A throws 100 passes and drops 15. Team B throws 20 passes and drops 5. Who drops the most passes?

Big Lou

October 19th, 2012
12:35 pm

Unca’ Bob

Nice try. But, a lot of teams throw more than the Falcons and still have less drops.

LRD

October 19th, 2012
1:08 pm

I am just hoping going into Philly , that Asante Picks Vick for Six. Asante is going to have a chip on shoulder bigger than usual, to show his old team and that hateful crowd what they are missing out on.
And that additional swagger is needed, as we havent exactly been stellar playing in Philly….
Since Philly jettisoned its D coordinator, and if we come in, beat up Vick and take the game down their throat, we set the tone for games against Cowgirls and the sAINTS

Unca' Bob

October 19th, 2012
1:51 pm

Big Lou,

I posed a question. Pure and simple.

Coop

October 19th, 2012
3:03 pm

DHunt – Cosign your comments on the passing routes. I’m not a professional, but the combinations do often seem to be fairly simple. I will say, they have improved this year, but I would like to see more crossing routes.

As for CMS playing rooks, I’ll stick by my assessment.

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
4:56 pm

Matty – the pure luck was referencing 2010 – the SF game and the NO game where their kicker missed a chip shot in OT.

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
4:58 pm

dhunt – that is the question I have – are we running dynamic, spread the field plays with our WR, or not? Tough to demonstrate.

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
5:01 pm

last year, I asked the guys who attend the games – where you can see the entire field the entire game – whether we ran innovative, complex & integrated WR routes, and the answer was no. So, the question remains. I still enjoy the fact that we somehow traded for Asante and Tony G. Very nice moves by our FO.

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
5:02 pm

matty – on the JJ out of bounds play, I consider that BAD luck! But, as stated, I realize JJ is still pretty much a rookie. Still, expect great things from him!

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
5:03 pm

However, I DO consider the Carolina game pure luck. No way that ball should have been fumbled back to us. But, sometimes . . . . .

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
5:11 pm

UB – is actually making an exceptionally valid point – if it simply off of quantity, and not % of passes thrown, it is a bogus stat.

Matty Bicep

October 19th, 2012
5:37 pm

Well, it was bad luck we did not recover the previous fumble.
It was bad luck we did not recover the last fumble
It was bad luck the ball got downed on the 1 foot line (Still not sure that was never reviewed, it looked like the guy might have touched the goal line) Oh yea, more bad luck.

But, in spite off that bad luck to offset the good luck of Cam dropping the ball, Roddy made a great play, and we made a good kick. We took advantage of a mistake, and overcame our own bad luck.

Unca' Bob

October 19th, 2012
6:14 pm

Paddy O,

That’s all it was ever meant to be. I never seem to catch me any luck.

JB FALCON

October 19th, 2012
6:33 pm

UB, great point. Why isn’t ESPN keeping up with the guys that played an entire career and NEVER dropped a pass (because they were never thrown one)

Unca' Bob

October 19th, 2012
6:53 pm

JB FALCON,

If I could explain that I would be a very rich ol’ man. Seems to be to their convenience…Just a thought.

DePlane

October 19th, 2012
7:04 pm

JB…I get it. I’m the eternal optimist myself. And big and strong is big and strong but converting Travian could be a little bit of a reach. I’d rather see a switch of Reynolds to RT if Clabo can’t go and Konz in his place at guard. I think Konz could learn a lot playing next to mud and listening to how he calls the game on the line. There is a reason duck is still at C. And I think it has to do with MR2 and his comfort with him as much as anything else. I wonder how ol’ Lamar is doing with his toe. Heck they’ve cross trained everyone else so make him a guard too.

Ultimately, I will be shocked if we see any changes on the line. We all know Smitty can be stubborn about a player. If he remains true to form we won’t see a shakeup of the line.

About that drag racing….I’ve been around a few tracks and enjoyed myself thoroughly. As a young man we used to go down to Stone Mt. Industrial park when it was just roads and watch the local muscle cars race railroad track to railroad track….until the police showed up. Back then they even sat and watched a couple of races before they broke it up. No tickets…just clear on out!

My old man sponsored some dragsters and we’d go up and watch em’ at commerce…in the hospitality suite right above the starting line. Sweet!

Unca' Bob

October 19th, 2012
7:10 pm

D3,

Did you get my email? Please respond.

DePlane

October 19th, 2012
7:22 pm

Since some of you are talking about luck…and how lucky we have been:

There is no such thing as luck.” – from “Star Wars”…haha!

But wait! From the guy with weird hair:

Everything in life is luck.” – Donald Trump

Really! Then how about:

The only sure thing about luck is that it will change.” – Wilson Mizner

Ok…so its gonna change! Then how about:

“All of us have bad luck and good luck. The man who persists through the bad luck — who keeps right on going — is the man who is there when the good luck comes — and is ready to receive it.” – Robert Collier

But really the truth is:

Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more you sweat, the luckier you get.” – Ray Kroc

And that:

“Good luck needs no explanation.” – Shirley Temple Black.

So it boils down to the fact that:

“The champion makes his own luck.” – Red Blaik.

The Atlanta Falcons have made their own luck.

JJ

October 19th, 2012
7:42 pm

DePlane, well done!

falcon21

October 19th, 2012
7:47 pm

I just wish we could have a little of that luck in the playoffs, it always seems whatever can go wrong does go wrong!

Matty Bicep

October 19th, 2012
7:54 pm

DePlane, correct, I would rather be lucky than good……And if we are going to measure drops as a % of passes, we should measure TD Passes, Picks, yards, etc as a percentage of passes too.

If we measure dropped passes as a percentage of total passes, the differences would be the 3rd digit after the decimal, just not too sexy. Got to remember, us cagers are not your average fan.

DePlane

October 19th, 2012
7:54 pm

Thanks JJ!

And F21 I hear ya! After all: An ounce of luck is worth a pound of gold” in the playoffs!

Matty Bicep

October 19th, 2012
7:55 pm

21, you got a point, maybe our 13-3 was correct, and our playoff losses are flukes. lol.

DePlane

October 19th, 2012
8:03 pm

MB, I would rather be lucky AND good!

As far as measuring drops as a %…statistics can be mis-guiding. The stock market proves that every day. Are they important? Sure. But some things cannot be measured in stats. Like the whether or not a team has the courage of a lion or the heart of a champion.

DePlane

October 19th, 2012
8:04 pm

But to be clear; you can certainly measure drops as a % and if you derive anything useful, use it.

JB FALCON

October 19th, 2012
8:15 pm

UB, I didn’t expect you to answer the question, I was just expounding on the point your were originally trying to make before BL tried to turn it into an arguemnt.
They should keep track of percentages instead of drops. Perfectly clear.

DePlane, I don’t have any idea how I could do any better than what the what’s being done with the Falcons. Some of my ideas and posts are not even concievable. I trust in the organization and have faith, and sometimes, or always, have to let the “other” thoughts creep in.

As far that the drag racing thing, you have to own the car, put every penny you have into it, and each race is like football whereas each race is like there is one second on the clock and it’s either win or go home. Balls to the wall. If the Falcons can learn that on every play we would be unbeatable.

Of course that would be impossible, or unbelievable, but “That’s just the way I am.”

JB FALCON

October 19th, 2012
8:28 pm

DePlane, love the luck posts. You make your own luck but you can call it whatever you like!

DePlane

October 19th, 2012
9:34 pm

Matty Bicep

October 19th, 2012
10:03 pm

But really, we yanked the ball out of Cams hand twice in the 4th quarter, and we did not recover either, both bounced right to the Panthers. Luck?

Then they pinned us on the 1 foot line with 40 seconds, boy, sure got lucky on that punt.

But our resolve and never giving up is a credit to our coaching staff.

Let the media say it was luck, screw them, but I don’t want to hear fans trying to discredit our wins.

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
10:31 pm

Nice convo on luck! De PLane has an excellent expose on it. I would agree – you make your own luck, if you believe you control your own destiny – if you think you are a victim of fate, luck controls you. Matty – I think you are starting to consider yourself as BL stated part of the brethren. BL does not yet feel a part of the brethren – which is too bad – he has a good perspective – for the most part. However, regarding the fluke – the first lost was pure “getting the feet wet” – no expectations, and not horrible disappointment – the 2008 team was WAY beyond their station; now, I thought the 2010 butt whooping by GB a fluke – but, I had nagging worries about our lack of adjustments – in game, and apparently in the 2nd game (bad game planning). The Giants loss made most reassess the conclusion that the GB game was a fluke – it is tough to have consecutive playoff horrific game plans. GB at least had an excuse – we played them tough the first time, and they learned (just like the Giants with the Patriots). Now, back to luck – you are right – the kick that got us on the 1 – a lot of luck for opposition – I do not think it was properly reviewed. Now, the fumble – not much luck there – typically, that type of play can go either way – NOW, against SF – where Roddy strips Clement if I recall and Dahl falls on the ball – that is exceptional “make your own” luck. Luck is a lot like obscenity- you know it when you see it. Finally, if you watched the Braves play off game – and I had a ringside seat – you know the Cardinals got lucky with an utterly BS umpire call on that “infield fly rule” – which is designed to protect the offense, not inept defensive players.

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
10:33 pm

Regarding drag racing – i’ve only done it once in Steel, Alabama – I’ve got a 2010 PCP R/T challenger – my friend had a RSS Camaro – we went up to try our luck. Got whooped all four races, but I did beat him off the line 50% of the time. Very intense.

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
10:36 pm

Any game that folks say boiled down to a single play can be potentially declared good or bad luck. Which is why most folks want their team to blow the doors off the competition – luck is fickle.

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
10:39 pm

Regarding the % of drops – if baseball can track BA, drop % is childs play. If Roddy is targeted 115 times, and has 15 drops, his drop % is 13%; now, if you are Mike Turner, and you only have 5 drops, but are only targeted 25 times, your drop % is 20%. Obviously, much worse. Hawley, targeted twice, 2 drops – 2 sound like a nice low number; but his % is a perfect 100. Dealing in just pure quantity, it appears Hawley is the best receiver.

Paddy O

October 19th, 2012
10:41 pm

Matty – I would measure picks by # of attempts; TD’s are much tougher – and an more widely acknowledged statistic – you play all season and have 30 TD’s – you had a decent year. 40+ – you’ve got an explosive offense. More picks than TD’s (or close)? you are Eli Manning.

Matty Bicep

October 19th, 2012
11:18 pm

Baseball BA is different in that you have enough attempts to get a “real” sample. When you have a guy targeted 5 times and he drops 2, that is about as statistically significant at a guy batting .1000 because he went 5 for 5. Statistically the sample is not meaningful.

Actually, a team can easily lead the league in TDs AND drops, especially if they have a QB who can really throw the ball down the field. In other words, the number of TDs or Drops as a percentage of total passes thrown is not enough to register a meaningful stat…like a guy who bats 1.000 who goes 5/5. So, if you want to measure catch percentages, you really have to measure types of passes, for it is easier to catch a 5 yard pass than a 45 yard one….My point, (if I have one), oh yea, sometimes you just gotta accept things as they are. WE DROP TOO MANY BALLS!

And for luck, the media never said the 6-10 falcons were “unlucky” even though you could point to 4 plays over the course of a season that would make them 10-6, so I will be dammed if I am going to say we are lucky now. We sucked before, and we are good now (not great, or elite) Your what your record says, and you are as good today as you play today. Just got to trust the process.

Matty Bicep

October 19th, 2012
11:42 pm

And yes Pad, I do feel I am part of the brethren. I do stretch it to challenge thought, and sometimes I am off base, but other times I think I provoke thought. If we all just agreed, it would get a little boring. But D3 did tell me I need to be sure to show respect, and if I do get belligerent, I apologize, I just like my thought to be provoked too. We are 6-0 for the first time in history, even if we go 0-10 going out, we still reached one more franchise milestone, all part of the process…and I ain’t putting any asterisks with it.

Paddy O

October 20th, 2012
12:27 am

I try to be objective and see other perspectives. IMHO, we have some exceptionally talented guys on our roster – I focus far more on offense – MR2 is near elite, Tony G is the best TE in the history of football; RW84 top 5 I’d say; JJ terrific potential – so, when we don’t play well, I blame coaching in general. Smitty now has a track record – and sadly, familiarity breeds contempt. But, when I think of us and say TB or the Rams – who both looked like they were up & comers in 2010 – or, even Vince Young – just because you start out on the path to sustained excellence does not mean you will stay there. Long term, Smitty has done an excellent job of keeping our team grounded. Back to drops – the drops, to me, and an indicator of WR quality – and is pretty easy to calculate. But, you can’t make that stat portable throughout the league simply by quoting the quantity – it needs context – such as a drop % – RW gets targeted a TON, so his drop #ers should be higher than say HD; so that is where the % is key. The Falcons leading the lead does not bother me too, too much – we have thrown a ton this year – plus, Hawley’s & Turners drops factor into that, and nobody in their right mind should be throwing to those guys much at all. The “distracted” player drops are the ones we need to clean up – and JJ has some catchable ball drops – at least 2 I can think of – but, then he has some eye popping receptions. He may run a little on the heels of his feet, which gets the eyeballs bouncing more. I also notice we appear to have decreased our down field tosses some. I like em – keeps the defense honest – but, you need decent O line protection. it is good to get different perspectives. I now am more cognizant of execution failures. but, I consider that part of the game; and would prefer to blow out our opponents even with some execution failures!!

Paddy O

October 20th, 2012
12:29 am

regarding the brethren – this is the best place to discuss all things Falcon. when I first started reading the AJC pro sports articles, they were painfully generic – what I call lobotomized parrot journalism. D3 writes an honest article about the teams play, and it is a pleasure to contemplate his angle and the other folks in the cage. I’m outta here – have a good weekend, folks!

Big Lou

October 20th, 2012
1:31 am

JB Falcon

How the heck was I trying to turn into argument? Percentages wouldn’t change anything. Drops are drops. Also, percentages doesn’t take into consideration when the drops happened, which usually were potential points.

Unca’ Bob

Come on now, you are smarter than the average blogger. You might not talk much, but you know the points of your posts. I’m just stating that there are some things you cannot look glass half full, and one of those are dropped passes.

Wings

October 20th, 2012
7:56 am

Big Lou not everything on this blog is a debate. JB and UB are trying to give you a few hints how to recognize.

Wings

October 20th, 2012
8:08 am

Definition of ANTAGONISM
opposition of a conflicting force, tendency, or principle

Synonyms: animosity, animus, enmity, antipathy, bad blood, bitterness, gall, grudge, hostility, jaundice, rancor

Big Lou

October 20th, 2012
10:32 am

Wings

That must be you. Because, every time you jump on here to say something to me… you are attacking and saying stupid crap. Do I have to remind you the previous two times that you chimed in against me and looked like a tool? Big Ray had to correct you on one(involved UB), and the other you didn’t get all the facts.

You assume that every post I make is for argument sakes, yet I have plenty of posts where I agree with a certain individuals(even the sarcastic and funny, SP) or do not even comment at all. Do you just jump in to throw wood into the fire when it involves me? So please, do yourself a favor and ignore my posts. I am going any where. I do not give a %^&* if you like me.

Big Lou

October 20th, 2012
10:35 am

Moving forward…

What do you guys think of our rivals this weekend?

I am taking the Panthers on an upset over the Cowboys.
Saints over the Bucs(but I am wishing for an upset).

D3

October 20th, 2012
11:48 am

Great Saturday Morn’ Cage Fam! — Well, I guess it’s technically closer to afternoon, but still. Finally a chance to catch up with you guys and rap a little about our Birds. I’ll take my own opinions on our questions………..

1) Simple Kickoff – where’s your confidence level after week 6?
Well, it’s obviously decent considering we’re 6-0. If we had this conversation after the San Diego game, than it would be sky-high, but 3 weeks of barely scraping by has shot it down pretty good. The Carolina game didn’t bother me that much. It was just one of those NFC South rivalry games that can come right down to the wire. Their backs were against the wall, were embarrassed on national TV, and gave us their best shot.

The Redskins game really doesn’t bother me that much and actually still doesn’t. We held RG3 completely in check, and that says a whole lot right now after seeing what he did to the Vikes last week. It was a road win against an up and coming team with a very talented QB. The offense just seemed to be having one of those days and I was OK with that because we did what we needed to, to win the game.

And then we come to the Raiders game. At first I wanted to say, “it’s OK………” and give a littany of excuses. The Raiders were on bye and I really do think their offense is more talented than their record indicates, but then we come to our offense.

Our offensive line is the EXACT SAME as the trainwreck that occurred last year. We all said all the way back to even mini-camp that if we trot out this same ol’ BS with no changes whatsoever. Matt Ryan was 12 for 15 with his 3 misses being interceptions I believe (something I read somewhere else). But he still looked off and misfired on many throws, not just the one where he was hit. I remember an open Julio (I think) in the endzone when we had to settle for a FG. I think this is a product of several things and the drops may not be the whole story, but they sure as the hell are adding up (this was a problem last year as well), but honestly I think it comes down to the running game as much as anything.

We all knew that ol’ Smitty would be riding Turner one more time (and he’s technically under contract through 2013, which is an error some think he’s done after this year). We all had questions about whether he would fit in this new offense and that question was mostly answered in preseason. I’m not saying that Quizz and Snelling are the future and can be Pro Bowlers behind this OL, but I truly believe that Turner is simply done. It really is nothing against him whatsoever, just like all the other Falcons who hit the wall, but it’s a business, not a college or high school team. He’s not getting production, not hitting the hole hard, he’s sure as the hell not elusive, rarely breaks tackles, and is just generally slow.

Again, I’m not trying to beat down on the man, because Lord knows how terrible our OL is. You don’t pay a feature running back $7.5 million a year (due $8 mill next year) to only be good in the 4th quarter. I know got way off on the offensive woes tangent, but in general, I’m “pretty” confident right now. It’s fantastic to be 6-0, you really have to savor every single NFL victory. But at the same time, if we don’t get some major things fixed, we could be looking at 1-2 or maybe even 0-3 really quickly over the next few weeks. Really, we’ve beaten the entire AFC West, Redskins, and Panthers. As much as I want to say, “we’ll be OK,” I keep getting woken up by those two playoff nightmares “The Debacle in the Dome” and the “Meltdown in the Meadowlands.” We go up and beat Philly (anyway possible), and my confidence will be right back to the top.

D3

October 20th, 2012
1:18 pm

BL — Is there any chance for all 4 teams to lose? Those are 4 of my most hated teams in the NFL. Throw in Philly and the Bears and you got my top 6 most hated. In all seriousness, I would love it if the Bucs beat the sAINTS, but they’ll probably win this game in their “us against the world” BS after they beat SD. I’d rather the Cowgirls go ahead and beat the Panthers and just bury their season before it gets started, but I also really love seeing the Cowgirls lose.

2) Are the come-from-behind wins still a strength or are they now a weakness?

Finding ways to win and coming from behind in the last few minutes can’t help but build confidence, character, and mettle. I do hope that will pay dividends later in the year, but at the same time, we are putting ourselves in this position too many times and can easily avoid this. A win’s a win’s a win. Period. But we haven’t exactly played the best of our schedule just yet.

Big Lou

October 20th, 2012
2:20 pm

D3

I wouldn’t mind if they all tied. Lol

As for the coming behind and winning, we will see how good this team really is with the upcoming schedule:

Eagles
Cowboys
Saints
Giants

Unca' Bob

October 20th, 2012
4:24 pm

For a dome team our two best wins have come on the road. So much for home team advantage.

JJ

October 20th, 2012
5:07 pm

UB, Good point, also wondering if some of the players have been a little over confident when they play weaker opponents…buying into the media hype after the first 3 games? Hopefully the oakland game took care of that, if it even existed.

Unca' Bob

October 20th, 2012
5:36 pm

JJ,

I don’t know, but I would hope not. And I do hope it has been put behind us.

JJ

October 20th, 2012
6:01 pm

UB, Have never had any animosity to SC until Spurrier…hate that coach with a passion due to his fla days. One of the greatest college coaches of all time but the cockiest sob of ALL coaches!!!

The only college coach I dislike as much as the aints!!!

JB FALCON

October 20th, 2012
6:21 pm

BL. I’d love to see Freeman outgun Brees and the Panthers mess up the Boys’ record.

JB FALCON

October 20th, 2012
9:03 pm

Well, I watched SC kick the Dawgs butt last week and I saw the Gators kick SC’s butt today. I am now watching teh Dawgs struggling against KY. Am I supposed to look forward to seeing the Dawgs kicj the Gators butt next week.
I have more optimism on the Falcons breaking Vick’s leg.

JB FALCON

October 20th, 2012
9:19 pm

The more I watch this GA game the more I am glad the NFL didn’t let the college refs fill in. The DAwgs are playing bad enough and the refs are going to make sure they keep calling indivisble plays. Even when they replay it, the penalty is not there.

Wabe

October 20th, 2012
10:02 pm

No UGA fan here, but seriously, what does it say about Mark Richt and the Bulldawgs when the team that blew you out has lost in consecutive weeks to two other SEC rivals, one of which just blew the doors off of SC, who blew the Dawgs out.

Really, it’s time for Richt to go. Urban Meyer won the Gators two titles, and then he leaves, and in comes Muschamp, who has the Gators positioned again for another title run this year. The coaching turnover, the recruiting obstacles that he must’ve faced, and they’re still back and better than Richt and the Dawgs.

Get rid of the dude man. He hasn’t done anything deserving more time. He gets ‘top 10 recruiting classes’ year after year, and they still fall behind most, if not all, the SEC powerhouses. Bama, LSU, SC, and Florida all stay ahead of UGA.

If somehow the Dawgs manage to beat the Gators next week, you can hang onto your ‘keep Mark Richt’ hopes for another week, but, it’s about time they make a coaching change.

Cecil

October 20th, 2012
10:34 pm

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Matty Bicep

October 20th, 2012
10:34 pm

Richt is a good man who just might be meant to do more than coach football. Time to go, Governor Richt.

Big Ray

October 20th, 2012
10:35 pm

Paddy O and Matty Bicep ,

Enjoyed reading y’all’s posts on the evening of the 19th….good stuff there…good discussion.

Big Ray

October 20th, 2012
10:37 pm

Wabe – on Mark Richt – that be a fact, my friend…

JB Falcon

October 20th, 2012
10:45 pm

Wabe, thought there for a while that I was only one doing football. I totally agree that Richt is mismanaging a good team.
The Falcons are still to be seen. We can either come out against the Iglles like we did the first part of the year or we will be proven to be another also ran.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
2:19 am

well, considering we appear to be focused on stopping the pass and getting turn overs, I think our run defense has been adequate. we appear to be able to stuff the oppositions key RB; the rest seems to be BBDB. Mark Richt appears to be a conundrum. talks the talk, can’t walk the walk. way too many of his players – if he had the impact on them he appears to think he has – get in trouble with the law – so, I’d say his entire program is a house of cards.

Unca' Bob

October 21st, 2012
8:34 am

Seminole Warrior,

Good luck to you this weekend. I know your heart won’t be into it. It’ been displaced. Our thoughts are with you.

Coop

October 21st, 2012
9:38 am

On the Richt discussion, I have agreed he should go for about 4 years now. There are some similarities with Smitty. Primarily stubborn unwillingness to change. I haven’t given up on Smitty yet… And I feel encouraged by what I’ve seen this year, but eventually you have to take it to the next level.

Richt has shown me he can’t. I still hope Smitty can.

JJ

October 21st, 2012
9:47 am

Coop, looks like you will be tied for1st place after the war eagles crush WR today!

Coop

October 21st, 2012
10:02 am

Good luck JJ! Hope we both win.

BIG DOG

October 21st, 2012
11:28 am

If Mark Richt lose against Gators, he must go.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

BIG DOG

October 21st, 2012
11:30 am

This so sad, Bulldogs Fav. by 100points and win by 5, JUST DAM.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

D3

October 21st, 2012
12:02 pm

No UGA fan here, but seriously, what does it say about Mark Richt and the Bulldawgs when the team that blew you out has lost in consecutive weeks to two other SEC rivals, one of which just blew the doors off of SC, who blew the Dawgs out.

Really, it’s time for Richt to go. Urban Meyer won the Gators two titles, and then he leaves, and in comes Muschamp, who has the Gators positioned again for another title run this year. The coaching turnover, the recruiting obstacles that he must’ve faced, and they’re still back and better than Richt and the Dawgs.

Get rid of the dude man. He hasn’t done anything deserving more time. He gets ‘top 10 recruiting classes’ year after year, and they still fall behind most, if not all, the SEC powerhouses. Bama, LSU, SC, and Florida all stay ahead of UGA.

If somehow the Dawgs manage to beat the Gators next week, you can hang onto your ‘keep Mark Richt’ hopes for another week, but, it’s about time they make a coaching change. – Wabe

THANK YOU BROTHER! Dawg fans like Coop and myself are made to feel crazy by the Richt loyalists and will use any excuse in the world to justify keeping this weak @ss coach. UGA Football = The epitome of medocrity! It’s allowed because many GA fans simply settle for decent and just good enough.

Coop

October 21st, 2012
12:10 pm

D3 – Testify!

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
12:11 pm

Well, is college football like pro football in that winning is the only thing? We are talking about kids, most of whom will not play pro football. Does the experience, mentoring, an all the other intangibles not associated with the NFL mean anything?

That said, I think Richt is ready to something new, he just seem a little bored and get the feeling winning football games is not the most important thing in his world.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
12:14 pm

My point above is in the NFL, the end justify the means, in college that is not necessarily so. I would rather my kid to play for Richt than Meyer. Anyone feel differently?

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
12:17 pm

I don’t think Urban Meyer is a complete person, as we witnessed by his stint at FLA. Retiring, un retiring, stresssed, worred about health, then going to OSU…He is a great football coach, but is a person you want your child modeling? Or does that even matter? I struggle with it to be honest, I am not sure we need a “national champion” in college football. It just seems like nonsense.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
12:20 pm

On top of it, it was not like he even has the best interests of his plays at heart. He had Tebow playing in an offense that did not prepare him for the next level, what that to get the glorified W, or to develop his players.

On baseball, minor league baseball is not about Ws, it is about preparing the players for the next level. In college, it should be the same, but the “next level” for most of the kids is not football.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
12:48 pm

Wow, so, what am I suppose to do now? BTW, it Washington beats NY, what does that mean in cageland?

Robert James

October 21st, 2012
12:56 pm

D3 – “HERE! HERE! That was exactly the point I was trying to make when Tommy Gallarda’s fanboy started inferring I was d@mn dumb or something for thinking that the TE position was bare when TG leaves. My main point is that Dimitroff and Co. have not been able to develop ANY legitimate TE over a 5 year period other than Palmer. It seems that they simply go, “hey we’ll just sign a bunch of UDFA’s every year, rotate them out, and hope we snag the next Tony Gonzalez.” You couldn’t spend one draft pick of significance on a d@mn TE? A 5th or 6th?”

I assume D3 that the “Gallarda fanboy” comment refers to my comments on “Draftees vs UDFA” … One – I did not call you or infer you are a “dumb@ss”. I do believe you missed the point. A first or second year UDFA can be developed just as effectively as a 5th, 6th or 7th round draft pick. You presented a list of TE draft picks who were tops and by the way neglected to even mention Marcedes Lewis in JAX…. My point is that coaches evaluate talent and have 7 picks a year and there are more transactions done in the 24 hours following the end of the draft than during the draft – and there is great talent in the UDFA pool. I mentioned guys like Cruz and in the case of TE – Antonio Gates as UDFAs who were developed….. You can’t count Reggie Kelly as one of the young UDFA brought in to develop….
If TG retire after this season I believe TD and Smitty will draft a receiving TE and try to develop blocking skills in him. One thing’s for certain – every time TG comes into the game the defense thinks pass only. Contrary to your opinion that TG has developed into a good blocker just isn’t accurate. He is not a good blocker and even he has said that in interviews. He is barely ok at it… Turner has actually gained more yards when Gallarda is in the game than TG because Gallarda gets to the second level and does an effective job picking up the LB (as he did in the Redskin game).Gallarda also caught a 7 yard pass underneath the Safety and behind the LB in that game. The Falcons know both Gallarda and Palmer will not be TG in regards to the pass but can receive and will only improve and with their blocking defenses will have to pay attention to both run/pass.

D3

October 21st, 2012
1:00 pm

MB — Agreed on Richt. When you get your @ss completely kicked, embarrassed, humiliated, and even called out for quitting by the announcers, and then proceed to go shake the opposing coach (Spurrier) with a big ol’ smile on your face, you should lose your $4 million dollar job that night. That’s the thing that no one ever brings up…..the fact that he happily takes his $4 million dollars and gladly cashes it in his checking account. Ridiculous. So done with that dude.

JJ

October 21st, 2012
1:05 pm

Percy Harvin, 103 yd kickoff return! ;)

Coop

October 21st, 2012
1:06 pm

MB – I want my son to play for Richt. I want the coach of my Alma Mater to win National Titles.

Coaches in pros and college do have a myriad of different influences. I recognize that. I do think that there are leaders who can make an organization good, but can’t quite get it to great. Lee Iacoca is the premier example in business. In football, see Norv Turner, Marty Schottenheimer, Andy Reid, etc. I concede that it’s not easy and takes the right players, systems, circumstances, and luck. But some coaches just never see, to get to the final stage and win. I believe Richt is there. My fear is that will be Smitty as well.

That said, I’m hoping Smitty is more of the Dungy, Shanahan, Cowher type… Of course no need to way 10 years…

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
1:14 pm

I think Richt will feel a sense of relief when he leaves….But no, watching him smile while he shook Spurs and did not bother me. There are other things beside a football game, and except for the 4-5 kids who might play in the NFL, it is time the rest of the kids on his roster start to understand that. But I do understand the state of college football today, but I don’t have to like it.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
1:20 pm

I don’t see a coorelation between Richt and CS that is not shared by any other coach who has not yet won a championship. Is there a guarantee any one of them ever will? No. That does not scare me.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
1:24 pm

Actually, I think what CS has done for the Falcons is more than win a playoff game, or even a SB. He has turned this team into a winning franchise, year in, year out. That is harder than having that magic year. What CS and CMR have done for their respective organizations have been great, but in CMRs case you can see it in his eyes. It is time for him to go, but I think he has big things in his future, some very good things.

Falcon Jim

October 21st, 2012
2:03 pm

Bucs handing it to the Saints. If the Birds have to have a bye week, at least we can enjoy another NO loss.

D3

October 21st, 2012
2:18 pm

A good convo from Pat Y and a Falcons fan………

Dwight (Atlanta): Pat. do you think the Falcons might shuffle their Oline at the bye like they did last year? Think we might see Konz at RG or C?

Pat Yasinskas: Possible. But Smith is old school and superstitious. He might be hesitant to make big changes while they’re winning. But my personal opinion would be to go ahead and get Konz into the lineup.

If there is any, this will be Smith’s undoing: his downright stubbornness and refusal to make changes.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
2:42 pm

Wow, so, what am I suppose to do now? BTW, it Washington beats NY, what does that mean in cageland?

It means I get to toot my own horn that much more loudly, because I had been screeching about how valid that win was and how legit the ‘Skins are. ;)

Seriously…some folks still don’t get how good/dangerous Washington really is. I know the Giants are better against the pass than the run, but here are some facts from that game:

1) Morris has put up damn close to 100 yards on the Giants…in the first half. RGIII has 42 yards on the ground…in the first half. Yeah, that’s against THAT NY front line, too.

2) Eli has outpassed RGIII 147 yards to 85, but Eli has not TDs. RGIII has 1 TD. Guess who has a higher rating (138 to 86)?

3) Only one sack by the Giants, and it was also the only QB hit. Beyond that, RGIII hasn’t been touched, and he’s been accurate and effective. Those 85 yards? Came on 5 completions of 8 attempts.

Yeah…against possibly the NFL’s best DL (if they ain’t the best, they are top 2 or 3).

Even if they don’t win, I’m willing to bet it’s another close loss for them.

And their coaching, as most folks know, is pretty darn good.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
2:49 pm

D3 ,

You have a vaid point. And while I want to see Konz in the lineup, I also understand that there may be a reason why he’s not.

I don’t know that refusing to start one guy will ultimately be the undoing of Smith, but I do know that if the OL play can’t improve significantly from the Carolina/Oakland games, we are in trouble. And I’m also not convinced/sure that making one change on the OL fixes everything.

Then again, that might be JUST the thing to help. We may find out against Philly, but if the issue is bad there, I think we’ll have to wait for the game after that before any changes are made. Just a hunch…

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
2:51 pm

So, now the turner apologists think turner does not produce because Tony G is in the game? lol. Regarding preference on whom to play for -I still say, considering the # of players from UGA getting arrested for various crimes – Richt has more public persona than any genuine gravitas and influence of his players. Plus, I’ve never thought anybody but your parents indoctrinate you with character and virtue. But, it depends on whether you give your kid an honest assessment – true NFL material or not. If authentic NFL material (high potential of wealth in a short period of time), then you want your kid to play for Meyer, Spurrier of just plain FL – look at the # of Gators on the Patriots, Steelers and sprinkled through the league – FL develops players to play at the next level. Say what you want regarding Tebow, he is widely recognized as the best college QB – his high level of success – despite widespread detractors – got him drafted in the first round, and he whooped ballyhooed Pittsburgh last year. The Jets are just an ineptly run organization. They did not need Tebow – it was simply a publicity move for frantic and desperate NYC. I gained a lot of respect for the OC in Denver – that guy can read and develop the talent he has.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
2:52 pm

I don’t know if the Bucs have enough offense to outgun the Saints…however unfortunate that is.

The fact that they’ve put up 21 points is a testament to how bad the Saints defense is. Which means we should be throwing up 30+ on them…assuming our offense gets rid of its temporary schizophrenia.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
2:53 pm

Paddy O

Good post…

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
2:56 pm

Watching Scam and the Kitties shoot themselves in the foot. Can’t help but laugh…

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
3:00 pm

Speaking of failure, and I do realize that the Texans have one of the scariest defenses on the planet, but….

How about Joe “I’m the best QB in the NFL” Fake-O and the Ravens?

Fake-O is 7 for 20 for a whopping 52 yards and has thrown 2 INTs.

Yeah….two INTs against a Houston secondary that could NOT come CLOSE to catching up to Aaron Rodgers and his crew.

Uh-huh….nice job there, Fake-O.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
3:03 pm

funny if MS is really superstitious. If you were to make a change, now is the time. If Clabo is really hurt to the point that his play is impaired, why not take him out – for his and the teams benefit?

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
3:06 pm

In the WA game, I was pretty impressed how we held up RG3. It was our offense in that game that made me nervous. But, if WA now caused problems for Manning, we all have to start thinking we are better than thought. (6-0 indicates we are pretty good!)

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:11 pm

LSU is the leading SEC school with active players in the NFL with 40, LSU had 36, UGA is #3 with 35. And if I had a kid entering the College with designs on being in ten NFL, I would want Richt for I would imagine a lot more players enter college with designs on playing in the NFL than actually do play in the NFL.

I thought about the kids who get into trouble too, they NEVER get in trouble in Auburn or Alabama….You think maybe the cops call coach, instead of booking them? Just maybe?

My thing with Richt is he just says the right things, I doubt he will ever find him banging a co-ed. I just think he keep football in perspective of life, and that is very important for kids who are thinking NFL but have to learn differently….It might be that CMR had to do it himself, maybe that what makes him that way.

Full disclosure, I was at UGA when we won our last Natl Championship. I get it, but I personally do not think there should be a national champion in college, any more than we need one in High School . They are just kids.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:12 pm

Where are all the Flacco fans today? lol

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:13 pm

*FLA has 36 active players in the NFL, UGA 35.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:21 pm

Developing players is not always the same as winning, that is why there is not minor league baseball world series. Winning is secondary in the minors, and college is basically the minors for the NFL. But college is about $$$, the best interest of the kids is secondary. Again, CMR was a hotshot QB going into college, yet he never got on the field, I think that experience alone is what makes him the type of person I admire. He turned out OK, and I think it helps him prepare kids for life.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
3:24 pm

Where are all the Flacco fans today? lol

Exactly my point….

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
3:26 pm

Bucs just don’t have it. They are still very much the Saints b!tches…

Not enough offense, and certainly not enough defense. Their defense is young and inexperienced. Talented, but inexperienced. Not quite enough talent in the back 7, though.

D3

October 21st, 2012
3:27 pm

MB — RE: No National Champion in college…….man, sometimes brother, you just go way out there, but at least it’s interesting. We can talk about putting football perspective when he tells the University of Georgia that he will gladly coach the Dawgs for about 100k a year. We can’t be hypocritical on this man, he makes 4 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR to coach @ UGA, not including all his endorsement deals. I appreciate your candor, but I think you’re reaching here on Richt. For the record, I see a few similarities with Smitty and Richt, but Smith has done WAY more for our Falcons in half the time that Richt has done for the Dawgs. With all the talent he’s had over the the last 11 years, he should have won AT LEAST one nat’l title.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
3:31 pm

Ok, so Dallas has decided to prove to Carolina that they are even more adept at shooting themselves in the foot. They’ve now moved up to the ankles and are aiming for their own calf muscles. …

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:34 pm

Smith has done WAY more for our Falcons in half the time that Richt has done for the Dawgs

Agreed……Smitty is slowly unraveling 40 years of loser-ness. It ain’t easy.

I just think in college when you try to elect a natl champion you have to compare apples and oranges. The same morons who try and discredit the falcons are the same morons who elect or national champions, or elect who get to play for it.

It is all about money, not about electing a true champion. Logistically it is impossible to give every deserving team a chance to compete, so what is the point? I really dislike the politics of college football, if you can’t tell, lol.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:36 pm

But I do agree, time for Richt to go, unless he pulls it out of his azz next week, of course, then he will be the toast of the town…But your right, he is paid to win.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:37 pm

OK, how many picks has Eli thrown today? I lost count.

D3

October 21st, 2012
3:37 pm

Take this theory for a spin……………..

Dallas has the assumed bad year that they’re looking like. Jerry Jones fires Garrett. And he goes in to swoop up……………Sean Payton. Payton used to be Dallas’ OC, lives in Dallas, gets a restart, and leaves the looming disaster that is the New Orleans sAINTS.

Thoughts?

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:40 pm

Where UGA got screwed is when they could not play for the NC in 2007 (the Hawaii year). We were the best in the land at that point and time, don’t think anyone was gonna beat us… But we could not because the de-facto “rule” that NC has to win their league…Until last year…Such BS.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:41 pm

Payton to Dallas…..Agreed, a matter of time. Payton does not line NO.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:48 pm

If your an NFL coach, coaching the Cowboys is the grail. Even if playing of JJ is a PITA, it is still the boys. NO? Payton has a ring, probably not gonna see another one there, plus the cupboard is looking bare.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:49 pm

Why is NY throwing a back shoulder throw on 3rd and 1? We are not the only team that makes curious play calls.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
3:51 pm

matty – there is a minor league championship game. I disagree about them being kids. Young adults at the least. They can handle competition – losing does not permanently damage you.

D3

October 21st, 2012
3:53 pm

MB — Totally agree on college football. Still love my Dawgs, but college football is such a joke, at least until the playoff starts and I wouldn’t put it past them to find a way to F it up. RE: 2007 — I agree that we would have beaten anyone at that point, but alas that’s marquis Richt. We lost to one of Steve Spurrier’s worst South Carolina teams @ HOME! and then were annihilated by Tennessee 35-7. Where Richt could have changed his future forever was 2002. We had no business losing to Florida that year…….period.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:54 pm

Panthers lose. LOL. Crybaby towel time.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
3:55 pm

Well the Dallas Schizos win that one….but they got away with what looked like PI.

It’s okay, Scam would have found a way to foul it up either way.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
3:55 pm

actually, there is a thing called college world series and march madness. Now, if you want to discuss the hypocrisy of the NCAA – why should colleges be allowed to make money selling merchandise of certain players? I’ve got a Tebow jersey – Tebow should get some cash out of my purchase, not the SOB’s running the NCAA and their member schools.

D3

October 21st, 2012
3:56 pm

That Redskins win is looking better and better every single week. RG3 just made Justin Tuck and Osi look like leadfeet on that play.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:56 pm

Hmm, beating W is looking better and better.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
3:58 pm

Yeah…Sean Payton to Dallas…the only person who could screw that up is Jerry Jones if he won’t leave Payton alone while he’s working.

But that’s why you bring in a guy like Payton…because he knows what to do..and you don’t…and you’re tired of backing the boot lickers you keep letting run your show…

Besides…Payton HAS to know that the Taints are tinking…I mean sinking….

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:59 pm

Agree, a “true” natl championship with a playoff holds promise, but I like D3 says, they will F-F-Foul it up…

Anyway, just hope “good UGA” shows up on Jax.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
3:59 pm

Told ya….lol….

D3

October 21st, 2012
3:59 pm

Paddy — Are you a Gators fan? Totally agree on the NCAA. Crooks and complete hypocrites. The other side is that many football stars use them just as much to make to the pros, not really caring about getting an excellent education.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
3:59 pm

Eli does it again. Geez

D3

October 21st, 2012
4:01 pm

Did the Deadskins secondary really just let that happen? Their best and most explosive receiver is allowed a free release / go route. D@mn man.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
4:01 pm

also, kids can’t drive, drink alcohol or fornicate. at least genuine kids not being enabled to behave immaturely.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:02 pm

Yea, NCAA is so bad, I struggle to be a fan, to support it. And sure, some kids use it as a path the the NFL, but unfortunately it is the ONLY path at their option. The kids are exploited, pure and simple.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
4:03 pm

I am a Gators fan – attended UF for a short time. That was prior to the coming of Spurrier; but, as I left they announced that Emmitt Smith was going to play in the Swamp.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
4:04 pm

matty – I agree. I’ve always thought student athletes should be allowed to take a minimal # of courses while playing, then the school had an obligaton – provided they did not flunk out – to provide a scholarship to allow them to graduate after their athletic eligibility was up.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:04 pm

Wow, skins self destruct.

Paddy O

October 21st, 2012
4:06 pm

OK, see you fine folks later!

D3

October 21st, 2012
4:07 pm

Panthers-Cowgirls isn’t over just yet………

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:08 pm

is now…Cam with 40 seconds aint like Ice with 40.

D3

October 21st, 2012
4:09 pm

(S)Cam Newton does the one thing he cannot in that instance…………..takes a sack with no timeouts. Wow, Carolina really screwed the pooch with that pick. Just had to get that “entertainer and icon,” eh?

C’mon Bucs…………..

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:13 pm

Yea, cam also threw a pick the play before by tossing a Hail Mary instead of taking the easy dump 15 yards-get out of bounds stop the clock play. He does not even understand the concept of working the ball down the field against a prevent D.

Just glad he ain’t ours….

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:14 pm

OK, bucs time.

D3

October 21st, 2012
4:16 pm

How about that Curtis Lofton-led sAINTS defense, eh?

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:17 pm

When Josh freeman hangs 400 years on you, you got problems.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
4:19 pm

And I may have spoken too soon on the Tampa Bay Bucs. If they can pull this off, it will be as good as a Falcons win, considering its our bye week…

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
4:22 pm

So do the Bucs pull this off, or do the Friggin’ Taints get more home cooking penalty calls?

Man, I hate those guys.

D3

October 21st, 2012
4:24 pm

That was a BS call. How can you just push a receiver out of bounds and he can’t come back in? Hell, why not just always push the receiver out of bounds if that’s the case.

sAINTS get another BS call. It never ends does it.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:25 pm

So, when did it become legal to shove someone out of the endzone on a pass?

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:26 pm

I thought you can’t initiate contact after 5 yards? WTF was that? Exaclty, why not just pick the recievers up and drag them OB?

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:27 pm

That was worse than the “outfield fly rule” we saw a few weeks ago.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
4:28 pm

So, when a reciever runs a sideline pattern, we can just shove them out, and they are ineligible? Holy cow.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
4:47 pm

This is what the Saints do, now that they can’t get away with bounties anymore.

Raiders/Jags…nothing good to take out of this game, LOL.

If the Raiders win, it just proves how sorry the Jags are. If the Jags win, it just shows we played no better than they did against the same team. If the Jags blow the Raiders out, it makes us look even worse.

I think I’ll just conveniently choose not to comment on this one, LOL.

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
4:59 pm

Ain’t life grand?

Eli Manning was good for a bunch of yards, 2 INTs and no TDs….until the final seconds when he brings his team back to a victory with a game-winning drive against a team that shouldn’t be good enough to compete with the defending SB champs, much less beat them.

And the first thing you read on the ESPN site is how he proved that he’s elite with that one last drive. I guess the last drive erases everything else you did as long as it was the winning drive.

Oh wait, as long as your name isn’t Ryan, that is.

Ken Strickland

October 21st, 2012
5:11 pm

The fact that UGA is putting so many players in the NFL proves the program is definitely recruiting NFL caliber talent, which means their team and program are grossly underachieving. It reminds me of the situation that existed between UNC and Duke. UNC was producing all of the All Americans and NBA players, while Duke was getting to and winning more NCAA titles.

To me, that was a clear indication that coach K did the better job of coaching.

JB Falcon

October 21st, 2012
5:31 pm

Even though the Falcons didn’t play today, a little worry popped up when I saw some “real” running backs and pass rushers. I try to imagine what we would do against some of the players/teams and it does make for a concern.

Big Ray, you are spot on the the Manning eliteness. If the last second save makes Manning elite I guess MR would three times as elite since he’s done the same thing for the last three games.

JJ

October 21st, 2012
5:50 pm

JAC 17, OAK 3

Fock you Raiders and especially Palmer…back to back int then fumb…I only need 15 pts from DMC..come on!!!

JJ

October 21st, 2012
6:47 pm

For my SarahB ffl brothers, you might enjoy this site:

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showforum=8

JJ

October 21st, 2012
6:49 pm

Then click on the “Official FU thread” ;)

Big Ray

October 21st, 2012
7:11 pm

Jacksonville is making us look bad by exposing how bad the Raiders are.

I expect Smitty may feel the same way, but then again…you’re talking about a pretty focused guy who does not get sidetracked by the scoreboard…unless it’s the game his team in playing in.

That said, we better be executing like a mutha against Philly.

No seriously. It took us the better part of four quarters to score a single offensive TD, something Jax did against the Raiders in the first and second quarters. Let’s also consider that all of the points came from the OFFENSE, too. Gabbert with ZERO interceptions.

Yeah, I know…any given sunday, and all that. Circumstances are different. Still, if we can compare the Giants playing the Redskins to us playing the Redskins, then we can certainly compare the Jags playing the Raiders to us playing the Raiders.

JJ

October 21st, 2012
7:32 pm

Both games in overtime…come on pats n gaiders!!!

JJ

October 21st, 2012
8:12 pm

Congrats WR, great win! FOCK DMC!!!

Ken Strickland

October 21st, 2012
8:42 pm

It’s going to be very interesting to see what Smitty and Co will do to improve the production out of our OL and rushing OFF. I’ve said before that I don’t see any OL changes being made until after the break. Smitty and Co will make adjustments rather than changes and will wait to see if those adjustments work against Philly before resorting to making changes.

If changes have to be made, it will be even more interesting to see what changes will be made. Will Holmes replace Baker or Clabo, or will Hawley or Konz replace McClure or Reynolds? With the way our OLs performance has gotten progressively worse, I doubt if making any of the changes I’ve mentioned would make things any worse than they already are.

Even though there’s no way of knowing what we’ll do during our bye week to improve our OLs performance, I doubt if OL changes will hurt the OFF at this point. I just don’t see GReynolds, TMcClure, or SBaker getting any better at their respective positions. I do see Holmes, Konz, and Hawley getting better at those same positions if given consistent snaps and experience.

What doesn’t make sense to me is our coaching staffs insistence on converting OT GReynolds to OG, OCs PKonz and JHawley to OG and OG MJohnson to OT, while totally ignoring the option of moving TClabo back to OG where he started out. One thing is certain, if we don’t resolve our OL issues sooner rather than later, we’ll see a collapse during the remainder of the season.

JB Falcon

October 21st, 2012
8:46 pm

One thing is certain, if we don’t resolve our OL issues sooner rather than later, we’ll see a collapse during the remainder of the season.

Amen!

Wabe

October 21st, 2012
9:14 pm

Just some thoughts after a bye week Sunday for our Birds…

The league looks pretty crazy at the moment. The Giants and Packers seem to be catching steam. The Giants didn’t look oober impressive against a pretty decent Redskins team. Again, I wasn’t too bummed about the way we won against the Skins. It did suck to see our offense get locked up for a good portion of that game, and that we made Alfred Morris look as good as he did, but it’s looking more and more like the Skins aren’t pushover. I kinda felt that way going into that game, so I wasn’t bummed we came out with a win, regardless of how we got it.

The Panthers are free falling. Cam’s callin’ out coaches at this point. I really don’t blame him. I don’t think that Ron Rivera is really head coaching material. Solid D-Coordinator, but just don’t see him ever being all that successful in Carolina.

The Packers look like they’re close to being back. Maybe they never really went anywhere. They were playing some tough defenses to start the season. But, they’ve looked solid the past couple of weeks.

At this point, nobody can really make a case against anybody claiming the Falcons are the best team in the league. I know we haven’t really played good ball, but, it’s not as though the rest the league is making a case that we shouldn’t be in the discussion. The Ravens, who most folks had right behind us, just got romped. Same with the Niners a week ago. The Pats aren’t looking oober-impressive. The AFC in general looks pretty weak. The Texans and then the rest of the pack. I assume the Pats will eventually make their late season charge and will be the Texans challenger for a trip to the superbowl. The NFC is still pretty wacky. The Bears, Packers, and Vikings n the north. The NFC East is up for grabs. I think Arizona will slowly start coming back down to earth. But, I think the Niners will eventually take that division. The Falcons just have to focus on a game at a time and keep piling up the wins WHILE improving on our obvious flaws…

Wabe

October 21st, 2012
9:19 pm

What I fear about our Falcons is what we saw happen to the Ravens today. The Ravens had been cutting it close the past couple of weeks. They escaped with a 9-6 win against a bad Chiefs team, and then came away with a narrow 2-point win against a Cowboy team that racked up almost 500 yards on their defense and totally outplayed them. And then, they run into a formidable opponent, and they get blownnnnnnnnn out.

I think that’s what could happen to a team in this league if they continue to overlook flaws. The Ravens definitely have flaws. And they showed today. The Falcons too have their share of flaws, and unless we get them corrected, we could be on the wrong side of one of these beatdowns eventually as well.

Really hope they’re using this bye week to shore up some of these concerns. The running game, the O-Line, the running defense, the weak tackling. Hope that it improves in the coming weeks.

Wabe

October 21st, 2012
9:45 pm

Regarding O-Line changes, I’m with Ken Strickland. I don’t see us making any personnel swaps coming out of the bye. I think the only way we see personnel changes is if our O-Line eventually costs us in some way in one of these games.

I just don’t see how you can’t find a spot for Konz on this line. Try sliding Reynolds back over to the RT spot and plugging Konz in at RG. Do something man, because Clabo’s been getting ate up week after week. I really hope we don’t stoop into this ‘loyalty pack’ with Clabo. Dude’s proven to be the weakest link on this line this season, and changes need to happen.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
9:45 pm

Why are people so “Scared” and have “Fear” of what “might” happen in a game? It is just a game.

Did the Packers change lineman after their 7 sack performance a few weeks ago? OK, maybe we need to play a game so we can stop pontificating about the same issues, after a week it kinda runs out of gas.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
9:46 pm

I am having falcon withdrawls.

JB Falcon

October 21st, 2012
9:48 pm

Wabe, I could just drop out of the cage if you changed you handle to Wabe and JB.

Coop

October 21st, 2012
9:54 pm

Wabe – Amen! Though some think that a win is a win and NOTHING else matters, you can see with your own eyes that there are problems that need to be addressed. If the wheel’s squeaking but you get home, it doesn’t mean that you can’t reasonably conclude that you might have that wheel fall of on your next trip.

Of course, I could take any fact or random stat and use it singularly to try to prove my illogical point of view…

Coop

October 21st, 2012
9:58 pm

100K miles and the wheel hasn’t fallen off. Why should I worry about what happens? Nothing you see could possibly foreshadow future events. All games are random acts of completely equal talent where coaching is perfect and simple execution (not luck) by world class players is all that determines a winner.

I don’t know why I’m even driving this old truck. I know exactly what will happen… OR do I?

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:00 pm

Wow, panthers are imploding, cam crying about losing games at the end. Really, he fumbled twice in the 4th quarter against us. And with 40 seconds to go today, he threw a bad bomb that he was lucky was not intercepted, then he gets sacked…..,.Sorry Cam, being able to work the clock with a minute left is what the NFL is all about. What a freaking crybaby, I called it that he would not last the season, I might be right.

JB Falcon

October 21st, 2012
10:01 pm

“It is just a game.”

It all depends on how an indivual interpets that and what it means to you. We all have different opinions and. as a rule, we don’t speak down to folks who might have a different opinion than yours.
:) Politicians and preachers do that a lot but this is the cage and we just ain’t like that.

Coop

October 21st, 2012
10:04 pm

JB – Concur, it’s gotten way past stale.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:11 pm

It was interesting watching all the games, every team has huge issues and make lame play calls…the Giants called a back shoulder fade on 3rd and 1 to seal the game, needless to say, it was incomplete, they had to punt, and Washington came back an tool the lead, then Eli had to pull it out…. If we did that, you some people would be having heart attacks.

it appears the single most important quality a team must have is the ability to work the clock and pull the W off at the end. Personally, I like our chances and am not afraid to take my stand. I believe, if you don’t that is fine, just step up. And yes, I think the team that executes the best usually wins, and coaching has more to do with how a team executes than just about anything else. And yes, all teams have top tier talent, they all have guys running 4.4 40s and 300 pound freak athletes.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:13 pm

I just like like the words being “scared” and “fear” when talking about a football game. Hopefully the Falcons or our coaching staff does not feel your sentiments, for we are cooked if they do.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:15 pm

Cam does not know how to pull out a W in a close game. He can’t direct a 2 minute offense, he don’t know what to do. He will NEVER win consistently in the NFL until he does.

JB Falcon

October 21st, 2012
10:15 pm

It’s just a game.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:19 pm

It is just a game, I love it, but in the end, yes, it is. I sure don’t lose sleep over it.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:20 pm

Nor does winning a championship change anything in my life, all it means is I am happy when the season ends for a change. lol.

falcon21

October 21st, 2012
10:21 pm

Why even bother commenting if you think of it as just a game? It means much more to me and I think many in the Cage will agree.

Coop

October 21st, 2012
10:25 pm

He just comments to hear himself talk and agitate others. Self licking ice cream cone!

falcon21

October 21st, 2012
10:29 pm

Hear ya Coop!

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:33 pm

I love the game, I have watched the falcons for 40 years as most all have in the cage, and if winning was the only thing that mattered, I would have given up on this franchise about 20 years ago…and no reason to insult me Coop, if you don’t want to comment, don’t.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:36 pm

But really, the national media rips this team, if you are a fan, why do you? Sure they have all sorts of issues, who the hell does not? If is the state of the NFL today. Sure, Konz is cleaning everyone clock in practice, but Smitty does not put him in because he is an old dottering fool who just get lucky late in game. But, if Smitty does not play rookies, why does he play Ryan, JJ, Spoon, Baker, etc etc?

Plus, I am pretty sure Hill has some influence who plays, but no, I am sure Smitty says he has to play who he does…..

Coop

October 21st, 2012
10:40 pm

MB – Our difference is you don’t realize your are insulting us and continue to post. Learn to disagree without being dismissive. I’ve tried ignoring you, looking for your good posts and highlighting them, and trying to speak logically with you. But every time I fire up the Cage, I read you beating the horse that’s so dead the flies have grown tired of it. We get it, you disagree with most of us and feel like if you keep pointing it out with every post followed by a “LOL”‘ we’ll realize how superior you are and change our point of view… LOL!

Everything the slight event supports your opinion, you don’t have to post about it… LOL.

Weepin Jeebus.

Wabe

October 21st, 2012
10:42 pm

Matty B,

It’s obvious that we beg to differ. IMO, when a guy on the O-Line is getting beat up the way Clabo is, regardless of record, I’m contemplating changing things up if it means a protection boost on the line. If I feel Konz would provide this line a boost, I’m making the change, despite a 6-0 record.

You take my comments as ‘complaining’, when really, I’m simply pointing out an obvious flaw. How many games this year has Clabo been responsible for a sack?

You obviously saw us do no wrong in our squeaker against the Raiders. I don’t. Yeah we won, and that’s obviously all you care for. I want to see us play well. We haven’t been playing as well as we could.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:48 pm

Well, maybe my lols are a defense mechanism for the utter disappointment this franchise has wrought. I just learned to be laid back about it, because I personally think the journey is what I like, if I can’t be happy and laugh about it, why do it? If I let it tear me up, I would have to stop watching.

I guess we all deal with is differently. But I am not going to let my past disappointments let me stop believing in a team and staff that has show it can win consistently. Anyway, no offense intended. I think we are all good folks here, but I do get tired of the negativity over the same issues over and over again, just trying to being levity.

Wabe

October 21st, 2012
10:49 pm

You see MB, you take the ’slightest bit of criticism’ as ‘ripping the team’…

We’re not ‘ripping the team’. We’re pointing out obvious flaws. Pointing out the suspect line, or suspect run defense, or suspect playcalling doesn’t mean you’re ‘ripping the team’. Gauging how good this team is based on how we’ve played as opposed to our record doesn’t mean you’re ripping the team. We’re simply debating how this team would stack up when up against an oponent whose a bit more formidable than the 2-win Raiders and the 1-win Panthers. The 3 opponents we’ve played in the past 3 weeks are all currently teams under .500. But, we’ve won all three of those games by less than a score. We squeaked by in all 3 games. I told you, I’m ok with the Redskins game. Even the Panthers game, fine, whatever. But, there’s no way to spin how p!ss poor this team played against the Raiders. Giving up almost 500 yards of offense doesn’t sit well with me, especially playing against the Raiders. The O-Line getting pushed around, Ryan tossing 3 INT’s, all of that don’t sit well with me.

That ain’t rippin’ the team. That’s fair criticism.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
10:54 pm

I guess Wabe, I don’t know why Konz is not playing. I have to assume he just has not stood out when given the opportunity. Is it a Smitty thing? How about Pat Hill? How about Ice? Don’t you think they would have some input? Hell, it might be Ice who is telling smitty to keep this lineup because Konz is not picking up the calls. Point is, we just DON’T KNOW…..Maybe we will see a chance now that we had a few weeks to work on it.

Wabe

October 21st, 2012
10:54 pm

Not sure why I chose to jump back into this conversation. This is a never ending conversation really. It’s not just you MB, it’s been something that’s been ongoing for years now here. Again, I remember folks like myself and Coop taking a lot of heat in our 13-3 season for pointing out flaws, even after wins, from fans such as yourself who don’t want to hear about that when things are going great (record wise). We’re winning games, who cares how we look doing it, right? That’s where we differ.

You see, you’re right, ‘good teams’ find ways to win the way we’ve been winning. ‘Great teams’ don’t find themselves in the type of situations we’ve found ourselves in the past 2-3 weeks against the NFL’s bottom feeders. I simply want to see this team be ‘great’. Yeah, they’re good. They’ve been good. But, if they ever want to take that leap and taste ‘greatness’, they’ve can’t let teams like the Raiders stick around the way they did. They have to put teams like that away, especially at home.

Coop

October 21st, 2012
10:56 pm

MB – No one has stopped believing in the team or the staff. We’re simply saying we see flaws and gesticulating on whether we think they can fix it or not and whether its important based on our future opponents. My issue with you is that you attack me and not just my idea. You claim I’m not a fan, or I think I’m better than coaches. Lol.

I’m not better than anybody, but I’m smart enough to u dear stand what I’m seeing and comment on it. Disagree with class and I’ll listen to you. Otherwise, keep post to hear your own thoughts.

Coop

October 21st, 2012
10:59 pm

Wabe – Concur. Why am I dealing with this SLICC? He’s littering the Cage.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
11:00 pm

Again Wabe, if I saw a team in the NFL dominating, even on one side of the ball, I would be inclined to see agree that we need to, or even can fix all our problems. But problems and squeeker wins is that the NFL had become with parity. Winning late is the most important thing a team can do. Cock mismanagement, poor QB play, confused players, I saw it all at crunch time today, but it is were we excel.

Ryan tossing 3 INT’s, all of that don’t sit well with me….Nor does it with him. Eli tossed a few today too, and the giants made a hideous call in 3rd and1 to seal the game.

but Eli make the play in crunch time, so they get the W, and that IS all that really matters.

falcon21

October 21st, 2012
11:04 pm

Wabe, anyone that says it is just a sport or a game doesn’t really care anyway. If they keep score of a sport or a game it matters to me. I like winning myself, I would not have coached for so long if I thought winning meant nothing.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
11:09 pm

This is a never ending conversation really….

I know, we really needed to play today, like I said, we are having withdrawls. And Coop, you have attacked me at time too….Anyway, truce. All good. I do agree, we are good, not great, but the as much as we would like to prove our greatness in the regular season, it is impossible Will we elevate come playoffs? Gonna have to wait for the playoffs to see, as much as we would like to see a “sign”, they mean nothing. We can’t exercise the demons until playoff time…..if we even make it.

Bottom line? We are all have a bunch of emotional scarring from watching this pathetic excuse of a franchise never sniff a championship but for a few fleeting moments.

falcon21

October 21st, 2012
11:13 pm

Left out never, later Cagers.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
11:14 pm

21, I just keep it in perspective. I have a lot to be grateful for, there are people who depend on me, I sure has hell am not going into an emotional tank, or not going to be pleasant to be around Mick Luckhurst shanks a kick. It does not mean I am not a fan, nor does it mean you care more than I do.

falcon21

October 21st, 2012
11:18 pm

That is your opinion Matty, I will respect that. Later.

Matty Bicep

October 21st, 2012
11:19 pm

Later dude…

Unca' Bob

October 22nd, 2012
9:53 am

Carolina’s GM fired.

Big Ray

October 22nd, 2012
10:38 am

LOL…. MB just can’t help himself…

Big Ray

October 22nd, 2012
10:40 am

If Clabo is experiencing a bunch of alibi injury issues, get him the fark out of the game. I mean, we all heard that about Baker and how once healthy he would be fine. Well, he’s certainly adequate when healthy as we’ve seen. Hasn’t given up a sack yet, that I know of. Well, maybe one, but not like he was doing last season.

But if that’s Clabo’s issue…let him sit, plain and simple. The guy is AWFUL.

Paddy O

October 22nd, 2012
11:43 am

certain over hyped players are a management worst nightmare. I remember a certain father of a coach, who was a coach himself, state that Mike Vick was a coach killer. Vick is now working on what? Coach #3? Is Cam Newton another coach killer? Vince Young got Jeff Fisher canned in Tenn. Gotta be careful with over hyped super athletes with more athetic ability than football savvy. If we go at least 2-2 the next 4 games, we would be doing OK.

Paddy O

October 22nd, 2012
11:45 am

I don’t get scared – but I DEFINATELY get nervous – when we are not kicking the snot out of teams we should. Especially when the O line is playing bad and the game planning appears mailed in. What happened to the offense that killed KC?

Matty Bicep

October 22nd, 2012
12:03 pm

You see all the love Eli is getting for being Mr Clutch? While Ice gets dissed for being “lucky”, and how we “under perform”. I guess winning SBs will do that for you, but it also took Eli 8 years, at the 4 year mark, he definitely did not feel the love.

“MB just can’t help himself”..I guess not.

Funny, saw an article on SI about parity that talked about what would have to happen for every team to go 8-8 from here on out. For Atlanta, it said we would have to let the demons of the 13-3 season, and playoff collapses undermine our confidence. I agree, gotta put that stuff in the past.

DHunt

October 22nd, 2012
12:24 pm

So how did the NFL pan out this week? And how does it relate to the Falcons?

Steelers barely edge Bengals. Bengals had been touted as perhaps the team to beat in the AFC North, but do they really have any offense outside of AJ Green?

Big Ray has already made the comment that no matter what the Raiders do it doesn’t help the perception of the Falcons.

Patriots squeak out a win against the Jets. Are the Jets better than people thought, even with all their injuries and dysfunction? Or are the Pats on the decline, even as they talking heads try to convince the world that Tom Brady is still one of the best in the biz?

Titans over Bills, in another race to the bottom game, at least Chris Johnson put up some FFL numbers for me in one league (while sinking my ship in another… sigh…)

Colts top Browns, and now all of a sudden Luck is a spectacular athletic talent and potential rookie of the year? Really??

Pack sacks Rams. I never really believed the Rams were that good, and the Pack is still stacked with talent and a great offensive scheme. Their defense showed up a bit more today, but still gave up 20.

Vikings dump Cardinals. Cards were in the “best team” discussion last week weren’t they. Vikes were beat up by Skins last week weren’t they? How do you power rank teams when things like this happen every single week? Oh… that’s right… It’s a popularity contest anyway.

Refs give a game to Giants over the Redskins. The Giants were supposed to be the most complete team in the NFC right? Their defense makes Atlanta look pathetic right? But they didn’t run all over us like the did the Giants. If not for that phantom leg whip call when the Skins were about to blow it wide open in the 3rd quarter, the Giants take that L. Skins still had to work hard to give the game away.

Saints beat Bucs, but still can’t stop anyone. And that ignorant rule about being able to push receivers once the QB is out of the pocket is ridiculous. Never heard that one before yesterday. Also thought you could come back in bounds and touch the ball first as long as you didn’t run out on your own. Guess it take some pretty shady rules interpretations to keep the sAints relevant.

Cowboys survive against Panthers. The Falcons schedule it supposed to be getting tougher? We have two games against these teams and neither of them looked like they really cared to win. That’s supposed to be the tough competition coming up?

Texans spank Ravens. Flacco is proving that he is what we thought he was. Not capable of winning games, and just good enough not to lose games being won by that monster defense they used to have. They are now officially pretenders. Wonder how long it will take the media to realize that. AFC North is still up for grabs and not a threat in the long run.

49er’s barely beat Seahawks. Seahawks outplayed the Niners for most of that game. Again, the Niners were considered to be a far more complete team than the Falcons. Really? The most you can say is that they have one demonstrably more efficient running back. Other than that, exactly where are they so much better then the Falcons.

Can’t see why anyone is so very distressed about the Falcons. Sure they have some flaws, some weak links, and have played down to the competition a couple of times. But really, is there an obviously superior team in the NFL? If so, I certainly haven’t seen them yet.

DHunt

October 22nd, 2012
12:34 pm

Just gave the blog monster a mammoth lunch. The gist of it was:
1. Parity Rules
2. Falcons are as good as any team in the league, flaws, warts and all.
3. If our schedule is supposedly getting tougher, I’m not really seeing who is supposed to be the big bullies we have to deal with down the line.

D3

October 22nd, 2012
12:53 pm

DHunt — Post is out.

Zoomie

October 22nd, 2012
1:16 pm

“Cock mismanagement, poor QB play, confused players, I saw it all at crunch time today . . .”

The way Matty just grabs ahold of a theme and won’t let it go, not sure we want him expounding on that first thought . . .

(Not dissing, MB, just trying to bring some levity!)

Zoomie

October 22nd, 2012
1:17 pm

Yep. As I thought. That one was erroneously released from the clutches of the Blog Monster . . .

JB Falcon

October 22nd, 2012
1:22 pm

Scam Newton. “Sumptin’ gotta change Man. I don’t know what it is but it gotta’ change fast”.

Yeah, and what if it don’t? You gonna throw the biggest temper tantrum ever or are you just gonna crawl under your towel and pout ’til the unknown changes take place. Like, aren’t you included in the sumptin’?

JB Falcon

October 22nd, 2012
1:24 pm

DHunt, good post at 12:24!

Matty Bicep

October 22nd, 2012
1:34 pm

D you are right, parity rules. I like our chances, warts and all. It appears that the real difference between teams is who can work it down the field, manage the clock, and win late, and we got that, somebody outta give the memo to Cam.

Going out expecting to dominate is not realistic, nobody can do it. The thing about parity is every team thinks they are in it and desperate at the same time, so you get a team fighting for their life.

Scam’s problem is he panics. He is 0-12 when he throws 1 pick, nor does he know how to work it down the field in crunch time. He is NFL, not for long. I called it a few weeks back.

If I were Rivera, I would bench is azz, Rivera is toast anyway, may as well have some dignity, and earn some respect, and maybe they will even win a game. That is what you do with crybabies, you show them you can win without them.

D3

October 22nd, 2012
1:41 pm

MB — Panthers screwed themselves when they picked (S)Cam / Headcase / Entertainer / Icon to put butts in the seats instead of drafting smart and dedicated football players while continuing to develop their team.

D3

October 22nd, 2012
2:10 pm

Didn’t get a chance to finish my post, but here’s a list of guys they could have gotten instead of (S)Cam………(yes, hindsight is 20/20, but still)……

1) Von Miller
2) JJ Watt
3) Julio
4) AJ Green
5) Patrick Peterson
6) Aldon Smith
7) Mike Pouncey
8) Ryan Kerrigan

D3

October 22nd, 2012
2:26 pm

Here’s some much needed great news, even though I don’t expect to see him on Sunday vs. the Eagles…….

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/10/22/atlanta-falcons-corey-peters-returned-to-practice-today/

Matty Bicep

October 22nd, 2012
2:53 pm

If I am RR, I call cam and had e following talk.

I am making a change, you are no longer the starting QB. You can:

A come in, work hard and prepare and be ready when the opportunity arises like every other non starter on this team.

B you can come in and sulk.

C. You can quit.

Either way, I am switching my focus to the other 52 players on the roster. I hope to see you tomorrow, but you need to decide what is best for you, not “cam”.

RR would at least go out with respect of his players who have seen non hackers since they were in peewee football. They get it. RRs career is on the line.

JB Falcon

October 22nd, 2012
4:22 pm

“I think we need somebody to step up there and take hold like a Ray Lewis does or a Tom Brady does,’’ Hurney said.

It’s a shame Hurney didn’t come right out and say Scam was not that guy. Instead he said “I think he’s certainly capable.” Meaning, Scam cost me my job, imo.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/65531/marty-hurney-talks-about-his-firing

Matty Bicep

October 22nd, 2012
5:01 pm

And the first thing that leader needs to do is grab cam around the throat and say, stop that stupid superman crap, your the QB, you need to be on the sidelines looking at photos of the defense, not dancing around like a clown.

JB Falcon

October 22nd, 2012
6:51 pm

Just out of curiosity I counted the posts on this page and found that 36% of the 47 posts are from the same person, the next closest, out of the ten different folks who posted, was 6%.
But who’s counting, huh? LOL

Unca' Bob

October 22nd, 2012
7:48 pm

I, er um. Once a GM is fired the coaching staff tends to not be the same. If I’m RR, I’m not preachin’ to anyone. He needs to be putting out his resume.

falcon21

October 22nd, 2012
7:54 pm

I know this is off base but my son got married this weekend to a great girl and I am very proud for him. Anyway, they are now on a cruise to a destination where a hurricane is forming. Talk about bad luck. Ok Cagers, I’m back to football now. And to JB, LOL.

Coop

October 22nd, 2012
8:00 pm

21 – Congrats and a prayer to the big jump master for their safety!

Matty Bicep

October 22nd, 2012
8:01 pm

Hey, no LOLing allowed! But for the record, JB, you personally posted 6 times, so 6 out of 6-47 posts is about 13%. My god, are we really this bored when the Falcons don’t play?

But yea, RR is toast, that is why I would sit (S)cams azz. May was well go out with your dignity, and I can tell you, every player in the locker room will respect it, they are waiting for it. Like I said, they recognize a non-hacker better than anyone.

Congrats on the son 21, keep your fingers crossed.

Also read where Smitty says Konz is “coming along”….Wonder if we will see him this week?

falcon21

October 22nd, 2012
8:06 pm

Thanks Coop and MB. My son is my world.

D3

October 22nd, 2012
8:29 pm

21 — Congrats brother. I know you’re a proud papa. Did he marry a Dawgs fan?

JB Falcon

October 22nd, 2012
8:33 pm

My god, are we really this bored when the Falcons don’t play? MB
I guess we are! Can we still do :)
But you, out of the ten, went back and counted! Nobody else did. (I only had me down for five.)
And, yes, it is dayem boring when you have to watch everybody else play and we have to sit here and read about Eli’s miracles and how great Sleez is.
I’m not doggin’ on you MB, that’s not my style. I just drop a hint now and then and if someone picks it up and uses it, that’s my contribution. If they don’t? Ain’t no skin off my teeth. This is not my own personal diary but I do enjoy reading different views and opinions.

D3

October 22nd, 2012
8:36 pm

Few snippets from DOL’s new article…………

“We spent the week taking a good, hard look at things that we have to get better at. We identified them. Today was a Falcon on Falcon day where we came out here and really worked on fundamentals. We did not start our game planning yet for the Philadelphia Eagles. We’ll start that on Wednesday, so we’ll have a normal sequencing week. Big day on fundamentals today. Things we feel like we needed to do to help ourselves play better through the last ten games of the season.”

That’s good news. I think many times teams or coaches get to caught up in playcalling, schemes, etc. and forget about the most basic things to being a good football team: fundamentals.

Since I gave you the nugget on (TE) Michael Palmer before he went down we’ll talk about Michael is back. That’s good to see. We were targeting this week. Michael was able to participate in practice today, so that’s a positive to get him back.”

Really nice to see him back. Thought he was / is having a good year as TG’s #2.

“Peter Konz is coming on well. He’s a guy that can play two positions for us and I like the way he’s progressing.”

PUT HIM IN DMT!

ON EAGLES NEW DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR: “Most of it is about us. We’ve got to go out, and we have to execute. There will be some unknown. There will be some unscouted looks. Coach Bowles is an outstanding coach. He was the interim head coach at Miami last year and worked with Mike Nolan and Joe Danna.

I really hope this gives us at least a tiny bit of knowledge into any surprises we’re likely to see.

Working on new post……………

JB Falcon

October 22nd, 2012
8:38 pm

21, I could say “don’t worry” but that would be like tinkling my my shoes and calling it a rainstorm. I know you will and your son will come back with a story you can tell your grandkids! The boat wuz rockin!

Matty Bicep

October 22nd, 2012
8:47 pm

No prob JB, I know your cool, I did occur to me that I was talking to myself all day. I had the Cam story on AM all day, so I just had to vent…that story and how utterly great Eli is, but hey, he got them rings.

falcon21

October 22nd, 2012
8:55 pm

D3, all of her family are Tech fans but we have converted her. She is now a Dawg fan through and through. LOL JB, thanks man,

JB Falcon

October 22nd, 2012
9:04 pm

MB, took Eli four years, just wait for it.

Matty Bicep

October 22nd, 2012
9:21 pm

Chicago is looking like a pretty good team this year….playing some ferocious D.

falcon21

October 22nd, 2012
9:37 pm

Chicago is looking pretty good but they still have the head case Cutler that will help keep the other team in game,

JB Falcon

October 22nd, 2012
9:58 pm

21 & MB, it’s been 10-0 for the last 30 min. Ya’ll can set up and watch but I ain’t got no dog in this fight. Either team can win, as goes the NFL. I’m out.

falcon21

October 22nd, 2012
10:00 pm

Later JB, me also.

D3

October 22nd, 2012
10:16 pm

NEW POST UP BIRD CAGE FAMILY! —–

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-fans/2012/10/22/atlanta-falcons-give-your-bye-week-fixes/

See you over there…………………..