Rate the Falcons Free Agents

Your Turn to Rate the Falcons Free Agents

Coming Back After All? (AJC)

Just a quick new thread before the “Changes to Falcons Defense” is finished. Rate your Falcons soon-to-be free agents on importance of re-signing.

1) Brent Grimes

According to reports, it appears the Falcons are intent on keeping. If Dimitroff and Co. can find a way to keep Grimes to a reasonable but fair deal, some of the other needed free agents, and fixing the OL, it would be a coup.

2) Curtis Lofton

The big debate centers on Lofton and how much to pay. He may still need some work on coverage, but he’s a known commodity and someone to build around. Hard to imagine him getting Patrick Willis money in Atlanta, though.

3) Harry Douglas

This ones a no-brainer. There’s no one proven after him, he’s shown he can play, he can take over for Roddy White down the road, and he solidifies the offensive arsenal for years.

4) Jason Snelling

He is extremely versatile and if he could make a permanent move to fullback, the Falcons could keep yet another weapon. He’s also insurance for an aging Turner.

5) Thomas DeCoud

He may not have been spectacular of late, but based on his 2009 season, he deserves another shot under a legit defensive coordinator and should be signed for a pretty reasonable price. He did fight off James Sanders for the starting position last year.

6) James Sanders

The ultimate insurance player for the Falcons. He gives solid depth and can play both safety positions. May even win the battle to start free safety. Excellent insurance for an oft-injured William Moore and has quality experience from his New England days.

7) Kroy Biermann

With the expected exit of John Abraham, this is a good move for insurance, excellent rotational play, and maybe even Nolan can use Biermann in 3-4 looks as an outside, rush linebacker. Like DeCoud, it should be a pretty reasonable price.

Mendoza Line

After here, it won’t be the end of the world if these players don’t come back.

8.) John Abraham

Yes, he’s been a great Falcon and been the only pass rush for the Falcons the last 5+ years, but he’s evidently also asking for an absolutely insane contract (reportedly around $12 million). Abraham had 9.5 sacks last year with 4.5 of them coming against the Jaguars and Bucs. He also has battled injuries, already had his snap count cut way down, and will be 34 next year.

9) Eric Weems

Assuming that Harry Douglas is re-upped, this one is fairly inconsequential. He was excellent as a returner and special teams player in 2010, not so much in 2011, and made over a million dollars. He’s never been a part of the passing game. It would be nice to get him back, but no way overpay.

10) Joe Zelenka

He’s been a great long-snapper and this one probably will get done as well considering it can’t be that much, but it’s hard to also imagine it being really difficult to find a good long-snapper.

11) Todd McClure

Sure, if he wants to come back and compete for his old job at a low cost, than fine. But it’s also time to get ready to start re-building this offensive line and bringing McClure back would just put that off for another year. Will be 35 this year and battled injuries all season in 2011.

12) Kelvin Hayden

If for some reason Brent Grimes does head out of town, than Kelvin Hayden would be an excellent re-sign for insurance purposes and could be a big value if he could ever stay healthy. If Grimes does come back, Hayden is surely not needed.

13) Mike Peterson

Just like Hayden and Weems, it makes a ton of sense to bring him back if other big time free agents leave. So if Lofton does opt for the max contract, than bringing him back would add veteran leadership and insurance, but if Lofton comes back, its simply time to move on and develop the young guys.

14) Chris Redman

Redman will probably be back out of the pure fact that the Falcons have done a pretty poor job of developing any other QB not named Matt Ryan. That likelihood is also increased since the Falcons don’t have many draft picks in April, but anything close to what he made the last several years, forget about it.

397 comments Add your comment

D3

February 28th, 2012
12:59 pm

Sorry Bird Cage Faithful, my other post (the follow-up to the previous one looking at the changes on defense) wasn’t quite finished in time and for whatever stupid reason, the system automatically cuts off comments after 7 days of the posting).

Well, anyway, new thread up. Feel free to keep talking about whatever you were discussing before.

Cheers!

tony

February 28th, 2012
1:24 pm

Brent Grimes
John Abraham if we cant get mario williams or robert mathis
Curtis Lofton
Harry Douglas
Jason Snelling
all others can kick rocks!

JB FALCON

February 28th, 2012
1:30 pm

D3, looks like the order you have the players listed is close to the order of importance. If you can get past the money thing on Grimes, it’s like UB said. He is the supposed #3 CB in the league. I just hope is knee holds up.
I’ve never been a fan of Weems but someone up there likes him enough to keep on keeping him. JA would be an asset but not at the money he’s expecting.

Little Richardd

February 28th, 2012
1:47 pm

Hope we don’t get caught up in how good everyone thinks Grimes is. How many times did we watch 3rd and long and he gets thrown on for a first down? Oh, I guess we blame Van Gorder for his play, I don’t think so. Time to move on unless he is reasonable and franchise tag money is not reasonable.

D3

February 28th, 2012
1:50 pm

JB — I have backed off on the Grimes thing. If they legitimately plan on signing him to be a Falcon for the long haul, than I have no problem paying the man his due. That being said, though, I do still have an issue giving him over $9 million a year. Of course if they figure Abe isn’t coming back, that’s 8 million right there and cutting Ovie will be almost $4 million. I can live it.

I’ve been up and down with Weems, to be honest. I think if he was intergrated into the passing game, I would feel a lot better about him. It seems as though he should be pretty good in the passing attack due to his shiftiness and quickness.

D3

February 28th, 2012
1:58 pm

Little Richard — Agreed. I just haven’t got caught up in the Grimes sweepstakes either. $10.6 is not reasonable whatsoever. Welcome to the Cage!

Honestly, it’s kind of hard to gauge what would be a reasonable and fair deal because it’s all over the map for cornerbacks. I think a 4 year deal (remember he’ll be 29 by kickoff in 2012), worth about 4 year / $38 million / $16 million guaranteed would be a fair deal. That would average out to over 9 million a year and if for some reason he declines quickly, than paying 8 million over the next two years is legit.

honest_abe

February 28th, 2012
2:01 pm

it’s easy to forget that grimes isn’t a spring chicken. this year’s available cb market is extremely weak. while grimes might be the best corner available it makes no sense to give him d. revis type money. i think a fair amount would be in the range of 7 mil.

imo you let all these fa’s go and throw the bank at mario williams. everyone keeps saying that falcons don’t have a chance but in a city starving for a star mario would fit that bill perfectly. he’d be joining a playoff team with a great owner in a pleasant city. can’t beat that. offer him 5 years 15 mil per yr/similar to peppers 6 year 91 mil contract. be bold dimitroff. only this time it would be a move that actually makes sense.

Little Richardd

February 28th, 2012
2:02 pm

As for Weems, how important is a kickoff return man in the NFL now? I do believe we could replace him on the punt return team and Harry Douglas would be a much more important cog than Weem. On Lofton, is he a real 3 down l’backer or not? We seem to get conficting reports from outsiders opinions and that of the Falcons. Snelling, time to move on unless reasonable. Ab’ham, bye bye let’s give Sidbury the go ahead!! Find some OL’s and let’s see if Ryan is the answer to a downfield. attack. I a

Joshua Malavenda

February 28th, 2012
2:07 pm

hmm to be honest are all replaceable eppecially being their is new dc and a new scheme being put into place but I do think they out of all of them lofton or maybe douglass are the most important because they dont have any eally experienced depth at their postions plus lofton is the one who calls all the plays and suposedly the qb of the defense so it might cause the same domino effect as did letting dahl walk last year. I Rahter let grimes walk and get brandon carr he is the right size for nolans press- man scheme and alot cheaper then grimes is. I also hope they keep bierman because of his versatility The rest I could care less about.

Little Richardd

February 28th, 2012
2:09 pm

I also find that D Franks has the tools to cover the void of Grimes gone. I also think that a Nolan scheme could possibly help Owens and if not there are those type of players available at camp time. Let’s not overpay for the second shut down corner and be stuck like our beloved ATL HAWKS!

honest_abe

February 28th, 2012
2:14 pm

once again i get that lofton is experienced and productive. but the nfl is evolving into a passing league and middle linebackers aren’t as important a position as it used to be. stud pass rushers and cover corners are much more vital to a teams success.

Little Richardd

February 28th, 2012
2:18 pm

NFL has long been as important run league as passing. It’s the balance that makes a team great. We all remember June Jones chuck and duck offense. How impressed we’re we? Lofton is a very good player, question is the money and is it 2 or 3 down dollars? Also on the corners, never seen a set make the DL’s look like studs but seen plenty of DL’s make corners look like studs.

honest_abe

February 28th, 2012
2:23 pm

sorry little richard but you’re wrong. the nfl is changing it’s rules which give the advantage to passing offenses. just check the numbers over the past 2 years. see how many qb’s just threw for over 4,000 yards. teams don’t place as big an emphasis on the running game and that’s a fact. is a running game still important of course but not nearly as much as having a proficient passing attack.

Little Richardd

February 28th, 2012
2:28 pm

New York Giants – Super Bowl Winners, balanced attack! NO GB/NO or Patriots. Good try though. I will take a balanced attacked team any day over a one horse buggy. At end of day those are the big take home winners in the league. Check history its available.

honest_abe

February 28th, 2012
2:39 pm

little richard: oh boy you’re sticking your foot in your mouth. please don’t get into an argument in which you know absolutely nothing about. either that or check that history which is also readily available to you.

last year’s super bowl participants new england and new york giants were #2 and #5 respectively in passing yards. #4 & #6 in passing touchdowns.

the year before green bay vs pitt were #5 and #14 respectively in passing yard. #4 & #21 in passing touchdowns. (steelers always a slight aberration)

2 years ago indy vs saints #2 & #4 in passing yards. #1 & #2 in passing touchdowns.

3 years ago ariz vs pitt #2 & #17 in passing yards. #3 & #18 in passing td’s.

except for pitt which has also shifted it’s offense to a much more vertical attack you can see passing offenses are what succeeds in today’s nfl. consider yourself edu-mu-cated.

honest_abe

February 28th, 2012
2:42 pm

a few more facts for you to chew on…..

there were 10 teams that passed for over 4,000 yards! 2 for over 5,000!

compare that with the 2002 season in which…

there were 4 teams that passed for over 4,000 yards the highest being 4,400.

still think balance is the key? time for a reality check.

honest_abe

February 28th, 2012
2:46 pm

a few more interesting facts for the cage.

last year the five offenses avged more than 9 yards/pass
green bay
new england
new york giants
new orleans
pitt

atlanta came in at a paltry 7.3 which was good enough for 13th best. o-line & scheme were a factor but matt ryan needs to look downfield more if this team is to be more “explosive”.

Little Richardd

February 28th, 2012
2:49 pm

Wow, so none of those teams ran the ball? Tell me those stats and where each ranked. And where the Falcons one of those teams over 4,000 yards? And how many times did we win with less than 100 yards rushing per game and lose with less than 100 per game? Won’t win in the NFL without a balanced attack that only happens in youth league football.

mark

February 28th, 2012
2:50 pm

None of the above except maybe Douglas if for no other reason than I think with the new offense we should be seeing a lot more 3 wide sets. IF Grimes and Lofton can be resigned at a reasonable price then fine, other wise let them walk. I would rather spend the money picking up a Mario Williams and Ben Grubs. We can draft corner and put Dent in for Lofton.

honest_abe

February 28th, 2012
2:53 pm

Wow, so none of those teams ran the ball? Tell me those stats and where each ranked – little “brain” richard

um. i originally said that offenses were transitioning more towards the pass. it’s not opinion it’s fact. that doesnt’ mean teams stop running but with new rules geared toward player protection and not allowing safeties free shots at receivers over the middle the passing attack is becoming close to unstoppable. dude at some point it’s better just to shut up than continuing to look like an ass.

honest_abe

February 28th, 2012
2:54 pm

green bay just won a freaking super bowl without a balanced attack! what the hell are you talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

honest_abe

February 28th, 2012
2:56 pm

apologies for the childish rant. welcome to the cage. just please try to refrain from giving absurd points. all in a day’s work. peace.

falCANS

February 28th, 2012
3:33 pm

WOW!!! DO YALL EVEN WATCH THE GAMES??? NOBODY THROWS TO B.GRIMES!!!! PERIOD!!!! IF HE IS NOT A SHUT DOWN CORNER HE IS THE CLOSEST THING TO IT. HE IS GETTING UP IN AGE BUT HES FREAKISHLY ATHLETIC AND CAN COVR ANYBODY!!! JUST ASK THE DETROIT LIONS WHEN THEY GOT WHAT THEY WNTED: GRIMES SINGLE COVERAGE DOWNFIELD AGAINST MEGATRON AND WAT HAPPENS???? GRIMES OUT LEAPS CALVIN JOHNSON AND SWATS IT. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THEY SWITCHED MEGATRON TO D.ROBINSONS SIDE AFTER THAT???

falCANS

February 28th, 2012
3:42 pm

GRIMES, AND PETERSON ARE THE ONLY MUST SIGN PLAYERS…….GRIMES BECAUSE HE CAN TAKE AWAY A RECIEVER AND PETERSON BECAUSE HE IS THE “SWAGGER” OF THE OFFENSE. MUCH LIKE DAHL WAS TO THE O-LINE. #50 IS A QUIET LEAD BY EXAMPLE TYPE BUT NOT THE TYPE TO CREATE “D-BLOCK” IN THE LOCKER ROOM NOR RALLY THE TROOPS. HD IS A MUST SIGN IN PERFECT WORLD AND IS SEVERLY UNDERRATED BUT WELL C HOW MUCH $$$$ HE WANTS

D3

February 28th, 2012
3:47 pm

One of the things I’ve contended since we started this off-season / free agency talk is that due to our somewhat limited salary cap space and only having 2 picks in the first four rounds, we’re pretty handcuffed on how many positions we can makeover in one off-season. That’s why I think we bring back DeCoud and Snelling and you won’t see us getting rid of any big names like Turner or Dunta.

Lofton is the most intriguing to me. I just have no idea on how much A) the organization values him and B) how much he and his agent see his worth. I would feel comfortable with a 7.5 million a year deal. Anything getting close to Jon Beason or Patrick Willis money is ludicrous. He would be making more in fact than Jonathan Vilma.

There’s also a very interesting part to Dunta Robinson’s contract. After this year, we would no longer owe him any money of his guaranteed money apart of his contract (at least according to the cap hit numbers). So the point Big Ray made the other day actually holds a lot weight. Perhaps we are looking to keep Grimes and have to suck it up for a year before we can get rid of Dunta outright. That would also give us one more year to see if Franks, Walls are a legitimate starting CB to take over for the departing Dunta.

Interesting………

Ken Strickland

February 28th, 2012
3:55 pm

1-BRENT GRIMES-We might think we can do without resigning Grimes, and we could very well be. However, as much as most of us like to think we know what’s best for the Falcons, none of us knows what has made Nolan’s DEFs so successful better than Nolan himself. And he apparently feels strongly enough about Grimes to believe he has the ability to make his DEF better, so he should and likely will be resigned. WILL BE RESIGNED.
2-CURTIS LOFTON-I believe the idea that Lofton is nothing more than a 2 down LB is pure BS. If you look at the top rated MLBs/ILBs, like BUrlacher(102TT), PWillis(97TT), and RLewis(95TT), you’ll find that none of them come close to Lofton(147TT) as a run stopper. That’s because his primary responsibility was to stop the run, since our run DEF was so weak before his arrival, so he attacked the line of scrimmage and did his primary job very well. He hasn’t had the benefit of a big butt DT in front of him for protection and to give him extra time to read and react. WILL BE RESIGNED.

3-HARRY DOUGLAS-EWeems is the closest thing to a proven WR that we have behind him, so enough said. RESIGN HIM.
4-JASON SNELLING-We won’t likely find a proven RB that’s move versatile than he’s been. He’d give us a RB that plays both RB positions, and is an excellent receiver out of the backfield, blocker, and primary runner.
5-THOMAS DECOUD-The issues that have been sighted about his deficiencies at FS are all correctable with some decent coaching, which we now have. He’s still young, and his decline from his excellent rookie yr started immediately after we went to that stupid soft prevent zone approach. Despite his deficiencies at FS, he, along with Grimes, were the best playmakers in our secondary. RESIGN HIM.
6-JAMES SANDERS-He’s a starting caliber safety that can play both safety positions, and we’re lacking in quality experienced depth at both safety positions. RESIGN HIM.
7-KOY BIERMANN-He’s proven to be an excellent backup DE, and he wasn’t a wash as a starter. He’s probably our best option as a 3-4 rushing OLB. RESIGN HIM.
8-JOHN ABRAHAM-He’s far from being an every down player, and his performance against winning teams over the last few yrs won’t help us win a single playoff gm. LET HIM WALK, PLEASE!
9-ERIC WEEMS-With the new kickoff rules, he’s more valuable as a punt returner and on K/P coverage teams. HE’S EXPENDABLE.
10-JOE ZELENKA-While he can be replaced, what would be the benefit. Resigning him would eliminate having our holder and FG kicker spending time adjusting to a new LSer.
11-TODD MCCLUE-If he wants to return at a reasonable price and willing to compete for the position, the RESIGN HIM.
12-KEVIN HADEN-Most of you have stated your reservations about us signing certain starting LTs because of their injury history, so why would we consider resigning a CB with the same issues? LET HIM GO.
13-MIKE PETERSON-If he want’s to return, then RESIGN HIM. He can play inside or outside LB.
14-CHRIS REDMAN-We have to seriously consider upgrading our backup QB positions. We should be able to sign a vet backup QB for less than we’re paying him. We also need to draft one as well. LET HIM GO.
ANTOINE SMITH and VANCE WALKER are both restricted FAs, and will be resigned. If we need addition cap room to sign the FAs we need, we can always gain cap space by trading JBabineaux, SBaker, and/or OMughelli, or releasing them. Releasing Babineaux would necessitate us drafting and DT. I don’t think PJerry will be released.

Anderson

February 28th, 2012
6:16 pm

D3,your assessment and rankings were on point. I can live with John Abraham departing. It sure would be nice if the Falcons can someway somehow land Mario Williams. If not,Robert Mathis would be a nice second option.

Ken Strickland

February 28th, 2012
7:53 pm

Considering how LT WSvitek’s performance last yr at LT was head and shoulders better than anyone we had at RG, look for RG to be our top priority on OFF. I think we’ll put most of the FA money that’s not committed to resigning our in house FAs to upgrading Nolan’s DEF. I believe we will likely sign a FA RG, draft an OC candidate, and leave Svitek at LT.

The money we’ll save with these moves will be used to draft or sign a DT(especially if Babineaux is released or traded to gain additional cap space), DE(especially if Abraham isn’t resigned), CB(if Hayden isn’t resigned), and LB(especially if MPeterson isn’t resigned) . I believe the thinking at Flowery Branch is that our OFF, as inconsistent as it was, especially our rushing OFF, scored enough pts to make our team much better if our DEF is sufficiently upgraded. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

RUDEDAWG

February 28th, 2012
8:15 pm

Nobody gets it! Why is it a big discussion about shrimpy Grimes. He’s a liability in run game and against bigger wideouts. Please lets not pay all this money to this pratice squad player. Let him go!

Paddy O

February 28th, 2012
8:27 pm

d3 – this is a cool, quick post. simple, and fairly effective. however, i think zelenka & redman come back fairly cheap, and fill needed roster spots. Plus, I see Weems, ABE & Peterson still being effective in their roles provided the price is right.

darrell starks

February 28th, 2012
8:48 pm

RG3 is the real deal, i like Matt but if im GM i would trade Ryan and 2013 1st for him, MARK MY WORD RG3 WILL BE BIGGER THAN VICK who could have been the best QB in history of the game if kept his self together and stayed focus on football.

If im the Falcons i pull the trigger, just imagine RG3 AND THE AVATAR WOULD BE THE SCARIEST THING IN NFL HISTORY.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

February 28th, 2012
8:52 pm

Colts have to be crazy to pass on this guy RG3.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

D3

February 28th, 2012
8:52 pm

Good article by Pat Y…..

He says that we aren’t under a ton of salary cap pressure as we speak, but if we were to re-sign Grimes, Lofton, and HD, than it sure would get tight.

He offered the usual names up for possible cuts including Sam Baker and Ovie Mughelli. Baker is scheduled for $2.6 million against the cap (although Spotrac.com says $1.951 million) and Ovie is scheduled for $3 million (Spotrac.com says $3.833 million). These are no-brainers as far as I’m concerned.

Pat Y mentions in the article about the Falcons giving Baker another chance, but says that the coaches were probably trying to be nice. I agree. It’s all well and good to give a guy another shot (especially a former 1st rounder), but not at the cost of $2.6 million (or $1.951 mill) when we will need the money for several positions, mostly OL.

Here’s a crazy name that he mentions………………..Jonathan Babineaux. I had absolutely no idea that Babineaux is turning 31 this year. I was literally blown away. I guess I just assumed that Babs was like 28 or 29. Wow, shows you how time slips up on you. His reasoning was that Babineaux is scheduled to count $4.6 million against the cap (once again Spotrac says $5.696 mill). Very interesting indeed. I would have to say that Babs probably isn’t going anywhere, but if they really wanted some dough to completely revamp the defense (big boy DT), than I guess it’s possible. Still don’t really see it though.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/54366/falcons-whos-on-the-hot-seat

LRD

February 28th, 2012
9:15 pm

while listening to the radio today, heard an interesting one. Slap the franchise on Lofton and then work to sign grimes with money saved.. and then look for Loftons potential replacement.
Its an interesting take.

JB FALCON

February 28th, 2012
9:19 pm

D3 @ 8:52. Your post was very well written and made a lot of sense but you have to believe the FO has researched the entire picture way more than we have. I too didn’t even consider Babs as anything but a rock that we keep.
We have six more days until we start to get any idea whatsoever what the Falcons’ plans are. You are either signed, franchised, or free to test the market.
TD, so far, has made a major change, FA, draft, trade, or whatever, every year since he’s been here and waiting to see what happens is like watching paint dry.
BTW, today was my 31st anniversary and I forgot it until mid-day. Sometimes you have to react on the spur of the moment to save your butt! I have faith in TD & Co to make the right moves.

Wabe

February 28th, 2012
9:42 pm

I really wish they’d make a run at Paul Soliai. He’s being highly pursued. But, I think having him on the inside of this defense instantly bolsters this line. The production of both Peters and Edwards should be better with a guy in the middle that commands double-teams.

He’d also help us fill that void of a big NT if we decide to trot out some 3-4 looks.

I really hope we chase this guy. Let Abe walk – and don’t worry so much about filling that void. Go after a big NT!!!

PoolerSpirit

February 28th, 2012
9:44 pm

If we let Babs go…. and if Jerel Worthy’s available at #55…. How’s that sound to ya’ll?

Wabe

February 28th, 2012
9:44 pm

I know the argument against pursuing a guy like Soliai will be that we don’t wanna tie up a lot of money into one player. That’s a valid argument.

But, I still think he alone makes our other investments that much better. So you pay one, and you upgrade the impact of others on that line around him. Pursuing him would make more sense than going after a guy like Robert Mathis or any other DE for that matter. We need inside-push.

falcon21

February 28th, 2012
9:48 pm

Congrats JB, #30 is next for me and I better not forget. Darrell, you are good dude but I cannot see giving up on Matt for an unproven rook. Have faith buddy, Matt will get it done.

darrell starks

February 28th, 2012
9:57 pm

D3 Great post.

1, Grimes 5 year 30 mill 15 mill signing bonus nothing more.

2. Lofton 6 years 40 mill 20 mill signing bonus nothing more.

3. Harry 4 year 10 mill nothing more.

4. Jason bring back, can play both fullback and tailback.

5. Thomas very underated in my opinion needed a new DC must bring back.

6. Sanders very solid backup that should be starting must bring back.

7. Kroy let him walk, but i do like Atlanta house wifes lol!!!!!!!!!

8. John 3 year 18 mill 10 mill signing bonus nothing more.

9. Erik let him walk.

10. Joe who ?

11. Todd back up time here was solid

12.Kelvin should be starting in the nfl this is a must for the Falcons.

13. Peterson let him walk.

14. Redman let him walk.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

JB FALCON

February 28th, 2012
10:00 pm

Wabe, Soliai, or whtever, played for Nolan last year and is is a FA. Go figure!

waynester

February 28th, 2012
10:01 pm

I read something the other day about using Peters at NT along with Babineaux in 3/4 sets. Looks awfully lightweight to me… did ya’ll See Poe at the workouts? It’s amazing how a guy that big can move that fast. He certainly looks like a pro NT already!

waynester

February 28th, 2012
10:05 pm

I love Mike Martin from MICH. despite short arms–the guy just brings it every time, any drill, every play. He’s a dadgum FOOTBALL PLAYER!! Probably 3rd rounder, deserves to go higher….

marko

February 28th, 2012
10:09 pm

I’m not sure about Lofton. Picking Dent in the third round seemed a little strange at the time. I can see using Dent as our run stuffer, and Weatherspoon moving into the middle on passing downs. I’m not sure we wouldn’t actually be stronger on third downs. God knows we need to be. We’ve got to be one of the worst in the league on third and long.

Rumors suggest we could franchise Grimes. I would think this depends on what he’s asking. If he wants more than the birds think he’s worth, they could rent him for a year, and address the position next year when we’ve got our full complement of draft picks.

Abraham has really benefitted from playing in Smiths system. His snap count has been limited; even so he been on I.R. pretty often. If he test the market, and doesn’t find what he’s looking for, I’m sure he’ll find the light on at Flowery Branch. I think the Falcons would love to have him back if the price was right.

Of course this is pretty much idle speculation. We’ve got a new Sheriff in town. Nolan’s known as three four guy. We’re told to expect a four three with elements of the three four. I know what the man said, I just haven’t got a clue as to what he meant.

For me the off season has always been like a good murder mystery. This shapes up to be the most interesting Spring time we’ve had since Mike and Thomas saved us from the Petrino creature. at any rate we’ll have a better idea of where this things headed after the free agency period’s over.

Michael

February 28th, 2012
10:38 pm

I like the order with the exception of Grimes. I think he should walk and they commit dollars to Mario Williams. A great pass rush will make avg corners look great. Besides, they have a phenomenal talent in Chris Owens who can run back punts…has excellent speed. He needs to take Weems spot in the return game and challenge Franks for the other corner.

Hamad Meander

February 29th, 2012
12:19 am

Build from the front to the back. It’s one thing to spend mad money on Dunta Robinson, but to pony up even bigger for Grimes is not spending smart money. Lofton is too important to let go, and he seems to be the fulcrum of the defense. Spend the money and bring him back. Douglas and Snelling are important pieces of the offensive puzzle, but big money doesn’t need to be spent on them. I’d love to have them back though.

Abraham – $12 million a year? Really? I think if you look at defense ends, sometimes it’s hard to see in the stats where the impact was. Sacks alone do not define the position. This money is better spent elsewhere if he wants $12 million.

We aren’t going to be excellent on both sides of the ball, so I feel we need to continue to get excellent on offense and that means bringing in better offensive linemen. Let’s focus on that in free agency and add some parts in the draft.

Big Ray

February 29th, 2012
1:13 am

it’s easy to forget that grimes isn’t a spring chicken. this year’s available cb market is extremely weak. while grimes might be the best corner available it makes no sense to give him d. revis type money. i think a fair amount would be in the range of 7 mil.

imo you let all these fa’s go and throw the bank at mario williams. everyone keeps saying that falcons don’t have a chance but in a city starving for a star mario would fit that bill perfectly. he’d be joining a playoff team with a great owner in a pleasant city. can’t beat that. offer him 5 years 15 mil per yr/similar to peppers 6 year 91 mil contract. be bold dimitroff. only this time it would be a move that actually makes sense.

Oh man, don’t say stuff like that. I’m already trying to not get addicted to the “I want Mario Williams” idea. In this, you and I have very, very similar thoughts….

Big Ray

February 29th, 2012
1:15 am

Wabe ,

That’s the one major alternative to going after a guy like Mario Williams. A big NT (or DT, however you view it) ALWAYS bolsters a defensive line. You can get buy with non-dominant, non-pro bowl guys at DE when you have monsters on the interior.

And in the end…it probably costs less…

Big Ray

February 29th, 2012
1:20 am

D3 ,

I saw that article by Pat Y. I agree, the whole thing on Babs was interesting, and anytime you start looking at cap numbers, a lot of stuff begins to have your head spinning. Remember – “no sacred cows” – right?

I don’t know that I see Babs going anywhere either, but he had a down year last year. Injuries and what not. Still our best DT….for now. That honor might go to Peters before we know it. I can see Peters next to a bigger DT in the near future, but I don’t know how near.

As for Dunta and Grimey….the theory I put forth is only a theory, and we can only hope that this is what the FO is wanting to do, and can do it reasonably. If so, then we get to have our “trade Grimes on a longterm contract for DRbob on a longterm contract.” IF not, then I don’t have answers or ideas, just disappointment, because until we see how both guys are under Nolan, I’m not at all convinced that we have a Pro Bowl level tandem at this point – and if we’re giving both guys double figure millions or thereabouts, for several years – they both need to be playing at a pro bowl level.

Ed

February 29th, 2012
1:26 am

14) Chris Redman
Redman will probably be back out of the pure fact that the Falcons have done a pretty poor job of developing any other QB not named Matt Ryan. That likelihood is also increased since the Falcons don’t have many draft picks in April, but anything close to what he made the last several years, forget about it.

In all honesty, just how well do you think the Falcons have even developed Ryan D3? IMHO not very well and this is not critizing anything Matty has done. I simply feel he could do so much more and I place a lot of blame for that on the coaching staff.

As far as the top free agent, Harry Douglas wins in a landslide. As you said he can replace R White down the road and if used properly will thrive in the slot next year. Once again our coaches held him back, especially MM as to how he utilized him. With HD in the lineup our receiving corp is the true strength of this team