Battle for S#4 – Veteran or Youth?

Which Safety Will Make the Cut?

 

The Bird Cage Training Camp Battle Series, Fight for Fourth Safety Spot: Matt Giordano vs. Shann Schillinger vs. Rafael Bush. Even though not a highly regarded battle, the Falcons will look to finally develop a player at safety and possibly not just reserving it for special teams duties only.

Rotating Door to Steady Depth

One of the lesser known and noticed training camp battles on the entire roster involves several players competing for one spot as the last backup safety position on the roster. The position has been a revolving door of sorts the last two years, having players such as Jamaal Fudge, Antoine Harris, and Eric Brock rotate on the roster and soon rotate back on. The main duties have included being a special teams ace and rarely seeing much action on the field. That could change this year with William Moore’s constant injury issues and the Falcons possibly looking to develop a player to take the position on a more permanent basis. One of Thomas Dimitroff’s lesser known moves was to sign former Colts and Packers safety Matt Giordano in the off-season. The veteran will be in a heated competition with surprising 6th round draft pick Shann Schillinger and Undrafted Free Agent Rafael Bush. Will the Falcons go for depth or youth as they look for the final safety position?

Matt Giordano

The journeyman backup was signed by Thomas Dimitroff in the off-season and was well under the radar after Dunta Robinson got all the headlines with his big contract. Giordano didn’t get much action at all last year due to injury and only got on the field for 5 games, snagging only 2 tackles. Statistically, he had his best season in 2007 where he played in 12 games for Colts, started 4, had 20 combined tackles, 4 passes defensed, and 2 interceptions. Giordano is known for his special team abilities and that may simply be what Dimitroff had in mind when he inked him. Giordano may represent another name in the vein of Antoine Harris and Jamaal Fudge where he offers little more than work on special teams. Maybe he can bounce back and not only press for special teams time, but also get in the mix if William Moore continues to be injury prone. He will be in a tough fight with both Shann Schillinger and Rafael Bush because you have to think that if they’re close, then they’ll go for a developmental player.

Shann Schillinger

Hailing from current defensive end Kroy Biermann’s alma mater of The University of Montana, Schillinger had really good production during his tenure for the Grizzlies. Even though he didn’t start as a sophomore, he was 10th on the team with 45 tackles. Schillinger really came into his own his junior year after starting “in all 16 games and was Montana’s second leading tackler. He led the Grizzlies with 10 pass deflections. He had a team-leading (tie) four interceptions. He also tied for the team lead in forced fumbles (two) and fumble recoveries (two)” (NFLDraftScout.com). Schillinger also had a very good senior year with 90 tackles and 4 interceptions. The former Montana safety brings a very nice set of ball skills with nice size (6’0, 202) and surprising speed (4.5 forty). Schillinger may not be the flashiest of names, but he appears to be an all-around very good and tough football player capable of covering, good hands, crushing hits, and making plays on the field. The big question, like all small school athletes, is whether or not the player is something special or if he’s simply a product of very weak competition. Schillinger would certainly make the most sense due to the fact that he could finally be a player they could develop as opposed to treating the spot like a revolving door.

Rafael Bush

Definitely the player with hardest route to the roster, Bush represents another player who will try to defy odds and go from being an undrafted free agent to making the active 53 man roster. John Parker Wilson was the only player to make the jump last year, but his past year’s draft class was one of the deepest in history. He already stands a good chance at least at a practice squad spot since he’s one of the few safeties and defensive backs eligible for that position. The other undrafted free agent safety, Gabe Derricks, was let go a few weeks ago to make room for Agnone at tight end. Following his collegiate career, was named to the South Carolina State All Decade Team. Bush made 222 career tackles in his time at South Carolina State. As a senior, was the fourth leading tackler on the team with 54 while recording three touchdowns. Last season was also voted the Defensive MVP by his coaches. Is versatile in the secondary as a cornerback or safety. Bush will be in the biggest fight of his career to make the huge leap to the active roster, but he surely may have a good change at a practice squad spot.

What Say You? (Your Turn)

-Who takes the backup safety duty?

-Giordano for depth or Schillinger or Bush for youth?

-Is it a bigger battle than expected with William Moore’s health issues?

-Will the Falcons finally make this position more than special teams

352 comments Add your comment

D3

August 11th, 2010
11:15 pm

Two Men and a Truck……….

Moose

August 11th, 2010
8:10 pm
Well TLewis is out again………..

Wednesday, August 11, 2010
5:13 pm S Shann Schillinger on where the Falcons have him lined up: “I’m playing free now, but I’ve played strong as well. You meet as a whole secondary, so you see what both positions are doing.”

5:12 pm Rookie S Shann Schillinger on playing safety: “You have to be disciplined and pay attention to detail. At safety you’re in charge of making a lot of calls, so you have to show you’re reliable in doing those things.”

5:11 pm RB Antone Smith on having a chance to latch on at special teams: “Hopefully this Friday (against Kansas City) I’ll get a chance to catch a few returns or cover a few kicks, whatever it may be.”

5:09 pm RB Antone Smith on making the most of the extra carries he’s getting while RB Jerious Norwood (hip flexor) misses practice: “I’m just trying to get a job and showcase what I can do.”

4:54 pm DT Trey Lewis and LB Coy Wire did not practice Wednesday afternoon. The reason for their absence has not been disclosed.

12:27 pm In the first preseason game last year, TE Tony Gonzalez played the first two series. He said the coaches haven’t told him how much he’ll play yet but that he anticipates it to be around the same.

12:26 pm TE Tony Gonzalez on if he anticipates a nostalgic feeling this Friday against Kansas City: “No, I’m going to approach this game like I approach every game. Anytime you step on the field, you have to bring it.”

12:21 pm WR Brian Finneran on avoiding an injury-prone mindset: “I don’t think about it that often. You just have to go out there and play. If you think about your injuries, there’s a good chance you’re going to get hurt again.”

12:19 pm WR Brian Finneran on how he feels physically: “My knees feel good. I had a little back issue early in camp that I got over quick. When you’re 34-years-old, camp is never fun and doesn’t feel great. But I’m feeling all right right now.”

12:17 pm Coach Mike Smith on where DL Jamaal Anderson fits this season: “I think he’s going to be more productive this year at the DT position. … He’s put on 20 pounds from the end of last season, and I think that will help when he’s playing inside.”

12:15 pm Coach Mike Smith on DL Jamaal Anderson’s role against Kansas City on Friday: “I think he’s going to have to pull some extra time in the game … just simply because of the total numbers we have available for us on the DL.”

12:14 pm FB Ovie Mughelli is hoping to be involved more in the passing game this season. “I’ve had hands since the ’80s,” he said. “I’m trying to get as involved as possible. Then maybe people would look at me more than just a decoy.”

12:12 pm FB Ovie Mughelli on RB Antone Smith’s somewhat emergence in training camp: “He has almost as much speed as (RB) Jerious (Norwood), and having that leverage as part of his height, he’s able to get underneath people and explode through the line.”

12:10 pm FB Ovie Mughelli on the running game: “I want to keep moving forward. I know with us working together in the third year, most of the OL, myself and Michael Turner, they’re understanding this offense better. Now we can go out there and be physical.”

12:06 pm RG Harvey Dahl on how the OL has progressed through training camp: “I think we’re coming together well. We’re refining our skill. … At this point it’s getting the little things down.”

12:06 pm RG Harvey Dahl doesn’t mind having a “nasty” reputation as a football player. “It’s the way my philosophy is,” Dahl said. “Football is a physical and violent sport.”

11:40 am DT Thomas Johnson (Achilles) practiced Wednesday morning.

11:40 am LB Curtis Lofton, who missed Tuesday’s afternoon session, practiced Wednesday morning.

11:39 am CB Brian Williams (ACL) participated in a few group drills Wednesday morning, as Williams said he would on Tuesday.

LinkReport this comment.Unca’ Bob

August 11th, 2010
8:43 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13743098/finneran-on-another-comeback-trail-for-falcons?tag=pageContainer;TeamNews

LinkReport this comment.DePlane

August 11th, 2010
8:46 pm
If the coaches thought Bergeron was the answer I think we would know it by now…he has never really been given the opportunity…back and forth to the PS…but there is a reason they haven’t.

Harvey, Wolfe…one of them may stick…Tim Buckley…don’t hear much about. Strickland…don’t hear much about. Does putting Finn in the #2 spot while Jenks is rehabbing tell you anything? Maybe…but we all know the history…he has battled back each and every time and has the heart of a lion. Would love to see him stick around and I think one of the rooks beside Meier would have to show pretty well to press him. Weems is not exciting as a KR, but he didn’t stink it up too bad either…but having Franks to ease into the job could change all that…he has break away speed that Weems lacks. Either way, both are dual purpose so bodes well for them. Is Harvey or Wolfe a better keep than Weems if Franks takes the KR job? Too early to tell for me. Let us see them in some pre-season games and we’ll have something to compare.

LinkReport this comment.CBrass

August 11th, 2010
8:51 pm
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-training-camps/09000d5d819af0df/Inside-training-camp-Falcons

LinkReport this comment.DePlane

August 11th, 2010
8:53 pm
BA…I inquired with a friend of mine about barberi bread and this is what he told me:

They don’t have them fresh baked, but they bring them to the two Persian stores. One is on roswell road (called Shahrzad), the other has two locations, one on Jones bridge close to McGinnis Ferry (called Global Foods import I think), the other is global on Alpharetta highway north of mansell.

Good luck!

LinkReport this comment.Bangkapi Ajarn

August 11th, 2010
9:04 pm
DePlane;
Great info, thanks! Best I know, there is one bakery in Dallas that does it fresh, bought it once in St. Louis, just in that day.

A strange yen I know, but back in the day when I was in Iran we used to get fresh baked barbari bread pulled out of the oven along with a small packet of honey, take them out to the base in the middle of nowhere, and eat part for breakfast with fresh brewed tea, saving the rest for lunch with a can of something. I developed a taste then, and just kept it I reakon, I just hoped that in such an international metropolitan area there would be a convenient source. Sounds like it is definitely doable north of town. Thanks again for the great intel!

Football wise, I am thinking Finn more and more if he stays upright as the #2 receiver, he has been tested and found dependable in pressure situations against live competition. Looks like he may stick for one more year while the young blood develops.

LinkReport this comment.John Waynesworld

August 11th, 2010
9:22 pm
BA, I can see its specter on my page but alas it is only visible to me. lol I fear it is a goner.

I will also be ticked to see some of these young WRs go, just like I felt last year when we cut Danrren Mougey, the 6′5″ drink of water from S.D. State (who is now trying to take Bouldin’s old spot at Arizona). Or worse if any go in our division.

I’m penciling in Kerry Meier just because Coach has said his name 5 times more than any other player. Another reason is that his name is on the depth chart. I am also stamping the tickets for Finn and Weems, once again due to their being special teams stars, and being named on the depth chart. That leaves:

1) Troy Bergeron – His career can be summed up in the song “Gloom, Despair, and Agony on Me” where it says “If it weren’t for bad luck I’d have no luck at all…” He’s out.
2) Tim Buckley – My dark horse if he turns into a blur in the preseason.
3) Brandyn Harvey – We have got to keep this guy, unless there is more to his headaches. Let’s wait until he gets rocked in realtime and see how he gets up off the ground.
4) Andy Strickland – I can’t see this one. He’s out.
5) Ryan Wolfe – He may survive by making the practice squad.Probably not.

Another thing about cutting one to keep another. Leave the WRs alone for a minute. Would cutting Chevis Jackson to keep Dominique Franks sit well with everybody? Would Smitty even consider it at all? I think not. So even a draftee may get the shove. What about Shann Schillinger? What has he done and already Coach is saying he was made for special teams? Which veteran safety has to go in order to accomodate a good rookie ST player and a 2nd year rookie who is always hurt (Moore)? Giordano or Coleman? See ya, Matt. Good luck with the rookies, Erik.

Cutting down to 53 is going to suck. I can see a one maybe two familiar names getting cut, but pretty much ALL of the undrafted rookies and free agents.

LinkReport this comment.DePlane

August 11th, 2010
9:58 pm
BA….my pleasure.

JWW…I have to agree with you..all the UD rooks and free agents are on the bubble. For once this is a great problem to have. But I would love to see one of them emerge and make it really difficult on the coaches decision. Watching the way this staff operates, I’m confident they will make the right decision come cut time.

LinkReport this comment.DePlane

August 11th, 2010
10:00 pm
For some reason they really like Schillinger…so I would not be surprised at all to see him make it. Very athletic player…

LinkReport this comment.Sarah B

August 11th, 2010
10:35 pm
Wow, ya’ll have been posting up a storm. It took me a while to catch up. Can’t wait for Friday!

LinkReport this comment.sportaree

August 11th, 2010
10:57 pm
Sarah B

Looks like the folks at the Cage are already starting to agree to disagree.
I’m looking forward to Friday night also not only for the audition for the #2 Temporary? WR spot but the other position battles as well

Sarah B

August 11th, 2010
11:33 pm

D3 that’s a hell of a way to block thoughs stupid first comments. LOL

Sarah B

August 11th, 2010
11:34 pm

‘Those” damn must be late…

Screen Pass

August 11th, 2010
11:51 pm

Schillinger’s physical “tools’ make it an almost necessity to keep him around to try and develop him. 6′0 + 4.5 speed = potential diamond in the rough…the others, meh…they might be ok but tactics, leadership, and game knowledge are all learned. Height and speed can’t be taught so Schillinger has the “highest” ceiling so to speak.

pritdapit

August 12th, 2010
1:19 am

Ed

August 12th, 2010
1:48 am

You da man D3…thanks for the updates. I say SS stays, as he’s TD’s guy, this of course if he plays as excpected in preseason. He seems to be fundamentally sound with good size and quickness for a safety. Also, I like Brandyn Harvey and hope he makes the squad over any of the holdovers. That would mean he has played well and we have someone with playmaking abilities at WR.

waynester

August 12th, 2010
8:40 am

I’m kind of dreading the cut-down to 53, too. Whomever we cut will be a great player and yes, I know that’s where you aspire to be every season, but it’s going to be painful when other teams start raiding our practice squad for guys we really wanted to keep around. When the league finally agrees to an expanded schedule the rosters should expand too, but I guess, for now, I’d put Giordano on the PS(if he has any eligibility left) since I believe it’d be less likely for anyone to try and grab him since he’s got some mileage on him. In general, I like the youth movement we’ve been building, but the safeties really need to be on the ball and sometimes there’s no replacement for experience when it comes to setting the defense. Good subject D3–this is one of the most critical decisions TD/Smith will make this year….

WR

August 12th, 2010
9:17 am

Safety doesn’t appear all that difficult to decide IMO. You have locks in Decoud, Coleman, and Moore, with the talent at the corner position the Falcons have options with Brian Williams playing either corner or as a back up safety. That leaves maybe a spot for an additional safety and if Shann Schillinger excels at special teams he’s in, Bush has practice squad potential and as a journeyman there’s no real need to take up space for Giordano.

Coop

August 12th, 2010
9:45 am

SS makes the 53 and Bush hits the practice squad. If we need a vet S due to injury, Giordano, Fudge, Smith, or somebody will be available.

Coop

August 12th, 2010
9:56 am

Wow, sorry I missed the rest of the Weems discussion. Thanks for the backup D3. I guess it’s good that we’re arguing about #4 WR and #4 S.

WR – That wasn’t a cheap shot. Calling GT a lousy college team is a compliment. :) BTW, just to show what karma’s like, my sister (huge GT fan) just moved in with me while her new house is being built. 5 months of in house fighting.

BKJ

August 12th, 2010
10:03 am

What happnes if Brian Williams gets shifted to safety? Coach Smith has said he can play all 5 positions (including nickel). With that versatitiliy he may be more valuable than Girodano.

LRD

August 12th, 2010
10:35 am

Coop: I think you nailed it.. who on this board would have thunk it, that we are arguing over the #4 in a position? How many years did we just wish we had a reliable #2.. anywhere? AND that teams may pick up some of our cuts?

as SW would say.. Folks that is THE PROCESS.

Coop

August 12th, 2010
11:52 am

BKJ – I think that versatility of Williams does make Giordano expendable. I think we keep 6 CBs with Williams also able to cover down on S. That way you get that Vet presence you’d be keeping Giordano for. Honestly, I think he was just brought in as insurance in case Moore stayed hurt or Shillinger didn’t work out.

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
12:12 pm

You’re right LRD, it is a refreshing feeling compared to other seasons. However, alot of us are hoping that some of our #4s take spots away from some of our #2s.

Ever since, dare I say…Peerless Price, Falcon fans have been suspicious of so-called #2 WRs. Price was a heralded #2 out of Buffalo when we got him in 2003 to be our #1. Turns out he had #2 numbers his last year because they were triple teaming his all-pro teammate Eric Moulds, and he had Drew Bledsoe to throw him the ball. The last time we had a true #2 (and we didn’t call it that back then) was in 1999 with Tim Dwight (32 catches, 669 yards, 7 TDs) working with #1 Terrance Mathis, and before that with #2 Mathis (62 catches, 802 yards, 6 TDs) working with #1 Bert Emanuel in 1997. Mathis may have been designated the #1 but Emanuel outplayed him by a bit that year (65 catches, 991 yards, 9TDs). There were other Falcons seasons with 2 receivers catching a majority number of passes, but their touchdown production was so low I left them out. You could have also called Finn the #2 to Alge Crumpler in 2005, but I don’t count TEs in what should be a WR category and I also don’t count WR receiving stats on teams with running quarterbacks because those stats are too misleading.

So by the numbers we really haven’t had a #2 receiver the past couple of years, we had (and have) a #1, a #3, a #4, and a #5. Or we have a #1 and everybody else. At WR, this is the perfect position for a trial by fire experiment with a rookie. The worst a rookie could do in this position is…drop passes. Ahem.

In the Safety position it is also rather cloudy. We have a couple of veterans that nobody in the NFL would call either a #1 (Giordano, Coleman), we have a potential #1 playing as a #2 (DeCoud), we have an permanently infirmed #2 (Moore), and a bunch of raw rookies. This is definitely a position where the #4s need to stay #4s at least while they learn.

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
12:21 pm

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GIVE ME BACK MY THOUGHTS!

JMANye

August 12th, 2010
1:05 pm

Like the dude from montana. Prolly wont do much with him though. Special teams your haert out young man.

Moose

August 12th, 2010
1:18 pm

Girodano was picked up for ST but with Franks and Schillinger in the fold I would beat he’s the odd man out and Bush has a chance at making the PS……….

Moose

August 12th, 2010
1:23 pm

JWW….. Are your post even showing up?……. I had a few long winded ones that never made it so I am guessing we may be getting timed out………

CBrass

August 12th, 2010
1:26 pm

The fact that Williams can play all 5 spots and knows the defense so well is something that the coaches can’t look past. I agree. I think that Girodano is the odd man out.

Moose

August 12th, 2010
1:31 pm

Hey Cbrass……Trey Lewis is back….. We;ll see…… Also have to agree with SW on his take with the depth we are looking at this year that a few trades may be in order for players like Trey…. To me he is more of a 3/4 lineman and there are some teams out there that might bite…………

CBrass

August 12th, 2010
1:33 pm

Moose,

Hear what both you and SW are saying but I hope that we hang on to him.

Moose

August 12th, 2010
1:34 pm

Catch what Dominique Franks says about Brandyn Harvey….. Thats a hell of an indorsment coming from a fellow rookie trying to make the team…….

Rapid Reports

By Jason Butt

Thursday, August 12, 2010

11:41 am DT Trey Lewis, who missed practice Wednesday afternoon for a reason not disclosed, practiced Thursday morning.

11:34 am With CBs Dunta Robinson and Brian Williams out Friday, attention turns to CBs Brent Grimes and Chris Owens in the secondary. Both started games for a Falcons team that finished 28th in pass defense in 2009.

11:26 am CB Aqib Talib and LB Barrett Ruud are not practicing. Coaches have said both are nursing strained groins but should be able to play Saturday.

11:21 am CB Dominique Franks said he’s eager to see what rookie WR Brandyn Harvey can do Friday night. “He’s going to be a big name and help this offense,” Franks said. “I think he’s going to surprise a lot of people with his playmaking ability.”

11:18 am Rookie CB Dominique Franks on seeing his first NFL action: “I think putting that uniform on and being in the Georgia Dome will make me think what it is to be a part of a great organization, and knowing I made it to the NFL.”

11:17 am Coach Mike Smith on looking closely at his defense in third-and-short situations: “It’s an area we didn’t excel last year.”

10:58 am Coach Mike Smith said LB Sean Weatherspoon will start at weakside LB, meaning LB Mike Peterson (calf) is one of the nine to 11 players that won’t play Friday. Peterson missed Thursday morning’s practice.

10:52 am Coach Mike Smith on what he’s looking for in a preseason game when he’s not scheming: “We’d like to see some physicality, that’s the one thing we’re looking at. It’s only our second time we have to evaluate our defensive players in tackling.”

10:49 am WR Harry Douglas (ACL) saw his workload increase Thursday morning but will not play Friday against Kansas City. Coach Mike Smith said the plan for Douglas is to “possibly play next week” with limited snaps against New England.

10:48 am Coach Mike Smith said nine to 11 players will not participate in the preseason opener Friday against Kansas City. He declined to list the inactives.

10:47 am Listed as the No. 1 CB on the depth chart, CB Dunta Robinson (hamstring) will not play Friday against Kansas City, coach Mike Smith said.

10:41 am TE Michael Palmer (groin) practiced Thursday morning.

Moose

August 12th, 2010
2:07 pm

More love for the Falcons…….. Dunta says he’s good to go…………

Vastly improved Ryan has Falcons poised to catapult Saints

http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/story/09000d5d819a9d5c/article/vastly-improved-ryan-has-falcons-poised-to-catapult-saintst&campaign=Ext_email_NL0812

blord

August 12th, 2010
2:19 pm

Rise up Antone Smith…I am pulling for you to make an impact.

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
2:53 pm

FOCK!

You’re right, Moose, I’ll just give iddy bits…

You’re right LRD, it is a refreshing feeling compared to other seasons. However, alot of us are hoping that some of our #4s take spots away from some of our #2s.

Ever since, dare I say

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
2:54 pm

…Peerless Price, Falcon fans have been suspicious of so-called #2 WRs. Price was a heralded #2 out of Buffalo when we got him in 2003 to be our #1. Turns out he had #2 numbers his last year because they were triple teaming his all-pro teammate Eric Moulds and he had Drew Bledsoe to throw him the ball. The last time we had a true #2 (and we didn’t call it that back then) was in 1999 with Tim Dwight (32 catches, 669 yards, 7 TDs) working with #1 Terrance Mathis, and before that with #2 Mathis (62 catches, 802 yards, 6 TDs) working with #1 Bert Emanuel in 1997. Mathis may have been designated the #1 but Emanuel outplayed him by a bit that year (65 catches, 991 yards, 9TDs). There were other Falcons seasons with 2 receivers catching a majority number of passes, but their touchdown production was so low I left them out. You could have also called Finn the #2 to Alge Crumpler in 2005, but I don’t count TEs in what should be a WR category and I also don’t count WR receiving stats on teams with running quarterbacks because those stats are too misleading.

So by the numbers we really haven’t had a #2 receiver the past couple of years, we had (and have) a #1, a #3, a #4, and a #5. Or we have a #1 and everybody else. At WR, this is the perfect position for a trial by fire experiment with a rookie. The worst a rookie could do in this position is…drop passes. Ahem.

In the Safety position it is also rather cloudy. We have a couple of veterans that nobody in the NFL would call either a #1 (Giordano, Coleman), we have a potential #1 playing as a #2 (DeCoud), we have an permanently infirmed #2 (Moore), and a bunch of raw rookies. This is definitely a position where the #4s needs to stay #4s at least while they learn.

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
2:55 pm

…Peerless Price, Falcon fans have been suspicious of so-called #2 WRs. Price was a heralded #2 out of Buffalo when we got him in 2003 to be our #1. Turns out he had #2 numbers his last year because they were triple teaming his all-pro teammate Eric Moulds and he had Drew Bledsoe to throw him the ball. The last time we had a true #2 (and we didn’t call it that back then) was in 1999 with Tim Dwight (32 catches, 669 yards, 7 TDs) working with #1 Terrance Mathis, and before that with #2 Mathis (62 catches, 802 yards, 6 TDs) working with #1 Bert Emanuel in 1997. Mathis may have been designated the #1 but Emanuel outplayed him by a bit that year (65 catches, 991 yards, 9TDs). There were other Falcons seasons with 2 receivers catching a majority number of passes, but their touchdown production was so low I left them out. You could have also called Finn the #2 to Alge Crumpler in 2005, but I don’t count TEs in what should be a WR category and I also don’t count WR receiving stats on teams with running quarterbacks because those stats are too misleading.

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
2:55 pm

…Peerless Price, Falcon fans have been suspicious of so-called #2 WRs. Price was a heralded #2 out of Buffalo when we got him in 2003 to be our #1. Turns out he had #2 numbers his last year because they were triple teaming his all-pro teammate Eric Moulds and he had Drew Bledsoe to throw him the ball. The last time we had a true #2 (and we didn’t call it that back then) was in 1999 with Tim Dwight (32 catches, 669 yards, 7 TDs) working with #1 Terrance Mathis, and before that with #2 Mathis (62 catches, 802 yards, 6 TDs) working with #1 Bert

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
2:56 pm

…Peerless Price, Falcon fans have been suspicious of so-called #2 WRs. Price was a heralded #2 out of Buffalo when we got him in 2003 to be our #1. Turns out he had #2 numbers his last year because they were triple teaming his all-pro teammate Eric Moulds and he had Drew Bledsoe to throw him the ball. The last time we

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
2:56 pm

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
2:57 pm

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
2:58 pm

Falcon fans have been suspicious of so-called #2 WRs. Price was a heralded

John Waynesworld

August 12th, 2010
2:58 pm

FOCK IT. bye

Big Ray

August 12th, 2010
4:06 pm

Schillinger makes the squad.

JWW ,

Whassup? Trouble with the blog monster…

Coop

August 12th, 2010
4:09 pm

Wow JWW. Good points, but computer eatin’ you up brother.

BT

August 12th, 2010
6:12 pm

It`s hard to make an assessment without seeing any of the candidates play.
I suspect, Schillinger at least makes the PS and IMO, there is a good chance B. Williams backs up safety and corner, like Von Hutchins did.

Bangkapi Ajarn

August 12th, 2010
7:13 pm

JWW-
Wow, sounds like the blog monster is really chewing your shadow today, maybe D3 can tame it for you, always look forward to your insights.

Regards the questions de jour-

-Who takes the backup safety duty?
I am guessing Schillinger, as this is a developmental position this deep in the rotation. Bush and Schillinger are both unknowns, so this could truly be an open, may the best man win sort of thing, with special teams being the way to get onto the field. Giordano was signed before the draft (Schillinger) and UFA-gency opened up other possibilities (Bush). Giordano is a fallback option IF Schillinger and Bush can’t cut it in the heat of battle.

-Giordano for depth or Schillinger or Bush for youth?
Youth IF they step up and prove they can cut it with the big boys, purely for development and special teams. Don’t forget that Williams (if he heals enough to justify a roster spot) can also be a backup safety.
It looks grim for fragile Giordano to make the team as the depth chart currently sits, Schillinger and/or Bush may well be better developmental players that can contribute on special teams,and Williams can handle backup duties if his health holds up (and at that, he is no worse a health risk than Giordano)

-Is it a bigger battle than expected with William Moore’s health issues?
I doubt it, since William Moore grabs a precious roster spot as long as he is mobile on Turk-o-ween.

-Will the Falcons finally make this position more than special teams
Yes, it will be a developmental position, training talent to step into larger roles in the future (the process, as SW would sagely point out).

Bangkapi Ajarn

August 12th, 2010
7:19 pm

Feeling like a kid before Christmas waiting for the first game tomorrow,just to get a football fix! Is it just me??????????????

On a non-football note, got my license today, 2 hrs 45 minutes total. The tag, title, and placard were less than an hour total, so that part was Ok. Getting settled in, finally!!

BT

August 12th, 2010
7:37 pm

Great, BA
BTW, there is football tonite..
Panthers at Ravens @ 8 on the network with 4 letters.

joe

August 12th, 2010
7:55 pm

Are we ready for some falcons football, Give me a hell yea!!!!!!!!! I am ready to roll this year and the falcons are two. D3 thanks for the update, and william moore will not make the cut if he does not play by next week, i like matt and shawn as backups and special teams

joe

August 12th, 2010
7:56 pm

and kerry meier will earn alot of playing time, maybe can snaps away from finn and I love finn but meier is a little faster

BT

August 12th, 2010
7:59 pm

I am ready for football.
Not ready to go all Will Overstreet on Moore, yet.

BT

August 12th, 2010
8:08 pm

It`s only a matter of time before Meier passes Finn on the depth chart (sooner rather than later) and with that established.
He will appear in Jenkins rear view mirror, pushing him to either get better or get out of the way.

Ken Strickland

August 12th, 2010
8:26 pm

I have a feeling we’ll carry only 4 safeties, our 2 starters and 2 draft picks. That means we’ll likely carry 6DB’s, with CB BWilliams filling in as the 5th safety.

LRD

August 12th, 2010
8:43 pm

Actually watching the kitty cats vs poe’s poem. Nothing too shocking on either side yet. Panthers running game still makes me cringe a bit… Didnt know Zorn went to Baltimore.. good for him.
Only first pre-season.. but make me want tomorrow to get here quicker.. man cannot wait to see the birds tomorrow

BT

August 12th, 2010
8:56 pm

Ratbirds seem like they have a bit more going for them than the Kittens.
I am actually looking forward to watching more than just the starters for the Falcons tomorrow night.
With all the battles for 2nd, and 3rd teams.
It should be interesting throughout.

Bangkapi Ajarn

August 12th, 2010
9:02 pm

Joe-
You got it—

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree with BT, too early to give up on Moore. Give him a chance.

CBrass

August 12th, 2010
9:23 pm

Unca’ Bob,

Your boy Eric Norwood still making plays!!!

Sarah B

August 12th, 2010
9:39 pm

I don’t think the Kittens will be a problem for us this year.

BA, JJ, CBrass – I had the job interview for a company today I reeeeeaallllly want. Kesslers Sports Apparel! Sales Assistant. They do everything from kids uniforms on up. And I feel really good about this one.

CBrass

August 12th, 2010
9:44 pm

Sarah B,

I hope everything works out for you!!! Will say a prayer for you tonight.