No Caption Needed (AJC)
It was an ugly, ugly win, but the Atlanta Falcons stayed perfect with their come from behind win against the division rival Panthers. Even though it wasn’t pretty, the Falcons showed some serious resolve in finding a way to win when they weren’t playing their best. The bottom line is that the Falcons are 4-0 and they beat a division rival primed for a good game after being embarrassed on Thursday Night Football and having 10 days to prepare for them. A look at the miraculous win…………
It’s been said a million times over, but the cool-as-ice quarterback willed his team to win against absolutely impossible odds. Having to drive 99 yards in less than a minute with no timeouts is the stuff legends are made of. Backing up to the end of his endzone, he chunked the ball 60-65 yards in the air and Roddy White made a huge catch. He engineered the drive against impossible odds and this one has to rank up there with one of the best. The guy is taking the step before our eyes and did all this despite getting beat to death and sacked 7 times.
Roddy Clutch (AJC)
Julio Jones has gotten a lot of the hype about the next great wide receiver, but Roddy White is the one who to turn to when you need to make a play. Julio Jones has gotten the TD catches to date, but Roddy finally got both the yards, touchdowns, and huge plays. Not only did he help rescue the game with his amazing catch, he also had a fantastic touchdown catch where he had to adjust mid-air to haul in the pass. Jones may be the future,
Enough can’t be said about someone who may get overlooked on an offense loaded with weapons and that’s Matt Bryant. Matt Ryan already has the Matty Ice nickname, but Matt Bryant has been absolutely money in clutch situations since he’s been here. Luckily, he hasn’t been needed for a game-winning field goal until Sunday, but making those unbelievable comeback drives mean nothing if your kicker can’t finish the deal.
Was it just a mirage or was there some credence to the offensive line actually looking better in the first 3 games? Right now, statistics have to fall on the side of it being just one bad game against a very hungry defense. And maybe it had something to do with the Panthers scheme seeing something in their 10 days of preparation to confuse Ryan and the offense. But this much is certain: it was a complete nightmare on Sunday, leading to 7 sacks and bringing all those bad feelings about the offensive line roaring back in terrible fashion. Ryan was sacked almost double in one game (7 sacks) that he had in the first three (4).
Sam Baker has always been the lightning rod of criticism, but the left side of the line is doing OK with Baker having a good year and Blalock always being the solid rock with little to no issues. The problem, as many all knew, was the right side of the OL. It comes from a somewhat surprising place in Tyson Clabo. To be sure, Garrett Reynolds is getting the job done but is surely not dominant in the least and still doesn’t project as a long-term option. Clabo has given up a majority of the sacks this year all on his own and has looked downright terrible all year, going back to preseason. Maybe it’s his age catching up or maybe he’s just missing a solid force next to him at right guard, but he’s simply not getting the job done. They made a change with Sam Baker last year, how long will they give Clabo? Lamar Holmes looked just fine in preseason and many Cage members would love to see Clabo move inside to RG (where his size could potentially dominate) and Reynolds move back to his old natural position of right tackle. Todd McClure hasn’t been the worst, but he had some problems on Sunday, as many fans thought would happen as the season wore on. Is the nightmare here to stay or was it just one bad game?
Gotta Stop the Run Better (AJC)
As mentioned above, the offensive line has to get the benefit of the doubt so far in that they did a pretty good job in the first three weeks (even though their run blocking was weak). However, how long will the coaching staff give this OL before a change is made? Last year, Sam Baker got some opportunities in different spots but was yanked in favor of Will Svitek and Joe Hawley, respectively. Same goes for Garrett Reynolds. As fans discussed in the preseason, the likelihood was very great that the same offensive line with so many problems in 2011, would start exactly the same in 2012, with literally no changes made. Sure enough, that’s been the case. If this becomes a trend, fans will at least want to see something change on the OL, including getting looks at Peter Konz and Lamar Holmes, and maybe moving Clabo inside to right guard?
The Panthers exploited one of the Falcons biggest weaknesses in defending the run. The option-give that Newton did was hard for the Birds to stop. Their outside linebackers, Sean Weatherspoon and Stephen Nicholas, have been outstanding, but they’ve operated mostly in the nickel defense. The base 4-3 defense include middle linebacker Akeem Dent and he didn’t have the best of days on Sunday. It’s way too early to make a call on Dent and his future since he’s basically a rookie getting his first live snaps, but it does need to be addressed. Throw in the fact that the Falcons are razor thin at linebacker anyway and it may be time to take a look at one of the defensive ends, like Kroy Biermann, at OLB, allowing Spoon or Nicholas to move inside.
This game had trap written all over it. The Falcons were flying high. The Panthers were humiliated on national TV. Their sophomore Super(interception)Man was called out. The Panthers had 10 full days to prepare for the Falcons. The Birds had a short week in traveling back from the west coast. It may not have been a trap game, but the Falcons surely weren’t at their best and the Panthers knew the importance. On the positive side, the Falcons won a game ugly and that’s all that matters.
However, potentially on the negative side, as longtime Bird Cage member Unca’ Bob said, we may be benefitting from a pretty easy spot of the schedule. We’ve played and won 4 games, but 3 of them have been against the roundly considered weak AFC West. The other was against an NFC South team with 2 losses to show, one of them being a blowout. You can’t control your schedule and the Falcons have won the only games they’ve played, but this game brought many fans back to Earth a little bit and realized there are a ton of areas to improve upon.
Turner the Stud (AJC)
Often beleaguered Falcons running back is showing an rebirth the last two weeks with excellent performances against San Diego and Carolina Panthers. Turner has made some fans (heavily including this author) to eat some major crow. And it will happily be done. Turner may not be the best fit for the offense going forward, but he’s still a major cog on this team filled with explosive offensive weapons.
The title says it all and an ugly win is better than the prettiest of losses or as some call them “moral victories.” The Falcons played their worst football of the year in all aspects and they met a team playing with a major hunger knowing the importance and having plenty of time to prepare. The Falcons found a way to win and that’s a testament to this team’s character in finding ways to win and special seasons are made up of those.
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JJ
October 1st, 2012
6:54 pm
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GregKennesaw
October 1st, 2012
7:23 pm
I’m glad Matt Ryan doesn’t feel the need to pose after a good play.
Sick & Tired Of Being Sick & Tired
October 1st, 2012
7:34 pm
All I can say is…..THAT WAS ONE HELL OF AN ENDING TO THE GAME!!!! The team continued to fight back after losing the lead. Hopefully that will help them later in the season to know that they can always come from behind to win the game.
The Dome was again rocking and it is only going to get better with each home game. I just wish the Dome security could get their act together better so that they can minimize the time fans have to stand in the long lines prior to the game…..e.g., maybe add more security to move more people through the scanners quicker….??????
falcon21
October 1st, 2012
7:38 pm
The comeback was amazing. I love the fire this team is playing with. Although we didn’t play well in many areas in this game, we still found a way to win. The coaches are going to have to address the O-line soon or Matt may take the hit we all are worried about. Speaking of Matt Ryan, “WOW”. The dude is incredible, he took a beating and still kept making the big plays. The weak arm BS can be put to rest!
Birdman
October 1st, 2012
7:42 pm
Hello Cage
Back in Hilton head with the work . My thoughts of the game .
Matt Ryan has got to have more protection in the pocket . And our D has got to some how stop the run . The Ice man looked good once again even after he was put on the turf 7 times . Outstanding throw to RW and a heck of a houl in by RW .
My concern with Jones is ,is he going to be hurt a lot . I have heard its just his hand and that his main job Sunday was a decoy . But it still conserns me . Next week is a game that now I am not so sure about but we should win. M Turner was a beast Sunday but the Panthers suck at stoping the run . The Birds were just not in the click as far as I saw and they need to fix some problems . To me the D just did not look like they had the drive are the spark they have had in the first 3 games . Almost a lazy look compared to the other games .
I look forword to the reads this week . Everyone have a Blessed week
Birdman
October 1st, 2012
7:48 pm
Them other Birds looked good last night . They will run the ball all over the Falcons if somthing ant fixed before we meet
GO FALCONS !!!!!!!
JB FALCON
October 1st, 2012
7:56 pm
I grazed through all of the past quotes and did not find one prediction less than a two touchdown win for the Falcons. Meaning, no one expected that game to turn out like it did. Mine was 38-10 Falcons and I am among the surprised. Of course we’ll take the win and I think the comeback attitude was one of the few positive things I liked. We will learn from this and the CS will take whatever steps possible, within what we have to work with, to make corrections. We will be stronger next week against RGIII and Co.
Getaway
October 1st, 2012
8:01 pm
I give the Panthers a lot of credit for taking advantage of their 10 days to prepare for the Falcons. I think the Falcons were more distracted this week with the flight back from the west coast, another arrest, and all the media attention.
Yesterday served as something of a wake up call, I have a much better feeling about this coming game. Was it just me, or did all of the pressure come from the right side? I don’t think Baker gave up much did he?
on track
October 1st, 2012
8:16 pm
I’m a little concerned about the defense not getting much of a pass rush to QB’s. If they had gotten in Cam’s face no telling what the score could have been. Atlanta still leaves too many points on the field..gotta tweak the little things. Loved Ryan and his show of attitude…get the $@#* off our field!!!!!!
Paddy O
October 1st, 2012
8:27 pm
Pass rush and O line protection were problems. the O line play was horrific. even with extra O line men in there mimicking TE’s. I saw Gallarda make a nice block on a run. folks must be seriously looking at tape of Clabo – and concluding he is SLOW and vulnerable to an outside speed rush. We need to use an I formation with the fullback (snelling or Turner) providing Clabo with help, and still being able to use Quizz for screens. Ryan was slower in his reads this game – could be good Panther coverage; plus the general absence of JJ; but then, we need to get Harry D in the game – despite that glaring drop. I don’t get the Turner passing – although the 1 success was wildly good; he did drop 2 others. hit or miss I suppose; we got lucky – Cam is not yet a very accurate passer; but his style of option play drove us nuts – we need a Cam spy. AT least we were on the Giants – Vick suckered Omeniori all night long – and Vick still has some wheels you gotta respect. 2 VERY LONG, beautiful passed from Matty Ice to RW84. Still the most effective tandem in the NFL. We might start to consider drafting another Fineran/possession type guy – we still have not replaced him on the roster (Meier was the heir apparent). Somebody else mentioned it – try Holmes at RT. OR, we MUST give Clabo help. IF baker starts to get leaky, we have serious problems.
Paddy O
October 1st, 2012
8:30 pm
JB – I apparently gave our D too much praise – I thought we’d hold them to 2 FG’s – mine was 38-6. However, Dunta played a really good game, and Cam did a much better job of protecting the ball. Moore was off a bit; but DeCoud still looked good – did not see much of Spoon or NIcholas. Like our D line play despite the lack of sacks. Bierman looked very good. Our CB’s played well over all.
Paddy O
October 1st, 2012
8:35 pm
final comments, then I’ll see you folks tomorrow: Matt Ryan and his arm won this game. 369 yards; 3 TD – that is nice and close enough to elite for me. I also must say our special teams have played well – well coached; All aspects. But, we got lucky to win that one. We need some long hard work in the film room prior to the next game. I hope Julio gets healthy – I’d like to see both our guns going long.
Arno
October 1st, 2012
8:38 pm
The Panthers came in loose, focused, and ready to play. Looking for a re-start on their season. Same could be said of Chiefs, Broncos, and Chargers– looking for a statement game against the Falcons. Makes these four wins all the more impressive.
Box
October 1st, 2012
9:07 pm
The seasons with Dahl, Clabo seemed to be an asset, but now a liability. New scheme, RG play, or conditioning? Just a question that seems appropriate.
Rick
October 1st, 2012
9:09 pm
I love the intensity of this year vs last year….coaching has made a change in the confidence and the player enjoyment of the game..
Smith also appears more confident and in control of this team. I love what I’m seeing
Chop Buster
October 1st, 2012
9:20 pm
Carolina came prepared to beat the Falcons yesterday. It was a good experience for the team overall and let them know where the obvious holes still exist…OL, lack of pressure on the QB, went back into zone most of the day (lost the aggressiveness), gave Cam way too much respect. LBs were taken out of the game as well. Ryan showed what he’s made of after being sacked 7 times. Last year he would have went down at the first sign of pressure, now he’s hanging in there and delivering balls at the last minute. The team is 4-0 and hopefully this game them more fight for the other fights that they will for sure in upcoming games. We just don’t have the pieces in place to make our defense really stout right now. They’ve been doing pretty good with what they have–which is unbelievable. Keep fighting and Julio needs his hand healed which will take time.
SCFalcon
October 1st, 2012
9:36 pm
Heck, I’m just glad Matt Ryan doesn’t fly around the field like a fairy before the game or do some silly superman routine. The Charlotte Observer hit the nail on the head concerning Cam Newton. “hello kitty”
On to the next game. They will all be tough from this point forward.
JB FALCON
October 1st, 2012
9:43 pm
I have been trying to find out exactly how serious JJ’s hand problem is. Anyone have more luck than “Jones has a history of coming up with some sort of injuries.” I’m looking for something more specific than that. Players who play hard are more inclined to get injured more and I wouldn’t want to think his history, if that’s true, is repeating itself.
Has anyone got any details on the current injury?
Wabe
October 1st, 2012
9:48 pm
I’m as stoked as anybody we won. This is one of those games you can either view the glass half-full or half-empty. As happy as I am with the win, there are questions that need to be answered moving forward.
1 – the O-Line
Dumervil and Von Miller was a test. I thought Denver’s defense as a whole wasn’t all that bad. Carolina’s defense shouldn’t have had as much success as they did, especially up front. I think theree was a combination of things going wrong. As we all have noticed, Ryan’s been getting that ball out of his hands extremely quickly this season. I think we saw him hold that ball a bit longer than he wanted to yesterday mainly because the coverage was probably tight. Result = sacks. Regardless of what it was, we need to get that area corrected. I don’t wanna see our franchise QB taking that kind of beating. If the Panthers can manage to rattle our line like that, think of playoff type teams like the G-Men, Iggles, Bears, Niners, Clay Matthews and the Packers.
2 – Rush Defense
Are we gonna be able to stop the run when necessary. I know we played a whole new element yesterday with Cam Newton. But, our run defense hasn’t been all that stellar this season. It’s been middle of the road. Teams that come out looking to pound that football, like the Niners, are teams that we’ll need to be more stout against. They definitely need to work on this as the season continues. We’ll face teams in the playoffs that’ll be determined to run the football.
3 – Playmakers
Bottom line, find ways to get Julio Jones the ball. Period. We can sit here and say that RW84 is going nuts thanks to Julio commanding coverage, but truth is, Roddy’s been putting up numbers and monster games wayyyyy before Julio got here. This offense needs to get both of these guys going at the same time. Julio can’t just be a decoy. Dude needs to be involved. He’s disappearing wayyy too much in these games. He had himself a monster game against KC, disappeared vs Denver, had moments against SD, and yesterday again, was AWOL for a good chunk of that game. Get him, and even HD for that matter, more touches.
Rick
October 1st, 2012
9:53 pm
Jb. JJ has a laceration on his right had….
Wabe
October 1st, 2012
9:55 pm
Despite all of the concerns, I am happy with the 4-0 record. I’m happy with what we’ve done thus far. I understand you can’t blow everybody out. I understand they had 10 days to prepare.
So, I’m happy we got the win. I remember the Bears vs Cardinals when Dennis Greene made the infamous ‘the bears are who we thought they were’. I remember the Falcons vs Niners when Roddy stripped Nate Clements. Sometimes, you just gotta find ways to get it done. Yesterday was one of those games.
But, can’t overlook the potential flaws, and I’m sure Smitty and company won’t. Smitty + TD know that even a 16-0 season won’t mean anything unless we’re successful come playoff time. Continue to improve and rack up the wins.
SCFalcon
October 1st, 2012
9:56 pm
I hope it wasn’t a 3 am injury while doing something stupid. JJ has been a great addition to this point. TG and RW difinately think so!
Rick
October 1st, 2012
10:00 pm
Haha SC. He cut it in the opening drive of the SD …stitched up in locker room and he came back out….hear that it’s still causing problems but I’m thinking hell be close to 100% Sunday….he still makes a great decoy regardless right?
JB FALCON
October 1st, 2012
10:03 pm
Rick, do you have details. I had a “laceration” shaving the other day!
JB FALCON
October 1st, 2012
10:06 pm
Wabe, very good analogy and post. I’ll let you continue everything I have to say tonight. Bedtime for me.
falcon21
October 1st, 2012
10:11 pm
JB, from what I hear the laceration is between the fingers, kind of a split. It’s not that easy to deal with.
TalkReal
October 1st, 2012
10:32 pm
In conclusion I am excited about the win and our 4-0 record. My opion of the teams play this week is nothing more than a disappointment. I observed as rushed 7 to eight people and yet unable to record a sack, I also observed as players took plays off routinely and over pursued without a thought. I believe that there should be more incentive and effort placed on sacks and not just pressuring the quarterback as well as more chewig out of players who take plays off. I say this because i belive that this is what it willtake to win a superbowl. I belive we are talented but still lack focus.
TalkReal
October 1st, 2012
10:37 pm
Also when is Julio ever going to be the receiver we all thought he was. Julio was suppose to be something like michael irvin but yet hes ditsy. He drops more balls than he catches, lacks effort, ad apparently doesnt know how to keep two feet in. love that roddy continues to play like the number one receiver he is but more effort and production out of julio and harry wouldnt be to much to ask. Defense run with your heads up and stay alert, sacks,fumble recoveries and tackles are very important.
Screen Pass
October 1st, 2012
11:08 pm
“Pass rush and O line protection were problems. the O line play was horrific. even with extra O line men in there mimicking TE’s. I saw Gallarda make a nice block on a run. folks must be seriously looking at tape of Clabo – and concluding he is SLOW and vulnerable to an outside speed rush. We need to use an I formation with the fullback (snelling or Turner) providing Clabo with help, and still being able to use Quizz for screens. ” – Paddy O
I’m watching the Bears and Cowgirls game atm, I like the Walsh style stlants M. Tice is using to help combat Ware/ Dallas pass rush. The Coryell style passing game while effective can leave QB’s vulnerable to blitzes and good DE play. Koetter has done an ok job but I would like to see him incorporate a little more Walsh horizontal quick passing in addition to screens/ shovels etc. to help offset the pass rush. The blend of vertical and horizontal that OC’s like S. Peyton have started to come up with are hard to beat and seemingly the new flavor of things.
If one looks at the weaknesses of the Panthers D, the run game and deep passes against their secondary stand out. I can see how Koetter/ Smith game planned to try to take advantage of that but it should have become clear by the third sack we might wanna go away from the deeper, longer developing routes. We have the skill position talent to make Koetters Coryell be a dangerous offense but we just don’t have the line play yet. It might take awhile for that improvement to happen against better D’s so we should be looking at more scheme alternatives. We did see Turner finally break a shovel pass for a TD…will give future DCs something to think about at least. If we continue to have to utilize extra linemen it takes away from playcalling versatility and match-up advantages.
DHunt
October 2nd, 2012
1:41 am
Slant Pattern, Shovel Pass, SP you beat me to the punch on where I think the Falcons passing offense needs to improve to take some pressure of MR2.
Julio didn’t run the best routes yesterday, However, MR2 deserves some criticism for not putting the ball in good places for him to catch it. I saw at least one attempted quick slant where the ball was late and behind JJ11 and allowed the defender to make a play. JJ has to do better at getting some separation on that route though. ON the deep ball that JJ didn’t get two feet in bounds, (A) and obvious pass interference where the defender arm barred him slowed him down so he couldn’t get to the ball in time to not need to make a spectacular play, (B) even with the lacerated hand he made the catch, (C) WHY can’t MR2 throw that ball in bounds? If he doesn’t lead the receiver out of bounds, that’s another 60+ yard touchdown, and again the game isn’t even close.
Matt isn’t looking quite as crisp trying to hit moving receivers, and I think that tendency is being noted and exploited by defensive backs who are jumping a lot of our standard stop routes. I also think the tendency has been noted by the coaching staff who seem to be calling for fewer crossing, slant, and go routes. Again, not taking anything away from the two deep passes to Roddy, but honest appraisal is that Roddy made hella good adjustments to get both of those balls.
If you are honest about MR2, that interception at the goal line was a pass that was thrown behind JJ as he was crossing behind the safety that made the pick. If Matt leads him there it’s another easy touchdown. Taking nothing away from the fact the Matt Ryan stepped up at the end when it mattered most, he made a few glaring throwing mistakes that made the game far closer than it should have been. Mistakes that did not appear to be caused by the pressure he dealt with (and dealt with reasonably well I might add) all day. He really should have had 5 touchdowns and over 400 yards.
For those who still harp on the cost for getting Julio and his supposed “injury prone” nature. He took a big hit (helmet to his hand) on the first play of the Charger game, coming across the middle and still hung on to the ball. It’s very unfortunate that he was injured, and how and where he was injured. But it’s a pretty crab move to get down on JJ11 based on this injury, that he is playing through. He didn’t have a drop yesterday. He may need to attack the ball a little better to keep it away from defenders, but that’s something young wide receivers learn as they progress at this level. Way to much negativity about Julio at this stage of his career, in my humble opinion.
And can we please get Quizz the ball in space just a little bit more? Every time we do he’s good for at least 8-12 yards.
JosephDaKoolest a.k.a No Answer For Julio
October 2nd, 2012
3:21 am
I agree 100% with Wabe….The Panthers had extra time to prepare and they took full advantage of it. Now that doesn’t excuse poor play on our part. The O-line continue to play like they played in the first 3 games. Matt Ryan must continue to get the ball out quickly like he did in the first 3 games. And the D must continue to play better on 3rd down like they did in the first 3 games. My only concern is Mike Nolan only saving the exotic defense for “elite teams or “elite QBs” I know you wanna show different things on film from a week to week basis, but I wanna see better play to play, quarter to quarter, and better second half adjusments. Overall very proud of our response to playing behind particularly in the 4th quarter. We are entitled to a game like this during the season and teams are going to play us better. I understand that we won’t play perfect every game. But I like the resolve and the fight in our entire team. And we can never have enough pressure on the QB for me. I think we will play much better against Washington. I am just glad we were able to win this type of game. We lost a few of these games in the past. GO Falcons!!!! The Real A Town Got Your Back!!!!!!
JoeCool23
October 2nd, 2012
3:25 am
Jeez.
JosephDaKoolest a.k.a No Answer For Julio
October 2nd, 2012
3:29 am
And for all the Julio REALLY????? Julio Jones has been double teamed since the first game of his rookie season. And that was without a training camp or OTA’s. Yeah he can always improve but he does improve from week to week. He is running better routes and catching the ball. He will just have to learn how to beat double teams and the offensive coordinater has to learn how to move him around and put him better situations to succeed. But Julio is fine trust me…….Go Falcons!!!! The Real A Town Got Your Back!!!!!!
bytejockey
October 2nd, 2012
3:33 am
Helloooooo, Kitty!
Meowwwwwwwch.
don
October 2nd, 2012
6:21 am
We also did an article tlaking about the falcons the saints and a plethora of teams right here http://halftimechat.com/week-4-recap/
waynester
October 2nd, 2012
8:32 am
Luck is a factor in football. While it’s true you can “make your own luck” through preparation there is always an”X-factor” and how you react to those unexpected “bounces” says a lot about your team. Getting a punt downed inside the 1 yd line with a minute to go looked like good luck for the Panties but our preparation was enough to overcome it. We have to be able to still pull out wins under such circumstances and under Smith/Ryan we have….
In hindsight, it sure stinks that we didn’t want to spend the $$$ to grab Charles Johnson from CAR a couple of seasons ago. We “settled” for Ray Edwards, instead–doesn’t look too wise in retrospect….
HCMS was right about the QB pressures not being entirely the O-Line’s fault. Ryan was holding the ball too long(which we saw) and WRs not breaking off their routes to help Matt(which we couldn’t) and the Panters have an excellent pass-rush. A lot of factors had to come together for CAR to get all that pressure on Ryan.
HCMS is becoming a much sharper operator on the sidelines. He’s reacting faster and making good decisions at the right times. The “timeout” ploy was just another example of how Smitty is growing as a HC…..
Unca' Bob
October 2nd, 2012
8:50 am
I don’t know exactly how to put this so I’ll simply say it. I’m not sure we are the football team we seem to be. We are 3-0 against the AFC West and staggered Sunday while up against our division rival. We are in the middle of the league in yards allowed and yards gained. We have scored more points and given up fewer points this year than last but, outside of the Charger game we are above last years average. Is it smoke and mirrors or are we ligit?
D3
October 2nd, 2012
8:53 am
Nice read (for the most part). Not sure where they get “less than stellar defense” BS. Peyton Manning 3 INTS in 1st quarter, Phillip Rivers — completely shut down. Sure, (s)Cam had a good day, but you’re not going to shut down every offense and QB, especially those who had 10 days to prepare.
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/at-n-f-l-quarter-pole-matt-ryan-is-most-valuable/
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
9:26 am
What I see in these posts is the staple of most Atlanta fans–knee jerk reactions.
Let me respond to a couple posts first, before giving my two cents.
SP
I totally and 100% agree with your suggestions. Quick slants, especially to Julio, would be a great way to take advantage of soft zone coverage by the secondary and allow MR2 to eat up the blitz. Also, a Quizz/Turner in the backfield at the same time could improve our run game even more and allow a couple of blitz killing plays. Personally, I feel they should have ran the ball more that game, period.
Unca’Bob
Stats do not always tell the story. Remember that in those NFC west games, the Falcons had a commanding lead in the 3rd or 4th and played conservative ball at the end. If they were closer games like Carolina, the offense would most likely be top in the league. Also, takeaways and red zone defense is what really matters in the NFL. Mike Nolan’s defenses has always allowed yards to the offenses in his history(since he gambles with blitzes), but they always have great points allowed/turnover margin. Also, keep in mind that Cam had a average day at best through the air(Falcons are still top ten in the league in the secondary play).
DHunt
The play where Matt threw to Julio and he stepped out of bounds was more on the receiver twisting his bod around and not having proper balance. The ball was placed where it should have been. Also, Matt Ryan was getting killed all day behind the line of scrimmage. It’s kinda hard to spread the love, when you are not having enough time to throw/go through your passing progression. Matt had 369 yards… 25-40 due to dropped passes/penalties(one being to Roddy in the end zone). I do not think the QB is the issue here. Only dumb play he made was the interception the end zone. Before yesterday, Matt was doing a great job at spreading the love across the field. The receivers need to get their heads in the game and catch the dang balls(Julio has a lot this year so far).
Wabe
I agree there needs to be something done about the o-line. I bet anything Patt Hill will have the issues addressed by the next game against Washington. Let’s see the coaching adjustments. Also, if I remember correctly, Matt Ryan had created tons of plays for Julio to get the ball, but he isn’t making the catches. It’s Julio’s second season. He will get better as the season progresses.
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
9:38 am
D3
I completely agree. You cannot just negate the defensive performances against River and Manning, due to one game. Mike Nolan’s defense strives against PASSING QBs, but is currently weaker against RUNNING QBS like Cam/RG3/Vick. I believe the defense had a rough time also due to the option plays, where Cam read the zone defensive schemes. I believe he will make the adjustments needed for RG3, like he did against Cam on Sunday. I expect a spy to be set up to focus on the QB to prevent him from running out of the pocket during pass plays.
I am not worried about the defense at all. I am more concerned about our o-line/receiver play more than anything else.
Greg Mendel
October 2nd, 2012
9:41 am
Unca’ Bob’s question is interesting, and I don’t know the answer. I think at least some of what we’re seeing is “smoke and mirrors.” But I also think smoke and mirrors — well employed — have their proper place.
Mulling over the Carolina game, I think it’s a mistake to underestimate the impact of Cam Newton. As much as his behavior grates on me, the fact is that he’s a very talented and versatile player who played hard last Sunday. Playing from the shotgun works well for his particular talents and style of play, while it makes him harder for defenders to reach.
On the subject of Julio, I think his presence — even with a hurt hand — is huge. I don’t think he’s going to be hampered by constant injuries. He plays hard, but he’s really a pretty big guy. Sky’s the limit with Julio. It’s just a matter of experience and figuring out how best to use him.
As far as his out-of-bounds catch, I can’t criticize too much. His momentum (hard and fast) was practically hurling him out-of-bounds when he made the catch. Also, I think he was determined to make the catch and run with it. Split-second decision that, had it worked, would have resulted in 6 points. Those extra, possibly all the way, yards is what Julio is capable of, and those will start to come with regularity. Just imagine the Falcons with a hybrid of Julio and Gonzo!
BIG DOG
October 2nd, 2012
9:55 am
Teams are now understanding if you shut down Julio Jones then you have a shot in shutting the Falcons down, HA
Panthers played cover 3 on Julio, SMH
Had over the top help and also LB fall back in zone on Julio side, JUST DAM
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
9:57 am
Alright, my thoughts on the game.
Matt Ryan is having one heck of a year so far. He is really maturing into a veteran in the league and the hands down MVP so far this season. He has played against respectable defenses(except for KC), and has preformed well, even with bad O-line play against Carolina. The guy has resolve, but we already knew that. Let’s hope that this is the season where he gets that playoff monkey off his back.
Roddy still has it. I know the guy runs his mouth more than we like, yet he is backing it up this year. He has been more productive and has been more focused than I have ever seen him before. He would have had three touchdown catches yesterday if it weren’t for him being tripped in the endzone(can’t believe the refs didn’t call that).
What happened to the offensive line? Was it bad preparation? Non-focused effort? Time will tell on next Sunday and I am more than sure that Pat Hill will make the adjustments necessary. Yet, it is a concern that most fans are having. I just hope it’s a hiccup like the Packers had against the Seahawks.
Our secondary is LEGIT. Did you see how Cam had to reduce himself to running the ball? How he had to hold on to the ball for long periods of time, which lead to sacks? We have one of the best secondaries in the league and are currently top 10 in passing yards allowed. THIS IS WITHOUT GRIMES!
Our run defense needs improvement. As I stated before, I feel the game against Carolina was more on Cam running the option/their potent running offense, but there still needs to be better play from our line. I see the running backs get to the second level too often. I expect Mike Nolan to make the right changes.
All in all, this was a divisional battle against a team who was trying to prove its worth. They were backed in a corner and gave it their all against us. We were resilient and pulled out a victory. There will be a couple more games like this during the season, and as long as we stay the course and never give up… I will be a happy fan.
Let’s wait for a TREND to get to anxious about this Falcons team. I am still liking what I see so far.
BIG DOG
October 2nd, 2012
10:00 am
Falcons must get Julio the ball by any means necessary, teams now are doing there best to shut him down, this is good news for Gonzalez and White.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
snacktastic
October 2nd, 2012
10:10 am
I mentioned before the game that I was looking for the deep game to open up. With two huge bombs to Roddy White, I can’t say I’m not satisfied. It’s not like Ryan’s going to sling it 50 yards every other play, but I’m glad the few times he did send it downfield worked out.
As for Julio, he will show up like he did last season. Not sure how bad the hand injury is, but if he’s in the game, he has a chance to have an impact. Better than him not being on the field at all.
Hamad Meander
October 2nd, 2012
10:11 am
I find nothing to criticize with this team at this point. We are 4-0. NOBODY predicted we would win our first 4 games and for that I am happy. Carolina played a pretty good game against us and we still found a way to win. Roddy was monster, and Matt was clutch. Turner looked fast (!) on that screen and actually caught a ball.
These are the types of wins that create the sense within the team that they can win every game they play. I loved it.
Wings
October 2nd, 2012
10:27 am
There are no knee jerk reactions especially Unca’Bob’s question. BL post but please stop dismissing other people’s comments.
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
10:45 am
Wings
Don’t try to start anything. I never said Unca’Bobs question was knee jerk.
Most of my responses were in agreement. I was dismissive to none of the people I responded to. All the individuals I responded to were individuals I felt were objective about the game. I do not bother to respond to knee jerk reactions.
Please, bring something to the table or do not post anything towards me at all.
I am entitled to my opinion. And my knee jerk reaction comment was general, not focused on individuals.
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
10:48 am
I respect Unca’Bobs posts more than anyone else in here. He says little, to the point, and when he isn’t having link issues… has given great articles.
If anything, he is one of the optimistic individuals on this board. If anything, I wish fans were more even keel like him.
Wabe
October 2nd, 2012
11:01 am
UB, valid question.
I think we’re a better football team than last season. I never had the expectation of this defense being a ‘top 5 caliber’ defense. I don’t think they need to be. As long as they’re opportunistic and Nolan’s aggressive scheme results in ‘mistakes’ by opposing QB’s, I’m happy. I know teams will move the football. As long as we don’t make it easy for them or play ‘reactive’, I’m happy. For the 1st time this season, I felt we were a bit more ‘reactive’ on Sunday. Sunday seemed more like a scheme designed by BVG than Mike Nolan. I saw a lot of 3-4 man rushes. Didn’t see as many exotic blitz packages. But, I’m not as worried. I’m confident Nolan will get this defense playing at a level we need them to be at in order to win playoff games.
Regarding our strength of schedule, some folks might dismiss it, but, our schedule hasn’t been all that difficult. I think most of us felt that way coming into the season. I personally felt we needed to take advantage of this 1st quarter to quarter and a half of the season before we got into the meat of the schedule (@ Philly, Dallas, NOLA then division). I think we’ve done what we’re supposed to do. We’ve won the games we were supposed to win without really slipping up. A lot of the ‘experts’ predicted a fall last week @ SD, and we blew the Chargers out. The Chargers aren’t a ‘great’ football team, middle of the pack at best IMO. But, don’t think anybody could downplay us going out west on a short week and blowing the doors off them. The Broncos may not be a ‘great’ team either, but we were pretty convincing 3 quarters of that game. 27-7 going into the 4th is pretty convincing to me, even though I think the Smitty brakes nearly put us in a bad spot.
Bottom line, through 4 games, we’re 4-0. As teams get more tape on us, they’ll pick up on tendancies. Can we adjust? More importantly, will we see real growth on both sides of the ball? I honestly think our offense is capable of droppin’ 35-40 consistently a game. Juggernaut potential. We’ve been solid thus far. But, I think the potential for ‘greatness’ is there. Can they grow into that as the season goes on? The Carolina game wasn’t all that impressive. But, flying back home from out West, playing against a desperate division rival who had 10 days to rest, maybe it wasn’t so smart for me to think we were gonna blow them away. The 7 sacks are concerning. But, again, we held up well against Dumervil and Von Miller, and IMO, that’s a better front than the one Carolina brought to the Dome. I just think they caught us playing our C game and they came with their best punch. They did raise concerns, no doubt. But, I still think this team has the potential to make a deep run in the postseason, a Superbowl run.
If our line holds up as it did the first 3 weeks, we’ll be legit. If our line stumbles, our playoff hopes go with it. That’s how I see it. Ryan’s playing some of the best QB in the league thus far. No doubt he can get us there if we protect the dude. That has to be the point of emphasis all season going into the postseason.
Wabe
October 2nd, 2012
11:07 am
This team will go as far as this offense takes them.
And this offense will go as far as this offensive line takes them.
SeminoleWarrior
October 2nd, 2012
11:21 am
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/seat-licenses-eyed-for-falcons-stadium/nSQ5p/
Told you that the focus was much more on the stadium deal than it should have been at times.
Amazing how well they were working to keep this undercover.
SeminoleWarrior
October 2nd, 2012
11:25 am
As far as this post, D3, you nailed it perfectly with one word. ESCAPE.
Will hold my comments for a quarterly review of the season to this point.
Bill Herbig
October 2nd, 2012
11:27 am
What was with Smitty pushing the assistant coach after the kick-off? Did he want a squib kick and we fooloishly kicked it deep and left time on the clock? Am I the only one in Atl that saw this? I love Smitty but thought this wasn’t such a good move. Loved the wIn. MB. 13 for 13 in game winners!,,,,,
SeminoleWarrior
October 2nd, 2012
11:30 am
Bill, I saw it. How about the exchange between AB and Smitty on the sideline.
Both were very uncharacteristic moves. Will not make much of it now but will watch for repeats as the season (and the pressuere) moves on.
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
11:37 am
Wabe
Nolan did use blitz packages, but we got burnt on the run on those plays, especially the one where Can ran up the middle for 20 plus yards. It’s hard to do exotic blitzes against an option offense. The players have to execute better on adjusting to the QB, instead of just running head first into the O-line.
Big Ray
October 2nd, 2012
11:44 am
Big Lou ,
Good stuff all the way around.
Unca Bob ,
You misspelled “legit.”
Yes, I’m picking at you. Always glad to read your comments, but I couldn’t let Big Lou be perceived as the only person going after your comments, even though he actually wasn’t doing that.
Wings ,
I wish I had some wings right now. Maybe some honey bbq ones from Pizza Hut. But I can’t eat anything right now. Sitting in a hospital room “eating” through an IV line. It sucks.
knievel
October 2nd, 2012
11:46 am
Well, it was a tough weekend for both of my favorite teams. The Dawgs looked like the dawgs of last year and previous year. The only thing different is they found a way to win. The Falcons did the same. They found a way to win. They say that’s what good (almost great) teams do, win…. I’m just glad to have the W ‘ s Go Falcons and Dawgs!!
SeminoleWarrior
October 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
BR, what’s up with the hospital? Get the HELL out of there soon, bro!! Thoughts and best wishes are with ya.
Big Ray
October 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
Ryan made some mistakes out there, but the only real “botch job” was on the INT.
I think that some folks are forgetting two things about Julio, one of which has already been mentioned:
1) He’s a 2nd year man. He has room to grow. He was also not brought in here as option #1.
2) He played in a run-heavy offense in college (Alabama). The man is still developing into a WR in general , not just an NFL WR. He’s doing both at once. What you’re seeing on the field are the following – his instincts, his athleticism, his experience level. There is room for growth…and actually, we should be happy about that, even if it can be frustrating to see those “almost” plays. At least we know Ryan won’t give up on him.
Our defense had a rough time against a very mobile QB who limited his passing game against us. Fact is, I think that had more to do with play-calling than anything. The Panthers had plenty of time to prepare. They knew they had three running threats with Cam, DeAngelo Williams, and Jonathon Stewart. They also knew we could pick off some of the best QBs in the game, so a pass heavy game against Nolan’s defense was only going to be trouble. They learned that the hard way against the G-Men, who have a pass-rushing advantage over our squad.
I do have to say, I like seeing Kroy Biermann playing with NO hands in the dirt. I still have Seminole Warrior’s suggestion bouncing around in my head….want to stop the run? Let the Bier Truck play some MLB. Hell, he can even cover….dude played deep in the backfield on a play or two….we know he has some speed.
I agree that we can find ways to keep getting the ball out of Ryan’s hands quickly. Use HD more if Julio is struggling. Of course, HD has to catch the ball. He dropped a sure one against Carolina.
I don’t think Ryan made as many mistakes as some might have seen. He overcame a lot. I do get the comments about him throwing behind a guy or something like that. But also, we didn’t run many routes where he could dink and dunk really effectively. They were longer-developing plays.
One last thought before I climb back in this hospital bed….we don’t give the Panthers enough credit. The only thing they are really bad at is their run defense and when they have to pass the ball 40 times or more. Even then, the passing game is all about Cam’s limited options in their passing offense and more specifically his penchant for making mistakes by forcing throws.
Ok, one more thing – we all enjoyed a great game by Michael Turner. One thing to note – he still does not prototypically fit this offense when it comes to the passing part. That 60 yard shovel pass? That’s the pass you throw to him. It’s very short, so he doesn’t have to turn, then face a defender right away.
Those other passes to him were ineffective. Why? Because they were longer plays, for one thing. For another thing, he wasn’t open for long. Turner needs to be facing the ball SQUARE when he receives a pass, or he’ll often drop it. And after he squares up, he has to turn and get himself started. It’s not a quick process by any means, and he struggles with making guys miss unless he has ample room to operate in.
This is not a knock on Turner at all…it’s a fact. This isn’t his game, but the short, short shovel pass when he has room to operate works very well…as we saw. It was a RB-oriented pass. If it is in any way a “receiver” type of pass…basically anything more than 3-5 yards of “air time”, then it will fail if he doesn’t have ample room to get himself set. Why? Turner breaks tackles when he’s in “full motion”…not when he’s trying to get going from a full stop or with less than 3 yards of momentum. It’s just the way he is built.
af fan
October 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm
Bill,
Smitty was upset because we only had 10 men on the field for Carolina’s last play.
He called a timeout (which Atlanta did not have) to get the 11th player on the field.
Smitty later apologized for his actions.
Big Ray
October 2nd, 2012
12:05 pm
SW ,
Bariatric surgery. Lap-band to be more specific. I don’t look like I need it, but sleep apnea, type II diabetes, and hypertension…some of it hereditary, some not….all things I want to be rid of before I reach my 40s. Problem is I should have been out of there. Lap band won’t let anything through either because of excessive swelling or because I need a bigger one. We will soon find out if the swelling can be reduced enough. IF not, then back to the operating table I go….first operation was yesterday morning.
Until then, all “eating and drinking” is going through an IV line for me. Can’t even sip water, because everything gets caught in the esophagus and cannot go down. I’m hating life, but there are always folks who have it worse, so I am not complaining very much.
Just staring at the walls, and playing games on the nurses….
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
12:07 pm
Big Ray
Hope you get better man! God speed.
I would be playing with the nurses, as well.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 2nd, 2012
12:30 pm
Great Win on Sunday!!! Not the impressive of wins, but I’ll take’em any way we can get’em. Adversity builds character, our teams cup should be runneth over with character after last Sundays game. First off, I would like to get into something that happend on the side-lines nearing the games end, I don’t know exactly what was going on between A. Blank, Smith…but it wasn’t nice. Did any of you see the look A. Blank gave Smitty? I agree with SW, I’ll stay tuned in as well…see whats up with this deal.
Some glaring defensive/offesive line issues that need to be worked through before Sunday. I am not that concerned, IMO, I think we will make the neccesary tweaks. But, what I will say, Nolan defensive scheme is very friendly to mobile quarterbacks. The defense actually began to be exsposed when we played KC’s Matt Cassel, the two games inbetween, we (defense) was able to dictate to much less mobile (running QB’s), Cam Newton gashed the middle of the interior defense. I don’t know what Nolan will do to limit RG3, all I know, Shanahan will probably mimic the panthers Offensive game plan…use RG3 much like panthers did Newton.
There were positives on the defensive side of the ball. The secondary played outstanding. IMO. Cam Newton had time to bake a cake in the pocket…and still couldn’t find and open receiver. We need a consistant pass rush…we’ll be a more legit unit. Just My Opinions…
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 2nd, 2012
12:33 pm
Speedy Recovery Big Ray.
Unca' Bob
October 2nd, 2012
12:39 pm
Big Ray,
You’ll be out of there soon. We all know you’re”too ligit to quit.” lol
Screen Pass
October 2nd, 2012
12:40 pm
“I wish I had some wings right now. Maybe some honey bbq ones from Pizza Hut. But I can’t eat anything right now. Sitting in a hospital room “eating” through an IV line. It sucks” – BR
Sending a blender and Pizza Hut to your nurse as we speak. Good write up on why Turner doesn’t fit instead of assuming like everyone else that means he just sucks. Hope you get well soon so we can start on the nekkid coed Bolivian skiing team jokes.
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
12:41 pm
Somebody
I love AB and what he’s done for the Falcons, but his @$$ needs to stay in the booth till the game is over.
I am only guessing… but the look AB gave Smith was probably due to the poor O-line play. Lol
Screen Pass
October 2nd, 2012
12:47 pm
“I don’t know exactly what was going on between A. Blank, Smith…but it wasn’t nice. Did any of you see the look A. Blank gave Smitty? I agree with SW, I’ll stay tuned in as well…see whats up with this deal.” – Somebody
My reliable bearded sources told me A. Blank gave Smitty an order to take care of the Dbag that A-stomped his field. Smitty, not being the hippest of cats, mistook what was implied and thus the incident with RH.
Wabe
October 2nd, 2012
12:50 pm
Nolan used some blitz packages. And you’re right, we did get burned on that one play where Cam ran right passed the blitz. That’s the threat of sending heat and playing man on the backside. If we don’t stay in our lanes, Cam burns us.
I think this week, we failed to really play our gaps and running lanes. Even when blitzing, they failed to really clog up any running lanes that could open for Cam. I agree that overall, we didn’t do a good job of containing Cam.
With that said, compared to the 1st 3 weeks, our defense seemed a bit more vanilla. Might not be true, just a personal observation.
Paddy O
October 2nd, 2012
1:05 pm
JB- I thought in the first game, perhaps 2nd, on a crossing pattern a defender hammered JJ with a helmet directly on the hand. I would not be surprised if it had been fractured. I still have faith in JJ; but am ecstatic with RW 84’s play.
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
1:06 pm
Wabe
You are correct that it was more vanilla, but it has to be done versus a run heavy offense. I just didn’t think is was BVG worthy. BVG has a tendency to not blitz at all. I still think our line needs to do better(tackles) of stuffing the middle. It seemed Cam had the parting of the Red Sea on some plays.
Paddy O
October 2nd, 2012
1:09 pm
dhunt – you can’t blame Ryan on JJ stepping out of bounds – JJ had plenty of time to either drag or toe tap that ball. Remember, JJ is still pretty much a rookie – missed 5 games last year and NO off season practice. But, I also agree – on a number of passes, Ryan was a wee bit behind JJ.
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
1:16 pm
We need to remember its only the 4th game of the season. JJ will get his.
Let’s put things into perspective. We have a new OC and DC. It takes months, even a full season to get players fully aware of their new schemes and play books. Technically, this was supposed to be a transition year–the rebuild part two(like Seminole has stated). That’s why I predicted 11-5. We are fortunate to have a sponge called Matt Ryan to learn quickly and Sean Weatherspoon the hyped leader to make these new systems easier in transition. Let’s just remember that these plays might be the tip of the iceberg. I think more exotic plays will come throughout the season.
Want to know why I feel like that? The game versus Denver. Remember the articles and fans questing the D versus KC? And then all of a sudden… boom, he confused Peyton Manning with the disguised blitzes/formations.
I am confident that Mike Nolan and Dirk has more up their sleeves. Let’s see how they adjust to RG3.
Paddy O
October 2nd, 2012
1:20 pm
Big Lou – that might be. Could be AB was wondering why we are not playing our 2 O line draftees from 2012. For those saying our D was NOT stellar – we were the first team in 152 games to prevent SD from scoring a TD. THAT IS STELLAR.
Paddy O
October 2nd, 2012
1:24 pm
I think we should all be happy with our ‘vertical passing” attack – 2 long bombs completed, a 3rd that the WR should have made a completion on and finished the game. Not only that, but a sweet screen to Turner that Turner chugged into the endzone with. This should give defenses EVEN MORE things to contemplate. I also think Big Lou’s new coordinator comments are pertinent. Our team is still learning the system wrinkles. I’d score our first quarter of the 2012 regular season: A+++.
Paddy O
October 2nd, 2012
1:26 pm
plus, the closeness of the Carolina game should prevent team complacency.
LRD
October 2nd, 2012
1:28 pm
FFL Alert… The Owls comeback from major deficit to pull it off… Thank you Tony Romo for stinking up the field last night!!!
And now JJ… coming for ya… little side wager maybe? HA
Coop
October 2nd, 2012
1:40 pm
Whatup Cage!
First and foremost, speedy recovery Big Ray. Sending prayers from Texas brother!
Some quick and random thoughts:
1. Hamad – Some folks picked us to be 4-0… I actually picked us to go 6-0 to start. I was not alone. That said, I’m not sure how much I beleived my prediction.
2. The OL looked horrible. Credit them for getting it done the last play, but there were 8 of them blocking. Look, if we have to bring Mike Johnson in to play TE (and not well I might add) to assist Clabo… MAYBE WE NEED A NEW SOLUTION AT RT. I was never in favor of keeping Clabo. I don’t know if Reynolds or even Holmes can play RT… But I do know that Clabo simply can’t. How many sacks is this man gonna give up? He’s not the only issue on the OL, but that is d@mn sure where I’d start.
3. Defending the run is officially a concern. I don’t want to be a knee”jerk”, but I did mention before the game that it was my biggest concern on the D. Dent has a long ways to go and maybe he’ll get there, but we got up two scores and the Panthers should others not to abandon the run. The Giants, Iggles, Bucs, and others could exploit that on us if we don’t figure it out. Ilike the idea of Beerman playing MLB, though I don’t want to give up on Dent.
4. Vance Walker deserves more playing time. Also, if we’re gonna be chasing a mobile QB all day, put Sidbury on the field. Cam is big enough to run over players fast enough to keep up with him. I think Sid could catch him and NOT get run over. Maybe he got some snaps I didn’t see, but Sid has become the project we either can’t develop or don’t know how to use.
5. Matt is a stone cold assassins. However, that was not his best game ever. Not worried. Everybody has off days and I expect Ryan will be sharper. Even on an “off” day, he was pretty awesome. Credit pass rush and hard D play, but Ryan missed some tosses as well.
6. Harry Douglas – You are an alum of my great alma mater, Jonesboro Senior High School. I have defended you, cheered you, and begged our offense to use you more. But if you can’t catch the d@mn ball, then you gotta go. Listen, you are behind RW, JJ, TG, and MT as options on this team. So when the ball comes your way, you CAN NOT DROPPED IT! You simply don’t have that luxury. Wide @ss open my man. I love you, but you gotta make defenses pay for doubling JJ and RW.
7. On to Smitty. I missed the AB interaction. Can anyone give some details on what happened? As for coaching, there was a drive early in the 4th where I thought we were seeing some Smittyball. Remember when Turner broke off the long run and got us to midfield? Then we followed with Quizz for a short gain. Quizz for a short gain, then Ryan scrambling out of bounds for a sack. I thought to myself, Smitty just had two successful MT runs, got to midfield, and now is trying to run the clok with over 11 minutes left. Putting MR2 in 3rd and long lead to a sack and now we’re out of FG range. I stewed on that drive for a long time. We didn’t play Smitty ball the whole game, but that drive was aggravating. We had already been up 2 scores and lost the lead, Smitty has to know he’s in a potential shootout. 11 minutes left is no time for the 4 minute offense.
8. Finally, I am very pleased with where we are. Not our best effort individually or as a unit. Players and coaches all had areas to work on. This is to be expected. What I’m thrilled about is the FIRE I saw and the determination to never give up. Love the emotion from Smitty and Ryan at the end of the game.
We argued about Smittyball and I’m not trying to rehash what games mean or don’t mean about the playoffs. But to answe UB’s question, in my opinion this team is light-years better than last year. There is a feeling or a swagger that I haven’t seen… maybe ever with them. Ryan is just oozing confidence. This season feels different to me. The team plays like it can dominate anyone on both sides of the ball when they are all on their game. and when they aren’t, they can still compete at a high level.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 2nd, 2012
1:59 pm
Struggling Economy, lot of people on the unemployment lines…add Owens and Franks to the unemployed roles. McClain is making the best of his chances, Smitty said it’s a competition for that nickle position.I might add…McClain would’ve had an INT if Babs hadn’t knocked down one of Cam Neutered, I mean Newton passes.
McClain could possibly be our next Brent Grimes.
snacktastic
October 2nd, 2012
2:22 pm
I think that with our defensive schemes, it mostly won’t matter who is on the field in the secondary. We’ve seen that we have safeties who can get picks, and corners who can (some of the time) make tackles. The D line stopping the run is what I’m most worried about, as it could leave us vulnerable to teams like the Eagles and Saints if they right the ship.
I feel better about Quizz returning punts than I do about Franks, though. Maybe Franks will start to perform better on special teams later on, but I’m skeptical at this point.
LRD
October 2nd, 2012
2:51 pm
Why not put HD back there to return punts? If we are not going to fully utilize him on O, may as well utilize him on Spec Teams…
JB Falcon
October 2nd, 2012
3:08 pm
“After further review’, as they say, turns out MS making the “4th” time-out call on the last play of the game was quite ingenious. After seeing only 10 men on the field, and knowing we didn’t have another time-out, he called one anyway. The ref should not have blown the whistle and there is no rule, in this case, that makes it illegal for us to call a time-out. It did, however, give us enough time to get another man on the field.
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
4:38 pm
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000068680/article/matt-ryan-shows-complete-control-in-atlanta-falcons-comeback
MVP MVP MVP!
Big Lou
October 2nd, 2012
4:41 pm
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap1000000068437/Coaches-Show-Is-Matt-Ryan-elite
More video on Matt Ryan.
Whiznot
October 2nd, 2012
4:49 pm
We almost lost against the Panthers because Jacquizz Rogers can’t gain a yard. When Turner left the game and Rogers came in there was no running came. The coaches need to accept that drafting Rogers was a huge mistake. The only similarity between Rogers and Sproles is size. I get angry every time Rogers carries the ball.
D3
October 2nd, 2012
5:09 pm
YO CAGE FAM!
New post is up, but rather than start a whole new thread, I just added and changed this one. Refresh, head up to the top, and read away. Be back later……..
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-fans/2012/10/01/atlanta-falcons-your-thoughts-on-falcons-escape-vs-panthers/
JJ
October 2nd, 2012
5:26 pm
Big Ray, speedy recovery my friend.
LRD, heading back up to maggie valley sat. to sit on the mtn top and refocus my team after our masacre from BT last weekend. As our buddy SW has told me many times, you only have to get
into the dance to make your run. Ill be bringin ya some smack (know your expecting it) but still lickin my wounds from last weekend. Dont worry, war eagles will be ready…or ill be skydiving off maqggie!!!
snacktastic
October 2nd, 2012
5:30 pm
Solid points, D3. I’d rather not have any more games like that one, but it’s hard to complain when they don’t play their best and still grab the win. The deep passes and improved running game were the highlights. If Turner stays as efficient as he has the past two games, our offense will really start to break games open.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm
What we have in Atlanta, for the first time in Atlanta Falcon history, is a winning formula. A winning formula is varies by different teams. Chicago’s is Defense, and no matter how they try to upgrade the rest of the game, it is Defense for them…NY, it is their pass rush and running game, even when they had the worst rushing offense in the NFL last year, they were able to rush it to anoher title. The fastest show on Turf was some crazy passing game. All winning teams have it, and as Mike Martz learned is not always the scheme, it is the players.
Our winning formula includes, Turner, White, and most of all Ice. For all our excitement and curiosity about Quiz, JJ, etc, we already have proven commodities… And as we can attest from 35 years of never having a winning formula, they are not easy to come by. Part of a winning forumla is winning games you “should lose”. Embrace it.
Finally, after what we did this past week, don’t tell me Matt Ryan cannot win a playoff game, that our “winning formula” cannot win in the playoffs by doing what we do best. The reality is, up until now, Ryans been outplayed by the opposing QB in the playoffs. It was Rogers going crazy in 10, it was Warner finding the open reciever in 09, and last year, we were a team with coordinators out the door and a team not prepared to play.
Ryan can be Warner, he can be Rogers, he can be Eli, just because he has not yet done it in the playoffs does not mean he can’t. It just means he has not yet, but scheme has nothing to do with is. He showed that he can work magic.
My point? All the regular season is about is getting to the playoffs, it is not about “proving” anything…Smitty ball? It is our winning
formula.
Why do I bring this up? Because we have thrown 2 red zone picks in the past 2 weeks by NOT executing our winning formula. And I am OK with that, maybe it will pay dividends as teams see us getting away from our tendencies, but sometime we all just need to be careful what we wish for.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm
And has Turner showed, he has not lost one step. He is just a diesel, he always has been. If you get him in the secondary, he still has it. The “book” on Atlanta has been stop turner, stop the falcons, and make Matty beat you. To this day, it has worked, but it won’t work forever, Matty Ice is going to have to take this team on his shoulders to win in the playoffs like all great QBs do. But I believe he is ready for the next step.
darrell starks
October 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm
D3, Im starting to like the idea of Kroy playing OLB and moving Spoon to MLB.
Dent so far have look horrible at LB, i no it’s still only 4games but he must tighten up and do better.
NICHOLAS, SPOON, KROY might be the right choice.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
October 2nd, 2012
7:06 pm
Falcons played a great game, i enjoyed it.
Great win.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
October 2nd, 2012
7:08 pm
Clabo continue to play lazy with no fire.
Every since Dahl left he have lost his nasty aggressive.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!
JJ
October 2nd, 2012
7:33 pm
LRD, who can I block for ya chandler or olsen???
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
7:53 pm
Whiz, Quizz needs to ball in space, he looked very good on screen passes. But he ain’t a guy you line up in the backfield to pound out a time killing, game clinching, will breaking drive.
DePlane
October 2nd, 2012
8:00 pm
Big Ray, our thoughts and prayers are with you our stalwart trooper. Hang in there…and keep playing with the nurses…hopefully ya got a looker or two!
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
8:02 pm
Falcon Carolina replay on NFL Network.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
8:23 pm
Unca, are we legit? Good question, I think we are as legit as we have been the past 4 years, although Ryan is playing much better. His QBR leads the nfl after 4 games, so that is about as legit as you can be after 4 week.
Wabe, we did blitz last week, we were actually in a full all out blitz when Carolina scored the go ahead TD in the 4th quarter with that little quick out, that is why there was nobody to tackle, we had 8 in th backfield. Just as I said last week, teams will go with quick passes to beat our blitz as what Nolan is doing gets on tape.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
8:40 pm
Watching this game again…I am really glad we got Abe signed.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
8:44 pm
You see Matty on the sideline slapping hands with the linemen saying “good block, good block, you no so much, haha” I could not see who he said that to, but is must be clabo…
JB FALCON
October 2nd, 2012
8:49 pm
Big Ray. you are in one of my most un-favorite places but I admire the fact that you took it upon yourself to be there. You’d be surpised how many young folk, as I once was, think they are bullet proof. Trust me, my friend, UB, KS and others in the cage can tell you that you are laying the pavement for the road that you will travel. You are a smart man, as you have proved here in the cage.
Take care of yourself and make sure that gown is closed in the back before you walk down the hallway. No one wants a BBASO!
JB FALCON
October 2nd, 2012
8:54 pm
MB, 8:44, yeah, right.
falcon21
October 2nd, 2012
9:19 pm
JJ had plenty of room to get his feet in.
Coop
October 2nd, 2012
9:25 pm
Big Ray – Don’t listen to JB Falcon… Wear TWO gowns. One in the front and one in the back. Keep it in the holster big man! Seriously, still recovering from my surgery and it’s been 5 weeks. Hang in there brother.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
9:28 pm
JB, I am not making it up…NFL network showing replay of the Falcon game, it shows a little sideline footage. It was about midway through the game. I was not paying too much attention for I was not expecting it, but matty comes in high fiving guys on the bench, and I am not 100% he says “nice block”, but I think he did….I can’t even say for sure that they are even linemen, BUT, I KNOW he says to someone, “not so much”, and chuckles….Somebody watch for it and validate it, I am sure it will play again.
Coop
October 2nd, 2012
9:31 pm
Falcon21 – Agree, but I’m not hating on JJ for NOT making a miracle catch. I can get mad at HD and Turner for dropping wide open passes, but not for failing to tip toe or drag a foot. Steve Smith failed to get two feet in once too.
Greg Mendel
October 2nd, 2012
9:39 pm
Big Ray, I feel for you. Hospitals are miserable, even for a day, and I’ve spent more days in them than I care to recall. The right place, if you’re sick, but miserable nonetheless. Can never get any sleep. It helps to have a loved one near to remind the staff you’re there.
And there aren’t many cute nurses anymore. Just as well. The cute ones are rookies engaged to a doctor, which makes them dangerous.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
9:40 pm
JJ’s big toe was out, but the pass led him there….It is much easer to know there the line is went you are running directly toward the line and can measure you steps, than it is when you are running parallel to the line, and the pass pulls you toward the line while you head it turned backward and have to adjust to the ball…It was Ryans fault as much as JJ,for had ryan led him toward the middle, it would have been a TD.
Coop
October 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm
So every time Matty throws a pick, it means we should have run the ball to the diesel, I havent lost a step, Turner? Ugh. That’s just ridiculous. Turner has lost a step. I made a sandwich and washed the car waiting for him to get to the end zone on that screen. Matty made a bad decision/throw. Doesn’t make the philosophy wrong.
BTW, Cam fumbled playing Smittyball.
Seriously? It’s stale dude.
falcon21
October 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm
Coop, I’m not hating on him at all, he is gonna be one of the best in the NFL. Field awareness will come with time. MB, I did see that and I think he said “you not so much” but not sure who he was talking to.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
9:42 pm
Also, I posted my 8:44 post just as Ryan made his “you no so much” statement. The NFL coverage stared at 8:30, so he says that toward the beginning of the broadcast.
JB FALCON
October 2nd, 2012
9:43 pm
Coop, great idea on the two gowns. Was there in ‘08 and hated it, butt stickin’ out and all, but, now? I’m glad I went. Was suposed to get out in tow days, spent seven, three in ICU. No matter whatever you have achieved in life, the older you get the more you realize that, without your health, you have nothing. Don’t get me wrong, I’m good, but laying in there and thinking about the things that could happen makes you glad you did what BR is doing.
Just to keep this on the reason for the cage, the Falcons are fixin’ to be released on the rest of the NFL!
Wabe
October 2nd, 2012
9:44 pm
MB,
I’m not saying we didn’t blitz, or blitz enough. All I said was that we seemed somewhat reactive on Sunday. It didn’t feel as though we came into that game with a real idea about how we wanted to approach the Panthers offense. Again, that may not be the case, it may not be the vibe you got. But, me personally, it felt at times that they were just throwing different things against the wall to see what would stick. They weren’t 100% sure how to play this offense
Also, in terms of blitzing, when we get after QB’s who aren’t as mobile and who are a threat to beat us in the passing game, the object of the blitz should be to get that pressure on the QB, disrupt his timing and rhythm, and if possible, get him on the ground. With Cam, the threat of him beating us through the air isn’t the same as established guys in this league like a Manning or a Rivers. Thus, when we blitzed on Sunday, I think it should’ve been a point of emphasis to simply get the ‘perception of pressure’ on Cam rather than running at him full speed – losing contain – and allowing him to run right past our blitz. What I mean by the ‘perception of pressure’ is, get him seeing guys coming to make him get that ball out of his hands, while playing the running lanes. The object shouldn’t necessarily be to get him on the ground, rather to disrupt him enough to keep him out of sync in the passing game. If we have a shot to bring him down, fine. But, we shouldn’t be running at him with the sole purpose of bringing him down, because this approach led to the guys simply failing to play their gaps.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
9:46 pm
21, I am not 100% sure either, it was quick and I did not expect it. But there were a couple players sitting on the bench, he was high fiving saying something…I THINK it was “good block” but I am about 60% sure. ….I am going to have to watch it again.
Greg Mendel
October 2nd, 2012
9:49 pm
On the JJ thing: I still contend that Julio wanted to catch the ball and run. That was what was in his mind. He tried to do just that, and ran, off-balance, out-of-bounds again.
Yes, he could/should have stuttered his steps (maybe) for a completion. But he wanted to make the most of his catch. That’s why I like him. Just making the catch isn’t enough.
Coop
October 2nd, 2012
9:51 pm
So, when Matt throws an INT, it means we should have run it with the diesel who hasn’t lost a step?
Ugh… Ridiculous. I made a sandwich and washed the car waiting for Turner to get to the end zone on that screen. And, Matt made a poor decision and bad throw. It doesn’t mean the philosophy is bad.
BTW, Cam fumbled playing Smittyball. Seriously dude, it’s stale.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
9:51 pm
Wabe, I just watched the game again, and you are right in they seemed to be conscience of keeping contain, but they did pressure him pretty good. They sacked him a few times, and one key play they had him runnng backward ala MV7, he dumped it for a INC, but it was a good play.
Also, we swatted the ball out of his hand on another play that could hvae been huge before they scored the go ahead TD, but the TE Hartzog (former Falcon) recovered it, so it did not show up the stat sheet. But we could not tee off like on Cassel and Manning without fear of them running, and Cam did make a good read on the one blitz…or it was just the right call.
JB FALCON
October 2nd, 2012
9:55 pm
MB & 21, I.m sure MR was not complimenting Clabo on his pass protection and there was no way JJ could have stayed in bounds and caught that pass. That was on MR, just as 3.5 of the the sacks were, he held the ball too long.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
9:59 pm
Watching Washington, RG presents a different issue in that he runs the QB draw up the guy, where Cam run more of an option. Really, the draw like RG runs it will present problems, RG depends on quickness, Cam relies on deception and power. Our tackles are really going ot have to practice gap control as oppose to focusing on penetration.
falcon21
October 2nd, 2012
10:02 pm
JB, I guess you have never played WR. If he would have been aware of where he was he could have got his feet down with ease. If you could ask him I bet he would tell you the same thing. It is what it is though, we still got the win!
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
10:05 pm
JB, I can’t say for sure what the meaning was ,I was not watching for it. It was loose sideline banter with what looked like the O line sitting together, but when he said “you, no so much”, I was like WHAT? I am sure the game will play a few more times this week, cagers gonna have to look out for it and report back.
Wabe
October 2nd, 2012
10:09 pm
These games are a good tool though to actually tune up our run defense…
Rather than making our sole focus pass defense, we were and will be really focused on gap discipline in back to back weeks. Should help this unit grow a bit more in that department.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
10:10 pm
IDK 21, he was out by a quarter inch, his pinkie toe. Sure he knew he was close, but he also had his head turned around backward, adjusting to the ball. It is not like dragging your feet, I put it on Ryan, no reason to put the ball there, JJ had the guy beat by 2 steps, no reason for that ball to be near the sideline…But even so, it was so close on not a “great” throw…just one of those things….but another huge play that did not show up was when we swatted the ball out or Cams hand and did not recover.
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
10:12 pm
Really, going through the NFC east is going to be tough…2-2 would be ok to be honest. 3-1, awesome…4-0….would love it.
JB FALCON
October 2nd, 2012
10:15 pm
21, I have to agree but I’m still a little down on MR, inspite of his stats, for holding the ball too long.
MB, Clabo was responsible for the 3.5 sacks he was bulldozed and the rest were on MR.
falcon21
October 2nd, 2012
10:23 pm
Agree that the throw could and should have been better MB but I still think he could have gotten his feet down with ease. As someone else said, JJ is still not much more than a rook but I still bet he would tell us he should have got his feet down. It ain’t no thang, we won.
Screen Pass
October 2nd, 2012
10:26 pm
“21, I have to agree but I’m still a little down on MR, inspite of his stats, for holding the ball too long. ” – JB Falcon
You should prolly watch a replay of the game. The “holding on to the ball too long” and blaming M. Ryan for the JJ toe being an inch out of bounds is pure silliness. Even the last sack where people are saying he should have thrown it away clearly shows CJ nailing him as he is trying to do just that. People complaining about individual throws should go watch Romo’s game from last night and thank god we have Ryan instead.
JB FALCON
October 2nd, 2012
10:30 pm
It’s all good! WE WON! Gotta bring RGIII down next week. I’m out.
falcon21
October 2nd, 2012
10:33 pm
JB, I get your point but I’m not going to get down on MR, he has played well for us. He is just trying to make plays Yep, he should have thrown a couple away but he is a fighter, dude wants to win. It’s all good.
3.5 sacks or 7 sacks is still too many.
JB FALCON
October 2nd, 2012
10:33 pm
SP, Romo campared to Ryan! Come on man! No way. “night!
Matty Bicep
October 2nd, 2012
10:45 pm
Later all, but man, Ryan is leading the league in QBR, he is freaking the MVP through 4 games, he went from not being considered a “top 100″ player to the #2 spot, and debatable #1…You guys are a tough crowd…
But watch the game again on NFL…There is holding the ball too long because you are lost, and there is holding the ball going through progressions or you wait for your guy to come open.
One play that changed my perspective was where he got pushed out of bounds on the 3rd and 3. He rolls out, sorta has a guy open, but has to loft it over several kitties heads….you could see him thinking, I can drop it in there….ahh, maybe not such a good idea, then WHAM. In that case, the sack was better than the pick…but like 21 said, we won.
falcon21
October 2nd, 2012
10:50 pm
Later MB, SP and JB.
Screen Pass
October 2nd, 2012
10:59 pm
“But watch the game again on NFL…There is holding the ball too long because you are lost, and there is holding the ball going through progressions or you wait for your guy to come open. ” – MB
I did. The last sack on that stupid roll-out call is the only play someone might have a point and if you watch closely both receivers are double covered and CJ is on that naked bootleg instantly. Ryan has to burst his speed towards the sideline to not get killed immediately and when he is turning his body and starting his throw CJ nails him. Unless he bailed on the play from the instant he started the rollout he had no real chance. When you factor in it’s 3rd and 3, you know do or die, his decision to try and extend to hope something opens up is understandable. The playcall to naked bootleg against CJ on a crucial 3rd down is just plain dumb and that on Koetter…not just for calling it but for not ripping that useless play out our playbook the day he got here lol.
Other than that rollout Ryan is getting hit before and as he plants..at least twice he somehow saved fumbles from the balls being hit in his wind up motion.
Screen Pass
October 2nd, 2012
11:05 pm
“SP, Romo campared to Ryan! Come on man! No way. “night!” – JB
Not bashing…just pointing out that things could be much worse. I haven’t watched alot of Romo/ Cowgirl games and have always wondered why a guy with pretty good stats always is getting called out. Boy did I find out last night..that was pathetic.
Big Lou
October 3rd, 2012
1:33 am
So wait, how can you blame Matt Ryan on the ball placement when Julio turned his body for no reason? The ball would have landed in his hands if he just looked over his shoulder. Julio had plenty of space to make the completion. It’s silly to put that on Ryan, honestly. I counted at least three plays where the receivers screwed up catches.
As for holding on the ball too long, I only saw one play. The rest was just the collapsing of the Oline/great bump coverage by Carolina.
There is a reason why he is considered a MVP this season.
I concede the errors on the redone play, but if roddy caught the quick slant before hand, it would have been a touchdown anyways.
I am starting to smell something fishy…
Big Lou
October 3rd, 2012
1:34 am
SP
It’s not only on Romo, though. That whole offensive side of the ball sucks!
D3
October 3rd, 2012
6:09 am
Good Morning Cage Fam! — Will be back a little later to discuss the game, but wanted to address something that SW brought up yesterday.
The Falcons and Blank are evidently eyeing Personal Seat Licences, essentially having to pay extra money (in the thousands) just to get the chance to buy the tickets. They may have that luxury in the NE with the Giants and Jets, and the Cowboys, but there is NO college football competition like there is here. I can tell you that as a middle-class family, it’s all I can do to keep affording the tickets as they are now, considering wage cuts, healthcare expenses rising, furloughs, and many are struggling just to find a job considering the pi$$ poor economy.
Just saw a poll that the AJC conducted and 88% of respondents said NO they would not pay a PSL to buy tickets. SW has been right there all along on this one. There’s simply no need for a new stadium right now, especially when you’re about to price out the majority of people who can barely afford tix as is. There’s nothing wrong with the Dome. I’ve always said that, sure, way down the road, we could use a new stadium, but there’s no need for the rush (they’re trying to get it done and built for them to be playing there by 2017). And anytime it’s rushed and not well-planned out, you’re going to have issues. We don’t want another Turner Field, where it’s a stadium in a parking lot. If it’s done right it could be a huge boom for that area of Atlanta and act as a catalyst for rebirth on that side. But if it’s rushed, it could cause more harm than good.
Blank’s going to have a beautiful new stadium with no one in it to see the games.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/seat-licenses-eyed-for-falcons-stadium/nSQ5p/
John Waynesworld
October 3rd, 2012
8:13 am
D3, you are absolutely right. Atlanta fans will not “sit” for this PSL crap and will simply NOT buy even more tickets than they DON’T buy now. It seems that the powers to be don’t really care who buys these tickets (Philly fans, Cowboys fans, Bears fans, etc) as long as THEY SELL THEIR PSLs to the exceptional class. These planners just don’t get it, like you said, D3, about the economy at all. The rich continually astound me in their thinking that NORMAL working people can afford this 100% LUXURY TAX on season tickets that some folks have to scrimp and save all year just to hang onto. A real shame and a bad decision, if they follow through on the PSL threat, however I am sure they are banking on the fact that the Coke, Suntrust and Home Depot executives can still afford their HUGE blocks of corporate seats THAT THEY NEVER SIT IN. We will have a far more empty Falcons’ stadium than has ever been seen before, and if the league continues its blackout policy, we may never see a regular season home game (without the NFL ticket on our cable bill) again.
If they continue this Falcons stadium hijacking, I may just buy an even BIGGER HDTV to stay home for all NFL games, and for my stadium viewing pleasure I may invest in a different season ticket…
http://www.lfl360.com/articles/lfl360-com-breaking-news-lingerie-football-league-announces-2013-expansion-atlanta/
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
8:38 am
Thanks for the thoughts, guys.
I have to go back in for surgery again this afternoon due to lack of proper progress from the first procedure.
Translation – they thought the band they gave me was big enough, but it ain’t. So now I get a bigger one. It was either do it now while it’s still a very easy fix, or wait two weeks (with nothing but liquids in my diet…sorry, no whiskey or beer) and then see if it got better. By then, the repeat procedure would be more difficult and risky.
Needless to say, the doc and I agreed on option A. So back under the knife I go.
Again, thanks for the thoughts. I hope to be back up and running in the morning, but will take the time to hang out and throw my two pennies on the current subjects.
Y’all are such a great group to chat with.
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
9:03 am
The comments on Ryan-to-Julio pass are perplexing to me.
Come on, man…even the announcers said Julio did not turn his head in time, and did not drag his foot like he should have. We saw Roddy do exactly what should have been done (drag the toe) TWICE in the last two games.
Sorry, but that was on Julio. The pass led him there? Yeah, it was supposed to lead him to the sideline, and it was supposed to be out of reach of the defense. It’s on the WR to complete the play.
And like I said before….Julio is a 2nd year man learning to do all these things coming from a run-dominated college program. He has to learn, he will learn, that’s all there is to it.
I agree with SP on the rollout pass play that got Ryan nailed. It wasn’t a good play. I dont’ know if it’s a bad play all the time, but it was a mistake by Koetter in THIS game. Why? Because it was clear Charles Johnson and the Carolina front 4 overall was having a break-out game. You don’t roll out with a less than fleet QB against a front 4 that is playing that way.
As for the OL woes, those problems are almost exclusively on the the right side of the line….and they surround Tyson Clabo, who should have never even been an honorable mention for a pro bowl slot. Period.
Clabo has been unmasked. He NEEDS a stalwart Guard next to him or he fails. Reynolds is adequate, no more. He may be considered moderately solid, but that’s on a good day. Since Dahl left, Clabo has proven to be considerably less than what we paid for. It’s really that simple. The only way to get better play out of him is to bring in a stronger guard. The CS may see Konz as that guy in time, but right now is NOT that time apparently, so against good/versatile Defensive lines, we are going to have problems.
The problem could not have been more obvious when they had to bring in Mike Johnson as a tight end to help.
THAT is re-goddern-diculous….and I am very PISSED about it. Now there are two ways to view this, if you ask me.
One is that we watched a very good, even Pro Bowl level DE finally have his day after having nothing in the first three games. Or we can see this as pure, unadulterated exposure of our right side of the line, centering mainly on Clabo. Reynolds had his job to do, and couldn’t be drafted away to help.
AGain, the fact that Johnson was brought in as extra pass protection is just insane. I could see if we were running a power running play. But we weren’t. Enough is enough.
Now…cooling down on the point, perhaps we should see what happens against Washington before completely blowing our collective stacks. Perhaps the CS sees it that way too. The Redskins will not have Brian Orakpo, and I think one of their top DBs will be out as well (Merriweather?). Maybe it was more aberration than outright failure.
But I maintain that Clabo is a problem, and that’s insane because he was/is a veteran and well paid incumbent starter. Need a shakeup, I’m thinking. Maybe move him inside and Reynolds outside as SW suggests. But I do have a problem with this – if the fix is that “easy”, then it should have been obvious from the start what position these guys should be playing.
I wanted Konz to supplant Reynolds or McClure and Holmes to do the same with Baker, in the beginning. Now I’m wishing Holmes was up to speed enough to take Clabo’s spot and that Konz could play RG. I am now thinking either Konz breaks into the starting lineup or we won’t be seeing him do that until next season.
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
9:04 am
D3 ,
Blog monster just ate a massive post. I have not the wherewithall to repost that stream of consicousness…
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
9:04 am
FRAKKIN’ BLOG MONSTER !!!!!! Fie upon thee!!
Matty Bicep
October 3rd, 2012
9:23 am
BL, thought Ryan played a great game, i did not study the pass play, it was just my impression that the ball let him to the sideline, I would have to review before I would reach agree to disagree statue…I was not ready to put the sacks all on Ryan, just seemed that CJ ate up Clabo all day. We just were not crisp, but we have had a long few weeks.
Matty Bicep
October 3rd, 2012
9:29 am
Also, after reviewing the game last night we had:
The JJ play where he stepped out.
The Babs forced fumble that Carolina recovered just before Cam tossed the TD pass.
My point? We beat them deep but did not execute, and forced a Cam fumble that did not bounce our way. So our improbably comeback was not all that improbable, we were that close to making several game changing plays, but we kept coming up snake eyes….until…we refused to be denied. Carolina needed their own luck to escape with a W.
Coop
October 3rd, 2012
9:45 am
Prayers and best wishes to Big Ray! Best of luck and a hopeful successful surgery.
Coop
October 3rd, 2012
9:52 am
I tried to post this a couple ties last night and couldn’t get it through so I’ll try again. Might be slightly dated.
So, let me see if I understand the logic… Matt Ryan threw and interception in the end zone and that is the justification fr smittyball??? So nobody has ever fumbled on the goal line? Look, Ryan made a poor decision and poor throw and it got picked. That outcome doesn’t make the aggressive philosophy the wrong call.
Conversely, running quizz up the middle twice, then rolling Matt out (always a stupid play going back to MM) when you’re at the 50 is smittyball and cost us a chance at a FG.
Cam fumbled on 3rd and 1 with Rivera playing smittyball.
The point is, bad things can happen when oyu play conservative just like when you play aggressively. But I’ll take the latter. I don’t want my team playing not to lose.
Overall, I think we played and coached aggressively other than that one drive. But cherry picking a redzone INT to justify smittyball is ridiculous and stale.
Coop
October 3rd, 2012
9:53 am
D3 – Can you check the blog monster?
Big Lou
October 3rd, 2012
10:11 am
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/10/02/julio-jones-hand-still-not-100-percent/
JJ was not 100 percent on the game, as noted from a couple of bloggers. Expect him to have a big game versus Washington.
D3
October 3rd, 2012
10:27 am
BR, Coop — Posts are out.
Michael
October 3rd, 2012
10:35 am
I wouldn’t get too carried away. This game showed ATL is a team that knows how to win when their back is against the wall. Dent’s play leaves much to be desired. However, as Mike Nolan stated earlier in the week, playing against a QB who can throw for 300 yds and run for 100 yds presents a problem because instead of 11 defenders against 10 offensive players, it’s more 11 on 11.
This game had “trap” all over it and ATL passed the test. Yes, they still have work to do on the offensive line (we knew that already) but its not time to panic. Clabo, like Baker last yr, may be injured but Mike Smith is keeping mum on it. He has been very reliable so I’m not quite ready to throw him under the bus yet.
Like D3, I would prefer to see Nicholas at MLB and Biermann at OLB on the same side as Abraham rushing the passer. But I said that when they first hired Nolan that it would be wise to use Kroy much like the old Steelers used Kevin Greene as an OLB pass rushing specialist.
I also think they need to seriously get Harry Douglas more involved and be very intentional about getting him the ball more. We are seeing Gonzo get open more often because of the over the top coverage rolling to Roddy and Julio. Now they need to make defenses account for Douglas’s speed as well thereby forcing them to decide who to double.
In the end, I think they will win 12 to 13 games and get either a first round bye or home field throughout the playoffs. And hopefully this will be the year they seize on that position and at least get to the NFC championship game.
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
10:35 am
I would retype the last post, but I honestly cannot remember all that I said. But I had to get it out of my system.
Moving along…..
I’m with Big Lou ….JJ will likely have a big game against Washington. Consider a few things, speaking of the Redskins:
1) Brian Orakpo out for the season, so we don’t have to contend with him. At least I thought I remember reading that somewhere. Drugs have my brain somewhat addled.
2) I think Brandon Merriweather is out, too. So no dealing with him in the secondary.
How we fare against the Washington offense is a different story. There is the threat of RG III’s arm AND his legs, but here’s the other issue – Redskins are leading the league in rushing right now, just ahead of Kansas City. Problem is that while we stopped Matt Cassel in the 2nd half of the KC game, RG III has more talent.
Still, he’s a rookie and Nolan will have some schemes worked up for him. It’s on our guys to execute, though. Fail to execute, and Washington will carve us up, it will be another shootout. One we stand a chance of losing.
The key will be keeping RG III from making plays.
Washington’s offense is clearly powerful. Their defense clearly isn’t up to par. They are 2-2 because they’ve lost shootouts. Both times it was the difference of a single score, basically.
So, our defense has to step up, and our offense has to maintain its scoring pace. If we do that, we win. If we falter on either side, the other side may not have enough to pick up the slack. Could be a tough game.
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
10:40 am
The comments on Ryan-to-Julio pass are perplexing to me.
Come on, man…even the announcers said Julio did not turn his head in time, and did not drag his foot like he should have. We saw Roddy do exactly what should have been done (drag the toe) TWICE in the last two games.
Sorry, but that was on Julio. The pass led him there? Yeah, it was supposed to lead him to the sideline, and it was supposed to be out of reach of the defense. It’s on the WR to complete the play.
And like I said before….Julio is a 2nd year man learning to do all these things coming from a run-dominated college program. He has to learn, he will learn, that’s all there is to it.
I agree with SP on the rollout pass play that got Ryan nailed. It wasn’t a good play. I dont’ know if it’s a bad play all the time, but it was a mistake by Koetter in THIS game. Why? Because it was clear Charles Johnson and the Carolina front 4 overall was having a break-out game. You don’t roll out with a less than fleet QB against a front 4 that is playing that way.
As for the OL woes, those problems are almost exclusively on the the right side of the line….and they surround Tyson Clabo, who should have never even been an honorable mention for a pro bowl slot. Period.
Clabo has been unmasked. He NEEDS a stalwart Guard next to him or he fails. Reynolds is adequate, no more. He may be considered moderately solid, but that’s on a good day. Since Dahl left, Clabo has proven to be considerably less than what we paid for. It’s really that simple. The only way to get better play out of him is to bring in a stronger guard. The CS may see Konz as that guy in time, but right now is NOT that time apparently, so against good/versatile Defensive lines, we are going to have problems.
The problem could not have been more obvious when they had to bring in Mike Johnson as a tight end to help.
THAT is re-goddern-diculous….and I am very PISSED about it. Now there are two ways to view this, if you ask me.
One is that we watched a very good, even Pro Bowl level DE finally have his day after having nothing in the first three games. Or we can see this as pure, unadulterated exposure of our right side of the line, centering mainly on Clabo. Reynolds had his job to do, and couldn’t be drafted away to help.
AGain, the fact that Johnson was brought in as extra pass protection is just insane. I could see if we were running a power running play. But we weren’t. Enough is enough.
Now…cooling down on the point, perhaps we should see what happens against Washington before completely blowing our collective stacks. Perhaps the CS sees it that way too. The Redskins will not have Brian Orakpo, and I think one of their top DBs will be out as well (Merriweather?). Maybe it was more aberration than outright failure.
But I maintain that Clabo is a problem, and that’s insane because he was/is a veteran and well paid incumbent starter. Need a shakeup, I’m thinking. Maybe move him inside and Reynolds outside as SW suggests. But I do have a problem with this – if the fix is that “easy”, then it should have been obvious from the start what position these guys should be playing.
I wanted Konz to supplant Reynolds or McClure and Holmes to do the same with Baker, in the beginning. Now I’m wishing Holmes was up to speed enough to take Clabo’s spot and that Konz could play RG. I am now thinking either Konz breaks into the starting lineup or we won’t be seeing him do that until next season.
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
10:42 am
The comments on Ryan-to-Julio pass are perplexing to me.
Come on, man…even the announcers said Julio did not turn his head in time, and did not drag his foot like he should have. We saw Roddy do exactly what should have been done (drag the toe) TWICE in the last two games.
Sorry, but that was on Julio. The pass led him there? Yeah, it was supposed to lead him to the sideline, and it was supposed to be out of reach of the defense. It’s on the WR to complete the play.
And like I said before….Julio is a 2nd year man learning to do all these things coming from a run-dominated college program. He has to learn, he will learn, that’s all there is to it.
I agree with SP on the rollout pass play that got Ryan nailed. It wasn’t a good play. I dont’ know if it’s a bad play all the time, but it was a mistake by Koetter in THIS game. Why? Because it was clear Charles Johnson and the Carolina front 4 overall was having a break-out game. You don’t roll out with a less than fleet QB against a front 4 that is playing that way.
As for the OL woes, those problems are almost exclusively on the the right side of the line….and they surround Tyson Clabo, who should have never even been an honorable mention for a pro bowl slot. Period.
Clabo has been unmasked. He NEEDS a stalwart Guard next to him or he fails. Reynolds is adequate, no more. He may be considered moderately solid, but that’s on a good day. Since Dahl left, Clabo has proven to be considerably less than what we paid for. It’s really that simple. The only way to get better play out of him is to bring in a stronger guard. The CS may see Konz as that guy in time, but right now is NOT that time apparently, so against good/versatile Defensive lines, we are going to have problems.
The problem could not have been more obvious when they had to bring in Mike Johnson as a tight end to help.
THAT is re-goddern-diculous….and I am very PISSED about it. Now there are two ways to view this, if you ask me.
One is that we watched a very good, even Pro Bowl level DE finally have his day after having nothing in the first three games. Or we can see this as pure, unadulterated exposure of our right side of the line, centering mainly on Clabo. Reynolds had his job to do, and couldn’t be drafted away to help.
AGain, the fact that Johnson was brought in as extra pass protection is just insane. I could see if we were running a power running play. But we weren’t. Enough is enough.
Now…cooling down on the point, perhaps we should see what happens against Washington before completely blowing our collective stacks. Perhaps the CS sees it that way too. The Redskins will not have Brian Orakpo, and I think one of their top DBs will be out as well (Merriweather?). Maybe it was more aberration than outright failure.
But I maintain that Clabo is a problem, and that’s insane because he was/is a veteran and well paid incumbent starter. Need a shakeup, I’m thinking. Maybe move him inside and Reynolds outside as SW suggests. But I do have a problem with this – if the fix is that “easy”, then it should have been obvious from the start what position these guys should be playing.
I wanted Konz to supplant Reynolds or McClure and Holmes to do the same with Baker, in the beginning. Now I’m wishing Holmes was up to speed enough to take Clabo’s spot and that Konz could play RG. I am now thinking either Konz breaks into the starting lineup or we won’t be seeing him do that until next season.
Against Washington, we have to outscore them unless the defense can limit an offense that is putting up damn near as many points per game as we are.
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
10:42 am
D3 ,
Thanks, bro’.
Chop Buster
October 3rd, 2012
10:52 am
I wouldn’t say that we “Escaped vs Panthers” because good teams find a way to win. They take advantage of the other team’s mistakes. Carolina didn’t get the first down, pinned us on our one yard line and thought they could stop us. Falcons made an aggressive play call (that we’ve been all waiting to see) and executed. Made two more plays and kicked the game winning TD. We hung in there and executing the winning drive perfectly…that’s the bottom line. I see a team and QB that are growing confident each week and believing that as long as there is time on the clock they can win.
Now for the OL, changes are needed for Clabo and McClure. It’s only going to get tougher to block against the NFC East teams who all can get after the QB. We need to try Konz (Center) and Reynolds (RT) to see how they play. McClure got blew up last year against teams up the middle and Clabo was having the same issue last season as well. Part of the OL problem was also not running at Johnson to take him out of plays. The one play Koetter called for a roll out of the pocket Ryan held the ball and was eventually shoved out of bounds. I know he wants to make a play, but you have to throw the ball away rather than take a sack.
You discussed the issues in the running game and with the OL…which I believe a real issues still on this team. What will the coaches do to negate these weaknesses? We’ll see as the season plays out. Personally, I think we’re a year or two away from really being a dominant team on both sides of the ball.
Paddy O
October 3rd, 2012
10:54 am
matty: the pass lead him there? watch HD’s last caught pass. the lack of experience by JJ is what caused the pass to be incomplete (the WR MUST know precisely where he is on the field), not the throw which was just about perfect. weird, your inability to accurately assign accountability to the culpable. As others and I have stated, we are not hating on JJ, just acknowledging his error.
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Chop Buster
October 3rd, 2012
11:02 am
Also Dave Archer said Ryan’s intercept at the goal line was on Julio–he should have cut across the face of the safety instead of running behind him. Julio’s body language has been sort of sluggish and not really running with the same effort before he injured his hand (mind may not be in the game).
Paddy O
October 3rd, 2012
11:06 am
Big Ray – I’ll be praying for your quick and full recovery – double surgery – hope they are not billing you double! Good luck!
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
11:15 am
Paddy O ,
Thanks, man.
Nah, can’t be charged double. Not within the first 90 days….so I’m safe from that.
John Waynesworld
October 3rd, 2012
11:19 am
Big Ray, I missed why you have to go under the knife, but I wish you well whatever the matter.
You know, I’m gonna go on a rant here…I was watching the NFL Network early this morning and there was a conversation between the evening host Andrew Siciliano, Charlie Casserly (who I think is hilarious and many times a voice of reason), and 2 ex-Saints Heath Evans and Darren Sharper. They were doing a very innocent discussion on “Who’s your 1st quarter (of the season) MVP?” Charley was up first and he jumped right in “Matt Ryan” he says, and proceeds to describe Matt’s accomplishments in his first 4 games as the reasons why he picked Ryan. Then it’s Sharper’s turn and he immediately jumps on Charley’s pick and says “How can you pick Ryan for an MVP when he hasn’t even won a playoff game yet in his career?” Evans chimes in and shakes his head on Charley’s pick and says “Exactly Darren, no way on Ryan. I’d vote for Manning just because.” Andrew and Charley are both taken aback by the two’s similar comments saying “Guys we’ve constantly heard this Ryan/Playoff stuff too much, but here we’re talking about the first 4 games of the season!” Yet those two still stuck to their Saints lapdog comments. Charley yells “You guys can’t work it like that. If it’s beyond the first quarter season then why are we even having this conversation?”
It was then that I realized that once a player plays for the Sain’ts, they are “assimilated” to hate the Falcons with their every breath, and don’t be fooled, no matter when Evans chips in occasionally on TV or radio about “Hey I like the Falcons”…He is LYING. All I am hoping for now is the NFL Network separate those two into different segment so they can’t double team an issue about the Falcons and make it sound like it is “the NFL pros’ consensus”. It just makes me sick listening to those Sain’ts butt-lickers irritating me with their BIAS while watching my favorite channel.
Rant over.
Chop Buster
October 3rd, 2012
11:24 am
BR, hoping for a speedy recovery and a successful surgery this time. God bless
Chop Buster
October 3rd, 2012
11:31 am
JW, that’s why I block out anything Heath Evans says and Sharper can go back and forth as well. Bringing up not winning a playoff when we’re talking about the first quarter of THIS season tells you they won’t ever pick a Falcons player for anything. I can’t wait until we play NOs this year and beat them twice. I don’t care if that they don’t have their HC.
Matty Bicep
October 3rd, 2012
11:54 am
Again, I said I would have to review the pass again before I took a solid stance, it was just my impression, and it appeared had Ryan thrown it toward the hash marks, JJ scores on the play, I am not entirely sure why JJ was anywhere near the sideline.
And it was not like JJ hideously stepped out of bounds being clueless, he was out by a pinkie toe, on a pass where he was running parallel to the sideline looking up backwards at a bomb, it was completely different than what HD did. Again,
I will try and catch the play again and look closer, so if you disagree, chill, But it is not like JJ looked like Dez Bryant.
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
12:20 pm
Review the commentator’s comments during that play while you’re at it. They are…interesting….
Big Ray
October 3rd, 2012
12:24 pm
JWW ,
You hit the nail on the head. And damn Evans and Sharper. Seriously. I get tired of that kind of crap. Like Casserly said, you’re talking about the MVP candidates for “so far into the season.”
Last I looked, NOBODY was in the playoffs right now, and there are some prominent team names that would be missing if the playoffs started tomorrow.
What morons….they have the nerve to act like the Falcons organization is a dungheap unworthy of being an NFL entity….last I looked, the Saints were the ones embroiled in controversy all the way up to their necks. What a pile of freakin’ losers.
Big Lou
October 3rd, 2012
1:00 pm
Here is my take on the Redskin’s game:
1. Redskins are last in the league in opponent’s passing yards.
2. Julio will have a great game, and so will Roddy and Gonzo.
3. Redskins are first in the league with rushing, but only 16th in passing. Expect more vanilla/man press coverage from Mike Nolan to force RG3 to beat us with his arm.
As long as our defense makes a couple of stops and prevents the Redskins from beating us on the clock game… it would be a moderately easy win. I expect a score of 34-24.
This game will really show us a couple things such as:
1. Is our running defense REALLY that bad?
2. Was the offensive line fiasco in ATL against Carolina an anomaly?
3. How far is our new coaches with their schemes offensively/defensively?
John Waynesworld
October 3rd, 2012
1:45 pm
There…I feel better. I found that video on NFL.com and voiced my displeasure. I also found the same feelings over there. You can never tell about online comments and who reads them, but I don’t think these “.com” entities ignore anything nowadays because they’re always monitoring for viewers taking offense at their employees’ on-air remarks.
Feel free to chime in on your displeasure with Total Access double-teaming ex-Ain’ts when talking about our Falcons…
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap2000000069003/Casserly-s-quarterly-awards
JB Falcon
October 3rd, 2012
3:02 pm
JWW, the video ended just as they guy said Matt Ryan for MVP, could have been my computer. Anyway, you could tell by reading the comments that Evans and Sharper were eat up with stupid homerism. I wouldn’t call them the two brightest bulbs on the light fixture.
John Waynesworld
October 3rd, 2012
3:20 pm
Those online NFL network moderator scum scrubbed my comment because
THEY CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Paddy O
October 3rd, 2012
3:36 pm
Big Lou: I concur. However, despite his rookie status, I’m more worried about RG3 than Cam – he has the serious look of a student of the game, and a guy who can pass with some touch. It should be another exciting Falcon game. If pushed to select a score, Falcons 33, Redskins 24
JB Falcon
October 3rd, 2012
4:28 pm
I just now stumbled across that Casserly report of NFL.com and hear the whole thing. Evans and Sharper should stick to football. Having an intelligent opinion takes some brains.
“I didn’t want to wake you last night because it was late so I slept out back in the hammock.”
“But you took the hammock down two weeks ago.”
“I don’t care. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.”
Been doing some background on RGIII and his praises preceed him. Most of them, however, are coming from the DC area so I guess that’s to be expected. Big Lou posted a fair expectation at 1:00. Definitely going to be a good challenge. I see 2-2 against 4-0.
Birdman
October 3rd, 2012
5:00 pm
Good Eve Cage
I am kinda worried a little on the Sunday game . But this little voice tells me that the Falcons will bonce back after a close and Lucky win over the Panthers . 31 to 20 Falcons .
Have a Blessed day Cage .For all those who have had a bad week or day I Pray things get better.
GO FALCONS !!!
chris edge
October 3rd, 2012
5:16 pm
lets go
Birdman
October 3rd, 2012
5:46 pm
Big Ray
My Prayers and thoughts are with you .
Big Lou
October 3rd, 2012
6:19 pm
http://richeisen.nfl.com/2012/10/03/rich-eisen-podcast-matt-ryan-and-the-sklar-brothers/
Awesome interview with Matt Ryan. Start at 15 min.
Big Lou
October 3rd, 2012
6:29 pm
The Mattural!
Unca' Bob
October 3rd, 2012
7:12 pm
Big Lou
October 3rd, 2012
6:29 pm
The Mattural!
LOL. TD refers to him as “Deuce”.
PoolerSpirit
October 3rd, 2012
11:15 pm
Big Ray… I’ll be in town tomorrow… if you need me to bring you anything at the hospital, just let me know… I’ll be around the hospitals around 4pm…
Wabe
October 3rd, 2012
11:48 pm
I mean, they are both former Saints…
Big Lou
October 3rd, 2012
11:59 pm
Unca’ Bob
That’s a pretty nice nickname. TD is good at drafting and nicknames.
I will call TD: The Hair.
Birdman
October 4th, 2012
1:51 am
Late Night Cage
Lot of Posting for work tonight .
Any way ,The Falcons should be more ready for this game this week .They will have been looking at a lot of sues that they had last Sunday with a teem a lot similar to the Cats .
I remember last year and the year before that most of us thought the Saints may get beat by teams like this and they did not . That was then and this is now . The point is our Birds are were they were then. Now its our time to shine . Rise Up !!!!!!!!!
I wan’t to see a 6 and 0 before the byy . Guy’s that will make a statement
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October 4th, 2012
1:53 am
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Big Ray
October 4th, 2012
6:23 am
Birdman ,
Always appreciated. Made it through the second surgery, this time things went the way they were supposed to. Looks like I’m good to go so far.
Pooler Spirit ,
Man, I really really appreciate that. I’m probably going to be released today, hopefully by noon or so. Been staying at Memorial Hospital, but SOOO ready to go home.
Thanks again, will catch up with you at some point, I hope.
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October 4th, 2012
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Big Ray
October 4th, 2012
8:34 am
The more I think about it, the more I think we’ll be needing Kroy Biermann to play a stand-up game against the Redskins, as opposed to playing with a hand in the dirt. Just a gut feeling….
Coop
October 4th, 2012
8:56 am
Big Ray – So glad to hear your surgery went well. Speedy recovery my friend.
John Waynesworld
October 4th, 2012
9:08 am
Big Ray, I believe I heard Coy Wire talking to Spoon on the radio about the Falcons possibly putting either Kroy or Stephen Nicholas as a spy on Griffith. Who knows, maybe they alternate both guys and Kroy can do both stand up and hand in the dirt, and let RG3 figure out who’s who.
I just get a feeling that veteran DCs like Nolan love to mess with rookie QB’s heads, so it should be interesting to watch.
waynester
October 4th, 2012
10:24 am
Big Ray
Get better soon…..
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
10:25 am
This game will really show us a couple things such as:
1. Is our running defense REALLY that bad? Yes it appears. The defensive line, at least thus far, looks slower than last year. They are being gashed in the interior. Review of tape and actual game assessment shows too large of a gap in the interior where OCs are scheming with cutbacks by their running backs. The lack of presence, significant lack of a strong presence at MLB is also a serious concern. After four weeks, I am still very confused as to why we do not have a more persistant presence at the position. Dent is lost when he is out there; I continue to advocate, as I have all preseason and now for the Bier Truck to get a shot at it or the move of Spoon to MLB and the Truck to a OLB position.
Back to the DL. Pass rush is a pathetic joke. Abe is invisible until clean up time. Where in the hell is ANY other defensive end through the first quarter of the season. The ONLY DE with a sack is Abe (3) while the DT rotation has more sacks (4) than the total corps of ends. This has got to change!!
2. Was the offensive line fiasco in ATL against Carolina an anomaly? When Sam Baker was injured or playing badly, the staff was quick to bring in the reserves. Clabo MUST be sat down and sat down NOW! The claims are that he is not healthy. Well, front office, if you did not get the memo on Sunday, then you are asking for trouble. If dude is not healthy, then you had better find a RT and find on quick. If we gave up the sacks we gave up to the lowly Panthers, what in the HELL is going to happen when the Giants D line or the Eagles D line hit the trenches?
Someone said it best earlier in the posting. This team will only go as far as MR2 can take us. Do not be fooled!! Everything else, EVERYTHING else, other than our passing attack, is in transition and leaves a lot to be desired. Think I am kidding. Keep watching!!
3. How far is our new coaches with their schemes offensively/defensively?
Offensively, scheme implementation seems to be going well. I think the OL is in a state of flux. I still think that Pat Hill is quietly evaluating to see what rotation will best serve the eventual full install of the ZBS. Yes, I still believe the ZBS is coming to the ATL. Next year, with a larger, more versatile, and faster back (MT33 will be gone, sorry and thanks for your service), the ZBS will be much more prevalent. Keep watching Houston for what the OL will look like in ATL next year and for years to come.
Defensively, same thing. Just force turnovers, allow the offense to score more points, and all will be fine. We are unusually suspect against the run; linebacker depth is a SERIOUS issue; and we still have issues of periodic confusion in the defense. There seems to be more cohesion in the unit’s play this year but work remains.
Recall, the TeePee stated early. This would be a transitional year. The question was then and still is? Can you handle the transition? Hope so…the ride will get very interesting here as Halloween approaches.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
10:26 am
Big Ray, glad that all is going well for you, brother. Looking forward to you heading home ASAP!!
Coop
October 4th, 2012
10:30 am
SW – Agree with your assessment. Just don’t understand the Clabo deal. When you have to bring in Johnso to play TE, that is a screaming indictment of your RT.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
10:30 am
Birdman, 6-0 is a very realistic approach towards the first half of the season. RG3 will challenge the Falcon defense for sure.
I pray that they do not “spy” RG3 in this game. Taking a LB out of position to “cover” him would play right into the coaching staff hands. This staff loves to use the screen pass and the intermediate routes. And if that is the case, given the sad state of MLB and the interior of the Falcons defense, it could be a very long day.
Pass rush has to show up consistently in this game. A Ray Edwards sighting is a MUST this week and I mean in a HUGE way. Two sacks at a minimum are needed from him!!
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
10:34 am
Amen, Coop. Totally agree. And the excuse that Dahl is no longer besides him carries no weight with me.
The TeePee saw this dude as a fraud and, against the common will, called for his move inside months back. Explain the logic please.
We can move Sam Baker inside to guard when we know he CLEARLY is not guard material but we let a GUARD fake the funk as a RT when we have a career RT that we fake the funk with as a guard?
Coop
October 4th, 2012
10:35 am
I was very concerned about losing Lofton, though we obviously couldn’t afford him. Last year, teams threw on us cause they could. We seem to have that fixed. But if teams force us into the 4-3 like Carolina did and play a power running game against us, we’re in for a long day.
This makes it critical to take the ball first, score, and score TDs. Our O needs to force their O to throw the ball playing catch up. this plays into the strength of our D. Look how hard it was to stop Carolina when they went smittyball on us. Had Cam not fumbled, we lose cause we couldn’t stop the run.
Eagles, Cowboys, Bucs, and Giants can definitely exploit this. Maybe Raiders and Panthers next time too.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
10:38 am
Let me be clear out there. There are three teams that need to not listen to the media, read the papers, or get ahead of themselves.
The Atlanta Falcons
The Florida State Seminoles
The Georgia Bulldogs
Trust me when I say that there is a large population segment out there that are simply waiting on the three to crash. All three are extremely talented, to date have played relatively soft schedules, have shown some potential weaknesses, and are, at this time, MEDIA DARLINGS. Do not fall for it, teams.
Stay humble. Go to work everyday. Focus…be intense, earn it the old fashion way by taking care of YOUR business. The hell with the standings, the rankings, the SportCenter clips, GameDay or the interviews. Handle your business.
Live or Memorex? Three cases before us. In the end, who will be the real deal or will they once again leave us three bridemaids at the alter?
Coop
October 4th, 2012
10:41 am
SW – My only argument on Clabo is I wouldn’t even play him at OG. We repeatedly failed to invest in our lines and it continues to bite us. We drafted a few guys this year… when will they play?
As for the interior D, I love Babs and have supported Jerry. I still think they can make plays, but I want to see more rotation. Every time Walker is in the game, he’s collapsing the pocket and making a play. I’m not saying start him, but let the three of them rotate non-stop. Keeps the motors high all game.
Same with DE. Let’s see more rotation with Sid. The kid has explosive potential. Get him some reps earlier in the game.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
10:44 am
Coop, the TeePee, like you, was very concern about the ability of Lofton to be an effective force in pass coverage. When Dent was drafted, the scouting reports about him clearly indicated he had the same traits as Lofton did. If it was about money, the Falcons would have been much better served with going with tagging Lofton and switching over to a 3-4 scheme. MHO. Another starter at CB could have been found in FA (the TeePee desired Richard Marshall).
The decision to stick with the 4-3 I think was not that of Mike Nolan. Some will argue that the talent we have is suited for the 4-3. It is what we USED to establish a 4-3. But make no mistake; it is a suspect grouping. We have young studs in key positions (LB and safeties) but we are aging quickly on the defensive line (and it shows) and we are older than we should be at CB. Both have an injury history and we have what the TeePee deems insufficient depth in reserve.
Coop
October 4th, 2012
10:49 am
SW – Concur. My comments on the 4-3 were referencing the first couple of games where teams came out with 3 or 4 WR sets and we lined up in nickel packages… no MLB on the field. Carolina ran more base packages that forced us into a 4-3 set. Lot more Dent.
I like a lot about our D, but just like our OL, we have neglected a long term, strategic plan… unless Konz, Johnson, Reynolds, and Hawlyer are more than backups.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
10:51 am
Totally concur on Walker and his plays. The DL effort IMPROVES when he is on the field. That is a fact; seen it with my own eyes in two games as I view from 209, brother.
I will give love where it is do. I was a major Jerry basher but dude has really worked hard and shows signs. Babs is the old plow horse; just goes about his biz with diligence.
Sid and Bier Truck are the primary reasons I say it was a mistake NOT to go to the 3-4. Those guys are BEASTS, BEASTs ready to be UNLEASHED in a 3-4 scheme. If you think JJ Watt is a beast, just close your eyes and imagine Bier Truck coming off the edge.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
11:05 am
Johnson is a MASH unit until he proves otherwise to me. Hawley and Reynolds were never really given the REAL chance to show what they could in their primary positions (MHO). Both lost a considerable amount of tutorial work and practice to the lockout last year. Hawley, thrown to the wolves when Mud Duck was hurt, was a raw as Publix T-Bone. He did he best he could given the circumstances. The WHOLE line, minus Blalock, was a train wreck last season due to a lack of continuity and clearly, a lack of QUALITY coaching effort.
Until last week, the same group of guys, minus Hawley, has looked like a group of All Pros. Well, all but Clabo clearly. Holmes was not brought her to the be the left tackle of the future. Homes may need to become the RT of the moment.
The Konz and Holmes picks. Said it then, will say it now. We were snowed!! They were depth picks from the start. The high selection was meant to make us think that we were addressing the CRITICAL issues on our OL. So far, they are doing a fine job warming those benches. And Unles we plan to cut someone next spring, I do not see them on the field anytime soon.
One more nugget….if this OL gets MR2 to the NFC title game, as it is currently set up, do you really think they will implode it? Sam Baker will be back (company discount) because the team will NOT pay premium dollar for a premium LT next year if he is out there. Besides, they can’t. Why? MR2, with each impressive week, is making his stock rise HIGHER and HIGHER.
If he wins an MVP award, which is possible, MR2’s deal will surplant that of Drew Brees and the impending deal that Aaron Rodgers will soon get from Green Bay. Atlanta is about to have a $100-115 million dollar man. And that my friends will change the nature of the game.
But I will save that for another day….I did warn you about it. The Transition and the Cap. You were warned, remember?
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
11:16 am
Coop, back to line back for a moment.
JJ had this dude (Kendricks) and I had Nigel Bradham from FSU on our big boards as you recall.
Both could have been used as interior presence to fortify the rushing attack. They were that solid. But in the case of both, to maximize the talent, we would have had to adjust to a 3-4.
I would have moved Spoon inside with the Bier Truck as my interior LB corps. That would have been one impressive interior presence; MUCH improved speed and coverage skills in the interior of the field as both guys are quick, rangy, and skilled in coverage. That would have allowed me to use Nicholas and Bradham/Kendrick on the outside where their tenacity and blitz skills would have been unleashed.
You also would have had a full compliment of young, interchangeable linebackers that would have been fully capable of playing in either the 3-4 or 4-3, truly giving Nolan major options in scheming.
Big Lou
October 4th, 2012
11:16 am
Coop
I do not know that the Bucs, Cowboys, and Raiders will take advantage of anything. Remember that Denver/San Diego/KC had a decent running game, too. The REAL weakness is going against running QBs like Cam, who can run the option with the running back. RG3 is most likely the only QB on the teams you list that will really hash our running defense. Vick is more of a pocket passer now, who runs out at times(not the same guy he used to be).
Let me clear something up:
Our run defense is exposed against RUNNING QBs that use the option. They still do well against passing QBs who hands the rock to a RB.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. This is still a passing league and almost every team does not run the option.
Big Lou
October 4th, 2012
11:20 am
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8434708/the-numbers-never-lie-ravens-fueled-their-defense
Great article on Flacco being overrated and even Ryan gets some love, too.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
11:27 am
A very interesting FFL season thus far with a major ACC tilt on schedule this weekend.
I wonder where my ACC brother is with his weekly predictions. I wonder if he is shocked with the work of the Posse thus far. Or like FSU, UGA, and the Falcons, do the pundits feel we are just thrills of the moment?
A lot of football ahead…but at least for now, the Posse will cherish these unchartered waters. Oh yeah; it feels good to be the king (or a least be in the royal court).
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
11:33 am
BL, great piece on Flacco. MR2 is what we that have followed him for some time knew he would be. A cold blooded, focused assassin aka Bruce Willis in the Jackal.
Question: Does the NFL have a Richard Gere to stop him?
Big Lou
October 4th, 2012
11:49 am
SW
I appreciate your incite, but those were more rhetorical questions. You know why? Let me explain.
I am sorry to say, but most fans, like the media… are very knee-jerk in their reactions. They do not wait for trends, or look at the numbers in things. I believe it’s because we are so darn impatient. After one bad game, everyone is quick to point flaws… but are they REALLY flaws? Sam Baker has made ALL OF US eat crow so far this season. Let the coaches do their jobs.
Anyways, let me rebuttal.
1. One, as I have stated before, defensive schemes from new coordinators takes usually a year to really set into a defense. So, I agree there will be mishaps and hiccups throughout the year. That’s why I stated a 11-5 record. YET, this does not negate how well our secondary is playing, which is darn amazing. I did not expect it. But, I digress, let’s focus on the run defense. I agree that the run defense need help. We agree there, yet I am not worried about it. Why? Mike Nolan. He is not like any DC we had before. He will adjust and utilize our talent to make them decent.
Remember, like I have stated before, we only got whipped last weeks because of the OPTION with Cam. Regular running games will not be as potent. Regular QBs cannot run like Cam(except for RG3 and MAYBE Vick).
We only lost Curtis Lofton from our previous defense who was stout against the running. Is he that big a difference? Let’s look at the Saints who are LAST against the run this year. I think we are giving him too much credit. The WHOLE unit stops the run, not just the MLB. I challenge you to look at the film and realize the times we got gashed on the runs versus Cam was on blitzes and poor gap discipline. Placing the blame solely on Dent is a cop out.
As for your defensive pass rush comment… I can only shake my head. They already have 10 sacks this year as a UNIT. Remember what Mike Nolan said? He does not care about on players having 8 sacks, he wants the UNIT to have multiple. The defensive rush has been stellar compared to previous years. The only difference is that we were going against CAM NEWTON, and he made us miss/ran out of the pocket. Most QBs will not hurt us like this. Also, end play is overrated. You want the tackles to collapse the pocket backwards, so the QB cannot step up to pass, which leads to more INTs. How many do we have this year again? I am sorry. This is knee-jerk at its finest.
Big Lou
October 4th, 2012
11:54 am
2. We played against two better defenses than Carolina–Denver/San Diego. They were not even close to pressuring Matt Ryan like the kitties. I really think is was a bad game, that’s all. That’s why I will wait till next game to see a TREND. I refuse to call for offensive line heads because of one bad game. Green Bay’s offensive line got rocked by the Seahawks, then had a solid performance against the Saints. So far, the offensive line had three good games, one bad game. I seriously doubt it’s code red, Matt Ryan will have to be bootleg me-gee yet. Now if they have a bad game against the Redskins, we have a legit reason to worry.
PoolerSpirit
October 4th, 2012
11:56 am
Big Ray… Glad to hear you’re being released… and that the surgery went well… You should be able to find my phone number if you want to get in touch… and if you end up having to stay an extra day, I can at least bring you something to read!
Big Lou
October 4th, 2012
11:59 am
3. I agree with you here, but I believe the transition will be complete by the end of the year with our current unit. I really feel, as does Matt Ryan, that they will make noise THIS YEAR. Yeah, the Falcons have flaws, every NFL team does. Yet, I rather our flaws be against the run game(defensively) than passing the ball. I do agree with your offensive line assessment, though. I would love to see a ZBS.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
12:14 pm
BL,
Nothing but love and respect as always. Let me see if I can add a little more to my points.
First, the pass rush. When I talk about the issue with the pass rush, perhaps I should make my issue of contention be the need for a more consistent nature of the pass rush. At times, it seems that the rush or the lack there of takes extended periods off. Again, I have no problem with where the sacks come from. What I am concerned about is the lack of a consistent pressure element.
You are correct in that any scheme takes time to fully implement. I do see improvements over last year. Attitude is first and foremost, the most important one noted. And things are looking up far more than they are looking down. But as we both agree, work remains.
The Lofton factor, in my MHO, was a mistake. Yes, he apparently did make that much of a difference in the ATL interior rush defense. For it is definately not on par with what it was last season with him on the field. Dent is not and was not, MHO, ready to step into the position. A one year tender would have at least given him the time, under Nolan, for a realistic assessment of his abilities. And it would have provided a better element of stability in the corps. Just my thoughts.
You are correct. To totally blame Dent is perhaps too easy. But there is an issue with the interior presence of the defense. And when we review the tape, the lack of a presence would lead one to first and foremost look for the party that should be in that area. In most cases, under the 4-3 scheme, that should be the MLB. Nolan is experimenting with multiple flex options on defense thus far…will give you that. But there needs to be attention placed on the area that typically is defended by a presence of a MLB. But in fairness, I will continue to monitor it and I thank you for keeping me real, honest, and attentive.
End play can not be overrated, in my HO, if we have invested so much in it over the past three years. We “aggressively” went after Edwards and re-invested (though limited) in Abraham. The skill sets have declined over the last two years; we assume it was a lack of scheme. In this transitional year, we will see. To be determined.
Side note: But your point is noted and is actually a pro for my thoughts on transition to the 3-4 where speed and younger talent can be integrated into the scheme sooner rather than later.
In my humble opinion, the interceptions are up primarily due to a MUCH more disciplined play by our defensive backs. I truly will give credit there to the coaching staff and the work the men have put in in the secondary. They truly are making plays and making a difference back there.
Will grant you that the San Diego defense was not as impressive as years past. Denver was supposed to have a elite pass rush capacity; the Falcons did a marvelous job keeping it in check. Agreed. But going back to last year, Clabo has had issues. And given the trend that has continued, preseason and into the regular season with him, it is a reason to be concerned. Whether injury or whatever, something is not right with Tyson Clabo. And it is not just one game. He has looked bad all season long. He has been “suspect” and it caught up with him big time on Sunday.
Agreed. It needs monitoring. But I disagree with you. It is a pending Code Red if we can not correct it and do so soon.
Again, thanks for keeping me in check. I always appreciate a good teacher.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
12:25 pm
It would appear to me that the OL went back to the more power presence than the psuedo ZBS reflections we saw in weeks before. Will monitor that this week again the Redskins.
The speed and “strength” of Johnson was simply overwhelming as he detroyed Clabo.
It is an issue of immediate concern when your right tackle gives up FIVE sacks in one game. And it is a concern when five sacks represent nearly 50% of your season total to date.
Not in panic mode but it needs to be addressed. And with Clabo, there is a trend emerging that is a little nervous, especially when Smitty considers him the OL’s most consistent element.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
12:26 pm
Charles Johnson is a good DE but he is not that damned good.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
12:32 pm
Will at least give the team credit…they made the needed adjustment when it counted. In that last minute, on the 59 pass play to RW, the Falcons used THREE people on Charles Johnson.
TG88 and HD83 were moved over to assist Clabo with pass protection in that situation. A move that proved to be very, very critical to that pass play.
waynester
October 4th, 2012
1:01 pm
Seminole Warrior
HCMS referred to Clabo having a problem with his hip–which can really reduce your power and maneuverability–I’d be curious to know just what the problem really is(as would D-line coaches everywhere). Charles Johnson is good enough that he was our first choice over Ray Edwards but CAR gave him a mega-deal leaving us with a player who has yet to show up in a major way.
I know it could all fall to pieces any time but this has been an awesome month of ball for DawgaNoles(TM) and Falcon fanatics–just keep it going guys…..
John Waynesworld
October 4th, 2012
1:44 pm
Wow, it is impossible to compare C. Johnson to “Who” Ray Edwards. Johnson is a perennial double-digit sackmaster who comes to play and if they are shutting him down during a game, that means they are double-teaming him. “Who” Ray is a mystery, a question mark, and nothing else besides a complete waste of millions of dollars. Smitty says he is a good run stopper, well, so is a a properly placed file cabinet on the line of scrimmage. “Who” Ray is a fraud, a charlatan, a shape-shifting piece of beef on a hook. Jason Babin, who Dimitroff passed over and let Philly take for less money the day before he paid Edwards, had 18 sacks in 2011 and he already has 2.5 in the first four games for the Eagles. “Who” Ray had 3.5 sacks in 2011 and he has ZERO sacks this season. But “Ray’s good at defending the run”. says Smitty. Right. A perfect epitaph for a failed pass rusher.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
1:50 pm
Waynester, will give you those points. If it is a hip issue and it clearly is impacting his power and range of motion as you suggest, then CMS is a damned fool in letting this be a potential risk to both Clabo AND MR2. Get dude evaluated, treated/rested if needed, or make a move. You can not roll the dice and risk a potential season changing injury to your QB or RB on the possible iffy health of your RT. Johnson is a guard and Reynolds is a natural tackle.
Chuck J. was the highest rated DE coming out that season having posted a monster season prior to free agency. That was his big season, the 2010 year. Like Edwards, Johnson was the benefical one having played next to a superior pass rusher. Johnson had Peppers opposite him until the 2010 season in which he (Johnson) broke out. Likewise, Edwards had Allen opposite him until he left for ATL.
Since getting their deals and becoming the “man”, they both have underachieved. Records review show that they have one or two monster breakouts (still waiting, Ray) and then disappear.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
1:53 pm
JWW, well stated in the description of Ray Edwards. But with the exception of 2010, Johnson is a very serviceable #2 defensive end. He has averaged five sacks per year in his six year career outside of the breakout 2010 year. Serviceable, yet. Sackmaster….still emerging.
Totall agree on missing with the Jason Babin potential move. That one did in fact get away from us.
SeminoleWarrior
October 4th, 2012
2:01 pm
Cocoa Mel moment…
Going to test my waters tonight for the first time. Hope the young man plays well for me.
Check out the USC versus Utah game tonight. DT Star Lotulelei will be on display for the Utes.
A 6′4, 325 massive presence in the middle at NT/DT, this guy is on the Cocoa Mel’s scouting radar as I seek to find ways to shore up the interior defensive presence.
darrell starks
October 4th, 2012
2:53 pm
Changes on the OL ?
many ways the Falcons could go with this.
Lamar Holmes play LT and move Baker to RT
OR
Play Konz at RG and Move Reynolds to RT
Clabo is not looking good at all.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
October 4th, 2012
2:56 pm
My game so far on OL go to Reynolds for now, i was the the first to dog him out before season started, but i have to admit he have step up 2 the plate the first 4 games.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Paddy O
October 4th, 2012
2:57 pm
well, I’m not buying the knee jerk marginalization argument – 7 sacks is horrific. Plus, we have had extended problems with the middle of the field, after the initial start of the play, being left open like the Red Sea and Moses; I never thought Lofton did a great job on the run – he frequently got caught inside the plane of the scrimmage line (overcommitted to gap penetration prematurely), thus allowing one of 2 possible holes to be used by RB or scrambler. AT this point, we still have that lingering problem – perhaps have DeCoud provide Red Sea protection?
Big Ray
October 4th, 2012
2:59 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/10/04/asante-samuel-says-the-defense-has-a-long-way-to-go/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_falcons_blog
Interesting. I do like the fact that Samuel is being direct to the point of harsh….
darrell starks
October 4th, 2012
3:00 pm
Baker have played okay so far this season but he continue to get bull rush back towards the Ice man, making Matt Ryan sometime uncomfortable in the pocket.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!
Big Ray
October 4th, 2012
3:08 pm
Not agreeing on the Lofton factor – he’s a great run stopper, but not so good in the pass rush, even less so in coverage. This was about money and a position that wasn’t going to get but so much use. Are we having trouble against the run? Yes, we are. But look at other positions…I’m just not seeing it, especially with the speed and sudden-ness of Nicholas and Spoon out there. Dent isn’t ready, we all see that…don’t know if he just needs some seasoning or what…what I do know is we should move to a 3-4 defense next season…just sayin’….
The DE play is obvious, as SW says. I hate to be wrong about Ray Edwards, but it’s clear that I am just plain wrong about him. Dude is a decent run stopper, gives us not much as far as pass rush.
Biermann looks more and more like a natural 3-4 LB every day. Love to have him playing standing up.
Big Ray
October 4th, 2012
3:10 pm
I just about don’t give a damn what Clabo’s problem is. Hip, head, heart….whatever. He’s the weakest link on this line, and prior to 2011, you would have never sold me on that idea.
Nolan will get more of what he wants with this defense next season. It will happen via draft and/or free agency, count on it.
Wabe
October 4th, 2012
3:11 pm
Regarding the O-Line, the trend is there…
It’s been there since last season. I know we’re employing a different blocking scheme and what not, but, considering we’re coming into this season with O-Line questions, every game is fair game as far as ‘analysis’ is concerned. I’ll admit, the O-Line has held up well overall. But, there’s no denying at this point that the right side of this line is suspect. In week 1, it was Clabo who allowed that first sack. Week 2 against the Broncos, it was Dumervil coming around Clabo to get to Ryan late in that 4th quarter. And then this past week, it was Clabo again who was getting beat up by Charles Johnson.
Now, I don’t consider that knee-jerk. I don’t remember if he gave up a sack against SD, but I know he’s given up a sack in 3 of the 4 games we’ve played this season. I consider that a trend, and that points to a vulnerability on the right side of the line.
I have no problem with your approach BL. It’s not as though your speaking outrageous when you try to calm the tension and concern, because you’re right, it is one game. I think you make a valid point about the run defense and how we should wait and see how this facet of the defense is addressed. Mainly because Smitty’s done a good job during his tenure to secure the run defense. But, I can’t say the same about the O-Line. The O-Line isn’t working with the same leash. They came into this season with something to prove after last season’s playoff debacle. And although they’ve played well for the most part, you can’t fault any fans for throwing up the red flags after a performance like we saw.
icons downloads
October 4th, 2012
3:34 pm
In ut something is. Thanks for an explanation.
D3
October 4th, 2012
3:57 pm
SW / BL — I’d like to jump in on the run defense debate if you don’t mind. I’d have to agree with Big Lou on this one. I think that Dent is getting a little unfair criticism so far. I do think he’s seeing some major growing pains, but if you think about it, he really hasn’t been featured that much until it’s necessary. He barely saw the field in KC and didn’t even touch it vs. Denver & Peyton. I can’t remember how much he played against San Diego, but knowing how much Rivers likes to pass, probably not that much. So essentially, this was Dent’s main playing experience and he had to deal with (s)Cam and a good running attack (should be one of the best with (s)Cam, Stewart, Williams, and Tolbert).
I think it’s a little premature to call him a bust or a reach after basically one game. And here’s the kicker of them all. Remember that former Pro Bowler we signed as insurance that was looking to make a comeback and looking good before he tore his pec muscle? Remember Lofa Tatupu? Injuries are a part of the game, but TD did hedge his bets with Dent/Losing Lofton with Tatupu ( a very low risk, potentially high reward pickup).
I mean sure, I would have loved to keep Lofton as much as anyone, but I think that TD made a calculated decision based on money, other looming free agents coming up (Spoon, Ryan, etc) and where Nolan would be taking this defense and Lofton simply was an expensive luxury we didn’t need. I’ll agree that Dent, at the time, was a bit of a reach, but we thought the same thing about Corey Peters Throw in the fact that Mark Richt-coached players are usually always under-developed (check out Geno Atkins and Blair Walsh among tons of others) and I guess he gets the benefit of the doubt for now. I do also agree that we need some serious infusion at OLB since Nick is heading to 30 soon and Spoon is the only main LB stud we got.
Also, (and I know this is a little snarky) looking at the Saints with Curtis Lofton at MLB is officially the worst defense in the NFL doesn’t help either. To be honest, I’ll take a weaker run defense in exchange for a more aggressive, takeaway defense that defends the pass well.
Big Lou
October 4th, 2012
3:59 pm
Wabe
Of course, I understand that fans will have some sort of trepidation after Sunday. It’s natural. I’ll concede on Calabo, since the sacks have come from his side. Yet, Ryan still had good protection the previous three games. They were getting honorable mentions for Oline of the month before Carolina.
I am glad you agree on the defense. Let’s just say I rather have an issue defending the run, then pass.
SW
Your points on the Oline is solid. I just want to give the Redskins game preformance before red flags.
We will just have to agree to disagree on the Curtis Lofton deal. Saints are last in the league in defending the run, just saying. If Lofton was that important for us, the Saints wouldn’t be that bad. I still think its lack of gap discipline and over anxious line play.
Big Lou
October 4th, 2012
4:05 pm
D3
Amen. I don’t see teams winning the Superbowl with only the run.
Big Lou
October 4th, 2012
4:07 pm
Big Ray
Still making great point while on the hospital bed. That’s detication! Great link, too. I like Asante’s view. That’s a veteran for you.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 4th, 2012
5:25 pm
I would like to chime in on the A. Dent convo. This is his second year on the roster, he’s a middle linebacker, stopping the run should be instinctive for him. Hell, you could put a refrigerator in middle and it could make a tackle on occasions. I would have to respectively disagree with those that say he will have to grow into the position. I would be more inclined to give him (Dent) a pass if he were stopping the run, but struggling in coverage, he lacks in both. Say what you will, there are several 2nd and 3rd year middle linebackers in the NFL tearing it up. IMO, he lacks talent.
And another thing…Why is Mike Peterson on the Roster? active each game thus far, but not playing? If he’s getting paid to be a cheerleader from the sidelines each week, I rather Coach Smith and staff, replace him with one of the ladies from the cheerleading staff…at least that would be more pleasing to the eyes. Just my opinions.
Big Lou
October 4th, 2012
5:39 pm
Somebody
It’s hard to gain rythm when you are out most of the plays. Imagine if you did that to Matt Ryan, he would never be a good QB if he has to sit out all the run plays. Apples and oranges.
Also, remember when everyone was getting on Dent the first game(not making tackles) and he didn’t even play. Just shows how much people pay attention. They just assume: they went up the middle and got first down. It’s Dent’s fault! But, as a guy who played Dline for five years, it’s not that simple. Gap assignments always change by specific blitz packages. Also, the play that Can got a TD was a gaff by Stephen Nicholas. Dent wasn’t even on the field, I believe.
John Waynesworld
October 4th, 2012
6:57 pm
I agree D3 about Dent and that we need some patience while the he gets some reps in live action, however I do wish we could have seen more of Pat Schiller, who looked pretty agressive at MLB in a couple of preseason games. I would be curious to know why Schiller was expendable enough to leave unprotected on the PS. It may be he was dinged too much or simply wasn’t a special teams ace.
As far as Lofton, I don’t believe it was all a money thing. Even though he was a tackling stud, his pass defense and stone hands were a real problem and it wasn’t getting better. I think it was an opportunity that just presented itself to Dimitroff to free up money, with thanks to Lofton’s pricey free agent market price and Dent’s competency and production in last year’s practices.
War Eagle
October 4th, 2012
8:46 pm
Please do not criticize Cam. You would pout too if you had to take a big pay cut from college to professional football.
Screen Pass
October 5th, 2012
12:02 am
Just watched the Cards vs ATL-West Rams game. Thank god we didn’t select Massey in the draft. There is gonna be hella competition in next years draft for O-linemen. The Rams DE’s and front 4 pressure in general makes me mighty jealous.
Congrats Falcons being last undefeated NFC team and one of only two in league. The Rams don’t need Pead, would like to see a trade for the little guy, would solve kick returns and a pass catching back all in one.
Big Ray
October 5th, 2012
4:03 am
Coop and Seminole Warrior ,
Both of you hitting it hard on the defensive side of the ball and the O-Line.
Damn fine comments, can’t help but agree with just about all of it.
I think we got juked out of our shoes with Ray Edwards. Solid against the run, giving us jack diddly against the pass for the most part.
Somebody tell honest abe I owe him a 24 pack on that one…boy was he right…and boy was I WRONG.
Kroy Biermann = excellent potential in a 3-4 setup.
And I agree that the 4-3 is not something Nolan probably wanted to stick with. I’ll never forget a quote he had before the preseason started – He said that every DE we had would be a standup LB in HIS 3-4 defense….I’m telling you we have to move to that defense.
Babs and Jerry are doing ok, but y’all are right…not consistent enough. Have no idea why Vance Walker isn’t playing more…he makes plays when he’s in there.
Big Ray
October 5th, 2012
4:07 am
Big Lou ,
You are SO RIGHT about the gap thing on DL. I switched back and forth between NT and DT when I played. Started off as a LB but gained weight/size/strength, so got moved to interior D-Line.
Gap scheme changes used to be problematic at times. One thing I hated more than anything else, a huge guard pulling from the other side that I didn’t see coming. Only happened to me twice…that was all it took, LOL. Kept my head on a swivel after that. But they often had trouble with me because I’m only 5′11″….many DL guys were 6′1 or better.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
9:22 am
Good morning Cage
First, great discussions yesterday, particularly the exchange between the TeePee and Big Lou. Civil, insightful, and points acknowledged on both sides. We still disagree on a few points but that’s my bro from another mo over there….it’s all good.
D3, my other bro from another mo, the Dent situation and the points you made are all good. We did take a quick shot at the low risk, high reward signing of Lofu. I will grant you that. But it was CMS that said Dent was ready to roll. BL makes the point that AD has been rarely on the field. He is right in that regard. HOWEVER, when he has been on the field, he has been very, very lost looking in his effort. Now he was a rising special teams star that saw some very limited action in the prior regimes’ pathetic scheme; after four games this year, he has only seven tackles and no impactful plays.
I know that Nolan is an innovative coach. I, as I have stated many times, see this as a year of team transition. I am convinced that changes, some major, will be coming next off-season on defense. I think that Nolan will want a few changes. But I ask a simple question. Why would a DC whose coaching resume and presumed excellence on defense is built around his linebackers, especially his MLB corps, simply abandon the position for extended periods of time now? MHO, the Falcons best linebackers are the guys on the outside. A middle linebacker is in the cards for 2013….bank on it.
Nolan’s more successful packages drafted that key MLB presence as he moved around the league. Especially in his 3-4 schemes. The Jets drafted Marvin Jones and Bryan Cox. The Ravens drafted Ray Lewis. The 49ers drafted Ray Lewis. And when ATL moves to the 3-4 next season, which they should, they will draft an interior linebacker that will bring immediate presence OR they wil acquire a young FA 3-4 stud that will be the cornerstone for an interior defensive overhaul.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
9:36 am
Big Ray,
Hope that your recovery is going well and that you will be home very soon. Great insight from the hosptial couch though.
My bro, I too think that the Falcons will move to a 3-4 defense next season. There are several bigger DTs available in next years draft and I can see where there will be a few LB candidates available to beef up the corps for the Falcons.
Several of the contracts that were given this past off-season, according to K Strick and D3, are not as bad as I (SW) thought they were in terms of the salary cap. I’m still very cap nervous (and still learning the process from my brothers) but I can see where a couple of “prominent” Falcons will not be in the mix next season. The youtrh movement will increase next season if for no other reason than MR2 is going to get SERIOUSLY PAID in very short order.
Speaking of pay the man NOW or ASAP, it would be in the best interest of the Falcons to do so. Why? There is a slimy snake out there with a deep set of pockets that I think will be looking VERY soon for a quarterback. Not because he does not need one; he will be looking for one because he does not TRUST the one he has. And it is not the QB’s fault. The team in question is a mess; they have a head coach that is a joke, an OL that is a disaster, and they can not run the ball with any element of consistency. And I am not talking about the Arizona Cardinals or the New York Jets.
The greatest threat to us regarding MR2 possibly will come from the Dallas Cowboys.
Let me be clear. MR2 loves ATL and I really think he will want to stay in the ATL long term. But keep an eye on the snake that is Jerry Jones. Dude wants to win NOW and if he can get the right QB and is willing to give a guy like Cowher a chunk of the control over personnel, stranger things have happened. Again, not saying it will happen BUT it is something to watch.
The Rogers contract with Green Bay will be telling. If Brees got $100 million ($60 million guaranteed), what do you think the market will be for Ryan. I know the contract still has two years on it (2014) but the original deal was for six year, $72 million (34.75 mill guaranteed). You can easily increase that by a minimum, MINIMUM, of 25% as a starting point for the future negotiations.
The transition and the stability moves are just beginning.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
9:41 am
SP, you are so correct.
There is going to be wholesale war out there trying to acquire offensive line talent. We took two in our draft this year but the jury is still out on them.
Pead will be the starter at running back next year for the Rams. Stephen Jackson has asked for and been granted the ability to opt out of the last year of his contract at the end of this season. He will be a FA next spring.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
9:46 am
My man Lotulelei gave you a flash of what he could be as the centerpiece of a Mike Nolan defensive front. He was disruptive and did you see how dude moves for a 325-330 pound man. Dude reminds me of a young Vince Wilfork when he came out of the”U”. Was not flashy but was disruptive and he made those around and behind him better.
The Utah defense is young and still has some growing to do. But the upside is there. And it starts up front with Star.
Wait a minute….a defense that has some growing to do. Where did I just hear that comment?
Ohhhhhh yeah, here in ATL.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
9:50 am
If you are not at a game this weekend, I will give you two more DTs to watch from the Cocoa Mel scouting pages.
Purdue: DT Kawann Short
Georgia: DT John Jenkins
OSU: DT Johnathon Hankins
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
9:50 am
Oops…I gave you three names. Georgia public schools and math. Damn it!!
Paddy O
October 5th, 2012
10:18 am
SP, folks: If you watched the AZ game – I assume you witnessed what appeared to be a highly effective Harvey Dahl doing some superb run blocking. Notice our inability to move the pile on 4th & very short is connected to Dahls’ departure? hmmm.
snacktastic
October 5th, 2012
10:21 am
Is it Sunday yet?!
Falcons 34-10 over the Redskins. I think we learn from our mistakes against Cam and shut down RG3.
And who else is excited to get Corey Peters back after the bye week?
D3
October 5th, 2012
10:36 am
SW — Hey, watch it on GA public schools.
lol
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
11:39 am
LOL, nothing but love for them, D3. Could not have become what I was without the professionalism, the commitment, and the love of the teachers in the Thomasville City Schools. Luv ‘em and I let them know it when I see them now…..
Snack, I will glad to see him added to that rotation. Looking forward to him and Hip Hip as the pressure points opposite a true BIG MAN in 2013 as I hope we move to the 3-4.
Yes, I am getting rid of both Abe and Edwards as I move to the 3-4. Details in a future posting in the offseason before the 2013 draft.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
11:43 am
Paddy O…
It is becoming more and more obvious each day that we let the wrong guy leave. But it is what it was. We now need to acknowledge that there is a situation that needs addressing on the right side of the Falcons offensive line.
Simply put, in the eyes of the TeePee, at this particular moment, we are playing with hell’s fire each time MR2 drops back to pass. I pray that the Angel that is Sarah B continues to keep her eyes on him and her protecting arms around him. If not, and God forbid, we are in DEEP trouble.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
11:48 am
Key to the game Sunday. Rush defense.
Right now, Washington is doing a fine job with its rushing attack. Meanwhile, the Falcons have one of the league’s worse rush defenses. No my words…simple facts….the league stats support it.
If Shanahan and Co. can control the clock with the rushing game as well as a strong intermediate passing presence, one that does not put RG3 into pressing situations, this game has the potential to be just as close as what we saw this past Sunday.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
11:56 am
By the same token, the Falcons are not really facing a defense that is really, in MHO, threatening. The Redskins are suspect in pass defense so the intermediate game could be a blessing. Also, the ability to pressure the QB has been even more suspect for the ‘Skins this season to date.
The second point may be a blessing for an ATL OL whose right side can’t wait to get to the bye week and get healthy or whatever the hell it needs to get its focus intact.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
12:05 pm
“Nolan’s more successful packages drafted that key MLB presence as he moved around the league. Especially in his 3-4 schemes. The Jets drafted Marvin Jones and Bryan Cox. The Ravens drafted Ray Lewis. The 49ers drafted Ray Lewis. And when ATL moves to the 3-4 next season, which they should, they will draft an interior linebacker that will bring immediate presence OR they wil acquire a young FA 3-4 stud that will be the cornerstone for an interior defensive overhaul.” ……SW
Ooops. Major mistake. The 49ers, under Nolan, did not draft Ray Lewis as we all know. They took the SEC Defensive Player of the Year, Patrick Willis. Yeah, that Patrick Willis. The dude we passed on for some ione hit wonder guy from Arkansas named Anderson.
The SAME 2007 draft, the one in which we had 11 picks, and let such names as Darrelle Revis, Jon Beason, Dwayne Bowe, Joe Staley, and Ryan Kalil get away.
But it was the year, 2007, in which the fraud in the front office was exposed. Petrino and McKay. Enuf said.
Big Ray
October 5th, 2012
12:09 pm
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2012/10/05/atlanta-falcons-pass-protection-issues-go-beyond-line/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_falcons_blog
A lot of this makes sense to me.
The part about Ryan holding the ball too long makes sense, too…if you pay attention closely to what is being said. When an aggressive defense comes up on your “short pass” plays, then you WILL hold the ball too long…or you’ll throw it away or throw an INT. Those are pretty much your choices.
It’s funny how if Ryan throws it away, folks would say he looked just like he did last year and the year before. Yet if he throws a pick, it’s his fault, and if he holds the ball too long, then he’s the one screwing up the offense. Ain’t that freakin’ simple.
Beyond that, two things really stood out to me about this article:
1) Koetter impresses me with doing something Mularkey never did – understanding, recognizing, and holding himself accountable for his contribution to the problem. He pretty much said it wasn’t just the O-line, he didn’t call the right plays against the right coverages at times, and didn’t provide enough help protection.
How refreshing. Because, a guy who says this is a guy who makes adjustments as the game goes along, as the season goes along, as you get into high gear. This gives us a chance to succeed where we have failed before.
2) Justin Blalock and Todd McClure showing the right attitude and some leadership qualities. I was tired of Tyson Clabo quotes anyway….
Big Ray
October 5th, 2012
12:15 pm
SW ,
Made it out of the hospital yesterday morning, around 1000 hrs my friend. Been home since, with my wonderful wife trying to take care of my every need (I’m a strong and stubborn guy, so it’s been a slight struggle, LOL).
I see you are STILL on fire….keep it up.
I’m with you on Nolan and some personnel changes. I hope so fervently that we go to a 3-4 defense. The potential is SO much better, especially with our existing personnel. You only have to draft certain kinds of DL players, and there are always more LBs to pick from that can be developed and fit into your schemes.
You’re dead-on about the game against Washington. Stop the run and we have a shot. Don’t stop the run, and we’re either in a shoot out or going for our first loss of the season, one way or another. Doesn’t get any simpler than that…
Big Ray
October 5th, 2012
12:22 pm
snacktastic ,
I’m very ready to see Corey Peters back out there. I just worry about how strong or how close to 100% he is. We need him strong . Right now we basically have a 3 man rotation at DT and while Babs and Jerry aren’t playing badly, they aren’t playing “good” either. In fact, Vance Walker is the best performing DT right now.
10 tackles and 2 sacks for Vance, and he doesn’t play as many snaps as Jerry or Babs….
JB Falcon
October 5th, 2012
12:26 pm
You can follow this link to a pretty good evaluation about what to expect. In short, a darn good game!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000069120/article/peyton-manning-vs-tom-brady-falconsredskins-head-week-5
Big Ray
October 5th, 2012
12:30 pm
In fact, here’s the story on our DL – I’ll include Biermann even though he’s playing both DL and LB:
Abe – 10 tackles, 3 sacks
Edwards – 6 tackles
Babineaux – 6 tackles, 2 sacks
Biermann – 14 tackles
Vance Walker – 10 tackles, 2 sacks
Peria Jerry – 3 tackles
Sid the Kid – 1 tackle
Cliff Matthews – 1 tackle
Damn….whatever happened to Sidbury? Injured or ineffective? And Vance Walker may or may not be a situational DT, but he is outplaying the two guys starting in front of him.
I’m not in any way concerned with Biermann’s lack of sack stats. He’s getting the tackles, and most of them are solos, not assists.
Big Lou
October 5th, 2012
1:30 pm
Paddy O
I also saw the QB clobbered on pass plays. I wonder if that’s why we let go of Dahl, hmmm? This is a more pass HEAVY offense now.
Jimbo73
October 5th, 2012
1:49 pm
I’m looking for Clabo to bounce back this week (always the optimist) as he fully participated in practice this week, unlike previous weeks. I’m hopeful that’s an indicator that he has bounced back from the hip injury that was obviously limiting his recent effectiveness. If nothing else, they may have to slide prtections to his side to give him some help and maybe get some chips on the DE from our TEs.
It’s the other line which concerns me more, espcially against Shanahan’s zone blocking scheme. I’m confident that Nolan will have a good game plan to neutralize it but just question our ability to execute. Regardless, I think we are a better team and have the playmakers to carry us to 5-0. Go Falcons ! ! !
Mike "CHOKE" Dogs To Death
October 5th, 2012
2:20 pm
Hey, where has old Matt “CHOKE” Ryan been all week? Has anyone heard from him? Wow, with Matt Ryan named NFL player of the week, leading the universe in QB rating, his team undefeated, I guess there’s just not that much to criticize — especially after the way he won the Carolina game, in major CLUTCH fashion, about as far from choking as you can get.
Inevitably, though, the Falcons will have a bad game (they probably won’t go 16-0), and when they do — watch out!! Old Matt “CHOKE” Ryan will blog here every 15 minutes.
But for now — good riddance!
HA HA
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
3:11 pm
BR, glad that you are home. Go easy on the First Lady now. She is a super fine woman that is there for your every need. Be sure to return the favor when you are completely back in the game. A visit to the SunDIal, complete with candles, a dozen red, and a fine red, is just what she will deserve.
Totally with you on the Bier Truck and the lack of sacks. And will go one step further. Imagine what dude could do if he was given a four game stretch to play the interior LB position. It truly is worth a look. What in hell do we have to lose.
Jimbo73 @ 1:49
Certainly pray your first paragraph analysis is correct. And I totally concur with the second paragraph.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
3:15 pm
BR,
Accountability? Am I dreaming? Did Dirk dare mention accountability?
That rare element that we have all been screaming for to improve with the Falcons!!
Damned!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdi-1tIUhM
I love it!! To have Dirk say that he not only holds his players accountable but himself is a SIGNIFICANT change in philosophy for this team. It surely seems that Mike Smith made the correct call in this guy.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
3:18 pm
BL, did you get a chance to check out Star last night in the Utah/USC game?
WR
October 5th, 2012
3:31 pm
Again not able to check into the cage as much as usual but when considering this last game, one has to check in if only to give a HUGE rah rah. I don’t want the Falcons to peak to early, it would be easy to talk about them peaking considering their start, but at the same time they in my opinion they haven’t put a complete game together yet and that’s not a complaint. Defensively, there’s been a lack of real pressure, but a great job at disguising what the D is doing, I expect this area to improve.
Offensively, the birds fit the new mold of what football has become, an offense that is explosive, attacking and dictating, yes DICTATING, haven’t been able to say that in quite some time. At the same time they haven’t figured out how to really deploy the offense, considering all its weapons. Yet again I say that not as a complaint, its to acknowledge the fact that the birds are alot further alone early in the season then I thought they would be, even considering the schedule. For that matter what is consideration of the schedule, many picked SD to win the AFC West, there have been many that picked the Panthers to win the NFC South, with Manning Denver even got some extremely high expectations, and KC expectations were high until Cassel faceplanted. Who expected anything from Arizona, Seattle, Minnesota, Washington, St. Louis, and the list could go on. Strength of schedule is determined by the previous year results, and because those results change every year which is what the NFL wants, I can’t short change the Falcons, they haven’t beat up on supposedly weaker teams, they have beat up on teams that before the season started, many of the so-called experts had high expectations for, to end a long story, I’m extremely happy with the product that our Falcons are putting out there.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
3:35 pm
Paddy O / Big Lou,
BL, the Rams OL only gave up one sack to the Cardinals if I recall last night. Dahl did not surrender it.
On the opposite side, the Cardinals line was simply horrid. Everyone on that line got their ass kicked.
One more point. Recall that as he built his Tennessee Titans defense, Jeff Fisher instilled an attitude and an aggression in that unit. Are we seeing a little of that beginning to take hold in STL. Too early to tell but worth watching.
SeminoleWarrior
October 5th, 2012
3:38 pm
My ACC brother, hope all is well with you. Better put that call into Tommy Bowden or Ron Zook to come and take over that Georgia Tech program. Too much talent there for what they are doing.
Bowden and Zook know the southeast well. They could recruit well and return Tech to respectability. And that helps the ACC as a whole in the continuous battle to “prove itself” overall.
Give them a call. They both would love to come to ATL I am sure.
Big Lou
October 5th, 2012
4:20 pm
SW
Not really talking about this game specifically. Yet, the Ram’s Oline allowed 6 sacks against the Bears. They have one of the worst pass protections in the league.
JB FALCON
October 5th, 2012
6:57 pm
For what it’s worth 11 out if 14 of the talking heads on ESPN picked to Birds to win Sunday. I hope, for once, they are right.
WR, 3:31, Excellent post and I’m with you all the way. This looks liked “We are what we think we are.” And have 12 more games to prove it. A win Sunday will be our best start EVER so we won’t have to worry about the last time we were 4-0. This team, this year, is unlike any Falcon team we have ever been presented with.
falcon21
October 5th, 2012
7:25 pm
JB FALCON, the Braves need a little of your “it’s not over till it’s over” magic!
WR
October 5th, 2012
7:32 pm
JB, amen, didn’t expect 4-0 but I’ll take it, that being said, I’m not one for moral victories 1st off, but if the Falcons were 2-2 I would be happy because this is as diverse as this team has looked in over a decade. Yes that includes the Vick years, with Vick, they played both bend but don’t break offense and defense and let’s hope Vick bail us out, when he was busy worrying about other business ventures. In the 90’s they had a gimmick offense and no defense, in the early 80’s they actually had pretty good offensive weapons but didn’t feel the need to protect their QB. But now, they are focused on the total package in my opinion, enjoying the ride.
JB FALCON
October 5th, 2012
7:41 pm
21, Are the Braves on TV? Couldn’t find it.
JB FALCON
October 5th, 2012
7:54 pm
21, Just found the braves game to see the ball drop between two players. I can’t offer any hope for plays like that.
Big Ray
October 5th, 2012
8:04 pm
SW ,
No fears on that front. The First Lady is insisting on treating me the same as I treated her during her last procedure, LOL. I’m just not easy to care for because I try to do things for myself. I now have to remind myself that I can’t lift this and that for the next couple weeks.
She knows I’ll do her right.
Unca' Bob
October 5th, 2012
8:46 pm
Never claimed to have much knowledge about anything. But, my gut tells me we have to rush the ball effectively and stop their rush. If we don’t our passing game could struggle…Just a thought.
falcon21
October 5th, 2012
8:53 pm
JB, you found it just in time to see one of the worst calls ever made in MLB. WR @ 3:31, good comment man!
Screen Pass
October 5th, 2012
9:26 pm
“Pead will be the starter at running back next year for the Rams. Stephen Jackson has asked for and been granted the ability to opt out of the last year of his contract at the end of this season. He will be a FA next spring.” – SW
Hard to say at this point. I watched their pre-season games and they mostly tried to use Pead the same way MM tried to use JQuiz up the middle. Pead is currently behind the 7th round pick Richardson?…not a good sign that they understand the concept of not using him as a feature back. He has the size and durability to do that some but using him fulltime in that role is optimistic at best..moronic is prolly closer to the truth. Making people miss is his game not kamakazi crease squirting like the 7th round guy.
I wouldn’t break the bank trying to trade for him but if they let him go for less than the second they used that is a value win. IF, and it is for sure at his point, they were willing to entertain trade ideas I would try offloading a package of some of our “lost players” with a name guy we are going to drop for salary anyways. I would doubt it but they might go for quantity instead of being stuck with a low round pick that prolly will not excel at what they seem to want him to do.
I don’t know that we would even know what to do with him at this point. We haven’t exactly used JQuizz and Nance in the scat/ outlet pass role to a great degree yet. It is intriguing to speculate, maybe by years end some things will become clearer.
JB FALCON
October 5th, 2012
9:28 pm
21, I looked up the game results and, if I were a stickball fan, I would be pissed. Sounds like the replacement ref’s. I follow the Braves but don’t have the patience to watch a game. The post I read said the time-out lasted 19 minutes! That’s a full 1/4 of football.
Anyway, the ball ws 50 ft out of the infield???? Even the NFL replacements weren’t that blind.
JB FALCON
October 5th, 2012
10:18 pm
I know this is a Falcon blog but, since 21 brought up the Braves game, and me being a long time Atlanta resident/semi-Braves fan, to see Chipper, in his last game, making, and admitting, that his error was a major contribution, if not the reason, for the Brave’s loss. che sara’ sara’.
falcon21
October 5th, 2012
10:50 pm
LOL JB, this is a Falcons blog but other sports talk is welcomed by D3 if not abused!
Big Lou
October 5th, 2012
11:45 pm
Unca’ Bob
You are correct to an extent. We need to run the ball effectively, but short passes, screens can be even more effective on keeping RG3 on the sidelines.
It’s just hard to rush on them, compared to their atrocious passing D.
Paddy O
October 6th, 2012
1:23 am
JB – i went to Chippers last game. the infield fly rule called was utter manure. chipper had a bad game, sadly – left a lot of guy on base; but, the ump did prevent him from being the last out of the game, and Freddy Freeman blasted a ground rule double – otherwise, Chipper probably would have scored. Plus, the SS and Uggla tossed in another pair of errors PLUS Ventors allowed an earned run when he tried to tag a guy at first, apparently forgot about the runner on 2nd who trucked around and scored on a bunt to first. Bad game by the braves. But, still exciting to watch Chippers last game of his career.
Wabe
October 6th, 2012
8:17 am
The Braves need another head coach…
I’m not a huge Braves fan or anything. But, that team has been talented enough for the past couple of seasons now to at least be making some decent to deep postseason runs. And in consecutive years, you allow the Cardinals to knock you out. I understand the new rule implementation (wild card sudden death) sucks, but again, there’s nothing about Gonzalez that makes you see he’s an absolute keeper. He’s replaceable. And honestly, with the amount of talent the Braves have, it’s unacceptable to not even be making it to the postseason in back to back seasons. It’s interesting if you compare th Braves to the Falcons. With the Falcons, we’ve always questioned whether it was TD’s lack of ability to get quality talent or a lack of scheme. Well, I think that questions been addressed. But, with the Braves, it’s much of the same. Do you believe they’ve got the talent to make some noise? Or do you think Frank Wren ain’t cuttin’ it. Regardless, if I was a diehard Braves fan, I’d wanna see some household changes. No tweaks. I wanna see something happen either to the roster or to the coach. Can’t allow back to back seasons go by showing an inability to get to ‘actual playoffs’ without seeing something change…
And again, no big Brave fan here, but Chipper Jones just went out like Keith Brooking (after the infamous 3rd and 16), IMO. Dude’s error cost them 3 runs.
falcon21
October 6th, 2012
11:46 am
GO DAWGS!!! Pluck the Fighting Chickens! Sorry Unca’ Bob.
Big Lou
October 6th, 2012
1:06 pm
http://imgur.com/a/9H0Hv
Something funny to read for football fans. You will like it.
Unca' Bob
October 6th, 2012
4:00 pm
falcon21,
LOL. It’s all good my friend. I’d rather shave ‘em hairy dawgs.
Unca' Bob
October 6th, 2012
7:12 pm
Dawg fans,
First and foremost, avoid injuries. Luck to ya’.
Big Lou
October 6th, 2012
7:30 pm
Looks like another ATL team choking this weekend….
JB FALCON
October 6th, 2012
7:40 pm
UB, Dawgs, 1st, get back on the team and quite the assault, etc. charges. You can’t get hurt if you ain’t playing, but, then again, you could get shot if you don’t straghten up.
BL. looks like it. Braves, ka-plunk, Tech, choke, and the Dawgs are already behind in the first 1/4. I guess the Falcons will have to show them how it’s done.
Birdman
October 6th, 2012
8:00 pm
This is just what I thought would happen to Georgia after the way they have been playing against much lesser teams .
The Falcons will win tomorrow . They won’t let us down !! The Dawgs are getting smeared and stomped This could be a 41 0 loss easy
Unca' Bob
October 6th, 2012
8:11 pm
Clowney aint no joke.
JB FALCON
October 6th, 2012
8:14 pm
BM, you’re selling the gamecocks short. They only have 20 to go to reach that score and they got three quarters to go. Let’s see, 21 per quarter X 4 quarters = blowout!
snacktastic
October 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
BL/JB/Birdman: Certainly not what I was expecting after the local radio guys hyped up what an exciting weekend it would be for sports in ATL. Indeed, the Falcons will have to make up for it with a blowout win in DC. If the Birds can’t do it, who can?
BIG DOG
October 6th, 2012
9:00 pm
Fire this coach, if any one believe Mark Richt is a good coach, JUST DAM.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
BIG DOG
October 6th, 2012
9:01 pm
2012 OUT BACK BOWL, SMH
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Birdman
October 6th, 2012
9:16 pm
I love the person M R is .
But I think the Bulldogs have got to have better couching and recruiting if they ever want to go any where in the SEC .
After this week and Florida beating over rated LSU the Rankings otta look soothing like this .
1 Alabama
2 FSU
3 Carolina
Unca' Bob
October 6th, 2012
9:18 pm
South Carolina is quietly becoming D-line U.
Birdman
October 6th, 2012
9:20 pm
This team may be the answer to Alabama’s Nightmare.
There D is very good .
Birdman
October 6th, 2012
9:24 pm
By By Mark . The beginning to the end
Birdman
October 6th, 2012
9:26 pm
Wait
Alabama no 1
Caroline 2 sorry SW
FSU 3
Big Lou
October 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
snacktastic… no way Redskins game will be a blowout. It will be a competitive game/shootout.
Are the Falcons offense line protecting Murray? Looks like it. :p
I jest.
Birdman
October 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
I leave out once again tomorrow right after the game.
I think the Birds are gonna come out strong as I think the D will be much better as Nolen makes adjustments after last week . And I think Ryan will have another 300 plus yard game in the Air .
Look for Jones to be in better shape this week not to mention the way the media knocked him last week . Also our great TE Gonzo will be very good . Ryans fire power will be better and protection .The Birds will go to 5 and 0
JB FALCON
October 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
I think that little Sanders guy for SC could out run my dog! No, not them Dawgs, my dog, and he’s fast! The other Dawgs ain’t lookin’ good a’ tall.
Unca' Bob
October 6th, 2012
10:00 pm
JB FALCON,
I’ve made mention that Ace Sanders is a fooball player.
JB FALCON
October 6th, 2012
10:08 pm
UB, you are correct. He ain’t gonna have to eat no cold biscuits for dinner.
falcon21
October 6th, 2012
10:19 pm
Unca’ Bob, I have to humble myself here, my Dawgs got shaved. We got out coached, out played and out everythinged. I guess it is time to agree with D3 and Coop. A Mark Richt team is never prepared for a big game. Anyway, good game for you guys buddy!!!
BIG DOG
October 6th, 2012
10:32 pm
Somebody please tell me there is no curse in the city.
BIG DOG
October 6th, 2012
10:34 pm
I’m so hurt right now i forgot 2 say BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE, JUST DAM
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
BIG DOG
October 6th, 2012
10:37 pm
Braves had 12 hits and scored 3runs yesterday.
Cardinals had 6 hits and scored 6runs, SMH
Somebody please tell me there is not a curse in Atlanta Sports.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Unca' Bob
October 6th, 2012
10:40 pm
falcon21,
I don’t think anyone saw this game coming, including myself. Y’all aren’t that bad and we certainly aren’t that good.
I look forward to Sunday and the Skins. It could be very close.
I hear my pillow calling my name. Stay safe and as always, go Falcons. Night all.
BIG DOG
October 6th, 2012
10:41 pm
Falcons had the best team in NFC with homefield advantage in 2010 and was blown out at home.
Braves fans throw bottles all over field last night like there was a demon in the air whispering say throw bottles on the field, JSUT DAM.
LOOSER VILL CITY, HA
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Birdman
October 6th, 2012
11:32 pm
Yea what a bad reaction by the Braves fans . Its bad enough they get it handed to them let alone the 1st grade fans.
You will here me say this just once . Georgia will never win a championship tittle under MR . How long has he been there now. Its time for the alumni to take notes and move on.
But all hope ant lost for Atlanta. The Birds will win Tomorrow 38 to 21
Birdman
October 6th, 2012
11:41 pm
Unca’Bob
I saw this coming for the fist 4 games. Anyone who has watched them play has seen it coming to be real.
I mean lets face it they may not be tearable but they are far away from being good enough
Birdman
October 6th, 2012
11:44 pm
And SC is that good this year . I think they have a chance to go all the way
Paddy O
October 7th, 2012
12:28 am
seeing the horror of that infield fly call – called by the post season ump located in LF, i DON’T blame braves fans for venting. however, after the initial bottle toss, some knuckle heads kept tossing stuff. I thought the crew chief should have over ruled the LF ump. infield fly rule was NOT applicable in this instance – and, is designed to provide protection to the offense from shenanigans. selah.
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Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
10:12 am
Gameday versus the Redskin.
It’s raining. It’s pouring. Will this change the scoring?
This is a new test for the Falcons to play in the elements.
Wabe
October 7th, 2012
10:16 am
I feel for the fans in Atlanta, matter fact, Georgia as a whole right now. All hope to salvage this weekend from being a complete debacle of a weekend in Georgia sports rest with the Falcons now.
After watching the Braves kick off the rocky weekend with that debacle of a performance, then watching whatever that was on the field last night from UGA, GT losing, it’s up to the Falcons to right the ship. An opportunity to go 5-0 for the first time in this franchise’s history. That’s no joke.
This game won’t be easy. I’m not predicting a blowout. Hear that it’s raining in Washington. That’ll be a factor if it is. Wet field, wet ball, expect turnovers. The Redskins can run the football with Alfred Morris coming out the backfield and with RGIII’s QB keepers. I expect this to be a legitimate test for our defense, and our offense for that matter. I know the Redskins pass defense has been under criticism, but, with bad weather conditions, I’m not sure we’re gonna be able to chuck it all over the field.
I’m not sure how the defense will hold up. I expect adjustments from last week. At least I hope there are. The offense will have to carry them this week, IMO.
I’ll say 28-24. I hope we run away with it, but, that Redskins offense can move the ball. They’re scoring around 30 ppg. They’ve been in every game they’ve played. I don’t think they will necessarily slow us down with their defense, but the weather may have something to do with it. We’ll see.
Make it happen…5-0.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
10:36 am
I have the aura of confidence that I feel from the Falcons this Sunday.
They seem confident. They seem hungry. Baring injuries and mistakes, I really feel that the Falcons are going to give it their all today.
And a word from Matt Ryan:
http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/matt-ryan-message-panthers-get-f-k-off-my-field-pic-1823040/
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
10:38 am
Any questions if Matt Ryan is intense? There you go.
D3
October 7th, 2012
12:41 pm
Great Gameday Cage Family! — I’m going to go college for a minute if you don’t mind, as I see some of you did yesterday and last night. First things first………
UB — As I agreed with you this week, you were dead on about the Dawgs. They were paper tigers all the way. I didn’t think we’d win, but I sure as the hell didn’t think we’d get our tails whipped like that. By far and away, the most embarrassing and most humiliating loss in the Mark Richt Era, and that’s saying a lot. Your boys had a great game, and I’m pulling for them to win the east over those hated Gators. Great game, great coaching, and great performance. I’ll have my crow with hot sauce, pepper sauce, and a side of ranch!
What Do You Want UGA Fans? —
Look, I’m not going to go on the rant of FireMarkRicht.com or anything, because those of you who know me, know my position, which is the same way Coop feels. I’m going to lay it out like this instead. Many realistic UGA fans have lost enthusiasm a while ago because statistics paint a terrible picture since 2005. And before I start my diatribe on Richt and Dawgs, I’m going to say that Mark Richt “WAS” one of the great UGA coaches in history, and will go down that way. But that being said………..
Stat that popped up last night and I took a picture on my phone……..
Georgia Struggles vs. Teams Which Finished Season Ranked
Since 2008 — 2-14
Last 2 Years — 0-9
vs. SEC since 2008 — 0-9
vs. Top 12 since 2008 — 0-9
That stat alone is what I’ve been pointing to for the longest time and it’s simply INDEFENSIBLE……..period.
I said earlier in the year that this is as talented team that GA likely has ever had, certainly under Richt. And then you have that humiliating defeat that couldn’t have been more embarrassing. 35-7 and it could have easily been 56-0. Spurrier pulls his 1st string out and intentionally doesn’t run up the score (guess older age has softened him up a little).
Next >>>>>
D3
October 7th, 2012
12:51 pm
I could go on for days here, but I’ll just leave it at this before I switch to Falcons. What do you want as UGA fans? If you’re completely happy to win 9-10 games a year, go to a crappy bowl game (which we can’t even win anymore), than Richt is your guy and he’ll be here for 10 more years, but……….. don’t whine and complain when you never win big games and when you do play big games you get absolutely destroyed.
I think that’s what UGA, the AD, and many fans want. If so, so be it .
But if you want to compete for SEC AND NATIONAL TITLES!!!!! than it’s time to make a change, plain and simple.
That’s one reason I’ve been more juiced about the Falcons for many years. Mediocrity will not be tolerated by Arthur Blank and I appreciate that. That is the exact opposite of the Dawgs up in Athens.
D3
October 7th, 2012
12:52 pm
OK guys and gals, got some stuff to do today, so I’ll be watching on delay. I’ll probably catch up at halftime.
GO DAMN FALCONS!!!!!!!
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
12:52 pm
It’s almost game time, and I’m on the couch with the computer warmed up. Things to watch for against the Redskins.
1. The O-Line stepping it up and stopping the outside pass rush. They’ve shown they can do it in 3 of 4 games. But they couldn’t seem to run block. then last game they make good holes in the run game, and are a holy mess in pass protection. It’s not just the line, as play calls, QB play, and WR getting open and making correct blitz adjustments all factor in. But the result can’t be more of last week’s debacle.
2. Last week we looked OK against the read option, but still let Cam get free for three or four big romps. That’s about gap discipline. Somebody said it earlier, but when you pressure a running QB, it’s about more than sacks. Sacks are great, but getting the QB off his rhythm without sacrificing gap control is critical. RGIII is more likely than Cam to beat us through the air, and at least as likely to make us pay for poor gap discipline.
3. YAC. The Falcons have the ability to get a lot of YAC yards from everyone except Tony G. Yet we are in the bottom third of the league in YAC, while the Redskins are in the top 5. Redskins YAC is largely due to RGIII scrambling and getting the ball to open receivers when coverage breaks down to account for him. The Falcons won’t get YAC unless they start getting the ball in the hands of Julio, HD, and Quizz (and to a lesser extent Roddy) ON THE RIGHT KINDS OF PASS PATTERNS. Will we see more slants, crossing routes, bubble screens, and passes designed to get the playmakers the ball with room to run? Or will we continue to rely on stop routes? Ryan throws the stop routes much better than the moving routes, but for the passing game to really be high powered, we need to do a few things different.
4. Defensively, stop the YAC with great tackling. Stop the run with great tackling. Who would have thought our defensive backs (notably the corners) have been the best tackling group on the defense? The talent and ability is there and needs to be on full tilt from the start of the game.
No prediction today, other than the Falcons find a way to get to 5-0. Ugly or pretty doesn’t matter, but hopefully we will see some progress in some critical areas (OL, DL, run game).
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:01 pm
Forgot one.
5. Can Nolan confuse RGIII? Didn’t seem like we tried to confuse Cam much last week, and maybe you have to be a little more straightforward against running QB’s. But we need to see a better combination of pressure and coverage this week. The Skins don’t have the offensive weapons that Carolina has, outside of RGIII. It would be really impressive if the Falcons defense could pull off another game like they had against the Chargers.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
1:03 pm
FALCONS ROLL!
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
1:04 pm
I hope the O-line shows up ready to play, if not Matt better be ready to move like Jagger!
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:07 pm
Julio on the crossing route for the first down. Problem is MR2 threw it behind him so he didn’t have a good chance to make a bigger play.
Still the Falcons can dink the ball all day against this defense.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:12 pm
Drop by Julio again.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:13 pm
Why didn’t HD just keep running? I don’t get why he jumped for that pass.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:13 pm
Julio should have caught that deep ball. But it should have been thrown a bit more into the field of play. The a little bit of an overthrow to HD. Receivers are getting open, so it’s just a matter of time before we make them pay. O-Line stepping up so far. Let’s see how the defense does
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:15 pm
Big Lou, I wondered the same thing, but it seems like the ball got on top of him really quickly. Unlike the deep ball that Julio had to wait for.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:16 pm
Didn’t I say good tackling? Dent misses sure tackle.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
1:17 pm
WHAT A HIT!
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
1:17 pm
There’s ya boy Dent…can’t make a tackle.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
1:20 pm
It doesn’t matter if JJ had to wait or if the ball was thrown more into the field of play, it hit him on the hands.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:20 pm
Dhunt
It would have been better if he extended outwards… but whatever. That’s why he is slot.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
1:20 pm
Loving that hit by Dunta. Run D, especially Dent, looks weak. Koetter with a nice job suckering the D in with the short stuff early, JJ gotta catch that pass.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:20 pm
The defensive backs tackling, making big hits, Decoud with a great open field tackle on Morris, D-Rob with a great blitz sack, and Willie Mo with a big hit on Fred Davis to separate him from the ball. Mkaing me look like a prophet in my own time.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:22 pm
Falcon21 the problem is it didn’t hit him in the hands, it hit him in the chest and he’s got to start catching with those hands.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
1:25 pm
Absolute crap. Going three and out on this shite defense is not acceptable. Coach needs to fine every offensive player 10k for 3 and outs in this game. Offense looks timid and apathetic so far.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
1:25 pm
All I am saying is the throw was there but I get your point.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:25 pm
Gonzo is too slow for that Ryan Pass.
Let’s go D!
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:26 pm
If you saw that game break showing the deep pass by the Browns, that’s what I need to see more from MR2. Let the ball go a little earlier so your receivers can run to it, rather than losing momentum to wait for it. And throw the ball in the field of play so they aren’t always worried about making the catch and getting their feet down. It wasn’t like there was any inside coverage on Julio on that deep ball.
Two less than stellar passes by MR2 led to that 3 and out, but nice to see the special teams with Bosher big leg and Chris Owens making a good play to flip the field.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:26 pm
And again, bad tackling by Babs. got to make those plays in the backfield
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:28 pm
I’m predicting points this possession.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:29 pm
Dhunt
You really get on Matt’s case a lot.
Two passes on the first possession were on the receivers, not him.
It was a bad pass to Gonzo, though.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:30 pm
Franks running sideways for 0 yards when he had 10 yards of open space in front of him. There has to be a better option for punt returner on the roster. HD isn’t so critical to the offense that he can’t do that job.
Defense with a good three and out. D-Rob wasn’t there to defend the pass, but Skins receivers aren’t running free either.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
1:30 pm
Turner should have just kept going forward.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:32 pm
Big Lou I cal em like I see em. I think MR2 may be the best QB ever to wear a Falcons uniform. I’m sure he can win a super bowl. I also see areas of his game that could use some improvement.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:33 pm
Smart “throw-away” by Ryan on that one.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:33 pm
Like he just missed seeing Julio wide open on a crossing route and threw the ball away.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
1:35 pm
Pure garbage. Offense might as well go sit in the tands and let the cheerleaders have a shot.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:36 pm
Check the tape Big Ray. Julio was running free on the underneath cross and Ryan didn’t even glance his way. Better to throw it away than take the sack, but perhaps too focused on the primary receiver, not going through the progressions.
When was the last time we went this many possessions without any points? Washington defense isn’t that good. Need to start making the plays on offense.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:37 pm
Missed?
He was about to get hit.
QBs have progressions, and maybe he didn’t get to Julio.
Also, HD missed the block. Should have been a huge gain.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
1:37 pm
Ryan and the offense not sharp at all, they will not get a sense of urgency until the Redskins score first.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:38 pm
I was wrong…..this ain’t a shootout, it’s a defensive struggle. Interesting.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:38 pm
How did the refs miss that obvious block in the back by Redskins #71 against D-Rob? Falcons still get no respect from the officiating crews. I’m convinced that’s because we gets no respect in the national media.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:40 pm
Big Lou, HD missed a block? Or the defender recognized the play and jumped all over it. He basically had Julio in his grasp before HD was even able to get close enough to make a block. That was just a good defensive play.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
1:41 pm
We should be up at least 14 on the skins, they (skins) suck on defense.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:41 pm
Dhunt ,
And he was running to his side, looked to me like he was on his back foot…so let’s say he throws it and it gets picked off like last time. Then you’d have something different to say about how he f@cked it up.
Or maybe you’re right….and he makes the play. I don’t know. I figured better that than throw the pick because he doesn’t have his full arm/legs under him.
Hell, I’m not like you – I don’t know what Ryan should or is supposed to do on every play.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
1:42 pm
Akeem Dent trailing the play, Piling on…
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:42 pm
Meanwhile, Redskins setting us up with the run.
And Asante nearly picks that pass off.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:44 pm
Nice pressure and recovery on defense on 3rd down.
Griffin had a nice side-throw on that one. He’s the real deal, this ain’t no Cam Newton.
Now let’s get humming on offense.
Somebody get Dhunt a headset so he can tell Ryan what to do through his helmet mike….
Sorry Dhunt , but I give as good as I get, and I’m in quite the humorous mood…
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
1:44 pm
Definitely not the start I expected.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:44 pm
Good decision by Nolan to put Bierman as the spy.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:45 pm
It’s all about the defense that makes the first mistake.
My money is on the Redskins.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:46 pm
Big Ray, glad to see you’re healthy enough to be a smart azz
Looked to me like Ryan was safely in the pocket on that particular play. Not really moving until the very last second when he threw the ball up. I could be wrong, but when I saw Julio flash across, Ryan was in pat the ball mode. Can’t believe Julio is in that particular route if he’s not part of the progression.
I’m not just hard on Ryan. I’m hard on anyone in a Falcons uni who doesn’t seem to be living up to their potential.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
1:46 pm
PLEASE! experiment with Bierman in the middle!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:47 pm
That could have gotten ugly quickly.
Hell, it WAS ugly.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
1:48 pm
TG needs to play 1 more season.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:49 pm
Tony G is beasting yet again. He gets more YAC on a stick route than many guys get on slants.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:49 pm
Even I don’t know what the hell that play was supposed to be.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
1:50 pm
Worst pass he’s thrown all year.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
1:50 pm
Throwing to Hawley now? What a great gameplan. This game is hard to watch. We should be up 21-0 and instead were fricking around trying to turn linemen into receivers. I got a bad feeling this is our first loss. Terrible game plan outside of the scripted short stuff to set up the long pass. No urgency on offense just pulling plays out of a hat.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:51 pm
Dhunt ,
Well, he wasn’t the only one in that mode. I was thinking INT and thought it a risky play at the end, but he may indeed have not gotten through his progressions.
Meanwhile Ryan Kerrigan with a truly great play as the screen was set up for HD.
Awful. We have to overcome that, and quickly.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
1:51 pm
Oh boy.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
1:51 pm
DHunt, I bet you loved that!
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
1:51 pm
Ryan has thrown 3 DUMB INT’s thus far this season…none more bone-headed than that one.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:53 pm
Good news is, the defense hasn’t given up a single point. O Line hasn’t given up a single sack. This offense can’t possible stay this out of sync, and now they have to make up for a truly miserable looking series of plays (other than the Turner 5 yd run that any other RB turns into a 15 yard gain.)
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:55 pm
Screen Pass ,
I had that feeling PRIOR to this game. Redskins are just dangerous enough on both sides of the ball to beat you. A rookie QB and some injuries on defense are, to me, the only reason why they’re 2-2 coming into this game, not 3-1. They’ve not lost a game by more than a TD, if I recall correctly.
That said, our offense is sucking hind tit today. For a variety of reasons.
It’s no consolation, but rather learn these lessons now ….and that’s not saying I’m giving up on this game…just preparing myself in case, heh heh.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:56 pm
Julio looks frustrated to the point of pure MAD….make it up on the field, big fella!
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
1:56 pm
It has been a pizz poor weekend for Ga sports. I hope our Birds get it in gear!!!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:57 pm
Ryan looks like he wants to help Julio get in gear. They gotta help each other, though….can’t be a one-way thing.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:57 pm
Last two interceptions by Ryan have been to guys who probably never expect to get a pick. But since the Iceman often settles down after he makes a bad play, hopefully this is what was needed to get him back on track.
21 you must have me confused with some Falcon bandwagon troll. I’ve been down with the birds since 1970 when I was 3 years old. I’m never happy with any bad play, much less a bad play that gives up points.
If you disagree with my view of the game and the players, I welcome the input. If you trying to get a rise out of me, you wasting your time.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:57 pm
Pretty hard hit…
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:59 pm
Hmmm…Turner not in there on a 3rd and 1? This could be good…or really bad….depends on the play call, coverage, and execution.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
1:59 pm
I actually kinda liked that. It wasn’t an obvious sweep, LOL.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
1:59 pm
BR, turned out good with HD, don’t you think?
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
1:59 pm
Ball in the hands of playmakers. That’s what I want to see more of.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
“Screen Pass ,
I had that feeling PRIOR to this game. Redskins are just dangerous enough on both sides of the ball to beat you. A rookie QB and some injuries on defense are, to me, the only reason why they’re 2-2 coming into this game, not 3-1. They’ve not lost a game by more than a TD, if I recall correctly. ” – BR
The Redskins haven’t done anything to win, just a complete garbage gameplan. Instead of using screens and checkdowns as outlets Koetter is trying to be cute using them as primary plays. A good OC would have already seen they are selling out deep and covering the flats….that should leave the middle open to crossing routes.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
Didn’t like that so much. Not nearly enough blocking in the right areas. Blockers going one way, Redskins not at all fooled.
But then, this is also a 3-4 defense,….
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
Turner looking decent. Should open up the passing game soon enough.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
Great recognition by Ryan to audible to that draw play.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:01 pm
snacktastic ,
Yep! Could have even gone for more..
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
2:01 pm
Quizz taking the hit and making a play to get the first down. Outstanding.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
2:02 pm
It’s all good DHunt, not trying to get a rise out of you. I do respect you and your comments.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:03 pm
ScreenPass ,
Game ain’t over yet by a long shot…
And Redskins put up over 30 points a game…damn near equal to us, actually. So while you say they’ve done nothing to win…my point is that they are POTENT.
I understand what you’re saying about our gameplan. Chill dude, I’m not arguing with you…I’m just not as angry as you are…yet….
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
2:04 pm
Time for the defense to give us a bit of momentum.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
2:05 pm
Get’s a little cold and damp outside…Just enough for Ryan to start nutting-up.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
2:05 pm
This is just a joke now. Sorry guys, I watch football…when the Falcons learn to play some I’ll be back. Fricking bowling is better than this crap they came to shovel today.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:05 pm
This is getting uglier. Ryan drops the snap? Couldn’t see the replay and tell if it was Ryan dropping it, a bad snap by McClure, or what.
All I know is we stalled our own drive and gave them the ball back. And that really sucks, because we may have used up our temporary supply of comebacks LAST week.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:06 pm
Well leave if you have to…better than destroying your computer or television, LOL
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
2:06 pm
Two big mistakes from a team that doesn’t make these kinds of mistakes. If we can overcome this last one with some good defense. We seemed to be picking up the tempo on offense
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:07 pm
An almost sack by “almost” Ray Edwards is then followed up by piss poor tackling. WTF….
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:08 pm
Dhunt ,
I don’t know. Redskins with some serious offensive momentum now. Defense has to make a play.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
Heck of a play by the Bier Truck….ad that was with him being held, too.
Biermann >>> Ray Edwards…all day every day…
And dang…..they MISSED THE FG! Talk about a break….wow…
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
No good! Lucky break.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
Well, defense made a play and Billy Cundiff whiffs…Gotta tie things up…no excuses….given a break.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:13 pm
Game isn’t over yet.
Offenses have bad possessions, too. Let’s see if the Falcons can get things going!
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
2:13 pm
Bad buisness when your MLB is trailing on almost every run play thus far. I don’t know what the answer is…Dent is the wrong one.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:15 pm
That’s more like it. Nice pass to HD…and HD gets the feet down. Julio needs to be watching that…
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:16 pm
Good Lord, heck of a play by Julio…and damn near a TD a play later.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:17 pm
Look at Julio fight for yardage. I love that. Keep fighting, you’ll break through eventually!
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:18 pm
Tie this game up. Be in good shape.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:19 pm
Note – Ryan VERY accurate on this drive, even the deep pass to Julio…would’ve been a TD if not for the extra DB making a play on the ball as they were falling.
Ryan like a laser beam in this hurry up offense.
If you ask me, that’s a TD….but I’m a Falcons fan, after all…
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:20 pm
Big Ray
It’s not a touchdown, but it looks like Matt/DK is figuring the defense out.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
2:21 pm
This is why I can take a drop every now and then from Julio. Because he will make plays that nobody else can make.
Great effort by Tony G yet again. Should have drafted him in all my fantasy leagues. That’s a Touchdown. Where’s the goal line camera to show where the ball was relative to the line when the elbow touched?
Doesn’t matter. We can run off another 20 secs trying to blast MT33 in for the touchdown.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:21 pm
Have a hard time defending Akeem Dent. I know he needs some seasoning, but if this is the guy the CS wanted to win the starting MLB job over the previously uninjured Tatupu, I can’t see it happening.
Again, I could be jumping the gun, but I see nothing that gets me excited. Seriously.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
2:22 pm
TD TG!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:22 pm
OMG…come ON….tell me that flag isn’t on us…
YES, TD!
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:23 pm
Great call by DK!
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
2:23 pm
“Well leave if you have to…better than destroying your computer or television, LOL” – BR
Just been a bad weekend
. Took a breather lol. Notice when we go hurry up we move right up the field, no bullspit. We need to stay in the hurry up until we have 21 point leads…no if, ands, or buts. The routes Koetter is using need some tweaking for sure. That play to JJ in the endzone ended up with triple covered fter the othe route cut to a shallow out. If he attacks the seam there it is wide open or the safety cannot go help with JJ. Terrible combos by Koetter in alot of the route trees I’ve seen.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:24 pm
Dhunt ,
Agreed wholeheartedly on Julio.
And that was a great play call. Faked to MT33 and go to your money man.
We’ll never be able to replace TG88…we can only hope to get a guy with half his talent at some point.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
2:24 pm
Damn Tony G is some kind of special. That’s the offense we can run all day against the Skins. Give the defense a little rest and they can stop RGIII, and figure out a way to stop that 7th round draft pick running back, Morris.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
2:24 pm
Watch the halftime adjustments. We’ll have them on the ropes in the third quarter.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
2:27 pm
NO WAY we are this bad against the run. Somebody on that defensive front seven needs to step up and make a play. Babs keeps putting his hands on Morris in the backfield but not making plays. And where oh where is Peria?
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:27 pm
SP ,
I understand, bro’. We all have those.
Yeah, the no huddle is how we slice guys up.
I’ll say this for Koetter – the adjustment was made, as slight as it may have been, and we marched right down the field. Gotta give credit to all of our guys for that one.
Koetter’s routes DO need tweaking. But I’ll take in-game adjustments and lessons along the way if it yields bigger wins down the road, if you know what I mean. You don’t learn anything by being perfect…
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
2:28 pm
And just when I get on his butt, Babs makes the play in the backfield. This first half could have gotten way out of control.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:28 pm
I hope people are paying attention and noticing Dent isn’t on the field on both those run plays.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:30 pm
Dhunt ,
One thing about Morris – he’s done that to every team they’ve played, so it ain’t just us. Dude is 5th in the League in rushing. Nobody saw it coming.
On the other hand, you have our run defense pegged…it’s the DTs…Babs isn’t as good as he has been in the past, and Jerry is simply not good. He gets some penetration every now and again, but we are missing Corey Peters.
I say play Vance Walker as a starter…and let Jerry be the backup. We need another DT, but I felt that way in the draft….I can’t wait for the development of that brutishly strong youngster we have on the bench…Mr. Travian Robertson.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
2:30 pm
Won’t be online much for 2nd half, but will be back this evening for the recap.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:31 pm
Big Lou ,
You’re right…unfortunately, that is Dent’s only saving grace at the moment.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:36 pm
I think the Falcons should feel good about themselves.
They tied a game that should have been way worse than it is. Also, the defense has been impressive so far with holding RG3. As I stated previously, Mike Nolan is going more vanilla with situational blitzes. Makes sense, since RG3 is one of the top QBs against it.
Defense gets a stop here, I think that the Falcons will get the lead. Matt Ryan has settled down.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
2:41 pm
“I’ll say this for Koetter – the adjustment was made, as slight as it may have been, and we marched right down the field. Gotta give credit to all of our guys for that one.
Koetter’s routes DO need tweaking. But I’ll take in-game adjustments and lessons along the way if it yields bigger wins down the road, if you know what I mean. You don’t learn anything by being perfect…” – BR
He is better than MM…not sure that alone is a compliment tho lol. His offense has alot of organic variety but it can be “disjointed” in that it attacks one way at a time. We never seem to fool anybody..runs and screens are being telegraphed somehow, really need to work on blending those better. Skins are playing a BVG type defense and we all know that most teams had no problem carving that up. Hopefully Koetter will see the donut hole and stick something in it
.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
2:41 pm
Well we gave the Redskins their chance, now it is time to take over this game.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
2:42 pm
32 passes in the first half is too many for the amount of points we got out of them, but at least we shut their offense out.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:43 pm
Dang….RG III just does escapes that blitz….Damn
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:44 pm
Don’t know about y’all, but there seems to be a difference in our run defense when Vance Walker is in the game. Evidenced on those last two plays where Morris was carrying the ball…
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:45 pm
Both plays were good stops.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:45 pm
Dammit…close to a first down
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:46 pm
Lol
Spoon
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:46 pm
Awesome third down stop.
Vance Walker and Sean Weatherspoon….
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:46 pm
Great one there, Franks…
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:47 pm
Franks is going to lose his job soon.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
2:47 pm
Franks has done ticked me off now.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:47 pm
Gotta be careful here…yet aggressive…need to get the hell out of this territory, Redskins will be looking to make a play and either score or get their offense in great position to do so.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:48 pm
Well, time to put up or shut up.
Let’s do the dang thing, Falcon O!
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
2:48 pm
Big Ray, maybe Walker has finally gotten out of Mike Smiths dog house. Dude plays well when in the game.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:50 pm
BS…he had a hand in Julio’s facemask.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
2:50 pm
Even I knew he’d go to Tony G on that one. Not the best play call.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:51 pm
How the @&$” is that not interference? He didn’t look at the ball!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:51 pm
Did not like that play, it was set to fail. Like this drive.
WTF, man.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:52 pm
Wow…
I still can’t believe that’s not… whatever man.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:52 pm
Redskins got away with PI….dude didn’t have his head turned around or anything, fingers all inside Julio’s helmet, elbow on his chest, everything….that was a blown call, don’t care what anybody says.
D3
October 7th, 2012
2:52 pm
All caught up on DVR…………… in short: meh
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:53 pm
This game is looking rigged.
Bad calls all game.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:53 pm
I’m still mad about that call. STILL mad.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:54 pm
They better give us that one…they just blew the PI call….
D3
October 7th, 2012
2:54 pm
Good football play my @ss…………if nothing else, it was face-guarding. BS
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:54 pm
That better be a fumble!
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
2:55 pm
Ball was coming loose before he hit the ground. It shouldn’t be overturned.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:57 pm
F@ck these refs. Give them two straight calls like that.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
2:58 pm
Bull shet call!
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
2:58 pm
What is up with guy hitting JJ in the face? How is not not called….
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:58 pm
Now we have two bad calls to overcome along with our own gaffes.
D3
October 7th, 2012
2:58 pm
Hadn’t had a chance to catch up on the comments just yet, but I’m going to go ahead and eat some crow…….
Akeem Dent is looking BAD! at MLB. I tried my best to defend my former Dawg, but he’s looking bad. Hopefully, he can get better, but he gets blocked as easy as the Dawgs did last night. I’m all on board to put either Bier or Spoon at MLB and move Bier to ILB or OLB permanently. We have plenty of DE’s, but we just are very weak with our MLB play.
Still not saying we should have kept Lofton for that price, but it’s an area that needs addressing immediately.
D3
October 7th, 2012
2:59 pm
Yeah, that was a bad call I thought. It definitely was a catch. He made a football move with it. BS
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
2:59 pm
And then they get the 1st down call on top of that.
Wow. Nice second half home cooking.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:01 pm
Dent is horrible. Hell, he just overran that play.
Good save by Babs.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:01 pm
Lineman just pulled down a linebacker on that run.
No call.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
3:01 pm
There’s that #52 again. He SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:01 pm
BL — saw that too. I think it was DeCoud
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:02 pm
SWEET hit by Weatherspoon.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:02 pm
SOMEBODY — he is a Mark Richt coached player, after all.
SPOON JUST LAID THE WOOD TO RG3, WELCOME TO THE NFL ROOK!
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:02 pm
Yes, not only is spoon easily blocked, but he is just no hesitant even when not blocked. God hit.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:03 pm
That’s what you get for running against the Falcons.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:03 pm
Nice hold.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:03 pm
LOL…but Cundiff’s nuts are sweating….
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:04 pm
This game is playing right into the Skins hands right now.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:04 pm
ATL fans chanting “choke”. Now that’s funny.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:05 pm
MB — you must mean Dent, not Spoon.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
3:05 pm
Welcome to the NFL young man. you got Spooned!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:05 pm
Matty Bicep ,
Spoon is easily blocked? That’s strange, because he’s leading us in tackles today and has a sack as well.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:05 pm
Good job holding 3 on that…
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
3:05 pm
Welcome to the real NFL mister RG3PO…enjoy those smelling salts. Can’t believe we are losing this game. If we don’t use the no huddle on this drive Imma have to fly up toDC and beat Koetter with a bat.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:06 pm
No spoon, meant to say dent.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:06 pm
You’re dead on about the holding “no call” though…it was awful.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
3:06 pm
It’ll surprise the Hell out of me if RG3 returns. If I read his lips correctly, he was refering to one of the trainers as Mommy…
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:07 pm
Matty Bicep ,
Whew…I thought you were smellin’ them BAD bath salts for a minute there, LOL
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:08 pm
D3
I think this is playing into the Falcons hand to be honest.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:08 pm
WTF are we throwing to Joe Hawley?
JJ
October 7th, 2012
3:08 pm
Playcalling sukkks today!!!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:09 pm
Why in the f@ck are we throwing to a Center?
Screen Pass ,
I’m firing up the truck….bring all the bats you have…we have a beatdown to administer.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:10 pm
We got Gonzo, JJ, white, HD and we are calling plays to Hawley? OK, we got vindicated.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:10 pm
What in the hell with this OL-as-extra-TE BS? That’s 3rd time a big OL has gone out for a pass.
Ridiculous. That’s some Malarkey type sh!t.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:11 pm
Mularkey sent in a clone and stole Koetter’s body. That must be it.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:12 pm
Mattural doing his RG3 impersonation. Lol
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:12 pm
Thought Ryan was gone/down for a second there. But he gets away and gets the 1st down.
HD falls down on that play/gets knocked down. That didn’t help.
Then the pass is too tall for Quizz…pass must’ve been 5′10″ high….
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:12 pm
Another drop…………………..C’mon Quizz.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:13 pm
RG done for the day.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:13 pm
Good. Keep hitting them hard. REAL HARD.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:14 pm
Seems like we are stuck in the mud.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:15 pm
Terrible playcall.
Go for it dammit.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:15 pm
We need to score here. We need to change the momentum!
Also,
Ryan has passed a whole lot more than made run plays, just saying.
Just bad execution by the offense. Put emotions aside.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:16 pm
Some of the sh!ttiest blocking I’ve seen and a horrible play call.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:16 pm
Weak, weak, weak, weak.
We are looking less and less elite by the quarter
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:16 pm
Thought about going for it to, but we are only down 3, and I don’t want to give Kirk Cousins anything cheap.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:16 pm
Looks like we’re going to have to win another one ugly.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:17 pm
I hope Nolan has a Cousins blitz package.
JJ
October 7th, 2012
3:18 pm
Way to man up D!!!
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
3:18 pm
Nice Defense!!!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:18 pm
Big Lou ,
We do need to run more…but with runs like the last couple, we aren’t going to get down the field.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:18 pm
Bad punt, good field position for the Birds. Time to take advantage.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:19 pm
There ya go, right back where we were…Gotta play this game different with Cousins in there.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:19 pm
Defense did it’s thing. Offense MUST take advantage.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
3:19 pm
“Screen Pass ,
I’m firing up the truck….bring all the bats you have…we have a beatdown to administer.” – BR
This moron is really showing his arse today. There better be a vat of boiling tar and alot of pillows waiting at the Branch. We have been laughing at the Jaguars for taking MM but now we are seeing why they were laghing at us for taking Cooter. SMH, this pinhead lost this game badly for us today.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:20 pm
O-line with good blocking, help from Turner, Ryan keeps his feet…Roddy comes back to the ball…a bunch of Redskins worried sick about Julio…
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:20 pm
5 drops.
Let’s cool it before blaming the OC.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:22 pm
Lol
Matt Ryan has thrown the ball almost three more times than we ran it. We can’t help that people are dropping passes!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:22 pm
Have to give Redskins credit, they are playing us tight, but our no huddle showed exactly how we could beat them..so I’m confused as to why we’re struggling so bad. Except for the fact that we can’t seem to run the ball and appear to be done trying it.
Of course, our run blocking isn’t anything to get excited about, either.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:22 pm
One really good screen catch and run from Turner does not a good receiving back make.
If I see Mark Richt’s stupid @ss grinning on “Georgia Saturdays Built Ford Tough” commercial again, I may throw my laptop through the TV.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:23 pm
Big Lou is right….we are dropping passes left and right. Quizz has one, Turner (big surprise), and so on.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:23 pm
When you have to bring in an extra OL as a TE like THE WHOLE GAME, there may be an issue with your offensive line.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:23 pm
Quizz makes up with it with a HELL of a move.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:24 pm
Yea, Turner does look pretty lame trying to catch the ball out of the backfield.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:24 pm
Finally, good play by Quizz, was starting to lose confidence in him a touch.
Still say in 2013…………
1st round – CB
2nd round – RB
3rd round – LB
4th round – DT
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:24 pm
Turner is just NOT the guy for this offense when it comes to dumping it off to the RB.
Of course, SP called THAT one a year ago…
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
JULIOOOOOO!
JJ
October 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
Why the F are we not calling some crossing routes, skinny posts? it’s been wideopen all day plus YAC. This dink and dunk shite is ridiculous. Worst playcalling BY FAR this year by cooter!!!
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
What a catch. TD
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
There’s the JJ we all know and love.
HEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
uga_b
October 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
SILK
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
Julio!!!!
Haters gonna hate!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
I doe believe Julio got both feet down that time.
And talk about a laser beam-accurate throw…WOW.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:26 pm
I just was Green catch a TD and was thinking as much as I love JJ…Then TD.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:26 pm
Just think, that’s a 2nd year man out of a run-dominated college program….
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:26 pm
Nice drive. Especially nice Matt Ryan keeping a few plays alive. If we’re going to play the dump off to RB game, can we put Quizz and Snell in the game MORE OFTEN!!!!!!!!!!
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:26 pm
AJ Green caught a pass 30 seconds earlier.
Greg Mendel
October 7th, 2012
3:27 pm
Here’s where the Defense goes wild. I hope.
uga_b
October 7th, 2012
3:27 pm
BR, just think how good Hawley will be in year 2!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:27 pm
Matty Bicep ,
LOL….can’t blame ya, AJ is a singular talent. But I likes me some Julio. Just think, he’s not even as polished as AJ is.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:28 pm
I’m just saying. All the negativity to the OC is just emotions talking. There were many plays that we’re called that would have been huge gains if players did their jobs.
Passing: 45 plays
Running: 17 plays
Come on, man!
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
3:28 pm
Finally something to be happy about. The fact we didn’t put 41 points or more on this crappy defense is a loss even if our defense has bailed us out for a win on the scoreboard. This Hawley pass-catching and needing 8 linemen to block a 4 man passive rush needs to go asap.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:28 pm
Greg, the D will take it to Cousins. Bank on it.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:28 pm
uga b ,
LOL….you crazy a$$…yeah but at WHAT is the question.
I’m still going to pay good gas money to drive Screen Pass to the Branch so he can try his new 9 iron on Koetter’s noggin…just sayin’…
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:29 pm
Dunta Robinson has really grown on me. LOVE his hits.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
M-Pete 53 sighting, in there WITH Dent. Interesting.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
BR, was funny, I saw green catch the pass and for a second I thought about what would have happened if Cincy took JJ….then JJ makes me feel guilty….I LOVE YOU JJ….But Green is special too.
JJ
October 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
Nice hit asante!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
Methinks somebody was thinking about being hit on that pass…LOL.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:31 pm
BR — Man, you got it. I really think he’s well this year.
Garcon was wide open on that one. Yi
Greg Mendel
October 7th, 2012
3:31 pm
Well, snacktastic, maybe not.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:31 pm
Hmm, somebody had to screw up somewhere. I do love the NFL.
JJ
October 7th, 2012
3:31 pm
Spoke too soon,fkkkkkkkkkkkk!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:31 pm
We just let Kirk Cousins jig us in the arse.
Coverage was nowhere near him. I’m beyond disgusted.
uga_b
October 7th, 2012
3:31 pm
Yikes
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:31 pm
ARE YOU FRACKIN’ KIDDING ME????????????
Kirk Cousins – 77 yard TD pass. What a joke.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
We need to blitz this guy. Why we are playing vanilla against him is beyond me.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
“Maybe not” indeed. Good grief, that was terrible.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
He just ran right thru the defense! All the defenders just stopped and looked at him…
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
OK, bail us out again Matt Ryan.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:33 pm
It was a heck of a pass…
uga_b
October 7th, 2012
3:33 pm
I saw enough of this crap last night
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:33 pm
That was poor discipline by the secondary. They were taking Cousins likely. Mike Nolan is probably yell in some ears right now.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:34 pm
3rd and frackin’ long + kirk cousins first playing time + ready to get ball back and end it = 77 yard TD pass.
DeCoud and Moore just gagged it on that one.
Oh yeah, and no pressure to boot.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:34 pm
I’m so mad right now. WTF
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
uga_b —- no lie. we know Cousins very well. Remember Michigan State in bowl game……another loss.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
OH now they want to call a penalty. Frikkin’ refs.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
Why do we make rookie backup QBs look so good? It is some sort of DNA thing?
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:36 pm
I’m not even going to be objective on Turner………..I’m ready to move on.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
3:36 pm
Our franchise (defense) is known for making 2nd-3rd string QB’s look probowl
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
Nevermind. I’ll have my crow with a side of blue cheese.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
Damn fine running by Turner. We needed this.
And dangerous pass….Ryan throws into triple coverage.
JJ
October 7th, 2012
3:38 pm
INTERFERENCE
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:38 pm
Ouch. Got lucky..Deangelo dancing on a missed pick. Love it
LRD
October 7th, 2012
3:38 pm
what up cage.. just go home, turned on teh game.. and WTH??? 2nd string QB making us look bad?
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:38 pm
Atta boy HD. He’s had a nice game today.
uga_b
October 7th, 2012
3:38 pm
HD has really slotted in well this year
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:38 pm
Wow…what a bullet by Ryan.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:39 pm
HD and TG keeping the passing game alive.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:39 pm
Ryan is on it right now…he’s hot. Need another TD.
OL with great protection, I have not been giving them enough credit.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:39 pm
lrd — just kind of a meh game. We had shut him down up until that one pass. Defense playing pretty good except that play.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:40 pm
And as I say that, they give up a sack.
I should keep my mouth shut.
uga_b
October 7th, 2012
3:40 pm
Tickle Pile
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:40 pm
I knew our trip throught the NFC east was going to be a dogfight.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:41 pm
GD-it. Pass tipped. FRACK…
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:41 pm
and there’s your sack. That’s what happens when you CONTINUE TO PUT IN AN EXTRA OL IN AS A 3RD TE. So done with that sh!t.
LRD
October 7th, 2012
3:41 pm
WOW…. money
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:41 pm
We need ya Bryant….don’t pull a Cundiff…
YOU ARE THE MAN..
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:42 pm
There’s MATTY ICE #2!
Dude, Matt Bryant must have hit the fountain of youth over the summer.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:42 pm
D3 , I’m afraid you’re right on that.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:42 pm
Automatic. I’d rather we have gone for in on 4th, but it’s good to have Matt Bryant in your back pocket.
uga_b
October 7th, 2012
3:42 pm
Simply incredible.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:43 pm
Boy is this guy on a roll. Where did we find Bryant? How was he on the street? 53 at RFK is a tough fieldgoal.
Greg Mendel
October 7th, 2012
3:43 pm
Here’s when the Defense BETTER go wild.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
3:44 pm
Matt Bryant is gold.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:44 pm
Nice tackle Bosher.
OK D, time to get some revenge on that embarrassment. FIRST CAREER TD, REMEMBER!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
Somebody buy Matt Bosher a steak. A big one. With a loaded potato. Sauteed onions and mushrooms on the side. House Salad, ranch dressing. Sautee some shrimp, too.
Because some DOUCHEBAG missed a tackle on that return and there was a LOT of real estate open for the runner.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
I doubt the defense will get burned again. Mike Nolan is gonna have some heads if they get points again.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
MB — the Bucs cut him after he came back from an injury, if I can remember correctly.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
This is exactly why some of us didn’t want Koetter. Nearly a decade in the NFL and he still hasn’t learned to beat simple defenses. You can expect BVG prevent defense from here to eternity and I bet this numbskull will still be running the exact same plays from his college glory days. 3rd and 14? No problem, I’ll take TG off the field and put Hawley in at TE…no one will ever believe my genius!!!!
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:46 pm
SP — the only thing I can think of is that Clabo is that bad, but in that case REPLACE HIS @SS.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:47 pm
Gotta force a mistake.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:48 pm
watch fake punt here.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:48 pm
Good heads up play by Bier. No one touched him.
Bier with a huge play again. I finally and completely agree with SW…… PUT BIER @ LB NOW!!!!
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:49 pm
Franks sucks!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:49 pm
Franks is back in my doghouse.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
We’re gonna win this game…but we shouldn’t get upset when the pundits sh!t on us. NO REASON! NO RESON! We should have allowed that TD to the 2nd stringer.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
Julio picked today to have his comeback. No one on him that time.
JJ
October 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
Julio
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
Offense heating up big time. Finally found the seam and got Julio on a nice move.
Love it. Let’s punch this in.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
Franks hung onto the ball….CS must be reading this blog, screen to snelling.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
Somebody, seconded. Two ugly games in a row.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
Beautiful route, play call, catch, and throw.
Nice playcall there ya’ll.
Good play to Snelling. Still think he should get more of Turner’s touches.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
BURNER!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:53 pm
YYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:53 pm
Stop crying, folks! Go get a napkin.
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:53 pm
I JUST KEEP HATIN’ ON TURNER AND HE JUST KEEPS EMBARRASSING MY STUPID @SS!!!!!
HELL YEAH!
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:54 pm
YEAHHH BABY YEEAAAAHHHHHH!
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:54 pm
Time to put this one away.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
3:55 pm
Somebody
People are more critical than they have to be. We should be happy about our D showing up.
JJ
October 7th, 2012
3:56 pm
Record all the games and this will be the first one ERASED. But ill take an ugly W anyday!
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
I knew it was coming….
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
That was a good play call, solid damn blocking, great running by Turner.
We got it when we needed it.
Been saying for a while that Turner is more of a 4th quarter runner these days. He gave us the goods, that’s for sure.
Redskins didn’t know WHAT to do. They collapsed on Turner, that got Julio open, Ryan hits him. They collapsed on our WRs, Turner runs free without two extra men in the box.
Gotta love it.
Koetter may escape that beating yet…maybe…still can’t explain throwing to Hawley and even Big Lou can’t jerk our chains enough to dissuade us, LOL.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
PICK! DR, player of the game!
JJ
October 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
Way to go Dunta, ballgame. First time 5-0!!!
D3
October 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
Now look, I’m not trying to defend Nolan and the D on Cousins, but it is a huge 180 turn when you prepare for someone like RG3 who can beat you with both the run and pass (and coming off the game vs. (s)Cam)………
and before I could finish typing, you have your game saving INT.
13th takeaway of the year.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:00 pm
People are more critical than they have to be. We should be happy about our D showing up.
LOL…you say that, yet you CANNOT stop criticizing the criticism of others….LOL…I ain’t mad at ya, but I have to laugh big boy…
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
4:01 pm
Agree turner can look bad, but when you keep giving him the ball, he does wear them out, and when he gets going, nobody want to tackle
D3
October 7th, 2012
4:02 pm
D@mn ya’ll, you couldn’t get one first down?
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
4:02 pm
Give it up for Nolan!!!
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
on that TD, turner go the hold, but once he got going, nobody wanted to stand in front of him.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
Big Ray
Lol
You know I like poking fun. But, you have to admit, there is a lot of knee jerks/emotional statements.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
PICKED AGAIN!
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
4:04 pm
Lay down on the ground.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
4:04 pm
5-0! We get the Raiders before the Bye at home…prolly will be 6-0 to start the bye. Couldn’t come at a better time. We get Corey back, corrects some things on offense/defense…give Dent a one-way greyhound ticket out of town…train Bierman at MLB. Just my opinion…
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:04 pm
Another pick! It’s destiny baby, it’s destiny (says in his best Dick Vitale voice imitation)…
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
4:05 pm
5-0!
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
4:05 pm
JJ with one hell of a game! Good win Birds against another pretty good team! 5 and 0 baby!!!
D3
October 7th, 2012
4:05 pm
Check that…………… 14th takeaway of the year.
And thank the Lord, can we stop with the “All Georgia Team Worst Sports Weekend in History” whining and crying BS. Chrissake.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:07 pm
Big Lou ,
Oh, all the time bro’, all the time. I’d be a hypocrite of global proportions to claim otherwise.
At least we’re shouting across the aisle at each other on this 5-0 train!
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
4:08 pm
Colts staying with the Pack in the 4th? Insane.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:08 pm
Wow…does Indy really have GB on the ropes?
D3
October 7th, 2012
4:09 pm
SOMEBODY — you got it. Even as a rabid Dawgs fan, I can no longer defend Dent. I don’t want to give up on him just yet, because he did have Mark Richt and Willie Martinez as his coaches, went from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and back to 4-3 (under BVG) and more to a hybrid under Nolan. I admit he looked B-A-D, B-A-D, B-A-D, but not sure he was ready to start yet anyway. That’s why they signed Lofa Tatupu.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:09 pm
Turner’s yardage very pedestrian overall, but man has he ever revealed himself to be a 4th quarter RB. Pounded the dog snot out of the Redskins as the last quarter wore on. Beat them with a TD.
And as I type this, Aaron Rodgers gets nailed or a sack by the Colts.
D3
October 7th, 2012
4:10 pm
Oh yeah, and Philly and Michael Pick lose again………Pick with two fumbles. Too bad Vick’s middle name doesn’t rhyme with rumble or fumble.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:11 pm
OMG…they got him AGAIN.
We know what we gotta do against the Packers, guys. Pressure, pressure, pressure.
Green Bay can’t protect Rodgers….and the Colts are exposing that, of all teams.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 7th, 2012
4:11 pm
Not feeling too bad about our game…Colts are going to hand Rogers and the pack their azz!
JJ
October 7th, 2012
4:12 pm
How did Franks get on the colts? Need HD to return punts but a w is a W, 5-0 baby!!!
D3
October 7th, 2012
4:12 pm
And get ready for the pundits to say “well, if RG3 hadn’t got hurt……yada, yada, yada.” And there’s several points to respond to:
1) That’s the risk you have when you have a running QB.
2) Our defense, specifically Spoon, put a good ol’ wood-layin’ smack down on him.
3) Our defense already was holding him right in check. At halftime, he was 6 for 10 for like 70 something yards.
So GFY!
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
4:13 pm
“Gotta love it.
Koetter may escape that beating yet…maybe…still can’t explain throwing to Hawley and even Big Lou can’t jerk our chains enough to dissuade us, LOL.” – BR
Lol, I’m still in GRRRRRR!!! mode. I’ll settle for his head on a pike for now…burning and torturing he may have escaped this time. There is still no damn excuse for trying to be cute all game. When we get a few scores lead, then sure experiment a little and give DC’s something to think about, but not when the game is in easy reach.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
4:14 pm
I can’t figure out the NFC East. Just keeping my fingers crossed and hoping we clean up our play after the bye.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
4:15 pm
Those two sacks on Rogers were what’s called “discount double check.”
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
4:15 pm
D3, totally agree.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
4:17 pm
Big Ray
Of course, I am not a homer enough to say there isn’t flaws. But, I understand that offenses have bad games like the defense. I also understand that player execution was the issue more than the play calling. I do not need to insult anyone to say that.
6 drops.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
4:17 pm
CBS crew saying it’s on RG3 for not getting out of bounds, so maybe the pundits will cut Spoon some slack.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:19 pm
I don’t know if it’s justified or not, but the criticism on Dent is hard to shake.
I get that he’s not on the field much…but that justifies his lack of stats…ONLY.
It doesn’t justify how he plays when he IS in there, which is pedestrian…and sometimes less so. I’m not impressed with him, and it’s not like the MLB is not a staple of the Mike Nolan defense….
Saying that Dent isn’t on the field much means he can’t be blamed for a lot of things, but it also kinda implicates him. If he’s not on the field much, there’s a reason why ….
So I don’t know that I can label him a bust, but we did pick him up in the third round….albeit before we knew Nolan was coming to town.
Not easy to say which way we should go with this, but we have plenty of time. However, if we move to a 3-4 defense, Dent will either have an easier time of things or a much harder time of them. Such a change might actually help him, who knows. It might help him get on the field …
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:22 pm
Big Lou ,
I hear ya bro, no insults coming from me either, I generally enjoy your candor. If you get under my skin, then I probably had it coming, LOL.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
4:24 pm
“It doesn’t justify how he plays when he IS in there, which is pedestrian…and sometimes less so. I’m not impressed with him, and it’s not like the MLB is not a staple of the Mike Nolan defense….” – BR
I’ve shied away from the Dent thing being from GT it would only lead to friction. Dent has been in the wrong place, looking totally lost just about every play I’ve seen him in. Spoon had a learning curve and wasn’t so hot with reads and responsibilities at first, but even he was so totally lost as Dent.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:24 pm
Screen Pass ,
Agreed wholeheartedly.
I cannot think of an explanation that will suffice for those throws to Joe Hawley. Some of the other plays were ill-timed and Koetter has already admitted to making some mistakes along those lines, but damn….no explanation for some of it.
I’m so happy for the win that I can’t stay mad right now, but I will say this – I don’t want to be worrying about more insanity like that later. We got away with it this time, partially because we knocked RG III out of the game.
There need not be a next time.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
4:25 pm
D3
Dent was technically not play MLB because in his plays, he was playing the whole right side(they had Weatherspoon/Nicholas on the line or in coverage. It’s hard for somebody to learn 46–which most plays I saw were. You go from guarding a gap, maybe two.. to the whole right side.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
4:26 pm
Big Ray was actually the focus of that response.
LRD
October 7th, 2012
4:26 pm
5-0.. great way to start the week
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
4:28 pm
“Of course, I am not a homer enough to say there isn’t flaws. But, I understand that offenses have bad games like the defense. I also understand that player execution was the issue more than the play calling. I do not need to insult anyone to say that.
6 drops.” – BL
Meh, if you think 6 drops out of 50+ called passes is the reason for all of our offenses woes…the only person you are potentially insulting is you. The drops didn’t help but continuing to try going verticle against a defense SPECIFICALLY designed to take that aspect of the game away is the exact same as dumbarse MM running into stacked boxes.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
4:28 pm
Cant call Dent a MLB, when most plays there are only two LBs in the back field.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:28 pm
I’ll also say this before departing for a bit…..
This was not an “escape” win. We earned it. The win against Carolina was a true escape because they SHOULD have won that game, and would have if not for that fortuitous (for us) fumble by Mr. Wannabe Superman…which was the perfect lesson in humility for him.
THIS game? Despite our numeous gaffes, we still TOOK that game. Even if RG III was still in the game, we had what it took to take that game, and were in a position to do so. RG III just may not have gotten picked off TWICE in the waning minutes….but once is all it would have taken…
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
4:32 pm
SP
There you go with the insults. I am not going to play your game. It wasn’t only 6 drop passes. It was also two turnovers, a few bad throws, and a couple bad routes. If you want to blame a coach for that, go ahead. But nothing from this play calling was vanilla.
Hard for an offense to get in sync, when execution is bad. Call me whatever you want and try to make it look like you’re the all knowing Guru. I just understand to look at thing objectively.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:32 pm
Big Lou,
If it’s a learning curve thing, I get ya. I still think the kid is lost, but I’m not quite ready to bail on a 3rd round pick whom we have time to work with.
I just have no reason to be impressed with him right now, is all. That’s why I say it’s darn hard to defend him…got nothing to work with other than “potential”…and we all know that’s French for “ain’t done sh!t yet”, LOL.
I don’t want the guy fired…you don’t do that to draft picks that high, especially if your new DC hasn’t told you he’s a hopeless cause yet. If Nolan had said this, that would be different. We’ll see how it goes.
In the meantime, we DO need some help at DT. Ready to see Corey Peters back in there….
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
4:33 pm
BR, good points. Redskins had the chance to win in the end, but Cousins threw two picks. We definitely earned this one.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:34 pm
And I’ll leave the fisticuffs for others….catch y’all later…damn near reinjured myself between celebrations and rants, LOL.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
4:35 pm
Big Ray
I agree. This win AWAY was earned. Great defensive effort. I am impressed with the franchise’s first 5-0 start ever. Take care Big guy. Get some much deserved rest!
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
4:35 pm
“I cannot think of an explanation that will suffice for those throws to Joe Hawley. Some of the other plays were ill-timed and Koetter has already admitted to making some mistakes along those lines, but damn….no explanation for some of it. ” – BR
Think of it like when BVG was our DC. That defense is designed to take away deep and keep things in front. The key is to do like the Taints and drag a WR/TE across the middle after the deeper routes clear out and engage. There is almost always a “donut hole” created which leads to those easy pitch and catches like to Graham. There are a few other things, but you don’t do we did most of the game which is throw into triple coverage and toss screens when the LBs clearly were not out of position. HD and TG should have feasted today with even the likes of Cone used instead of that Hawey nonsense.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
4:36 pm
Watching postgame stuff in the locker room with Mike Smith.
I do like his fous. He gave the guys Monday and Tuesday off…he definitely recognized some issues in that game and will be looking to fix them.
He’s right though, the team kept their focus and dialed it in at the end.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
4:42 pm
In other news…
Flacco’s ELITE offense scored 9 points against the Chiefs. LMAO!
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
4:42 pm
“SP
There you go with the insults.” – BL
You are only doing it to yourself. If you would like to explain to the board how using Hawley as a receiver was pure genius and it was only an execution problem I and everyone else is all ears. I get it just fine you think everyone in a Falcons jersey or a coach is off limits and it is the will of Allah, temporal dimension porting dolphins. or whatever diety image you believe in that is causing our woes, instead of much simpler ones. Blame whatever you like, my bearded iguanas oddly enough don’t believe in you either.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
4:51 pm
SP
You know what? You can pull out the dictionary and try to arrogantly talk down individuals if you like, but you just look sad to me. If you can only point out two pass plays out of the 50+ the Falcons ran as bad play calling, then go ahead.
I remember when people where talking crap against Mike Nolan during the first game with the Chiefs, and Big Ray and I said wait for the adjustments. He made a lot of people, including the AJC look like idiots.
They had a bad game versus Cam and turned around and did a great job versus RG3 and their ‘potent’ offense.
Let the coaches do their job. Jeez, the guy had only been OC for five games. Let the offense grow.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
5:02 pm
I’m done with this.
GO FALCONS!
Seeya on the new blog, D3!
D3
October 7th, 2012
5:03 pm
I know some of us are calling Dent a bust already, but I’ll have to say I think it’s a little premature. Remember that most of us said that we expected to see Tatupu take the starting job and let Dent grow into the role. Nolan had plenty of chances to keep Lofton if he didn’t think that Dent, eventually, could make somewhat of an impact. And SP brings up a great point about Spoon. He didn’t look good much at all as a rookie and in year 2 had a huge year.
Still think that Bier Truck should be moved to OLB or ILB permanently and let Dent grow into the role. We have plenty of DE’s between Abe, Ray Ed, Sid, Mass, and Cliff to be just fine @ DE. I also think we should be drafting an LB pretty early next year more in the mold of Spoon and Nick.
Finally, TD gets a little credit on this one because the last major “reach” he took in the 3rd round was Corey Peters and that’s worked out pretty darn well.
PoolerSpirit
October 7th, 2012
5:07 pm
So how ’bout that Alfred Morris kid… looked pretty darn good for a sixth round pick… who’d we take there? And did anybody cover him in all the pre-draft analysis? Did Cocoa Mel know about this guy? I didn’t even hear what college program he came from…
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
5:15 pm
One of the best parts about watching the game is reading the cage posts during it. Some almost jumped off the ship and some were hanging of the side off the boat, but, when the storm subsided, everyone climbs back on board and discusses how we could have done it better. The cage is full of hard core Falcon fans who have some heated discussions among us, but let a troll step in and see what happens!
The Atlanta Falcons are 5-0 for the first time in the history of the team. This team has something going that we have never had. Attitude, unity, and desire. I thnk we all share that, and it feels GOOD!
JJ
October 7th, 2012
5:25 pm
JB, Amen!
Wabe
October 7th, 2012
5:40 pm
I’ll take that win…
5-0 is 5-0, and it’s impressive.
In terms of today’s game and our team overall, we still need improvement, and it’s evident. The run defense is definitely a concern at this point. I think what makes matters more difficult is when we run into a mobile QB, because it makes the job of stopping the run all the more difficult. Our DE’s have to contain, and that leaves us vulnerable on the edges. But, I won’t say that’s the only problem we have, because the Broncos ran with some effectiveness too. I was pretty upset with the way Morris was able to turn every one of those tosses straight up the field. Absolutely must tighten up the run defense if we want to be successful in the playoffs.
Offensively, I’m still not happy with the way we’re playing. It seems Ryan’s checking the ball down more than he’s finding JJ/White. I understand the whole deal about opposing defenses rolling coverages JJ/White’s way, but, we absolutely have to find ways to get these guys going consistently week in and week out. I’m not seeing the ‘innovative’ downfield passing game that Koetter was bought in here for. Don’t get me wrong, there are moments, but, just not quite there with the explosiveness. Gotta tune up this side of the ball as well.
We’re 5-0, I don’t wanna make it sound like I’m doggin’ on them after this great start to the season. These are just points to be made in respects to the bigger picture. We have to get better on both sides of the ball, and still got plenty of season left to make improvement. Hopefully we’ll work out a lot of these issues coming out of our bye. Don’t wanna overlook any opponent, but I just don’t see us slipping up at home vs. Oakland. Anything can happen, but, I’d be awfully disappointed if they slipped up at home vs them.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
5:51 pm
The Falcons are the ONLY undefeated team in the NFL, gotta’ love it. STL 17 AZ 3.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
6:00 pm
Rapid Reactions:
I said before the game started that ugly or pretty I just wanted a win. On the road against an up and coming Redskins team, I will take this one all day long. And there was a lot to smile about (even though it was a little hard to see sometimes during the game).
Defense is continuing to improve. Even though Morris gashed us for over 100yds, they bowed up in the second half and held him to very little. RGIII did not get loose and the second time he tried, the Falcons busted him up. The secondary continues to cover and hit well, despite that one clusterfudge moment when they let a slot receiver run free all up and through the middle of the field. That one was on the new guy McClaine, and I would bet that never happens again. Still managed two crucial interceptions to close it out. Babs and Jerry pursued well after plays that got outside, and Babs saved a touchdown that would have made this a much tighter game.
The offense was fugly at times. At other times they looked like they couldn’t be stopped. I know the cage is full of MR2 lovers, but by any measure, he looked a bit off today. Those passes to Hawley are unforgivable, and even though Tony G made him look good on the first touchdown, I maintain that MR2 was trying to throw that ball away and Tony G made a super play to get up and haul it in. Quizz made some plays when given the chance, and JJ and Roddy were everything they were expected to be. When we get the ball to the playmakers with just a little room to operate, they come through. The offensive line came back from a crappy game last week to play good ball for most of the day.
Sure there are some things they can do better. But as long as they are winning, getting better will be a much easier process. Is it too early to start thinking perfect season? Well yes. But I have every expectation of going into the bye week 6-0. I have no fear that any team in the league will run over us. I know this team believes it can win every time they take the field. That mentality and the talent we have should take us a long way this year.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
6:01 pm
3 wins on the road on grass. I guess we can play pretty well outside a dome!
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
6:06 pm
Oops, forgot about the Texans.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
6:19 pm
As expected on ESPN, Falcons got great non-coverge of our win/ the loss of RG3. If we win the SB those suckers will have a big write-up about why the other team lost.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/64613/wrap-up-falcons-24-redskins-17
Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)
October 7th, 2012
6:37 pm
My little stomach butterflies were turning into agitated horned toads as that game progressed, but it IS a W, and 5-0 is petty spectacular considering just how many times that has happened here, and just how BAD this sports weekend has been locally.
One comment, somewhat contrarian about Refrigerator Hawley. I can see why Ryan would check down to him in certain circumstances:
1) He is a fullback in some formations, and fullbacks are check down receivers in this O, I suspect.
2) The Washington D coordinator knows Hawley is a C/G playing out of position for blocking purposes, and may be tempted to ignore him and add coverage to other more credible receiving options (While, Gonzo, JJ, Turner/Quizz, etc.). Tossing a couple balls his way wold hopefully make the D cover him, freeing someone else. Can’t get that respect unless you toss him a couple balls.
3) Ryan MUST keep on super excellent terms with the guys that keep him upright and breathing without assistance. I would think the entire O-line appreciates his giving Hawley a chance to grab a pass and get some of the “glory”. Politically astute move with his teammates, if limited potential for a long gain.
Wabe
October 7th, 2012
6:38 pm
Good post Dhunt.
I do somewhat disagree with your take on that TD to Gonzo. By no means do I think Ryan was trying to throw it away. I think he was setting Gonzo up for a ‘get up and get it’ type throw. With the defenders back turned, and Gonzo being back there, he took a shot and let Gonzo go snag it.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
6:41 pm
JB that’s the NFC East blogger talking about what’s important to the Redskins and that division. Pat Y of the NFC South blog would never disrespect us quite that badly. He may not have done a rapid reaction yet, because that game took a bit of digesting to really come to grips with what the Falcons did/didn’t do.
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
6:43 pm
I stand corrected.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/40002/rapid-reaction-falcons-24-redskins-17
DHunt
October 7th, 2012
6:45 pm
From the NFC South blog:
“One thing I never want to see again: Joe Hawley attempting to catch a pass. With fullback Lousaka Polite out with an injury, the Falcons sometimes used Hawley as a blocking back. But with 5:50 left in the third quarter, the Falcons tried to throw a pass to Hawley. He was wide open, but the ball went right off his hands. When you have the talent at the skill positions that the Falcons have, Hawley should never be thrown the ball.” – Pat Y.
Never, ever, ever ever ever ever ever. Did I say NEVER!?!?!?
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
6:50 pm
LOL….Cam hasn’t learned a damn thing yet, it seems. Can’t even complete 50% of his passes. Better stay in that Clark Kent suit and coat, buddy.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
6:51 pm
“The Atlanta Falcons are 5-0 for the first time in the history of the team. This team has something going that we have never had. Attitude, unity, and desire. I thnk we all share that, and it feels GOOD!” – JB Falcon
It does feel good to be 5-0…I don’t like that I’m getting the same feeling I did in that 13-3 season tho. Every team we face will be looking at the things others did that gave us trouble and looking for weaknesses with a passion instead of overlooking us…we cannot afford to have a coach not know or learn how to beat simple defensive game plans and hope to go far later. Be cute in a hotel room with plushy racoon outfits, handcuffs, and ladies of leisure..don’t pull that crap on the football field please Cooter.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
6:55 pm
Big Lou ,
LOL….Flacco is overrated. And to think…they have WRs. They have a top 5 talent at RB. They have big OL players. They HAVE no EXCUSES.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
7:01 pm
Panthers lose! Now its the Aints’ turn. I hope Rivers lights up that leaky NO defense.
They need to start printing those NFC South Champion T-shirts.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
7:02 pm
Hmmm….Jacksonville is losing 40-3. Somehow I don’t think they are laughing about us having Koetter and them getting Mularkey….I’ll STILL take that trade, LOL.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
7:03 pm
snacktastic ,
I’m counting on it…
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
7:05 pm
I said at the beginning of the season, I said 2-2 against the NFC East teams would be good.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
7:06 pm
“I don’t like that I’m getting the same feeling I did in that 13-3 season tho.” SP
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
7:09 pm
“Hmmm….Jacksonville is losing 40-3. Somehow I don’t think they are laughing about us having Koetter and them getting Mularkey….I’ll STILL take that trade, LOL.” – BR
That may be true but they never should have been laughing in the first place. It scares me silly that his last two teams fanbases wanted him gone and good riddance asap. Those that don’t understand the idea that whatever defenses he shows to have problems with will be the ones we will repeatedly start to see, will be the ones crying bloody murder when we don’t score points and struggle in the playoffs.
Ken Strickland
October 7th, 2012
7:09 pm
I have been feverously looking for those AINT/TAINT fans who once frequented our blogs religiously, and I can’t find a single one of them.
WHO DAT, WHO DAT, GOT US HIDDING IN OUR SWAMP,
WHO DAT, WHO DAT, GOT US IN A SLUMP,
WHO DAT, WHO DAT, GOT US LOOKING FOR A SACK,
WHO DAT, WHO DAT, WISHING KATRINA WOULD COME BACK,
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
7:10 pm
SP, you need therapy.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
7:12 pm
I have to get me a new keyboard. So, to continue with my last accidental post.
Oh ye of doubtful faith, Chase those evil thoughts from your mind and enjoy the season for what it is. The 13-3 season saw us beating the weaker teams we should have, most of them by last minute miracles. We have been winning this year against very good teams who, in the past, would have beaten us. The last two come back games has proven that this team is operating far below their capabilities.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
7:15 pm
I’m with anybody who advocates a move of Biermann to LB.
Dude had a good game today, too. 6 tackles, 1 sack, 2 tackles for loss, a QB hit….glad we held onto him.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
7:17 pm
JB ,
Well said.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
7:20 pm
Hoping the Chargers put the Saints away here in a couple of hours. I would love for that team to be 0-5.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
“SP, you need therapy.” – MB
If you’re paying I’ll gladly sit on a couch and relax. I could really use an OC that knows how to beat a BVG defense…you know like all those ones using even back-up QB’s did.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
7:23 pm
Broncos tried to make a game of it, and then McGahee fumbled.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
7:27 pm
SP, we put up 17 in the 4th quarter. You ever watch other games in he NFL? Every week crazy stuff happens, if you think you are going to see a display each week that has some significant “sign” that proves we will win in the playoffs, you will be disappointed.
First step to win in the playoffs is to GET to the playoffs. Don’t ever take that for granted, ask Drew Breese. So far so good, stay in the moment, enjoy it, becuase, dammit, it is nice to not have to go to bed pissed off on Sundays nights. I have had way way too many of those. PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS?
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
7:31 pm
I do have to say, I did not like the Hawley passes, not sure WTF that was, but they also ran 81 freaking plays, so I am sure there are a few I am not going to like.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
7:39 pm
Nothing “makes sense” in the NFL. Does the Colts coming back from 18 down and beating a 2-2 green bay “make sense”? Does an 0-4 NO make sense?
Enjoy the ride.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
7:43 pm
“We haven’t played our best football yet, but we’re 5-0,” McClure said. “This team is much better than the way we’ve played so far. But the nice thing is that it’s easy to make corrections when you’re 5-0. We still have a lot of room for improvement.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/64626/imperfect-atlanta-falcons-remain-perfect
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
7:47 pm
“I do have to say, I did not like the Hawley passes, not sure WTF that was,” – MB
All that really needs to be said. Go look at the Redskins fansites and even they are like WTF? was that garbage. Every person on planet Earth except for one guy here is like WTF? was that all about…that might be a clue something was wrong. The fact you and some others don’t see what I’m truly disappointed in is of no concern to me, I’m jealous you don’t see it. I would love to go back to being blind of certain things. If you worried about me enjoying things…don’t…the Taints will lose tonight ( the refs will cheat and give Brees his record but that decision to fight the punishments for their cheating has really pizzed Goodell off it seems) and that will be the start. Tommorrow, I’ll forget about how awful the playcalling was and enjoy life just fine.
Cooter? Kotter? Koetter? Next week is a new installment and maybe he learns…maybe the next DC will come up with another challenge and keep things exciting. I would like to see us prepared for once tho I must admit.
Wabe
October 7th, 2012
7:57 pm
The playcalling isn’t where it needs to be…
It’s all good right now in some folks eyes because we’re 5-0, and that’s fine for some. But, for others, they’re reminded of these great regular seasons while obvious shortcomings are ignored and then they bite us in the playoffs.
It’s obvious Koetter still isn’t getting the most out of this group. We’re yet to see all of these guys clicking simultaneously. One week it’s Roddy, one week it’s Julio. I understand ‘rolling coverage’ a certain guys way and everything, but honestly, how many teams ‘roll coverage’ AJ Greene’s way? Yet dude still balls out every week. Koetter’s job is to find ways to get those guys the ball in places they can make plays. That’s the bottom line. I could care less which way the coverage is rolling. If you could watch that game again, please do so. There was a point in that game where LITERALLY EVERY PLAY for a good 6-7 plays was a check-down pass.
The Giants have Nicks and Cruz, but both tend to be explosive week in and week out. We’re not there yet. We’re still not finding these guys in stride. The offense is better, but it still somewhat resembles last years offense, IMO. We’ll see how it progresses as the year goes on. I get that it’s difficult to pick up a new system. But, based on what we’ve seen, I’m not blown away by any means yet. Sure, Ryan’s playing good ball. But, we shouldn’t struggle to score points the way we have at times this season. We’re still inconsistent. We have points in the game where we look dominant, and other points where we’re going 3 and out.
We’ll see how it looks after the bye.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
8:00 pm
JB @ 7:12, well said my friend. We could have been 10 and 6 with ease. As you said, we beat the weak teams and had a lot of luck. I think this team is head and shoulders above that team and we have not hit 2nd gear yet.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
8:01 pm
that might be a clue something was wrong…
Well, I am sure you can watch ever single game and look at a play call and find a clue that something is wrong. MV7 on a called run on the goal line…Wrong.. Packers blowing a big lead…wrong….Even the Pats sorta letting Denver back in the game…
We can chose to view things how we want. Sure things are wrong, they they are right…then they are wrong again. That is what makes the NFL so awesome.
But how about this, we ran the Hawley play in case we get into a playoff game needing 4th and 1…We line Hawley up on the TE, any good MLB see is, and remembers seeing on film that we run that play, but wham, we use him as a decoy and run it up the guy, and that one second pause the MLB give gets us that yard….
My point, nobody knows the future. Koetter? I sorta share your feelings that if he was so good, why does he keep getting run off? But Smittys Jacksonville infatuation has delievered more than disappointed, so I trust him.
D3
October 7th, 2012
8:10 pm
I know there’s room for improvements, but……………
“Not that I remember,” Peterson said. “If I have, it wasn’t sweet enough that I could remember. This is very sweet. It’s big for the city, the franchise and the owner. Everybody’s been pulling for this team to take that next step. You can kind of see it now. We’ve been fighting this thing the last three or four years.
That’s why all of us love our Falcons!
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
8:16 pm
“Well, I am sure you can watch ever single game and look at a play call and find a clue that something is wrong.” – MB
It isn’t about one play, not even the two Hawley WTF? plays. The Hawley WTF? plays are merely a symptom of a much bigger issue. Wabe’s post just above shows a clear understanding of the bigger picture. If you don’t see certain things, count yourself lucky and enjoy it
. Thank you for not being insulting or even worse playing the mystery insult game. The X’s/ O’s part of the game, the chess “game within the game”, is not always obvious and shouldn’t be for most fans. Learning to see that aspect comes with a price and I don’t look down upon anybody that can’t/ won’t do it.
DePlane
October 7th, 2012
8:27 pm
My birds, my birds…I am lovin’ me some Falcons right now. This team has metal. Fortitude. Resiliency. This team has identity. This team is making the long suffering Falcon Nation believe.
Greg Mendel
October 7th, 2012
8:37 pm
I don’t know football like you guys, but I know a fair amount about military history. The one lesson that is forgotten again and again is: Never, never, ever underestimate your opponent.
We fans (me, anyway) and the sports media tend to consider certain match-ups as predictable, easy wins. I was wrong about the Carolina game, which reminded me not to be so comfortable about the outcome of today’s game.
Although the Falcons have struggled at times, I don’t think they have underestimated their opponents OR themselves. Regardless of our criticism of various aspects of our team’s performance — a normal reaction from devoted fans, not haters — the Falcons are 5-0. Undefeated! Even with all their faults.
They’ll probably lose a game or two. That’s just the odds. But this team has already shown me that it CAN win and it WANTS to win — even when it makes mistakes.
For some fans, post-season success is all that matters. For me, all I’ve ever wanted is a Falcons team realistically capable of winning every game it plays. I think we may have finally reached that point, and I’m damned happy to savor it.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
8:37 pm
MB, I’m starting to like your attitude but still think you handle is far fetched.
Wabe, you’re starting to sound like SP. It is unfortunate that the majority of us fans tend to look at the bright side of the game and cannot not see the “aspects” of the game like a selected few do. I do think I remember SW, in his wise predictions, saying that this will be a year of learning. The positive thing is exactly what McClure said. “We haven’t played our best football yet, but we’re 5-0,”.
It’s easy to sit back and be critical of any team. I could point out the weaknesses of all of the past SB winners. Every team has weaknesses, we just happen to have fewer than all of the other teams at this time. Do not forget the “process’. We’re working on it and doing a fine job while learning.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
8:38 pm
Well, anyone can “see” it, hell, we lived it. BUT just because we see reminders of our past bad memories does not mean the result is a forgone conclusion the next time we are in that position again. Actually, I give the Giants and Green Bay a little credit too.
If it was just x’s and o’s and coaching gameplans that won games, we would see the same teams year in, year out going deep into the playoffs. That is just not true.
I am with Peterson, our past does not dam us, it is all part of the “process”. May as well enjoy it.
And as far as Wabes contention that all our playmakers not “clicking” each game as some sort of play calling problem, I again disagree. Sure, Cincy forces the ball to Green every game, and he is good enough to beat the coverage and get his numbers, but that is the beauty of it all. We don’t have to force it, Ryan goes to the open guy, he lets the team pick thier poisen, and that is why he leads the league in QBR. And last I saw, Cincy lost today.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
8:43 pm
Greg 8:37, Thank You!
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
8:44 pm
We have a guy who was a debatable top 10 QB last year, he is universally agreed as the #1 QB so far this year. That does not happen if you have playcalling problems. Again, if the team decides to take Rodney out, we go to Gonzo, if they bracket Gonzo, we to JJ.
Now, is the day coming where we will hit on all cylanders and all 4 of our guys put on 100 yards? Sure, but that does not mean it will happen the next week, or in the playoffs. We just took our 1st game against our NFC east team…We are in for a dog fight, but that is what makes it fun.
Wabe
October 7th, 2012
8:44 pm
JB,
Not trying to stir up an argument or anything. I’m just saying it like I see it. I have oober-high expectations for this offense. I’m happy to be 5-0. I’m glad we can learn from our mistakes and make improvements without having lost a game yet. But, there’s definitely room for improvement, that’s all I’m getting at.
The offense still doesn’t really work for me. This unit has the capability to put up numbers like the ‘great’ offenses did. The 16-0 Pats offense, the 2009 Saints offense, the Packers from a year to a year and half ago. But, we still seem to get bogged down at time. Washington held us without a point through 2 quarters of this game. I know we had bad field position, but if you watch it, Matt Ryan was checkin’ down an AWFUL LOT today. He wasn’t finding his reads open, which means we have a problem. You got some of the most prolific WR’s in the NFL, but, our check-down guys were dominating the targets department. That means we got work to do.
I’m not upset with 5-0. But, again, my expectations are ooooober-high.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
8:47 pm
Meachem sticking a dagger in his old friends back. Love it.
Wabe
October 7th, 2012
8:48 pm
And to be honest, until this group proves to fans that they’re not deserving of ‘criticism’, it’s fair game. Folks have been clammering for years now that ‘they’re winning’ and that we shouldn’t criticize them when they’re winning games, but truth is, after getting trounced in the playoffs back to back years, I don’t think it’s unfair for fans to critique certain issues that the feel need improvement.
That’s just my take. I remember taking a lot of heat in our 13-3 season for being critical of things after wins. And then we got beat down in the playoffs. Truth is, we weren’t that bad, but, we were vulnerable to certain things. All I’m saying is, this team is showing they are vulnerable in certain areas. And, we just simply want to see them overcome any/all vulnerablilities.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
8:52 pm
Even the greatest symphonies have very few moments where every instrument hits the exact note at the same time.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
8:53 pm
“If it was just x’s and o’s and coaching gameplans that won games, we would see the same teams year in, year out going deep into the playoffs. That is just not true. ” – MB
Nobody said that. Now if you wanna get into it, please lecture me why Nolan was a terrible hire and we should have stuck with BVG…I mean according to you those X/Os don’t mean anything. See what I did there? Annoying isn’t it. If you have valid points why the way Koetter choose to attack a BBD defense was succesful and the best way to go I’m all ears. We can do the analogy thing too if you want…a pick axe, sledgehammer, or dynamite will all dig a tunnel thru rock eventually. I know which I would choose and why over the others.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
9:00 pm
Understand Wabe, but it is easy to find fault, but today we had bad field position, and had a couple of turnovers in the 1st half. Ice did go deep a few times, but we could not connect. We also had a few bad playcalls (when it did become OK to grap the recievers facemask when the ball is in the air?).
Also, I get it with Turner, there were a few times when it was a run and I was like, oh no, the cage is gonna go nuts, but, he made a good run. On that TD, nobody wanted to even THINK about TRYING and tackle him, and THAT is his value…but you would never know it here.
My point? I think Execution is more important than playcalling. If you don’t execute, it does not matter what you call.
D3
October 7th, 2012
9:00 pm
For some fans, post-season success is all that matters. For me, all I’ve ever wanted is a Falcons team realistically capable of winning every game it plays. I think we may have finally reached that point, and I’m damned happy to savor it. — Greg Mendel @ 8:37 PM
Absolutely fantastic post! Literally couldn’t agree more.
Greg Mendel
October 7th, 2012
9:02 pm
Wabe:
Good points. And to clarify my previous post, I don’t think nit-picking schemes or players is actual “nit-picking” on this blog. Most posters here are legitimate “students of the game,” and enjoy debate.
There IS room for improvement, which — considering 5-0 — is actually promising. For example, if Ryan doesn’t throw that backfield INT for a TD, and the Defense doesn’t fall asleep long enough to give the Skins backup QB a gimmie TD pass, the final score is 27-3. That’s two stupid mistakes for 14 points.
Regarding the Hawley mind-boggle, I kinda write that off. It’s always good to throw a curve. But those kinds of inspirations make you look like a genius or a fool, depending on whether or not they succeed.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
9:02 pm
“I don’t know football like you guys, but I know a fair amount about military history. The one lesson that is forgotten again and again is: Never, never, ever underestimate your opponent.” – Greg
Welcome to the Cage…I promise not to bite your head off, tonight at least. Got any Sun-Tzu proverbs to describe todays events?
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
9:04 pm
Wabe, no problem here and I understand completely. I too am a perfectionist but I suppose I have a lower limit of acceptability. I can accept a lot of the poor performances in certain “aspects” of the game with the reasoning that we learn by our mistakes. If everyone was so optimistic, including the team and coaches, we would surely fall on our azz.
It’s like Greg said, never underestimate your enemy, and I would like to add, know your enemy. The Falcon CS are not unaware of the team’s weaknesses and I’m sure they will address them in the future.
D3
October 7th, 2012
9:04 pm
We have a guy who was a debatable top 10 QB last year, he is universally agreed as the #1 QB so far this year. That does not happen if you have playcalling problems. — Matty Bicep @ 8:44 PM
Nicely put.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
9:06 pm
“Wabe, you’re starting to sound like SP.” – JB Falcon
Hey now, you might make him mad saying that
.
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
9:08 pm
Wabe, I took a beating in our 13 and 3 season for saying our o-line was not good enough to win in big games. I do see what you and SP are saying but what the hell can a fan do about it? I’m still worried about the o-line but we are 5 and 0 so I believe in time it will all come together. We still have 11 games to play and the least amount of points we have scored is 24.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
9:10 pm
SP. Greg has been here for a while, just don’t post much.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
9:10 pm
“It’s like Greg said, never underestimate your enemy, and I would like to add, know your enemy” – JB Falcon
See, you are sounding like you get it. Koetter should not have been surprised nor had trouble with that BVG passive rush BBDB defense after 6-7 years in the NFL. The fact he was doing certain things poinst to he didn’t know or didn’t care. I’m disappointed that either answer is correct.
Matty Bicep
October 7th, 2012
9:10 pm
SP, never said Nolan was not a great hire. xs and os matter, but it is not the end all be all. In nolans case, it is not even his scheme that is great, for it has all been done before, but the way he has teached it, and the way we execute it is a credit to coach nolan.
Anyway, enjoyed the game and the convo, but I am gonna turn in, been a long weekend.
Greg Mendel
October 7th, 2012
9:11 pm
Thanks for the nods, guys. And, no, Screen Pass, I don’t have any tips from Sun-Tzu or von Clauswitz to contribute. They’re working baseball odds in Vegas these days.
D3
October 7th, 2012
9:20 pm
SP — Wanted to bend your ear on this idea (had no idea you were a GT guy, BTW, need a new coach? You can have ours
). I totally agree on those ridiculous throws to Hawley and I’m sick to d@mn death of having an extra OL as a 3rd TE to block. That means you take off an HD, Gonzo, or Quizz off the field. Anyway, to my question, do you think that one reason our offense isn’t being maximized is the lack of burst / speed threat out of the backfield? I know that Koetter can call better plays, but I get the feeling that teams will either sell out on run or deep pass because they know that not one of our backs can really hurt us in those check down type plays. Sure, they get 5-6 yards, but not having a burner who can really turn on the jets with one of those checkdown throws really blows. I thought that Quizz might could be that guy, but he seems less and less so as the season goes on. Funny enough, I thought when Snelling came in the game and starting getting some of those throws, the defense started really opening up. Thoughts? BTW, I think I saw Drew Davis in on a pass play. Why would he be over Cone?
Wabe
October 7th, 2012
9:37 pm
Understood. And points taken.
But, I’d lean a bit more towards SP on this one. Again, not sure how many times I’ve said it, but to reiterate, I’m ecstatic we’re 5-0. I just think McClure’s quote sums it up best, they know there’s still room to improve. The run defense needs work. And, I think the offense hasn’t really lived up to what it’s ‘completely capable’ of.
All I’m saying is, it seems there are still points in the game where we tend to get slowed down a bit. It happened against Denver. It happened against Carolina. It happened against Washington. There were points in those games where we just weren’t moving the ball the way we needed to. I understand you’re gonna have that, we can’t expect perfection. But, the potential to be a ‘great’ offense is there, and we haven’t really been ‘great’ in my opinion. Thus far, we’ve been a good offense, and a good defense. Haven’t really gotten round to greatness.
Regardless, we’re 5-0. But, I’m guilty as Greg points out as being a fan who only cares about postseason success. In my opinion, you play for championships. This city has been desperate for a champion. This franchise offers this city the best shot at a championship. We’ve consistently been winning games since Smitty arrived. It’s time to get some hardware.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
9:42 pm
Greg, JB Falcon, Matty Bicep.
I love your posts. I’m glad I am not the only ‘homer’ in here. A dead clock is right twice a day. Of course if you keep saying things are bad, and then something bad eventually happens, you will be like: “See! I was right! I know everything!”
Our job as fans is to cheer for our team. Can we be critical? Yes. But, to completely disregard the good with the bad is ridiculous. That’s why I like Wabe and SWs posts. They bring fair criticisms without insulting others with arrogant and dismissive tones, like other fans are beneath their prolific knowledge.
You can actually have a civil discussion with them. They even concede when good points are made.
I do understand the trepidation, I really do. We all have been Falcon Fans, heck ATL fans for years–which always leads to disappointment. Yet, this isn’t like the 13-3 season. This team isn’t beating up on scrubs. Not only that, but after the bye week, we play Eagles, Dallas, Giants…
We will know by the playoffs if these guys are serious.
But, just watching this team so far this year…
How they can impose their will. How the defense is great versus the pass and opportunistic. How Matt Ryan is improving everyday. This team is different. I can feel it. How that will translate in the post season… I don’t know.
Wabe
October 7th, 2012
9:43 pm
Regarding the Joe Hawley thing, honestly, you could count that as yet another ‘checkdown’ that I’m talking about. There were way too many instances where Ryan dropped back, scanned the field, and just dumped that ball down to a back or a TE (in this case Hawley) who delayed getting into his route. I don’t think it was Koetter’s intention to ‘fool them’ or anything of the sort. I just think Ryan saw a blanketed field and wanted to get that ball out of his hands before the pressure got there.
Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)
October 7th, 2012
9:45 pm
Sun Tzu? I got your stinkin Sun Tzu–
“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sorta explains the Hawley passes
“Even the finest sword plunged into salt water will eventually rust.”
Sean “saltwater” Weatherspoon rusted out RGIII
“If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.”
Hence, the late drives from behind to victory.
“Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground
over which it flows; the soldier works out his victory in relation
to the foe whom he is facing.”
Below par pass D, so pass like crazy. Even in the rain.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
Don’t run with 8 in the box.
Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)
October 7th, 2012
9:46 pm
Blog Monster again, no mas
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
9:46 pm
Greg, JB Falcon, Matty Bicep.
I love your posts. I’m glad I am not the only ‘homer’ in here. A dead clock is right twice a day. Of course if you keep saying things are bad, and then something bad eventually happens, you will be like: “See! I was right! I know everything!”
Our job as fans is to cheer for our team. Can we be critical? Yes. But, to completely disregard the good with the bad is ridiculous. That’s why I like Wabe and SWs posts. They bring objectivity without arrogance.
You can actually have a civil discussion with them. They even concede when good points are made.
I do understand the trepidation, I really do. We all have been Falcon Fans, heck ATL fans for years–which always leads to disappointment. Yet, this isn’t like the 13-3 season. This team isn’t beating up on scrubs. Not only that, but after the bye week, we play Eagles, Dallas, Giants…
We will know by the playoffs if these guys are serious.
But, just watching this team so far this year…
How they can impose their will. How the defense is great versus the pass and opportunistic. How Matt Ryan is improving everyday. This team is different. I can feel it. How that will translate in the post season… I don’t know.
Chop Buster
October 7th, 2012
9:48 pm
What a game today. Falcon fans were all over Fedex Field today. This team didn’t look in sync early but I never doubted we would win this game–which is different from years past. This team just seems to have a different confidence about themselves. They make mistakes, but they don’t get down and let it stop them from keeping their eyes on the prize. Man when I heard that hit Spoon put on RG3 today I knew he was out–especially as he fell face first. It was over for them then. Way to go Falcons. Rise Up!!!
Paddy O
October 7th, 2012
9:50 pm
JB – I grew up in NJ, and although I’ve been gone for almost 25 years, when I visit, I am amazed at the animosity and assumed inferiority of all things southern, particularly GA. So, ESPN dissing us is typicaly NE arrogance. The innate bias toward NYC – Yanks, Giants – does NOT strike those twits in Connecticut as anything odd. SP: I see you beginning to demand execution until we get close to 35 points, say? With all our high quality weapons – why EVER throw to Hawley? I did not watch game – got to watch my man Matt Kenseth win in person for the first time at Talladega. Other than being about 55 degrees, and me wearing shorts, it was exceptional fun – glad we won.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
9:50 pm
“SP — Wanted to bend your ear on this idea (had no idea you were a GT guy, BTW, need a new coach? You can have ours ). I totally agree on those ridiculous throws to Hawley and I’m sick to d@mn death of having an extra OL as a 3rd TE to block. That means you take off an HD, Gonzo, or Quizz off the field. Anyway, to my question, do you think that one reason our offense isn’t being maximized is the lack of burst / speed threat out of the backfield? I know that Koetter can call better plays, but I get the feeling that teams will either sell out on run or deep pass because they know that not one of our backs can really hurt us in those check down type plays. Sure, they get 5-6 yards, but not having a burner who can really turn on the jets with one of those checkdown throws really blows. I thought that Quizz might could be that guy, but he seems less and less so as the season goes on. Funny enough, I thought when Snelling came in the game and starting getting some of those throws, the defense started really opening up. Thoughts? BTW, I think I saw Drew Davis in on a pass play. Why would he be over Cone?” – D3
Richt might actually be an improvement sigh. I had to give up watching Tech as seeing CPJ then MM was gonna kill me. Your reasoning with taking out an extra receiver is spot on. CJ killed us last week and doing that against a opponent with a pass rush makes sense. The Skins went front4 only with little to no blitzing…there was no need to lose as many as 2 receivers in some cases today. If Clabo is hurt that bad than get him off the field.
To answer your question, yes and no. The main problem I see is that Turner needs a “big set” formation to have success and this means making it painfully obvious when we decide to run. Can Turner have success in a single back set? He has, mostly on draws and delays that I have noticed. When we run straight up in single back sets the results haven’t been too good. If Koetter would make the switch to Snelling for single back duty as he is a better all-around threat then certain plays would not be so telegraphed. I wanted Pead or Demps for a reason and you are seeing it. If Koetter is gonna try to do screens outside of when teams blitz and expose themselves then I think you are corect that teams will not respect Turner in that role.
When a team does that passive BBDB scheme like today, there is no blitz to take advantage of so when throwing design screens you are just passing in front of the ENTIRE defense basically…a not so smart move.
On the Davis/ Cone question…I think the better question would be why did not both get chances today. The Skins stayed back in a defensive scheme that trades the middle, intermediate, or underneath in exchange for taking away deep. They also double teamed thus ANY extra WR’s should have been one on one. That BBDB is basically telling you we will leave the door open all day until the end-zone compression stops you. Koetter tried to force “his offense” instead of taking what the Skins came right out and gave away. We should never have been stopped outside of their 20 for any reason…even if we screwed up in the red-zone we should have had a ton of FG if nothing else.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
9:51 pm
Blog monster check
Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)
October 7th, 2012
9:51 pm
One final comment if blog monster lets it thru – it doesn’t like on topic comments, so lets try this:
As a DEEPLY disappointed Bulldog (and Jacket) fan coming into a LOOOONG bye week, I suggest Richt get a tattoo – on one cheek write “Spurriers” and the other cheek “b*tch. He earned it.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
9:52 pm
Wabe, patience my friend. There’s an old prayer like. “God you have given me many traits that I am proud of but you did not give me any patience. Please give me some patience, and give them to me NOW!”
” I understand you’re gonna have that, we can’t expect perfection. But, the potential to be a ‘great’ offense is there,” Wabe
Patience, and don’t forget the process. Henry Ford invented the automobile but he didn’t know how to drive it.
D3
October 7th, 2012
9:52 pm
All posts are out!
Fired-up Falcon Fan in a Fall Football Frenzy (F6)
October 7th, 2012
9:53 pm
Had a few Sun Tzu quotes that apply to the game today, but they are little more than a blog monster belch at this stage.
Try next blog, g’night.
LRD
October 7th, 2012
9:53 pm
5-0 and sAINTS currently losing, beat JJ in FFL, and my wife made fresh chocolate cookies.. what a great day
Paddy O
October 7th, 2012
10:04 pm
some folks think that BAD play calling CAN NOT be overcome. Matty Ice & Roddy proved that is incorrect in 2010. At this point, Welcome Back should start to show tendencies that the defense can game plan against. however, if our offense is DYNAMIC, as it should be with the various players we have at skill positions – if the O line holds, we should move the ball at will. This year does reminde me a lot of 2010 – we won a few games due to luck (Carolina was the SF game); and some other games where we should have dominated, but allowed the opposition to hang around. We shall see. Score 35 points, then the offense can relax. If we are getting bogged down (say 2 consecutive possessions), let Ryan run the no huddle. It takes a lot of work to score 35 points. Personally, I’d be aiming at roddy & JJ downfield every play. IF they are covered, tony G & HD. Blitz guy should be Quizz or Snelling on every down. Turner is NOT a dependable screen guy – sadly, his “lucky” TD most likely colored the reality. We shall see.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
10:05 pm
Also,
Washington is no scrub offensive team… and our defense held them to 17 points! I still think the TD from Cousins was our secondary taking a play off. We can say what we want about the offense(even though they only had one ‘off game’), but this defense is exciting to watch! I mean, they adjusted well from last weeks stumbling against Cam.
187 passing yards allowed only!
129 rushing yards allowed(better than 200 from Cam)
Only one sack allowed, mostly on Ryan holding the ball too long.
Won the possession game by 10 minutes.
Lots of good from this game.
But, I love how White stated: why you talking to us–we did bad. It shows that they are focused.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
10:15 pm
“SP: I see you beginning to demand execution until we get close to 35 points, say? With all our high quality weapons – why EVER throw to Hawley?” – Paddy O
35 points is your number, I may be a an A-hole but I won’t take credit for others ideas
. I do believe that anything less than 28 points is a fail point blank. There are only a couple teams with the TALENT to stop our offense to less than one TD a quarter at a MINIMUM. Those X/O’s that some don’t believe in COULD stop us if our X/O’s don’t react, which I see once again as fail. The number of teams with a decent pass rush that could give us trouble is not small but very few have all the other components necessary to completely shut us down. I do not think you are wrong one bit Paddy-O, I just think your 35 number is actually a touch too small…that is only one TD by my thoughts.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
10:21 pm
F6, you okay dude?
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
10:21 pm
http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000077852/versatile-falcons-now-50-for-first-time-in-their-history/
falcon21
October 7th, 2012
10:30 pm
Later Cagers, thank you Birds for making the weekend a little better!
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
10:38 pm
BL. that link didn’t kinda work but it could have been my system but it was worth it. Very well said.
Greg Mendel
October 7th, 2012
11:13 pm
I found an obscure Sun-Tsu proverb:
“Warfare is like the churning of the sea. Shells tumble, rising or becoming buried in the sand. Never play Smittywar. Especially underwater.”
Okay, I said it was obscure.
JB FALCON
October 7th, 2012
11:17 pm
Greg, go to bed.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
11:19 pm
Dammit….looks like the sorry-ass Chargers might let us down…
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
11:32 pm
I love your posts. I’m glad I am not the only ‘homer’ in here. A dead clock is right twice a day. Of course if you keep saying things are bad, and then something bad eventually happens, you will be like: “See! I was right! I know everything!”
Don’t know if I’d call you a homer as much as I would an eternal optimist.
In any case, that’s why I gave up on saying things are bad all the time. Kinda hard to say that when your team is winning games and doing things it simply could not do in the past.
I too feel differently about this team. I realize some folks hang onto past feelings probably because its less risky. Maybe others have other feelings. I won’t presume to actually know this. I AM enjoying coming up with a win every week and know it can’t be this way every week.
I do want my team to get better, but I don’t see how you learn without some mistakes.
Watched the Giants go 10-6 last year, then win the SB. I work with some guys who are from NY and are huge Giants fans. Ashamed to say that the difference between them and us is they never lost faith in their team. Did they grip about the mistakes and what not? Yeah, they did. But they didn’t talk one word of ish about Coughlin or his staff.
Hell, they ripped Eli at times but would defend him to a man…bitterly even.
I’m not saying we’re bad fans and Giants fans are good ones. And Lord knows the Giants have given their fans more reason to have confidence in the last 4 years than the Falcons have given theirs in decades. But they never did rip into their teams OR each other during wins. They celebrated each win like it was SUPPOSED to happen.
And these are NY fans…critical as hell….
Just a touch of different perspective. I’ll take my Falcons fans over any others, any day. Even if we are hard on each other while the team goes undefeated….LOL….ludicrous but there it is…
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
11:32 pm
Chargers are getting screwed by the refs. The worst debacle I have ever witnessed. I swear that these guys were bought off. If I was a Falcon’s fan, I would be pissed.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
11:40 pm
BL, I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but I find it hard not to agree with you. That was utterly terrible officiating.
snacktastic
October 7th, 2012
11:41 pm
Enter your comments here
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
11:44 pm
Big Ray
I kind of look at it as trying to enjoy a drink with your buddies, but one guy just got dumped by his girlfriend. You end up not having as much fun, because the gloom and doom from the dude spreads out to the group. I just hate that I cannot even enjoy a game on this blog or even be happy for a win, because a smart comment would be made on my posts.
When I hang out with the guys or go to the Raiders game next week, we will be too busy cheering for our team, not complaining about mistakes or acting like we are better coaches. I dunno, guess I will stick to being a homer and enjoy the ride(like MB said). Cheers.
Big Lou
October 7th, 2012
11:48 pm
snacktastic
I officially think that the Saints are helped constantly by the refs. I counted FIVE… FIVE freaking bad calls. This only happens to Saints opponents. I am sick to my stomach. They should be 0-5. I am appalled by the officiating.
Screen Pass
October 7th, 2012
11:51 pm
Looks like I get to eat crow. I was certain Goodell would let the refs cheat to get Brees his record but I was also certain he wouldn’t let them cheat to give the Taints a win…a nice little FU to Peyton and co on national TV. Either Goodell has lost the crooked refs or the Taints owner musta paid the big bucks to get back in the good graces. The cheating refs were so bad even the damn talking heads had to say something. Hopefully the Chargers file a protest..that was WWE worthy bad.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
11:54 pm
And to be honest, until this group proves to fans that they’re not deserving of ‘criticism’, it’s fair game. Folks have been clammering for years now that ‘they’re winning’ and that we shouldn’t criticize them when they’re winning games, but truth is, after getting trounced in the playoffs back to back years, I don’t think it’s unfair for fans to critique certain issues that the feel need improvement.
That’s just my take. I remember taking a lot of heat in our 13-3 season for being critical of things after wins. And then we got beat down in the playoffs. Truth is, we weren’t that bad, but, we were vulnerable to certain things. All I’m saying is, this team is showing they are vulnerable in certain areas. And, we just simply want to see them overcome any/all vulnerablilities.
I understand.
And criticism is fine.
Guess when a team has earned the right to not be criticized? Those moments right after they win the SB and before the next offseason work begins.
Otherwise, they are open to criticism at all times in between.
Do I want my team to rectify it’s mistakes? Yep. And I would just as soon they do so during the regular season…doesn’t hurt for them to win in the process.
Watching Mike Smith after the game made me feel better about the things that went wrong. He clearly saw plenty that went wrong and stopped just short of saying so.
I think we have an even more sincere “perfectionist” hanging around, and while he ain’t perfect, he does work at Flowery Branch. Yeah, that’s my small vote of confidence after giving Smitty a rash of shizzle for quite a while.
And I’m still gonna give it to him if I think he deserves it…
But enough of this. I’m not arguing. Clearly we will carry on the way we do, crazy as hell until the playoffs. So it is with the Cage, LOL.
Big Ray
October 7th, 2012
11:57 pm
Well we agree on that at least….the Saints are a bunch of lying, scheming, putrid ish-eating scum-sucking monkey nut-sucking goat-boning butt crack-licking…am I missing anything?
Oh, and they paid former FEMA officials to be refs at their game….just so they could win one.
If nothing else, maybe this gets Norv Turner fired finally…LOL.
Big Ray
October 8th, 2012
12:02 am
Big Lou ,
Did get a chuckle out of your analogy…
Nah, it ain’t gotta be like all that.
I have learned this…if you look for posts responding to your own, then you may find things you don’t like. The choice is to either respond back or let it fly right by ya. Because other folks do have the choice and right to opine upon your own opinions.
But you know that already…so it’s all good. Like I said, we’ll carry on like family, meaning we can get under each other’s skin like nobody else…
Big Ray
October 8th, 2012
12:03 am
Alright, midsection is starting to get that ache to it…time to hit the meds just a tad and call it a night.
Love y’all, CAGE FAM. All of y’all.
DHunt
October 8th, 2012
12:07 am
You know why you play for regular season wins and a bye to miss the Wildcard game? So you have a 100% certainty that you won’t lose the wildcard game. I’m officially sick of the haven’t won a playoff game mantra. The Falcons are the only team in the league that can never escape it’s past. Anyone who thinks this is the same team as the ones that lost those games in the past is very obviously not paying attention.
My Sun Tzu – “If, on the other hand, in the midst of difficulties we are always ready to seize an advantage, we may extricate ourselves from misfortune”. from the chapter Variation In Tactics.
Watching the game today, I was never concerned that the Falcons would lose the game. Just last week, most people gave up on the team late in the fourth. But this is a team that is always ready to seize an advantage. What’s more, it’s a team that can always find an advantage. And it’s a team that has shown it can extricate itself from misfortune.
Big Lou
October 8th, 2012
12:10 am
Big Ray
Get that rest, man. Heal up!
Big Lou
October 8th, 2012
12:11 am
HEAR HEAR, DHUNT!
Big Lou
October 8th, 2012
9:46 am
Raiders…
Another team off a Bye week?
Who made this schedule?
LAME!
snacktastic
October 8th, 2012
10:12 am
One thing I know about the Falcons is that they aren’t about to use this schedule, unfair or not, as an excuse. Two sub-par games in a row might have had me worried, but they were both wins. I think next week we do to the Raiders what we did to the Jags last year: handle a bad team and then cruise into the break before a big game.
waynester
October 8th, 2012
10:55 am
The dump passes to Hawley weren’t stupid spur-of-the-moment decisions by Ryan. They practiced it all week and one of the Falcon receivers said that Hawley was catching them all during the week. No excuses for the drops–especially given his excellent week of practice–but those were not stupid ideas, just failed execution…..
Paddy O
October 8th, 2012
11:00 am
Big Lou: I posted this last blog, our defense was the first defense to prevent SD from scoring a TD in 152 games – almost a decade. And, SD had looked pretty good since they played us.
Greg Mendel
October 8th, 2012
11:08 am
There’s something I kept wondering about Sunday, and I’m curious what the Cage thinks about it:
It seemed like Ryan generally had good protection and plenty of time. So much time, he held the ball forever (sometimes too long). Was Redskins pass coverage that good, Falcons receivers poorly located, or what? I’m not knocking the number of good passes/receptions, but again and again we marvel over the combined potential of White-Jones-Douglas-Gonzales. With time to scan and throw, it seems there should have been more completions. I do think some of that is on Matt himself.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
11:44 am
I still did not get the dump pass to Hawley, unless…January against the Bears…4th and goal….3 seconds left….got stuffed on 3rd down by Urlacher…..we bring Hawley to TE in what looks like a Jumbo package….But Urlacher, being the student of the game, remembers the tape of Hawley against Redskins, so as he thinks about this, we hand the ball to Snelling, from the fullback position, slams into Urlacher off guard, but since Urlacher is about .01 second slow due watching Hawley out the corner of his eye, Snelling crosses the plane….
We can choose to look at any play any way we like, I personally like to use a little imagination.
I understand that in theory, every offensive play should score a TD, but sometimes plays have other meaning.
Bird Nation
October 8th, 2012
11:49 am
What’s up guys? First and foremost I want say that I am avid reader of this blog and I think this is by far the best Falcons blog out there period. I’m probably one of biggest “homers” you will find around southwest Georgia. I am really enjoying the fact we thus far undefeated this season. It finally feels goods to have some ammunition to fire back at all the Cowboys, Packers, s(A)ints fans etc. at work. This team has really shown itself to be the best in franchise history.
There are some glaring vulnerabilities that I have seen carry over from preseason that has shown up in the previous to games. I won’t really get into that because even with those vulnerabilities we have found a way to win despite them. 5-0 thus far with one more home game before the bye week, who can be mad at that when we have 5 new position coaches including new OC and DC.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
11:57 am
Greg, I was wondering about Ryan holding the ball too….It could be good coverage…Receivers knocked off their routes….Bad route planning and playcalling…Or just bad route running….or maybe Ryan did not feel he had the right throwing lane for the throw called due to a lineman being in position to swat the ball down….but, it was most likely a combination of all of the above, but with TV coverage, you saw what I saw, so the answer for me is inconclusive. One think I do know, Ryan only has 2 picks all year, so when in doubt, for whatever reason, he is not throwing the ball unless he is pretty sure it is a good decision, and sometimes the good decision is to go back to his progression.
snacktastic
October 8th, 2012
12:23 pm
@Bird Nation: Welcome to the Cage! You have Cowboys fans at work? That sucks. Not as much as Tony Romo, though.
@Greg/Matty: Ryan holding the ball too long was definitely a concern yesterday. Maybe the wet grass was a factor. It’s possible they weren’t running at full speed so as not to fall over, and thus weren’t getting open as quickly as usual. Just a theory.
Greg Mendel
October 8th, 2012
12:26 pm
Matty B:
The other thing I’ve wondered about is what appears to be Ryan’s tendency to throw a little high (something that’s been mentioned in the Cage). I wonder if those high throws are intentional. It could reduce the risk of an interception. It would reduce the odds of a catch, though, if receivers don’t anticipate it. I don’t know enough about technique to judge such things.
Wabe
October 8th, 2012
12:36 pm
Greg…
That’s exactly the point I’m making here bro. It looked like Ryan had plenty of time, but for some odd reason, he was driving that ball to our playmaking WR’s. That, IMO, is somewhat concerning. I mean, what kind of coverage were the Redskins playing that basically enabled them to bottle up RW, Jones, TG, and HD. I understand that TG and even Jones had big games. But, for good stretches in that game, we saw Ryan simply dumping that ball down to Turner, or Quizz, for little checkdown 3-4 yard gainers. Nothing wrong with that. But, with the weapons we have, that shouldn’t be happening as often as it did on Sunday.
Again, Jones had a big game. But, we saw Jones venting some of his frustration to WR coach Robiskie on the sidelines before one of our drives. Funny thing is, after that little exchange, Jones started seeing that ball flying his way.
I can’t say for sure whether it’s our own scheme issues, if it’s what the Redskins were throwing at us, or if Ryan just wasn’t as comfortable as he’d like to be to make some potentially tight throws. But, regardless, that was my biggest beef about the offense yesterday. We started gelling in the 4th quarter. But, for about 3 quarters, we were having a hard time doing anything more than trying to ‘methodically’ move the ball down the field as we’ve done for a couple of years now. Little checkdowns, 2-3-4 yard runs, TG used as a safety net. These are all things we’ve grown accustomed to seeing with Mularkey.
With the talent we have on the outside, we should honestly be playing through White/Jones much more, even HD for that matter. We’ll see how this offense grows and develops.
Wabe
October 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
he wasn’t driving that ball downfield to our playmakers*
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
12:39 pm
Snack, did not say it was not a concern, anytime a QB can’t quickly find the open receiver, it means either design, or execution was lacking, and how the other team is performing/calling has a lot to do with it too….But, there is not way to tell from watching it on the boob tube….And the natural grass thing can be the one factor too for it can effect timing.
As far at throwing high, that is the million dollar question. Generally, you would rather throw low than high, throwing hi tend to lead to interceptions. In the past, a lot of Ryan critics said the high throws somehow were the result of not having enough arm stregnth, but I never really got it to be honest…I think it is a timing issue of being outside on grass. Just my 2 cents.
It is like being a pitcher, sometimes you got it, sometimes you don’t. But winning without your best stuff is what it is all about.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
Ryan did take a few shots down the field, but we just did not connect. One play a guy was hanging on JJs facemask. Ryan threw for 350 yards, he averaged 6.7 per attempt, so that looked familiar, but had he connected on just one of the longer passes he attempted, it could have been higher.
They just looked sluggish in the 1st half, fumble snap, pick 6. Those were the obvious misques, but there were probably a lot more that we did not see. See, I put that on coaching, execution.
LRD
October 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
Ryan is holding onto the ball longer.. and my thinking is the underlying reason for holding so long is a good thing.. Ryan playing with the most confidence I have seen in him since he began. No “happy feet”, and confidence in his line and more importantly, confidence in his OC
… so he is holding on longer as the line is actually giving him the time (cept againt Carolina) to allow the routes to open up.. and deep routes do take a bit longer for the to develop..
Unca' Bob
October 8th, 2012
1:16 pm
To the high passes. It’s only a thought, but here goes.
I would think that open-air grass fields should have a ridge running down the center from goal post to goal post and slanting toward the sidelines for drainage. In a domed stadium there would be no real need to drain, and therefore would be more level.
Like I said…Just a thought.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
1:24 pm
Unca, as good a theory as I have ever heard. I wonder if they practice on grass before out door games. I would image they have to, really, no way this could be overlooked?
Big Lou
October 8th, 2012
1:42 pm
Paddy O
Yes you did. I remember that post. In glad you see the upside of this defense.
I mean think about it. They held RG3 to zero touchdowns, I repeat ZERO touchdowns. They were going into the game averaging 30 points a game. He officially had the worst QB rating of his career.
Of course we can nick pick on the run defense, but if you have looked at the tend… it is a bend, but not break team. They will get yards, but they will tighten up on scores.
8th in the league in points allowed. 1st in turnovers. This D is legit.
Big Lou
October 8th, 2012
1:44 pm
The flowery branch is a grass field, correct?
Bird Nation
October 8th, 2012
1:47 pm
Snacktastic: What sucks the most is that their only punchline comes by comparison of Super Bowl rings. By my account, no team has been more overrated and yet underachieved as much as the Cowgirls.
My question to you all is this: Could it be that as Def. coordinators and head coaches get more game film, they are picking up on certain tendencies? Or is it that it’s taking more time for them to grow into our new Off. coordinator’s style of offense? Possibly we’re winning on pure talent alone? Whatever the case, I hope the issues get addressed during the upcoming bye week in week 7. My poor nerves may not be able to stand another nail biter. lol
waynester
October 8th, 2012
2:03 pm
The surprise has worn off our new schemes and other teams are getting a handle on us, yet we continue to pull out WINS!
I feel stupid defending such a poorly executed play, but again, no matter who is in at fullback–they’re going to be a check-down receiver–with Polite out, Hawley had to pick up yet another position on short notice. I believe it was Roddy after the game that said (paraphrasing) “the funny thing was– he was catching them all in practice”…so we actually game-planned some dump-offs to Hawley–we just didn’t execute them….
Greg Mendel
October 8th, 2012
2:15 pm
Good points, Cagers. Bird Nation touched on stuff I’ve been thought about. It makes me nervous too, but what gives me hope is that a lot of problems ARE being addressed and corrected. Plus, the players and coaches seem to be working together to solve problems. They’ve all got egos, but I think the two biggest egos left at the end of last season. I like the 2012 attitude.
snacktastic
October 8th, 2012
2:15 pm
@Bird Nation: I think the Birds have learned the new schemes well enough to win, but are still a few games away from dominating on a regular basis. Smith mentioned last week that he thought we were still leaving plays on the field on both sides of the ball, and I agree that that’s what keeps these close games from turning into blowouts. But we’re on the cusp. The bye week will work wonders for this team.
Bird Nation
October 8th, 2012
4:00 pm
Greg Mendel
Speaking along the lines of egos, I don’t know what that was on the sideline between JJ and Robiskie but I do know that it seemed to light a fire under Julio that I don’t recall seeing since he’s been in a Falcons uniform. If he can play like that from here on out, it wouldn’t matter who’s calling plays for or against us, we’d be a team to be reckoned with for the rest of the year.
DHunt
October 8th, 2012
4:08 pm
On the question of MR2 holding the ball too long, I have a couple of theories. Considering we almost never get the camera angles to really analyze how things develop downfield, I freely admit these are just guesses based on circumstantial evidence.
On almost all of Ryan’s deep passes we see receivers having to slow down, wait, and adjust to balls. This could be a matter of miscommunication, but it happens too often and it happens to both deep threat receivers. People, myself included, used to say this was an issue of arm strength. I realized last year that it was actually a case of Ryan not releasing the ball early enough. When a WR gets even with almost any DB (corner or safety), that DB is beat on the deeper route. Period. Seems like MR2 likes to see his receiver running free before he feels comfortable releasing the pass. It’s not as much of a factor on shorter passes, although I’m starting to see a trend where Matt is waiting for receivers to make their breaks rather than anticipating them. Ryan has always had a laser on the short passes, which was why the long passes seemed so off. How can you drill the passes under 20 yards, yet float so many over 40 yards? Strange right? But on the deep ball, it only seems to float, because the receiver is having to pull up an wait for it.
If Matt was to release the ball a full second earlier, and lead the receiver, the completion percentage on those deep balls would skyrocket. He also needs to lead them back into the field of play, rather than put so many deep balls on the sideline. I think that comes from having conservative coaching, but he shouldn’t have to worry about picks on the deep ball if he just puts it where only his receiver can get to it over the top.
Falcons route combinations are also a bit sloppy. I saw several occasions where with only two players in pass patterns, their routes went too close to each other, thus allowing a single safety or a corner playing deep thirds to react to EITHER receiver. The redskins did the exact same thing on the D-Rob interception yesterday, as he was able to come off his man and step in front of a receiver he wasn’t even covering. At least the Skins were in a 5 WR set when that happened, so they can be forgiven somewhat for having two receivers in such close proximity. To Matt’s credit, he will usually not try to make those throws where defenders are clustered around his receivers, although he whipped a couple into coverage like that yesterday.
DHunt
October 8th, 2012
4:15 pm
Take away the blown coverage TD and the defense held the Washington offense to 3 points. Add to that the two or three opportunities we had to get close and at least score three, and this game was nowhere near close. We dominated the Redskins on both sides of the ball, and only our mistakes made their defense look like it was competing. The only thing the Redskins did well yesterday was Albert Morris. Babs missed him several times in the backfield, and the entire D-line and Linebacker corps needs to work on shedding blocks and getting to the ball carrier. It’s worth noting that the Redskins didn’t try to run at Ray Edwards, instead choosing to go up the middle or to whatever side John Abraham was on. It’s also worth noting that while running games usually get stronger later in the game, our run defense got stouter, and Morris did noting from midway through the 3rd quarter on
Wabe
October 8th, 2012
4:22 pm
Again, BL, we can agree to disagree here.
But, 12 yards per carry isn’t anything to nitpick about. Yeah, it’s more difficult to contain an explosive back when you’re dealing with a mobile QB, which is why I want to wait and see how our run defense will stack up with other backs as the season goes on. But, Morris was absolutely killing us on those tosses.
Again, you can consider it ‘nitpicking’ now. But, when you run into a Niners team or a Bears team in the playoffs that wants to run the ball and play good defense, we’ll need that run defense to be stout.
Just my 2 cents. It’s gotta get fixed. Can’t keep letting these backs gash us.
falcon21
October 8th, 2012
4:28 pm
DHunt, totally agree that Ryan does wait a little too long to release the long pass. I’ve seen it many times.Release a little sooner and he hits them in stride. JJ should have made that catch yesterday but he would have been down at that point, if he catches it in stride he scores,
JB Falcon
October 8th, 2012
4:45 pm
There’s been a lot of speculation on MR holding the ball so long. Everything I read leads me to believe the skins simply played good pass defense. Someone said they played a lot of zone, which allowed them to double team Roddy and JJ. Ergo, Gonzo had single coverage, piece of cake for him to get open. HD had a few good catches also.
Bird Nation
October 8th, 2012
4:49 pm
DHunt
Solid points. It’s also worth noting that there have been a substantial amount of missed tackles all the way around. Very uncharacteristic for a Mike Smith coached team.
Paddy O
October 8th, 2012
5:16 pm
historically, Ryan appears NOT to have good footing on grass fields – especially wet ones, and tends to air mail a lot of throws – for whatever reason – back foot slipping?
Paddy O
October 8th, 2012
5:20 pm
regarding Hawley, they apparently cross trained him to play FB; and as Roddy said – in practice he caught the ball. Seems a bit sad with Snelling & Quizz that we would appear to be so desperate, but . . . .
falcon21
October 8th, 2012
5:23 pm
Before anyone says I am hating on JJ, believe me, I am not. The man came on strong yesterday. I’m proud he is a Falcon.
Screen Pass
October 8th, 2012
6:24 pm
“My question to you all is this: Could it be that as Def. coordinators and head coaches get more game film, they are picking up on certain tendencies?” – Bird Nation
A safe assumption but every DC will take into account many factors when deciding their gameplan against us. One can theory craft against average talent vs our skill players/ O-line, our production and problems from past schemes, and basic statistics to get a feel for what an opposing DC faces and why they might choose certain plans.
We had BVG as our coach for 4 years here so that BBDB game plan the Skins used yesterday should not have been foreign to us at all…well except Koetter. This could explain why Ryan in the no huddle carved it up and moved so well right before halftime. Ryan in the no huddle has more freedom of play selection thus since he practiced for 4 years against that very style of defense, twas no sweat for him. The other possibility is that a 2 min drill offense tends to attack a defense in exactly the way a BBDB’s vulnerabilities concede yards versus big plays.
Today is my relax and enjoy the win day, if you are truly interested in such discussions feel free to ask more questions.
Wings
October 8th, 2012
6:33 pm
Unca’Bob – “I would think that open-air grass fields should have a ridge running down the center from goal post to goal post and slanting toward the sidelines for drainage. In a domed stadium there would be no real need to drain, and therefore would be more level.”
Is the field in the Dome flat? I know the outside fields are slanted. I was thinking about that ridge last week.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 8th, 2012
6:51 pm
Ryan is fast becoming top 3-4 QB in the leauge. If I can echo DHunt, he’s missing one very important attribute of an elite quarterback, that would be hitting his receivers in stride. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen Ryan connect with his receivers in stride for a long gainer, or TD. If anyone reads this and disagrees…please attach video link.
I am not entirely placing blame on Ryan, maybe the past offensive coordinator, or the new one, don’t beleive in go routes/seam routes, we do alot of post, slant (skinny post) routes. If anyone’s wondering why we haven’t been hitting on all cylinders in the passing game the last couple of weeks, it’s called film study. We’ve put enough stuff on tape the first three games that allowed the Panthers and Redskins to scheme to slow our air assault. Coordinators (defensive) are smart and capable, I’m kind of surprised we didn’t get schemed in the 2nd or 3rd game.
Koetter, earn your money! Call appropriate pass routes to counter the zone defense we’ve encountered the pass couple of weeks. If using Hawley is the best you’ve got…
Screen Pass
October 8th, 2012
6:55 pm
“Good points, Cagers. Bird Nation touched on stuff I’ve been thought about. It makes me nervous too, but what gives me hope is that a lot of problems ARE being addressed and corrected. Plus, the players and coaches seem to be working together to solve problems. They’ve all got egos, but I think the two biggest egos left at the end of last season. I like the 2012 attitude.” – Greg Mendel
Nothing to get “nervous” about…unless lessons are not learned and adjustments made. There were a couple disappointing issues from yesterday but there is much time to correct them. Hopefully Koetter is not a stubborn jackarse like MM was.
I noticed you mentioned military history yesterday. I have dabbled a bit in WW2 stuff, mostly unit histories and OOB type stuff as I play CM a bit. There are plenty of military people here, you or others might enjoy this ( http://www.combatmission.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=273&Itemid=459 ) “game”. The Combat Mission series is a great battalion/ company level simulator, give it a try it is pretty cool.
I was playing around with the Sun Tzu qoute thing, but since a few put them up I’ll play too;
“Know your enemy and know yourself, find naught in fear for 100 battles. Know yourself but not your enemy, find level of loss and victory. Know thy enemy but not yourself, wallow in defeat every time.”
“What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease.”
“All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.”
Unca' Bob
October 8th, 2012
8:11 pm
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THE TRUTH
October 8th, 2012
6:51 pm
If anyone reads this and disagrees…please attach video link.
I, er um, You brought it, you prove it.
Unca' Bob
October 8th, 2012
8:25 pm
Wings
October 8th, 2012
6:33 pm
Dern if I know, but it did seem like something fun to throw out.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
8:31 pm
I think a Matt v Matt superbowl would be pretty cool….But I agree about Ice and his deep throws, he never seems to be able to do what Cousins did yesterday, find a blown coverage and hit the guy in stride for at TD. I have seen him just barely overthrow countless receivers, and even last week, I almost got into a pissing match with someone (don’t remember exactly who) when I suggested Ice’s pass might have contributed to JJ barely stepping out of bounds on the long pass in the Carolina game…But yea, I have noticed he just dues not seem to make that play much at all.
Unca' Bob
October 8th, 2012
8:38 pm
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
8:31 pm,
You are correct. He did not do what MR2 did yesterday. Your talking about two intersections aren’t you?
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
8:57 pm
Unca, I knew that was coming as soon as I hit submit…But you know what I am talking about, I really have not seen Ryan hit a guy in stride who took it to the house since…..His first NFL pass….But look at Eli’s SB winning passes, not exaclty text book hitting guys in stride…Really, it is not that big a deal.
Unca' Bob
October 8th, 2012
8:58 pm
My bad. It’s that pillow thingy again. Everyone enjoy your evening, and above all, be safe.
Why is it no one wants to talk with me?
Paddy O
October 8th, 2012
9:02 pm
ay, interesting tidbit from tony G article: “i know i could play another 2 years” quote from the ageless wonder himself. So, perhaps 95% has been dialed back to 65%?
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
9:03 pm
But for those who attribute his lack of success of hitting guys in stride deep due to his holding the ball to long I say baahullst. He I have seen ice overthrow that pass too. Like I said, it is just not his strong point.
Unca' Bob
October 8th, 2012
9:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9gtPCny-UM
DHunt
October 8th, 2012
9:08 pm
To be honest, I really think yesterday’s sluggish offensive performance was far more about our execution that it was about the scheme we ran or the one Washington ran against us. If a team is willing to let you move the ball up and down the field 8-15 yards at a time, it makes little sense to stubbornly throw into two and three deep coverage. Especially with a team like ours that should be able to score on anyone, anytime from the redzone. Keep giving Julio, Gonzo, and Roddy shots at the endzone, or let MT33 catch a loose edge like yesterday.
And for the record, the Hawley passes to me seemed just a bit of wasted effort. In no way do they reflect badly on Matt or Joe. There simply have to be better options with all the talent on this team. Something like that makes sense to catch a defense off guard, like maybe in a goal line situation or really needing a first down. It’s not like he was wide open on either pass, and without being wide open it’s not going to be a very productive play. The first time he was actually in to block, and there wasn’t anyone for him to block so he leaked out on his own. The second time was planned. Both times he was going to get lit up had he caught the ball. Neither time did we really need five yareds that badly. Why risk having a big lumbering guy like that taking hits to his lower legs (you know ain’t nobody crazy enough to try to tackle him up high) and potentially injuring a guy we may need on the O-Line sooner or later? I’m sure he looked fantastic during practice. Damn near everbody looks fantastic in practice.
Paddy O
October 8th, 2012
9:11 pm
I seem to remember a finger tip catch by RW84 last year for a TD; that is pretty close to in stride. I tend to think our WR don’t run too many crossing patterns – except I remember HD against NO last year carving them up pretty well. Personally, it appears to me that the game plan we used in the 1st game has been altered – essentially been smitty balled a bit; so that Mike Turner is more integral. I realize balance is important, but I key on moving the ball. The coverage of JJ & RW84, while Tony G ate them alive for 100+ yards, – and, if we had completed those passes to say Snelling instead of Hawley – would have given us even better production. From watching our games when Ryan actually runs the offense, I am not sure opposing teams have enough talent to keep up with our guys – somebody every play is open – preferably, 67% of the guys in a pattern need to be open. Tony G had a GREAT day. Last week, RW84 had a gigantic day. Turner also played VERY WELL last week. Keep ‘em guessing. I still say it is inarguable that JJ was at fault for stepping out of bounds.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
9:14 pm
Unca, there were two balls that were thrown over 30 yards. Againt the colts, and against the Bucs. On both throws, JJ has to make pretty big adjustments and went to the ground to make the catch.
Paddy O
October 8th, 2012
9:16 pm
UB – that footage of JJ indicates we are NOT using him properly thus far. He blows past the colt defenders like they are wearing concrete shoes.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
9:20 pm
Yes pad, the finger tip catch was in stride, I don’t remember the distance of the pass…but it was not in the 40 yard range I don’t think…Again, the deep ball is not Ice’s strong point, he ain’t Matt Stafford where he can rope it for 45 yards out. On the OB play, I agreed to disagree until i can see it again, but even if he got the 2nd foot in, his momentum was pulling him OB…i don’t understand why that happened if the ball was anywhere near the sideline.
D3
October 8th, 2012
9:21 pm
Finishing up new post………..
RE: Matt Ryan Stride Thingy — I don’t like to throw this word around lightly because I’m as critical as anyone of our Birds, but this “in stride” debate seems to be a little bit of nitpicking. JMHO. Kirk Cousins had a beautiful stride pass for a TD, and followed it up with two interceptions to lose the game. I defer to the X and O experts, but it seems a more WCO setup plays to the “hitting in stride” passes. JMHO.
Almost done with new post……………
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
9:25 pm
Dhunt, agreed, I think they just played tampa 2 all day, so Ryan took what they gave him, hence, Gonzo putting up absurd numbers. I also noticed one of the great deep passers of our generation, Tom Brady, went underneath all day yesterday to WW.
falcon21
October 8th, 2012
9:32 pm
I agree with what you said D3 but ever now and then I would like to see Matt release the ball a little sooner on the deep throw. Anyway, I still would not trade Matt Ryan for any other QB in the NFL, he can and does get the job done!!! Matt is one of the best.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
9:32 pm
Agreed, it is nitpicky, but I also believe it has nothing to do with him holding the ball long yesterday, that is just him going back through his progressions due to him not liking what he is seeing. Game was closer than it needed to be by giving up 14 easy points.
falcon21
October 8th, 2012
9:44 pm
MB @ 9:20, JJ was unaware of where he was on the field, he should have got both feet inbounds with ease. As I said before agreeing with PaddyO, he is not much more than a rook so the field awareness will come with time but it should have been a catch.
Screen Pass
October 8th, 2012
9:44 pm
“RE: Matt Ryan Stride Thingy — I don’t like to throw this word around lightly because I’m as critical as anyone of our Birds, but this “in stride” debate seems to be a little bit of nitpicking. JMHO. Kirk Cousins had a beautiful stride pass for a TD, and followed it up with two interceptions to lose the game. I defer to the X and O experts, but it seems a more WCO setup plays to the “hitting in stride” passes. JMHO.
Almost done with new post……………” – D3
C’mon now D3, M. Ryan is clearly not finding all those blown coverages. There are prolly 5-6 each play and his poor eyesight just can’t find them. I mean, even if certain posters gave him the treasure map he needed to find all these blown coverages, his noodle arm couldn’t get the ball in that exact 1inch window to take advantage of it. Those kind of skills only seem to be present in back-up 4th round draft picks
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Screen Pass
October 8th, 2012
9:45 pm
BLOG monster check number 300456
falcon21
October 8th, 2012
9:47 pm
It was not my convo. my bad.
Greg Mendel
October 8th, 2012
9:51 pm
D3:
With respect, I’m not sure the Matt Ryan Stride Thingy is necessarily nitpicking or irrelevant. I say this, partly because I think Paddy O’s comment has merit, and because YACs don’t seem to amount to as many yards as I thought they used to or should. I may very well be wrong, but I think I’m seeing much more catch the ball, get hit, fall down, mission accomplished.
That may just me my own failing powers of observation. But Unca Bob’s YouTube link showed not only instances of Jones catching in stride, but catching at an angle that allowed him to twist out of a tackle and run.
I don’t presume to know what any of this means, and I don’t fault Ryan in any way. I just think I’m seeing more catch-and-stop (not that I’m complaining about catches) than I used to.
But, once again, I’m entering early codgerhood. And I coached soccer.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
9:52 pm
Again, I am not talking about getting both feet inbounds, I am talking about that ball being in a place where he catches it in stride and brings it to the house. I don’t get the feeling that pass was thown that well….since we are on the in-stride topic as we want for D3s new blog.
Matty Bicep
October 8th, 2012
9:55 pm
It is an arm stregnth issue. The longer it takes to get there, the earlier you gotta throw it. But really, the strongest arms in the NFL are Stafford, Cutler, and Vick….Neither of them won a playoff game last year either…So there ya go.
D3
October 8th, 2012
9:56 pm
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