Huge Hit by Spoon (Evan Vucci)
The Atlanta Falcons weren’t pretty, but they got the job done yet again on the road, coming from behind, and finding a way to win. The offense looked out of sync for almost the entire game, the defense had major problems with the run and even gave up a first career touchdown pass to a brand new rookie in Kirk Cousins, but nonetheless, the Falcons found a way to win the game and got it done when it really counted. And by the way, the Atlanta Falcons are 5-0 for the first time in franchise history and they have plenty areas for improvement. They may have “sucked” as Roddy White jokingly said after the game, but they’re also undefeated. A look at the Birds road win in DC………
It marks the second week the Falcons have looked less than stellar and had to make a comeback in the 4th quarter to win the game, but an ugly win beats a pretty loss, or as some call them “moral victories,” every day of the week. The offense slogged around the first half, throwing a pick-six in the process, and the defense got gashed by the run and torched by a brand new rookie QB, but the Falcons buckled down when they had to. Matt Ryan led the offense to score 17 points in the 4th quarter and the defense came back from their awful blown coverage TD to Cousins to steal two interceptions in a row to close out the game. If they Falcons continue their overall subpar performances, than it’ll be a cause for concern, but for now their finding ways to win, and they’re only one of two teams that are undefeated, by the way.
The Ageless Wonder (Susan Walsh)
Cam Newton almost racks up 100 yards himself and 6th round draft pick rookie steams to 114 rushing on Sunday. The Birds are doing a great job in the pass game and takeways, but are showing some weaknesses and vulnerabilities in the run game. The Falcons are currently ranked 27th against the run and will face plenty of strong running teams as the season goes along. In particular, the defensive tackles and middle linebacker play seem to be giving up large amounts of yards. Jerry, Babineaux, and Walker are excellent getting penetration against the pass, but seem to be wearing some vs. the run. Akeem Dent is having major issues at middle linebacker (more below) and that’s putting more and more pressure on the outside linebackers, safeties, and cornerbacks. It should be said that the Falcons are 7th against the pass, but they need to stiffen up against the run a little bit.
Did someone say Tony Gonzalez is supposedly retiring this year? It appears that the 36 year old is on track for one of his best seasons yet. Gonzo hauled in 123 yards with a touchdown and is tied for 3rd overall with 4 touchdowns (among all wide receivers) and 15th in yards including all wide receivers (1st among tight ends). He is surely benefitting from teams trying their best to keep both Julio Jones and Roddy White in check and Koetter is happy to oblige him with the targets. Many teams have talented receiving corps, but few have the additional talent at tight end to occupy the middle with authority the way Gonzalez does. No one is surprised at what he does anymore and he’s playing like he just came into the league. Looking forward, the Falcons and their fans are starting to realize how big the hole will be at TE when he leaves.
Fans and the Bird Cage faithful were ready to toss anything they could get their hands on at the TV seeing Joe Hawley, Mike Johnson, and Garrett Reynolds go out for passes, line up as a 3rd tight end, or doing anything other than blocking on the line (Reynolds illegal man downfield was an accident, but still). What in the Hades is going on here? Some thought the first pass to Joe Hawley (he’s a center remember?) was just an accident, but when it happened again, it bordered somewhere in between being nauseous and bewilderment. Seeing Hawley trying to catch the ball was akin to seeing him in a tutu on a highwire.
JJ Back in the Groove (Susan Walsh)
The Falcons are struggling at fullback in losing Bradie Ewing in the first preseason game and not having Lousaka Polite active this week, but having Hawley or others go out for passes with all the talent available is just criminal. Mike Johnson has been playing a lot of 3rd tight end roles lately which brings up another point: if Tyson Clabo is needing that much extra help in blocking, why is he still in there? Every time Johnson or Hawley are in as an extra lineman, that’s taking out guys like Harry Douglas, Jacquizz Rodgers, Jason Snelling, or even Kevin Cone and Drew Davis. Very, very puzzling and strange.
Another game, another big drop early in the game. The Falcons had a huge play drawn up where Ryan hit Julio Jones on a nice deep ball right at the end zone only to see him drop another big one. Fans were starting to get anxious after seeing Jones struggle the last few games, mainly with drops. Could so much talent not explode as everyone thought? The good news is that Ryan and Koetter kept feeding Jones the ball and he looked like the stud we’ve all come to know in the very short time he’s been in red and black. He helped the offense drive down the field with excellent routes, good catches, and his signature extra effort to get more yards. He capped it off with a dazzling touchdown catch where he adjusted to a sidline pass, snagged it, and kept his feet in for the score. Great to have you back JJ!
Akeem Dent is struggling mightily at middle linebacker. There’s really no other way to spin it. He looked lost, had weak instincts, overran plays, missed tackles, and was blocked with ease. Even though some are bringing up the B word already after many thought he was a big reach for the 3rd round, it may be a little premature for that. To be fair, Dent hasn’t had a ton of snaps since Nolan is a fan of the big nickel and he’s only a few games into his first starting year. Sean Weatherspoon didn’t look that great as a rookie himself. Dent also has undergone some serious changes the last 4 years, going from a 4-3 defense under Willie Martinez as a junior at UGA to the 3-4 as a senior under Todd Grantham back to a 4-3 under Brian Van Gorder and finally to a new scheme, more of a hybrid, under Mike Nolan. He is, after all, from a Mark Richt led Georgia team well-known for under-developing their players (see that Justin Houston is top 5 in sacks and Blair Walsh is on fire in Minnesota). Also, Dimitroff did sign Lofa Tatupu in a great low-risk, potentially high-reward move before he was injured.
However, defending Dent can only go so far and he can only get so much time to improve. At what point will Mike Peterson get brought back in or Kroy Biermann get a permanent move to LB (a very popular idea here in the Cage). This much is a lock: linebacker moves to the top of the 2013 draft board.
Can an OL play QB Next? (Evan Vucci)
On one hand, the Falcons have had two performances that are easy to forget, playing an opponent that is decent-to-good, but surely not great or elite. However, the Falcons have proven the last two weeks that they can find ways to win even if they’re not playing their best. At some point, this will start being an issue instead of a strength, but for now, they’ve won two games in a row down at various points in the game.
The drops are starting to add up and it’s not that big of deal just yet, but something to be looking out for moving forward. Julio dropped a potential long touchdown catch, Quizz dropped an easy screen/dump-off, and then there was Joe Hawley dropping two catches….oh wait, he’s a center running passing routes like a receiver, but surely that can’t be right? In all seriousness, the Falcons need to start locking up the easy catches when they get a chance and eliminate as many drops as possible.
Even though it wasn’t as much as expected, there are surely some who think that the game may have been different if RG3 hadn’t got injured and left the game, but just like forcing Peyton Manning into his interceptions, the Falcons defense brought the wood to him when he pulled the ball down and started to run. Also, the Birds did an excellent job keeping him hemmed up even before the injury. The Falcons defense held him to 91yards passing and only 7 yards rushing in the 3rd quarter. Overall, the Falcons defense pretty much shut down the rookie QB.
Mike Smith, Thomas Dimitroff, and Arthur Blank just keep on knocking down those walls. The newest one is getting to 5-0 for the first time in franchise history, which doesn’t mean too awful much to being so early in the season, but it’s been a great start to the campaign and bodes well for the Falcons and their fans going forward.
1) Opening Kickoff: what’s your overall thoughts on the Falcons win?
2) How concerned over rush defense?
3) Do you think Gonzalez is rethinking his retirement after all?
4) What object were readying to throw after the Hawley passes?
5) Please explain the “Extra OL as 3rd TE” mess, if you can.
6) Is Julio back after a few missteps in games?
7) What’s your thoughts on Akeem Dent, MLB overall?
8.) Are the comeback wins a sign of mettle or slowing down?
9) Are the drops starting to worry you?
10) What do you like about your 5-0 Falcons?
11) What worries you most about your 5-0 Falcons?
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Greg Mendel
October 8th, 2012
10:00 pm
To paraphrase the motto of the Legion Etrangere — Sleep or Die!
G’night Cagers.
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falcon21
October 8th, 2012
10:14 pm
#10. I’m still worried about this O-line. It will get us into the playoffs but how will it stand up against a good D-line or just a good aggressive defense? Carolina made them look like rookies and it was Carolina.
D3
October 8th, 2012
10:14 pm
I know it’s a little 20/20 hindsight, but (at least considering what LB’s were available) there wasn’t a ton to choose from in terms of LB. If firmly believe that if Mason Foster had slipped a few more picks, he’d be in a Falcons uni right now……
Akeem Dent – LB – Round 3 – 91st
KJ Wright – OLB – 6′4 – 246 – Round 4 – 99
((’11 stats – 12 starts – 65 tackles – 2 sacks – 3 passes defensed))
Colin McCarthy – LB – 6′1 – 238 – Round 4 – 109
((’11 stats – 7 starts – 68 tackles – 3 passes defensed – 1 INT))
Casey Matthews – Round 4 – 116
((3 games started in 2 years))
All guys after that either have not made any starts and most have been cut. Was it a reach? I could see it, but considering what was there around that time (at any position) , I’m not inclined to say so just yet.
I will say that if TD really did know he would let Lofton walk, than he should have moved up and snagged Foster.
Nite ‘all.
falcon21
October 8th, 2012
10:15 pm
#11 I mean!
D3
October 8th, 2012
10:15 pm
RE: Dent Reach Post — I meant to include the 3rd round that was available after Dent and forgot, see for yourself………
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NFL_Draft#Round_3
Really gone now.
Michael
October 8th, 2012
10:49 pm
You raise some good questions D3. As far as the run defense goes, I lean on the side of optimism and believe as the season wears on, the D-line will get better as they get more time in Nolan’s system. As for the main problem with the run defense (Akeem Dent), I was never high on him and as I’ve noted time and again, when your hopes are built around 3rd, 4th and 5th round picks, you are in trouble. (see exhibit 1; Falcons run defense).
What I would love to see (and I am no expert) is Biermann as an OLB standing next to Abraham or Edwards. then its a “take your pick as to who to block” from the outside. Biermann is clearly at his best when he’s turned loose and flying around the field wreaking havoc. Then slide Nicholas to the MLB spot as he is emerging as a tackling machine. This way when Nolan wants to use his hybrid nickel package, he can only use one DT, two DE’s and Biermann to rush the passer (4 guys) while either blitzing someone from the secondary or an extra LB and/or just dropping 6 in coverage.
As for throwing the ball to O-lineman, I agree, enough is enough. Besides, you can’t run the same gag forever. Teams will catch on. Why aren’t they using Snelling more as an extra TE if needed or at FB? What is up with the staff that they just don’t use him properly. Everytime he touches the ball, he runs hard. He blocks hard. What does he have to do to get some respect from the coaching staff? Good grief.
Finally, I still think JJ’s hand is still bothering him. But as Mike Smith is very tight lipped about injuries, no one is saying anything. If you watch him when the cameras cut to him on the sidelines, he is often seen holding his injured hand up as if to keep the blood from rushing down and throbbing. But he has to be out there or they double down on both Roddy and Gonzo. What I was hoping to see (or hope to see very soon) is them intentionally feature Douglass for a game. I think when that happens, teams will truly be nervous because there is no way they can game plan to double Gonzo, JJ, Douglass, and Roddy while also trying to stop Turner or Rodgers from running. Hope springs eternal.
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Falcons Chic
October 9th, 2012
7:20 am
I’m not worried if DeCoud and Gonzo are not worried. I would like to see Nicholas back at full strength. PLEASE don’t let Raiders be a trap game. THAT would be embarrassing. If Matty Ice 2 and Matty Ice 3 can keep it rolling … I think we’ll have a nice bye week just reveling in the possibilities.
Ray
October 9th, 2012
8:25 am
Although this is a bit off-topic
Looking at ESPN just found out Texans only beat jets by 6 points and yet people talk about us only beating Washington by 7.
Honestly I wish people would realize that the only team to be considered extremely sorry is the Jags, and not only that when people know you’re undefeated they’re gunning for you on that lone reason.
Still though 5-0 for the first time ever that’s all that matters until Sunday darn it. Then if we win all that matters is 6-0 for the first time lol until 2 weeks later.
Wings
October 9th, 2012
8:33 am
The big tests for the Falcons are Eagles, Cowboys, Giants, and Saints. I only put the Saints in the list because of the rivalry. I consider the Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants as the BIG GAMES that the Falcons seem never to win in previous years.
Ray
October 9th, 2012
8:46 am
If we beat the Eagles people will begin to give us more looks if we man-handle the Saints twice it gets better, and if we beat both Gaints and Cowboys well I’ll be happy that’s for sure.
John Waynesworld
October 9th, 2012
9:17 am
Thanks, D3…
1) What are your overall thoughts on the Falcons win? It was a good win, a solid road victory against a decent team. 5-0 and undefeated!
2) How concerned over rush defense? Not concerned AT ALL. We have encountered a number of good rushing teams in this early season, and the only fact I see in this game is that we allowed a 100+ yard rusher. Other than that, the Redskins offensively scored only 10 points, they had 12 first downs to our 28, they were 1 for 9 on 3rd Downs, and possessed the ball for 15 minutes less than we did. We were solid defensively.
3) Do you think Gonzalez is rethinking his retirement after all? Yes, definitely. Unless we don’t win a playoff game (or we win it all), he will be a Falcon for one more year. He may postpone retirement because of the benefit to his vitamin company with all the interest in his longevity. After all, what are all the announcers on TV always saying, “Where did he find the fountain of youth?” and Tony will say, “Go to my All Pro Science website!”
4) What object were readying to throw after the Hawley passes? I wanted to throw a tube of stick ‘em to Hawley for his hands. No harm, no foul on the odd play calls.
5) Please explain the “Extra OL as 3rd TE” mess, if you can. It just provides another blocker much like the jumbo package, or it gives the opposing defense the look of using an extra blocker for another propose. There is quite a bit of deception that goes on from play to play with real OCs, so who knows.
6) Is Julio back after a few missteps in games? The only thing limiting Julio in the NFL is that he is only in his second year and he needs to learn all the nuances of the WR experience, such as individual opposing player tendencies and even referee tendencies. Julio is way ahead of the curve.
7) What’s your thoughts on Akeem Dent, MLB overall? Overall, I think…Is E.J. Henderson still available? I’m not happy about anything from UGA right now.
8.) Are the comeback wins a sign of mettle or slowing down? For teams with a winning record, getting “ugly” wins are a sign of mettle.
9) Are the drops starting to worry you? No, as long as they aren’t coming from Roddy, and that Julio is catching most of his. Matt throws such a soft pass that the drops from Turner and Quizz are just a matter of focus. After all, the RBs are new to this passing game stuff. Harry needs to step up, though, as he doesn’t get enough looks to drop even one pass.
10) What do you like about your 5-0 Falcons? The fact that they are the only sports team in town with BALLS enough to seize victory, instead of being a passive frontrunner.
11) What worries you most about your 5-0 Falcons? The fact that we may get talked about too much in the media in coming weeks and months, and it will go to our heads. Other than that, what’s not to like? 5-0 BABY!!
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
9:19 am
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nfcsouth&id=40067
As I expected, all this downing Dent is a bunch of rambling without understanding the full situation. Stephen Nicholas was taken out part of the game with an ankle injury, which made Mike Nolan shift Dent to outside linebacker. That’s not his natural position. Also, Stephen was out in the second half, which the Falcons did a better job against the run game.
Instead of head hunting the kid after only 5 games, understand that not only has he had to play a new scheme, but he has been shifted out of his natural position. At least give the. Guy a year before calling him a bust. I am not saying he is the future, but you got to give the guy a year.
Maybe these are the reasons why he looked lost.
waynester
October 9th, 2012
9:28 am
it’s going to take a good while before Dent is really up to it. He’s replacing a guy that was awesome against the run, so he’s bound to suffer by comparison. If Clabo has a hip problem, that would explain a lot–the loss of power and flexibility would be significant. That run “D” could be a problem vs. OAK–their run game is pretty good…Overall, I’m happier than a pig in slop…..
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
9:50 am
Great article D3…
Before I answer the questions, how about the Texans looking pedestrian last night? I guess they have crappy coordinators too, eh? No. Teams have bad games. It’s the NFL. Yet, like the Falcons, they are 5-0.
Opening Kickoff: what’s your overall thoughts on the Falcons win?
Resilient victory. The Falcons had offensive luls, but the defense held strong versus one of the most dynamic offenses in the league. Holding the Redskins to zero offensive touchdowns in the first half is no easy task. Kudos to Matt Ryan and the offense bringing things together in the 4th quarter.
2) How concerned over rush defense?
Not concerned until after the Raiders game. We went against two offenses with dynamic QBs. They improved with RG3, which shows that Mike Nolan adjusted. I. AM. NOT. WORRIED. ABOUT. THE. D!
3) Do you think Gonzalez is rethinking his retirement after all?
If they win a couple playoff games and come short of a Super Bowl title, then yes.
4) What object were readying to throw after the Hawley passes?
Nothing, because if he would have caught the passes, he would have had huge gains. DK would look like a mastermind. Execution people, execution.
5) Please explain the “Extra OL as 3rd TE” mess, if you can.
Help with pass protection, and try to change the flow of the game with different looks.
6) Is Julio back after a few missteps in games?
Yup.
7) What’s your thoughts on Akeem Dent, MLB overall?
Read my previous(and objective) post.
8.) Are the comeback wins a sign of mettle or slowing down?
Mettle. Teams have these games every year. I mean, look at the Texans last night. Their offense was atrocious. Washington is no scrub team. They have been in every game this year. I think people have their expectations too high, and think that every opponent is suppose to be easy. This is the NFL. There is a lot of upside to this team–arrow is pointing up.
9) Are the drops starting to worry you?
Julio needs to tighten up, but the check down drops will be addressed by DK. I am sure of it.
10) What do you like about your 5-0 Falcons?
Swarming defense, “pick your poison offense”, and very fundamentally sound(fewest penalties in the league). What’s not to like? Of course you can be nit picky, though. Every team can continue to improve, though–none is perfect.
11) What worries you most about your 5-0 Falcons?
I am still worried about the offensive line protection, but we will not see the true test until the Eagles game. I am also annoyed by the execution from our offense by not taking advantage of the good play calling. They are making Matt Ryan and our OC look bad. Catch the dang ball!
Paddy O
October 9th, 2012
10:11 am
I’d like to 2nd MIchaels notion of essentially targeting HD for a game, just to get an idea of how open/productive he can be. The key I get out of the Hawley thing is opposition manipulation – get the opposing team to NOT take Hawley for granted – thus reducing coverage on our regular playmakers. I’m hoping Tony G keeps on playing.
waynester
October 9th, 2012
10:17 am
More on Dent–this time from Pat Y
in game 2 Dent was in on only 1% of plays…vs SD it was up to 36%, vs CAR, 47% and vs WA 55%. HCMS & Co know he’s not ready for the full load, plus it has a lot to do with the type of offensive attack we’re facing. We’re bringing the kid along patiently– but of course, we fans aren’t known for our patience–but 5-0 has quite a calming effect on the fanbase….
Hamad Meander
October 9th, 2012
10:19 am
I think the most impressive thing abot the Falcons record so far is that we have 3 wins on the road. The last few years haven’t been kind to us on the road. I like the aggressive playcalling on both sides of the ball, and it looks like special teams have been solid so far.
This is a really good football team. Let’s beat the Raiders, have a week off, and go onward!
Dane
October 9th, 2012
10:50 am
@wings I have to disagree on not winning the big games. In 2010 and 2011 seasons we beat the eagles at home and away, we beat Peyton on monday night this year, we beat a hot detroit team last year in their house, we beat the packers in their superbowl year during the regular season even though they beat the snot out of us in the playoffs.
I think we will beat the hell out of the Eagles the Cowboys and I think the Giants and the Cards will give us a tougher game. New Orleans and everyone in our division always plays Atlanta tough.
awright
October 9th, 2012
11:06 am
Every one is downing Dent without giving him a far shout just last year everyone was like get Dunta out of here and asking way did they resign Thomas DeCoud but now everyone is happy on what they are bringing to the table you have to give people a chance to develop in the scheme that they are playing I think he can be a decent player but in due time give hime more then 5 games into the season with only one game where he really played in to say how he is doing or did I’m just saying give people a chance before u just bash them
awright
October 9th, 2012
11:14 am
also spoon came along to emerge as the player he is today put it took a couple of years it first year wasn’t great so that being said it takes time
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
11:17 am
how about the Texans looking pedestrian last night? I guess they have crappy coordinators too, eh?
Bingo. The thing about the NFL is, the other teams have mundo talent, and good coordinators too. That is what makes it so good. The days of the 49ers of the 80s are over. There is not “new” schemes, just wrinkles, but only well coached teams find what I call a winning combination, and it goes way beyond scheme.
Really, for all the consternation of the 13-3 season, BJEEESUS, we went 13-3. But yea, so “we got lucky”, so, lets say we to 10-6…So I say YAY….But then what did we do?
Ahh, go 11-5,
now we are 5-0. My point, 13-3 was not fluke. we have a WINNING PROGRAM.
I know, playoffs….PLAYOFF? PLAYOFFS?
Really, every NFL teams have concerns, every team is beatable, and every team plays in peaks and Valleys. Hopefully we peak when it matters the most. Scheme Scmeme.
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
11:56 am
CS…My hat’s off to Coach Haslett and his staff yesterday. They did a nice job. It was very apparent what they were going to try and take away and force us to throw the ball underneath.
Well, there ya go.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
12:13 pm
Run on sentences aside, awright is correct.
The bashing on dent is FANaticism at its finest.
Ken Strickland
October 9th, 2012
12:14 pm
Over the last 2yrs VanGorder’s DEF philosophy was to go all out stopping the run, and we were very successful. However, it came at the expense of our pass DEF, which routinely ranked at or near the league bottom in most categories. This yr under Nolan, our DEF philosophy has been to stop the pass, and it’s come at the expense of our run DEF. Pick your poison.
If stopping the run was Nolan’s main concern he would have resigned MLB CLofton. If our OFF continues to put pts on the scoreboard, teams will be less likely to rely on running the ball to stay in the gm. However, if our OFF continues to struggle with getting into the endzone early, like it has the last 2gms, teams will run the ball to control the clock and keep our OFF on the sidelines.
After watching our gm and then tuning in the the AINTS/TAINTS gm, I noticed the difference in the speed of DSproales vs JRogers. Rogers doesn’t appear to be anywhere near Sproales as far as speed and quickness, but he’s definitely stronger with simular running instincts and elusiveness. I don’t think he’s as fast as MJDrew, but again, he’s just as instinctive and elusive.
I can’t pinpoint why our OL is still having trouble with run blocking after doing such a great job of improving its pass blocking. With run blocking being the strengths of both RG GReynolds and LT SBaker, you’d think it would be the other way around. But last yr neither player did a good job at either, which prompted their demotions.
Personally, I think we should junk the FB position for now and go with a 1 RB set and 3 WRs. That would definitely spread the DEF and get the LBs more involved in the OFF. I also believe we’re seeing the effects of not having an outstanding Probowl caliber FB like OMughelli in the backfield. Our problems running the ball started immediately after he went down for the season.
Can you imagine where we’d be if we had gone all out like the Bills to sign their FA DE, like some of our fans wanted us to do? I wonder how VanGorder and Mularkey feel after seeing their former team go 5-0 with the same starters on OFF and DEF minus MLB CLofton. I also wonder how PBoudreau feels after seeing how Hill has turned the same OL he had into a very good at protecting MRyan?
Hill accomplished the feat of successfully protecting MRyan while operating strickly in a pass 1st OFF, while Boudreau operated in what was supposed to be a run 1st OFF. Last yr we were forced to become a passing OFF under Broudreau because we couldn’t run the ball.
D3
October 9th, 2012
12:20 pm
MB — I agree with you on the parity in the NFL. That’s something that took me awhile to come to the conclusion of coming from mainly a college fan growing up. The highest team is not THAT far from the bottom teams and that’s why we see upsets on a weekly basis. I’ve come to appreciate a win anyway you can get it, but sometimes (at least in the past), the close games were self-induced.
D3
October 9th, 2012
12:24 pm
BL — Totally concur on Dent. I tried to be as fair as possible considering I’m a GA homer. I think he’ can be OK eventually with more seasoning, since he’s basically a rookie out there. But he does need to improve. However, calling him a bust after a handful of games is definitely ridiculous. I posted what was available (AT ANY POSITION) when he was drafted and there are hardly any names that are making any impact whatsoever.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
12:27 pm
MB
Glad you understand my point. It’s hard to get it through thick skulls, though. Falcons were 1-2 last year in games decided by one touchdown or less. We are 3-0 so far this year. They are focused and BELIEVE in themselves.
waynester
October 9th, 2012
12:28 pm
Ken
If we HAD signed Mario W we’d be lighter in the wallet but I don’t think we’d be a worse team. Would we be better at getting pressure on opposing QBs? John Abe would be eating QBs for lunch with all the attention on Williams. All speculation– but we’ve GOT to find a dominating force on the outside to replace Abe soon–within the next season or so, even if JA continues to play at a high level, since age is an opponent most (other than TonyG) can’t defeat…..
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
12:31 pm
waynester
I do not think Ken’s point was we would be a worst team. It’s more that he wasn’t worth the massive amounts of money, and that we have our own talent here. If we would have signed Mario, we wouldn’t have any cash left to resign Abraham, Decoud, Grimes, ect.
Ken Strickland
October 9th, 2012
12:37 pm
D3-As we’ve all recently witnessed as Falcon fans, sometimes the difference in winning and losing, and even the differences between teams, is often a matter of proper scheme, approach, and coaching, not just talent.
snacktastic
October 9th, 2012
12:44 pm
Thoughts:
-Home/away alternation aside, I think the schedule has worked out favorably for the Birds. We’ve had two ugly games in a row, but it’s good that they’ve been against sub-par teams whose flaws we could exploit and beat in the end. We’ve also had a few statement wins to give us some confidence. With the Raiders coming up, we should be able to handle them with ease and then cruise into the bye with some momentum, get Peters back, and fix our mistakes.
-Gonzo is probably gone after this year regardless of the result. He’s having a great season and expressed his desire to go out on top, so another year might be tempting fate.
-The drops worry me, but I don’t think it’s a problem that will hang around.
-Run defense is a pretty glaring problem, considering that it’s in direct contrast to our awesome pass defense. Not sure if it’s a personnel problem or a scheme problem, though.
-On the plus side, the defense did shut the Redskins offense out in the first half.
-How ’bout that O-line?
Ken Strickland
October 9th, 2012
12:45 pm
WAYNESTER-If we had signed DE MWilliams, we’d not only be lighter in the wallet, we’d be lighter in talent as well. There’s no way we could have signed him and resigned al of the players we resigned. In fact, JAbraham would have likely been one of the casualties of us signing MWilliams, along with CBs BGrime and DRobinson. We’d have to get rid of the big contracts, especially on DEF.
D3
October 9th, 2012
12:57 pm
Ken — You got that right!
Coop
October 9th, 2012
1:08 pm
Hello Cage – Great to be 5-0. Team played with mettle and overcame a day where they weren’t at their best. After Cousins hit Moss, I never once was worried that Rayn wouldn’t drive down the field to win the game. The team definitely has a different feel and attitude that I am definitely liking. CMS gets credit for being more diverse, less predictable, and letting his guys make plays. [Though we all knew after that 1st INT he was gonna run 3 times up the middle and punt it right back to Cousins, right?].
The Cage is filled with great insight and I enjoy reading it, even if I have to scroll through the garbage sometimes. Regardless, even when you’re 5-0, it’s fair and prudent to express concerns that you might have. I know you’re never supposed to complain, but… well that’s just stupid!
We have some issues that I hope we address. Otherwise we are certainly vulnerable as the year progresses. To date, it seems we are no longer ABLE to run the ball effectively. OK, our passing game has gotten us there and I think most of us prefer putting the ball in Ryan’s hands versus Turners for the most part. My concern is that the OL is an issue. When we play teams that can get after the QB and take away our passing game, our O could get completely shut down.
Add to that our inability to stop the run and I can see the Giants beating us 24-2 again.
So, I’m glad we are trying new things to help the OL, but playing Hawley and Johnson as TEs and FBs is pretty damaging statement on Clabo in my eyes. At the same time, I saw Walker, Jerry, AND Babs playing at the same time on multiple defensive plays and the Skins still running all over us. So, you can say Dent needs time and h’s not a bust (fair), but it doesn’t mean that WE CAN’T STOP THE RUN. So while he’s figuring it out, we still have that issue.
Winning formulas are great (use high powered O to build huge lead and force oppossing team to abandon run), until it fails (oppossing D sacks QB because OL stinks and you fall behind so now oppossing O runs the ball down your throat). So far, we have been able to execute our formula or overcome when lesser teams stopped it temporarily.
But it forshadows another epic collapse in the playoffs. It’s week 5 and most of us can clearly see the weaknesses on this team… and we aren’t being paid the big buck that OCs and DCs get to beat us in the playoffs.
With all that said, the one factor that is different to me this year is the mettle, moxy, attitude, etc. Though others discount this factor, it has won us the last two games. As much hell as I give Smitty, he deserves the credit for this massive improvement. We’ll win this week and go into the bye 6-0… just like I predicted.
Ken Strickland
October 9th, 2012
1:10 pm
BIG LOU-You nailed it, both on your previous post and your assessment on my meaning. Some of our fans have to start realizing what other teams already realize. We’re an elite team, and regardless of their record, teams are going to play us tough and go all out to defeat us. Defeating us now gives the lesser teams creditability.
Nolan constructed and schemed our DEF to compete with the type of teams we’ll most likely meet in the playoffs, like the Eagles, Packers, Giants, AINTS/TAINTS, Lions, which are basically passing teams. We lost DT CPeters, and we haven’t missed a beat with PJerry. When Peters does return, we’ll be even deeper and more talented at DT.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but we’ve see our CBs and OLBs make more big hits and create more big plays in 5gms than former MLB CLofton made in his 4yrs here. It’s really made a big differece.
D3
October 9th, 2012
1:35 pm
Coop — How ’bout that Georgia game baby! Jesus Christ, will we ever get rid of Mark “Choke” Richt?
Coop
October 9th, 2012
1:45 pm
D3 – I would be embarassed to admit this, except I’ve come to expect it from Richt. When we went down 21-0, I turned the game off. I had no confidence he could lead them back.
We’re stuck with him, because of the idiotic logic that he’s better than what we used to have.
Paddy O
October 9th, 2012
1:46 pm
I’ve thought we were close to elite the last 3 years. I’ve been pushing the MR2 elite train (top 8 in league for about 3 years – although Eli had been behind MR2 until this year). I was utterly impressed with our D against Denver & SD. I suspect Nolan concluded the next two teams were rather weak on passing, and he could thus put more responsibility on Dent – who needs game time. We shall see. The one glaring failure of the season was the O line play against Carolina; and a bit of timid offense play against Washington. However, we are 5-0; but, as Matty B says – that don’t mean we’ll thrive in the playoffs. I see the Eagles, Cowboys and Giants games being big for us – along with the 2 NO games; that is 5 of our last 11 being good tests. I’d like to think we avoid failure. If JJ gets over his drops, we come much closer to the 35 per game threshold.
Coop
October 9th, 2012
1:47 pm
How about FFL? Not top shabby for a guy who missed the draft.
D3
October 9th, 2012
2:03 pm
Coop — You got that right. My whole family are Dawgs and we all expected to get beat, but even I was a little shocked about getting embarrassed and humiliated on that level, but you called it, that loser mentality that many UGA fans have. “He’s a good guy, He’s better than before, Do you want Goff or Donnan back? Look at Tennessee?……excuse-make, excuse-make, excuse-make.”
waynester
October 9th, 2012
2:10 pm
Guess i misunderstood what you meant. Obviously we didn’t (and don’t) have very much below the cap–my concern is for the future at DE. Even if our DC’s philosophy foresees QB pressures coming from a lot of different guys(that’s good) other than J Abe our Ends leave a lot to be desired(that’s not good). Can we win with the guys we have now? Obviously, YES! Could our “D” be better with a realistic threat opposite Abe? Again, I say yes. Houston has the right idea (IMHO) stacking the deck with young talent in Wade’s 3/4 that can make a QB wake up with cold sweats in the middle of the night….Still dreaming of fielding a dominant “Gritz Blitz” defense again….
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
2:25 pm
Ken
No problem, brother. I know where you are coming from.
Coop
“Add to that our inability to stop the run and I can see the Giants beating us 24-2 again.”
Actually, the Falcons were stout defending the run last year. Most teams destroyed us in the passing game–so did the Giants. I rather us have a weak run defense(which isn’t really weak, by the way–it’s just them HAVING to run against us every down, so the numbers will be higher), and have a great pass defense. There is a reason why all the QBs who have played against us so far has had poor ratings. As for the run defense being weak, if you remove the last two games against DYNAMIC QBs, it was doing pretty well. No offense is going to beat you with 120 yards rushing, especially when your offense averages close to 30 points a game. Point is, this team (defensively) is NOTHING like last year. That in itself will make a huge difference in the playoffs.
As for the offense, I agree. We need to establish the run. Yet, if you have noticed, we haven’t been running the ball much at all. So, it’s sort of a pick your poison. Do you want more touches for Turner or do you want a dink/dunk offense like the Patriots? As Big Ray stated previously in this blog, Turner is going to be our 4th quarter bruiser. As defenses wear down later in the game, he will gain more yards. Turner has scored touchdowns in the last three games IN THE SECOND HALF.
Do you notice the difference between last year and this year? Last year, teams purposely stacked the box to stop Turner from running, so Matt Ryan had to beat him with his arm. Now, they are stacking the secondary, daring us to run the ball. So far every game this season, when they do one thing, we gash them with another way. Teams are not going to shut down ATL easily. This team is not as one dimensional as last year. But, to think ATL is going to score 30 plus points against every team (even a sub-par passing defense in the NFL) is setting yourself up for disappointment.
“Winning formulas are great (use high powered O to build huge lead and force oppossing team to abandon run), until it fails (oppossing D sacks QB because OL stinks and you fall behind so now oppossing O runs the ball down your throat). So far, we have been able to execute our formula or overcome when lesser teams stopped it temporarily.”
Or when players drop passes that hit their chest, which of resulted in a 1st and goal(the first drive against the Redskins with Julio Jones). So, actually, they haven’t executed crap. The game plans are fine, but the players are not making the plays. The events of Sunday had nothing to do with how their defense prepared for the Falcons, the Falcons screwed themselves up with boneheaded plays. The O-line had nothing to do with the poor play Sunday.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
2:36 pm
Houston has the right idea (IMHO) stacking the deck with young talent in Wade’s 3/4 that can make a QB wake up with cold sweats in the middle of the night….Still dreaming of fielding a dominant “Gritz Blitz” defense again….
Waynester, you better believe that our defense scared QBs and opposing offenses just like the Texans do, but in a different way. The Texans have a STOUT running defense, and tremendous pass rush, but their secondary is suspect. So, when they play GB, they will get torched. I am calling that game a loss already. Hold me to it.
But, the Falcons, teams have a different fear. They are afraid of interceptions. Receivers are scared to catch the ball because they know Dunta/Asante/Weatherspoon is coming to lay the wood(have you seen the dropped passes against us?). QBs are studying tape late into the night trying to figure out how Mike Nolan is disguising his blitz packages/coverages. They are an opportunistic defense. Yes, they will allow you to get yards, but they also take huge chances to get the big play. The Falcons remind me of Chicago’s defense. Also, the Falcons committed three sacks Sunday. Yeah, it isn’t because of the pass rush only, but that’s still getting pressure.
The Texans and Falcons have different philosophy on defenses, but you better believe the league is giving them the same amount of respect overall.
Coop
October 9th, 2012
2:38 pm
Big Lou – You’re right, the OL is awesome…
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
3:07 pm
Coop
Let’s try to have civil banter here. I never said that the O-line was perfect, and in my previous posts I even said the Eagles would be the first true test. I am saying that the O-line did a great job protecting Matt Ryan against the Redskins, and the run game was decent(we didn’t run the ball much). Lack of execution and mistakes is what made the game closer than it should be.
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
3:13 pm
Turner averaged 4.5 per carry last year, he is averaging 4.4. You are right about MT in the 4th quarter. On his TD, the DBs were afraid to tackle him. Read smittys QA on the other blog. We are pretty much impossible to stop if we execute. I find it very interesting that Washington took way our deep game. When teams respecting our deep game, we have them right where we want them.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
3:14 pm
Let me point of a few things when I say POOR EXECUTION:
1. Remove the pick-six from Ryan: Score would have been 24-10.
2. Remove the fumble by Ryan that lead to a field goal: Score would have been 24-7.
3. Remove the boneheaded play by the secondary against Curt Cousins: Would have been a shut out.
The Falcons also left points on the field by two dropped pass by Julio Jones(one was more PI, that wasn’t called–don’t blame him for that one).
Game could have easily been 31-3 if the play-makers executed their opportunities correctly–just saying.
Coop
October 9th, 2012
3:15 pm
Big Lou – I am being civil. I’m also pointing out that lining up 8 OL to keep Matt ryan clean and open holes for the run game is not what I call optimal. Hell, it sucks. There is a major issue at the RT spot, period. When you have to sacrifice a WR, TE, or RB to insert one r two more linemen to protect your QB, you got issues.
The coaching staff is doing the right thing in that they are protecting Ryan. If it take 8 linemen, then you use 8 linemen. My point is, that doesn’t mean the OL doesn’t have issues. It exemplifies that the OL has issues. Just like defending the run with 3 DTs and still not stopping a rookie 6th round pick. That’s an issue. Oh, and Denver and KC ran fairly well against us too.
The Falcons are great, playing well, and having a wonderful season. But they have shown two vulnerabilities (IMO) that has nothing to do with execution. That’s OL play and the ability to stop the run.
To me, that’s concerning.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
3:17 pm
MB
I agree. I am surprised they did not run the ball more often, because obviously they were pulling the LBs out for coverage. Yet, I felt that it was more Matt Ryan changing the plays and trying to make a home run play. When they settled down and ran the ball in the second half, it opened up our passing attack even more.
Coop
October 9th, 2012
3:19 pm
D3 – Back to Richt… Walterfootball.com has 4 UGA defensive players being drafted in the first 36 picks…
So much wasted talent goes through that school.
BL – What would the score have been if we had thrown to Rodgers instead of Hawley? That’s probably Hawley’s fault for dropping. Poor execution instead of poor play calling, right? Hell, we should throw to all our Centers. Then we’ll have them fooled!
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
3:20 pm
It is the classic argument of scheme vs execution. I am an execution guy, the NFL is the copy cat league. There has not been a new idea in 20 years, all you can do it put in wrinkles and hope to catch the other team off guard in order to “out scheme” them, but they figure out exactly what you are doing. and know how to stop it soon enough…. But execution is what it is all about, getting 11 guys lined up correctly, everyone knowing their assignments. It is like a symphony, it is not the music you play, but how you play it. Everyone has to hit the right note at the right time….Funny I use that anologoy, because our D relies on timing. All our blitzes, coverage schemes are timing.
D3
October 9th, 2012
3:23 pm
BL — Good points on the execution issue. Those 3 plays alone made the game seem a whole lot closer than it really was. I just hope we’re not playing “up or down” to our competition.
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
3:24 pm
Can you tell me who is NOT having problems on their offensive lines?
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
3:27 pm
Coop
There is a difference between concerning and predicting a playoff loss from it. To me, you are reaching.
Also, they did not have that set up every play. If it was, then you would be correct. To me, it was just a package they were using to confuse the defense from guarding the deep ball. When you see a RB in the back field with extra offensive linemen/TEs… you think run play. There were multiple plays where they had 4 wide-out sets:
1. The touchdown to Julio Jones.
2. 29 yard pass to Julio Jones(Tony was set up to block, but only chipped and went to middle of field).
3. 20 plus yard pass to Tony Gonzalez.
Point is, that they didn’t do it all game, so I do not think it was meant for help/protection, as much as it was for confusing the defense that was locking down our receivers.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
3:31 pm
“What would the score have been if we had thrown to Rodgers instead of Hawley? That’s probably Hawley’s fault for dropping. Poor execution instead of poor play calling, right? Hell, we should throw to all our Centers. Then we’ll have them fooled!”
We did throw to Rodgers on a check down play, and guess what? HE DROPPED THE BALL! So did Tuner.
The whole point of throwing to Hawley(if he made a catch), is to force a defender to guard him or keep an eye on him later in the game, so we would have more one versus one opportunities down the field.
This is, again, where arrogance/emotional opinions come in. The reasoning behind it makes sense, and if he caught the ball… it would have helped us in the long run. I am not saying it is a play we need to make constantly. It’s just a play to throw off the defense.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
3:34 pm
D3
I think they are to an extent. But, in all reality, every team does. I really think it’s a lack of focus, more than anything.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
3:35 pm
Matty Bicep
I agree. There is a difference between these coaches and the previous ones. I can see the adjustments made during and after the game we play. It is evident in Matt’s progression this year/how the defense if preforming against the pass. Players need to execute, plain and simple. It has been this way the past couple of game on offense.
Coop
October 9th, 2012
3:47 pm
BL – OK, logically speaking your defense of the Hawley plays has merit. If there is a successful play to an unlikely player, then the D has to accpount for him the next time, potentially leading to a more advantageous matchup elsewhere.
However, though logically sound, aren’t we over-thinking things? We have the best WR tandem in football, a HOF TE (who may be having a career year), a 3 time 1300 yard tailback, a change of pace back, a damn good slot receiver, and 4 other skill position players we rarely ever see (Smih, Cone, Snelling, and the other WR I can’t name cause he NEVER plays)… but putting Hawley in at FB and trying to hit him in the flat is a good play?!??!? You call me arrogant and emotional, I’ll call you delusional. We have so many weapons, we should never have need to throw to the OC who’s playing FB.
You are correct on the drops. But just like your friend, just because one thing went poorly doesn’t proove your point that it’s only about execution. there are some scheme and personnel issues. I don’t believe they’ll keep us out of the playoffs, but I do beleive they’ll be exposed. Question is, can we overcome them or fix them???
Coop
October 9th, 2012
3:49 pm
BL – I completely concur that coaching is way better. More in game adjustments. Ryan is clearly improved and team seems hungry and determined.
Paddy O
October 9th, 2012
3:57 pm
YOU’LL notice the execution guys here trend to defend Mike Smith (BL, MB); while the cage last year commented heavily on the demand that the Falcons play flawless football to succeed under last years 2 coordinators – there may be a connection in this double coincidence. Personally, I don’t expect our players to perform perfectly; as they are competing against opponents who also have skills. Thus, last 3 years prior to this one, when we consistently ran Turner between the tackles on two consecutive plays to start a possession and left Ryan & RW84 with 3rd and 7; that increased the pressure to perform flawlessly (this was a failure of scheme). However, I thought the goal was to wear out the defense so Mike Turner could run roughshod over tired defenses in the 4th quarter. With Welcome Back, they have realized that defenses get just as tired running around after WR and attempting to sack the QB, while that QB eats your secondary alive with the various weapons at his disposal. And, that same Mike Turner is fresher in the 4th quarter under this scheme – so, all win. PLus, Snelling and Quizz are just as dangerous and Turner in the screen pass game. But, attempting to toss it to Hawley appears to be an example of getting too cute.
Paddy O
October 9th, 2012
4:00 pm
Big Lou – your need to remind yourself of your apparent vacuous claim to desire civility. Just because somebody does not agree with you, should not prompt you to assert “where arrogance/emotional opinions come” – that is classical marginalization of anothers opinion, and it most circles amounts to condescension.
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
4:01 pm
I liked the play to Hawley in just that we put it on tape, it could pay dividends in a future game as the MLB might have to account for him on a short yardage play and can give us a little advantage.
I really was not too concerned about Hawley dropping the ball, I was kinda glad he did. For I think he if caught it, the chance of him fumbling it were pretty good in that a slow guy who does not normally handle the ball is a perfect target for a DB or LB to rip it out.
Coop
October 9th, 2012
4:11 pm
MB – Your thought makes sense, but I side with Paddy O. I htink it’s too cute. Plus, I’m with you… glad he dropped it versus fumbling. In the end, I really think an opposing D would just ignore him and take their chances. Maybe if he had caught it… but if I’m a DC and see him in the backfield, I’m thinking he’s a blocking FB and playing that percentage. If he beats me in the flat, OK. But I’m not putting my MLB on him. It’s like splitting Sanchez out to WR when Teebow is under center. No way I beleive they are throwing it to Sanchez.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
4:29 pm
Paddy O
No offense, but if you are not going to read all the posts, then don’t chime in. I made that comment due to Coop’s obvious sarcasm towards my points. That is dismissive and arrogant. My comment was justified.
As for your argument towards execution, I agree. The players have to get used to different schemes. But, in the same light, you cannot say coaching is the issue. That’s somewhat hypocritical. These players are paid millions to do their job. If the play puts them in the position to make a play… they need to make it. Talent =/= results always. That’s why work horses like Jerry Rice and Tony G are the greatest of all time.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
4:31 pm
Paddy O
Don’t forget Ken Strickland and Dhunt. They usually agree with player execution.
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
4:38 pm
Coop
Did you notice those plays to Hawley were after the fact the Falcons were struggling to move down the field? After JJ dropped a potential first and goal situation? They only ran the play twice. And both times, he was wide open. The rest of the time they took shots down the field, and checked down to Turner/Rodgers(who dropped, too). I just don’t understand how two plays puts the coaching at fault, when even our talent was not getting open.
I agree that if there is a huge underlining issue, it will make its way to the light. With the schedule of the Gmen, Eagles, Saints, Cowboys… it will rear its ugly head before the playoffs.
Coop
October 9th, 2012
4:45 pm
Big Lou – Can’t have it both ways. If it’s on players to execute, then you don’t need cute gimmicks. Hell, I’d rather you fake a punt if you want a gimmick play. That was a questionable coaching call. Didn’t say the coaches were doing a horrible job. In fact, I’ve praised them this year much more than I predicted. Unlike your portrait of me, I never claimed anyone (player or coach) has to be perfect everytime. I just don’t want to be predictable or overly conservative. That and some questionable (to me) draft choices is all I’ve complained about. All the while, praising the team for their overall great play.
It is possible to be supportive and happy while maintaining objectivity and expressing opions of concern.
I have no issue with your points on execution. You are 100% correct. If we execute every play correctly, we cannot be stopped. But we’re not going to. The enemy gets a vote too.
Just because I say the Hawley play is stupid, which I beleive it is, doesn’t ean I disagree that Julio shouldn’t have dropped the ball. They’re independent thoughts. One PLAYER didn’t execute, the COACHES drew up a dumb play.
Wings
October 9th, 2012
4:50 pm
Big Lou,
Do you not understand that when you call people names you are insulting them? ie knee jerking reactions, something Nancie, where arrogance/emotional opinions, etc.
In this blog, everyone’s opinions are equal. They are opinions and the facts may be wrong. Disagree with the facts but don’t get personal as why the opinion is made.
You have some good posts but your desire to “classify” others with name calling is unacceptable to most of us. You always resort to that kind of posting and who the h@ll are you to think you know more than Coop or Paddy O or anyone else.
D3
October 9th, 2012
5:14 pm
Check this BS out………….
Dungy’s comments are timely, because even though the league is shifting to becoming more of a passing operation, some of the top teams in 2012 are running the ball down defense’s throats.
Four teams – San Francisco (311 yards), New England (251), New York Giants (243) and Chicago (214)– rushed for more than 200 yards on Sunday and all of them, like the Falcons, are in first place.
Turner’s 324 yards is 15th in the league. The team has been trying to cut Turner’s carries for the last couple of seasons.
He’s averaging 14.6 carries per game, which projects out to 233 carries for the season.
Turner had 301 carries last season, 334 in 2010 and 376 in 2008.
In each of those 300-plus carry seasons, Turner rushed for more than 1,300 yards. He’s on pace to rush for 1,037 yards.
While Dungy wants to see some more Turner, fellow NBC analyst Rodney Harrison liked that Ryan recovered from his interception and fumble to lead the Falcons to victory over the Redskins.
“This is the Matt Ryan that we didn’t see last year, coming back from these types of mistakes,” Harrison said.
ESPN’s analyst Mike Ditka still has a bad taste in his mouth from the Falcons’ playoff loss to the New York Giants.
“Unless you win in the playoffs, you’re going to be known as next year’s champions,” Ditka said when asked if he could trust these Falcons.
The Falcons may be 5-0, but clearly they are not winning in the national broadcast court of public opinion.
I get Ditka’s comment, but I’m so GD sick of hearing that bulls!t I can scream. Who gives a flying f–k if you win in the playoffs but don’t win a Super Bowl? And it’s Week 6, but yet you have clowns bringing that sh!t up all the time. Does it make it easier for Ravens fans because they “win” in the playoffs, but never get to the big dance? (speaking of Flacco / Harbaugh Era).
And the “get Michael Turner involved” garbage is preposterous. Comparing us to the Giants (Bradshaw), 49ers (Gore), Bears (Forte). The New England is fair comparison and how has being one of the top rushing teams in the league worked out the last few years?
The Bears and 49ers run the ball so much because they have subpar, game-managing QBs. Let’s see if the Patriots continue to take the ball out of Brady’s hands that much. The Giants run because they have a pretty good (but really old) OL, and Manning just had like 400 yards passing the other day……………… Stupid!
D3
October 9th, 2012
5:16 pm
RE: Heated Arguments — D@mn ya’ll, you know we’re 5-0, right?
Paddy O
October 9th, 2012
5:22 pm
MB – I agree that it is possible to draw off a potential defender from one our genuine playmakers. But as indicated, I’d prefer we use Snelling or Quizz in this role, as he will be more proficient at catching, and both have shown adequate prowess on the blocking front.
JB FALCON
October 9th, 2012
5:29 pm
Wings, I’ll amen that 4:50 post as a general rule for all.
JJ
October 9th, 2012
5:30 pm
Damn, reminds me of my EX bitching all the time…oh well were allpassionate about our falcons!
Coop, congrats on FFL, D3 hardly ever talks about it…but I bet Ill get him to after this weekend!!!
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
5:30 pm
Wings
Again, you chime in and defend your brethren when there is no need to. My comments made were in response to others’ actions to my responses. It’s always the same with some veterans in the cage. I make a comment towards them, the dismissively make a sarcastic comment like they are the all knowing.
Yet, I get along with Big Ray, Seminole, Ken, JB Falcon, D3 and others just fine. Are you sure I am the on here? I am confused here. The other day, you accused me of attacking Unca’ Bob, when Big Ray had to chime in and let you know I wasn’t. I don’t care if you like me, but stop instigating crap on this board. I am not even talking to you.
Coop
That’s fair. You are right, it does go both ways. I just was rubbed the wrong way with the playoff loss prediction five games into the season. All in all, we both have valid points. I guess we will see the real issue after the harder part of the schedule.
Paddy O
October 9th, 2012
5:38 pm
Big Lou – I had read the timeline of comments. If you can’t live up to your own asserted standards, that gives the impression you are a bit hypocritical (2 wrongs generally do not make a right). typically, if you say something stupid/biased/condescending, you’ll get a sarcastic retort from somebody. Coop and SP are the most negative guys on here. (However, for pure acerbicness, Honest Abe took the cake) Ken S WAS pretty negative, but Nolan and Welcome Back have solved most of his negative problems. Personally, I’m 99% sure most of the folks here are sharper than I regarding football – which makes me winning the draft contest 2 years ago pretty ironic – Akeem Dent got me the trophy!; but, I have decent ability to observe cause & effect. Dhunt is a tougher guy to read. In general, I am far more critical of coaches based on long term bad habits – Ken S called it SMITTY BALL, I called it the Molasses Gang due to our glacial in game adjustments the last 3 years. From our limited observation of JJ, I’d say he has a developing problem with drops. I’ve never though MR2 had much of a problem – either holding the ball too long, or scrambling. I’ve also defended Turner when others were ready to kick him to the road – hard to dismiss 1300 yard running season. Our WR corps is the best in football. I think Snelling is underutilized; and, I have apologized for running down DeCoud – it appears he was profoundly misused by BVG. I too think Bierman would work well as a LB, and wish Sidbury would get more playing time. I also think there is an apprenticeship program with Smitty, but the Falcon KGB is tough to get good info out of. From here, considering how little we knew of Bakers 2011 injuries, it is highly likely that Clabo has a similar tough injury he is playing through. After the Carolina game, I suggested we use Quizz & Snelling the I, let Snelling provide chipping outside help for Clabo. We shall see. Being 5.- 0 is pretty fun!
JJ
October 9th, 2012
5:58 pm
D3, Are you really in LAST PLACE (12TH) in our bird cage FFL???
…(clearing throat)…war eagles in 10th…keep it on downlow…
D3 vs JJ this weekend, smackdown is coming!!!
Big Lou
October 9th, 2012
6:01 pm
Paddy O
Define stupid? Stupid/Biased in THEIR opinion, right?
A lot of individuals thought it was STUPID/BIASED to keep Decoud… and look what he has done under Mike Nolan. Again, calling a comment stupid/biased doesn’t make the others correct. Just because I do not agree with the norm of negativity, even though I have been as critical as most on here, does not make me less knowledgeable. I try to bring an objective view to the comments made.
As for Ken Strickland, yes… last year he called it SMITTY BALL. Then after we got DK and Mike Nolan, he realized it was not Smith, but MULARKEY BALL. If anything, Ken is the biggest defender of our coaching right now– more than me.
I do agree they should use Snelling more on check-down plays. I feel he would be a better option than Turner, since he has better elusiveness. I am still worried about Rodger’s inconsistency, though. It is his second year, so like JJ, I expect mistakes.
D3
October 9th, 2012
6:02 pm
JJ — Man, just a bad year. Made a HUGE mistake and didn’t draft better running backs early in a year with really crappy RB pool. I’ll never take a TE that early again. Never before and never again. Yes, bad-bad-bad.
JJ
October 9th, 2012
6:02 pm
Was going to jump off this mtn in maggie valley after LRD luck with RG3, but then I saw D3 on the schedule…thank you lord…no gimmies in ffl unless its the hotspurs!!!
D3
October 9th, 2012
6:38 pm
JJ — Wise are the men that run their mouths both before the draft about how awesome they’re going to be and then subsequently when they’re 1-4 just like me.
JJ
October 9th, 2012
6:43 pm
lol, there you go…a little smack. Now quit crying in your beer like a little sorority girl from UGA and work the waivers wires, work the trades and man up!!!!!!!!
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 9th, 2012
6:48 pm
@D3 5:14 pm comment:
D3, I understand and share in your frustrations. On the flip-side…if we want them (pundits) to shut-up…we gotta put-up.
IMO, win a playoff game, or two.
JJ
October 9th, 2012
6:48 pm
D3, after all these yrs you know wise and I have never met. Consequently, I will repeat my SarahB championship this yr!!! Thin air up here in the mtns…lol.
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
7:12 pm
I do hate the playoff crap, because I think it comes out of the “should have kept Vick” game. But it is what it is, no sense getting jacked about it, either we are gonna get in the playoff and win, or we are gonna come up short. What anyone “says” now does not mean a dang thing…actually, it could be good for CS to keep focus. As I said, I expect MR2 to be around another 10 years, and qualify for the playoffs another 6-8 times…if I am right, they will win one. Personally, the biggest threat to him no ever winning one is him not getting there.
D3
October 9th, 2012
7:12 pm
JJ — I would talk sh!t about your Panthers, but it’s not even like shooting fish in a barrel, it’s as easy as just looking at a barrel.
Paddy O
October 9th, 2012
7:34 pm
Big Lou – dude, you need to stop being so sensitive. Im sure 100% of the folks on here have said something that somebody else thought was profoundly stupid. That is life. However, since it appears YOU are highly sensitive, it would seem you should be far more cautious with others’ feelings, and your own vocabulary. Don’t try to control the conversation – simply contribute. It is difficult to demand objectivity when discussing a sports team with fellow fanatics. I don’t see much knee jerk here – especially when you only discuss 16 games per year, and if we are lucky and MR2 plays a decade, that is only 160 focuses of discussion (not counting drafting). Unique instance can easily be perceived as a trend – some a right, some wrong – the Carolina game with the 7 sacks appears to be an aberration – but, it worries the bleep out of me. Anybody heard anything from Big Ray? Hope he is doing OK after all that surgery. I hope everybody has a nice night, and sometime tonight we ENJOY being 5-0! GO FALCONS!!
Paddy O
October 9th, 2012
7:37 pm
the playoff failure – sadly due to it having occurred in 3 consecutive games, and the only 3 games MR2 has played in – it makes our team suspect for being failures in high pressure games. If we go conservative, we could be in trouble. I still remember that Eagles game in 2010 – I thought we’d stomp the manure out of the Eagles – blam, blam, blam – game over and we look like road kill. If we employ SMITTY BALL in the playoffs again, we’ll have a nice size hangover. D3 – nice article again, BTW.
Paddy O
October 9th, 2012
7:38 pm
MB – if Ryan is here another 10 years, I’m hoping for 10 playoff appearances!
JJ
October 9th, 2012
7:44 pm
My panthers???? What you talkin bout willis? (tv sitcom)
Im on vaca up here in the mtns but live in alph/roswell…but you know this.
Why would you think Im a panther fan?……
Did draft Owens last wk just to block LRD ,sorry buddy, but thats not it.
hmmmmmmm……………………………………………………………..
Got it, your delusional in anticipation of all the smack coming your way before and especially AFTER my war eagles kick butt over your hotspurs…and what the F with a bball team name???
It’s all good my friend, you know I love to smack a little football.
Same goes to BL, wabe and whoever else is bitcharguing, never take anything personal on a blog…but we all will roll down ptree soon, first rd on me!!!!
JJ
October 9th, 2012
7:53 pm
Ahh, light bulb is slow…my GSU panthers…got it…never had a team there back in the dark ages but yes, Ive heard they have a sports team down at the concrete campus…lol…told u about wise and I..!!!
falcon21
October 9th, 2012
8:14 pm
LOl JJ, I was starting to think that JJ forgot what College he went to,
JJ
October 9th, 2012
8:17 pm
f21, was thinkin nfl panthers, no panthers at gsu in the 80’s!!!
falcon21
October 9th, 2012
8:20 pm
Yeah, I kinda figured that out. Just joking my friend.
D3
October 9th, 2012
8:28 pm
JJ — Enjoy those mountains brother. We went camping this summer in Bryson City. It was awesome. Some beautiful country up there. Took the little ones tubing. It was fantastic. My brother took me on a “short” mountain bike ride that was like 12 miles. I was so pissed at him about halfway through because all I could think of was “I should be on my @ss enjoying the outdoors, drinking barley pops on my vacation.” Hotspurs after the Tottenham Hotspurs of the English Premiere League (soccer). I know, go ahead and laugh.
Paddy — Oooh-wee, I remember that @ss stomping, but I think the 2009 one was way worse. Remember, that’s when Pick made his “comeback.” What an F’n debacle. I put that up there with worst losses under HCMS.
SOMEBODY — I have tuned out about 98.99% of all the media “MTV Sports” garbage since 2010, but every now and then it just pisses me off. I do get it, though. I like what M-Pete said the other day about how hard our atrocious history is to overcome.
JJ
October 9th, 2012
8:28 pm
f21, need to join our sarahb league. We have enough hard core bird cagers to have 2 -10 or 2-12 league teams andthe winner ofeach league goes at it on superbowl. Just a thought.
But D3 and SW would not like 20+ above them in the standings…
Coop
October 9th, 2012
8:30 pm
MB – You are correct that we shouldn’t care what the pundits say… I know you’re right. But I can’t let it go either. It bugs me. I want to see my team on sportscenter and talked about positively all over radio. I know It’s stupid, but it feels like they are discounting Atlanta, therefore the South, therefore all of us. Not rational, but I just want the Falcons to cram it down their throats.
D3
October 9th, 2012
8:33 pm
As UB says, the pillows calling my name, but leave you with yet another reason to love those Atlanta Falcons and Arthur Blank…………
http://www.ajc.com/gallery/sports/football/falcons-visit-area-schools/g5kB/#2766900
Look how happy those kids are……
Nite ‘all!
Be nice
Cage Brothers!
D3
October 9th, 2012
8:35 pm
JJ — I leave you with a final note………….
JJ >> Titles = 1
D3 >> Titles = 1
Reality bites don’t it?
JJ
October 9th, 2012
9:05 pm
Reality BITES only if your satisfied with your past. Your like NO and Bressus, thk the lord you won one.
Im going for the repeat MR. MATH teacher…j/k buddy!
JB FALCON
October 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
Sometimes I get more out of the cage by just reading. I’ve read everything from drafting Tommy Nobis to the next game that we haven’t even played. If this ain’t what the NFL is all about I don’t know what is.
We have the best combination of different opinions, leaving nothing left to scrutinize, that ESPN could ever put together.
I’m a little concerned about the absence of Big Ray, hope he’s still doing well. D3, you have his e-m address so maybe you could find something out? Also, SW, hasn’t been around but he’s probably busy with the weather.
You can’t pick your relatives but you can pick your friends and you guys are a great place to hang out.
Now, We are 5-0 for the first time in the history of the Atlanta Falcons and let’s keep this ball rolling (if that what it takes. “Matt Ryan rolls it over to the Burner but it didn’t touch the ground!”)
The Raiders are our next victim so let’s do our research and come up with some predictions. My first reaction is WIN but I haven’t looked into what they will bring. It don’t really matter because to be the best you have to beat the best, so? Who’s next?
Ken Strickland
October 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
Has anyone noticed how little we’ve used the the NO HUDDLE, especially after the 1st gm? With Koetter’s excellent play calling, there has been little need to switch to it in order to jump start the OFF. Our average PPG isn’t that much higher than last yrs 25.2PPG. However, the difference in our record and the way we’ve played can be attributed to our very much improved pass DEF and pass rush.
We’ve had players capable of making plays for the last 2-3yrs, but our DEF scheme, approach, and system seldom put them in position to make many plays. TDeCoud 4 INTs in just 5gms equals last yrs total.
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
Coop, we gotta wear it, it is not fair, we are a victim our own success actually. Funny though, because Tony Dungy of all people know what it is like to wear a label….but it will just make it all that more sweet….
Ken Strickland
October 9th, 2012
9:49 pm
JB FALCON-I am sooo glad you brought up the absence of BIG RAY AND SEMINOLE WARRIOR, because I’ve missed them as well. I rely heavily on these blogs and you CAGERS to get me through the day. I’m dealing with family situations that are very stressful and at the same time disappointing. How do you deal with 2 extremely stubborn, and suddenly very vindictive, parents in their 80s? Both need around the clock care, yet both are battling each other for control based on issues that took place yrs ago.
I’m caught in the middle of 2 elderly parents, both of whom want to control everything, even though they can barely control their own bowels. Can you imagine an 85yr old mother, who’s still recovering from a recent stroke, and a stepfather with advanced Parkinson’s disease, thinking they’re competent enough to run the show indepently? Anything that I say, that doesn’t adhere to what they want, is met with I DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT.
I’ve gotten to the point where I am sick and tired of hearing my name called every few mins, really. Anyway, back to football and our beloved Falcons.
D3
October 9th, 2012
10:04 pm
Was in bed, but saw this and had to put it up………..
Since the 2008 season, the Falcons are tied with Baltimore for the second-best record in the league at 48-21. Only New England (51-18) has been better.
Smith’s career winning percentage through 69 games (.696) is tied for 10th all-time with Harbaugh and Joe Gibbs, according to STATS Inc.
The nine coaches ahead of Smith are George Halas, Paul Brown, George Seifert, Chuck Knox, Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, George Allen, John Madden, Blanton Collier and Potsy Clark.
Just d@mn………….that’s impressive.
D3
October 9th, 2012
10:08 pm
Ken — Best wishes and thoughts my friend. You are in my thoughts buddy. Got a similar situation with a member of my family as well, so I know the struggle you’re going through.
falcon21
October 9th, 2012
10:10 pm
Ken, I do feel for you. You are a good man and I respect the hell out of you. I hope things get better for you, your mother and stepfather.
falcon21
October 9th, 2012
10:19 pm
Getting late Cagers but we better be ready for Oakland, they did beat Pittsburgh! Later.
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
10:42 pm
Not only does Smitty have the WP, he did it with a rooking QB and a team that was 4-12….Again, sometimes I think he is a victim of his own success. In other words, he got too good too soon, but just did not quite have the post season success to match his regular season success, YET. That is why I always defend MM and BVG, they gave it their all, but it was not like they were miserable failures, you don’t get mentioned with George Halas etc in ANY catagory without deserving some respect.
But before everyone goes blows up, I know it was time for them to go, they knew it too. That’s why they went and found new jobs, but no reason to hate. It is not like they were Mouse Davis.
snacktastic
October 9th, 2012
10:46 pm
@Ken: I hope you can get things worked out with your family. Hang in there.
@D3: Just more proof that this organization has been built to be successful in the long run.
@falcon21: It’s been said that you don’t know which Raiders team you’re going to get in a given week, but when I see one win versus Pittsburgh and three losses, two being against teams we outclassed, I think “fluke”. After a pair of ugly wins, the Birds will take care of business and grab that AFC West crown.
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
10:47 pm
I remember when Ryan got his first action in the pre-season and looked good working the ball down the field…I told my friend taht we might not be as bad as we think this year. He said, no way, we have not O line…Yet we got to the playoffs. So what does Smitty get credit for in on, losing in the playoffs.
Matty Bicep
October 9th, 2012
10:48 pm
above post talking about 08 season when Ryan and CS were rookies.
Ken Strickland
October 9th, 2012
11:31 pm
Thanks everyone. You can see why I’m so happy that our Falcons are undefeated. I don’t know what I’d do if we were going through what the AINTS/TAINTS are going through. The last 2 gms are the type of gms a team with Superbowl asperations like us has to learn how to win.
Less than elite teams like the Redskins and Panthers can be just as tough, aggressive and intense as any elite team. They simply have difficulty maintaining that aggressiveness, intensity and toughness for an entire gm. Stopping our rushing attack while defending our passing attack took a major toll on their DEF by the 4th quarter. We actually saw the same thing happen to the Panthers.
We’ve had people bash Smitty, me included, as well as TD and MRyan. We actually have people that are dumb enough to call them failures because we haven’t won a playoff gm after 3 trips to the playoffs in 4yrs.
Wabe
October 9th, 2012
11:34 pm
MB,
I’ll buy what you’re selling in your 10:42 post. I do think Smitty’s a good coach.
It does suck for him and all of us that the Falcons are 0-3 in the playoffs during his tenure, but, I think what makes things worse is the way that we’ve been getting bounced from the playoffs. In the past 2 seasons, we haven’t even played like a team that deserved to be in the playoffs. We’ve suffered our worst losses of the season at a time where we need to be playing our best ball. I think that is why Smitty has gotten the heat he has gotten.
Say what you will, but it’s justified to a degree. You can’t get stomped in back to back years in the playoffs, playing your worst football game of the season in both cases, when all the chips are on the table. You can scream execution all you want, because that’s also needed. But, it’s the coaches job to get these guys prepared. I think Smitty’s conservative ‘play not to lose’ style has proven to cost us in the playoffs when everybody’s coming at you, not playing hoping you make the first mistake.
I think coaches in general, like Smitty, deserve longer leashes. If they’ve proven they’re capable and consistent winners in the regular season, I think they’ll learn a lot about their weaknesses and shortcomings over the years and eventually push through. That’s one reason why I think organization’s like PITT can win consistently. They stick with their guy, making tweaks along the way, and have proven to be a model of consistency, something I think we’re building here.
Falcons Chic
October 10th, 2012
4:36 am
To Ken — Thinking about you all the way over here in China.
To Cagers — I also want to pose a question. What the 7734 was Kerrigan doing in our backfield anyway? My view of MR2’s helmet/peripheral vision seemed to me he didn’t see him pass the OL in a blaze of glory until just as he released the ball.
Big Lou
October 10th, 2012
8:50 am
Falcons Chic
It was a play action screen to Harry Douglas. What was suppose to happen is that the offensive lineman or RB should have chipped Kerrigan to slow him a down a bit, then let him go. It seems that they never touched him, which surprised Ryan when he turned to throw. Ryan has the tendency, like most QBs, to sometimes turn into a robot of the offense and just throw the route on the play, instead of looking first. I feel that is the only reason why he has 3 INT this year is that he gets too anxious and throws with tunnel vision.
Big Lou
October 10th, 2012
8:57 am
Quote from Pat Y. on one of his articles:
“The Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans Saints have one thing in common.
They lead the NFL in dropped passes, according to ESPN Stats & Information. The Falcons and Saints each have 15 drops.
That hasn’t been a problem for the Buccaneers and Panthers, who each have six drops.
Let’s take a little closer look at what’s going wrong for the Falcons and Saints in this department.
Atlanta’s Julio Jones is second in the league with five drops, only one behind Dallas’ Jason Witten. Jones easily has been the biggest culprit for the Falcons. Tony Gonzalez and Michael Turner each have two drops. Roddy White, who led the league with 15 drops last season, has only one. Same for Harry Douglas, Jacquizz Rodgers and Lousaka Polite.”
Execution, execution, execution! Catch the dang ball! I am still ticked off about the one Julio dropped when it hit his chest in the first series.
Ken Strickland
October 10th, 2012
9:14 am
FALCONS CHIC-Thanks for the China support. I’d give anything to be in China, although my reasons likely wouldn’t go over well with the Chinese. I’d want to visit the the remote mountains of Southern China to see the decendants of China’s original inhabitants, who established the 1st 2 dynasties in China, the Xia and Shang. They were called NAKHI, and they originated in West Africa.
They built the worlds largest pyramid(1000ft tall) in China, which was earthen.They were discovered by the outside world in 1923 when a US state dept official discovered their existence. At the time there were over a quarter of a million of them, with their culture and language still intact. They have been traced directly to West Africa, as well as South America and Olmec civilization, which is the 1st recorded high culture in America.
I know all of this because I’ve been studying Ancient African history for 30 yrs. I would deeply appreciate any info you can give me on the matter.
You guys don’t know it, but just getting my personal issues out in the open, and know that I’m not the only one among us with simular issues was uplifting. I really feel so much better. It’s like a weight has been taken off my shoulders, at least for now anyway. But every little bit helps. Thanks again CAGERS.
I’ve been seriously contemplating a complete life change after I get these family issues resolved. I’m thinking about selling everything and buying a 5th wheel RV, a pickup truck, and taking my time while seeing the US. Can anyone give me any info on what that’s like? I’ve become intoxicated over the idea of living and traveling anywhere I want, staying as long as I want, and leaving whenever I want.
I wish I could find a road partner, besides my little Dobe Man of course, but I’ll go it alone if I have to. Of course, as soon as I start talking trash about my Falcons, I’ll probably get run out of town sooner than I’d like, but what else can I do, WE BAD!
Coop
October 10th, 2012
10:33 am
KS – Hang tough friend! Families are often difficult, but only becuase we know those folks will take the most from us. However, they also give the most to us. My parents lost their jobs, then my in-laws lost their jobs. I put my folks in a house I have in Monroe and gave up the rent I was getting. Then I moved my in-laws from California and they’re living in my house with my wife and our 3 kids. My father-in-law asked how I could put up with some much turmoil. I just said, it’s my turn.
Don’t get me wrong, it sucks the life out of me sometimes and I’m not sure how long I can balance the finances, etc. But in the end, how do we say no to those who gave so much to us growing up?
Hang in there and know you are not alone, you are not unappreciated, and this too shall pass.
Coop
October 10th, 2012
10:45 am
As for CMS, I agree that he has been an outstanding coach. I love Smitty and will always revere what he, TD, and MR2 did for this franchise after the Vick/Petrino debacle. I have often stated that he was brilliant in his approach. The Falcons were a team with a ton of holes, but he committed to playing mistake-free football. Cut down on penalties, run the ball, stop the run. That was exactly what this team needed in 2008. Fundamentally sound, SAFE, football.
I submit thatif Cleveland, Oakland, or any other crappy team subscribed to this methodology today, they would instantly become a contender to win 8 or 9 games. As much as I hate Smittyball, MB and BL are correct that it is very effective. At the point this franchise was in, that’s what they needed. Don’t get too high, just get consistent. We won some games we should have lost, lost some games we should have won, but basically, we were consistent.
My issue with Smittyball was that I felt (and feel) that CMS went too long with it. Why not? It was wildly successful other than the playoffs. However, I think that the team got inculcated with the belief that they couldn’t make a mistake or they’d lose. However, the players had gotten better (or we got better players) and they were developing to a point where it was time to move beyond Smittyball. You don’t abandon EVERY aspect. You still want to limit penalties and turnovers, but take the reigns off more and more and trust your players to make some plays. Don’t wait for 4th and 1 to be aggressive, be aggressive on 1st and 10.
I honestly believed that CMS was the eason we played conservative O and BBDB D. To me, the HC is responsible for everything the team does or fails to do. If it was MM and BVG, then CMS was culpable for not firing them or demanding they change. When those two left, I never once thought (still don’t) that it was Smitty’s decision. Either Arthur or TD forced him to make that change.
Perhaps Smitty figured it out on his own, or Arthur forced him to, but he is definitely coaching different this year. The one thing I never thought he culd do was change. So, I give him all the credit in the world for this 5-0 start and the change in the demeanor of this team. Others have said it, you just see a different team on the field this year. Smitty deserve HIGH PRAISE for this.
I am honestly glad that I was wrong in believing Smitty could change. I hope to see more of what we’ve seen the first 5 weeks from the HC.
Coop
October 10th, 2012
10:46 am
As for Oakland, there is ZERO excuse to lose this game. I don’t believe we will. I’d like to see a more comfortable win like we had against SD. I’ll take any win, but stressing over Carolina and Washington has me looking forward to a more boring 31-10 type win this Sunday. They’ll be plenty of stress in Philly, so let’s handle this one with ease please.
Hamad Meander
October 10th, 2012
11:04 am
If all we can be critical of is dropped passes, then I am happy. Why? What would be easier to fix than dropped passes? For there to be a dropped pass, the line had to block, the QB had to recognize the open receiver, he had to deliver the ball to the receiver, and then the receiver had to drop it. Three things went right and one thing went wrong. Easy to fix.
Coop
October 10th, 2012
11:17 am
Check out this link:
http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/nfcsosrg.html
Interesting statistics. Based on winning percentages to date, the Falcons have the easiest schedule remaining of any team in the NFC and 28th overall in the league. Of course the 1-3 Bucs, 1-4 Panthers, and 1-4 Saints (accounting for 5 of our remaining 11 games) really skews that. I don’t think any of beleive those 5 games will be cake walks.
Ken Strickland
October 10th, 2012
11:18 am
COOP-I complained because I had no shoes, until I met a man with no feet. THANKS A MILLION COOP!!!!
Coop
October 10th, 2012
11:23 am
KS – I hope it didn’t sound like I was trying to equate my position or in any way minimize yours. I just wanted to show some solidarity and express admiration that you are doing the right thing. I re-read my post and I’m not sure I conveyed that very well.
Big Lou
October 10th, 2012
1:04 pm
Coop
Love the MS posts, and I totally agree. It’s time to take more risks. I’m happy that MS is going in the right direction. They just need to be more effective in the run game by the playoffs.
I agree on the Raiders game, too. The only way the game will be close is if they shoot themselves in the foot. I have been pretty good on my personnel predictions so far, and I think the Burner will have a huge game.
JB Falcon
October 10th, 2012
1:58 pm
Says on ESPN that Brees sent the 48th touchdown ball up to the Pro Football HOF & informed them that he would send the one that ends the streak. The way I see it, that ending ball may be the same ball.
D3
October 10th, 2012
2:06 pm
JB — How awesome would it be if ended that @sshole’s streak? Just so hard because he passes the ball 50+ times a game and could care less how many INT’s he has.
JB Falcon
October 10th, 2012
2:16 pm
D3, coincidentally, Brees leads the league in INT’s.
JB Falcon
October 10th, 2012
2:17 pm
Oop! I wuz wrong. Reading the wrong chart.
Coop
October 10th, 2012
2:23 pm
D3 – I know I’m not alone, but can you remind us how many folks predicted 5-0 or 6-0 starts in our friendly competition? Also, do you win just by getting the final record right, or is it like the draft where you get more points if you predict exactly which games they win and lose?
Coop
October 10th, 2012
2:33 pm
I found my original prediction. I’ve done well in the W/L, but some of my analysis was off. Plus, going forward I don’t think I would predict Cardinals to be easy anymore.
1) Falcons @ Chiefs – Win: Agree with D3 that we are finally focused. This could be tough however. New coordinators means growing pains. Very interested to see how we hold up against the run without Lofton. Do we play Smittyball? Can we get to Cassel? If the answers are No and Yes, we win easy.
2) Falcons vs. Broncos – Win: Again, agree with D3. This is a win. Disagree that Manning will “get his”. I predict Peyton struggles early on this season. He didn’t look good during the preseason. Falcons win big.
3) Falcons @ Chargers – Win: The Falcons are absolutely the better team. Chargers are trending down. Normaly, teams traveling from East to West don’t fair well. But look at Smitty’s record… we do very well going West.
4) Falcons vs. Panthers – Win: I predict Cam has a sophomore slump. We play a solid game and MR2 shows he’s knocking on the elite door, not Mr. Fig Newton.
5) Falcons @ Redskins – Win: I like RG3, but the rest of that team STILL sucks. Falcons beat a better Redskins team in DC with Vick. They’ll blow this team out.
6) Falcons vs. Raiders – Win: This will be an very tight game just like D3 said. The issue here is looking ahead to the bye week and being a “surprise 5-0 team”.
7) Falcons @ Eagles – Win: Vick will be out for this game. Bank on it! I think Reid is a very good coach, but his light is starting to flicker. If I’m right above and Smitty has his team 6-0, it means he has learned how to use his talent. Falcons have more of it than the Eagles.
8.) Falcons vs. Cowboys – Win: If we lose this game, I may kill myself. I’d feel better if this game was in December when the Cowboys and Romo play like idiots, but the Boy’s are simply a retard organization like the Jets. Don’t lose to this embarassment.
9) Falcons @ Saints – Loss: I don’t think we go 8-0. So my prediction above is pretty crappy. It’s definitely what we can and should do, but I don’t believe in our HC. So I know I need to put some L’s on the board. Hear is the first one. Our rival plays with more heart and identity than we do. It makes me sick.
10) Falcons vs. Cardinals – Win: Easily.
11) Falcons @ Bucs – Loss: Smitty can’t get this team to recognize it’s potential. It shows again in Tampa.
12) Falcons vs. Saints – Loss: By now, the Cage is about to go off the cliff. after starting 8-0, we’ve lost 3 of the last 4.
13) Falcons @ Panthers – Win: Finally, someone at the branch grabs this team by the balls and injects some life into it! Falcons start epic run…
14) Falcons vs. Giants – Win: This will be an epic @sswhopping! The Birds will finally have their identity and will use this game to erase memories of the playoff losses and anounce their intentions for January!
15) Falcons @ Lions – Win: I see a lot of folks picking this as a loss. No way. Lions D is not improved and our D shuts down Megatron and knocks Stafford out of the game.
16) Falcons vs. Bucs – Win: Avenging an embarassing loss, Birds finish the season 13-3. Enter the playoffs with the #2 seed.
The schedule worries me more than anything not named Smitty. I have never seen a schedule without back-toback home games… That’s concerning.
Unca' Bob
October 10th, 2012
3:10 pm
Coop,
Thanx for posting your predictions. Now I don’t have to watch anymore games.LOL
Coop
October 10th, 2012
3:12 pm
No sweat UB. I have winning loto numbers to…
JB Falcon
October 10th, 2012
4:26 pm
Coop, good predictions but no exact scores?
Coop
October 10th, 2012
4:32 pm
JB – Good point… D@MN!
JB Falcon
October 10th, 2012
4:44 pm
So, RGIII gets a concussion and, according to NFL protocol, he is back practicing. Owens gets a concussion and, according to NFL protocol he’s out for two week? RG must have a hard head.
Birdman
October 10th, 2012
5:07 pm
Hello Cage
I hope all are well and Gods blessings are shining down.
Ken I am sorry for your problems, But nothing but God himself is stronger than the power of Prayer . And you have mine.
Great win for the Falcons .Why great? Because there 5 and 0.
J Jones drops. A little concern but I think he will work it out . If you guys remember the one thing he had problems with at Alabama . Was drops.But he was still very good .
The Birds coaching staff is far greater than before and they are the biggest part of this team winning the last 2 games. UNLIKE THE WAY IT USE TO BE !!
Ken Strickland
October 10th, 2012
5:14 pm
COOP-I understood what you meant perfectly. It was just a needed reminder that others have problems to deal with as well. And some of which are much greater than ours. I didn’t take what you said as anything but a much needed reminder of what could be, rather that what is. Again, thanks for the encouragement in inspiration, because that’s the way I took it.
Greg Mendel
October 10th, 2012
6:39 pm
Regarding playoffs…
Curious, I went to web page below. I found that from 1966 to 1977, the Falcons didn’t have a single playoff appearance.
From 1978 through 2004, they made the playoffs 8 times. Of those 8 times, they were “one and gone” 3 times. They got to the Super Bowl once, and lost.
From 1966 through 2007, they had 8 playoff appearances in 29 years, averaging an appearance every 3.625 years.
From 2008 — 2011, they were “one and gone” each time, but they made the playoffs 3 times in 4 years.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl/playoffs.htm
My math may be a little off, but to a Falcons fan since ‘66, the Smith Era shows a significant trend. If a team makes the playoffs every 1.3 years, the odds are on optimism.
(Yeah, I’m a homer.)
Coop
October 10th, 2012
6:50 pm
KS – Good. Keep doing what you’re doing. Your reward awaits.
Paddy O
October 10th, 2012
7:28 pm
Question: Talent wise; the current roster for the Falcons – who get credit for assembling? I’d say TD.
Getting the most out of that talent, who is responsible? Mike Smith. I also agree with others who stated that Mike Smith coaching emphasis – mistake free, penalty free football, was essential for the team he inherited in 2008.
However, from 2008 to 2011, I don’t think we added a ton of wrinkles to our team scheme; heck, on defense, we seemed to be going backwards. So, the question at that point after 2011 – was the talent lacking? Or was the scheme fundamentally (BVG, MM – SMITTY BALL; The Molasses Gang) flawed?
From our 5-0 start, I’d say the scheme of MM and BVG was fundamentally flawed – too many opponents dissecting your team for tendencies and predictability. And, our talent level was adequate to be a good, possibly close to, elite team.
Have we witnessed perfect execution? No. But, a reliance on the pass vs. the run allows the team, even when having an off game, to quickly correct and get back into the game, as shown recently.
Who is the MVP on offense from the TD era? MR2? Turner? Tony G? As shown, even when an opposing defense “shuts down” your two wide outs, with a TE like Tony G, you can still effectively move the ball. If we were to go all in and start utilizing our RB’s more effectively in the passing game, I think we could win even when they manage to cover RW84, JJ & Tony G. It is good to be a Falcons fan.
At this point, I think most folks should conclude that TD is a very good, perhaps excellent, talent evaluator/team assembler.
As Coop I think stated, the fact that Mike Smith has adjusted his own personal philosophy to better exploit the talents on this current edition of the Falcons indicates he may just BE THE MAN to get us to the promised land.
Final hurdle – when convincingly in the playoffs. Assuming of course, that the wheels don’t come off the rest of 2012. Imagine if Ewing had not gotten hurt (one aspect of our player development that really needs deliberation – we have a bad habit of getting our draftees hurt early).
Ken Strickland
October 10th, 2012
7:51 pm
I would just like to say that this CAGE is very special, and what has made it special are the special CAGERS, led by the very special D3. I’m just proud to be apart of all this. Before D3 took over, these Falcon blogs were very much like the Hawks blog are now.
Ken Strickland
October 10th, 2012
8:03 pm
I can usually figure out what’s causing a certain football problem if given enough time. But I just can’t figure out why our OL can master the more complicated and different art of pass blocking, and in just one off season, but fall way short on the more fundamental and easier run blocking. Unlike in the past, nobody is stacking the line of scrimmage and daring us to beat them with the pass.
We certainly can’t blame the RBs, especially MTurner, because none on our RBs have been very effective. Maybe Hill and Koetter spent the OFF season, OTAs, training camp, and preseason, trying to concentrate on improving our OLs pass blocking skills and technique at the expense of run blocking.
Unca' Bob
October 10th, 2012
8:21 pm
Ken Strickland,
It’s been my observation we have two people missing. One is Ovie and the other would be Musgrave. We struggle to run the football and how’s C Ponder doing?
JB FALCON
October 10th, 2012
9:35 pm
Ken, I read you post last night, shortly after mine, but did not know how to respond, so I didn’t. I’m glad Coop helped you to understand that more won’t be put on your shoulders that you cannot carry. If you feel burdened ask for help, and you will be helped by the Almighty, who works in mysterious ways. That has been done.
On the motorhome idea? I had the same idea before I sold my MH but it is very possible. There is a whole new type of world out there consisting of folks who make it work. Do the research and you will find that anywhere you go, in any park, you will likely find a Falcon fan. It can be done, if that’s what you want.
DHunt
October 10th, 2012
10:17 pm
I see The Cage is still cooking with hot sauce. D3’s most excellent post deserves a response before I get to all the analysis. Ergo…
1) How cool is it to be 5-0? Only thing better would be 6-0. The Redskins game was nowhere near as competitive as the score would indicate. We outplayed a team that has been playing pretty good football. Big Lou already pointed out that without 3 mistakes, we would have won that game 31-0.
2) Actually can’t say that I’m “concerned” at all about the defense. A pretty good running back found some creases, and some decent defenders missed a couple of tackles. But what stood out to me most about the rush defense, was how it got better at the end of the game. From mid 3rd quarter to the end, we shut the Skins run game down. Most people expect the offense to get stronger in the run as the game goes on, but we stepped it up. Also worth mentioning was the pursuit of both Babs and Jerry from the inside DL to make plays in the run game. That kind of effort will continue to pay dividends.
3) I can’t see how Gonzo could have a career year and then just call it quits. I do wonder what it would take to make him stay? Would winning a super bowl make him stay or make him go? Would not winning a playoff game after having a monster season give him more incentive to come back or give it up? I want him to play for the Falcons until he can’t catch 60+ passes a year.
4) Only a soft shoe was ever in danger of flying towards the flat screen. And that only on the 2nd attempt to throw to him. The first time he just leaked out because there was no one for him to block. The second was designed. Neither had any chance of doing much. More to come on this one.
5) It’s been said that going big with Turner in the backfield could have a tendency to bring the safeties up. You can still get two receivers, possibly even three into pass patterns from this set, so it’s not a bad look as a chess move. If it’s because that’s the only way Koetter feels he can protect Ryan or spring Turner, then it’s a problem. Since I don’t believe that latter scenario for a minute, it’s really not a problem.
6) Was Julio ever gone? He suffered a bad hand injury. His HAND, people. So yeah, he’s had a few drops. But he’s made some great catches as well. Two of his “drops” would have been spectacular catches. The numbers don’t tell the whole story here. Suffice it to say that Julio is a top 10 receiver in a pass happy league. Name three guys you would rather have… I’ll wait….
7) Haven’t seen enough of Dent to tell anything. Saw him overrun a play last week. Could have just been a great cutback by the RB. Saw a lot of Falcons defenders not getting off blocks last week, so maybe it’s a coaching thing. Simply put, it’s too early to call. MLB ( and LB in general) is a spot we are really thin at this year. The Bierman experiment and next year’s draft are likely to be when this gets addressed.
8.) Every win in the NFL is huge. Every close win is usually a sign that the winning team stayed in it until the end, and persevered through some adversity. It’s a 16 game season against teams that all have a very close level of talent. It’s brutal and guys play hurt all the time. Anyone who discounts any opponent, or any win, is deluded. If the ball bounces your way, you still have to be there and make the play.
9) Take Julio’s drops out of it, and you have basically one per player (and the one Quizz is credited with from last week was way high). Tony G dropped a couple. yeah… like I’m worried about Tony G. HD may be a little rusty. Drops only hurt when you don’t have the firepower to recover from them. So here again, nothing to see folks… move along… move along…
10) The simple fact that they are 5-0 Falcons isn’t enough? OK, well in that case, I like the defense. Other than Peyton Manning going all out in comeback mode, this defense has been downright stingy. And they have been very consistent. Mike Nolan has been the biggest difference thus far this year. He has the defense playing at a high level, and nothing short of catastrophic injuries will change that, and maybe not even that.
11) Why worry at all about a 5-0 Falcons team? It’s not like they are winning like Philly, with smoke, mirrors, and prayers. I can’t say I’m worried at all, because I see a team that is constantly working to get better, and they are pretty damn good already.
DHunt
October 10th, 2012
10:22 pm
To any of the Cage family who find yourself going through rough times, I can tell you what my Grandmother taught me. You have to go through something to get to something. And when you are in the midst of the most trying times, just know, this too will pass.
Coop
October 10th, 2012
11:03 pm
DHunt – Amen. The Lord carries us through the valleys so we can truly appreciate the mountain tops. Have no doubt, if you walk with Him, you are heading to the mountain tops.
Birdman
October 11th, 2012
6:58 am
Morning cage .
Coop I to had the Birds picked to win 13 games this year but you never know they may do even better.
After there bye they go to see the other Birds . Who will have also just came off a bye . Could be our first loss. But maybe not . \
Cage I hope you all have a blessed day.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2012
9:47 am
JB FALCON-For someone that didn’t know exactly how to respond, you certainly did one helluva job responding. Man, you don’t know how much better I feel right now. I just needed to get it out there rather than bottling it up, and to hear another perspective, which COOP so graciously provided.
My sister ran across a class C motorhome that was for sale way below market value, and made an impulse cash purchase. She was so excited that she couldn’t stop talking about it. Therefore, I started doing some research and thinking about all of the possibilities and the ultimate freedom it would bring.
Instead of riding around the circle or perimeter, or inside or outside of it, I could expand the circle or perimeter to include the entire country. Believe it or not, one of my main concerns was not being able to pickup my Falcons and Hawks. But after further research, I found that you can get mobile Direct TV. I’m still debating on whether to go with Solar panels, a wind turbine, or both.
It said that solor panels are almost useless in the Pacific Northwest, and I definitely want to spend some time exploring that area of the country. If I’m going to make the RV my fulltime home, I do want it to be large enough to be comfortable. I think I could be happy with a 32′-34′ 5th wheeler, but I got a chance to talk with a guy that was gasing up at Walmart that had a really nice 37′ 5th wheeler.
As long as I have my music, surround sound big screen, computer, Falcons, Hawks, and the CAGE, I can take this entire country in. After surviving a serious stroke and prostate cancer, I’m ready to really try something new and different. I guess I’m really a lot like our Falcons at this point. I know what I wantand have the desire to accomplish, but I just don’t know enough about myself at this point to be totally confident in my ability to get there.
My sister would let me borrow her RV, but she can’t stand dogs which means my little Dobe Man could ride with me, and that’s totally out of the question. At 16mos old, his clownish and destinctive personality has totally won my mother over, and you know how I feel about Doberman Pinschers, with him being my 13th over the yrs.
Unca' Bob
October 11th, 2012
10:59 am
Coach Smith,
“In terms of a head coach, there are different philosophies, but I believe in you hire an offensive coordinator, you hire a defensive coordinator, and you hire a special teams coordinator. They can devote so much more time than you can on looking at the offense, the defense, and the special teams and you allow those guys with the staff to work with the guys. I don’t believe in micro managing. I believe that you’ve got to have a back row view. When you are a position coach or a coordinator you have to have a micro view. You have to concern yourself with one thing and not really worry about anything else. I’m very fortunate that I have a great staff. Guys around me that do a great job in preparing their groups. When I started, I would never call a play on offense, never call a play on defense or special teams on game day. “
Big Lou
October 11th, 2012
11:04 am
Unca’ Bob
Great quote.
Check this article out on Dunta Robinson, too:
http://www.foxsportssouth.com/10/10/12/Falcons-Robinson-finally-fulfilling-expe/landing_falcons.html?blockID=802771&feedID=3703
Glad we got rid of the DC. Nolan is 2 legit 2 quit. Hay Hay.
Wabe
October 11th, 2012
11:29 am
In other words, Smitty’s saying put it on BVG and Mularkey…
Paddy O
October 11th, 2012
11:36 am
Under BVG, we were ready to toss away DeCoud and Dunta. Biermann appeared to be a bust, and Abe was getting old; plus, our DT’s were being questioned for impact. Now, we seem to have good quality players in all of them. Very interesting.
John Waynesworld
October 11th, 2012
12:26 pm
Ka-bump! Ka-bump!
The Smitty Bus just ran over two coordinators, and didn’t even slow down.
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2012
5:01 pm
That Dunta Robinson article is the equivalent of pimp slapping VanGorder in the face without admitting that he did it.
tyler
October 11th, 2012
5:30 pm
D3, nice writeup. I totally agree on your opinion of Dent. I’ve been on him for a few weeks now. In my opinion from watching the DL, our guys are consistently winning their 1 on 1 matchups and controling their gaps. The job of the MLB is to read the play and fill where needed and Dent is just nowhere to be found. He pretty much might as well not be in the game.
I’m not as keen on Beirman as some of you other guys. I see him consistently getting handled by opposing TE’s 1 on 1, particularly on running plays, and I just don’t think he has the speed for LB.
I’m definately in agreement that Atlanta will be in the market for a LB come draft time. As for this year, I’m thinking we could start to bring in another safety and let William Moore play outside linebacker on some running downs, moving Spoon to the middle.
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2012
5:47 pm
I wonder who will have the most influence over our final roster selections, Ferry or Drew? We all know that Drew, just like Woodson, favors vets over rookies and less experienced players, especially guards. Neither HC seems to be big on developing players. That’s why we haven’t maintained any 2nd rd draft picks on our roster in several yrs now.
It’s also been established that Ferry strongly favors developing and playing younger players, which would definitely include 2nd rd picks. So, will Drew have the last say so and choose the veteran PF Tolliver over the rookie Scott, maybe the veteran SG Morrow and/or Korver over the rookie JJenkins, or the veteran C Petro over Benson?
Judging from the scouting reports, Scott seems to be a younger and less experienced version of Tolliver. Both are stretch 4s and solid rebounders. Between our designated 3pt shooters(Korver, Morrow and Jenkins), Jenkins appears to be the more consistent and versatile shooter of the 3. Deciding which player makes the active 12 man roster could be determinde by who makes the final decision, not necessarily which player performed the best during training camp and preseason.
LDrew is in a rather precarious situation. Does he go against Ferry and do what he wants to do and run the risk of not getting extended by Ferry? Or, does he go against his instincts and cater to what he knows Ferry prefers to hopefully get on his good side and get extended?
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2012
5:48 pm
DOGGONE IT, I knew it would happen someday, but I’ve finally posted on the wrong blog.
Paddy O
October 11th, 2012
7:15 pm
Need a Big Ray update.
Paddy O
October 11th, 2012
7:16 pm
Ken S- what have you written about the Falcons on the Hawks blog?
Paddy O
October 11th, 2012
7:16 pm
Better trade: Tony G or Asante?
JB FALCON
October 11th, 2012
8:58 pm
KS, I thought for a minute that you had done cought a case of serious dimentia!
Ken Strickland
October 11th, 2012
10:23 pm
PADDY O/JB FALCON-You can’t believe how I felt when I saw what I had done. As much as I post on both sites, it’s amazing it hasn’t happened before.
DePlane
October 12th, 2012
12:21 am
Can’t wait for this home game….looking forward to seeing our juggernaut in the dome!
Paddy O
October 12th, 2012
11:44 am
Ken – I started reading and started wondering – is he reading scouting reports for the draft? Then your response immediately after was very funny! Keep on posting, Sir Links A Lot.
Big Lou
October 12th, 2012
12:28 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/10/12/atlanta-falcons-run-defense-needs-to-improve-quickly/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_falcons_blog
Interesting article on our run defense, which points toward failed execution, instead of scheme. Yet, I would rather teams try to beat us with the run because it takes the QB out of rhythm. Not to mention, Atlanta is doing a good job on time of possession. I really feel the defense will strive more if the Falcons score first.
I really think defending the run is overrated, unless you are dealing with a QB like Cam/RG3/Vick. I’m excited to see what Mike Nolan/Players do to adjust for Oakland. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Our offense has had more issues than our D. Don’t turn into a BVG defense that (overrated) blocks the run well. Like that matters versus teams like the Saints, Green Bay, Giants, Cowboys, and Patriots. Our only weakness with be the 49ers, Ravens, and Philly, IMHO.
JB Falcon
October 12th, 2012
2:47 pm
On the bright side, Oakland averages around 68 yards on the ground per game. Playing them should allow us to try some different techniques for run blocking. I think the FO is looking further down the road when we face better running teams.
Jimbo73
October 12th, 2012
2:56 pm
It looks like we will have Lousaka Polite back in the line up as he didn’t appear on the injury report this week. Michael Palmer will not be back giving us just two true TEs on the active roster. It will be interesting to see if they still try to do something with the “Tackle Eligible” out in pass patterns, as a decoy as they have shown a willingness to go that route in the last couple of games.
I would love to see them use Harry Douglas more in the game plan this week and get him on film more to give teams in upcoming weeks another thing for which they have to prepare. Harry is used more to clear out space for our other WRs and I think teams my be overlooking him. Right now, it’s pick your poison with the passing game and it would be nice to add some cyanide for them to worry about. Go Falcons ! ! !
JB Falcon
October 12th, 2012
2:58 pm
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8487647/atlanta-falcons-qb-matt-ryan-proves-knows-how-win
Big Lou
October 12th, 2012
3:07 pm
JB Falcon
Beat me to it. Matt Ryan is on the front page of espn…. WHHHHHATTTTT?
Big Lou
October 12th, 2012
3:11 pm
Why did Ashley say we didn’t beat Philly? We beat them last year… derp.
Big Lou
October 12th, 2012
3:22 pm
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap1000000079426/Preview-Oakland-Raiders-vs-Atlanta-Falcons
NFL preview of Oakland versus the Falcons. What I like is the part where Matt Ryan is talking to his offensive line and was like:
Good job, good job, you… not so much… LMAO (Panther’s Game)
Unca' Bob
October 12th, 2012
3:34 pm
Coach Smith,
Great quote-”People ask me, ‘Are you a running team? Are you a throwing team?’ We’re trying to be a scoring team, and there’s lots of ways you can score.”
LeeVancleave
October 12th, 2012
4:21 pm
The Falcons are looking good right now at 5-0, but if they dont win the rest of their games and go undefeated at 16-0, sweep through the playoffs and tie the Miami Dolphins of having a perfect season and win the superbowl, they have essentially wasted their time.
JB Falcon
October 12th, 2012
4:36 pm
Well, here’s the Raiders’ plan for Sunday.
http://bloggingdirty.com/2012/10/12/raiders-intend-to-get-their-running-game-on-track-against-falcons/
JJ
October 12th, 2012
4:38 pm
Yea15-1, 14-2 with NFC South title would be wasting there time.
What an idiot!!!
JJ
October 12th, 2012
4:47 pm
The only real threat they have is DMC and thanks to there new sh!tty OC, Greg Knapp, he wont be too dangerous. Drafted him as my RB1 and hes not the same explosive player pre -acl or pre knapp.
As coop says, no way we should lose this game.
So said pitt last night, but we contain DMC and make Palmer beat us.
No way!!!, Falcons by 21 pts.
But id love a few TDs from DMC!!!
Paddy O
October 12th, 2012
5:13 pm
stats wise, the “best of the NFL” list is littered with Falcons – all of our key skills guys on offense are on the top Ryan is #2; Gonzo leads in catches, along with Julio and Roddy; Gonzo and Julio lead in scoring (topish); so, you would think with all this passing, our running would be in the dumps – not really, pretty high there too. We have a dynamic attack – when harnessed. I really liked what I saw that first game. The D played out of this world against Peyton and SD. Ryan lead a comback against Caroline & the Skins. Contributions from the entire team. Sweet.
Slant Pattern
October 12th, 2012
6:17 pm
“thanks to there new sh!tty OC, Greg Knapp, he wont be too dangerous.” – JJ
Sounds like an excuse for poor execution. I have it on good authority from people much smarter than any of us that schemes, playbooks, and playcalling don’t exist or have no bearing on outcome…only execution. Maybe you should have Mr. Rourke teach DMC about fantasy execution
.
Unca Bob – Excellent qoute! Sounds like Smitty “gets it” after all.
Ken Strickland
October 12th, 2012
6:33 pm
BIG LOU-I agree with the idea that our failures in run DEF are the result of poor execution rather than scheme. If you review the gms, or can remember those running plays, you’ll notice we’ve usually had players in position to make the play, but they just didn’t effectively fight off their blocks. We also have to accept some concessions in our run DEF, since we don’t traditionally utilize a MLB on most downs.
Big Lou
October 12th, 2012
8:05 pm
SP
Thanks for proving my point. Just jump in to take jabs when people have moved on. You should change your name to: Seriously Pathetic.
Big Lou
October 12th, 2012
8:07 pm
Ken
I am glad you noticed that. We usually only have two LBs out at a time. It completely changes Dent out of his natural position. I’ll give him till the end of the year to catch on.
Unca' Bob
October 12th, 2012
8:43 pm
SP,
I feel he has had it all along. Perspective.
Slant Pattern
October 12th, 2012
9:21 pm
“SP,
I feel he has had it all along. Perspective.” – UB
If that is true he could have spared many headaches by making that quote sooner. Of course, getting rid of MM a year earlier would have proved that outright in a much more convincing fashion. I’m more worried about Koetter than Smitty, and I’m not really worried about Koetter just yet. Since we can’t do pictures here, this link ( http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/3958354-atlanta-adjustment-to-double-coverage/ ) and thread does a good job of showing what I was getting testy about last game. If Smitty and Co. wanna keep scoring, gotta crack the whip and get Koetter adjusting to the adjustments.
JB FALCON
October 12th, 2012
9:25 pm
Lawd, Lawd, the cage done run in the ditch, interlopers and everything. Lotta folks missin’ and not much discussions going on, maybe, except trying to stir things up the wrong way.
Come Sunday we have a good chance of being 6-0. The bye week will be welcomed so that we can figure out how to continue from there.
This team might actually be the team we have been working towards for since 1966. Lord knows that our hopes and dreams have been stomped on for so many years we are not going to know how to react if our dreams finally come true. I’ll probably just sh!t all over myself.
My 2010 Division Champ hat is getting worn so I’m looking forward to getting a new one. I saw an Aint’s fan at Kroger with a Super Bowl jacket, I want one of those dearly that has the Falcon’s logo on it.
Forty six freaking years I have savbed up to buy that jacket. Anyone else here think they might buy one?
JB FALCON
October 12th, 2012
9:35 pm
saved. SP. it took me a minute, so if you don’t know what I mean, you ain’t SP.
Slant Pattern
October 12th, 2012
9:46 pm
“saved. SP. it took me a minute, so if you don’t know what I mean, you ain’t SP.” – JB
We threw enough ill-timed screen passes last week I figured it was time to make the change. After CJ ripped us up it is not to be unexpected nor an invalid game plan to work on that aspect of our game. Next time I would hope we work on things after we get a lead at least but I have to say it is better than MM never adjusting period.
? I should prolly ignore them pasta al Fredo style but what fun would that be?
If you wanna know its truly me, just look up a few posts. Who else could cause someone to go schizo like that
JB FALCON
October 12th, 2012
9:59 pm
SP, your posts’ content gave you away. The content is the key.
Slant Pattern
October 12th, 2012
10:04 pm
“SP, your posts’ content gave you away. The content is the key. ” – JB
The blog monster is hiding some fireworks inducing content…hope it gets indigestion!
Paddy O
October 12th, 2012
11:49 pm
some folks just have that controlling attitude. OK; I’m officially worried – anybody got contact with Big Ray? The article and quote from smith on ESPN mag was nice; but then I read past the Falcon story, and it started looking mighty NE Connecticut stupid. Gee, is it surprising that Doctors and Researchers discovered a potential connection between chronic (and in the past, most likely untreated) concussions and cerebral problems later in life? Do folks think that the NFL has a cadre of medical researches on staff 24/7? The NFL is not the federal gov’t – they cant just print up some dough, hire some highly degreed professionals and still retain profitability. Selah. Asinine idealism. However, anybody shocked that playing professional football could possibly cause long term health problems, cranial and other? It is called assumed risk. And, in the NFL, it is quite high. I would not want 3 or 4 300 pound + guys chasing me and then ALL landing on me; heck, even 1 – who most likely is FASTER than I, would provide all I need to know about potential risk.
Paddy O
October 12th, 2012
11:51 pm
Slant – you really need to be crossing pattern – we are not currently employing that route enough, IMHO!! GO FALCONS! 33 – 17 Falcons over raiders. Can Ryan get over 4500 yards passing and 40 TD’s? If that happened AND Turner got over 1200 yards – that is dynamic – assuming the scheme keeps up with our talented weapons. Hoo – ah, lightfighter!
DePlane
October 13th, 2012
8:01 am
Big Ray you ok? We’re thinking about you big guy….
Also, anyone hear from SW lately?
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Big Lou
October 13th, 2012
10:42 am
I, too, am worried about Big Ray and SW. I hope they are doing well.
JJ
October 13th, 2012
3:45 pm
Sending out the posse to find BR, SW and WR, hope all is well cage brothers!!!
Just got back from the mtns and ready to see the falcons put it all together for 4 qtrs and dominate this game in all phases!!!
D3, excuse my excessive smack the other night (ffl), that carolina moonshine is tasty!
JJ
October 13th, 2012
7:32 pm
ok
JJ
October 13th, 2012
7:34 pm
wtf cage family???
PoolerSpirit
October 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
Searching for Ray… I went through the past week’s Obits on Savannah Now and only saw one Ray… assuming Big Ray wasn’t lying when he talked about his “big, black a$$” then that wasn’t him. He was in Memorial Hospital… if anybody knows Ray’s last name, I’ll go by and check on him tomorrow…
JB FALCON
October 13th, 2012
7:50 pm
JJ, same thing happened last night. I think everyone is thinking the upcoming game will be a gimme, and it may well be, but there is a thing in my mind wondering, will anyone beat us and when and how. I look at NE going 16-0 and losing the big one. Then I look at the Giants and barely getting into the big one and winning it. The suspense it building week after week.
I truly believe we will get into the play offs and break the play off losing streak. After 46 years of hoping, I’m not sure how we will react if we actually bring home the Lombardi. I am very willing to take that chance of having the big one. Each game, from here on out, is writing history and I am anxious to see how the story turns out. If we were to duplicate the Miami miracle that would surely make a lot of the talking heads and general media negativity STFU once and for all!
Wabe
October 13th, 2012
7:53 pm
No reason not to blow out the Raiders tomorrow…
I expect a blowout, anything short of that would be somewhat disappointing. I get it, wins are wins. But, you can’t play down to your competition week after week. Gotta smack some folks around, and we play one of those teams that we should smack tomorrow.
The Raiders running game hasn’t been all that effective this season. McFadden is a good back, but, for whatever reason, they haven’t been able to run he football. I’d hope we’re not the team that McFadden has a coming out party against.
Not really much to break down in this game, IMO. Blowout. That’s what better happen.
35-14. Falcons get to bye week at 6-0.
Birdman
October 13th, 2012
8:01 pm
No worries yet .
I have seen SW take a time out are two before.I Pray that all is well with our two brothers
JB FALCON
October 13th, 2012
8:01 pm
I hope to see the Falcons get better each week, correct a weak point each week, and peak out at the NO swamp with the final win.
Birdman
October 13th, 2012
8:13 pm
44 to 10 Falcons
The Ice Man gets 400 yards throwing .
Birdman
October 13th, 2012
8:29 pm
The Birds will go into the bye 6 & 0 If all goes the way it should .
After there bye they go to Phill and face the other Birds. And they also will be coming off a bye .You can bet that the Eagles are going to be studying the Falcons on there week off and working on our weaknesses.
This will be our OC and DC:s biggest challenge so for this year
JB FALCON
October 13th, 2012
8:44 pm
BM, I am looking forward to the Igles game but the bottom line is I just want to see a Falcon put a hurtin’ on Prick. Maybe bite him on the leg.
JB FALCON
October 13th, 2012
9:52 pm
D3, one last time. you have Big Ray and SW’s em address, could you check on them for us, or is that asking too much?
Ken Strickland
October 13th, 2012
11:59 pm
BIG RAY is ok. He’s been spending a little time on the Hawks blog.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
10:09 am
JB ,
Sorry bro’, been hanging out a bit on the Hawks blog, as Ken S can attest to…stirring the pot, as it were…LOL.
I’m fine, just been overdoing it a bit lately and have to get back to recovering the right way. Couple of comments on your recent opinions.
1) Yes, I do think somebody will beat us, we won’t go 16-0, but it’s all good. Rather lose in the regular season and get into the postseason and make a run. HOW will they beat us? It’s as likely that we will beat ourselves, but my guess is we will get outsmarted by a team that matches up well with us. Matchups and stategy make up for a LOT in this game. Brings me to my next point…
2) The Pats going undefeated and then losing in the SuperBowl was EXACTLY about matchups and strategy. They came across an opponent with the right matchups, which allowed them to employ the right scheme against them. As we all know, it was the Giants. The game still could have gone either way, but the Giants had enough of the right stuff to compete in that game against a team that was making it look like there WAS no competition for them.
Matchups, my friend…it’s what will take us as far as we can go. We learn to take advantage of our matchups from game to game…and that’s how we win.
There is a lot of work to do, a lot of stuff to correct. Koetter in particular has work to do. He has to learn which matchups work best in which games. Last week it was Julio and TG more than most. But he had other favorable matchups as well, and did not exploit them.
Like you said…fix a piece of this or that each week…
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
10:11 am
And to D3’s credit, he emailed me a week ago asking how I was doing and saying that some of y’all were concerned.
I do appreciate that, guys/gals. I really do.
Love ya, Cage Fam. Love ya all.
And I will be doing some play-by-play today!!
JJ
October 14th, 2012
10:11 am
From ESPN Insider scouting report:
After watching film of both teams, Scouts Inc. breaks down key elements of the Week 6 Raiders-Falcons matchup.
• Oakland needs to eat up the clock: Atlanta coach Mike Smith is a firm believer in ball control and counts time of possession as one of the keys to a win each week. In last week’s win over the Washington Redskins, the Falcons owned a 37:01-22:59 advantage in time of possession. With the Falcons’ ability to eat up yards and sustain drives with a solid combination of passing and running, it is imperative that the Raiders use a strong ground game that eats up the clock and keeps the chains moving.
• Look for Falcons to create one-on-ones for receivers: The Raiders are not only struggling to cover out wide, but their defensive front hasn’t been able to mount much of a pass rush. If Oakland can’t pressure the pocket, it will give Atlanta’s receivers time to run more combination or double-move routes. When he sees his wide receivers in single coverage, Atlanta quarterback Matt Ryan loves to throw balls up high where his tall receivers can catch the ball over the top of shorter cornerbacks.
• Crowd the box: Atlanta’s defense has been built more for speed and the kind of wide-open passing games it tends to face in the NFC South. The Falcons are often exposed a bit when facing a strong ground game; they are ranked 31st when it comes to stopping the run. Raiders running back Darren McFadden hasn’t exactly embraced their new zone blocking scheme, but he can still put up yards when he gets off to a quick start. Look for the Falcons to crowd the box with an eighth defender as they try to plug up the running lanes and limit McFadden’s options.
• Home QB: Ryan has really come into this own this season and is doing a great job of reading defenses and protecting the football. He is completing 68 percent of his passes and has connected for 13 touchdown passes while throwing just three interceptions. He is making a good case for inclusion in the class of elite quarterbacks who can be game-changers and lead their offenses to new levels.
• Away QB: Carson Palmer is a quality quarterback with a strong arm and good field vision but has limited foot quickness and ability to extend plays. He is limited to throwing from the pocket to be effective. While he has thrown only two interceptions, he also has thrown only five touchdown passes. He can be very effective when backed up with a strong ground game and is most effective when the play-action fake manages to momentarily freeze the coverage as it makes its reads.
• Key positional battle — Falcons’ ground game vs. Raiders’ LBs: One thing we can count on is Smith’s commitment to the run. While the Falcons might not pour on the yards early on, he will keep pounding the ball knowing Michael Turner is apt to break one eventually. Atlanta is more explosive with its passing game, but it’s the ground game that wears opponents down. The Raiders’ linebackers, especially MLB Rolando McClain, are much stronger defending the run than they are in coverage, and it may end up being a matter of which team can force its will on the opponent early that decides this game.
• Featured player: For the Raiders to have any kind of chance, they will need a huge game from McFadden. He can be a dominating running back when on his game but has not looked like the McFadden of years past so far this season. The Falcons are giving up 5.4 yards per rushing attempt this year and could be exposed if the Raiders can get their backs off to a fast start. McFadden needs to run with his eyes up and an aggressive downhill style that commits early and hits the hole at full speed.
• Film room nuggets: Atlanta TE Tony Gonzalez is not as fast or explosive as he once was, but few tight ends — or receivers for that matter — run as precise routes and do as good a job of finishing their routes off. He goes to the ball and doesn’t just sit and wait for the ball to come to him. … Oakland’s cornerbacks have struggled in man coverage and just don’t do a great job of playing the ball in the air. They could be in for a long day against these receivers that excel at catching the ball over the top of defenders. … Turner may have lost a step over the years and is not quite the workhorse back he once was, but he still runs with a great base and tacklers often end up just bouncing off his thighs.
Prediction
Atlanta 31
Oakland 20
While the Falcons did not enjoy one of their better passing games against the Redskins in Week 5, they shouldn’t have much trouble moving the ball on the Raiders. Look for a big game for Ryan and his stable of receivers.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
10:22 am
JJ ,
Good post.
Manning up against the run will continue to haunt us until we can nail it down. We could lose a game off of this, to be honest. It could be THIS game if we’re not careful. We don’t need to let our guard down and lose to a team we have no business losing to, but don’t think it can’t happen.
At the same time, we should be able to roll up 300+ yards through the air again, and it should happen early, often, and continuously. That’s what is going to win games anyway, in the end.
The only thing is, we don’t need to get stupid while “trying things out”….I can see trying a double bubble screen or whatever, but I do NOT want to see anymore BS with throwing to the Center, or any other OL player.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
10:27 am
Speaking of throwing…
I figure our “out of the backfield” game improves dramatically next season. No, I’m not necessarily talking about kicking Mike Turner to the curb, though it may well happen.
I’m talking about Bradie Ewing. The guy can catch the ball out of the backfield, but he can also block. He’ll have all of this season and all of next offseason to get stronger. While the FB position won’t be used heavily if Turner isn’t around next season (or even if he is), the FB who can catch and block is a guy who allows you to do two things:
1) Add extra pass protection without adding another OL player (and subsequently using them as an eligibile receiver).
2) Create another credible dump-off receiving threat…especially after a chip-block or something like that.
And to be honest, we’ve seen this play attempt enough times to know that we do need that option with a better catch-and-run threat than Mike Turner gives us. Turner has to be wide open and squared towards the QB to make that catch, but then he’s got to turn all the way around and gather some steam to make anything of the play. Guys like Snelling, Quizz, and yes…Ewing…can catch more like receivers, body slanted away from the QB and pointed upfield. This allows them to gain yardage after the catch unless the defender is already on them.
It does make a difference….
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
11:08 am
I thought the Falcons would blow out our opponents the past couple of weeks, and they didn’t…so maybe I shouldn’t be so quick to assume they’ll do so today. But you know what? I expect them to handle business at home against an inferior team before the bye. Falcons roll 38-10.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
11:27 am
true that
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
11:39 am
“It does make a difference….” – BR
Having ya here certainly does. People were freaking out, started to make me nervous lol. Gald you’re ok and good stuff on the analysis. I can’t be mad at TD about Pead since he went earlier than our pick, but getting Demps would have helped us so much. I hope the Branch guys start to see the many things possible with this offense…and I don’t mean the power-running part.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
12:20 pm
31st against the run?
Man, I knew we were bad, but didn’t know we were almost dead-last in rush defense. Gotta work on that through the bye.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
12:31 pm
Looks like Nicholas and Babineaux are in.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
12:51 pm
Big Ray, good to hear that you are recovering well. Waitin’ for the game to start and hear a 14-2 SB win prediction on the pre-game show. That’s what I’m talking about!
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
12:55 pm
Giants were one of the worst teams stopping the run last year. They won the Super Bowl. As long as the offense scores, the run defense becomes an overrated stat. I really believe they will do a better job against the run today, though.
Wings
October 14th, 2012
12:56 pm
Lawd, Lawd JBF, undefeated and Big Ray is back.
My mom used that term all the timne.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:01 pm
Go Falcons!!!!!!!!
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:03 pm
Ryan wastes no time.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
7-11
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:04 pm
Good to have polite back.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:05 pm
Big Lou ,
I think it’s no coincidence on a few things…
1) Most teams that reach the SB have a mean passing attack.
2) The Giants faced teams in the SB that didn’t have mean running games. Such as that undefeated Patriots team a few years ago…and the one last year. What if they had to face a team that could pass AND run? Just a thought…
3) I agree that our offense MUST be able to score. And that happens quickest through the air.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:06 pm
SP ,
Thanks, good to be around! Agreed on the offensive possibilities.
Meanwhile not a good start. Ryan’s over-the-middle pass picked off…
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:06 pm
That was…
I just I don’t know.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:07 pm
Bad pick, but we got it right back!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
…aaand the defense takes the ball RIGHT back.
Matty Ice threw a pick…which means he will probably now throw three TDs.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
Why is Matt Ryan throwing really bad int? WTF?
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:08 pm
The pick was thrown too far behind the receiver, I think. Just a bit too far to the left.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:09 pm
Stop staring down the receivers!
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:10 pm
What are we doing kicking a field goal?
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
1:11 pm
And Bryant missed? Somebody done flung a spell on the Birds
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:12 pm
snacktastic
The throw was going in the right area; it just seems Matt Ryan completely missed the defender. That’s happened in all of his INT this year. And then we miss the field goal… WTF is going on!?
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
1:12 pm
Disturbing start…
Don’t want to even give these dude’s a hint that they can come here and win this game…
Supposed to start strong, and put these dudes in their place.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:13 pm
Weirdest start I’ve ever seen.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
1:14 pm
Nice penetration. Babs been bustin’ through the middle of that line.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:16 pm
Wow.
Heck of a catch..
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:16 pm
The Predator strikes!
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:20 pm
You know I love the Mattural, but that’s an INT 4 games in a row. Every time he was staring down his target. He needs to tighten this up.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
1:21 pm
That’ll be there all day…
Twice now we’ve seen big plays on post-out routes.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
1:22 pm
Here’s the problem…
You can’t seriously make other secondaries look better than they are. Happened last week in Washington, happening here too…
It’s a joke. This secondary hasn’t had an INT all season. And they just picked us off twice in the 1st quarter.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
That’s two picks. This one looks like it’s going to get ugly yet again.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:23 pm
Matt threw that INT because he was hit on the throw. Let’s go defense.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:24 pm
On the pick, I’m sure somebody can point out what Ryan should have done…but I also know that the defender sniffed the play and was right on the ball.
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
1:27 pm
Just meh. The first interception the defender jumped the route and then the Quizz toss seems sniffed out by a mile. We are telegraphing plays or the Raiders got our radio frequency lol. Throwing into triple coverage is never smart but yet we do it again. I would really like to know how defenses can keep getting triple coverage on us but yet something not be obviously open.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:28 pm
Great throw from Palmer, great catch by Moore…but Asante blew that one. Had the speed edge, but then slowed up and didn’t make a play on the ball.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
Raiders have speed…everyone should know this…it’s all they like to draft.
We’re teaching them how to use it by letting them do all sorts of things on us…
I will say this…Edwards got held like crazy a play ago…but Babs makes up for it on the run defense.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
Ok, it’s obvious, Abraham’s gonna have a career day. They can’t block him.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
Defense keeping us in the game.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
1:29 pm
Was the crapapple joe in the stands? lol
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:30 pm
Abe has been all over the place…Raiders OL clearly sucks, LOL.
Damn near got a second sack.
Chris
October 14th, 2012
1:30 pm
The Falcons seem to have gotten a swolen head a bit. Matt threw into double coverage on the last pick and stared down the receiver on the first one. They have to go out and play the games and put in the work. If we get arrogant the same thing will happen to us that is happening to Green Bay right now.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:30 pm
Big Ray
Point was the defender sniffed the play due to Matt staring down the reciever. I am a Matt defender, but that has been a flaw by him for awhile now.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:30 pm
LOL…. Wabe beat me to it. Hey, I’ll take it.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:33 pm
Big Lou,
Word.
Chris
October 14th, 2012
1:34 pm
Time to settle down and figure this crap out, Smith needs to get in their face and fix the problem. Quit trying to hit a grand slam every play and be smarter than these guys like we know we are. I mean come on, a sweep toss on 3rd and 1. Stop overthinking things and just play the damn game.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:34 pm
Watching Joe Fake-o and the Dallas Schizophrenics during commercials….
Wings
October 14th, 2012
1:38 pm
I think Abraham is having his best season in several years.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
1:39 pm
The aussie is at 118,000 ft, about to jump at 120,000 on Discovery live…
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:39 pm
Big Turner looks good today.
Maybe this is a game where Matty Ice comes back to earth…much to the delight of ESPN.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:40 pm
Julio draggin’ three DBs….damn that boy is strong.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
1:40 pm
You said it Chris, get a couple of singles before hitting the home run.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:40 pm
HD sighting…
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:41 pm
Switch to the no-huddle was a good move.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:41 pm
Laser beams. Ryan seems to be settling down, but let’s get that first TD first.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:42 pm
AWESOME throw. Julio damn near drags three DBs into the endzone.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:43 pm
Let’s not be cute. Turner to endzone.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:43 pm
Or not…lol…
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:43 pm
RW84!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:43 pm
Another bullet. TD this time.
Yep…nothing like the no huddle.
Chris
October 14th, 2012
1:45 pm
Now thats more like it. If they wanna play 2 deep cover shell then pick em apart underneath. Adapt and overcome.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:46 pm
Impressive drive by the Falcons with no-huddle.
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
1:49 pm
“Switch to the no-huddle was a good move.” – Snack
Odd how that always seems to be the case. It begs the question why we don’t stay in it until we have a 3 or more TD lead. It also begs the question why do the plays work when M. Ryan is calling them and not when Koetter is running the show.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:50 pm
Come on, Dunta. Wrap up!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:52 pm
McFadden has some real speed. Need to stop hitting him and start tackling him.
Raiders offense playing with some swagger. We need to take that away. They only average 168 ppg and their offense is ranked 30th in the League. This is ridiculous so far.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:53 pm
Got to give them props for that screen. No red jerseys anywhere.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
1:54 pm
I respect Mike Nolan…
But c’mon dude. Our D-Line has proven more than capable of getting a pass rush so far. Don’t need to be as blitz happy.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:54 pm
I’m sorry…. but our defense looks like ASS out there even with the holding calls.
Raiders offense is ranked 30th in the NFL, we’re making them look like they’re a top 10 offense. They average less than 17 ppg game. I know we’ve held them to a FG, but that ain’t gonna be the case if we keep bleeding yards.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:55 pm
Defense is good at tightening up. Let’s keep them to a FG.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:55 pm
Another first down.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:56 pm
Yeah, um…we’re gonna need a turnover right now, or holding them to a FG will soon be a thing of te past.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:57 pm
Almost a turnover…
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
1:57 pm
D with the stop!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
1:58 pm
watch the fake
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
1:58 pm
Great step up, D. Bend but don’t break.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
1:58 pm
Now that’s the Babineaux I got used to. AWESOME stand.
Raiders are idiots. We won the battle of the trenches, otherwise it’s 6 points.
That tackle for loss was every bit as good as a turnover.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
1:59 pm
Good stop by the D from inside the ten. Not so much when the field is not short. Come on Nolan.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
Big Lou,
My concern is it only takes one break or missed tackle for McFadden or one of those other speedsters to get ahead of the defense….and then they are GONE.
It’s no different than pounding Turner over and over, knowing he may break one any moment. Raiders suck in the redzone, and their OL got ZERO push against us. Thank God or that silly “sweep left” play would have been a TD.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
well, that’s a win. but man are we looking sloppy.
this team has shown to be inconsistent. i know folks will get on me about how we’re 5-0. but we’ve shown to be ok versus the run at times, and then pitiful against the run at others. our offense looks flawless at times, and then is stagnant at others. there’s just something about them.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:02 pm
Wabe, I have to agree with you.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:02 pm
That was plain awful. I put it on Ryan. Even though the coverage was kinda there.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:03 pm
Even at 6-0 there will be a ton of things to fix.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:03 pm
Good penalty call. Saved our butts.
Another pick…due to Ryan being hit right in the face…somebody with awful protection. Looked like center and LG.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:04 pm
wow…
this what a 5-0 team looks like at home?
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:04 pm
Defense still holding up, but if ever we needed some halftime adjustments, now would be the time.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:04 pm
Wabe and Snack,
There are always things to fix. Otherwise coaches would have a part-time job.
Right now, we’re “fixin’” to lose the lead…
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:05 pm
at home versus a terrible Raiders team?
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
2:06 pm
Are just trying to make this game entertaining or are we just giving the game away to get that first loss out of the way? I’d prefer we lose to a much better opponent.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:07 pm
Remember that this Raiders team had a bye week.
I’m thinking the Falcons will adjust and have a great second half.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:07 pm
Two-minute D drill.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
2:08 pm
On that last INT…That one shouldn’t have happen. If there were a time for Ryan to take a sack, that should of been the time.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:08 pm
See….. that is exactly what I’m talking about
One missed tackle and all that speed beats you.
That’s where BEND turns into BREAK.
I have nothing further to say.
Birdman
October 14th, 2012
2:09 pm
are the guys already on the bye
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:09 pm
Horrible execution by the defense and offense today. I think players were reading into their press clippings too much. I’m sick at what I’m seeing right now.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:09 pm
pitiful man…
no excuses for it.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:10 pm
Big Ray
Mike should have made the tackle. Can’t blame that on Nolan. Bend don’t break requires disciplined play.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:11 pm
big lou,
execution, scheme, call it what you will.
i just think it’s obvious Ryan’s struggling, Turner was running the football effective in the touches he’s gotten. Why not ride Turner a bit here? Ryan’s rattled.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:12 pm
It’s simple.
Either we have a much better second half, or we lose this game.
Period.
What I’ve seen so far has been a cross between “awful” and “oops.”
And I disagree about Ryan taking the sack. He was hit as he threw, and he had a guy open.
If he takes the sack, somebody would be yacking about how he held the ball too long and had a guy open, should have made the play.
Protection broke down…as it just did a moment ago.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:12 pm
That O-Line looking like they did against the Panthers.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:13 pm
Go figure…Clabo.
The flaws are showin’ up big time here.
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
2:13 pm
Wow. This garbage performance even has the homers slinging the stink. Looks like I get to take a vacation today. I’ll bitch about us losing in the 4th quarter so we can pull out the win at the end tho
.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:14 pm
Mike should have made the tackle. Can’t blame that on Nolan. Bend don’t break requires disciplined play.
Where did I mention Mike Nolan? This isn’t about Mike Nolan, so I don’t know where you’re getting that idea.
Like I said before “one missed tackle” and you’re in trouble. Clearly tackling is an execution thing.
That’s the problem with all the “bending”…you break when you don’t make the tackle…as we just saw. My point stands, I’m afraid…and I don’t like it one bit.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:14 pm
Big Ray
I agree. The last two INT was blown protection, not Ryan.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:15 pm
Alright, I’m not predicting blowouts anymore. Are we about to be down at the half for the first time this season?
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:16 pm
Speaking of execution….the Raiders suddenly either are executing a pass rush, or our OL is failing to execute pass protection. Take your pick. Either way, something smells badly.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
2:17 pm
The Falcons must open up a touch down or better lead in the second half…if they allow the Raiders to be within a couple of points in the latter stages of the 4th quarter, we’re in trouble. Janikowski will break our hearts with 50+ FG’s…
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:17 pm
snacktastic ,
Unfortunately, yes.
And no Matty Bicep around to give us a statistic that proves Smith has a stellar record when doing so. LOL…
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:18 pm
I think we need Carson to step his game up and start throwing his usual pick sixes
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:19 pm
this offense should be dropping 35 a week easy with the weapons we have…
yet we’ve been letting some of the most suspect defenses in the league slow us down and downright lock us up at times.
Washington’s secondary is one of the worst in the league. They managed to slow us down quite a bit. Oakland hadn’t had an INT all season, they’re flying out East, playing a 5-0 Falcons team. They should’ve gotten blown out. yet they’re going into the half up.
5-0 don’t mean ish man. We know we’re a playoff team. How this team stacks up when we get to the playoffs is what you gotta look out for. And I hope folks see what others have been commenting about. Koetter still hasn’t proven anything. I’m not concerned with Nolan. The run defense needs work, but that’ll get more attention when we play teams that rely on the run game (good teams, not the Raiders). The offense is suspect though. This team should have ZEROOOOOOO TROUBLEEEEE scoring points. They should be knockin’ on the door with the likes of the 16-0 Pats offense, 09 Saints, 10-11 Packers. We should be handling teams.
Remember what we said, you have to have either a DOMINANT OFFENSE or a DOMINANT DEFENSE. Through 5 1/2 games this year, you can’t seriously tell me that either side of the ball for us has been dominant.
Chris
October 14th, 2012
2:20 pm
Can someone please explain to me what the heck is wrong with these guys? I am still of the mind that they underestimated the Raiders and aren’t taking every team seriously. Therein lies my comment on arrogance. They need to be grounded and return the focus that has been missing in the last 2 1/2 games.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:20 pm
Don’t the Raiders get the ball to start the 2nd half?
I hate to lose, and lose like this at home.
And I’m not saying we’re going to lose…but I will also add this unhappy caveat….
Tis’ better to lose earlier in the season and get that bad taste in your mouth for your sorry-ass efforts…to teach you a much-needed lesson…than to lose like this later in the season when you should be gelling better…and have it cost you more. Like in the postseason…
Meanwhile the talking heads are having a field day with this.
“ooooohhhh, Ryan’s not elite…bwaahahahahahaaaaa”
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:22 pm
Big Ray
You played defense. It’s always about tackling, no matter what type of defense it is.
I really think the players need to look at themselves in the mirror during half-time.
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:23 pm
Wabe, we were dominant in the kicking game!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:24 pm
Wabe ,
You’re right, I sure hope folks who have been giving you ish now see what you see. Because that will surely make a difference in how the Falcons play if all bloggers agree to be critical at the same level.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:24 pm
Still don’t think we lose…
But, it’s not all about wins and losses for me, especially on certain weeks, this being one of those weeks. There’s no reason we shouldn’t win this game comfortably. I think I’ve made that point quite clear at this point. You have to smack certain teams around.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:26 pm
Big Lou ,
I seriously think they have become enamored with their own SportsCenter highlights.
Oh, it’s great when you can throw a shoulder into somebody or slap at them and make them fumble. But those are plays that happen once, twice, MAYBE three times in a game. The rest of the time, it’s all tackling.
I’m sick of watching these guys “throw” hits at the opposition, only to watch the guy shrug it off and get 20 more yards…making us look like azz clowns on the field.
I’m also sick of all these failed shoe-string tackles. Quit grabbing guys by the shoe laces and start wrapping them up .
WTF…you learn that in high school for crying out loud.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:26 pm
I’m thinking we’ll fix our issues in the second half, but this game really should have been a cake walk. Maybe that bye week did more for the Raiders than I thought it would.
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:26 pm
This team has been one of the least penalized teams again. This team goes as its discipline goes.
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:27 pm
Can’t look sloppy.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:27 pm
Wabe,
That’s right…bring the smack down!
I also think this is exactly why Asante Samuel rated the defense a “mere” 5 out of 10 last time he was asked.
Seems he was right.
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:28 pm
BR, we also haven’t been rallying to the ball well turning the misses into big gains.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:28 pm
Wabe
I am going to concede that the offensive line is not cutting it this year. It’s truly pathetic to watch 2 INT by Ryan due to poor protection. This team has a long way to go before even making noise in the playoffs.
I’m looking for half-time adjustments. I’m still very disappointed in the players do far this game.
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:30 pm
I am glad Dierdorff made that point. They have been a good second half team. Get it done.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:33 pm
Now there’s the defense that has pride.
Nolan got in somebody’s ass with a hot poker, I bet.
Either that or a veteran spoke up.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:34 pm
uga b ,
Damn fine points.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:35 pm
Actually, I’m betting Smitty lost his damn mind in the locker room, LOL.
“This is what I get for letting y’all off on Monday and Tuesday after the last win??!!!”
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
2:35 pm
2nd half, 3 and out. The raiders have scored the only points they will get this game. Now, how much do we want to win by?
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:36 pm
And the offense starts with Turner getting shoe-stringed in the backfield.
sigh
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:37 pm
Yeah, and we miss Dahl in the run game…still
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:37 pm
Offense is still bogged.
Why are we not running the no huddle?
LRD
October 14th, 2012
2:38 pm
So just got home… are we playing this badly, or is the Raiders playing this good?
JJ
October 14th, 2012
2:39 pm
Once again we are playing down to our competition. We shouldawouldacoulda be up by 14 but not executing and see no fire in the team…need the leaders of the team to kick some asses…starting with cooter!!!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:40 pm
Matt Ryan moved down the field with ease when we came out empty set and just chucked it around.
Even the commentator just said how depleted the Raiders secondary is. How they have safeties playing corner just to fill in the spots. Spread them out, and move the ball around.
I’m not comfortable seeing Ryan coming out under center right now. I think the pressure’s getting to him. Those 3 picks are in his head.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:40 pm
I’m trying to keep thing objective, but these Falcons are really starting to piss me off. But, if they lose, I’m glad it will happen now, before the bye week. Then the coaches can get in their azz for 2 weeks.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
2:40 pm
And next FG, plz turn the label toward the tv!
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:41 pm
Papa Lion sighting
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:41 pm
Aggravating. We can play wonderful defense all game long.
Won’t matter if we don’t score. They can play smittyball the rest of the game if they want…if we can’t FREAKIN SCORE!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:42 pm
Big Lou ,
I knew you were human….LOL.
I agree completely, it’s kinda like I was saying earlier…better for this to happen NOW…and that’s regardless of all the inevitable “But it shouldn’t have happened!” comments…
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:42 pm
Wow
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:44 pm
Dent just nailed McFadden, who thought he had an open hole.
NOPE!
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
2:44 pm
That’s the roll-over coverage that fooled Peyton but Palmer threaded it. crap
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
2:45 pm
Until I see the Falcons come out (play) with a sense of urgency on both sides of the ball at start of games…we’re not a Super Bowl caliber team!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:45 pm
Defense holds up again.
Will the offense move the ball please?
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
2:47 pm
Sooo many people predicted the Falcon win with the raiders scoring 13. They’ve upheld their side, its time we do our part. Oakland, this year, has been outscored 30 trillion to nothing in the third 3rd quarter. We need to play like we know we can and get this suspense over.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:48 pm
Ryan under pressure on EVERY play.
This is not good. Koetter doesn’t seem to know how to deal with it either. Makes Ryan look like…Gabbert…
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:49 pm
I’ll take it…
LRD
October 14th, 2012
2:49 pm
welcome to the circus folks
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:49 pm
HD! Talk about a lucky break!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:49 pm
OMG….hell of a catch by Douglas.
Good look by Ryan, but the defender makes a pick if he just turns his head.
Lady Luck on that one.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
2:50 pm
that is kinda break that can get the Mo bug on ourside….
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:50 pm
Excellent screen that time.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:50 pm
empty set…
just keep him in it man.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:51 pm
Dangerous throw.
Might we mix some runs in here?
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:51 pm
What is Ryan DOING?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:52 pm
Too strong on the pass…
Ryan’s throws are not in rhythm and we know why…he’s getting hit on damn near every pass play.
OL play is absolutely PATHETIC.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:52 pm
wow man….
this unbelievable.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:52 pm
Great pass under duress….HD drops it.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:53 pm
Ryan did well to evade the pressure, but we’re leaving way too many plays out there.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:53 pm
HD then drops a pass. SMH.
Execution, people!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:54 pm
Ok…so here’s the game plan for the rest of the game.
1) Play good defense, don’t let the Raiders score…not even a FG.
2) Dink and dunk until we get within Matt Bryan’s range. He’s the only reliable offense we have right now.
3) Two more FGs gives us a squeaker of a win. Wait…better make it three just in case.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:55 pm
Looks like our defense is going to have to win the game. Offense is inconsistent.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:55 pm
Yeah HD dropped it…
But even if he caught that, we’re still 4 yards short of the 1st down.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:55 pm
Agreed…execution. I don’t know how many ways you can say “block this guy” or “catch the ball”.
The way our OL is playing against a sorry Raider defense is just…is there a word to describe it?
Makes you wish for our two rookies…
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:57 pm
EDWARDS SHOWS UP!
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:57 pm
Yup.
I’m definitely a prophet.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
2:57 pm
Plus the strip by the Predator!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
2:58 pm
MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
I got Falcons defense on my fantasy football team man.
F*&$$$&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:58 pm
Hell yeah…great play by Abe and Ray Edwards.
Time to punch this one in.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
2:59 pm
A catch is a catch. The guy who catches it short of a first down on one play is the guy who might also make that LONG TD catch later.
Lack of execution on all levels bothers me.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
2:59 pm
Wabe
True. But it’s closer field goal range.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:00 pm
RUN THE BALLLLLLLLLLL
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
3:01 pm
Guys, I hate to break it to ya…the gig is up! Our offense has been found out…we’ve been effectively, defensively schemed dating back to the panthers game. Our wonderboy Koetter hasn’t made the necessary adjustments to counter. Just my opinion.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:01 pm
OL looks shaky at best in pass protection…and the raiders front 4 sukk!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:02 pm
they missed that…
that was a false start.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:02 pm
That folks is just horrible
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
3:02 pm
Really?!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:02 pm
Really?
Really?
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:02 pm
How many ways can you possibly fail to SCORE A TD??!!!!
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:02 pm
Good grief. No excuse for not getting in with the ball basically on the goal line.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:03 pm
you’ve got to be kiding me man.
patheticccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:03 pm
Bad playcalled and terrible blocking…samantha!!!
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
3:04 pm
Yes, really.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:04 pm
obviously the raiders want this game more than we do…
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
3:04 pm
Just about had it with this crap. After 4 years and we still cannot move a ball 2 inches forward…it is time for heads to roll.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:05 pm
No….there is no scheme issue…I don’t know an OC that con overcome the world’s absolutely most suck-ass pathetic blocking.
I’m literally ashamed of our OL, and they should be ashamed of themselves.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:05 pm
Well, why was Snelling running in that situation? That’s a Turner type run. That’s on the coaching staff.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
3:05 pm
Don’t really understand the play calling on that series!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:07 pm
Bad playcalling was what we saw LAST week.
This week, no play has a chance because we can’t freaking block.
And we can’t give the credit to the Raiders because they aren’t THAT good on defense…although they are ranked ahead of US.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:07 pm
I concur on the blocking. OL has backs running into a wall most of the time, at the goal line or any other line.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:07 pm
D will have to win this game with turnovers, as BL prophesised.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:08 pm
Gashed again….
and a penalty on top of it. Guess who? Akeem Dent.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:09 pm
More ankle tackling…and we’re bleeding yards again.
Need another turnover. But we won’t get it if we keep letting them run the way we are.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:09 pm
Dent misses another ankle tackle.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:09 pm
We need to get our D off the field.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:10 pm
Good thing the Raiders are penalty prone, or they’d be across midfield and threatening to break our very bendable defense.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:11 pm
This is where great defenses shine. Let’s see what they got.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:12 pm
Walker with great penetration.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:12 pm
Don’t give up a big play on 3rd.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:13 pm
LOL….Raiders holding like a drunk prom date…
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:13 pm
Id still bet my last penny that we will win because of mattyice but this is embarrasing. Playcalling, OL and Dent have all underperformed. Some flak has to go to HC Smith for the team coming out flat AGAIN. Yea players are not executing but little fire or urgency on both sides!
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:13 pm
Raiders penalties starting to stack up; we need to take advantage.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:13 pm
Good job D. I believe in you.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:14 pm
“Holding like a drunk prom date”? Never heard that one before.
Wings
October 14th, 2012
3:15 pm
The offense today looks like a cross from last year’s offense and the offense that the Falcons can actually become. Where are the swing passes to Quizz and less Turner.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
3:15 pm
OK Falcons, F’ Off time is over!!!! Play like you know how, NOW!
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
3:15 pm
We got some big boys on the sidelines ready to play on the O-line, why in the hell will we not let them play? This O-line sucks!!!
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:15 pm
BR, great line!
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:17 pm
No huddle for the rest of the game,dont trust cooter!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:17 pm
I don’t know how much more of this I can take.
I take that back….I don’t know how much more of this Matt Ryan can take.
He’s gonna get hurt the way our OL is playing.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:17 pm
Hell of a throw!
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:17 pm
Holy Sheeet.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:18 pm
dam nice snag… now lets do something with this… way matt is walking around.. he is looking/acting like he is a hurtin
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:18 pm
Great pass by Ryan…great catch by Julio.
And now the Oakland A-hole coach wants to challenge the pass because he knows we can’t duplicate the play…with the OL playing the way they are.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:19 pm
Matt is a soldier. He is getting creamed out there.
Wings
October 14th, 2012
3:20 pm
Got to get the ball to White and Tony. Make first down work!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:20 pm
Ryan may as well try out for “Dancing with the Stars” with this gawdawful excuse for blocking…
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:21 pm
OMIGOD….WTF….F@CK you, Oakland.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:22 pm
Now we punt out of the end zone.
Defense has to stand up for us once again.
Meanwhile Matt Bosher proves that TD knew what the hell he was doing in the 6th round a couple of years ago.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:23 pm
COME ON DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:23 pm
Ha…that’s called KARMA Oakland…
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:24 pm
Raiders have 100 yards of penalties? Damn.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:24 pm
Hell yeah…defense pushed McFadden back and out of bounds.
Weatherspoon started all of that.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:25 pm
Make the stop. We need a short field and a score.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
3:25 pm
It’s 0-0, who has the best team?
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:25 pm
Gave up a big play on third down. Hope that doesn’t come back to bite us.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:25 pm
Wow…
Where was the blitz?
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:26 pm
Moore…welcome to our angry defense.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:27 pm
Really?
WTF….the defense is looking tired. Need a PLAY.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:27 pm
about to throw my cat thru the tv.. this is ridiculous…
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:28 pm
Good play by Spoon. Excellent closing speed.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
3:28 pm
Role reversal, Raiders offensive coordinator calling better plays than ours…
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:28 pm
3rd down stop!
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:29 pm
Defense makes another play.
Let’s go offense!
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
3:29 pm
BR, there you go.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:29 pm
Good push by…was that Vance Walker?
Heck of a stand by the defense. They had me worried for a minute there.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:29 pm
Defense giving us a chance. Offense has to step up.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:30 pm
JB,
Yep. There’s our playmaker. Spoon. And then I think Vance.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:31 pm
Raiders winning time of possession and total offensive yards. We need to do something about that, because it’s just shameful.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:32 pm
ok, let drive the field, get tony g his 100th TD and then have D put them down.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:32 pm
Nice run by Ryan. He usually slides too soon to get the first down, but not that time.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:32 pm
Matty Ice says “f@ck it…I’ll just run”…
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
3:33 pm
Matt that made up for one of your INT’S!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:33 pm
Good run by Turner. Need some more of that. Maybe it will open up our passing game…which has no protection.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:34 pm
TonyG has only 19yds…come on cooter!!!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:34 pm
Good lord…we just can’t get it going.
This is awful. My keyboard is in danger…
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:34 pm
how is that not interference?
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
3:35 pm
Koetter calling a horiffic game!!!!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:35 pm
Bosher continues to give us a chance by making sure the opposing offense has a LOT of real estate to cover.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:35 pm
Does that make any sense?
3rd and 1, lets run TG up the field on a streak…?
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:35 pm
What? We didn’t go for it?
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:35 pm
I guess defenders don’t have to look at the ball anymore. Great job, refs.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:35 pm
Time for a turnover to seal lthis game!!!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:37 pm
we deserve to lose…
3 INT’s.
Missed FG.
Couldn’t cash in on a drive that started on their 1.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:37 pm
D has been on the field too long already. I can’t believe they’ve kept them from scoring this long.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:37 pm
Go for it? With what? We can’t push the pile for sh!t today. We go for it, we’re liable to lose yardage.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:38 pm
Predict SP going “ape sh!t over cooters playcalling…but half the blame has to be on OL.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:38 pm
Yeah. Defense has been on the field way too long.
Giving up too much yardage. Raiders could really get some mojo going if we don’t make a play.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
3:39 pm
#52 can’t shed block…make a tackle!
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:39 pm
And just as I say that, they start driving down the field.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:40 pm
Yeah, well it would be easy to jump all over Koetter for this.
I maintain that you can’t even judge playcalling when your QB has little more than a second to make a decision with the ball. Sometimes he’s had literally less than that.
I blame MORE than half on the OL.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
SAMUEL! PICK SIX!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
WHJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
AWWWWWWWESOOOOOOOOME!!!!!!
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
THANK YOU LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
The prophet strikes again!!!!!!!
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
oh wow… and almost very embarrassing for samuels too. but wow…
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:41 pm
YEA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6-0
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
3:42 pm
A win is a win! Maybe.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:42 pm
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:42 pm
I told you!!!! Bam!
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
3:42 pm
OH YEAH, YOU TOO ASHATE…..
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:42 pm
The defense makes it’s best play all day long after getting NO HELP from the offense…they decide to score!
Freakin’ awesome. But we’re not out of the dark yet.
Poor defense has to go back on the field and hold yet again.
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
3:43 pm
Not gonna go apeshit lol. I’m just not gonna send the “win” mojo this time. We derserve to lose and lose we shall. Koetter won’t ever get fired if I keep pulling out wins at the last second
.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:43 pm
Nah….Samuel was wise to stop. He had 4-5 teammates to block for him…and Palmer would have stopped him if he didn’t put on the brakes.
Wise move, I say.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
3:43 pm
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:43 pm
BR, our very tired D..
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
3:43 pm
Blog blah monster blah go away
Not gonna go apeshit lol. I’m just not gonna send the “win” mojo this time. We derserve to lose and lose we shall. Koetter won’t ever get fired if I keep pulling out wins at the last second
.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:44 pm
Now we need a stop. Can’t let that play go to waste.
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
3:44 pm
Blog blah monster blah go away
Let me post please
Not gonna go apeskittles lol. I’m just not gonna send the “win” mojo this time. We derserve to lose and lose we shall. Koetter won’t ever get fired if I keep pulling out wins at the last second
.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:44 pm
BR, I concur. Samuel made the right move.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
3:44 pm
Keep our O-line off the field and we have a chance!
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
3:45 pm
Thank you Carson for stepping up like I asked
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:45 pm
ALMOST had the second pick!
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:45 pm
Samuel, put down the pipe n get back out there!!!
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:46 pm
Mac with the pick… oh man…..
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:46 pm
I think we see why McClain made the team…next time make that play little fella, but I ain’t mad at ya.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:47 pm
SP ,
Ha. Lose to fire a Coordinator. LOL….
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:49 pm
You know….as much as we have to b!tch about in this game as far as execution…and there is a LOT….
There is something to be said for the Raiders and their plethora of perpetuated penalties…
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:49 pm
SP
I still want the Falcons to win. Everyone and their momma knows the Falcons have work to do.
Still, you got to give credit to the defense.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:50 pm
that is pathetic.
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
3:50 pm
Le sigh
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:50 pm
I don’t know who needs the Rolaids more…Mike Smith or me…
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:50 pm
I don’t want this to go to overtime. Make the stop.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:50 pm
Defense is tired. They gotta dig deep.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
3:51 pm
MF’er Sh!t!!!
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:52 pm
Palmer attacks Chris Owen…
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:52 pm
Damn.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:53 pm
Too much pressure on the defense. Shouldn’t be this way.
Big Lou , your propheteering skills suck.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:53 pm
so… can we get down down into Bryant range in 40 secs…
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
3:53 pm
I guess it is nice to see some good run blocking. Matty Ice time and Matty Bryant time
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:53 pm
And yes, I made that word up.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:53 pm
Alright. No reason why it should have come to this, but…it’s MATTY ICE TIME.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:54 pm
So can our OL give Matt Ryan protection for 35 seconds?
They haven’t for the last 59 minutes and 20 seconds…
JJ
October 14th, 2012
3:54 pm
Too much pressure on the defense. Shouldn’t be this way.
Big Lou , your propheteering skills suck.
lol litte ray! (soon to be after surgery-congrats!)
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
3:55 pm
Big Ray
Not really, defense played a heck of a game. If they win, it’s due to the play of then, not the offense.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
3:58 pm
GROWL….
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
3:59 pm
MATT BRYANT TIME.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
3:59 pm
Cmon money man…. Cmon 6-0…
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
BOOM! 6-0!
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LRD
October 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
holy snikies…
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
YESSSSSSIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
JJ
October 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
YES….6-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
4:01 pm
I am also a prophet apparently but it scares me. Good to win
uga_b
October 14th, 2012
4:02 pm
Wabe, dominant kicking game
JJ
October 14th, 2012
4:02 pm
SHITTY WIN…but well take it!!!
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
4:03 pm
I had no doubts what so ever that we would win this game. UHH, I’m not a good at being untruthful.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
4:05 pm
Three games, three game-winning drives by Ryan, with two game-winning kicks by Bryant.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
4:05 pm
THERE’S OFFICIALLY A NEW MATTY ICE IN TOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUR KICKING (SPECIALS TEAM) ARE THE ONLY CONTANT ON THE TEAM…MHO…
JJ
October 14th, 2012
4:06 pm
Congrats smitty on tying Reves for most wins!
You have allot of work to go so dont settle on this win, you need to amp up your coaching and assistance…but congrats!!!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
4:06 pm
Big Lou ,
The defense saved the game for us. I agree. Well, them and Matt Bryant. And I totally agree that losing would be on the offense. In fact, the struggles were on the offense. But the defense did not play well enough to WIN this game for us, as evidenced by us needing to march down the field and nail a FG to cinch this….because they gave up a TD in the waning seconds.
But I also believe this is due to them being on the field too much and not executing enough at the same time. I really think they were on the field too much.
Here’s the evidence:
1) Raiders average 318 yards per game, and 16.8 ppg.
2) Our defense gave up 20 points (not that bad) and damn near 500 yards of offense. Anytime you give up more than the team generally averages, you didn’t quite do your job. Especially when that other team is ranked 30th in the League .
Again…not blaming them as much as the offense, by far. But they didn’t win the game, either. Gives them stuff to work on. Give up that many yards to a better offense and you will flat out lose, because better offenses will turn those yards into points.
That’s all I’m saying.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:06 pm
Yup. Defense and Matt Bryant gets the game ball.
Offense didn’t show up. If I was Mike Smith, they wouldn’t get a week off.
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
4:07 pm
“SP ,
Ha. Lose to fire a Coordinator. LOL….” – BR
Can’t tell if it’s the saying we deserve to lose or cursing Koetter that makes the magic happen so I did both
.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
4:09 pm
Offense didn’t show up. If I was Mike Smith, they wouldn’t get a week off.
Totally agreed. I’d be working the crap out of the OL.
And I’d be giving Konz a look. Maybe Holmes, too.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:10 pm
Big Ray
I understand your point, but the offense had a lot of three and outs. The Raiders destroyed the Falcons on time of possession. I don’t care if your San Fransisco, you only can keep it up so long.
Still, the defense showed heart. They still need to work on tackling. My prediction wasn’t that they will be flawless, I just said the defense will have to win the game.
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
4:10 pm
“Offense didn’t show up. If I was Mike Smith, they wouldn’t get a week off.” – BL
We can finally agree on something…yay!! That being said, we can start the drama up again on Tuesday when it gets boring again.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
4:15 pm
Raiders offense didn’t come close to beating our defense today, ours did.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
4:15 pm
Defense made some timely plays. They weren’t as good as they need to be. Just ask Asante…he made a hell of a play on the INT return…but he also got burnt a couple times.
I’ll always take the win. Always.
But I have no good mojo left for this one. I just don’t.
The offense…I don’t even want to see those guys right now. Less so the QB and skill players because Turner had some good runs, Ryan made some VERY accurate throws when he had the time, and the WRs made some plays…Quizz got us into FG range nearly all by himself. Didn’t drop the ball, but also should have gotten out of bounds on one of those plays.
But there were bad throws by Ryan and the biggest offenders BY FAR was the OL…they were just plain horrific.
But if you think the defense gets a game ball, then you are ignoring the miles and miles of penalties the Raiders had .
They beat themselves to death with penalties. Now consider that they still managed to roll up 474 yards on us.
Call me a homer any other day and I won’t get mad. But today we deserved to lose. The Raiders just deserved it slightly more because they ARE losers.
We are winners who arguably did not do enough to win.
And with that, I’m out.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:16 pm
SP
I usually agree with you on a lot of things, just not coaching vs player debate. But, like I said, this game was my measuring stick on the defensive run game(they did great most of the game) and the offensive line. The offensive line is horrible and now I know that Wabe, you, and a couple others are correct. The offensive line will cost use down the road.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
4:17 pm
Almost can’t blame the D for giving up that last touchdown; it was inevitable that they’d start to fall apart after being on the field for more than half the game. However, they definitely kept us in it.
As for the offense, I put most of the blame on the offensive line. You could see that Ryan was under pressure most of the game.
As much as we need the break for players to get rest and get healthy, it’s just as important that the use the by to fix the glaring issues from the past few games. I wouldn’t be surprised if the players decided not to take the week off of their own volition.
trademark
October 14th, 2012
4:19 pm
Said it once, saying it again….schedule…MATTERS
Played a west coast game after a short week…W
Played a division team coming off an extra 3 days rest (Carolina)….W
Played a team coming off a bye week and desperate for a win….W
Schedule TRIED to screw us….Result?
6-0 (Sucks to be you schedule maker)
GO FALCONS!
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
4:20 pm
I understand your point, but the offense had a lot of three and outs. The Raiders destroyed the Falcons on time of possession. I don’t care if your San Fransisco, you only can keep it up so long.
That was what I said in the first place, but you were too busy prophecying and said I was wrong, MORPHEUS….
Still, the defense showed heart. They still need to work on tackling. My prediction wasn’t that they will be flawless, I just said the defense will have to win the game.
I agree, except they did not win the game …they would have if they hadn’t given up the TD that forced a 40 second FG drive from us at the end That tied the game…so the defense did NOT win it.
Thank GOD the replacement refs are gone and the regular refs are there or you can forget about the Raiders negating half of their scoring drives with penalties.
You can disagree all you like…but it won’t change the facts. The defense made plays. But they also gave up a ton of them. Not enough to win the game. Enough to tie it.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:20 pm
Big Ray
Again, I think the defense has a long way to go on technique. They still get the game ball for standing strong, after being on the field for almost 3/4 the game. They are not perfect, but last years defense would have made this game a upset blowout for the Raiders.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
4:21 pm
Coop, congrats…cowgirls lose!!!
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:24 pm
Point is, if Asante did not have the INT, it would have been a loss anyways. Penalties or not. We are agreeing, just nick picking on stupid things. We both agree the defense has work to do. I just said they get the game ball for changing the momentum. Get rest, Big Ray. We are in the same page.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
4:25 pm
I totally agree…can’t leave the defense on the field that long. But the defense was getting gashed left and right in the first half as well. AGAIN…penalties bailed us out as often as not.
Look at the damn facts….how did Palmer get 325 yards on only 23 completed passes? Because he averaged more than a first down per play…10+ yards. THAT is a defensive problem.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
4:28 pm
We are agreeing, just nick picking on stupid things. We both agree the defense has work to do. I just said they get the game ball for changing the momentum.
Well you’re on target….I’m a full time picker of nits some days…
I DO appreciate the momentum that our defense gave us. Lord knows the offense gave us next to nothing. Really ticked me off.
I’m just pissed about the tackling technique, like you are. Everything can’t be a sportscenter highlight. The fundamentals are what really wins games.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
4:28 pm
Bottom line, I’m happy with the win. It’s good to be undefeated at 6-0.
But, as usual, this ain’t gonna cut it in the long haul. They’ve got to tighten up in so many areas. The run defense, the offensive line, the offense in general.
You’ve got to be dominant on one side of the football. We’ve been somewhat middle of the pack, IMO, on both sides. Quote all the statistics you want, but they’re too inconsistent on both sides of the ball to say they’re anything better than that. Yeah, we’re 6-0, and you don’t wanna take any of those wins lightly, but they haven’t really beaten anybody worth a name yet. Our greatest victory came out in SD 27-3. That’s a good win, but they’re not really much of a threat to do anything this season.
This offense needs to get more consistent. When you see Ryan standing back there going through read after read, pumping, and just holding the ball, that usually means there’s a problem with something we’ve called. How do you have every read (Julio, Roddy, TG, Harry) covered? I don’t believe our WR corp can really be stopped. Slowed down? Maybe, but not stopped. They’ve got to get this offense R O L L I N’. They can’t be a ‘good’ offense, they have to be a great one. This team will go as far as Ryan and the boys take em’. As of now, they’re sittin’ pretty at 6-0, but it’s clearly not together. There’s definitely work that needs to be done. And Smitty/Koetter/Nolan better use this bye week to really look at that tape and get themselves together. Some drives, we score with ease, and then at other points in the game, we go completely stagnant.
Too inconsistent. Even if we’re 6-0, the inconsistency is definitely there.
Big Ray
October 14th, 2012
4:28 pm
If I missed tackles like that I’d be doing grass drills until I threw up or passed out.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
4:29 pm
I said last week the, Falcons should buy Dent a one-way greyhound ticket out of town, I’ve changed my mine…they should drop him off on 85 north, let’em use the ole right thumb…
LRD
October 14th, 2012
4:29 pm
FFL alert but ties into our game… Ryan in our FFL brought me just 8 points this week. and avg’d 20….
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
4:31 pm
I agree with the tackling. I just think that’s how they’re being coached up. They’re going for the ball every single play. And if you’re gonna coach them up like that, you’re gonna see a lot of missed tackles.
I remember Saints fans complaining about the same deal with Gregg Williams. It worked well for them in their Superbowl run when they were generating the turnovers, but then it just look like a terrible tackling team when the turnovers weren’t coming for them.
We love the turnovers, but hate the missed tackles. But, I think it’s a given that they’ll be looking to strip that ball and miss tackles. Sucks to see guys get so many YAC, but it is what it is. It’s the way they’re being coached.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
4:31 pm
6 and 0 or not. It is time to make changes on the O-line. The line is not good at all and they will cost us a big game. You can blame play calling, scheme or what ever but these boys suck as a unit. And give me that ZBS BS.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:32 pm
You’re right. He did gash them. Not disputing that. Still, just like we give Matt Ryan credit for winning the Panther game, I will give it to the defense for making that play.
Time of possession:
Falcons: 36
Raiders: 23
Offensive turnovers: 3
Defensive turnovers: 2
I doubt the Raiders would have that many yards if we kept them off the field, and were not a pathetic 2-9 on third downs. Yards are an overrated stat. Points matter.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:33 pm
Sorry, switch the time of possession numbers.
Chop Buster
October 14th, 2012
4:33 pm
Wooohoooo! What a game today. This one had me on the edge of my couch all afternoon. I’ll take a ugly win anyday. 6-0 baby! Now let’s clean up the poor tackling and tentativeness attacking the opponent’s defense. We played right into the Raider’s game today instead of still attempting to attack them deep. OL was a C today. Oh well, we’re still on top of the NFC.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
4:36 pm
I honestly see the offense as one that still doesn’t quite have an identity.
I get it, they know they want to be a passing team. But, what type of passing team? That’s something I still don’t think they know. We saw Ryan take 7 sacks against Carolina, and the reasoning behind it? They wanted to take advantage of that Panthers secondary, particularly the safety, in the vertical passing game. Well, that resulted in 7 sacks.
I think some of that holds true with what we saw today too. I’m not sure, because I can’t really see the back end of things and how the routes are developing, but, we weren’t really dinking and dunking as much. I’m not a huge ‘dink and dunk’ fan. Wouldn’t mind seeing some more intermediate ‘catch receivers in stride’ type stuff. I just don’t think we did a very good job with the playcalling, protection, execution, whatever it was, it was bad.
Curious to see how they look coming out of the bye.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:37 pm
Wabe
You’re right to an extent. This is coached to be a turnover, bend don’t break D. Yet, tackles like Dunta, where he just go for hits(not even the ball) is not from coaching. If they miss tackles going for the ball(Like Asante on Raiders final drive) then yes.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
4:37 pm
I mean don’t give me that ZBS BS.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
4:38 pm
The haters are going to spend the next two weeks claiming we didn’t deserve this win, or the wins against the Skins and the Panthers. But I haven’t seen one single person say the Texans were horrible for just barely beating the Jets.
Simply put, when you turn the ball over three times the way we did, you probably should lose. Except when you don’t and that means you did something to DESERVE THE WIN. Yes, the Raiders had a bunch of penalties. You can say that’s shows how bad the Raiders are, or you can say that since most of those penalties were on the Raiders offensive line, the Falcon’s defensive line was beating then and forcing them to commit those penalties. There were at least two more obvious holds that I saw that weren’t called and a horrible non-call on a pass interference committed against Tony G on a critical 3rd down pass in the 4th quarter.
Defense got it done today, in spite of being on the field far too much. The Raiders, as bad as their record is, had time to prepare and have talent enough to have been in the conversation at the beginning of the year as one of the teams to watch in the AFC.
The offensive line didn’t do that bad a job today, but the Raiders defense was all over our usual patterns, and MR2 stared down a lot of receivers which led to even better coverage. The Raiders also brought a lot of extra pressure, but still only got to Matt Ryan a couple of times.
If “ifs” and “buts” were wishes and nuts, then everyone would have a merry Christmas. Good teams do what they have to do to win ball games. Great teams do it when it matters.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
4:40 pm
I celebrate the 6-0 start, props to the Owner, Coaching Staff and Players.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:40 pm
Wabe
Ryan reminds me of Brady.
Dink, dunk, with the occasional shot down field. That’s how they should game play the passing. But, as you said, I am interested to see what they do against the Eagles(who have on of the best pass rushers in the NFL).
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
4:45 pm
Dhunt, the difference between us and the Texans is, they never trailed in that game against the Jets, at least not that I remember.
They were playing from ahead the whole game, held double-digit leads at multiple points in that game. Yeah, the score at the end seemed tight, but I never really thought they’d lose that game. At best, they’d give up a tieing TD.
The Falcons on the other hand, have looked like a team that’ll lose in at least 2 out of the last 3 games now. They easily could’ve lost vs. the Panthers and then this week as well.
I’m not hating here. But, gotta call it like it is. Can’t play inferior opponents AT HOME the way we have the past couple of weeks. Gotta put them in their place. Giving up 400+ yards of total offense to the Raiders, unacceptable. Not moving the ball at will against the Raiders defense, unacceptable. It is what it is. Getting sacked 7 times against the Panthers? Unacceptable. Having a goose egg on the scoreboard through 2 quarters against the Redskins? Unacceptable.
They shouldn’t be struggling offensively against any of those defenses. They should be scoring at will.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
4:46 pm
Easy with your comparisons there Big Lou.
Wings
October 14th, 2012
4:48 pm
Wabe,
I agree with all you said last week and all you have said today. Why aren’t the Falcons putting teams away and scoring at will.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:49 pm
Dhunt
Good point. It wasn’t false starts(which is only on the offense), but holding penalties. Those are plays that show the defensive line was doing well.
As for Matt staring down the reciever, I agree on the first INT. the other two where him getting hit as he threw. That’s more on the Oline. They also did horrible on running the ball, especially on that 2 yards and goal series. Offense didn’t do well at all…
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
4:51 pm
So why was this game so close? Other than the obvious turnovers? Offense couldn’t get one or two yards in crucial situations. First and goal on the two yard line after defense forces a fumble, you simply cannot settle for the field goal. Running wide on 3rd and inches on the goal line is a recipe for disaster unless you have a back with the speed to bounce it outside when the whole defense collapses inside. Snelling isn’t that guy, and really neither is Quizz. Automatic Matt Bryant misses what for him should be a gimme field goal early. That’s 7 more points that would have changed the whole tone of the game.
The offense today was about a D, and that was scheme and execution. And yet we still won. That’s huge because there is simply no way this offense continues to perform at that low level.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:51 pm
Tell me why the comparison to Brady is a bad comparison?
I’m talking about strengths and weaknesses, not what they have accomplished.
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
4:53 pm
“MR2 stared down a lot of receivers which led to even better coverage.” – DHunt
What website is streaming M. Ryan’s helmet cam during the game? I would love to know so I can see what all the trolls on “that” board and the other people that keep making this claim see. I find it odd that M. Ryan is supposedly staring down receivers when I saw him running for his life and getting pounded most of the day. Maybe he is staring at the unbelievable fact our playcalling is allowing defenses to triple cover all our receivers on alot of plays. I find myself staring in disbelief that a simple cover two scheme is giving a 6-7 year NFL OC like Koetter fits for 3 straight games now.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
4:55 pm
Last year we complained the Team didn’t have enough swagger, this year they’ve aquired just the right amount, thing is, they don’t know how to quite harness it, use it to their advantage.
This team (Falcons) thought they could just show up and win…THE RAIDERS ARE EXACTLY WHO THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE! Never underestimate your oponent, any given Sunday….
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
4:56 pm
Wabe, this is the NFL man. Yes it would be lovely if we just scored on teams at will, but that’s not always going to be the case. Less that 5 years ago the prevailing mantra was “defense wins championships”. Now all of a sudden we should be able to score every possession? That just seems like an unreasonable fan reaction to me. Consider that we have moved the ball at will on most occasions even in the last three games, most notably today when we were in the no-huddle, and on the final game winning drive. Like Coach Smith has said, our turnovers have been at the most inopportune moments, and that has affected out ability to score at will. I bet Green Bay, who never trailed against the Colts until they lost, thought they were in control of that game too.
Wings
October 14th, 2012
4:58 pm
SP – “Maybe he is staring at the unbelievable fact our playcalling is allowing defenses to triple cover all our receivers on alot of plays. ”
My gut says it is the play calling which seems disjointed. I can’t prove it. Too many running losses on first down today.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
4:59 pm
Dhunt
SP is correct. Matt Ryan only stared down the reciever on the first INT. It was blatant on the replay. Matt had poor protection the rest of the game. Didn’t you see him wincing off the field in the 3rd quarter? He had 8 hit on him today, 1 sack.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
5:00 pm
Big Lou, I will give you that the last pick was when MR2 was taking a hit. But the 2nd one he stared at Julio the whole time, which is why the defender was able to break off his assignment and drift over to catch an underthrown pass. That wasn’t about protection. THIS IS NOT MATT RYAN BASHING. No he didn’t have the best game today (as my FFL standings will attest to), but the line held up long enough for him to make plays. The receivers dropped a few more today, and the scheme was never able to take advantage of what the Raiders came out to do, which was limit us over the top,and use their linebackers to get more pressure.
DePlane
October 14th, 2012
5:01 pm
Just home from the Dome. Sloppy game by the offense. MR2 picks in the first half were drive killers and he looked out of sorts. He looked much better in the 2nd half. Assante finally gets his first pick of the season…happened right in front of me…and was a heads up play on his part…he timed it perfectly. Yes, he is a gambler but it was a game changer.
Once again they put together the necessary drive to go down and get the three and the win. I would have preferred a blowout, but honestly the first half was all on MR2 and the picks. We still have a problem with short and goal. Sickening that they can’t figure that out….
Bottom line, it was an ugly win. But I’ll take that and 6-0 any day.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
5:02 pm
Dhunt
Great post on 4:56. I don’t think they should blowout teams, but still, they are better than 1touchdown. I expect them to tighten things up.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
5:05 pm
Dhunt
So, you don’t think Matt Ryan getting hit on the second INT made that throw weaker? It would have been a TD if he stepped up to throw, staring down or not. Ryan needs a pocket to pass. I know you are not bashing, just pointing out facts.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
5:06 pm
Matt Ryan was hit 8 times and sacked once. Yeah, the Oline is doing REALLY good… come on man!
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
5:07 pm
SP, I’m basing my opinion on “staring down receivers” more on replays, and how the defense reacts to the pass.
Only ONE sack? I remember less than a year ago that would have been cause for a Festivus like celebration in the cage. And since you can end up wincing after even one good hit, I certainly don’t think that is indicative of the line being awful today. They could have played better, but then then when you know its a three step drop and you expect the ball to come out fast, sometimes you don’t hold blocks as long as needed when the ball doesn’t come out.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
5:11 pm
You can make the case that the O-Line is bad, fine. But, whose really surprised by that? We knew the O-Line was suspect coming into the season. It’s up to Koetter to make sure he accounts for that weakness in his playcalling/scheme.
Ryan was incredibly sucessful in the early weeks because of the ‘quick release’ that even Jon Gruden was praising him for. Lately, it seems we’ve been getting away from that somewhat.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
5:15 pm
Wabe, I should say that I too think only managing to score one touchdown against any opponent is an extremely sup-par game for this team.
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
5:20 pm
“Ryan was incredibly sucessful in the early weeks because of the ‘quick release’ that even Jon Gruden was praising him for. Lately, it seems we’ve been getting away from that somewhat.” – Wabe
The Panthers exposed Koetter for not knowing what a cover two scheme is…not really surprising since no one would have had a reason to ever run it against the Jags. Next the Skins added in press man to disrupt the short stuff at the line and kept a LB or two in short zone to spy the RB. Still no ajust from Koetter, just taking a receiver off the field to play 6 linemen against a passive 4 man rush from the skins. Today, the Raiders incorporated alot of those 2 things again and still no adjustment except when M. Ryan was allowed to no huddle and call the plays from the line. I am the point where we should just ditch the OC job all together and let Ryan stay no huddle the whole damn game.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
5:21 pm
watch that Giants passing game…
JJ
October 14th, 2012
5:25 pm
SP, AMEN you hairy lizard!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
5:27 pm
Dhunt
Getting hit is just as bad as sacks…
LRD
October 14th, 2012
5:28 pm
As Al said.. just win baby… and today, we just won. We are 6-0.. and that is all that matters at this point. We have tough stretch coming.. Philly, in Philly where we dont exactly shine, and then regardless if the sAINTs are 6-0 or 0-6 , they will play us tough..and then we have the Sybil Cowboys coming…
Granted, I only saw the 2nd half, but Ryan looked out of sync, and I am wondering if he is a bit more beat up than we think he is.. and we hardly saw Quizz in the 2nd half…
And I dont care what the haters say… we are 6-0, Smitty ties the most wins ever by a Falcons coach, and who’d a thunk we would be 6-0 right now.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
5:32 pm
Wabe, I’m not suprised at this O-line being horrible, it has been that way for a while. If you are gonna get to the next level you better fix the core of the team. Schemes or playcalling may get you to the playoffs but without a good O-line you will not go beyond that.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
5:56 pm
16-0, 0-1 playoffs with this OL and Cooter!!!
JJ
October 14th, 2012
6:00 pm
Is samanthas back hurting or Clabos puunany hurting him???
Replace these ladies please!!!!!!!
Unca' Bob
October 14th, 2012
6:11 pm
A few weeks ago I said somthing about smoke and mirrors. It seems to have come home to roost.
DePlane
October 14th, 2012
6:20 pm
From where I sat…about the 30 yd line…the o-line looked like they were getting blown up the first half. Clabo in particular. So there was lots of pressure on Ryan.
Penalties killed Oakland. If they hadn’t had 12 penalties they would have won. Several of them on key gains on nice plays that instead set them back. We were a little lucky with those.
DePlane
October 14th, 2012
6:22 pm
Unca Bob…I had to break down and get an MR2 jersey. Wore it for the first time to the game.
Unca' Bob
October 14th, 2012
6:26 pm
DePlane,
Good for you! Mine is not quite a virgin but it’s close.lol
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
6:30 pm
49ers getting stomped. Alex Smith looks like Matt Ryan out there. Lol
D3
October 14th, 2012
6:31 pm
Great 6-0 Day Cage Family! — Got home not long ago from the game, and just a few quick hits while I work on a new post……..
+ — Matt Ryan had a TERRIBLE day. I don’t know what the F was wrong with him. Let’s hope it was just an off day. That first INT set the tone for the whole day and was ALL on him. I’m thinking that teams are keying in on the passing game because our running game is awful. Maybe he just had a bad day and the OL is not good, but tell us something we don’t know.
+ — I’ve been screaming this forever, but HD NEEDS MORE SNAPS! The single back 3 WR set should be our base formation and it seems we’ve been getting less and less HD in favor of…………Mike Johnson as a 3rd TE, Tommy Gallarda, and Lousaka Polite. Really?
+ — The TE cupboard is bare after TG. I still think that Michael Palmer can get us through for awhile after Gonzo retires, but we need to push TE to the top, even though below CB, RB, and LB. Only so many draft picks and so many TE’s. Hell, give Chase Coffman a chance, at least he can CATCH the d@mn ball.
+ — We are weak at RB and need SPEED! I still like Quizz as a change of pace back, but he just does not have the needed speed. Quickness can only get you so far. That quick toss to him had plenty of room to get 1 yard and he was caught and dropped for a loss. Still would like to see Snelling more. Turner just ain’t got it. You shouldn’t pay an RB $7.5 million a year to be effective only in the 4th after the defense is tired. I could even see drafting an RB in the first round. Marcus Lattimore or Ed Lacy anyone?
+ — Are we surprised at the OL at all? Same OL as last year, similar results. Put Konz in, bench Clabo, try Holmes at RT or LT and move Baker to RT. In other words TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT!
+ — Abraham is an ageless wonder.
+ — I guess I’m going to have to eat crow and say that the Ray Edwards signing was a bad move after all. The only think I like is that he wasn’t that expensive in the grand scheme of things. We have to start developing either Sidbury or Massaquoi, because we’ll have nothing when he retires / slows down.
+ — Time is running out on Dent. I may have to start eating crow and saying that maybe we should have kept Lofton, which is something that I really hate having to do. Dent is just as bad in coverage as Lofton, but at least Lofton was a tackling machine. Dent is not looking good. Just shows how truly thin we are at LB. Why not try Biermann at LB? He’s been standing up a lot more recently anyway.
More on new post……………
Unca' Bob
October 14th, 2012
6:33 pm
Big Lou,
That’s not funny, doddgamit!lol.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
6:33 pm
“sometimes you don’t hold blocks as long as needed when the ball does’t come out” now that is funny! What ever happened to playing until the whistle blows? Times have changed!
SG
October 14th, 2012
6:37 pm
Glad for the 6-0. Congrats to Smitty on evening up with Coach Reeves.
As the road gets harder, let’s let MR 2 handle the no huddle more as I’m still wondering about the skills of our OC – sorry, but while predictability isn’t the issue it was in past, ability to recognize and adjust to defensive schemes is more MR2’s skill. As for the D, take the bye to relearn your tackling skills.
D3
October 14th, 2012
6:50 pm
From Turner himself……………
Ask the running back.
“I’m not sure why it’s going like this,” Turner said. “It’s great to be 6-0 and everything. But we can’t just assume we’re always going to be able to get an interception or a last-minute field goal every time. At some point we’re going to have to run the ball. We’ve got to be able to knock it in [the endzone].”
Turner’s runs by quarters: two for 12 yards, three for 12, three for minus-one, three for 10.
Some of this lack of production is on him. He looks slow at times.
Some of it is on the offensive line. It generally has been far better at pass protection this season than opening holes or getting any push. (It wasn’t good at either Sunday.)
Has Turner lost confidence?
“No. I’m still here. I’ve never lost confidence.”
Have the Falcons lost confidence in Turner or their ability to run the ball at all?
“You would have to ask them that. That’s not something they would tell me. It’s their team, their scheme, their offense. I’m just here to try to help them win.”
I don’t really like that last statement from him. He sounds bitter as hell. Fact is, YOU ARE THE MAIN PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!! He is slow, doesn’t hit the hole hard, tip-toes, and doesn’t have an extra TE or a great FB blocking for him every single play. God forbid you make someone miss or hit the hole.
Starting to be done with Turner “the Burner,” especially if he starts getting a bad attitude about it.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
6:52 pm
falcon21, you set your blocks differently for pass plays where the ball is supposed to come out quickly. So you may let a guy go the long way around to stop him from getting inside quickly and if the ball doesn’t come out, you look like you didn’t block worth crap when actually the QB shouldn’t still be holding the ball.
Big Lou, hits mean as much as sacks? Funny, I never hear anyone say that when the Falcons defense only gets a few QB hits but no sacks. And in fact, my dad just reminded me that the one sack Ryan took today was on a play where he basically just fell down without being touched. Yes the pocket was breaking down, but if our line is expected to hold blocks forever, then they will never be that good, and there’s no use even talking about it or hoping for it. On that sack, if Matt has a bit better pocket presence, he can easily move outside the pocket and possibly make a play.
Paddy O
October 14th, 2012
6:52 pm
This is make me leery. Offense played very poorly. Defense only so so. Lucky for us the Raiders stink. Nice play by Assante.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
6:58 pm
D3, if I had a player making public comments and referring to the team as “them” I would have his azz traded before the next game. That is more outrageous than the Hawks Joe Johnson saying he doesn’t care what the fans think. The team is ALWAYS “US”!
I can understand Turner being frustrated, but that’s not the way you come out in public. I think Turner is not being used as best he can be. Running him straight into stacked defenses is a waste of plays. The cutback/counter play that he scored on last week wasn’t called even once today.
Paddy O
October 14th, 2012
6:59 pm
I realize our execution was spotty at times; and opposing teams have now identified our achilles heal as our O line; but our game plan was really bogus. Tony G as WR and what? JJ on the left, and no other receivers, throw goes to Tony G? What the bleep is that play calling? Whatever confidence I had in Welcome Back is ebbing. No way with our offense should we get stuffed as we did – are we trying to force Mike Turner too much? HD and Quizz both had drops AGAIN.
Paddy O
October 14th, 2012
7:02 pm
As good as Spoon has turned out, I ‘m not feeling a how lot of love for Dent. And Mike Peterson appears to have stayed on the dance floor a little too long.
DePlane
October 14th, 2012
7:05 pm
UB…lol! I guess mine is officially broken in
DePlane
October 14th, 2012
7:07 pm
Paddy O…Turner only had 11 carries, albeit for a 3.0 yd avg.
Wings
October 14th, 2012
7:16 pm
Paddy O – “No way with our offense should we get stuffed as we did – are we trying to force Mike Turner too much?”
D3 answered that question nicely. One thing he is too far behind the line with his slow speed. I don’t like the play calling when Quizz is used as the Mini-Turner straight up the middle. The design of the running plays is atrocious.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
7:35 pm
OK after reading a lot of coverage about the 6-0 Atlanta Falcons, I am officially pissed.
WTF makes people think that teams are just going to lay down and take a beating when the Falcons show up?! Why is it that nobody will give the Falcons any credit for any wins, and the mantra all year long has been, the Falcons get no respect until they win a playoff game???
As I look at the NFL today, Pittsburg lost to the lowly Titans, Seattle came from behind to beat the might Patriots, Washington rolls over the Vikings with a concussed QB, Cleveland takes out a Bengals team that is supposed to challenge for the AFC north crown, Miami beats the Rams, and the Jets actually win a game big over the Colts. THIS IS THE NFL!!!! ANY GIVEN SUNDAY!!!! And as I type, the Giants are completing a thrashing of the one NFC team that, for some unknown reason, has been higher than the Falcons in the Power Rankings.
Every single member of the Falcons team, coaching, and front office realize that they can play better. There have been more mistakes over the past three games, and making mistakes means you have to work that much harder to overcome those mistakes. The difference between being 6-0 and 3-3 is that we have been able to do what it takes to overcome. Yet the only thing anyone can think of to write or say about the Falcons is that they are somehow fatally flawed.
I’m calling BULLSHYT on all that doom saying nonsense. It’s fine to say we can play better, but it’s disrespectful to the Falcons to pretend like we are only good if we blow every team out of the water, and it’s disrespectful to all those teams we played and beat, to pretend like they never had any chance of even giving us a run for our money.
I’m all for the passionate analysis that happens in the Cage. But Falcons fans need to rally around a team that has shown AMAZING resiliency, strong hearts and minds, and a never say die mentality that has served us well, and will continue to carry us through to what could be the most successful season in Atlanta Falcons football history.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
7:35 pm
I sit RG3 and he goes off for 36 pts…fock me!!!
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
7:38 pm
Crazy day all across the league…Falcons nearly getting knocked off by a (so-called) terrible team is just one part of it. Seahawks beat Pats, Browns get a win, Jets rip the Colts the week after they beat the Packers, et cetera. Maybe it’s just one of those weeks.
…Scratch that. Falcons should never have been a part of this.
After that showing, I’m kind of glad we’ve got the Eagles after the bye week. Then again, maybe we’ll make them look better than they actually are for 58 minutes and then squeak by in the end.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
7:47 pm
DH, I was waiting ’til after the fizzle ran down to make a comment but I think you have made it for me. You are just more long winded.
We won, Oh? but you didn’t like the score or how we won? It’s called a game because each team goes into the game thinking that they will win. Every NFL team has weknesses but the bottom line is who wins the most games. WE have a bye week coming up and Prick and Co should be warned.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
7:48 pm
A disturbing fact is emerging with our beloved falcons…despite our offensive firepower, we will not go far with this shitty, piss poor, sukky offensive line!!!
JJ
October 14th, 2012
8:04 pm
Were 6-0 and the media will tear us apart…great. We are the shItiest 6-0 team Ive ever seen. Yes Im glad were undefeated but unless cooter or smith puts in our rooky OL…we will be embarrased AGAIN in first playoff game. Coop and f21 have been screaming for help, we know see why!
Samantha and Clabo sukked tonight and we need to try the rookies…JMHO.
D3
October 14th, 2012
8:07 pm
DHunt— Good post. You should check out Pat Y’s post. He tries to save it in the end talking about how the Falcons “can be” one of the best in the NFC (yes, he said NFC), but trashes the H out of them saying they’re not even close to the best team. I know all the hand-wringing (and they did look bad today), but the effin’ won. The Giants went 9-7 for chrissake and the fans were ready to fire Tom Coughlin…..again. We have a lot of areas to improve upon, but these are games we would have easily lost last few years. Now I remember why I stopped reading or listening to any of the media elite’s opinion over two years ago.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 14th, 2012
8:09 pm
DHUNT, I’m with you 100%. Hey guys, we can have that conversation about how we get better…but don’t cheapen a W. Kind of fitting we struggled against the Raiders, in which their late owner coined the phrase, JUST WIN BABY!
6-0! How you like that ESPN! Talking out your azz Mutha…
D3
October 14th, 2012
8:10 pm
From Pat Y………..
The Falcons aren’t the best team in the league right now, but that doesn’t mean they can’t get there. By skill and by luck, they’re the only undefeated team in the NFC and they’re running away with the NFC South.
He also tags the story on the main page with “Chill, Falcons fans. You’re 6-0, but you’re certainly not perfect.”
SG
October 14th, 2012
8:16 pm
@DHunt totally agree on the “Any Given Sunday” brought to bare by league parity. And more so, agree with the impressive resiliency – and determination – of several team leaders. But, I think we’d agree that consistency among more of the playmakers would solidify the team >>>> and the expectations. I.e. Samuel was truly lost in space on at least 2 critical covers before his flawless coverage on the INT. Rodgers? Is he quick or isn’t he? ( …and can he catch or not?). Robinson? Very good game last week. This week he couldn’t tackle for s!”/. And Ryan? The OL looked bad from my seat but shouldn’t the OC have made adjustments for the coverages? And against a previously anemic D, we suddenly play soft?, ( not enough no huddle IMO).
Even though at 6-0 (definitely happy for them and fans for that), the pink elephant in the room is if we don’t know what to expect from the level of coaching and / or play level to avoid heart attack finishes against mediocre teams.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
8:20 pm
Whos confidaent with this team?
We will lose our ass AGAIN if we dont improve our CRAP of an OL that we have…truth hurts but we all know it…one n out again!!!
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
8:25 pm
We have a semi weak D but it will come on and play well. Without a pretty good O-line we will go no where. I will chill when that is improved, until then we are the same team from years past. Make the playoffs and lose in the first round.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
8:26 pm
D3, I think Pat’s articfle was pretty well on point.
“If the Falcons can take their game to another level and start putting together complete games, then the chants and talk of them being the best team in the NFL could be justified.”
As MR and others have said, “we haven’t played our best game yet.”
We have not played a complete game doing our best and I feel sorry for the other team when we put it all together. We have played good enough to prove that we CAN win when we have to and I think we will improve, and patch the holes during the season . Our best game will come next year in the big one.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
8:28 pm
@D3: Pat Y’s problem is that he thinks all Falcons fans are newbies who just jumped on the bandwagon, and thus tries to take the position of the high-and-mighty, knowledgeable columnist who puts them in their place. I don’t know half as much about football as the rest of the Cage, and I could probably out-write him while drunk.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
8:29 pm
Oh no, were 6-0, were in then top tier…WRONG…WAKE UP!!!
We are the luckiest 6-0 team, DEAL WITH THE FACTS!!!!
Love my falcons but dont go to crazy my cage falcons…lots of problems!!!!!!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
8:30 pm
Could care less about what the media has to say about us…
I do agree with Pat Y somewhat. There are concerns. Most definitely.
But, the media has been hyping the 49ers up as the ‘best team in football’ or ‘the most complete team in football’, and they got blown out at home. So honestly, forget about the media.
The Falcons are really in a no-win situation with the media. If they blow teams out, folks will drop the ‘it’s the regular season, they can’t win in the playoffs’ line. And if we win close games, folks will rip us for looking like ‘pretenders’. What the Falcons do in the playoffs is all that matters. What we’re seeing now though isn’t gonna cut it at all in the playoffs.
You have to be able to stop the run. Teams go into the playoffs looking to run the football and stop the run. We can’t do either right now. The offense has to show more consistency. Again, I’ll just wait and see what they look like after the bye week.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
8:40 pm
Wabe, I agree but time will tell. We could end up 6-10, but we won’t. We have that desire that it takes and we will win by hook or crook. We can win and we have the team to do it. When NE did the 16-0 season they lost the big one. We are proving that we have the team to beat and we have the players to do the job. We don’t have to win pretty or by 45-0, we just have to keep on winning.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
8:46 pm
JB, respectfuly disagree. Love 6-0, but we our vulnerable every game out. Can this team hang with the taints? 11-5 if were lucky…if we go no huddle…fire cooter!!!
Greg Mendel
October 14th, 2012
8:49 pm
We need a running game, and we don’t have one. Michael Turner IS our running game, and whether it’s the line or Turner, he ain’t burning anymore. His first year, he knocked people over. Now, he either runs into his teammates for a loss, or falls down when touched. He’s good for one or two 12-yard gains per game. The man is flat slow. He starts his run from the backfield, but might as well have started from a Barcolounger.
Quizz isn’t the answer. Neither is Snelling. Maybe Hawley really is the answer.
LRD
October 14th, 2012
8:59 pm
D3.. on Turner.. when was his best game this year… after he was arrested and had to eat some crow in public and came out fired up.
Maybe comments like that can be used to fire him back up. Who knows, but he is def slower than last year.
And if our D cannot stop the run, we will not make it anywhere post season wise.
I still think Ryan is a bit beat up. And hence he had an off game.
Regardless..for now.. let us bask in the glow of 6-0, and maybe GB can do us a favor tonight, and let us be the only undefeated team in the league.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
9:02 pm
JJ, glad you agree, I think that’s what I said. We are barely winning and our schedule is getting stronger. We’re winnin on a wing and a prayer.
GM, I have to agree with you on MT. He was a back up when we got him and still is. Even a blind squirrel will find a nut every now and then. I will say that the best RB in the league would surely fail behind our OL.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
9:05 pm
I kinda hope Green Bay loses myself, if they don’t make the playoffs we don’t have to face them. They do have our number!
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
9:06 pm
D3, it was Pat Y, Schultz, and Bradley that finally pushed me over the edge. I expect it from pretty much everyone else, but for Pat Y to throw an NFC South team under the bus, and for the “hometown” beat writers to focus only on the negative after a hard fought win, just burns by butt.
I’m no starry eyed first year Falcon fan. I never said anything about the Falcons being the best team in the NFL. We haven’t played a complete game yet this year, and there are plenty of areas that we can improve on.
I’m just not with the “6-0, but…” crowd. We need to play better against the run, BUT we held one of the most explosive running backs in the league to less than 3 yards per carry. We let a backup running back and 2nd string WR look like all pro’s in the final minutes of the game, BUT we consistently stopped the Raiders offense most of the game, and kept them out of the endzone on a critical redzone possession that kept us in a tight game. We had problems getting the offense in gear most of the day, BUT when it really mattered came right back and moved the ball 60 yards in 49 seconds to set up the game winning score.
Do I trust this team? HELLS YEAH!! I trust them to keep fighting until the final gun sounds. I trust them to step up and make plays when it matters. I know for a fact they have the personnel and coaching to stay in ball games, and not get to the point where the game is totally out of reach. Are they lucky or good enough? If you think it’s just luck, then you probably think the Packers would be 6-0 if not for some bad LUCK (was it bad Luck or a pretty good Luck that got the Colts to a win last week?)
Get used to it. Cause this is all you’re going to get from me. I’ll acknowledge fair criticism of the team, individual players, coaches, schemes, whatever. Everyone should keep in mind that there is no perfect team, even the perfect Dolphins team, and the almost perfect Patriots team, had some games that they just barely won. But I don’t recall anyone talking about the way they won, just the FACT that they WON. If you can’t extend the same courtesy to the Falcons, I’m likely to treat you like the troll that you most likely are.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
9:09 pm
I’m glad you agree about our O-line JB. The boys need work or a couple of replacements.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
9:10 pm
21,GB is like the GB of old. 14-0 so far. I would kinda like being the BEST team in the NFL, for now at least.
Wings
October 14th, 2012
9:20 pm
No matter how the Falcons played today, they looked better than the other undefeated team has looked tonight.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
9:23 pm
Can’t really blame Pat Y. for that article…
He’s been harping on the ‘Falcons show toughness/mettle and prove they can win close’ for the past couple of weeks. He’s been saying that this team is winning and still hasn’t played its best football for a couple of weeks now. At some point, the Falcons have to put together a ‘complete’ game. The Charger game was good, and so was the Denver game for about 3 quarters. But still, I’m sure most would say this team is better than they’ve shown.
I’m not quite at 11-5 like JJ. I think they’re 13-3 or better. And I’d much rather see this team start clicking towards the end of the season than at the begining. But, this is the same talk we kept hearing last season. The expectations were that we’d play better and get better by the week. We waited and waited for this group to ‘turn the corner’ and turn on the proverbial switch. But, it never came on. Yeah, we’re 6-0, but it’s obvious most of us are waiting to turn it up a notch. That’s why I want to see us come out of the bye. I want to see if we at least show some progress in the areas we look vulnerable in. What’s a bit disturbing is we haven’t really improved week after week in areas of vulnerability. We’ll see what they do coming out of the bye.
Will we see the offense evolve? That’s the big question.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
9:27 pm
DHunt I KNOW you didn’t just call D3 a troll. You might want to use one of the “mispoken” things that our President uses.
snacktastic
October 14th, 2012
9:28 pm
@DHunt: I think people are wary of 6-0 because three of these close wins in a row suggests the mistakes that kept the games close will cause us to start losing soon. If we end up at 9-0 with three more unsettlingly weak showings capped by game-winning drives, detractors will continue to doubt us.
It isn’t until we get CONVINCING wins that the doubts go out the window and people only focus on the W-L. Example: Remember last season when we came back against Carolina and then stomped the Jags on a short week? All of the writers were saying the same thing: “Are the Falcons peaking at the right time?” That’s in spite of embarrassing losses to the Bears, Bucs, Packers, Saints, and Texans.
6-0 is 6-0 no matter how you get it, but we still don’t have everyone convinced we can make it 7-0.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
9:33 pm
Bottom lime cagers, we are not as good as our records may lead some to believe.
I have us in top 8-10, def not 2-3.
This is not a bad thing, we can win it all, jut need help on OL!!!!!
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
9:33 pm
Dhunt, you’re just seeing the glass half full bro. Nothing wrong with that. It’s just, there’s nothing to really brag about when you say you held McFadden to 3 ypc. The Raiders haven’t really run the football all that effectively today. The defense in total allowed 400+ yards, against a Raiders offense that isn’t all that good.
But, it’s not the defense that I’m worried about. It’s the offense. And you can say what you will about ‘moving the ball when it counts’, but truth is, we should not be in that position at home against the Raiders. Yeah, it’s the NFL, and you never know what you’ll get from week to week, but if you believe we’re more talented than the Panthers, Redskins, and Raiders, why are we having to pull games out at the end? We’re far more talented than any of those teams we’ve played the last 3 weeks, yet we’ve caught ourselves in tough ballgames, and needed two GW FG’s at the end to pull off 2 of them.
Again, not tryna troll or seem negative. It is what it is. These guys haven’t played well for 3 weeks now. They’ve shown vulnerabilities, and in some cases, flaws. The argument folks are making is simple. When you run into a legitimate contender, this kinda football ain’t gonna win you games. We were hearing the same ‘glass half full’ argument all last season, and then when it counted, when it mattered most, we got hosed 24-2. You can’t be satisfied with what you see. Honestly, you have to be disappointed. We should expect better.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
9:33 pm
Why are the Falcons one of the best teams in the league right now? Compare the end of the Falcons game to the end of the Cowboys-Ravens game. The Cowboys are in a very similar position, moving the ball with time running out. They get just inside field goal range on a pass to Dez Bryant, with about 15 seconds left on the clock and one timeout. Instead of running up to the line and getting off another play or clocking the ball, Dez wastes time complaining to the refs about rough play, Romo can’t get his team lined up and the ultimately have to use that last timeout. The long field goal is just wide and they lose by 2.
That kind of screw up doesn’t happen to the Falcons. Good coaching and players who understand the game allow us to do the little things that matter and help you win games.
JJ
October 14th, 2012
9:35 pm
or believe the hype at 16-0, not going to happen!!!
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
9:35 pm
Carolina and Oakland showed us what our O-line is made of. Just imagine what the Bears, 49ers or Giants could make them look like.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
9:37 pm
Snack, it’s like MS said, one game at a time. It’s easy to be a critic and point out weakness but the fact is, our weakness is good enough to win.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
9:45 pm
D3 knows I wasn’t referring to him.
Wabe, I freely admit that I am in glass half full mode right now. And I agree with you that we should have had much better offensive games the past three weeks. However, I submit that it’s not a matter of fatal flaws, but a combination of ill timed errors, instances of bad execution, and a few calls that don’t go our way. Give you a couple of examples. Ryan’s picks almost always happen when we are in a good position to put points on the board. Twice today we ran outside on 3rd and short, once to Quizz and once to Snelling. On both runs the Raiders defense came up big and made a play, but there was space outside for either running back to bounce outside and get the yards we needed. Final example, late in the game, 3rd and long, Ryan makes a decent pass to Tony G, who is face guarded and obviously interfered with by a defender who never even looked for the ball and pull Tony’s arms down before the ball got there. We got no call, and had to punt.
That just doesn’t seem to indicate that the offense is somehow fatally flawed. The more I think about it, the more it seems like the team, especially the offense, is playing really tight right now, perhaps due to the stress of trying to stay perfect (record-wise) on the season, and trying to live up to the lofty expectations everyone (including the players themselves) have set for them.
The one place that does seem pretty flawed is the run game. I’m hoping that Koetter will design better run plays, but maybe some players or coaches are too invested in trying to make what has worked in the past, somehow continue to work.
JB FALCON
October 14th, 2012
9:51 pm
DH, it would seem that Koetter would have more of a plan for MT since MJD was his only offense with his last team.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
9:53 pm
snack, what I remember about those games last year was people saying that the Panthers were not really good enough yet, and the Jags were an outright disaster so we only did what should have been done. if do happen to get to 9-0, I will not care if every game is a one point win. It would mean we beat the Eagles, Cowboys, and Saints, and I for one would be happy as a runaway slave. Of course even if we beat all three of those teams by a comfortable margin and don’t appear to have much trouble doing it, some people will say those teams are pretenders this year, and our winning doesn’t say anything good about the Falcons.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
9:54 pm
But you see Dhunt, I’m glad you referenced the plays you mentioned…
Why are we running a toss sweep on 3rd and 1 with Quizz?
Why are we throwing a streak to TG on 3rd and 1?
Why is Snelling getting looks in a critical 3rd and goal from the 1 yard line when he never sees the field anywhere else? The one place I want Turner to get the ball is inside the goal line.
Why are we not coming out in empty sets more often after the way we marched down the field with ease on our first scoring drive?
You can point to the execution on those plays, fine. But, I just think Koetter’s making things more difficult than they have to be. He’s trying to get too cute. How often do you see Ryan throwing a streak to TG? But, on 3rd and 1, we decide to do it? Not go with our bread and butter play, but something we rarely see. Why playaction (and not just this week) on 1st and goal from the 1 yard line? Why toss it on 3rd and 1?
I just think he tries to get too fancy, or too cute, when keeping things simple would probably be best. I’d blame that more than ‘failure of execution’ on some of those plays you’ve mentioned.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
9:58 pm
Yeah JB, but MJD could cut back and find holes other than the one he was originally supposed to run through. He’s going to have to come up with something else for Turner, maybe counters, traps, delays, or plays with pulling guards. Some things have seemed to work better than others this year, but what is obvious right now is that the line isn’t able to open up big enough holes on the dive plays that used to be Turner’s bread and butter. I’m seeing linebackers and safeties filling those holes, Polite and the re-purposed linemen turned fullbacks aren’t able to clear them out, and Turner isn’t able to run them over anymore.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
10:13 pm
Wabe, that’s one way of looking at it. I thought that streak to Tony G was a 3rd and long, but maybe it wasn’t. Thing is, if those plays had worked (meaning been executed well) we would be lauding Koetter as an innovative genius. If he had run the standard Turner up the middle plays and we got stuffed, there would be a mob surrounding his house with tar and feathers by the truckload. Turner got his shot at the goal line, and came up short, when a safety stopped him.
It’s easy to second guess what doesn’t work. Can’t say I disagree with you, but it is worth noting that a big part of the problem we had with Mad Mike last year was that he wasn’t innovative enough with all the weapons we had at our disposal. I personally would like to see more bubble screens with Quizz, more crossing routes with JJ, and fewer times when we have multiple receivers running patterns withing 5-10 yards of each other. But too much of that might get too predictable too.
Coop
October 14th, 2012
10:21 pm
OK… so very glad we one, but not happy that it took last minutes heroics to beat 3 bad teams, three weeks in a row.
OL is NOT good. Turner sucks.
All that said, I am REALLY upset about Smittyball when Edwards returns it to the 2 after Abe’s sack/fumble. There is NO EXCUSE for that crap. Hell, if you’re gonna play Smittyball, sneak it from the 1 inch line on 3rd and a micron.
Gald we won, but OL and some D has issues that AREN’T getting better. Complain all you want about negativity, but the harbingers or one and done are there to plainly see.
Dent SUCKS!. Edwards STINKS! Quizz is slightly faster than Turner who SUCKS!
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
10:21 pm
Turner’s comments weren’t the best, but I do feel for him. The Oline is losing in the trenches during run plays. Instead of pushing the opposing team back, they are just getting stood up on the line of scrimmage. Big Ray pointed this out and I agree. Yet, just like the Packers have done, they can adjust to protect Matt. Green Bay has kept Rodgers pretty clean against a tough Texan’s team.
All I know, is that they got a bye week to heal up and sure up some things. I feel Matt Ryan will be looking at a ton of tape.
falcon21
October 14th, 2012
10:22 pm
We have the RB’s to get the job done , but we don’t have the O-line. It is what it is for now and I agree we could use a little more speed in the back field. Fact is our O-line is not good. Later Cagers.
DHunt
October 14th, 2012
10:26 pm
Watching Houston’s defense self destruct with personal foul calls. Never seen the Falcons team respond to adversity so poorly. Yet another example of how very good teams conduct themselves on the field and keep themselves in the game.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
10:27 pm
I have grown weak from the defending the Falcons. And I am at the point I cannot defend them(except for D). Yet, I refuse to be negative about it. I will enjoy the 6-0.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
10:36 pm
I know people are going to talk crap, but I predicted the Texans to get torched by Green Bay in the last blog. They have a weak secondary.
Matty Bicep
October 14th, 2012
10:47 pm
Good game today, teams showed once again they can win without their best. Sure, they have their bad moments, tell me who does’nt?
Matty Bicep
October 14th, 2012
10:58 pm
No reason to defend them BL, if the expectation is to win going away every week, it is not going to happen. Anyone see the 9ers? Does that MEAN they are going to be one and done? How about the Texans? What does tonights game MEAN in 3 months? Again, no reason to defend, we are fans, all we can do is watch.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
11:06 pm
The Packers are putting on a clinic against one of the league’s best defenses…
Dhunt, by no means is anything I’m saying to you personal bro. But, you mentioned how poorly the Texans played last week, or how close the game was. And now you see what they look like againsta team that’s actually a legitimate contender.
That’s what I fear for Atlanta. You can eeke out wins against bad teams, but when you run into a formidable opponent, they can straight up step on you.
What’s happening to the Texans tonight is what I don’t wanna see happen to the Falcons. They’ve gotta look to make the necessary adjustments and improve.
Matty Bicep
October 14th, 2012
11:13 pm
They do have Oline problems, who again, who the hell does not? But Quizz dropping that screen pass reminded me that something “different” does not always yeild better results. Again, execution is what matters, and there is another team on the field full of professionals who are trying to stop you….One thing I know, if we get the ball with a minute to go, we have the QB who can get it done. That is what it takes to win in December.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
11:14 pm
On the other hand, just to give you some of my ‘glass half-full perspective’…
You really can’t point out a single team in the league today that’s really blowing anybody away. The Ravens squeaked out a 9-6 win against a Chiefs team we blew out. The Pats just lost to the Seahawks. The Niners, who were supposed to be the most ‘complete team’ in the league, got their doors blown off today, and the only other remaining unbeaten team in the league is getting hosed at home. Yeah, it’s better for us if Ryan and company save their best football towards the end of the season rather than before our bye week. The question is, will they actually take it up into another gear? Is there another gear? Or have we seen what this team is?
That’s what’s yet to be seen. Teams like the Giants and Packers have shown they have another gear, so even if they’re not playing well right now, we know what they’re capable of. With the Falcons, we still don’t know exactly how high the ceiling is. Judging based on the talent, you’d think it’s sky high. But, we’ve shown an inability to really maximize on the talent this team holds – particularly offensively. Can they turn it up a notch as the season progresses?
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
11:17 pm
And you can scream execution too, but if you watched this Packers/Texans game, you’ll see numerousss dropped balls by the Packers, but that didn’t stop them from dropping a 40-bomb on one of the league’s best defenses.
waynester
October 14th, 2012
11:22 pm
It was obvious from the start that we had a tired, distracted football team out there today. EVERYBODY was off–either by a little or, in some cases, a lot– looking forward to a few days off. The wives, girlfriends, families all have big plans for the bye week and to a man, we’re dinged up and needing a break–and it showed in a lack of focus and execution. The upcoming Philly game is another of these “mentally challenging” match ups since we’ll run the risk of coming off the bye flat and Philly just seems to have our number historically. It’s going to be a real coaching challenge for Smitty & Co to come up with answers for the middle part of the season with Philly, Dallas, NO, ARI & TB just ahead….
Slant Pattern
October 14th, 2012
11:25 pm
“and the only other remaining unbeaten team in the league is getting hosed at home. ” – Wabe
The Texans are getting a prison sexxin’ to match ours from that ill fated playoff nongame. I keep reading that the Falcons are just fine because other teams lose games, even the mighty Texans. I have learned after 3 crappy played games to start enjoying the wins after a few hours instead of wanting to break things…BUT…that is kinda the point. This is not a “any given Sunday” cliche situation…this is THREE garbage games by our offense. The really unsettling thing is they have each gotten worse than before which screams we are not adjusting or figuring the problems out.
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It looks like we will be the last undefeated team in the NFL in a little bit…I will certainly enjoy that. I really would be more happy if Smitty takes away the offenses vacation and they get a hell week of extra practice followed by roasting Koetter over an open flame pit
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
11:27 pm
Texans have a horrid secondary.
Falcons do not.
Falcons are number one in the league in not commiting penalties for a reason. Texans are nothing compared to ATL right now. Yeah, we made turnovers, but they play within the rules.
I always thought ATL was the better team of the undefeated. But man, those Packers look scary good again.
Big Lou
October 14th, 2012
11:31 pm
The offense had two bad games, SP. they did very well against the Panthers, where the defense did not. Yet, I am gonna enjoy the win. I know the Falcons need fix a lot of things, but it’s still good to be 6-0, going into the bye to possibly adjust.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
11:33 pm
Completely co-sign SP.
But, all in all, still feels good to be the only undefeated team left in the league. Yeah, things gotta get better. O-Line, playcalling, execution, run defense. But, again, would much rather see these guys get progressively better through the season and playing their best ball in December-February than now before the bye.
The only thing I’m waiting to see though is the ‘getting progressively better’ part. But, I’m hopeful the bye will help us out there. Hoping to get Peters back, hopefully that helps somewhat with the run defense.
All in all though, 6-0, sit on that for 2 weeks, and let the haters hate, because 31 other teams in the league will tell you, it ain’t easy to start 6-0.
Wabe
October 14th, 2012
11:35 pm
Does this team remind you at all of the old Colts teams with Manning?
You see, half the reason Manning was sooooo great is because he masked so many of their flaws. Those old Colts teams couldn’t stop the run to save their lives. But, Manning would assure that opposing offenses would be forced to pass because he’d make sure he lit up that scoreboard. We have the weapons they had, but we’re not having the same amount of success, *yet*. Hopefully, they come out of the bye looking to take it up a notch.
waynester
October 14th, 2012
11:48 pm
Hope ya’ll are right–this is Philly’s bye week, too. We’ll see which coaching staff can get their guys ready and both teams have some big problems to work on. Please, players–stay out of trouble over the break and stay out of the newspapers and sports channels– get healed up and your heads right and let’s keep a good thing going….
Matty Bicep
October 14th, 2012
11:58 pm
Winning in the last minute of games is an art, and probabley a more important trait for a team to have than blowing teams out. Really, We have that. Come playoffs? Who knows, but it will come down to execution.
Big Ray
October 15th, 2012
12:32 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/40311/falcons-not-where-they-want-to-be-yet
Yasinkas can suck a fat one. I know he’s a closet Saints fan, but damn man…talk about how bad that OL was if you’re going to mention Ryan and 3 INTs and how if he keeps playing like this there will be no more MVP talk. Dude, please. Tell the whole freakin’ story. You’d do it for the Saints.
Big Ray
October 15th, 2012
12:44 am
Talk about “any given sunday”….the Vikings have been quietly beating the brakes off of opposing teams…but Washington nearly hangs 40 on them in a “going away” win. Ouch.
The Titans take down Pittsburgh, who is getting so long in the tooth they’re tripping over that one tooth.
New England loses to Seattle…ouch again.
The Giants dominated the Niners. Double ouch…
The same Colts team that took it to Green Bay gets utterly destroyed by the….Jets??? WTF…
Meanwhile, the Bucs ran right over the Chiefs…I saw Tampa winning that one..but not by that much.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
12:54 am
Maybe the Redskins are a really good team. A really good team ATL beat. Only scrub team we have really play so far is the chiefs and raiders. Blew one out, struggled against the other.
Big Ray
October 15th, 2012
12:54 am
“The big plays we gave up it wasn’t anything particularly they did,” Falcons safety Dunta Robinson said. “It was busts on our end. In the first half we had a lot of ‘my bads’ and we can’t play that way. They played tough, man.”
Atlanta’s defense stiffened in the second half but still allowed some key gains. After Samuel’s touchdown, the Raiders completed two 17-yard passes and converted a third-and-11 during an eight-play, two-minute drive that tied the game again.
“We let them out of a few situations,” DeCoud said. “We missed a few tackles here and there, me included. (To still win) is a testament to our resiliency and our ability to play together as a team.”
There it is, right from the mouths of the players themselves. EXACTLY the point I was making about our defense in this game.
All execution…and they know they can do better.
It would be SO nice to get a fully healthy Corey Peters back a couple weeks from now, though I don’t know if that’s a realistic expectation.
Also, we DID miss Stephen Nicholas against Oakland. Nicholas is quick and would have bottled up some of those runs and contested some of the shorter passes that burned us.
Dent ain’t ready for all that. Just sayin’…
Big Ray
October 15th, 2012
12:59 am
Big Lou,
I was inclined to see the Redskins that way prior to us playing them. Maybe they’re a good team, maybe they aren’t…that remains to be seen as of yet. But what I do know is they are a very POTENT team with a very competent coaching staff.
You can never underestimate either of those two elements. To me, that makes the ‘Skins dangerous at the very least. I think before it’s over they’ll prove themselves to be a good team. But it will be a dogfight as the season wears on. But they’re dangerous on BOTH sides of the ball, particularly on the offensive side.
RG III bounces back from concussion land and RAN ALL OVER the Vikings. I mean like worse than Mike Vick did to some teams. 13 carries for 138 yards? Damn…that’s more than 10 yards per carry. Double damn…
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
1:24 am
Looks like I am going to have to avoid the media for awhile. So many article bashing the Falcons 6-0 start. What boggles my mind is how the 49ers can lose to the Vikings, the Pat can lose to cards/Seahawks, Texans get blown out at home, 49ers can get blown out at home, list goes on…
Yet, the Falcons struggled and still won. The only guy who defended the team was Rodney Harrison, who said good teams find a way to win. He felt they were the best team in the NFC. Bad teams or not, any given Sunday. I’m going to take the bye week off from blogging/media Lol.
waynester
October 15th, 2012
6:33 am
HCMS has already said that it’s going to take Peters a few weeks to get up to game speed/strength. Our run “D” needs all the help it can get…..
John Waynesworld
October 15th, 2012
7:22 am
Critique, critique, critique…6-0.
While watching the game I was making a list of things we did wrong. Unfortunately the list covered every possible element that makes up a football game. It was then that I decided that A WIN IS A WIN.
Undefeated with a week off!
Wings
October 15th, 2012
7:56 am
Wabe and DHunt,
Thanks for some good reading as I drink my coffee. You two had one of the best prolonged respectful factual discussions ever.
DHunt, I think you are on to something:
The one place that does seem pretty flawed is the run game. I’m hoping that Koetter will design better run plays, but maybe some players or coaches are too invested in trying to make what has worked in the past, somehow continue to work.
Wings
October 15th, 2012
8:03 am
It looks like the Falcons, Bears, Giants, Texans, Packers, 49ers, and Seahawks are the best teams.
DHunt
October 15th, 2012
9:26 am
And here’s the other side of the coin. Seems like all it takes for a team to be considered weak is a loss to the Falcons. I’ve been hearing that nonsense for the past 4 years of winning seasons. We beat the Redskins last week and knocked out RGIII, and all of a sudden they go from the darling upstarts in the NFC East to a team that is just bad. Then they come back this week and blow the doors off the Vikings, who have been getting major props for being a much improved team this year and were picked almost unanimously to roll over the Skins. The same RGIII that didn’t do anything against the Falcons has a record breaking day in the process.
I’ll be the first to tell you the Falcons haven’t played their best ball. But the super bowl champs from last year didn’t have a winning record until week 15. You can try to devalue our record based on schedule as much as you like, but we can only play the teams they put in front of us, and so far they all stepped up and got put down.
Name a team that you are just sure is the real deal, and I can detail a bad loss they have suffered this year. Name a team that you are sure is hopelessly doomed for the season, and I can detail a great win they pulled off. Teams that looked like world beaters yesterday have shown major flaws earlier in the season. Teams that looked like they were just not able to compete at the NFL level for several weeks, suddenly got it together and played great football.
Shonn Green couldn’t run at all for 5 games, then breaks out for 150+ and 3 touchdowns.
Cleveland has looked lost all season, but brought the wood to Cincinnati.
The two teams everyone had listed as better than the Falcons took BEATINGS at home, and looked pretty pathetic in the process of doing so.
Wonder what the power rankings will look like this week? Not that I give a damn, because even if they put us at the top, it will be with the caveat that they don’t expect us to stay there. How much you wanna bet Philly is favored by 10 when we go there in two weeks?
LRD
October 15th, 2012
9:57 am
Wake up to 6-0, the only undefeated team in the league… and who gives a BLANK about the media and talking heads (for a day or 2). Just wanna enjoy this… as I figured we would be 10-6 this year.. and we could very well end up there too… but for now…
I see sunshine… on a cloudy day…
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
10:47 am
well. I m IMPRESSED that we are 6-0; am I ecstatic? No. We start off the year trying to be excellent at pass protections. We execute well the first 3 games. Then folks start griping about not running the ball. Our offense decides that yeah, we need to run the ball some (I remember GB winning the SB with zero running game). So, what happens? WE NOW can’t pass block or run block that well, and we seem sadly aimless in trying to establish our run game. At this point, either our receivers can’t get open, or we are running so few, vanilla routes that the defense can read what we are up to. We were better in game 1 than game 6; Matt was getting the ball out much quicker with better protection. Now, who here thinks none of our 4 receivers are getting open? I fear Smitty Ball has had another negative impact upon Ryan. IE, he does not like the game plan we are running, and it shows with iffy play calls and poor execution. However, 2 of the 3 interceptions were line collapse interceptions. And, since we are not moving the ball, why are we NOW afraid of the no-huddle? We conclude we are too good to employ it?
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
10:48 am
This was a tough game to watch.
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
10:50 am
dhunt – you are right – if ANY of these odd plays had worked, we’d me more tempered in our criticism. THEY FAILED; which is why they are ripe for criticism. Koetter does not appear to have a good feel for the game as it progresses. Why is our O line so poor?
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 15th, 2012
10:52 am
Most cagers (including me) agree Falcons (Koetter) must improve the run game. IMO, problem not in the application…it’s in the product. We simply don’t have what we need in a running back. Blame the offensive line if you will, not opening garage size holes for Turner to troot through, we need RB’s that can exploit creases. Opening holes the size of the Grand Canyon shouldn’t be expected…and not realistic with our OL and others throughout the league.
I’m beginning to realize Quizz is not the answer. Watching him (observing) him thus far this season, he’s just a little (one step) faster than Turner, It was evident on the 3rd down and 1 toss sweep, he didn’t (don’t) have the speed to get to the edge. Snelling, well all I need to say about him, he hit the line of scrimagge backwards on the 3rd and goal, 6 inches to go for the TD.
We have, what we have at the RB position…but I will say this, Antone Smith is in his 2nd, 3rd year with the Team? he’s had some eye opening moments in preseason…can’t understand for the life of me why we haven’t given him a chance in the regular season. He fits the mold of RB our offense needs. We will continue to hemohrrage in the running game until we have an alternative. Just my opinions…
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
10:54 am
For the Falcon KGB folks out there – are the Falcons intentionally playing vanilla against lesser teams and saving their fire for the tougher teams on the schedule? Seems unlikely, but. . . .
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
10:56 am
If the O line fails to move the pile, what exactly is Snelling going to do? Go through the LB’s and everybody else? We still have short yardage failure.
Greg Mendel
October 15th, 2012
10:57 am
Reflecting on Sunday’s game this Monday morning, I’m thinking about what I saw, what I want to see, and how little I know about any of it after reading all the interesting Cager posts above.
I’m still disgusted with our running game and with Turner. Nothing against Turner, but my understanding is that NFL RBs — no matter who — simply get worn out after a few seasons. That short shelf-life is why teams tend to keep looking for fresh young studs to replace them. I think Turner is simply too worn down to be as effective as he once was, which becomes a weakness that affects the whole offense.
Being the optimist, though, I don’t think Sunday’s performance — ugly as it was — necessarily means the team is a fraud that is likely to implode after the bye. Smitty preaches “one game at a time,” and there really is something to that. At home against Oakland, I thought the Falcons would get their blowout. But groaning through every quarter, I never once thought they were going to lose.
I didn’t assume Ryan would automatically engineer another last-minute comeback, but I have become convinced that this team is determined to find a way to win. Lately, “finding a way to win” sometimes includes finding a way to overcome self-inflicted mistakes, but they’ve done it.
The Falcons do well when they get that early score and lead. Something I noticed Sunday was Ryan throwing long, and throwing long early. It didn’t always work, and backfired some, but it was aggressive football. And I think it’s the attack they’ve intended to employ all along, but haven’t yet developed.
Koetter knows the potential of the Falcons passing game. I think he wanted to debut it against Oakland and their statistically weak secondary, but the misfires threw everything off. Add to that a weak running game and poor OL performance that had the Falcons shucking and jiving all afternoon. It seemed to me that the Oakland game became tough because the passing game plan fell apart early, and adjustments weren’t working because players weren’t executing.
Still, I’m thrilled with 6-0. Six games won one game at a time. I’m looking forward to MV7-0.
D3
October 15th, 2012
11:04 am
SOMEBODY — HERE, HERE! Great post @ 10:52 am. 100% completely agree. Turner is a lot of the problem in my opinion. We all know the OL sucks, but he is the opposite of dynamic and him getting an attitude doesn’t help either.
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
11:07 am
Mike Turner is too easy to tackle. We’ve gone away from what we were doing in game #1.
Greg Mendel
October 15th, 2012
11:20 am
@ SOMEBODY:
I strongly agree with your point about “garage size holes,” and have the same thoughts when I read criticism of the OL’s role in the running game. Yeah, they’re supposed to make holes, but no OL can be expected to open even a garage-sized hole — and wait for a forklift to drive through it.
D3
October 15th, 2012
11:23 am
I know this is a little on the excuse-making side, but out of the 3 poor play weeks we’ve had, two of the teams were coming off of byes, which means they had 2 full weeks to prepare for us.
I don’t think the Raiders are “quite” as bad as we all think. Carson Palmer still has some juice and they have plenty of talent at skill positions.
Just saying…………
LRD
October 15th, 2012
11:51 am
Don Banks: I think this sums it up
It was far from artistic, with Atlanta quarterback Matt Ryan doubling his season interception total with three first-half picks, and a measly 45 yards rushing on 15 attempts by the Falcons running game. But Atlanta has now won for three weeks running despite not playing its “A” game — against Carolina, Washington and Oakland — and that’s the sign of a mature team that expects success every time it takes the field.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
12:01 pm
First think we have to understand, is there are not “bad” teams in the NFL. Every team is stocked full of talent and can put a beating on anyone. Green Bay leared that when they lost to Kansas City. Truth is, we have to play our best in the playoffs. I got news for everyone, yesterday WAS NOT THE PLAYOFFS. So, no matter how good or bad we played yesterday, it is no indicator of how we will play in the playoffs.
To me, making the winning drive under pressure is much more a quality that will pay dividends in the playoffs than being able to rack up 50 point on a team playing poorly.
Does our O line need fixing? Is our running D problematic? Sure, but show me a team that does not have issues. Right now, it is just about GETTING to the playoffs, and in that, we could not be in better position after 6 weeks. And that is all you can have.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
12:07 pm
A W against Carolina coming off a humiliating loss on 10 days rest on a game that they HAD to have, a season saving game, is not a cupcake win. Going into the season, who thought beating Cam would be easy?
Washington? I don’t know about you, but they look pretty freaking Good. And as D3 said, the raiders are not a “bad” team, they did beat the Steelers, were coming off a bye, and really really needed this game to say alive.
Really, beating teams with 1-3 recrds are hard because you are playing a desperate team with their season on the line.
Coop
October 15th, 2012
12:12 pm
D3 – You make a point about bye weeks, but at the end of the day this team doesn’t look right. I can give Carolina because it’s divisional. I’ll take that excuse. The skis, you could point to the road… maybe I take that excuse. But the Raiders are not a good team. They have been torched by other teams. They are a West Coast team playing a 1:00 pm start in Atlanta. Bye or not, we stunk it up yesterday.
It’s also fair to say, that it took a miracle to beat the Panthers. Cam fumbles and Ryan hits the bomb. It took a pick six and a 55 yard FG to beat the Raiders. It took Spoon knocking RGIII out to beat the Skins.
After RGIII goes out and we take the lead Cousins hits Moss for a Skins lead. After Samuel pick-sixes Palmer, he marches the team right down the field to tie the game. After Cam fumbles, Franks mishandles the punt and lets them down it on the one.
I hear that good teams find ways to win, but we are almost finding ways to lose. One week, ok… two weeks… uh, er… OK. But 3 weeks in a row to at least 2 poor teams?!?? Last second heroics to beat two teams wih a combined 2 wins in OUR HOUSE!
This is concerning. It simply is. You don’t hav to blow teams out, but we should be able to more comfortably beat teamsthat are 1-4 in our own house.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
12:22 pm
NFL teams are talented full of high paid professionals. When you play a team with a couple of Ls early in the season, when the coaches still have the teams attention, when teams are scratching and clawying and need to win to turn things around and save the season you cannot expect a push over.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
12:26 pm
Coop, Raiders were 1-3, with their season on the line, coming off a bye. I do agree we are not clicking, have have not for a few weeks. But, we don’t need to be either to be honest. We don’t need to be playing our best ball. But our ability to come back an win games is a playoff trait I want my team to have.
Coop
October 15th, 2012
12:30 pm
I’m happy to be 6-0, but I’m sick of all the excuses. We are not playing well and it is worrisome. OL stinks, Running game is an embarassment. Execution is to blame sometimes, coaching is to blame sometimes, personnel is to blame…
I have higher expectations than what I witnessed yesterday. And coming off a bye against an Andy Reid team coming off a bye does not fill me with confidence.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
12:34 pm
Under Smitty, we have blown 1 4th quarter lead, and came back from behind to win 20 times. Personally I think the most important trait a team needs to have is winning the 4th quarter.
Also, did anyone notice what NY and Green Bay did yesterday? You know, the teams that beat us the past two playoff seasons.
Coop
October 15th, 2012
12:41 pm
MB – I’ll take issue with your 12:34 post. Under Smitty, we have blown multiple 4th quarter leads. Heck, we blew a 4th quarter lead yesterday… and the week before. We blew one against the Ravens a few years back. So, right off the top of my head, there are 3 of your 20 come from behind wins.
Coming from behind is a good trait. Blowing a lead in the 4th to force yourself to have to come from behind is not a good trait. Playing crap ball against lesser teams to put yourself in that position is not a good trait.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
12:41 pm
Coop
You’re worried about the Eagles, when they should be worried about us. Our defense averages around two turnovers a game, and we are going against the turnover happy Vick. Yeah, they are coming off a bye, but so are the Falcons. They have been playing WORSE football than us. I understand that fans in ATL is used to getting their heart broken by the Falcons, but it will not be this game. I think they will come out focused, hungry, and beat the Eagles. I doubt Matt Ryan is going to have a bad game after throwing 3 INT. He rebounds of bad games just fine.
Eagles have the same issues as the Falcons AND THEN SOME:
1. Bad oline
2. Weak rush defense
3. Inconsistent offense
PLUS
1. Weak secondary
2. Turnover prone
3. Questionable QB play
4. Coach on the hotseat
I am more confident with the Falcons against the Eagles, than I am against Oakland. Why? Because, the Falcons play up to their competition, Asante will want to prove something to his former team, and Matt will have a balling game versus Vick. Book it.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
12:49 pm
Coop, blowing a lead means you lose the game. temporarily give up the lead is not what I consider blowing a lead.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
12:51 pm
Coop, that is where you and I disagree. There are no “crap” teams in the NFL, especially early in the season when everyone is fighting tooth and nail to stay alive. Actually, there is Green Bay, NY Giants, and everyone else. We saw that yesterday, and we are one of the everyone elses, and until the playoff come around, there ain’t nohting we can do about it.
Coop
October 15th, 2012
12:53 pm
BL – You’re correct with your assessment of Philly. You could have nearly posted the same info about Oakland… before they played us. Couldn’t get to the QB and had almost no INTs.
Say what oyu want about Andy Reid, he never loses coming off the bye.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
12:53 pm
Teams give up leads ever single week in the 4th quarter, you almost game plan for it. When it it happens, the clock management, field position, all the strategy kicks in. That is coaching, it is where Smitty excels.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 15th, 2012
12:55 pm
Big Lou, I agree with most of your assessments of the Eagles, especially the glaring “ISSUES” you sighted. They (Eagles) should be vulnerable (ripe for the picking)…but, I might also add, an injured animal is very dangeraous when backed in a corner…fighting for it’s life. Just my opinion…
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
12:55 pm
Eagles have playmakers out the wazoo, they are capbable of putting the hurt on anyone. But so are we. But as I said earlier, going 2-2 against the NFC east would be OK in the grand scheme of things.
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
1:06 pm
a lot of pollyanna getting shoveled. I see the Eagles game as tough. Can you really claim there are NO bad teams in the NFL? KC is bad. Buffalo is bad. hear no, speak no, see no. However, that is not an accurate depiction of reality. Our O line now has 2 HORRIBLE games under their belt – I suspect more D coordinators will really start to press our O line. Without time, MR2 can be neutralized. We need to go back to focusing on pass blocking; let MR2 audible into a run if the D dictates. If not, eventually something rotten will happen.
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
1:08 pm
Mike Turner is a plodding FB. His comments quoted by D3 are exceptionally problematic.
Ken Strickland
October 15th, 2012
1:11 pm
We’re now the team that every team, especially those with losing records, aspires to defeat, and the Raiders are definitely that type of team. Add the fact that they were coming off a bye week and had more than enough time to prepare for us, it was doubly hard on us.
One thing is certain, and that is we have got to do something about our deteriorating OL blocking. We’ve done a inadequate job of run blocking all yr long, and our pass blocking seems to be getting worse. I doubt if there’ll be any personnell changes made during the bye week, but if we continue to struggle after the bye week, I expect there will be some changes made.
We can’t get to the next level and become a serious SB challenger until we get better and more consistent run and pass blocking, period. It doesn’t look like that’s going to happen with the way our OL is currently constructed. I don’t know how much RG GReynolds, RT TClabo, OC TMcClure, or LT SBaker have contributed to our current OL blocking problems, but changes will have to be made sooner or later before improvement can be realized.
Ken Strickland
October 15th, 2012
1:32 pm
Gms like these are exactly what this team needs to develop character and a winning never give up attitude. Some of you seem to forget how we dominated the regular season during the 010 season on the way to a 13-3 season, only to fall apart and get blown out when faced with adversity. We couldn’t do anything on OFF or DEF to even come close to mounting a come back.
If the team is going to struggle, it’s a helluva lot better if it happens against losing teams at the beginning of the season than having it happen in the playoffs against playoff caliber teams. The Texans had been blowing losing teams out, but got their clock cleaned when it went up against a struggling but very talented and capable Packers.
This team has done wonders so far this yr considering our coaching staff, OFF and DEF approach, schemes, and systems have been completely revamped, and we have the same starters manning 21 of 22 starting positions from last yrs team. Unlike our very successful 2008 and 2010 seasons, we aren’t catching anyone by surprise this yr. The teams we’ve played so far have made numerous adjustments to what we’ve been doing, and all they’ve managed to do is slow us down, not stop us.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
1:40 pm
So, Kansas City is a bad team? The bad team that knocked off Green Bay last year? Or the bad Buffalo team that manhandled the teams that beat Green Bay last week.
All teams are capable AND DO playquite well, or poorly at times. The difference between the good teams and the bad teams is the bad teasm seem to play poorly more than the good teams, and especially play poorly at inopportune times. But that don’t mean they are going to play poorly when we play them. Nothing is given.
You can take any 6-10 team examine the games, and find 5 plays that would turn it into an 11-5 team. I know that, because I sat down season after season after the falcons finished 6-10, or there abouts, and did it.
Don’t take winning for granted.
D3
October 15th, 2012
1:43 pm
Look guys, I’m in the middle here. I completely understand and acknowledge that we are likely the weakest 6-0 team, in recent NFL seasons. And if the playoffs started today, we’d be in for yet another 2011 Debacle in the Dome vs. the Pack and another 2012 Meltdown in the Meadowlands. I get it and really do feel that way.
But on the other hand, we are WINNING the games. Would it be better to lose them and talk about how close we came to winning? The record says 6-0, and if you extrapolate our current issues from the last three games, we’re in for an epic collapse. But that doesn’t necessarily work like that. Regardless of records, the NFL is the most parity driven league in all of sports in the entire world. I truly believe “Any Given Sunday” because last year and year’s past we DID lose them.
I’m split right down the middle currently.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
1:46 pm
Ya gotta get rid of the emotional damage. Are the 9ers finished after yesterday? Is Texas toast? I would say, no. But I do believe that NY and GB are the two best teams in all of football. What coincidence.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
1:47 pm
If we can get to the playoffs and get an upstart team, maybe Seattle, or Arizona and get a W, then we can beat anyone. But I agree, NY and GB have our number, as they do everyones.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
1:55 pm
Somebody
You can make the same point about the Falcons. They are a wounded animal after a tough game against the Raiders. I garunteed that game didn’t feel like a win to them. You can’t expect Matt to have another three INT game. He will dominate the Eagles.
Not to mention, the Eagles were ‘wounded’ versus the Lions, but still choked at the end. The Falcons will give Andy his first loss after a buy.
JB Falcon
October 15th, 2012
1:56 pm
All caught up reading and will have to go with the 6-0 concept. The best in the entire NFL. And it may be Not For Long, but until we lose one, I’m going into each game with the same attitude as the players, I expect to win. It’s like they say, and ugly win is better than a pretty loss.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
2:11 pm
JB
Agreed. Look at the Cowboys loss versus the Ravens as an example. That was one pretty loss!
JB Falcon
October 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
And this from SI “Every time the Falcons find a way to win when they shouldn’t, every time they scratch and claw their way out of a hole to pick up a victory, they’re planting another seed of confidence.”
Coop
October 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
So blowing a lead in the 4th doesn’t count, but you count the comebacks that it necessitated to prop up Smith.
The apologies are exhausting. I should ignore my eyes and common sense and simply look at the scoreboard. I can only complain when we lose and I can’t point out flaws in our makeup . I can’t inject logic.
so we are clearly going 17-0.
Wabe
October 15th, 2012
2:25 pm
Every win is great. There are no bad wins. No one’s arguing that.
But, to argue that there are 32 good teams in this league, I’m not buying it. You can say what you want about professionals on every team and what not. But, the Falcons, with the weapons we have, shouldn’t struggle to score points against a depleted Raiders secondary. A secondary that had safeties playing corner to fill in the injury voids. The mere fact that our defense almost outscored our offense yet again yesterday is not concerning to you guys? Our defense scored as many TD’s as our offense yesterday, and had Ray Edwards got that extra yard, would’ve went on to score more TD’s than the offense.
I think the reason you see concern is because the talent isn’t being maximized. This team shouldn’t be struggling to score points, and the last two weeks, against two not so very good secondaries, we’ve been bottled up. I think SP hit it dead on. I think teams have seen what we did in the 1st quarter of that season, and have made some adjustments, and now, it’s up to Koetter to make adjustments and throw some wrinkles into that offense to keep it fresh. Until we see that, you have to be concerned.
It’s still early in the season. And I get it, let’s see what adjustments the coaches make. Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. But honestly, I think that’s where we differ. I don’t think you can give these guys the ‘benefit of the doubt’ as much as the next guy might. Mainly because, we went all last season waiting for everything to finally ‘click’. We’ve been waiting for that ‘explosive’ offense for a season and a half now, and although they’re good, they’re not ’scary’ based on performance. Yeah, when you look at the personnel, it might be a nightmare for other defensive coordinators to scheme versus that 3-prong attack, but, for some reason, we haven’t been able to fully capitalize on the potential of the offense. You can say that being 6-0 is fully capitalizing, I don’t see it that way. I’m not surprised by any means that we’re 6-0 at this point. 4 of our 6 games came against the lowly AFC West. And the other two came against teams that aren’t really viable playoff threats. I’m not trying to downplay what we’ve done. We’ve beaten whose in front of us. But, do you think we’ll be able to match up against the likes of the Giants, Packers, Bears, Niners with the way we’re playing?
It’s gotta get better. Period. 6-0 is good. But, we’re not playing for regular season wins. We wanna position ourselves in the best spot, yeah .It’d be much better to win 2 games to get to the Superbowl than 3. So, I get it. We’re doing what we need to do right now. But, if we’re playing this way with all the chips on the table, the ‘we just had a bad game’ line ain’t gonna cut it.
Wabe
October 15th, 2012
2:29 pm
And Matty Bicep, I don’t think KC fans would be booing their QB’s injury if they themselves weren’t tired of watching a ‘bad team’ with what they think is a ‘bad QB’. Would they be booing him were they any good?
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
“It’s still early in the season. And I get it, let’s see what adjustments the coaches make. Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. But honestly, I think that’s where we differ. I don’t think you can give these guys the ‘benefit of the doubt’ as much as the next guy might. Mainly because, we went all last season waiting for everything to finally ‘click’. We’ve been waiting for that ‘explosive’ offense for a season and a half now, and although they’re good, they’re not ’scary’ based on performance. Yeah, when you look at the personnel, it might be a nightmare for other defensive coordinators to scheme versus that 3-prong attack, but, for some reason, we haven’t been able to fully capitalize on the potential of the offense.” Wabe
Sorry, but that’s not a fair assessment on the Falcons this year. They have a NEW offensive/defensive coordinator at the helm. They DESERVE the benefit of the doubt. Period. How are you to judge our performance last year, to this year with difference coaching? That’s no fair. Different schemes takes time for players to adjust. I repeat, it takes time for players to adjust to new schemes. They will have weaknesses throughout the season, no doubt, but all that matters is that they make the playoffs and win there, too. I am not going to doubt the new coordinators because of couple bad games. Offense had a couple, and the defense had one against the Panthers. Yet, as you stated, we are only 6 games into the season. We have 10 left. Let’s see how the games versus the Eagles, Giants, Saints work out, before loosing our confidence.
I do agree with you that our offensive line is in trouble, though. But, I will give the NEW coaching staff the season before calling for heads(I am not saying you, but there are a couple of posters thinking they are better coaches then the ones paid to do it).
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
2:42 pm
Coop. If you come back and WIN, it is a comeback win. If you blow a Lead and LOSE, it is a blown lead. It is about the Ws and Ls. And it is simple, 20-1 is Smittys record. He has only lost 1 game where he held a 6 pt lead in the 4th quarter. Don’t shoot the messenger.
I am not proping anything, either you came back to W, or the other team did. That is life in the NFL.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
2:44 pm
If people are going to give Matt Ryan the benefit of the doubt in 2008, then they need to give the benefit of the doubt to our NEW offensive/defensive coordinators. Fair is fair. They are not running the same offense as the team we watched last year. Turner’s frustrations in not getting the ball more shows this.
Fixed a couple bad throws, dropped passes, and poorly executed tackles… the Falcons would be looking much better right now. The coaches are putting them into the position to make plays. You cannot ignore the fact that the Falcons are tied with top in the league in dropped passes.
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
2:47 pm
“I think SP hit it dead on. I think teams have seen what we did in the 1st quarter of that season, and have made some adjustments, and now, it’s up to Koetter to make adjustments and throw some wrinkles into that offense to keep it fresh. Until we see that, you have to be concerned.” – Wabe
I appreciate the vote of confidence, thank you. The past two games I have reserved Mon. for actually enjoying the win since I got so upset on gameday. This time I was ready for it so I’ll try to do a lil work today to back up my assertations. Before i get into that I just wanted tp post this link ( http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000080761/article/falcons-ravens-texans-or-bears-biggest-fraud-in-early-goings?module=HP11_content_stream ) for all the people upset over fktards like PatY. and his asinine posts from our game day…we aren’t the biggest frauds in all the medias eyes at least
.
I have bitched about Koetters route design and playcalling. This is not our only problem on offense but it is a big one that needs to be addressed. The Cage doesn’t have the capability for me to use still shot pictures so all I can do is post up a links. Maybe someone from the troll board or “alcaholic” site can make a thread using them to prove me right, wrong. or just an A-hole.
Lets start with Ryan’s first interception. This link is to NFL.coms highlight vids ( http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012101400/2012/REG6/raiders@falcons#menu=highlights&tab=recap ), the 2nd one down shows the 1st interception. You can use the pause function on the player to get a good breakdown of the playcall and design. This is a 4wr set with the “triple stack” on the left. 5 OL, RB, and a single WR (looks like JJ) on the right. First thing that sticks out is that this is a bunch formation so it should open up an easy outpattern somewhere. This play is within the first 15 plays so it should be scripted and therefore almost has to be a Koetter design and playcall. I’ll break down the rest in a new post.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
2:55 pm
Sure, Cassel go booed, but he also got cheered about 10 games ago when he knicked off the packers….I am not saying every team is capable of winning hte superbowl, but the difference between the best and worst team in the NFL is no that much. Finding a way, winning late is a good trait for a team to have….And no, I do not expect the falcons to go 17-0. They will lose a game, and it won’t be pretty, but I won’t think that the sky is falling when they do. I expect them to go 2-2 against the NFC East, 4-2 in the division, and since they are 4-0 against the AFC W, I think they will finish 5-1 for 11-5. My prediction at the beginning of the season.
Wabe
October 15th, 2012
2:59 pm
If you want to say it’s not fair, that’s fine.
I think it’s completely valid, because I lean more towards the ‘prove it’ crowd than the ‘give them the benefit of the doubt’ crowd.
I’m sorry, but two playoff blowouts in back to back seasons does that to you. I’m happy we replaced the coordinators. But, considering how I wasn’t particularly happy with the OC hire in the first place, how I had concerns about him going into the season, he’s not getting much benefit of the doubt out of me. It ain’t fair to him, I’ll concede that. But, at this point, this organization, knowingly, is in get it done or GTFOH mode. We were already talking about how this year was huge for Smitty and TD’s job security. Not sure what Blank’s thinking, but if they really go one and done again, do you not think folks will be callin’ for heads? We’ve been celebrating regular season wins for a while now. We’re 23-9 in the last two seasons with nothing really to show for it. I don’t want to see these guys become the Atlanta Braves 2.0. Win something. Then you can get the benefit of the doubt.
Again, Big Lou, what I’m arguing can’t be determined really until we get to the playoffs. The discussions are good. But, I don’t think either one of us can make any cases to prove the validity of this team. The difference though, I can point to this teams track record, whereas you’ll just be pointing to ‘benefit of the doubt’. The track record is more substantial than having mere confidence that they’ll get it done. Now, I want to make it very clear, just because they haven’t had postseason success doesn’t mean it’s not possible. I’m hopeful they turn the corner, start playing their best football towards the end of the season, and roll come playoff time. But, you can’t knock on fans who are apprehensive about this team and what some are seeing. That’s just it, because they haven’t really earned any of that ‘benefit of doubt’ that you’re callin’ for. Because their track record in the postseason calls for the exact opposite.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
3:05 pm
But, at this point, this organization, knowingly, is in get it done or GTFOH mode
That’s the problem Wabe, it has been our modus operandi for 40 years, and how the hell has that worked out for us?
Assuming the next guy is better than the last guy has proven to be very bad logic. HEY! I know what we need, we need a new young guy with a fresh new scheme, I know this guy, Dan Henning who uses and H back…..
Wabe
October 15th, 2012
3:06 pm
I’ll leave it at this.
I’m hopeful that we’ll get better as the season progresses. I’ve said numerous times that I’m curious to see what we look like coming out of the bye week. I fully expect some of our weaknesses through the 1st 6 games to be looked at hard (the run defense, the O-Line).
I want to make this point very clear too. I’m not rooting against these guys. I will eat any crow I have to eat if i said something that is disproven. I want to see these guys get it done this season, which is why I voice concerns when I see certain things.
6-0 feels good. These convos should help us get to the Philly game.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
3:13 pm
in 40 years we never kept a coach around long enough win 50 freaking games. We have a guy who took over our team at maybe it lowest point ever, and has ran up a winning percentage over 4 years among the best in NFL history, putting him in with names like Vince Lombardi and George Halas. But he has two bad losses, on to NY, one to GB (and did anyone notice what they did yesterday?)…So, get it done or GTFOH. That is smart.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
3:23 pm
Wabe, getting to the playoffs is not enough, but it give me a reason to watch, and I would rather go every year and get my heart ripped out than having them out of it by the end of October, and not even have the interest to watch, or feel any passion win or lose. I just want the game we are playing in to mean someting, win or lose. That is what being a fan is all about.
Wabe
October 15th, 2012
3:26 pm
MB, we can agree to disagree.
But, you miss the greater point. How does this coach that you’re mentioning with the likes of Lombardi and Halas, not have his team prepared to play when the stage gets that much bigger? The past 2 season’s, the Falcons have played their worst games of the season when the game counts the most. That’s unacceptable. I don’t think the Packers were 48-21 better than us, especially not when we had beaten them and held them under 20 points like 6-7 weeks before. How many games were we held scoreless last season? And then we get to the playoffs, where everything’s on the line, and we decide that we’re due?
You see, it’s not just losing. It’s not just ‘having bad games’. It’s back to back seasons now where we’ve saved that ‘bad game’ for the playoffs. And also, all I’m hearing is how ‘good teams find ways to win when they have bad games’. Well, if that really matters as much as folks are making it out to be after these past couple of weeks, how come none of that showed up the past two postseasons? We had plenty of those ‘tough mettle grind it out wins’ last season too, and the year before that. The Niners game two seasons ago, the Panthers come from behind win last season, all of that means nothing in the playoffs.
The mere fact that Smitty hasn’t had his team playing the best ball when it matters most makes makes isn’t concerning? I love Smitty and what he’s done for this franchise. But, you’re telling me, if we lay another playoff egg this season to make it 3 in a row, that folks won’t be justified callin’ for his head? If we get beatdown again, what will we point to this time? We have new coordinators, is it the talent? What else could you point at?
Wabe
October 15th, 2012
3:31 pm
That’s the difference between us MB. I enjoy having something to play for, but there are other guys out there who could position this team, as talented as it is, in those same type of games. I’m not gonna make Smitty out to be Vince Lombardi when dude doesn’t win playoff games.
I’m hopeful he’ll get it done this season, and this conversation will be a moot point. But honestly, I don’t think you tuned in to Arthur Blank’s offseason press conference after our loss to the Giants when he basically blasted everybody and said that he doesn’t care about regular season wins, he wants rings. That’s the owner of the team saying that. So you don’t think he expects more? He’s not just wanting to see a team that has something to play for every week, he wants rings. That’s the bottom line. We’re beyond the point of having something to play for. It’s about winning rings.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
3:34 pm
Wabe, sure, but did you see what GB and NY did yesterday to who SI called the top 2 teams in the NFL going into Sunday? Those teams can make really good teams look really bad. Sometimes you just gotta, as old Freddie says, tip you hat.
Really, devistating losses like that can send teams on a downward spiral, but the fact that we just keep coming back and saying “thank you sir may I have another” speaks volumes to the character of our leaders.
Be patient, we will get there, but it will be a bumpy ride.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
3:40 pm
I assure you one thing, they will have jobs in 5 minutes. Art knows that, but what do you expect him to say? Again, when I say have a reason to watch, I mean the games mean something. We are no different, but I probably appreciate what we have a little more….And I am not comparing Smitty to Vince L, but his name showed up on a list after 4 years in the league. I did ont make it up, it is a fact, no more, no less. Again, let Smitty coach 15 more years and keep getting to the playoff, he will win a few.
Greg Mendel
October 15th, 2012
3:44 pm
Personally, I see everybody’s points here, and can’t really disagree with any of them. Problem is, it’s a discussion/debate that boils down to predicting the future, the rest of the season. Those unwilling to give the benefit of the doubt rightly point to weaknesses and failures we’ve seen on the field over the past six games. Those willing to give the benefit of the doubt rightly point to the final scores after the same six games. (I know it’s not quite that simple.)
Both viewpoints are valid, and are influenced by our individual expectations for this season and by the instinctive anxiety that comes from almost five decades of Falcons history.
I’m a homer, so I’m content with watching one game at a time. 6-0! But I’m enjoying the discussion!
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
3:48 pm
Part 2;
The Raiders defense appears to a nickle formation with 2 missing defenders in the shot suggesting a 2 deep safety shell, 4 man rush, and 2 LBs. The numbers suggest a good matchup on the left side with JJ single covered, especially if he goes to an shallow our intermediate out route. The play starts at .07 secs and my pause function breaks at single sec. intervals so I’ll go from the premise of describing a sec. by sec. breakdown.
07-08;
Roddy and TG in straight vertical routes, HD pointing towards sideline on right. JJ still straight verticle on left. Turner has come down towards right side to either help Clabo or go out.
08-09
Ryan has set his feet, looking downfield. Turner has releaseds straight ahead. Pocket looks good so far. On the right HD starts his cut back inside, TG and Roddy still straight verticle, same with JJ on left at bottom of screen. At this point no one is open, LBs are now obviously playing zone. The triple stack with no divergence has allowed one DB to cover all 3 routes at once with a DB deep and LB cutting off the inside.
09-10;
The pocket has collapsed from both sides with a running lane open in the middle. Ryan is in his throwing motion. TG and Roddy both still covered at this point, JJ is off screen. Turner is in an outlet position straight ahead facing Ryan. This is the point where the play has broken down forcing Ryan into basically 4 choices. He can throw to TG,Roddy, or JJ who are all covered tight. He can hit HD who looks open going across the middle with DB trailing. The last 2 choices are checking down to Turner or pulling down and running.
10-11
Ryan makes his choice to HD and the DB cuts the route and intercepts. TG broke to an outpattern which would have been open easy and a nice gain but it developed too late. Turner is still standing in the middle front of line as an outlet checkdown but he has an LB within 5 yards ready to pounce. JJ and Roddy are both off the screen but their final movement in screen suggests they stayed in vertical routes deep. Gonna have to do another part, this is getting long.
D3
October 15th, 2012
3:56 pm
“It’s still early in the season. And I get it, let’s see what adjustments the coaches make. Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. But honestly, I think that’s where we differ. I don’t think you can give these guys the ‘benefit of the doubt’ as much as the next guy might. Mainly because, we went all last season waiting for everything to finally ‘click’. We’ve been waiting for that ‘explosive’ offense for a season and a half now, and although they’re good, they’re not ’scary’ based on performance. Yeah, when you look at the personnel, it might be a nightmare for other defensive coordinators to scheme versus that 3-prong attack, but, for some reason, we haven’t been able to fully capitalize on the potential of the offense.” — Wabe
Like I said, I’m literally split right down the middle, but “Prove It” was exactly what I said and thought in the off-season. Excellent point.
Honestly, both sides are correct. It’s great to be 6-0, but if we play like we did vs. good teams the way we did last 3 weeks, we’ll get embarrassed, including the playoffs.
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
4:06 pm
Part 3, Final Analysis;
The play ended up with a bad outcome which leads to the question everyone wants answered…Whose fault? I heard many say this interception was a result of Ryan “staring down” his receivers. This is clearly shown to not be true. At full speed it could certainly look that way due to bad play design. Koetter kept all 3 routes on the same plane therefore Ryan can only stare in one place because the receivers are all bunched up there. The O-line breaks down at 3 secs causing Ryan to have to throw early to HD. If the O-line can hold an extra half sec to second this would have been a nice play to Tony G. The fact the 5man O-line was blown up in 3 secs by a straight 4 man pass rush means they have to shoulder a large part of the blame. In reality this was a combination of bad play design, bad O-line play, bad route running, and a bad decision by M. Ryan….just all around bad.
Koetter needs to realize his plays must designed with poor O-line play in mind…time to ditch the slow developing plays until it becomes clear the O-line can handle them. If Roddy or JJ instead of TG had been used on the out-route their greater speed would have allowed this play to prolly have worked well. Turner needs to go farther outside to pull the LB out of the middle…that zone LB made HD cut his cross upfield early allowing the defender to cut the pass route. The play design on this particular play is not downright horrible but it definitely needs to be tweaked to account for poor O-line play and better use of routes to pull defenders out of lanes. My conclusion…blast away.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
4:26 pm
SP
A very detailed and thorough assessment. Still, even if the receivers are on the same plane, Matt can pump fake to throw off defenders(which he has in the past). I do agree that from this point forward, they need to design quick slant routes to keep the defense honest and help the Oline out.
It’s just weird that the Oline can hold well in the no huddle, but have issues with normal play calls. The TD drive Matt had was all pass plays. We will have to see if DK will adjust. Matt did have good protection against Wash, so maybe that’s why he called longer developing plays.
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
4:40 pm
“SP
A very detailed and thorough assessment. Still, even if the receivers are on the same plane, Matt can pump fake to throw off defenders(which he has in the past). I do agree that from this point forward, they need to design quick slant routes to keep the defense honest and help the Oline out.” – BL
Thank you BL. The pump fake would have done nothing as the deep safeties are not involved in the play and the rest are in man. As a matter of fact M. Ryan does a pump (doesn’t look like a fake, more like a I have no good place to throw pump) but it is irrelevant as the DB that intercepts is in man and trailing to catch up after HD reverses direction. Turner not pulling the other zone LB out of HD’s cross pattern is why the interception happened if one dismisses the fact Ryan has to do something with the ball before he gets killed. HD is forced to stop and change his cross because the other zone LB is standing in the middle of his route covering Turner. If Ryan leads HD the other guy would have had an easy interception. Turner may have screwed up his route but I have seen him and Quiz in that spot on many plays so I’m quite sure that is design.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
5:02 pm
SP
Could be. HD could have also made a mistake on the route as well. All speculation really unless we were in that huddle. Matt said in his interview that the first one was his fault(interception) and then stumbled to say all was his fault. I think he really wanted to blame the Oline on the last two. Glad he didn’t. Shows his character over Cutler.
Birdman
October 15th, 2012
5:38 pm
Hello Cage.
I hope everyone has had a Blessed day. I know I have by just waking up and having food on the table.
Oh the woe;s of our Birds. To me they are starting to look like the Falcons of the last part of last year.
In there first 3 games this year the Birds had a new look but the drive and grit just don;t seem to be there and less every week . That is a concern. I hope that after this bye they will re vamp and energize . And although they will probably be in the playoffs they will not go far if they don;t.
Coop
October 15th, 2012
5:47 pm
MB – So I completely disagree with your premise that you only count blown leads if it results in a loss. you can’t say Smitty gets credit for 20 come from behind wins and not consider that we lost multiple leads in the 4th that put us in that position.
Further, you say he’s only blown 1 4th quarter lead…
So, I went back to 2008 (I’ll do the other years soon) and these 5 games had blown leads by our birds in the 4th:
Bears: Falcons lead 19-13 in the 4th, went down 20-19, then had Ryan’s first miracle to win 22-20
Broncos: Falcons lead 20-17, but lose 24-20
Saints: Falcons lead 25-22 but lose 29-25 (So that’s 2 blown leads using your definition and in 2008 alone).
Bucs: Falcons lead 10-7, Bucs tie it 10-10, and Falcons win in OT 13-10
Rams: Falcons lead 24-17, go down 27-24, then win 31-27.
So, to me that’s 5 blown 4th quarter leads. Using your definiton that they’re only blown if you lose the game it’s still 2. But you give credit for 3 comeback victories. It’s like saying Kimbrel got the win and ignoring that Venters blew the “hold” and gave the other team the lead. It ignores the issue that there is an issue.
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
6:08 pm
D3: Obviously, winning is far better than the alternative. However, the last 2 years we’ve attempted to become more explosive – so MR2 is not required to pull our fat from the fryer as he did in 2010. So, I’m wondering if we have as a team and organization really moved / progressed that far from 2010. When it comes down to crunch time – are we playing that much better, or is the opposition getting tight, knowing that MR2 had a high reputation for staging the come back? My major complaint from the Oakland game was our offensive game plan was horrible; just as bad as the offensive game plan from the Giants playoff loss. THAT is what worries me – our inability to focus on our oppositions weakness. Our passing is the key to our thrashing our opponents – why play down to them? At this point, that is the hallmark of a Smitty coached team – rise up to battle the really good teams; dilly dally all game long against the less skilled guys. So, far – 2012 is a LOT like 2010. This would be the Seattle game (yeah, i know – wrong season). However, I’ve got to give Assante major props – that was a pro bowl interception play!
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
6:16 pm
regarding bad teams – some folks have the blinders – bad teams defeat good teams in trap games; ie, when the good team is looking past the bad team – does not mean the bad team is suddenly consistently good; for 2012, the Jags (lol), KC, cleveland and Oakland are bad. also, natural or historic rivalries – such as us with NO – bad teams can play out of character. You saw if a few years ago with FL v. GA – GA had a much better team, but lost to FL. Many thought KC was turning the corner; that appears to be smoke and mirrors – at least to this point. Our offense has an identity problem; and Welcome Back needs to get his head out of his 3 point stance. 3 bad games in a row. That is a trend.
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
6:20 pm
Now, this year we have defeated 2 teams I think are top 25% teams – Denver and SD. But, we were playing a different offensive scheme than the one we have now. I don’t think the opposition can cover out guys – but, they need to run dynamic schemes – somebody who went to the game indicated that our WR too often end up in the same area of the field. Also, Tony G dominates LB, he is not going to dominate a quicker CB as easy, even though he should have the height – but why put him out there as opposed to JJ or RW84? Again, we getting stupid cute? There is such a thing as stupid cheap, and I’m seeing Welcome Back developing a rep for being stupid cute.
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
6:22 pm
as Tom Landry called gadget plays (exotics), if we ran an effective (successful) exotic once in a while, it would probably help our regular plays. BUT, Falcon exotics seem to have a negative impact on our offense, not the oppositions defense.
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
6:29 pm
wabe at 2:59: amen. It is not as though we are all rookie fans here. we’ve seen this malarkey prior. We know the playbook did not substantially change – so the player transition should not be stark. Welcome Back is NOT taking advantage of his weapons in game 6 as he did in game 1 – how? Because JJ dropped a few long passes we jettision them? As stated, the offensive game plan against Oakland stunk to high heaven.
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
6:32 pm
Big Lou: If I told YOU that there were NO bad teams in the entire NFL, what would your response be to that odd (pure pollyanna IMHO) statement? (this may be a good example of what you requested I cite as an example from last week).
Paddy O
October 15th, 2012
6:37 pm
matty – a couple weeks ago you were touting the great job MM was doing in Jacksonville. that assertion still holding water for you? If we go one an out AGAIN this year, Mike Smith will be terminated.
Unca' Bob
October 15th, 2012
6:44 pm
Last weeks game is over and done with. Move on. Why don’t you mental giants come up with an Eagles game plan? That’s our next game and you have almost two weeks to do it. Hurry up!
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
7:05 pm
“Last weeks game is over and done with. Move on. Why don’t you mental giants come up with an Eagles game plan? That’s our next game and you have almost two weeks to do it. Hurry up!” – UB
1. Have AB call the kennel club and set up a half-time dog show. AB can push the winner around in a wheel chair and present them with a minature Vick Eagles jersey. Bonus points if AB points to th scoreboard right after.
2. Let Vick play the entire game…no hard hits to let him sissy out bleeding again. Receive the full benefit of 2 fumbles and 3 INT.
3. Release Koetter and let him learn elsewhere, him and BVG would make great pals at Auburn.
4. Install M. Ryan as the new OC and let him run no huddle from here on out.
5. Profit from blowout win…smile at being 7-0.
There done.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
7:12 pm
Paddy, Sure, Malarky is not doing well, not a head coach, and Gabert is not an NFL …..But I don’t see a whole hell of a difference between him and Koetter to be honest…We did run a screen at a critical time, and QUizz dropped the ball, great.
And for all the crying about no scoring 7 from the 1, at least we did throw a like we did when we tried to against
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
7:14 pm
And why try and figure what Art will do if we go one and done in the playoff when it is game 6…..It is a loser mentality.
Unca' Bob
October 15th, 2012
7:15 pm
Slant Pattern,
#4 is the bell ringer!
JB FALCON
October 15th, 2012
7:23 pm
And for all the crying about no scoring 7 from the 1, at least we did throw a like we did when we tried to against
Say what?
Unca' Bob
October 15th, 2012
7:23 pm
MB,
at least we did throw a like we did when we tried to against
I..er..um..Huh?
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
7:38 pm
I am with D3, I see the problems, but dammit, for 40 years I have been mentally justify how just a few plays stood between our 2-6, and 6-1 records. Now that we are 6-0, I am not about to start justifying that was should be losing.
Really, in the Carolina game, we missed on a huge play where JJ was OB by and inch, and again when we knocked the ball our of Cam’s hand before the go ahead TD, but was recovered by Hartzog. So THEY were lucky to even be in the lead.
Bottom line, we have executed flawlessely in crunch time, and ask Dallas how that works. But no, we just suck, GONNA LOSE GONNA LOSE OMG!!!
Greg Mendel
October 15th, 2012
7:40 pm
LOL! God help the Falcons on this blog if they ever lose a game. They’re even catching sh!t for being 3 points behind in the first quarter. Fire everybody — including the owner and the hot dog vendor!
I admit being a homer, but Jeez! 6-0’s just not good enough. They should be 7-0 already!
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
7:40 pm
“But I don’t see a whole hell of a difference between him and Koetter to be honest…” – MB
Could be why one of the mental giants arond here coined the Kotter meme
. In all fairness, he looks more like Cooter than Kotter but that would require a long discussion on subtle differences that I’m in no mood for.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
7:41 pm
sorry, got cut off…
For all the crying about not scoring 7 from the 1, at least we did not throw red zone picks like we did against San Diego and Washington.
Also, it is kinda funny. I remember going into the Denver game saying it was just another game and getting lambasted. But now, really, was’nt it? We won, other than the W, it has not other significance.
Unca' Bob
October 15th, 2012
7:42 pm
Well, I guess I know how to screw up a blog. I’m done posting for tonight so everyone feel free to come out from whatever rock you have implanted yourselves under.LOL.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
Slant, I see the differnce. In the San Diego game at 1st and goal, Malarky runs turner, Koetter calls a pass…pic 6…Just great.
Washington? Another red zone pick ends a series that starts with a pass from first and goal from the 1….
When I say I don’t see a difference, I mean in results. We have the same issues.
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
7:48 pm
“Slant Pattern,
#4 is the bell ringer!” – UB
I am quite sure people would respect the anti-OC establishment around here more if we could offer up an alternative. M. Ryan does such a good job reading defenses at the line that I’m at a total loss for an OC that would be available and a distinct improvement. I am kidding to a degree but in some ways I am not. If we did make Ryan OC we could pay him a boatload for that job description and restructure his future QB contract to give us a salary cap advantage…hrmmm…that might actually qualify as mental giant material. Can I join the club?
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
7:49 pm
Yea Greg, jees….I am with D3, I do wait to see them explode, but just because they don’t does not “mean” we are gonna lose and we need to prepare to fire everyone.
I am not even nn
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
7:50 pm
Having keyboard problems…GUess thats a sign to be done here for the night, LOL…
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
7:52 pm
I do have to ask on question before I leave….How do you know what plays ryan checks into, and what is called by koetter?
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
7:53 pm
“When I say I don’t see a difference, I mean in results. We have the same issues.” – MB
I think we may be scoring even less points and have less “big plays” so far this year thanks to the last 3 crappy games. MM couldn’t maximize our talent but he didn’t entirely squander it in some ways either. Ther are so many levels to the OC game that this could go on forever lol.
DHunt
October 15th, 2012
7:56 pm
SP, that was indeed a great breakdown. Only thing I would add is that maybe MR2 should release the ball just a bit earlier to Tony G, rather than waiting for him to make the break and then making the throw. That’s something that I have noticed in the past two games, and I am starting to make a special effort to look and see if the ball is getting out before the receivers make the move, or if Matt is waiting for the route to fully develop before releasing the ball. AGAIN I MUST SAY THIS IS NOT BASHING MATT RYAN! It may even be part of the scheme that receivers sometimes determine which way they are going to break depending on the coverage, which would force Matt to wait to make the throw. That would actually be evidence that the coaching staff is confident that Ryan has the arm strength to get passes into tighter spots. I do notice that he gets the ball out before the receiver makes the break when we are making those late game drives that almost always involve out routes.
Paddy I know your query wasn’t directed at me, but allow me to respond. There are a couple of bad teams in the NFL every year. But every team is capable of playing a good game, or at least playing most of a game pretty good. That means a lot of games will come down to who makes the most, or least, mistakes. Jags, Chiefs, Bills, all look shaky this year. Raiders play well at times but can’t seem to get out of their own way.
Looking back at yesterday, the Raiders had a very good game plan on offense to take advantage of our aggressive defenders, and they made several big plays as a result of that. In fact I would say that most of the yardage they racked up was not due to consistently playing well, but rather several big plays in the running and passing game. Out of 149 rushing yards they better than half of it came off three big plays, McFadden had a 14 yard gain early. Heyward Bey got 20 on an end around that was well defensed but he just made a better play with his speed, and the 43 yard run late in the game just before Asante’s pick 6. Guys that is not indicative of a run defense that is just awful. The pass defense gave up a few too many big plays, giving up 9 over 15 yards, out of those 9 6 were over 25 yards. At least two of those were well designed screens, and a couple more were YACs after missed tackles.
Just a couple of mental lapses, bad tackles, or (god forbid) a good play by the other team. Dent played 100% of the defensive snaps yesterday, and Mike Pete played most of the game as well. And on that last Oakland desperation drive, the entire defense was dog tired after having just run the length of the field to protect Asante, and celebrate his interception.
I’m not ready to say that this defense is causing me any concern in any area right now. Yes I would like for them to wrap up a bit better, but some of those big hits the Raiders took and shook off would have dropped most guys in their tracks.
Greg Mendel
October 15th, 2012
7:57 pm
Dear Cage:
I’m new here, and I sincerely apologize if I’ve offended anyone. I have sincerely enjoyed reading your posts. I am, as I said, a homer. As a homer since ‘66, the mere “winning a game” — as in multiple games and at least getting in to post-season games — is a big deal.
Sincerely,
Gregor Mendel
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
8:06 pm
I am not exaclty sure we have all that much talent compared to other NFL teams.
Roddy. Among the league leaders every year in catches, I am not convinced if went elsewhere that he would be much better. I think he is utilized just fine.
JJ . He is young, it takes recievers 3-4 years to reach their potential…seems a little injury prone that keep him from developing consistancy needed. Not a coaching issue.
Quizz..Talent? Meh
Tony G. Again, I think he gets his too. Had a career day a few weeks ago, and he would have retired long ago if he thought he was not being utilized.
HD? Again, meh. He has not really made plays that make me want to see him targeted more.
Turner? LOL, nevermind.
So, just tell me about all that talent we are not using…It is not like we have the Raiders Running backs…
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
8:08 pm
“SP, that was indeed a great breakdown.” – DHunt
Thank you Mr. D. You seem to take such things seriously so I will take that as a fine compliment. I agree that there are many factors that I didn’t touch upon that could explain or further cloud that plays breakdown. The Pats use a Brady/ WR “mind meld” type offense (why TO prolly didnt work so hot there) that is complicated for me to even begin to understand. We could be using something similar but I don’t think so. Both JJ and Roddy never turn around around the entire time in the screen so I would say they definitely had a route to run.
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
8:13 pm
“Dear Cage:
I’m new here, and I sincerely apologize if I’ve offended anyone.” – Greg
I’m quite offended you would bother apologizing to the likes of villians and scoundrels such as me!! The hot dog vendor is pocketing cash and should be fired by the way. He didn’t send us our cut
.
I’m just kidding but don’t let BR or UB see that post! Things could get ugly fast.
Birdman
October 15th, 2012
8:16 pm
MB
You left out the Ice Man.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
8:17 pm
Greg, you are the normal one. Some of these guys are pretend George Steinbrenner wanna bees making in depth “analysis” by watching a game on TV screen who think they see things trained NFL professionals “miss” when they break down every single second of every single play. Don’t take them to serious, because they are all homers too.
Wabe
October 15th, 2012
8:20 pm
Again MB, lets agree to disagree. Most folks will tell you that the Falcons are loaded with offensive weapons.
RW is a top 5 WR in the NFL. Dude was posting 1,000 yard seasons with Joey Harrington throwin’ him the ball. He’s consistently posting 1,000 yard seasons, one of only a very limited group ( I forget exactly how many ) to do that.
JJ is a stud in every way. Yeah, he’s got some growing to do, but the talent is clearly there. There aren’t too many teams that can say they have 2 legitimate #1’s. Well, I believe the Falcons have 2 legitimate #1 WR’s.
TG – do I really even have to say anything?
HD – You seem to be down on HD, but this dude does whatever he’s asked to do. He just doesn’t get the looks. When guys like Devery Henderson and Robert Meachem can go out there for NOLA and make an impact, I wonder why a guy like HD doesn’t play more of a role in this offense. Plug HD into that NOLA offense and I gaurantee he’d impact games.
Quizz – I agree that Quizz isn’t exactly the ’scatback’ that most envisioned him to be, at least not me. But, there are ways to get him looks and allow him to play a role. Not anywhere near the type of back Sproles is, but, he can most certainly do things within the offense that we should take advantage of.
The weapons are here. There isn’t another team in the league with *better* weapons in the passing game than Atlanta. Maybe a couple that have *more* weapons, but not *better* weapons.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
8:23 pm
Birdman, I did leave out Ice…Talent? His are the intangables, and he has only been on the league 4 years, and through 6 games in year 5 he is in the MVP discussion…Seems like his developement has been pretty good. I don’t think our coaching has “failed” Ryan.
Coop
October 15th, 2012
8:23 pm
Sigh…
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
8:26 pm
Sigh…That is directed at me, isn’t it? LOL
JB FALCON
October 15th, 2012
8:27 pm
GM, for what one opinion is worth, you have been a breath of fresh air in the cage. This is one place that all opinions and ideas are expressed, discussed, and sometimes argued over, but there is never any hard feelings or personal insults. You have nothing to apologize for.
Coop
October 15th, 2012
8:27 pm
MB – I know you aren’t challenging SP. Please don’t embarass yourself. It’s bad enought that all you want to do is pick fights… Continuously… With ridiculous logic… But you’re just a caricature now.
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
8:34 pm
“Some of these guys are pretend George Steinbrenner wanna bees” – MB
That is offensive! I am obviously a pretend George Constanza wanna beekeeper. After you apologize please feel free to dissect my breakdown and enlighten me on it’s flaws. I’m a big bekeeper..I can take a sting.
Birdman
October 15th, 2012
8:38 pm
It would be nice to here from SW. Always like to here what my south GA brother has to say
Coop
October 15th, 2012
8:42 pm
SP – Please… For the love of all that is holy… Don’t encourage him. I just can’t take that drivel anymore.
Coop
October 15th, 2012
8:43 pm
Birdman – Cosign. My favorite zoomie.
DHunt
October 15th, 2012
8:44 pm
SP regarding that NFL.com link… One talking knucklehead says our offense doesn’t work, because Turner isn’t lighting it up. One says we can’t be taken seriously until we win a playoff game. Both points are utterly ridiculous, not to mention the playoff comment is far off base from the question being asked in the article.
We get it. We still need to win a playoff game. But to pretend like offenses that rely on passing can’t go far in this league is to defy the evidence of your eyes.
Koetter will be fine. The guy has had a total of 6 real games to work his magic on our offense. Four of them got the results we wanted. The other two were filled with mental mistakes, drops, interceptions, and sketchy execution of the plays that were called. Fire Koetter??? Slow your roll. The guy hasn’t even really gotten started yet. Hasn’t really had a draft to bring in players to fit his scheme yet, and hasn’t presided over a single loss yet.
Birdman
October 15th, 2012
8:47 pm
Coop
Mine also. I pray all is well with him
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
8:49 pm
Actually SP, was not thinking of you with the GS comment, that is directed that fire everyone crowd…But I am curious, how do you know if a play of scheme was a Koetter call, or a Matty check? Do you get actual game film that you break down, or are your observations from watching on TV?
JB FALCON
October 15th, 2012
8:52 pm
Coop & BM, maybe we could cause a hurricane. SW would surely show up. His absence is definitely disturbing. Him & Bir Ray were missing for a while and I asked D# to shoot them an e-m and he contacted BR. BR is back but D3 hasn’t mentioned anything about SW.
D3
October 15th, 2012
8:56 pm
Birdman / JB — No worries. SW comes and goes. Have no fear, he’ll be back soon enough.
Slant Pattern
October 15th, 2012
9:04 pm
“Actually SP, was not thinking of you with the GS comment, that is directed that fire everyone crowd…But I am curious, how do you know if a play of scheme was a Koetter call, or a Matty check? Do you get actual game film that you break down, or are your observations from watching on TV?” – MB
Good. Equating me with a Yankee like GS would be an insult to an actually born in Atlanta Southern not quite a gentlemen yet such as meself. Out of respect for Coop and the fact I need to fire up dinner I’ll hold off on your questions for awhile, nothing personal. I’ll be back later tonight or tommorrow and we can go over Gold…Arizona stuff. Maybe even Chevy…pre-snap read stuff…Chevy.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
9:05 pm
Paddy O
I would disagree, but I would point out that the lesser teams have their stars align against teams all the time. Just a the greats have highs and lows, so do the lowly teams.
We got Carolina after an azz whooping on national TV.
I do not feel Washington is a bad team.
We got the Raiders after a bye week, desperate to compete in their division, which does not have a dominant leader.
I’m not saying the Falcons are perfect. I have conceeded to Wabe that he was right about the Oline. Yet, I know this team I way better than last year and will give the new coordinators a chance.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
9:08 pm
Also, the Falcons did not have three bad games in a row. Defense was poor versus Carolina, offense was poor against the Raiders, and Washington is a good team. Their record does not indicate their skill. They haven’t been blown out all year.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
9:08 pm
NO SP, did not mean disrespect, I have been smaked down by D3 by being a little belligerent at times, but I am sincere. Take your time, we have a few weeks before our next game.
D3
October 15th, 2012
9:14 pm
Working on new post, but you guys have to check this out. This is literally right next to each other on NFL.com article……..
Did the Cowboys find their way, even in a loss?
It’s easy to look at the Dallas Cowboys’ 31-29 loss to the Baltimore Ravens and find the flaws. They were everywhere, starting with the 13 penalties that always seemed to come at the worst possible time, continuing with receiver Dez Bryant’s crucial drop on the late two-point conversion and ending with the time management issues before Dan Bailey’s missed field goal.
Yes, a loss is a loss. But I can’t help but think the Cowboys found an identity on offense. They found themselves.
No, it won’t count for anything in the standings, and no one feels good about it. But there is no shame in losing to a one-loss team on the road on a missed field goal.
Things might be looking up for the Cowboys, even in the dark clouds of a loss.
and then…………
I’m having a difficult time feeling the optimism for the Atlanta Falcons, even with their gaudy undefeated record. They did win a slop-fest, thanks to a pick-six by cornerback Asante Samuel and a long, late field goal by kicker Matt Bryant. But the victory came against the hapless and wounded Oakland Raiders, who had traveled across the country for this contest.
Atlanta’s flaws stand out more than ever. Throwing it all over the place is great, and the Falcons do have two dynamic receivers in Roddy White and Julio Jones. But when the games tighten up and the calendar turns — and the intensity/physicality ramps up — will they be able to move the chains well enough?
So I guess it really is better to lose than win, eh?
And by the way, we’ve done it the other way too. We were one of the best rushing teams in the league when we went 13-3…………remember how that one turned out?
D3
October 15th, 2012
9:21 pm
…………now I remember why the F— I have tuned out the media talking elites for the last 2.5 years. I hope that the coaching staff is gobbling up all this material about being like the worst undefeated team EVER (and their is plenty) as bulletin board material.
BTW, heard today when HC Smith was asked about what he thinks about all the disrespect, he said “I listen to the 70’s on the way into work and 70’s on the way home.” Smart, smart, smart man! When I watched MTV Sports (er, I mean ESPN), the NFL (Propaganda) Network, and talk radio, I literally was an eternally pissed off person all the time, angry as hell. After tuning out these clowns, my life is infinitely better. Every now and then if I need a good chuckle, I’ll head over for a minute to these sorry-F excuses of entertainment (make no mistake, that’s EXACTLY what they are).
Back to post……….
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
9:22 pm
Well, SI had the #1 and #2 team in the power ranking going into Sunday as Texas and 49ers, because, even though the 4ers lost, they were, you know, just that good…and you know how we got embarrassed by the Giants and Packers….ironic, huh?
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
9:34 pm
Again. I’m done for the rest of the week, but before I go just think for a moment:
Two new coordinators.
6-0
Couple bad games out of 6.
As the blog is filled with different opinions, you can believe what you want. I just know I will give these proven coaches a chance to do their jobs. All this talk means nothing right now anyways. The real test will be the post season. So, I will avoid discussing anything ‘fortune teller like’ till then. I’ll be glass half-full till proven otherwise this post season and I will let others be the way they want to be.
Yet, insulting proven NFL coaches after six games is not only arrogant, but down right down right ridiculous–disrespectful. I don’t care how long you have watched the game, or think you know about football… you don’t judge coaches six games into the season with that type of tone. Yeah, we have the talent. Give them time to utilize it fully. They have to learn through experience, just like everyone else does in life.
Again, I recognize there are flaws. I am not homer enough to ignore it. Yet, I am reasonable enough to give the new coaches a chance to fix things. This is a new year with new coaches.
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
9:37 pm
D3
Blog monster please. Don’t feel like typing again. Lol
falcon21
October 15th, 2012
9:39 pm
6 and 0 and headed to Phillie, I’m not gonna say anything about the O-line, I know y’all get tired of hearing me bitch about it. Anyway, I would love to see a beatdown from our D on Mike Prick. Y’all have a great night.
D3
October 15th, 2012
9:43 pm
falcon21 — I never get tired of the OL debate, because as you know, I’m a convert. I used to be righteous as hell about our “OL not being that bad” and turns out I was dead wrong. Finishing up my new post and have a big part about our OL in it.
BL — It’s out.
Birdman
October 15th, 2012
9:46 pm
Thanks D3 .About SW
Cage I need your Prayers for my little girl . I just found out that she was thrown by a horse and is in Newton General with a possible broke leg I am here at Hilton head at work She is home from school for fall break..Please all who believe Pray for my girl.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
9:50 pm
Got my prayers Birdman.
waynester
October 15th, 2012
9:52 pm
This coaching staff has done an admirable job so far and since they’ve been here we’ve made smart adjustments. How they handle the bye and the week leading up to the Eagles will be a big test for what we can expect going forward into a tougher part of the schedule…everybody’s got to unwind and heal up and come back sharp for the long run….
waynester
October 15th, 2012
9:53 pm
birdman
ditto
phil
October 15th, 2012
9:53 pm
You got it, birdman….
As for the Falcons, we DON’T look good, like it or not. It will bite us soon enough….
falcon21
October 15th, 2012
9:57 pm
Birdman, we are there buddy.
JB FALCON
October 15th, 2012
10:01 pm
BM. I know how helpless you feel. I was in LA once and got the call that my son was hospitalized and they didn’t know if he would live. You can be assured that the Almighty is there with her.
Birdman
October 15th, 2012
10:13 pm
Thanks Guys
God Bless you all
I still know nothing yet
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 15th, 2012
10:13 pm
Got’cha covered Birdman!
LRD
October 15th, 2012
10:18 pm
Travel note for the day.. land in Omaha, and go to get the rental car.. and the guy at the counter is wearing his falcons hat, see’s mine, gives me a high five and free upgrade….. gotta love our fans.
Wabe
October 15th, 2012
10:20 pm
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
8:49 pm
“Actually SP, was not thinking of you with the GS comment, that is directed that fire everyone crowd…But I am curious, how do you know if a play of scheme was a Koetter call, or a Matty check? Do you get actual game film that you break down, or are your observations from watching on TV?”
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Not sure about it, but I’ll guess I’m within this ‘crowd’ that you’re referencing. And it’s all good, you don’t have to agree with me. I’ve made my point perfectly clear. I’m not rooting against the Birds hoping Smitty gets fired, I want to see the exact opposite, which is why I point out the obvious flaws when I see them.
But, I’m honestly tired of this debate now. We’re all fans here. Some here obviously believe firmly in giving these guys the benefit of the doubt every step of the way. No disrespect to Big Lou, I respect the dude’s views. But, I think back to last season when he was giving the same speeches, and then the Giants debacle happened. Nothing wrong with being an optimist, I just don’t buy into it at this point, because great regular seasons haven’t translated into postseason success for this group *yet*.
Also, I’m curious, when is this ‘honeymoon’ period for this regime gonna end? A lot of folks get tied up into this notion that because they’re the ‘best regime this franchise has ever had’ and ‘they came in here when we were at rock bottom and pulled us out of it’, criticism against them is blasphemy, or that firing them would be inconceivable. It’s been 5 years now, this franchise will move on from that when we, the fans, actually move on from that. It *was* a good story, and it’s been said a thousand times, but props to AB/TD/SMITTY/RYAN/AND EVERYBODY IN THE ORGANIZATION.
But it don’t mean guys can’t be held accountable for shortcomings now.
LRD
October 15th, 2012
10:22 pm
Oh and did anyone catch the irony of the Chris Houston interception of Mike Vick to stop the eagles… 2 castaways…. just thought it was kinda funny
Big Lou
October 15th, 2012
10:23 pm
Wabe
Yup. We are not gonna agree. I am good with that. I hope I’m right, though. Every fan in here wants the Falcons to win the Superbowl.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 15th, 2012
10:25 pm
@21, Keep the convo going on the OL. I agree with D3, the convo may not be of the glamorous sorts…but it’s much needed.
Speaking of the OL…We didn’t have a #1 pick in the draft, Konz was the closest thing to. Why in the hell are we investing so high in the draft for bench warmers? IMO, 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks should be starting material. Just my humble opinions…
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
10:30 pm
Wabe, good question, when to you give up on a staff? I would say it is apparent that the players have given up on the coaches. When you see the attention span drift, when you see the players look lethargic and stop doing the little things necessary to win games. When it becomes appaent the players no longer believe.
I have not seen anything remotely resembling that on this team.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
10:41 pm
So, SD up by 24-0 on Denver….Here Denver is coming back…Boy does that look familiar.
Matty Bicep
October 15th, 2012
10:47 pm
I look at Carolina game. So the Giants really made them look bad, ask the 9ers about that…..Then they get 10 days, then they come into our house with their season in balance, and we expect them to be pushovers? And if we got “lucky”, they got “lucky” first that JJ stepped out of bounds, and that they recovered the Cam fumble just before the go ahead TD. Why does nobody want to discuss that?
D3
October 15th, 2012
10:58 pm
NEW POST UP CAGE FAMILY! ——
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-fans/2012/10/15/atlanta-falcons-birds-squeak-by-raiders-to-6-0/
See you over there……….in the morning. Gotta hit the bed and get ready to go enact Bill Gates Department of Education, I mean, the US Dept or Ed!