Falcons Edge Bucs

**Apologies for the comment section being closed. A miscommunication error on my part. The new post should allow for comments to be open now**

Observations From the Bucs Victory

A new and longer post will be coming shortly, but for now here’s some observations from the NFC South victory over the Bucs.

*The Dome was pretty rockin’. Moreso than any other game this year….IMO

*Ryan looked good and efficient today. Not too many deep tries

*Turner looked in top form, hopefully that’s great going forward.

*Gonzo has had a little case of the dropsies lately (at least for him b/c he normally catches everything)

*Michael Palmer was an amazing UDFA steal. He’s in the process of replacing Justin Peele as we speak.

*No Gartrell Johnson sighting. Antone Smith made a few appearances. Looks like Gartrell was a one time deal

*Really waiting for the middle tier WR’s (HD, Weems, BFinn) to make an impact. BFinn did make some nice conversions, but HD and Weems were absent once again.

*O-Line seemed to do pretty good today overall.

*What’s more to say about Spec Teams. Its been a problem ALL YEAR and it almost cost us again.

*Not saying that’s the only reason we played poorly, but that 66 yard return when we’re up 14-0 was a momentum killer.

*Anyone who says that rookie Spoon didn’t and hasn’t made an impact wasn’t watching today.

*Decent pressure today, but nothing spectacular.

*Let’s hopefully chalk up D-Robs toast moment to his first game back (but the whispers are beginning on that FAT contract)

*Don’t understand what coma comes over MM and CMS when we’re up. It’s like we have a Staples Coma button we smash when we’re up by more than 10 points.

*All the goodwill that Spec Teams Coach Keith Armstrong has built up has officially gone away.

*Spec’s single-handedly allowed TB back in the game TWICE!

*While Weems gets 3 yards on a return, a young and talented Bucs team is able to change the game TWICE with their special teams.

*Saw a good rotation of Corey Peters, Peria Jerry, and Vance Walker at DT today.

*Even though he totally made up for it, Grimes allowing that 3rd and long at the Bucs 1/2 yard line was unbelievable (and BVG is getting back on the salt block).

*Mark Bradley wrote a good article. “A very unsuspecting 6-2 football team tied for NFC lead”

*TB will only feed off the game they had today with their head coach. Assuming the bottom doesn’t fall out, it would be hard for me to argue us winning @ Tampa Bay…..just saying on the way we played today.

*Our run defense continues to be extremely impressive.

*Perhaps our great run D is a reason our pass D gets picked on so much.

*A lot of big 3rd down conversions today by Matt Ryan.

*Still say our WR depth is weak.

*Either that or MM just doesn’t use #3, #4, and/or #5 receivers in his offense.

*Had a chance to put this one away fairly early and Specs let’em right back in. Granted, defense was pretty bad too, but those kick returns changed the game.

*BVG needs to get Willie Martinez out of his head. Attack and attack. Not sure our front 4 is good enough to not blitz.

*Enough of this bend-but-don’t-break stuff.

*After coming out with a good gameplan, MM completely shut it down and nearly cost us. PEDAL-TO-THE-MEDAL!!!!!

Please Add Your Observations from the Game.

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Chop Buster

November 9th, 2010
3:01 pm

D3, we still have the SAME secondary, special teams, and offensive playcalling issues. Granted the playcalling was better in the beginning and once we got a lead…let’s play to not lose the game.

LRD

November 9th, 2010
3:32 pm

As far as Grimes giving up the long ball.. with Freeman standing in the end zone we had NO pressure on him. I blame that long ball almost as much on the lack of pressure than I do coverage.
Drob was burned. pure and simple. happens to all of them, but he looked flat all game. Better be fresh for Thurs
Spoon: We need him for Thurs. Ray Rice coming out of the backfield could to destroy us..and we need someone to shut him down.

Chop Buster

November 9th, 2010
3:35 pm

Since we are without Spoon and need coverage of the RB or TE, why don’t we put Moore in the LB position and Coleman back at the SS position? Our coaching staff just seems to not have a bone of creativity in their bodies.

Ueeediot

November 9th, 2010
3:36 pm

I think WR depth must be looked at during the draft. I am still really want #85 from Arkansas….that kid is a beast.

commentators spent hours talking about a 1-7 team this week (sorry, Carolina, not you.). Friday they will be talking about a 7-2 team. Just win baby.

ymmotretsof

November 9th, 2010
3:39 pm

I don’t know but to me the defence seemed to let up a bit once we went up 14. The worst part of the game was special teamms gave up 2 touchdowns that put them back in the game.That coach needs to be fired if he can’t put a better team than that on the field.D3 calls Weems one yard Weems I understand that completly.I’m sure Mike Smith sees this and it frustrates him too.If he doesn’t watch it could cost him a job down the road.And thanks D3 for not doing your blog like Ledbetters I don’t like that one at all.

Ueeediot

November 9th, 2010
3:40 pm

Chop, instead of playing guys in positions which are not natural to them, why not scheme to take away what the Ravens _want_ to do and force them to do the things they are not as proficient.

Paddy O

November 9th, 2010
3:42 pm

RE: Weems – You remember the play where four falcon blockers were lined up ahead of Weems, and ONE Buc comes screaming down the field, the 4 blockers opened like the red sea & Weems got hammered – tackling & blocking are similar actions – I don’t our tackling & blocking on special teams is very good at all – our guys still tend to line up like storm troopers attacking a Jawa Crawler – the squib which Spurlock picked, two guys were essentially trailing each other – that should not occur in high school. Dunta sure looked like he was still suffering from the concussion – his line of attack after the catch was such a joke he fell down laughing about it – or at least it sure looked that way. Grimes made a fantastic tackle after getting beat – I don’t have a problem with Grimes, and none really with Dunta with the exception of the large contract, which is really NONE of my business. Our D line is really darn good – I saw a lineback blitz!!!!!!! Holy Surprise, BVG! At this point, Smith needs to completely analyze his special team play – it will cost us if we qualify for the post season.

Ueeediot

November 9th, 2010
3:44 pm

Has anyone noticed how Morris walked out of this game and told any media outlet that would listen about how the Bucs were “just one yard” from taking first place in the NFC South.

Excuse me for paying attention Raheem, but even if your team had scored on 3rd or 4th down there was more than 2:30 left in the game and the Falcons had time outs with Tampa up by ONE point.
I think you were a wee bit more than “one single yard” from victory.

Paddy O

November 9th, 2010
3:46 pm

Also, everyone see Tony G make a cross block on a rush that allowed Ryan complete a pass, to I believe Finneran for a 1st down? That was some good blocking stunt, which we had not shown. Also, using Snelling on a screen was good – but would still like to see him in there more. BUT, Turner played great in 1st half, seemed to disappear in the second. We still lack a killer instinct. Really, really hope Roddy in not hurt seriously.

Paddy O

November 9th, 2010
3:48 pm

NOte: We did start the game run, run pass – we just happend to get a first down off that. I realize we think we are a ball control team, but if we got aggresssive, I think we could average over 35 points a game – we have a good offensive team.

Chop Buster

November 9th, 2010
3:49 pm

Ueeediot, who are we going to use to take the things the Ravens wants to do away? We play too much SOFT zone coverage, by time we react the play is completed. We don’t have a history of imposing our will and have always been reactive–instead of proactive. Since we know that Nicholas’ weakness is coverage, why not cross-utilize the guys we have? It will be better than watching Rice burn Nicholas–or our other slow LBs all day.

Ueeediot

November 9th, 2010
3:59 pm

I dont think you can game plan or scheme in the NFL on that type of logic. Youve got a LB corp and secondary that has gotten you to 6-2, and taken one of the best teams in the league to OT.
One has to scheme using the players in the most natural position and let them go out there and play with instinct.
The D-Line needs to step up, take the pressure off, and stuff the run. One or two sacks from the front four would be a welcome addition, especially early. There is an age old adage in the NFL that says if you can hit their QB early, and hard, you greatly improve your chance of winning.

Chop Buster

November 9th, 2010
4:30 pm

Ueeediot, Smitty actually cross-utilizes some of the positions on the team already. Belichick does it all the time–that’s why he drafts guys that can be utilized in multiple positions. Kroy even kicked off last year I believe. My point is Spoon and Moore aren’t too far off body wise. BVG can teach Moore the LB position as a backup–or to do something different with the defense to throw teams off. I’m just saying we need to be more creative. You can game plan using anyone one on the team you want to plug in to a position as long as you’ve teached it to them. I agree that the D-Line needs to step it up to take the pressure off of our secondary and get to Flacco. Because there’s no doubt in my mind that the Ravens will be coming after Ryan; and I hope Mularkey is game planning to counter their blitzes.

Bangkapi Ajarn

November 9th, 2010
4:32 pm

I am worried about injuries coming into the Ravens game –

Falcons list of limps (bruise bulletin??) –
WR Brian Finneran (knee/ribs) LP
TE Justin Peelle (groin) DNP
LB Sean Weatherspoon (knee) DNP
C Todd McClure (knee) DNP
LB Curtis Lofton (knee) LP
QB Chris Redman (not injury related) DNP
RB Jason Snelling (knee) LP
WR Roddy White (knee) DNP
CB Brian Williams (hamstring) LP

On the other hand, the Ravens only list ONE player – Safety Tim Zbikowski (foot)

Damage Inc.

November 9th, 2010
4:39 pm

Anybody know the spread?

Bangkapi Ajarn

November 9th, 2010
4:43 pm

Damage – Last I saw, Ravens favored by one

Ueeediot

November 9th, 2010
4:44 pm

Can we move Redman to the IR now?

Ueeediot

November 9th, 2010
4:44 pm

USA Today, Sheridan has Falcons -1.5

FrontRow

November 9th, 2010
4:55 pm

Ueeediot – thanks for pointing out the clock situation. With more that 2 minutes left, 3 timeouts, and Matt Ryan at the helm, 2 minutes is an eternity.

In a short week, anybody that has a scratch will be held out of practice (Falcons are barely practicing anyway) so the injury list does not bother me. If they DNP or LP then, by rule, the Falcons must list them.

Roddy White was announced as questionable for return in the Bucs game but the guy kept running out on the field only to be called back – seems like he was trying to sneak back into the game (gotta like that).

Finally – TYVM D3 for getting up another great post – we were all getting a little antsy in D’led land.

SOMEBODY NEED TOO TELL THE TRUTH

November 9th, 2010
5:20 pm

The defense is lacking, I’m being generous, Grimes is a helluva little coner, giving up that long ball to the buc’s, with them penned deep at the 1 yard line, is not a knock on his skills or talent too play coner, the reason we can’t get a adequate pass rush and give up big passing plays are 2 fold. First, plain and simple, we do not have the personel at the ends to give us a consistant pass rush, father time has caught up with Abe, with all the motor that Bierman has he can’t get off blocks and he’s pushed around like a shopping cart. With that said, the Talent at DT is the only thing thats holding that line together.

Secondly, The anemic passrush and sparatic secondary coverage, IMO is directly portioned too scheme. The coners play 5 to 7 yards off receivers, dunno who came up with this genius idea, the league allows the coners to bump or chuck the receiver 5 yards pass line of scrimmage, this is very important for 2 reasons, it throws the receivers route off, which interupts timing and throws the entire play off, which causes the quarterback to hold the ball longer and look for other options, guess what happens when the ball is held longer, better pass rush, resulting in sacks and turnovers. The 5 yard chuck would also give the coners an even playingfield, to say the least. Maybe we don’t have the talent to play up close on the line of scrimmage, or even press coverage, ahhhh, that wouldn’t be true either, didn’t we pick up a shutdown 50 million dollar man, he never crowds the receiver either, must be scheme.

Can VanG. design, or call a blitz that work? I commented earlier about the poor passrush from the ends, a strong and dominant defense must bring pressure from the basic front 4 package..ie NY Giants. We can’t do anything about talent level this far in, but we can scheme to get better results.

Sarah B

November 9th, 2010
5:30 pm

Falcons by ONE is the line! So that tells they don’t have a clue who will win this game.

BT

November 9th, 2010
6:01 pm

The negatives and the positives have been covered well enough.
Must be a sad guy that can`t never see any of the positives, though.

The bottom line, it was a huge win.
That`s a positive that can`t be overlooked.

BT

November 9th, 2010
6:03 pm

I think, it`s official.
Spoons injury is more serious than we were led to believe.

Paddy O

November 9th, 2010
6:11 pm

Positives – we shoved around the best team in the NFC, their coach got jittery and lost his composure, forgetting his QB is a pretty good passer, and our run defense it top 5. =/- – we should have won by more – our offensive protection became more sophisticated, and kept Ryan upright practically the whole game. I felt throughout the game we were kicking their butts. I am also positive that their is a foundational problem with our special teams – no way they should still be giving up the same big plays in week 8 as were seen in week 1-3. Do we use the wrong personnel? The Red Sea play was excrutiatingly embarrassing, and I am fairly sure weems was not too keen on it either. Still feel Weems is not a big problem on returns, and I am satisfied with our starting position on the field.

Paddy O

November 9th, 2010
6:12 pm

Simple question – why keep kicking to Spurlock? Lack of in-game intelligence?

BT

November 9th, 2010
6:20 pm

Moving forward on Special Teams…according to DOL.

Nicholas joins coverage unit

Linebacker Stephen Nicholas, who’s set to start at strongside linebacker, has also been enlisted to help improve the kickoff-coverage unit.

The Falcons are re-arranging the unit after giving up 209 yards to Tampa Bay’s Michael Spurlock.

Nicholas, who led the team in special-teams tackles last season with 13, has been added to the unit along with Biermann.

BT

November 9th, 2010
6:26 pm

NFL-N is breaking down Falcons and Bucs game on the NFC playbook show.

ymmotretsof

November 9th, 2010
6:56 pm

We all know how they got that close and I’m sure the head coach is pissed.It my be to late to change special teams coaching this year but a change may be in order next year.I see Weems as a good backup at returner not as the main man.He doesn’t have the speed to break the big one.Getting down field to stop othr returners has never been this bad.Are these guys afraid to hit someone are they afraid they’ll get hurt.I did see one block in the back during the touchdown returner but the runner had already gone by him.There is very little time to address this problim in such a short week but down the line it has to stop.We are at 6-2 with half a season to go time to show that we are among the best.A thought about thursday nights game.I hate Ray Lewis and wish he gets both his legs broke at the knee.He does not and never will belong in the hall of fame.He came to Atlanta and a man he was around got killed.He bought he’s way out and people who forget those kind of thing praise him.He gives the NFL a bad name!

JJ

November 9th, 2010
7:26 pm

BT

November 9th, 2010
6:20 pm
Moving forward on Special Teams…according to DOL.

Nicholas joins coverage unit

Linebacker Stephen Nicholas, who’s set to start at strongside linebacker, has also been enlisted to help improve the kickoff-coverage uni

BT, you may want to rewind the tape my friend. Nicholas IS THE reason why they scored on that return. Look at the tape, he blew it but thats football, its happens. The real news is not Nicholas (who already plays on ST) but Bierman (who used to but hasnt this yr with his starting gig.). Bierman used to be a ST star before his upgrade. I’m sure Nicholas will do better this week, last week was pathetic. Go falcons and earn your $$$ DUNTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JJ

November 9th, 2010
7:29 pm

All CB’s get burned from time to time, so no picking on you DR. But you claim to be THE shut down corner, shut down mason on thursday night and all is well in falcon nation!!!

Sarah B

November 9th, 2010
7:33 pm

Chop Buster I’m with you on cross-training. Did you watch The Saints VS Steelers game? With all the Saints CB’s out on injury they had to use 5 safties and that worked out pretty good for them didn’t it? – Cross train.

Sarah B

November 9th, 2010
7:35 pm

DR did still seem to be suffering from the concussion on Sunday. Head injuries are no joke.

Sarah B

November 9th, 2010
7:35 pm

D3 glad the blog is back up and running – Thanks!

BT

November 9th, 2010
7:37 pm

JJ,
I took that right off DOL`s article.
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/its-been-feast-or-734956.html
That said, I do seem to remember Nicholas whiffing on that return..
NFL replay tomorrow night on NFL-N.
No doubt, I will re-check.

JJ

November 9th, 2010
7:46 pm

D3, ditto…tks for all your work!

BT, didnt mean to call you out, we just have diff. facts and I’ve watched too many replays, bp is settling down after sunday. Still love my FALCONS!!!

SW, where art thou? We need your boy thurs.!

LRD

November 9th, 2010
8:35 pm

Read somewhere that it is basically sweats and jerseys this week. So we do have time to “heal” a bit I guess…so hopefully everyone will be up and ready, cept I expect Peele and Spoon still to be out.
BT: Agreed, this is very worrisome on Spoon. Jerry last year, Spoon this year, I would be worried if I was a first round defense pick for ATL with the ongoing record here ( let alone Baker too)

Yeah, were is SW>… been very quiet from the teepee

Sportaree

November 9th, 2010
8:44 pm

Don’t forget Vets. We have a free pregame meal at Applebees Thursday.

D3

November 9th, 2010
8:48 pm

Great Back Live Day Cage Family!!! — Really sorry for the blog being closed the last few days. It was a miscommunication and I do apologize. Hopefully won’t happen again. Also, as you can see the post is less than stellar. I basically had to get something up to open up the posting again. The Ravens preview coming soon will be better.

Hope all of you are doing well as we roll so close to GameDay! Kind of weird when you go from waiting for Sunday to waiting for Thursday (for more obvious reasons). I know I may have come off a little negative, but there were plenty of positives as well. We’re 6-2 and tied for the NFC lead. My skepticism is that we have so many games left and New Orleans appears to have things rolling again.

Back to working on new post. Will try to have it up tomorrow, so we can feast on the game of the week! Cheers Cage Fam…….

Officially sending an SOS for our dear friend Seminole Warrior. You’re amazing and inspirational words of wisdom are sorely missed in here my friend! Come back soon.

Sportaree

November 9th, 2010
9:02 pm

D3
Please be content with the fact that you are doing the best that you can.
Keep up the good work.

ymmotretsof

November 9th, 2010
9:25 pm

Good night to all you bloggers out there in blogger land.

Sarah B

November 9th, 2010
10:20 pm

I didn’t realize I didn’t have a life beyond football till the Cage went down. Gotta get out more… or not… I’m quite happy this way.

Wabe

November 9th, 2010
11:26 pm

Big game coming up Thursday night.

Big Ray

November 10th, 2010
1:49 am

Complaints about the defense where the LBs are concerned – you see why we drafted Spoon. Nicholas is a capable backup, but he does not add the dynamic that we need, particularly in coverage. Spoon does.

As far as the secondary goes, I don’t know what to say. Dunta Robinson is a sure tackler, but he has missed some routes and given up some yardage. He’s not trash, though….just not a shutdown guy for us right now.

The D-line isn’t quite getting the pressure I want to see them get. Despite that, they are generally doing well against the run.

Ed

November 10th, 2010
1:55 am

Excellent observations D3. Your statement, *Enough of this bend-but-don’t-break stuff” is dead on. I’ve never liked a defense that doesn’t attack…what a difference Greg Williams would make. He’d have them dialed up and rarin’ to go blitzing like crazy. As far as our WR depth, you know how I felt at draft time that we desperately needed help there. Would still take Dez Bryant over Spoon for what he would mean to our offense this year and down the road. Of courese you need an OC that would know how to use a pairing of White / Bryant and MM is definitely not that person.

Unca' Bob

November 10th, 2010
8:12 am

Happy Birthday to the United States Marine Corps. 235 years young. Simper Fi!!

LRD

November 10th, 2010
8:47 am

just heard on radio that Spoon, McClure and WHITE are all doubtful for Thursday.. and that even Lofton is on the cusp of doubtful.
That does not bode well.

SOMEBODY NEED TOO TELL THE TRUTH

November 10th, 2010
9:22 am

Happy Birthday Marines, being a veteran of the United States Navy, I’ve had the pleasure of serving with you guys on a number of occassions, we work extremely well together. The Marines and Sailors are a cohesive unit.

SOMEBODY NEED TOO TELL THE TRUTH

November 10th, 2010
9:30 am

Not good news to hear White, McClure and Lofton doubtful for Thursday Night, Spoon I’m not so concerned about, the team has learned to play and win without him, we are lucky too have a suitable replacement in Nicholas, depth for the others, not so much.

I think there might be a little strategy involed in listing White, McClure and Lofton as doubtful, these guys will play, you can bet your azz on that.

LRD

November 10th, 2010
9:44 am

Oh, dollar to doughnuts that they will be out there.. too big of a game not too, and I dont want them to hurt themselves even more, but they do have 10 days until the next game….

FrontRow

November 10th, 2010
10:15 am

LRD are you kidding? Roddy White was trying to sneak back in LAST week.

Spoon (rookie) won’t get the choice but he vets know how to play hurt.